#feedback-readonly
languid cape
You can still get this posted if you want btw, mine is a different feedback from this
astral spruce
Shh
craggy dagger
I’m fine with grandma the way it is at the moment, silencing is generally an anti-village play for the reasons specified
If you mute important village, it doesnt go down well, village is down a vote for the day etc
craggy dagger
I don’t like pacifist or mayor
languid cape
You have a “good” aura thats your advantage
craggy dagger
To prove granny usually costs a villager’s vote or worse
languid cape
Yes thats exactly why
craggy dagger
That means I like the design of it because proving itself has a drawback
Which means I’m fine with the status quo
languid cape
Its still about the player playing it
Granny will either force claim if they start lynching a player or they wont mute unless they are sure
And the player that is muted can still type “...” which also helps evil maybe fake, muted
So thats why they cant claim easily
lucid gulch
i just got banned for nothing bro
quaint bramble
@lucid gulch In the ban message it should include a reason why though.
If you really believe you did not break that rule, then contact a guardian in direct message.
runic dragon
languid cape
@quaint bramble how do you get that list?
lucid gulch
but i didn't :((
quaint bramble
The command is ?h ban, but you can also refer them to the channel #ingame-reports-archieved
@lucid gulch Then contact one of them like I just said... they can show you proof or recheck your reports
lucid gulch
oki
languid cape
Thanks maje
mighty birch
Not sure if it should be here or already mentioned before but would be nice to see the full message!
opaque pollen
Yeah I find a lot of the WWO Notifications don't allow pull down to expand
I have to rotate to landscape
runic dragon
My purpose is: when ranked season starts, please put in gold league the players was in gold league in season before. Put in silver who was in silver, and same for bronze.
First days of every new ranked season are an autentic torture, for serious players.
normal siren
Hey, we could send roses to other people via chat
It would be easier to deliver roses to people
runic dragon
We already only have to click two buttons to send roses to people :/
median elbow
I think rrv should be in quick play so give new players an idea of what an rrv is before they join ranked
It gives them an idea of roles they've never seen too
quaint bramble
@runic dragon heya this has been suggested many times before, its definately in demand
I dont know if the devs are considering this atm
It raises the question, if that's truly fair for everyone
@normal siren sending roses isnt very complicated.. how would your idea work? By typing some sort of command?
@median elbow I think thats not a good idea, so many different roles to learn at once would be confusing for new players probbaly
there;s a reason why quickgame works with weekly role rotations instead of shuffled role sets like sb
normal siren
@quaint bramble So ... not everyone can join the game every day, and to send roses, both players need to be in the same room, to make it easier, it would be better if we could send roses via chat. And when we receive roses via chat, a notification may appear
quaint bramble
Im sorry but that still doesnt explain it at all, are we talking ingame chat still or wwo-dms as well?
quaint bramble
I still need a more clear description of it...
normal siren
Seria mais fácil se alguém aí falasse português ;-;
Alguém fala?
Aaaaaaaahhhh sorry
Nevermind
sacred sable
I'd say WWO msgs
Seeing that you'd have to be in a lobby with someone otherwise to send roses
opaque pollen
It may be abused to give real money or buy outfits for the person to send you roses
snow quartz
Can you add button on people's profiles that allow you to invite them to your clan? Thank you.
quaint bramble
@snow quartz Hm maybe if theyre not in a clan, that would be useful
@oblique sedge hey whats the feedback? That the message doesnt fully show?
oblique sedge
I got a player banned after reporting multiple and they didnt get banned
Hate speech seems to do it
But not random killing i guess its not a focused ban offence
quaint bramble
@oblique sedge Well... it doesnt tell you which person got banned or why. And it doesnt appear after every report, cause bans take a while to get checked by staff
So you cant tell which report triggered it 😅
its just to let you know, hey reports do work
oblique sedge
Well i reported a dude and got the msg like 2 mins after so i put 2 and 2 together
sacred sable
Speaking of
Maybe make a separate notification option for report feedback?
Either having almost all my notifications off doesn't give me report notifs (it doesn't tell me WHICH notif is for reports) or I'm just not getting any anymore, which goes directly against what was just said.
