If ranked keeps being handled this way, it'll only keep getting worse, and worse. Please pay attention to what experienced ranked players say, because newcomers can always play quick game, but ranked should suit that "serious players" label.
#feedback-readonly
runic dragon
I've been told ranked players who are demanding ranked mode to be improved are getting labeled as "people who believe they are better than other players". It's not about being cocky, or rude, or think one is a better player because a silly winrate indicates so. It's about playing the game as it's supposed to, it's about improving the game experience for ranked players. Ranked mode is a completely different game.
ornate beacon
Hi, would like to draw some attention to an UI adjustment for Samsung Galaxy S10, since the in game buttons at the bottom row are not able to be pressed unless the top pixel gets it. This is due to the infinite screen that has the bottom as regular buttons and cannot react to game ops. A slight padding of around 20px shall do the magic, thanks.
sacred sable
Mmmmm
Lowkey there is a lot of elitism being suggested on tbis channel and in ranked, js.
And they might not say it out loud, but they definitely think it.
runic dragon
It's not about elitism, again
Name a single point of what I'm stating as elitism.
I'm trying to improve game experience for ranked players.
I am ranked player
languid cape
Exactly.
dreamy burrow
Ranked players trying to improve their game mode is elitism?
They're not saying anything about sb or qg
languid cape
We are trying to improve our own game experience. How is that being selfish or elite?
dreamy burrow
U can do what u want
runic dragon
I started playing ranked like 8 months ago maybe. Every season is worse and worse, I can tell. Game experience used to be fun and challenging. Now is only stressful and we need to hop lobbies every single time. Gamethrowers are everywhere. Beginners can play ranked with experienced players because the matching system says so, and we all know this is a game where you need to understand some basics in order to play properly. All players should be able to complete a survey with simulated scenarios to see if they are actually ready for ranked.
I know tons of top players who decided to stop playing in fool games in ranked because village just messes up every single time.
6 months ago fool winning in ranked was an unicorn.
sacred sable
"Let's separate the low skill points in gold from us"
runic dragon
You're not understanding the point, Kit
The skill point system is futile
It means anything
Nothing, I'd say
It means nothing
dreamy burrow
Its just that we dont want gunners shooting revived detectives
Wws attacking bg they jist checked the same night
2 wws suiciding in my face d1 cuz i said dont go doc
Me dying n1 9 times out of 10 🤷♂️
runic dragon
You want to be "inclusive" but when you want to play ranked there is a disclaimer, a warning message "This is ranked, this is serious, bla bla bla"
dreamy burrow
And then sandboxers come unvoting on suggestions to improve ranked specifically 🤷♂️
runic dragon
If that message is supposed to help game experience why you automatically refute all our suggestions?
languid cape
Jailer jail killing gunner because they dont understand why a gunner should claim for jail. How do they even even reach gold league without knowing this?
The league requirements are ridiculous, its just so easy to get in “gold league”
naive mica
Jfjfj
runic dragon
It's not cool to ignore all proposals and just say "you are elitists" instead of arguing with criteria, with facts and reason. We are stating an issue with ranked mode and we are explaining ourselves.
ebon knot
@languid cape an account,or a device can be played by different ppl
glacial warren
Suggestions for this? ^^ this is not #complain tho
languid cape
Lol
glacial warren
And no. There won't be own rules for ranked.
runic dragon
That's a very well detailed explanation.
"No, just because no".
What's the reason for a ranked mode then?
glacial warren
@runic dragon what do you mean?
ebon knot
Feedback zone always have a scent of gunpowder as the ranked rule craps caused so many arguments.Its frightening to stay here for long
glacial warren
You are not forced to be here 
runic dragon
Forced?
sacred sable
Tbh Hyde
Ranked has some of its own special rules
runic dragon
I'm a player who enjoys the game and wants to contribute
sacred sable
They're clearly not stated in the game's rules
But they still exist
runic dragon
You can be wise and listen to feedback or you can choose to just deny every single suggestion because you think you are always right and we are wrong... But we are the elitists?
🤔
sacred sable
And it gets offset by "6 noob, 4 is a sheep, 3/15 killed im not hh, and stfu 1"
With caps
Also meanwhile:
certain people look up game profile
"Stfu bronze player"
runic dragon
If a player is rude it's usually ban worthy. Nobody is saying the opposite.
languid cape
@sacred sable I just dont wanna skip about 5 lobbies before I play, you know what I mean.
ebon knot
Bronze and gold cant proof crap,i believe win rate is more trustworthy
sacred sable
I assume you saw my reply to why I don't like lobby skipping or skippers
runic dragon
But if you notice players get mad and heated because they play with gamethrowers or players who don't understand the game and its dynamics... I mean... why not try to do something about it?
glacial warren
@sacred sable that's unwritten rules and not the official ones. You can't report someone for breaking "ranked rules" which don't exist and these rules won't be added. This discussion would be the same as yesterday and therefore useless.
I never said we don't accept any feedback but the discussion from yesterday was exactly the same.
Rules and guidelines are outdated and get an update as soon as possible. Again: this is not #complain. If something has been suggested before, then why repost it? We have a database full of feedback.
languid cape
I play for rank and skill, so if I lose it matters to me
You can lose however you want
runic dragon
I wasn't here yesterday, but I'll give you my point of view
I'm stating several issues relatively easy to fix, and I'm being called elitists and ivited to leave.
glacial warren
Sure go for it. But maybe give an idea to solve your issue?
glacial warren
I read complaints about ranked, like every day.
runic dragon
That should ring a bell
Imma post it again, so I make myself clear. You'll see I'm striking the problem at the source.
glacial warren
It does, but things are partly not possible.
Your idea is a simulator as far as I understand it right?
How should it work?
Who judges?
What has to be the score?
Which player can pass?
All of these questions need an answer.
runic dragon
You can use a simple google survey
Set a simple scenario
Example
You are jailer and during game some dude says "jailer please jail me"
What you do?
A. Jail him and tell number
B. Jail him and kill him
C. Jail some other dude
D. Ask village to vote him
glacial warren
And then users complain about it again. You know why? Because it's to easy.
Do you really think the people which join a game won't understand why this scenario is there and what it is for?
glacial warren
I play ranked yes.
ebon knot
Jailet plz jail me wont be the only quote in the game,smart jailers will take care of the current condition and work it out.
Not options
runic dragon
You don't need to be a master of the game in order to play ranked
The idea of the survey is.make sure players understand the basics
sacred sable
It seems to be very heavily implied, though
runic dragon
In ranked nowadays you can find: meds who don't rev, jailers who jail kill gunner, Rrvs who never claim, Wws who suicide first day, etc
If you're gonna listen to what I say, I could compile easily 30, 40 regular scenarios
But if I'm being called and elitist I won't waste my time
I think it's pretty clear to see I care about the game experience
glacial warren
No because I died because nobody listened to me a few times.
But again: it is just too simple. Sometimes it is because they flood the chat with screaming and claiming their roles, which is not the purpose of the game, but ranked is "special". There you can sell your teammates and claim anything you want. These are your unwritten rules, which is more like there are no rules
I also forgot to jail a gunner a few times, because the chat is full of unnecessary stuff. Because you just don't see the message.
There are different leagues on purpose.
What did I say yesterday? Maybe we should take care of other modes so the players, which can't play there won't go in ranked anymore?
runic dragon
It doesn't matter if you commit a mistake
We all commit mistakes in game
The idea of the survey is to make sure players UNDERSTAND ranked
There's always gonna be mistakes, and even gamethrowers, rude players, etc
That's what guardians are for
But ranked nowadays is just quick game with a skill point system
Let me tell you something
I was playing with a med who never revived yesterday
Politely I told him "please, you need to practice in quick game when you understand how all roles work come back playing ranked"
He insulted me told me to go away, with other words
You understand my point?
past tinsel
Hey, I often see cupid suiciding after couple dies. Which is unnecesarry since he is still village team when couple is dead. Is there any way we can make players understand that, so that they won't suicide?
ebon knot
Ppl now suicide at will,not even report work on them
runic marlin
Hello, there are differents play stiles. Don't jail gunner , don't protect important roles it's a common playstile, because ww think these roles are protected and they didn't kill him.Also don't rev a very important role as med its a different option and wait the dead of important roles. You can't impose your playstyle to other players
glacial warren
To understand ranked you can't do anything tbh... ^^' they only scream at you if you make a mistake in their eyes, even if you did what you always do. They acuse you of gamethrowing, if you did not even gamethrow, because these are their unwritten rules ^^'
I guess you did not play quick since a while? I play quick and ranked and I can assure you, that ranked it 1000x better if it's about rule breaking etc.
I understand your point in this, but this system won't help ^^'
It has been suggested to add new tutorials for every role and that's a really good one, but ranked is only different because the "rules" there are not really rules ^^'
You want players to play all with the same tactics... But they are not the same... ^^' @runic dragon
runic marlin
@glacial warren i am always banned for my playstile
runic dragon
It's not about imposing playing style!!
It's about making sure players understand how ranked works
There's obviously several possible good moves and several possible bad moves
You just need to make sure players won't, for instance, jail random so they don't jail a ww, or something similar
It's not that complicated
And Hyde, those things you're saying are a problem too
There's several ways to fight that
runic marlin
@runic dragon we can add more ranks to be sure that in high rank people are good players
runic dragon
I don't think that would work
runic marlin
In gold there are people that they win a few Lucky games
languid cape
Win 2 placement games and you are in gold :p
runic dragon
Exactly
languid cape
Sorry I gtg to class
runic dragon
In my opinion, silver/gold tier system is useless.
At least the way it works now, it won't prevent any of those issues previously stated.
ebon knot
Tbh,the ranked in this game is just a drama,ww online is all about concept of game,lies and truth.A ranked thing in anygame is competitive,like lol,where players show their skills,like reaction speed,muscle memory,money rate,conducting skills etc,but in ww online its all about concept,ur skill is not likely to improve without ppl indicate you.Practicing in qg will just make the game nasty and pointless as u wont improve,think, summarize,logic and bravery are the only factors in ww online
I personally dont play ranked
for this reason
And about the player in ranked issue
i checked the games age registration
languid cape
If there wasnt placement games and the requirements for other leagues were higher there would still be a difference imo
ebon knot
its 3+
ebon knot
At least google play said that
Its 3+
Some players are not mature and are still kids,wont tolerancing and guiding be a bettet option other than tell them to not leave
runic dragon
Most people are rude in ranked imo ; z ;
languid cape
🤔🤔🤔🤔
The game doesnt even have a offical age ?
