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Y’all been at it for 2 years
I will not engage in it
Persona 4 Golden
I can’t wait for 6 to come out
That way people shut up about which one is best between 3 4 5

they should put watame in persona
Well it wasn’t a contest in the first place, 5 was always inferior and not part of the discussion leaving 3 and 4 which is debatable between the 2
Fully convinced that people that completely dismiss 5 and hate 5 only dislike it because it’s the latest entry
True
Will not have y’all frothing that game for nearly 5 years straight only to say it wasn’t as good as 3 and 4 now
This will happen with 6
Ye
you can be right about something....
What? I was correct about 3 Fes being better than portable
its true
you cant control your party in fes
Just get good
3 and 4 are both peak
so lets just shit on 5 ong
No it’s cuz 5 is literally just taking out villains of the week for most of the game 
5 is only popular cuz of Joker making it into smash and people not really having an idea of what other persona games are like
tbf he was popular way before smash
thats all youve been saying btw
Smash still boosted 5’s popularity massively, cuz people would have been more encouraged to check out persona 5
then you would be wrong!
i think its a great games
i just shit on it for its flaws
!
like the phantom thieves having dog shit social links
U missed the hate 5 part
Ok heck
and we are shit talking 4
5
meaning they think we hate 5
but no one in chat hates 5
Need some assistance with hecc
You hate 5 heck
leave
Hold on
i did NOT spend 120+hours to plat 5 for me to "hate" the game
What do you say nausica
you got the plat on 5 royal
i gave it a 9/10
the game just isnt as good as 3 and 4
see he just said i hate persona 5

id rather play persona 5 strikers than persona 5 royal
He’s like essentially saying all the developers hard work was a waste of time
why play a worse game
at least strikers doesnt have the 3rd sem
He’s saying that the artists for persona shouldn’t have money to pay for a roof and food
Heck is pure evil
hes kinda really evil
Maybe he should be a palace in persona 5
how does it feel to be ignored ronald
we need to change his heart guys....
Heck is a rotten adult
Why do you need assistance with Heck ronamus
I bet he has a Morgana plushie
Because I have hecc's weakness
ronald, send in the Cera
i cant count
Heck hates minimum wage game developers
fuck
still goated
Oh fucking real?
need this pinned
That’s what heck looks like?
yea hes micheal cera
That’s not Michael Cera

I hate Michael Cera
This is Michael Cera
FBI what’s your cashapp, I’ll send you money so you can make an appointment for an optometrist
good i need new glasses
thats my bad...
@hard ginkgo you have seen pics of me before right?
i deserve it at this point
You sent a picture of your fucking feet to me
lock me up...
oops
watching a video on rent a gf
think that was like a year or 2 ago was the feet
yknow im starting to think this isnt that awesome
no i meant of my face
😰
Ayo
its true
Heck’s Feet Palace needs to be DLC for P5
No just feet
Hmm no
why not
Don't wanna
Good reason
hood can vouch
Just fat
did you call her a cow?
No
That's you and hood being problematic
ik what i heard buster
being in vc with them is an annoying experience its a good thing you dont join
fibs
Does sound horrible
literally the last few times we have voiced
you like
just fight with gage on fort
has nothing to do with me
😭
cause hood wasnt there btw
STOP
That image of heck is so unflattering
oh
Get better photos man
not like that
...
plus i said its you and hood that makes it annoying
Heck trying to convince #games-club that a photo of him isn’t him
I played Triforce heroes with my two younger siblings today
I'm being hated in chat...
@primal canyon got anything out of the 8 lootboxes?
Huh
@ebon nest why did i get 8 of em
1 legendary
5 epics
like something blues idk they were only crafting metals
like 2 greys which were quips and stats
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@strange forge adachi…
Right when i pinged you fistbump came on
Maybe its meant to be zachary
there’s been 2 new guns in the last 3 ish years
Pardon my language, 2 FUCKING GUNS?!
You are NOT pardoned
Meant to say 2 new guns
I did this with valorant too
They don’t shake the Meta like they used to
I mean, Apex is better than Fortnite ngl.

It's an opinion thank you.
Apex is at least better than warzone
Agreed
That's why I stopped playing. But, fortnite is way to competitive.
