ror-wiki-discussion

[granite flax]

i mid-edit so i cant double check

[swift plinth]

If it's the same as it was in RoR2, DAMAGE means base damage and TOTAL means damage dealt by the attack

e.g. a mortar triggered by a 20 damage bullet would deal 34 damage (170% TOTAL damage)

[plush stone]

Ye

[granite flax]

(double checked, mace is 45s)

[swift plinth]

Also, I'm just now noticing crowbar's description states that it deals +50% damage to enemies above 80% health, not TOTAL damage.

I don't know if that's a description error or if crowbars are now cursed.

[past stratus]

I just found a weird pot that looked like an interactble, so I pressed the interact button and it summonsed 4-5 frenzied imp overloards on me. Do we know what this is?

The interacables page does not have this at all.

[old summit]

That’s a big imp shrine

[plush stone]

^

[granite flax]

drops 2 reds on completion!

[plush stone]

It spawns 2 red items once you kill all the overlords

[granite flax]

very awesome addition im a big fan

[old summit]

But will that include “bonus damage” 🙂

[past stratus]

Same :)

[plush stone]

Cost 50% of your HP to activate and only spawn after loop

[swift plinth]

No

Would be extremely surprised if it did

[old summit]

So then are we just calculating total damage when we test basic attacks?

[swift plinth]

Crowbars definitely should have TOTAL in their description, easy test with Steady Aim

[swift plinth]

In RoR2, that's what it meant yeah

It was the damage your attack did, as calculated from the % damage and base damage

At one point I think crits and crowbars were considered part of TOTAL damage, but that lead to silly damage in proc chains, think 2x2x2x damage off 3 procs, all of which crit

Even funnier with crowbars

[granite flax]

oh thats so weird! the guaranteed golden chest shows up in the map viewer, but no other guaranteed interactables do...

not even the large chest in TOTE variant 1

[old summit]

I don’t think either of the gold chests off of the final map show up either right?

[past stratus]

I can rest in peace now and do nothing but test interactions and stuff.

[granite flax]

they do!

[old summit]

Wild

[granite flax]

only 2 left...

need to give my hand a break though

[old summit]

So close

[bitter finch]

The judgement trial has 12 different sets of items

available in the shops

[old summit]

I’ve heard there’s some variance in the sets

[bitter finch]

i just looked into the main.trials file. i havent unlocked the trial yet

[old summit]

Eg the yellow item can have wisp/ifrit/mortar and another I can’t remember at the moment

Ah

[bitter finch]

you mind if i just dump the relevant code in here?

[old summit]

I don’t mind

[bitter finch]

"trigger_SpawnShops0" : [
["spawn_shop", 1575, 1600, ["Hitlist", "Heart", "Scepter", "Ukulele", "Amethyst"]],
["trigger", "MakeShopsFree"]
],

[
["spawn_shop", 1890, 1972, ["Heart", "Teddy", "Feather"]],
["spawn_shop", 2178, 1972, ["Shackle", "Cell", "Boxing"]],
["spawn_shop", 2178, 1748, ["Hoof", "Thorns", "Gasoline"]],
["spawn_shop", 1890, 1748, ["AlienHead", "Hardlight", "Scepter"]],

[old summit]

that’s the starter item pick on the first one

Ye so how it works is you pick four items (one from each shop) after each stage

[bitter finch]

there are different starting items for different survivors

like commando1 has no items but commando2 has ukulele and crowbar

who is commando 1 and 2?

are they skins?

or variance again?

[old summit]

You don’t get to pick anything other than the character (not even alt skills) so it might be a test char?

[bitter finch]

maybe its the stage based character

the only thing that stays persistent is your health, maybe items too

Should the details on the page state the sets or just that these are all the items that can spawn

[old summit]

Itd probably require some testing

I’d say sets but no clue

[granite flax]

oh ive never noticed any variance, always playing the same character fwiw

[bitter finch]

what is umbra?

[granite flax]

depends on the context

[bitter finch]

like the umbral version of the survivor?

[granite flax]

if i had to guess, in the context of judgement, the umbras would be ||the shadow clones of the survivors you fight in the final stage||

[bitter finch]

there is four sets of 8 things each

[granite flax]

yup, that sounds right to me

[bitter finch]

in the bosses section, some are obvious but there is also Worm and a WurmHead, a ShamG and a Mac

[old summit]

Probably magma worm and macrobe predator for the first and last

[bitter finch]

Could the Wurm be providence's personal worms?

[old summit]

When does it show up?

[granite flax]

WurmHead is providence's

wurm = gilded wurm

ShamG is the lynx totem

what letter comes after Mac?

if its MacG thats a macrobic predator

[old summit]

Have they been hiding a Fourth macrobe?!?

[bitter finch]

Its just Mac

[granite flax]

just Mac is the normal Macrobes

[bitter finch]

it does share the same attributes as the imp

[granite flax]

(in the files, at least)

i really need more context for what youre talking about

[bitter finch]

idk whether by imp it means the regular imps or overlord

[granite flax]

where are you getting all this

[old summit]

This one

[bitter finch]

with respect to code, the mac and imp attributes are identical

[bitter finch]

while gameplay, do you encounter imps

[old summit]

I know there’s a big imp but I can’t remember more than that

[granite flax]

a blazing imp overlord spawns on the TOTE level of judgement

and a few normal imps spawn during the damp caverns one

[bitter finch]

you can kinda cheat by changing the values in the main.trials file. For testing purposes.

[granite flax]

very interesting

had no idea it was all stored plain like this

[bitter finch]

you can break the ui doing it

but just deleting the file and validating the files through steam will fix it

[granite flax]

wow its pretty open here

[old summit]

Also doesn’t it show that 5 item shops are possible

I wonder how big you can go

[bitter finch]

you can change what rarity if item drops if you open chests

[granite flax]

i am seeing that there is absolutely 0 variance in item shops, btw

[bitter finch]

you can give yourself more starting items, more health

[old summit]

People be lying then 🙂

[granite flax]

but i dont know if anythign would stop you from adding more shops

just give it coords that dont overlap

[bitter finch]

steam just allows the achievements through

[granite flax]

looking at the file myself, this is not related to judgement

[bitter finch]

i got it while searching for final

[granite flax]

those are going into other trials, its the details for "A Colossal Feat" and "Brave Heart, Steady Hand"

[bitter finch]

searching for judgement gave no hits

[granite flax]

its not called judgement in there

man this stuff is all really laid out

you could make a pretty rudimentary hacked-together custom trial with some elbow grease

maybe

and if not an entirely custom one, you could for sure make a pretty variant derivative

[old summit]

Would it be maps that are the hardest part to change?

