I wouldn't mind a rework to make it less luck based on the seer who spots the ww first. Even if you try to protect yourself before you'll get counter claimed, to win you either need to be really lucky or try hard enough
#feedback-readonly
tough beacon
warm helm
@runic dragon this is rather unlikely to happen in games i played lately ๐ but we have random killers which can include arsonist, etc. that already solves a lot ๐
@plain junco hoi! when you win as couple, you will get added to the lover wins and not your original team, same for sect members. so you can already check that. for hh, it counts to the hh wins regardless of your target, i dont see how this would be changed 
. for cursed, when you transform, you become a werewolf, where your wins will be added as werewolf. i dont think we want to confuse people. thanks for your ideas tho! 
@runic dragon hey hey! position doesnt matter really when playing so i dont see the reason for that. whether you are 1, 9, 14 or 3 its all the same gameplay. where talisman change your game a bit for you. thanks for your suggestion! 
@runic dragon hello! you can follow the message below from the bot to appeal your ban. next time use #questions please
@tired yoke hi! this auto-report system is only active for certain words or actions (spamming, revealing your wws,...). swearing isnt allowed and gets you banned. thats how it currently works ๐ค it is more effective than game reports here because rarely people get reported for hate speech. its still in the work and not perfect yes, mistakes can happen yes, but nothing too bad that makes it broken. thanks for your concerns! 
@runic dragon hey! i will ask if this can be changed. thanks for your feedback! 
@sharp cloak hai! paci is supposed to prevent voting, yes this can waste abilities, but well thats how paci works. also, this has been suggested before, thanks for your suggestion! 
hearty lanternBOT
warm helm
@round quail heya! i dont see the point of this? it is rather confusion and goes about how the role works . why would cupid, wanna die? just the general thought already doesnt make sense. cupid and hh are already known in most cases. cupid and hh are villagers, making them die makes no sense at all. thanks for the idea tho 
@tough beacon hiya! there are plenty of scapegoats already, you just need to know how to use it properly. we have a lot more unknown roles, giving evils an advantage. loads of killing and so on. if you think we need more scapegoats, you can always create a role in #role-ideas-readonly which can serve as a good scapegoat. thanks for your suggestion! 
pallid merlin
Insulting back doesn't mean you won't get banned, all users have to follow rules
Additionally, being rude here won't get you anywhere
open flare
hey, since the suggestion of cupid being solo was posted in #feedback-devs a long time ago (10 months ago precisely, #feedback-devs message) can you give it a repost, please?
Cupid should be a Solo, have an Unknown aura and their Win condition should be exclusively Couple.
sharp cloak
I mean, @round quail 's point is that that should change
And they shouldn't be villagers
thorn frost
Is there a chance of changing cupid aura to Unknown? Cupid is good itself, but as couple is priority, if evil players are coupled, cupid will not help village. So I don't really see cupid aura being good in this situation. As cupid's aura depends on the context, I suggest to change it to Unknown.
leaden hare
Can we get xp for voting correctly?
Like if you vote a wolf you get xp, if you vote a villager you dont and if you lynch a villager as a wolve you get xp?
errant sierra
I was jailer with bullet in ranked with only solo but solo was given win even though I could have killed solo. Please change this. Jailer without bullet should end in solo win not otherwise
solemn dragon
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If someone is jailed the arsonist won't be able to set them on fire cause how is the arsonist gonna get into the jail exactly to set them alight
twin vessel
to be able to buy " random killer " or "random ww " talisman
vital skiff
@solemn dragon Suggestions for new roles go to #role-ideas-readonly
plain junco
1- If hhโs target is dead first night, game should auto select a new target. We cannot do anything about Headhunter and still we dont have any information.
2- Fool and Hh should not be killed first night. Because as Fool and Hh we cannot do anything or revived. We should be converted but not killed.
shut wharf
Option in the clan member details to tap on a specific player that appears in a different shade so if you scroll to the right you will see which one is from the selected player.
(Pic with badly drawn example)
normal wyvern
hey, since the suggestion of cupid being solo was posted in #feedback-devs a long time ago (10 months ago precisely, #feedback-devs message) can you give it a repost, please?
Cupid should be a Solo, have an Unknown aura and their Win condition should be exclusively Couple.
@open flare Hey hey, this has been suggested multiple times before. However I can't do an exactly repost of the feedback but I will repost it for you in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion!
open flare
thanks @normal wyvern 
normal wyvern
you're welcome!
open flare
but I didnโt say ยซย until the couple diesย ยป 
normal wyvern
It is similar to the suggestion you mentioned. However it should be similar to headhunter then :p
Is there a chance of changing cupid aura to Unknown? Cupid is good itself, but as couple is priority, if evil players are coupled, cupid will not help village. So I don't really see cupid aura being good in this situation. As cupid's aura depends on the context, I suggest to change it to Unknown.
@thorn frost Hey hey, this has been suggested to be reposted and was reposted a few minutes ago. Thank you for your suggestion!
Feedback: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/769954350642102311
open flare
ye but if the team is exclusively couple, cupid should be fully solo
normal wyvern
Headhunter is fully solo as well but giving them still the chance to win as villager would be good anyways. However the rules still apply to it, so they can't throw
open flare
can i suggest to make hh and cupid fully solo then? as fool?
normal wyvern
Like if you vote a wolf you get xp, if you vote a villager you dont and if you lynch a villager as a wolve you get xp?
@leaden hare Hey hey, this has been suggested before but would be impossible to add. The game does not note who is voting who and when you have a really quick game it would be a bit impossible to vote out villagers. At all this could lead to huge bugs which we try to avoid. Thank you for your suggestion.
I can remove the thing if you want to
Removed :)
I was jailer with bullet in ranked with only solo but solo was given win even though I could have killed solo. Please change this. Jailer without bullet should end in solo win not otherwise
@errant sierra Hey hey, this is similar to the werewolves and a mayor, gunner, ... . The game does not count how many bullets you have left - it only counts how many players are left and which role they have. To make it fair for the solo roles they added this small condition. Thank you for your suggestion anyways!
New role: the firefighter the firefighter can only spawn if arsonist ingame he can select 2 people to save from arsonist if the people protected are burned they survive if he protected 1 person he can only protect 1 person next night and if he saved 2 people he can't protect any more also if he protects anyone and they aint burnt he looses an opportunity to save someone he only has 3 opportunities he also looses 1 of the 2 saves (not opportunities) if 1 of the people he protects is covered in gas and also removes the gas from them so the arsonist as to reapply it wasting one or both of his gas canisters for the night feel free to contact me if ur confused devs
@solemn dragon Hey hey, role ideas belong to #role-ideas-readonly. please check out the pinned messages and follow the format before submitting it!
If someone is jailed the arsonist won't be able to set them on fire cause how is the arsonist gonna get into the jail exactly to set them alight
This sounds good for roles but arsonist bypasses the protection in any other way, so it would be a bit too strong for jailer then. This also counts for Bomber, so I don't think it will be added. Thank you for your suggestion anyways!
to be able to buy " random killer " or "random ww " talisman
@twin vessel Hey hey, this has been suggested before and I would like to repost it in #feedback-devs. I will change it a bit into "a random role talisman", so you should be able to buy for all random roles a talisman and not only for specific ones. Thank you for your suggestion!
1- If hhโs target is dead first night, game should auto select a new target. We cannot do anything about Headhunter and still we dont have any information.
2- Fool and Hh should not be killed first night. Because as Fool and Hh we cannot do anything or revived. We should be converted but not killed.
@plain junco Hey hey, this has been suggested before and I would like to repost it. However number 2 would be impossible to impletend because you can't avoid getting killed the first night especially if they go random. The werewolves could think it is the solo role which might be an easy win for the fool then. I don't think it would be good to add this. However I would like to add the first thing in #feedback-devs
normal wyvern
Option in the clan member details to tap on a specific player that appears in a different shade so if you scroll to the right you will see which one is from the selected player.
(Pic with badly drawn example)
@shut wharf Hey hey, this seems to be like a nice idea and I would like to post it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your feedback!
thorn frost
ooooh mb, sorry i didn't see the suggestion
normal wyvern
No worries!
runic dragon
I think a new rule should be added
Couples shouldn't hurt the matchmaker unless they're from another team
My couples killed me when they didn't have to
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and they win
why they killed me?
nocturne wharf
From the members tab of the clan, I'd like to be able to "manage" my members and not just see info.
Like when I see on there already that they missed a donation, I'd like to be able to click on them to kick them from the clan (or also open their profile to be able to message them right away), not having to go back to the clan page, scroll down and kick.
When I search for a friend from my friend list, I wanna be able to go to the chat from there pls - because that's what I usually search a name for within 250 friends ๐ right now it only shows the profile, and there is only the "cancel" button
normal wyvern
@runic dragon Heyy, what do you mean? A couple has to kill every single player to win as couple even the matchmaker ^^'
@nocturne wharf Heyy hey, the one click to go back to kick them would not be such a hard problem. Contacting them directly is already suggested and up to the developer. I agree that it would be very helpful. Thank you for your suggestions!
nocturne wharf
It is if you have 5-6 people with no donation and a short time memory, so you go kick one and just to double check you check members again to kick maybe 2 others, then go back to check the next... It gets annoying if you kick more than 1 and that's usually the case ๐
But thank you anyway๐
normal wyvern
If it's 5 or more I can agree but for single ones it might be not needed. Also you can easily kick people then who are actually not the ones who should be kicked ^^'
solemn trail
Could devs be more clear about bug fixes/game updates, cause they fixed bandit being blue within the last week but nobody knew for days so they killed the wrong people in lobbies cause "bandit is blue too"
Or when they fixed the 2nd acco can't kill - no one knew and lost at least 3 games cause they didn't kill the acco cause "he can't kill anyway" and people got ignored saying that he actually can
nocturne wharf
Okay one more idea for today ๐
A yellow (?) Idle Status. There are situations where you don't wanna be invited by everybody but need to keep invites open. For example: When you only wanna play with the clan - the Idle Status would basically show you are online and don't want to be invited - but you still can get invited.
nocturne wharf
This one might be controversial: there should be a difference between suicides and inactivity. People that lose connection and are offline should simply stay offline until being killed.
Suicides due to lost connection are always a disadvantage, and people don't even check/kill offline people.
I think they should still get reported after a certain time for inactivity (like the suicide does now) but not suicide. It would also need a new line in the profile showing "inactive games"
For example: what if a ww team would win with the next kill but then one of them was offline and suicides at the same time, so still no win. It gave a disadvantage to the wws that stayed online and were still about to win, which is not fair.
frosty wing
@solemn trail Hey 
, the devs make announcements in #game-updates for important game related things (mainly version updates and what they include), so they do keep the community updated ๐ -> However some things may not be immediately announce for whatever reason the devs may have ๐. Thanks for the feedback! 
exotic wraith
Ban yedim bu haksฤฑzlฤฑk
frosty wing
@nocturne wharf Hey , something similar has been suggested previously ๐: #feedback-devs message
Thanks for the feedback though!
For the second feedback, I don't think it would be overly possible for the game to differentiate between the two, and many strategies may include offline players suiciding after two nights, so some not suiciding may throw players off ๐. As well, if the suicide was simply a loss of connection, it's unlikely that it'll happen enough for a suicide ban that purposeful suicides would cause ๐. Thanks for the feedback! 
hearty lanternBOT
frosty wing
@exotic wraith If you think your ban was unfair, you can read the instructions above ๐ (and next time please speak English here ๐ - you can speak Turkish in #turkish )
nocturne wharf
@frosty wing thx! I upvoted it. The feedback was over 4 months ago tho ๐
frosty wing
@nocturne wharf 4 months isn't really long ago enough for me to repost it, but the devs do look at everything in #feedback-devs
floral heath
for the first part of his feedback, i just wanna say that his argument of werewolves needing time to plan a strategy is correct in the higher leagues of ranked and is a viable feedback that should be voted on
(make night time longer in Gold and Platinum lobbies)
for part 2, there are so many good WWO tutorials on youtube and I think it would be a great idea to advertise them on the app so people who donโt have discord / youtube can go in and watch them to learn about the game better (the current tutorial still sucks imo)
kind mesa
Heya @floral heath, longer night time for ww is longer night time for every role because you cant make the nighttime for ww longer than for other roles. Your second part sounds nice, I will add it to #feedback-devs, thank you! Have a nice day! 
kind mesa
Hey @viral tree, this channel is only for feedback ๐ can I help you?
oak zenith
I opened a ticket, no one came back?
Understood. Interest zero is no one here is interested in you as long as possible i will not work with you anymore have a good day.
stable locust
Heyy so. I think that the season reset skill points are kinda unfair i would say. If u reached plat but not 2500 sp u start in silver with 1500 sp. And trust me getting from there is not like ye, classification ull be in gold in no time! Nope not at all. Village has no concept of claiming etc.
So heres how i think the skill reset should be
2500+ = 1850 ( a bit of a benefit so they stay 200 sp away from the ones who only reached plat)
2000-2499 = 1650 ( u prooved that u are a decent player. Thus u should be able to start in gold not in silver)
Gold= 1550 ( again bit of a advantage compared to the lower silver level)
Silver= 1450
quaint bramble
@oak zenith The tickets are not a livechat feature, someone will handle it when available. Jst make sure you do explain your request clearly already
@stable locust could you classify all the numbers a bit more clearly, esp the silver/gold part... everyone that reached gold should start with 1550 next season?? that seems a bit much
dusk tide
Selam Werewolf Online oynuyorum ve bize katฤฑlmanฤฑ istiyorum! Uygulamaya buradan ulaลabilirsin: https://wwo.page.link/Axd1E
random ingot
@dusk tide I think almost everyone here on the server already have the game, and please, don't spam it everywhere ๐
stable locust
Fair point. So lower part of gold (1650-1850) should start with 1500 ( as it is now) and the ones near plat (1851-1999) should start with 1550. They tried but its not quit it yet. For silver: i dont think silver and gold player should start with the same amount of sp as the players of gold and since lower part of gold starts with 1500, silver should start with 1450. Here its rlly hard to divide into lower part and upper part. Since its like the middle step where players can learn a bit of new things before getting to gold. || might seem unfair that they arent devided into 2 cathegories unlike 2 previous stages but its also unfair to make gold and silver start together with 1500 sp since the one from gold got to higher league and the other was in silver even before reset||
quaint bramble
@stable locust silver is the starting league so imo thats fine, they dont get higher than that, then they stay n silver
not everyone needs a boost on the new season cause then it becomes harder for newer players who want to get higher up as well
could you put these new numbers togerher with the rest in one list? i'll give it a post then
runic dragon
For the invite to clan if it has a minimum lvl do you have to be that lvl for the invite to go through?
stable locust
2500+ = 1850
2000-2499 = 1650
1851-1999=1550
1650-1850=1500
Whole silver= 1450
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Im not sure, i assume they wont show up at all, but its best to ask in #questions
runic dragon
@runic dragon Im not sure, i assume they wont show up at all, but its best to ask in #questions
@quaint bramble oh ok. I thought the feedback is for questions. I donโt know obviously. ๐
orchid kelp
Maybe make custom music for the game? Like a theme music for the menu and for roles.
Example :
Marksman shooting arrow
Werewolves killing
Gunner shooting
Jailed chain noise
It should be optional since other people doesn't want it or just too loud for playing
random ingot
@hardy pike Do you need to appeal your ban or report someone?
hardy pike
nope
hardy pike
report a fb account
swift flame
I have an idea for wwo. so: it's a link in a bio.
person cans type name of their friend and use smth like this "@HALY", then you can tapp on this nickname in someone's bio and go directly to that player's profile
livid thicket
The flower child petal and the role icon are clashing; they should be seperating just enough so they don't touch each other as it looks weird
sharp cloak
Roses sent by players who are corrupted should not be shown to others.
For the same reasons why roses sent by dead people aren't shown to everyone
To prevent unfair communication using roses
near shuttle
runic dragon
Can we set our favourite Talismans in Inventory the same way we can "favourite" our friends on the Friends List? It will be more convenient instead of having to scroll through and sometimes equipping the wrong talismans by mistake cus we're in a hurry to join a game.
untold garnet
Hi! Can I recommend that during shadow werewolfโs ability, werewolf team should be able to see who their team mates are voting. So that the use of the ability wonโt be in vain because there are instances that other werewolf team mates would vote different people.
runic dragon
Hi, I suggest to get back to the old suicide rule.
When you commit suicide twice in 6 hours, you'll get a ban.
It's really annoying that at least 4 people in a game commit suicide, just bc they don't like the role.
5 times in 6 hours is just too much, also because your ban is only 10 min long and you can reduce it with ads.
So either reduce the amount of suicides or increase the ban time (without reducing it with ads).
runic dragon
Reposting from role ideas.
Hi All not a new idea but is it possible for the Fool to be able to randomly pick a player and that becomes their team. So they still have their own win mechanic but can win with wws or villagers depending on the first night pick.
jade flare
The jailer must not be the headhunter's target. If headhunter blames jailer and if the players don't lynch jailer that day, he can jail headhunter and shoot. I live that once 
dusty rampart
Werewolf Online would be my favourite game, but except for one thing: gamethrowers!!!
Please add a feature to ban the player for an increasing amount of time even if 2 people report him of 'gamethrowing'. Would really appreciate this being a feature as it would stop people from ruining the game !
