ror-wiki-discussion

[keen mulch]

I can't delete pages, but I can do that

[bitter finch]

Cant you rotate the images on the items, enemies, stages and artifacts like on the the survivors on the main page?

[old summit]

That’s a goal for today

[keen mulch]

What do you mean rotate?

Oh, I see

Well, main page editing is mostly only available to admins

[old summit]

ye the idea was brought up as gummy was going to bed so its definitely on the list

[mint wing]

I feel like he should be on the wiki

Main page

[stuck saffron]

who?

[mint wing]

Robomando

[stuck saffron]

It was decided to leave secrets out of the wiki for now

@granite flax reverted the robomando changes on the survivor page for now

huh there's also a whole page

well not much I can do about that lol

[keen mulch]

I hid all the info on that page

I could move it to change the name of the page

[old summit]

nothing to see here

[keen mulch]

Put a notice in there as well, that if someone decides to edit the page again they can see why we have hidden it

[void flume]

Probably want to be a bit more vague, there.

[keen mulch]

Why?

[void flume]

Well by keeping the name, and saying "secret character", that's pretty much as spoiling of the surprise as it gets

[keen mulch]

Yeah, but the only people going to read this are people who already know about it

[void flume]

So it begs the question, why hide it in the first place?

[keen mulch]

I didn't decide that

[old summit]

the only thing shown to the people who arent looking at the code is "nothing to see here"

[keen mulch]

I would add robomando to the wiki, with all info, but most people have agreed not to, so I don't

This is just a solution to keep people from re-adding the info on this page that has been created

I can't delete the page, only admins can

So, this is just there until the admin can decide what to do with it

I could just delete all info, but I put the notice there to give people who want to add info on why it isn't there yet

oh hello

[stuck saffron]

there should probably be a pinned message here with this tbh

[silk sonnet]

Sorry if I had caused trouble, I didn't create the page but I added to it while it was made in an effort to help out.

I think that it's a good idea to have the information available on the wiki, but maybe on the survivors page there could be a dropdown in order to see them? (as is the case with a lot of 'secret' characters on wikis I've seen) The page title is an unavoidable issue but I think a spoiler warning on the top of the page still suffices

[keen mulch]

knowledge about robomando will spread, it's all over the discord here, will be on reddit as well probably. It's just temporary probably.

[keen mulch]

No worries, you just wanted to help the wiki. It's why I put the notice there.

Not everyone knows about this channel, and most people just want to contribute and help

[silk sonnet]

I didn't even know about this channel until the robomando edits mentioned a discussion on the discord

and then I was like, well shoot, I hope some of the changes I've made on the wiki haven't been recieved negatively

I also created a very incomplete page for difficulty since I think it's a very important mechanic and it is a useful thing to link to for several other pages, and as reference material for people playing the game. I'm not the greatest at creating pages from scratch so I'd appreciate any kind of help with getting it to be more fleshed out

[keen mulch]

It looks good imo

Could also mention rules on there?

like damage done and taken, I think

Maybe rulesets, but that might its own page I think

[stuck saffron]

looking good, unfortunately we don't have any stats since we don't have access to the gamecode

so it'll have to be vague for now

[silk sonnet]

Ohh, that's a bit unfortunate, I guess you could just try to do some really aggressive math to find out approximate answers for it, but that's a lot of effort for an answer that would only be in the ballpark

[keen mulch]

I don't think its necessary to be honest. It would be nice to have.

[silk sonnet]

It'd certainly be an 'eventually' goal to have a page as fleshed out as the difficulty one for ror2, lol

[stuck saffron]

yeah that page is great

[keen mulch]

They got the math

Also, it might be good to make pages like this. It's no use to make pages with info if people can't reach it

There is a search options, but a more easy way to find info is important imo

So something like this on the main page might be something worth thinking about

[silk sonnet]

Ror2 is certainly spoiled by how many of its cards it keeps on the table, and how long the mod manager has been unearthing a lot of the deeper mechanics, but I do agree that having tabs on the main page for pretty much everything a player will be curious about is a good idea

the ones along the bottom of the current main page provide a 'good enough' solution, but there's always the thoughts of doing even better

[keen mulch]

But for now it's important to fill in the info we do have. Like artifact, log, prism locations

Or what enemies spawn in what locations

I have more time this weekend to do all that

Or attempt to do that

[swift plinth]

Is it still using GM? No decompilers available?

[stuck saffron]

It's compiled using YYC and there are no tools for that yet

[swift plinth]

oof

[stuck saffron]

we have access to sprites and stuff with UndertaleModTools but that's mostly it

[swift plinth]

Even if you could, it would be very hard to make sense of then

I was trying to figure out a couple quirks with ability damage, but the RNG on displayed damage numbers makes that... challenging

[keen mulch]

I added a thing to the enemy infobox for monsters that have subtitles

Might need some rework, don't know how to make the text a bit bigger

[stuck saffron]

we don't have a lot of control over these elements in a portable infobox tbh, I think we need to do it via CSS

not 100% sure though

[patent geode]

Can someone add the idle survivor sprites to the wiki? They would be pretty useful to do art

[swift plinth]

What's the plan if an in-game description isn't fully accurate?

Flamethrower's description, for example, is slightly wrong in that the ability deals 12x80, not 10x80

[void flume]

Hm, I have an idea, actually

Off the top of your head, do you know if we can do hover-over context?

[swift plinth]

Not a clue, haven't contributed anything to the wiki yet

I'm mostly just interested in ensuring ability info is precise

Could include tabulated info on abilities alongside their descriptions

Startup delay, firing rate, end lag, range, area of effect, number of burn ticks, things like that

Though realistically the only ones you could include are like, number of burn ticks

and correct values for damage

[placid salmon]

a gif of the attack playing would be cool

[swift plinth]

Oh, and cooldown time

That's important

[stuck saffron]

yup we need to add those

the gifs are easy enough to get, just time consuming

but how should we display them 🤔

[placid salmon]

probably as a sort of uhhh

dropdown?

so that loading the page doesn't also load like 10 gifs all at once

[stuck saffron]

I'd rather not clutter the wiki with sprites we aren't gonna use, but I can send the sprites to you via dm if you want

(they're very small though)

[placid salmon]

I do think having all the survivor animations on their page would be good

[stuck saffron]

might get a bit too cluttered

[placid salmon]

just keep em organized and probably near the bottom of the page

[void flume]

I had to hand edit that.

...I didn't even edit it right.

But you get what I mean!

[placid salmon]

like just have an "animations" section wayyyyyyy at the bottom, but above Trivia, because Trivia always goes last, just the way things are done of course

Idle, Walking, Jumping, Climbing, Dying?

I think are all the relevant animations?

[void flume]

I think putting everything in the Gallery section, when it comes to things like survivor sprites, is good form

[placid salmon]

fall is just part of the jump

[void flume]

It's relatively out of the way, and there'll always be the traversal window at the top to jump categories

[placid salmon]

and all the different attack animations could potentially be stored with the skill itself?

