Pleaaaase take out fortune teller from SB, ppl misuse it completely giving people day 1 cards and pressuring them just to reveal. I was doc and refused to reveal als 3 ww still alive and got killed for it. It's so annoying.
#feedback-readonly
runic dragon
quaint bramble
@runic dragon I'v already heard a few ideas to change the role, nerf it a bit, imo thats better than just removing things
SB is a testing place, so the role can still be changed ^^
runic dragon
@quaint bramble even if you nerve it and make revealing only after day 2 possible, ppl will still misuse it and ask ppl just to reveal.. also: when there is only doc in game and no jailer anymore but gunner and FT, it's the worst combination for village..
quaint bramble
FT might shine better in a different combination yes, we do accept role list suggestions :)
And it can be nerfed in many different ways, like 1 card at a time, so the people can lie that they dont have a card for example
runic dragon
@quaint bramble that's not solving the fact, that people will misuse the cards. And also: if there is only one FT claiming, you can't lie about not having a card if not another ww f.e. claims the role which would lead to both wws to die. That's not useful at all.
If you are a villager and don't want to reveal there won't be any way to lie about not having a card.
The only way to nerve it would be to that ft can toss in cards randomly and doesn't see who has them or pick 4 suspects and the game chooses 2 out of them but ft can't see who have them. But then the role of FT is also not equal at all to jailer and rather should replace paci than jailer.
wraith lagoon
The game would be more interesting with daily quests like "Log in" "Win as a villager 3 times" "Win as solo role 1 time" "Play one game in custom" with a few exp and gold rewards
runic dragon
I really hate it if for example my ww mates comitten suicide and i've got no chance to win anymore. So whats about to let people who loses because of his mates that suicide lose only a few points. Instead -30 maybe only -15 points.
(Only in ranked of course)
And if they still win alone, they win more points
main hull
Ahh soo many
brave folio
@wraith lagoon I think the battle pass is already a type of daily quests 👀 And also many people can't complete their battle pass so it's not really needed 😅
@runic dragon Hi ya, we already received that suggestion through google form. Thanks for suggesting anyways. Our devs will decide it soon✌️
main hull
Do I have perms to send a screenshot
brave folio
@main hull Of course ✌️
main hull
Ok
Can ranked lobbies be made such that they're not abused
I've noticed a collection of players who wait till the countdown begins to leave the lobby
And most times their places aren't refilled
brave folio
@main hull the coundown will start again if there are many players left 😅 And we're trying to find another solution for it. Thanks for the feedback anyways ❤️
main hull
Yes some times the countdowns stops but in my experience the countdown continued most of the times
runic dragon
Hi,
I've been banned until wednesday because I do "anti-gambling", but I never do this !!! Can I be unbanned?
brave folio
@main hull Thanks for letting us know <3
@runic dragon read #ingame-reports-archieved - there is a list of the guardians, contact one of them 
Stay patient and tell them your problem. They will listen to you ❤️
brave folio
@runic dragon yes, you cant speak there. You need to contact one of them through direct message ^^
runic dragon
Ho ok thanks !
ripe stirrup
i feel games without cursed/kww are very propense to have a village victory
my suggestion is to add a ww role that isnt too op but is always loyal to ww
brave folio
@ripe stirrup That's how the game works 😅 Probably cant be changed. You can suggest a new idea for ww role in #role-ideas-readonly instead
ripe stirrup
id rather explain it better. We usually have cursed. but if cursed gets protected or dies by any other means he isnt a ww, being 4vs11, which isnt totally fair.
Kww is the opposite, resulting into a 5vs11 quite easy.
we need a middle point
brave folio
@ripe stirrup As i said above, it's how the game works. We cant stand at the middle point 😅
ripe stirrup
ok
opaque pollen
@zenith orchid Personally I disagree with adding a voice chat option to the game. It would be too difficult for the Guardians to moderate and would be used for Teaming/Boosting/Gamethrowing.
Also it would be difficult/expensive for the game servers and players' connections
eager oar
Make an option to report a game name
hot valley
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silver heath
Make a pc version
placid cove
^that's a good idea, I support and suggest it too
brave folio
@eager oar Ah ye, that game is inappropriate. Thank you for suggesting
@hot valley Mmaartennn, do you have any feedback? 👀
@silver heath That has already been suggested before and playing on pc with an emulator like Bluestack is still fine. Thanks for suggesting as well ✌️
hot valley
still writing it, sorry 🙈
Suggestion to improve gameplay for more "experienced" players
New gamemode:
name: "pro mode"
You will get acces to this gamemode when you reach level 50. At that point, you will receive a message explaining this gamemode and reference the rules.
In the gamemode, the regular rules apply BUT:
- when you get banned twice for offenses in this mode, you lose acces to this mode for an
undetermined amount of time.
- when a player has been "ban-free" in all gamemodes for number used as illustration 50
gameplay hours (preferably excluding custom games) they can file a pardon request for this
mode (a button in the game maybe?) then the guardians can verify if there are unhandeld reports
and decide on granting the pardon or not.
- it would be up to the guardians to see which type of bans they want to make count towards this
mode. (maybe exclude automatic bans)
hot valley
ranked is different, this would not be a competition mode. It would be just like sandbox/quickplay but just with a filter on it
hot valley
a lot of players dont want to play ranked but do want a filtered environment 🤷
placid cove
@hot valley I support that suggestion but with a few changes.
High suicide rate players get more ban time.
Higher level requirement. Like 75 or 100.
And to ease off the guardians work who probably are always busy, make repeated bans last longer. So guardians would have to look into bans that players claim are unjustified.
languid cape
My point is that why not filter the competitive mode that is already in place
People dont play ranked because of the new players and its such a pain to climb platinum mid season
hot valley
@languid cape because that is completely different to the other gamemodes 👀
languid cape
Then it should be treated like a different gamemode. Why are the rules the same
placid cove
Because a competition mode will always attract more cheaters as they will want to make score others can see. I would like a game mode that's free of it and where I can play with people who understands the game like pro people in ranked but at the same time not looking for competition but to have fun.
opaque pollen
Some people play for fun
hot valley
@placid cove the ban time is already pretty long as it is game time not "leave the app open",
level requirement was an illustration but 100 seems too high.
the original idea was: get banned from the mode once, never return
languid cape
Im always against level requirements level isnt the skill of the player
Gamethrowers in plat have 100-200 level
placid cove
I can get with that perma ban on the mode as well. As long as people who ruins the games are out, that's good.
hot valley
If it makes you feel better, a time requirement can be used aswell, it is not really a skill requirement here. It is just something to exclude alts and very new players
placid cove
It's more of a filter than a requirement @languid cape. High level players can't argue that they didn't know how a role plays or should be played after gamethrowing cuz getting to that level, they should know how roles work.
languid cape
So you want “fun” and expect to play with good players, seems impossile to me tbh
hot valley
I want to make a mode where there is no competition stress and where gamethrowing etc is limited to the minimum
seems doable to me
languid cape
If there is competition people will try to win right? No competition means no one will take it seriosuly
hot valley
that is not true
people will still want to win in fun games. They just do not have the stress of "sinking in the rankings"
placid cove
@languid cape it ain't impossible. But we have to keep in mind, trolls are humans and they will always look for a way to troll and keep going with that in mind they are smart too and adapt to it. And even if there is no competition, people will play just for fun like some people in other modes.
hot valley
competition is not required to take it serious
languid cape
I cant relate...
hot valley
then explain to me why a few months ago, the quick play and sandbox games were filled with people who wanted to win?
this has now disappeared a bit and I want to bring it back without taking away the place to learn
languid cape
Thats the same for ranked, everything was fine until a few months ago
placid cove
You know some people play ranked cuz its ranked. Some people enjoy competitive play and that's not for everyone.
opaque pollen
Ranked used to be sportsmanship. I had over 2100 skill. But toxic players made me quit. So I definitely would want a mode that had skill, but weeded out the toxicity & 'Gamethrowing to win' types.
I've added it to #feedback-devs @hot valley
hot valley
❤️
if this works out, we can apply the same filter to ranked modes but to start off, I would try this on a "fun" gamemode to see if it works before messing with ranked
median elbow
@hot valley I like this but for all game modes
lime flame
I personally think the snippets should be modified a little where you can only sent 1 snippet message every 10 seconds or so because now some people are spamming them as a way to confirm their role.
median elbow
Pro mode for ranked. Hell yes.
hot valley
@median elbow definately not on all modes. We need a place where people can learn the game. We often forget that we all needed to learn everything too
median elbow
There's just one flaw. When people make it to the pro-levels they are required to learn strategies instantly. It would be survival of the fittest to learn more things
brave folio
For all modes is impossible. It will be too hard.
hot valley
@median elbow did you read my message? 🤔 we need a place for people to learn the game and develop their own strategies
as long as the strategies stay within the rules, there is no reason why one strategy is less than another
median elbow
Yeah I saw and I agree
analog minnow
Is there a mechanism in place to get rid of all paedophiles in this gaming app? If so, please walk me through it as I cringe upon all the chats that has been happening in my 15 year old daughters chats
Also sexting and nudity involved and I am sad to say it is happening and some people think it is a joke when I am crying when I read them
Also manipulation of guilt and acting sorry is all the ploys paedophiles use to GROOM the underaged kids
I am sick and disgusted with the behaviour happening in this gaming community
night path
@lime flame Hola! Thanks for your feedback. There is a spam limit on everything including snippets, which also “confirming” yourself can be easily faked with the ingame chat as it is 
. Thank you for suggesting!
@analog minnow Guardians are trying their very best to ban everyone ingame. Paedophiles are a no excuse ban. Please, if you have any screenshots of grooming send them to a guardian, however if the grooming is happening in this discord please send it to a mini mod or above. It is a zero policy rule and we try our best to ban everyone who breaks this. Im really sorry for what has been happening to your daughter and we will try to resolve this
analog minnow
Guide me on the Guardians
runic dragon
night path
For this instance, you can contact any guardian because of how severe this is
analog minnow
I have proof of grooming
night path
Wonderful, please send to any above. Again, sorry for what happened to your daughter and being a victim of grooming myself I really hope this can be resolved
analog minnow
Yes this is a scary experience and for this reason I will warn all parents and kids to watch out for predators in this game
languid cape
Well the game is mostly played by kids so I bet the predators are also about 15-17
modest arrow
The eyes of the car are in another outfit
languid cape
Still reportable for sexual harassment
languid cape
Reportable for sexual harassment
But I would report them to a guardian because its serious
analog minnow
screenshots?
languid cape
Yes with screenshots
forest rover
@modest arrow that was the designer choice to make the background like that, still thank you for suggesting! (Also if you don’t want it to look weird you could try to place that outfit on the top 👀)
languid cape
Is there any way that we could be matched with people who are almost exactly in our skill level? Like when a lobby starts and you have 5.3k skill, the matchmaker searchs for people who are in the 5-6k range and if there arent many people in that range it switches to 4.5-5k. I dont really care if the matchmaking takes like 5 minutes I just wanna play with people who are in my skill range. Its not really fair when you get matched with people who have 2.5k skill with 5k skill
And the leagues will be based on the player average skill so there would be a minimum that the skill matchmaker can go. If it goes below that it means its gold league and not plat.
By player average skill I mean everyone that’s playing ranked. Excluding the ones who are exactly at 1500
pine jacinth
can u just fix asap the fact im loosing -18 as wolf while i only win 17 18 19 when im village ?
languid cape
Its because the villagers have really less skill than you. Like when you have 5k sp and the village has 3k as an average. We try to climb ranks so skipping certain lobbies is normal, I dont want to play people who have a lower sp than me because its always bad for you. It doesnt benefit you in any way
I know people are coming here complaining about us skipping lobbies but the fact is that ranked matchmaking is broken and should be fixed.
pulsar rain
Cupid should be considered as solo until the couple dies, so it can't be converted and can still win with couple
ripe stirrup
therefore 2 solos ig?