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a way to increase/expand the clan member limit through some way like - either by a big amount of gold/gems, or by another great way that is : When the clan reaches milestones, there is a specific amount of slots that increase.
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Clan Badgesfor various factors like member milestones, and exp milestones.
Clan Loyalty badges for clan memberswho have completed a certain time and activity (exp).
pulsar wagon
Ready to uninstall this game. Each new season I go back to silver. I Played two games So far and lost both to gamethrowers. Medium refused to revive for three nights and gunner shot day one for no reason. Its not fair to have to play with people like this. Its going to take me half the season to get away from people who dont know how to play or who activity sabotage games. Not sure i can do it again.
idle stirrup
I think grumpy grandma is a role that needs a bit of a rework, it's almost never used correctly and you basically may end up helping the ww more than the village.
Often times you find that either
A) gg mutes a villager who can't defend themselves and ends up being lynched
B) gg mutes a wolf and they don't have a chance to claim or try to convince anyone
C) gg gamethrows and mutes an informer.
So basically it's a role that negates you the most important tool in wwo which is being able to communicate and convince people.
To fix this I'd suggest gg only prevented the targeted player from voting, or it limited the number of messages the selected player can send to 2/3.
Personally I'd remove it from rrv altogether but I get that some wouldn't want to do that.
tidal monolith
Would be nice if on info they tell u how many placement games u have left for each team like for village werewolf and solo
idle stirrup
Also more fb, this time on gunner. I don't like that gunners can ruin a game without punishment for it (apart from being reported), so i suggest that if a gunner kills a villager and uses their 2nd shot on another villager (except when in a couple) they die instead of the target they try to shoot. It's similar to mm, but at least with mm you can't random kill which is frankly what makes gunner garbage imo.
Last feedback. Bomber is kind of underpowered atm, or at least that's the feeling I get. It requires 6-8 days to win in normal games and the bomb placement often feels wack when you have to place on dead people, so I say we can just skip the dead bodies in the bomb's way.
Example. 1,2,3 would be the bomb targets but 2 died. So the bomb placement would skip 2 and would be 1,3,4. This would only work in the same line, so it wouldnt be 1,4,5 if 2 and 3 were dead.
broken fjord
severe bobcat
It would be better if it is "their" instead of "his"
frosty wing
@swift flame Hey , this has been suggested before ๐: #feedback-devs message
Thanks for the feedback though!
@livid thicket Hey , I'll post this in #feedback-devs - Thanks for the feedback!
@sharp cloak Hey , I don't believe that you can send roses when corrupted ๐. Thanks for the feedback though! 
@hardy pike @near shuttle Hey , these both look fake, so I wouldn't engage with them ๐ - This channel is for feedback, so next time use #questions to ask questions ๐
@runic dragon Hey , I'll post this in #feedback-devs ๐ - Thanks for the feedback!
@untold garnet Hey , this has been suggested before ๐: #feedback-devs message
Thanks for the feedback though!
sharp cloak
@frosty wing you can, I had a game three or four days ago where a guy communicated with roses
When he was corrupted
round quail
Addition to @open flareโs suggestion
Same goes for hh: The team changes to exclusively solo.
frosty wing
@runic dragon Hey , I'll redirect this feedback for you, thanks for the feedback!
@runic dragon Hey , fool is meant to be a challenging role, and this ability would essentially make the fool able to not play as fool ๐. Thanks for the feedback though!
@jade flare Hey I'll post this in #feedback-devs ๐ - Thanks for the feedback!
@dusty rampart Hey , bans increase in length if a player gets banned multiple times ๐, so this is essentially already a feature ๐. Thanks for the feedback though!
@supple venture Hey , thanks for all the feedback!
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Badges are meant to be special things for things that benefit the game in some way (e.g. social media badges are earned by people promoting the game), so I don't think that this would be something that would work as a badge ๐. I do like the idea of rewards for clan milestones though ๐
@pulsar wagon Hey , I'm sorry you've had a bad experience - I encourage you to report players that break the rules, and also to encourage others in your games to report them too
@idle stirrup Hey , I'll post this in #feedback-devs - Thanks for the feedback!
@tidal monolith Hey , something similar has been suggested before ๐: #feedback-devs message
Thanks for the feedback though!
@idle stirrup Hey
Gunner Feedback - The problem I see with this is: It can confirm a player as a good, which can put non-village teams as a disadvantage ๐, and could probably also be abused. Thanks for the feedback!
Bomber Feedback - I'll post this in #feedback-devs ๐
idle stirrup
@frosty wing yeah, gunner is one of those roles that I can't find any way of avoiding random kills that doesn't resemble mm too much
frosty wing
@broken fjord Hey , if you think your ban was unfair, you can follow the instructions below ๐
hearty lanternBOT
frosty wing
@severe bobcat Hey , I'll post this in #feedback-devs - Thanks for the feedback!
@sharp cloak That sounds to me like a bug then ๐
sharp cloak
Really? I assumed it was an oversight
Especially since I can't see any documentation about it
frosty wing
@round quail Hey , the link isn't working for me ๐, which feedback are you referring to? ๐
sharp cloak
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frosty wing
@sharp cloak I believe that you can't send roses when corrupted, so yep, it does sound like a bug to me ๐
sharp cloak
Ok, cool then
frosty wing
@open flare ah, thanks
runic dragon
Hey I have a feedback but itโs about french game, can I still post it here ?
frosty wing
@round quail Hey , I don't see why this would be needed ๐, thanks for the feedback though!
@runic dragon Hey , you can send any feedback for WWO here ๐
runic dragon
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severe bobcat
@severe bobcat Hey :waveboyeanimated:, I'll post this in #feedback-devs - Thanks for the feedback! :BcaLove12:
youre welcome! thank you!
quaint bramble
@jade flare the same happens for other target roles like granny or witch, they can mute/kill hh too
its not always easy, you get 1 day to do it with info fake or you wait and try it differently, thats all up to you
crisp pagoda
Ranked Game Bug: one nightmare werewolf , one werewolf seer, one tough guy and me the gunner who still have one bullet. The villager knew one of the werewolves, and I could shoot one werewolf then vote out the other, but the game calculated that two werewolves won in this game!
vital skiff
That's not a bug, wolves win if the amount of wolves is equal to the amount of non-wolves.
With solo killer dead
quaint bramble
@crisp pagoda yep as said above, thats the normal werewolf win condition
I would expect someone with 100+ wins to know such a thing already ๐
worn fjord
there should be a refuse button when someone invites you to a game, so that the invitation disappears if you don't want to join
cursive delta
Hey
unique pollen
Idk if suggested already i feel like it has but let us choose favourite item on our inventory, then a button to only show tge favourites and an option on the skin randomizer to only use the favourites
fickle beacon
@unique pollen Hello 
Indeed, this was already suggested and reposted. You can check and vote here: #feedback-devs message. Thanks for the feedback!
unique pollen
Thought so ahahhahah
fickle beacon
@worn fjord Hello ๐๐ป To be honest, the game invitations shows up and disappear so quickly that I donโt think itโs really necessary to have a refuse button. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
@cursive delta Hello ๐๐ป If you want to chat, use #off-topic for unrelated WWO topics and #wov-chat for related WWO topics. This channel is for giving feedback ๐
runic dragon
Please add a rule that people shouldn't say "dont report".
Players defend even clear rule breakers sometimes. Getting bad players reported is already hard and last thing we need is people defending them.
Maybe you should add something like this to rules -
"Don't discourage reports. You aren't allowed to defend anybody in terms of reporting. Everybody has the right to report if they see something wrong and it is upto guardians to check if they are true or not. Defending rule breakers/discouraging reports will result in a ban!"
ruby epoch
@runic dragon Hey, I donโt really think this is necessary 
. When most people say they are going to report someone, they most likely end up doing it for a reason so these people wouldnโt convince them to stop๐ Thereโs also times when people defended a person when itโs a misunderstanding/complicated situation. For example: if gunner was coupled and shot confirmed seer & medium people would jump to report them without knowing they were coupled so them saying โdonโt reportโ could make sense in that way. Although you can try nicely encouraging these players to stop. Thank for suggesting and sorry for making this long
runic dragon
@ruby epoch You jumping the point. I said it doesn't matter whatever the reason is. It is upto the guardians to see if report is valid or not.
For example, I got random shot by gunner then some people immediately say "don't report it wasn't random" etc etc.
So they prevent reports and let gunner get away with it. Its basically a way of trolling victims and/or defending their friends who messed up
And if you saying it is not necessary, trust me... it is.
Also, there is no need to bring in couple situations everytime we feedback something. Literally so many rules are unjustified because of couple possibilities. Couple only exists in a few role rotations, besides, there are many simple ways to make rules safe for couples rather than nerfing the entire rule.
And btw, cupid shouldn't even exist in quick game. Players are dumb enough in quick to even play basic rules.
You wanna know the dumbest thing about this topic? Once one guy defended a gamethrower and said "don't report its just a game" -_-
ruby epoch
@runic dragon Yeah I see what you mean, I donโt think I have ever ran into this in game before besides the player defending himself. While it is up to the guardians to decide whether they should be banned or not, it is also up to the players to report them and they each have an opinion on whether it was against the rules or not. If it was clearly against the rules most people will report, I know this is not what you wanted to hear and Iโm sorry. I brought it up since I was using that couple scenario as an example since itโs common, if you would like, I can give a different example without couple included. Also I donโt think cupid is in the current role list for quick games๐ People are split on the idea of whether cupid should or should not be in quick games and ultimately its up to the devs to decide. Iโm sorry that that happened but you can try explaining to him that itโs not fun if people continuously break rules.
Also you can already report the players that defend the gamethrowers I forgot to mention this
runic dragon
Exactly. If reports are mostly about opinions, then people should just let others report if they want rather than argue about their opinions.
A wrong report getting corrected by a guardian is better than right reports not getting reported which will let gamethrowers get away.
Also you can already report the players that defend the gamethrowers I forgot to mention this
@ruby epoch If its already a rule that is exactly what I said ๐คฆโโ๏ธ I just said to mention it in the rules
Or atleast say that "don't discourage reports ig unless you can provide proof that someone didn't break a rule"
But that be too hard to understand, I personally think my previous one would be better.
"Don't discourage reports. You aren't allowed to defend anybody in terms of reporting. Everybody has the right to report if they see something wrong and it is upto guardians to check if they are true or not. Defending rule breakers/discouraging reports will result in a ban!"
@runic dragon
ruby epoch
@runic dragon Okay, sorry for the delay, I was checking with other staff and didnโt notice a response. Anyways the rules already address this and say that you can report if you see something wrong like this. Itโs just a very specific issue so I donโt think itโs necessary to put it in the rules again. You can just report the rule breaker along with the player that was defending them
runic dragon
@ruby epoch there is no solution if you don't do anything about it ๐คฆโโ๏ธ we know that we can 'report' the people who defend them but isn't it better if we state rules to prevent these problems instead?
But fine whatever I said enough and I not waste any more time on this. Your loss if u don't wanna do anything about this.
quaint bramble
I would appreicate if you stay kind to staff, there has been given plenty of arguments on why this doesnt really fit in the rules ^^
Some people will complain there is too much reports about 'nothing' and some like you think there is not enough, we cant help everybody. ๐คท
if you report the issue, something will be done about it. It's sad that others disagree with you at that moment, but one report does help already.
hidden jacinth
*I didn't know whether to put this here or role ideas.
I really think cupid and its couple should be nerfed some how like maybe not knowing each other roles? Just to start. I just finished a game where most of the villagers helped the couple win. Cupid and couple is already annoying enough and never seems like I get a break. Maybe even take it out of sandbox since people can't be mature.
quaint bramble
@hidden jacinth cupid doesnt see couple's role, only the couple knows their roles
If the village helped them win, the they were teaming and commiting reportable offense. There is absolutely no reason why they should do that, so thats why it might not seem balanced in that moment
And role-ideas is for new ideas only so this is the right place ^^
runic dragon
Pls let the zombies in game ๐๐ป & that they are a little bit more often also bandits (:
quaint bramble
@runic dragon bandit is the newest killer role so they are in sb the most right now, for testing
Zombies will likely never move to another game mode
runic dragon
@quaint bramble Excuse me. When was I not kind?? Was I rude in any way??
Just bcoz you disagree with us it not mean we're rude. Please mind your attitude.
About the topic, ur being totally opposite. I clearly didn't say report for 'nothing' but rather report for 'correct reasons'. My complain isn't even about reporting but rather stating a basic rule in the rules.
Is it wrong if we say "don't defend gamethrowing"???
And no. One report not help. Get over it.
Oh sad cause I love the zombies in sandbox mode the most ๐ญ @quaint bramble
amber nova
I would say Fortune Teller cards has to be in rules that you dont need to reveal and focusing is reportable :โ). Because when you have a card all say โreveal or dieโ and its verd hard with the ft card to win as solo killer or ww.
signal gulch
meager gyro
@runic dragon Heya, there are certain problems your suggestion lead to that arent mentioned yet
Whenever 2 or more members of the same clan join the same game there is a high chance that they are getting accused of teaming or threatened to report for no reason, just based on skin/ clan tag
Or another thing, if you report some players, a few people tend to be a bit unamused about it and scold that they/ their clan will "report you back"
And in those situations it's very helpful to mention that some action wasnt reportworthy and explain why
On top, some incidents are too complex or you cannot know why you should report a player because it happened in the night chat of a team, or some players are new and probably and probably don't understand the rule that was broken, then it's more helpful when a player ingame who decided to report, explains
The player that decided to report usually is sure why a report is needed and someone saying dont report won't change that + as the other staff members mentioned, clear rule violations normally get enough reports
To sum up:
It wouldnt be fair to ban people for saying dont ban as you
- cannot expect everyone saying it to do it with malcious intentions
- even the few cases where someone tries to protect you are rather minor and don't change anything about the report decision or their total report count
- cannot expect any negative consequences out of saying it (and that from my pov as mgm/guardian)
@amber nova Check out gamethrowing rules 
amber nova
Huh thank you haha I never saw it :โ)
runic dragon
idk if anyone has said this yet but, can the bandit have limited amount of times to convert? lots of villagers are purposely letting bandit turn them into accomplices so they can win as a bandit and the Werewolves can't do anything about it. Maybe make it so that he con only convert twice, and afterwards, he can only kill like a serial kliler?
orchid kelp
All roles should have a result for aura next to the teams
Forger -
Aura : Unknown
Seer -
Aura : Good
nocturne wharf
If someone gets banned, pls let them still stay in the game they are currently still playing. Right now the second they receive a ban they will suicide.
I know those people are mostly toxic, but often also a useful role (even if insulting etc) and it gives a disadvantage to the leading team to lose the role midgame.
It doesnt happen often, but it does happen ๐ and losing a doc in the current game cause he was gamethrowing 1-2 games before is not great
runic dragon
@nocturne wharf I absolutely agree. And sometimes those mid-games ban occur because of trolls/friends reporting someone for fun as well.
blissful elk
tysm ฤฑ can play game ๐
wise vortex
Just a suggestion ๐
It would be nice if we know how much ads left we can watch
quaint bramble
Oh sad cause I love the zombies in sandbox mode the most ๐ญ @quaint bramble
@runic dragon you cam still play them in custom games and as random killer. But many people do not like them because they are overwhelming and unbalanced against wws, and people team with them a lot.
@runic dragon
I'm sorry if i misinterpreted your dismissive and persistent attitude as rude, that's my mistake indeed.
I mentioned two ends of the same spectrum, as a means of saying we cant make the game perfect to everyone's wishes at once as we did infact have someone point out there is too much reporting recently (especially in ranked).
People should not be encouraged or discouraged to report but thats not something the rules should influence more specifically in my opinion. Defending rulebreaking doesn't preven the rulebreaking from happening, it's already been done. And once again if they are aggresive about defending it, they are just as guilty and reportable.
And once again, one report does contribute to getting someone banned.
If you think it doesn't, I invite you to ask around in #questions how exactly the reporting system wors before you make such a judgement. A common misconception is that you need 10+ reports in a single match, this is wrong, they add up across multiple games so one report will still be looked at when it stacks up.
orchid kelp
We should have a dark mode version for players to avoid damaging our eyes mostly for players that are using reading glasses
fickle beacon
@orchid kelp Hello ๐๐ป Adding a dark mode was already suggested before. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
orchid kelp
#feedback-readonly message what about my Aura Suggestion?
fickle beacon
@runic dragon Hello ๐๐ป You should report players that do this if village can still win. Itโs against the rules. Tbh I donโt think adding a limit is a good idea because there are cases where bandit needs many new accomplice even if theyโre not gamethrowing. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
@orchid kelp Please be patient, Iโll get there ๐
@orchid kelp Hey ๐๐ป The aura of a player being next to the team was already suggested. You can check and vote here: #feedback-devs message. Thanks for the feedback!
@nocturne wharf Hello To be honest I donโt think thatโs a good idea since they were banned for a reason and shouldnโt be able to join any more games. Thatโs their punishment for breaking the rules and it starts immediately, so to finish the game theyโre currently playing could make them break the rules again. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
@runic dragon All reports are looked by the guardian team. No one is banned because of trolls/friends reporting them for fun.
