Right, but in all the situations we’ve discussed so far it’s doing something that doesn’t make you more likely to win it at best helps other people. I get that’s game throwing
#questions
main aspen
fiery bloom
But this means that if you get bitten and everyone is bitten the village team loses @unique rover
And if you are cursed and asked to be bitten as cursed while village could still win you won’t get banned since you win?
main aspen
Right, anything that intentionally makes you less likely to win or at best helps other people instead of your existing team members is game throwing. It’s using your position to act against your own interest
Like when I get confused is when you’re faced with the choice between doing something that helps you win and not doing that thing why doing the thing that helps the other people more than you would be game throwing
unique rover
we are talking about situations that won't change the game are we not?
Like, if the sl want to wait to sect everyone, in all cases, the sect would have win: he is helping an other team BY PUTTING THEM ON ITS TEAM
fiery bloom
But the dead people on that team lose
vernal oyster
If there's still enough people around to kill SL, I think it would not be acceptable to let him live... Even tough technically it can be helpful in the end 'oh he can find werewolves for us' it's not helping your village team, it's helping sect...
main aspen
At the end of the day the question at least from my perspective should be “does this make me more likely to win” regardless of what it does for other people
Majestic, can you reduce that to a simple version of the scenario like with four orfive people so that I can conceptualize it easier
vernal oyster
No the question is about your TEAM first not you alone, it's a team game.
unique rover
@fiery bloom they would have win anyway
fiery bloom
Now I’m confused
unique rover
if the village CAN win by lynching the sl and decide to win with sl, it's gamethrowing and not allowed
main aspen
But it’s not a team game, the headhunter is out for himself first not for the village the fool is out for himself the serial killer is out for himself there are plenty of rules where your goal is you win
I don’t think saying that doing the thing that makes you less likely to win at the advantage of other players makes any sense
vernal oyster
Yeah hh and solokillers are 2 solo 'teams'. WW and villagers and sect are team situations....
unique rover
if they CAN'T win with village because sected are more than half of the village, then the sl can decide to convert anyone, to be nice
fiery bloom
Ah, so in a 4v2 situation a cursed asking to be bitten is gamethrowing @unique rover
unique rover
instead of lynching the last ones
main aspen
Sure but you can switch teams as cursed
main aspen
In that situation you are more likely to lose by staying as village
unique rover
^ no matter
main aspen
It shouldn’t be your objective as a player to make yourself less likely to win. Taking one for the team is in conflict with everything else in the game
unique rover
you have to stick to you team, except if helping / voluntary changing your team won't change the final winner
fading zenith
Cursed always asking to get turned/bitten is gamethrowing by the rules.
main aspen
There is nothing specific in the rules that says so and I just read all of them
Twice
I read the guardians stuff and I read the in game stuff
fading zenith
You are abandoning your team for your own solo gain
unique rover
in game stuff ---> you have to stick to your current team, absolutely, and to try to make it win
main aspen
Yes, making yourself more likely to win is the goal
vernal oyster
We have already pointed out, unturned cursed is a villager so you should act in the village's interest.
main aspen
Not if it makes you personally less likely to win
fading zenith
If Cursed was solo it would be a different story. As part of the village, it's gamethrowing
main aspen
To me at least that’s completely absurd
vernal oyster
You are fundamentally wrong about putting your own win above your team's, since this game is considered a team game
unique rover
^
main aspen
It’s a situation where you’re making yourself less likely to win by not disclosing information. If you were the Seer that’s game throwing
unique rover
@main aspen you can suggest to change anything in the rules if you think it makes no sense, in #feedback-readonly ;) but currently, you have to absolutely stick to your team
and we are doing exceptions by allowing you to voluntary leave your team, to join an other one, if and only if this other team would have win anyway
main aspen
I don’t think I am, and I already sent my email to Philipp, so we’ll see what he says but i’ll follow whatever you guys say the rules are until it gets resolved.
The other thing I’ll say is that just disclosing is allowed within the rules after day three
There’s a specific carveout for that
You’re allowed to say “I’m cursed not turned” and people do it all the time as a way to avoid getting lynched
unique rover
if someone tells me he is cursed not lynched and I have no one to lynch, I'll kill him tbh
main aspen
vernal oyster
The thing is, they are still perfectly allowed to distrust you and kill you anyway. to some extend that would be in your favour too, because if you are really still a villager, you do hav a higher chance of winning if you die as one.
main aspen
“Random revealing is allowed after day three”
Not in that situation. If it’s a four on two and they lynch you, you lose
Because then it’s a three on two and then the werewolves kill you
fiery bloom
No, that’s wrong, you can reveal suspicious people after day 3
main aspen
Kill one of you
That’s not what the rule says. It’s about revealing your own information
it’s about revealing yourself or others
Like if it’s four on two the town don’t believe you and they Lynch you then it’s three on two and then they kill one of the towns people and then it’s 2 on 2 and they win.
vernal oyster
Random revealing listed here is in particular about the paci's ability, it does mention specifically 'you can not vote that day'
It's not a broad term for saying your own role
main aspen
Where in the rules does it discuss revealing your own role
It doesn’t seem like it does
vernal oyster
I thought that was what you were trying to get at
main aspen
No I’m talking about a situation where revealing your role makes you more likely to win
Which the seer is allowed to do
And is in fact expected to do so on day one
vernal oyster
this section of the rules is specific to the paci's ability, so cant really be used as an arguement in your cursed example.
main aspen
Sure, there’s really nothing in the rules that covers this because it’s a weird situation where your interests conflict with the interest of your team
And I don’t think it makes sense to ask players to take one for the team if it makes them more likely to lose
Like the whole idea of some of the rules is that you’re not supposed to take the interest of other players into account as with the let’s all win as zombies
When you start thinking on their behalf rather than yours, that’s bad
drowsy perch
I know that this is a stupid question but is there someone that knows what i need to draw (something of wwo)?
upbeat falcon
how can i become translator and get a badge?
stuck snow
@drowsy perch If you want to draw an outfit for Werewolf Online, you can check the style guide pinned in #avatar-ideas!
@upbeat falcon if you see that a spot is available for your language in #become-a-translator-archive-2 , you can DM the Translator Helper of your language to become a translator!
drowsy perch
@stuck snowI mean an idea that i need to draw.
