#The Toya Discussion

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brazen glen
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Ok buddy

jade orchid
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Here's the dabi simp, simping for dabi

mystic trail
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I simp for dabi

sharp jetty
deep jay
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imagine his voice

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hear we see a dabi simp, in his natural habitat, going about his day. He sees a potential competitor and begins to chant and argue with its target. often times such rivalries can get to extreme levels of chaos, while some dies down due to lack of sleep

brazen glen
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type Dabi if you simp for Dabi

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Dabi

pearl bronze
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Dabi

sonic stirrup
dull flint
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Toya

brazen glen
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Doo doo water

lone parrot
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lol

brazen glen
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Dabi

lone parrot
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nono,

tha bee

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XD

brazen glen
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How does Dabi smell like? TsuThink

lone parrot
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...........dunno-

sharp jetty
deep jay
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^

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he said it

long jetty
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Is Dabi Endeavors son coz my friend said he wasn’t

pseudo stirrup
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Mfw anime onlies in manga thread

jade orchid
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MFW anime onlys in an manga thread

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Yes he is.

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It's confirmed.

deep jay
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this by far was my first and worst spoiler

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finding out dabi is toya

brazen glen
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Hey atleast it's not as bad as his personality and motives

pearl bronze
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Best villain

brazen glen
long jetty
lone parrot
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oop

brazen glen
vestal lodge
mystic trail
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Unnecessary

rigid charm
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Bruh they muted me😭😭😭

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I'm so sad

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I miss them

vernal ore
tawny bolt
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yay this is back

unreal knoll
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hello

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i am invested todoroki family drama so here i am >:)

deep jay
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welcome

deep jay
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here's what I don't get. respectfully, why do people use the whole dabi killed 20+ to counter argument against others?
I mean irl thousands of people die but people only feel sad for a death that they know about. shouldn't it be the same case for the todorokis.
yh he killed 20+ people but then we saw more of his family and what they went through and enjis's endeavours which carry more impact.
same case with shiga, yh he killed a lot of people but we weren't emotionally attached to them. yes the phrase 'ignorance is bliss' is being applied here

pseudo stirrup
pseudo stirrup
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Even by people who don't know the victims lol

pearl bronze
candid copper
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Wht this thread abt tho

storm stone
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it’s about toya/touya sometimes

deep jay
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no but some use it to weigh everything above it

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like forget shiga's background history, affiliation with afo, he just killed people so hes bad.

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forget any justification

pseudo stirrup
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He is bad because he killed people

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But not as bad as, say afo, because he was manipulated and grown into that mindset instead of choosing it willingly

unreal knoll
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Touya went through stuff too, though. How can we really say which backstory is more valid? 🤔

storm stone
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they both have unfortunate backstories, theyre also bad people for their own reasons

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though shigaraki was nurtured into it more than dabi, primarily because the intent of AFO was obviously to create a terrible hate filled person to be a vessel for his power

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i think dabi had problems from the start that weren’t properly addressed by endeavor, and they progressively got worse since he was always discarded as a result of endeavor’s goals

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then id assume him coming into the environment he did after he almost completely killed himself pushed him even further to the way he is now

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i don’t really think either of them can truly be saved from their mindsets at this point

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im probably just rambling so imma shut up

deep jay
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but exactly as hes done, he just rambled and summarized and clearly pointed out the dabi's childhood. on the other hand, i see legit little to no talk about the so called 20+ people he has killed. yes it may be ignorance but 20+ people dying dont carry as much impact as learning the abusive childhood of childrens when we have no connection to said dead people

pearl bronze
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30 people*

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Are you trying to say Endeavor is worse because we saw the abusive vs Dabi killing 30 strangers?

jade orchid
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^ their a dabi simp

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what do you expect

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honestly

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a decent convo?

brazen glen
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Pahaha

deep jay
# jade orchid a decent convo?

you do realize half the time its also the opposite side coming to conclusions and starting fights
i had no intention to fight yet here you are with the comments respectfully speaking

brazen glen
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Do you mean that it has more of an impact on the audience when you can see it?

pearl bronze
jade orchid
deep jay
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i do though...