Dawg I can’t even play apex without going against a triple stack of preds
As a first person shooter its inherently more competitive
And since fortnite has zero build
To compensate for the people who dont want to learn how to play the actual game
There is no reason to say its that competitive
Apex/servers try not to shit itself every 2 business days challenge (impossible)
Tbf its probably worse for you bc of location right?
Yes
How many updates does apex do every 1 year?
Come to the US samuel
one day
Discord ai told me there was a discussion about fortnite vs apex occurring
You can bunk with me 🙏
Like 3-4ish
Isnt that less than overwatch?
Yea
💀
OW has 60 day seasons
If a game has less content drops than OW there is a problem
That’s how it’s at season 10 in 1 year +some months
Unless its like valorant where they obv dont wanna change the meta too often
I dont think they know that there are only 4 seasons a year….
@drifting oar ken amada
Ken looks like a pokemon game protagonist
Query: Is anyone here one of those hardcore F1 Racing gamers? My Mom is curious if that also correlates to you also watching actual F1 racing in irl. She saw something saying F1 racing was becoming popular in the US but we can't say we've ever met a fan.
not that bad
They make her look so mean
Apex apology for the account lost thing
shouldve been 10
Should’ve been an heirloom 
okkkk
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Faceboo...
all 3
ok Talon as Overwatch looks really good
but why do Overwatch as Talon skins look ugly
like I am never playing the red variant
what is that skull 💀
Talon characters don't look like that
the blue & white one my favr
the new gamemode looks fun too
April Fools gamemode Mercy is back it seems
WHAT IS THAT HANZO SKIN
Season 10: Venture Forth is going to ROCK 🪨✨
⛏️ New Hero: Venture (Unlocked for all!)
🔄 Mirror Universe themed Battle Pass
🔥 Unlock Select Previous Mythic Skins
⚔️ Clash Game Mode Trial
Dig into all these…
💖 376 🔁 103
sonic 😭
ok but the Symmetra skin
why did sym get one
she aint on any side
😭
still love her
buying the BP asap
Its something more like what if Sym wasn't Vishkar ig and was punk instead
they really said JunkerQueen
When will overwatch 2 make a good character...
It’s not about sides
It’s more like
The junker ppl will get technology advanced
And the vishkar people will be more junkerlike
They’re opposites
Chaos vs order
What if Sym was Australian
so where is the Junkrat and Roadhog with Vishkar clothes
Idk
come on blizzard
They don’t always show all the skins
But I hope they’re here
Cause the opportunity is right there
where is junker lifeweaver
oh wait
where is Venture's skin
lmao
ig they hiding it for now
we should see all of the skins properly soon
what
wait I just noticed
they didnt show a Soldier and Reaper skin either
literally the two characters that would make the most sense to have a mirrored skin
because yknow how they are complete opposites
ow might be fun with the event mode
soooo
600 coins in the premium BP?
or altogether/including the free version
streaming cod wz high trip mode
With MHA opening music (if I figure out how to use music bot)
https://twitter.com/OWCavalry/status/1778455667491193297 @strange cloud new dps mercy skin dropped
pretty sure free path because thats what the previous blog post said
ic
but also mentioned premium path having coins aswell
but nothing regarding that it seems
Bro what did they do to revs portrait he looks so goofy now
Mercy mythic, they are going to make so much money
Yea had seen it earlier this morning. Very excited
Here I thought you were cured 😔
I rarely play but when a new Mercy skin comes out, I am there
wait i didnt know venture & sucrose was same eng va
Tbh I don't play the game but these are pretty dope.
Like the casino
Lye posted this in front of you sho how did you miss it 😭
NO YOU REACTED TO IT
Appa is kind of cool.
KIND OF???
I don't know the guy well enough.
📣 This tune is now on streaming platforms! 📣
Thank you so much to Scott the Woz for asking us to contribute an original song (and some instrumentals) to his latest Christmas video!!
Scott approached me about co-writing a brand new bespoke video game music inspired xmas tune for his channel about trying to save some money this Christmas by buy...