Does someone has an idea for me and i will draw it
upbeat falcon
there are no translator helpers for croatian and bosnian
stuck snow
Then please do not ask this here, ask for inspiration in #avatar-ideas 😄
drowsy perch
Ohh 😔
upbeat falcon
@drowsy perch i have an idea
stuck snow
@upbeat falcon Then DM a project admin of the project you want to translate!
crystal anchor
@drowsy perch there is the list of guardians ^^
drowsy perch
Thank you bot(h)
crystal anchor
XD you're welcome 
safe dust
@drowsy perch If you were ban automatically it's because you committed suicide 3 times in me from 6am
drowsy perch
No it's for hATe sPeEcH... Trust me it's false
fiery bloom
@drowsy perch just contact a guardian
drowsy perch
@stuck snow all guardians are unavailable. Is there anyone else to speak to? (:
fiery bloom
@safe dust auto bans are from suicide’s or from the auto report system
@unique rover
@drowsy perch ^
drowsy perch
He's asleep
fiery bloom
He isn’t
mild anvil
He isn't don't worry
safe dust
@fiery bloom How does the system show?
drowsy perch
Weird, it shows me he is, nvm. I'm waiting for a response from him, thanks
mild anvil
That symbol doesn't mean he is asleep ^-^ he is just not doing anything special
fiery bloom
@safe dust in the ban message it says auto banned as I know, and it just looks out in the the chat for rule breaking wich can be false sometimes since it’s a bot, but I don’t know how much info I can give about it so I won’t say anymore ^^
safe dust
Okey thanks
main aspen
vernal oyster
It's red warning messages you sometimes see in game, when people say bad words or try to reveal ww's it does send an auto-report and can lead to an auto-ban
@main aspen This does not belong in #questions
main aspen
It was in response to the discussion about myrros
vernal oyster
There's not really supposed to discussions in here , and it did not contribute towards answering anything. But alright just keep it mind for next time then please.
main aspen
Will do
drowsy perch
can u tag mod pls
vernal oyster
@drowsy perch What do you need a mod for exactly? :)
drowsy perch
for have badge for instagram 😄
crystal helm
How did it works when we won a twitter giveaway ? Cuz someone tried to act like he was me on twitter
somber pewter
👀
vernal oyster
Ah you can contact Lisa about that, there she is 😁
crystal helm
Ok ty 🙂
spice panther
Where can i see the relationship between members and quest price/xp for tiers?
pale spear
Can I ask something related to discord (not to ww)
umbral nacelle
@pale spear yes you can
pale spear
Idk how to abandon a server
frosty imp
@spice panther, there is a chart pinned right in this channel about that, https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/440873630562517002/569860370123063297 ^^
pale spear
How do I?
umbral nacelle
@pale spear on mobile or on desktop?
pale spear
Mobile
spice panther
@frosty imp and the xp?
umbral nacelle
Tap the three horizontal lines on the top left
Then the three dots on the right of the server name
Scroll below until you see the message in red allowing you to leave the server
frosty imp
@spice panther https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/440873630562517002/562351126637445140 this one shows xp aswell ^^
pale spear
Thank you a lot
umbral nacelle
@pale spear you are welcome 😉
fading zenith
I think it is censored also @wide bridge
fading zenith
I remember someone complaining about it being censored hm, because of words like glass, assistance etc maybe.
glass dust
Does it really matter if a ww voted a target at night or not when checked by ss? He will turn out red anyway right?
fading zenith
@spice panther homo comes from homosexual which was used as a clinical way to suggest that gay people are somehow diseased or psychologically/emotionally disordered. So yeah, it is offensive.
vast frigate
"ass" isnt censored 
Just in my last game someone called me a "dumbass" but seperated into "dumb ass" and none of it was censored ^^'
@glass dust nope, if a ww didn't vote at night he will show a blue flame
saw that in my last game, i played with a friend and checked him, he was kinda confirmed ww from the previous day already but i rechecked to be sure and it showed blue the next day, he told me he didnt vote that night
boreal birch
If you're coupled, and that person is corrupted are you supposed to be able to see your role after they die?
vernal oyster
Yeah only the corrupted person's role gets hidden, not both lovers
boreal birch
Oof, I mean is the other person in the couple still able to see the others role.
vast pollen
Anyone have problems with bg? I selected someone and they were protected and died
vernal oyster
if it was first night, we've been getting a few bug reports that protection sometimes doesnt work correctly onnight 1
if thats the case pls post it in #bugs-readonly 👌
vast pollen
Okay, it is
surreal solar
@placid sparrow Go ahead and Ask 😉
drowsy perch
From where can we get the rhino outfit?
fathom narwhal
Clan quest
placid sparrow
Can the spirit seer ability see the team that kills or just individuals?
For example, I've been an alpha, junior, nightmare and beserk before. And I don't pick a person to kill because spirit seer can see who killed. But the spirit seer always finds out that I killed. Why is that?
hollow stratus
@placid sparrow The way Werewolves work is even if the weakest Werewolf doesn't vote who to attack, they are still counted as attacking. That's why they can die by trap, seen by Tough Guy, etc.
placid sparrow
Ok so how do you explain me being called "attacking" when I was alpha?
If I'm being honest in my opinion that doesn't make sense to me. Like if you don't attack you shouldn't be seen by spirit seer. Because that's the function of spirit seer is it not?
strange spindle
What do i do if i was wrongfully banned?
hollow stratus
Rip
vast frigate
Rip us captain
strange spindle
I just made a discord account so i have no idea what bot down means
strange spindle
How do i contact a guardian?
vast frigate
@placid sparrow that may've been a bug then because usually other than weakest ww you will be shown as blue flame ^^'
You sure that it was you who was shown as red flame and not the other player the ss checked you with which was maybe a jailer/mm/witch who killed a player that night?