[bitter finch]

Ordinary runs? Yeah

[old summit]

For making trials I mean

[granite flax]

oh 100%

you cant make custom ones yet

so youd be reusing

[bitter finch]

the maps are defined in the .rorlvl files

[granite flax]

(or using one of the unused ones i suppose)

[bitter finch]

i cant open them in notepad++, so they may be hex format

[granite flax]

yup yup

[granite flax]

all maps DONE!!!

just need to add their logs in and then ill put them all into the wiki

[swift plinth]

Just for future reference, here's some proof that damage is halved with each pierce. Perfect reload damage doesn't have random spread, and this shot was taken with glass enabled. Damage through each target is
900, 450, 225, 113, 57, 29, 15, 8, 4, 2
Which clearly shows it's halved (and then rounded up) with each pierce.

[granite flax]

now THIS is great stuff

[swift plinth]

Wouldn't be needed if I could decompile

[granite flax]

i kind of love that we cant decompile

i genuinely love the searching and reverse-engineering of it

[swift plinth]

After reading that merc's primary supposedly can hit "up to" 3 creatures, I'm not looking forward to figuring out how melee damage pierces, if at all

[granite flax]

LOL

i think most "explosion" type things dont have decay, but obviously this needs verifying

[swift plinth]

I believe that's the case; Nanobomb doesn't seem to have anything of the sort, Commando's shotgun does seem to have decay (it is a bunch of bullets after all), Bandit's Smokebomb may not have decay, but can deal low damage to enemies that are further away...

[granite flax]

things like smokebomb sometimes have damage falloff, which is an entirely separate issue

[old summit]

The numbers!

[smoky juniper]

do we have a damage statistics page

[granite flax]

the numbers!

[smoky juniper]

or how formulas work in general

this would be beautiful for it

[old summit]

That’s the current brain hurt

[granite flax]

not yet because we're still figuring it out

[swift plinth]

I only ever noticed it doing 140% and 25%, but I didn't test it more than a few times

[granite flax]

might be a sweetspot thing, then

[smoky juniper]

what’s the point of damage falloff on an ability that has such a small aoe and one you don’t even use for damage

[swift plinth]

Artificer's ice wall has a cooldown of 15 seconds and deals 75% damage in a small AoE (description says it deals 100%)

[granite flax]

so cool...

[smoky juniper]

OH NO EVEN THE DESCRIPTIONS ARE WRONG

[swift plinth]

Unless icewall also has a tiny sweet spot, who knows

[granite flax]

frequently! :)

[smoky juniper]

im not smart enough for damage calcs anyway i just like seeing the finished product

so i shouldn’t be complaining, i have my own things to do

[swift plinth]

It doesn't seem complicated, just Total Damage = (class base Damage) x (listed damage in %)

For piercing, halve the damage for each enemy pierced

(bullet piercing, that is)

Then you have artificer's chakrams

[smoky juniper]

i think we mentioned commando shotgun before when we were doing the scepter variants

it says “piercing” which probably means it deals 100% of its damage to all enemies hit

[swift plinth]

They deal 45 damage on the way out, and on the way back. Piercing, no falloff.
While at the apex they also inflict the burn status to one enemy, done five times. Each burn deals 10% base damage 6 times, and they can all stack.

[swift plinth]

From testing, it looks like it pierces in the same way as Steady Aim and Clusterfire

With the 1/2 damage penalty on each pierce

[smoky juniper]

non scepter right?

[swift plinth]

non scepter

[smoky juniper]

i could test with scepter today

[bitter finch]

the trials are wonderful place to test as you can have the survivor start with certain items, making it a controlled experiment

[swift plinth]

I'll test it in a second. If there's on thing Judgement is good for, it's testing Scepter

Wait

I forgot you can't use the shotgun there

Nevermind

[bitter finch]

you can enable it, right?

[swift plinth]

Definitely possible, they're just defined using json files, right?

[smoky juniper]

trials sometimes have modified stats which may not always be accurate

[swift plinth]

Though tbh I'm gonna head to bed in a few minutes, too tired for that right now

[smoky juniper]

and prov trials don’t let you use alt abilities

[old summit]

And do we have boss health bars in judgement?

[smoky juniper]

nope

[bitter finch]

but they're all well defined

[swift plinth]

Several prov trials exist solely to test alt abilities

Surely it's modifiable

[swift plinth]

This is an issue, but golden gun or similar can alleviate it

[smoky juniper]

maybe. i forgot half of them by now because some of them are so gimmicky

[bitter finch]

is there a way to import saves from other players?

[smoky juniper]

should be the same as ror1?

[old summit]

Isn’t golden gun a multiplier based on money as bonus damage?

[bitter finch]

ror1 had a init file. I couldnt find the same for rorr

[smoky juniper]

yeah i was about to say

it may not be the same file type

[bitter finch]

hex maybe?

[smoky juniper]

but method should be the same

i’ll look for it once i get on pc

[swift plinth]

I suspect the cap of 40% damage is based on your attack's total damage, not your base damage

At the very least, crowbars are worded similarly.

The item descriptions are ambiguous between "% damage done" and "% base damage"

[old summit]

I know golden gun gives 0 damage number pop ups if you are poor

[swift plinth]

They never specify, unless it's TOTAL damage

[swift plinth]

yes

[bitter finch]

is there anything that needs to be tested today? I could give it a go

[swift plinth]

For golden gun you'd need to give yourself $$$

[old summit]

Actually, we should set up a google doc for this

[swift plinth]

Yeaaah, I need to move to a google sheet, I'm using excel right now

[old summit]

If you send me the file when I’m on I’ll make one

[swift plinth]

But a doc with links to tools, like a preset "here's a modified trial for weapon testing" would be helpful

[swift plinth]

You sure? It's a little formula heavy.

Or do you mean a doc?

[old summit]

Ye I like formulas

[granite flax]

this is super duper possible.. not a bad idea at all

[swift plinth]

Note, I first made this to compare DPS.
The entries it has aren't necessarily optimal for any other given purpose.

For example: Pilot's landmines have damage listed assuming 7 explosions, which was the highest I saw them trigger.

So they were treated the same as any other multi-hit ability

[old summit]

It’ll be about an hour till I properly get to look through so no rush

[swift plinth]

The damage for different crowd sizes is also calculated differently for different abilities

Based on if they use the bullet piercing logic or not

¯_(ツ)_/¯

In a google sheet I'd probably include columns indicated which one to use so the formulas would remain consistent

Anyway, night y'all

[granite flax]

night!

[bitter finch]

how about a local copy seperate from steam to test and not mess up steam achievements and things?

[granite flax]

thatd be on the user not the maker, right?

[smoky juniper]

do we have the wurms' individual names?

could have sworn we did

[granite flax]

theyve always just been gilded wurms afaik

[smoky juniper]

darn

guess it's just red worm and black worm for now

[granite flax]

ball wurm and beam wurm

finally i can restore all my UI and background files

[smoky juniper]

you can play the game now!