@wise vortex Hello 
This was already suggested before: #feedback-devs message. Thanks for the feedback!
fickle beacon
Youโre welcome ^^
nocturne wharf
Another feedback: I know new members (with little gold) got a random popup "Watch this ad to get 200 Gold!" after a few rounds of playing. Idk if it depends on how much gold you have, if you bought anything, player level... Etc.
But I think the random popup for 200 Gold should appear for every player 
runic dragon
For me, that will occur only when server restarts
Other than that I haven't seen it
pale pendant
I am banned for no reason. I didn't do anything bad, I just suicide ONE time and then i get banned for 5 days. Can someone tell me why?
random ingot
@pale pendant Normally, the reason is explained on the ban message in game. If you think your ban was unfair, you can try to dispute it, just follow the instructions below:
hearty lanternBOT
pale pendant
Thanks.
fading kiln
All reports are looked by the guardian team. No one is banned because of trolls/friends reporting them for fun.
@fickle beacon
Wdym noone is banned because of trolls??? A few months ago i got banned for teaming with ww and i was ww, i got banned for gamethrowing as arso while i won as arso, shooting bad ppl before day 3, winning as hh and not helping vil as fool. And the longest ban i got was 2 months and i told the guardian and he said that 'if people in the game think that you are wrong, then you are wrong.' And didnt shorten my ban. Then i asked another guardian and that guardian told me that the other guardian thought that it was a valid ban so my ban didnt get shortened and this is stupid i got banned for so many times for false reports and trolls. You cant just say that 'noone is banned' because of trolls because many people do.
fickle beacon
@fading kiln If there was a valid reason, then youโll be banned. And just like any human, the guardians can make mistakes so if they end up wrong banning you then you can appeal.
fading kiln
Ya so are you saying that winning a game is gamethrowing
And not helping vil as solo is a valid reason
Its not a mistake if it happened at least 10 times
And as i said the guardians didnt appeal/shorten my ban
fickle beacon
@fading kiln I donโt know the details so I canโt say something and, even if I knew, the guardians decision is the final one. If you want to complain about a guardian you can talk with the guardian manager: @mighty birch
fading kiln
Sharon.
The guardian who banned me for winning as arso and she said i was helping vil to win
Its annoying how ppl think that bans are always fair bye
fickle beacon
If you think they arenโt, you can just appeal them. The guardianโs word will be the final one.
If you want to complain about a guardian manager you can just talk with philipp.
runic dragon
Can this rose window not disappear every time we send roses in a lobby? This will enable players to send roses faster.
wheat shore
Add japanese quick games ๐ฏ
frosty wing
@runic dragon Hey , I'll post this in #feedback-devs, thanks for the feedback!
@wheat shore Hey , the devs will add a language server if they think that there is a demand for it ๐, but I'd also like to redirect you to this message ๐: #become-a-translator-archive-4 message
Thanks for the feedback!
runic dragon
Whyy did I get a 2d ban for having johnnysins as name๐
coarse mango
plain junco
Bomber should put a bomb to a dead player, too. It will make bb kill more players
nocturne wharf
When there was the guardian application (?) here on discord there was this "test" that showed real ig reports and how you would correctly react as a guardian and explain why - that was actually pretty good.
I think a test like this should be accessible in the game to show typical bannable offenses with examples and by having to think by yourself instead of just reading it (possible reward at the end optional).
hearty lanternBOT
nocturne wharf
I think about offenses that nobody thinks are offenses like random revealing, forcing to reveal cards, "role or die" in the early game, suiciding because "I hate this role"/getting converted etc.. Examples about the not so obvious things
normal wyvern
@coarse mango Heyy, being able to send roses in the chat has been suggested before. Now it is up to the developer to add something like this to the game. Thank you for your suggestion!
@plain junco Hey hey, being able to put your bombs between players had been suggested before. However I would like to repost it for you. Thank you for your suggestion!
tired yoke
normal wyvern
@nocturne wharf Hey hey, this could be slightly impossible to do due data rights. People could easily find out that these are their reports and it could be a bit against the actual point especially when people could abuse it.
However the idea is cool but could not work. Thank you for your suggestion 
@tired yoke Any problems with a wiki page belongs to the admins of these pages
nocturne wharf
But they did exist in that test and were accessible to everybody? ๐ They got anonymized and good to go. I think it would just be better to learn with real examples.
In the end it doesn't have to be real, just look real. If guardians would make examples of what happens a lot?
normal wyvern
I can ask a guardian for their opinion but a better report system and explanations have been suggested. However this could easily encourage bypassing and knowing how the guardians exactly handle cases
floral heath
@normal wyvern the bomber suggestion you just added to #feedback-devs is already in the game. bomber can place their bombs on dead people
normal wyvern
It is already the case? Haven't heard of it. I will ask 
nocturne wharf
Another feedback: I know new members (with little gold) got a random popup "Watch this ad to get 200 Gold!" after a few rounds of playing. Idk if it depends on how much gold you have, if you bought anything, player level... Etc.
But I think the random popup for 200 Gold should appear for every player
@nocturne wharf maybe i can slip this back in here again, cause it got overlooked
normal wyvern
@floral heath Alright, thank you very much! I will remove it!
quiet python
then dont do so next time 
runic dragon
I was gunner and I got lynch today. How dumb.
Can you guys seriously please make it impossible for villagers to vote/shoot/water other revealed/revived villagers? There is literally no excuse for that.
If ur worried about couple, then just make it that only coupled players can vote revealed villager, or make it so for quick games without cupid.
Obviously, ww and solo should still be able to vote revealed villagers
errant dune
i 100% agree with that
analog lake
HI
fickle beacon
@runic dragon Hey ๐๐ป Even a revealed villager can become bad (sect, zombie, accomplice, werewolf...) so I donโt think thatโs a good idea. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
@errant dune If you think your ban was unfair you can appeal it following the message below:
hearty lanternBOT
fickle beacon
@analog lake Hey You can chat about WWO topics in #wov-chat and non-WWO topics in #off-topic. Use this channel to give feedback about the game.
analog lake
@fickle beacon OK, THANKS: D
runic dragon
@fickle beacon I clearly mentioned 'quick game' which doesn't include these roles. Even if they do get add later we can just exclude this feature from those games.
Cursed is the only villager that can become ww, so it can simply be excluded too. Besides, cursed barely get revive by medium
So, wanna think about this again with positive thoughts? To prevent getting confirmed villagers lynched which is gamethrowing
Remember,
Prevention > Reporting
rigid tiger
^
fickle beacon
@runic dragon To be honest, I donโt think preventing to vote is a good idea because of some reasons. One of them is that it will be disadvantageous for WW and RK. Also, they can wrong click on a revealed player and since they were able to vote the village will know they are bad.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon I clearly asked think about this with 'positivity' for once.
Preventing vote and preventing vote on confirmed villagers are 2 very different things
rigid tiger
If the village (that still has a majority villagers) votes out a confirmed villager that doesn't have any perks for voting them out, (avenger / loudmouth) it would be a gamethrow
runic dragon
About the ww/solo, if they mistake vote someone, who's fault it is? Theirs.
Its dumb to not have something just because people can make a mistake.
Still, ww can simply have a confirmation to vote when they click on a revealed role
rigid tiger
there should be something to prevent this rather than a confirmed good getting lynched
runic dragon
@rigid tiger voting any revealed villager is simply gamethrowing.
rigid tiger
no, it isn't in some cases
runic dragon
there should be something to prevent this rather than a confirmed good getting lynched
^^
rigid tiger
if the village is majority wws / rk, or if the village is a couple, than it would not be a gamethrow
if the revealed villager has a perk such as loudmouth or avenger, it would not be a gamethrow either
runic dragon
@rigid tiger you jumping the gun. You didn't read my first message
rigid tiger
I read your first message
runic dragon
I clearly mentioned this feature to either be nerfed/excluded from games with cupid.
Secondly, ww and solos can vote revealed.
runic dragon
The feature isn't about preventing confirmed villagers from getting lynched (which not possible coz more ww can outvote), but instead preventing villagers from being able to vote a revealed villager
These are 2 different things hope u get the point
rigid tiger
Since the avenger / loudmouth are roles that can activate their ability when they're lynched, it would make sense to exclude loudmouth / avenger from your prevention
fickle beacon
@runic dragon I thought with positivity, but we need to consider every possibility to suggest something to the game. Theyโre not dumb for missclicking and voting someone confirmed good. Mistakes can happen and since only bad guys would be able to vote this confirmed good person it would be clear that they are evil.
So I donโt think thatโs a good idea.
runic dragon
@rigid tiger yeah ok we can add that too if you like. Basically my main suggestion is to prevent gamethrowing in every way possible
rigid tiger
villagers can vote out loudmouth / avenger as a strategy, therefore preventing villagers from voting out confirmed loudmouth / avenger would not be that great
alright
daring hatch
@runic dragon What if you need to vote a revealed villager to sacrifice when shadow is active?
errant sierra
Hi, there players who use their mother tongue in English games and team up with friend. I just played a game where forger found all remaining wws without help of aura using his mother tongue with other who could. This was very unfair to wws as no one spoke that language. Please try to black keyboard that do not match with language of game
runic dragon
@fickle beacon um I clearly say that ww can be asked a confirmation when they try to vote a revealed villager
daring hatch
Also converter roles are not in qg but they might come in the rotation eventually
runic dragon
And no. You clearly not look it with positivity. U only look with excuses so far
open flare
what if accomplice is a revived/revealed villager?
fickle beacon
@runic dragon Please stay respectful with everyone.
daring hatch
What if you need to vote revealed avenger so you don't need to risk voting fool? @runic dragon
runic dragon
Coz then basically @fickle beacon ur saying that its ok for confirmed gunners to be voted and lynched by villager for sensible no reason
@daring hatch I clearly said "exclude avenger and loudmouth"
fickle beacon
@runic dragon And even with a confirmation, they could still wrong vote someone.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon ...
daring hatch
That seem like a lot of exceptions
fickle beacon
Coz then basically @fickle beacon ur saying that its ok for confirmed gunners to be voted and lynched by villager for sensible no reason
@runic dragon Itโs not okay. You should report who does this as its gamethrowing. I just think that adding this prevention is not a good idea for the reasons I told you.
runic dragon
@daring hatch an effort to prevent gamethrowing to such a large extent will surely take some exceptions
@runic dragon And even with a confirmation, they could still wrong vote someone.
@fickle beacon who's fault is it if they make a wrong choice twice??? I can't believe ur seriously making this sound so dumb
fickle beacon
Also, this is turning into a discussion with many members. Guys, please move to #wov-chat and come back here when there is a final suggestion.
daring hatch
@daring hatch an effort to prevent gamethrowing to such a large extent will surely take some exceptions
@runic dragon What is your solution for shadow and converting roles though
fickle beacon
Again, @runic dragon stay respectful to everyone please.
runic dragon
@runic dragon Itโs not okay. You should report who does this as its gamethrowing. I just think that adding this prevention is not a good idea for the reasons I told you.
@fickle beacon The whole point of this suggestion is to prevent gamethrowing rather than reporting.
Prevention > gamethrowing
daring hatch
And is this really even an issue? never happened to me
runic dragon
@daring hatch we're only talking about quick game. Coz in quick game reports hardly do anything
In quick, problems should be prevented
daring hatch
Shadow and converting roles could be added to qg
fickle beacon
Also, this is turning into a discussion with many members. Guys, please move to #wov-chat and come back here when there is a final suggestion.
runic dragon
@daring hatch well I cannot even count how many times people lynch confirmed villager just to troll
daring hatch
Confirmed villagers or revealed villagers?
runic dragon
@fickle beacon no it not general. Plz listen to us for once. This is genuine feedback
@daring hatch revealed
Coz obviously being 'confirmed' by seer can be fake
daring hatch
I do not play qg often but I never witnessed this
fickle beacon
@runic dragon This turned into a discussion with many members taking place, so Iโd appreciate if it was moved into #wov-chat and you come back here with the final suggestion.
runic dragon
Anyways let's not make this a pointless discussion and actually work on a final suggestion instead. Yes @fickle beacon
So here's my final verdict
daring hatch
I also think it would get confusing for new players. They will get used to not be able to vote revealed roles in qg and then they won't even try doing it when couple or converters are in game
runic dragon
"It should be impossible for villagers to vote revealed/revived villagers. This is to prevent gamethrowing/trolling/teaming.
In order to deal with the slight ambiguities (such as couples), this feature can simply either be excluded for quick games with cupid ig or make it so that couples can vote revealed villagers.
Lastly, since sometimes some revealed roles need to get lynched, (such as cursed, avenger, etc.), those roles can simply be excluded from this feature.
This can be a very good feature to prevent gamethrowing/trolling in quick game. Also simply because,
Prevention > Reporting."
daring hatch
And one final istance where this is inconvenient:
I actually remember a time when a revealed role was voted in my game, a gunner said he would help the wolves and then shot the only seer, so village voted him off since he said he would shoot villagers again the following day. With this rule we wouldn't have been able to do it
fickle beacon
Once again, Iโm asking you guys to take this discussion to #wov-chat. @daring hatch @runic dragon
runic dragon
I also think it would get confusing for new players. They will get used to not be able to vote revealed roles in qg and then they won't even try doing it when couple or converters are in game
@daring hatch the players are supposed to learn the game. The game is not supposed to be adapted to players who lack knowledge. Understand the difference.
Also, we're currently in progress to find a solution rather than problems. So please give me my space for a few mins if u can't support it.
@fickle beacon I already gave my final verdict. Please just post it to devs feedback.
And yes we gonna go to general now
@daring hatch come to general
daring hatch
It's not lacking knowledge if that's how the game works, it's being trained in an inconsistent way
runic dragon
"It should be impossible for villagers to vote revealed/revived villagers. This is to prevent gamethrowing/trolling/teaming.
In order to deal with the slight ambiguities (such as couples), this feature can simply either be excluded for quick games with cupid ig or make it so that couples can vote revealed villagers.
Lastly, since sometimes some revealed roles need to get lynched, (such as cursed, avenger, etc.), those roles can simply be excluded from the game.
This can be a very good feature to prevent gamethrowing/trolling in quick game. Also simply because,
Prevention > Reporting."
@fickle beacon this is it
fickle beacon
@runic dragon I donโt think removing roles that โneed to get lynchedโ from the game a good idea since there is no good reason for this. And, as I said before, this can be very disadvantageous for werewolves, random killers and even couple. Theyโd be able to vote these revealed players and, if they wrongly did so, it would be known that they are evil/coupled. Thanks for the feedback, tho.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon omfg I didn't mean to remove those roles from the game, I meant from the feature ๐คฆโโ๏ธ I meant that those roles can be voted
@fickle beacon so ur saying its fine to let gamethrowing happen just bcoz it advantages ww? Sighs
fickle beacon
It would make their role obvious, so I donโt think itโs a good idea too. @runic dragon
vital skiff
All quick games have either avenger, cupid, or cursed btw. So it'd have exceptions every game.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon what do u mean?
fickle beacon
@runic dragon As I said before, I never said that gamethrowing is fine. Report it in game if you see it.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon OMFG I already said that if ww try to vote confirmed villagers they can SIMPLY BE ASKED A CONFIRMATION
vital skiff
Will do
fickle beacon
@runic dragon No need to get angry. Please be respectful with everyone.
runic dragon
@fickle beacon for the last time, the whole point of this topic is to prevent gamethrowing rather than allow it and then report
Prevention > Reporting
@fickle beacon I am being respectful. Its just that you made me repeat myself over the same thing 3 times just because based on what you 'think'
fickle beacon
@runic dragon I understood this and told you what I think about the suggestions and the points why I donโt think it would be a good idea to add into the game.
fickle beacon
We need to see all the possibilities for a suggestion before adding them in #feedback-devs and I told you them based on what I โthinkโ.
@uncut owl Hey ๐๐ป Please only speak in english at this channel.
fickle beacon
@uncut owl Here:
hearty lanternBOT
runic dragon
@fickle beacon facts > your opinion. Seriously plz stop about what you think
This is the third time I give a sensible suggestion and you pointlessly bring it down just because you not think its good.
We've already mentioned all possibilities and have provided solutions to all of them. Its pretty simple.
So as a form of respect how about you just post it to feedback devs so I can have myself heard rather than ignored just bcoz you not think its a good idea
fickle beacon
as I said, this channel is only for english
uncut owl
Hangi dilde konuลtuฤumu sรถylรผyor ya sabฤฑr
Tรผrkรงe konustugumu sรถylediฤin iรงin teลekkรผrler
Thank you
Dont speak
Dont know English
But i have problem
runic dragon
I'm pretty confident devs will know how to deal with any other possibilities if they exist.
uncut owl
Do you understand
quaint bramble
@errant sierra Heya if people dont speak english in sb, you can report that ingame. If it was such a big group doing it together we also have a report system in this server.
Blocking keyboards is difficult to detect properly but easy to get around, and also has a high chance of interrupting players who do speak english but might be using different keyboard setting etc
quaint bramble
not jumping in on this case as staff this time, but reacting as a fellow player
@runic dragon I also think the amount of exceptions is much too big to make this really useful
cupid is technically a villager but can be a good choice to lynch, in some cases
Or headhunter whose target is dead.
Or if you encounter a coupled villager, when you deduced they are together with an evil role but you dont know who it is.
Or a revealed good player who might have turned acco or zombie now.