5 different teams in a single game
nevertheless it sounds fine
pulsar rain
3 including solo voting
night path
@languid cape With not enough people playing ranked, it is hard to find suitable matchups at times. We are trying our best to find matchups best we can with leagues but I do agree a wait time (Like in overwatch and town of salem) to better matchup people! Please note that matchups are not always accurate however. Thanks for the feedback!
@pulsar rain Agree! It would give the cupid more reason to actually hide! Though, something like this has been suggested before! Thank you for suggesting though
languid cape
Well that wasnt exactly what meant but thats fine too
median elbow
@languid cape do you mean ranks within a rank. Like 3 levels of gold league lower gold, middle gold, upper gold
median elbow
I get what you mean though
harsh ingot
languid cape
Report in game
harsh ingot
Something needs to be done about reporting this player is a joke
I did
Happend a few times but seems not alot has been done, I understand you get alot a day I can appreciate that
But they ruin the game
Not ranting at you just frustrated with the player
languid cape
As far as I know, if someone recieves 12 total reports they get revived by a guardian. So its helpful to ask people so they report them.
Oh it has to be 12 different people
languid cape
Np
woeful warren
Guys, if we add the possibility of choose random avatars? I mean, you have 3 avatars, you click on random and it will appear one of the three and each game they will change
lunar salmon
Why are the ww half of the couple allowed to kill the villager half, but the villager half can't kill the ww half? The ww shouldn't be allowed to kill their partner.
median elbow
12 reports on 1 player seems to be to much to get a review to be trigger. I suggest shrinking it to 8 players. This would be 1/2 of a village since of 3/4 of a village.
sacred delta
quaint bramble
@woeful warren heya this is already in the big #dev-vote section right now and seeing the amount of likes it might be getting added already ^^
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/671680912039346187
@lunar salmon heya the werewolf is not allowed to kill their lover either, the couple's goal is 'try to survive together' if they vote you or kill you on purpose, you can report them for gamethrowing.
Keep in mind that if there is still 2-3 werewolves alive, your lover might not have had the choice to vote someone else so it ight not always be their fault if the couple dies by werewolf attack ^^
@median elbow Heya Im pretty sure this has been explained to you before; it does not need to be 12 reports in 1 game, it stacks up across multiple games.
The number 12 also isnt a strict requirement, it's just what makes the reported player an urgent case to check etc.
lunar salmon
@quaint bramble yes I know it's game throwing and I did report them, but no one else reported them because it ended the game. They were last ww alive and they killed me. I mean they shouldn't be able to. If you're the mm and coupled with a ww, you CANNOT shoot them. The game won't let you. The same should be true for a ww.
median elbow
@quaint bramble I don't think that was explained tbh. But I think the number should be 8 regardless
Less is more
quaint bramble
@sacred delta heya please report them in-game for hate speech, the guardians will handle it once he gets enough reports. Speaking something other than english in an english mode is a reportable offense as well. Here on
@lunar salmon if any of his wolf team was still alive they might have reported too, because killing his lover is killing himself too as last ww thats just giving up on ww win as well
fossil spoke
Hi how can i contact a support
lunar salmon
And then said "hehehe" in the dead chat
fossil spoke
How do i speak to moderator
lunar salmon
@quaint bramble I asked people to report him and they all ganged up on me and said no because the village won
@quaint bramble This is legitimate feedback that needs to get back to the devs. The ww couple should not be ABLE to vote their village couple.
quaint bramble
Yep you're right, I will post it to feedback-debs
And dont mind the ganging up its a valid report either way ^^
@fossil spoke heya what's the problem? i can try to answer it or redirect you to the right peole 
quaint bramble
you are banned and disagree with it?
fossil spoke
In all honestly i have no idea why i was reported of game throwing
I suspect its the last game because i was detective and like i voted the wrong guy in the end
runic dragon
quaint bramble
Message one of them and ask for proof/more info on why you were banned ^^
quaint bramble
Oliver is, but they handle their dms in order, you can contact any one of them
fossil spoke
Ok:) Yes im messaging oliver thanks
lunar salmon
@quaint bramble thank you so much, I appreciate it
woeful mesa
Hi, for the last feedback devs, as always there is the sect problem. If you know that your lover is sected, then voting him is allowed.
quaint bramble
Yeah the couple is a complex situation, but in that case it would be possible to vote the sectleader to win as well I guess
austere relic
Interesting idea @fast vine
fast vine
A "modified" role, for lack of better words, which changes one random player, aside from seer, wws, and solo, and makes them soulless
When a role becomes soulless, they can't do anything different from if they were a normal role, but the seers are unable to detect their roles/Aura.
rocky tundra
Make a classic game where flower child could possibly replace Avenger or Mayor
Considering FC’s ability, it could stop a lot of random lynchings
astral fiber
Arso needs to be removed from ranked.
- It's just simply boring. You can't kill the first day, and if you burn second day you most likely lose.
- How often does arso win compared to SK? Barely.
I had a hh/arso game and doc died day 1. Det was reavealed, aura, priest, obviously doc, and jailer. If u get checked, you die. It's as simple as that.
languid cape
I win 2 times more with arso than I won with sk. Arso has a better killing power and is stronger if you play it right. I would suggest replace sk with a more powerful random killer because compared to arso its weaker
Arso is the role with the most killing power except bomber + arso kills more controlled, if you can analyze the game early on and douse right people you win
floral bough
forest rover
@fast vine do you want to suggest a new role, or perhaps I didn’t understand what you meant? If you want to suggest a new role, go to #role-ideas-readonly please 😉
@rocky tundra that seems indeed interesting, and I think that avenger would be a nice replace. I’ll add it, thank you for suggesting 
@astral fiber, Yumi couldn’t have explained better I think about arsonist, in my opinion it is the strongest solo killer. I don’t think it needs to be changed, however thank you for suggesting!
@languid cape about the replacing sk with another solo killer we had recently a lot of suggestions of ranked set ups to solve this + sk works pretty fine imo in ranked. I agree we need a stronger solo killer in ranked, but corruptor, cannibal and illusionist are still making bugs so I don’t think it would be a good replace, and bomber relies a lot in position and that’s as far as I know a bit hated by ranked community. And don’t even talk about converting solos 😬. So arsonist is the only suitable sk replace in ranked I think, however thank you for suggesting!
languid cape
I wasnt the one suggesting a arso change 🙃
I support arso
And bomber is the last thing I want
forest rover
I read “ I would suggest to replace sk with a more powerful random killer...” in your message so I understood that you wanted to suggest that. I’m talking about sk in the message, tho. Sorry if I misunderstood 😅
With sk as in shortcut I mean serial killer not solo killer as you can see that I wrote solo killer a couple of times @languid cape
languid cape
Oh
forest rover
@floral bough do you need help? This channel is for suggesting so if you don’t have any suggestions then please move to #wov-chat or #off-topic. Thank you!
languid cape
I think that we should be able to create a avatar in preview mode and then be able to transfer it onto our own avatar. Because personally I like making avatars in preview mode because switching back to the original avatar when you mess up is hard when you arent in preview.
Plus in preview mode you can try new stuff too, but when you try to transfer something you dont own, to your avatar it will say that there is a item that you dont own. Would you like to buy this item?
median elbow
@languid cape there's a button for that
median elbow
I'm sorry the "you don't own this item would like you like to buy it" option
That be be nice
steep frigate
I was wondering if the possibility of adding a level or games played requirement to sandbox would be possible? Theres so many new players joining sandbox, which takes away the fun of those new roles because they either suicide immediately or they dont know how to play the roles
quaint bramble
@languid cape You see that button with the clock and arrow next to the share button? this reverts your avatar to your last save
so if you mess it up big time, thats what you can press
languid cape
Yeah but with being able to send your preview avatars to your main you can also test new stuff
You cant really test stuff when you are making a avatar with the normal style
You first gotta save then go and preview but I dont wanna save
quaint bramble
@steep frigate Adding higher level game modes or higher requirements is a pretty common suggestion, the devs are aware of this and will be up to them if this is gonna be added at some point
mellow needle
Hi, what about some "lost connection" warning? Maybe some icon that appears when you lose connection or just text that informs you about it.
obsidian pagoda
its so annoying when someone just goes down the line the first day and asks:
''1 role'' ''2 role'' ''3 role'' ''4 role'' ''5 role''....etc WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO IF UR A WW???
idk how to prevent this but i think it should be added to the rules than you can't just ask everyone their role without a reason. I mean, if a seer says ''2 unk'' then you can say ''2 role'' but like this is so annoying.
The game should be based off the seers info, asking everyone for their role ruins the game mystery fun. :/
has anyone else ever experienced this? I have multiple times
vivid blaze
I am literally fed up of repeating myself now... you guys seriously should fix these stupid problems before I or anyone else take this seriously.
Either you make a channel to report random killing, or you make an automatic random detecting system, literally anything. I am fed up of giving so so many solutions and you ignore all of it.
obsidian pagoda
IKR
vivid blaze
One game I was poisoned randomly and instead of anyone saying to report witch they instead praised him. We are not gonna wait the entire game to say at the end to report them, let alone that at the end people start leaving anyways
And technically only one report from us barely works
obsidian pagoda
i hate when u get random shot as ww and nobody cares bc ur a ww
vivid blaze
You can't technically fix the biased and lazy villagers who dont report but at the least you can do other solutions ffs
obsidian pagoda
i have a question have u every experienced what i did? the thingy i said
vivid blaze
@obsidian pagoda yes. It happens almost every game
obsidian pagoda
so annoying
vivid blaze
Even if its anyone else I still report coz it spoils the fun
vivid blaze
It is but hardly anyone bothers to go through, secondly I gave tons and tons of effevtive solutions here, and how many of them were implemented? None
This random killing issue is just minor compared to fake accounts which is just worse
Also guys, seriously... let go of your ego and apply commonsense for once.
The current rotation in quick game its virtually impossible to win as a ww
obsidian pagoda
^
vivid blaze
Since this rotation came I have never won as a ww and haven't lost to ww team either
lime flame
Oh waits, oops wrong channel
vivid blaze
@lime flame please go to bugs
lime flame
Mb* yeah I just saw that now
obsidian pagoda
ima say my feedback again bc devs r too lazy to look back 🤡
vivid blaze
You guys can argue all day idk why you don't understand the problem with first night random protection, furthermore u are too narcissistic to even discuss with
obsidian pagoda
its so annoying when someone just goes down the line the first day and asks:
''1 role'' ''2 role'' ''3 role'' ''4 role'' ''5 role''....etc WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO IF UR A WW???
idk how to prevent this but i think it should be added to the rules than you can't just ask everyone their role without a reason. I mean, if a seer says ''2 unk'' then you can say ''2 role'' but like this is so annoying.
The game should be based off the seers info, asking everyone for their role ruins the game mystery fun. :/
has anyone else ever experienced this? I have multiple times
i just reposted so devs actually see it lol
vivid blaze
Idk about your so called chances but in my case me as ww couldn't kill our desired target first night thrice in a row... this is exactly why I hate random protection first night. It absolutely makes no sense. When I asked you a simple question, what's the point of having it coz it causes so many problems I didnt get an answer
And it happens with me so often... use commonsense for once. What's the point of it. You just wanna make people feel bad for having bad luck??
obsidian pagoda
chee is gonna asnwer i think
brave folio
@mellow needle Hi ya, thanks for suggesting but i dont think it's really needed 😅 And when you lost connection, you phone will give you an announcement too.
@obsidian pagoda You can report them about it. But we can't forbid them from asking role. How if the seer, aura,...every checking roles in the game died?