[bitter finch]

they dropped a monster log called ornate wurms back in ror1 . They will unlock magma worm's log if you didnt have it.

[old summit]

Divide all monsters into wether they are beams or balls

[granite flax]

this is clearly the smartest categorization method

lemurian (ball) (normal lem, teeth are like balls) vs lemurian (beam) (elder lemurian, breath is a beam)

[bitter finch]

what about imps?

[old summit]

Large imps are definitely beam

Medium imps tho

Small imps would be ball

[vivid laurel]

im just now noticing i dont think the characters' in-game sprites are anywhere on their pages

were we waiting until we had animated ones?

[smoky juniper]

waiting?

we can just grab the sprites

see pins

[vivid laurel]

ohh i see

[old summit]

should i put the damage file as anyone access or restrict it?

[old summit]

ok our idea of making trials absolutly works

i swapped the heart for a shell piece

[old summit]

and adding more things just pushes the shop along

i tested toxin and its a separate damage number as well

which isnt effected by the variance so its just "bonus" damage

[smoky juniper]

holy hell

[stuck saffron]

Wait that's rly cool lol

[old summit]

benefits of having access to the code ahaha

[stuck saffron]

How do you do it?

[stuck saffron]

Wisps are both balls (their shape) and beams (their attack)

How do you solve this conundrum

Also "teeth are like balls"?

[old summit]

theres a file called main.trials in the files that has every trial basically in plain text

[stuck saffron]

Aaah alright

Is the survivor loadout defined anywhere

[old summit]

yup

[stuck saffron]

Omg controlled environment for testing

[old summit]

wait let me cook

[stuck saffron]

[old summit]

boss health bar, no enemies, modified starting item

[stuck saffron]

Incredible

[old summit]

we have a testing room

[vivid laurel]

went ahead and uploaded Huntress' providence trial videos and added them to the pages (for the ones that exist anyway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPaFY0kjyjg

[stuck saffron]

Nice, thanks a lot

Which ones are we missing?

I'm guessing the rope one

Lol the Providence Trials page is scuffed on mobile because of the huge picture

Or maybe because I turned it into an imagemap

[vivid laurel]

yeah the rope one is empty at the moment

[past stratus]

You have missed the part where we realised that Bandit's primary is like 85% damage instead of the 150% on the tooltip. It's genuinely insane how bad and/or straight misleading Hoopoo descriptions are.

[smoky juniper]

it’s what they do best

their music is electric, after all

[stuck saffron]

Really need to finish that skills template thing to put corrective notes under EVERY skill lol

@past stratus if you have design ideas lmk

[old summit]

ill toss the link to the sheet for testing

[past stratus]

Oh yeah, reminds me: I always wanted to rename the "correction" template to "Editor's note", which I think makes a lot more sense and easier to apply this in almost every situation.

[stuck saffron]

Can the link be pinned here?

[old summit]

ive got it public edit currently and with how specific the numbers are its dangerous

[stuck saffron]

Ah gotcha

[past stratus]

I'm trusted, apparently 🥺

[stuck saffron]

We don't have a "correction" template though

[past stratus]

Not yet

Also, I said template because LoL Wiki literally makes template out of anything, even when they really should not.

[old summit]

i dmed you the link

[past stratus]

Also yes! I can start working on drafts.

[stuck saffron]

Thanks!

[grave rose]

trials status: I'll add engineer and sniper + add descriptions for the top 2 rows later today, but for everything else if it doesn't exist now it most likely won't in the near future (or will have no description)

[stuck saffron]

I'll whip up basic pages for the ones we're still missing this evening then

[stuck saffron]

Thanks a lot for making all of these

[granite flax]

LETS GOOO!!! so glad this worked

omg test item my beloved

[old summit]

i have messed witth the test arena even more

[stuck saffron]

Can you also add regular enemies so we can test level scaling

[smoky juniper]

oh my god we can figure out misc enemy stats with this

if it does work

[stuck saffron]

Or maybe we can just kill the boss lol

[granite flax]

the boss will have xp rewards but you can probably spawn normal enemies by modifying the other misc. spawns that the timer causes, i think

[old summit]

so far ive disabled all mobs (except a random parent and the baby boars that the beast spawns)

"difficulty_scaling_enabled" : false,

"enemies_drop_xp" : false,

[stuck saffron]

Oh it's great that we have these options!

[granite flax]

oh hell yeaaaahhhhh

[old summit]

i dmed you the google sheet

[old summit]

did you want the sheet as well?

[smoky juniper]

I don't know how to use it

[stuck saffron]

Just look at the pretty numbers

[smoky juniper]

youre right

give me the sheet

[old summit]

sent

[smoky juniper]

magnificent

[old summit]

the second page is there so we know exactly what items are "bonus" damage vs base damage increases etc

[smoky juniper]

makes sense

[old summit]

if you give yourself an incorrect item name it gives the test eggplant

[smoky juniper]

i like how an item not meant to exist has a full sprite done for it

[old summit]

and name + description when you hover over it

[granite flax]

better that than a crash! and better this than nothing, because if its nothing, you dont know what part of the process went wrong

[smoky juniper]

yeah I meant more so they could've just made it a white square or something

something that would take no effort

[old summit]

this trial looks correct right?

[smoky juniper]

explode

[ashen shard]

Loader gaming

[old summit]

so we have access to any character/Item/skills we want

even the cursed child

wait no

he breaks it!

[smoky juniper]

o . o

you can spawn any enemy right

or is it just the toxic beast

[old summit]

atm just the beast

[smoky juniper]

shucks

[old summit]

theres a trial that spawns a colossus that i can probably mess with to set this up as well

[bitter finch]

afaik there were no trials with starting equipment, were there?

[bitter finch]

robomando?

[old summit]

we dare not speak his name

[old summit]

good point lemme test something

[old summit]

random parent removed

[bitter finch]

did anybody find out the name of the boar in the lemurian cavalry?

[granite flax]

enforcer shadow one starts u with a bouncing brain

[old summit]

danke

[granite flax]

its just "lemurian cavalry", too

[bitter finch]

can't we just give it a name ourselves ?

similar to petrichor V

[old summit]

this gets us any equipment testing

it has been found

[granite flax]

"a toxic path" (foreign fruit) works too, but its a timer one so like. not as useful LOL

i feel like inner demons is a great testing ground because of the lack of natural spawns, and starting items + starting equipment

[old summit]

ye i just needed the code for "starting equipment"

[old summit]

was inner demons the merc one against another merc?

[bitter finch]

nah the enforcer versus shadows/umbras

[granite flax]

^

[old summit]

aight lemme poke around

[bitter finch]

Is it possible to add a text/change the "defeat the wild boar boss" to some attribute of the survivor like speed/damage etc?

[old summit]

what do you mean by that?

[stuck saffron]

Billy the Boar

[bitter finch]

like a visual aid to how items affect numbers

[stuck saffron]

You mean display a variable?