Because out of my experience if you dont vote as ww = blue flame usually
placid sparrow
No it was a first night and I was alpha and the other person was jailer. And it showed me as red even though I didn't vote to kill anyone
Like what you says makes sense but to be alpha and shown first night when I didn't vote doesn't make sense
vast frigate
That's weird may've been a bug then because i dont see why alpha should be an exception as he's the second strongest werewolf it def makes no sense
placid sparrow
Exactly. Which makes me think that spirit seer still isn't 100%. And even the person who was spirit seer told me that I shouldn't have been shown if I didn't kill
surreal solar
@vast frigate @placid sparrow it was posted in #feedback-devs now
I hope Dev will fox this
crystal anchor
@glossy meteor you mean you can't find it for yourself?
crystal anchor
That's because this starter pack comes after the one with the sect ^^
glossy meteor
Ok 
tks you @crystal anchor
crystal anchor
You're welcome
crystal anchor
@glossy meteor I don't have it myself ^^'
worthy verge
Hey I keep getting extra suicides without suiciding. I'm starting to think it's those broken game lobbies giving them to me. Because I clicked 'Play Again' in Ranked and it gave me a normal ranked (not the quick Game lobby bug, this was an actual ranked lobby with correct writing) lobby except nothing was happening. When I tried to talk, nothing showed. So I exited. But it asked me if I was sure I wanted to exit, as though I was in the middle of a game. Could this be why I'm getting these extra suicides? (I never suicide if I can help it)
woven root
Well, I don't believe it's because of this. It's more like a bug which causes more bugs. You can report it in #bugs-readonly if you want to
worthy verge
Okay. However, idk how to explain it. It's similar to a bug I already reported before too. Just with a proper Ranked lobby with correct writing and everything.
And I'm not positive of that's why I'm getting those suicides.
woven root
Just report it there. I believe a helper can help you 
worthy verge
Okay. Thanks
stable breach
drowsy perch
crystal anchor
^ contact a guardian
verbal dew
Hello. How do I find my discord ID ?
verbal dew
Ohh okay thank you !!
rough stirrup
Excuse me, I have some questions.
-
can trap (from bh) protect from zombie and sect leader?
-
someone told me that if nightmare ww makes beast hunter sleep then trap won’t work, is it true?
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can doctor, bodyguard or tg protect ww from witch, marksman or serial killer? (I want to know in case I’m in love with werewolf and I can protect)
-
if some werewolf doesn’t vote at night and spirit seer checked that person, he can see red or blue flame? (But another ww killed someone)
Thank you so much~
woven root
@rough stirrup
- BH trap can only prevent converting from the sect leader
- They only can prevent killing by serial killer
- He will see a blue flame
grizzled lichen
2 yes
rough stirrup
@woven root @grizzled lichen thank you to both of you
grizzled lichen
Np 
drowsy perch
best app for do skin on iPhone?
woven root
Read pinned message in #avatar-ideas
woven root
Because you are not friends or it's just a bug or it's just joker
safe dust
I think it's a joke because he's not going to offer you a skin just because you put a reaction
inner granite
@woven root Wasn't there 24 hours of waiting time in between?
vernal oyster
I dont think there is a waiting time, I've gifted someone right after adding them
static furnace
Is it good to reveal yourself as mayor first day?
vernal oyster
It's not bad, but it's definately better to save it
In sb: wait till someone else claims rv for example
unborn quarry
what is the fastest way to get coins besides paying?
woven root
Spinning the wheel, battle pass and lootboxes
safe dust
I think the best thing is to turn the wheel
woven root
At the moment it is
upbeat falcon
where can i submit a role for devs to see?
woven root
You can send it to a mini mod+ and they will put it in the vote if everyone agree with them
vernal oyster
you can post it in #role-ideas-readonly for feedback, and ping a staff member or message them the role when you think its done
static furnace
Is that where the berserker werewolf came from
woven root
Berserker is a role from the tournament
static furnace
Ooo
static furnace
Is spirit seer fixed
static furnace
Does the spirit seer check if marksman has killed or jailer has killed?
vernal oyster
yes it includes good kills
vernal oyster
it's not a ww finder, it's a kill finder :) If ww's didnt succeed their kill they will be blue
Yeah it doesnt work on zombies/sect, or even corruptor (since he does not kill at night)
static furnace
Even corruptor? Didnt know that
vernal oyster
I've seen it blue on corruptor but im not 100% sure if they actually glitched someone that day
woven root
Also glitching is not killing..
static furnace
Unlike granny you dont know who is glitched?
static furnace
So corruptor is basically an evil granny?
woven root
No
People can use their ability when granny mute them
People can't vote/talk that day when they got muted
fluid pelican
They can try
woven root
Corrupted people can't vote/talk and use their ability at day if it's possible to use them at day. Furthermore you can't see who got corrupted and the corrupted person can't do anything until they die
fluid pelican
You'll see "..."
woven root
^ When granny mutes you
static furnace
And even their death is a mystery only medium can know their role
woven root
Medium can't revive this persons
static furnace
But medium can ask who are the ? Roles
woven root
That's true
woven root
Yes it will
proper willow
Did not know that....Poor bh lose bcs noone in village knew that lol
vernal oyster
Yup good kills show too, including jailer, bh, witch and mm, and it was recenrly tested that if a mm shoots a villager and dies, even that villager will count as a killer ^^
hard bay
Wolf seer doesn't count as kill because he doesn't vote right?
And also, if a ww didn't vote for the person that got killed by them in the end, do they get marked as a kill by the spirit seer?
proper willow
I think it counts....Ss said Im evil althought I just see someone
woven root
No it doesn't count for the wolf seer
And the ww who didn't voted will shown with a good flame
vernal oyster
I am not convinced about the voting part tbh
woven root
Well some people said it doesn't count
vernal oyster
Well I have seen people say it, but also to opposite thing is said so Im not sure atm
vast frigate
I played like 5 games as ss and i was always shown as blue when not voting or saw non voting wws as blue so i am pretty convinced by what i experienced with my own eyes
Also when checking the same person twice to be sure that they are evil they once showed up as red and once as blue
I thought it was a bug but a conversation with them showed, that he didnt vote the night he showed up blue
vernal oyster
It could also be caused by unsuccesful kills but yeah I will keep it in mind
unique rover
@vernal oyster @vast frigate maybe you should suggest it as a test for WWOTC ;)
vernal oyster
I already did an amazing mm-test suggestion if I say so myself 😏
These would be basic spirit seer tests do we need to suggest that?
unique rover
@vernal oyster time to do an other amazing suggestion 😏
Yes, maybe "when exactly is the flame red"
drowsy perch
Hi how can I get the items connected with instagram? There is someone I've got to tag or do I just have to put a random pic of WWO?
spiral merlin
Just a random pic about WWO (but make sure that pic with an accordant content)
frosty imp
@drowsy perch You have to make a post on Instagram regarding WWO, when it gets enough 👍, you can contact a Moderator to claim your rewards, 50 likes-> Camera, 250 likes-> Spotlights, and 500 likes you can get your epic Instagram badge ^^
rotund dagger
Is it allowed to make a player vote another player by giving them a rose?
frosty imp
@rotund dagger No, rose bribing someone to get him to vote with you is against the rules, and reportable ^^
rotund dagger
So do I need to report myself?!?!?
vernal oyster
No you dont but just dont do it again :/
rotund dagger
It's a joke...
neat bolt
how do ranks work
woven venture
I have 2 questions.