And thats on top of all the situations already mentioned by others.
uncut owl
Ne yazฤฑyor bu
Hay diyip kรผfรผr edicem ama bunu da banlarsiniz
Ulan nasฤฑl itiraz edicem
runic dragon
@quaint bramble all those problems can simply be excluded from the feature
Hh is solo, so no arguments about it. I already said hh not included in feature.
I clearly, repeat, clearly said that this feature to be excluded for games with cupid
uncut owl
Aha
runic dragon
Hangi dilde konuลtuฤumu sรถylรผyor ya sabฤฑr
Turkish kanalฤฑnda konuล diyor
As well as zombie or whatever which don't even exist in quick game
runic dragon
Tรผrkรงe konuลuyorsun demiyor
fickle beacon
@uncut owl @runic dragon Please only speak english here. Talk in turkish in #turkish
runic dragon
Ok ฤฑ just speaking doฤan
runic dragon
Lรผtfen burada yalnฤฑzca ** ingilizce ** konuลun. Tรผrkรงe konuลma #turkish
@fickle beacon he going to turkish channrl
uncut owl
Niye burada Tรผrkรงe konusamiyoruz
fickle beacon
Thanks @runic dragon ๐
runic dragon
@quaint bramble @fickle beacon It certainly not my first time you try to bring down my sensible suggestions. Again, you choose to live with the problems rather than find the solutions.
In conclusion, you don't think its a good idea to prevent gamethrowing ๐๐
Anyway, I'm done with this nonsense and I regret wasting my time on this. Maybe you should just simply admit u not want the game to improve, or u can just admit ur too lazy to even copy paste something to devs feedback. Your actions speak louder than words, so go do whatever u like.
Bye, absolute joke of a feedback server...
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Rules are great and gamethrowing is not, let it be clear I do agree with you on that.
We appreciate feedback, but keep in mind we function as a filter for the devs here.
Yes we as staff tend to write 'I think' in our replies, but that doesnt mean it's a solo decision. If a staff member is not sure what to reply, then it will be discussed behind the scenes and other staff have given their views on this topic as well. That's why you got replies from Lisa, from Petal and from me after all. We as a team have knowledge and experience to make a judgement on how feasible or desirable something like this would be.
Now a bit more directed towards your feedback specifically:
Not everything in the game should be limited and restricted through and through, just so nobody can possibly do something bad anymore at all. Just because a not-even-that-huge-amount of people abuse it or ruin the game that way. Putting restrictions on gameplay options to combat a small percentage of abusers, thats giving in to what they want most; ruin other's enjoyment of the game.
Should we delete the chat option as well because some people swear or gamethrow that way? No we shouldn't, thats ridiculous after all.
We got experience enough to ensure you, people will still find a way to be nasty and break rules no matter what we would do about it, preventing doesnt work for everything. Prevention should not ever turn into restriction, for legit players.
@uncut owl Please stop mentioning me, I am not replying to you since I dont speak Turkish either.
We asked a Turkish speaking staff member to help you, but they are not available right now. Please be patient, or talk about the problem with a translator so we can try helping you in English.
hearty lanternBOT
quaint bramble
@uncut owl if you want to talk about getting un banned, you need to follow that
if you need other help, yes I ask you to speak english or wait.
quaint bramble
Read the message, make a ban appeal ticket.
#bot-commands kanalฤฑna git ve ?appeal <oyundakikullanฤฑcฤฑadฤฑn> <sahipolduฤunxp> yaz.
errant sierra
@quaint bramble I did report I just felt like including it here too, as it was really boring to play and I felt cheated. Just thought I could give a feedback. Thanks for prompt response
uncut owl
๐ซ
quaint bramble
@uncut owl read it. thats what you need to do, to talk about your ban with a staff member.
Ask in #turkish for more help, or speak english, or wait
uncut owl
Turkish diyorsun ya sen
Oradan da banlandim
Google translate
Bannnnnn
Ban yedim
Do you understand
Ban yedim Discorddan
quaint bramble
@uncut owl Please stop, read my messages, you can translate them. Follow the instruction and make a ban appeal ticket:
#bot-commands kanalฤฑna git ve ?appeal <oyundakikullanฤฑcฤฑadฤฑn> <sahipolduฤunxp> yaz.
uncut owl
Bak ya
quaint bramble
If you are banned from discord then you need to message a mod, in english, tell us your banned account
quaint bramble
@uncut owl you got yourself banned, then message a mod, we cannot help if you dont say who your other account is
And we told you that you can wait for a turkish staff, but you clearly dont want to..
@autumn gulch is a turkish speaking staff, you can contact her about your problem in Turkish, she is not available to talk right now so you still need to wait.
runic dragon
Lol u delete my message aww so cute and pathetic
uncut owl
You are racist
runic dragon
Clearly someone uses higher rank in server to control what's right and wrong based on what they want ๐
quaint bramble
you said you were leaving so I wasnt gonna bother with another reply... If you cant say it without being rude, then dont say it at all. We have spent enough of our time explaining why we wont pass on this feedback.
Continuing to argue or insult people will result in a mute.
runic dragon
@quaint bramble awww baby I only say it was what I think. Why u take it personally?
I didn't ask for a reply. U didn't have to delete it ๐
I literally just say u use your power to control us and thats what exactly u did awww. Threatening to mute me. So cute.
People here be like if you realize you're wrong just use your power to threaten people and force them to believe ur right awww
Lastly, I was not being rude initially, but u made me repeat myself the same thing so many time so perhaps u should accept if I become rude :)
quaint bramble
If you have a problem with how I handled this chat, you can report me to a mod.
You have definately stooped to insulting now and we dont need to tolerate that sort of atttitude here at all.. calling me a baby is not a feedback ๐
So this will be your final warning until i 'abuse my powers' and mute you for insulting and ignoring repeatedly being asked to stop
uncut owl
You are racist
runic dragon
Within just a few days I've seen how your entire staff is. So even if I report u to mod they'll surely say the same thing lol. Sorry not worth it.
When I joined this server my friend said "this server is a joke". I thought he was just joking but oh well... ๐คฃ๐คฃ after I sent him these screenshots he replied "are you surprised?" ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Calling u baby is not feedback, but I highly doubt if ideas to prevent gamethrowing isn't ๐ u chose not to take that feedback
Aww u threatening again ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ I literally just said u abuse powers and this is the 3rd time u threaten me. Instead of changing my mind you instead gonna prove my point? ๐คฃ so cute awww.
@quaint bramble go ahead and mute me then ๐คฃ if that'll make u feel better. Whatever helps u sleep at night. I wouldn't wanna be in this nest of dumb idiots anyways ๐ my myself will just leave sooner or late. Byeee
quaint bramble
@runic dragon
You said you dont wanna repeat your points, I dont want to repeat mine either. We have given multiple counter reasons and you havent adressed those in any way that makes us change our mind.
yes I will infact mute you now if you cant hold a serious discussion here anymore and you are still trashtalking not just me but the entire staff team now. You seem capable of understanding that's not productive nor acceptable behaviour...
runic dragon
@quaint bramble Just btw, I did answer your counter points. Such as excluding games that have cupid, excluding avengers, etc from this feature, etc. But your yourself chose to not accept it coz u realize u were getting proved wrong ๐
quaint bramble
I have said about that, that too many exceptions create more problems, and it's still restricting legit play.
runic dragon
Yet u say that I didn't address those in any way... bad liar
uncut owl
?
quaint bramble
I already made those points when you said you countered them.. we reached the end of the line for you anyway. After your insulting spree earlier I can easily choose not to continue this conversation here anymore ๐ค
runic dragon
I have said about that, that too many exceptions create more problems, and it's still restricting legit play.
@quaint bramble it certainly not the first time u discouraged my feedback so....
Just rename this channel as #not-feedback
Anyways I really gtg now. Thanks for the entertainment it made my day laughing lol. Bye tc
quaint bramble
Have a nice day. Do come back if you have any serious suggestions again, though I hope you'll be more willing to accept no for an answer if it doesnt go your way
uncut owl
I wanted a ban to prepare for the exam
rigid bronze
You can simply leave the server then ๐ค no need to get banned for that
runic dragon
Or rather let me know if for once you'll be willing to take feedback constructively rather than finding dumb excuses to not put them :)
quaint bramble
We're already past the point of final warnings so do stop calling them dumb already, or just stop talking here altogether.
uncut owl
Who are you avenged
runic dragon
Asking prevention towards gamethrowing is certainly not what I want or want to go my way... its actually what everyone needs ๐ค
@quaint bramble I didn't ask you to reply so just shush. Don't talk to me now :) let it go its ok. U can't always be right
reef pastureBOT
AvengedPotato#9507 has been muted
vital skiff
Could we have a setting in the profile for team stats and role stats that lets us change the order things are in? Like right now, the only order is the order roles appear in the role list, but it'd be cool if we could order it to show in order of highest wins, highest losses, lowest wins, lowest losses, greatest win/loss ration, or lowest win/loss ratio. Could we also have the option to make the role stats visible to other players, with the default being not visible?
tribal girder
@vital skiff So like how we are sorting the friends (like highest levl, name etc) just with the roles?
vital skiff
Basically, just different methods to get it in order, since currently it's kinda a pain to try and find which roles we win as the most since we have to scroll through all of them and figure out the ratios for each one.
tribal girder
@uncut owl enough helpers already answered you. If you insult others or curse and others report you for that, you get banned.
@vital skiff seems like a good idea! I also couldn't find something similar, I'll post it in #feedback-devs, thanks for suggesting!
vital skiff
Alright, thanks!
tribal girder
Add a setting to change the order od the team and role stats. Right now the only order is the role list, add order of (for example) highest/lowest wins, highest/lowest losses, greatest win/loss ration and/or lowest win/loss ration.
@vital skiff I shorted it a bit, would it be ok like that?
Also, I honestly overread the second suggestion, could you explain it a little bit more?
vital skiff
Aye, looks good. And the second part is basically to have an option to let other players see your role stats. It's currently hidden to others, but some might want to be able to have it seen.
tribal girder
Ahh, ok, this was already suggested but I'll still post it in#feedback-devs as a repost
vital skiff
Alright, thanks!
tribal girder
No problem!
uncut owl
Amk
rancid vector
Hi. The game end way to quickly ! There was only me (shooter) and a ww left. I had a bullet left and could kill the ww. But the game ended and gave the win to ww. His is really unfair.
This happens to often.
quaint bramble
@rancid vector heya I already adressed this the last time you posted it...
It's the werewolf win condition to be equal or higher number than the villagers.
that bullet doesnt matter anymore, you should have used it earlier then?
The werwolves win sooner than villagers, because there is only 4 of the against 10 villagers and 2 solo roles.
thats why they have a different win condition.
If you didnt shoot them till then, it means you probably didnt know who the last wolf was, so they have outsmarted the village and earned the win.
wooden token
How to report player rude
wind crescent
I know new members (with little gold) got a random popup "Watch this ad to get 200 Gold!" after a few rounds of playing. Idk if it depends on how much gold you have, if you bought anything, player level... Etc.
But I think the random popup for 200 Gold should appear for every player
rancid vector
@quaint bramble what last time??? It's my first time writing something here.
I didn't use bullet before because I don't randomly shoot and there was never more than one bad to vote.
Thanks for response
grim quest
The update which makes win the arsonist (it's new), I find it so stupid... The jailer could lock him up and then kill him.
I don't know if this is where I can put it here.
quaint bramble
@quaint bramble what last time??? It's my first time writing something here.
I didn't use bullet before because I don't randomly shoot and there was never more than one bad to vote.Thanks for response
@rancid vector my apologies, someone wrote almost the same message ysterday and you said you told this before as well ๐ But yeah it's meant to be like that, to make it a little easier on the werewolves who need to work harder to win already
@wind crescent I believe it is not triggered by being new, but by not spinning the gold wheel much at all
i think it was added to compensate for people who have a lot of troubl getting the ad wheel working consistently
there has also been quite some bugs of this 200 gold popup not actually adding the gold, so that could be another reason why its not as widely avaialble
deft cairn
village killing roles that can kill innocent should have 2x kill point lost if village lose, agree or nah? this should discourage random killing.
wind crescent
@wind crescent I believe it is not triggered by being new, but by not spinning the gold wheel much at all
i think it was added to compensate for people who have a lot of troubl getting the ad wheel working consistently
there has also been quite some bugs of this 200 gold popup not actually adding the gold, so that could be another reason why its not as widely avaialble
@quaint bramble
I went 2 months without spinning it before.
And there's a few in my clan who have likewise not spun in ages.
Oh ok, I didn't know about the bug part. Thank you for clarifying, that could be it ๐๐
quaint bramble
@grim quest Heya thats actually not really new at all, this is a specific exception of jailer (not just any villager) vs a solo killer.
If the jailer did not have a bullet anymore, the game would go on for days (jailing arso, nobody can kill, tying the vote 1v1)
This is an undesirable situation where nobody wins and it wastes time just to spite people etc.
Thats why this exceptional instant win was added.. sadly there is the one thing, the game does not/cannot check if jailer has a bullet or not. So its always like this, keeps it simple too...
wind crescent
@quaint bramble
I went 2 months without spinning it before.
And there's a few in my clan who have likewise not spun in ages.Oh ok, I didn't know about the bug part. Thank you for clarifying, that could be it ๐๐
@wind crescent
Because I saw it posted this morning and didn't see anyone answer it, so I was really curious
quaint bramble
village killing roles that can kill innocent should have 2x kill point lost if village lose, agree or nah? this should discourage random killing.
@deft cairn Skill points so we are talking about ranked... killing a villager is not always a random kill nor a gamethrow. If the evil roles played really well, they can convince a gunner to shoot a doc for example, thats part of the game... Therefor we rely on reports to alert guardians of wether it was random/gamethrow
grim quest
The jailer unfortunately had a bullet :( but I understand better thank you, I just didn't know it. @quaint bramble 
turbid willow
I miss snippets...
quasi spoke
Hey can we accomodate all time zones in the events please?
fervent panther
Typo.
The forger sword after used should have ended with "kill." instead of "kill ."
velvet jetty
Add sorting to clans in the "Members" tab. So that you can sort by the participant from the most experience for all time/week to the least, from the largest donation to the smallest, and so on.
wise vortex
Just a suggestion, may be add a clan link in player's bio that go directly to their clan
Because sometime we want to join same clan with other player but the bio have unique font that we cant write in search clan
vivid cape
Hi, I have a suggestion, when someone of your friends changes his/her name, put a little icon besides the nick so when you click on it you can see which one was the last name that he or she had. This will last like one week to 15 days maybe
Something like: This player last nick name was: _
normal wyvern
@turbid willow Snippets have been removed for tests. The community abused it to force revealing roles, so they decided to remove it. We don't know when they will appear again and in which way. Be prepared!
@quasi spoke Heyy, they try to give all timezones the chance to join. It is not always really possible especially in weekdays and when everyone have almost the same timezone. Thank you for your suggestion
@fervent panther Hey hey, thank you for the suggestion. I will redirect it to the translators to fix that!
@velvet jetty Hey hey, this has been suggested before. However you already have the "members" menu to check that out. Thank you for your suggestion!
@wise vortex Hey hey, you can simple click on the name to go redirected to the clan tab and see this clan. ๐
@vivid cape Heyy, this seems to be a cool ideas. Similar ways have been suggested but this seems also like a good one. I will put it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion!
wise vortex
@normal wyvern thank you!!
That time i click the name, and anything not come out so i suggest this
This time i try again and its worked.
May be that time my signal is bad ๐
normal wyvern
Or you got a #bugs-readonly ๐
runic dragon
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upbeat bolt
Currently in the tutorial if you click on the chat, it will open and cover all the screen. It has no point, it just makes difficult to see the chat. Also, after the first time you completed the tutorial, add an option to skip the waiting time between each coach's sentence, because there are just some seconds between them
pine niche
Name change in Quest Heroes as Well
Hola! I think that if a player changes their in-game name, their name on the quest heroes should change as well.
nocturne wharf
I'd like to have a personal log just for myself with my recent activities (like the clan log but with only my own activities)
Example: "Left Clan A on the..., accepted friend request from X on the 25th of October, declined friend request from Y on..." etc. Also when I donated, opted in/out.
Especially good for accidentally accepting or rejecting friend requests.
pine niche
[See the Rose from Your Spectator Friend]
Yo. I think that when a spectator sends you rose, you can see a rose float from the bottom of the screen towards your avatar. Same as the spectator, they should see a rose from the bottom of the screen towards the avatar of the person they sent the rose to.
And then there should be a message (in red) saying that "(ign) , a spectator, has sent you a rose."
nocturne wharf
I'd also like to have a Title to the Clan Quests. I'm sure they are sorted by some sort of names, maybe they could be displayed on the "All Quests" tab? So when someone in the clan chat says he'd really like Quest A when it comes around, that everybody knows exactly which one he means.
(I'm on a roll today sorry)
Talking about Clan Quests:
Please make an announcement ingame when new Clan Quests get added and which one they are (and if Gem or Gold). So also people without Discord know about it.
When there are activities like Staff Hunt, maybe make an ingame announcement about it too? Like a pop-up (which you can check to not show again) when you open the app that there is a staff hunt going on for prices, and to check discord for further information.
Many people were wondering what was going on in the past Staff Hunts because they didn't know about any events.
uncut owl
Is there an online authority?