And I'm not gonna lie:
Quite a few things in game either need their own separate notification option, or need to be separated from another one.
sacred sable
Also
I assume that the feedback for separating ranked was referring to splitting the leaderboard by languages?
violet turret
idea: add a timer on the chat screen, so as not to go to the main screen of the game, to check the remaining time.
reef musk
is this ok that paci revealed after village lynched sb? its weird, cus it shouldnt be that way
btw it means village lynched 7 and after paci revealed med 6
storm bough
I have a cool idea for achievements.. getting 250 wins as headhunter a player unlock a special t-shirt or a badge.
And add new achievements like lynching a fool 500 times or shooting couples 500 times it would be fun.
runic dragon
Lynching fool and shooting couple achievement would lead to Gamethrowing 😅
quaint bramble
@sacred sable Yeah I can see that would be useful, will post it, thanks
and yes there was a post about splitting the leaderboards per language a while ago
@violet turret Hm that also sounds useful, i guess you want to be reading the info more easily esp on day 1
I think I would prefer if the timeer stays on top though :)
errant wind
illustration of @normal siren idea: Roses via chat
quaint bramble
@reef musk Seems like they managed to reveal very close to the end of lynch and/or there was some lag involved there 🤔
@storm bough We already have the achievement system for XX amount of wins in a role. And this doesnt have rewards, its just cool for showin off. The game already has multiple reward systems and free item sources...
I also agree, that achievements shouldnt lead to gamethrowing in any way, but also not be possible to gain by farming it with friends.
quaint bramble
yeah thats exactly gonna lead to a lot more gamethrowing though
paci random revealing was already a big problem for a long time
storm bough
Hmm
quaint bramble
@errant wind Hm that looks nice, I wonder if thats indeed what Kuro meant...
I do agree it would be nice if we could send more roses at once but maybe still in a limit of ~10 so its not as easy to farm them with friends or alts.
And with this system it doesnt yet allow to send back the same amount easily
errant wind
@quaint bramble better?
quaint bramble
@errant wind Well yes i appreciate the effort, lets wait till we hear from @normal siren again though ^^
blazing ginkgo
Idea: wolf shaman can also make a wolf look like another role
The shaman can choose which action to play.
Oh
Ok
quaint bramble
@blazing ginkgo this gets suggested on #role-ideas-readonly a lot and I think it would make the shaman too powerful, esp if its not just a good aura but choosing roles..
runic dragon
Hi
sudden dock
@errant wind i already suggested that, yours just looks better😂 it's been a while tho so it might get posted. I can link it
There should be a cooldown for games after you comit suicide. This would prevent people from leaving games early. The cooldown would be 5 minutes and work as a temporary ban.
mighty birch
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/663861017557860372 didn't really hear anything about this 
quaint bramble
@mighty birch I thought this was already known to the devs tbh
mighty birch
I kinda asked about it in my question if it was known or not 
errant wind
@sudden dock It's not my idea, I just illustrated what @normal siren said 
sudden dock
Ohhh haha
quaint bramble
It's tough but its only 10 games.. focus on winning the last 2 👌
languid cape
Skip lobbys with new players and you’ll be fine
Maybe skip fool games too if you really wanna win and feel like you will be a villager next game
violet turret
Sadly, after the update, there was a lot of advertising before the game, in 90 percent of cases. Previously, there were once every five games. 😕
quaint bramble
if you have loyalty tokens you get almost none of that, only need to buy 1 thing
errant wind
Currently if you want a nickname that someone else is using you will have to wait for it to be 6 months afk, have no loyalty tokens, but the 3rd requirement doesn't make any sense, if the player has a lv higher than 25 he is protected from losing her nickname, so if a person has the nick you want to use, is more than 6 months without playing, has no tokens, but it is lv 26 so you can NEVER get the nick because that person will never come back to play? This restriction has no reason to exist.