Also you dont need to repost, our helpers will read every feedback and please dont comment other's feedback.
vivid blaze
And besides the medium can revive the target anyways godamit.
obsidian pagoda
@brave folio like i said, thats different. I complained about them doing it 1st day. ALSO i didnt say that at all. I said it should be in rules that you cant just ask EVERYONE their role with no reason
if youre nearing the end of the game with no seers then thats a differnt story
chee be writing an essay 😳 lmao jk take as much time as u need just ping me so i see it
brave folio
@vivid blaze About yours, keep in mind this that this channel is for feedback, not a #complain channel.
Why we need many reports to do action on someone? Because we cant base on a few reports and ban them without a reason. And the game can't have an automatic random detecting system. The bot can't handle and discriminate which is random killing, which is not.
@obsidian pagoda Your suggestion has already been metioned many times. I will ask my team about it, thanks for your feedback anyways 
obsidian pagoda
if its been mentioned many times why has no action been taken :<
ive seen it so many times its insane and sometimes im ww and sometimes im not
its annoying for the ww
but yes, ask ur team about it pls
brave folio
Then you know the result. We need to discuss and give out the best decision about it when many people complain about their bans everyday. We dont know if it's really needed for the rules
vivid blaze
@brave folio Ironic coz when we give feedback you guys bring up nonsense talks.
Secondly, I'm not saying to reduce the number of your required reports, but to find an actual solution coz I just mentioned the problems in the earlier messages.
There are literally so many that I gave. Ofc some will have little minor difficulties but that doesn't mean you'll use it as an excuse not to do things
obsidian pagoda
^
true dat sorry if i offend any devs in any way but some issues really need to be fixed and they never do
vivid blaze
It could be a random kill report channel, pop up tips in game to remind players the basic rules, random kill detection, or preventing fake acc creation in the first place that doesn't escalate these problems.
@obsidian pagoda exactly. What is supposed to be fixed, is never fixed
obsidian pagoda
i was thinking about the random kill detection, it may be hard but im thinking about the code and it is possible
vivid blaze
@brave folio I posted a bug recently about dead ww killing after explosion and you said devs are still working... guess what, this issue has been since one year so.... yeah... we aren't stupid
brave folio
I hope you understand that we do punish them, you just dont get to see that they got banned. Also you can see we have #ingame-reports-archieved channel. But then why it's closed? Too many players based on it and reported wrong things. We always wanna handle bad behaved players as random shooting too, but it's hard to give out the best choice. That's my answer.
Thanks for all your feedback.
obsidian pagoda
i mean i reported someone for rose scamming me (the rose for rose scam) and nobody else reported bc it didnt happen to them
:/
vivid blaze
@obsidian pagoda Same. I do development and I can imagine a basic random kill detector. For starters, if you kill someone who's number hasn't been mentioned in chat, it can be called random kill.
obsidian pagoda
yes thats what i was thinking
brave folio
@obsidian pagoda That's actually personal problem so we can't do anything even get enough reports
obsidian pagoda
BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ITS IN THE RULES
if someone says ''rose for rose'' thats not me being a moron!
vivid blaze
@brave folio same nonsense as in the past. There's a difference between in game reporting and random kill reporting. Random is just one reason so obviously there won't be spammed reports and secondly people provide proofs
brave folio
If it's a big amount, you can report directly to a guardian
vivid blaze
@obsidian pagoda Don't bother... this is typical of this server. All we get is lame excuses and nonsense instead of answers or solutions
obsidian pagoda
dang
vivid blaze
I've been here for a whole year and I know it too well
vivid blaze
In summary, the reporting system is bs in the first place. Secondly, the staff don't wanna improve it
That's the problem. I'm pissed of at their attitudes of not improving things more than the actual uselessness of the reporting system
obsidian pagoda
''random killing happens too much to moderate'' thats their excuse. THATS A CRAP EXCUSE THO! that just means u need a better system
brave folio
Back to @vivid blaze 's feedback, our devs always work for new versions, also go with fixing bugs. Sometimes they can't fix bug without enough information like how does it happen, when does it happen...
About a basic random kill detector, thanks for your feedback and i will check if it's possible or not
And stop from here please. I will discuss with my team about all your feedback. Thanks !
vivid blaze
Whenever I complain or give feedback, I always get the same stupid respond.
"Report them"
Too bad you guys don't realize that the reporting system itself is the main problem
Lol and here u go. When you guys run out of excuses you tell us to stop.
Well I don't have time rn anyways so I gtg. Bye bye
brave folio
It's ok to stop here because i got all your feedback. And we need time to discuss the solutions.
obsidian pagoda
ok please actually discuss this
brave folio
Always. Thanks
vivid blaze
But lastly @brave folio You're wrong. The problems aren't what devs can't fix but it's that they don't fix or at the least don't even try to fix and always return dumb excuses.
brave folio
We're here and get this channel to improve the game. The fact that we dont want players to be annoyed with some problems, but we can't solve all in a short time.
Please understand and stop here. Im not going to make an argument.
Thanks all for your feedback
vivid blaze
Most of the problems don't even reach the devs coz u guys argue with us so much and ignore us instead of accepting the problem and telling them about it
obsidian pagoda
ive never experienced that bc this is the first time i've suggested something
brave folio
I said I will discuss with my team about it and sure that the devs will know.
runic dragon
sorry for commenting, but please don't pester chee, the staff stands behind their judgements
it's their game and not yours, you can't control what they think should be implemented and what shouldn't
vivid blaze
@brave folio "improve the game" coughs.... that is exactly what you guys don't do. We do our job perfectly of giving feedback but you guys don't do your part of fixing things.
Lastly stop trying to tell people to stop if you don't have anymore excuses. What's the point of feedback if you won't allow us to talk?
Just like always an argument here is going nowhere and we get the same nonsense everytime.
runic dragon
you can try to influence their decision making, but when you're asked to stop or given a no, stop. no need to get all salty
brave folio
The last thing and again, I hope you understand that we all want this game to be better. Why should we want it to be worse? There is no reason.
vivid blaze
@runic dragon I was anticipating this response coz it's the lamest of all. their game lol. We know that.
We aren't judging their decisions but we are judging their ignorance of not answering our problems.
runic dragon
you cannot control the devs
vivid blaze
And you guys don't have the right to make us suffer either
vivid blaze
Our gameplay is super bad coz of their ignorance
runic dragon
please don't act like you're superior, the staff and devs do not necessarily have to agree with you
you have given a solution to a problem, but is it the best solution?
brave folio
Thanks for all the feedback. And stop making an argument here. You can move to #wov-chat if you wanna continue.
obsidian pagoda
ty chee
vivid blaze
I'm not acting superior. I'm literally just stating the obvious problems but you just wanna close your eyes and pretend it's not there. The problem is that you don't agree on the obvious truths, not that you don't agree with a user.
Secondly, if you're judging my solution, do you have a better idea? If not, then stop.
Even if its not the best solution what u wanna do? Think about it yourself. What's better? To actually try to fix something by doing whatever's possible or just sitting there doing nothing and letting the problem continue. Grow up ffs.
I'll try finding a book on commonsense and I'll send you guys the link coz you need it. Good night bye bye
runic dragon
the best way to deal with gamethrowers was always reporting, it's just that you lost faith in the system...
having to throw in insults as arguments too, mkay
brave folio
We actually think about it, but there are many problems related to that thing. And I said that i will discuss with my team about your solution.
What's the point to keep discussing and complaining here?
vivid blaze
And they do it again 😂 I literally just said reporting itself is the problem and what they respond with is "report them" lol. Exactly how I mentioned before.
Anyways this is my last message for today. Only continue later if you understand the actual problem we're stating and wanna discuss rather than stating same nonsense everytime. Bye bye and good night.
brave folio
We all got it 🤷♀️ Thanks
opaque pollen
Also a reminder. Chee is considered Staff so if they say to stop then stop as per the Server #rules-archived 
brave folio
Captain Tysmm 
runic dragon
I saw some questionable arguments here
brave folio
It's ended. Dont need to talk about it again.
runic dragon
Okay then
Also, I don't know if this was suggested before, but besides the main mechanic of getting rose is through "Rose for Rose", we should have another way of getting those roses. Like we can make the rose in the Wheels give you one rose that you can buy stuff instead of one rose that you can use to send other players. Seems more efficient to me.
roses are like currencies so i think a mechanic like that may ruin the purpose of it?
Again, I really dunno about it
It's just that you can meet people who says "Rose for Rose", but literally gives no rose back when you send them one
Or rose scam
brave folio
Yeah, but that's the main purpose. If you have a real friend, that you can trust in game, they will never scam you
brave folio
Ye, that encourage you to make friends and have a good friend.
What's the negative 👀
brave folio
Oops 😅
runic dragon
Yeah, I know
Don't worry
Again, it'd still be nice if we still have some other way to get the rose, if you don't feel like you trust someone all that much
if you're worried i can always trade roses with you, but let's move to #wov-chat seeing how the feedback is already solved
Okay then
brave folio
I don't think it's really hard to have a good friend to trade roses with 
brave folio
quick zephyr
uncut tusk
@runic dragon Heya, you can go to #questions for that 😉 And people will answer you (not really creators)
mellow needle
@brave folio thank you for answer..
Well, my phone is silent when I lose connection :D and I know that's my problem, but there isn't greatest internet and I think I'm not alone, who have weaker internet.. 😕 so I'm sure, that not only me but other players would appreciate it.
You're right, that's minor and little thing and I'll understand if it gets rejected, but I think and hope it won't hurt anything. :D
runic dragon
Thank you Surprise
tawny stirrup
I think WWO team can add a systom for sell items
verbal pasture
Feedback:
Can you make the background filter in preview random, more random? Now it keeps showing only a few of them, but I’d like to combine some sometimes, and now it’s not possible :c same goes for the masks, that’s not random either 
(Random = all items)
tawny stirrup
And next time the role of classic i have a feedback.
Seer
Aura seer
Detective
Jailer
Bodyguard
Doctor
Gunner
Priest
Medium
Headhunter and fool
Avenger
Werewolf
Wolf seer
Kitten wolf
Junior werewolf
Arsonist and bomber
normal wyvern
I don't think kitten werewolf would be good in a Quick Game because it is quitely new
And has still a lot of problems
craggy dagger
My biggest problem with kitten werewolf is it’s existence
runic dragon
I keep feeling like everytime both Kitten + Wolf Seer is in one match, I see it as I L L E G A L
brave folio
@mellow needle Hi ya, but it's really not needed. And the announcement can't help you connection right 😅
@verbal pasture There would be a reason for that when just masks and backgrounds catalogues don't get all items. Thanks for feedback anyways. I will check about it
fading kiln
The report system needs to get changed. The people who get banned should omly be the people who gamethrow/shoot randomly without thinking/racist/hate speech.
People who just makr a mistake shouldnt get banned, if gunner shot someone aftr asking a lot of time because they didnt claim, it isnt the gun's fault. I really dont like it when people are like yelling at people to report someone just because they made a mistake, but they didnt do that on purpose.
This is a gamr for ppl to have fun, not to ban ppl because of a mistake that they did
brave folio
@tawny stirrup Hi ya, about the feedback to add a system for selling items doesn't seem viable to post. The game should be the only unit to sell, if you wanna buy something, get from shop
Also the role feedback, as Duden said, kww isn't really good for Quick Game. It's still in Sandbox and need to be tested and fixed with some problems.
Thanks for suggesting anyways
static walrus
Precisely, also one thing about the character roll thing concerns me, if there is 7% of all roles, how is this possible?
Also have you guys casted a curse on me and shaman?
craggy dagger
Yes I’m sure 120 games as wolf and being shaman in 50 of them is a statistical impossibility
Variance exists. People sometimes get wolf 4-5 times in a row
It just means you got unlucky
static walrus
God I just Knew I was cursed
craggy dagger
Now if you played 1000 games and about 27-30% of the time you were ww shaman, thats cause for concern about the RNG
static walrus
But there should be something that balances out those differences, like. It decreases the chance of playing shaman because of the massive amount of play time on shaman already
Imo atleast
brave folio
@runic dragon I consider that there is always a wolf seer in game, and kww is a random one. So how is it illegal?