@ebon nest
It sounds like a family guy song tbh
whats wrong with the skeleton mask
@bright narwhal lol p3 came last in the poll 😂
venture is a good character though
looks ugly
Looks fine to me but ok
I’ll continue Rise’s will
We're still talking about persona ⁉️
why are you playing it again
Is playing a good game reprimanded by society
is this 2024
yare yare
i just asked why zac
no hard feelings bud
We don't listen to YOU
I bet he carried
i think he did actually
you’re right I did
like normally i carry
but when zac was there
bro was crazy!
the ladies surrounded bro after we won too
aint no way
@winter breach @ebon nest 😭 😭
UR IN THE MAP??
LOOK AT HOW PRETTY SHE IS!!!
Damn I ain’t know I’d be into muscular women 🤩🤩
Behavior is a small indie company
Unfortunately DBD has the worst code ever made
fr
The game is being held up together by two spaghetti
second to yansim
jeff is so ugly
And the fact next update they are upgrading to Unreal Engine 5. I hope it actually makes good changes.
that match actually made me laugh so hard 😭
have u seen his one skin
theres one in my game thats y i remembered his existance
Jeff my beloved
Me irl
we should play tg
that looks better than the one ingame rn
real
Nvm
yes!!
I hate Jeff
he looks like he has a huge chin instead of paint on his beard
literally greedy grinner
Hater
gray beard... skyrim...
me playing my lvl 6 yui bc i like that skin
yes\
real tbh..
literally saw it and went thats my main
at first i wanted to main feng min cause her skins r cute but then resident evil
Even DBD can't change my thing with how I love playing men. (I main Trickster, Felix and Leon)
dbd is like one of the only games that i play as men in. like wesker is so fun
and i bought the carlos skin on impulse so im forced to use him occasionally
I DIDNT SEE HIM ALL MATCH
Who the hell is Leviticus Cornwall
u saw the survivors purple border on their icon? 😭
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNKNOWNS SPIT THING
LMAOOO
Trickster Mains don't play the game. They just stare at Trickster the whole time
Rdr2
looking at trickster burns my eyes
he dresses like a middle school boy
That's why I own all of his skins
actually no wesker mains are notwesker i am so easily tamed.
its actually embarrassing atp
whats ur main skin combo
i only like the blueish skin he has
Lunar New Year head, his red outfit
Or sometimes I just use his red rarity skin with the heart forgot the name
i wish knight had half as many skins as trickster does
I wish Knight was removed from the game
all i got is that fuckass pumpkin costume
NOOOO 😭
I LOVE KNIGHT
his little guards are so funny
i can inv u tetsu
i get the stereotype all knight players are evil but that makes it funnier
I was gonna say I hate Knight and Skull Merchant mains but atleast Knight is a good character, I just hate playing against him. Meanwhile Skull Merchant is........
ok one sec
shes fine asf
but i went against ONE gen merchant
never again
I agree with that but playing against her, not fun. Also she doesn't belong in DBD.
Like we could have gotten a cyborg character but no. Hot woman
i literally see skull merchant as much as i see eclipses theyre extinct
we have a cyborg his name is singularity
u just jinxed us
Well he is a monster. I mean like a cyborg human
remember the plague
oh god no
i went againt one earlier too
i had resilience so it wasnt TOO bad...
staring at my biggest mistake (carlos)
@winter breach hop in vc
Ha he sucks at the easiest Mario game
Give us a HD remaster of New Super Mario Bros DS 🗣️
Give us Mario
It’s the one I go back to most and they most interesting levels
SUNSHINE REMAKE RAHHHH
Ugh fine I’ll have Mario and Luigi superstar saga remade
i agree i like that guy
they did that already
Yeah lol
If they can make a collection remake (they won’t) than I can see it coming to newer consoles (they don’t) because the super Mario rpg series is sick (Nintendo hates it)
What about paper mario thousand year door? Did that get remade?