[stuck saffron]

fall and jump are just two different sprites

[placid salmon]

yeh

I think some characters have like, one extra frame

like HAN-D

has a slightly more smooth jump animation

[stuck saffron]

might be different from survivor to survivor, for instance most survivors only have a static sprite for their idle pose, but Huntress has a whole animation

[past stratus]

You can try something similar to how RoR2 wiki solved it via noting a correction. You either have the wrong value and have a note saying the correct one (I think this is bad), or have the correct values in the description and note that the in-game description is wrong (I think good).

I also did the latter on League Wiki, although, they don't use that feature as much as I wished it.

[placid salmon]

yeah assuming each skill in the wiki has a "notes" section you'd put it there

Note: The in game description says X despite this not being the case.

[stuck saffron]

we could do this if we had access to the common.css file

as it is only admins can edit it, which makes sense

[stuck saffron]

the RoR2 wiki does it like this

I guess we could add a cell below each skill and put notes there

[placid salmon]

preferably one you can click to hide or pop out

[void flume]

We do also need a method of displaying cooldowns, as well.

[keen mulch]

I can add it like have added the subtitle to the enemy infobox

where should it be?

Under description?

[placid salmon]

probably

[past stratus]

Soz for late reply. Tl;Dr: I don't like it because I don't know how to utilise it well. Additionally, I have massive skill issue trying to use it. I also miss out on the guaranteed taunting capabilities of Frost Barrier, which helps so much against crowds. I can already dodge stuff by myself, so might as well just keep using what works for me.

[past stratus]

Personally, I would consider making a skill template.

[placid salmon]

the yeetus is naturally less combat oriented but the movement it grants makes for better stage clears which means enemies won't be as strong thanks to a tighter timer

that's the real tradeoff

[past stratus]

Current method is not nice, but understandable because early days.

[keen mulch]

oh, I thought you were talking about items

[stuck saffron]

yeah I was thinking about doing that

making any change to the way skills are displayed is a nightmare rn

[void flume]

Since all the information is already there, if you were to make the template, I could cycle back and update all the survivor pages.

Since survivors aren't already using a skill template that you're going to edit, you making any changes externally like that won't break anything

[patent geode]

Id appreciate it
Im looking to make custom sprites, thats why

I just need a single idle sprite as a reference of how the artstyle and resolution is

[void flume]

With that in mind, it's probably a good idea not to scale up survivor gallery sprites

[swift plinth]

As for skill templates, It might be nice to try and match the in-game menu's style somewhat. As a mockup,

[stuck saffron]

I can work with that

[void flume]

Would it be possible to create tabs? Like "Snipe | Improvise"?

[stuck saffron]

I'd love to do something akin to the skill select screen (with only one skill displayed at a time for each skill type)

[patent geode]

Also arent idles like

A single sprite

[stuck saffron]

but not sure if that's feasible without access to the CSS? will see

[swift plinth]

No clue, that was just excel, I wasn't going to prototype with markup

[stuck saffron]

some of them are animated

[swift plinth]

I think arti is animated

[stuck saffron]

Huntress, CHEF, and Artificer iirc

[patent geode]

I still do think adding the first sprite of each idle animation as "ingame appaerance" would be nice

[void flume]

I think Gummy should be awake some time soon, so I'll @granite flax here so they're caught up with the idea

[stuck saffron]

I sent you the sprites via DM if you want to take a look, picked the first frame of the animation where applicable

[void flume]

Fired-up miner, as well

Wrong reply, oh well

[stuck saffron]

ah true

what a guy

[void flume]

pissed

[grave rose]

hi guys. was wondering how detailed the all systems offline trial page should/could be considering there's a lot to document with just individual items and scripted enemy spawns

it's the one with passive damage han-d

[wary sundial]

For a page so specialised, imo there's no limit at the very least

Minimum a summary as in X enemy type Y modifier for Z room kinda thing I feel would be good, could add more detail like if it adds things to the spawning pool (not sure if things are entirely time/kill based) and ofc loot contained

[void flume]

Aye, I agree that you could really go into detail if you want, just make sure it's all formatted and readable and should be a-okay

[granite flax]

[granite flax]

i think its better to have them all layed out, just for convenience's sake

@keen mulch i see youre making infobox changes, just making sure to remind you that if you do that you need to update it on both the relevant templates, and the pages that already use the infobox

going to work on getting full screenshots of all maps tonight :]

ohhhh my game did NOT like that

oh hey it worked though

[grave rose]

I'm not nearly good enough at the game to get a grip on this lol. 2 hours in and the best I got is all lower rooms and only 2,5k points
just gonna skip this one for now I think

[stuck saffron]

lmao what did you do

[granite flax]

look ma, no backgrounds!

[granite flax]

went into the data of the game and replaced the background images with a 1x1 transparent pixel thensaved it

its not entirely lossles doin it this way, i just needed to see if it would work

maybe i should not have done this actuyally i hope i can undo it easily

[grave rose]

just delete the placeholder and verify file integrity on steam, it should download the normal textures

[granite flax]

ok phew i thought so

yippeeeee i didnt brick my game :)

so i think what ill do is export the sheets that have background tiles and then manually erase just those

so i dont lose the non-parallax background stuff

[distant hazel]

Apparently it’s a 20% chance to double the result, including drones

[wary sundial]

Correct, doesn't mention drones by name on the tooltip so not sure if it does as it didn't double when I used it (but i didn't see many drones before run ending)

[distant hazel]

Judgement color palettes are all providence color palettes

I’m so slow

[granite flax]

im a little sad only engi got super special treatment

would have loved to have seen a little bit of custom spritework on some of the others

[distant hazel]

What’s the criteria for the 500-1000% when parrying

Is it the hit damage or the number of hits or something

[granite flax]

i think we'd have to either figure that out ourselves or ask a dev

[wary sundial]

I thought it was charge time xP

[void flume]

I believe if it's you don't parry anything, it does the 500% swipe.

[wary sundial]

Oh right that's also a thing

[void flume]

Because it does still do an attack if you mistime it, it's just not stunning or high damage

[distant hazel]

Speaking of parry, I couldn’t parry lava

[wary sundial]

That checks out with what it looks like in the trial

[granite flax]

i thought the parry did damage proportional to the attack youre parrying?

am i crazuy

[void flume]

It's an idea I'd believe, at least.