@fading kiln The guardians wont ban someone if they just make a mistake. Also if the ban is really unfair, they can contact a guardian to be unbanned.
craggy dagger
As far as I know there isn’t a system that decreases class% based on getting it X times in a row
static walrus
Should be :(
brave folio
@static walrus it's really 7% for all roles, but it can't stay at balance. The fact that we still can get the same roles many times without using talismans
runic dragon
I mean, before Sandbox role rotation changed, Wolf Seer and Kitten never co-exist in the matches I played because of the power it can bring to the Werewolf's team
brave folio
Ye, but I dont see any reason to say illegal. Kitten wolf is a random wolf, and wolf seer is a permanent wolf. Why they cant be stayed in one match together.
runic dragon
Well, it only applies now. Because people now finally see Wolf Seer as a permanent wolf. Even though that was not the case before. Kitten would always replace Wolf Seer and vice versa, and not co-existing. Maybe that could come back? Because if there are games with both in it, that could power the Werewolves up a lot
fading kiln
@brave folio well, you have never been banned before, so you wouldnt know. A lot of people dont gamethrow, they only make mistakes, but they still get banned.
When u try to talk to the guardians, they will see the mistake that you have done, and they will say that you have broken the rule instead of just a making a mistake.
It wouldnt be good if u make a mistake -> you get banned
Everyone can make mistakes
brave folio
@runic dragon People sometimes complain why the wws team is so weak. So i dont think putting wws and kww in one match is really bad. Thanks for the feedback anyways 
runic dragon
Eh, fair enough 
brave folio
@fading kiln Sometimes I will do mistakes too.But why I still haven't been banned? People shouldn't report someone just because they make a mistake. Everyone always say that it's very hard to get enough reports. So i dont think it's easy to get enough reports if you just do a mistake too.
And the guardians always read the chat logs before banning someone. There is no strong reason for me to post it. Thanks for your feedback anyways.
rich fiber
brave folio
@rich fiber You can report them in game by clicking on their username -> Report. And next time please use #questions for asking
fading kiln
@brave folio u didnt get banned cuz ur a helper or mentor -_- why would a gusrdian ban you
brave folio
The fact that if i do something against the rules, i will still get banned
fading kiln
But ppl who made a mistake shouldnt get banned, they didnt do it on purpose
brave folio
But how they can know if it's a mistake or not when some people can base on mistake to do teaming up 👀
fading kiln
Yes the guardian have chat log, but if you try to explain something, they would never believe u -_-
Sighs
brave folio
They believe on what they can see in the chat logs, and decide. They wont be guardians without any reason.
rancid ibex
Hey can we get a village nerf or ww buff because playing as a ww is almost impossible to win if they get lucky they can kill 2 wolves its basically game over
fading kiln
Why would ppl even want to gamethrow in rank... if they throw then they cant win the game..
U should made an acc without exposing it to others, then play for a while in ranked, see will u get banned or not for a mistake that uve made 😤😤
brave folio
@rancid ibex ye, this thing has been suggested many times, but we need time to decide how can we make a nerf or buff. Thanks for suggesting as well
rancid ibex
You're welcome ive been trying to think on this as well if i have an idea i will come to you guys about it just tired of not being able to lie my way into winning. But completely off topic one time as a ww i died and the medium didnt realise i was a ww and the whole time was killing the villiage off
brave folio
@fading kiln I have played ranked games for a long time before being a mentor and then a trial helper. Please dont think that if we are staffs, we wont get banned. And the fact that people still gamethrow in ranked mode.
fading kiln
Which staff get banned beforr?
But seriois players who actually try to get to thr top in the lb wouldnt gamethrow
brave folio
@rancid ibex Tysmm If you have any idea, just post it here ^^
brave folio
But there aren't all serious players in ranked mode. Staffs haven't been banned because we never do against the rules -> That's why we can be staffs ✌️
glacial warren
@fading kiln lol that's not right.
fading kiln
No, if u make a mistake as a staff u wouldnt get banned. If u make a mistake as a serious ranked player ull get banned -_-
Sighs
Hi sharon
U got me banned for winning as arso ty
glacial warren
I added this Emote because it isn't true. Staff can also get banned if they misbehave. We are players like everyone else and follow rules. Maybe we don't get banned because we behave? If a staff member would gamethrow, how should we tell users here to follow rules?
If we break rules it also breaks the image of the staff team itself.
fading kiln
But serious players also dont gamethriw
mighty birch
If you get banned as staff member they probably would look at what your position is here and.... in my time I would probably give them trial 🤷🏻♀️
fading kiln
I've seen ioannis shot doctor and he didmt get banned
Sighs
Whats the purpose of banning a person who had made a mistake -_-
glacial warren
@fading kiln ioannis isn't guardian anymore. You can always dm a guardian if you think a ban is not justified. They will tell you why you are banned.
If you think a guardian is abusing power, contact Kem as guardian manager.
If you think kem is power abusing contact Philipp.
All of this of course with evidence.
What's the reason of banning someone doing a mistake? Maybe to make sure you follow rules. Again: contact a guardian.
Stop.
fading kiln
Stop what?
fading kiln
🤣 ok
novel basin
I think it is better if zombie get lesser XP when it wins cause zombie is too op, zombie also shouldn't be in ranked games
And the villages should get more XP or points for killing a bad role and get lesser for killing a good role
brave folio
@novel basin hi ya, thanks for suggesting. About the feedback for ranked points, it has been suggested through Google Form 
Our devs will think about them ^^
And the zombie is already not in ranked games 👀 also many ideas to nerf zombieb have been posted in #feedback-devs. Winning as zombie takes time and not really easy at all. So i dont think decreasing the xp getting from zombie win is good 
novel basin
Oh okay
It been a while since last time I play ranked so idk about it just appeared in my head
novel basin
Wait what about my second idea?
About XP or points
lethal storm
If a player wants to commite suicide in game, they should not die before the end of the day / night
Thus, people can't suicide in purpose to reveal their role (which can be used as a strategy)
If you suicide, you get disconnected from the game but the other players don't know it, until the day (or the night) ends.
Other possibility: everyone know that you commited suicide, but your role isn't shown before the end of the day (or night)
thick bolt
Idea about ranked. Platinum was a great idea. Change it a bit. Platinum should be top 600 or top 500. It would be only English. Why this? In order to get best players compete with best players.
Pros:
1)Best players will not have to "carry" new players without many experience.
2)New players will not have to face toxic players with high skill raging all the time.
3)Top players will have to outplay top players to climb to top 100 or even top 10. No in other language servers is much easier to win and get skill that the English server.
Cons:
1)Some people may not speak English good enough. It's both bad for the game quality and for people form other servers.
2)Some more waiting time for Platinum League games. But I think it won't be longer than 30 seconds
sorry for my poor English
brave folio
@novel basin Your second idea was answered in my first line 👀 it has been suggested through Google Form
@lethal storm Good suggestion ❤️ I will add it to #feedback-devs Thanks for your time
@thick bolt As you said, not many players can speak English, that why we have many different servers. So this suggestion doesnt seem viable to post. Also, top 600 or 500 is pretty hight, we will need to wait for a long time until the game get enough players to start ^^
Anyways thanks for your suggesting 
lethal storm
thank you very much @brave folio ! 
brave folio
That too ^^ Thanks anyways
languid cape
Change the league system so we get matched with people who have similiar sp with us so if we have 3k sp we will get matched with 2k-4k if there arent enough players this range can go up and down. Also, the “league” will consist of that range, so the minimum that the matchmaker got will be your league and the roles will be determined that way.
Its really sad seeing top 100 players getting matched with new players who just have 2.5-3k sp
brave folio
@languid cape Same above ✌️ It has already suggested through Google Form. Our devs will think about it. Thanks for suggesting as well
languid cape
Its not the same above its entirety different
brave folio
Because our devs already know about it when they read the Google Form answers
It's not needed to post again
runic dragon
I think it would be better if people get earlier a ban by suicide. For example in sand box. Every game 6 players comitten suicide, and they can do it 16 times without a ban every day.
brave folio
@runic dragon Suiciding twice in 3 hours already leads to a ban ✌️
brave folio
@runic dragon Suiciding leads to ban is already written in rules. Just a bit changes like decreasing the amount of suicides to be banned. Players should know that suiciding is not allowed and keep that in mind.
runic dragon
And why exactly it's changed?
In the rules it says you will get a ban after 5 suicide (within 6 hours)
Now the players thinks they can more often suicide
More players suicide
So it would be better if you change it into twice suicide within 3 hours
mystic crypt
Hello
brave folio
@runic dragon Oops im wrong, we fixed the rules a few weeks ago 👀 So that's the rules written in game right now
runic dragon
???
brave folio
The right thing is written in game 😅 I will ask my team about your suggestion. Thanks anyways
runic dragon
Okay
brave folio
@mystic crypt Do you have any feedback for us? if not, please move to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic for off topic ^^
zenith kayak
About the most recent #feedback-devs entry, the first idea is much more ideal ^^ people also suicide to avoid headhunter winning. I'd imagine while they disconnected, they'd still be lynchable right?
brave folio
@zenith kayak I think so 👀 As we can lynch off players
zenith kayak
Well yeah the second option would still allow "ethical" suicide to stop headhunter victory, it's unsatisfying if you work to get your target killed then they suicided 😔
runic dragon
though, if you’re still shown like you’re online, don’t you become even more suspicious? like people ask your role but you went off so you can’t answer nor defend yourself
zenith kayak
That would be a price of suiciding
brave folio
@zenith kayak I think if the target died because of being lynched before suciding at the end of the day, hh will still get wining
zenith kayak
Exactly ^^
brave folio
@runic dragon Yup, as Masha said, that should be a price of suiciding. Also if you decide to sucide, you certainly will die. That's the same result 👀
runic dragon
icic
zenith kayak
With the first option of what @lethal storm suggested, it solves more than the second option ^^
languid cape
Orrr make us unable to suicide like RGTube’s idea, clicking on the “x” will send you to the main menu and you will suicide automatically if you dont come back within 3 days + you wont be able to join new games until you “suicided” in the existing game
lethal storm
@zenith kayak I just suggested 2 versions in case the devs didn't like the 1st one ^^
austere relic
Make this reportable
brave folio
@austere relic I remember it has been posted before But i cant find it. So i will repost, thanks ^^
lethal storm
Xp farms are allowed, aren't they?
brave folio
I think he talked about the room named 18+... in Thai
lethal storm
Oooh mb.
Sorry
runic dragon
analog flare
I need to report a serious gamethrowing problem. Who can I write to?
It's pretty urgent
brave folio
@analog flare You can read #ingame-reports-archieved and contact a guardian listed there to report ^^
astral fiber
I really hope this gets seen and people agree with me.
Competitive CAN'T be played with less than 15/16 players. If a player leaves during countdown, even at 1, the countdown should cancel. I just played a game with only 12 players, by end of day 1, all good players were revealed and bad guys had no chance.
Please make this change.
fading kiln
Or top 1800 platinum
Can that be posted plsss
It's better to wait than to play with new ppl who will spoil the game
quaint bramble
@astral fiber heya we already have feedbacks to help with this, check out
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/671465542070173779
@fading kiln This would require pretty big changes, since currently the leagues are seperated by amount of sp, not ranks
We cant really post suggestions like this at the moment, as Yumi said the devs are currenty trying to slowly make changes in ranked already
astral fiber
@quaint bramble maj this is something different. I'm saying in general. If there are 16 players, and during the countdown, the game should stop.
Enough people clicking "vote to start" and having a not filled lobby is something different than 16 players in and after those 5 seconds only 14 people are in..