Fuck it gimme wario world remake and it will be game of the year
Give us a starfy remake
give us a new wario land
Give us a remake of Mario 128
Yeah last one we had was shake it on the Wii and that was fantastic
I know it never released but like just give us a remake
they should remake wonder
Real
Do people really hate wonder?
i really enjoyed it
Remaster Mario and Sonic at the Beijing Olympic Games
no one hates it from what i gathered
Loved it
they should make dlc for it
best 2d mario since nes/snes
so ill go back to it
Nah NSMB on Wii and DS were great
Watch the Mario world fanboys crawl out of The depths
It was when they went onto make 2 and U that we’re shit with bland level designs and shit gimmicks
3 is better than world tho
i mean i did say snes/nes
i think world is real good but everytime i go back to it i think "wow i wanna play 3"
me when i choose games that are not very creative
me when i choose the games i grew up with instead of the better ones 🤥
The shell? The very thing you see in Tas runs all the time?
The way you get to secret flags were far better than any other one
true
That’s like comparing a 2 year olds drawing to Picasso
Both are great, one’s just better
Not all the time
The shell was fun
they are NOT getting pity points from me
?
Anyways yall better say your favourite Zelda game, that’s where real judgement lies
link to the past or between worlds
bc my least favorite is majoras mask... my favorite is still botw
Mines is Twilight Princess
You had to be there
twilight princess probably would be mine if i got around to finishing it tbh
i never played twilight
from what i played Botw/Totk > Link's awakening remake > OOT > MM
Handheld - Minish Cap
Console - Wind Waker
i never finished minish
Fair
i played it like 4 times and never got to the end
Close second for handheld is Link Between Worlds
Is it the GameCube or Wii version of Twilight Princess? Cuz Wii version is Mirrored
i started the GC version
Yeah, cuz Link is normally left handed when using the sword but the player is right handed when using the Wii remote so they got around it by mirroring the game
Y’all think those animals are okay
I don’t know what you told me
The cat is definitely dead
i dont think i actually told you anything
i just asked why you wer eplaying it agian
minor spelling mistakes guys!
My Haki is a completely different level, anything you say just gets blocked anyway
thats not the zombie one
did they ever port red undead
One piece fans walking into school without showering ( it’s their conqueror’s haki)
Yes, it’s in the overpriced remaster
😰
never got it
Red dead 1 is not on gamepass buddy
Hop on gamepass anyway
I have it
Goat
Love playing Gang beasts when people don’t hack the game and ruin the fun
Adachi is from the best persona game chat
Keep that in mind when you see me in chat
@bright parcel this is called teaching the locals
heck doesn't get the reference, hes not caught up
meaning he hasnt started the series
What if I told you Persona 4 wouldn’t exist without Jojo’s bizzare adventure part 4
Im like 30 behind?
too far behind
Same with rent a girlfriend!!
This is awful can we kill him
Both are peak
I love kawakami!!!
Bro quit hitting on your school teachers
My social link would be semi identical to kenji from 3
loser to loser conversation
In his rank 9 he almost ends it all
I-I’m not a loser
Will you do the same
Bc even if we have a type you being a good friend is all that matters on the end!

meant heck and kenji
Heck if you play Dragon’s Dogma 1 and 2 we will take you off the loser list
I dont play games that dont look fun
Trust me dragon’s dogma is fun
Idk what i did today ima be real
I read kaguya
goated
And caught up to OP
SHHHH
No projecting in game club
and rent a gf
Rent a girlfriend isnt mid…
Does this guy read anything good 🙏😭
not anymore
Then go ahead and rent one rn
stopped reading dandadan
I read only good things!
If go to japan maybe
Dandadan is peak
bro lost his mind
The only 2 series im caught up with are OP and mha…
Csm jjk dandadan ragfand sakamoto can take a break
can’t wait for the anime
Someone must’ve beat him with a pipe 💔
There’s no other way
You guys are about to unleash the beast
he has
I read fire punch
he hated it
The anime was mid so i havent picked it up
I love fire punch😨
Read the manga
i like lying on your name
With that animation quality… yeah ill pass
The manga is far better than the anime bro
Plus it was Mappa’s fault
"read the manga" btw
theres no animation on the manga
hope this helps
I would recommend older shonen but those require intellect
No they dont…
Yeah they do
Berserk, a fragile mind like yours would just cry on the first page
i started it and loved it
read all of the prologue and a little of golden age
and put it on pause
bc i was committed to ippo at the time
You paused the best manga arc of all time? 👁️👁️
he doesnt read thats why
to have it for when im actually ready to read it yeah
That’s because normal people wouldn’t continue reading it
cowards mentally preparing....