[granite flax]

ah

[distant hazel]

What the god damn hell

Is that from removing backgrounds

[granite flax]

yeah

fixin it now lol

replacing them with solid color instead of void

[distant hazel]

[granite flax]

ok amazing, got them all working!

time to take a billion screenshots and then go on a big long log-hunting run

fill out my gaps

im actually surprised how many i already have though

these are the only ones im missing :o

[granite flax]

yippee!

these will be awesome to have on the wiki

[old summit]

hot damn

[granite flax]

if someone could also grab me in-game shots of where the logs are (at full scale) that would be hugely appreciate

i cant do it because i already have them

dont look to closely at the waterfalls </3

i tried to sync them up but realized it was a fools errand and nobody but me would care

[orchid sundial]

should the trivia sections on each page be listed as field notes for a little more charm

[granite flax]

maybe not, just because it might give the impression its in-game details

and field notes are used elsewhere (monster logs, for example)

[stuck saffron]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:ItemLink I made a small template that I think will be useful for the trials pages at least, and if we shore up pages with item suggestions and stuff

Should make all the links to items uniform at least, cause the sizes of the item images in the trials pages were not the same everywhere

[distant hazel]

notes are notes

trivia is trivia

I only made artifacts have tips & trivia because I thought those sections would be too small on their own

[granite flax]

they certainly should have been if they were used right, i think

all image files are at the same scale, with the naming scheme "Itemname.png"

first letter caps, all punctuation omitted

[stuck saffron]

Well this makes sure this file is used in all cases

end goal would be to shore this up with tooltips for each item I think

so that when they're mentioned somewhere their effects are displayed if you hover the link without having to go the page

[distant hazel]

has the wiki beens low the past 2 days

[languid sierra]

this is from ror1 wiki, anyone confirm if this is still true about blighted enemies?

[distant hazel]

I haven't seen that

yet

I saw a double drop on a normal elite with sacrifice+clover

I think I saw it but I didn't really read chat so I'm gonna ask again

is there gonna be a page of game mechanics that will link to other pages like interactables and stuff

or a category page will also solve that

it should probably go on the side navigation bar if it does exist

[orchid sundial]

can we have the infobox font changed to the one on the main pages?

[distant hazel]

what are the file names for controller buttons

I definitely saw them and now I forget where I saw them

that's a mission for later

[old summit]

they start with sInput mainly

[distant hazel]

found them

[old summit]

ive got the whole thing downloaded just so i can quick scroll aha

[orchid sundial]

rahhh

[stuck saffron]

we'd need access to the CSS

cause we can't apply a CSS style to the infoboxes through the templates, we have to go through the CSS

[orchid sundial]

im gonna add soundtrack section to the stage pages can one of you guys confirm this isnt gonna destroy the entire infobox

ive never messed with infobox source before so i dont want to detonate the wiki like a bomb

wait okay i set it to say parameter 4

im gonna save it and see if it works and if it doesnt i'll just revert it

[stuck saffron]

you can build an infobox on the template page

and test with the preview function

[orchid sundial]

oh boy everything is squished now

[stuck saffron]

just copy-paste one from a page that has it and add your stuff

[orchid sundial]

how do i move the parameters to be in rows on the bottom instead of left to right

[stuck saffron]

move it out the <group> tag

[orchid sundial]

so just get rid of this yeah

god i must sound like such a fucking idiot im so sorry LOL

[stuck saffron]

no don't remove the end tag lol

[orchid sundial]

oh wait is it this thing

group layout vertical

[stuck saffron]

hold on let me see if I can do it

[orchid sundial]

that would be great yeah

[stuck saffron]

best I can do I think

[grave rose]

well it's not bad

[stuck saffron]

they're not very flexible lol

[orchid sundial]

thats great thank you

[stuck saffron]

I saved it, you can try and update the stages now

[orchid sundial]

this is great thank you

im gonna go and add soundtrack to all the stages

ok now big question do i just make it say the track name or do i specify its the 2023 remaster

because they all have this at the end of them

[grave rose]

I think Chris said it's the same raw files just recompiled with better quality

so ig just the track name

[stuck saffron]

yeah, the "... returns" tracks are the ones that are actually different I think

you could link to the Spotify or YT of the songs so it's clear maybe

[granite flax]

i like linking them, thats good :)

[orchid sundial]

i'll link them to the youtube uploads after i figure out what the song that plays in ancient valley is

im so lost help

[amber flare]

what does Kill Providence while backflipping. mean? you cant shoot while backflipping

and does that mean providences last stage?

[stuck saffron]

Aurora Borealis probably

[orchid sundial]

im torn between that and Arctic Oscillation

[orchid sundial]

it works on all 4 phases

you just have to be doing the animation when he dies

[amber flare]

god bless 😭

[grave rose]

you can still deal damage from other sources like equipment or rockets

[stuck saffron]

yeah equipment or drones are the most reliable for this I think

[hexed viper]

should start listing the list of monster spawns in Judgement

[stuck saffron]

good luck 🫡

[grave rose]

do upgraded drones have names beyond ie "tier 2 gunner"?

[hexed viper]

what doyou call those lynx tribe enemies with spears?

theres one that throws stuff and one that dashes with a spear right

[grave rose]

I called them melee lynx and ranged lynx for that one trial

[granite flax]

theres 3 lynxes, Archer, Hunter, and Scout

[stuck saffron]

I had no idea they had names 😭

[granite flax]

i think you only see them if killed by them or sniper's spotter

same as lemurian lancer

[grave rose]

I forgot about spotter tbh

[granite flax]

and snow/shining golems

[stuck saffron]

#ror-wiki-discussion message all the names are here

[granite flax]

btw if anyone gets the chance PLEASE use snipers spotter (or die to) the lemurian cavalry's boar on its own

ive not had the chance, but it has no defined name or translation string and im very curious to know what the game calls it

[stuck saffron]

I hope it's called Lemurian Cavalier

[orchid sundial]

you got it boss

[granite flax]

i would very much doubt it since its not a lemurian

[orchid sundial]

i'll do it next sniper run unless someone else does it first

[granite flax]

seems to be a more feral(?) boarlit

tysm

[orchid sundial]

its probably just gonna be called boarlit

or lemurian cavalry

[stuck saffron]

ah no I misunderstood, I thought we were talking about the lemurian not the boar

[granite flax]

nah the lemurian does have a name, its lemurian lancer

[stuck saffron]

no clue then

I'll try and report

[granite flax]

1 more desolate forest map then ive got em all

so awesome..

[orchid sundial]

i like the idea of putting all the stage variants on the pages

[hexed viper]

which ones which?

[granite flax]

yeah i will be :)

[orchid sundial]

i can go give each page a section for variants right now in prep for you having them all

[granite flax]

archer is the one that shoots, hunter is the one with the spear, scout is the flat-looking guy

[orchid sundial]

adding this to all stage pages currently

[granite flax]

yessss perf!

[hexed viper]

also do you want me to list the spawns in order or just tally them all

if its the former ill just send in a txt file because its gonna be long lol

[granite flax]

in order, preferably!

[hexed viper]

oka

[granite flax]

are you playing as you go?

[orchid sundial]

god my shit is lagging so hard going through all these pages

im gonna put them up to third stage right now this is so frustrating

wait nvm lag has stopped a bit

[stuck saffron]

I think it's the wiki, not you

[orchid sundial]

just so im getting this right stage 5 still has 6 variants right?

[stuck saffron]

I think so

can't check rn

[hexed viper]

watching footage

although i might doze off im pretty tired lol

[granite flax]

stages 1-5 have 6 variants

risk of rain has 2 and boar beach just 1

[orchid sundial]

right cheers

added them all

everywhere but boar beach because FUCK boar beach theres no point in having a variants section if theres just one

[granite flax]

desolate forest(s) done !!

[stuck saffron]

welp

seems like the boar's name is Lemurian Cavalry

[stuck saffron]

nice!

