ror-wiki-discussion

[tough sand]

i know

it can stack twice

i was expecting tripled

at most

[smoky juniper]

[tough sand]

it can stack twice

[chilly tangle]

All the survivor's multiplayer drones have been made into gifs now :)

[tough sand]

noice

have you seen mercenaries alt upgraded?

it is busted

a

quadruple

jsus

idk

what to say

it's just

[placid salmon]

in RoR2 I believe Weaken is -Armor and -DMG so takes more damage deals less damage

[meager quest]

to take him you need to go on 5th stage in 15-20 minutes, we got on 11

[grizzled pasture]

where?

[chilly tangle]

The gallery sections

[tawdry lichen]

does the hermit scarf still has the 7 item cap?

[smoky juniper]

that’s a little unclear

it would be best to check for sure

[smoky juniper]

goddamn this looks great

[main anchor]

thanks! I left a note on Drifter’s page about that, glad you got around to it

[chilly tangle]

Yeah, I saw that as a fun opportunity

[civic mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cheesed-to-meet-you-gif-21409625

[tough sand]

imagine shattered mirror + ancinet scepter + alt special mercenary

[smoky juniper]

or large amethyst

[tough sand]

or just activating your special twice in a row

fast enough sou can gain 5 seconds of 8x

then 2x on top of that multiplactively

unless mercs is also multiplactive

so min is 16x, max is 32x, depending on if it stacks multiplactively or not

[smoky juniper]

full crit ring cdr build

• that

:DDDd

[tough sand]

does shattered mirro stack?

no i don't think so

just did it

[jovial badger]

yes, embryo is insane

[tough sand]

oh it does stack?

[jovial badger]

yeah

I know you can get 3 at least

I haven't tried out anymore than that

[lost marsh]

is there no enforcer prism?

[smoky juniper]

no

[keen mulch]

Should the pallete really be there in the infobox? these already are in gallery section, with al of them instead of only 4.

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Go_On_Without_Me What is this page about?

[tough sand]

the providence trial

[smoky juniper]

it’s a trial

[tough sand]

also

[smoky juniper]

enforcer, unlocks alt ability 4

[tough sand]

also rq the loader upgrade is kinda cool

[smoky juniper]

which one

[tough sand]

it's the same thing but with like double range

[placid salmon]

I think what could be COOL but also a lot of work, is making edits of the logbook image based on the palettes you can get, and then letting you click between them

[smoky juniper]

alt 4?

[smoky juniper]

these wouldn’t realistically be applicable to the in game sprites though

it would be cool. but impractical

[keen mulch]

I have no idea what you mean

[smoky juniper]

and a lot of work

[placid salmon]

yeh like I said

[void flume]

Was ther any coloration for "Holds up to two"?

[placid salmon]

not worth it at all but would look cool

[tough sand]

yeah blue i think

[smoky juniper]

take this image and click between the recolors at the bottom to change the artificer’s color

[keen mulch]

oh, in the portrait. I mean, if the images are in the game it could be easy

[smoky juniper]

it should be in game sprites imo

[tough sand]

Loader:
S260 Overload Conduit
Place a lighting beacon. Lightning surges to any nearby allies within a large radius, dealing 80% damage per second, and massively increasing attack speed

basically double range

[smoky juniper]

it deals damage

[tough sand]

yeah

always did

the non-upgraded did to

same amount

[smoky juniper]

no actually

non upgrade solely buffs attack speed

[tough sand]

no i'm looking at the singleplayer screen and it says

Place a lightning beacon. Lightning surges to any nearby allies within a radius, dealing 80% damage per second, and massively increasing attack speed.

it says that

the S one is strictly better

everyway i can think of

[smoky juniper]

that’s odd. i did a loader run yesterday and very distinctly remembered a lemurian not getting damaged by the coil on top of it

[tough sand]

funky

may be a bug

[smoky juniper]

it just showed a green circle which connected to me when i was in range

which granted me the attack speed

so yes either a bug or a graphical error

i’d wager it’s originally not supposed to deal damage, and it’s a tooltip misspelling

[tough sand]

maybe

[void flume]

Huh, loader doesn't seem to have the Scepter variants added as placeholder yet.

On the wiki, I mean.

[tough sand]

merc doesn't as well last time i checked

[chilly tangle]

How do you find survivor's speed values?

I've noticed that miner has his, but nobody else does

[void flume]

Should be in the log entries

Ah, they sure aren't

Welp!

Oh, er... I was trying to find the Mercenary ability icons and uh, stumbled on these. Anyone mention these, yet?

[tough sand]

yeah i saw that

don't know what to make of it

[void flume]

No one tell Race, he'll start frothing at the mouth

[tough sand]

Artificer:
Binary Star:
summon two miniature, movement tracking stars, dealing 120% damage over time. Both explode for 2x1000% damage after 5 seconds

[main anchor]

I just operated under the assumption that they didn’t change it from ror1 since the same applies to the other stats

[chilly tangle]

Ah

[tough sand]

the 2 stars are spawned to the left and right of you

[main anchor]

could probably test in multiplayer to get approximations based on other characters at the very least

[chilly tangle]

Do you think it could possible to use those as a reference to find the new characters speeds in ram?

With cheat engine or something

[main anchor]

possibly

[tough sand]

ok i got pilot then i'm done

gotta head off afterward since it is literally 4 am for me

[void flume]

Once I figure out where these dang Scepter ability icons are for Loader and Merc, I'll to adding what you've posted

[tough sand]

alr

[woeful canopy]

when you want to add a line or two to skill notes but don't want to have to get to endgame item counts to check

[keen mulch]

I am adding the log info for Huntress onto her page, does this look good? Tried to copy the in game look as much as possible.

[woeful canopy]

part of my brain is like "just check the wiki and see what it says"
thanks brain

[bitter finch]

Acceptable

[void flume]

Would love a debug tool to just test stuff, like this

[bitter finch]

Damaged
For him

[keen mulch]

tyty

[smoky juniper]

this looks great

[tough sand]

Pilot:
Aeriel Barrage:
Mark an enemy in fron tof you, launching an air strike for 20x120% damage over time.

DONE

finally

that ability just generally sucks ngl

[keen mulch]

Go sleep

[smoky juniper]

it does

kind of disappointing tbh

good job though. go to sleep.

[tough sand]

finally sweet release

[smoky juniper]

[void flume]

Found the icons, now I just gotta snip 'em and upload 'em to the database

[smoky juniper]

i think i’m gonna spend some time updating the enemy descriptions once i get home

i’m wondering what style of writing to use but i think it could be a bit more professional

there’s also random advice mixed in with the physical descriptions of enemies which i think needs cleaning up

[keen mulch]

formal is mostly the way to go, but I'm not great at that. But that might because of my knowledge of English. I have done that, but only because I didn't know where to put it and having that info there, even in the wrong section, might be useful as someones else can just move it to the correct section instead of adding it themselves. Most people are more inclined to edit things that already exist. That's also the reason I created enemy pages with little to no info filled in, people are more inclined to add missing info to an existing page.

WALL

[smoky juniper]

noted. i’ll update this chat accordingly when i get to it

i’m mostly focused on text based edits anyway, since i don’t know coding or wiki formatting too well

[keen mulch]

I have just been copying from already existing pages, follow what is already established.

[smoky juniper]

i try to follow a formula for informative descriptions, and otherwise do my best to remain objective with stuff like enemy specific advice

[void flume]

Apparently HAN-D had no ability images uploaded at all, so I've also trimmed those. Time to upload everything.

@granite flax I've noticed HAN-D's page uses {{pagename}}X1.png for its ability tables, and other characters use their normal title, like EngineerX1.png. Is the former or latter standard practice? Curious to know while I'm making sweeping changes adding Scepter abilities.