i dont wanna read something if ik for a fact im just going to be invested in a different series at that time
Shhh don’t say a word about what happens
He gotta see it for himself
Fibs doesnt know either
i read golden age btw
You don’t know that
right after
just put it on pause
i had like 5 other thinhs i started
and they were shorter
so i pause berserk first
You were definitely traumatised after golden age
😰
i think berserk so far was really dark
but nothing that like needed me to be intellectual
@bright parcel ryan is a berserk fan btw so ik that people dont have to be even slightly smart to like it
Please tell me Heck has played Any PlayStation exclusives or Xbox exclusives
i have played a few yeah
Name em
spiderman (all 3 of them), both gow 1 2 4 and 5, most of uncharted 4, gears 1 2 3 4 judgement, halo 1 reach and 3, a little sunset overdrive (was dogshit), Horizon zero fun, sackboy, ratchet and clank 1, remake, rift apart, Demon's souls, bloodborne, returnal, days gone(mid), Fable 3, uh i started starfield on gamepass, sea of thieves, i tried hi fi rush, i played the 2 ori games,
i hope this helps!
couldve just linked you
but im a tad bit silly
HOLD UP YOU SKIPPED GOW 3??????
....
i own it....
and i didnt finish 2....
i got like halfway through 2
tbf i played 1 and 2 after 2018
and i got ragnorok and a ps5 as soon as i was in the middle of 2
so bad timing
ong
Also sunset overdrive is PEAK
@bright parcel the easiest removal of hades for my top 5
idk i didnt like anything about it
it felt really bad
to control and to shoot
1 of them is definitely good
which one alduin
P4g
Bloodborne
are you saying thats the only good one
Yes
or are you saying its not good
Its the only good one
Ayo what?….. bloodborne is fantastic
undebatable
You are entitled to your wrong opinion🙏🙏
game is literally perfect
Me personally
besides being locked to ps4 at 30fps
It takes two CLEARS
being bad at souls games is ok alduin...
you are done now
.... bc of my experience and who i played with .....

maybe alduin is right guys
I am right
No he ain’t
absolutely LOVED playing it
It takes two is not touching bloodborne
It was so fun tho!!
have you played blood borne
real
but like
it takes two is unlike anything else ive ever played
I have it was free on playstation like 7 years ago or smth
i really didnt like bloodborne when i first played it
and then i went back like
3 years later
maybe 4
i have over 100hrs on a game that only takes like 13 to beat 😭
I just dislike how souls games are played
Hate the ui, combat, inventory management, world navigation, i hate it all
ic ic
It seems similar to me
Please give me a doll wife and let me kill a vacuum cleaner screw monsters and vampires or whatever
Dark souls doesnt give you the same mechanics that let you make the game easier on you if you are good
dark souls is just an rpg where its only "hard" bc the game is clunky as fuck
It’s because bloodborne came out not long before dark souls 3, and dark souls 3 used bloodborne as a basis in terms of level design and bosses
my reviews are cracked
Of course there is differences but the core stuff from bloodborne is in dark souls 3
Megas keeps trying to convince me to purchase xenoblade 3
Xenoblade fans…
xenoblade 3 is genuinely really good
Maybe xenoblade aint all that
xenoblade 2 is genuinely really good
Tetsu was one
xenoblade 1 gameplay is so fucking boring
Xenoblade 1 a 3 star? You BUGGIN
you pretty much have to use shulk to allow party members to attack the enemies.....
thats not fun
the other characters do so much cool shit
Ive never played god of war despite everyone raving about it
but shulk has to be there to activate fights
He is the party leader what do you expect?
the ps2 games are really good, 2018 is alright, ragnarok is cool!
i expect him not to have to use a monado art to start every fucking fight for my party members?
rex and noah dont do that in 2 and 3 btw
bc the gameplay got significantly better
all 1 has is world design characters and story
i dont see any other game doing that as well
Have you played Xenoblade Chronicles X?