[granite flax]

maybe possible, but unlikely

normally variables like that have to be specifically passed for something which is parsing plaintext

[old summit]

ok so it seems like as part of the .rorlvl it spawns the starter mobs but anything after that we can mess with

so ive got the inner demons spawning one enforcer and then stopping

[raw siren]

idk who wrote that but its genius

[old summit]

theres alot of arguments its calling for that im guessing are in the .rorlvl

i need a trial that has natural spawns

more testing

[granite flax]

might be able to use uhhhhh

equivalent exchange might be good

no timer, has spawns

[old summit]

we have timer control

[granite flax]

oh word. nevermind then

get off my lawn would be a nice testing environment

[grave rose]

get off my lawn isn't natural spawns, they're scripted one after another

[stuck saffron]

Is there any trial with natural spawns even

Go on without me?

[granite flax]

natural, not sure, but there are some with randomized spawns at the very least

ruins of the future has some randomness, but i think its timed spawns which pull from a pool

A Fresh Harvest could work?

[old summit]

e exchange has opened a big thing

[granite flax]

:0

[granite flax]

[old summit]

we have access to natural spawns

[stuck saffron]

That's not even the right map lol

Incredible

[old summit]

which in treory lets us spawn any mob (maybe bosses)

[old summit]

get off my lawn has a Massive stack of tubers that are part of the starting group

and i cant get the bosses to want to spawn yet

[smoky juniper]

can you apply elite prefixes to enemies

since it's "natural spawns"

[old summit]

ye

[smoky juniper]

gasp

so if you can get to spawn a boss

[old summit]

well kinda

[grave rose]

trials can limit what elites can spawn, at least. can probably set certain enemies to only be elites too

[old summit]

the boar from earlier had elite spawns and ive seen elite spawn benifits for the director as well

it looks like we will be able to control the director to some lvl

[past stratus]

Maybe the miner one?

[old summit]

we have spawned a blighted boar

[stuck saffron]

[granite flax]

YES...

[past stratus]

They are scary,

We also spawned a cognate boar. The game does not like this.

If it dies because of its elite prefix, the game just soft locks.

Our assumption is that it's because you don't get kill credit when cognates die from the bleed out.

At least, I have read that they bleed out, but when I force to spawn them, they just kinda don't lose health?

They just instantly die after few seconds, regardless of their health.

[stuck saffron]

They just die after a set time I believe?

[past stratus]

The wiki says fade, which is more ambigious, but my first assumption would be slowly losing health.

But I guess I just got bamboozled.

[old summit]

also blighted bosses have 700% health

[stuck saffron]

That's a lot

[distant hazel]

They don’t lose health or anything they just sorta disappear

[old summit]

im out for the night now

[past stratus]

We found out that Artificer's primary and special both scales with attack speed. I already kinda noticed that as if it's "maybe does," but now it's 100%.

Now I have to find out if these update dynamically during the cast, or only at the start of cast.

[orchid sundial]

artificer primary is super weird with rapid fire

its like chef's slice you can still spam to make it go faster

[swift plinth]

Heads up I'm moving that spreadsheet over to google sheets, and separating out particle and move info (for the sake of moves with multiple damage sources of different types)

[old summit]

I dmed you a link to it already!

[swift plinth]

Just saw, will send you the changes I'm making where I've finalized the format

[grave rose]

all the providence trial pages are done

I marked the 6 that are missing descriptions as stubs but the other 42 are complete

[orchid sundial]

quick screenshot no idea if you still need this lol

bottom right

or just right

who care

NEW DISCOVERY IF YOU INTERACT AFTER GETTING THE DEAD MANS FOOT YOU GET ATTACKED BY 2 ARCHER BUGS!!!

[smoky juniper]

i always wondered why it’s called the bloated survivor if it clearly isn’t surviving anymore

[distant hazel]

I still had bottom right but a different stage variant apparently https://vxtwitter.com/shredclaw/status/1726649467246653624

[orchid sundial]

hm

[stuck saffron]

alright I need to try this custom trial stuff

[pastel carbon]

hmm should we add the secret char to the wiki soon

it's been nearly 2 weeks

and we'll obviously have spoiler tags and stuff on pages with him

[pastel carbon]

always been like that

[red mortar]

it seems like the heaven cracker page doesn't have an image-- it lists Heaven_Cracker.png but either the file doesn't exist or isn't rendering or something

[orchid sundial]

just never tried it in the original lol

[stuck saffron]

thx, will fix!

[distant hazel]

(should have been there already)

[distant hazel]

we have a spoiler warning now, and it just occurred to me we can also collapse a whole page

[stuck saffron]

I tried making one before but I think I was using the wrong class for some reason lol

[distant hazel]

hold on why doesn't this work when I add </p>

nvm it does

[stuck saffron]

hey @potent rock I see you're online, any chance you can help with this if you have time? thanks! #ror-wiki-discussion message

[potent rock]

all set

[stuck saffron]

oh wow great thanks a lot

[distant hazel]

I wonder

it does hide the infobox

[stuck saffron]

thoughts? this seems... obtrusive for a tooltip lol

[distant hazel]

that seems excessive for a hover tooltip

[stuck saffron]

yeah

think I'll go with the original plan

[past stratus]

Yeah, I would just keep it simple for these.

[stuck saffron]

time to not destroy the site's CSS 🤞

[past stratus]

I do suggest trying to keep some consistency between others tho.

Color and the pixelated text, for example.

[stuck saffron]

will do my best, all feedback is welcome

[past stratus]

I'm still figuring out the skills.

[stuck saffron]

right, still need to figure out how to upload a font on the wiki

[past stratus]

You are probably going to need Gummy's help.

[stuck saffron]

done, you might need to clear your browser's cache to see the changes correctly

[smoky juniper]

god this is so cool

[stuck saffron]

this is mainly why I made the Items/Data page lol

and to make sure the data in the tooltips is the same as on the item's page

[smoky juniper]

really good work elbry

[stuck saffron]

ty 🙂

[granite flax]

WOOO ELBRY!!! that rules so hard!!

[civic heart]

How would we go about adding cooldown for equipment?

[stuck saffron]

huh true I forgor 💀

the data is there I just need to put it in

[civic heart]

  local rarity = frame.args[1]
  local wikitable = table_head_item
  for i, item in ipairs(Sort(items)) do
    if item.Rarity == rarity then
      wikitable = wikitable .. table_row_item:format(
        item.Name, item.Icon, item.Name, item.Pickup, item.Desc, item.Unlock or "Unlocked by default.")
    end
  end
  return frame:preprocess(wikitable .. "|}")
end``` I don't know a lot about scripting but would we be able to add it into this list or would that break if there's no value

[stuck saffron]

I'm not sure I'll be using this tbh, it would break the item order

[civic heart]

Oh I see the boss and special item examples, I guess we'd make one for equipment

[stuck saffron]

and I've learned keeping the log order is important 😄

[stuck saffron]

glad you like it! also it seems I'm an admin on the wiki now? (I promise I won't abuse it I just wanted CSS lol)

[granite flax]

what da hell... promotion...

