@ripe stirrup Hey, I will contact Lisa for this issue. Thank you for reporting it!
#feedback-readonly
normal wyvern
quaint bramble
Boosting is gamethrowing, always has been.
The rules have only gotte more clear and there is at least 3 different sections that confirm things done in boost games are against those rules
normal wyvern
@modest arrow Hey, this has been suggested before and was planned regarding to social media stories in May. We will see when and how it will be impletend. Thank you for your suggestion!
autumn fog
Boosting is gamethrowing, always has been.
The rules have only gotte more clear and there is at least 3 different sections that confirm things done in boost games are against those rules
@quaint bramble for that, I've just suggested this: #feedback-readonly message
Both forbidden or both tolerated.
I mean, it would be fine if are players to decide what's better.
quaint bramble
tolerated is a better word than allowed, but its still not exactly right. It's forbidden, everything boosters do in those games is in the rules as not allowed. agreeing on it doesnt make it not gamethrow, if they use non-custom games.
we knew it was happening, but it was hard to stop it... it's technically never been allowed
i know the defnitions of boost/grind/farm get mixed up and used differently sometimes, but boosting always refers to illegal activity, while farming does not
autumn fog
The only true thing is that's an hard argument to talk about. 😂
normal wyvern
@outer rune Hey hey, the actually priority is:
Sect > Couple > Origin Team
At all this is not really clear, so I will redirect it to Lisa to make it a bit clearer. Thank you for your suggestion ❤️
outer rune
@outer rune Hey hey, the actually priority is:
Sect > Couple > Origin TeamAt all this is not really clear, so I will redirect it to Lisa to make it a bit clearer. Thank you for your suggestion ❤️
@normal wyvern yes that is written in the greyzone but its written like a rule.... i suggest to write this in the rules and not in the FAQs
quaint bramble
The only true thing is that's an hard argument to talk about. 😂
@autumn fog Is it though? No is no 🤔
Boosting is not the same as any regular custom game with xp
if the custom xp game is played by the rules its not a boosting game and it should be fine
autumn fog
if the custom xp game is played by the rules its not a boosting game and it should be fine
@quaint bramble ohh, alright! So, is it fine to make video about that too?
hoary sierra
why not put on werewolf a trading method? also exchange coins for objects, or object for money or objects for objects (eg rocket league) in my opinion this thing would make the community a little more active
autumn fog
Add the possibility for custom games's host to add a description that's fixed up to the chat when whoever joins the lobby.
@hoary sierra don't ping mods, they will read and answer all feedbacks, be patient.
hoary sierra
oh sorry, I already see the rules
autumn fog
Don't worry ^^
hoary sierra
anyway what do you think of my idea?
autumn fog
anyway what do you think of my idea?
@hoary sierra imo something similar has been already suggested, but it's not a bad idea.
hoary sierra
@autumn fog bruh sono italiano
autumn fog
@autumn fog bruh sono italiano
@hoary sierra don't talk in other languages that aren't english here. If you want to talk in italian, visit #italian channel.
magic wigeon
why does bomber still work if i still trapped day 4 that's nonsense. usually the bomb on me fail. its like arso,illu,bandit can successfully mark protected once
ones*
quaint bramble
@hoary sierra heya which things should be tradable exactly?
And such systems should always need restrictions, like you should not be able to switch outfits with friends without limits, because it discourages buying things
@magic wigeon I dont really understand what you mean? trapped? mark?
magic wigeon
i was beast hunter and trapped myself. night 3 i got the message i got attacked the enemy was to strong and died due bomb night 4 thats actually nonsense. rk shouldn't be able to pierce through defence @quaint bramble
quaint bramble
the bomber disabled your trap, i dont believe the bomb should b place on you in the same night
are you sure it was not night 3 disable, nght 4 bomb placed and nigt explode?
brisk steeple
I want this thing back.
snow meadow
dreamy stag
I want this thing back.
i second this
normal wyvern
@brisk steeple Hey, looks like a good suggestion for especially new players to try out some games. I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion!
peak geode
Add a New Currency during Special Occasions
(In this post, I will refer to them as "occasional currencies")
I have seen this a lot in other games I play. For example, during Halloween, we can have candy 🍬 currency, while in Christmas, we can have christmas ball or christmas sock currency. (They are different from roses or coins because they are not present all-year-round).
Function: Just like roses, we need to have to receive it from another player in order to use it in the shop. It can be used to buy items in the shop that have themes that are related to the occasion (the limited items in the shop during occasions). The said items can be purchased only by the occasional currency and not by roses or coins. This makes getting the items much more challenging compared to just buying them with coins and roses.
Obtainable via: The gold wheel or in loot boxes
Can be sent to other players via: Playing in-game or in lobby (like roses)
After the occasion: The occasional currency that you have received will be converted to coins (how much... 10 coins maybe? Or 15? Or 25 like roses?) While the occasional currency that you haven't yet sent will not be turned into anything or just disappear.
hushed blade
?hat
orchid kelp
We should be able to buy roses to give to other players with gems 
shut crown
You should do this:
If solo killer and 
or 
are last two players alive, then it's solo killers win. Cuz, it makes me angry, when I almost won as serial killer, but the avenger tagged me did not let me win.
brisk steeple
?hat
@hushed blade uh...
coarse mango
You can look at emojis that you didn't unlock is preview mode like you can look at outfits that you don't have
remote basalt
Why hello there
If Pacifist reveal a role there's no voting. I suggest you to remove the voting timer.
deft fjord
Please add this pack as a giftable item 😓😓
remote basalt
So no voting
wise vortex
@remote basalt but what if paci reveal when voting time? Gunner cant shoot if that bad role👀
coarse mango
but what if paci reveal when voting time? Gunner cant shoot if that bad role👀
@wise vortex i think u misunderstood his meaning
autumn fog
Remove the "Report" button in custom games or, at least, let the host choose if allow it or remove it from his game. I think that custom games are for fun or xp farms, so it would be fine letting players play by following the host's rules.
Why should you do that? Two things:
- Useless bans
- Guardians will have less work
pure flare
Force Update to remove snippets from everyone, because who have it plays with advantage against the new people who install the game recently. if the new version dont have it, everyone needs to play without the snippet
reef pewter
Add my snippet again.. samsung galaxy s8.
autumn fog
Force Update to remove snippets from everyone, because who have it plays with advantage against the new people who install the game recently. if the new version dont have it, everyone needs to play without the snippet
@pure flare the devs are testing the game with/without them. When they will feel that snippets are fine or have to be removed, they'll do an update.
tribal girder
@peak geode Hey! This sounds great, I will add it to #feedback-devs, thanks for suggesting!
@hushed blade, please follow the bot command after this message
hearty lanternBOT
tribal girder
@orchid kelp hey! You can buy gold with gems and then buy from that gold roses, so no need for that! Thanks for suggesting anyways! 
@shut crown the solo killer role only wins if he is the only player alive so his win condition wouldn't be fulfilled if you let him win when someone is still alive, even if this person is the avanger or jww. Thanks for suggesting anyways! 
@coarse mango I couldn't find something similar, I'll post it in#feedback-devs thanks for suggesting!
reef pewter
@tribal girder but sk vs jailer, its instant sk win
tribal girder
Yeah, cause it's an automatic tie, jailer just jail sk for ever so yeah...
tribal girder
He can't kill him in anyway, jww and avanger can
reef pewter
Add the same thing to sk vs jww
Oh ok
@tribal girder but if jailer have 1 bullet
They should leave it till the end
tribal girder
The question is, when does the jailer have a bullet till the end left?
@remote basalt, as @wise vortex already said, what if paci reveals and voting time gets skipped so gunner can't shoot if a bad player is revealed. Thanks for suggesting anyways!
@deft fjord so you suggest to add the starter packs as gifts?
storm scroll
I dont know why in my setting, it doesnt have the notification .-. So I dont know when my friends invited me. Many my friends get in this trouble. Can anyone fix this bug?
deft fjord
@tribal girder yes please, i want to gift my friend that starter pack
tribal girder
@autumn fog that might be a good idea but can also lead to game throwing, insults and other things. If you don't want to be reported by others cause of gamethrow you should tell every player what you wanna do and make them agree to that, thanks for suggesting anyways!
@pure flare @reef pewter as zGioele already answered, the devs are right now testing how it is to play with or without snippets and then choose what they think is the best way for everybody, thanks for suggesting anyways!
@autumn fog hey! Please don't answer things in feedback or similar, only staff members are allowed to answer! Thanks for helping but please don't do that again!
@storm scroll hey! It's a known bug, please send things like that in #bugs-readonly next time, thanks for reporting!
autumn fog
@autumn fog that might be a good idea but can also lead to game throwing, insults and other things. If you don't want to be reported by others cause of gamethrow you should tell every player what you wanna do and make them agree to that, thanks for suggesting anyways!
@tribal girder when you join an xp farm in custom games, you automatically agree about everything you are going to do. Some staff members told me that this isn't allowed but "tolerated", so I see no reasons why there has to be a report button. In my own game, I want my rules. In my game I want people to gamethrow because it's an important thing
Why should ppl follow game's rules in my own game?
Example: this situation seems like if I go to someone's house and I start to create my rules there as if I am the owner.
This cause a lot of confusion and useless bans since there are some people that joins those kind of games only to report for fun. And paradoxically they are right, so guardians ban everyone.
tribal girder
- If you play this game you automatically agree with all the rules the game sets.
- As you said it's only tolerated not allowed, if we remove the report button we somehow allow to gamethrow and also as I said, everybody in the game need to agree to that (also I am confused how these xp farms work since xp are only for balanced costum games)
autumn fog
- If you play this game you automatically agree with all the rules the game sets.
- As you said it's only tolerated not allowed, if we remove the report button we somehow allow to gamethrow and also as I said, everybody in the game need to agree to that (also I am confused how these xp farms work since xp are only for balanced costum games)
@tribal girder the no-sense problem is the following: "if you do them it's fine, but if we see you, you get banned".
tribal girder
@deft fjord it was already suggested! You can vote for it here:
Thanks for suggesting anyways!
autumn fog
@tribal girder the no-sense problem is the following: "if you do them it's fine, but if we see you, you get banned".
@autumn fog anyway, if it's allowed, I can explain you in DMs how those kind of new xp farms work.
tribal girder
@autumn fog as I said, they are tolerated not allowed. If only one person is against it it is against the rules and will get banned.
autumn fog
@autumn fog as I said, they are tolerated not allowed. If only one person is against it it is against the rules and will get banned.
@tribal girder yeah but the problem is when someone joins and do a single report. In that case, everyone is supposed to get banned. Why should someone join an xp farm if he doesn't agree with them? As I said, this is no sense. But they can still do that.
Yes, you automatically agree by joining those games, but you can still report. 1 report = everyone gets banned.
orchid kelp
The light blue hair from the current battle pass is not compatible
Also the pink hair for male and female from the current battle pass
reef pewter
@tribal girder why Some people have the snippet?
tribal girder
@reef pewter It is because of an update. As you know there were snippets but since the newest update they been removed to test how it is without snippets. If you have the old version you still have it, if you updated it they are gone
tribal girder
@orchid kelp thanks for reporting, but that's a known issue
zenith venture
hey guys so.. i've played wwo for like months now it's my daily play before sleep, and play when i wake up routine as i've nothing going on at these hours.
my biggest complaints, or feedback would be that I feel the games can be pretty boring at times, i loved the rotation we had where you were either a serial killer, or cannibal, as in, each game had a chance of different roles, just like how you either get a fool or headhunter.
2nd issue I see often is that the rapidly users leaving games immediately when they do not like their roles.
since this isn't meant to be complaints issues, but feedback, here are my solutions for at least how I would address it.
i had love the following changes: 1x random villager, 1x random werewolf 1x random solo killer.
whether its arsonist, serial killer, corrupter, shouldn't be a fixated thing as they are alone, this would make a little twist every game.
to address the people constantly leaving games, i'm aware that you put a temp ban on 10mins, watch ads for 3mins reduction etc, but what if we had a priority queue. it will take longer to join, but if someone leaves without finishing a game, they can't join this specific queue for like 12 hours. So it would be a queue where people wouldn't just leave.
so there would be the following 3 modes normal / priority / ranked
austere timber
suggestion: ability to hide your wwo level to others in your profile just like in ranked mode. cant hear "and with that level" just because i lost a game anymore. ppl do think that i cant make any faults because of my lv
what makes absolutely no sense
runic dragon
1 - When checking a friend's profile we should be able to know the date that we became friends
2 - Add tie stats on game stats
drowsy tulip
Hello, I've started playing since last year but I quit after like 2 months of playing and just came back. I don't see a lot of changes when I came back except for new roles so I would like to give some suggestions.
Outfit/skin naming.
I think each skin needs a name.
Friend note
Being able to add a note for every
friend helps to remember what was
their name, how we met, etc.
Character slots
I just think they are too expensive,
250 roses in gold is like 6250 golds.
"Free gold!" Background
I think the free gold wheel page
needs a better background than just
a grey background with some
patterns. Plus maybe move the
Spin/Watch Ad button to the
middle of the wheel so its easier to
click.
Seasonal background.
Yes, a different background for
different seasons like spring, fall,
winter, not just Halloween.
More skin colors.
Wider range of skin tones, plus the
extremes like red, green, or blue.
Skin improvement
I've seen some skins get a rework so
please continue doing this because
there are some skins that looks
really weird and can't be matched
with other skins, like eyes being too
big or too small and positioned in
the forehead, or mouth being too
small or too close to the nose. Also
some male hairs looks like they have
no volume, and most hats just
doesn't fit the head.
**+Alternative solution: Give players the ability to adjust size and positions of avatar items manually. **
Being able to switch avatar in game
lobby.
Being able to display nationality flag
on profile, maybe?
I guess thats all for now.
thorn plaza
Please fix this glitch.
weak sequoia
I have an idea for the game : a talisman exchange system
You can give someone a talisman and they give you one to you
vale gyro
@drowsy tulip What stops you from putting a flag in your profile description? Plus there are different seasonal backgrounds.
drowsy tulip
Oh there's one more.
In my opinion zombie is too strong, the wolves have no chance to win when there is zombie.
Maybe make the zombie die after 1-2 days (including the original zombie). So zomb-1 bite zomb-2, then zomb-1 dies. And the chain has to keep going or the zombie will lose.
vale gyro
Winter
drowsy tulip
@drowsy tulip What stops you from putting a flag in your profile description? Plus there are different seasonal backgrounds.
@vale gyro I mean yeah the flag isnt that necessary so i put a "maybe". And for the background its fall/winter now why is the background so green
vale gyro
Uh, in most countries you don't have snow yet plus calendar winter hasn't started yet either.
But as you can see it exists and will replace the green background in December.
hushed idol
Displaying a flag for nationality should only be optional if it is done since there are people who would like to keep their privacy
drowsy tulip
Displaying a flag for nationality should only be optional if it is done since there are people who would like to keep their privacy
@hushed idol yep the dev can add flag like the "?" flag from sandbox to be put in our profile.
It could be useful for people who wants to find friends from the same country but dont want to waste space in their bio
vale gyro
Useless honestly. If you want people to know have it as message in your profile, done.
carmine oar
"We"?
runic dragon
your not even good at it🤣
wise vortex
@runic dragon read pinned its feedback channel not complain channel
carmine oar
Who is "we"? Your middle school friends?
runic dragon
this dude sounds like WTFBandit
warm helm
@runic dragon lets stay polite and not give out account information
if you experienced a bug you can always report that in #bugs-readonly in a calm manner and with respect for other people who will help you out. there is no reason to use that many caps
runic dragon
“enjoy your stay at the continental”
warm helm
@runic dragon there is no need to jump in here, im handling this already 😉
runic dragon
yeah I’m cool with that
autumn fog
Since some ppl have already finished their battle passes and literally have nothing to do but clan quests, it could bring fun to have different things to do in the meantime we wait the new season:
Solution 1)
Expand the Battle Pass with 200-300 tiers (?)
Solution 2)
When you finish your Battle Pass, you will be able to do one old Battle Pass that you didn't do in time to buy/finish
Solution 3)
Add a singleplayer mega-quest with 1000+ levels where you have to farm xp to obtain outfit's pieces or something else like daily rewards.
carmine oar
Or daily Quests for example "Play 3 games. Reward: 100 Gold/3 roses/1 token" or something like that?? And maybe a streak for finishing all Quests (3) everyday and if you keep up the streak you get an item from a skin every 7 days or for example higher Rewards like 30 gems or maybe rose bouquets?
That doesn't sound really understandable 🧍
thorn plaza
Please fix this glitch.