They will never port it
proof?
they ported that dogass picture game
where you take pics of ghosts or something
😭
wii u exclusive
they ported just about every wii u game now
im sure it'll happen eventually
Project Zero is good do not diss it
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
shouldve just had a more engaging trailer
idk what to tell you izu
my 5/5s are cooking btw
the rat strikes again
no no
Kingdom hearts 1 is a 4
sonic is definitely the weakest
its the best kingdom hearts game
IT TAKES TWO MENTIONED 🔥 🦅
shush now fibs
2 better
i grew up with SA1 its going at the top
he said its only good cause of who he played it with
2 is "better" bc the game only really gets even as good as 1 at the end
i dont think he would've given it a 5/5 if not for that reason
late game content in that game is genuinely peak
but the entire first half of the game is a slog with disney worlds that dont really progress anything for the actual plot like they did in the first game
and they made it super easy to deal with every encounter in 2
No? The combat is improved in every single way, they got more creative with the worlds, the gummy ship gameplay was overhauled and redone, there is just so much 2 did better
combat sure
but literally everything else was better in 1
gummy ship... yeah im not discussing gummy ship
least of my concerns
I can tell you had ptsd with gummy ship
the combat is better but with the lack of difficulty
and the worlds are worse imo
the only ones i really liked were like
pride lands
and uh the last world
idr any other that REALLY called out to me
my rankings for kh would be KH > BBS > 3 > 2
from the main games
That is WILD
but thats just bc i like how 1 plays and felt the most in my experience
BBS i loved the command deck and how it felt similar to kh1
- the story and characters were peak
3 (with procodes and remind) is legitimately better than KH2 in every single way other than the story
3 is not better than 2
the graphics are absolutely breathtaking, the combat is so fluid and fun, the only problem with the combat is again lack of difficulty and how you gain form changes
why is that
the only thing i can say is worse is the story
and most of kh2 is kind of filler im ngl 💀
I get the feeling we did not play the same KH2
frozen world sucked ass btw
we did
100% did
i just dont have nostalgia for any of the games
Like 2 would have been the perfect conclusion if there was no teaser for birth by sleep or dream drop distance
mine
perfect conclusion is one thing
but if we are going off story
the first game was better
bc they actually incorporated the story into the disney worlds
im not surprised that you have this line up
thank you
you are 100% american
you are also american!
ong
if you played re5 like you played it takes two youd understand
Your top 5 is definitely better than his I’ll give you that
i played re5 with the same person i played it takes two with
you think i should?
yes
idk are the controls bad
the camera angle is something for sure
bc she might not like it if it controls poorly
i got used to it
this is really sad....
HOLLOW KNIGHT ON TOP
chat this is real
play a real game for once instead of these "games"
i know what you are
☹️
I feel like playing Mario kart 7 all of a sudden
people who play indie games just wanna be different and it shows...
Indie games have more passion put into them now than triple A companies
400 bounty on this guys head
y0 is close to being top 5
fibs is waiting for us to congratulate them on how they are different
gotta let it simmer a bit more
yap
talk to me more about kh2
NOW
I remember watching my father playing it when I was younger
It’s honestly amazing, get it if you can, it’s insomniac’s best game in recent years
I think I was 9 or 10 when I watched him play
im still waiting btw
i thought undertale was up there tbh
Lisa is a pretty good indie game
lisa goated
thats cool chat
Even crazier it was made with RPGmaker
heck still hasnt played it
I’m more of a fan of Deltarune ngl
hate that guy
but im waiting for izu to talk to me about kh
Heck why haven’t you played Lisa
game isnt even finished
cause hes an opp
so i havent touched it
What the heck heck
i got it for christmas(?) from my friend
Indeed, he Skipped GOD OF WAR 3
That’s a fair point
Than okay it
and i wanna play it when i have like
Play
just that i wanna play
what about
no other games just go through all of lisa like im binging it
at some point!
Today
Screw it, I’m gonna force Heck at Gunpoint to play Dmc 3
you finished p3r
i need to play dmc 1 and 2 first!
No you do not it’s a PREQUEL
do not play 2
....
play palworld
do not play 2
Interesting
im gonna play release order btw
heck im warning you btw
I do want to get into RPGmaker at some point
trust me
I am an artist and know how to make assets and stuff
i only got rpgmaker xp just to edit pokemon games
you will not
lol
If you like dmc 2 you cannot speak again
Just can’t think of anything interesting to make
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