It should be same for all platforms
ebon knot
Wwonline is still a very cute game in general,it wont be surprising if some kids like 9.10 yrs old are, attracted to it
runic dragon
Make ranked 14+ ? :D
languid cape
Ohh
I thought you meant your restriction for wwo was
Ah nvm 😂😂
I couldnt read the whole sentence
runic dragon
Nuu 
sorry
lament knoll
its listed as 6+ for me
languid cape
Wow...
I asked mmarten he says the offical is 13+
It misleads people
Shouldnt it be +13 in apple store and google play if it is +13 in the game??
lament knoll
Heyy @languid cape
I am not sure if Philipp influences as how an app store or even country lists the game in age requirements
They are different each country, e.g in America a couple of films are listed as 15+ and in Germany they are 18+....
However once you launch the game after installing it tells you that you have to be 13+ to play this game and you have to confirm your age,,, so I don't see a big issue in it being differently listed in play store....
In Germany +3 doesn't even exist,,, neither does 13+
It's probably just different depending on which country you live in/app store you use or well a combination of both
languid cape
So the devs dont decide the age limit?
lament knoll
They did. It's 13+ I just told you that is the first thing you see once you enter the app after installing....
I am saying they dont control how it's listed in different countries etc
I guess that is why they made that pop up appear, because it didn't before
lament knoll
No prob Yumi 
I'll ask Philipp again to confirm/clarify and will give you his answer then 
runic dragon
@runic dragon apparently there are news rule coming out. We gotta wait and see what they are. You guys already know how I feel. I'll wait for the new rules before I make a decision.
runic dragon
Can we have a way to not have a role in custom games?
Like you can select the roles to be random but not include president and fool?
uncut tusk
@runic dragon Hello there, thanks for suggesting! Hmmm similar ideas have been put in #feedback-devs recently, would any of the following be okay for you? Or would you want something more specific?
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/658002968808783896
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/650976553987211275
@rain fiber Heya, thanks for the idea :) I'm afraid this isn't going to be accepted, as anyone could disable this filter, even by accident. Also, what do you define as "mature" language? Harsh words that are currently censored? I highly doubt they would serve any purpose in the game or discussions anyone would have there... They're censored for a reason. I agree with you that they also cause some problems (the words "grape" or "passion" are censored because of that), but I really don't think your idea should be the way to go 😥
rain fiber
its used in another game I play,so im just giving the idea here
everyone can find a way around it ,it saves time to have mature language filter off
runic dragon
@uncut tusk
Sorry what I meant is that you can select that a role does not exist at all.
Maybe an anti role list.
We like to do full random but we don't like having fool or president.
A person could have roles like strong villager and then choose that there be no seer.
A person could have random killers but choose that there be no arsonist or zombie.
autumn lake
Does anyone else agree that they should change sandbox to only let people above level 20 are allowed to play?
languid cape
People lower than level 20 can even play ranked, I doubt that will change
Sandbox is to test bugs anyways? 🙃
runic dragon
next escarp
put a button somewhere on this screen to bring a player to #bugs-readonly so they can report bugs easily
since not everyone has discord right away
median elbow
The fool is a role that commonly helps the ww get wins much easier. The hh however normally causes the ww to lose mist if the time.
Hh nerf/ww buff:
If the hh target dies besides via lynching the hh will commit suicide, however you will still win with the village if the village wins.
Suicide message: The headhunter failed to lynch his target and committed suicide
Reasons why this is a good change:
- This nor discourages or encourages the hh to reveal their target day 1. Revealing a real target makes it so the hh has one way to win only. Being dead and praying. Not revealing a target ensures him and his target are alive and 2 win possibilites are possible.
- If the hh target is killed the ww will be double dipping and getting a double kill, but the hh will still have an opportunity to win with the village.
- The werewolf team has worse luck with a headhunter already. Fool games are much easier to win as a werewolf.
no staff responded to this
ripe fog
bot!:D
night path
@autumn lake Suggesting about sandbox changes have been changed, for reference.. see here: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651550914389344258
haughty marsh
night path
@next escarp I like that idea, it could be clean and easy to implement, however im not too sure how it would be straight to bugs, maybe a discord link?
@median elbow I like that idea, but when you get killed as HH do you still win or is it a lose? (considering wws killed you directly)
runic dragon
@ripe fog why you spamming? 🙄
@median elbow does he suicide last day?
Besides it being damaging to the bad roles, the headhunter who reveals his target day 1 is defeating the purpose of his role. He becomes like a 4th rv. The game no longer has four teams. It now only has three. It really ruins it
astral spruce
Suicides
- If someone from your team suicides you should get an extra amount of XP. I suggest +5 to 15, depending on your team.
median elbow
@night path if the ww kill the hh directly the hh will lose.
@runic dragon no it's just the standard hh and target are still alive situation
runic dragon
@median elbow what if your target is a confirmed role? Say your target is medium and you can't get them lynched day 1. By day two they're confirmed
median elbow
That's already the case. If you're target is the medium the likelyhood of lynching them is already low in the current standards of the game
It's one of the simplest ways to balance the hh out without turning it into the executioner from Town of Salem
runic dragon
So if medium dies say day 3. Game ends day 5.
I don't suicide as hh?
median elbow
The game normally ends day 3-4
You're putting the death thing out of proportion. Think of the hh and target as a couple but if the target dies so does the hh. If the hh dies the target doesn't commit suicide.
And I never said you suicided as the hh... this is how the hh would change. The hh would commit suicide if they failed to get there target lynched
The hh normally claims a target. If the hh claimed a target in this case then he is risking death and a bigger loss. It's a balance for the hh that can still make the hh a villager
With the current state hh games make the village stronger. This would balance the village out drastically
The only people that wouldn't love this is people that love winning as a villager in hh games. Fools leave a big impact on villages and the ww team.
languid cape
Thats exactly why I suggested a skill change in hh/fool games, evils win less skill in fool games
But it got downvoted lol
I suggested a hh buff and even role changes both denied
languid cape
Or claim seer yourself
runic dragon
@median elbow the days were just an example so I could understand and support your idea 🙄
You did say suicide?
night path
@median elbow sorry for not getting back to you earlier, did anyone deal with your idea or shall we carry on?
median elbow
You said "I don't suicide as a hh" it confused me for a second @the O mighty jasmin of WWO
No @night path
Tagged the wrong person
runic dragon
I'm putting myself in your hhs shoes... Zzzz....
median elbow
Oooh. The hh will suicide if his target is killed any way BESIDES via lynching
runic dragon
So shooting sk wws... All of it
median elbow
@night path no staff reviewed it
The hh becomes a village if his target is attacked/killed. Being dead is a second chance at winning the game
runic dragon
So if I'm trying to get my target lynched day 1 and gunner shoots him instead. I suicide.
Do I win with village?
night path
if this isn't about feedback i'd move to dms or #wov-chat . But regarding your post @median elbow I like it, it's a good balance to hh. something like this hasn't been suggested before (or in the last 8months or so from when I checked) so I will add for you.
runic dragon
Sorry I haven't fully grasped it yet
median elbow
@runic dragon yes. you will win with the village (if the village wins) if your target is killed via bullet, ww, witch, whatever the case is. Your target died before you after all.
@night path can you add the reasons why it should be this way. And it doesn't stop the hh from claiming their target it discourages the hh from revealing their target
night path
thank you, i will change it up
frail hedge
Lol i just got a hh in ranked who teamed up with the village and i got pissed 😅 great feedback. Hope it will change something for the better
languid cape
Hh just turns out to be a villager in ranked games anyways, if im sk I just stab the unknown
median elbow
@night path you forgot to add the reasons why it should be this way section
quaint bramble
i suggest reposting your original message and addin in the couple comparison
not sure if Necrie is available to edit it though
median elbow
I'm okay with how Necrie worded the message I just want the reasons included
Reasons why this is a good change:
- This nor discourages or encourages the hh to reveal their target day 1. Revealing a real target makes it so the hh has one way to win only. Being dead and praying. Not revealing a target ensures him and his target are alive and 2 win possibilites are possible.
- If the hh target is killed the ww will be double dipping and getting a double kill, but the hh will still have an opportunity to win with the village.
- The werewolf team has worse luck with a headhunter already. Fool games are much easier to win as a werewolf.
night path
@median elbow Im rlly sorry, i will change it. i had to rush off somewhere
is this ok?
vague flame
I know you can spend coins on roses but maybe we could also exchange roses for coins
median elbow
@night path yes
vague flame
@languid cape no?
runic dragon
@lament knollHi,about the idea i posted some days ago i will explain myself better.In ranked current skill points are given by different parameters(what is your role in the game,the rank of the players you are playing with and so on)even so,correct me if i'm wrong,at one point you arrive that the points you get are stabilized more or less and this permites a player to improve is rank just winning as villagger and not necessarily as ww and solo as far as he plays a great amount of games.Now what i was proposing was to reduce the amounts of skill points earned(-1 skill point) for a win in any role every 1000 skill points you get after reaching gold rank.Let's say for example you get an average of 20 points for winning as a villager untill reaching Gold,so untill you get 1700 skill points,when you will have 2700 you will earn 19 for winning like a villager,at 3700 It will be 18 and so on.Doing so at one point winning like villager will be not enough to accumulate points, more or less, since like ww you lose an average of 16 skill points and 4 like solo(at 11700 you will earn just 10 points winning like villager considering the example above) and this were true skill come in place,since surpassed at certain limit of skill points you will have to win with every role to improve your rank.This method would make ranked extremely meritocratic.
uncut tusk
Sorry for the late answer, discord was being buggy
@rain fiber Maybe but it doesn't mean it's a good idea 🤔 The censorship system isn't perfect but being able to disable it isn't a good solution, in my opinion
@runic dragon Hmm I see. I'll give it a post ;) Thanks! ❤️
sacred sable
Renove that stupid new Snippet feature.
It's in the way on mobile and basically useless.