And during the countdown, people leave*
quaint bramble
@runic dragon hey please dont spam reaction emotes, if you have a feedback or reaction to this, type it out here.
warm pumice
the werewolf app is a very interesting entertainment app for its performance, ok guys?
vote I need to win the special item ♥
runic dragon
OK sorry by that
quaint bramble
@astral fiber This is already a thing though, but if the countdown has to stop multiple times, it eventually does start the game, it cant keep waiting forever...
And the players who leave during the last secs of countdown sometimes get counted as suicide bans so this should make people more careful already
astral fiber
Well tbh, it should wait. Playing with 14 players isn't fair or fun, especially in ranked. Just imo
quaint bramble
It's less fun but 14 is still managable ^^
astral fiber
Whatever
quaint bramble
The countdown stops multiple times, it already works like this
Blame the people who leave repeatedly during this time, or suggest something that helps with lobby hopping?
Im pretty sure we got a suggestion somewhere to give them a rejoin-cooldown for example
astral fiber
Oh ok. Well we should make something like this happen
quaint bramble
@astral fiber here's a post to vote about that too;
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/659927251105742860
astral fiber
Ok. Thanks:)
glad latch
Guys i screen shoot 2 person is teaming
But i cant contact anyone
And she threating me
Can someone help me
quaint bramble
@glad latch report them ingame first, always
and if they are serious threats you can send this to a guardian directly
runic dragon
quaint bramble
that is nothing to worry about, all reports are checked by staff so you wont get banned if you did nothing wrong
glad latch
Thx
neon kindle
The xp system for this game is broken imo just the other day I got 130xp for winning as couple and the other person got 210, cupid got 160. So I decided to make an xp system u can choose to use it if u want:
Win with villiage as an important role: 140xp
Win with villiage as unimportant role (e.g. pacifist): 100xp
Win with villiage as hh: 65xp
Win with villiage as cupid: 80xp
Win with wws: 180xp
Win with wws as a converted cursed or converted from kitten wolf: 150xp
Win as fool/hh: 200xp
Win as solo role except zombie: 210 xp
Win as zombie: 120xp
Win as sect leaders members: 120xp
Win as couple: 190xp
Cupid win with couple: 150xp
Tie: 50xp
ANY loss (except tie): 30xp
Tell me if I missed any out.
Pls vote thumbs up if u like it.
little ocean
Ah
chrome thunder
@neon kindle Thing is, if you make it so you get XP depending on the role, people will get frustrated because they'll win less xp although they did take part in the village win.
Although I do agree with headhunter winning less xp if he does it with the village
neon kindle
Yeah I though about the villiage win thing but there are always parts who are more important and life will always be unfair they will just have to get over it if it gets added in.
median elbow
@neon kindle are you including consecutive games? Like you get 15 additional xp for consecutive games plays
neon kindle
Yeah but that takes too long to write down
median elbow
There's a few xp bonuses involved
upper osprey
Keep in mind the xp system resets daily. And you start earning from 210 till you go down to 65. I personally agree with the guy's idea of fixing xp system
neon kindle
Thanks
upper osprey
The daily xp bonus applies to the first game only. Wither you win or lose. you get the bonus.
It doesnt work if you leave the match tho. It will reset
median elbow
^There's also first win on top of that
upper osprey
If you lose 2 times you dont get it ^
novel basin
Idk if this been suggested or not thought, but it is better to not allow rl to send rose when they are dead or show a message without rose animation when rl send role it will help bad roles have more chance to win
chrome thunder
@novel basin when you die the rose only shows up to the one you sent the rose to
And rose communication is something reportable I think
astral lotus
There should be an option to turn on chat messages for when you send a rose to someone so people who want it on can clearly see they've sent a rose back to someone. You can already tell with the rose history but adding it in the chat would be better imo.
forest rover
I don’t think it is necessary @astral lotus because (as you said) it’s really easy to check if you have sent the rose, and if you want to, (not sure at all but I think it happens) if you’re in a friend lobby and you send a rose to someone, you will receive a message. I don’t think it happens in the game, but still checking it is really easy so I don’t think it would be a necessary feature. Thank you for suggesting tho!
pulsar rain
We should be able to change the color of the character part of our icons. The reasoning is because people like lighter colors but the character disappears because it's a white outline
cosmic gazelle
You should add a feature where if your role is mentioned in the chat it is highlighted, maybe in a different color that the number
slender hinge
If VideoPandas idea doesnt work, then atleast when you change the colour to white, the character should be black.
chrome thunder
@pulsar rain That's a good idea, I'll check it
pulsar rain
Thank you
chrome thunder
Don't see it, I'll post it in devs, thanks for the feedback
pulsar rain
Yay
serene mountain
Remove the suicide button -_-
chrome thunder
@serene mountain Could you explain more?
serene mountain
Okay so, people that don't like their roles leave all the time and suicide and is very annoying, for example your a doc and you suicide WHOS GONNA PROTECT SEER NOW and noobs do that ALL the time we should remove the suicide button and only when you die you could leave the game... :P
Ik when you do it too many times you get banned but that doesnt stop idiots to leave
chrome thunder
It has been suggested, and the solution of just taking it out isn't a good one, but many other solutions to the problem have been suggested.
serene mountain
I know is not a good idea but is really annoying because it happeneds every game I am in -_-
next escarp
let the opposite gender items show up in the inventory & preview mode
or just preview mode
(the ones you dont own yet)
forest rover
@next escarp you mean in battle pass and daily rewards?
next escarp
& special offers
forest rover
You’re able to see the opposite gender items in special offers already I think, that’s why I’m asking @next escarp 🤔
forest rover
I see, going to add it. Thank you for suggesting @next escarp!
spare frigate
Hey could you make it so new players can understand the game a bit easier? Like what to do and stuff. I got 3 of my friends to try the game. Not one of the knew to read the chat. They also didn't know what to do as the role they were given. They all thought you just waited and hope you don't die. I also frequently see players that don't say or do anything, presumably because they don't know what to do. I'm not entirely sure how to make it more understandable, maybe make the tutorial better (if there is one).
somber ether
Hey staf
astral lotus
@forest rover to add on to what I was suggesting earlier, yes you can check the rose history to see if you've sent a rose, but it's not required to see that you've received one. It would be a nice QOL improvement for when you are trading many roses with multiple people at once not having to block your screen with the big rose history window. "# User has sent you a rose 🌹" followed by "You sent a rose 🌹 to # User" in the chat would make trading roses much easier since currently if you miss the rose animations you have to check the rose history to check the number sent and received to make sure you are repaying others the right amount but if you toggled this option on then you'd only need to look at chat and check if you've received any roses after the message saying you sent one. I know some people wouldn't like more spam so that is why I suggest this as a toggle in the options.
somber ether
@astral lotus
astral lotus
yes?
astral lotus
no I am not, look for users with Helper or Trial Helper role
glacial warren
@somber ether what do you need help with?
runic dragon
get 500 coin when you delete clan
opal sorrel
Can the sk have a good aura
Serial killer is still a villager, he is just crazy
Sk needs some sort of buff
runic dragon
can the old bp items show up as special offers occasionally so people can get them even if they didn’t participate in those bp?
analog flare
Actually the old offer skin of today is the same that 3 days ago.. The duck..
brave folio
@spare frigate There is already a tutorial for players to know how to play the game 👀 Thanks for the feedback, we will try to improve it ^^
@runic dragon When you use 500 gold to buy your clan, it will go into your clan's fund and you can use it to buy clan stuff. It's a fair exchange. Anyways thanks for your suggesting 
@opal sorrel It's impossible. SK is in different team with the village. If sk can be good with aura, it's OP. The village wont doubt him > that's a big missing.
@runic dragon The BP should be a special reward that you couldn't get it anymore if you dont participate. Even I dont get some BP seasons that I like very much, but i still dont want it to be available in the future. Anyways thanks for your time
@analog flare Hi ya, thanks for your feedback. I will check it ^^
runic dragon
icic, ty
median elbow
@opal sorrel solo roles must have a GOOD aura. Anything else causes issues and complications
chrome thunder
@runic dragon I don't think there's any staff with that name, but it's impersonating a staff position, that's reportable, so you should report it to a guardian! I'll put a list down here
?ban
median elbow
I feel like the Wolf Shaman should be able to enchant teammates. Yeah this sounds weird but hear me out. Let's say you shaman the Wolf Seer/JRWW and the real Seer (not aura/detective) sees them appear as Wolf Shaman. This little little change/buff creates a minor speculation like this; "X is shamaned or the shaman werewolf." This gives the shamaned werewolf an opportunity to defend themselves to make them appear innocent.
TL;DR : Allow the Wolf Shaman to enchant other werewolves to mislead the Seer.
brave folio
@median elbow Thanks for suggesting. But this feedback doesn't seem viable to post.
As you said, it sounds weird. Also with your minor speculation, ww team will still lose a ww if the village decide to kill.
Or if you talk about mislead the Seer, Seer can still check again to make sure. That would reveal the real ww as well
median elbow
This is used to mislead seers only
That's the main mechanic of enchanting a teammate
brave folio
If the Seer think he is Wolf Shaman -> The village kill him, then they know he was enchanted.
If the Seer think he is not Wolf Shaman but being enchanted -> Check again, the real ww reveals
median elbow
This mechanic is essential when a seer is in game, other informatives (like the aura and detective) makes this unnecessary
Who says they don't enchant the same wolf twice? That happens often. Shamaning the doctor 60+ times in a single a game
brave folio
Nothing is different. If they enchanted the same wolf twice -> The Seer think he is the real Wolf Shaman -> Lynch -> Not the real wolf shaman.
That can make the lynch goes to the next day, but i still dont see any point for me to post it.
Thanks anyways
median elbow
Delaying a lynch. Their is nothing wrong with that.
Hence this feature is reasonable
brave folio
I will think about it. Thanks for suggesting ✌️
median elbow
I might resuggest it later. It's liable and there is always a risk in doing any strategy 🤔
This is one of those strategies.
It's ineffective on auras and detectives however it can confuse seers, exclusively
Also what seer checks the same player twice?
craggy dagger
If it’s an actual game mechanic that shaman can shaman other wws, it doesn’t change the fact that the seer redchecked them
If I see someone as ww shaman and Im seer, Im pushing that person.
If they flip a non ww shaman ww? I would laugh because not only have they failed to prevent ww lynch by shamaning their fellow ww, they have also wasted a night where they could’ve shamaned a villager
This suggestion is simply nonsensical because it is always better to shaman a villager than a wolf
well, maybe not always but strictly better than shamaning a villager
still mist
Is being alerted someone you reported got banned a new feature?
Or has it always been there?
(Apologies if this isn't the channel I should ask a question like this under.)
opaque pollen
@still mist It was added a few months ago 👍 #questions
still mist
Hmm. Must have been right after... that incident. Otherwise I would have certainly got an alert for that dude.
(It sucks, when your playing a fun game... And then suddenly someone is writing child p*rnography in the chat...)
opaque pollen
@still mist If you have a report that serious please report it directly to a Guardian
runic dragon
still mist
Ooh, thank you.
I'll make sure to look into that next time.
That happened to me twice within six months 😭
Good to know there is an official more effective way of dealing with them. (I'm new to the discord, so I didn't know).
opaque pollen
#ingame-reports-archieved has more information on direct reporting too 👍
still mist
Thank you, you are very helpful 😌
tawny stirrup
And next time the role of classic i have a feedback.