Q1: If we spend 1.2k coins for the season pass, do we get everything we unlock for it?
Q2: Do we have to spend another 1.2k coins for the season pass next season?
fluid pelican
@neat bolt Ranks works on the discord activity, when you talk you gain experience. Go in #bot-commands and type !rank to see your currently rank ^^
vernal oyster
you get all the itmes you unlock, and can unlock more by gaining xp or paying 200 coins per tier extra
1200 coins is only for this bp, the next one will have to be bought again
neat bolt
its part of the rules right?
fluid pelican
No ^^'
vernal oyster
In questions, everyone is allowed to answer
neat bolt
ooh
woven venture
Okay, thank you!
static furnace
Anyone here figured out a decent language system for muted people?
Like ... Twice if good
Or say ... If target is bad
umbral nacelle
@static furnace Hello, I suggested that muted people (by grumpy grandma) cannot say anything at all, not even the "...", precisely to avoid that
vernal oyster
It would really be threading the rules to do that
static furnace
Doesnt corrupted people not say anything at all?
frosty imp
Agreed, would be the same as emote code, or something like "I'll send a rose if target is bad"
fading zenith
Yeah exactly the same as rose giving issue that happened before
static furnace
Rose code as red lady bad. But is it ok if you tell who you will visit the day before?
fluid pelican
You can't use rose code
vernal oyster
RL saying who she visits is ok since saying it out loud can make wws attack who she visits and kill them both
fluid pelican
It's against the rules
fading zenith
I think the rose code doesn't work anymore
fading zenith
Only you and the player that sends/receive can see
vale python
15-16 dressed similar to each other and it’s obviously that 15 is ww but 16 decided to team up and didn’t vote for 15. I thought 15-16 were couple but they are not. 4-15 coupled and even 15 say yes when I said they’re team up. Is this gonna be enough to get them ban
Love my first game of the day
woven root
you can report both and the guardians can decide if they ban them or not
vernal oyster
if you reported them ingame it sounds like there was proof enough for a ban yes
hazy vigil
is the rose wheel available yet?
heady cypress
Nope
proper willow
Where can I find "golden wheel"?
heady cypress
Currently unavailable atm
proper willow
Ohhh I saw it on inst. And thought its already ingame
drowsy perch
Guys i have a question will season 9 battlepass be cheaper? Pls say yes
If u answer this question please tag me or else i wont see it
lusty mountain
Is golden wheel avabile
heady cypress
nope
ooooor there was an update and i didn't know about that
what's your version? @lusty mountain
wicked bloom
Hey so was the update I just got a mistake ? Because it includes the rose wheel
lusty mountain
How get there
wicked bloom
Secret
lusty mountain
Sad
heady cypress
⏫
wicked bloom
Play the game, kid. Explore
lusty mountain
K
wicked bloom
Were we not supposed to get this update yet?
heady cypress
idk
woven root
You got a normal update by google probably, right?
woven root
Then i believe it should be this
woven root
We donn't know
wicked bloom
Ah I see, okay
woven root
depends on google and which device you have
arctic raven
How i can get permisson for the #social-media-ideas?
woven root
Just talk in #wov-chat or #off-topic
arctic raven
Ok
Thx
hidden horizon
Hi
I was wondering why some of the players in my friend list have a red dot beside their name instead of a green (online) one?
woven root
It's the "do not disturb" mode
hidden horizon
Oh 😂
woven root
You can't invite people who has this red dot
hidden horizon
Where do u set this mode then? 🤔
spiral merlin
Your profile
hidden horizon
Nice 😆
woven root
In your friend list or in your profile
hidden horizon
🤗 thanks and have a good day all
woven root
gritty island
How do I change player icon?
woven root
Inventory -> Items -> Icons -> Select a new icon
drowsy perch
gritty island
Oo thx
woven root
When you shoot random as gunner that means random killing. You can ask a guardian above in the list if he can unban you
Did seer/medium/aura or anyone else said you should shoot that person?
Then it's teaming if he told you this per call and not in the game
And the people can report you for random shooting
You can't use information which are not from the game
The aura needs to say it before you shoot
The aura and not you
woven root
@lusty mountain For some devices yes
lusty mountain
Like which
lusty mountain
On google ?
woven root
@pale lagoon Stick to the rules. If you shoot random because you teamed with someone then they can report you.
@lusty mountain Google runs the updates
lusty mountain
K
woven root
And stay nice ^^
@lusty mountain I would say check your device and everything will be fine
@drowsy perch
@drowsy perch
balmy yewBOT
stellone27#4367 has been muted
woven root
Thank you very much
drowsy perch
Thanks for reporting
lusty mountain
Wth is wrong with him
woven root
Can you also delete the messages from him?
woven root
@lusty mountain Just wait and look in a few hours again. Sometimes new updates are out for different phones in different times
lusty mountain
Ok
woven root
Don't worry. You will get the new update as soon as possible
dusty forum
little question, Why can I send ig 300+ roses but in my inventory I can't spend the roses I can give to people in the game (so I can't spend 300+ roses
woven root
What do you mean?
dusty forum
If I'm in game, and I click on the roses. Then I can give roses to people in the game (I can give 300+ roses) but If I open my inventory, I can't spend 300+ roses
drowsy perch
I thought there was a minimum level/ games played to enter sandbox. Did that change suddenly because im seeing lobbies with level 2s and 3s all day
frank adder
@dusty forum they are separate the roses you have to give and have
woven root
@drowsy perch There is a win minimum for ranked but not a level minimum for sandbox
dusty forum
Oh okay
drowsy perch
when is the update?