[granite flax]

caps at 3 or 4 now, i think, but thats unconfirmed and based on a single test

might just be a multiplicative stacking instead of additive

[tawdry lichen]

I see

ty

[granite flax]

using {{pagename}} just means you can copy and paste more easily, but beyond that you can choose. i use character names for clarity and future ease of access

[granite flax]

no cook?

[main anchor]

they didn’t let him cook

[keen mulch]

person gotta sleep

[granite flax]

upgraded cook becomes:
BUFFET
RAPIDLY PREPARE MEAL OUT OF CUSTOMERS FOR 12x80% DAMAGE. SLAIN CUSTOMERS BECOME TASTY TEMPORARY MEAL ITEMS. CANNOT CRIT.

doubles its damage, wow

wonder if the items are affected at all

[main anchor]

I mean isn’t that like half of the Scepter abilities to begin with

Huntress’ bomb arrow drops 2x bombs, wow

[granite flax]

maybe! i cant say ive seen a lot of them in recent times

no my wow was genuine

twice as much damage on COOK seems great

[main anchor]

seems more QoL than anything tbh

[void flume]

me literally guessing colors because I still don't have the ability unlocked

[main anchor]

guessing colors is a fool’s errand tbh

[void flume]

just realized none of han-d's abilities are survivor colored, either

will fix that while I'm here

[main anchor]

neither he nor Chef have a color atm

[void flume]

Better than plaintext, imo

[void flume]

Ah, I see

[main anchor]

“stunning all enemies” highlighted in one but not the other

unfortunate inconsistency in tooltips

[void flume]

Conveniently almost nothing about HAN-D was written up in specials, so I can guess consistently

[main anchor]

[void flume]

(but if anyone has DISASSEMBLE unlocked, please post a screenshot)

[main anchor]

> implying anyone plays HAN-D

[keen mulch]

How do I get survivor logs? Win a game with them?

[void flume]

yup

[keen mulch]

monster logs is just random? There are enemies I have been farming for it and they just won't drop it.

[main anchor]

yeah those are just random

[granite flax]

ive got all the non-boss logs bar elder lemurian

and i think im only missing 3 bosses

[keen mulch]

spitter and that tree thing just don't want to drop

[void flume]

now has images and (almost) full ability descriptions

Still missing DRONE - BLAST description, though

Oh wait I'm silly, it's literally in the discord search window I have open

[granite flax]

all skills and descriptions are in the lang file in plaintext!

very useful resource for wiki-ers

[void flume]

I sure wish I knew that before hand-writing every detail about HAN-D!

Where can I find that, and does it also include colors?

[lucid solar]

of this you mean?

[void flume]

Yes, much obliged

My guesses were completely wrong

[keen mulch]

So I just learned that you can look around the image of the environment logs, make it easy to take screenshots of artifact locations

[lucid solar]

my most played is actually han-d

[keen mulch]

Like so

[main anchor]

couldn’t be me, I need my permanent invuln on my melee character

[void flume]

I do still need to somewhat guess DISMANTLE, but I got a lot of the idea now

[main anchor]

(speaking of, is the Miner infinite actually intended?)

seems a little cheap to have near-infinite invulnerability while dealing damage

[granite flax]

steamapps/common/risk of rain returns/language/english/lang.json

and yes it includes colors

you can also navigate to the file browser via steam

right click rorr -> manage -> browse local files

[main anchor]

actually this would be great to include as a tips/tricks thing whenever I get around to that for Miner

being able to just sit directly on top of Providence and wail on him for like 30 seconds straight completely immune is pretty funny

[keen mulch]

Is this macrobic predator?

[void flume]

Going to write this up for future reference when pulling from the lang file, in case it's useful for anyone besides myself.
Color references when converting the Lang File to Wiki Text, for general context in Abilities -
<y> = color|d| - Damage, Attack Speed, Projectiles, Movement Directions, Debuffs
<b> = color|extra| - Resources, Ability Invulnerability, Movement Effects
<g> = color|h| - Healing, Duration Invulnerability
</c> = Format end, resets colors to default until used again
\n = <p> - Line break in an Ability

[floral meteor]

how?

[keen mulch]

Should pin this

[void flume]

It is, yes

[main anchor]

Drill Charge gives invuln for long enough that you can tap it to use a tiny amount of heat while giving yourself the invuln, which lasts long enough to get one swing of Crush in before tapping Drill Charge again

rinse and repeat and you’ll be entirely invulnerable while regenerating your lost heat because you’re using Crush between skill uses

you can keep invuln for super long on a single target or literally infinitely against a group

[keen mulch]

I think I have uploaded all enemy portraits that were missing, meaning that any enemies still missing it don't have it afaik

They aren't in the monsters log, so I don't see why they would have them.

Artifact of honor says it can only be found in classic ruleset but I have only played modern and I have found it

[main anchor]

yeah same here

[keen mulch]

why would it even be different between rulesets?

[main anchor]

[void flume]

I think it's supposed to mean it can be found if you have Classic selected despite it's missing content, unlike things that are labeled Modern.

It is pretty confusing though, and could probably do with a rewrite.

[main anchor]

yeah probably

[granite flax]

it should say "any ruleset" to avoid confusion

[eager badger]

how many of this would i need for very low cooldown on equipment (like 5 second)

captains brooch

[void flume]

I just realized, we don't actually have... Any survivor page, showing ability cooldowns.

[smoky juniper]

done did lemurian description :D

would love feedback or pointers

[void flume]

Everything looks good to me, though this peeked out to me
Lemurians can also use their bite attack while climbing, being the only enemy aside from the Child to be able to do so. I believe Clay Men can also attack while climbing.

[smoky juniper]

oh, true, I'll fix that

I'm planning to make that a distinction between all three creatures, each linking to each other's page

unless that's unnecessary. lmk.

[void flume]

I think it's fine, I never liked RoR2 Wikia's style of "If it's linked earlier in the article, it's too redundant" anyway

...Not that Child or Clay man are linked earlier in the Lemurian page anyway, I suppose. But still, direct mentions of other enemies are fine to be linked to

[smoky juniper]

imo it never hurts to link articles together if there's a good reason for it

[void flume]

Aye, it's just convenient

[smoky juniper]

noted.

[granite flax]

all climbing enemies can attack while climbing, only the player cant

[smoky juniper]

I feel like there's a way to concisely describe that across all climbing enemies

[void flume]

Searching through the Lang file, the Recall ability actually has its own description. How does this look, for including it?

[void flume]

Lemurians are one of 3 enemies capable of Climbing and Attacking on ropes, the other two being Child and Clay Man.

[smoky juniper]

perfect. thank you.

[real schooner]

Has anyone gotten the Sniper log yet? Asking because I can't be fucked doing another run and the wiki don't have it yet.

[granite flax]

are you after the text or the art>

[void flume]

Art is already on the wiki, so probably the text

[real schooner]

Text, yes.

[granite flax]

||Passenger Details:
[Military Class]

Luggage & Equipment:
Soldier boarded with a standard military reconnaissance personnel uniform, a 2050-0 sniper rifle and a traditional surveillance drone. The rifle and drone were cleared by the military checkpoint ahead of boarding, though the passenger opted to keep the drone with their carry-on luggage. Passenger and military associates insisted that the rifle stay with their own personnel, but allowed the rifle to be unloaded before boarding, with rounds stored in an automated lockbox. The soldier's personal affects included energy cells, canned goods, and a package of cooling gel sheets.

[SECURITY RECALL]
[Note S1a] Contact Light personnel has been instructed by the Deimos military to not mention the conflict occuring currently in the Boron system.
[Note S1b] Contact Light personnel has been instructed by the Deimos military to delete records of additional hardware loaded alongside their soldier.||

[real schooner]

Danka

[granite flax]

oh and this stuff oops
||Travel ID: 142525544524553545341445
Departure:
Military Base,
Northern Side,
Deimos

Destination:
Fort Reason,
Belt Num.1053,
[REDACTED]
Boron System||

no prob!