@thorn plaza what must be done about this??
ember gate
Spooky werewolf server image outdated?
floral valley
heya @autumn fog!
Your first suggestion was declined since many players don't even reach tier 100 after 2 months. 200-300 tiers are to much for many players, thanks for the suggestion tho! The second was also declined beacause people who already have all old battle passes have nothing do then then That would be also a disadvantage for the players who can't finish the main battle pass since they can't even finish the "main" one and then they can't tyr to start an old one. your third suggestion was also declined since this would encourage people to boost since they need level 1000+ to get the outfits.
--> Overall all 3 suggestion were declined and it has its reasons. Thanks for the feedback and have a nice day! 😄
hewwo @carmine oar ! That was already suggested before and is up to the devs if they will add. Thanks for the feedback and have a great day!
@ember gate will redirect that thanks!
rich karma
please stop the new boosting farms in custom games. players like me just feel ripped off....
clever creek
Hello, I was playing and I wanted to try to infiltrate myself into werewolves. So I pointed out the question, "Are you really a werewolf?" Because there were suspicions about him. And I’ve been banished for trying to divulge his role while not. I’d like to know if you can unbane me.
I'm french so my english is bad sorry 😅
floral valley
Heya @rich karma ! I can really understand your point with boosting but the developers wanted to test custom xp games and I cannot do something about that. Since many players already complained about that I will redirect it to philipp and try my best to change it if possible. Thanks for sharing you concerns and have an amazing day
runic dragon
1 - When checking a friend's profile we should be able to know the date that we became friends
2 - Add tie stats on game stats
@runic dragon ^
shut herald
@runic dragon
Why repeat twice
Remove xp farms since you basically cheat to get achievements and xp
vale gyro
Please don't remove boost games.
Maybe first consider why they even exist to begin woth and try fixing the initial problem. The bp requires in total 74k Exp. Per qp/sandbox game etc you get like what? 160 Exp per WIN? Even if you only win that's like 463 wins for one bp and one game roughly takes 10 minutes. That's around 77h investment for one bp purely in games, NOT considering the 30s of adverts needed for doubling exp or q times. In general the exp gain is barely worth playing so people prefer farms because in any other game mode you'd waste way too many hours for basically nothing. Instead of removing farms maybe adjust the exp gain in general to make this game more manageable for people who don't exactly want to spend 77h+ on something. Gets even more frustrating because you can't really carry a team or do much when people throw.
floral heath
The BP although flawed by the XP system was designed to reward people who played the game actively. If you don’t play actively and just farm, you aren’t supposed to finish it unless you pay coins for unfinished tiers.
I agree that there should be some ways other than farm to be able to complete BP and Clan Quests faster but can they not clog up custom games? Makes it harder for actual custom gamemakers to stand out and people entering lobbies asking if its farm or not to the point where u have to put it in title to deter them.
The zombie farms were better in a sense that they never count towards WR, only XP. The current XP farms promote boosting which unlike XP farm is unfair and not tolerated as much by staff
vale gyro
Where's the difference actually?
I'm all in for not making cqs count or even remove the exp gain again. But then there should be at least some alternatives. As hundreds of people already suggested for years: a mode like sandbox but for high level players to keep new players out since they're the reason most games are so toxic and frustrating. It was denied again and again so cq games with high level requirements are the only option and I'd very much like to keep them or want another alternative when the exp gets removed again. 
shut wharf
Please add a new notification thing for "player requested to join" we have an invite only clan so one day there is no application at all and then there are 5 at once and I miss them out so it would be great if leaders and co-leaders are able to turn notification on for those things.
Another suggestion towards clans: an announcement channel. Where only co- and leaders can write something. For example "new quest will start on the 5.11." or "reminder to donate for upcoming quests" so if there is an active clan chat many members oversee such messages. I would make that channel between the clan info/description and clan chat and a red point on it when there has been posted something new, just like the clan chat. And also a notification feature for it.
And here comes my last suggestion: if you disable a player for quest you should be able to send a message just like when you kick someone.
sullen shell
This is more of a discord server suggestion than a wwo, but sometimes people just spam (or can spam) the ?h commands, and as the bot automatically deletes the message its really easy to spam and leave. I suggest a really easy thing to add (literally one line of code), that is a footer in the embed so the user who executed that command is written there, and therefore, if this happens, it can be kept track of it easier.
meager gyro
@clever creek Hey pls follow the following message
hearty lanternBOT
meager gyro
@shut herald @vale gyro @floral heath
Xp farms are tolerated if everyone in game agrees on them, if not they are absolutely report- and bannable
In general, trend is having them rather in custom games than anywhere else as chances to harm others are lower
That leads me to Lord dios point, if we increase xp in normal games, bst/grind will move there again
That doesnt mean it's not a controversial topic and constant subject of discussions intern as extern and there have to be a more corrections for sure
In the end it's up to the developers
silk ingot
Hello! This is my first time suggesting something. I was in a game and the serial killer had claimed cursed (I was a werewolf and wanted them to be lynched) so I pointed out that cursed was dead because # and # were regular werewolves (that had died) and I got reported for that. I just think that saying the dead werewolves’ numbers shouldn’t mean you get a report.
serene compass
idk if this has been suggested before but it would be nice if the theme of the battle pass season would be mentioned somewhere , for example ‘Space Battle Pass’ as title. for those who don’t have discord etc
cobalt atlas
people that participated in the werewolf online championships should get a little reward.
silk shale
increase zombie, bandit and sect leader win xp to 10k
warm helm
Hey everyone! First off, sorry for our late reply! We hope you dont mind 😁
@zenith venture heya! I will handle your feedbacks seperatly below
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In which gamemodes will your suggestion be used? Every mode or only limited to ex. Quick game?
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Apart from getting higher punishments for leaving, will there be anything different in the priority mode? Also, i dont see why it would take longer to join this mode on first sight, some explanation would be nice there.
Feel free to ping me here or dm me your answers!
@austere timber hey hey! This got suggested before and reposted quite recently. Thanks for your idea though! 
@runic dragon hi! I will handle your feedbacks seperatly below
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sadly these sorts of data isnt saved and so will give inaccurate answers. Additionally, this has been suggested before
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ties rarely happen, so i dont think this is that neccesary, but it doesnt show your full stats... i will post it to #feedback-devs and we will see what happens
Thanks for your suggestions!
@thorn plaza hiya! This is actually meant to be like that and is in no way a glitch/bug. The hat is made to hide the eyes and not cover much of the head up. In the original design there was another hairpiece then you are currently wearing hence it might look weird. But there is nothing wrong with it. Thanks for your concerns!
@weak sequoia hoi! A talisman trade system has been suggested before! Thank you for the feedback! 
@drowsy tulip hello! I will go trough all your feedbacks below:
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this got suggested before quite recently
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this got suggested before
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what do you think a good price would be for those slots?
4)what do you think it should look like? Altough this has been suggested before, a new look on this background can make the developers reconsider the idea
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season backgrounds got suggested quite a lot before
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this got suggested before and denied
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skins will be reworked when the designers think it needs one. We are aware of the fact that not every skin matches as good as current skins now does. Thats why a few of them have been removed from the store 😅
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suggested before
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suggested before. You can already use your profile message for that too
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this exact same zombie nerf has been suggested before
Thank you for all your ideas and suggestions! Feel free to ping me here or dm me with your replies!
@shut wharf hey hey! I will go trough all your suggestions below:
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this definetly makes sense, so i will send it to #feedback-devs for you
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it seems like a post with the same idea has been posted before, but not in the way you are describing it, i will give it a post
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another good suggestion for #feedback-devs, can always come in handy
Thanks for all your feedback!
@sullen shell hai! We as mini-mods can see the logs where needed and we can see where the bot detects spam from who. But either way, i will send it to the bot mechanics. Thanks for your idea!
@silk ingot hu! This is because the report system thinks you revealed your teammates. Since the system is just a bot it is hard to detect the messages that are actually revealing the werewolves or otherwise, for now there is nothing we can do but i suggest you to avoid making that comment or similar again to prevent a possible, unfair ban. Sorry for the trouble 
@serene compass heyo! I will send this to #feedback-devs for you, thanks for your feedback!
@cobalt atlas heyu! Since the event is mostly community driven and brand new, things are still being worked out and this dors include the possibility of an ingame reward. It all depends on what the mods from wwocs decide
@silk shale only post serious suggestions here please
mental knoll
Hey, it would be great if when you’re ingame and you tap and hold on someone's avatar, their profile appears.
languid cape
I find this emoji disturbing and think it should be replaced with something that is less weird and disturbing.
It’s nicely animated but I find it disgusting when people use it. idk if it’s just me
runic dragon
@warm helm
#feedback-devs message
It looks incomplete for me 👀
peak geode
Add Daily Challenges (or Weekly Challenges)
Description: Daily challenges refer to tasks that if we can achieve, we will be rewarded with coins (maybe 5 to 30 coins per challenge depending on how hard it is).
Examples:
- As a Gunner, shoot an evil player once in a game. (Reward: 10 coins)
- As a Beast hunter, trap an evil player once in a game. (Reward: 10 coins)
And the above challenges can be improved (or become harder) this way:
- As a Gunner, shoot two evil players in a game. (Reward: 30 coins)
- As a beast hunter, trap two evil players in a game. (Reward: 30 coins).
Disclaimer: The above are just examples I came up with and I am not sure if the rewards are appropriate or not.
This can also be applied to other roles. The rewards will depend largely on how hard a role is and the challenge in particular.
Purpose: To encourage players to play good ( or better).
This is based on the Incentive Theory of Motivation.
drowsy tulip
@drowsy tulip hello! I will go trough all your feedbacks below:
this got suggested before quite recently
this got suggested before
what do you think a good price would be for those slots?
4)what do you think it should look like? Altough this has been suggested before, a new look on this background can make the developers reconsider the idea
season backgrounds got suggested quite a lot before
this got suggested before and denied
skins will be reworked when the designers think it needs one. We are aware of the fact that not every skin matches as good as current skins now does. Thats why a few of them have been removed from the store 😅
suggested before
suggested before. You can already use your profile message for that too
this exact same zombie nerf has been suggested before
Thank you for all your ideas and suggestions! Feel free to ping me here or dm me with your replies! :meowlove:
@warm helm (3) I think character slots should be unlocked by leveling up, change the currency to golds or gems, or reduce the price to around 100-150 roses. Or you can make it cheaper for first 3 slots, and then it gets gradually more expensive.
(4) I was thinking of a carnaval-themed background, or you can even display fan-arts from players that keeps changing every week/month.
Oh and why did the skin tone suggestions get rejected though, I feel like the current skin tone is either too pale or too dark for my character.
uneven yoke
I REALLY don't want to play with players i blocked in the past 😑 REALLY...
main island
normal werewolf in classic roles should be replaced and cycled by like guardian wolf, werewolfbeserk or nightmare werewolf because it is kind of boring to play normal werewolf, this can make the classic game fun.
normal wyvern
@mental knoll Hey this has been suggested before and only works on dead players when you click on their profile. If you have this with alive players, you can't vote. Thank you for your suggestion
@languid cape Good morning, to be honest I don't find it disturbing and it is an alien, so perfectly fits to the theme. I don't really agree that it is disturbing 
@peak geode Hey hey, this has been suggested before multiple times in this way. It is up to the developer to add something like this
@uneven yoke You usually don't have to play with users you have blocked. If they are not enough players for this round, also blocked player can be moved to your round
languid cape
it's not disturbing because it's a alien... the green alien smiling emoji I even find cute (from older bp) but this one it sticks out the tounge and winks 3 eyes and everything it just looks so weird...
I literally target players who use it. It disturbs me on that level
idk if others also feel the same
delicate raven
@languid cape I agree with you. It creeps me out I even had to disable emote animation because of it.
normal wyvern
@main island Normal werewolf is the weakest role while you want to add 3 of the strongest roles which unbalances the game a lot. You can suggest some set ups for the game with a replacement which might get into the game. Thank you very much
@languid cape Alright, because a second person agreed. I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion
scarlet mango
This may be a stupid suggestion (and one that will probably just end up with people being transphobic) but maybe underneath ones name in game, it could display ones pronouns? Many people are misgendered in game, mostly because a lot of the in game text only uses he/him pronouns.
I've also seen suggested that the "8 is evil. He belongs to the werewolf team" bit pronouns be changed based on what you've selected your gender as in settings.
kind mesa
Heeey @𝐅𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐭#4099, I like your idea! Ill post it in #feedback-devs, so maybe its ingame soon! Thank you, have a nice day! 
wise vortex
@leaden hare may be u can go #bugs-readonly
zenith venture
My Original post: https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/773545057285308416
@zenith venture heya! I will handle your feedbacks seperatly below
In which gamemodes will your suggestion be used? Every mode or only limited to ex. Quick game?
Apart from getting higher punishments for leaving, will there be anything different in the priority mode? Also, i dont see why it would take longer to join this mode on first sight, some explanation would be nice there.
Feel free to ping me here or dm me your answers!
@warm helm
Hello thanks for the reply, NP timezones differs afterall. The concept of this, lemme call it "priority queue" is to ensure that people wouldn't just leave a game because they didn't liked a role, so it should be made for game modes with leavers, if someone leaves they lose their "priority" status for as said 12 hours or maybe even 24. So it would be in everyone's interest to keep the status. I sadly have not played much ranked, as people kept talking about how this was silver etc, so i've so far only experience with quick plays, but having a "priority quick play" queue would "force" people to not wanting to leave, maybe there could be like a 10% xp gain or something, as in a little reward for playing priority. All it takes is not to leave a game because someone doesn't like their role
the concept is more because whenever i play a quick play, first night 5-6 people leaves, I basically hate being a werewolf, since it is so most likely a wolf will leave. So a system that gives everyone a "VIP" system and it's themselves who can lose that status. The entire feedback is to attempt to crack down on role-quitters. So having a game mode that won't let you in, if you role quit.
runic dragon
Punish people playing or participating in a XP Farm like "Wws win" "Zombie win" "Village win" in Custom Games and Ban the creator of these Custom games xp farm.Maybe this is already a thing but i didn't see any action took by a guardian in these cases.
quiet python
@scarlet mango well, if they have pronoun preferences they can either (1) put in bio, or (2) give 200 gold to add it in name
@leaden hare maybe post in #bugs-readonly ?
@runic dragon thanks for ur suggestion! we are currently finding solutions to XP farms :GWllentThinkPika:
@zenith venture thanks for your suggestion! afaik finishing the game would give you XP rewards already, but if u think the issue still exists then it means XP rewards doesnt work. The priority queue would kinda break this since quick games are for quick players, and wanna finish a game asap, for example. it's therefore counter-intuitive to have quick game players wait. however, this might work in sandbox (i think the incentive is great enough in ranked - the ban is long)
leaden hare
@leaden hare may be u can go #bugs-readonly
@wise vortex but I dont wanna report it as a bug but suggest it as a feature to get a layout like this, I prefer it so much more since you barely have to scroll trough the text chat and stuff
wise vortex
@leaden hare ah sorry im miss understood since u send too short description
leaden hare
@leaden hare ah sorry im miss understood since u send too short description
@wise vortex don't be sorry, it's my fault for being unclear, thanks for wanting to help!
primal pumice
Punish people playing or participating in a XP Farm like "Wws win" "Zombie win" "Village win" in Custom Games and Ban the creator of these Custom games xp farm.Maybe this is already a thing but i didn't see any action took by a guardian in these cases.
@runic dragon I hope they ban you!
meager gyro
@runic dragon I hope they ban you!
@primal pumice Let's stay nice and respectful, how can I help you?
@runic dragon Small note to your post, any actions guardian are taking arent public
livid girder
I think Most of the people Just don't understand, why the XP farms in CUSTOM Game should be banned..Custom is supposed to be played Like we want it to be..and it doesn't harm anyone. Some people Like me can't Finish their Battle Pass otherwise due to normal Life (school etc.) And it's often pretty hard to gain XP in quick Games or Sandbox plus it's frustrating If you die First night all the time or only loose. I Sometimes Play HOURS and can hardly Finish one Tier of the Battle Pass. So the XP farms Help. I can Finish it without any Stress and can Play quickgame and Sandbox without any stressing about gaining XP..
lean smelt
@runic dragon I hope they ban you!