Seer
Aura seer
Detective🕵️
Jailer
Bodyguard
Doctor
Gunner
Priest
Medium
Headhunter and fool
Avenger
Werewolf
Wolf seer
Kitten wolf
Junior werewolf
Arsonist and bomber
@runic dragon reply
normal wyvern
- When you want to see the votings in the voting gallery, you'll see random the outfits and not in an order. This could be annoying when you want to see the voting of the most voted outfit or the newest one. A sorting system in this category would be cool. Maybe like this:
Sort:
[] highest voting
[] lowest voting
[] most voted
[] less voted
- Nowhere is mentioned the new site for the voting gallery in the game. Maybe put this on the popup when you finished all votings or somewhere else.
normal wyvern
@tawny stirrup As I told you already yesterday: Kitten werewolf would be a problem for new player. Although it is quite new and has a lot of bugs still.
@runic dragon WW condition says if they are equal to the village (amount) and all solo killers/converter are dead, they will win
runic dragon
but if gunner & ww no game end
normal wyvern
This would be unfair for the werewolves
The werewolf condition was made to make it fairer for the werewolves and to prevent ties.
twilit shard
I need a feature to send items in the collection, can buy can send using coins or flowers to someone we want to send
brave folio
@tawny stirrup Hey, I already answered your feedback. Dont need to post it again
@normal wyvern Hi ya, I totally agree with your suggestion I will put it in #feedback-devs Thanks for your time 
@runic dragon as Duden said, that's ww win condition ^^ And it seems cant be changed. Thanks for your feedback anyways.
@twilit shard You already can gift gold to someone you want to send through shop. And you also can create a lobby to send roses 👀
twilit shard
@normal wyvern Hi ya, I totally agree with your suggestion :642073261823361024: I will put it in #feedback-devs Thanks for your time :9_BunnyLove:
@runic dragon as Duden said, that's ww win condition ^^ And it seems cant be changed. Thanks for your feedback anyways.
@twilit shard You already can gift gold to someone you want to send through shop. And you also can create a lobby to send roses 👀
@brave folio I wish I could send items using the coins we have without buying with real money
brave folio
@twilit shard I think something like that has already suggested and got rejected. Thanks for your feedback anyways
@normal wyvern I checked a bit, and we can see the outfits in an order. From highest voting and down. But it's still cool to make all in different categories to search. Thank you 
normal wyvern
Okay, thank you!
floral heath
I know this sounds like a weird suggestion but could we have a level locker in settings that we could turn on? Whenever it is turned on, any XP gained does not count towards level (it can count for other things like CQ/BP etc).
Like I don’t want my games played to be out on sync with my level if I’m constantly just playing custom.
runic dragon
Can it be fixed so pacis can not reveal right after voting? I’m talking about those who hold their reveal until the very last second, which allows them to both lynch a player and reveal (I’m not sure if it qualifies as #bugs-readonly), I just find it unfair and some players have been abusing this bug/function constantly.
brave folio
@floral heath From my point of view, lv means experience. When you play sandbox, you have experience about how to play there. The higher your lv is, the more experience you have. They go up together. So i dont think it's good to post. Thanks anyways
@runic dragonI think it should be a bug. Because basically, when paci used his ability, the voting should be stopped and no one can be lynched.
runic dragon
oh okay, i’ll hop into bugs then
floral heath
@brave folio it’s optional so you don’t have to turn it on and it would be for people who don’t want their level to go up disproportionate to their games played.
brave folio
@floral heath It's pretty weird, if you turn it on, you shouldn't get xp for anything
floral heath
People want to get XP for Clan Quests and Battle passes but as it also affects level, it’s common to see a player with like 500 games played and be at level 400 or something
brave folio
But it's normal and not hurt anything
floral heath
It’s not supposed to be normal to see players with those types of stats
brave folio
I dont think it's viable to post. Thanks anyways
cold idol
I didn't get watching ads anymore and don't get coin anymore
runic dragon
@cold idol you can try clearing cache ^^ and next time you can use #questions
echo gyro
Hi everyone. Love the game so far only problem is the lack of spellchecker. I'm terrible at spelling, and wish my keyboards spell check worked in game. Other then that 10 out of 10.
brave folio
@runic dragon that’s actually a feedback and please dont help here 😅
@echo gyro can you explain more? Why is it lack of spellchecker?
@young oriole that’s an known bug and has already been reported many times. Probably causes the kww can convert more than once
young oriole
It's because KWW converted RL... And rl visited a person who got converted to ww too then
brave folio
@young oriole Oh i think so too. Anyways it's known. Thanks for reporting ^^
young oriole
Yeah because she got a ww 🤔
echo gyro
@brave folio what I mean is that my keyboard auto correct/ spell check is disabled in game
brave folio
@echo gyro What's your device? I still can use autocorrect in the game
runic dragon
sorry for commenting, but i can't either
echo gyro
@brave folio really? Huh I'm using an LG g6
brave folio
@echo gyro oh i remember it wrong. I will ask my team about it. Thanks for your feedback as well
rancid ibex
Hey i know a way to make werewolves even with village take away all the seers they have 3 only 2 need to find a ww after that gunman kills 1 town kills other than next round 2 of 3 need to find the next ww than games over because gunman kills ww town kills the next ww lose than bomb is easy
Btw idk how many ranked has because im just getting ww which is a instant lost it makes me want to throw tbh because i already know im going to get caught unless we kill a seer one round and neither seer catches us than we get lucky find doc than finish the seers than finish the town but if we lose all but 2 ww we're dead
next escarp
be able to buy more clan member slots with gold the members donate
ripe stirrup
i had seen the feedback of 'make that everyone except one are required to skip discussion time'.
if you do this, change illu and make him able to kill at voting time too. if not, it would be quite unfair
brave folio
@rancid ibex What is your feedback? Sorry i dont understand what you mean 👀
@next escarp I think it should have been suggested before but i cant find any post about it. I will add your suggestion to #feedback-devs ^^ Thanks for suggesting
@ripe stirrup Thanks for your feedback, I think it hasnt been added yet
next escarp
❤️
bleak heart
I would like to sugest some way to claim itens from the oldest battle pass. Can be an offer, buying by roses or even gold. But sometimes we want a avatar that is from an old battle pass and we can't have they because we found this game late. =/ Sorry for my bad english.
mighty sapphire
What if bp had 150 items?
runic dragon
The BP should be a special reward that you couldn't get it anymore if you dont participate. Even I dont get some BP seasons that I like very much, but i still dont want it to be available in the future.
quoted from chee
rancid ibex
@brave folio there's to many seers on the villiage side in my oppinion there should be 1 seer as having multiple increases how fast they can find the ww. Right now theres 3 so thats 3 people giving out info obviously ww are gonna guess and try to kill a seer but if they pick wrong and doc protected them now ww are out a move. 3 more get guessed and till they find all ww so ww almost have no chance of surviving
runic dragon
so uh, think it’s a no
uncut tusk
@echo gyro Could you please tell me about this fix? 😊
dusty summit
Please translate the autotext (german: Textschnipsel) auto in Englisch, when the user plays sandbox mode
brave folio
@bleak heart It has already been suggested today and the same answer:
The BP should be a special reward that you couldn't get it anymore if you dont participate. It shouldnt be available to get anymore if it's already over.
bleak heart
i didn't see, sorry.
brave folio
@mighty sapphire Increasing BP items has been suggested many times. The devs haven't added more yet. Im not sure it can be changed in the next BP or not but maybe.
Anyways thanks for suggesting
@rancid ibex Usually the village just have 2 checking roles in a game. With only one protecting role like doctor, sometimes more - but it's still not very hard to kill checking roles. So it doesnt seem viable to post, you can suggest something to make ww team stronger instead ^^
@dusty summit I will ask a translator helper about. Thanks ^^
@bleak heart No worries ! Im glad you understand 
fallen rain
I thought it was a joke to change the skin offer at the last minute, since I’m going to buy the boxes, they have problems and you changed them before I could buy them… I am disgusted
I thought it was a joke to change the skin offer at the last minute, since I’m going to buy the boxes, they have problems and you changed them before I could buy them… I am disgusted
@echo aspen
echo aspen
Sorry that happend @fallen rain . It was pointed out to us that the offer was also active a few days ago, making it currently pointless to have again 🤷 the new offer was supposed to be a positive thing.
fallen rain
Okay then, is that my game has been showing some problems and I thought this was another possible problem, in a way I appreciate the assistance @echo aspen
hollow herald
nerf idea: if the is killed during the disscousion phase and someone is glithced the the glithced person will be able to speak and use their Abilities again and wont die at the end of the day
forest rover
@hollow herald if is killed during the discussion phase the corrupted player doesn’t die. However they are not able to speak that day. I don’t think it’s fair tho to let them use abilities and speak because they still are corrupted (but not killed because corruptor cannot being dead), thank you for suggesting tho!
hollow herald
👍 👍 👍
wet hollow
Add discord to main menu in game
runic dragon
Can you guys PLEASE do something about this. This has been an ongoing issue for a while now. The main problem with zombie isn't that its OP it's that people don't try. I enjoy games where people try to stop zombie. They're fun and entertaining. But what comes out of turning everyone into a zombie? The wws stand no chance. And it's just no fun. The only thing you get out of it is EXP and a win.
Stop helping players who only care about their win rate and help those who genuinely enjoy the game. All we need is a rule against not killing zombie is it that hard?
timber mauve
Drecksspiel
languid cape
If zombie was balanced like sect leader then it wouldnt be a problem, the problem is that zombie is op and people naturally pick the winning team + killing both wws and zombie is hard so why not just be a zombie
Even if you check zombie day 1 there is a 12/16 chance that the zombie bit another player. So lynching them would be near useless
Zombies belong in sandbox because sandbox is a game mode where you are supossed to test bugs and report them. The whole purpose of the game mode is that so dont expect it to be competitive or whatever hahah
forest rover
@wet hollow I exactly don't get what you mean but we have a link in the game to discord if you're talking about that 🤔
@runic dragon sorry for the problem but teaming with zombies is gamethrowing so you should report everyone that doesn't want to win as villager being villager. We already have the rule but players don't care about that. It is reportable so indeed report them.
exotic elbow
ember creek
Yeah also people don't tend to care about their dead teammates who were vital to them winning but will lose when they all happily jump on the zombie/sect train. A no vote random killing after 2 days should spice it up.
wet hollow
@forest rover Put a discord icon somewhere here
i didnt know there was a discord till i googled this
Also make a pc version would be fun
chrome thunder
@wet hollow The PC version has been suggested a lot, so thank you for the feedback.
The discord link is found on settings, so it isn't like there isn't one, it's just in the settings :)
chrome thunder
Normally they do go there for things like changing language and other stuff, I'll check if it has been suggested tho
wet hollow
ok
runic dragon
@Fury12001#4778 thank you
silver jetty
just wanna say that i really dislike the "monster" outfit thing since
- its way more expensive as normal outfits and in my oppinion a bit overpriced.
- its based on luck if you want to get the entire outfit since there will be more than this one
id preffer having it like a normal outfit or making it like the zodiacs for example.
Create either, for example, multiple fore- and backgrounds and gravestones give those to people together or give the people the entire outfit for perhaps a higher price if necessary.
||doesnt have to go into #feedback-devs, if u think it shdnt, i just want u to see and perhaps other people can agree too and give some more pros/cons||
quaint vortex
Heyo so like ik the reddit community is quite small and new but will there be a chance that you'll get social media rewards for posting and getting a certain amount of upvotes on a post like the way the other social media have rewards to motivate people to join the community as it currently around 300 members :/
rancid ibex
@brave folio well that must be ranked but in quick play which is the only way to unlock ranked its 3 seers just lost again because theres 3 seers we took 2 out but took us awhile that whole time the last one was checking all of us and found us so we couldnt win
fallen rock
Make a channel to count
stoic hemlock
Hi
rancid ibex
@brave folio and forgot to add they have beast hunter doc and witch thats 3 heals and whitch beast hunter and gunner are kill roles beast hunter is a defense kill role while gunner and witch are the roles that can end the game almost instantly if the seers are lucky
frozen ferry
Salty "players" reports random "stuff" and you ban people for no reason. Great work. Imma remove the game. Thank you.
runic dragon
quaint vortex
contact one of them
frozen ferry
Thank you
red drum
Hello. how can i win facebook products in the game
languid cape
#links @red drum ask in #questions next time
quaint vortex
hey this is for feedback so please chat and ask in the respected channels
arctic spindle
Hi to all Devs and people involved I have to question why is the word idiot stared out???