[granite flax]

awesome, thanks! very sad...

[grave rose]

do scavengers actually have different items like in ror2? is there any way to tell what items a trial scavenger has other than by looking at it?

[hexed viper]

doubt they do

[granite flax]

they may have items during a trial, but not during normal gameplay

[patent geode]

will there be a ||robomando|| wiki page

[stuck saffron]

eventually yes

[dawn cairn]

what is the imp vanguard?

[wintry cloak]

Miniboss that spawns every 10 minutes if you have artifact of origin active.

[dawn cairn]

i see

[distant hazel]

can you make a table cell automatically resize so it's as wide as the content inside it

[stuck saffron]

with some css trickery, probably

[orchid sundial]

updated stub template

[honest slate]

I think it would be cool to use the artifact shard as the stub item icon thing

If that’s not too much to ask

[orchid sundial]

i'll do that actually yeah

is the artifact shard even on the wiki yet?

[honest slate]

I think there’s this

[orchid sundial]

cheers

[honest slate]

I don’t know if the picture is actually on the wiki yet though

[rare rock]

me when

[orchid sundial]

FATTY DRIFTER SPOTTED IN THE FILE UPLOAD

engi looks like eric cartman

no artifact shard on the wiki and i am not combing through the google drive how does a crowbar look

[granite flax]

ah ive got the shard hold on

[orchid sundial]

gummy gremlin saving the day as always

godspeed goat

[stuck saffron]

there's 2 different shards though

[orchid sundial]

pick the one that looks coolest i guess

[stuck saffron]

wait no there's 4

[distant hazel]

yeah I know those aren't slices ignore them

[orchid sundial]

im gonna have to make the stub thing purple once the shard is on it so i'll change the spoiler warning to red

[stuck saffron]

aaah the prism shard

[orchid sundial]

thats a prismatic shard

i guess it would work actually

hold on

[granite flax]

oh wait what shard were you after

[stuck saffron]

i thought we were talking about these ones

[granite flax]

i did think it was a weird choice

[orchid sundial]

yeah those

[granite flax]

OH lol

[orchid sundial]

alright what one do we use

what one looks the most unfinished

[stuck saffron]

might need to upscale them to use them though

[orchid sundial]

its pretty small on its own it'll be fine

[granite flax]

always upscale

[distant hazel]

this cooldown listing is awkward

[orchid sundial]

i'll set it up the now

[stuck saffron]

I tried for a while but I didn't get anything I liked

I even uploaded this clock.png to use as a cooldown icon but meh

[distant hazel]

hold up

actually idk

[orchid sundial]

doneso

[distant hazel]

did you try putting it in row 1

what's the name of that clock image

[stuck saffron]

Clock.png 💀

[stuck saffron]

nice

[distant hazel]

we're so close

[stuck saffron]

lmao

[granite flax]

its 49

[stuck saffron]

thanks, these maths puzzles are really hard

[distant hazel]

width is annoying me

[orchid sundial]

made a cool thing for pages with similar names

{{Template:Disambig
|current=
|link=
}}

[void flume]

Aw man, we lost the surprised lemurian spoiler

[orchid sundial]

if there was a red one i wouldve kept it

but i didnt want there to be 2 things of the same colour

and the red looks more like a warning

[stuck saffron]

soundtrack links are done

[orchid sundial]

tyty

did you link them to youtube spotify or bandcamp

[stuck saffron]

youtube

[orchid sundial]

fair

bandcamp would probably be a good choice because you can directly support the artist there but youtube makes the most sense

[stuck saffron]

ah sorry didn't know about bandcamp

[distant hazel]

I want "unlock" to be a different width than the images but that's too advanced apparently

[orchid sundial]

oh no its fine i dont even know if the ost is up on there yet lol

[orchid sundial]

it is not a default skill fyi

[distant hazel]

oh did I confuse them

[orchid sundial]

yeah

[distant hazel]

it doesn't really matter because this is an example table

it's on my user page

[orchid sundial]

ah okay

[stuck saffron]

it tries to make the whole column the same width, that's how html tables work :/

don't know if there's much you can do

apart from doing something with like 20 columns in a colgroup but at this point you could just make a grid instead

[granite flax]

storing this here for now

for #5

[dawn cairn]

anyone know if gups spawn in any other location other than hive cluster?

is it also magma barracks?

[orchid sundial]

hive cluster and post loop I think

[dawn cairn]

i see

is just putting hive cluster on the wiki page a safe bet?

[orchid sundial]

yeah just go with that

until we can know for sure

[dawn cairn]

okay, gup page is done then

unless someone has trivia

[granite flax]

in risk of rain 1, gups, geeps, and gips shared the same sprite but scaled down

[dawn cairn]

oh awesome, thanks

[void flume]

I think one of the templates has an unclosed center-text modifier, because er, the Providence page looks like this now.

[stuck saffron]

judging by the black border going all around the page, it's the disambig template

I'll take a look

[distant hazel]

providence
behaviour: obnoxious

[stuck saffron]

should be fixed

[orchid sundial]

oh that's why trials page messed up when I tried to use it on there

ty for fixing

[grizzled pasture]

So will Multiplayer drones be added to the drones page?

[orchid sundial]

probably not

[void flume]

I envisioned a small section for them, but there's not too much detail to go over about 'em

[granite flax]

the drones page is really just going to be a bullet list with sprites

• drone name + picture
• base cost
• base stats, when we figure those out
• maps it can spawn on (when applicable)
• upgrades into (when applicable)
• upgraded from (when applicable)

[orchid sundial]

could we maybe have something like this on the wiki?

and we could add robomando to the wiki but just use this to block it out

[granite flax]

we should have a spoiler box anyway, but regardless robomando isn't going up yet

[orchid sundial]

im gonna make a little spoiler box right now if thats okay

[granite flax]

go for it!

[distant hazel]

lol

[granite flax]

saving this here too #2

[distant hazel]

does fit-content not work for table cell width

[orchid sundial]

spoiler box is too hard to make

[stuck saffron]

lol I'll make one later

[distant hazel]

YEAH

I got the images to auto resize

or the column with images I mean

[granite flax]

very interesting: seems like access codes cant kill a boss ever, even if its on like 1 health

it takes it down from max health, but if youve damaged it more than that already, it wont do anything (?)

[distant hazel]

the 2nd and 3rd ones have padding now

[granite flax]

storing here for now #1

[distant hazel]

you seem to be in danger

[orchid sundial]

run

[distant hazel]

also, if I understand it right, your normal font size is 1em

so instead of 14px you can set a size as 1em instead

but you can't use em units for pictures

I tried to make Clock.png 1em and it didn't work

[stuck saffron]

yeah you need an actual pixel size for pictures

[distant hazel]

I'm going to get a burger

all of this is on my user page

[granite flax]

another storage #6

[lyric moat]

Sorry to bother you all, I was wondering if anybody has saved the pic of where the Hive Cluster variant 5 location is? The wiki isn't updated with the pics yet. I've been looping for 6+ hours and it's the last environment log I'm missing. I feel like the logs aren't usually hard to miss- esp. on Hive Cluster, but I feel like I'm going insane.