[smoky juniper]

also, is this necessary for enemy pages? it feels empty without it

[granite flax]

go ahead and remove stub warning imo

[smoky juniper]

sure

[granite flax]

we can add them in the future, but while we're still in the setting up phase, everything will be a stub

[void flume]

Oh yeah, speaking of warnings, the Spoiler warning could do with a bit more clarification. Even though it's not used, I think.

[smoky juniper]

oh I was referring to the "[ _ _ ] are monsters and enemies in Risk of Rain Returns." part

the main heading? whatever you wanna call it

[void flume]

I believe it's useful for search engines

To be more specific, ones outside of the wiki itself, like google

[smoky juniper]

true true. ill add them eventually to all pages that don't have them

[void flume]

[void flume]

Here's how that looks, by the way.

Picture is aces, but I think the text could do with some elaboration on what exactly could be being spoiled.

[smoky juniper]

O д O

[smoky juniper]

should depend on page-by-page basis. story, gameplay spoilers, etc.

[void flume]

At least in its current state, it's not really modular like that

[granite flax]

"This page contains major spoilers for either story beats or secrets within the game. Tread with caution!"

[pure river]

wiki friends do we have a list of the rewards after each wave in the judgement trial?

[smoky juniper]

not yet.

[pure river]

I can make one then, I'm grinding it out

[granite flax]

judgement trial is currently undocumented on the wiki because im the only one whos done the providence trial page and i havent unlocked it yet XD

[smoky juniper]

at least not in a complete manner

individual trials don't have their own pages yet

[pure river]

I see

[smoky juniper]

we just have https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Providence_Trials which is basically a list

[granite flax]

feel free to make one for the judgement trial, though!

each trial will have its own page eventually

[smoky juniper]

I'd be willing to contribute to them if some of the trials weren't so hard

[granite flax]

LOL, yeah

[pure river]

Yeah I'll just document it as I go, I have a boss order list already but I'm going to make a nice complete thing

[granite flax]

im stuck on ruins 2 the future and assassination contract atm

[granite flax]

sounds awesome! :]

[bitter finch]

Where can i find the artifact of kin?

[void flume]

whoop

[granite flax]

kill

[granite flax]

far right of dried lake!

[void flume]

I think only you can do that

[granite flax]

i did it

@devout cloak hey! we're not putting robomando on the wiki for now, sorry

[devout cloak]

sorry!

[smoky juniper]

I discovered a formatting oopsie. imo.

[granite flax]

no worries ^-^

[smoky juniper]

currently enemy infoboxes are ordered by hp/speed/attack

when it probably should be hp/attack/speed, to parallel the logbook entries

[granite flax]

your edits have been great so far btw

[smoky juniper]

so the parameters for that order are "1 3 2"

(this is the correct order)

as opposed to this

which is hp/speed/attack instead

[woeful canopy]

This article contain a risk of:

• Rain
• Spoilers

[smoky juniper]

so either swap the numerical value for the parameters of speed and attack or just let it be as it is. ugly as it may be.

if we do the former then you'd have to edit all the values retroactively afterwards.

so I just want to know what to do in advance

[smoky juniper]

thanks!

[granite flax]

i mean we can just change the infobox template order

[smoky juniper]

yeah, that

I'm not good with formatting, sorry

[granite flax]

then it will be fixed for everything without needing to do any more edits

no worries!

this is my first time XD i am learning just for this

[smoky juniper]

I'll just leave it be for now then

[granite flax]

ill go fix it rq :]

[smoky juniper]

thanks!

[granite flax]

should be fixed now

wait is it saying hp/damage/damage for you

[smoky juniper]

one moment

hp/damage/speed yes

ill re-edit the parameter values now. its only 2 pages anyway

[granite flax]

wait the parameters shouldnt need changing

theyre already in the right places

[smoky juniper]

I viewed the lemurian page (which I changed) but this is the sand crab page for example

and if I do here what I did before, swap parameters 3 and 2, it displays correctly

[granite flax]

ah, that means their original values were in the wrong spots, then

[smoky juniper]

I'll just leave it to you, and tell me what needs reverting if needed

[granite flax]

yep, ok!

[void flume]

Double-checking all the Scepter sections on the survivors to see if there's any more for me to do, and saw Bandit's is like this.
I get the idea of differentiating the Scepter abilities, but this seems a bit aggressive on the eyes. Should I tone it down and forward this to other Survivors, or remove the coloration entirely?

For comparison, HAN-D

[granite flax]

i dont think its necessary given it has clarification already, but a toned-down addition might be nice?

[void flume]

On it

Also just realized I typed "TEAR COMBATANTS APART FOR" twice in the Dismantle section

[smoky juniper]

TEAR COMBATANTS APART TEAR COMBATANTS APART TEAR COMBATANTS APART

[void flume]

I'll patch that up when I pass by it giving it coloration

[woeful canopy]

Stick a sceptre icon somewhere on the sceptre abilities?

[granite flax]

i mean it says at the bottom "replaces X when holding Ancient Scepter"

[woeful canopy]

yeah might be a bit redundant

[void flume]

How's this?

[granite flax]

probably a little subtler still

[smoky juniper]

is there in-game code indicating whether or not enemies are able to be stunned or knocked back?

[spark cloud]

i was thinking something closer to #1c1016

red version of the not-quite-blue bg everywhere else

[spark cloud]

nice

[void flume]

Seems barely noticeable, though

[spark cloud]

it doesn't need to be very noticeable i think

You have the red skill icons and the "replaces x when holding ancient scepter" already

[smoky juniper]

also, is there a fixed value for how many greater wisps pop out of the ancient wisp when it dies

or is it based on elite versions, difficulty etc.

[void flume]

Feels like always 2, though I think there may also be lesser wisps

[smoky juniper]

I think it's always been greater wisps, as it was in ror1

[void flume]

Elite Bosses are going to need their own whole sections on their pages, because they do some funky stuff

[smoky juniper]

frenzied variants, right?

[void flume]

All of them, but not for every boss

I believe some cannot be certain types, depending on the boss

[smoky juniper]

it's beyond me right now either way x3

also, this feels like a stretch

[spark cloud]

they are basically the same thing but i feel like i've seen that mask in yet more places than just RW

[smoky juniper]

vulture masks have completely circular eye holes while greater wisps are slightly slanted down

[spark cloud]

like, hollow knight kinda thing

[smoky juniper]

yeah, it's too general to be a specific reference

and greater wisps have existed in ror1 before RW

[woeful canopy]

No-one other than huntress (and now engineer, copied from huntress formatting) have the survivor logs. Is the formatting used on huntress fine to copy to the other survivors?

[void flume]

Generally most of them, due to them all having similarly formatted logs

I think exceptions are Acrid and Chef?

[smoky juniper]

where can I view all enemy names in the game files

I want to make that a standardized trivia section for all entities

so the trivia isn't empty for enemies that have none

[woeful canopy]

similar enough to do basically the same thing

(acrid + chef)

[woeful canopy]

language -> english -> lang.json

[smoky juniper]

thanks!

on second thought, maybe I won't. these are just the same display names

ok wait no

I took inspiration from this, but forgot that it was the sprite file name

so uh. where can I view that :3

[ember light]

one of the masks on the blood shrine does look shockingly similar

[smoky juniper]

I feel like they're all just the same type of skull used as sprites in game

[ember light]

but yeah I doubt this is intentional

[smoky juniper]

yup. just similar designs

they're both stylized in a similar manner

[granite flax]

standardized trivia loses the essence of trivia, imo

trivia between enemies wont be balanced because trivia is trivial and normally unintended or inconsequential

[smoky juniper]

yup yup i've come to that conclusion

just continuing to go down the list and editing all the descriptions and behaviors of enemies

also, do we have any policies on external links? just in case

[pastel carbon]

holy shit I hate this desc

[smoky juniper]

lmao

ill touch up all enemy pages eventually

[pastel carbon]

1. Commando is not 5'9, he has no confirmed height
2. Comparing size using sprites is silly because they're not meant to be "lore accurate"
3. Why are they so speculative about bighorns being carnivorous? They were literally referred to as being apex predators in their ror2 log
4. Technically, bighorn bison aren't from Saturn, they're from a fictional moon of Saturn called rademia

[pastel carbon]

well, they aren't referred to as apex predators per se, they're actually referred to as "key predators"

also, the 3 balls on their face aren't eyes

they're referred to as "strange, metallic growths" in the ror2 log

[smoky juniper]

this isn't ror2 though

[pastel carbon]

it's the same creature across both games

[smoky juniper]

these clearly look like eyes

not very metallic looking

it'

[pastel carbon]

well they aren't eyes

[smoky juniper]

s the same texture as sand crab eyes

[pastel carbon]

look metallic here

fucking hell

I love .webp!