Like my feedback is unstar idiot like bruh it's not even offense if your older than 2y/o
fast marsh
But idiot is still an insult
arctic spindle
Yeah but it's not exactly an X rated insult is it? You still need some way to convince people and idiot is a commanding force in this
next escarp
have a catalog of all designs in game
fast wren
Make that the doctor can heal himself
And make the blasphemies censored pls there are too many people saying them, in all languages, mostly in my language (italian)
ripe stirrup
doc healing himself is bg but more broken
quaint bramble
@arctic spindle because the game tries to encourage a positive vibe, and insulting people for their mistakes isnt fun
@fast wren The doc is already a very strong protector role
and doc is there to support the village, not just to save themself...
report them for hate speech, the guardians will deal with that
just cause something isnt censored, doesnt mean we tolerate it
fresh cedar
It should be possible to highlight and copy text sent in clan, party, game etc so you can translate easier
outer flower
during the day the RL can mark the person who will visit and this will be shown to all players at the end of the voting time
slender hinge
If the elf ears from this bp are removed shouldnt the other elf ears (from offers) be removed too?
fresh cedar
Noo dont take away my cute ears
slender hinge
But they dont fit skin tones other than white
frozen ferry
@SionnY so a guy a bring shady in game. There were only 3 of us. I voted that guy. He told me I'll be banned for game throwing. Now I'm banned. Don't know who he was. Might have been a mod. If he was, then that's just misuse of power. And letting random people report you just cause they lost match is just petty on a whole different level. I'd curse, but I know I'm "not allowed to". Thank you.
languid cape
@frozen ferry You should message her, ban appeals are dealt in dms
quaint bramble
@outer flower That would be too op, it means nobody can fake red lady and the info is undisputable
@frozen ferry Please send a guardian a private message but watch your attitude, you dont get banned just cause people report you for dumb reasons. The reports get checked by staff first
If you think you were threatened by a staff member/guardian, you should contact Kem, the guardian manager with a screenshot
frozen ferry
How am I supposed to get the screenshot now? I just went to the lobby to start a new game
quaint bramble
@next escarp Heya this kinda thing is suggested a lot, in many different ways, so Im not going to repost it right now ^^
I believe there was also something similar in philipp's big #dev-vote
quaint bramble
Could be you had a lot of reports from other games that just happened too be reviewed around the same time
But contact a guardian and explain why you thought it was fair to vote that guy?
frozen ferry
Okay. Thank you again. 😊
quaint bramble
@slender hinge probably wont happen, people already paid for those outfits, and elf ears are nice...
I do hope that we get them for all skin colours eventually though ^^
quiet iron
This item should be in the mask category, not hair category
frozen ferry
Do the guardians play the game?
quaint bramble
@frozen ferry You should move to #questions next time ;)
And yes ofcourse all staff does play the game, when they have the time ^^
quaint bramble
@quiet iron Already been posted before, it was a while ago but perhaps it was denied back then.. I am not reposting it, since it does kinda count as hair, being a beard
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/617065805116342272
@frozen ferry Aw well thats your own choice, just know the guardians are nice people and a ban doesnt mean the end of the world, its something you can talk about ^^
quiet iron
Ok, thank you :)
frozen ferry
@quaint bramble aww, i not pissed because I'm banned, I'm pissed because of the reason given. I don't game throw. Whoever that guy was, misused his power.
I'm*
quaint bramble
Thats a pretty serious accusation though, please dont just be mad like that,, you can talk to them and try to resolve this... just ask them for the proof or something, or to explain a bit more what rule they think you broke
They are human too, perhaps it was a mistake and the ban can get shortened
grizzled steppe
Hi
frozen ferry
If I was banned because I cursed, I would have taken it. I did, almost everyone in every game does. I know it not, right. So, I would have taken it, waited for 2 days and start playing again afterwards
Anyway. I gotta go. Thank you @quaint bramble
grizzled steppe
Someone got the money you can ban him
quaint bramble
@grizzled steppe heya Im not sure what you mean?
grizzled steppe
A friend got ban on the game
quaint bramble
if he doesnt agree with the ban reason or wants to know more info, he can message a guardian
he does have to do this himself though on discord..
runic dragon
wanton prism
@craggy hound erm actually wolves are able to kill zombies
storm gale
Will guys ever look at role ideas and put it into vote..? And fix grammar..
craggy hound
Then why tf are all the zombies we attack when Im ww immune?
fresh cedar
Since hh has two win conditions, the fool should too.
brave folio
@craggy hound Ww can kill zombie, but zombie cant bite ww
@storm gale Of course we will look at role idea and put it into vote if it's good enough. And you talked about grammar of role idea or gramma of role description in game?
brave folio
@fresh cedar Basically hh is different with fool. It's headhunter, so hh should be won if the target died.
fresh cedar
I know they’re different, but I’m not sure what you’re saying
brave folio
I mean it's different from the description. So since hh has two win conditions, it doesnt mean that the fool should too
And i dont see any point to make the fool have 2 win conditions
fresh cedar
Because they’re both in the category of random voter, so they should have equal chance of winning
runic dragon
oh and, i think those profanity filters for swear words in different languages should only be implemented in those specific language channels
like we can’t even say competition in the english server (||titi|| is censored as it’s a swear word in another language) but hardly anyone use that swear word intentionally in english because we don’t even understand it’s context!
median elbow
Custom role settings if the said role is active:
Priest
- Can water at night only
- Can only water during first discussion
- Can water night 1
- Cannot water
Witch
- Can kill night 1
- Can kill during the day
- Cannot kill
- Cannot protect
Doctor/Bg/Tg
- Cannot protect night 1
- Cannot protect
Mayor
- Can reveal
- Cannot reveal
Gunner
- Can shoot night 1
- Can shoot during first discussion
- Has X bullets
Medium
- Can revive wolf
- Can revive X times
Etc. This would be available for all roles. They can be simple or complex settings. "Can use ability at night." "Cannot use ability." "Can use ability during first discussion phase."
These are simple toggles for each and every role that minorly alters it's active state for that game only.
runic dragon
Tbh I think this would be to confusing for people just trying to join the lobby
Way to much to remember
brave folio
@runic dragon that’s actually how it works 😅 I have asked about it before. But seems like can be changed. Thanks for suggesting anyways
runic dragon
ooh? it does now? okay ty chee
brave folio
@median elbow im sure if it’s possible or not
As Knight said, it would make players confused. When there are too many changes the host can choose
And basically it changes the roles too
Thanks for your suggestion anyways
median elbow
Game parameters can be posted in chat. If it's possible or not shouldn't be relevant
@brave folio
brave folio
That way is a bit annoying when players need to remember
inland shadow
this isnt about the game itself but more as a warning: is it possible for users to be told not to joke about the corona virus outbreak? this seems like a long shot, but 4 out of 5 games I play, someone jokes about it, saying "4 you have corona" "dont touch 4" .. i live in HK myself and its a real scare, I know that people are jerks sometimes and theres nothing we can truly do to prevent that, but idk, I was hoping... just maybe there could be a warning? Or can I report that and write it off as racism?
fast wren
@inland shadow think that I’m italian, and in some lobbies i found someone called: “CORONAVIRUs” or “coronavirus”
inland shadow
😔
fast wren
@inland shadow ididn’t understand what HK was, then I realized... I’m sorry 😐
runic dragon
agreed, i met several people who has the name coronavirus or joked about coronavirus a lot, they can make people quite uncomfortable
clever spade
Simple suggestion:
Dû au fort nombre de joueurs "anti jeux" faire un système qui par exemple quand on le bloque on voit son speudo en rouge ou avec une indication comme un marqueur. Cela nous permettrait de savoir directement quand on lance une partie si nous nous trouvons avec des joueurs que nous avons déjà croisé et dont nous avons signaler son comportement. Ainsi des le début de game on pourra se méfier directement de la personne. Bien entendu se marqueur sur la personne n'est visiblement que par la persobne l'ayant bloqué ou signaler. Si vous avez des questions par rapport à ma suggestion vous pouvez me mentionner.
runic dragon
english please 
brave folio
@inland shadow You can report them as hate speech
@clever spade Please English here
clever spade
Okay
Simple suggestion: Due to the large number of "anti games" players, make a system which for example when you block it you can see its speudo in red or with an indication like a marker. This would allow us to know directly when we start a game if we are with players that we have already encountered and whose behavior we have reported. So from the start of the game we can be wary of the person. Of course, marking oneself on the person is visibly only by the person who blocked or reported them. If you have any questions regarding my suggestion you can mention me. voteyes
"Sorry don't speak english, thank google translate 😂 "
glacial warren
@clever spade hey! ^^ the indicator for players you blocked, has already been suggested. The idea was a muted icon. I posted it in #feedback-devs on the first may last year and it was suggested by Maje.
It has been posted in #feedback-devs a while ago as you can see and I think a repost doesn't hurt in this case! ( https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/573148715943198720)
Here are two alternative suggestions:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651549565693984808
This one is about blocking players and not being able to see them in any game anymore 😊 as example, you block me and we won't see each other in game anymore
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/620217372435021835
This is an idea, that someone you blocked doesn't see your username or anything anymore, but a random one 🤔
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I will post it in #feedback-devs as soon as possible
clever spade
Thank for you replay
twilit shard
I think there must be an automatic translation for chat in the game, where each country server has automatic translation detection for its own language.
because there are still many who can not speak at all about the language of other countries
vague urchin
So I have playtested a little bit in sandbox for roles.
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not having Gunner makes the village a whole bit weaker, because you do not have a guy that shoots during the day and gets protected during nighttime. Marksman is quite weak as a role because it takes one turn to Target then another turn to shoot and it kills itself if Target is villager.
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corruptor is wayyy to op, like really the fact that you have no info on the death of someone creates this black hole of info that even the best players will have a hard time with. Because how do you know the person died is a ww/villager/fool or hh?
3)having seer I find bad for the game detective is more healthy for the gameplay because it creates a more even field for ww and solo roles. Replacing aura with spirit seer is a straight nerf because 1) as is bugged 2) pretending as as is easier than pretending aura 3) you have only one info role that if dead you are left with as that if played well can maybe shift the ties but is quite hard to make good use of.
4)Cupid is a good thing to have in the game, it creates quite a bit of variation, only issue is that you have no power on the choice of the charmed one, and if Cupid is with village Cupid can just reveal targets and force them to cope with it or get killed. So it may be exploitable.
- cannibal actually is sk but better I guess, because you can eveade the prying eyes of ss/sheriff, but often times you are just an sk that can choose not to kill.
6)zombie have not seen enough of to have a proper opinion (literally 1 zombie game where Cupid enchants 5&6 and 5 helps 6 to get voted as fool and win game).
7)having the random voting role for fool/hh is a good idea that creates more susoencr and I think in ranked it can help those roles have more agency.
8)too many roles revealed makes the life of wolves really hard. I have not seen a ww win even once in sandbox as to now.
9)bomber have played once against but didn't it felt like an arso to me with slight variation.
- also in sandbox it feels like quick game with every game wfilled with suicides, quite annoying if you see your med just suicide day one as village or 2 wolves afk and suicided so you have nothing to do as ww. And just accept your fate
brave folio
@twilit shard They should just join the server of the language they know. Or join English instead
twilit shard
it's likely someone 13 years or older still doesn't understand English
woeful mesa
Hello.