Red highlight on people saying your # is good, though
But maybe option for other colors in case people are colorblind
runic dragon
Why is Snippet Stupid? 🤔
Is better than copy-paste
Too useful when u have to say ur number as Med/Jailer and don't wanna type
what's snippet
Available in version +0.40
Ima ask in questions
Not everyone has the update
So I dont annoy staff
sacred sable
Not even
It's just in the way on mobile
And there's not even an explanation to it
Guardians still need access to Jail chat, too
Js
craggy dagger
Suggestion
Patch notes/bug-fix channel where all features of a specific update are archived
sacred sable
You have
No idea
How many times I suggested that
On top of me being told it's been suggested many more times, lol
@craggy dagger
Either a full list on here, or on playstore
craggy dagger
Preferably both
sacred sable
But playstore list does, and I quote, "shows bigger, important summary of what's in the update"
quaint bramble
Its been suggested before, posted to #feedback-devs and even got a 👍 for Emanuel
But it does not exist yet
craggy dagger
It wouldn’t be too difficult at all to implement on the discord, gives players in the server something else to talk about
Helps to bridge the gap between the dev and the player
sacred sable
And also actually tell us what changed, not "fixed outfits sometimes not saving in inventory"
runic dragon
I am aware that this feedback has been suggested a lot before, but I wanted to get it reposted with my own spin on it I’ve seen a lot where players want more notifications on players they reported getting banned. I personally want this and here is a possible way we could do it:
We could put something a button in the top right corner or settings or somewhere that shows the status of your reports. When you click that button the above image would pop up. You can then see the status of the players you banned.
Reported means none of the guardians have read the report yet
Viewed means a guardian has viewed the report
Banned means a guardian has decided to ban the player. The banned player will show up in the report status list for a few days before being removed from the report status
Also there can be an option for “Not Banned” or “Vetoed” that will also be removed from your report status after a few days
Also there would be an option for username changed for those inappropriate usernames
Once again I realize this is suggested a lot but I wanted to put my own spin on it and see what helper+ thinks. Thanks
Lol thanks but don’t spam reactions plz
quaint bramble
@runic dragon I think this goes way too far honestly... let the guardians do their work in peace.
And we dont want naming and shaming of players, its very anti-privacy
languid cape
This would encourage people to actually report im sure of it ^^
Some people dont report cuz they dont think they get punished
runic dragon
That is true, I just felt like players really would want to know if troublemakers they reported were banned or not
quaint bramble
they never look in this server then, cause we get people complaining about their bans daily
I agree that 'player got banned' thingy could come up more often, but this suggestion really takes it a mile too far
runic dragon
That is true, I just didn’t want to copy other suggestions word for word
languid cape
Maybe get a notification specifically on who got banned?
runic dragon
That’s what I thought but there have been suggestions for that already
languid cape
Because I really want to know, if they actually got banned or not
quaint bramble
Thats a privacy issue imo, and honeslty how often do you remember the name of every random shooting kid you report? Porbbaly not all the time
runic dragon
Tbh I’d rather have more often notifications on when a player you reported gets banned
languid cape
Same
runic dragon
But that’s been suggested a lot before so idk
Could you repost the idea of more often notifications for players you reported getting banned or not Maje
quaint bramble
well thats a bit difficult cause we dont know the what conditions currently trigger it
sacred sable
Personally speaking, I find myself telling people in other games the name of players that gamethrow or team >>""
craggy dagger
A few lobby hoppers will say “3 gt” before leaving
rocky jewel
Can you stop the banning
craggy dagger
@rocky jewel Can you stop the rule-breaking
rocky jewel
Impossible
fathom patio
Werewolf Online Black Theme
quaint bramble
@fierce shale Not sure why you ping me for that. I think thats more of a bug than a feedback, i doubt its intentional since your own trap can kill you. But yup will post this one 👍
@rocky jewel Pretty obvious answer; no. We do not and will not tolerate rudeness, misbehaviour and gamethrowing. Please stick to the rules if you dont wanna be banned anymore.
If you aren't sure which actions are rulebreaking, you're always free to check with us in #questions .
rocky jewel
Can I ask how many people have been banned forever since the start of the game?
quaint bramble
I have no idea.. recently staff revealed that guardians ban an average of 200 players per day though.
permanent bans are quite rare and only for very extreme and repeated rule breaking.
fierce shale
@quaint bramble lol sorry , I didnt think it was a bug
glacial warren
You can type the rank command in #bot-commands
In wwo it is not possible ^^'
thorny forum
shrewd minnow
Hi !im 1. HUN
stoic pike
limber lily
@stoic pike Hello, welcome to the server! This channel here is for sending in feedback, if you have some. If you want to chat about the game you can go to #wov-chat , anything else goes to #off-topic for chatting, and you can also check out the language channels if you speak the language. Have fun :)
high fable
Make it so that you can report a clan. 
sudden dock
sect buff idea
Extra ability: cult kill
Once per game you can kill a player, but you can only do this once your sect has surpassed 3 players.
sacred sable
Gonna just
Re-suggest adding ability to report multiple people at once, and/or one person for multiple things at a time.
ebon knot
Buff sheriff's observe skill,he can see two players instead of only 1,cuz sheriff currently sucks
runic dragon
I see a lot of people asking about how to deal with bans.
Maybe the bans should come with clearer instructions?
celest seal
I got banned for no reason
Clearly when you turn so and give sl information thats gamethrowing yall stupid ash
sage fractal
I got banned for no reason
Clearly when you turn so and give sl information thats gamethrowing yall stupid ash
Mình bị limit play ma sói rồi
Help me
runic dragon
languid cape
Message one of them if you think your ban was unjustified
@[Mr]Mr.Coherent#7013 @sage fractal
sudden dock
Make it so that you can only revive cupid once their couple dies. Because cupids first team is lovers, right?
mighty granite
Well, Cupid is still a villager also. Even though the lovers don't win, the Cupid still wins with villagers.
languid cape
The logic is more like headhunter tbh, if a headhunter’s target didnt die you cant revive them. Same should be applied with cupid
I agree with him/her
xD
night path
@sudden dock hey! Thank you for the idea. The sect leader is a solo converter role so the idea on killing someone is different to their role goal. However, the “cult” kill makes sense as the sect leader has surpassed a team of potentially dangerous villagers. I am happy to post this but if you would give more context on how this would work it would be highly appreciated!
@sacred sable ( @high fable ) Clan reporting/group reporting is quite suggested and I will try and link the reference just below. The idea to multi report is a good idea however it gives more freedom for abuse & guardians. Because sometimes people need to be banned for different reasons etc. Clan reporting has been suggested before though, as shown here:
Been suggested before, right here! But thank you for your feedback 
@ebon knot
@runic dragon Hi! Im not too sure if you are commenting on a previous feedback or suggesting something. I like your idea, there has been changes in the past to make it easier however I am open to suggestions
runic dragon
Maybe there could be instructions like go into discord and type.?ban and it'll give them the list of guardians and and instructions.
I just see people constantly asking about bans and how to speak to a guardian
Maybe also add not to contact a guardian listed as AFK
light edge
@knotty kelp @ebon knot why dont you just give fake info? 😂
runic dragon
@sacred sable I'm talking about people seeing their ban message and not knowing what exactly to do
sacred sable
Ahh, true
runic dragon
I don't know if it would easier to direct them to a channel or if it would easier to give them a command
knotty kelp
@light edge Today I beg to not remove Sheriff because half of my werewolf wins are because of that role 
languid cape
sudden dock
@night path buff
The sect leader should get a new ability: Cult kill
This ability would enable the sect to kill a villager once a game. There are restrictions though:
-This can only be done once
-This can only be done when the sect has >3 members
This would allow the sect to kill any dangerous role that could reveal or kill the sect. If this player is protected, then the ability would be wasted and you would be inable to do this again.
median elbow
Sect leader and buff should not be in the same sentence
wispy shuttle
You mean zombie and buff?
sacred sable
Zombir kind of gets buffed regardless
wispy shuttle
If you dont kill zombie night one you lose
Theres a 1/4 chance he hits a wolf and a 2/16 chance wws kill him
sacred sable
I can suggest stuff for Discord server too, yes?
wispy shuttle
I guess
sacred sable
Ban Barney-related stuff from server zzzz
night path
@sudden dock when the sect leader gets 3+ members, there usually isnt many members left in the town. With the context of a cult kill, the kill can be very powerful late game
spark sleet
the hair does not look correct
median elbow
It's a bug. the skins got slightly updated
forest rover
Also no need to make everything pixelated 👀
median elbow
Same thing happens with shirts to
night path
i did reply to you @sudden dock but seems my msg hasnt sent
sorry for this, i will rewrite
When the sect has more than 3 members, werewolves, village killing and votin has usually killed alot of people. I think the cult kill should be less than 3 members, like in a sense that the sect leader tried to convert someone but killed them. As if there is more than 3 members then it ma be very unbalanced for the wws as the sect will more likely hit one @sudden dock
OH I DID REPLY
light edge
@night path if sect has more than 3 members
both village and wolfs misplayed.
sect is the weakest solo role. but people don't know how to play against it...
night path
I'd say serial killer is the weakest solo role, sects team is constantly growing throughout the game where villagers can defend their leader. Personally I feel the bigger the sect gets, the more powerful it gets you know? a cult kill with a large sect can target wws easier but if a sl tries to convert a ww earlygame they dont have to out themselves to get rid of said werewolf
sacred sable
Suddenly wws find sl and kill off entire village
sudden dock
Oh okay yeah i understand
wispy shuttle
Sk is like the 4rd best solo under zombie cannibal and corrupter
Sk was the best before all of these
median elbow
@wispy shuttle : 4rd
Also @wispy shuttle : Ford
thin orbit
Players who get their roles into the game should get a role creator badge. (Maybe even a personalized one that has their role on it?)
Designers get badges, and while I understand that it takes more time to make an outfit, they are much more common in game then fan made roles. Even getting a role into #dev-vote is super hard, but the majority is filled with outfits. Please consider this
wispy shuttle
Zombie rework:
The first zombie is the alpha. If the first zombie dies, you can no longer convert and the other zombies only kill every other night. Zombies still kill at night if the alpha died the previous day and if alpha dies during the night nothing happens until the next night where they can kill every other night.
wispy shuttle
Yes i know thats why i said to add that
thin orbit
Oh, I don’t really like that... 🤷♂️ defeats the purpose of the role
wispy shuttle
I would also say to just limit zombies or only let them bite every other night
glacial warren
@thin orbit Heya ^^ A role crator badge has already been suggested a few times and was reposted from me in august. If you want to check out the message in #feedback-devs, then just follow this Link and maybe leave a https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/611904017798529042
Thank you very much for the suggestion anyways!