[smoky juniper]

yeah, it's inconsistent

[pastel carbon]

who knows, maybe the metallic growths also function as eyes

the concept of inorganic materials used for visual organs isn't unprecedented

see the chitton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiton

[woeful canopy]

yea or nay?

[distant hazel]

We’re removing it

[woeful canopy]

rip

[distant hazel]

I started the color thing in the first place, and then someone else did red text and I like that more

I just never changed bandit cuz I forgot

[void flume]

We are? Because I've gone down to Sniper making it Character text with the subtle background

[distant hazel]

I just woke up

Lemme sniper

[void flume]

When I mean I've gone down to sniper adding the stuff, I mean this

[distant hazel]

I don’t even notice it

Ok if I flashbang myself with my phone screen then I notice it

[pure river]

do I just paste it here

[distant hazel]

Yeah I guess there’s no harm in doing that

The problem with full red was just some survivors text color blending into it

But this is good

[pure river]

it's a pretty hefty list, I just want an OK before putting a wall of text

[granite flax]

go 4 it!

[pure river]

WAVE 1 - Vs Stone Golem

Items : [Giant Amethyst - Ancient Sceptre - The Hit List - Guardian's Heart - Ukulele]

Wave 2 - Vs Magma Worm

Items : [Ancient Sceptre - Alien Head - Hardlight Afterburner] , [Hoopoo Feather - Guardian's Heart - Tough Times] , [Gasoline - Hoof - Barbed Wire] , [Boxing Gloves, Prison Shackles, Energy Cell]

Wave 3 - Vs Lynx Totem

Items : [Backup Magazine - Energy Cell - Hoof] , [Stopwatch - Giant Amethyst - Sawmerang], [Lens maker's glasses - Rusty Knife - Sticky Bomb], [Golden Gun, Beating Embryo, Rapid Mitosis]

Wave 4 - Vs

Items : [Frost Relic - Rusty Knife - Soldier's Syringe], [Imp Overlord's Tentacle, Scorching Shell Piece, Ifrit's Horn], [Lens Maker's Glasses, Backup Magazine - Barbed Wire], [Ukulele, Hoopoo Feather, Timekeeper's Secret]

Wave 5 - Vs Ancient Wisp

Items : [Energy Cell - Soldier's Syringe - Lens maker's glasses], [Hoopoo Feather, Ukulele, Frost Relic], [Rusty Knife, Atg Mk1, Crowbar], [Hoof, Crowbar, Predatory Instincts]

Wave 6 - Vs Ijfrit (Prolly the hardest since there's no platforms) (Very skippable)

Items : [Repulsion Armor - Permafrost - Old Box] , [Toxic Centipede - Guardians's Heart - Captain's Brooch] , [Spikestrip, Panic Mines, Fire Shield] , [Crowbar, Rusty Knife, Soldier's Syringe]

Wave 7 - Vs Wandering Vagrant (You can no longer skip waves after this one) (Skipping waves brings you to this one immediately)

Items : [Crowbar - Will o' the wisp - Smart shopper] - [Mortar tube - Taser - Concussion granade] - [Predatory Instincts, Golden Gun, Energy Cell] - [Sticky bomb, Barbed Wire, The Toxin]

Wave 8 - Vs Cremator

Items: [Brilliant Behemoth - Bungus - Unstable Tesla Coil] - [Tough Times, Guardian Heart, Topaz Brooch] - [Repulsion Armor - Rapid Mitosis - Alien Head] - [Ukulele - Atg Mk1 - Predatory Instincts]

Wave 9 - Vs Toxic Beast

Items: [Hoopoo Feather - Will O' The Wisp - Frost Relic] - [Fireman's Boots - Monster tooth - Harvester's Scythe] - [Soldier's Syringe - Rusty Knife - Sticky Bomb] - [Mortar Tube - Boxing Gloves - Barbed Wire]

Wave 10 - Vs Imp Overlord

Items: [Lens Maker's Glasses, The Toxin, Guardian's Heart] - [Timekeeper's secret - hoof - Harvester's Scythe] - [HyperThreader, Wicked Ring, Ceremonial Knives] - [Hermit's Scarf - Taser - Topaz Brooch]

Wave 11 - Vs Providence

[distant hazel]

I’m very sure Desolate Forest #4 is new

[void flume]

Every character now has Scepter information and subtle backgrounds

[woeful canopy]

I added a bunch of skill notes to engi

well, 4

I like laser turret ok

[smoky juniper]

AAAA someone edited the greater wisp page when I was submitting my edit and it didn't go through

[woeful canopy]

Engi survivor log

[inland junco]

Oh my god dude that looks sick

[void flume]

There could probably be use for this in Item logs, too!

[woeful canopy]

cool i'll go do the others
i got bumped from my flight -.-

[void flume]

Welp, all the more time to wiki edit, I suppose!

[spark cloud]

oh my god engineer's log is amazing

[ashen shard]

||does anyone know if this providence themed skin (red and blue just like the other ones for the different survivors) is obtainable for robomando in the "Judgement" trial ?||

[void flume]

It is not

[ashen shard]

sad

[keen mulch]

noice

[young flume]

Wow, how did you make thetable look like that?

[granite flax]

YESSSS ur killin it!!!!

[young flume]

Could we use that for the item logs and other pages?

[young flume]

Is it in the files?

[woeful canopy]

<div class="mw-code">

content

</div>
multi-line code block

[woeful canopy]

remove the class, and it (should) apply no formatting at all. Annoyingly, I'm not sure how to give it horizontal margin only, so all the departures have a few extra spaces at the end...

== Survivor Log ==

<div class="mw-code">

{
{{color
-
|
Departure Address
||
Destination Address
}

  {{color|untiered|Travel ID: }}<br>
{{color|log3|Passenger Details:}}
{{color|d|[Civilian Class]}}<br>

{{color|log3|Luggage & Equipment:}}
<br>

{{color|extra|[SECURITY RECALL]}}
{{color|log3|[Event G1]}}
{{color|log3|[Event G2]}}
</div>

lost a few | in there (now fixed)

can someone send me a screenshot of acrid's log in-game?

[ashen shard]

yeah, someone showed it to me

[woeful canopy]

ty

[hexed viper]

how do you find the base speed value of a survivor?

[keen mulch]

Good screenshot for this log?

[granite flax]

not really

try getting more of the surrounding area

[keen mulch]

I might also just take the screenshot from the log itself, and we could add the log sprite on that?

[granite flax]

ideally we'll have full views from each variant available on the stage pages

its just kind of a hassle to grab pics cuz of the parralax

[tame current]

is this correct? I wasn't able to find a way to play the tutorial as other characters

[patent swallow]

I think you just need to have the character unlocked to see the prism.