@primal pumice
Okay, if they ban us, it’s time for us to say good bye this game LOL. We just wanna get the BP ealier, we dont harm anyone.
primal pumice
I think Most of the people Just don't understand, why the XP farms in CUSTOM Game should be banned..Custom is supposed to be played Like we want it to be..and it doesn't harm anyone. Some people Like me can't Finish their Battle Pass otherwise due to normal Life (school etc.) And it's often pretty hard to gain XP in quick Games or Sandbox plus it's frustrating If you die First night all the time or only loose. I Sometimes Play HOURS and can hardly Finish one Tier of the Battle Pass. So the XP farms Help. I can Finish it without any Stress and can Play quickgame and Sandbox without any stressing about gaining XP..
@livid girder exactly my point, I don't understand why are people against it so much, it doesn't hurt anyone.
meager gyro
@livid girder @lean smelt @primal pumice Heya I can understand that you feel a bit upset about changes and such
The point is balance and fairness
Xp customs are meant to be a "serious" custom game option where you can play and test your favourite set up with a group of players you choose, within rules.
Having a few farms, okay as long as it doesnt harm anyone + is not abused
But having a lot xp farms and daily highscores around 140k xp constantly was a bit too much and it's obvious that it's not just about a quest or a bp 😅
But if you have a concrete solution or suggestion I'd be happy to discuss it
😊
livid girder
Maybe Just let the XP from Custom Games work for BP? It doesn't Count for Levels and doesn't Count in statistics?
runic dragon
@runic dragon I hope they ban you!
@primal pumice for what? For standing against xp farms? Pathetic
vale gyro
With XP farms being an option i can finally play qp and sandbox again while having fun despite the new players still messing up their roles. Why? There's no stress or pressure anymore to win at all costs since you uselessly wasted 10+ minutes on a game just to lose. Most of my experiences confirm that.
The games aren't toxic anymore and people are generally way more chill. I assume because they now can play the actual game for fun as it's supposed to be played without worrying about not finishing cqs, bp etc.
Also see it this way: remove xp farms and we get the teaming clans in qp/sandbox etc back. That's also a thing i noticed. There are barely any gamethrowing or teaming people anymore.
Overall XP farms enrich the game and provide more benefits for the actual game experience.
runic dragon
@primal pumice
Okay, if they ban us, it’s time for us to say good bye this game LOL. We just wanna get the BP ealier, we dont harm anyone.
You harm the game itself.Battle passes are made to be completed fairly
meager gyro
@livid girder Thanks for your suggestion, I will post it in devs channel
primal pumice
@primal pumice for what? For standing against xp farms? Pathetic
@runic dragon @meager gyro you see this? and you called me non-respectful!
runic dragon
Bruh
meager gyro
@runic dragon Pls let's not start this fight ^^
Also for @primal pumice
runic dragon
Just stop xp farms
meager gyro
Just stay respectful, follow the rules
vale gyro
I agree with Destiny though. The farms shouldn't count towards statistics 
runic dragon
Imagine wishing someone to get banned on werewolf online because they want the game fair4all
lean smelt
You harm the game itself.Battle passes are made to be completed fairly
@runic dragon i play the game in my way, you can join this xp farm, but you say no. So you have to accept that you cant get the BP as fast as we do. Just be silent and do what u want.
runic dragon
Xp farms are not allowed anyways so what is your point
vale gyro
@runic dragon It is fair for all. What stops you from joining farms?
errant swift
How do exp farms harm the game? Explain pls.
primal pumice
Imagine being so mean and trying to ruin the game for 50 % of players, and imagine what, grinders are actually people that buy gems and spend money on the game, and we dont hurt anyone with that! If you dont want to grind, you DONT HAVE TO!!!
autumn fog
Unpopular opinion: you removed xp farms, but leaderboards player are boosted.
runic dragon
Is disguisting to see people farming easy xp with these "xp farms" comparing them with people that play Sandbox and work for the xp
vale gyro
Only valid point i can see are the leaderboard/statistics things. Personally never used or even looked at it but if people have a problem with that it's valid.
So maybe just fix that and everyone can agree there's no issue, right?
lean smelt
Xp farms are not allowed anyways so what is your point
@runic dragon
I believe that more than people want xp farm than those dont.
As I said if the game delete the xp farm, many people will say good bye this game.
errant swift
So they harm the game with numbers on a profile that mean nothing? Or cosmetics that everyone will get eventually anyways?
meager gyro
@runic dragon Pls use the channel for its purpose, suggestions
Dont attack others
@errant swift Same for you
runic dragon
They started attacking me tho
meager gyro
No need to continue
runic dragon
I just posted a feedback and they want me banned lol
lean smelt
Is disguisting to see people farming easy xp with these "xp farms" comparing them with people that play Sandbox and work for the xp
@runic dragon it’s your choice 🤣🤣🤣
autumn fog
Xp farms are not allowed anyways so what is your point
@runic dragon I talked with staff members about that. They said that xp farms aren't allowed, but tolerated.
errant swift
I suggest a channel to discuss feedback
autumn fog
@autumn fog What do you suggest?
@meager gyro I suggest to create "lucky games". When you join a game, you have a chance to play a lucky game, where the xp is doubled at the end.
primal pumice
@runic dragon just play the game the way you want, and we will play the way we want, we dont have to meet in game ever, so just ignore what other people do, dont stick your nose where it doesnt belong !
lean smelt
How do exp farms harm the game? Explain pls.
@errant swift xp farm is the way we got xp in the shortest time. Who joins xp farm accept this thing and it’s no harmful to anyone.
vale gyro
I've been playing this game now for years.
There weren't xp farms i was aware of until now. Maybe play for longer times and you'll eventually notice how tiring sandbox, qps games etc are.
I suggest XP farms should stay but they also shouldn't count towards statistics and leaderboards. That's all from my side, please leave the farms in.
meager gyro
@errant swift You can start posting a suggestion and then we can see if we can discuss it after the others stopped fighting
runic dragon
lean smelt
@errant swift You can start posting a suggestion and then we can see if we can discuss it after the others stopped fighting
@meager gyro Hi Lisa, where we can suggest this ???
meager gyro
@autumn fog So it would be luck based only? I mean xp are experience points after all
runic dragon
Me: Posted a feedback
Xp farmers: so you have chosen...Death
autumn fog
I would like to stop you since only staff members are allowed to answer and this is not a opinion fight channel.
meager gyro
@runic dragon just play the game the way you want, and we will play the way we want, we dont have to meet in game ever, so just ignore what other people do, dont stick your nose where it doesnt belong !
@primal pumice Last warning, dont fight here, use it for suggestions
primal pumice
@primal pumice Last warning, dont fight here, use it for suggestions
@meager gyro sorry Lisa, I am out! 🙂
meager gyro
You arent.. read pls @runic dragon
vale gyro
Both were warned, now could you switch channels and not clog up actual feedback and suggestions? 
runic dragon
What could be so offensive at that suggestion tho
autumn fog
@autumn fog So it would be luck based only? I mean xp are experience points after all
@meager gyro honestly, the only "competitive" utility of xp is for leaderboards, but leaderboards players are boosted too so I don't see any problem into letting ppl making xp faster.
meager gyro
@runic dragon Oki, last warning for you also. Dont fight, dont provoke, only suggest
meager gyro
@autumn fog I mean experience is used to climb up levels
That way levels would be even less related to you know.. experience playing the game
@runic dragon And that is provoking others, read the rules
runic dragon
So isn't it?
I am being attacked for posting a suggestion
I don't see any reason to be warned besides that i was answering their question about the suggestion
reef pastureBOT
D4COMPL3X#6034 has been muted
meager gyro
Lets move on
autumn fog
@autumn fog I mean experience is used to climb up levels
That way levels would be even less related to you know.. experience playing the game
@meager gyro the level doesn't make the player imo, we have made a lot of suggestions about adding an utility to them and some are still waiting to be seen. Imo, the only way to stop those angry ppl is to re-allow xp farms or scrolling back to find suggestions about upgrading the game.
limber marlin
Re abilit custom game bst: grinders always ruin quick games. If grinders play only custom games no more game ruin in quick
vale gyro
Would it be possible to add some sort of option to switch your gender in the game's inventory to directly see the other gender's bp or shop clothes? Like with current offers it shows you both but I'd also like to see it on offers I've missed. Usually when you try them on it's whatever gender you had selected but let's say the other one got another foreground item or a different hat piece. Unfortunately i can't view it with how the things work rn.
meager gyro
@autumn fog Again, its about how things are being used and abused
Its not about the amounts you need to unlock bp/ quests
Re abilit custom game bst: grinders always ruin quick games. If grinders play only custom games no more game ruin in quick
@limber marlin Report them please
runic dragon
Hi i really love those teeths can you make an option without the Tattoo its somehow ruining it
meager gyro
Would it be possible to add some sort of option to switch your gender in the game's inventory to directly see the other gender's bp or shop clothes? Like with current offers it shows you both but I'd also like to see it on offers I've missed. Usually when you try them on it's whatever gender you had selected but let's say the other one got another foreground item or a different hat piece. Unfortunately i can't view it with how the things work rn.
@vale gyro That has been suggested before but I will repost it, thanks!
limber marlin
If i report a grinder and 15 ppls report me who got ban? Im not informated 🙈
vale gyro
I see, thanks!
meager gyro
If i report a grinder and 15 ppls report me who got ban? Im not informated 🙈
@limber marlin You can report 15 players teaming via guardian mail, you dont have to tell them that you report them
Also guardians are checking all reports so if you have 15 invalid reports you wont be banned.
limber marlin
Oh ok ty
autumn fog
@autumn fog Again, its about how things are being used and abused
Its not about the amounts you need to unlock bp/ quests
@meager gyro honestly, xp farms are a method to gain xp faster that you normally gain in 10-20 minutes of boring gameplay. And sincerely, you had to forbid grind lobbies instead, since xp farms are easily detectable and whoever joins those lobbies automatically agree about their contents. In other words, xp farms are harmless, they are made only to gain that amount of xp that you normally gain in a longer time.
meager gyro
Hi i really love those teeths can you make an option without the Tattoo its somehow ruining it
@runic dragon I get what you mean
How items are split is mostly up to the designer though
I would probably rather go for making the tatoo a mask
@autumn fog The question or issue, again, aint consent or being able to detect them, its about fairness and balance
Allowing 140k/ day or getting full xp after 20s wouldnt make sense. On top it'd be unfair towords any other player
reef pewter
once again, do that Alpha can convert and Kitten can double vote ( more Logic) Kitten has a supporter so double vote, and Alpha in all series/game Can convert. Please change that
They refused because "Player" Would not have accepted that!
Prove to them that it is possible!
autumn fog
@autumn fog The question or issue, again, aint consent or being able to detect them, its about fairness and balance
Allowing 140k/ day or getting full xp after 20s wouldnt make sense. On top it'd be unfair towords any other player
@meager gyro I admit it, I played them a lot. In 7-8 hours (not a continuous gameplay), I made about 20k xp, but my goals weren't to play competitive or be the best player by passing everyone at the speed of light. The most of ppl goals are to end the battle pass and clan quests faster than normal. What changes to other players if I gain an outfit or a piece of it in a minor time?
hushed folio
I keep seeing feedback asking for stats to not be affected by custom boosting. I think there are better solutions such as: un-nerfing zombie farms, returning them to what they were around a year ago, which never affected stats in the first place, or removing the new ex format which brought the new farms that affect stats in the first place. That way, the farms don’t look the same way as the normal games in custom.
autumn fog
I admit it, I played them a lot. In 7-8 hours (not a continuous gameplay), I made about 20k xp, but my goals weren't to play competitive or be the best player by passing everyone at the speed of light. The most of ppl goals are to end the battle pass and clan quests faster than normal. What changes to other players if I gain an outfit or a piece of it in a minor time?
@autumn fog I would have agreed with you if xp had a competitive utility, and I would have been the first to say "stop that, it's not fair". But at the moment, xp has got only an esthetic function, and I don't really know how this can be pointed out as an "abuse". If the problem is that people might become vain, you can still punish them as you always have done.
(I'm not saying I'd like to load guardians with work)
glacial warren
@reef pewter the alpha werewolf has a double vote because the alpha in a pack is the leader. The leader chooses what will happen to the pack and such so it makes sense, that the alpha in game also has the power to decide 🤔
spiral frost
A question
autumn fog
Imo, you could do like this:
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Re-allow xp farms and catalog them as a new custom games's mode;
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Add the following message when you press the button to join an xp farm:
"This is an xp farm. That means it's a lobby made on purpose to gain xp faster than normal. By joining it, you automatically agree about it's contents and declare to be aware of what you are going to do there."
spiral frost
Why the emojis cant be seen in the first night
Yesterday it was avaliable
And now not
reef pewter
@glacial warren yes but when two regular ww, they can decide Cause they're stronger than the Alpha together
Chaman-Regular vs Alpha doesnt work, but Two regular Are stronger than Alpha
So I don't see the point of putting him as a leader, for example, kitten could become one
rich karma
I have the suggestion to completely down the emotes at night. this would not only make bst difficult but also many other gamethrows.
spiral frost
Where is the suggestion
midnight perch
Why the emojis cant be seen in the first night
@spiral frost same idk
glacial warren
@autumn fog hey 👋 I hope it is okay for you if I take over, if not you may wait for lisas return.
So hopefully I don't forget anything, but as mentioned by Lisa already, xp farms are not forbidden but tolerated with the reason, that players do have issues with completing battle pas/ quests etc. Xp farms are okay as long as all players are firstly aware of it and secondly agreed on it. If one of these is not the case, the player can report the game lobby for gamethrowing 🤔
Grindind in custom games is the minor issue to be fair, problematic is, when it happens in a normal language or sandbox or even ranked ^^
@reef pewter no, the alpha vote is stronger than 2 ww vote
autumn fog
@glacial warren heya, that's what I'm saying. You had to forbid grinding lobbies, not xp farms. The problem is that custom games use the game's rules, and that's not fair. As I said yesterday talking with guardians and mini-mods, custom games are made for fun and I see no reason to report for gamethrowing in a game that I made. Allow people to ban other players from their custom games adding them in a blacklist and the problem is solved. Everyone should be free to apply their own rules in their games. Remove the report button and let host write their rules. Sincerely, a problem of this game is that almost everything is forbidden.
glacial warren
@hushed folio the issue for your feedback here is, that it will always be an issue. You can not make all happy and the current system was suggested by most players in the community. There will always be someone complaining and it is not possible for the devs to change it every week ^^' even tho I do understand your feedback, at the moment is is pretty "balanced" if you want to call it like that? And also again here, the minor issue is the grinding in custom 🤔
autumn fog
@glacial warren heya, that's what I'm saying. You had to forbid grinding lobbies, not xp farms. The problem is that custom games use the game's rules, and that's not fair. As I said yesterday talking with guardians and mini-mods, custom games are made for fun and I see no reason to report for gamethrowing in a game that I made. Allow people to ban other players from their custom games adding them in a blacklist and the problem is solved. Everyone should be free to apply their own rules in their games. Remove the report button and let host write their rules. Sincerely, a problem of this game is that almost everything is forbidden.