@wispy shuttle To limit zombies has already been suggested many times. To limit them in the how much they can convert and also that only one zombie can convert. Thank you very much for the suggestion ^^
thin orbit
Ok thx 💚
signal sun
How can I talk with guardian?
runic dragon
fossil kettle
Here's a list of all guardians
signal sun
Thanks
fossil kettle
Oh and next time please use #questions ^^
signal sun
Okay sorry
sacred sable
Gotta change/fix the new ping/highlight system in wwo
It highlights if anyone says your # in it
Which includes "15 is bad" when you're 1 or 5
low ledge
Merhaba
night path
@sacred sable Hello there, do you have any proof of this? I would like to know for reference
sacred sable
No screenshots, but can 100% confirm because the reference of "15 is good" I made was from a game in sandbox I played
I was 1, 5 was flower child, 15 was aura seer
night path
@runic dragon wouldn't just be #dev-votes ? All complied votes go in there and i dont think an extra channel would be necessary, unless you are meaning something else
Does it tell you in chat if someone is good/bad then? I am not updated (IOS gang) aswell as showing their icon?
sacred sable
Any time someone typed 10-16, I and one of the others also got highlighted posts
night path
Oh, that isn't good then 
. I can understand why this is the case though (Like CTRL + F) and if it hasnt been suggested, I will post this for you
sacred sable
Explain because all I see is a red highlight whenever someone types my number in chat during games
Nothing about icons or roles
Just whenever a number is mentioned
languid cape
There is a pinging system in wwo? 
night path
apparently so
@sacred sable why not ask in #questions next time? but for what I know, it shouldnt be reportable
quaint bramble
If you find it inappropriate you can report it, the guardians will judge it from there
sacred sable
I'd like to think "Magic_Fetus" is bad
languid cape
I think that we should get a new item or a badge for being active in the wwo discord server. This would encourage more people to join the discord server, and introtuce us more people from the wwo community?
runic dragon
We should be able to hide our badges, they will still see it in-game but not in your profile.
sacred sable
Make an option to hide ranked stats, too tbh
I mean more, not automatically open on your Profile
wanton prism
Can I suggest removing flower child or buffing it. It’s kind of useless and mainly used to gamethrow. Otherwise it’s just a really weak claim for guardian ww
ancient wasp
Suggestion
Reduce the cost of name changes from 100 coins to 50 coins
- Such that we can change names that we like more easily
- Reduces the targeting and metagaming problem in ranked (for example, people who know my strategies will suspect me without any reason because they saw my username)
@wanton prism agree it is much weaker than pacifisty
runic dragon
Need to speak to a main person please. Don't know how to work this discord thing
craggy dagger
@ancient wasp if you want to solve the problem of being targetted in game, suggest a feature that allows you to go anon skin and name like how in Town of Salem you get an automatic name like Giles Corey
runic dragon
@craggy dagger how do I get ahold of the main ppl?
runic dragon
😑
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Heya the best place to ask would be #questions but anyway, what is the problem?
runic dragon
@quaint bramble trying to figure out why I got banned and if that kid who said he was out to get me banned did it unfairly
quaint bramble
in your ban message it usually states a reason already, if you think this is unfair then you canmessage a guardian
runic dragon
opaque pollen
Yep, and even if someone repeatedly reported you in a match only 1 report counts from them
lament knoll
Heyyaaa @languid cape
This has already been suggested before, tho it's not really liked because we would get more people here but most only seizing for the reward...
So people would start spamming, sure you get xp per minute but some might not know that at first and join - get the shirt - start spamming a bit until they get warned for it...
Also the other question is for which level do you get the badge?
Badges are meant to be rare and I don't think a discord badge would be... it would be even less rare than the social media badges...
Unless you only get the badge if you reach level 50+ that could be reasonable probably
Even tho I think we shouldn't put priority on adding new badges and instead other things this has indeed not been reposted in a very long time so I will give it a repost
Thanks for your feedback and have a nice day!
Hello @runic dragon
This has indeed been suggested before!
So you mean not showing on your profile but still showing if you are wearing them/on your outfits?
Sure, why not! Seems like an interesting and possibly useful feature! 
I think I will give it a repost!
Thanks for your feedback, have a nice day!
Hi @sacred sable
So you mean hide how many sp you have, which rank you are and how many seasons you have participated in on your profile?
Sure,,, why not... to prevent "good player focus" on quick and sb or simply because you don't want it to be displayed on your profile,, I can imagine it to be useful in a couple of cases
I'll give that a post, thanks for your suggestion!
Have a nice day
Heyy @wanton prism
Flower child can be very useful, especially in a lover combination, to protect your lover from lynching, or if the village is voting the fool to stop them from it,, how would you buff it?
Flower child is basically like an one use day doc, giving it more protects would be op and only increase gamethrowing?
Would you mind to elaborate your idea of buffing?
Heyy @ancient wasp
Decreasing it will also allow throwers to change their name more often so you can't keep avoding them because they will just get back at you with another nick and avatar or racistic players/players which are worth of a report to guardians in dms will just change their name so if you report them with their name to a guardian in dms they won't be able to track them with that name if it's changed...
There is a down and upside to everything... 100 coins are a reasonable amount in my opinion,, to avoid the targeting problems there are other and better solutions imo...
I understand your concern but I think the banning issue has got priority and for targeting because of names there can be much more not hardly realisable possibilities still not getting in the way of that issue,,, thanks for your suggestion tho!
Have a nice day
runic dragon
Idea for Cupid
So you chose your couple and the one dies first night. You're then given a new lover.
Can it be the same for a lover that is glitched? Give cupid and the lovers a chance to play.
uncut tusk
@runic dragon Hello there, thanks for suggesting! Hmmm if we go that way, then we should give everyone a chance to use again their ability if their first target dies 😅 I do understand how cupid feels when such a situation happens, but it's part of the game. Look, if bomber puts bomb the first night and realizes the next day one of them is their lover, should he have another chance to play?... 😉
runic dragon
@uncut tusk but if the one dies first night then he auto gets a new one. I feel bomber is different as they get three people as well as them not dying first night.
rotund wigeon
I had a idea about the Shop and this chatroom seemed like a place to post something of the sorts, if I’m incorrect on that let me know...One thing I would like to see is to turn Rose you receive into Coins, But a balanced system where you can turn them into coins but NOT back into roses with a confirmation screen and how much you wanna Transfer. Starting price can be 25 per rose since that’s how much a rose cost to give
formal pivot
Hello, in this game I had one bullet remaining but we lost anyway because we were as numerous as ww. With the bullet we could kill one and vote the other one.
uncut tusk
@runic dragon Well then if one of the lovers is glitched, then try to kill corruptor within day 1 ;) There's always a chance to survive.
@formal pivot Heya thanks for the suggestion! Well the ww winning condition is already met, as you said. You should have used your bullet earlier ;)
runic dragon
@Surprise#9602 oh okay. That makes sense. Can't do anything about your lover being killed first night but you can fix the corruption
rigid bronze
@rotund wigeon Hey, this is indeed the right place to talk about suggestions ; however yours really looks like an Easter Egg, the rose wheel where you spend roses to spin a wheel (similar to the gold wheel with ads) and where you can't get some very very nice prizes 👀 as a consequence, I don't think your system would be really useful, used or even just really fair (with the rose wheel you can get 1000 golds for 30 roses if you are lucky)
ebon knot
Its a very useless idea,but very user-friendly
Add a time display beside the top discussion/voting timer like,the displayer should be like
Night 0
Day 1
Night1
Day2
Night2
Etc
spark sleet
it will be better if mm can't shot hh, it's really annoying because hh is a villager...
woeful mesa
Hi. There isn't a description anywhere of how the battle pass works. Do I need to unlocked it now, or later, what will it change...? Those kind of question don't have an answer clearly written on the battle pass. I think there should be an informative message (like a "?"), and when we click on it it shows clearly how the system works (unlock tiers even if not purchased, you'll still get the reward if you buy it later...and so on).
There is the small message under that say it, but it's not really clear
meager gyro
@ebon knot That's a cool idea, I'll add it to the list 
@spark sleet The headhunter is a solo role and 'their own team' -> a potential danger for the village
@woeful mesa Thanks for sharing your concern! There will be an info in the faq about the battle pass
Thanks for the suggestions! ❤️
woeful mesa
Ooh okay thanks for your answer!
runic dragon
Hi
vernal dune
runic dragon
@night path i mean where anyone can write something
primal fox
bug ?
today date is 11jan
and i watched 2 times adds i spin wheel but i cant get it my reward 2 times
runic dragon
Hi. I was playing rank now. Since this latest update the game is lagging. I thought it was just me but the others were struggling to.
sacred sable
The ban notif stays for 2 weeks after your ban as a reminder
@primal fox
runic dragon
Do I got banned for autocorrect saying I’m ww and it got confused with cursed??? Help
Any admins can help me?
dreamy burrow
Contact guardians
languid cape
@runic dragon if you think your ban was unjust message one of the guardians
primal fox
@sacred sable okay thanks
runic dragon
@runic dragon how do I do that
Your skin looks the same. Sorry. We're not meant to chat here. Chat to the guardian who set your ban.
runic dragon
Hi
With regards to the rank leaderboard cheating.
Maybe we should have two guardians (minimum) who are regular rank players for every language mode. If more guardians are needed applications can be made open but just for that language mode.
I don't know if there is such a thing as too many guardians. Maybe you can call them rank angels. And they only deal with rank bans. Maybe there can be multiple angels.
And I'm not trying to cut out the other modes. Rank is the only mode with a leader board.
languid cape
I suggested that the guardians should be able to view games without the 12 reports, since they are experienced enough to know whats gamethrowing/cheating and whats not. The answer I get? “They have a life and a job, they are doing this volunteerly.”
What about cheaters and boosters in the rank leaderboard 
glacial warren
Well. Guardians have to be trustworthy since they deal with sensible information ^^ I saw some guardians in ranked already, as example Artemis ^^ To have two guardians in every ranked language is not necessary tho ^^' Every guardian checks reports and bans players for gamethrowing and others. They can read chats as soon as someone reported in the game and not only after 12 reports 
Cheaters in ranked: well if nobody reports, then guardians can't take action and that's how it is.
And Jasmin, please don't attack other users "you look like the gunner who random shot"
languid cape
@glacial warren Why isnt the top 1 player not getting banned? How is it possible to get 2k skill points and double the second player in 2 days???
They havent even played for a week, no where to be seen in the leaderboard but turns out he was just mocking us
He pass the whole leaderboard in 2 days
glacial warren
It is pretty known, that there are some issues but do you have any other evidence than the count? Is the user teaming? Is the user breaking rules while being in a game lobby so you can see if he breaks rules? If yes, report the player there.
languid cape
You can clearly see their village wins in their profile its like triple their loses
And their ww win is almost none
It shows the same ratio as xp grinders which proves they arent playing real games or they know all the wws day 1
Cuz they have multiple accounts
Its pretty easy to grind in a low player language server, there are barely people there
glacial warren
check #dev-vote ^^ remember the grinder vote? So you can see what users think
@languid cape ^
languid cape
@glacial warren That doesnt effect the ranked grinders
And I already explained why I picked no
That isnt a solution, its just a speed bump
Its like the devs are just discouraging grinding but they arent saying its illegal and can get you banned.