[woeful canopy]

nearly done 😮‍💨

[lapis gate]

I think se should add hints for the ||secret survivor||

Like the ones for the artifact commands on the ror2 wiki

[tame current]

huh yeah it's pretty hidden tho

[young flume]

I was checking and making some item pages

And some of them are missing an Item image in the page itself, if anyone coul help me putting the .png, that would be awesome, give a second and Ill list the items in a sec

[tame current]

are there any other major secrets besides|| secret survivor|| and|| prisms||?

[patent swallow]

where'd you find it?

[quasi pond]

wait what, is there a way to play tutorial after declining it

[tame current]

||go to the left and climb down a hidden vine, then walk to the right||

[young flume]

here

That's all the ||prisms|| found as of now. || (And the one that's supposedly in boar beach.)||

[tame current]

do these need to be obtained with a specific character or not?

[young flume]

Nope

You just need to have the character unlocke

unlocked*

[tame current]

also is there a way to see what variant you are on?

[young flume]

Nope

You just have to recognize them :/ sadly

[tame current]

fun

btw is there a server feedback channel? I think this server could use a rorr-questions channel cause the main one is kinda flooded

[woeful canopy]

All the survivor logs should be up now, lmk if something doesn't look quite right

[tame current]

recycling drones for drifter means like buy drones, having them break then fixing them right?

[woeful canopy]

no, there's an interactable that lets you sacrifice a drone to get an item

[tame current]

huh, I never even found that

[inland junco]

Hey what was the spaceship's name?

The one that crashlands

[tame current]

UES Contact Light

[inland junco]

ah tank you

[tame current]

the ror2 one which goes to rescue it is the UES Safe Travels

[quasi pond]

how do you fall out of bounds on the artificer one? im on var 3., but i can't seem to fall out by the skeleton in the top left

[young flume]

How I did it:

1. Grab loader
2. Artifact of command and good luck with the variant and the items (Hoopo feather, photon jetpack and alien head for the grappling gaunlet.)
3. get into the top left with the dead fisherman and then grapple to the very top, drop down going left then hug the right wall, be fast and get back to the map as soon as possible

[distant hazel]

We could add the secret collectibles and just not say what they’re for

[young flume]

After that is walking through the dark

[distant hazel]

Point out the jar, the chest, the other chest, etc

[quasi pond]

ohhh the VERY top

gotcha

[tame current]

can artifacts be unlocked in drizzle now?

[iron berry]

yes

how do you get the secret charecter

[young flume]

Put a spoiler on that please. Also, check #theorycrafting

[iron berry]

ok

how do you put spoilers

[young flume]

Select the message and put the eye icon

[iron berry]

i dont get that

close enough?

[young flume]

yeh

Better

[iron berry]

ok (:

[quasi pond]

it keeps instantly teleporting me back as soon as i start falling low enough?

[tame current]

you can surround the part you want to mark as spoiler with ||

[woeful canopy]

Item log template?

not sure what colors to use for priority - the saturated ones are better at conveying the rarity, but eyes hurty

[young flume]

You deserve a "Wiki godlike being" award

[young flume]

Hug. the. right. wall.

You have to be fast, and as soon as you start falling out of bounds, try to get back in

It took me 30 min, so is ok if you don't get it at first

[quasi pond]

do you get back in at the same location you got out?

or fall down to that little hole i see at the bottom

[young flume]

Fall down atthe little hole

[quasi pond]

and this is the LEFT side of the stage?

[young flume]

Yep

[quasi pond]

i can see my pixels on the left of my screen when i go out of bounds falling but i still get teleported in 😠

[young flume]

This side of the map, as soon as you start falling, hug the right wall

[quasi pond]

yes im there

im using pilot to get on the bounce pad, use parachute to get over

but its still teleporting me

[tame current]

you could probably make a script that automatically makes that from the language files

[woeful canopy]

definitely

[tame current]

also I was looking at the items page... what are the lists sorted by?

[quasi pond]

finally got it down, whats the actual route to get to the prism? there is the first big chamber, the pit, and then a second smaller chamber

[young flume]

I don't remember exactly sadly, you would have to stumble in the dark for a while

[tame current]

that would also take colors into consideration

[woeful canopy]

it's already marked

in the .json

[tame current]

I kinda want to try that but python is the ideal language here and I hate that thing

[woeful canopy]

lol

[pure charm]

Ive got a question for yall about the Cremator (big lemurian) on magma barracks. It doesnt seem to be respawning after I killed it once is that because im on the wrong stage variant or is there something I need to do that Im not doing

[woeful canopy]

I say that, some are and some aren't, so I guess it wouldn't work that well

[quasi pond]

finally did it, thank you!

[tame current]

can you send me the template you made?... I still want to give it a shot and fail at it lol

I may have found a half decent way to do it but it involves java lol

[zealous briar]

is there a way to spot the 'secret passages"? for the life of me i feel like i'm missing something

[granite flax]

logbook order!

[tame current]

ah makes sense

[woeful canopy]

usually there's some markings in the terrain that outline something vaguely passage shaped, or there's a log sitting in an enclosed space

things like that

[zealous briar]

Thanks, sounds like I just need to see a few and will probably start to click

[woeful canopy]

On stage one, look for blue roots under trees - they'll have a rope going down into the ground

There's two places that I know of that require some kind of big aoe damage to open up

If a place has interactive stuff in it like ropes or chests or a drone, you can probably get there

[keen mulch]

hidden corridors often are just black instead of having textures, and often lead to flat surfaces you can walk on or something like vines to climb.

[inland junco]

ok knowing html is like having superpowers when you're a wiki editor

[keen mulch]

Finally got trokk log

Not that that matters now I know of the lang file. I had been typing them over manually until now

[distant hazel]

look at the shard, closer, even closelier

there are textures in the wall that make out a path

[tame current]

wait why are there eclipse difficulty sprites in the files?

[distant hazel]

post some examples

[tame current]

bruh 8 files is too much?

[distant hazel]

[tame current]

there's also a mystery difficulty

[inland junco]

scrapped content moment

or maybe not

[tame current]

there's full sprites for big, small, selected and unselected options+

ngl I was hoping we'd get typhoon

mystery is probably place holder art but all those eclipse sprites are suspicious

[inland junco]

can admins make it so we can upload font files to the site

I'd like to make log entries appear in the in-game font

[keen mulch]

I think they need to request fonts to be added by gg staff, and I have no idea how that works with licensing

[inland junco]

damn

[keen mulch]

I created pages for all the remaining stages, but most of them only have the infobox and log info filled in

Someone was hungry

[real drum]

Gup gaming

[keen mulch]

I expected it would a bit bigger...

[inland junco]

wikitext is not collaborating with me here

can't seem to set a background image via css for some reason

ok apparently the url() inline doesn't work in mediawiki

[keen mulch]

I have all the other images for biomes that are used in the environment log. I would have liked a bigger image but there are none of those in the gamefiles afaik.

I have thought about zooming in when opened in paint.net and making a screenshot to get a bigger image but that seems bad

[ashen shard]

the mystery difficulty shows up when you go and search for multiplayer lobbies
i guess that mystery difficulty means that the host turned on "rule voting" (or maybe there is another reason for the mystery ?)

[keen mulch]

Those have no players so maybe it isn't set yet?

Or it's hidden

but why show up if that is the case

[ashen shard]

idk, all i know is that the icon is used in game

[inland junco]

should I make a template for field notes that looks like this?

[tame current]

Ah nice... Now time to find out how to access eclipse

[ashen shard]

gl finding that out

[young flume]

Are we going to cite the original sprites in every single survivor page?

[keen mulch]

Looks good

[granite flax]

maybe in the trivia sections for pilot and drifter, and for all the rorr enemies which got demakes

[young parrot]

@smoky juniper i noticed you were criticizing some of the articles i wrote earlier (namely the bighorn bison one) and is there any advice you could give me on how to write them better bc this is my first time editing a wiki and i really enjoy it

[smoky juniper]

I'm rewriting all of the enemy articles one by one, with their descriptions and behaviors included.