I'll give the name of the game and you buy a ticket for me because I couldn't buy a ticket
Name= Fener
nocturne wharf
When members leave the clan, they could have the option to give a reason why (in case they don't have the leader added, and don't wanna post in public). This could appear in the clan chat or log for the leader/co's only (if that's possible).
A custom welcome message (by the leader) that gets automatically sent when a new member joins the clan
Favorite gamemode on the profile: Quick Game, Ranked, Custom Game or Sandbox.
(โ๐ปthis could also include the display of spoken languages here as suggested before)
midnight flax
- You click on outfits and it shows you every possible outfit you can get from the random choice.
I think they should do the same with the Gravestone button.
I know there's more than the 6 that are on the cover, so they should show a list of all possibilities you can get, and also for checking off the ones you may already have.
nocturne wharf
Being able to sort Clan Quests by Completed/Favorite. Therefore also be able to make some your favorite by giving them a Star
midnight flax
- Another suggestion is to be able to see the exp quota from clan quest without having to leave the game.
Maybe a way is to click from your profile, section clan an have it written somewhere - See our roses history, sometimes I feel like some went missing, I wish we could see if we have previously accidentally clicked send. Or how much we have received by whom
- The coin wheel: It would be nice that wheel doesnt spin everytime. An option is after 5 consecutive time of rolling the wheel, it will automatically give us the coins/rose without having to show that its rolling
- When we click clan members in clan, it would be nice to click and it will direct us to their message or an option for that (at least put a message option in corner right when their profile appears)
- I should able to set the inventory like: "from common to rare/from newest to oldest"
- There is a clan quest (that one with the bunny) which has the mouth like if it's a mask...for this reason I think that should be put in "mask" section
shut herald
Bomber shall have ability like arsonist to chose 3 players to bomb and if they protected they can't be bombed
Since it hard to win as bomber
runic dragon
I think every single killer should have a story and these stories should be published on discord. (ping me ฤฑ am ofline)
Because the question comes to my mind why the arsonist is burning houses
why, for example, burning as a result of previous trauma
arsonist
corr
sect zomb why thay killer
they*
plain lintel
(Don't warn) Join the werewolf lore server
For WWOCS, remember to disable snippets
10 does not work due to gamethrowing potential
normal wyvern
Currently in the tutorial if you click on the chat, it will open and cover all the screen. It has no point, it just makes difficult to see the chat. Also, after the first time you completed the tutorial, add an option to skip the waiting time between each coach's sentence, because there are just some seconds between them
@upbeat bolt Hey hey, this looks interesting and I will put both in #feedback-devs. Thank you very much for your suggestion!
upbeat bolt
@normal wyvern
midnight flax
- Another suggestion is to be able to see the exp quota from clan quest without having to leave the game.
Maybe a way is to click from your profile, section clan an have it written somewhere - See our roses history, sometimes I feel like some went missing, I wish we could see if we have previously accidentally clicked send. Or how much we have received by whom
- The coin wheel: It would be nice that wheel doesnt spin everytime. An option is after 5 consecutive time of rolling the wheel, it will automatically give us the coins/rose without having to show that its rolling
- When we click clan members in clan, it would be nice to click and it will direct us to their message or an option for that (at least put a message option in corner right when their profile appears)
- I should able to set the inventory like: "from common to rare/from newest to oldest"
- There is a clan quest (that one with the bunny) which has the mouth like if it's a mask...for this reason I think that should be put in "mask" section
- I would like to see a different method of matchmating, specially for who has a high rate of suicides
- There are lots of words which are censored also if that aren't bad words (for that words that "contains" bad words but don't mean something of bad.
- Maybe another a way to get more "coins" is adding some task (like for the event: play 3 games with your friends or win 5 game as villager) but this should be checked automatically
- One of the biggest problem of this game is the gamethrowing, in my opinion there should be an auto ban (for example a gunner what shoot 2 times a good person should be warned by a bot automatically
- I'd want to see also like a little feature: "the favourite role" that basically is the role with one person has the most rate win or something like that
- Many people don't know that when you receive a loot box, can click on their reward to double it... maybe I would change that button "1 new loot box"
normal wyvern
Name change in Quest Heroes as Well
Hola! I think that if a player changes their in-game name, their name on the quest heroes should change as well.
@pine niche Hey hey, this has been suggested before but I would like to repost it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion!
I'd like to have a personal log just for myself with my recent activities (like the clan log but with only my own activities)
Example: "Left Clan A on the..., accepted friend request from X on the 25th of October, declined friend request from Y on..." etc. Also when I donated, opted in/out.
Especially good for accidentally accepting or rejecting friend requests.
@nocturne wharf Hey hey, a personal log would be interesting. Especially if you accidentally declined a request and want to send one. I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for your suggestion!
plain junco
After game suggestion:
Next to accomplice icon, there should be a number that shows their bandit's number. It can be useful in games which has more than 1 bandit.
normal wyvern
[See the Rose from Your Spectator Friend]
Yo. I think that when a spectator sends you rose, you can see a rose float from the bottom of the screen towards your avatar. Same as the spectator, they should see a rose from the bottom of the screen towards the avatar of the person they sent the rose to.
And then there should be a message (in red) saying that "(ign) , a spectator, has sent you a rose."
@pine niche Hey hey again! This seems to be interesting. Being able to see roses could be very confusing for the users but seeing a message could be possible, so I would like to add suggestion 2 to #feedback-devs! Thank you for your feedback!
midnight flax
- I'd like to see a new game mode: like a avatar catwalk where the avatar with the most vote, wins a little reward
- Many people has a second account...my suggestion is: put a button where (without log in) I can change my account
Thanks to who'll read this ๐ฅฐ
normal wyvern
@nocturne wharf Hey hey, the name could be actually very interesting and is similar to the suggestion with normal offers because you don't see the names there as well. At the moment they are sorted by the Alphabet. And I will put the suggestion in #feedback-devs!
An announcement for them is already possible with the "announcements" and you can find them there. After all this has been also suggested as normal notification before.
Staff hunts and special discord events should be also announced in the game should work and I think I heard it before, so it has been suggested before.
Leaving the clan with a reason should be interesting again and I would like to post it in #feedback-devs!
A custom welcome message could lead to bugs and some problems. At all the idea is nice but it would not be very hard to send a welcome message without a automatical bot message. Also it could be very flooding in the game.
I don't really get the favorite gamemode suggestion, especially the last part..
Sorting them has been suggested before and at the moment Clan Quests are sorted by the alphabet.
Thank you for the feedbacks!
runic dragon
I think the killers must have stories because killing a person for no reason is ridiculous
they all must have a short story
short
for exampla corr arso why,
Why does it hypnotize people?
posting stories on discord
nocturne wharf
@normal wyvern favorite gamemode so I know when people love custom games, they might like an invitation if i make one.
Together with the languages I'd know who I could invite to a German custom game for example ๐ that's why. Sorry I was thinking too far ahead and left that out
runic dragon
maybe eat canni nobody gave food
sorry
spoopy is writing
I am very excited
huh omg๐ฅถ
normal wyvern
@midnight flax Hey hey, I will go through your ideas and will answer them all. If you see a [Part 1] it is because of the discord letter limit.
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I agree that they are definitely more gravestones than viewed. I will put it in #feedback-devs!
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This has been suggested before and a small click when leaving the quest could be possible especially when it has to update what it probably won't do in the game.
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At all you have a rose history in the game for each game and friend lobby. I need it a bit clearer for what you need it.
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Skipping the spin has been suggested before and is up to the developer.
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This has been suggested before for Leaders and Co-Leaders. Should this be possible for all clan members?
6.I don't really get it. The second thing is not possible because they don't note when the skin has been added. The first thing is not really clear.
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I will post it in #feedback-devs for you!
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A different matchmaking has been suggested before and at all it could be very hard to do that. Suiciding won't be encouraged but punishing others when they did that before is not the right way.
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These words are censored by the system and because people could write capital letters and bypass the system easier.
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Tasks have been suggested before multiple times and are up to the developer at the moment.
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Automatical bans are not possible for gamethrowing because the game can't detect the sect or the couple and when they do it on purpose. These would be too many bugs then.
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Could you give more details about this? It is interesting but I don't really get where to find out, ...
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I don't really get this suggestion as well.
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New gamemodes have been suggested and this could be a bit against players who don't spend money to the game.
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This could easily encourage switching the account when you are banned. This would not be the purpose of this feature then.
Thank you for your suggestions!
@normal wyvern favorite gamemode so I know when people love custom games, they might like an invitation if i make one.
Together with the languages I'd know who I could invite to a German custom game for example ๐ that's why. Sorry I was thinking too far ahead and left that out
@nocturne wharf Ahh this makes more sense and would be interesting. I will put it in #feedback-devs!
Bomber shall have ability like arsonist to chose 3 players to bomb and if they protected they can't be bombed
@shut herald The bomber is able to place 3 bombs on 3 users. At all the order is up to them and they can rotate to switch. The idea to put it on different users who are not in a row could make him too overpowered. Thank you for your suggestions.
I think every single killer should have a story and these stories should be published on discord. (ping me ฤฑ am ofline)
@runic dragon Hey hey, at the moment Werewolf Online has the Werewolf Online Lore Club. They don't know how to impletend it yet but we will see! Thank you for your suggestion!
After game suggestion:
Next to accomplice icon, there should be a number that shows their bandit's number. It can be useful in game which has more than 1 bandit.
@plain junco To see which one has been selected first, like the order? Should this be the case for the other converting roles then as well?
plain junco
@plain junco To see which one has been selected first, like the order? Should this be the case for the other converting roles then as well?
@normal wyvern No. Who is their bandit? It is for that
normal wyvern
Now I dont get it ^^
peak geode
Hi! I think that when I play with a friend, there should be an option here for custom games. And when I click that, it should lead me to a page where i could choose a custom game. There should be an indication if a custom game enables invites or not (so we can only join one with invites). If, in case, my chosen custom game can only accomodate one person, then i shall be notified that we cannot join that game. We can only join a game with two or more empty slots (because there are two of us).
I have suggested this because whenever i invite a friend on a lobby that is being hosted by an anonymous person, the lobby gets full before my friend gets to join. So i end up playing alone and not with my friend ๐ญ
plain junco
@normal wyvern for example 1 and 2 are bandit. 1 converted 3, 2 converted 4. After the game, you see 1 2 bandit. 3 4 acco but who converted 3? Who cpnverted 4? With this suggestion, you know that 1 converted 3.
normal wyvern
ahh, alright. Makes more sense now to me. I will post it. Thank you for your feedback!
peak geode
There should also be an option to save avatars on the device. (Not just share to platforms).
fickle beacon
@peak geode Hey You can already save your avatar on your device by clicking share -> save photo (or something like this), so I donโt think a separated option is needed. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
peak geode
@fickle beacon thanks for the response. But I don't have "the save photo" option in both of my devices (OPPO A3S and Samsung Tab 8.0). A way for me to save photo is by saving it through drive which is a bit hassle.
Because I'd have to download the pics from there.
fickle beacon
@peak geode Then it looks like a good idea, thanks for telling me and for the feedback. Iโll post it in #feedback-devs!
@peak geode Hey For your custom feedback, I donโt think that would work. Customs games can only be created if you have bought it and by making an option to change the flag (quick game or sandbox) in play with friends lobby to custom game can make, for example, someone who doesnโt have the custom games bought host a game (if the original host leaves). Also, custom games have settings that these other game modes in the play with friends lobby doesnโt have, so the lobby for custom games are very different (you can select roles, the name of the room, the time of each phrase, if the roles should be hidden upon death, if talismans are enable or not, if there is a password or not and many more). Thanks for the feedback, tho!
errant dune
When I joined a game I was seer, but then the gunner shot me so med revived me. But then he shot me again! My feedback is that when a role is revealed from a villager he canโt be killed bij Gunnersbury jailers or anything in that direction.
tidal monolith
For the little red riding hood hat it cuts off some of the mask item that we equip
The mask looks like this normally
fickle beacon
@errant dune Hey As a revealed villager can become evil (sect, werewolf, zombie etc), I donโt think this would work. This guy gamethrowed (shooting a confirmed villager) so please report them in game. Thanks for the feedback!
@tidal monolith Hi This happens because the mask layer is down the hat layer, so every mask can be hidden by the hat. Thanks for the feedback!
tidal monolith
Okie ty
exotic apex
hi, please fix iphone 12 pro display with wwo. canโt see the timer/settings when ig~
safe olive
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pulsar pendant
There could be quests with different stages - similar to clan quests. One quest is one skin (this could be the WWO-roles but much simpler than they are in the special offers or just other things, or some gold added, so one quest got like 15 stages and the skin got 6 items, or just the skin). Each stage got one item of that skin. You got 24 hours to get a certain amount of things (maybe things like five wins with village and five with wolves, play a game as [role] or play with a friend, like three to five requirements per stage). The things you need to do could become harder from quest to quest.
This could encourage players that aren't part of a clan or are part of a rather 'bad' clan to play more games (or don't get accepted in better clans because of their player level)
The players would be able to choose when they start a quest (but not which quest) and then they have to complete the stages of that one until it's finished. After you finish a single stage of a quest, for example after 6 hours, you still need to wait until the 24 hours are over and that can't be skipped, so people don't rush through it.
I hope it's explained understandable^^
*just a small amount of gold if added to one quest
**also, if you don't finish the tasks in time, you have to start all over in that stage
open flare
Hi. I think that Platinum League is too easily accessible right now. Beginners need to spend some time in Silver League and then in Gold League before playing in the higher League. I suggest that we come back to the ยซย oldย ยป system aka:
0 - 1399: Bronze League.
1400 - 1699: Silver League.
1700 - 2199: Gold league.
2200+: Platinum League.
normal wyvern
hi, please fix iphone 12 pro display with wwo. canโt see the timer/settings when ig~
@exotic apex Hey hey, it has been redirected to the developer already. We don't know when they will fix this issue. Please be patient and thank you for reporting it!
@pulsar pendant Hey hey, this seems interesting but could be a bit unfair for players who are already in a good clan. 15 stages is too much for hard things and increasing it could be someday no able to manageable without teaming or gamethrowing.
Example: Winning 5 times as solo role.
You don't mention how they will be obtainable. So they are for free which would not honor the designer at all. Thank you for your idea.
Hi. I think that Platinum League is too easily accessible right now. Beginners need to spend some time in Silver League and then in Gold League before playing in the higher League. I suggest that we come back to the ยซย oldย ยป system aka:
0 - 1399: Bronze League.
1400 - 1699: Silver League.
1700 - 2199: Gold league.
2200+: Platinum League.
@open flare Hey hey, this is kind of suggested before multiple times and is not up to the developer. However this could be a similar feedback:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/764415184026206218
Thank you for your suggestion!
Those who have a suicide rate over 20% should be banned
@normal horizon Hey hey, people get an automatical suicide ban when they have 5-6 suicides within 6 hours. It has been suggested before to reduce the time and the amount of suicides. However banning people with >20% suicides is impossible for the guardians and new players would be instant banned even they had connection issues. It would be impossible to do but thank you for your feedback!
open flare
@normal wyvern sowwy i didnโt see
thanks 
normal wyvern
No worries! You are very welcome! 
magic wigeon
Add anti couple talisman to protect myself from getting coupled. I hate dying on the cost of others.
Cupid is unnecessary!!!
digital summit
The words "role" and "roles" should be censored in game as it is you can't play the game and have any fun due to people just straight asking for roles day 1 and marking you as a target if you refuse. Lots of fun being dead first day every game because people are too lazy to play the game the way it was meant to be played.
Do you get extra points winning as a cpl?
can't remember
nice, knew arso and fool did; if you leave a game when you die and can't be rev'd do you lose out on exp?
cunning notch
It says in th game, like all the exact xp values
stuck basin
Heyy, I have a suggestion for Questheroes, maybe it would be interesting to set stages where you get a reward, for example you reach 30 points and you get gold, gems or an item for that. Maybe every 15 or 20 points that could be possible. Similar to leveling up and getting a lootbox for that
runic dragon
hey i just noticed that when mm shoots but dies, it says "killed himself" which refers to a boy, so shouldn't it be better if it was "killed themselves" the same with priest too!
shut herald
Make a easter egg for 1st of november
nocturne wharf
When 2 Sheriffs are ig, and one of them watches the person that gets killed (and the other one doesn't) both get results - even different results!
Example:
Sheriff 1 sees 4 or 11 killed 16.
Sheriff 2 sees 4 or 12 killed 16 (without watching 16)
So it makes clear it was 4.
Either don't give both Sheriffs the results, or give them the same results at least. ๐
It would be nice to be able to set our birth date (in private and not showing to others optional), and on our birthday we could get a "Happy Birthday!" pop-up when logging in and maybe a special birthday item.
quaint bramble
Add More emotes that resemble the roles
@solid radish has been suggested before, if you have any specific ideas do write them here though ๐
#feedback-devs message
Add anti couple talisman to protect myself from getting coupled. I hate dying on the cost of others.
@magic wigeon I'm not sure how that would work, since the couple is chosen by a cupid, not assigned by the game...
Also it's how the cupid/couple roles work, you got affected by someone's ability and its part of the game to handle that accordingly. Just like how a jailer can choose to kill you if you claim doc, if he doesnt believe it, etc.