And my point isnt grinding here, I said that the guardians should be allowed to review peoples accounts and their games without someone needing to report them. Is it that hard to just monitor 10-20 players?
Xp grinding does not affect players, but playing in language servers and boosting skill points does affect my rank on the leaderboard and its not just mine
glacial warren
Grinding is grinding I don't see any difference if you grind in ranked or another mode ^^ There you go again with the fact, that ranked is special. The users in ranked should follow rules. So. Ranked grinding is grinding. The message or more question you reacted with "No" was the question "Boosting (grinding) is a problem in wwo and something needs to be done about it."
You can report grinders ig if they break any rule there and you have the needed evidence ^^
languid cape
I dont see philipp mentioning the word “ranked” in even one of his sentences. And how can I be sure that these people will get banned, in fact they wont because its not “illegal” its just discouraged by the devs
If the devs really wanted to fix this problem they woudnt even give us a chance to vote, which shows us that devs dont want to fix the problem but instead, see if its a problem or not
glacial warren
Grinding is grinding 👀
languid cape
I mean, do you ask people if calling someone “noob” is bannable? No. But why is it bannable? Because the devs said so. They could perfectly make grinding illegal without a vote
Ranked grinding is called boosting, it involves teaming and playing with multiple accounts which is also another offense that is bannable
But I still see them on the leaderboard??
runic dragon
@languid cape guardians also have lives. The report process takes time. They can't also watch games.
runic dragon
@glacial warren yes Hyde. In English we are fine. What about the cheating servers?
languid cape
I mean instead of banning someone because they called someone “noob” why dont they ban the actual teamers and grinders
runic dragon
We can't report becusse we aren't in that server. Put people there.
I tried to play to be able to report. It's too hard.
languid cape
Why? Because its not illegal, its discouraged 
runic dragon
This why I specifically said language server related guardians or angels
mild stream
Привет
pure totem
glacial warren
They could, but they want users opinions. I guess you don't understand the fact, that the devs can still change it. Should they just implend things users dislike (I mean others than the grinding) random? I think this game is one of the games where the devs work pretty much with users opinion and the voting is about the fact if grinding should be stopped in a way. Here is also written in the message, that grinding is considered gamethrowing. Please read properly.
You reacted to a message with the question if something have t be done about grinding and above is written, that grinding is considered as gamethrowing and now you say the devs have to say that it is not allowed? This is somehow confusing since it obviously is ^^
languid cape
Grinding is not gamethrowing, its nothing near it. It should be considered a different offence and should be bannable
But currently devs dont think like that 
They think its the users choice to grind, but they shouldnt bother other players doing so
runic dragon
@glacial warren I've played 10 seasons with them cheating
mild stream
glacial warren
How about reading what you react to?
runic dragon
In 10 seasons it hasn't been solved. It's broken.
languid cape
How is it gamethrowing if everyone agrees to it
runic dragon
Someone needs to be where they are playing
mild stream
Who know anythink code
languid cape
@mild stream come to #bot-commands
glacial warren
@mild stream do you have any feedback? else pls move
mild stream
I bad know english
runic dragon
You say they need to be reported. I'm South African. I attempted to go in and it was a failure. Please can you put someone in there.
glacial warren
@runic dragon yes but guardians can read it. They just need a report ^^
@languid cape I feel like we don't understand each other properly, maybe it is the way I talk, but I will say it again. Grinding is considered as gamethrowing. read properly
__ the process of grinding XP by trying to end a game as quickly as possible. Usually done in a group of 16 players and / or by revealing all roles as early as possible (gamethrowing).__
runic dragon
I'm from a country with 11 official languages. The only option I have is English. We want to catch them but we can't play in their language mode
runic dragon
Surely there should be guardians suited for every language mode?
glacial warren
the process of grinding XP by trying to end a game as quickly as possible. Usually done in a group of 16 players and / or by revealing all roles as early as possible (gamethrowing). Do you see here anywhere, that they don't agree?
runic dragon
It doesn't happen in English server where I can only play. And I can't play there to end this
languid cape
So they see it as an bannable offence and the top 1 still isnt banned???
😂
What a joke seriously
runic dragon
Everyone knows it exists. Put someone in there.
There's generally three or four of them
languid cape
This guardian system always amazes me
Not hate speech : “I will kill your mum”
Hate speech : “noob”
glacial warren
@languid cape Report them ig ^^ You can also contact a guardian about it, but above you said, that it is not gamethrowing, if users agree, which is not the case as you can see in the message I now posted 5 times and you always said, that it is not the case. Here it is about the fact, that you say something has to be done about grinding while you reacted to the grind message with a no. This is kinda confusing if you talk against your own actions.
languid cape
hoWwWwWwWw
runic dragon
Omg we can't report them
We're incapable of playing in their server.
As I said I tried to go in on my own to catch them but I get shot
The suggestion was I emoji my role
languid cape
I dont see it anywhere affecting ranked, that grinding “solution” you keep saying. If they are teaming in a normal game it wont change it. If they are playing with 15 accounts then it would just slow them dowwwwn but still it wont change anything
runic dragon
If rank is serious we should have people with power in rank for every language mode
glacial warren
report for random shooting ^^ pretty simple and old rule.
@languid cape the process of grinding XP by trying to end a game as quickly as possible. Usually done in a group of 16 players and / or by revealing all roles as early as possible (gamethrowing).
Is there any mode mentioned? If yes, where?
languid cape
It wont affect ranked grinders... thats what im trying to say hyde
I dont say grinding is a good thing but that is not a solution
I dont care about xp grinders tbh
glacial warren
And I don't talk about the second message Yumi. I only talk about this message " the process of grinding XP by trying to end a game as quickly as possible. Usually done in a group of 16 players and / or by revealing all roles as early as possible (gamethrowing)." <-- you reacted with "no, nothing has to be done"
languid cape
Yes it clearly says “xp grinding”
Devs dont even care about ranked
Thats the truth ^
glacial warren
languid cape
Im trying to prove that ranked sp grinding and xp grinding is different
Teaming and multiple accounts are included in sp farms... but you cant report them
I never even saw the user named “useless”
glacial warren
languid cape
abstract crag
@languid cape
sacred sable
Ima
Keep out of this
abstract crag
@sacred sable hi goo
sacred sable
Cux it's ranked related
And I'm just a bronze scrub
glacial warren
You say, that something as to be done about grinding in ranked. At the same time you say, that noting has to be done about it by reacting with a "no" 
languid cape
It says “xp grinding”
glacial warren
languid cape
I dont see the term “ranked” or “leaderboard”
Hyde tell me, would it change anything if I reacted with a yes?
This is my point here ^
Even if everyone reacted yes
It wont solve it
glacial warren
... I don't talk about the idea how to stop it, but about the fact if it has to be stopped You still did not understand what it is about. It is about the whole game and not about one mode...
languid cape
But you said that grinding is gamethrowing and its an bannable offence
Why need a vote then 😂
Devs can specifically hire people to monitor the ranks for both xp and the ranked leaderboard
Then problem solved
night path
@runic dragon hi! What are you referring to? Was it an old feedback I replied to?
runic dragon
Yes
glacial warren
runic dragon
languid cape
Hyde the only thing you are proving to me here is this, you were wrong when you voted no for the voting
Ok lets say I was wrong
Is any of the problems solved?
No.
The solution proposed ^^
glacial warren
I feel like you don't understand me ^^' It is probably just me tho
YOu say, that grinding is not considered as gamethrowing --> false
You say something has to be done --> right
You say, that the devs don't care and care too much about users opinion --> no, yes
it is still not about the voting what has to be done, but if something has to be done
light edge
Yo Hyde. We give info about ranked like other people give info about sandbox.
Ranked is different than qg or sb. You need to understand that
languid cape
Then the devs should place a vote on all of the bannal offences so people can vote what they wanna be banned from and what they not. Does that make sense?
If grinding is a bannable offence then why isnt those people banned? Maybe implement a better system?
night path
@runic dragon if u would kindly link it for me?
languid cape
For the last one yes, devs do not care about the feedbacks about ranked
This is what u get for typing a page full of feedback ^^
After 3 days
Its like ok, but I dont care
To me at least
sacred sable
That's
How I do it lol
Screenshot and crop
glacial warren
This has nothing to do about #feedback-readonly anymore. To be toxic is not necessary too and I would appreciate if you stop. Devs and staff in general has a real live too. They can't be here 24/7 and from all feedbacks suggested in 2019 at least half of them has been added. These were 1700 suggestions in total and you say the devs don't care? This is disrespectful. Wwo is one of the games where the devs actually care about the users. They can also just do it like in other games and really ignore everything, but they don't. Now stop this discussion.
Nobody joins. This discussion is over.
night path
honestly, I dont think that would be the best idea. Because the channel would get cluttered and would have to be heavily moderated, staff would need to put and 
on every single post. People would tend to try and put dicussions there 
and itll just be unnecessary work for us. I feel like the current vote system is alot easier to manage. Like imagine if we had to manage every post in #feedback-readonly and #bugs-readonly itd be quite hard to keep track of @runic dragon . But thank you for the suggestion and i hope you understand
runic dragon
Also i dont mean to make vote accesable for everyone smh
runic dragon
No
It's so much to read. We cannot report as we are incapable of playing in their language mode. This has gone for more than 10 seasons. I don't see why having astleast two higher ups in every language mode is such a hectic request
Rank is serious. Have someone who actually plays it so they can monitor now and again
You dont get what im saying anyways just forget it
This isn't grinding. It's cheating.
night path
No, it's alright i'm up for your suggestion but what you are suggesting doesn't make sense for me 
. Community based stuff is hard to moderate and well, I wouldn't exactly know who would be able to text in the channel if it was
runic dragon
Like... Me personally I'm happy with top 100. I want the gold. But maybe... Maybe... If rank leader board was actually legit we'd stop losing players
It's almost a grave yard compared to what it used to be
If the legit players had a chance and with rule changes we can return rank to what it was
glacial warren
@runic dragon I already said, that guardians have to be trustworthy, since they deal with sensitive information. That's why there are not more guardians. I think the current amount is bigger than we ever had before. Even if we would have them, they won't be able to be in every language mode. They have a real life, handle guardian stuff (dms, reports, bans). They can't be in every game to ban or see these games. Do you really think the rank players, which grind would actually start a game if a guardian joins? No. At least I wouln't do it, since it is like jumping in a net yourself
runic dragon
And another thing... With legit players having to deal with so much poo poo they break. They nicest players end up with hate speech bans.