woven root
for some devices the new update is out but not for everyone just check your phone if there is a new one
woven root
You can get the Insta badge when you have 500 likes on your insta post
mild anvil
Did you dm a Moderator ?
hazy vigil
why are the new quests all old outfits?
woven root
the first one is a new one
woven root
it didn't saw this before
hazy vigil
woven root
Maybe from shuffeling
hazy vigil
I saw it from the notification and the leaders confirmed they weren't shuffled
fiery bloom
@drowsy perch should the last pinned message in here not be removed? Since the bug is fixed right?
drowsy perch
@fiery bloom what you mean? I can't find bug in pinned messages?
fiery bloom
The quick game rotation bug @drowsy perch
drowsy perch
@fiery bloom oh nvm i'm sleepy it is first one. So do it works now?
fiery bloom
I heard it did, but not 100% sure
drowsy perch
mini mod can give badge?
But i'd say let it be here a bit . Because we can't be 100% sure @fiery bloom
@drowsy perch nope you should dm mod about it
fiery bloom
Okay, that’s alright
drowsy perch
okok
wicked steppe
How do I report sexual harassment from a player that sent it in a message?
umbral nacelle
@wicked steppe Hello, report it in the game, take a screenshot of the offending messages and DM a guardian about it on Discord (list below)
drowsy perch
wicked steppe
Thank you
umbral nacelle
You are welcome 
wicked bloom
Where is the link for this server
proven drum
You can use discord.gg/wwo to invite your friends
wicked bloom
Thx lol I didnt know it was a custom link
proven drum
Dont worry
lusty mountain
When the update come in estonia ?
mild anvil
We don't know but very soon
safe dust
If you have any questions feel free to ask them here
valid mirage
when will Version 34.20 be available for all devices? My friend has a LG G6 and she has the update, with the Gold Wheel you pay 25 roses per spin, and I have Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime but no update so far
woven root
I believe everyone will.have this version as soon as possible. It mostly depends on the device which do you have and how long it takes for google/ios to run it and make it comparable for this phone. Just check after an amount of hours if there is a new update for wwo. Sometimes this can took hours or days. Just be patient
valid mirage
ok, wasnt sure if a technical hiccup or just delay for some devices. okay, thanks
woven root
Don't worry and no problem
round robin
Is there a place where I can talk about cheaters? I was in this game and this guy joined with 4 identical accounts, they all said the same thing at the same time etc. I reported the accounts, but I also have a screenshot.
woven root
You can't do anything against them except reporting. It's not an emergency, so it's not needed to talk with a guardian about it. I'm sorry for the inconvience but you already did everything right ❤
river vortex
I NEED HELP 😦
when i play a game and i was the body guard and nobody die in beginning and 3 the seer say 11 is cursed and 11 say they report 3 for saying her role and we like why report and then somebody say nobody die so she might have turn and we all vote her off and she say she going to report us all and i die and she said she reported us all for voting her off and i reported her for false reporting me and others reported 11 for false reporting us and she said we voted off a good person on purpose for no reason but we had a reason and we say our reason and she said that was not reason and reported us saying we will be in trouble and i do not want to be in trouble i just started i have screenshot of conversation and i do not want the others in trouble because we vote her because nobody die day 1 and thought curse turn
please i do not want be ban 😦
crystal anchor
@river vortex first: it's pretty confusing xD but I think I get what you mean. Basically false reporting is not good. I understand her point of view, but she overreacted to be honest. You won't get a direct ban if you get just one report (if it's nothing really bad ofc)
The guardians will check reports and if you get banned you can contact them. Don't worry too much 
crystal anchor
Don't worry too much about it ^^
river vortex
will it be on my record?
crystal anchor
If you are not banned, be happy xD nobody is completely clean from reports.
river vortex
so i okay yeah? 😄
crystal anchor
If you don't act against the rules I think ye
river vortex
ok thank you mister hyde 😄
crystal anchor
You're welcome
vast frigate
mister 
wide bridge
Any approximate on when my bug that was out on the #bugs-devs channel will be fixed
Bc i dont have money to buy coins and i wanna play ranked
*approximate date
*put
drowsy perch
SAAAAAD :c
Ok, this is not working
I need attention :c
HEY, HELLO, IM A PERSON WHO'S SAD, CAUSE EVERYONE IS IGNORING ME >:v
@drowsy perch what do you mean, “actualize”?
Yeees, finally :')
Well, sorry
@drowsy perch she means updating the game
I mean, so many of my friends has the option of the new actualization of the game, but, it doesn't show me anything
What update are you currently on? Some devices get updates later than others ^^
@drowsy perch te pregunta que versión tenes
spiral merlin
English here
drowsy perch
^^ they’re fine :)
@spiral merlin sorry she is a bit confused with English so im translating it on spanish
spiral merlin
Ah ok
drowsy perch
0.34.19 thats the old one
Im not confused, im tired >:v
xD
You’re most likely up to date with your device, meaning you’ll get the update a little later :)
unique vortex
Tired and angry @drowsy perch
drowsy perch
Oh, well, just need to wait :c
unique vortex
X2
drowsy perch
I suggest not conversing too much here now ^^
Thks for answer meeee @spiral merlin @drowsy perch
no problem ❤
I felt ignored :')
Love u both ❤❤
I suggest not talking too much here now ^^
unique vortex
UoU
pseudo grove
🤔
jade garden
told u Pecas :v
drowsy perch
No v:
frosty imp
@drowsy perch Uhm, being sad about is not a good reason to discuss your ban, if you stacked up to 12 reports and got Guardians check and ban you, there must be a reason, please stick to the rules ^^
limpid stump
How many messages are in the current discord?
spiral merlin
6635560 messages i can check
idle echo
Ok so how exactly do I access the rose wheel?
drowsy perch
It's not available yet
idle echo
Oooooooh. Boy do I feel stupid
idle echo
🧐😓
spiral merlin
some devices have the new update but some later
drowsy perch
Ow sorry then 👀
idle echo
Thx let me check them
spiral merlin
it's not hard, so good luck
idle echo
Awesome thanks
fluid pelican
???
woven root
The rose wheel is a confirmed secret :/
empty surge
Why is my role Werewolf [3]??
drowsy perch
empty surge
Uh, ok?
drowsy perch
hollow stratus
It's your MEE6 rank
hollow stratus
The developers 😂
fluid pelican
They cheat xD
woven root
Sharon gave Philipp president. The highest Rank has currently Jan with Level 81
empty surge
Cool
glad sinew
Has the update not come out for anyone else? :|
drowsy perch
Somebody gets updates later, somebody earlier
glad sinew
I guess, just too excited 😂
drowsy perch
Just be patient 
verbal dew
Hey. I was werewolf in a game, and during the first day, the avenger just said all our numbers. He was probably teaming with another werewolf or idk, but we obviously lost because of that. Is it worth reporting to a guardian (i have screenshots), or is it enough if we reported him in-game?