@autumn fog I'm really sorry to say this, but if no one says the truth, the game couldn't get better.
errant swift
It would be nice if devs could list these changes (no more emoji n1 etc.) in patch notes or something. So that we don't have to go on like a scavenger hunt to figure out what they changed this time.
quiet vigil
Option to invite all your friends or all clan members at once
glacial warren
@shut herald I think that you yourself know, what the answer to this will be ^^'
midnight flax
Agree with @autumn fog 🙊
runic dragon
It's not fair when you are an OG and played the sorcerer role on your profile and now other have it because of werewolf farm
autumn fog
Imo, the first step to make the game better is to involve the devs in a debate with the community. It seems that the game is driven by darkness and (I don't want to attack your work and anything related) the recently updates are only for bug fixes. Most of the feedbacks are published in #feedback-devs and only the most rated are seen by devs. Imo, most rated ≠ most interesting and helpful. One example of what I'm saying is that roles aren't updated from the 17th of April. We received updates like voice games (that now as I can see are not so used), ranked games (in my language lounge I see someone who complains this new method), new clan quests that almost everyone has already gained and bug fixes. The game is getting monotonous and imo it's not a quick game's rotation change that will help people continue to play.
livid girder
That's why we suggested that XP farms won't Count in statistics or anything Like that> It's not fair when you are an OG and played the sorcerer role on your profile and now other have it because of werewolf farm
@runic dragon
runic dragon
Its so unfair i had something to flex with and ww lobby ruined it
spiral frost
It's not fair when you are an OG and played the sorcerer role on your profile and now other have it because of werewolf farm
@runic dragon but the really you are only interested in the achieved
runic dragon
Yes
spiral frost
And we are interested in xp
runic dragon
spiral frost
If you see you perjudícate others with your pwn ego
runic dragon
I have nothing against ww grind, but it should not count for the stats
The games from users
woven monolith
i agree with zero. it isn’t fair that some players have such a high win rate without ever working for it. before, i can check if their fake win rate is from boost (by looking at ww wins) but if it counts towards stat, that won’t work anymore.
livid girder
That's what we suggested. We also want that our XP farms won't Count in statistics and achievements!!
woven monolith
oh
reef pewter
@reef pewter no, the alpha vote is stronger than 2 ww vote
@glacial warren then, try
woven monolith
i just know the old boosting does
reef pewter
you'll see ^^
livid girder
That's what I suggested and that's what got posted in the Feedback dev^^
glacial warren
@spiral frost it was dusabled to use emotes in the first night to prevent gamethrowing
woven monolith
xp farms fills my custom lobbies and pretty annoying when i want to find a friend lobby 😭
glacial warren
@rich karma this already has been suggested and was posted in #feedback-devs pretty recently, of you want to call it like that, so I would choose to not repost it yet, thank you for your suggestion anyways
spiral frost
@spiral frost it was dusabled to use emotes in the first night to prevent gamethrowing
@glacial warren yea I know because I’m talking here
paper ginkgo
@spiral frost it was dusabled to use emotes in the first night to prevent gamethrowing
@glacial warren Then I won't update de game xd
@rich karma this already has been suggested and was posted in #feedback-devs pretty recently, of you want to call it like that, so I would choose to not repost it yet, thank you for your suggestion anyways
@glacial warren Can you send the link for the suggestion
glacial warren
@autumn fog sorry for the delay, firstly, grind3would fall under gamethrowing since the game is not working as usal. And I also said, it is "tolerated" in custom. Even in custom you can report and if the players don't know and agree on it, it is gamethrowing 🤔 so reportable. Yes custom games are for fun, but a lot of people really try to get the amount Lisa said earlier per day and not for the battle pass and such.
If you want to have fun in a custom game, you can surely play the game. If you want to get xp in custom game, you need a proper setting. No proper setting = no "experience" in gameplay = not the xp like in an actual game. (don't misunderstand this, I don't say you're not experienced but that grinding games are no games where you actually play). I do understand your as also the other side, but even if custom changes back, the grinding in other game modes still exists + there are players outside of custom, which want a level and be proud of it. Currently when you see someone with level 1k you automatically think it is a grinder. But there are actual players which are proud of reaching their level 1k with normal playing, winning, loosing 🤔 they get stamped as grinders too 🤔
Additional the games (wwos) goal is not sitting in a lobby and getting xp, the goal of wwo is to play werewolf with others and enjoying the time + having a great community. The devs decide in the end and the devs goal for the game is a community and to improve the game.
Banning players like a blacklist => already suggested too and when you kick someone 2 times they are blacklisted for that game
Removing report function in custom => rules are rules if custom or not. Follow them or not but expect consequences..
Continuing with your feedback about devs being part of such discussions, the devs do read a lot feedbacks to improve the game but I think I mentioned earlier, there will always be someone complaining about how it is, how it's handled etc. It will not change anything at all and if you think about it from a dev or staff perspective, you may understand that it can be really time consuming after all and everyone has their real life.
celest carbon
but dont you first put a bp with missions? it doesnt take a scientist😨
glacial warren
@errant swift there will be changes announcements when all changes are done but maybe it is not the smartest move to spam #game-updates with single points every time it gets changed 👀
celest carbon
bp with missions = no grind
glacial warren
@quiet vigil yo, that has already been suggested before and was posted in#feedback-devs :P thank you very much for the feedback! I also do like the idea because it makes a lot easier xD
celest carbon
People play for bp
glacial warren
@celest carbon this has been suggested before tho 👀
celest carbon
it was suggested months ago but no one has ever considered this idea @glacial warren
errant swift
Not in annoucements but currently there is already a changes (annoucements I'm not sure what it was called again) section in the game if you press on settings. Hotfixes like this could be listed in there. I've never really seen a multiplayer game that does not list their hotfixes/small changes anywhere. Waiting an entire month for these changes to be listed is quite long.
celest carbon
and if I have to be honest you are or rather you were also the first to not enforce the rules to the players during the staff hunt, too many suicides which did not happen before @glacial warren 👀
upper depot
I guess, subjective opinion. But, bp with mission would be cool. But u're gonna still watching people who make grind or farm
autumn fog
@glacial warren
Sincerely, the game shouldn't rotate around ppl who wants to be proud of their levels since levels are literally useless. I understand what you say, you see both medal's faces and you can understand us. But the problem is, if you either do that yes or no, you always agree with your mates and at this point nothing changes. I totally agree about that the game is made for enjoying time and have fun, but at this moment no one wants to spend time anymore on a game where almost everything is boring or forbidden, since new updates cannot be made and feedbacks are declined because every decision must be governed by the fear of rulebreakers. I was talking with my compatriots about expanding devs team. I understand the period we're living in and I understand too that 'cause of that updates will be more sudden. But it's true that this is the period where people have more time to spend on that game, and I think that it's the moment to improve the gameplay.
glacial warren
@celest carbon I am not a guardian after all 🤷 you may mix up something but I do report a lot ^^ you suicide often => system ban
@errant swift the in game announcement is connected to #game-updates, everything Philipp posts there goes in the game announcement
celest carbon
@glacial warren hunt staff is done by you not by us regular users, your fault.
let's not climb on the mirrors
certain events where you earn 200 coins, me with 200 coins i reach 62k, realize how useful these events are
glacial warren
False, users suiciding is their choice, right now you just search for reasons why we are the responsible ones for this 🤷 users suicide => users decision => user responsibility.
celest carbon
why didn't they commit suicide before staff hunt?mhhhhh this is so strange...
blame for your events🥰😘
fallen rain
Good morning, just a game suggestion ... It would be interesting to be able to exchange a skin that the person has and no longer wears, with someone who has another one in the same situation, so the two people would leave satisfied. That way it would be a way to move the game around, and even donate skins that we don't use to someone who can't afford to buy a skin.
glacial warren
@celest carbon cool ^^ what is your suggestion? ^^
Just saying, you don't have to participate in events, you are not forced to be here, you are not forced to play the game, do what you like 🤷
celest carbon
@glacial warren no staff hunt👀
errant swift
Ah I see I personally do not check annoucements in the discord server and mosly in the app itself. The change of the pricing of clan gem quests and promoting discord cosmetics were all individually posted and probably many more. I don't really see what the problem with posting these small changes is. It's not like we all get an @ everyone ping every time something gets posted.
glacial warren
@celest carbon there will be staff hunts. Staff hunts don't make the suicide count higher at all 🤷
celest carbon
@glacial warren do you mean I don't have to play while these events are happening? how we respect the rules of not doing gt / teaming, random shooting you too should not organize these events where people do not commit suicide, you are the first ones that players have to take an example from, by doing so you are giving a negative example, it would be right Do: We will no longer do any staff hunt if you continue to commit suicide, you are ruining a game for the other 15 people who want to play seriously,stop
Pity it is so...
glacial warren
Feel free to report us to Philipp via dms with evidence and reasoning, thank you
runic dragon
Take the emojies back for the first night cause I didnt waste money for nothing to not be able to use them 😡😡
glacial warren
@runic dragon you can use them the whole game just not the first night 🤔
runic dragon
What's the sense of it? If Im playing with a friend I cannot mess around with him/her in whichever mode now 😡
I'm just wasting money for nothing
glacial warren
@autumn fog the proud ppl is not the main point here at all to be honest, but again, the devs have their expectations as they want the game 🤔
autumn fog
Sorry if I jump in, this is my last message at the moment. With that, what changes? By talking about some arguments, it always ends in a ban or mute. It seems that when we talk, the only goal is to end in a fight, mute and ban. I want to have a dialogue free from malice and threats.
glacial warren
@runic dragon you don't waste money, you can use it the whole game, just not at the start ^^
runic dragon
in every mode?
autumn fog
@autumn fog the proud ppl is not the main point here at all to be honest, but again, the devs have their expectations as they want the game 🤔
@glacial warren devs decide everything, but they should have a look to community's opinion about what they do. Yeah, the game is created by devs, but by the community who plays it at the same moment.
glacial warren
@autumn fog the goal is not to reach a mute but I think you do agree that accusing us for things we don't do is better to report to a higher up so they can take action accordingly
runic dragon
Is still a feedback, u can add it to as voting and lets see if people really want them off the first night, cause it's unfair not letting us vote about it, since... we're the ones giving life to the game, without the community this would be dead, so why dont let us decide? :) #democracy
glacial warren
@runic dragon #feedback-devs had a vote about removing emotes completely and also removing the ability to use them at night with a really positive vote 😊
autumn fog
@autumn fog the goal is not to reach a mute but I think you do agree that accusing us for things we don't do is better to report to a higher up so they can take action accordingly
@glacial warren yes I totally agree with that, I'm not accusing you, I'm not accusing anyone. The only thing that I'm accusing is the future of that game. You are right, devs have a real life, but you and I have one too. Devs make the game, players play it. If those two things don't cooperate, the situation will get worst with the passing of time.
runic dragon
Can u show me it please?
glacial warren
I'm eating 🤔
runic dragon
So what do I have to think if you're not showing me it? That actually u are lying to me? 🤔
autumn fog
Suggestion
Instead of removing emotes for everyone, you can add an option that allows you to see them or not as you prefer in-game.
open flare
@runic dragon #feedback-devs message
lyric rock
7 february, in another context but yeah, it's true.
modern nebula
hello guys i would like to know if the rumors of ban for those who play farm are real
runic dragon
Let me make it more thumbs down I share it with my friends
lean smelt
hello guys i would like to know if the rumors of ban for those who play farm are real
@modern nebula yes, it’s real
open flare
i found this one, maybe there are more but i check feedback often and a lot of players have suggested it to prevent cheating/gamethrowing.
runic dragon
Why didn add it earlier then if it was since February? :) and as I see it, reelections works for real world, so why not making a vote again since is getting suggested again? I dont think it would make such a biiig problem 😴
It's just a voting btw
lyric rock
Let me make it more thumbs down I share it with my friends
@runic dragon sorry If I had a bad English but... what do you say? I mean, thumbs down for what thing? (sorry if this is so bad redacted;;)
open flare
yes aha
glacial warren
Additional, imagine I have a real life and need food on some point of the day
modern nebula
@modern nebula yes, it’s real
@lean smelt but has the ban been frequent or just sometimes?
open flare
if a lot of players didn’t use emotes to cheat/gamethrow, they wouldn’t be removed guys... 🤷🏻♀️
lean smelt
@lean smelt but has the ban been frequent or just sometimes?
@modern nebula just who plays too much xp in a day.
modern nebula
@modern nebula just who plays too much xp in a day.
@lean smelt thank you for the information
runic dragon
if a lot of players didn’t use emotes to cheat/gamethrow, they wouldn’t be removed guys... 🤷🏻♀️
Hello, and what about if I didnt use them for that? Uh? Do I have to think this was totally an act if selfishness?
And what about if the voting change now? It means emojies are back? 😴
open flare
it’s not too much of a big deal to be honest... you can still use your emotes day one and after. and you’re not alone, you know.
(and it’s up to devs, not even staff members afaik)
runic dragon
@runic dragon
#feedback-devs message
@glacial warren
That link should not be an argument anymore ;)
@runic dragon democracy my friend
If u dont like it keep ur opinion for ur own
No i made my friends to thumb down
:)
glacial warren
^ not how it works 🤷
runic dragon
Not how it works, but u can ask them all if they really all know me and u will find out that no :)
So, as I said it before... democracy
Thats how it works; they r grinding and sharing my opinion
Grind doesnt work without emo
daring hatch
I don't get this democracy talk, people voted to remove them right?
open flare
you admit that you use them to cheat/gamethrow so why wouldn’t devs remove them?
daring hatch
The community has chosen
runic dragon
you admit that you use them to cheat/gamethrowing so why wouldn’t devs remove them?
@open flare
Who said it is gamethrowing
The grinders giving the most money for wwo
latent furnace
But no one outside discord knew about that poll and now that we do the results have changed
daring hatch
The fact that you are getting all your friends to downvote the suggestion changes nothing now, since the ones that support it won't see it, only you and the friends you are sharing it with
glacial warren
@runic dragon feel free to not pay money for the game
runic dragon
I didnt admit nothing, people are reading this chat, people read my opinion, they like it? They have the link? Let them vote, and what else I can say that u alsohave sending the link to make ur friends vote for a like with that thinking 🤷♀️
latent furnace
I don't know her and I voted against it lol. It's not just her friends
daring hatch
Lmao it got 20 downvotes in the span of 3 minutes, people expressed their will already
@latent furnace so what
More people voted to support it
open flare
grinding is literally gamethrowing if not all players agreed to, if people complained about emotes, it’s because they disagreed.
daring hatch
Democracy baby
runic dragon
What happens now? Uh? The people vote thumbs down, democracy :)
daring hatch
Isn't that what you want
runic dragon
grinding is literally gamethrowing if not all players agree to, if people complained about emotes, it’s because they disagreed.
Sorry, but none is talking about grinding
daring hatch
What happens now? Uh? The people vote thumbs down, democracy :)
@runic dragon I explained it to you already, that's not how it works
runic dragon
Only you
I just want the emojis or my money back in the case I cannot use them
:)
glacial warren
Just drop the topic. In short => I mentioned the vote is old. I mentioned it was positive against emotes at night. I mentioned that the devs can decide, I mentioned that it is NOT possible to make everyone happy. End of the story.
daring hatch
Since the people that support that are not aware that the suggestion exists
open flare
Thats how it works; they r grinding and sharing my opinion
@runic dragon im not the only one
runic dragon
So make a new voting!!! Lmaoooo
Democracy
Its a feedback I repeat it again,
People wants to vote
Make it again
It's not that difficult cmon
glacial warren
^^
open flare
you did downvote it already, now it’s up to devs
latent furnace
The people that support that already voted
runic dragon
We want voting :)
daring hatch
The people that support that already voted
@latent furnace that's not how it works lol
glacial warren
@runic dragon you want vote and I want to eat, we both don't get what we want, life is cruel
paper ginkgo
@runic dragon #feedback-devs message
@open flare Wtf, from 7 feb xdd and its getting downvoted
daring hatch
Real talk now, the game exists to allow the people to play werewolf, not to spend hours boosting like bots
runic dragon
@open flare Wtf, from 7 feb xdd and its getting downvoted
@paper ginkgo u see how hypocrite
daring hatch
I'm sure we don't need the boosting community
runic dragon
And we can't even vote again? O.o
errant swift
Werewolf roleplay game 😳
daring hatch
Exactly
runic dragon
When we're the ones who makes the game running smoothly 🙃🙃🙃
runic dragon
I share the opinion, that there should be a representative for grinders, who is in contact with the devs
daring hatch
Plenty of people buy skins and don't care about boosting
runic dragon
Make us vote and I wont complain
open flare
you did vote already
runic dragon
If people wants to remove them good then
daring hatch
The devs shown many times that they don't support boosting, idc what you expect
runic dragon
If not u take them back on
glacial warren
A serious question for you on this point, do you actually have feedback which is not 99% complaining about something 60% of the users here want? You claim democracy but that's exactly what this vote was + AGAIN IT IS THE DEVS GAME AND NOT YOURS
daring hatch
You are not entitled to anything
daring hatch
It's not a democracy
The game is privately owned
Devs do what they want
The devs want people to play wwo, not to grind
runic dragon
Hello? But, what do we have feedback then? For not being listened?
I want to contact the dev phillipp to speak about grind how can i contact him
idle stirrup
Even if they were to enable votes again it would probably not pass, so why complain
errant swift
I want to contact the dev phillipp to speak about grind how can i contact him
@runic dragon Carrier pigeon
daring hatch
Philipp literally explicitly said he doesn't like grinding
lyric rock
grinding is literally gamethrowing if not all players agreed to, if people complained about emotes, it’s because they disagreed.
@open flare I agree, that's why people grind with friends or people that are grinding too, but they (or we) haven't how comunicate at night, so, they use emote. But when the game starts they are ALL agree with farm. So, it's ok.