[stuck saffron]

yeah it came with the css privileges

maybe a mistake? not sure

[granite flax]

well u seem trustworthy so im not expecting it to be an issue :)

[stuck saffron]

ty 🙂

[past stratus]

Top right

[stuck saffron]

okay chief

[past stratus]

You could go many ways, such as:

• Cooldown: xs
• xs CD
  etc.

What if...

Do we need the pick up text?

It looks irrelevant and could be used for the cooldown instead.

Or removed it still and put the CD to the right.

I just feel like the pick up text is really not needed for the hovers, since you just want a quick reminder of what it does.

[granite flax]

i dont think it detracts from the tooltip

also looking at it now, we should specify thw slow amount

oh nvm we have no way of getting that LOL

[past stratus]

:)

[granite flax]

how should i show the command ropes on HC?

[stuck saffron]

top right works nicely

[stuck saffron]

maybe semi-transparent ropes?

[granite flax]

hm, not a bad idea! ill try that

going to upload the featureless maps now but ill keep gettings pictures of all the logs so we can have full versions eventually :)

[stuck saffron]

damn they're huge

[granite flax]

full size babeyyyy

ancient valley is the tallest map, though

the others are nowhere near this big

ohh thats what a gallery is

[orchid sundial]

what is this

[orchid sundial]

OH

awesome

[orchid sundial]

scale down the bits on the side and this looks really nice

i think this could work

[granite flax]

i def think the simple one was the way to go haha

function over form, always!

[orchid sundial]

at least replace the transparent background with the metalish effect that one had

it would fit with the games ui a lot more and look pretty

[stuck saffron]

yeah me too but just in case I showed it here

[stuck saffron]

couldn't get it to scale it down properly :/

[orchid sundial]

where can i see this on the site

[stuck saffron]

any trial page should have item links

also if you see an item linked somewhere without a tooltip, it's not using the {{ItemLink}} template and you should replace it

unless it was intended I guess

[stuck saffron]

yeah ofc it can still be tweaked

[orchid sundial]

these look really nice though

good job elbry

[stuck saffron]

ty, but to be honest a lot of this originates from the RoR2 wiki, I didn't know lua (the programming language for the modules) at all when I started this

[past stratus]

Lua is awesome!

[stuck saffron]

it has some... interesting quirks

[past stratus]

The icon aligns to center.

[stuck saffron]

never seen 'and' / 'or' used like this lol

[granite flax]

i love lua :)

[distant hazel]

I think the icon looks fine

[granite flax]

ditto!

[stuck saffron]

where should it go if not here though

[past stratus]

I just mentioned it. I expected it to be always top left.

[stuck saffron]

aah gotcha

I'm still looking into how to get a font on the wiki but it seems like we'd have to modify an actual file on the server to allow font uploads

[past stratus]

Where did you make the first template?

It had the font already.

[stuck saffron]

the pictures I showed were from a local test file

to get the html/css right

aaah no you mean the infoboxes?

true they do have a different font

lemme check

[past stratus]

Those are not applied to the wiki yet tho.

Unless... I need to empty cache.

[stuck saffron]

nvm they don't

[past stratus]

Nvm

[granite flax]

ok it aint pretty but ancient valley has initial pictures up :)

[stuck saffron]

nice!

[granite flax]

feel free to nuke it im an info and function gal i dont know how to make things look good

[stuck saffron]

we'd probably benefit from this extension that lets you open a picture in full screen without going to the actual file page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultimediaViewer

[stuck saffron]

sure lol, first thing I'm noticing is that the gallery arrows are barely noticeable on the dark background

luckily I now have CSS powers

[past stratus]

That would be, in-fact, very nice. Especially when the galleries for the sprites will be up.

[stuck saffron]

yup, I think we need to ask our wiki.gg friend for stuff like this though

also the font upload thing

[granite flax]

its weird that wiki admins cant do this

[stuck saffron]

well we have to interact with server files directly for this

and I don't know if we have access to that

[granite flax]

ahhh, right

[past stratus]

I want to make the galleries for the sprites formatted like how I did this elsewhere:

[stuck saffron]

oh yeah that'd be nice

[past stratus]

It's pretty easy to set it up too.

[granite flax]

that should be super easy yeah

[granite flax]

going to properly catalog all the enemy spawns, too, since im seeing a lot of gaps

[orchid sundial]

@stuck saffron can we have something like this for survivors

so it shows their base health, damage armor and ability icons

sorry for the random reply celestine i cba to scroll up to when elbry sent them lol

[granite flax]

hm i dunno how useful it would be for survivors?

like, when are we linking to a survivor where knowing their base stats could come in handy

[orchid sundial]

i think it would just be nice for consistency sake

being able to have a quick look at survivor abilities would also be nice for people who havent played them

[granite flax]

if someone has not played a survivor theyre not going to recognize their skill icons

skill hover tooltips would be very handy, though

[orchid sundial]

im gonna be that guy

ror2 wiki has it

and i think it looks pretty damn nice

[granite flax]

"Class: Ranged" what on earth is up with the ror2 wiki man 😭

[orchid sundial]

i know its so delusional

but thats not the point it just looks pretty neato c:

[granite flax]

it looks nice but im sure we could have something more useful in a survivor tooltip is all i mean

dunno what though

[orchid sundial]

yeye

scaling info is a given

[granite flax]

Class: Ball/Beam

[orchid sundial]

its all in the balls

[distant hazel]

Hovering over skills seems useful for providence trials pages

[stuck saffron]

not sure that's useful though

oh nvm didn't read everything

[stuck saffron]

I can do that too yeah!

[granite flax]

elbry carrying the wiki

[old summit]

So much pretty added!

[swift plinth]

@old summit Here's the updated ability data/damage sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFWFzXVg1r8GCDjY-jt8yeLIRTebco9CcYMUAV5SuJM/edit?usp=sharing
Permissions should be view-only for now. Could be moved, or I can make a public version.
Biggest problem for completing it is lack of frame data.

Now in the correct channel

[old summit]

Ye toss it into the main link, I’ll be at my computer in a couple hours

[spring storm]

wtf, why is robomando tied for highest damage

do we have any units for speed that we can measure even

oh yeah we got enemys speed

[old summit]

Probably because his multipliers on his skills are kinda low

[spring storm]

still think its funny, also the wiki does not mention that drizzle increases hp by a flat 50

[stuck saffron]

best change

I didn't even think to do it myself lol

[distant hazel]

Welcome to Rick of Rain Returns

[granite flax]

LOL it had been bugging me so bad but i just kept forgetting

[grizzled pasture]

So is anyone working on Judgement?