Because it sure is a serious gamethrowing
drowsy perch
In urgent cases you can contact a guardian but I think that this is enough to be reported in game
verbal dew
Okay thank you
drowsy perch
Np 
spiral merlin
@glad sinew what OS you use? I can help if it’s adr
brazen badge
Who can I text from mods to ask something about my ban?
drowsy perch
woven root
You can contact guardians in the dms. Just click on a blue name in the list above and ask him if he can unban you. @brazen badge
spiral merlin
@glad sinew check my mess
grizzled lichen
Is xp farming legal? In custom games
crystal anchor
You shouldn't farm XP in custom game
brazen badge
I dont get xp from custom games?
woven root
You can get after 5 minutes playing in a custom round xp
woven root
Where is the golden wheel?
The golden wheel is a confirmed secret. So we can't say how to get it and what will in it. Revealing an easter egg is a no go for everyone so let's try to find it by yourself.
Well, don't say it's not an easter egg. This wheel is hidden and you need to find it like all the other secrets too.
Hint: You can only get the rose wheel in version 0.34.20 or higher
Is it possible to pin this?
drowsy perch
it would be great
woven root
@somber pewter Pin pin please
woven root
Thankuuu
warm oyster
Who is helper manager?
pseudo grove
That would be Moderators 🤔
somber pewter
Mod +
woven root
Ahh thanks
pseudo grove
Btw Is the bee wheel called Golden Wheel?
woven root
Yea
pseudo grove
Is that the official name?
woven root
The official name is Golden Wheel
drowsy perch
I'd say golden wheel aka rose wheel
woven root
Yea
pseudo grove
Ok I'll make a wiki (if it doesn't exist)
warm oyster
Wiki exists isnt it?
woven root
Yes
pseudo grove
Yes it is exists
woven root
The wwo wiki exists in different languages
warm oyster
O.o i just need english but nicee
woven root
I can give you the link if you want to
pseudo grove
(Actually English and Dutch)
drowsy perch
woven root
(English, Dutch, french, Thai, German, etc..)
pseudo grove
Wiki doesn't exist in Thai
pseudo grove
LimeInABush need to add inter link
safe dust
https://werewolf-online.fandom.com/wiki/Werewolf_Online_Wiki @somber pewter
safe dust
@woven root I had put it before but it was deleted by the bot so the I test so that the next few times I can
woven root
Don't worry
pseudo grove
Maybe permanently approve the wiki link?
somber pewter
It's perm approved 😛
safe dust
Cool!
pseudo grove
Nice
warm oyster
How can i be trial helper?
drowsy perch
Apply and if you have a good application, you'll be chosen
stuck snow
The applications are in #community-announcements by the way 
warm oyster
Hehehe ||i know that but i wanted to xonfirm and see your answers hehehe|| i ve already applyed (if that word exist...applyed...)
drowsy perch
Applied*
And np haha
warm oyster
Ok
stone brook
hello is there an update to fix the offline bug
stuck snow
Not yet @stone brook, but soon...
stone brook
ok thanks
woven root
Because it's maybe an insult in a different language than English
fluid jetty
Ah I see
tiny dragon
agot, bc similiar to faggot
static furnace
Who do you guys protect as doctor on the very first night with no info?
tiny dragon
random
static furnace
Like is there a statistic where people in the middle die the most. Or people on the corners?
fluid jetty
I target people with fancy clothing
static furnace
Noted
fluid jetty
and protect people who look generic(That's only me)
but most people are attracted to fancy cosmetics(Mostly bad attention)
static furnace
Roger
Time to look bland and ugly
Is randomming or accusing someone with the help of logic and process of elimination allowed even if ur not seer?
dull garden
Hi, my werewolf game hasn't been updated yet? I still don't have a flower circle.😥
woven root
The update will be out for everyone as soon as possible. Just check your phone if there is an update. If it's not one there just be patient and check it after some time 
noble monolith
Can there be a new gamemode. With 1 feature if you say a role like werewolf it will be displayed as ***. To stop rolecalling
static furnace
1 is warewolf
spiral merlin
but if seer said that?
static furnace
1 is w3r3w0l4
spiral merlin
=)) yes, this problem is hard to solve
noble monolith
Only seer can say roles
spiral merlin
my opinion above 👆
static furnace
If you want to stop rolecalling. Your only hope is grandma or corruptor
woven root
@noble monolith New gamemodes has been suggested before but the devs decided to not add new gamemodes at the moment
pseudo grove
How do you get pirate costume?
proven drum
It is the second daily reward that you get (after the super hero costumes)
pseudo grove
Hmm ty
Wiki edit time!
proven drum
drowsy perch
How do you get codes?
crystal anchor
@drowsy perch for what exactly?
drowsy perch
Redeeming codes
Theres a section for that in game
Is it only for devs?