Fortune teller should really get nerfed. Right now, once the cards are given either you reveal or you're lynched. The problem is that if this is a villager, no problem it's one less person to check ! and if it's a bad one then he will get lynched for sure since he won't reveal.
There's no way to stop this actually, and it's really annoying. I know there have been some feedbacks about making it usable night 2 and after only, but it doesn't really change things. Starting from day 2 it will be the same, 2 cards given and reveal or die.
There are multiple ways to nerf :
-only 1 card can be given (so 1 card instead of 2 for the whole game).
-only 1 card can be given per night
-only 1 card can be used per day
-fortune teller doesn't know who have the cards
-fortune teller can't reveal who have the cards (hard to put in place, lots of gamethrow incoming if put in game)
I'm sure there are other ways, can't really think about it right now, but I hope that some ways will be chosen so that it's more fair.
brave folio
@vague urchin Hi ya, thanks for your feedback.
Sandbox is like a place to play new roles that are not really complete. We are still working to make them better.
But about the 8th feedback, it's not really correct at all. I usually win when I get ww role in sandbox. There are many different teams in this mode, so it's easy to lie too.
Anyways thanks for your time 
If you have any suggestion for us, feel free to write it here ^^
@twilit shard Making an automatic translation is hard, also it cant be correct everytime. And each country will have many slang words... It sounds impossible 😅 Anyways thanks for your time
@woeful mesa Thanks for your suggestion, I will add it to #feedback-devs 
But the fortune teller can choose who receive the cards, so i dont think it's good to post the suggestion about fortune teller doesnt know who have the cards
plush mural
I'm not a fan of the snippets to be honest. In platin league people start to abuse them. Over the past few days I had this situation about 20 times :
Number X claims doc and is doubted.
Random Confirmed villager saying : "send snippet or we vote u"
I mean... creating snippets was a nice idea for the gadget, but people find ways to abuse everything.
I think they should be removed again, one should be able to expect from players to be able to type.
brave folio
@plush mural you can make a fake snippet
plush mural
But why force people into preparation against abusing? Should every player to be safe create or know the snippets of several roles now?
brave folio
@plush mural 😅 People shouldn't force others to send snippets. But you can use a fake snippet to lie them as well... It's same as forcing to make a role call, you can lie your role to be safe. That's also a tip to play
plush mural
Yeah I know I could fake it.
Well nvm then. But I propose to consider at least making snippets abuse as a reportable reason. Unless I'm the only one who kinda does not go along with snippets.
runic dragon
adding to the last feedback-devs, it is also possible to nerf ft by only revealing the aura?
swift mango
brave folio
@runic dragon It's too much. Ft seems like useless
@swift mango read #ingame-reports-archieved and contact one of the guardians listed there
night drift
Is the server down?Why can't I play?
slender hinge
Hh shouldnt win if his target is his couple imo, its gamethrowing anyway
brave folio
@night drift The server is still working
slender hinge
brave folio
@slender hinge If hh get coupled by cupid, it means he has new win condition. Then the game follows that condition. It's not gamethrowing
@night drift that's bug
slender hinge
Oh
brave folio
That's an known bug and has already been posted in #bugs-devs ^^
slender hinge
But he votes out his target (who is his couple), and couple team has priority right?
brave folio
If he votes his target (also his couple), it's gamethrowing
slender hinge
Thats what i said
slender hinge
Ah then i stay by my og feedback
brave folio
I will check it
hearty bloom
Am i the only one who cant open ww game?
Because the game loading too long
Oh i see the server still working my apologies
distant rain
suggestion: reveal stats after ranked game finishes
brave folio
@night drift Wait for the devs, they will fix it as soon as possible ^^
@hearty bloom You aren't the only one
@distant rain Stats of what?
floral quail
I think WWC should have coloured roles instead of the plain ones. I made a few coloured ones tho.
Credits to @exotic agate
exotic agate
I only made Drunk, Mason and Amulet on these icons Ashish sent
floral quail
(pls dont warn us) we want coloured versions so we want feedback about the icons above
brave folio
@exotic agate @floral quail Thanks both of you. I will post it as soon as possible
marble scaffold
maybe it should be fixed that for example bomber cant place their bomb on the lover, or arsonist isnt able to douse the partner. i was coupled with the bomber ^
exotic agate
@brave folio
My version of Lone Wolf
brave folio
@exotic agate If you have more, please dm me
exotic agate
Ok
brave folio
@marble scaffold It has already been suggested before. Thanks for suggesting as well
@haughty falcon Read #ingame-reports-archieved and contact of the guardians listed there
marble scaffold
@brave folio oh, i didnt knew that. thank you for replying ^^
haughty falcon
@brave foliook
floral quail
thx :)
runic dragon
Hoi lads
median elbow
1:
I feel like the Wolf Shaman should be able to enchant teammates. Let's say you shaman the Wolf Seer/JRWW and the real Seer (not aura/detective) sees them appear as Wolf Shaman. This little little change/buff creates a minor speculation like this; "X is shamaned or the shaman werewolf." This gives the shamaned werewolf an opportunity to defend themselves to make them appear innocent.
TL;DR : Allow the Wolf Shaman to enchant other werewolves to mislead the Seer.
2:
Custom role settings if the said role is active:
Priest
- Can water at night only
- Can only water during first discussion
- Can water night 1
- Cannot water
Witch
- Can kill night 1
- Can kill during the day
- Cannot kill
- Cannot protect
Doctor/Bg/Tg
- Cannot protect night 1
- Cannot protect
Mayor
- Can reveal
- Cannot reveal
Gunner
- Can shoot night 1
- Can shoot during first discussion
- Has X bullets
Medium
- Can revive wolf
- Can revive X times
Etc. This would be available for all roles. They can be simple or complex settings. "Can use ability at night." "Cannot use ability." "Can use ability during first discussion phase."
These are simple toggles for each and every role that minorly alters it's active state for that game only. A message will be sent at the start of the day to explain what is currently active.
astral spruce
Experience and Age outranks Everything in a Pack
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If other Werewolves get 3 votes against Alpha werewolf the vote of the Junior Werewolf/Regular Werewolf is not counted and a random target is choosen. If there was 1 Junior and 1 Regular voting different than Alpha it's automatically Alpha's target as well.
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Only works in games with a resigned wolf seer/kitten werewolf/custom games with no wolf seer.
Tbh in packs Elders are most trusted in wisdom
Tbh you cant say otherwise
A Pack's Leader&Elder should always be obeyed.
forest rover
@median elbow about the first one. It seems nice but I don’t think it’s necessary. Why would you waste a night shamaning a wolf when you’re able to shaman a villager?
- It seems really confusing + difficult to learn. How would players be able to know with which kind of witch they are playing? Also some has no sense. Why would you want to have a gunner shooting at night 1?
@astral spruce I get what you mean but I don’t get why you think it should be like that. Could you give any reasons, please?
astral spruce
CUZ
Pack
This is a Pack not a democracy
You just discuss & vote, Leader chooses for you.
coarse shadow
Balance les skin
median elbow
@forest rover it's custom games. Those are examples regardless
astral spruce
I wish Werewolf had legimate players like Town of Salem where Godfather doesn't go random or don't care a shit about his/her teammates and their opinions.
forest rover
Hmmm wolves are a group @astral spruce. Wolves need to be together to attack and kill, even if leader chooses that doesn’t mean other members want to do that, and random isn’t the best solution. Letting alpha to decide the vote makes every other werewolf vote useless. That’s not fair so I disagree, however thank you for suggesting
median elbow
@astral spruce make think of a 4 man team that replaces the wolves all together. Afterwards send it to #role-ideas-readonly
astral spruce
oh you just meant the Town of Salem Godfather
that role is a legimate player
he doesnt do random kills with no sense
listens to allies
takes them into account and care
thats forbid to suggest a tos role
median elbow
@forest rover and fir shamaning teammates this allows a wolf to claim they have been shamaned with viable proof to back it up
It hides the original role
astral spruce
Illu : am i a joke to you
Shaman Werewolf : am i a joke to you
both hides real roles
median elbow
It allows the wolf seer to claim something different and keeps them in the game longer
forest rover
@median elbow still village won’t trust that claim and it’s better to use the ability on a villager. I don’t think it would help too much werewolf team.
runic dragon
Like i only mean here for the gamese
astral spruce
the most good one to claim is
Junior Werewolf
claim falsely, get enchanted
get doc hanged
avenge seer
gg wp
ez game
median elbow
It can be strategic when preformed correctly that's why I think it's a mutual nerf/buff
astral spruce
This isn't fair
median elbow
It's relies in the seer but if there's an aura/detective in game then it's proper and strategic
forest rover
@runic dragon because we have not enough players to make a game language of those. However we still have the game translated to chinese and japanese. Devs will add more game languages when they see we have in game enough players for that.
astral spruce
@forest rover explain the logic of this bot now
what kind of suspicion he had
AI too low to think
median elbow
Also @forest rover is your average village the same as my village?
forest rover
He thinks that you’re spamming because you’re writting really quick @astral spruce, nothing else.
astral spruce
Bit of a ping.
Messages come later and they come too quickly like 1 per second
I should lose my line spam addiction
forest rover
@median elbow what do you mean with average village? In game? 🤔
astral spruce
this getting out of the channel's topic
Experienced Gameplay
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People in Silver+ can join a new game type "Experienced Quickplay/Sandbox" where they can play with their leaguemates. This would improve quick games with a lot suicides, gamethrows and etc.
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This gamemode is just a relaxing gamemode for ranked players, this doesn't get you matched with people below your league or above your league you can try out new tactics or just play normally as you do.
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This gamemode doesn't replace the quick game and sandbox.
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You don't gain or lose skill in this gamemode only XP as usual.
forest rover
@astral spruce it seems really nice but right now devs are not looking for new game modes(also there’s not enough ranked players to make it) thank you for suggesting tho!
median elbow
@forest rover do you play in quick play, ranked bronze/silver or gold/platinum, custom, sandbox
astral spruce
If you fall in Bronze just once
there's no way back out there
for 2 weeks at least
many gamethrows, suicides and offlines
forest rover
Gold/Platinum ranked while alone, sandbox if I’m going to play with friends. I’m not playing these days tho. I don’t think how it should change my opinion or give more credit to it tho and it’s getting #wov-chat tbh @median elbow
runic dragon
How about when tg get attacked by solo killer but he survive and the role of solo won't be revealed
Instead of getting tg dying twice
median elbow
@forest rover then you don't encounter the seer often
The shaman wolf can cause confusion and save a wolf
hot valley
Make these standard: In screenshot both are expanded do they should be pointing the same way but they dont
forest rover
@runic dragon I don’t get what you mean with tg dying twice but tg’s ability is to see the attacker so it doesn’t make sense to remove it tbh
@median elbow I think I wasn’t the only helper that already said that it doesn’t seem really useful because doing it on a villager is 100 times better. Sorry if you disagree but I don’t think it’s a good idea. Thank you for suggesting it tho!
@hot valley you’re right so I’m going to add it. Thank you for suggesting! ❤️
hot valley
Yw ❤️
runic dragon
What i mean he's wounded and corrupted like dying twice also he won't be useful if he knew corrupter no and he's already corrupted
median elbow
I agree on a villager is better but it can be reworked into a strategy. For example "seer check me" this player shows shaman werewolf
runic dragon
Also guys zombie role is bugged i bitten 2 persons in 1st night
U better check that out
forest rover
Well med is there to tell that info and that’s intended @runic dragon still thank you for suggesting!
runic dragon
Sure
forest rover
Also probably about that zomb bug a red lady would have visited the player you wanted to bite so red lady got bitten too. It’s not a bug @runic dragon
runic dragon
Ohh
Damn it
Yes true
Thx
Ok here's thing
How about making at least announcement window when u open the game so u will be able to see what's changes have been made
forest rover
It has been already suggested recently (so I don’t think it needs a repost) however thank you for suggesting @runic dragon