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maybe i havent expressed it but i do know hes a villain

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and aware

jade orchid
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villains are NOT MEANT TO BE LIKEABLE

brazen glen
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I think you just need to say that you’re willing to simp over him regardless of what he’s done

deep jay
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obv

brazen glen
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And avoid trying to minimise his crimes

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Just own it

deep jay
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but you can understand villains

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and where they come from

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somewhat justify them for their crimes

brazen glen
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The real question is would you date Dabi if he were a person irl?

deep jay
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obv i think dabi should go to jail for all his crimes and the devastation he scaused

brazen glen
deep jay
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wym?

brazen glen
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His backstory shows why he wanted to commit the crimes. But that doesn’t absolve him of actually doing them.

jade orchid
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^

deep jay
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oh yh def 100% agreed

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hes 18+ so his actions arent completely cuz of his background only

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that said they do play a part

brazen glen
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Just simp for Dabi if that’s what you want

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You don’t have to do all this mental gymnastics to try to make out he’s less of a bad person

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He’s scum, just own it

deep jay
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i dont deny that

brazen glen
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Great! So when Dabi does whatever dreadful things he’s bound to do you can cheer him on

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Sounds fun

deep jay
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which sounds like a stupid thing to say......oh right and we're the toxic people

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jee thnx

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i guess ill do that. though id actually cheer if its enji hes doing it who knows XD

mystic trail
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Hmm

brazen glen
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Oh if Dabi harms Endeavor in any way then I’ll be cheering him on too

mystic trail
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Dabi is hot

brazen glen
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All Endeavor suffering is good

brazen glen
mystic trail
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Hmm

deep jay
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AH we can agree on something after all

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ngl, its the major reason i am for dabi

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if we didnt had the enji thing, i wouldnt be a dabi simp

brazen glen
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I just want Shoto and Endeavor to die

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Then I will be happy

brazen glen
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no

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endy will die

pearl bronze
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How about. No Todoroki dies

jade orchid
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^

sonic stirrup
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Hmm........ no

deep jay
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you cannot end in a stale mate

jade orchid
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You can.

sonic stirrup
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You can..... but I don't want that

jade orchid
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Yeah you don't

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maybe HK does

brazen glen
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shoto live

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Todoroki did

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die

jade orchid
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just nuke all the todorokis

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only fair

brazen glen
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NO

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I want rei to die tho I’m sorry

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that would impact the story but

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At the same time I don’t want her to die

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I hope she doesn’t tbh

plucky jewel
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😟

vernal ore
mystic trail
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Shigiraki

vestal lodge
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Shigiraki

pseudo stirrup
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Shishigaga

unreal knoll
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shigrjasdg

plucky jewel
brazen glen
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shiggy

deep jay
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sup

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ooooh

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so thats how threads work lol

jade orchid
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really?

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you had to revive it?

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should left it dead SMH

pearl bronze
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It's alive just like Dabi is

sonic stirrup
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The bear seeing its favorite honey spot burn down that night

deep jay
jade orchid
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and if dabi dies without killing enji?

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dabi's stats are trash

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he's nothing compared to shoto and endeavor

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even the lowest characters in 1a can defeat dabi

deep jay
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its also horikoshi writing the manga

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anything can happen

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its called hope

jade orchid
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Keep thinking that

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I hope Dabi dies trying to kill Endeavor as a way of saying "hahah I didn't care about dabi to begin with"

deep jay
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i dont want that kind of ending

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horikosi is a good author. he wouldn't ruin characters DekuLurk UraSweat

jade orchid
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He already did

deep jay
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damnit we need a nervous emote

jade orchid
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If you've read the recent chapters then you know he does lmao

deep jay
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how is it that no nervous emote exist ever

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wtf not even normal emojis have nervous emote

pearl bronze
jade orchid
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HK

pearl bronze
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Meant which character ruined

jade orchid
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S&S

pearl bronze
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Dabi has the advantage of being here long and connected with Todoroki plotline