[stuck saffron]

Started documenting the skills here for eventual tooltips, but I need to sleep, cya https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Module:Skills/Data

[stuck saffron]

no clue sorry

[grizzled pasture]

In any case can someone add images to the drone page?

[stuck saffron]

lmao I keep forgetting I'm sorry

[granite flax]

i can do some skill data in a bit when i get home!

uh, unless youre mid-edit i guess 0_0;

@stuck saffron ^-^

[stuck saffron]

Nah it's 2am here I'm going to sleep

You can edit without worry

[granite flax]

yippee!!!

gnight

[vivid laurel]

hmmm today i will upload the enforcer providence trials

also when i inevitably get to Han-D

hopefully my run of Main Systems Offline isn't too wack for the wiki, haha

i got a score of like 33k which is MILES above the gold score, but the run shows off every single part of the level.

[granite flax]

damn, nice!

main systems offline is fun

[old summit]

I’ll make some cleaner test environments when I get home later

I’ve got an idea for a second trial but I’d have to check it out

[vivid laurel]

alrighty the enforcer videos are up and on the respective pages

[green sequoia]

its definitely the most unique

I'm currently working on judgement
but unfortunately I am bad at the game and struggle to get far enough to get later item choices
though maybe I could do a cheeky senor secret character run to get the stuff really easily

[old summit]

Here’s a screenshot of all the item choices

[green sequoia]

oh
thanks

[green sequoia]

*except the last one :p

Anyways I have to sleep so I'm going to leave it at where it is now and pick it back up later

[old summit]

Ah

[old summit]

Glasses, toxin, heart. Hyper threader, wicked ring, ceremonial dagger. Top row

Timekeepers, hoof, scythe. Hermit scarf, taser, topaz brooch

[distant hazel]

are these always the same

[old summit]

Ye

Should be

Now I’m paranoid about it again

I’ll check later

Also I tried forcing the pilot skin we know about but that doesn’t exist in game. Skin 4 in game is correct and then skin 5 is his prov skin. So it was probably left over

[granite flax]

pretty sure the shops are always the same, theres nothin in the trials file which would dictate otherwise

[old summit]

Danke danke

[smoky juniper]

does anyone know what sunken tombs variant the Acrid cage appears on? i don’t have access to my pc right now

[smoky juniper]

also i need more details on NPC acrid behavior because i literally don’t know what it does aside from melee and spit attacks

i always kill it too fast x3

[stuck saffron]

Check the sunken tomb page, the map variants should be there

[smoky juniper]

also elbry, can you pin the enemy stat module page

i keep losing it every time and it’s hard to find

[stuck saffron]

Don't have any rights here :/

[smoky juniper]

oh. jus repost it then and i’ll ask gummy to do so later

[stuck saffron]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Module:Enemies/Data

[smoky juniper]

thank

[old summit]

Even gummy has to ask for things to be pinned aha

[smoky juniper]

on second thought i’ll just save it in a notepad

[old summit]

wiki has Glaze/Marinate and Oil Jar/Marinate

if someone has oil jar unlocked could they test the name of the boosted one

[granite flax]

can do!

it is also marinate

awesome

that makes marinate and marinate the only 2 skills to share a name

put that in the trivia

[old summit]

have transfered all of this into the main doc now

Marinateception

[civic heart]

Hey @stuck saffron how would we go about linking the items page to the item data module? For other items it looks like you added an {{ItemPage}} tag though I doubt that would work unless the page is titled same as the item

[stuck saffron]

that's how I do it yeah, but every item page should have the item's name

so it'll work every time

[civic heart]

By items page I meant the list

Not item's page

[stuck saffron]

ah yeah I see

well at first I wanted to do the whole table with the data but that won't keep the items in the order they appear in the in-game log

so I either add a sortOrder parameter to the list, or I'll just query the data for every line of the table

[civic heart]

Why wouldn't querying work

Just replace everything in category with {{text in far left column's data for category}}

Or something like that

[stuck saffron]

yeah I'll probably end up with smth like this

[stuck saffron]

oh wait we have stat scaling for survivors now?

ah no we always did nvm

me dumb

why would they lie about laser cyclone like that man

[old summit]

i know it scales with attackspeed so there could be something there

[grave rose]

anyone working on judgement rn? I can expand what it already has to include all items

actually, would a layout like this be better? (placeholder items obv)

[smoky juniper]

i approve

aren’t there differing item amounts though

the table would get wonky

i think there’s one stage where it only offers golden gun and capt brooch in the bottom left terminal

[grave rose]

there's always 3 items except for the first one which can be its own table

[smoky juniper]

ok mb

[stuck saffron]

I like it

[civic heart]

I have an idea but it might fit an independent site more than a wiki: Could we have a page that has the layouts of the command menus with the itemlink system Elbry made? That way players could get essentially a more detailed and hoverable command list at any time. Probably not something we should put too much effort into as it's not cataloging more information and not making it that much easier to access, but I think it would be cool

[hexed viper]

hoi it me
this seems good! feel free to put it in

i also have a list of the enemy spawns but i dont know how to list it since its very very long

[old summit]

i think ive found my most most disliked description

[stuck saffron]

maybe something to put on the command page yeah

not a priority but good idea

[stuck saffron]

oh?

[old summit]

damage by up to 2x500% enemy damage per second and slow for up to -150% movement speed over the course of 3 seconds

what even is enemy damage per second

and over 100% speed decrease

[stuck saffron]

what description is this?

[old summit]

thallium

[stuck saffron]

you're right this reads like nonsense

[hexed viper]

true thallium is fucked

[old summit]

every time i look at it it makes me upset

[smoky juniper]

i think it means it scales off the enemy’s damage stat

which is hella weird

so it’d deal more damage to things with high attack like bosses and whatnot

[old summit]

and why is it UP to 2x500%

[smoky juniper]

no idea

i think the 150%- movement speed is a multiplier rather than an additive speed modifier

[old summit]

[smoky juniper]

yeah exactly

it makes 0 sense even when i try to make sense out of it

[stuck saffron]

so it what, halves the speed of enemies?

[smoky juniper]

i think so?

that’s how it’d work logically

[stuck saffron]

I mean the maths with the numbers as given don't make sense but I think that's that they're trying to say

[old summit]

i know it stops the enemies so its probably droping them to 0 movespeed at 2/3 of the duration

[stuck saffron]

lmao maybe it really is just a flat -150% then

just to make sure

the enemy is really STOPPED

[smoky juniper]

why not just “apply an x slow intensifying over x time, snare after (x time)”

[civic heart]

Figured out how to make a table wide or tall, but not both (width:60em and height:60em work, but not both or size:60em). Also need a way to change the icon size while using the ItemLink function.