Add custom background, just the way everyone has their own gravestone/outfit, they should also have custom backgrounds
@solid radish this is a common suggestion, note that something like that (if it ever gets added) probably shouldnt be visibl to everyone, because all those different bg will look messy and make it more complicated to show day/night phase etc
@digital summit The word role serves more functions in the chat than just role calls, I dont think censoring it is necessary at all, and it would be too easy to get around that anyway.
Rolecalling when there is still other options to gather info, or using a rolecall as only excuse to shoot someone before 3 all classify as random (killing) ingame and are reportable offenses
digital summit
Maybe on the bg front we could have a slider for colors that doesn't allow us to change brightness that way day and night can have two varying shades
quaint bramble
Do you get extra points winning as a cpl?
@digital summit Heya next time please use #questions for that, this channel is only for posting ideas/suggestions and such.
A couple win is 95 xp while a village win is 50 xp, so yes its more.
a full list can be found pinned in #questions though its a biig scroll down ^^
@stuck basin heya, could you explain a bit more where this gold/gems would come from? From clan funds?
Should the point number be customisable by clan leaders?
@runic dragon Heya, making all pronouns in the game gender neutral has been suggest a few times before and I do believe the devs are striving to do this!
I will pass this on to the translation staff, i think thats hte better solution than posting it in #feedback-devs
Make a easter egg for 1st of november
@shut herald I dont really know what sort of celebration that day is, it's not something international at least :/
Also easter egg suggestions can be done in staff dm's, if you want to describe how it should look or how to obtain it etc
@nocturne wharf The double info is actually a bug and has been previously reported already.. the other sheriffs arent meant to see info from a target they are not watching.
I do think this idea is interesting, but if the bug gets fixed it wouldnt make much sense to exist...
It would be more balanced if the sheriff wasnt able to figure out there is other sheriffs after all.
@nocturne wharf heya a birthday message/gift is a nice idea indeed, its been suggested in some ways before and you can upvote them here:
#feedback-devs message
#feedback-devs message
Maybe on the bg front we could have a slider for colors that doesn't allow us to change brightness that way day and night can have two varying shades
@digital summit hmm but how did we get from 'custom backgrounds' to being able to adjust the colours completely etc? :/
digital summit
well the colors could be controlled much easier than the custom backgrounds in the coding and such I would think
and still allow some customizability while not having to sacrifice the ability to easily destinguish night/day
quaint bramble
what would be the goal of changing the regular bg to different colours, instead of picking different backgrounds?
the available bg's would be already existing game images here, such as the event ones or the share-backgrounds
@digital summit
idle stirrup
The "titles to skins" post in fb devs made me think. (may have been suggested before) what if we could name our own skins and when someone enters our profile they could see the name of the skin?
quaint bramble
@idle stirrup I am 90% sure thats been suggested and posted before, im currently trying to find it
runic dragon
the sound of selecting someone as corruptor hurts my ears. please make it a different sound or make it much quieter.
nocturne wharf
Private messages should be reportable. Getting insulted or harassed in DM should be treated like ingame as well.
idle stirrup
@quaint bramble is there any procedure to implement these changes from fb devs into the game? Like do they choose randomly, do they choose if they have more than x likes,...?
runic dragon
Include a scenario in the tutorial wherein they're coupled or other players are coupled so new players will understand the concept that the Lovers team is not a part of the village/ww team.
digital summit
But the lovers are still apart of their respective teams as well as the couple
vital skiff
Technically, but you have to try for the couple win though.
magic wigeon
Uhm I randomly met a Guardian in a game and did the easter egg requirement but I didn't got the reward
vital skiff
@magic wigeon You should prob DM a staff member about it and not post it here, since might be an easter egg reveal and this isn't really the spot for it either way
magic wigeon
Sry ๐
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Hm i dont really pay attention to the sounds that much, is it really noticably louder than other sounds then? or is it more about the type of sound it is?
The loudmouth scream for me is an example of another loud and abrupt one maybe so I do understand
runic dragon
its not that loud but its a sharp zapping beep sound thats just... really really displeasing
its the same kind of displeasing like a rly sharp metal scratching sound
idk how to describe it but playing corruptor makes me wince lol
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Adding more specific tutorials has been suggested before, it remains a pretty big effort to make those interactive tutorials like we have with the coach and seer right now... Couple rules are explained pretty clearly ingame already the message when you are coupled, cupid decription, ingame rules etc
@idle stirrup The votes are an indication, there is no x votes = add to game requirements etc
The devs read through the channel from time to time and pick things they want to implement
@magic wigeon Heya if you still have questions about a specific easter egg, you can message me and explain what you did exactly etc
I wont tell you how to get it but i can at least confirm if its working as intended or not
magic wigeon
@quaint bramble I alr DM the mega mod but thx for help
quaint bramble
Private messages should be reportable. Getting insulted or harassed in DM should be treated like ingame as well.
@nocturne wharf
As far as Im aware, you can only message with people that you added/accepted as a friend
Which means you can remove them or block them if you dont want to talk to them anymore
If its really worrying content I suppose you can talk about it with guardians, but who you interact with is basically your own choice and responsibility
idle stirrup
I see
nocturne wharf
It IS worrying content and I got told it's not their responsibility. Thinking about this game is for kids 13+... It should be.
If I add someone I played a game with I dont expect to get messages like this.
quaint bramble
Who/how did you contact someone about it then? We can continue the conversation in dm's, if you want to explain a bit more what sort of content we're on about
But in almost every case, blocking them solves the problem, a 13 year old knows how to do that as well, theese kids grow up with the internet and understand it pretty well...
@runic dragon I'll give it a post, thank you
I miht even add a Loudmouth part to it ๐
runic dragon
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also, this has been mentioned by others multiple times but so many in-game messages still refer to players as he/his, it might be time to go through them all and change those to they/theirs.
examples:
โselect a player to uncover his roleโ / โthe bandit and his accomplices winโ
quaint bramble
this is suggested every now and then and I do believe the devs are supporting this, but apparnty its not so easy to go through every text and pick them out so easily
I'll pass it on to a translation manager, I think thats a better place to forward it ๐
runic dragon
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this might be a stretch but eventually one day, selectable pronouns (he/she/they) would be cool but of course idk how the coding works so idk how hard it is
i mean like, selectable pronouns for in game messages
regal rock
HEY MY LAST GAME 2 PEOPLE TEAMED UP IN RANKED GAME... IT WAS AN EASY WW WIN SINCE IT WAS 3WW VS 5 V OF WHICH 2 WERE OFFLINE... BUT WW TEAMED WITH VILLAGE AND ATTACKED ONLY WHICH DOC WAS PROTECTING I WAS WW SEER
I WANT THEMM BANNED RN LOOOK INTO IT โ๏ธ๐
runic dragon
you can report them in-game!
quaint bramble
@regal rock Heya, pleas try typing things without the caps lock on ๐
and yes, do report that ingame., thats all you need.
feedback is not a reporting channel, gamethrowing/teaming is not a discord-reportable issue
And attacking a protected player could be a genuine mistake/bad guess as well.
If they really wanted to throw it, they could also just not attack at all ๐ค
@runic dragon I dont really know the technicalities involved with that indeed, but i do remember it was suggested before
I see its been almost a year ago so i could repost it, if you agree with how its worded here etc
#feedback-devs message
runic dragon
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deep pelican
Feedback from Mentorchat:
I find that the game is not very secure and that you can vote randomly too many times. Itโs annoying to die for nothing. There might be a message like โYou are voting randomly. Please stop.โ That would be good. Also, improve messages. Remove 100% of insults and threats from anything in the game should be banned.
open flare
About the last feedback from @runic dragon... I think itโs a good idea and I wanted to know if it was possible to let us chose a role with our respective pronouns on this server ; ยซย she/herย ยป, ยซย he/hisย ยป, ยซย they/themย ยป.
crimson shore
due to the possibly of inappropriate content being sent via web links with no preview of what you could be clicking, they should not be allowed to be sent through clan chats and DMs other than a censored list of "trusted web domains." as for clan Discord links, there should also be a way to connect and "verify" a clan's Discord server to their clan description. this could be something guardians/other staff can verify for the clans. these verified Discord links can then be made public or private, for only clan members, by the clan leader
fickle beacon
@deep pelican Hey ๐๐ป I donโt really understand their suggestion. You can vote randomly if you click to vote randomly and the game can not recognize if you are doing this as itโs normal to vote someone during the vote phrase. Also, insults and threats are already not allowed and the guardians will ban if there are reports. Thanks for the feedback!
@open flare Hello Iโll send this suggestion to the staff team. Thanks for the feedback!
@crimson shore Hi 
When you click a link, this message shows up. I donโt think itโs possible to have a โtrusted web domainsโ as it would be almost impossible to check every single website, even if itโs the staff and guardian team doing this. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
crimson shore
for clan Discord links, there should also be a way to connect and "verify" a clan's Discord server to their clan description. this could be something guardians/other staff can verify for the clans. these verified Discord links can then be made public or private to only clan members by the clan leader
open flare
@fickle beacon youโre welcome
fickle beacon
As itโs not something related to the game, I donโt think itโs a good idea specially as there are a lot of different clans and after being verified the members can change the server and troll and etc. @crimson shore
crimson shore
@fickle beacon thanks for the help. I just believe there are a lot of ways the app can improve on being precautionary for safety of the users and I have friends that have been brainstorming ways for the Devs to get there
fickle beacon
@crimson shore Thatโs good to know, we appreciate the help! 
languid cape
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I think the ban system (for ranked, not other gamemodes) are mostly wrong and most ranked players just end up appealing for a ban that was undeserved in the first place. Wasting both the guardian's time and the player's time. I suggest the shortened bans or unbans should result in a sp compensation or the guardian shouldn't even ban for something that can be argued to not be gamethrow or random killing. Bans like this should usually have no room for doubt but in a lot of bans I see by my friends, there is. I see lots of bias in some guardians which makes the enviroment more toxic rather them being succesful in trying to get rid of the "toxic playerbase" with such bans.
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I know that there is a ranked guidleline project in progress and approved by philipp himself but, guidelines won't change much unless it is forced like the in game rules. I suggest having different punishments than just bans. In some cases that someone can be argued to not gamethrow, we call it a mistake or a misplay. I think that misplays that cost the game to others should result in -sp because bans would be unreasonale for a misplay like, junior tagging aura when doc is dead instead of a witch with poison or doctor not saving gunner with bullet night 4 in a fool game. Most of you hereknow exactly why ranked mode should have its own defined rules yet refuse to add it in. I can repeat why if asked.
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Hire specific ranked guardians. As you can also see, this system is clearly not working, more and more players are quitting the game either because the player quality has dropped or because of the horrid bans and then the refusal to appeal by some guardians. You can distinguish between a player who is there to troll and who is not. Competitive players who are on the leaderboard clearly aren't trying to gamethrow or troll and guardians also know that. Should they be immune to bans? No. But if there is a reasonable doubt, which in most cases there is for these types of players then these players should not be banned but be warned or get their sp dropped if it's a confirmed throw. Someone who plays 1000 games in a week will of course have more reports and some will indeed be valid. I myself had reports from 5 different games which only one was valid yet I had to argue for a hour straight and stay banned for 10 hours which my original ban was 3 day. One game where I could argue that it was not throw got me banned for 3 days.
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I think skill point system should be improved like, add in the MVP system where you can select which player in your team played best and let them gain sp. This can make people just give MVP to their friends, yes. but you could also help your friend in a 1v1v1 too. It's the same thing. Boosting doesn't exist in ranked so I don't get the problem here. MVP would only give you maybe +10 at max while a win in a 1v1v1 gives you +40/+50. I find it unreasonable to play for +11 skill points and lower my mental health playing in so called platinum.
- Seperate the ranked leaderboards. Different language modes have different games than us and the wolf/village wins rates change drastically, making it unfair for us or sometimes them. How to do it? Make someone start from 1500 again for another language mode if they want to play in another language for the first time. I know both Turkish and English so if I were to play Turkish rank for the first time and have 2100sp in english I would still start from 1500 for turkish ranked and my profile would show the highest skill point I have in a mode and maybe a flag next to it. example: I have 2100 in turkish and 1675 in english I would have a 2100 shown along with a turkish flag next to it. Flag is just optional but would be a nice addition if this were to be put in place.
Iโll just ping you since posting it in feedback devs is out of question ๐ @echo aspen, hope you read it
wise vortex
Just suggestion..
We can skip animation for spinning wheel
remote basalt
Henlo
Can you nerf corruptor? In my opinion it's too Overpowered
Cause you can make ppl can't talk for a day and died at the nighttime and no limits it's not fair lawl.
vital skiff
Serial Killer instantly kills the person, so they select and that person dies at the end of the night, Corruptor makes them die at the end of the next day and you can actually save them by killing the Corruptor before the day ends.
Most roles generally don't have limits.
languid cape
How many times have you actually won with this โoverpoweredโ role is my question here
remote basalt
@languid cape hmm
I actually never won with dat chara
But it's too Overpowered cause medium can't even revive the corrupted person
And the corrupted person can't talk for that day
So it's not fair?
livid thicket
I am on phone that's why it's not a proper line but if you can see; the Accomplice role is a bit differently placed than bandit (the acco one is lower)
remote basalt
@vital skiff ooooo
vital skiff
The player sk targets also can't talk for that day cause they're dead, generally. And Corruptor is a tad stronger in the role hiding area, but sk is the weakest solo
remote basalt
Uhh but the one get killed by illu, bandit, SK can talk with med and why the corrupted person dont
I'm curious
vital skiff
Because that's Corruptor's buff, which has a weakness to it, the delayed kill.
Bandit can make a teammate, Illusionist makes others look like it.
vital skiff
Most killers other than serial killer have a buff that makes them stronger than the serial killer, yeah.
jaunty herald
@languid cape Heyo 
! Lemme reply point by point
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I don't understand the 'most players' part like how did you even conclude that most bans are unjustified?
. If that was the case there would have been complaints or changes already. I agree that sometimes some bans maybe undeserved since in the end even guardians are humans just like us but calling them biased is quite rude especially when they spend so much time to make our game better without expecting anything in return. The least we could do is be polite about it ^^' and if you think any guardian is acting up, you can always report them to Guardian manager and if it's the case with Guardian manager, you can report them to Philipp. -
About this point, I will be honest that I don't really know if bans happen for the reasons you mentioned and about adding ranked rules, how do you propose to make the rules different than the rest? ๐
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Again 'ranked guardians' is quite relative like how do you determine that? Guardians are the ones who know rules better than most of us and again 'horrid bans' is also uncalled for since like I said mistakes do happen(like in your case probably) but most of the bans are actually fair and I also mentioned what to do in case a Guardian doesn't behave. Though I can pass on the feedback about hiring ranked guardians to the guardian manager
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Well...MVP system isn't really something new and while your suggestion is good, I feel like it's not really complete like how would it work? Is it for both win and loss? What about solo teams? Plus imagine the chaos if people start arguing that they deserved the mvp rather than another player and accuse them of teaming๐
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Separate leaderboards has been suggested before and I posted one as well but I think I could give it a repost plus starting with different sp also seems quite interesting
Thanks for your feedback! ๐
ornate rivet
Why did the fast roles change so suddenly? 3 hours ago I played there was corruptor and Wolf shaman, now there are 2 med, 2 auras and AGAIN cannibal. I don't know, at least for me, that makes the village win more predictable and it's already boring. This week it was corruptor, now they did not follow the order from killers. I hope the next week corruptor returns and follow the order of killers. Greetings and thanks...
languid cape
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Almost everysingle friend I have been at least banned once and have appealed which either resulted in a shorten or a unban. None of them play to throw as the ban suggests yet get banned and then have to appeal and waste time. I call it biased because this happens more to the players who play competitively than players who play passive. I have a friend who got a 1 month ban now just because of the multiple bans he recieved before even tho at least half of them were reduced/appealed. A 3 day justified ban turns into a 1 month one.
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Rules in ranked should focus on claims/bullets and overal chat rather than oh he shot a unclaimed doctor even tho doctor is the only good unclaimed left and someone else did claim doctor. He gamethrow report omg how dare he
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Horrid bans iโm talking about are the people who get banned for shooting doctors with 3 counterclaims or giving 100% real info as fc aura (note rv switch is allowed in the rules) or getting banned like me which for a single game, it would maybe be a month if I had multiple bans like that.
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I did say โin your teamโ
@jaunty herald
dull quest
Can there be a revamped description for roles? Something basic like "Doctor is able to protect someone from being killed every night. Try to protect important roles!"