That's why I think the current suggest to able farm in custom games it's a good solution. If you join you're agree. If everyone it's ok with that, they can't ruin game to anyone
paper ginkgo
A serious question for you on this point, do you actually have feedback which is not 99% complaining about something 60% of the users here want? You claim democracy but that's exactly what this vote was + AGAIN IT IS THE DEVS GAME AND NOT YOURS
@glacial warren It's not the devs game lol, the community makes this game possible, without players there would not be game. Just listen to what users that play the game want
glacial warren
Devs can add what they want and in #feedback-devs it is not really necessary to add the vote itself. The devs just want to see what others think it this doesn't change, that the devs can add it or not. You will find suggestions which got up voted a lot also against grinding, removing grinding, making grinding bannable. Even suggestions with a high vote can still get declined because IT IS DEVS DECISION
daring hatch
@glacial warren It's not the devs game lol, the community makes this game possible, without players there would not be game. Just listen to what users that play the game want
@paper ginkgo the community is made of many people that only care about playing the game, we don't need the grinding community
idle stirrup
@lyric rock exactly, if you don't wanna join a farm you don't, just go play sandbox or something
paper ginkgo
Then let the people vote xddd
daring hatch
The devs decide who they want their game to appeal to, they chose actual people over bots
glacial warren
Please start reading.
lyric rock
Sometimes I play "grind game" when I'm busy and I want to colaborate on clan quest or do my bp. I think that only play grind game is too boring. But I can't see anyithing wrong with that
daring hatch
I respect their decision
runic dragon
@paper ginkgo the community is made of many people that only care about tallying the game, we don't need the grinding community
@daring hatch
Why are you so rasist arent the "grind commuinty" human too the opinion of us is important too
daring hatch
Lmao racist
daring hatch
You are acting entitled ad hell dude, you keep saying the game needs the grinding community and that's a lie
So sit down
idle stirrup
@runic dragon is there a community dedicated to just grinding? Like enjoy the game lmao
runic dragon
@lyric rock exactly, if you don't wanna join a farm you don't, just go play sandbox or something
@idle stirrup also, none cares about lvl and achievements, who even look at them? 😂😂😂
You are acting entitled ad hell dude, you keep saying the game needs the grinding community and that's a lie
@daring hatch
Who are you to tell me that i sit down? 😹
daring hatch
Why play a social deduction game if you care about grinding, go play afk arena or smt
glacial warren
Can you stop? ^^
daring hatch
@daring hatch
Who are you to tell me that i sit down? 😹
@runic dragon someone that actually plays the game
sick cave
I dont want to be rude and just have this one question.
As far as I know there where multiples votes on the topic of grinding, if it should be allowed or not. Since nothing really changed following those voting I will just assume that the general consent on it was to tolerate Grind (correct me if I'm wrong) and now things are done based on a voting that wasn't publicly announced?
runic dragon
Can you stop? ^^
@glacial warren can u add my feedback to voting? ^ ^
daring hatch
I dont want to be rude and just have this one question.
As far as I know there where multiples votes on the topic of grinding, if it should be allowed or not. Since nothing really changed following those voting I will just assume that the general consent on it was to tolerate Grind (correct me if I'm wrong) and now things are done based on a voting that wasn't publicly announced?
@sick cave people voted against it + the devs are against it
The devs decide above all
runic dragon
The game says u love feedback
glacial warren
@runic dragon no :D
runic dragon
So, addI my feedback
pallid merlin
So sit down
@daring hatch Stay respectful, let staff handle it
@daring hatch
Who are you to tell me that i sit down? 😹
@runic dragon If you want to report a user, do so via #discord-reporting-old-2025 but don't react with provocations
runic dragon
Democracy :)
sick cave
Well yeah but there is a difference between tagging a whole server and doing things for that topic based on a silent vote
pallid merlin
I dont want to be rude and just have this one question.
As far as I know there where multiples votes on the topic of grinding, if it should be allowed or not. Since nothing really changed following those voting I will just assume that the general consent on it was to tolerate Grind (correct me if I'm wrong) and now things are done based on a voting that wasn't publicly announced?
@sick cave Questions go in #questions, this is for suggestions
Most things get announced via #game-updates, devs can choose not to announce if they prefer
sick cave
I will move over there then, thank you @pallid merlin
runic dragon
The game says in the first lvls u install it "we love feedback" so what do I have to think now? U are all hypocrites?
:)
People hate grind because its gamethrowing, then just dont make grind count as leaderboard exp
I'm someone who does both playing normal and grinding and both communities are full of chill and nice people and I cannot understand why the normal people r hating grinders
pallid merlin
@runic dragon This channel is for constructive suggestions
This is #feedback-readonly not #complaint
runic dragon
My feedback is add back emojies :)
pallid merlin
@runic dragon That's a good point 😉 Its already been suggested before and forwarded to devs though, thanks for suggesting
idle stirrup
@runic dragon why getting so mad over this, people already voted on this topic, if you see gamethrowing, report it and go play another match, that simple
runic dragon
And u dont even putting it on voting :)
pallid merlin
@runic dragon Not everything is voted 
Devs are aware some people don't want them removed
lean smelt
I tired when trade a hundred roses for my friend. Please allow us to custom amount the roses for a friend.
autumn fog
I'd like to receive an answer whenever you want.
runic dragon
Lol? Sorry, if this was already in voting it can be there once again, I dont see any problem :)
idle stirrup
@pallid merlin ok 🥴
pallid merlin
@lean smelt That's a good point, it's been posted in #feedback-devs more than once though
Thanks for suggesting 
runic dragon
Again to the "new wolf farm"
May you not count that for profile because it really unfair if u played the sorcerer in 2018 and now grinders have it on their profile
autumn fog
Sorry if I jump in, but I've seen that answer a lot of time and it's boring. What changes to you if someone has obtained Sorcerer's achievement? Why does the game have to be blocked only for your proud?
pallid merlin
@runic dragon Custom games not counting for stats in general has been suggested several times before, thanks for suggesting though 
lyric rock
Again to the "new wolf farm"
May you not count that for profile because it really unfair if u played the sorcerer in 2018 and now grinders have it on their profile
@runic dragon Honestly, I don't care about achievements xd but It's ok. I understood in the last suggestion that farming in custom won't change achievements/win rate, so I don't know what is the problem on this point(?)
Let farm/grind onlyto get xp to clan quest or bp
sick cave
We get, it's not our game. We just play it, but you also have to understand it's kind of a big "fuck you" in our face when things are done like this. We had that topic in the past and the community votes where all over the place. Now making a big changed like that based on a voting from 9 months ago that wasn't even publicly announced and straight up refusing to reopen it just doesn't seem right.
pallid merlin
Making xp from custom only counted for quests/battle pass tiers has also been a very suggested idea to fix potential xp issues @lyric rock
undone rose
I’m done with this game if grinding is banned for circumstances when everyone agrees to DO IT. What a complete joke.
pallid merlin
@sick cave I understand that you don't like the change being done like that and that you're frustrated we don't accept "reverse the change" as feedback but there are two things to adress to your message:
- Community votes help devs know what the community thinks but that doesn't mean they have to take the most voted option
- Removing emojis was not done because of a vote from february
daring hatch
If you want to grind
pallid merlin
@daring hatch Let staff handle it please, else drama will restart again
daring hatch
Yes sir
pallid merlin
@undone rose Please only use this channel for constructive suggestions
This is #feedback-readonly, not #complaint
I understand your frustration but ranting here won't change it
vale gyro
Can we get a #complaint channel then
pallid merlin
What would be its use? Focus negativity?
vale gyro
Have all the negativity at one place
undone rose
Actually it has the benefit of saving mods a lot of time and effort in deleting those kind of posts from the other channels.
runic dragon
I would hang out at complaint channel to discuss 😜
pallid merlin
@autumn fog So about this: #feedback-readonly message
Currently I don't think devs will change it back so quickly (especially as the reason why they removed is still a valid concern)
I understand your concern for the game but I'm not sure to understand what you're suggesting (a lot of messages - I probably skipped yours)
@vale gyro The aim of this server isn't negativity though
"Being part of this community isn’t a right, but a privilege. If you can’t add positivity to this place, you are not welcome here."
Extract from the #rules-deprected
autumn fog
Nothing will change if you all (staff and players) keep talking with a fight-like tone. Staff should accept that not everyone (in that case the most of the community) agrees with their changes and players should accept devs decision. If you cooperate, a compromise could be found.
So my final suggestion is: listen to community's words and take farms back. Legalize them and see how it goes. The game should follow everyone's opinion and not the fear of rulebreakers.
runic dragon
Sirexus first hi 
I share ur opinion
daring hatch
Nothing will change if you all (staff and players) keep talking with a fight-like tone. Staff should accept that not everyone (in that case the most of the community) agrees with their changes and players should accept devs decision. If you cooperate, a compromise could be found.
So my final suggestion is: listen to community's words and take farms back. Legalize them and see how it goes. The game should follow everyone's opinion and not the fear of rulebreakers.
@autumn fog many in the community are against it though
Does their opinion not count?
runic dragon
Thumb down from haters
autumn fog
I talked about a "compromise".
vale gyro
Well, was worth a shot. Might i then suggest something like a feedback discussion channel specifically focusing on discussions to thoroughly talk about other feedback and suggestions without drowning out messages here?
sick cave
If that's the case then I don't see why reopening the vote would be bad? The devs can still decide on there own what they want to do after the vote. But straight up refusing it and not even giving us the chance to show our concerns to the dev team shouldn't be the way.
daring hatch
I talked about a "compromise".
@autumn fog the compromise is giving you what you want? That's not what compromise means
runic dragon
@autumn fog many in the community are against it though
@daring hatch
many in the community are for it though
pallid merlin
I'm not on a fight-like tone though 
I'm explaining the reason why something has been declined even if most people would prefer it being accepted
If you're talking about dev vs players, that's a fair concern 🤔
Either way, because something is a popular option, doesn't mean it'll make the game better for example
I'd like to take a deeper look at what you suggested but the channel is rather busy at the moment so I'll try to take care of it first @autumn fog
pallid merlin
Thumb down from haters
@runic dragon Avoid provocations, thanks
Well, was worth a shot. Might i then suggest something like a feedback discussion channel specifically focusing on discussions to thoroughly talk other feedback and suggestions without drowning out messages here?
@vale gyro #wov-chat works for that
sick cave
We only have limited options to get our voices to be heard by a dev, a voting is one of those options.
pallid merlin
One thing at a time
vale gyro
Never been there but wouldn't we then annoy the regulars talking about unrelated stuff?
pallid merlin
If that's the case then I don't see why reopening the vote would be bad? The devs can still decide on there own what they want to do after the vote. But straight up refusing it and not even giving us the chance to show our concerns to the dev team shouldn't be the way.
@sick cave Fair point 🤔 But if it's going to be denied anyway, it might lead to more frustration from users?
daring hatch
You are not entitled to the devs time, they have expressed their thoughts on boosting already
idle stirrup
Hey, little thing I noticed,this week's quick game is very in favor of villagers, I haven't seen one ww win today, the ww have only two powers in seer and shaman and the village has 3 info, 2 protectors and 3 potential killers, wolves are just getting smoked, and let's not talk about poor guy sk
pallid merlin
@vale gyro #wov-chat is for anything wwo-related so suggestions fit
It may annoy some users who prefer to talk only about actual games rather than suggestions but the channel can be used for both
vale gyro
Alternate solution: Remove farms but only if lower bp tier requirements to like 300xp or less.
undone rose
People don’t understand that grinders are the ones likely to buy the overpriced double XP pack in the shop and therefore fund this game...if you lose the vast majority of the top 30-50 clans as a result of this decision, good luck with that
pallid merlin
@idle stirrup Hey 
I'll forward your feedback, thanks for bringing it
runic dragon
Alternate solution: Remove farms but only if lower bp tier requirements to like 300xp or less.
@vale gyro not only, bp, also mission in clans
daring hatch
People don’t understand that grinders are the ones likely to buy the overpriced double XP pack in the shop and therefore fund this game...if you lose the vast majority of the top 30-50 clans as a result of this decision, good luck with that
@undone rose I spent hundreds of euros on this game and I only play ranked, many others are like me, you overestimate the importance of grinders
runic dragon
People don’t understand that grinders are the ones likely to buy the overpriced double XP pack in the shop and therefore fund this game...if you lose the vast majority of the top 30-50 clans as a result of this decision, good luck with that
@undone rose
Facts
vale gyro
@runic dragon yeah, that too!
pallid merlin
@vale gyro So assuming the game detects farms, make them non-accessible to users who don't "need" it?
daring hatch
I also bought the double xp pack, just like plenty of other players that don't boost
paper ginkgo
We only have limited options to get our voices to be heard by a dev, a voting is one of those options.
@sick cave Yeah, we want democracy
sick cave
@pallid merlin that might be, but atleast we are given this chance. A straight up refusal on even a voting also is frustrating and gives us the feeling of not even been taken serious.
pallid merlin
People don’t understand that grinders are the ones likely to buy the overpriced double XP pack in the shop and therefore fund this game...if you lose the vast majority of the top 30-50 clans as a result of this decision, good luck with that
@undone rose That's not a suggestion though 🤔 This channel is for constructive ideas
runic dragon
I also bought the double xp pack, just like plenty of other players that don't boost
@daring hatch
Name me 100 i name you 1000
pallid merlin
@runic dragon No need to comment "facts" though, keep this for suggestions please 😉
daring hatch
@daring hatch
Name me 100 i name you 1000
@runic dragon doubt it
vale gyro
No like, revert the system if you want and all.
Just lower bp and cq exp because they're ridiculously high. Always been an issue imo and it's just very stressful :/
pallid merlin
@pallid merlin that might be, but atleast we are given this chance. A straight up refusal on even a voting also is frustrating and gives us the feeling of not even been taken serious.
@sick cave I'll discuss it, thanks for suggesting 🤔
runic dragon
@sick cave you so cool i share ur opinion
pallid merlin
@runic dragon @daring hatch This is for suggestions, not debating about who pays most. You may want to use #wov-chat for that, but don't continue in this channel
languid cape
- bp isn’t meant to be finished by everyone and boosting is unfair for the players who actaully play and is also unfair on the xp leaderboard as all of them are just boosters.
- I don’t think spending money on the game much means anything here. You suggesting that boosters spend more money is more like a attempt to bribe devs into not disabling boosts in my opinion
daring hatch
Plus I don't think blackmailing the devs is the right strategy here, if they want to get rid of grinders to keep the game more oriented on playing games based on strategy that's on them, you guys should respect their decsion
pallid merlin
@vale gyro We get that there's a lot of users being frustrated, we already know a lot of users want it to be reverted but saying that right after the change isn't really bringing any new suggestion 😅
autumn fog
I'm not on a fight-like tone though :nicopeek: I'm explaining the reason why something has been declined even if most people would prefer it being accepted
If you're talking about dev vs players, that's a fair concern 🤔
Either way, because something is a popular option, doesn't mean it'll make the game better for example
I'd like to take a deeper look at what you suggested but the channel is rather busy at the moment so I'll try to take care of it first @autumn fog
@pallid merlin as you said: "because something is a popular option, doesn't mean it'll make the game better". I've talked about that there: #feedback-readonly message
I want to say that I'm not rating my suggestion as something useful, but according to what y'all are saying "see the pros and cons of people", that case seems like you've supported who is against xp farms. Honestly, I can't explain the frustration of those who are proud to have Sorcerer in their achievements, since's achievement can still be obtained by adding it in any custom game. I repeat, xp farms are a method to obtain xp faster than normal, which would have been obtained in hours of gameplay. In other words, there's not an abuse, no one takes advantages on that. People are frustrated that they can no longer brag about being old players and flaunt their levels and achievements.
paper ginkgo
- bp isn’t meant to be finished by everyone and boosting is unfair for the players who actaully play and is also unfair on the xp leaderboard as all of them are just boosters.
- I don’t think spending money on the game much means anything here. You suggesting that boosters spend more money is more like a attempt to bribe devs into not disabling boosts in my opinion
@languid cape Spending money means a lot lol, do you think devs want to loose all their funders? Xddd
errant swift
multiple people are typing...~
vale gyro
I don't mean the farm change, i meant the whole cg changes. Might even lead to that.
Regardless, just less exp requirements in general is my suggestion.
daring hatch
@autumn fog there are many other reasons for why people are against it, for example they make win rate completely worthless
pallid merlin
@vale gyro "Cq"?
sick cave
If this is about fairness then I suggest a system where people with a a average gametime of 5mins (or idk whats a fair time) are excluded from the leaderboards
autumn fog
@autumn fog there are many other reasons for why people are against it, for example they make win rate completely worthless
@daring hatch they're literally worthless, They're only a number, like 58934 is a number. What changes?
vale gyro
Ah, Clan Quests.
daring hatch
@daring hatch they're literally worthless, They're only a number, like 58934 is a number. What changes?