[granite flax]

not yet unfortunately, but thats what im working on right now

[lyric moat]

Ah, that's amazing! If you happen to find the location for it, please @ me!

[granite flax]

will do! :)

[lyric moat]

Ty!!

[timber zephyr]

Scrolling thru the rorr items and I found 2 inconsistencies, some items, mainly tough times, are a bit oversized at around 3× the size of what it should be. I'm kinda looking through this wiki daily so I'll report more on some inconsistencies, I think this wiki is already excellent and I want it to be as perfect as it can be! :)
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Tough_Times

Also Tesla Coil just straight up doesn't have an image for it's page lol. If anyone has a transparent bg image of the rorr tesla coil @ me cuz I need it for something I'm working on pls and thank u!!
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Tesla_Coil

Soldiers Syringe also has the 3× scaling problem, unless this is intended and the items that are 1× like Harvester Scythe aren't intended
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Soldier's_Syringe

[granite flax]

tough times is the correct size, every item should be about that big are the others not?

[timber zephyr]

quite alot of them aren't, actually I'd say most of them are 1×

[granite flax]

argh

thanks for letting me know ill fix that

[timber zephyr]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Harvester's_Scythe

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Predatory_Instincts

Ofc!

Could you also add a 1× scale of the items aside from the 3× on the wiki or is that not allowed?

just curious

[granite flax]

im not quite sure what you mean, sorry

as in, add a 1x scale next to the 3x one?

[timber zephyr]

Yeah!

atleast something like that, I just like seeing sprites in their original sizes

that and also getting the og sizes makes it easier to grab the colors for me loll

[granite flax]

haha, true! ill see where i can make it fit ^^

[timber zephyr]

Thank you very much!! I really appreciate it! Good luck and have a lovely day!

[potent rock]

Hey, y'all, pcj from wiki.gg here, let me know if you need anything on the wiki side of things

[granite flax]

amazing, thank you so much :] will do

[granite flax]

yep, can confirm!

storing #3

[orchid sundial]

you on the grind jesus

[granite flax]

i wanna get the rest of these logs so i can make the maps :)

i am getting abhorrent luck though

i have gotten dried lake only twice

[lyric moat]

I still haven't found Hive Cluster 5 yet btw. <_> I get Magma Caverns most of the time and when I do find Hive Cluster, it's never variant 5.

If I find it, I might as well take the screenshot for you to use lol.

[granite flax]

if you do that would be amazing ^_^ im still on the lookout for now

it took me so long to find this lol

[lyric moat]

Sounds good, will do!

[stuck saffron]

looks like the mw-collapsible class does not work

so making a spoiler box is... complicated lol

[granite flax]

spoiler box doesnt have to be collapsible, i dont think ive ever seen a wiki where it is tbh

[stuck saffron]

i've only seen collapsible lol

[distant hazel]

{{|}}- 
! style="background-color:dimgray;"{{|}} Unlock
{{|}} colspan="2" {{|}} Complete the Providence Trial "From All Angles".
{{|}}-
! colspan="3" style="background-color:dimgray;"{{|}} Notes
{{|}}-
{{|}} colspan="3" style="text-align:left;" {{|}}
{{{unlock}}}|}}```

idk where I went wrong

[granite flax]

god damn it i spawn on the dried lake i didnt have the log for but had so much speed i ran into it instantly so i didnt get to screenshot XD

[stuck saffron]

oof 😢

[distant hazel]

oh

[finite ruin]

There a reason robomando isn’t on the wiki yet?

[distant hazel]

admin doesn't feel like it

[finite ruin]

Oh

Ok then

[distant hazel]

nvm I thought I solved my problem

I did not

it keeps going off to the side

it's super ignoring the |- to make a new row

[stuck saffron]

can you send me the entire thing

or save and I'll check

[distant hazel]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:Skills

[granite flax]

very very hostile way of putting it 😭

[distant hazel]

the template works fine when the thing is blank, which is what I want

[granite flax]

we're notting adding robomando for now because the game is fresh and the wiki is highly trafficked, and we dont want to spoil people

[distant hazel]

but breaks when the thing has info

[stuck saffron]

should be like this?

[distant hazel]

yeah

[stuck saffron]

ah fuck I fixed it but I caused another issue hold on

but basically you need to escape pipe characters inside your if function

otherwise it thinks they're part of the function and not the table

alright I think it's good

at least this part

[distant hazel]

oh I thought I had to use curly braces around the pipe characters

I didn't know I literally had to use {{!}}

ty ty 🙏

[distant hazel]

alright

I'm going to play pokemon

idk how I'll deal with people with multiple skill icons but I'll jump off that bridge later

like engi or enforcer

and chef is gonna be special too

[stuck saffron]

@granite flax dunno if you have this one

sunken tomb #5

also this

[lyric moat]

@granite flax FINALLY THE HUNT IS OVER. Hive Cluster variant 5

[distant hazel]

ok now I'm really out I'll return in 2 hours

a specialversion tab would probably work for ancient scepter

[keen mulch]

Go catch some animals and make them fight

[orchid sundial]

can we make the little subtext thing smaller

[stuck saffron]

I can do this

[orchid sundial]

can we move the fucking uhh

ground zero thing to below the image

(like it is on the ror2 wiki because i think that wiki looks really nice)

this is really good design i love it

the survivor infoboxes are also really nice in that place i would like it if it was similar here

[stuck saffron]

best I can do

[orchid sundial]

nice one thank you

[stuck saffron]

If we want more control over the infoboxes we could switch to tables instead of using PortableInfobox

[orchid sundial]

BEFORE I DO THIS TO THE ENTIRE PAGE is this worth doing

[stuck saffron]

but maybe later

[orchid sundial]

changing them from a big list to a gallery

[void flume]

I would personally prefer it that way myself, but it may be a differing opinion

[stuck saffron]

we'd need upscaled sprites for the gallery imo

[orchid sundial]

ive made each button smaller for now until we get upscaling

time to get to my tedious work

at least im in a vc

[stuck saffron]

well

I could write something to automate it

dunno what modules we have access to

dont need much actually

we could build a database of all monsters in a module and then reference that to build a gallery from the list

would save on time and then you'd only need to update the DB when updating data and it would reflect across all pages that use that data

[orchid sundial]

we work to earn the right to work to e

[stuck saffron]

lmao good luck

[orchid sundial]

how do we get a thingy like this

at the bottom of pages

[void flume]

Navigation template

[stuck saffron]

we build a template for it

and then we stick at the bottom of pages

[orchid sundial]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemies boom

check it

yes the images dont link to stuff no i literally have no idea how to fix it i think thats how galleries just work

[stuck saffron]

it's the ]] at the end of the file names

I'm pretty sure

you need to remove them

[orchid sundial]

right got it

workin on it

ty

[stuck saffron]

I wanted to see how high above the shrine of the mountain the little icon is, because I want to recreate it and it's not on the sprite

so I launched a quick Drizzle game to check

it took me 50mn to find a single shrine

[orchid sundial]

how do i fix the weird looking text down here btw

[stuck saffron]

I thought it was a stylistic choice 😂

[orchid sundial]

oh also this is a super huge stretch but what if i made little gifs that look like the rorr in game buttons with the enemies on them so theres no need for text at the bottom and it looks like you're clicking on an in game button

so it looks kinda like this

but with "rock golem" at the bottom in the in game font or something

it would take forever but it would look super nice

[stuck saffron]

need to make every line look like this (no spaces)

[orchid sundial]

alrighty thank you

[gray dove]

hey how are the item pages going to be laid out? rn they are only infoboxes and i would like to contribute so

any completed item pages i can use as a frame of reference?