Ok but which guardian is a rank player in the cheaters server?
We must report. We can't.
This always goes in circles so..... Top placements will always be held by cheaters and nothing can be done about it
glacial warren
Isn't this basically what we searched/search for? A solution and guardians for ranked only won't work ^^' It is nice, that you see... we just turn around in a circle ^^'
runic dragon
The cheating is in other servers. Why should we as players try and learn a new language to be able to report them
runic dragon
We have rewptedly told you guys this is happening and you guys know. We are incapable of reporting them
median elbow
Sect for ranked guardian
runic dragon
This is gone on too long
languid cape
Yes and there is an reason
runic dragon
- Someone gets sent in
- We all suddenly learn new languages
- We just accept it
glacial warren
@languid cape Can you now stop it. I asked you twice now and since you are not planning to read what I said above I don't see any relevance to discuss it more. I also told you this is not about feedback anymore.
Everything here turns in circles which does not help in any way and you always bring it up.
median elbow
I suggested an IP tracker or geo-locational tracker but they said no
runic dragon
I've played the game for a year. Nothing has changed about the top rank placements
median elbow
Geo location is allowed by apple/google
runic dragon
It's been known they cheat for over a year
median elbow
Geolocation helps detect alts in places that aren't cities
glacial warren
This discussion is over. https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/665612842438885386
runic dragon
Oh. There's the answer. Nothing will be done.
median elbow
@glacial warren I wasn't part of the discussion I was suggesting my own idea
runic dragon
Well this will be my goodbye. Sorry guys... I tried... Level 601 and a year of playing. I'm phasing out. I had hope but it's pointless. Thanks for confirming. And once again sorry guys, you're losing another
glacial warren
@median elbow You said it was declined so why was it needed to post it here now in this situation?
@runic dragon You can read the whole discussion above and we can't stop you from not playing anymore. Your decision 
but the discussion above was enough and I don't want another discussion like this, since it is not suitable for feedback
runic dragon
I actually have to read it all. Sigh. Okay.
median elbow
Ip tracker was declined. Geolocation wasn't declined
I'll message philipp since you guys won't post it
runic dragon
Omg. You made me read the past messages and it doesn't even give a solution to what I brought up
night path
@median elbow Please do not directly message the devs. would you link me to your idea please?
runic dragon
The cheating. The win trading in other severs. We cannot report as we cannot play there. And you refuse to put people in there
Check mate.
median elbow
It was just geotracking to prevent players from using alts and irl friends to game throw
Geolocation is allowed by google/apple
Ip logging isn't allowed
runic dragon
@median elbow I had games today when the wws tried to get me shot day 1 as solo
Rank is trash. Placements is a lie with no solution. There aren't enough rules. I'm phasing out, sorry
median elbow
And I've messaged philipp about many things before I still would message him.
"if the rules are outdated speak to kem or alisonn to get them updated" - basically every discord minimod on this server
Anyways back to the geolocation
glacial warren
@runic dragon This discussion is literally the same and now stop it. I already answered your feedback and told you now the 3rd time as I see, that guardians have to handle sensitive information about players and need to be trustworthy. It is not that esy to just take some new ones and say yes now you get much power in game and can just abuse it how you want.
" Do you really think the rank players, which grind would actually start a game if a guardian joins? No. At least I wouln't do it, since it is like jumping in a net yourself"
median elbow
It'd be nice if a guardian could just view a players entire game history....
runic dragon
And some feedback... We've had very little support with our efforts to try and make rank better. Too often I heard "what's the point"
I can just send everyone here to get an understanding as to why I'm giving up. This is insanity. I'm over this fight.
median elbow
It just allows more people to keep doing it. Maybe Philipp or Emanuel need to update the guardian permissions....
night path
@median elbow Right, i am not completey aware of what geotracking is, if you would kindly explain it. Ip logging isn't allowed for obvious reasons and it does prevent us from full on stopping alt accounts. If you could explain it to me first and beforehand so I can understand your situation better please?
sterile sage
Guardians can't spectate ranked game anonymously?
runic dragon
@glacial warren I saw your responses. So nothing will be done. OK. Cool
Just remember when I'm gone I can't carry you as a werewolf
median elbow
"Geolocation is the identification or estimation of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar source, mobile phone, or Internet-connected computer terminal. In its simplest form, geolocation involves the generation of a set of geographic coordinates and is closely related to the use of positioning systems, but its usefulness is enhanced by the use of these coordinates to determine a meaningful location, such as a street address. The word geolocation also refers to the latitude and longitude coordinates of a particular location."
- Google thanks for explaining it for me
runic dragon
Rank will be reduced to quick game because you didn't do anything about the big issues we brought up for months and months
median elbow
Because I was to lazy to to type all that
runic dragon
Anyway. Moving on. People must just stop asking me to come back. I'm out of the server. All hail Useless the cheater for over 10 seasons!!!!!
Bye guys
median elbow
This will limit the following things
- Alts
- Irl Teaming
- Playing with friends/siblings
However:
- The use of vpns increase by 1% for the people that truly want to play with friends/alt
Geolocation is allowed by google and apple
glacial warren
You try to give feedback for ranked but nothing of this suggestions is actually possible. The ranked suggestions given get creative, but some things are just impossible to be improved. "own ranked rules" no. Because this is completely useless. The only rules you could add is, that random shooting is allowed. Selling teammates is allowed and similar. More guardians, which only take ranked as game mode--> not possible. Every guardian takes care of many different language servers and their reports.
I answered this 5 times now.
Stop it now or we continue this in #jailcell-archived-3
sacred sable
She left the server
glacial warren
Well that's her thing.
median elbow
Bronze/silver I expect noob plays like shooting 50/50 detective info. Shooting one of the 2 detectives
In gold I don't expect this to happen at all
night path
"Geolocation is the identification or estimation of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar source, mobile phone, or Internet-connected computer terminal. In its simplest form, geolocation involves the generation of a set of geographic coordinates and is closely related to the use of positioning systems, but its usefulness is enhanced by the use of these coordinates to determine a meaningful location, such as a street address. The word geolocation also refers to the latitude and longitude coordinates of a particular location."
- Google thanks for explaining it for me
@median elbow So what I can grab from here, it's like real world location meaning the app would be able to use your location (So similiar to Niantics Geo-locating when it comes to both Pokemon go and Ingress) This could be battled by spoofing/vpns however I am not sure how this can be put into the game when it comes to banning but I understand where you are coming from. A few problems is that actual people who want to play together will no longer be allowed and people may be put off by the app using your location (People get really iffy if the app asks for information which they do not know is for, because of data tracking and stuff)
sacred sable
Pokemon Go can be spoofed though
glacial warren
There won't be ranked only rules. This is nothing we have to discuss about anymore
night path
Yes, i mentioned this above
@median elbow Though I do understand where you are coming from, and the multiple benefits it provides im not too sure if this can be exactly done. I am happy to add to feedback devs but don't count on it being in the game 
median elbow
I'm gonna push for game mode and league exclusive rules, not ranked rules exclusively rules. I'll do this a later date though
If friends want to play together they can use a vpn (most people know about vpns anyways).
night path
Then would this not just encourage people who want to make alts to make VPNS?
night path
Would you kindly link me to your other idea that hyde had said beforehand. About alt-ip ?
median elbow
Nothing is wrong with vpns btw. I have my location set to Antarctica once and sent messages from Antarctica for a year it was cool tbh
Alt ip?
That was like 2 months ago
Geo tracking is different
night path
I would still like to read, please.
median elbow
night path
Thank you very much, as said IP banning isn't allowed so this seems like a good workaround. I will post for you in a moment
median elbow
You can probably use a lot of stuff from the first suggestion tbh
Disallowing people with matching locations from joining the same game together
sacred sable
Remove autoreport system
It's pointless and useless when people can bypass it anyways
And people in ranked are trying to use it against wolves anyways
Plus it still only reports you for like, two words
Which are all filtered normally
median elbow
Not useless just overpowered
median elbow
It sucks though
sacred sable
And people want to abuse it as a mechanic
median elbow
It does suck
sacred sable
So the fix is
Remove it
Or update it so all the censored words and such are autoreported
Which the latter will never happen
So optimal fix is
Remove it
If any mods wanna interject or anything here
To try and prove me wrong
craggy dagger
@sacred sable I am 100% for removing the auto filter
sacred sable
To reiterate:
Using the filter against wolves is a LOOPHOLE
And we're supposed to report loopholes
night path
Okay, i am gonna post now
crisp widget
Credit to @craggy dagger
craggy dagger
You could credit a whole bunch of people
Sect has highlighted this issue in the past I believe
I don’t really care about credit
I do care that this game gets better moderation and enforcement of the rules as a social deduction game.
median elbow
@night path I like how you worded that. I don't like saying how that's a turn off by players because that lowers the chances of it getting added. When someone pitches an idea at a meeting-board-like setting or something you try to avoid topics like that
sacred sable
It's true though
People hate having location checked/watched
It's a big open-up for ads by location
But in the face of heavy abuse and etc
Sacrificies must be made
sacred sable
"We need more sexy players from Minnesota!" - game name here
i don't even live in Minnesota
median elbow
Now for clan xp grinders I'm gonna start this debate here.