@autumn fog bruh
vale gyro
Wait no
daring hatch
They are an index of skill
vale gyro
Custom games, sorry. Was my mistake.
daring hatch
Of course they are worthless to you since you don't play the game, that's the whole point
pallid merlin
@daring hatch Please let staff handle it, to not stir up more drama
upper depot
Wait a moment, who are against the farm/grind? (i got lose)
pallid merlin
@upper depot This isn't #dev-vote, this is #feedback-readonly
autumn fog
They are an index of skill
@daring hatch I repeat, a player's skill is not determined by the games it has won or lost.
languid cape
Then what is it determined by?
daring hatch
@daring hatch I repeat, a player's skill is not determined by the games it has won or lost.
@autumn fog it is, of course it's not a perfect system but it's indicative
Why do you say it's not??
paper ginkgo
Wait a moment, who are against the farm/grind? (i got lose)
@upper depot Marnew and Psychosis
pallid merlin
There's no perfect way to determine someone's skill and this channel isn't #debate
Please go to #wov-chat if you want to discuss about that
autumn fog
There's no perfect way to determine someone's skill and this channel isn't #debate
Please go to #wov-chat if you want to discuss about that
@pallid merlin exactly, @daring hatch @languid cape I'm going to give you the answer in the mentioned channel. I don't want to flood this chat anymore in respect of staff members.
pallid merlin
Thanks
daring hatch
Sure
autumn fog
#feedback-readonly message whenever the situation lets it, I'd like to receive an answer. Anyway, I want to thanks everyone for your work, whether what you do is right or wrong. I hope that a compromise will be reached.
According to the actual situation where there's literally chaos everywhere, I suggest to temporarily close all channels since it seems like a war between grind players and old players. One solution could be to inform the devs about what you've read and make a "referendum" where everyone votes to bring back xp farms with little changes or to keep them like now.
pallid merlin
We prefer not to close channels unless we can't control it moderation-speaking
autumn fog
We prefer not to close channels unless we can't control it moderation-speaking
@pallid merlin is it possible to add slowmode?
There's a huge amount of spam and it hurts.
vital skiff
I'd like to suggest a change for custom/boosting games that I hope will be a good middle ground. I suggest that custom games only count towards gaining xp for the battle pass and clan quests. This kind of xp wouldn't apply to leveling up or leaderboards, and it wouldn't count towards win counts, loss counts, tie counts, achievements, or any sort of role stats. This way players can still get the xp they need for quests and passes, but they won't be affecting any of the other stats that the majority of non-boosters seem to dislike seeing be affected.
lyric rock
According to the actual situation where there's literally chaos everywhere, I suggest to temporarily close all channels since it seems like a war between grind players and old players. One solution could be to inform the devs about what you've read and make a "referendum" where everyone votes to bring back xp farms with little changes or to keep them like now.
@autumn fog I AM BOTH(?) or not, I play since february 2019
vale gyro
@vital skiff It's already in #feedback-devs! Just vote for it
vital skiff
Oh it already is, nice-
vale gyro
Most recent suggestion there
pallid merlin
@autumn fog Slowmode is usually being considered if there's too many messages for staff to handle properly
At the moment, I think it's more calm (and doesn't contain anything too bad/hard to handle)
autumn fog
Ohh, alright.
honest pilot
I don't consider General as "calm" at the moment...........
pallid merlin
Not calm but still handlable
honest pilot
You sure? guess I saw some random unharmful comments get deleted, including mine at some point.
Oh, the reason I doubt Mods and Devs team at this point was how far they can neglect Playerbase without knowing
There's many occasion I could list.
1.Post a poll to let people's vote, then deleted it and pretend nothing happened. Then why even post it if knowing they're not gonna make it?
2.Banning innocent players from what I could say 'the worst person to listen to'. One of my clan leader got banned for shooting Jailer after fake Detective's info, while victim themselves never claim and the other did, the one reported my clan leader goes tantrum just because mistakes happened. Then the Mods never digs down what really happened and took a shortcut.
3.Randomly removed my message in General chat while what I just texted was how people can do uncommon sense even if their game's levels are high. My eyes saw right as it's disappeared to oblivion, care to explain why?
Also, these are all peaceful message, not what you claim as 'rude'. If these get deleted, seems I have to leave.
sick cave
Well im pretty much tired of this whole situation so here are some points I got from it:
- Make a system that scans the average gametime of a profile before its admitted to the leaderboards
- Make games that are shorter then 3 minutes not count toward your stats
- A new mode for XP farming that doesn't count towards your stats (maybe make it cost gold)
- Make costum lobbies not count towards your stats
- Level brackets for quickplay and sandbox (50+,100+)
vale gyro
5 has been suggested hundreds of times, always denied.
4 is the most recent suggestion in #feedback-devs so please vote it there
pallid merlin
@autumn fog So hopefully I understood your messages correctly
Your first message seems like it's more "focusing on fixing old (bad) stuff rather than new features"
Game is getting monotonous: There are some staff members working on better setups (quick game), I'll show them your message
No new roles/feature: Not sure what to do with that tbf but I'll try asking devs (I won't be able to give you the answer though - that'd be leaking)
Your second message, I actually don't get what you mean with sorcerer, I'm confused as to whether you're for or against being proud for sorc achievement 
From what I understand: (new?) boosting players being faster than (old?) "regular" players
-> I get your concerns but how would you change it, by removing cg from achievements?
Third message: vote has been suggested, I'll discuss it with other staff members
sick cave
@vale gyro yes, sorry. But I wanted to put it together incase this post gets anywhere.
spiral frost
Where can i vote for dismiss this stup1ds suggerences
sick cave
@spiral frost learn how to be respectful first please.
spiral frost
...
pallid merlin
@honest pilot
1 - vote has been suggested, I'll discuss it with other staff members
2 - Guardians check report before banning 🤔 If any user desires to contest their ban, they are free to do so
3 - One of your messages has indeed been removed, it was about users misplaying
@spiral frost There's no "dismissing" suggestions, this channel is for posting suggestions and see if they fit to be posted in #feedback-devs (or elsewhere if needed)
spiral frost
@spiral frost There's no "dismissing" suggestions, this channel is for posting suggestions and see if they fit to be posted in #feedback-devs (or elsewhere if needed)
@pallid merlin thanks for saying the channel
honest pilot
users misplaying
@pallid merlinuser......misplaying?
pallid merlin
@sick cave
1 - That seems like a subsuggestion of checking leaderboards in general so I won't post it (since the base suggestion to filter leaderboards doesn't seem to be a thing for now)
2 - Same as above, with a few additions: it was the case before (minimum 6 minutes for getting custom game xp) and got changed to give more place to "fair" custom game setups
3 - Pretty sure I've seen that one being forwarded to devs before + seeing the latest change, I don't think they're looking for that at the moment 🤔
4 & 5 - Very suggested, won't repost
@honest pilot misplaying being a more formal & nice way of calling other noobs/saying they can't play
runic dragon
We should be able to sell talismams for gold or gems.
We would be able to sell a talisman for 5 gems
Or for 75 gold
honest pilot
ok then
sick cave
@runic dragon the gem thing won't happen since it would give users a way to generate free gems
pallid merlin
Hey @runic dragon
That is often suggested and the latest repost is there, you can upvote it:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/740751773274210306
Thanks for suggesting
autumn fog
@pallid merlin (sorry for ping but isn't the case to quote the whole message).
I've been talking with my compatriots in my lounge, and we've reached the fact that the game needs a team behind it. A good game like Werewolf Online needs a huge work, and I understand it, but I understand too that with only 2 persons behind it, it could cause some problems, as you can see.
Some roles are still in sandbox, and imo the game needs a huge update, since new quick games rotations won't break monotony as many of us have already tried them in sandbox mode. Grinders do that because they think it's useless spending 10 minutes of their life on playing a game and eventually winning it for 65 xp or 130 xp or losing it. Imo, you should do a time jump and bring back everything as it was yesterday. I don't completely understand why people are afraid of their stats, since everything except of ranked games is a non-competitive thing.
honest pilot
Won't cancel refund tho, since I also realized it's not worth a purchase.
vale gyro
Iirc they don't take refunds anyway.
runic dragon
Suggestions: option to decrease ban time for gold, because currently the only option for this is by watching ads
floral heath
thats a pro gamer move
orchid relic
did anyone suggest enabling emotes first night in custom games ? 
pallid merlin
@autumn fog No worries about the ping
I'll discuss your feedback with other staff members since it's a rather unusual type of feedback
@runic dragon You mean suicide bans I suppose?
@orchid relic Yes, quite a bunch of people
orchid relic
what do developers think about 
runic dragon
@runic dragon You mean suicide bans I suppose?
@pallid merlin well currently i only got banned for suicides, idk how other ones work
pallid merlin
Other bans are non-shortenable
I'll see if it's been posted before and if not, I'll add it to #feedback-devs
Thanks for suggesting
autumn fog
I got another suggestion, since they call me a "destroyer" because, I admit, I grinded too with xp farms, I want to remind that everything except for ranked games is not a competitive game. For that, I suggest to remove or directly move the actual profile's highscores in ranked games, so boosting won't have problems anymore since only xp gained by ranked games will count on that leaderboard.
And everything can return to be normal.
daring hatch
Quickgame and sandbox are still competitive, even though less serious
autumn fog
When you play a quick game or sandbox game, your goal is to have fun, not to be better than others.
daring hatch
People in sb and qg play to win, admittedly they are pretty bad at it, but still
When you play a quick game or sandbox game, your goal is to have fun, not to be better than others.
@autumn fog your goal is still to win
That's why you can be reported for gamethrowing in sb and qg too
nocturne wharf
I got another suggestion, since they call me a "destroyer" because, I admit, I grinded too with xp farms, I want to remind that everything except for ranked games is not a competitive game. For that, I suggest to remove or directly move the actual profile's highscores in ranked games, so boosting won't have problems anymore since only xp gained by ranked games will count on that leaderboard.
@autumn fog I see what you mean. Maybe there could be two leaderboards.
One for gq/sb and one for ranked. The ranked one could be separated in xp and skill points.
autumn fog
No, there hasn't to be any kind of leaderboard anymore for normal games, since a competitive mode exists, and it's normally called ranked game.
In normal games your goal is to win and stop. You don't win to reach something, you win and it ends there.
runic dragon
The gunner description mention: You cannot shoot during the first day discussion phase
It should be You cannot shoot during the first days discussion phase or during nighttime
sick cave
@runic dragon it already says "only one bullet can be fired per day"
pallid merlin
@autumn fog I don't think I've seen that suggestion before and the reasoning behind stands
I'll check if it's been posted and if not, I'll add it to #feedback-devs
Thanks for suggesting
autumn fog
You are welcome.
pallid merlin
@runic dragon That's a fair point, I'll add it to #feedback-devs
Thanks for suggesting
runic dragon
As for example cupid or fortune teller, spirit seer should be able to change their chosen persons too
autumn fog
Another (difficult) solution could be dividing normal levels and boosted levels. To level up normal levels, you must play normal games like now, if you want to level up boosted levels, you must play xp farms.
runic dragon
Skill based matchmaking- if in sb or in quick game the game will search for player with the same or very simmilar skill.
Whats skill im quick game and sb? The % stats.
warm helm
@runic dragon the original suggestion contained even less extra information. additionally, i think it is pretty clear what it is actually suggested. but if you have any ideas which i should add, feel free to let me know
@drowsy tulip
3) using gold to buy the slots, reduscing the price, making the slots cheaper and more expensive the more you buy have all been suggested before. since gems werent introduced when that suggestion was made, this hasnt been posted yet. about your leveling up, on which levels would which character slots be unlocked? do you have any suggestion for that?
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the fan art idea seems amazing! and the carnival themed idea hasnt been suggested before, so i will give it a post to #feedback-devs
feel free to ping me again once you reply!
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this has been denied because it is not possible currently and additionally, it isnt high on the priority list either. the normal skin tones fit with most outfits and most single items while with new skin tones it wont really. we try to make every item fit with every skin tone. some designers worked around this by using a mask to get a different skin tone. see the alien and zombie clan quest as an example 😉
@zenith venture in that way it seems really interesting, i will see what happens when i give it a #feedback-devs post, thanks for your suggestion!
for all other players, another staff member will come to help you as soon as they can, please be patient!
blazing cosmos
Give former staff members a former staff member role
runic dragon
give inkyyy guardian
drowsy tulip
@warm helm
For the character slots, I think it would be great to unlock one at lv. 75, then another one at lv. 150 and that's it. With a total of 3+2 free slots at level 150 it would be perfect, so players can use their roses to buy and collect more avatar items or spin the rose wheel without having to worry about character slots.
Talking about rose wheel, I just realized I forgot to mention about it too while writing the "Free gold" background suggestion. Maybe we can have like a rose garden background for the rose wheel.
slim oracle
Why don’t we get xp in a custom game with kww anymore
runic dragon
• New spectating mode : God mode
Players on God mode are basically spectators and they can see everyone's roles and also select a player to see the game as their way and they can change selection at any time. They can't speak in dead chat. God mode can be useful especially on the Werewolf Online Champion Ship for commentators and judges.
normal wyvern
Give former staff members a former staff member role
@blazing cosmos I can redirect it to the mods but I think this was already suggested before but probably denied by them. I will ask
runic dragon
We should be able to exclude more than 3 roles in random roles, it doesn't seem like much to me. Also for people who want to do some sort of custom ranked match (exclude paci, mayor, ft, ww reg etc) I propose to widen the role exclusions of the random roles up to 5 or 7!
normal wyvern
Why don’t we get xp in a custom game with kww anymore
@slim oracle Hey hey, this is a new update to balance custom games a bit more. It makes it quite unbalanced when kitten ww is in the game. To make it fair, they removed kitten ww from XP requirements
slim oracle
Ah to bad it was good for battle pass
normal wyvern
• New spectating mode : God mode
Players on God mode are basically spectators and they can see everyone's roles and also select a player to see the game as their way and they can change selection at any time. They can't speak in dead chat. God mode can be useful especially on the Werewolf Online Champion Ship for commentators and judges.
@runic dragon Hey hey, it is a nice idea but can encourage giving out information to others when they are in the game and give them a chance to gamethrow. However I don't think it would be good to have
We should be able to exclude more than 3 roles in random roles, it doesn't seem like much to me. Also for people who want to do some sort of custom ranked match (exclude paci, mayor, ft, ww reg etc) I propose to widen the role exclusions of the random roles up to 5 or 7!
@runic dragon Hey hey, I understand your thoughts but it might have it as well a bit too unbalanced when you can exclude more than 3 roles. Keep in mind that it should be a balanced set up. ^^ Thank you for your suggestion
runic dragon
No, in ranked, There are more than 3 roles which is deleted in the random roles (seer app, mayor, paci, Wolf paci, santas Claus, ww reg, kww) @normal wyvern
normal wyvern
Normal set ups in custom games are connected to Quick Play and Sandbox set ups, not Ranked
runic dragon
@normal wyvern well gamethrowing is reportable
normal wyvern
of course but I don't think it would be good to encourage it by these gamemodes
autumn fog
@azure adder (sorry for ping), you said that you would have talked with other staff members about what we've talked before... is it possible to know the result of your discussion? ^^'
(even if you have already had it)
I did another suggestion: #feedback-readonly message
normal wyvern
@runic dragon Giving outside of the game information. Even they can't talk with the deaths, it could be a higher risks then
runic dragon
I mean just for the current event
judges and commentators wouldn't give infos
basically
sick cave
That's doesn't really sound interesting, since you wouldn't really need a game analyst or commentary if you can see everything, plus a huge delay would need to be added to those events
normal wyvern
@runic dragon They usually don't add things for a specific time. The developer are not founders of wwocs, so they don't have to add it for an event
autumn fog
I want you to know that I've just seen they've already found another method to do xp farms without 
. They just removed a pair of roles and continue to gamethrow. Instead of thinking about restrictions to stop this, just allow them. I'd like to repeat: quick games and sandbox games aren't competitive, a competitive zone exists and it's called ranked games. I assure everyone that nobody cares about how many games you have won/loss etc. since nowadays a level 3 gunner (for example) could be skilled as a level 1000. The stats doesn't make the player, and honestly I'm not dumb though I have 47% loss rate and 10% suicide rate, thanks.
fast sphinx
I accidentally gave the microphone permission and to remove this I had to uninstall the game, I recommend adding an option in the settings to enable or disable, it's really annoying.
autumn fog
I'd like to receive answers only from staff members too, thanks to everyone but I passed this afternoon to debate with people who care most about their stats and not the game.
whole mist
I miss kww in customs made game fun!!!!!! Please bring back!!
vital skiff
Kww is still in custom games.
autumn fog
Lol I think it's the last suggestion and probably the most downrated but I suggest to remove the stats, so xp farms won't be a problem anymore. :I
Isn't possible that a game has to rotate around people's proud, imo.
vital skiff
Probably gonna be downrated because removing stats wouldn't halt xp farms.
slim oracle
They should keep xp farms but without lvling so xp only for battle pass and clan quest
autumn fog
Probably gonna be downrated because removing stats wouldn't halt xp farms.