[stuck saffron]

I don't think there are, so no idea yet

[gray dove]

want to list all the abilities ancient scepter changes just like the ror1 wiki in a table so i want to make sure what im doing is uniform with the rest of the wiki

ah, alright, np

i'll still add a table anyway, i just won't write any intros or anything like that until something uniform comes up

[stuck saffron]

playing with fire lol

[distant hazel]

I have ideas for the skill table

Just gonna add a “super” parameter and it’ll add another row below the main description with the buffed description

Relevant for chef and for scepter things

Do any super skills change cooldown

[stuck saffron]

Well, the scepter reduces special skill cooldown by 20%

So technically no I think? But effectively yes

[distant hazel]

That is true

But a scepter skill won’t be used without the scepter

[stuck saffron]

I don't think you should put an updated cooldown imo

Since it's a property of the scepter and not the skill itself

[gray dove]

i was just doing this for the table, should i continue with this layout or?

oh the width of the upgraded skill column is messed up ill fix that

either way this is a lot better than just a blank page and having people just go to each individual survivor page so whatever

[orchid sundial]

this is pretty good yeah

personally though i would drop having the original skill there

if they want more info on regular skills they can go to the survivor page easy peasy

[gray dove]

true true, i was thinking of cutting the base skills too

[old summit]

Can we pin this to show people who ask very intently?

[gray dove]

oh yeah its done btw

[distant hazel]

it sounds like half the people who keep trying aren't even on discord

since a few people have joined discord just to go "wait what"

anyone who is trying to play the game blind is already inviting disaster by visiting a wiki anyway

especially so if they're trying to edit a page

[gray dove]

setting up the admin noticeboard/a rules page sometime soon would be nice i think

oh right what color should robomando be? ill add it to the color template, even though he wont be on the wiki until much later we should still set up some stuff for him in advance

horrible gremlin creature

[distant hazel]

a metal color

[gray dove]

silver it is

[distant hazel]

what's wrong with the dash for han-d

[gray dove]

wait what

[distant hazel]

HAN-DX3.png doesn't work

HAN–DX3.png works

[gray dove]

yeah i noticed that too

[distant hazel]

oh I can see it now side by side

[gray dove]

btw how were the images extracted from the game? noticed that engi's missing the "can't use laser turret" icon for ancient scepter

[distant hazel]

I checked the pinned google drive and it wasn't in there when I searched

does it exist?

[orchid sundial]

very nice lovely

good page

[gray dove]

i think so, since there's one for without scepter

thanks btw

[orchid sundial]

X3

x3

:3

[distant hazel]

after I first started using the internet I could never look at Pokemon XD the same

[orchid sundial]

can we have jokes on the wiki or should it remain 100% serious

I really badly want to put in the trivia section for the contact light that despite it being the largest stage, it still cannot contain your mother

[distant hazel]

I would not put that on a wiki

[gray dove]

from personal exprience writing wikis jokes usually open the gates of hell for people to start putting whatever they want in the trivia boxes, but a few well made gags are okay

[distant hazel]

any wiki

[orchid sundial]

ultrakill wiki

[gray dove]

ding ding ding

[orchid sundial]

that was a shithole

[gray dove]

yeah

[orchid sundial]

big ass sprite

[gray dove]

david and goliath

[full quiver]

Hey I'm noticing they wiki is super under-developed. obviously I dont expect it to be completely filled in the games super new, but I've never edited a wiki before and I was wondering what all I should know, or if theres like an "in group" that mainly works on it

[distant hazel]

everyone who has ever edited a wiki page is part of the group

so is anyone typing in here

[gray dove]

yea i literally just got here

[distant hazel]

I've never edited a wiki for more than a few typos either, so I've just been here stumbling along

[grave rose]

niche question, do we have an image for the primary you get when you die in MP and become a drone?

[gray dove]

i made like 80% of a wiki for a single game during quarantine and now its just a thing i do once in a blue moon

[gray dove]

its probably in the pinned google doc, idk tho

[orchid sundial]

I've just been learning how to use wiki.gg here

it's fun

css experience wooo

[gray dove]

wikigg has really similar formatting to fandom so i can probably give a few pointers (fandom bad btw)

[orchid sundial]

I've edited Fandom wiki on source before

outer wilds wiki and ben 10 wiki as an example

I have made the many pages

[gray dove]

ohh cool

[heady tusk]

It's called pdroneskills in the game files, it will be in the google drive

[distant hazel]

is there a way, if a picture is missing, to just not have the red text entirely

so the red text wouldn't appear at all and it would just say "hello I am an editor"

I thiiiiiiiiink I want #iferror

no that seems to not work on pictures

oh I can't read, "this function takes a string"

[gray dove]

yeah use #ifexist

[distant hazel]

🙏

[gray dove]

hmm wait that doesn't seem to be working

does wiki gg support those?

it should hmm

[distant hazel]

yeah

[gray dove]

oh okay cool nvm

[distant hazel]

this one is a jpg so it returns not exist

for files you don't use brackets

[gray dove]

alr awesome

[distant hazel]

mediawiki says #ifexist is expensive and can only be used a certain number of times per page

doesn't say what the limit is

if we run into a problem it might be easy to fix later

[gray dove]

oh it saiys "only a limited number of which can be included on any one page"

so just don't spam a 12000 character long page with #ifexist and we should be fine lol

[granite flax]

i would love this

@ moderators... please

great work everyone, everything ive seen u guys say here today has been great!!

[languid fern]

Can't edit it ATM but as a heads up did get confirmation that scarf uses the same formula for scaling as tougher times in ror2 if anyone wants to put the table in, I can set it up when I'm done working but

[granite flax]

yessss i knew it

[old summit]

I’ll have a list of all the spawns for judgment so for when that page is made

[distant hazel]

can I take the result of a #switch and use it later or do I have to paste the #switch all over again

I'd rather not do that

[granite flax]

wow dried lake is WAY smaller than desolate forest

[gray dove]

can you make a variable? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables
it would look something like this to define a variable with a switch statement then
{{#vardefine:variablename | {{#switch: test | Bar | foo = Foo | baz = Baz }} }}
and then just type {{#var:variablename}} whenever you wanna refer to it

hmm im not sure if its in wikigg

you'll likely have to make a template if its not

[distant hazel]

did someone get damp caverns 1 already

[granite flax]

i have most of the logs but i dont know the log locations because i didnt think to screenshot them

[distant hazel]

#1 was on that ledge up there in this hidden cavern

[granite flax]

alright, dried lake AND desolate forest all variants complete :D

[distant hazel]

a sand crab has 300 health and a cognant version has 840 health

as I was checking this a wisp spawned, blocked my sniper shot, and killed me

frenzied has 660 health

volatile same

leeching same

[distant hazel]

blazing same

and an overloading is 660

[placid salmon]

So all the standard elites have the same hp multiplier

That being, 2.2x

[distant hazel]

ye

I'm not figuring out blighted elites tonight, maybe another day

[shadow tusk]

How long are we waiting to make a ||Robomando|| character page? I know it was decided to wait a bit, because they're a secret and all, but literally every youtuber covering RoR Returns has made a video of them unlocking the character and playing with them. It's not really a secret anymore.