Also in the description of the loyalty tokens should be the information about not losing the nick after a period of inactivity, currently only informed about not having to watch ads between games
quaint bramble
It does have a reason to exist, higher levelled players are more likely to come back after a while
maybe they took a break for school/study
errant wind
I think lv 25 is too little to define it, mostly between 25-50 stops playing and the nick is lost 
quaint bramble
if this system is succesful maybe in the future it will be expanded to freeing names after a yr or something
for a new feature, it already helped clear up a lot of names I think
errant wind
Ok ^^
astral spruce
Some Role Requirements for Ranked
Alpha werewolf is a strong werewolf that can easily be used as a gamethrowing source. I suggest at least 15 levels for this.
Avenger is a strong villager that can easily gamethrow. I suggest at least 20 levels for this.
Grumpy grandma is a semi-strong role that can easily gamethrow. I suggest at least 20 levels for this.
AND YES AM INSPIRED FROM @light edge
light edge
I have been summoned?
Gamethrower roles that have to be taught to new people
Gunner - for obvious reasons
Jailer - endgame monster who can win and draw lost games easily if used well
Alpha - .....let's kill arso night 1!
Mayor - same as alpha different team
Avenger/ Gg/ Fc - these roles are misplayed the most out of all rvs
Random tagging and muting and protecting evil (I know it was supposed to be like that but come on)
autumn tangle
Is it normal not to be able to convert your lover if you are kitten wolf in the game?
(I come here if there is something like that I leave the server right after.)
runic dragon
@եյեㅂռօDㅌլեㅂ| Titanodelta#2343 It is normal, currently you can’t convert your lover
inner sigil
Salut
Hey guys where can i get an admin?
I got banned because of my freind who typed mean words on my game
quaint bramble
@inner sigil if you let someone else play on your account that is still your responsibility and a fair reason for a ban
inner sigil
No i was playing and he took my phone
quaint bramble
you can try to contact a guardian and explain it then
runic dragon
inner sigil
Ok thanks
astral spruce
how did you end up letting someone grab ur phone
punch his stomach if he fat
if he not fat punch teeth
and you'll see how efficient the way is.
quaint bramble
@astral spruce Heya, feedback is really not the place for that. preferably, nowhere is the place for that.
astral spruce
okay sorry
sacred sable
Rule 1 of WWO:
In the case of siblings using your device or taking it -
L O C K Y O U R P H O N E .
runic dragon
Perché sono stato banditooo
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Heya english please? we cant really help you like this
astral spruce
bandito?
Maybe he meant bandit
and so burglary
maybe he got his account stolen
quaint bramble
Ok, helpful.
astral spruce
I must be a threapist
@quaint bramble welp, find an Ambassador to translate us what he means
languid cape
Lmfao my brother forgot his pin when he wanted to lock his phone from me 😂
quaint bramble
Please keep in mind this is the feedback channel.
No need to comment unless it adds to a suggestion...
runic dragon
I used google translate (which isn’t that great all the time) but it is translated to “Because I was banished”
Lol maji 😂
astral spruce
Double/Triple Team Preventing
Presented Problem
- If Kitten werewolf and Sect leader convert the same player at the same day, that player becomes both Werewolf and a Sect member and yet they will have double teams (triple if also coupled). This means the player will be able to see all teams. If there's a werewolf pawn icon next to them, they are a werewolf, if they see a Sect mask they are a sect member. If they don't see anything they are a solo voter/town. This is very over-powered and I think we need to find a solution for this.
Presented Solution
- Since the Sect leader is a solo role, I think it should be stronger than the Kitten werewolf. Kitten werewolf shouldn't be able to convert Sect members, if Kitten werewolf and Sect leader converts same person the same day, Kitten werewolf will fail and Sect leader will succeed.
runic dragon
pallid merlin
@astral spruce Kitten ww is stronger check it on TC
https://discordapp.com/channels/461467302773391370/461532189000204298/658312288473972746
If the icons overlapped, then it's a bug
pallid merlin
"If the icons overlapped, then it's a bug"
astral spruce
I saw sect leader's role and also my old role turned to werewolf
pallid merlin
quaint bramble
Basically, how long ago did you last notice this? cause it should be fixed now
quaint bramble
yeah so, its not relevant anymore...
quaint bramble
it got updated afte the first waves of kww bugs
astral spruce
it was after the first wave
quaint bramble
yes you are free to test it, but I am fairly sure it got fixed
sudden dock
There should be a cooldown for games after you comit suicide. This would prevent people from leaving games early. The cooldown would be 5 minutes and work as a temporary ban.