[young parrot]

i was doing that earlier but i wanna get better so any advice

[inland junco]

I wanted the log entries to have the game's starry background but wikitext doesn't allow the url() element apparently smh

[young parrot]

like i wrote all of the behaviour and appearance descriptions from lemurian to bson

[smoky juniper]

try to stick to a formula and don't deviate from the source material. present objective facts in a clear and concise manner. be formal and avoid far fetched sentences that feel out of place

[young parrot]

thanks for the advice ill edit out the bison thing

how big is bighorn bison exactly anyway

[smoky juniper]

I'll get to it eventually, but you can clear stuff up if you want to

[young parrot]

like ten meters

[smoky juniper]

unless theres a written factual value, dont list the size

[young parrot]

alright

ok i totally changed it

[inland junco]

I think it's ok to indulge in a little story-telling in the description

since you're describing what they are in the lore

[smoky juniper]

it is, just don't deviate from the log entries

[keen mulch]

Except, we don't write the lore.

[inland junco]

ik lol

[young parrot]

guys im going to make individual pages for each ability so they can be tagged in other pages

if thats ok

[inland junco]

I feel like it'd be more convenient for the ability hyperlinks to just lead to the character's page

since otherwise you'll be creating a LOT of pages that won't get used much

[young parrot]

yeah youre right but im new to wiki so i have like no clue how to do that

[inland junco]

oh just do [[Ability name | name of page it'll lead to]]

[inland junco]

if you're new I'd recommend taking a brief look at the documentation https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents

it helps a lot

[young parrot]

ty

[smoky juniper]

can someone help me figure out what the hell spitters are

even the higher resolution sprite and logbook picture that rorr provides isn't telling me much

[inland junco]

just call them fauna and be done with it

[smoky juniper]

that's not gonna cut it

[young parrot]

i added an article on them just now you can check it out

[smoky juniper]

right now I've got them pegged as artificially created creatures made to dispose of toxic waste, inferring from the logbook entries alone

[young parrot]

no i dont think so
cus theyre kinda similar to hermit crabs from two

maybe its like a mechanism to partially digest their prey

b efore they eat it

i dont think they are artificial

[shadow tusk]

not sure where to put this but figured the wiki creators would want to know; ||When unlocking Robomando, as long as you get the Strange Battery in a Rainstorm/Monsoon run, and hit the 3rd teleporter at 22:00, you can unlock the character. I died stage 1 after getting the Strange Battery to the equipment chest. I then played another run, and still found the battery on stage 2, and was able to unlock the character. Maybe this was already known, idk, but just in case.||

[keen mulch]

weird salamanders?

[smoky juniper]

they don’t look reptilian

[young parrot]

they might be amphibians

[smoky juniper]

or mammalian, or aquatic or anything really

[young parrot]

they seem amphibious

[smoky juniper]

there’s nothing to suggest they’re amphibious

[young parrot]

it is curious that they are cartiligenous

maybe theyre like a petrichior V type species thats not any of those

[smoky juniper]

they wouldn’t walk upright if they were

[young parrot]

yeah good point

[keen mulch]

neither do lizards, but lemurians clearly are lizardpeople

[young parrot]

havent you heard of the basilisk lizard

[smoky juniper]

i still think they’re purposely made scavengers. the comparison for their spit to picric acid in their log entry is especially making me think so

“precocious appearance” as well

[keen mulch]

Not really the same

[young parrot]

but what would they have to recycle if the only beings were providence and mithrix
maybe they feed on detritus?

like banana slugs?

[smoky juniper]

whatever it was, they needed super strong insides to process it

which then doubled as a defense mechanism

[young parrot]

i suppose so but why would providence make those

he must have gotten them from another planet

[smoky juniper]

maybe they’re alien refugees! like a fucked up version of noah’s arc!

[young parrot]

are you mocking me

[inland junco]

would you guys say this description is any good

I need some feedback

[young parrot]

not more advanced per se
they both are single-celled

[smoky juniper]

nope

[young parrot]

and both of their hunting strategies are effective

[young parrot]

ok

[inland junco]

yeah I meant advanced as in having a bunch of limbs and appendages

whereas the macrobe is a walking sphere

[young parrot]

then write that instead be concise

[young parrot]

*bouncing sphere

[inland junco]

I put quotations to imply that "advanced" may not be the right way to describe it

[distant hazel]

when someone makes the mountain shrine page: shrines spawned by Prestige have a different glow to them

[young parrot]

okay then

[young parrot]

they just have different vibes yknow

[inland junco]

making the interactable pages is gonna be painful

since we don't have in-game documentation that explains their mechanics in detail

we might have to ask the devs

[young parrot]

the devs are busy with the bug reports page lmao
i mean looka t it
313

[distant hazel]

mountain shrine detailed mechanics

• makes the game fun

[young parrot]

lmao

is it weird to anyone that wisps and greater wisps arent affected by stagger from small damage but ancient wisps are

[distant hazel]

ok nvm all of the mountain shrines glow different with Prestige

[distant hazel]

the cognation clone is another enemy

unlike ror2's artifact of spirit, these drop money and exp

ok ima play with sacrifice and see if I can notice them dropping items too

I need to also unlock a clover and see if they count as elites

or maybe someone can see if they are in the data

well I can tell you that they're elites in terms of gameplay, definitely tankier than a normal mob

[smoky juniper]

wisps are affected by stagger

[distant hazel]

cognatic enemies (I did just google that word) dropping money and exp in fact does not make the game more free

I can tell they have more HP and are slightly faster, probably hit harder too

I'm going to put all of these random notes on my wiki page https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Overdress3727

oh it's just cognate

source: spotter

[smoky juniper]

finished the Greater wisp, Spitter and Bramble pages for today

going to continue down the line tomorrow

[distant hazel]

where do I find artifact sprites

in the pinned drive

[smoky juniper]

i haven’t checked. sadly.

[distant hazel]

here we are,in Export_Sprites, conveniently named sArtifact[number]_0.png

listen here mithrix I'll beat you again

where are these used?

they're called DissonanceShardsUI

[smoky juniper]

these are artifacts shards scattered across several maps that make up the Dissonance artifact when all four are collected

[distant hazel]

yes but no

I thought these are what you pick up on the map

so the other ones are just confusing me

first group is DissonanceShardUI
second group is DissonanceShard

[smoky juniper]

those are various stages of the concurrent dissonance artifact as you make progress towards actually unlocking it

iirc

could also be used for UI/in map variants

[distant hazel]

wait when you pick up an artifact does it go to your item list

[smoky juniper]

yes!

that’s what i meant by UI

[distant hazel]

ok when I find my 3rd shard I'll keep my eyes open

what height do we want artifact images to be since idk how to make iteminfobox scale the image

2 of the images are 200 high, 200 it is

the risk of rain fandom wiki calls small enigma Small Enigma, is that the official name

[tough sand]

hey so how can i tell which variant a map is?

[distant hazel]

your memory

or the log

[tough sand]

the log?

oh yeah

already got all of those tho

so i'm not sure which

[young parrot]

only if its 100% or more pilots alt primary doesnt do anything to stagger them

[distant hazel]

you go back to the logbook on the title screen and look around the variants till you find the secret you're looking for

[young parrot]

i dont know about his regular primary one

maybe its just if its above 75% dmg

[distant hazel]

I keep killing enemies and then their cognate versions at the same time so I can't tell who dropped the item

[cloud root]

Well jts called small enigma in-game so 🤷‍♂️

[distant hazel]

oh ok

[cloud root]

I saw it while I was doing the origin unlock

[merry inlet]

Looking at the wiki here, it looks like the bandit wasn't a guest and ended up getting chipped together with others

[distant hazel]

wut

[merry inlet]

Yes, he was not part of the crew and given his name he probably wanted to steal the cargo's belongings

[distant hazel]

oh lore stuff

[merry inlet]

This is actually funny asf

[cloud root]

Imagine trying to loot some stuff from a cargo ship and getting stuck on a planet full to the brim with hostile creatures

How unfortunate am I right

[merry inlet]

AND A GOD-LIKE ENTITY INVADES THE SHIP

Too unlucky

[cloud root]

Bandit must have hit that 1% chance at meeting a deity

[merry inlet]

We call this luck or unluck?