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Also male

brazen glen
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wtf this shit again

pearl bronze
deep jay
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oh

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yh tbh its a possibility for every character

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which hasnt been ruined that is

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yet

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for fore

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for now

deep jay
woven vapor
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Oh, I watched that it's so good!

deep jay
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loved it. didnt realized the whole community aspect to it

plucky jewel
jade orchid
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Dabi sucks.

solemn stream
mystic trail
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He does not

plucky jewel
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dabi slander

deep jay
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yoooo its back

jade orchid
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Dabi slander

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Its a channel to slander dabi

sonic stirrup
pearl bronze
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Toya gets stuff done. AfO doesn't

sonic stirrup
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Lets not pretend afo didn't save their asses twice now

pearl bronze
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Twice?
Well Dabi could've finished off Shoto if everyone else didn't mess up

solid zenith
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brainless friendless soon to be fatherless

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the last one is his fault

lone parrot
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lmfao dis is still der lol

plucky jewel
solemn stream
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Bruh

pearl bronze
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What if...he lives

solemn stream
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No

pearl bronze
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Yes

solemn stream
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No

pseudo stirrup
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Correct

plucky jewel
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Incorrect

solemn stream
brazen glen
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didnt i leave this

solemn stream
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welcome back

deep jay
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welcome back

jade orchid
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Dont welcome anybody back.

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This chat dies forever.

solemn stream
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no

plucky jewel
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it will live forever

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until he finally dies

solemn stream
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yes

stoic jay
solemn stream
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we keep it alive

brazen glen
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Awooga

astral flame
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sup shit heads

jade orchid
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Hi Yui

astral flame
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toya is over cooked

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hi cutiefly

jade orchid
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How are you? You good? Havent seen you in a bit

astral flame
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im good

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i have definitely been nerfed but I'm an assistant now so all good

rain shale
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Oh no

deep jay
deep jay
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achoo

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damn sneeze

pearl bronze
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think of a good Toya topic

deep jay
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huhhhhh

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its hard a lot of good topics have been tlaked about

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i cant think of something new

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maybe shoto and how he sees dabi

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outside of well heneedstostophimcuzhesinthewayandhelpdadandwhatknottbeahero

pearl bronze
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called him touya-ni

deep jay
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lmao

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in the war arc, did he really react to dabi's reveal?

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seems like atm he just treats him like dabi as a villain and doesnt seem to have the knowing hes his older brother. then again he was secluded from the 3 older siblings in his youth

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and toya died

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although he managed to somewhat reunite with the other 2, dabi is a complete stranger to him. so it kinda is easier for him to deal with dabi

pearl bronze
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??? what he calls him like big brother toya. First time we see Shoto cry and screem in a while

deep jay
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oh wait he did?! nice

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nvr mind then

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even so he seems like the better at dealing with it

pearl bronze
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I'll have to reread but shoto cried iirc

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Endeavor has a lot on his mind so

deep jay
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yh its hard. he needs to be endeavour rn which works for everyone but not for the todorokis

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if he becomes enji, hes neglecting the whole society

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i just want dabi meeting rei lol

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give me mom and son

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maybe even natsuo thrown in together

pearl bronze
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I want them to meet too. but that means Rei and Natsou are in danger tbh

pseudo stirrup
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Doubt he'd interact with em properly

deep jay
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i mean its not certain dabi is gonna vaprize every todoroki he sees on sight

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even with enji he aint gonna straight up stab him. hes wants to do it his way basically

pearl bronze
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True but killing them to hurt Endeavor is pretty likely. He did cry blood mentioning his family so who knows

deep jay
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yh both sides of the coin possible

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really up to hori

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but tbh idt killing them would do too good. especially with the current state of the manga

pearl bronze
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I mean he won't be successful but Dabi could try. We might see both Toya <> Rei, Fuyumi, Natsou emotional moment and also pain

deep jay
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yh

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i hope hori delivers it

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itd be amazing

pseudo stirrup
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But he doesn't care about anyone other than shoto/enji