astral spruce
@quaint bramble i dont have custom games so can you host one game with me to test if you have?
sudden dock
Add a "share button" for clans. This would be fore if you wanted to share your clan through a text or just sending the link to someone.
quaint bramble
@astral spruce Im not able to atm, sorry. and I might be stubborn but I really do believe the devs changed it based on direct feedback to them.. you can ask about it in the tester club or find some people in #wov-chat
night path
@sudden dock after committing multiple suicides, there is a suicide ban which is around 10mins depending on how often you get banned. After every game sounds a little unreasonable as people can lag out 
. I understand where you are coming from though, suiciding in game is very frustrating. Maybe you might want to upvote these specific feedbacks, which are similiar to your problem? Thank you for reporting however, and hopefully the devs can do something to help with the suicides ingame 
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/654640815184019467 & https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/654372654660190211
sudden dock
Sure😀
night path
@sudden dock Love the idea, but how would this work if someone did not have the WWO app installed? Would there be a site where you can view the clan or would it take you to the appstore/playstore to install WWO? Would this give just the clan screen or an overview of the clan stats, times and quests? 
. There is +playerinfo on discord which gives detailed information so would this follow a similiar order?
runic dragon
I give you feedback that would not only make kitten werewolf conversions a little more sense, but to make the zombie role a bit less op.
Just like the kitten werewolf can’t convert their couple, you shouldn’t be able to bite the couple of someone that is on the zombie team currently
night path
@runic dragon Nice idea, however how about not being able to convert the entire couple as zombie or convert as werewolf? This could be applied to sect (i didnt know this was a feature with kww! So thank you 
). It'd make sense in a way because couple is supposed to be their "own team" and as the devs have said previously a couple win is top priority
runic dragon
@night path Your idea of sect is also true, then again with the sect team, it doesn’t matter if both become sect or not, the couple will die when sect leader is killed or if one of the couples members die. While couples are technically their own team as you said, they already have to find out a way to win if one of them is a villager and the other is a werewolf. As I said it all depends on playtesting if this feature is playtested but I feel not being able to convert the entire couple brings the fun, different team couple aspect in werewolf. Plus everyone hates how the zombie is op so this could make the zombie less op
night path
@runic dragon Yes, that's true. it would stop zombie but also isn't fair if everyone is zombie and the last couple cannot be converted because of this. Would this effect be on if the couple is kww/original zombie or would it still be affected if lets say 1 couple is nww but the kww converts their BH lover? same goes for zombie, so a 3rd party source
runic dragon
I like not being able to convert your couple to your team because if we put that in the game with kww, the kww is obviously going to convert their couple unless they are another ww or solo role
night path
So from only first hand POV? so the kww cannot convert their couple but a kww can convert someone who is coupled to a ww?
runic dragon
That’s already how it works with kww. Let’s say medium is coupled with alpha. The kitten werewolf would still be able to convert the medium
night path
so would we put this onto zombies aswell? So only third party can convert? 
runic dragon
What would you mean by third party
night path
As in, another zombie can convert the couple but not the couple directly? So a couple cant convert their lover but another zombie can
runic dragon
The werewolves can convert one of the coupled players as I know of. Nobody on the zombie team would be able to convert one of the coupled players if the other one is currently a zombie at the time
sacred sable
Tfw someone already suggested being able to convert lover as kww
runic dragon
I’m not suggesting that
sacred sable
runic dragon
I’m talking about zombies converting their lover
sacred sable
Afaik, same instance?
night path
Thank you kit, however Panda is suggesting not being able to convert you lover as zombie, or kww (I have to afk, ping me on next reply so I can reply when I get back)
sacred sable
Oh, so basically
If you're coupled, you can't be turned at all?
sacred sable
I know you're saying your lover
astral spruce
if you convert your lover as werewolf
then zb do something
wait wth
[VISIBLE CONFUSION]
runic dragon
Currently the kitten werewolf can’t convert their lover. So why don’t we do something similar with zombies?