I think it would help newer players understand what their role is supposed to do better
languid cape
Zzz
jaunty herald
Please don't share the logs here ^^
They're meant to be between you and the Guardian
languid cape
Iโm just trying to show examples
There are much more
That was just a funny one I found that got the person banned for 3 days
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Oh yeah forgot to add the ban because someone claimed doc day 1 which is not throwing in a ranked game as there are 3 rvs along with little claimspace which, doc claiming early helps solve the claimspace and doctor wonโt die as they are a potential scapegoat endgame
I mean some guardians donโt understand this and I donโt want them to judge our games. Thatโs all
jaunty herald
I will answer you soon ^^
Just need to confirm something
jaunty herald
@languid cape
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Ok so about this point, the first thing is there might be a lot of justified bans for your friend in the past and if that isn't the case, you know the drill as well, they can appeal with the Guardians and in case it's denied you could contact the guardian manager so we already have a system for what to do in such cases, you just have to follow it
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Guardians already view the ranked games a bit different than normal and take strategies into account as well so I cannot really comment on the cases you have mentioned since it'd depend on a lot of other factors throughout the game and again you have a chance to appeal for that and if still unsatisfied ask about it with the guardian manager
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Same thing as the above
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Ya you did and I understand that but it still doesn't answer any of the questions I asked ๐
dull quest
;( read my feedback
digital topaz
languid cape
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I already said, even if they were unjustified and appealed, the day of the ban doesnโt change if the last one is justified, leaving you with a 1 month ban when in reality that should be a week or 3 day ban + it wastes time so need sp compensation indeed.
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Thatโs exactly why I asked for ranked specific guardians
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Most of the current guardians are informer based sandbox quick game players while ranked is not even dependent on info and you have to act early in most cases. I won as canni day 3 just today.
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Only for the winning team, players can pick whoever they want on their team. Solos wonโt count obviously
normal wyvern
@wise vortex Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is now up to the developer. Thank you for your suggestion!
@remote basalt Heyy, actually the corruptors is quite underpowered for users. The users can be protected, so he can't bypass the protection which has been changed. At all the corruptor is okay and slightly underpowered like Illusionist or bandit. Thank you for your suggestion!
@livid thicket Soo it should be changed?
jaunty herald
@languid cape
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Ok, so what you want to say is if your ban is unjustified and you are unbanned, then you should get some compensation? First unjust bans are quite rare, infact we can't even imagine how many players the guardians ban each day so I'm not sure how this would idea would fit in but I will discuss it with other staff and let you know
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There are quite a lot of guardians that I know for a fact that they play ranked ^^' and I did say I will redirect it to the guardian manager as well
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Again same thing as above
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So, all the players in winning team choose one player among themselves as MVP? I get this part but when will this happen and how will the skill be updated(assuming players choose after the game ends). What I asked was to make it a bit more detailed and I can post it
And I believe Sharon actually answered most of your concerns a while ago here ๐
#feedback-readonly message
normal wyvern
Why did the fast roles change so suddenly? 3 hours ago I played there was corruptor and Wolf shaman, now there are 2 med, 2 auras and AGAIN cannibal. I don't know, at least for me, that makes the village win more predictable and it's already boring. This week it was corruptor, now they did not follow the order from killers. I hope the next week corruptor returns and follow the order of killers. Greetings and thanks...
@ornate rivet Hey hey, the developer are testing out new role set ups at the moment for Quick Play. That means specific roles appear more than others. You can suggest new role set ups with corruptor which will be tested. However we don't know which solo killer will be the next one. It can be also arsonist or serial killer. We will see! Thank you for your feedback!
livid thicket
@normal wyvern the acco icon is lower than the bandit one so yes
languid cape
Players choose immediatly after the game, they arenโt forced to and it will probably be given 20 seconds? For all votes to be submitted and results for mvp given. Also trust me appeals for ranked mode isnโt rare and quite few of them are actually ones that you can argue that it wasnโt gamethrowing. Sp compensation would be the best as this issue wouldnโt be resolved anytime soon
normal wyvern
Can there be a revamped description for roles? Something basic like "Doctor is able to protect someone from being killed every night. Try to protect important roles!"
I think it would help newer players understand what their role is supposed to do better
@dull quest Well, this kind of hints should everyone try to find out for themself. Every single role is important for the village especially if they have to win. However giving the villagers some hints it could be too much and could lead to a "I should do this and this and can't do what I want"
@livid thicket Seems to be new and I will post it. Thank you for your suggestion!
ornate rivet
What about the kitten ww or sorcerer? I already read that sorcerer is a hard role to understand because you need to dominate known sorcerer and unknown sorcerer, so i never see than roles in sandbox, or classificatory and never, what about that roles?
That*
normal wyvern
Sorcerer is at the moment only accessable in custom games but you can include him into set ups
neat ginkgo
I think it would be better if the contributed xp of Clanmembers in Quests only count during the tiers and NOT during the waiting time. Or at least an option where the leader can choose what prefers.
For example a player who is playing only in the waiting time between the tiers his real contribute is exactly 0. That's a problem because many Clans have a minimum of xp/Quest and so it's unfair if this player got his xp without helping at all.
(I didn't use google translate so maybe there are mistakes in the text) โบ๏ธ๐ฅด
runic cove
Pls nerf village in ranked especially in gold ww can't win i won 10 times in a row as villager in ranked also lost 7 times as ww village is too op
nocturne wharf
I think it would be better if the contributed xp of Clanmembers in Quests only count during the tiers and NOT during the waiting time. Or at least an option where the leader can choose what prefers.
For example a player who is playing only in the waiting time between the tiers his real contribute is exactly 0. That's a problem because many Clans have a minimum of xp/Quest and so it's unfair if this player got his xp without helping at all.
@neat ginkgo if this will be a thing, I really want to be able to choose as a Co. Because with 35+ participating, there are the ones who do more xp and finish a tier within 2-4 hours and I can't expect every member to be online in those 4 hours.
Edit: and yes I still want the others to do their minimum xp, otherwise they never would do it - even if they had time. Because they could always say "others do it, so why should I" and idk if they really have no time or not.
neat ginkgo
Good point
orchid kelp
The second offer hair isn't compatible with the ear, The female's hair isn't also compatible with it
orchid kelp
We should be able to see that we got our First win of the day when we won in a game 
nocturne wharf
Right now I have to click outside of the win screen and hold to see the people and their avatars/roles after the game. Making a Screenshot of that is not easy, so I'd suggest to simply have to click to see (not hold) and a second tap would go back to "Villagers win"
When you have a win streak it says so in the xp, but I'd like to know the amount of wins. ๐ Maybe you could put it like "Win Streaks x6"
On the other hand, a losing streak can be very frustrating. Maybe after 5+ losses in a row (of course not for suiciding etc) you could get a random talisman to maybe help getting a better role.
keen marsh
i committed suicide once bc my class started and i got a ban for about 3 days. all my friends are playing and i wish i could join them. my user is Miahhhx.
stark terrace
I am banned for committing suicide till November 1 but I need to play because I am doing a quest and I need to play
My user is LovelyGirl843
plain junco
Quick game roles are giving XP but there are 2 mediums. In custom games which has 2 meds, 2 docs ect. they do not give XP. They should give. Same with investigative roles. There are 3 investigative roles in some quick games so there should be maximum 3 investigative roles in custom, not 2
stark terrace
What?
daring hatch
I actually agree with the limitations for xp custom games. Without them it would be way too easier to exploit the system and make games that are far from balanced, which encourages farming.
Besides, for the qg example, the setup is balanced around the presence of 2 meds, the other village roles are weaker and the evils are stronger. During a custom game you can't be sure that people will create a balanced game with 2 mediums, so it's better to limitate the freedom, instead of letting everyone exploit it. @plain junco
cyan barn
for the role ideas...
there should be a "default" wc depending on what the role is
if village, then have all wws/solokillers dead
if ww, have at least 50% of the population (w/o having solo killers alive)
if solokiller/soloconverter, then have your party be the last alive
this is to shorten character use
for roles
stuck basin
@stuck basin heya, could you explain a bit more where this gold/gems would come from? From clan funds?
Should the point number be customisable by clan leaders?
@quaint bramble dunno, it's just a general idea to maybe do something like that, it could be from clan funds but maybe at certain numbers there could be a reward like when logging in everyday you get a reward. Just at certain stages so like gold or an item. For example every 30 points. Additionally, for each clan it could be added by the leader that they have their own personalised rewards, so that each 10 points (they may set that stage themselves) the clan member gets for example 100 gold. But something generally for all clans that isn't from clanfunds would also be interesting. I hope this explains it somewhat. Should you have more questions, just ask
vital skiff
@inner socket I'm No Demon was discontinued, so the skin isn't gainable anymore. Any versions out there aren't connected
inner socket
I see, thought the apk could work. Thanks for knowing that
autumn finch
I would appreciate a ticket system to get links you'd like to share approved. I orginally wanted two songs approved to share with my house mates and texted someone that aparantley didn't mind but wasn't a house spirit, then asked another person โ I will just leave it as it is, it's alright โ but a system that makes it less likely DMs get lost would be amazing. ๐
slim quarry
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
wise oxide
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
bronze latch
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
rapid bramble
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
sour sable
Hi, I would like to give feedback, gem prices is inaccessible in ios, increased almost 50% the value of 400, and I am sure that many people will stop buying
delicate violet
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
cyan karma
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
normal gust
I would like to give feedback, the prices of gems on IOS and Android devices, were very expensive, this in Brazil, and I am sure that many people will stop buying, because the price of 400 gems is costing a meal
pallid merlin
I'll be clear: stop. One message is enough.
fickle beacon
@neat ginkgo Hi ๐๐ป I believe that this wonโt a appreciated idea by many clans that have many members participating in a quest. For example, 30+ members in one quest will make the tier xp go up very fast and not every member will be able to be only during that specific period of time. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
fallen rain
Werewolf now solve the problems with the values โโof the gems .... In the midst of the pandemic crisis, you are not thinking about people, only about yourself and about profiting from people.
fickle beacon
@runic cove Hello Do you have any suggestions on how to do this?
fallen rain
You should be ashamed of this attitude and take action immediately on this problem
fickle beacon
@fallen rain As Arnaud said, one message is enough. Please stop.
runic cove
How to do what?
fickle beacon
@runic cove Make the gold league more balanced.
fallen rain
@fickle beacon I can't state my opinion is that right?
wise oxide
no chat here, only feedback pls.
fickle beacon
@orchid kelp Hey ๐๐ป The hair not being compatible is a known issue and youโre able to see that you got your first win of the day by checking the xp you won (youโll get the 100 xp bonus). Thanks for the feedback!
frank scarab
I'll ask for my internet provider if I can pay the bills with wwo skins, ok? ๐ค
fickle beacon
@runic cove Imo the rrv helps the werewolves/rk to survive since they can claim.
runic cove
no i mean that is good for rk and ww but the rrv usually gets confirmed too quickly and wws/rk can't confirm theirselves unless they are really lucky
like day 1: 5 rrv claims detective and seers check rrv claims and you can't claim rrv as an evil role because no spot for that and you get hanged for obviously lying
pallid merlin
I think you should stay appropriate and respectful
signal tulip
because for me it is already a lack of respect this increase!
thorny ingot
How can you buy an offer with such an absurd price ???
ivory crag
At least you could have warn us that prices would double, so we could buy before it happened!
fickle beacon
@nocturne wharf Hello The first one looks like a good suggestion, so Iโll post it at #feedback-devs. For the second one, it was already suggested before. You can check it here: #feedback-devs message. For the third one, I think people could exploit this so I donโt think it would work. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
tepid seal
this is absurd and an abuse with the Brazilian community, absurd prices in the midst of a crisis considering that most players are young
pallid merlin
Concern is already being adressed, read a bit above and wait for a staff reply
brave valley
Didn't you realize that they did it to save money and not buy skin? thank you
in short, capitalism
pallid merlin
Well the game has to gain money somehow to survive ๐คจ and as I said, wait for a staff reply
hot flint
Hello, i really have to say, that i dont like the new roles in quick game.
The wolf team is with nightmare, bersek, seer and junior is TOOO overpowerd!!
And no normal seer 4 the village :(((
I think if some people wants to play other roles, they should play an other modi. But in quick game i want the old (classic) roles back. Some friends dont want to play with these roles, and if it doesnt change, me too, sry :/
signal tulip
because I hope it will be resolved and that it will return to the value of 10.90 !!! absurd
ivory crag
Most of brazilians earn less than 30000 gems a month ๐คง
signal tulip
my son BRAZIL IS IN CRISIS, the kilo of rice is 8 reais, Bolsonaro who takes away the public health system ... have a little compassion!
with 17 reais i buy a blouse.
brave valley
Yes, the game has to earn money in some way to survive and I think it wins, but it passed a bit of limits in view of all consumer comments
pallid merlin
@ everyone above
We'll ask devs but it's most likely due to a tax change from the services wwo/phones uses
Raging more won't get an answer or change faster
fickle beacon
@keen marsh @stark terrace If you think your ban was unfair you can dispute it by following the message below:
hearty lanternBOT
ivory crag
I know the game has to gain money to survive, but with this price Brazilian community will have to stop playing (cause we like to buy gems too and it will show even more our social inequality, itโs unfair)
pallid merlin
Read my message above
fickle beacon
@plain junco Seems fair, Iโll add it to #feedback-devs. Thanks for the feedback!
brave valley
well I hope they solve this, and leave the price as it was, otherwise the game really will not be able to survive with people who will stop buying because they find the price abusive.
fickle beacon
@cyan barn Hey ๐๐ป I donโt understand what you mean, do you mind explaining more?
@remote basalt Hey ๐๐ป You could ask this in #wov-chat and come here if you have a suggestion.
misty narwhal
The price of gems is absurdly expensive for the Brazilian community, they should be ashamed of what they are doing #17REAISDEPรO
Inglรชs Riquinho
fickle beacon
@autumn finch Hey ๐๐ป If you want a link approved, you need to DM an online mini mod+. Tbh I donโt think a bot for this is necessary since there is not too much demand. Itโs up to them to approve the link or no. Thanks for the feedback, tho!
pallid merlin
More details to the price change:
Why did it happen? -> As I said, it's a tax change, more precisely from iOS themselves
Don't blame devs, prices are automatically adjusted 
As I said, we'll ask them but no need to continue raging here
Source: https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/26/apple-to-raise-app-store-prices-in-brazil-india-russia-more
signal tulip
tax? are you really charging a tax on something VIRTUAL?
pallid merlin
Yes, anything that is worth money can be taxed
frank scarab
The price of gems is absurdly expensive for the Brazilian community, they should be ashamed of what they are doing #17REAISDEPรO
@misty narwhal
I think wwo is fechadรฃo with bonoro
pallid merlin
That's finance, not just wwo
fickle beacon
@runic cove So you suggest changing the rrv number? And what role would substitute it? Tbh, I think having 3 rrv is better since it will be easier to claim
signal tulip
here's the thing, i'm going to sleep, when i wake up, i want everything back to normal! good night.
pallid merlin
You can want, it won't necessarily solve it As I said, continuing to rage here won't help
misty narwhal
@misty narwhal
I think wwo is fechadรฃo with bonoro
@frank scarab Bourgeois
ivory crag
Well, but this is โfeedbackโ. Weโre responding to the absurd we had received
runic cove
yeah rrv number can be lowered and direct role can be put to the direct roles list in ranked
signal tulip
because if you get nervous it's worse !!! everyone bought for 10.90. for sure at this current value you will lose many buyers.
pallid merlin
So no need to repeat
@pallid merlin
brisk egret
because if you get nervous it's worse !!! everyone bought for 10.90. for sure at this current value you will lose many buyers.
@signal tulip many no, I think he will lose all buyers in Brazil
pallid merlin
Great, let's keep this for suggestions
fickle beacon
Okay, entรฃo vamos lรก:
Nรฃo รฉ sรณ o preรงo no WWO que vai aumentar. O preรงo de TODOS os aplicativos e compras dentro dos apps no Brasil irรฃo aumentar por conta de uma decisรฃo entre o governo brasileiro e a Apple (aumento de taxas).
Reclamar do jeito que vocรชs estรฃo aqui nรฃo irรก mudar nada. O problema sรฃo as novas taxas que foram aceitas pelo governo e pela Apple. O preรงo โbaseโ que os desenvolvedores colocaram para a gema NรO aumentou. Por isso que os preรงos de Portugal e do Android continuam os mesmos.
Vou deixar aqui um link para o artigo explicando: https://www.uol.com.br/tilt/noticias/redacao/2020/10/27/apple-vai-aumentar-precos-de-aplicativos-para-iphone-e-ipad-no-brasil.htm
ivory crag
Well I hope he does lose
signal mountain
Hey guys... i got banned :( whyyyyy
misty narwhal
The Brazilian and humble community must know this, we bought skin from the English and you still do this with us we are non-bourgeois Brazilians
junior goblet
#forabozonaro
hearty lanternBOT
pallid merlin
Read petal's message above and drop the topic please
misty narwhal
#forabozonaro
@junior goblet Kkkkk
pallid merlin
We understand the frustration but continuing won't help
brave valley
And as always Bolsonaro spoiling everything
brave valley
It is a pity, then, that this cannot be solved, because even to buy skin by gift card this price will be well above normal and broken, it will not be viable, I am one of those who will not buy more
Capitalism breaking hearts
pallid merlin
As I said, please keep this for suggestions and drop the topic
Not saying I disagree with what you're saying or that you're wrong, but continuing won't help
runic cove
400 gems here is 2.872โฉ and it's cheap but idk about brazil also you get free gems from battle passes if you can't buy gems
fickle beacon
@brave valley Vocรช pode reclamar com o governo brasileiro ou com a prรณpria Apple, mas reclamar aqui nรฃo vai adiantar pois o preรงo base das gemas nรฃo foi mudado.
Como o Arnaud disse, vamos cessar o assunto e deixar este canal para sugestรตes.