@vital skiff sorry if I answer there but if you want we can discuss in #wov-chat. The problem is the presence of stats. People feel realized with them without an apparent reason to our eyes. Sincerely, do you care if I've won 43325 games or loss 59034 games? I think no. :I
solemn gazelle
Please improve quest shuffle system. We shuffled 60++ times and still can't find 'Candy (Doughnut girl)' quest.
lean smelt
I want you to know that I've just seen they've already found another method to do xp farms without
@autumn fog can u dm to tell me how to do xp farm :3
autumn fog
No.
blazing cosmos
give inkyyy guardian
@runic dragon I meann... I'm not gonna turn it down
normal wyvern
@fast sphinx You can usually do this in the app settings
@autumn fog Hey, I don't see any feedback to this message, so I can't give any opinion to this.
@slim oracle Hey, XP counts for all and not for only specific things. This could cause bugs. Thank you for your suggestion anyways
@solemn gazelle Hey, you get a random set of quests. That's how the system works
solemn gazelle
Yea but would you please to improve it a little bit like avatars who have shuffled get less probability to be shown next. It will be really helpful
runic dragon
Dark mode when
autumn fog
@autumn fog Hey, I don't see any feedback to this message, so I can't give any opinion to this.
@normal wyvern #feedback-readonly message
runic dragon
@solemn gazelle Please don't add reaction to provoke or downgrade someone else's feedback
nah
normal wyvern
@solemn gazelle Yea, I could post that in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion! ❤️
@runic dragon Dark mode has been suggested before and is up to the developer. Thank you for your suggestion
fast sphinx
@fast sphinx You can usually do this in the app settings :floofthink:
@normal wyvern uhm, where? I checked and I don't find anything.
autumn fog
Add xp boosters that will be obtainable from ad wheel, lootboxes and bought from shop in that order (they are not stackable):
2x boosters:
30 minutes > 25 gold
1 hour > 75 gold
3 hours > 125 gold
12 hours > 600 gold
24 hours > 1200 gold
3 days > 2500 gold
3x boosters:
30 minutes > 50 gold
1 hour > 100 gold
3 hours > 250 gold
12 hours > 800 gold
24 hours > 1500 gold
3 days > 3200 gold
And other boosters...
pure totem
Change time reduced from watching an ad for a suicide ban from 3 minutes to 1 minute. Players shouldnt get off easy for a ban by watching 3 ads
supple coral
Hi, i think we should be able to resize our face parts in game like mouth, eyes etc.
pallid merlin
@autumn fog (really, don't worry about the ping)
Busy evening so I asked now, though depending on the result it's likely I won't be able to share it
Dividing levels: That's also sort of going with the idea of not counting boosted xp for levels/stats, I don't think posting it is a good idea since it's not really different
New method: I understand you want it to be tolerated and stop restrictions but currently devs prefer to reduce the abusable potential of xp farms (note: last time some xp was nerfed, I collected a lot of feedback about xp in general so they're already aware of a lot of issues regarding the topic)
autumn fog
Ohh, alright.
clever halo
Add the priest's description that his function is revealed after using the ability.
warm helm
@solemn gazelle dont post rude reactions 😉
@drowsy tulip okay makes sense! i will see what it does if i give it a post to #feedback-devs. thanks for the idea! 
spiral frost
I have a question @pallid merlin sorry of the ping, why the suggestion of don’t emojis in the first night have 165 negative and 65 positive and that suggestion have agree and there are other suggestions with more positives votes and not put in the game
It is injust
pallid merlin
Votes don't do everything, they just inform devs of what the (discord) community thinks
autumn fog
spiral frost
To who is that message??
autumn fog
Staff members.
spiral frost
Oka
Yea the community apport to the aprovation
@spiral frost ...
But this is not the community
@spiral frost ...
pliant nova
Is this where we talk to the devs
vital skiff
It's where you give suggestions for the staff to maybe pass onto devs
kind mesa
Hey @pure totem, thank you for your feedback! Ill add it to #feedback-devs! Have a nice day! 
runic dragon
thanks
kind mesa
Hi @supple coral, thats really cool! Ill post it in #feedback-devs, thank you! Have a nice day! 
Hello @clever halo, this has been suggested, you can vote for it here: #feedback-devs message Thank you, have a nice day!
Hi @VKGhostHacker#7126! Here you can give feedback or suggest anything about the game and a staff member post it in #feedback-devs for the devs. Feel free to give feedback or suggest anything!^^
worn basin
Harsher punishments for suicides.
I feel that I commonly see people with suicide rates 20-30%, heck I've seen some with 35%. Why aren't these perm banned, or receiving harsher punishment? They still got access to Ranked and sandbox like everyone else do too?
It feels unfair when someone just quit imidiately when they didn't get a role they wanted, while everyone else try their best.
Quiters seems like winners, if you look aside temporarily ban. Suicide doesn't affect their Win/Loss score, they can move on to a new game while their teammates has to play with a disadvantage and probably get a loss for it.
fiery walrus
Meu feedback é que esse jogo tá morrendo e vocês tão ajudando pra que fique tão entendiante proibindo os farms. Imagina criar um jogo e não lançar sequer uma atualização que melhore o pífio 2D, sendo que a única graça de jogar é NÃO JOGAR CORRETAMENTE pra conseguir roupinha de padrão branco :+1:
spiral frost
Pls English
reef pewter
my translator translated this @spiral frost :
My feedback is that this game is dying and you are helping to make it so boring by banning farms. Imagine creating a game and not even launching an update that improves the 2D average, and the only fun to play is DO NOT PLAY CORRECTLY to get a white patternup thumbsup
ornate hearth
We have brazilian helpers in there, no need to translate
spiral frost
my translator translated this @spiral frost :
@reef pewter thanks ❤️
runic dragon
Harsher punishments for suicides.
I feel that I commonly see people with suicide rates 20-30%, heck I've seen some with 35%. Why aren't these perm banned, or receiving harsher punishment? They still got access to Ranked and sandbox like everyone else do too?
It feels unfair when someone just quit imidiately when they didn't get a role they wanted, while everyone else try their best.
Quiters seems like winners, if you look aside temporarily ban. Suicide doesn't affect their Win/Loss score, they can move on to a new game while their teammates has to play with a disadvantage and probably get a loss for it.
i would add that maybe people with high rates should get longer ban for commiting
//and it should start when u have got 100 games played
spiral frost
I think 150 games
Because In 100 games there also people without so much experience playing
unborn drum
hello, im old user for this game! and i still love this game. WWO become the longest game that installed in my phone, congrats developer teams!
but i have some concern and hope WWO teams can take it as input. In ranked game, as villager, when lose get more - point then + point when win, as we know many player playing like a dumb people, and its alot.... sometimes more than 10. How can people want going up to the next level with this composition and this condition. I hope there is more filter for player so who playing in ranked is a player who ready to play seriously, and for game point, i hope there is another formulation so each player can get point fairly.
Thanks, good job for WWO teams!
hello, im old user for this game! and i still love this game. WWO become the longest game that installed in my phone, congrats developer teams!
but i have some concern and hope WWO teams can take it as input. In ranked game, as villager, when lose get more - point then + point when win, as we know many player playing like a dumb people, and its alot.... sometimes more than 10. How can people want going up to the next level with this composition and this condition. I hope there is more filter for player so who playing in ranked is a player who ready to play seriously, and for game point, i hope there is another formulation so each player can get point fairly.
Thanks, good job for WWO teams!
@unborn drum i just want to say sorry if there some mistake in choosing word, and i hope all of you still understand what i said there
runic dragon
Could the S&K fruit items come back annually around Christmas time? I’m very sure that many people wish to have those items back!
eternal abyss
Hi - for some time I've been talking with people I met in game about it and they all seemed to like my idea and told me to pitch it to you so here I am I think placement games would be much better if there were divided into two groups: bronze and silver players would have their placement games and gold and plat player would have theirs. In the bronze/silver you would start from bronze and in the gold/plat you would start from gold. If you were e.g. in the first group and win all your placement games you would be only one win away from gold after placement games. And if you were in a gold/plat games and perform poorly you'd drop down. The specifics could vary a little but to be honest I feel like in ranked we gold/plat players are really tired from having to climb back up to our leagues from bronze every month just because less experienced players random vote or throw game in any way. I know I'd love that ^^
sudden pumice
A suggested balance for the Cannibal 
Make the Cannibal unable to stack more than 3 hungers at night. The actual maximum is 5. Why? This change would force the cannibals not to go too greedy, as too many players nowadays do.
What about the same poll as above but with the Cannibal being restricted to a maximum of 4 hungers?
I wrote that this is a ‘Suggested balance/Buff’ but not a ‘Nerf’. At first sight, everybody would be like, how is this a buff??it should be a huge nerf right??
But actually no, It is actually a small buff atleast for the evils. The biggest problem is in most of the sb/qg/low ranked games, Cannibals tend to stack their kills till night 5 and then kill at night 5. But, most of them die without killing(die day 4/3) by going greedy. If you killed on n3 then evils might outnumber village and it increases your chance of winning. But now when you don’t kill obviously other evils are not able to kill that many villagers and eventually get outnumbered by the village.
A suggested change for the Cannibal
A Cannibal should not be able to kill night 1.
A Cannibal should be able to use his stacks to have desired kills instead of going for a lucky n1 kill. if you don't use your n1 stack, then you ignore an advantage that is given to the Cannibal over Serial Killer.
runic dragon
how do I send an idea of function? need some authorization to post to the vote channel?
normal wyvern
@worn basin Good morning, harder punishments for suicides are known, especially when they do it in a short time.
At the moment they only get a suicide ban for 10 minutes, while this increases when you do it in a short time. Permanent are not possible at all and would not be a way for suicide bans.
However it is up to the developer in contact with the guardians who decide this.
Thank you for your thoughts. ❤️
@fiery walrus
Bom dia,
Não compreendo bem o seu feedback, uma vez que não há ideia de como pensa que o sistema pode ser melhorado. O jogo não morre se muitas pessoas o jogarem e ainda o estiverem a descarregar.
As quintas de EXP serão reforçadas para que as pessoas não recolham demasiada EXP para terem uma vantagem. Isto é injusto para todos.
Por favor, fale inglês da próxima vez aqui.
@reef pewter Thank you for your help! ❤️
@runic dragon @spiral frost Good morning. Interesting idea but as I said before: They are suggested before with reasons, yes. It is now up to the developer to discuss this with the guardians
@runic dragon Hey, they were limited during this time. I will post it in #feedback-devs anyways.
@sudden pumice Good morning. I don't agree with Cannibal not being able to kill in night 1. It might be stacked up but the other solo roles are able to use them at the first night. However I will post the first thing. Thank you for your suggestion
@runic dragon Hey, if you have an idea for the gsme you can post it here.
sudden pumice
@normal wyvern thx for posting the first suggestion but if a cannibal plays like serial killer risking killing a fool night 1 then canni isn't using his buff properly
normal wyvern
This is up to the user and their own risk, to be honest. Everyone should try to find their own way to play roles and should not by any role strategy
@unborn drum Good morning! This had been commonly suggested and is up to the developer to add something like this. Thank you for your suggestion ❤️
@runic dragon ahh, a role idea. My bad, this goes to #role-ideas-readonly
runic dragon
ah ok sorry i will correct it and send it ^^
normal wyvern
@eternal abyss Hey hey, this has been suggested before but this one might be the beneficialst one. They also got some other ideas for this. Thank you for your suggestion!
No worries!
runic dragon
Hey guys! I was going To start a quest and just discovering that able/disable quest was written in French! But... little problem about that... it takes too many place 😅
To able it's ok... but disable... 😅
glacial warren
@zGioele10_#4559 hey 👋so first of all, that's an interesting idea and could help for quests and such, but at the same time there is already the double xp feature, wouldn't it be unnecessary when this gets added? Additionally, I think you want to find a solution, it won't change anything on this situation, they just level even faster. A difference would be if it is not usable in custom games but this leads to them playing quick games and gamethrow etc.
You now would say, that it's not the same because it's golf and fairly expensive, but at the same time there is no issue in getting the gold with 1 ad 🤔
@zGioele10_#4559
Smh 
@autumn fog
@Ewilan38#6891 hey, would you have a suggestion to make it shorter, which doesn't change the meaning in best case?
@runic dragon
praise school wifi
autumn fog
@glacial warren (sorry for ping but I don't want to quote the whole message).
Maybe is it possible to have a chance to have 3x or 4x xp button at the end of the game instead of 2x?
I mean, you got a chance to have 3x or 4x xp by watching the ads.
That's more casual since that doesn't condition the game. (?)
glacial warren
So you can watch multiple ads?
autumn fog
Yes. Something like this.
But not so much I mean, it's not an op thing.
Just 2-3 ads when the 3x or 4x xp button appears.
glacial warren
But if all do that, then what would be the positive thing in it?
autumn fog
Some grinders could decide to play normally and they can't gamethrow
In order to avoid grind lobbies, make that those buttons appears only if you play solo
I mean, this button appears only if you play without inviting your friends
autumn fog
No, since xp farms have been already removed and recently I've seen some grinders that have already found other methods to farm
And the custom games seems like a gamethrow lobby imo
At this moment
I don't remember who but a mod said that devs are aware of the xp issue and the problem of gaining xp so I thought this could help
runic dragon
@glacial warren let me thing of it 😊😅
guys ı have a night sound
ı find free sounds
autumn fog
@runic dragon #sound-ideas
autumn fog
ı cant
@runic dragon you have to read devs's messages
late vortex
there are free prizes on discord?
glacial warren
So as conclusion your suggestion is "Make is possible to watch more ads to double xp more than once (maybe x3) in {maybe ?exchange for gold or a maximum of times per day/hour?}. This can only be in quick game or sandbox and if you play alone to avoide gamethrowing. This can convince players, which normally do xp farms, to play in a real game to get xp without gamethrowing"? @autumn fog
runic dragon
okı
autumn fog
So as conclusion your suggestion is "Make is possible to watch more ads to double xp more than once (maybe x3) in {maybe ?exchange for gold or a maximum of times per day/hour?}. This can only be in quick game or sandbox and if you play alone to avoide gamethrowing. This can convince players, which normally do xp farms, to play in a real game to get xp without gamethrowing"? @autumn fog
@glacial warren yes. But I'm not telling that this button has to appear every time. Make that as a chance, so grinders could play and wait until the end to know how much xp they would get... I mean, the feelings of the surprise won't bore them anymore. (?)
And won't encourage them to do gamethrowing lobbies since this won't work
runic dragon
@glacial warren so I didn't find something for activer/désactiver but I think we can change something for the underboss: instead of rétrograder maybe we can write "retirer" and instead of promouvoir we can say "nommer"
glacial warren
I wouldn't go with a possibility to get the button, rather with you can x3 your xp x time a day. Like that they also wait till the end because they don't know if its worth the ad 🤔@autumn fog
runic dragon
It's shorter and maybe it would be ok
autumn fog
I wouldn't go with a possibility to get the button, rather with you can x3 your xp x time a day. Like that they also wait till the end because they don't know if its worth the ad 🤔@autumn fog
@glacial warren so is it better to have them every time but you have to wait and watch more ads to get them?
blissful elk
i send it but it cant look
glacial warren
@runic dragon will redirect it, thanks for your time!
runic dragon
You're welcome 😁
glacial warren
@blissful elk bugs go in #bugs-readonly ;) and try to restart your game and clearing the cache, it should normally help ❤️
autumn fog
If it can help, I had the same problem and I had to simply update the game from the store
halcyon wigeon
Please make ip bans
It's so annoying players gamethrowi for fun and when they get banned they simply play on a diff account
And continue to do the same
glacial warren
@autumn fog I mean as in, you play a game, th button appears and you can only x3 30 times a day {example} you have to decide after the game if its worth x3 or not 🤔 but I would not make it unlimited. The fact that you should win so triple xp is worth it, may convince them to try it and play properly
halcyon wigeon
Also it would be very nice to filter players by lvl, don't make lvl 1000 play with lvl 2
autumn fog
@autumn fog I mean as in, you play a game, th button appears and you can only x3 30 times a day {example} you have to decide after the game if its worth x3 or not 🤔 but I would not make it unlimited. The fact that you should win so triple xp is worth it, may convince them to try it and play properly
@glacial warren maybe you can make this button appear only in 15-20 games per day, so no one gets boosted and this will remain balanced? 🤔
glacial warren
@halcyon wigeon splitting after levels is highly suggested, but to be fair, levels say nothing about experience. As we talk about grinding here right now, there are players with level 3000 and they didn't play 10 proper games => don't have actual experience other than the grinding and easy win lobbies ^^:
Additional new players should learn from the more experienced players. If you don't see how to do it, how do you want to learn it?