[cloud root]

I think he wanted to loot without meeting God so I'd say unlucky for him

Maybe commando got lucky tho!

[merry inlet]

Acrid got lucky

Since they escaped

[cloud root]

Acrid true

Maybe hand and chef cause they don't really feel anything anyway

[merry inlet]

Han-D has been activated again

[merry inlet]

I would say that Chef has personality

But Hand-D is scary dude

All you see from him its the flashing red gaze

[cloud root]

Hand is an older model after all

It says that in the log

He's only on the ship cause they didn't wanna get rid of him lol

[merry inlet]

Yeah the crew loved him

[cloud root]

My face when my janitor is more intimidating than anything else on the planet

[merry inlet]

And i'm 87% sure that Han-D isn't a service robot lmao

[merry inlet]

Fr dude

Robomando is being added to the wiki?

[distant hazel]

Wiki admin guy is still vetoing it

Convince him

I beat a cognate bosses and it didn't drop an item anyway

so I think that's a sign Sacrifice won't work with Cognation

but I'll keep going

[young parrot]

guys i am not sure what happens when you kill the lemurian first with the cavalry does anyone know
im writing that section now

[distant hazel]

what happens? in theory it leaves the beast behind

[merry inlet]

The beast attacks u

Well its one or the other

[distant hazel]

can you die to the beast so we can find out the name of it

[young parrot]

with what attacks

[merry inlet]

Just like boars i think

[young parrot]

does it just charge like toxic beast

[merry inlet]

Not sure btw

[young parrot]

omg

uhh anyone who knows this

[woeful canopy]

Is it possible to have a spoiler mode toggle somewhere?

[distant hazel]

spoilers or tabs are both plugins and not native to the site I think

ok never mind to what I said earlier

cognate acrid just dropped an item

[elder egret]

Has anyone beaten the game with ||Robomamdo|| yet?

[woeful canopy]

Secret pages that are only directly linked to by things that are part of that secret?

I can understand not wanting to put it on the main survivors page, that's a bit of a big spoiler reveal

Or little spoiler reveal, idk

[elder egret]

But then people would see “Mysterious Battery,” think “Oooh, what does this dooo?” Click on it, then get spoiled for ||ROBOMANDO||

[woeful canopy]

Then frontload the page with the clues

Or only put the clues on the page

[young parrot]

guys what does the board do after you kill lemurian cavalry lemurian

pls tell me for the wiki

[distant hazel]

uh I just got the artifact of Tempus?

it was just sitting there????

[woeful canopy]

Yeah but right now people see "mysterious battery" think "ooh what does this doo", ask in every rorr channel and get spoiled for || robomando ||

[young parrot]

yeah it does that sometimes

[woeful canopy]

Lmao

[young parrot]

or they just see it in convo and be like what is robomando

robomando is actually ass except for that one silly little ability

[elder egret]

Explain how right now. Im not asking. I must know

[young parrot]

sometimes it pops up on the stage four telporter

it just pops up

[elder egret]

What chance?

[woeful canopy]

I'd find it so funny if tempus expired

And you had to keep finding it

"Your items are temporary, and so am I"

[young parrot]

hilarious

[woeful canopy]

Also I feel like the skill descriptions could really use a width=100%

They're so narrow

[young parrot]

guys has anyone noticed how elder lemurians have belly buttons
do they give live birth??

[distant hazel]

but then they're ｗｉｄｅ

I still debate doing width=100% anyway because it's just dumb on mobile

[woeful canopy]

width=100% max-width=?px
Could work

Or whatever the actual styling is

[elder egret]

Are there any secret achievements other than ROBOMANDO, prisms, and cooking Acrid?

I’m making a checklist for true completion

[woeful canopy]

The bastard under stage 1? Idk because he's killed me every time

[elder egret]

Explain pls. What bastard and where

[woeful canopy]

There's a desolate forest variant with a curved teleporter and two buttons that summon a bastard golem with a disposable missile launcher and instant minefield

Idk if that's actually an artifact unlock because I've died every time

[elder egret]

What variant? Is it in relatively the same place that honor was in the first game?

[woeful canopy]

It's on the far right of the stage

[maiden fjord]

that is an artifact unlock

[woeful canopy]

Well he sure surprised me the first time

[grizzled pasture]

What sort of golem

[woeful canopy]

I'll have a look through my run history and find out

[distant hazel]

oh yeah that's cognation probably

there was a rock golem boss I deleted instantly with glass so I didn't see its moves

[tough sand]

Oh cool I found an imp altar that's like bigger

It costs 50% hp

"summon powerful imps.holding great rewards..."

It's on the stage just before the final stage

Oh it breaks into 2 reds

Dang

Summoned some imp overlords

[woeful canopy]

I keep going for it the moment I see it on stage 1

Probably why I keep dying lol

[past frost]

i level up to 2 before going in on glass :)

extra dmg

[viral vault]

I've done some changes on Providence's wiki page because the last description wasn't detailed enough
it might need to be modified again to be even more precise

[young parrot]

whyere is it

oh dont answer i read it

[distant hazel]

so the DissonanceShardUI is how it looks in the pickup window

I took my screenshot too late

[void flume]

To give a more solid answer, I believe it's going to stage 5 at a high speed

There needs to be some research put into it

[elder egret]

What do you mean? Just like stack a ton of hooves and whips or are you talking timer?

[void flume]

Timer, I mean

Like getting to Boss Rush in isaac

[elder egret]

Achievable. I’m just gonna do it in drizzle with damage at 200% and defense at max.

[elder egret]

Never played Isaac actually.

[void flume]

Same idea pretty much, you need to complete depths 2 (level 6?) Before 20 minutes

[vivid bramble]

does anyone know how to get artificers multi-kill?

[distant hazel]

who's prism is this in the final area again

[tough sand]

2 acrid and merc

acrid is in the section below the 2 doors to providence

and merc is in the section behind the dancing golems

[distant hazel]

ok then merc is what I saw

[sly totem]

Hum .. What is this ? x)
In description: +2 Str 2 Million < sale ( I forgot this one sorry x( )

[tough sand]

to my knowledge, nothing, just something from boar beach

[past stratus]

It's just an easter egg item and only gives you some armor (2 or 3?) that does not stack.

[distant hazel]

I think a Cognate mob just dropped an item

whether it's because of sacrifice or clover I can't tell you

but one of them works

[bitter finch]

can any of you provide me a filial imprint item page screenshot

[bitter finch]

never mind i copied the desc from ror. need the transportation number tho

[west helm]

Is it known how to get the artifacts?

[elder egret]

Yes

There are the ones from the original ror1 (most are in the same places) and a few others that have some slightly harder challenges

[mint wing]

anyone have a good strat for arti 15 multikill

[elder egret]

Yes, glass and suicide bombing

[mint wing]

suicide bombing?

[west helm]

Do I ask around or do is there a place to view how to get these

[elder egret]

Most are really easy to find if you know what your doing, but you may need to ask around a bit. The RoR1 wiki could help a little bit for the returning artifacts.

[granite flax]

what i've been doing is [[CHEF#Skills|COOK]] for example, so it links directly to chef's skill section

going to be doing individual pages for providence trials today :)

[lunar birch]

been thinking how one could make the providence trials page look nicer than just a table

[granite flax]

ill be adding a big picture of all trials together, but i think the table is a good thing because its very functionable

you can sort by survivor, name, goal limit (for easy golding)

[bitter finch]

the prescriptions unlock condition on the item page is given 15 minutes. The correct one is 5 minutes

[granite flax]

will fix that, thanks!