[placid salmon]

I would say just mark it as low priority

There are other pages to make first

[shadow tusk]

I don't see these guys aren't on the wiki yet. Any reason for that? I am very new to working on a wiki and I don't know how to create a new page.

[jade igloo]

im trying to find where exactly the devs acknowledged that overloading enemies are too strong atm, can anyone help?

[stuck saffron]

I think in game they're just a Great Wisp variant, so maybe we should add it on that page?

[stuck saffron]

It's in the known issues in the patch notes

[shadow tusk]

they are, like the young Vagrant, they only appear on the Contact Light

[stuck saffron]

Ah if we have a page for the Vagrant we should have a page for the wisps then

To be consistent

[jade igloo]

ty, hope they tune the damage or tick rate down a bit as well, playing melee survivors is miserable into overloadings, even if you have invuln like miner

[shadow tusk]

yeah. I looked around. Couldn't find them mentioned anywhere currently

[stuck saffron]

To create a page, type the name in the search bar and it should lead you to page creation

[shadow tusk]

I had a 3 player run where we got an Overloading Cremator. Killed all of us.

[old summit]

that one is also a special case

[stuck saffron]

Or add a new line in the enemies page, and click your newly added link to go to page creation (should be red)

[stuck saffron]

Yeah it's rough getting Overloading Imp Overlords on stage 5 with a shrine of the mountain lol

[smoky juniper]

does anyone know who added the “archaic wisp” in the monster section in the enemy page?

are they in this discord?

their alias is “Leaf it”

are the greater wisps spawned by a dead Ancient wisps different from regular greater wisps?

[zinc folio]

For whoever made this page, thanks. Gave me a good laugh

[smoky juniper]

either way, i’m undoing it because it shouldn’t be in the regular monster section, because they don’t spawn normally.

[stuck saffron]

there's a discussion about this right above your message

should we have the Vagrant there then?

[smoky juniper]

oh, the purple wisps

we need a proper verdict on the implementation of enemy variants in the list

[stuck saffron]

yup, either on the original enemy's page, or in the actual enemy list

[smoky juniper]

they only spawn in loops or high scalings and are usually still restricted to a few specific areas

[languid fern]

Asked dev, it's the same formula as tougher times

[smoky juniper]

in other news. all currently listed monsters on the enemy page have descriptions now!!!

some of them weren’t written by me so i’ll fix them up with minor touch ups. thanks to whoever made them

young vagrants are the exception, they don’t have a monster log entry

[stuck saffron]

damn we can just... ask the devs huh

[smoky juniper]

why didn’t we think of that

[languid fern]

I spend long enough trying to work with the assembly that I gave up and just asked yeah

[smoky juniper]

i don’t think they’ll answer everything though

they’re busy and such, or would have their reasons, right?

[languid fern]

Oh yeah absolutely

Which means I should still probably keep working on trying to figure out a good method to extrapolate to every item. Eventually.

[smoky juniper]

sounds torturous. best of luck friend.

[zinc folio]

Good to know!

[agile stream]

I feel like this page isnt supposed to look like this...

Also, how come there no info on cooldown?

[languid fern]

looks right 👍

[agile stream]

Compared to this?
#ror-wiki-discussion message

[stuck saffron]

will be added at some point

[stuck saffron]

we haven't had time to go in depth into each item yet

for now most item pages are just the very basic info

like for the brooch

[agile stream]

understandable. I just assumed there's was a formatting eror.

[stuck saffron]

nah hermit's scarf is the exception here

[languid fern]

I mean I was mostly kidding but yes most items don't have specific things yet, scarf is one of the few items in the game without linear scaling so I'd imagine it's being focused first

Because the ones with linear scaling (ie syringe) you can get by with just the basic text for now

Whereas scarf. Obviously doesn't make u invincible at 10 copies so clarifying that is important even before the actual formula and a table are up

[valid rain]

who is overloading worm

[stuck saffron]

I think someone based themselves off of RoR2 and put overloading worm as a different enemy

wait you're a dev lol

[languid fern]

I'll fix the scarf page in the morning if no one else has but rn I'ma sleep best of luck with the worm problem omg

[stuck saffron]

it's only on one page 🙂

[stuck saffron]

good night

[smoky juniper]

if anyone is bored enough and wants to help me, they can document the behavior of individual lynx tribe enemy variants and list them to me

so i can add them to the Lynx Tribe page behavior section.

[grave rose]

hunters and I think scouts too(?) are the same as lemurians/children, they just chase you and do a melee attack
archers fire projectiles in an arc towards your exact position and sometimes randomly reposition

in A Rung Above and Judgement trials they're a lot easier to find than trying to isolate them from a totem normally, so if you want to see for yourself those are the better places

[smoky juniper]

thank you! i’ll confirm in game myself the exact differences of Hunters and Scouts

[old summit]

Hunters have a lunge attack using the big spear

[smoky juniper]

now if only misc enemies had monster logs so we’d know what their stats are without messing with difficulty scalings and precise damage calculations

[placid salmon]

for the Trials page

[old summit]

Now for the final crown 😝

[smoky juniper]

:o impressive

[placid salmon]

I haven't TOUCHED the final trial yet and I will not for tonight

bedtime for me

[old summit]

Good luck for it!

[smoky juniper]

i wonder if it has a diff sprite if you complete ALL trial skins on each character

[smoky juniper]

good night soldier, well done

[old summit]

Ye judgement goes gold crown not for getting the time but for completing with every character

Not sure if the cursed character counts tho

[void flume]

It does not

[old summit]

Good good

[stuck saffron]

Gold animation is kinda sick though (spoiler in case you wanna see it in game first)

[keen mulch]

Variants could be on the base enemies page, there isn't a lot to fill on those pages as well as they don't have monster logs

[ashen shard]

I saw people getting the gold rank time for judgement but it never turned golden like that

[stuck saffron]

oh is this not used in game? I haven't gotten it myself so I just assumed

[keen mulch]

They did move the log from the infobox to the page itself, what do we prefer?

[void flume]

It's not used for the time listed, but for completing it with all characters. I'm not really sure why the time is listed, actually

Just a goal to reach, I suppose?

[ashen shard]

Sadly is not used, i think?
I hope is not something like getting the gold rank time on every survivor just so the judgement trial can become golden

[stuck saffron]

I kinda like that we can format the log like it is in game when we have it on the page

[keen mulch]

Same

[stuck saffron]

if we go with that I'll do a template so we don't have formatting issues

[void flume]

Gold judgement is again, definitely used.