Still thank you very much for the suggestion!
halcyon wigeon
Yes but a player 100+ is more likely to be a decent player
U can't expect lvl 1-20 to suicide first night
glacial warren
As in my text above, no
halcyon wigeon
Doc suicides for ex are usually very low lvl players
Then filter them from 30 up and the lower play together
glacial warren
I already saw players with level 600 suiciding and the most high levels I meet are either afk, suicide or gamethrow 🤷🤔
halcyon wigeon
Completely no filtering doesn't make them learn cause they simply suicide
Well I'm not saying it doesn't happen
But it's rare
In lvl 2? Common
glacial warren
Actually I play a lot and as mentioned, most do it as I said 🤔
There are also lvl 1 banned players already
halcyon wigeon
Well since they can simply make new accounts ban doesn't work
glacial warren
Level says nothing about experience at all 🤷 I would prefer to play with 15 level 50 players over 15 level 3k players tbh
@autumn fog sorry I got distracted, your version sounds random based, but wouldn't it be more beneficial for everyone if they can choose when they want to use it?
If we think about it, most players would never use it if they lost but if the button does not appear when they won as solo killer... It is pretty demotivating, isn't it? That's why I would go with a choice 🤔
halcyon wigeon
In my experience higher lvl's do better most of the time
autumn fog
@autumn fog sorry I got distracted, your version sounds random based, but wouldn't it be more beneficial for everyone if they can choose when they want to use it?
If we think about it, most players would never use it if they lost but if the button does not appear when they won as solo killer... It is pretty demotivating, isn't it? That's why I would go with a choice 🤔
@glacial warren ohh yes I understand now, I was thinking about the same thing. It would be great to have them limited, but we can choose when we want to use them.
glacial warren
As I said a few times levels say nothing about experience and skill and also said before, new players should learn from experience ones, how do you want to learn if nobody shows u how 🤔
autumn fog
Some months ago my suggestion about making a tutorial for every role and not even only for seer got posted and rated a lot afaik. Is it possible to repost it again maybe?
#feedback-devs message
halcyon wigeon
U learn by playing and after a few games u see what is happening
They don't need help xd just experience
glacial warren
Hm I don't think a repost is needed at the moment since we also have a database where it will be added from us => devs have access there and can see everything, including the vote as such
So I think it may be interesting to post your idea about the double xp, if you want I would post it but I would take as requirement, that it has to be a solo quick or sandbox game and Max x times per day to avoide gamethrowing 🤔@autumn fog
@halcyon wigeon okay soo let's assume you are level 1. You are in a lobby with 15 level 1, what will happen?
halcyon wigeon
Well they okay over and over and after sometime they all get the hang of it and no one else suffers
autumn fog
Ohh, alright.
Yes, it would be fine to post that "double double xp" suggestion with those requirements, let's see the opinion of the community. 🤔
halcyon wigeon
It's annoying losing beacuse someone else has no idea how to play
Also I'm not saying only lvl 1 should play with lvl 1 it could be 1-50
The. 51 up
With everyone else
glacial warren
To be fair, that's wrong, if you are in a lobby with completely new players, then non of them knows what to do at all, nobody talks, nobody gives info while in mixed lobbies they see when someone asks for information, they see when someone uses their role etc.
Additional if you split lobbies it is getting bored since you most likely always play with the same persons 🤷 I can say that from experience at 4am German quick games where they just all got annoyed.
In this game it's about ließ etc, but if you always play with the same person, then you know when they lie and their tecniques 🤔
For another mention => level says nothing about experience, it would encourage grinding to be able to play in high level lobbies and not attacking anyone, but as mentioned before, grinders partly did not play 10 real games before
halcyon wigeon
Why the same person if it were 1-50 and 51 and up we would get new players
Also there is a ton on players 51 up
glacial warren
@autumn fog I just named it like that to not make it 1 sentence for the word xD
halcyon wigeon
So I would see same ppl only sometime which for me is nice
Like a friendly reunion
glacial warren
I already game you a lot of reasons 🤷
So as conclusion your suggestion is "Make is possible to watch more ads to double xp more than once (maybe x3) in {maybe ?exchange for gold or a maximum of times per day/hour?}. This can only be in quick game or sandbox and if you play alone to avoide gamethrowing. This can convince players, which normally do xp farms, to play in a real game to get xp without gamethrowing"? @autumn fog
@glacial warren so this is fine?
autumn fog
@autumn fog I just named it like that to not make it 1 sentence for the word xD
@glacial warren maybe you can name it as "3x and 4x xp buttons". 🤔😂
Yes, that's fine. ☺️
glacial warren
totally not a long name to write 3x and 4x xp buttin < it's name now
autumn fog
😂
Thanks Hyde.
Anyway, maybe I'd like to suggest to change the night sound into a Christmas's song like if Santa is coming? (idk how it's called the song that mimics the reindeers's arrival)
This would start from the 1st of December.
honest pilot
Well, I take that back. All those people salty about Custom Xp including me.
They just found an easy way, once it's banned they goes tantrum because they're at disadvantage.
I would suggest just make Custom games gives no Xps at all to gives a fairground and bring the real purpose of this Gamemode : Experiment and Fun.
runic dragon
Heyy, I would like to suggest that the advent calender should also be able to buy with gold like the battle pass 😊
fickle beacon
@autumn fog Hey 👋🏻 Most of these songs have copyright, so it’s not possible to have them in game. Thanks for suggesting, tho
@honest pilot Hello 
Custom games just started giving xp and I think it’s not fair for the players that are playing normal set ups with they were removed again. However, there was a suggestion about the xp involving farms and you can check and vote here: #feedback-devs message
@runic dragon Hi 👋🏻 No info about how we can buy the advent calendar was released. Let’s wait for the announcement!
rigid moss
I think headhunter’s target should be revealed to everyone at the end of the game so we can analyze the game better
Like in the game over screen i mean
runic dragon
@fickle beacon hi 😇
I could buy the advent calendar right now and you can't buy it with gold
weak lark
just wanted to ask if you are going to add arabic servers? because there is arabic language but no arabic servers
pine niche
Hi! This isn't necessarily a suggestion. But I'm really tired of trolls in the game. Is there any way we can make them disappear? Reporting (even if all other 15 players report) will take no effect to them because they literally are troll accounts. In my games these days, I can, at least, find one gamethrowing player or a wolf-selling troll nearly on a daily basis.
autumn fog
I suggest to have topic channels since #off-topic is used to have short discussions and sometimes it's used to send emojis or to send one-word answers.
dusty furnace
Hey! I don't know if this was already mentioned, however, I think the recent skin offer that shows a bomb skin is rather inappropriate, since Vienna recently became the victim of a terror attack. The information about this attack spread world wide, so it is well-known that this act of hatred took place. I just wanted to mention this to maybe make the people who are responsible for the publishment of skins aware of the fact that this bomb skin is offered at a very inappropriate point of time.
fickle beacon
@runic dragon As I said, no information about how we can buy the advent calendar was released. It’s better to wait for the announcement ^^
@rigid moss Hello This was already suggested before, and even reposted. You can check it here: #feedback-devs message. Thanks for the feedback!
@weak lark Hey 👋🏻 The devs will add a new server language if they think there is enough demand (enough players playing in that language).
@pine niche Hi 👋🏻 Reporting them will make them be banned and it helps making the community better. So, make sure to always report them since all report makes the difference and it does takes effect.
@autumn fog Hi 👋🏻 The server focus is not being off topic, so I don’t think there is a necessity to add more off topic channels when that one is already enough.
Thanks for feedback, tho
@dusty furnace Hello I’ll redirect this concern to the responsible. Thanks for the feedback!
dusty furnace
Thanks a lot🥰
weak lark
Ok thx
autumn fog
Instead of buying gold from the shop > buying roses, I suggest to add the possibility to directly buy roses with real money.
woeful shoal
?discord shirt and ?tester hat in #bot-commands
hearty lanternBOT
@woeful shoal, Please go to #bot-commands for that!
pine jacinth
is the amount of point earned after a win in a ranked game is related with the winrate ?
runic dragon
@pine jacinth no, the sp system is a weighted elo rating system which relies only on which setup, which league and which language server you are playing in
Winrates or other personal stats dont count
pine jacinth
well should change that
runic dragon
You can google the elo system either way
pine jacinth
how the hell do we end up with 30% winrate player in our game
if they win they should get +10 untill they win a enough game to increase their WR
runic dragon
You’d like winrates to count? So 70% winrate thai and viet grinders which just make village win every time will be at an advantage?
pine jacinth
simple way to get ride of boosted player in early season
runic dragon
People which grind winrates do exist
pine jacinth
those guys shouldve beeen ban a while ago
beyong 56-57 u can already be sus
those guys roaming the game for years with 68% are just a joke
and dev dont give a shit about it
runic dragon
They get banned for 2 days and then they get unbanned and grind again so
pine jacinth
ye so in a way , to remind player to not react to a message with an emote clown they are top shape but when it comes to ban those guys , no one , all busy "aFK dOnt pING mE plZ"
runic dragon
Hey bakoora, sadly everyone knows how messed up this whole system is (i dont mean the sp system but all this banning and solving issues thing is). But it is okay, and we should adapt to it. They know they do stuff wrong but the staff is doing their best, there are good intentions going on. There is a single dev working and he’s doing his best for such a big game so I won’t complain at all. The key word is adapt. After all, the winrate grinders and sp grinders from ranked games dont really affect you, just don’t mind them and continue to carry. I know how well you were playing when you were not concerned about this
pine jacinth
the game could be way better i dont get it ? why not attract more people to their game therefore making more money with that ? its beyond my comprehension bud
runic dragon
Imagine that people are spamming ‘#nogrindnoshop’ everywhere, meaning that they’d stop buying stuff if they dont add grinidng back and they would think about the playerbase
That’s not an issue that they don’t care about the playerbase, don’t get me wrong
But my point is that they do have other issues going on as well
I mean ... yeaaaaah theres still much to be done like fork auras are still banmed and not even allowed in the wwocs
But still, there are lots of stuff going on in there which can be done. Improving the playerbase’ skill is hard, in contrast.
To improve the players you need to educate the noobs, which is hard
runic dragon
Make pic perms lvl 5 or sth; some new people who doesnt have sth to do with this server are abusing it
rigid compass
hidden jacinth
If a bandit doesn't turn anyone into an acc and doesn't kill anybody until the very end of the game and knowingly kills a ww to help the villagers is this gamethrowing or not. They stated in chat that they didn't like being bandit and they were helping them have an easier time to win?
alpine linden
@autumn fog heya, I don't think this would be necessary. Most people collect gold from the wheel and if you do want more roses through gold bought with real money it's definitely not a lot of extra work to quickly go to the shop and buy some. Thank you for the suggestion though! 
@runic dragon heihei, you can always report anything that's against our rules in #discord-reporting-old-2025. The reason the level requirement is only 1 is because if someone joins to report a bug and that needs a screenshot or video it'd take quite a while for them to reach such a high level. (Same goes for other inquiries that need an image). If we'd set it that high people would probably not want to report their issue (or other inquiry), due to how much effort and time it would take. Thank you for the feedback nonetheless 
alpine linden
@pine jacinth hellooo, making SP gainage dependable on winrate would be quite unfair for newer or older players (case dependant). Additionally, it would go against the point of season resets and it's mentality. So it wouldn't be fair to invent such a system, even if there wouldn't be any boosters. Thank you for suggesting!
Our guardians are doing their best to go against boosting. However, this isn't as easy as it may seem to you. Usually a boosting lobby consists of 16 players who all agree to boost so no one will report the others and the guardians won't know. So if you have any feedback on how to avoid boosting games please share it with us 
pine jacinth
just comparing those player with the average ,looking their team stat , winrate, how often they meet the others
gg wp
alpine linden
Do keep in mind that that would mean checking everyone's stats - we have a looot of players. Checking everyone's stats would be an immense amount of work and most definitely not doable 😅
pine jacinth
by definition booster are at the top arent they ?
alpine linden
@hidden jacinth Hei there, it's not gamethrowing but teaming. Bandit has a solo team so they are free with their actions. However, it can be a tactic to win the game. Like for example, hiding themselves or seeming like they are teaming. If they defend it by stating this, it wouldnt be teaming. But otherwise, if they clearly team, like in this case, report them
Next time please do ask your question in #questions, as this channel is for feedback!
@pine jacinth this does not always have to be the case. There are also people who have recently started playing and are already boosting, so not at the top at all.
pine jacinth
well you just wait for them to grind enough to be at sigh and you shutdown their account with only their eyes to cries coz they have to grind back from 0 ?
alpine linden
Sounds like an interesting idea but there's people who properly play the game and got to level 1000 in a completely fair way. Which would mean technically it'd take boosters until they reach level 1000 and - as time passes - even higher. You'd also still have to comb through those top players to see if they're actually grinding, which would, again, take a lot of time. Furthermore, if the boosters know that at level X they'll be under the radar they'll most likely find different ways to avoid it. So I don't really think this would work out 
pine jacinth
is the global winrate in the profil page only about ranked or every game mode ?
shut herald
When tg is bitten by zombie he shall be able to turn since bandit can turn tg and tg just lose the round in where zombie win
alpine linden
@pine jacinth It's about all gamemodes except custom games
@shut herald Heyo, this has been suggested before! You can vote on it here:
#feedback-devs message
Thank you for the suggestion 
pine jacinth
then they could create a separate winrate for ranked only and base our points earning at the end of a game on it
people whom winrate is super low would be forced to stay at their level for a while untill they could increase their winrate by themselves
daring hatch
Be new --> have low wr --> fall to bronze --> don't gain sp because of low wr --> stay in bronze --> less consistency in bronze and no chance to get better, which means your wr stays low --> don't gain sp because of low wr --> and so on forever
Not the best system
People will get stuck at the bottom with no chance to improve
shut herald
There shall be "custom games" for people who haven't bought real custom games and in that mode you have yourself playing and 15 bots then game will randomly put roles and you can't decide which roles to put and before you start it will ask you "Do you want to know everyone's role?" If you click yes you will see everyone's role and then to interact with bots (example: 16 is gunner and you want 16 to shoot 12 so you say "16 12" and the bot 16 will shoot 12) at the voting time bots will follow whoever you vote
If you chose game without knowing everyone's and you want for example gunner to shoot someone and you say "gunner wolf_seer" and gunner will automatically shoot wolf seer but if you want for example pacifist to reveal 12 for example then you say "pacifist 12" and Pacifist will reveal 12
If 12 for example is pacifist he will say "I am a pacifist I can't reveal myself"
And for roles that only work in night like doctor or random killers then you say "doctor 12" if you want doctor to protect 12
And if you want for example illusionist to disguise someone you say "illusionist 12" and if you want illusionist to I'll you say "illusionist_12"
If you want werewolf to kill someone you say for example "shadow_wolf_12" and shadow will vote 12 at night
You also can put a tab where it will display all of commands for every role
alpine linden
@pine jacinth as Marnew said, in that case you can get stuck easily, especially if you get real unlucky with your games and you'll end up losing your motivation to play at all. Don't think this one would work out at all. Thank you for all the feedback!
pine jacinth
be new be matched with other new be stronger than them in strat , win go higher faster work aswell , this system is the same for a lottttttttt of game with ranking system
but if you guys thinks that being match with new player like actually and being drag down in trash elo is good aswell fine i dont care
i believe that people who loose motivation deserve to be where they are , its ok to be pissed off a bit take a break etc... but if your a quitter , well then stay where you are , being mix with beginner is destroying more game than you think, good player get stuck every freaking begining of the season , blood pressure rising to 20 because you dont know wich one of those new player will pull the trigger on the med etc...
daring hatch
You are contradicting yourself, you say your wr will go higher fast if you are stronger than others, then you say that the problem is being matched with new players which will make it so you get stuck. Do you see then that the wr you'll have when starting to play is not always something you have control over? If it worked like you say it wouldn't be a problem getting matched with less skilled players, since you would always win.
Also there are many players that start with low winrates but improve over time, some of those are now among the very best players in the community.
This system would have discouraged them and made them quit the game before they had the chance to get where they are now