@runic cove Please letโs drop the topic ๐
signal tulip
it does not help you to come with this little chat no. this is a robbery, you guys are robbing us in the face. and I hope BR players will stop buying skins for that game. I will play free fire.
pallid merlin
@signal tulip Read my messages above.
brave valley
I am giving feedback on a purchase situation that is mine and may belong to other people.
pallid merlin
Great, as I said, feedback received, no need to continue
brave valley
Ok kisses bye
drifting cliff
Hi, in ranked games when you are at rank silver/gold you can't go easily further since a lot of people keep gamethrowing/teaming and you can lose a lot of points for this reason (like 79 points once) and it can be frustrating since at ranked mode people expect to play with serious players.
My suggestion is to add a feature that if a lot of people send reports of teaming/gamethrowing of the same match, players who lost points in that specific match get refunded of lost ones.
Thanks for your attention ๐
fickle beacon
@runic cove What direct role? As I said, having one more rrv is better to wolves and rk since they can claim it
runic cove
i just lost 83 points once in gold because of gg throwing the game
signal tulip
reduces the value of the skin, to get 10.90 already with taxes.
pallid merlin
@signal tulip Read what I already said.
brave valley
400 gems here is 2.872โฉ and it's cheap but idk about brazil also you get free gems from battle passes if you can't buy gems
@runic cove Love but the skins we want do not wait for us to get battle pass gems, besides there are gem missions that we usually use from the pass, if you can't solve it don't give these suggestions
pallid merlin
Feedback received, now stop.
runic dragon
Stop
junior goblet
reduces the value of the skin, to get 10.90 already with taxes.
@signal tulip they are right? no, but that's not how it works
meager gyro
@runic dragon Hey how can I help you?
runic cove
im not exactly sure about the role but let's say 1 rrv role gets removed. And fc/avenger or any rrv role that is not too strong but useful can be added
runic dragon
I can't buy tickets> @runic dragon Hey how can I help you?I can't buy tickets
@meager gyro
meager gyro
@runic dragon Didnt we talk yesterday already? ๐ค
runic dragon
How
daring hatch
Aren't you the guy that was muted for profanities
And probably got kicked too
And now you are using an alt
fickle beacon
@runic cove Isnโt it better to just keep the rrv then? This way not only the evil roles will be able to claim but there will be many roles available too
pallid merlin
@daring hatch Let staff handle it ๐
runic dragon
@runic dragon Didnt we talk yesterday already? ๐ค
@meager gyro Didn't you troll me
You said the translator is coming, then you stalled
meager gyro
I see we understand each other ^^
Your problem is that you cannot create tickets?
@runic dragon
runic cove
But it's like 60% winrate for the village and 40% winrate for wws and even lower winrate for the rk if one of the rrvs are strong like an aura or ss or doc/bg/tg/witch
runic dragon
Yes
fickle beacon
@drifting cliff Hey ๐๐ป This would be too specific since not always youโll lose the game just because someone gamethrowing. Also, we canโt just take the points that were added to the winning team away. It would take a specific analyze of that game and I donโt think it would be possible to do this. Thanks for the feedback, tho.
meager gyro
Alright lets discuss that somewhere else
runic dragon
I'm not keen on you You didn't listen to me
runic cove
Rrvs affect the winrate a lot in ranked
reef pastureBOT
Doฤan#8399 has been muted
fickle beacon
@runic cove In gold there are two random werewolves + junior so I think itโs pretty balanced even if the rrv is aura or ss
runic cove
in 1 ranked game, i was ww and two of the rwws was shadow ww, but we still lost because there were 2 witches and 1 tg as rrv
in my opinion rrv > rww
runic dragon
add a simple after the first night to the loudmouths role description:)
rare nimbus
reduces the value of the skin, to get 10.90 already with taxes.
drifting cliff
Well in some cases teaming it's pretty evident.
My suggestion was only of restoring lost points not to remove points to the winning team and to be considered the refund a lot of players of the same game have to send report for the same one. Like 75% of people complaining about the same match -> someone checks it and sends refund to players.
But I got it, it would take too much work maybe. Thanks anyways for answering ๐
pallid merlin
round quail
@drifting cliff Hey ๐๐ป This would be too specific since not always youโll lose the game just because someone gamethrowing. Also, we canโt just take the points that were added to the winning team away. It would take a specific analyze of that game and I donโt think it would be possible to do this. Thanks for the feedback, tho.
@fickle beacon i agree with this one actually, mostly one gamethrower is enough to lose a game, also there can be some sort of a judge appliance for analyzing the games
cyan barn
@cyan barn Hey ๐๐ป I donโt understand what you mean, do you mind explaining more?
@fickle beacon ok... so basically if i had a role and the team was werewolves, then i could just write default for the win condition instead of saying "have all killers dead, and have at least 50% of the population" :/
technically you could argue that you could write the role type/team (village, werewolves, solo killers, & solo convertors) but with village it's 7 characters either way, and for every other role type/team (excluding solo voting since there's no consistent win condition... but regardless) default has less characters...
so lemme just say what each "default" would mean (based on the team) one more time:
if village, then "have all wws/solos/converters dead"
if ww, "have at least 50% of the population without having solo killers alive"
if solokiller/soloconverter, then "have your party be the last alive"
as far as "multi-team" roles go (like cupid), you'd have to specify the wc
runic dragon
suggestion: add a couples chat as this could be really useful communicating with couple and cupid
plain junco
@runic dragon I remember this was suggested a lot of times. But denied because couple would be very strong. And they are sometimes ww, jailer, med ect. so they cannot follow both chats
quasi spoke
oh wow the events are getting increasingly imaginative and really good ๐
plain junco
Suggestion: There should be a game summary after game like what did village do? What did you do? Who did seers check ect. That can be useful for the people who want to record games (And make it copy&paste-able so we can really record)
runic dragon
thanks for the feedback @plain junco the second prolem was one i actually thought of
So there are a 100 tiers normally for the battle pass items, itโs nice that we get the option of buying a tier for 200 gold coins, however the one disadvantage to this is that we canโt choose which tier we want. Allow players to choose the tiers they want to buy with their gold coins. Sometimes players donโt get to finish the battle pass at all and canโt even get the items they want either. Itโs unfair to those who donโt play 24/7
plain junco
@runic dragon Would not that make players choose the tiers they most want? If you are not playing 24/7, do not pay so do not loose or win something. I do like that. This is battlepass. Not a bonus items and money for us.
And im a normal person in wwo discord plz do not think im a mod.
runic dragon
So you agree?
digital summit
Via a discussion in #role-ideas-readonly : #role-ideas-readonly message Should Shaman Wolf potentially have a slight change to their ability that allows a switching of auras regardless of affiliation?
kind mesa
To: #feedback-readonly message Hey @runic dragon I like this idea! Ill post it in #feedback-devs, thank you! Have a nice day!
wise vortex
In new quick game set up, I like it!! But 2 med ig kinda weird..
I think it needs a lil change
Berserk and nightmare are all ww that using power in night (sometime its become wasting when they use power in same time without coordination). it would be nice if nww changed into daily use power ww like shadow/guardian/paci ww.
If we change the nightmare ww, its better change the 2 user meds too
One of med can be changed into flower child (if gww ig) or sheriff (since just 1 med ig and berserk can kill aura+protector, sheriff can get info from it)
digital summit
That's just the weekly quick game set up it'll change next Wed
plain junco
yes, they made canni, sk; tg, doc in same week but they changed that
wise vortex
I know its change every Wednesday
Its just suggestion
queen lodge
Why are there two meds? Iโve been playing and I come closer to winning a game.
kind mesa
To your other idea @runic dragon: couple chat is impossible because there are roles which chat at night, so there would be 2 chats and that is a bit complicated. But thank you! 
Hi @runic dragon! Thats the battle pass system and it would be too easy (and a bit boring) if we could choose our tiers. Thank you for your feedback, have a nice day!
Hey @digital summit, I think that would be very overpowered. Wolf shamans ability is to shaman player, so there is no second ability needed. Thank you for your feedback, have a nice day! 
digital summit
@kind mesa the ability in what im suggesting wouldn't be addition to the current one, just reworked from the original to change ww and vil auras
kind mesa
Yes, but that is still to overpowered in my opinion. Imagine wolf shaman can shaman people AND can be shown as good. @digital summit
digital summit
But the shaman wouldn't be shown as good? He would still show as Wolf Shaman unless he used his ability on himself
I'm not suggesting he has 2 charges per night like the barber idea just that he can also shaman a ww and show them as good if he chooses to shaman a ww
I guess I should have clarified: The wolf shaman ability should be able to be used on wws to show good just as it is to show bad on villagers thats all๐
wise vortex
That new power will leading player to reporting seer/det/aura because gamethrowing (giving wrong Info bcs shaman)
Or fool can faking seer/det/aura to give fake info, and if wrong he just will said oh he shamaned
The seers will make villager confused and not believe seers info anymore, and they become useless
digital summit
Isn't deception part of the game though? Its really just allowing the shaman to use their ability on ww as well
They already can make villagers look bad
quaint bramble
@digital summit it's a big buff and that has consequences for the balance of current role setups. Another problem would be the massive confusion and misunderstandig if the role starts working differently, it will be a messy transition period for quite a while. However you can try creating a #role-ideas-readonly for a ww that makes other ww appear as good aura.
I do agree its too overpowered to change the existing shaman wolf like this, because it makes any and all info completely unreliable. specially detective would be badly affected by this.
It creates a false 'confirmed good', that sounds the same as false checking evil but it actually is not;
Lynch a villager that was shamaned: they are immediately confirmed to be shamaned, and this will lead to some suspicion on whoever voted/pushed the lynch on them, clamed the same role etc.
A confirmed good, would not be re-checked (or killed) for a long time and the match will turn into a crazy 'ghost hunt'
By the time people realize, hm must have been a shamaned wolf somewhere, there will not be any seers left to check who it was.
This sort of game would also increase fool wins by a lot btw.
digital summit
@quaint bramble #role-ideas-readonly is where the thought came from but it was mentioned that creating a role that does what you're suggesting goes against the role creation rules sadly
quaint bramble
Yeah pretty much for the same reason, creating confusion is an important part of the game but a role like this obscures gamethrowing as well
in addition to situations i described above
quaint bramble
yup but i just went a bit more indepth on why we have such rules or why i dont think it works well
digital summit
Thank you @quaint bramble
quaint bramble
@cyan barn you got a response for a staff member there...if you have anything to tell them in return, ping them and tell them ๐ค
quaint bramble
Thats usually how a conversation goes ๐
They will respond when they are online again, we arent working nonstop
cyan barn
They will respond when they are online again, we arent working nonstop
@quaint bramble ik mate
i'd be like lvl 27 at least if it weren't for my mom using parental controls =w=
runic dragon
pog
golden canopy
Guys why am I getting this message 200 times a minute
I didn't report every single player that existed lol
quasi spoke
- There is zero accountability for the volunteer staff
- There is no robust way of getting support, it should be through email or through the app itself, not on discord
- There is no guarantee that rules are applied equally to everyone
- the rules and guidelines should be transparent and available to everyone, there should not be a seperate document for guardians, this should be available to everyone
Have seen all of these things first hand, please fix it as real people are investing time and money in the game.
quaint bramble
@runic dragon heya, do you need any help? do you have a suggestion for the game?
If not, then please use another channel for chatting such as #wov-chat or #off-topic
@golden canopy Hm that might be related to the discord GM bot having issues, a lot of tickets weere handled with a delay so that might be why
I'll pass it on to a mod, they might be able to investigate it a bit further ๐
@quasi spoke Heya, could you explain a bit more about some of your points?
- we have a guardian manager so they are accountable and held responsible for their actions
2 support for what exactly? there is support options in the game as well, and why would email be better than discord? The email adress we currently have is generally intended for payment poblems
3 Again thats what the Guardian manager is watching the team for, if you have examples of big differences between guardians you can contact Sharon for further discussion about that
4 they are, the ingame rules are recently updated and expanded/clarified, partially based on user suggestions and ofc in agreement of the guardian manager as well
#links contains a guardian guidelines doc, this has been available publically for a long ime already.
I am aware it's currently a bit basic and outdated, compared to some newly added nuances in the rules. This will take time but I do believe this will be updated at some point as well
Also I dont really see how investing money in fancy outfits has anything to do with the guardian system.
quasi spoke
It has more to do with the time actually, and equality in treatment, as well making friends here. This is just not a reliably predictable game, where certain kind of behavior is punished, and not. A lot slips through the cracks, there is no real data on how many of the bans are lifted prematurely and for what reasons, and if they were undeserved, even though there is a persistent claim that this is a small percentage. Its like a laissez-faire thing. It is not professional.
In many ways I really appreaciate the informal approach and the deep connect with the community.
At the same time, it alienates people, pushes them away, if you are not in the bubble. Do not know how to better explain this, have seen both sides. It is just the points that I want to reiterate.
- Volunteer staff can only be held accountable for the good that they do, obviously, because they are volunteers.
- The rules are not uniformly enforced.
- The rules are not sufficiently clear. Eg: compare the rules ig to that doc available to everyone. People need to read that stuff. Can give examples... when is it okay for gunner to shoot, paci to reveal or cupid to claim ss. Everyone's interpretation is different, and this is the same for the people who moderate as well. It should not be.
I'm fully aware that this is a particularly difficult game to figure out definite rules, but still, just an email ticketing system with professionals trained to interact with players is much better than a volunteer system. Personally, im invested in people, and am saddened to see them leave, and want to do everything I can to explain these things to the powers that be.
quaint bramble
@golden canopy heya it keeps appearing almost nonstop then? I think for now the only solution is to turn off wwo notifications in the app (i dont know if that actually filters this message too )
I told a mod about it and they will investigat and try to find a solution as soon as possible
as i said earlier its possibly because of some technical issues with the guardian mail bot
golden canopy
Alright I'll do that
vital bridge
100% agree with slant. In other news, this new quick game update is wonderful. The relaxed ranked style in quick is going really well. Ww wins are now balanced from what Iโm seeing. And gamethrowing seems to be cut in half with the absence of a dedicated seer role.
quasi spoke
If I have to distill it to one point, paying customers deserve to interact with support staff on a payroll, going forward, and scaling up, this will become important, and it is important now too, might be preventing the game from growing
like you cannot have a guardian using words such as "idc" or "whatever" to a player
this stuff needs training
professionalism
quaint bramble
@quasi spoke
- I dont know the details but Guardians do need to be 18+ for good reasons, and as far as I'm aware they do sign a contract of sorts, but you'll have to contact Lisa probably if you want to know more about that. Cant guarantee they will provide such info though.
Same for the concerns about training... I dont know how formal this is etc.
But rest assured, they arent just given a list of reports and 'ok youre guardian now, hit this ban button whenever you feel like it' - This is partially due to different game modes more and being acknowledged as having different strategies.
If you have proofs of specifics and such discrepancies being really negatively affecting, then again you should report such things to Sharon as the Guardian manager. - Again, the rules ingame have been updated on that and are more clarified about this. Some exceptions can still be made... shooting before day 3 without confirmed info is generally indeed random, but if all info givers are dead etc it creates very specific acceptability, adding those to the rules isnt gonna help. I can pass on a feedback to provide more and more realistic examples, when the document gets fully updated/reworked
@golden canopy So for investigation purpose... could you give a non-exaggerated answer to how much it's appearing right now? Like in total, or per minute?
golden canopy
quaint bramble
@vital bridge Heya thanks for the positive input, do you want to adress any specific role setups with this? There have been a few different ones over the past few days, incl one with 2 mediums for example which we got some confused reports about
wise vortex
Can I resend my feedback about the current set up I'm qg? Since Im not get any respond yet..๐
If this channel not the place then okay
quasi spoke
Have nothing against guardians or support staff, I actually think they do a great job, it is more to do with the structure of the moderation system and how it affects the end user... maybe more detailed rules and guidelines in game will go a long way... where it is clear in which game mode what you will be banned for what. Many people I know who got banned will ask "what is discord?" when I encourage them to go through the appeal process. That is where Im coming from.
wise vortex
Have nothing against guardians or support staff, I actually think they do a great job, it is more to do with the structure of the moderation system and how it affects the end user... maybe more detailed rules and guidelines in game will go a long way... where it is clear in which game mode what you will be banned for what. Many people I know who got banned will ask "what is discord?" when I encourage them to go through the appeal process. That is where Im coming from.
@quasi spoke im agree
And after get a ban may be add in the warn of ban how to get the discord link like
Setting --> Chat with is on Discord```Some more info about appealing being added ingame, souns reasonable
But where in the app exactly? rules? on the ban?
@quasi spoke @wise vortex ^
meager gyro
@golden canopy 3 short questions:
- Did you report players within the last 14 days?
- Every 5 minutes means you get constantly new notifications?
- If it's like... suddenly having 11 new notifications in short period of time after reporting much, thats normal. was it like that?
quasi spoke
Reasonably, if the ban is in the app, you would expect an appeal button within the app itself
quaint bramble
@wise vortex about the setup feedback, Im sorry I thought it was handled
I suggest reposting it yeah, though ive not been much involved with the new setups so I will ask you to wait for another staff to check it and reply
quasi spoke
My friends younger sister got banned, he asked me to make another account on discord to submit the ticket, you do not want such things right?
runic dragon
Why i got ban for racism and teamming if i didnt thay
meager gyro
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