I'm guessing the codes give you coins
drowsy perch
Oh ok
mild anvil
But they're mostly used for discord shirt and tester hat
?tester hat and ?discord shirt in #bot-commands
vernal oyster
Not just the devs, if you win a prize in a tournament or giveaway for example, it will be in the form of a code as well ^-^
pale spear
Are there werewolf tournaments?
mild anvil
Nop, at least not official ones yet
drowsy perch
@somber pewter
somber pewter
Hey how can I help you?
drowsy perch
Can you read in private chat?
somber pewter
Sure will do it asap
drowsy perch
Thank you
mild anvil
Psst next time just wait for her to see or send another message :3 no need to ping her here
drowsy perch
How to get golden wheel
quartz lily
Hey guys how do you get this cat? 
woven root
Read pinned message
quartz lily
Wait what golden wheel
frank adder
@woven root which version is the wheel in btw ?
woven root
@frank adder 0.34.20
frank adder
Ok thx
woven root
@quartz lily The cat is part of the golden wheel
@drowsy perch Read pinned message. It's a secret
mild anvil
Read pinned messages
woven root
Secret
drowsy perch
I dont understands secetttt
woven root
We can't say it
drowsy perch
Who can say it
mild anvil
We can't tell you, that's the point of a secret 👀 listen to Duden
Nobody
You have to find it yourself
woven root
It was a special offer. I believe you can get it random in the shop
fathom narwhal
Dragonball as in the anime?
woven root
A skin inspired by dragonball
fathom narwhal
Ah
crystal anchor
This would probably be copyrighted ^^
drowsy perch
@moonnoon say the secret?
woven root
When did he said it?
crystal anchor
No they won't tell u ^^
jade herald
who choose the names of the roles in game ?
jade herald
make it better next time
woven root
which role?
jade herald
new one
pseudo grove
What new one?
woven root
Also the translator can decide how they will translate it
jade herald
the new roles i mean
glossy meteor
Is okay if i report someone said " rose for rose " But he never give back ?
woven root
it's rose scamming and against the rules
mild anvil
It is a rose wheel's reward
mild anvil
You don't understand I think ^^
brittle turtle
Yes
mild anvil
Are you on 0.34.20 ?
brittle turtle
0 34 19
mild anvil
Ok then when you'll update to 0.34.20, you'll see a new Easter egg, a new wheel, where you can have that grave (+ a few other thing 😏)
mild anvil
Just wait ^^
brittle turtle
^^
oak wasp
Will ofline receive any new roles?
mild anvil
What do you mean ?
surreal solar
Werewolf Offline? Soon
mild anvil
Ohhh
drowsy perch
Aaaah Why i dont have the update
mild anvil
Wait a few days, it is rolling out
mild anvil
Don't worry you'll have it soon
frosty imp
@drowsy perch Are you an iOS user?
Usually it comes later than android cause apple needs to approve the update first
vernal oyster
Not all android users have it either, I got the beta tester mode in the playstore on and I dont have it yet... thats just how it goes, nothing to do about it but wait
frosty imp
well, maje answered right up anyway 👆
drowsy perch
Ik
final pendant
Hi, I downloaded The Cult app but the Ww game doesn’t give me the mask with 2 skeletons, what should I do?
graceful remnant
First, you need to enter your wwo in game name to the cult app.
Go to setting and find the claim free item if I'm not mistaken
spiral merlin
yes, that is and if anything goes wrong (like you claimed your username but havent received it) then you can contact howl@werewolf-apps mail to be helped
vernal oyster
The free version only gives you a skeleton mask item, the pro (paid) version is for the skeleton background.
crystal anchor
No but maybe I could help you?
drowsy perch
During an active game
crystal anchor
Hmmm okay I can't help you xD
drowsy perch
Lol ok thx anyway
crystal anchor
There is no dev online right now ^^
drowsy perch
Are they online often
icy gyro
Yes, often @drowsy perch
candid wave
Do we keep items that we won if the chief of the clan stop à quest at the day 5 for exemple?
woven root
yes
icy gyro
yes @candid wave
candid wave
Ok , thx
alpine storm
How to get
woven root
Look pinned message
pale spear
Once i said 'lol' and it showed me an advertisement. I was told not to swear anymore and that my activity had been reported. Should i do something if it happens again?
safe dust
No, you're not going to get banned from that and the guardian will see that you didn't do anything.
vernal oyster
^That's not fully correct information... The red warning does count as an automatic report, s after ultiple times it will lead to an automatic ban as well. But if you only saw it once it won't get you in trouble, it sometimes gets activated wrongfully.
signal root
What does 503: null stands for?
merry urchin
Server down? My connection is perfectly fine
thorn cypress
I can't enter on my profile anymore, how is it possible?
icy gyro
Server down @merry urchin
merry owl
If the servers down for long so want complete clan quests what happens?
gleaming laurel
Yep the severs are down right? Thought it was just me
Idk, hopefully wont be that long
merry owl
I think they should reward the quest items if that happens
gleaming laurel
They could be updating it hopefully idk
merry owl
Ye
mild anvil
We don't and can't know for the moment, sorry for the troubles
merry owl
:*(
mild anvil
#game-updates here is your answer
gleaming laurel
Sorry this is probably a dumb question but what it server on a strike mean?
mild anvil
I don't really know, I will ask
solemn ingot
Server restart ?
mild anvil
Maybe someone else can answer ^°^
gleaming laurel
Okay thank you
merry owl
:(
My clan quest item gone forever :(((
(Idk how clan quest fully works so if someone could explain what happens if u don't meet xp quota that'd be great)
gleaming laurel
It just restarts the next day
gleaming laurel
No
merry owl
Thank godd
gleaming laurel
U only loose the progress u done for the item u are working for now
merry urchin
and it’s very likely that they’re going to fix the problem soon (since they always do), so you should still have a bit of time left btw
merry owl
But I can still get the item
gleaming laurel
Yeah
merry owl
My clan inactive atm
merry urchin
the last few times it only took about 15-30 minutes to get it fixed, don’t worry ^^
gleaming laurel
You can earn the item again once the time runs out it will just reset the xp u got today for it
One new one comes in a week and two old ones
merry owl
Ahh
merry urchin
I can log into my account again, try to do it as well @merry owl 😃
merry owl
Will do
gleaming laurel
Oh yeah same 😃
merry owl
Yay thanks guys
gleaming laurel
Np
vernal oyster
@merry owl The quest is not ruined if you would be unable to complete one day.. you can re-do the days until it is completed, there is no real time pressure on it ^^
past glade
Hi, why can t I access to the new easter egg even with the last update?👀
vernal oyster
@gleaming laurel Just means the server was having issues, and didnt work, it was described in a funny way ^^
crystal anchor
The servers were down ^^ now they are back
vernal oyster
It was meant as a funny way of saying the servers are down
coral sage
hi, I would like to know why the prices of the wheel have been increased and the premiums have been reduced
fiery bloom
Devs probably changed their minds, but you can still get very cool items in there
vernal oyster
@lament wigeon Please mind your language and follow the rules. This is a friendly place and that doesnt help anyone.