[ashen shard]

So i have to golden it 2 times to become golden?

[stuck saffron]

I guess, it's a bit weird and not in line with every other trial but heh

[stuck saffron]

you have to finish it with every character

no time constraint

[ashen shard]

Oh, makes alot more sense now

If thats so, i wonder if the judgement robomando skin becomes obtainable when the judgement trial turns golden

[granite flax]

yup, this was the plan :)

[void flume]

Unfortunately I don't think so, I'm 90% sure there's not even an unlock flag for it

[ashen shard]

[granite flax]

shining golem, snow golem, armored boarlit, purple imp, and imp vanguard will all have sections on their "main form"'s page

[void flume]

Probably redirects too, so people stop making pages for it.

[keen mulch]

What about sanctuary guardian, young vagrant, Direseeker, Imp vanguard, gilded wurms?

[stuck saffron]

sanctuary guard and regular boarlit as well then?

[keen mulch]

They don't have monster logs either

[granite flax]

regular boarlit will have its own page

sanctuary guards im fine with being consolidated into temple guard, but i think they should have their own page just due to their usage with You Know What and presence in many trials

vanguard i listed, it will just have a section on overlord's page

[keen mulch]

I'm blind

[granite flax]

young vagrant gets its own page because its not really a variant anymore, and does kind of behave differently

[keen mulch]

I find it weird that most of them don't have monster logs tbh

Tiny imps have

[granite flax]

gilded wurms have their own page OR get put onto provi's page. again, i think a separate page (with both wurms) is best

direseeker can be an elder lemurian section

[granite flax]

the devs HATE boarlits its kind of funny

impossible to encounter an elite boarlit, they have no log, they do not spawn anywhere on their own (except for 1 trial i think), and the new boarlit they added doesnt even have a NAME 😭

[grave rose]

lynx tribe has its own log despite always showing up alongside the totem except for 1 trial

also rorr enemy logs are always 1 big paragraph which isn't the case for ones taken from original ror, kind of a weird detail

[cloud root]

And yet the boars do not

[stuck saffron]

would this be ok then? to replace the infobox?

[keen mulch]

yeah

[stuck saffron]

alright done

[old summit]

does it still work if the item doesnt have a tracking number?

[stuck saffron]

some items don't ?

[old summit]

the toxin doesnt

[stuck saffron]

ah

[old summit]

but that might be the only one

[keen mulch]

Should work, and else we fill in none

[stuck saffron]

it still displays the stars

I'll remove the stars if there's no number

well the tracking number line alltogether

[grave rose]

what's the actual name of this?

[old summit]

i know the sprite has a name lemme check

Goop

theres a sprite called Kill cause Goop

[stuck saffron]

GoodHazardMiddle Left and Right also

"Killed by Goop" - thanks Gwyneth

[tulip badger]

Shrine of mountain only applies to current stage right?

[placid salmon]

yes, unless Prestige

[tulip badger]

Oh wrong channel sorry

[stuck saffron]

yes, except when using the artifact of prestige

[tulip badger]

Thank you

[granite flax]

yeah it does, but not while prestige is active

[old summit]

im upset we dont have the other macrobe

[placid salmon]

Which one

[placid salmon]

Bean

Looks like a hurt sprite

[old summit]

its got all the other sprites as well

that one is the start of the death anim

sMacT

is the name

[granite flax]

macrobic tardigrade!!

[granite flax]

all stun/hurt animations are the first frame of the death animation

[old summit]

oo thats neat

[untold current]

the wiki doesnt show this artifact, if it even is one

does anyone know what it is?

[old summit]

its a shard of the Dissonance artifact

you need 4 to get the full thing

[untold current]

oh, how do you access it?

[stuck saffron]

you can see a path hidden in the wall to the right

[past stratus]

@old summit

[distant hazel]

Archaic Wisp spawns normally in the final stage and I think in Hive Cluster

And I thiiiiink it can be a Kin mob

[stuck saffron]

someone added a "Stacking" column to the items page with values from the RoR1 wiki

[old summit]

and one of the few things on there is already wrong

[distant hazel]

No it linked to Magma Worm’s page anyway

But it’s still not post loop, I’ve been getting them normally with several mountain shrines

[stuck saffron]

it is technically the same boss but elite

[old summit]

ye i fixed another page that had overloading worm as a separate enemy

[distant hazel]

I think you can get it on stage 2 with only 4 mountain shrines

Fun for everyone

[old summit]

volitile overloading worms would be fun if they could be a thing

[distant hazel]

A mod will add blighted worm

[stuck saffron]

I'm gonna upload some images, just to make sure, which one is the Gip and which one is the Geep

smallest is Gip right?

[grave rose]

yes

[stuck saffron]

ty

[orchid sundial]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/User:DoodleEhh do not go to this user page you will shit

@granite flax im assuming you added this and im gonna remove it now because ive tested it and yeah it spawns each run until you collect it

[granite flax]

i did not put that there

but, go for it!

[orchid sundial]

oh right mb

[granite flax]

who

[orchid sundial]

just assumed since im pretty sure you've added those on some pages? (or i just assumed they were you lol)

the brain worm is speaking to me i really wanna do this

so badly

[granite flax]

dont do it

[orchid sundial]

okay boss

[stuck saffron]

god this emote is threatening

[orchid sundial]

gonna make a little site navigation bar

[stuck saffron]

until you read its name

[orchid sundial]

peecock

[stuck saffron]

what do you mean

[orchid sundial]

talked abt it yesterday one of these things

[stuck saffron]

ah ok

well I hope someone can mass edit pages to add this at the bottom lol

[orchid sundial]

im probably just gonna duplicate the one from the ror2 wiki because it did it pretty well

[granite flax]

,,,who was it? ^^;

[orchid sundial]

{{SiteNav}}

[orchid sundial]

cant you just go to the page and check the history

[stuck saffron]

I'm not snitching https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/587652992900136961.gif?size=48&name=commandoshuffle&quality=lossless

[orchid sundial]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/index.php?title=Items&oldid=3462

snitched

looks like im gonna get stitches

[granite flax]

thnak u :) i just wanted to know so i could watch their profile to make sure they dont add any more blatantly incorrect and/or plagiarized info

[orchid sundial]

gummy gremlin KILL THEM!!

[granite flax]

[orchid sundial]

remove ALL contributions IP BAN

track down their home address and DRONE STRIKE

[granite flax]

using my wiki powers to explode their computer with my mind

[stuck saffron]

btw @mag I think you suggested something like this, tried locally and it looks kinda nice

but don't ask me to resize each and every .gif to fit the same way as in game lol

[granite flax]

yess this is what i had wanted originall

[stuck saffron]

if I has CSS powers

I could do it hehehe

[orchid sundial]

yes this looks nice

[granite flax]

i plan to recreate the gifs (i have the assets) to make them all match, but thatll be after i finish doing all the maps

[orchid sundial]

for the providence trials menu i think something similar would look nice

instead of having the list of trials you can just click on each one

as an in game button