Clans occasionally game throw games, lynch the fool/hh target intentionally or kill all ww day 1 and 2 to gain xp at alarming rates. Clans grind by inviting a large number of clanmates to a friends lobby. The way to fix this is limit 3 players from a clan from joining the friend invite screen. This however doesn't screw over clan competitions since they can go to the custom games tab and make a custom game - and they can still gain xp the old fashion way in 5 minutes via custom. If clan mates stumble across each other in quick play sandbox and ranked that's just the luck of the draw.
north mica
Latinos?
fast marsh
Chat improvement
The chat is a really important thing of the game so I think it needs improvement... For example in the clan chat or private chat you start at the top and have to scroll down thousands of messages to get to the newest message. My solutions for this would be that either you jump immediately to the newest message or the messages delete themselves after a certain amount of time 🤔
floral heath
@median elbow bruh that was literally similar to my solution of limiting friend lobbies (through play with friends) to 4 players but staff say it also impacts legit players and Phillip acted like a “legit” player when I asked him too
median elbow
Clan grinding, that's different from friends playing together
I'm friends with 100+ people so in theory I would be friends with half the lobby already
floral heath
@median elbow my solution technically fixes that since clans have to join the friend invite screen so limiting it only to 4 players also stops them from setting up QP or SB grind lobbies. The problem I see are clan alliances and duplicate clans joining together in the same friend lobby instead, which will only make the grind lobby process slower, but they’ll still do it through this type of loophole.
fallow scroll
@bot d
rigid bronze
@median elbow That sadly can't be done because as said above it would impact way too many legit players who just enjoy playing with friends/clan members, and all don't cheat 👀 so, sorry, but that can't be added 😧
slender mesa
K
mystic rover
Hello, it would be great if a feature could be implemented that allows you to make personal notes about players. This would help to keep track of information that is often lost in the chat or takes time to find it again.
sacred sable
Pen and paper
mystic rover
Okay would be an Option but i think this is not the sence of an online game...having this in the App would be much better and helpful
languid cape
Unfair advantage to villagers
meager gyro
@mystic rover Hey! Adding some tool to make notes has already been suggested Thanks for the feedback! 
mystic rover
@languid cape Also ww could take Advantage of notes I think 👀
languid cape
Ww can just scroll up to find the info in their chat
Eliminating suspects is bad for wws
vague flame
I think that corrupter shouldn't be able to corrupt first night. Two times I've been coupled with corrupted but he or she corrupts me first night so we end up both dying unless one of us suicides. If a werewolf kills someone they are supposed to coupled with first night they are re-coupled.
median elbow
I disagree since that's like saying the bomber shouldn't plant a bomb night 1, the sk shouldn't stab night 1, the sect shouldn't convert night 1
I had my lover kill me before and there's nothing wrong with that
The corruptor isn't REQUIRED to corrupt anyone night 1 too. I reccomend corrupting because I'll take my chances
I do however however have personal feedback for the corruptor myself.
...
If the corruptor kills the couple both roles should become anonymous and become corrupted. This is just like the corrupted red lady situation.
night path
@vague flame Hey! Thank you for the idea but similiar things have been suggested with other solo roles and declined beforehand, taking that risk as corruptor, bomber, zomb/sl etc is what makes solos more fun. I understand the frustration and thats totally okay, but this has been declined before
@median elbow Agree, ||corruptor is perfect as it is tho, my baby 
|| It's kinda weird how the lover isn't corrupted but kinda makes sense because the lover isnt directly at their couples house you know? I feel if this was to be suggested, then avenger/jrww tags shouldn't be announced and just say they were also corrupted
median elbow
That's fair they shouldn't be announced
night path
If not posted before, I will post for you but let me just double check
median elbow
Because it reveals their role defeating the purpose of the corruptor
night path
Regarding my own jrww idea, this has been posted before by the lovely Lisa 
. as referenced here: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/589508121563758598
but your idea hasn't been, so I am happy to post
median elbow
That was also from june a repost wouldn't hurt
And it's slightly different it makes the couple death and jr tag anonymous
night path
Yess, check dms too
runic dragon
Level doesn't mean better player I would just change the Win needed at least to 50
rain fiber
level doesnt mean better player yes,but there wouldnt be teamers and stuff
wins are useless cuz u can grind that shit easy
runic dragon
I can't see how add restrictions to lvl 50 will avoid teaming, if you mean play with 2 Account guardian can find multii account in a match
rain fiber
no he cant
night path
Been suggested many times before, as shown here: (not ranked) https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/664420002966798337 and here: (ranked) https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/599232292577214480
sudden dock
Headhunter has a way to win with village, there should be a way with fool.
My preposition: make it so that fool can win with village, if they are killed. If they are alive at the end, they should not win with village.
runic dragon
It would be even stronger than HH
I would make it to he win with villager if he is killed at night
If he dies at day by bullet/Tag etc he should not win with villager
Or vice versa
night path
@sudden dock The fool automatically wins if they are lynched, do you mean if they are killed by the werewolves? Because that wouldn't make much sense either 
potent wing
iron girder
Put a sentence in #event-announcements that events have ended. Cause I was confused a few months back
runic dragon
He mean that HH has two way to win, so why fool not?
sudden dock
Yeah^
median elbow
If I was the fool I would just look for a way to die
craggy dagger
So the fix to being able to prove yourself as non werewolf via the auto filter/report
Remove it
Or update it so all the censored words and such are autoreported
Which the latter will never happen
So optimal fix is
Remove it
Bumping this suggestion
thin dome
Please make it possible to explicitly state that sending roses, going offline, editing your description, or talking to someone through real life to say if someone else is bad is against the rules! I just played against two players where I was the last wolf! One said to send a rose if I was bad and the other said he would go offline if I was bad! This is extremely unfair and people are still doing it to this day without realizing it is against the rules. I told them about it, but I just got backlash and they said it was not, so they obviously didn’t know!
It should be said ON SCREEN when you get the game by itself to confirm that rule! And for anyone who already has it they should see it before they go into a game so they understand it! The rule is bypassed way too many times due to people not knowing about it.
Once people understand that it is a rule, they can hit the do not show again button and just play the game without making it unfair for the werewolves.
burnt laurel
You should keep chats split from teams when we d8e
Die*
If I have a friend on the villagers side i can tell them who's the werewolves once we're both dead and he can tell soneone on his team (if thry get revved or can text)
frail sequoia
Why can't you vote as sheriff if two targets pop up? Surely that is giving the wwsan advantage?
daring night
Lcne its me the paci im sorry about it but he didnt send rose to me @thin dome
And i told him dont send rose at last moment
And i didnt say anything in the argue and im just asking you guys to calm down and dont hurt others
frail sequoia
@thin dome and breathe!! 😂 but seriously so many rulebreakers it is becoming beyond a joke sadly wish it could flash up on the screen to explicitly state it save on the reports if done automatically would prevent false reports also.
daring night
@thin dome pleasr remembered that im not backlashing you ,i agreed my mistake and told the seer dont send and ask yiu guys to calm
I am being polite all the time
Yes
thin dome
...
daring night
You are arguing with the seer and bomber
At that time
And the bomber said something bad about your mom and i asked him to dont hurt others
And also i said sent rose to him if 8 was bad ,but i end up telling him dont send , because you have reminded me that it will violate the rules
next escarp
i think it would be nice for the server if staff members had (unpingable) roles that said their timezone, so users know who can be able to help them
it’s also so people dont get upset when no staff respond to their message
sacred sable
Suggestion:
For "Hall of Fame" in ranked, show how much skill the top 3/100 had for each season
Since it matters so much and trying to find people that boost
And since I saw Lisa typing, ima repost my feedback from yesterday:
Remove. Autoreport system.
Why?
- all it does is stop wolves from trying to gamethrow by keeping them from typing one two-letter abbreviation (ww) and that's easily bypassed
- People keep wanting to abuse this in ranked in particular against them
- it only autoreports like, two swear words in English, which AGAIN are easily bypassed
- unless EVERY possible swear in each language is implemented in this, this is also borderline useless right now
Thanks for reading.
- unless EVERY possible swear in each language is implemented in this, this is also borderline useless right now
meager gyro
@@craggy dagger @sacred sable (added you in for the last suggestion)
The best way to suggest changes and improvements to to filter/ auto report would be to suggest words that should be filtered or auto reported that we have a chance to change anything
Just saying change that, but you won't do anything anyway won't really help and removing it wouldnt be the best solution 😅
@thin dome Repeatingly showing the rules at several points in the game has been suggested before, you can report them for all of the things you mentioned
@burnt laurel That would be against the rules and bannable for you both 😅
@daring night Hey please keep the channel free for suggestions ;)
@next escarp That's a nice idea but some of us don't really live in our timezones/ tend to be here till the next morning
Also it would put extra pressure and expectations that we instantly reply during that time which isnt possible sometimes
@sacred sable It could be that those info wasnt stored, but unsure
Adding it just for the reason to find people sounds like put everyone under general suspicion which wouldnt prove much in the end
Thanks for your feedback
next escarp
ah oki
sacred sable
True, but I like to think that seeing the same one person in #1 spot with like 20k skill and #2 is like 8k
Mighty suspicious
meager gyro
Being suspicious is no proof in the end tho 😅 Its similar to the highscores
median elbow
Can I suggest a top ever achieved by a player type of leaderboard?
This would include all seasons. It doesn't matter if it's a season final or not, If you got 10000 skill then lost 9000 skill the 10000 skill will still be logged on the top skill ever archived leaderboard
Or does this exist
sacred sable
And now to wait on autoreport system response
meager gyro
@median elbow I'll post it in #feedback-devs Thanks for the suggestion!
@sacred sable I replied in the message before
sacred sable
Removing it really would make a difference though
People report throwing anyways and giving "professional players" a loophole to abuse ain't cool.
I can easily make up a massive list of swears though
Not like it'd get added anytime soon because it would include every possible bypass, and the current system allows near-infinite ways to do so
meager gyro
@sacred sable You can still actually suggest things that should be included which bothers you. Atm we wouldnt have a chance to improve it as you just say delete it 
- Loophole -> report it
sacred sable
And if nobody cares to, like most of the rules?