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Rest are just extra

deep jay
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its weird how so much stuff hori has done around the todorokis. theyre the next main characters after deku
endeavour, enji, dabi, toya, rei, natsuo, fuyumi, shoto

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so much work put into them. even more then a lot of 1a students lmfao

pearl bronze
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Well main trio are Deku, Bakugo, and Shoto because theyre the main plotlines

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Deku being involved in Todo drama early on

brazen glen
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So Since Todoroki has mastered keeping his temperture down

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he could go toe to toe with Dabi

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only issue I see Dabi arc ending with a huge moment with Dabi and Natsuo

mystic oar
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Natsuo should get the opportunity to apologise for not listening to him that night

deep jay
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dabi already had a severe drawback with his extreme fire and cold resistence

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shoto would win over a drawn-out battle

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im waiting if dabi is gonna become a nomu or get an upgrade from afo or not

jade orchid
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He may not

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For all we know AFO could steal his quirk and kill him

deep jay
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or 200 or 100

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also its clear he cannot solo the entire hero agency

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the sole reason hes created minions. i mean then why create nomu, why give giganto power, why train shiga

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all of it pointless if he can just steal the LoVs quirks

jade orchid
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They cant exactly create nomu now

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Cause of the doctor being arrested

deep jay
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they still have the most powerful ones

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exactly even now having numbers means strength

jade orchid
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Doesnt mean Dabi can be turned into nomu

deep jay
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yh

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i mean by nomu i mainly meant getting +1 quirk

mystic oar
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wouldn't dabi's quirk hurt AFO too

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I mean not as much as it hurts Dabi, but still

pseudo stirrup
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Stryker means dabi gets another quirk, not afo takes his quirk

mystic oar
deep jay
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dabi inherited enjis fire

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thats that

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afo can easily make countermeasures against fire

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the cold resistance is more background body build rather than a quirk in itself

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its like deku in s1

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how his quirk was too powerful for his body. its not that he had another quirk that made him weak, just his body was built that way

rain stone
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yes, toya is toya

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that's all

deep jay
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toya is dabi

stiff crescent
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Its touya

pearl bronze
jade orchid
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Still ugly though.

sonic stirrup
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Bozo to bozo

brazen glen
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The only difference is he’s shirtless, is that the joke?

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Help

pearl bronze
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More muscle

jade orchid
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@brazen glen you asked?

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I came running

brazen glen
brazen glen
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Toya’s a narcissist

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Hijacked an entire nation of TVs just to take his shirt off

solid zenith
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'so as you can see i have no nipples'

brazen glen
tired elk
deep jay
mystic trail
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Hmm

deep jay
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wait thats an emoji?! llmao

deep jay
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will we see dabi in next ch?

mystic trail
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I wish

deep jay
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hope he does not pull an AFO

mystic trail
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He's not garbage frfr

solemn stream
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revived lol

brazen glen
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Touya bad

deep jay
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yooo

sonic stirrup
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Bozo thread back

storm stone
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this thread will never truly die

mystic trail
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Toya good

solemn stream
deep jay
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toya telling toga to man up

deep jay
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which is just karma

deep jay
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just wanna leave this here

pseudo stirrup
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Hot

stiff crescent
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Well I mean it's fire

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Of course it's hot

lone parrot
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ITS STILL ALIVE????

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hskshkshsk LOL

winter token
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Forever

sonic stirrup
stoic jay
lone parrot
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o

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ok

sonic stirrup
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Its never truly dead

mystic trail
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True

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Dabi my beloved

plucky jewel
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L

lone parrot
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LOL

earnest drum
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hi

winter token
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Hi

earnest drum
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how r u

winter token
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Good

earnest drum
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i see

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nice

mystic trail
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Hash

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Hi

earnest drum
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hi

earnest drum
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I wonder how dabi is still alive

lone parrot
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lol

earnest drum
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yea

unreal knoll
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yeap

earnest drum
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?

pseudo stirrup
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Ok ron

mystic trail
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Ronam

vernal ore
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Quirk awakening incoming for Dabi