[smoky juniper]

beeg columns

[old summit]

skeeeeny

[stuck saffron]

I think a gallery might be better for this

[hexed viper]

maybe enemies with more than 150% movespeed wont be fully snared?

like maybe frenzied elites

[stuck saffron]

and yes I'll add an option for item size!

[hexed viper]

idk its an awful wording

[smoky juniper]

it really is

[stuck saffron]

ah wait can't make a gallery with {{ItemLinks}} probably

[civic heart]

Actually item size would force the table into the right size I think

Meaning I set them all to 300% or so and it looks decent

If anyone wants to see it: https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Command_Interface_Example

[smoky juniper]

oooo!!

so cool

[civic heart]

I don't even know if size will work given each image is a 24px version of the full image, so you might need to redo it in a way that querys the full size

[stuck saffron]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:ItemLink imgSize=number changes the icon to be 'number' px

as you can see in the example

[civic heart]

Give me a bit to fine tune the size

[stuck saffron]

haha sure

[smoky juniper]

big brain

[stuck saffron]

if you use this with item names displayed it looks really wonky but heh just don't do it

[civic heart]

huh

[stuck saffron]

huh

glowing displays fine here though

[civic heart]

fixed itself

no idea

[stuck saffron]

huh weird

[civic heart]

Can a few people go to https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Command_Interface_Example and tell me if it looks bad on their screen

[stuck saffron]

btw safeguard lantern doesn't have its cooldown listed

but it's my fault it was missing from the list when you added cooldowns

looks good to me, will probably look bad on mobile though

[civic heart]

Yeah I just tried it

[stuck saffron]

you can probably get away with like 64px instead of 100

[civic heart]

I tried that before but after seeing 100 for a bit 64 does look better again

Lantern CD added

[stuck saffron]

damn

[civic heart]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Command Equipment has been added to the Artifact of Command page

[stuck saffron]

btw tests like this should be done on your user page if possible

to avoid creating unused pages

[civic heart]

Got it, not used to media wiki or wiki editting in general

[stuck saffron]

yeah no worries

[civic heart]

Welp the menu's wrong because command doesn't quite follow logbook

I'm missing just enough things in my command menus that I don't know exactly where some things go

[old summit]

thats what ive got for white

[civic heart]

thanks

That helps

I think I got equipment, looks like Mace Replica was just moved to the end of the menu

[civic heart]

I haven't gotten my own screenshot of red yet but I know it's probably the most incomplete

[old summit]

my red is missing a few but

[civic heart]

As long as the missings aren't next to each other I can put it together probably

It's mostly logbook order except they move 3 things for the lolz

[old summit]

last ones

[civic heart]

None of the chef meals or purple items have command lists right

[old summit]

artifacts shouldnt

ill quickly test chef

[plush stone]

Ye

Chef Meal does not have command lists

[civic heart]

Keycard and Small Enigma don't

idk about White Undershirt (M)

But probably not

[old summit]

ye can confirm the chef one

[civic heart]

Also is it possible to get Nematocyst Nozzle in command?

[plush stone]

Ye

If you get a boss drop from Vagrant

It will always be Nozzle, even with command

[civic heart]

Never drops a yellow box?

[plush stone]

It does drop a yellow box but there's only one option

Like the elite aspects in 2

[civic heart]

Got it, wonder if I should add that and if so what I'll title it

Should probably also add it to the trivia

[plush stone]

Well it's basically the elite aspect in 2 with command on, there's only one option so phrase it like that will do

[civic heart]

Still weird as it's the only 1 size command menu, keycards and enigmas drop normally

[stuck saffron]

it's because it's the only equipment boss item

[civic heart]

style="text-align: center;" didn't fix this btw

[spring storm]

technically is center alligned

[civic heart]

Don't know what to label the boss equipment menu which is why it isn't there. Also for anybody who has command and one of the following, please send me a screenshot of the command menu with it: Shattering Justice, Fireman's Boots, Ancient Scepter, Filial Imprinting, Predatory Instincts, or Mace Replica (thanks @spring storm)

[civic heart]

This is left alligned

[spring storm]

i mean the expand part is

maybe you just put it in the wrong place

[civic heart]

|+ {{color|uncommon|Uncommon}}
|-``` I don't know enough about media wiki to fix this so it looks normal

[civic heart]

Thanks

[civic heart]

Nice

Do you have filial imprinting and panic mines?

Or really, having one would confirm the other

[plush stone]

I do, I can get a ya a pic if u want

[spring storm]

pred on right, i remember it

game is bullying me with only reds

[civic heart]

Nice, that means https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_of_Command has the lists

[stuck saffron]

what's happening here is that the "Expand" thing is centered with the text above for some reason

not sure how to fix it cause it's added via JS and trying to fix it here might break it in other places

[civic heart]

Trying to put them sideways next to each other, figured out how not to do that

As far as I can tell, tables cannot be put horizantally next to each other and only stacked vertically

[spring storm]

isn't this a line break or something? you would have to have the nth row and all names all next to each other

i feel like it would be odd on small displays

[civic heart]

On small displays it just gets a scrollbar, because image sizing holds the shape there isn't an easy way to change that

I have to sleep now, feel free to mess with the tables as much as you want everyone

[old summit]

did we have someone finding elite boss special effects?

ah found it

[old summit]

so turns out the 30%cap for health left isnt right for CaC

[stuck saffron]

what's the cap then

[old summit]

2 CAC: 6576/13702 hp (52.00%)
3 CAC: 5968/15192 hp (60.7%)
4 CAC: 13898/45231 hp (69.27%)
5 CAC: 14110/57414 hp (75.42%)
6 CAC: 14572/74112 hp (80.34%)
7 CAC: 25864/164450 hp (84.27%)
8 CAC: 9063/72032 hp (87.42%)

so far no clue

[stuck saffron]

I think gummy was saying that if a boss has 30% HP or less the damage doesn't trigger

which would be a different mechanic kinda

[old summit]

ye ive got them doing some test cases for things like that as well

and i scrolled up and gummy said ~30% ahah

i tried putting the CaC into my test enviroment but it doesnt spawn the activate button

also ive got 2 test environments now, one with colossus and the boar one

[wintry cloak]

Each stack seems to be reducing the leftover health by an additional 20%.

In other words, each stack multiplies the health left afterwards by .8, give or take.

[old summit]

not quite though its very odd

[wintry cloak]

from 2 to 3 stacks it deviates, but with higher stacks seems accurate.

[old summit]

either the guys doing the test miss wrote down 3 CAC number or something happened on that spawn OR that specific one is bugged

[wintry cloak]

Damage done in percent is 1-(0.6*0.8^(s-1)) where s is the number of stacks.

[keen mulch]

Discord link here?

Or anywhere on the wiki tbh

[old summit]

Maths!

[keen mulch]

Is gummy the only admin?

[old summit]

someone else got it i think?