I can't spend months reporting one persom for the same thing because nobody else wants to, and by then most of my reports on that person & thing would be invalid
meager gyro
Reporting is the way to catch them, there are 15 other players each game and continued rule breaking will lead to enough reports
Nobody cares -> as there are more than 100 players getting banned every single day (banned by the guardians, auto bans not included) it seems like ppl do care 🤔
sacred sable
Noooot what I tend to see in my games
What with Turkish claiming sandbox as their server with some 10 people voting whoever says otherwise
Or when people leave every game when they die amd leaves that group of 3 teaming
But you're right
meager gyro
Acting like this will cause many reports tho 👀
median elbow
@sacred sable There's someone that's actually targeting me in wwo and I have started screenshotting every game they target me each and they never got ban yet. I sent staff screenshots about this too - and report ig always
sacred sable
Ye, cuz they don't look at 15 reports from one person
runic dragon
If you knew he was targeting you from the start why didn't you just leave the lobby?
median elbow
Because let him get ban I warned him to..
languid cape
They follow you anyways setto
I always try to run from one guy hes like my tail, when that happens I just go off
median elbow
@languid cape Sleep nub
languid cape
Im trying 
white isle
put all the backgrounds with (for example) wings next to eachother in the inventory, landscapes next to eachother, etc. it will be a bit more organized like that and it will be easier to find outfits. right now it is just organized on value (like purple border, yellow border, etc.) but it's okay if that changes, because it already has the border so we can still see the value.
white isle
is it? because quests mostly get put somewhere in between
sacred sable
Probably because that's when they got added into the game
white isle
ahh yeah probably.. but is it that important to organize it by oldest/ newest? haha
sacred sable
I know for sure the gold bordered ones are shown by oldest to newest
white isle
ooo
sacred sable
From SK outfit
The the newest special offer
Except that for some reason the zodiac outfits are kind of random still
Like
They'll be in the middle in pieces
But the whole outfit sets are put at the end
white isle
yeah so it would be nicer if it was organized by 'similar things together'
sacred sable
Imean
They ARE all bundled together
It's just their placements are different
white isle
yeah but that is only zodiac, for example all wings are all on a different place and it's hard to find the one you want
sacred sable
Example
I have "Show legendary items first" on, btw
And this is their back items
In the middle of the list
Alsp note that the outfit order
Doesn't match the separate item order
white isle
yeah i dont mind that
sacred sable
I know what you mean though
white isle
here the wings are spreaded all over the inventory
sacred sable
But that'd mean labeling the items as like "back_wings" or "front_staff"
And more oeganizing options
Which, ngl, would be nice
white isle
for like the zodiac thing, i guess they are next to eachother because they were added after eachother
yeah indeed
sacred sable
But that also means relabeling
EVERY item
And "ain't nobody got time for that"
Cross your fingers though
Might just happen
white isle
kshdjd i mean, they want it to be a good game right :p then they should improve it ;)
👌
sacred sable
Priorities though
night path
@white isle whilst I do agree with your idea (regarding the backgrounds) alot of things are sorted by release/battlepass/paid outfits. Sorting.. however is a potentional option (Like with the random outfit, you can sort by outfit/bp/paid ETC)
However, I do understand frustration. 
Wings being together would be sort of hard to organize as some items can be labelled as wings but others are in that middle section if you know what I mean?
storm bough
Remove alpha werewolf from sandbox cz its useless there. it's only good power is that he got a unk aura and in sandbox we don't have aura seer and we get the role rarely by rrv.
Alpha=normal werewolf in sandbox
formal socket
Can we have more clan quests please? We have so many new offers but not many clan quests
light spade
Bonjour
fierce birch
I think I want some new role that balance the game
rigid bronze
@storm bough I don't really know if that can really be changed 🤔 by what would you swap it to make it as fair as possible ?
@formal socket There are new clan quests almost every weeks 😅
@light spadeHey hey, si Tu veux parler français tu peux te diriger vers #french, sinon il faut parler anglais !
@fierce birch So do I, but if you don't come with ideas, nothing can change :3
storm bough
@rigid bronze there are plenty of good roles in #role-ideas-readonly
@rigid bronze alpha is useless in sandbox
rigid bronze
Okay okay, but with what would you change it ?
And for #role-ideas-readonly, if a Mini-Mod+ likes the roles they can put it to #dev-vote
storm bough
If not changing the role you can buff or add new abilities for alpha
Idk I just feel he doesn't fit in sandbox
fierce birch
Give alpha can kill 2 player in same night if it is last ww
fierce birch
I think he is good but his biggest problem is player has likely chance to suicide if they get alpha werewolf
runic dragon
no
there’s no really “likely to suicide” as a role in particular
more like evil team in general than just alpha
storm bough
Alpha is a hated role thats what he meant
storm bough
Idk
storm bough
He's not a game changing role in sandbox
runic dragon
well then, what are you suggesting to replace him with?
storm bough
Replace or buff or add new role
runic dragon
a buff is not necessary
fierce birch
Please make kitten ww cannot convert in first day
formal socket
About the clan quests, I never see that new clan quests were added. I shuffle so many times but I still see just the old Quests
sterile sage
Changing :
-Wolf Seer into Seer Werewolf
-Wolf Shaman into Shaman Werewolf
-Kitten Wolf into Kitten Werewolf
-Guardian Wolf into Guardian Werewolf
runic dragon
@sterile sage will your change actually make a difference? it’s minor and unnecessary
sterile sage
If you think it's minor and unnecessary (like centering the number 221 in the level icon) then forget it 😐
hot reef
Thanks for banning me right in the middle of rank. Villager lost.
runic dragon
Name consistency would be better though
Like some Werewolf roles only has Wolf, but not Werewolf for their names
And that bugs me for some certain reasons
sacred sable
Should we rename Serial Killer to Murderer because the role doesn't target people for specific reasons, too?
runic dragon
Lol
Serial Killer can be kept
I'm saying that Werewolves names would be nicer if it's kept consistent
Like, we have Alpha Werewolf, Werewolf, Berserk Werewolf and Junior Werewolf
But we have Kitten Wolf, Wolf Seer, Shaman Wolf and Guardian Wolf
It's like they're totally different species-
sacred sable
It's abbreviated anyways though >>""
runic dragon
True
flint atlas
@mental bluff You should post this in #bugs-readonly
storm bough
@mental bluff try restarting your app
mental bluff
@storm bough already did, nothing happened. Still stuck.
One guy on facebook community also experience this.
@flint atlas already did.
craggy dagger
@meager gyro Here is my suggestion then, my suggestion is to let werewolves be able to say the number of a teammate and the term “ww” or “werewolf”, and this shouldn’t instantly be considered a throw.
Why is this change necessary? This filter must change, as someone can easily prove they are not wolf by listing numbers through 1-16 followed by the term “ww” or “werewolf” and the auto filter will not allow them to post it if you are werewolf.
I do not consider it abusing the filter if you are just typing it yourself to confirm yourself as non wolf, and not forcing others to do it. As a non wolf the game will allow you to say “1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ww.” I consider it to be abusing the filter if you make others also say it or be lynched if they also use it because they know about it or have been informed of it beforehand that also just comes under the person proving themselves freely.
Secondly why I want this changed, is that it is a legitimate strategy especially in ranked, to out a wolf in an attempt to look like a villager. You should only out a fellow wolf in ranked if you have asked for the fellow wolf’s permission and he has given you explicit consent to do so. I have talked to Kem about outing werewolves and when it is/isn’t okay.
I’m more than happy to talk this issue further in DMs
meager gyro
@craggy dagger I'll add it to the list, thanks for your feedback!
craggy dagger
Cheers
vague urchin
People leaving right before match start makes the match still start with less memebers.
Quite annoying when that happens.
Is there no way to stop it from happening?
ebon knot
If a person is nightmared in jail,the jailer should receive a message of "the person fell asleep" since it is quite solutionless for jailer to talk to a nmed guy and kill him cuz he didnt talk
forest rover
That confirms that you’re not a werewolf, @ebon knot.I don’t think that’s fair to werewolves team.
uncut tusk
@ebon knot Heya thanks for your suggestion! It's interesting, I'm going to check if it's in the list, if not I'll add it! Thanks again 😄
@vague urchin Hello there, thanks for bringing that topic to attention ;) I'm pretty sure devs are already aware of that issue, I'll check with the most recent suggestions that have been posted about it, and I'm sure one of them will be added soon enough ;)
runic dragon
New Role Tournament yes yes
tropic topaz
Would love to see sell options for talismans and duplicate loot compensation. Most of my gold goes to guild.. i only keep a little for ranked but when i see duplicate loot from loot boxes, or talismans that i never use, i would love to see a way to convert that into gold, even at 10-30% rate. It is not really bad luck protection since still tng, but less bitter seeing that same shirt come up. :p
quaint bramble
@tropic topaz you already get gold for duplicate Avatar items :) Selling talismans is a good idea, it's already been posted before though
burnt laurel
Med shouldn't be able to talk to other werewolf dead members they always say who the other ww are
thin dome
Add a leaderboard for people with the highest level, people with the highest win to lose ratio, and maybe one with people with the most completed outfits. 😁
quaint bramble
@burnt laurel that's game throwing even in the dead chat it's not allowed so you can report them
burnt laurel
I get that but it's such an easy exploitation that I don't think they should be linked anyway
sudden dock
Idea for next battlepass voting:
First voting: Do the large voting late in the season, maybe 10-15 days in advance before that season ends. Watch the voting for 3 or 4 days, and then grab the top 3 or 5 themes.
Second voting: compile photos for the top themes, and showcase them in the vote. These can be outifts already in the game, outfits that look similar to what the battle pass could have. Or, images or drawings for what the themes could look like. This will really help out the average discord member who only is in the server to vote/ talk little. This vote would take place a little while after the first vote (2 or 3 days).
This will make sure that people know what they are voting for, and really narrow down the themes that are wanted by the players.
runic dragon
Ehy guys, i just wanna say that the report system is not so effective. For example I just seen a game (ranked, gold league) where aura (dead) talked with doc (alive) and gived det (just dead) info.. when an nother dead player asked how he knows.. aura has candid answered: I'm playing with doc. When we asked to report (only 2 of us) other answered laughing and saying: don't cry. So.. this kind of cheating needs a serious and fast ban. Just a screenshot needed and stop.
This is if you still want people continue to play here fairly.. if not will remain a bunch of cheater where people don't have fun.
languid cape
@thin dome doesnt that encourage xp grinding?
Thats like saying hey grinders, you get new benefits
thin dome
Not really
I honestly just feel like custom games wouldnt count with it
Except for
The level
light edge
Who cares about level and exp anyway?
languid cape
Custom games arent the grinding part. The grinding part is the one that they do with their clan
thin dome
The people who have 1000+
thin dome
Tru it’s technically not grinding cuz its so long
languid cape
Oh and @thin dome there is already an xp leaderboard
rigid bronze
@sudden dock Imma give that idea to Mods 👀 we'll see what happens next
@thin dome There is already a leaderboard with highest level 🤔 is it me or nobody seems to know that
For win/lose ratio nop because of the new players with a 100% ratio for example
@runic dragon Sorry for that issue :/ if you took screenshots, try contacting a guardian
sudden dock
Cool
sudden dock
And also i never heard back: i said that the booster looks to much like the sorcerer color for the role in the discord server.
rigid bronze
Yep, I heard that mods discussed it but nothing else so idrk
sudden dock
Hm k
rigid bronze
I saw Lisa typing but not anymore 👀 so she told me that your idea abt the bp themes is very nice but sadly not really impossible because designers need more time :(
spark sleet
it will be useful to have icons which show if couple or wws still alive bc I always forget couple of or sometimes I don't see all wws who r dead n that's annoying
ps: I like random shot
rigid bronze
It won't be done because it can be used as a strategy