[granite flax]

the first trial unlocked by default is "A Colossal Feat", right?

i forget

[void flume]

Yup, it is

[granite flax]

thank you!

[lunar birch]

terraria.wiki.gg achievement page seems like it would work

[granite flax]

that looks the same as ours, im confused

?

am i on the right page?

[granite flax]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/A_Fresh_Harvest

how does this look for a trial page?

i'll add an image of the map, too

[old summit]

"You must kill 20 Lemurians before the timer hits 0 to succeed the trial, and you must kill 50 Lemurians to achieve gold." This sentence feels a bit odd but otherwise it seems good

[granite flax]

how would you suggest i reword it? :)

[old summit]

"To succeed the trial you must kill at least 20 Lemurians" I can get the start sounding ok but the gold i cant put a finger on atm

also would it be worth having a loadout section with skills and items above the modifiers?

[exotic lion]

is this how i get the drifter prism

[honest shuttle]

I'd honestly just set it aside as a separate sentence:

"You must kill 20 Lemurians before the timer hits 0 to succeed the trial. To achieve gold, you must instead kill 50 Lemurians."

could drop the 'instead' honestly

[sacred bear]

anybody made a rorr item list wiki yet?

[old summit]

theres a page with all the items on the current wiki

[robust hound]

Is Robomando not on the wiki page intentionally, or just not a high enough priority yet?

Wanting to compare his stats to Commando's

[old summit]

intentionally atm

[robust hound]

So it'll be added later?

I understand wanting to keep a secret character off for a while in case someone would feel spoiled to find out as if they'd ever find out without a guide lol but I doubt anywhere other than the wiki will ever have readily available access to all the stats, skins, abilities, etc in one place

[cunning summit]

"The trial requires you kill 20 Lemurians to succeed (50 for a gold rank)." or something along those lines maybe?

[old summit]

theres debate about how to show secrets etc for now but theres still a ton of content being worked on

[past stratus]

I don't know how can there be a debate when the option of spoilering exist.

Survivor #1
Survivor #2

Following content are spoilers:
||Spoilered survivor #3
Spoilered survivor #4||

Obviously, with better wording and design.

It would even make sense to keep it that way after a while, since it's meant to be secret secret.

[old summit]

the problem ive seen mentioned is do you leave things like the battery in the item list as people will click on it to find out what it is. Then spoil the whole thing

[past stratus]

Wouldn't it make sense to spoiler the item itself too, or the functionality of the item?

As a note, I'm not against not featuring it until a certain time has passed, but I lack prior knowledge on the debate itself and its arguments. From my perspective without that, using the spoilering makes the most sense.

[old summit]

honestly i dont know all the details either, im just going off what ive seen mentioned

[smoky juniper]

the very existence of a secret character that is behind a spoiler warning spoils it to begin with

thats what we’re trying how to figure out to do without spoiling anything for those who don’t want to see it

[keen mulch]

Well, that's what can happen when you go to a wiki.

I don't say put everything on it without spoilers, but a wiki should have everything

[smoky juniper]

it’s different from traditional spoilers

it’s obvious when a game has spoilers about its ending, because all games have endings

or something resembling the concept

it’s different when the spoiler for a spoiler spoils everything to begin with

if it wasn’t for the spoiler, one wouldn’t know robomando even existed, for example

we want to implement a way to make it a not obvious spoiler for people who know about robomando’s existence to access its page

[keen mulch]

It depends on how you go for it, if you spoiler a thing in on the survivor page, people would only now know there is like a secret thingy

[smoky juniper]

and hide it for everyone who’s just using the wiki casually

[past stratus]

Yeah, this does sound near impossible if put that way.

[smoky juniper]

that’s what i mean, it’s hard to make that “secret thingy” not seem like a secret character. it already gets your mind racing for logical conclusions with the information you’re inferring without even being spoiled necessary

[smoky juniper]

that’s why we’re here though

[keen mulch]

But is it really that bad that people know there is a secret character?

[smoky juniper]

it’s as bad as a spoiler. some people really hate spoilers

even something as un-influential as robomando (which is frankly a joke character) can be important to people

[keen mulch]

Well, too bad for them to be honest. It shouldn't stop us doing what a wiki is supposed to do, provide information

[past stratus]

Btw, do we know who are the wiki staff/core editors here? Got some questions that are not specifically tied to RoRR wiki itself.

[keen mulch]

I know some gg staff, but for questions you can go to the gg discord

[old summit]

Gummy Gremlin is the wiki admin

[smoky juniper]

@ retropacifist

[past stratus]

Well, got some questions regarding the experience with them and moving stuff. I don't think I can ask the former with gg staff themselves.

[smoky juniper]

you can ask them!

[keen mulch]

oh, you mean ror1 and 2 wikis?

[smoky juniper]

everyone say it with me

fuck fandom!!!

[past stratus]

FUCK FANDOM!

[keen mulch]

fuck fandom!!!

[past stratus]

It does not matter as long as you got experience in general.

[keen mulch]

okay, you could ask me. I have been an editor on the dead cells since before the fork

[barren flicker]

Anyone know how to get get the pilot skin on the wiki that just says ToDo?

[keen mulch]

Nope, otherwise it would have been on the wiki, best to ask in game questions, more people who know stuff

It wouldd be nice if those peope helped with the wiki but oh well

[woeful canopy]

And if you find out, put a note in that part of the wiki

[placid salmon]

what color is it

[old summit]

brown coat white collar

[smoky juniper]

does anyone have a source for the trivia section for Black Imps?

it mentions that imps are invasive creatures that hail from some place called the Red Plane, and that providence closed off their portals, stranding them on petrichor V

the Red Plane hyperlink leads nowhere, and i don’t recall any logs detailing it

[robust hound]

Is it really a spoiler if there's practically a 0% chance they figure it out on their own?

Didn't it take two days for the first person to crack it, when there were dozens of people working together and millions more playing the game casually

Robomando is so obscure as to basically not exist unless someone tells you about it

[old summit]

i think its from the ror2 log

[old summit]

the lost was a similar thing for isaac but that got datamined

[smoky juniper]

i’m still unsure if we should include ror2 lore as part of trivia

[old summit]

the original lost unlock was layers apon layers harder than robomando

[smoky juniper]

i think the most annoying and obscure part about robomando’s unlock is the fact that you have to be on certain difficulties to unlock him

i play exclusively on monsoon, so if i haven’t found out about robomando, i would’ve never found the battery to even begin figuring it out on my own

[eternal plover]

I would never have found it because i've never once played drizzle

[quiet stirrup]

Robomando?

[old summit]

losts was specific characters being killed in certain ways on certain floors

it was honestly Too hard for everyone

[smoky juniper]

that was rebirth lost btw

later dlc changed it to dying with a specific trinket in a specific room

which is still pretty obscure but not as much

[swift plinth]

I don't expect any player was supposed to figure it out on their own. The clue for finding it on drizzle was just "EASYDOESIT" as a code hidden in the travel ID of commando

More of an ARG than a reasonably found easter egg

[old summit]

do we have conflicting logs about things?

[smoky juniper]

not that i’m aware of it, but it feels too ambitious

[keen mulch]

No imo

[smoky juniper]

i’ll discuss this with gummy when they’re online

[past stratus]

Not sure if the bison's log counts? It's a bit ambiguous, but the writter seems to be unaware that it's a known species that "vanished" from its natural habitat.

Something that is clearly expressed in RoR2.

Logs in RoR1/R are written in a way that shows the writter as someone who is well-versed in science and stuff, so I would assume that they are aware of this.

[smoky juniper]

oh yeah we did have a vaguely conflicting log between rorr and ror2

ror2 bisons have three “metallic protrusions” while rorr bisons’ log illustrations makes those details look much more like eyes

[past stratus]

It's those bisons again!

[smoky juniper]

either way, we’ll come to a conclusion later