[smoky juniper]

elbry got promoted to wiki admin not long ago

but i think the head admin is still gummy

[old summit]

Thats it!

[stuck saffron]

good idea yeah

when I started editing the wiki I had no idea there was a discord

[keen mulch]

Same

[stuck saffron]

and when I arrived here gummy was asking who "elbry on the wiki" was lol I got scared

[keen mulch]

Someone the wikiGG discord suggested it because they couldn't find it either

[stuck saffron]

what's the link to this discord again?

[keen mulch]

No idea

[stuck saffron]

woops

[old summit]

lol

[keen mulch]

Did you find it?

[stuck saffron]

yeah

adding it to the sidebar

[old summit]

yee it works

[keen mulch]

Let's GO

[old summit]

BIG GOOD

[stuck saffron]

oh very nice

[keen mulch]

It'll take some time probably, some changes might be needed and wikiGG has a big backlog of wiki onoarding right now, 100+

[stuck saffron]

that reminds me I need to ask about fonts and mediaviewer

[smoky juniper]

hold on

i forgot what forking means

deprecating? disbanding? obliterating?

[keen mulch]

Copy the wiki to a new one

[stuck saffron]

they make a new wiki based on the old one

and continue from there

[smoky juniper]

oh that’s neat

[old summit]

and leave the old one in the dust

[smoky juniper]

fandom no more

[keen mulch]

The old wikis will continue to exist on fandom

[smoky juniper]

always good

[keen mulch]

Might get taken over by others but I doubt it

[old summit]

Elbry quick q i think you missed the CHEF upgraded slice when you were uploading the skill pics

[stuck saffron]

when I tested chef upgraded slice it had the same icon as another skill for some reason

there's no dedicated icon for it

[old summit]

Wild

ok that was the other idiea i had but that feels so odd

[orchid sundial]

NICE

very good good

[stuck saffron]

it does feel odd yeah

[orchid sundial]

wait so will it be moved to this one?

[stuck saffron]

still have the screenshot

[orchid sundial]

or will ror1 and ror2 have their own sites

[stuck saffron]

I think they'll be their own separate wikis

[orchid sundial]

aw man

still neat though

[stuck saffron]

it just seems simpler

[orchid sundial]

Fandom blows

[orchid sundial]

it is yeah

[old summit]

[orchid sundial]

but risk of rain wiki with all 3 titles would be cool I think

[stuck saffron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/riskofrain/comments/18061zb/fun_fact_drifter_has_multiple_different_items/ wait that's so cool

[orchid sundial]

i thought that was an obvious thing lol

wait holy shit i just realised something

sky meadow might be on this other little moon

because in game the moon is really far away but on sky meadow rorr the planet is far away too

and in sky meadow ror2 the moon is way closer than it should be

actually this is a better shot to show what i mean

sky meadow on little moon

[orchid sundial]

EQUIPMENT CHEST CAN APPEAR IN JUDGEMENT

I REPEAT

EQUIPMENT CHEST CAN SHOW UP IN JUDGEMENT

[stuck saffron]

wtf

[orchid sundial]

last run my friend put the battery in there

im not gonna open it because i wanna try and unlock robo but like

gotdamn

this is huge

[grave rose]

what would you use it for though

other than early brooch and foreign fruit healing all the best equipment has its own multishop

[distant hazel]

That’s hilarious

Does it think the lobby is stage 1 therefore this is stage 2?

[smoky juniper]

oh yeah I found out not long ago

I got captain brooch from a previous run

I considered it cheating but I probably should've announced it here

and is most likely a bug

[orchid sundial]

added a size comparison to the Petrichor V page

based on the sky meadow logbook stating that the planet feels like walking on Mars

so it should roughly be that size

[distant hazel]

[fast sable]

looking at engi's wiki page
allows the turret to fire for the entire duration of the *rain* without *risk*
y'all knew what you were doing lol

[green sequoia]

true

[stuck saffron]

[stuck saffron]

whoever wrote that was inspired lol

[green sequoia]

I'm assuming the +15,951 is bad?
its also a palindrome

[stuck saffron]

it's the number of characters in the edit

[green sequoia]

dang
thats a lot of characters
impressive

[stuck saffron]

I'm making an array with the data of all the skills so we can have tooltips for them on the wiki

but it's taking a while

[green sequoia]

gl

[vivid laurel]

Today i shall upload Bandit's trials

and then tomorrow will be Han-D

[stuck saffron]

nice

[vivid laurel]

Main Systems Offline's description is gonna be wacko

because the enemy spawns depend on a lot of factors

some enemies spawn when you walk into certain rooms

others spawn based on time/score

[primal marsh]

is the secret character going to be added to the wiki

[vivid laurel]

check pins

[distant hazel]

when they want to

[primal marsh]

got it

[stuck saffron]

do we have skill cooldowns in the google sheet?

just realized I forgot to add them 💀

[orchid sundial]

added the end quotes to all the survivor pages

go check them out when you can

[vivid laurel]

i have added Bandit's trial videos

either tomorrow or tonight i shall add Han-D's

i just noticed something

Engineer has the least amount of colors of any character

his only unlockable one is Judgment

i guess they didnt want to recolor all his props

[timber slate]

bruh why tf does a wiki ||lack a character 💀, what are yall doing with robomando||

potentialspoiler for character

it's a wikipedia, it's supposed to have information, including hidden information. ||not having stats or whatever for a survivor because "it's a secret" is really childish and kinda against the point of a wikipedia as a source of knowledge for a game.||

has this been discussed and who's idea is this

[orchid sundial]

yes its been discussed you are the 50th to complain about it

[timber slate]

that's a lot of people

[orchid sundial]

it doesnt matter if its a wiki its secret content

we'll add it at some point

[timber slate]

it's a wikipedia

it's built, for knowledge, secret or not

[orchid sundial]

its not childish though

its a choice

[vivid laurel]

if you want to know about the character theres other places you can check currently lol

[orchid sundial]

and the choice is to just not have robomando on there yet now please shut up

[timber slate]

if someone has access to information, and you have a site that's attempting to be a list of that information, then it's very childish to not list

[orchid sundial]

its not childish you're just pulling that word out of your ass

[timber slate]

where lol, other wikis don't have it, i couldn't find it online

[orchid sundial]

discord search bar, youtube

reddit

twitter

google

[timber slate]

i'm making an executive ass choice to ignore you bc youre being an asshole

[orchid sundial]

ok

[timber slate]

but seriously why is this character not listed on a wikipedia for this game bruh, can I ask like, who's idea this is? it's a wiki, you can have spoiler tags

or have the links be inaccessable from other links, or direct searchable

[orchid sundial]

@granite flax can you just say the same thing i said with the fancy thing next to your name so they stop asking

[timber slate]

is this like, a voted on thing or just a decision by whoever's running the wiki