coral sage
the fact is that this way you earn less, if you make a petition can you return as before?
lament wigeon
@vernal oyster the weight of my words comes from your competence
heady cypress
@lament wigeon doesn't matter. #rules-archived apply and you have to stay nice ^^
coral sage
I think it takes too long to get the idea approved in that section, what can I do to get the wheel back like before?
fiery bloom
@coral sage #feedback-readonly
vernal oyster
It was hotfixed for a reason, you cant change it back right now.
frank adder
Where is #become-a-translator
heady cypress
so far - nothing tbh it was decreased because too op
woven root
@coral sage As I can say it was fairly unfair for people who spend 50 roses before in it and now it's only 25. Anyways 25 roses is too cheap for such a good wheel. I don't believe they will change it back because it's too cheap then and everyone can grind gold then..
somber pewter
@frank adder Will be back 
😅
frank adder
Ok
coral sage
in fact, I think that a cost had to be established first for that wheel, not to go to experiments ... but now if you wanted to bring the wheel back to 25 roses you can make a petition?
drowsy perch
Viva l'italiaaaaaaa
woven root
The devs decided to increase the amount of roses and to decrease the gold. I believe they won't change their mind now
This wheel is not a place for grinding gold, tbh
drowsy perch
@drowsy perch do you have questions?🤔
glass jewel
Well no, but actually yes
drowsy perch
ehm no
Oh okay talk in #off-topic if you wanna talk about random things and #wov-chat if you wanna talk about game 
@drowsy perch
coral sage
is made on purpose to increase the gold otherwise would not have as a prize the gold ... lol okay what I want to know is where I can make a petition to bring back the wheel as before @woven root
woven root
@coral sage #feedback-readonly
drowsy perch
like all the others, I want the old wheel back, in my opinion 30 is an exaggerated price to turn a wheel that can give you at least 200 coins.
Oh if you have golden wheel the old wheel down?
drowsy perch
will the wheel with roses remain forever or is it only for a limited time?
vernal oyster
it will stay forever, it is written nowhere that it's limited, so its a permanent update ^^
drowsy perch
oh man :)))
how many outfits are there inside the wheel? could you send some photos?
heady cypress
3
drowsy perch
thank you
worn folio
Can someone sent me the corrupted icon without background maybe? Please :3
crystal anchor
Yes
worn folio
@drowsy perch wwo_outfits in Instagram posted all golden wheel outfits
crystal anchor
Don't worry 
woven root
worn folio
Thank youuu
quaint hornet
Is it gametrowing to tell the medium your couple's role if they died by corruption?
vernal oyster
Your couple died so it's not gamethrowing, since you cant win with that team anymore. But I think you can still win if the village wins? If so, then its probably not wrong to say your lover's role since it helps the village which is your team again
vernal oyster
There's a slight chance that would be helpful for the ww's, so also not really gamethrowing I guess. It wouldnt exactly hurt the village team either haha.
quaint hornet
Ok thx I just got confused by the random act of kindness haha
drowsy perch
Any devs on
woven root
@drowsy perch Philipp is only. Why?
drowsy perch
He made the game?
crystal anchor
@crude sage no there isn't since it's copyrighted
woven root
@crude sage Well, this would be copyright but some skins are anime inspired. Maybe there you can create a dragonball inspired skin then
@drowsy perch He did
crude sage
@woven rootok thanks
vague gate
The servers are down now?
vague gate
Nope
woven root
Maybe it's your connection?
vague gate
4g lol
spice panther
Someone else isnt getting xp?
fiery bloom
More people having it I see now
woven root
Yea
spice panther
Btw im also having 4g problems
woven root
Will be fixed asap
vague gate
Yes no xp because servers down
drowsy perch
what’s happened?
woven root
The servers were down some hours ago. They still can have some problems
spice panther
Oh ok
drowsy perch
okok
woven root
Just try it again until they are working perfectly
woven root
@atomic oyster They nerfed it
woven root
They increased the amount of roses and decreased the gold
atomic oyster
dang
crystal anchor
It looks like the servers have problems right now
vague gate
Lmao
crystal anchor
Pls be patient ^^ it will be fixed asap
brittle turtle
How can I get my account back If I forgot email and password
vague gate
You can't
lethal kelp
Really?
So some people losing their accounts because of the servers?
It's not their faults
drowsy perch
Hi there. With the server issues, will our accounts be restored or is there a chance the accounts will be gone?
brittle turtle
What If I bought items with my psc on my account? I remember password to my psc acc
If someone can check it
glass jewel
I can't log in to my account, it says the password is wrong but it isn't
vernal oyster
Just wait a bit till the servers are working again, you might be automatically connected to your accounts again.
drowsy perch
@glass jewel server issues
vague gate
Servers
glass jewel
okay I'll try later I guess ;-;
drowsy perch
So no chance we will lose our accounts?
upbeat falcon
how can you forget email and password ?
brittle turtle
I thought I will play this game like 2 hours when I was making it
drowsy perch
am i banned 🥺
brittle turtle
Or maybe i missclicked something and now my password is wrong
upbeat falcon
connect it to facebook and its easy fix
fiery bloom
@drowsy perch no, the servers are down atm sorry for the inconvenience
vague gate
drowsy perch
I though I’m banned
vague gate
@brittle turtle
vernal oyster
if youre banned you could still log in to your account, as banning only affects the ability to play 😅
drowsy perch
Oh I've just noticed I have the role of junior werewolf on this server. What is that about?
fiery bloom
No, servers are just having trouble , and you will probably be logged in automatically when servers are up again
vernal oyster
thats just fun bot roles from chatting, Jasmin
drowsy perch
Thank you @fiery bloom
fiery bloom
No problem, I’m just repeating what helpers said 😅
brittle turtle
Ye
fiery bloom
@brittle turtle normally it’s just your mail password (that’s what I have atleast) and otherwise use “forgot password” yeah
drowsy perch
what is when I forgot my email 🥺