Here are possible instances and what would happen:
•If nobody on the zombie team is coupled with someone else, the zombie team would be able to convert one of the coupled players
•If one of the players on the zombie team is in a couple, the ENTIRE zombie team would not be able to convert the other coupled player
•If a rare instance happens where one of the coupled players is bitten and then the other coupled player was bitten the very next night, both would convert to the zombie team
This stuff could also be tweaked in playtesting but that is what the general idea is right now
@night path
night path
Thank you! I will post this for you in a moment once I get back to my computer 💜
runic dragon
Okie dokie, thanks for helping with this
astral spruce
@runic dragon it is overpowered a bit
It makes zombies notified if there's couple amongts them
The reason why Couple isnt announced to other werewolves at night if one of them is coupled is because couple is higher priority
quaint bramble
I am not entirely sure the 'kww cant convert lover' thing is intentional, and I think it just makes more sense to get rid of that ...
astral spruce
and also this can be used by Kitten to force gamethrow another ww?
Kitten says : "THIS PLAYER CANT BE CONVERTED, Who is the couple?!"
And if ww claims couple they are basically gamethrowing
runic dragon
If it isn’t intentional and that feature is taken away, then we can just scrap my idea. Philip and/or Emmanuel could have made it intentional though
I don’t know what power you have to talk to one of them but if you can get a hold of them you could ask if kww not being able to convert their lover is intentional
night path
I do like the idea, and that is why I planned to post it. I understand why you would want to suggest this but as others said, there is many flaws to it. I don't necessarily agree with the idea myself, but it is good to give every idea a chance. The idea that is opposite of this (kww converting their lover) is already posted up. However, if this is declined we can revisit your idea. Thank you for suggesting! @runic dragon all ideas are to be considered and if the other idea is shutdown we can post yours up!
runic dragon
Okie dokie, thanks for your help 👍
sour citrus
T-shirt
runic dragon
uncut tusk
@sour citrus Heya, do you want the discord shirt? If yes, please read the above message ;)
Next time you have a question about how to do something, please go to #questions 😉
tired salmon
It would be necessary to regularly bring new quests into play so that all clans can do new quests. In our clan we have already completed all available quests, which is very boring. the good players who have been in the clan for a long time no longer have any incentive if there are no new quests. there are a lot of designers and also a lot of skins that were suggested for coordination - maybe you could do some of them as quests instead of constantly new special offers ... 🙏
quaint bramble
@tired salmon They can only be quests if they got 6 items or less though. Almost evry week had 1 new quest.
And redoing old quests still gets you some gold, or you just dont buy one for a week, or you help out your newer members to get older outfits too..
astral spruce
Just a little Spirit seer touch
- When you check 2 players and you die, you can see if they killed or not but they won't show on screen with blue/red spirit. Basically if you miss that chat pop-up telling that 2 players killed/didn't kill you basically don't have any info to tell to medium. Make that spirit icons also visible when you die.
lament basalt
Why i'm every time priest or bodyguard ?
quaint bramble
@astral spruce The info isnt supposed to be accurate when you die, but we already got multiple reports/suggestions about this topic
quaint bramble
Isnt it just always blue?
quaint bramble
@lament basalt Next time please use #questions It sounds like bad luck, you could try using talismans though
astral spruce
and I told to medium,
2 and 15 seeemed red, I told medium 2 and 15 red medium was 2 and 15 was kitten
quaint bramble
well ok, it might have already been partially fixed up then 🤔
I am fairly sure it used to always be the same result and not reliable
astral spruce
uhhh
do you mean if you check and die the same day, you will see same result as yesterday?
tired salmon
we have been repeating quests for weeks ... almost the entire clan now has all quests. i don't need any solutions what else we should do - we have been doing this for ages. it is much more about pointing out to developers that it is getting boring for the really active clans. and the developers certainly don't want that, otherwise the best and hard-working players will jump away from them, right? i think there are enough good designers who can design skins with only 6 items....
languid cape
Isnt there a new clan outfit like every 2 weeks ??
copper trench
How can I rate outfits in game? Like how much stars it gets.
night path
@copper trench go ask in questions! :P
@tired salmon this is because your clan shuffles alot, plenty of designs go into clan quests & a new one is put put eacj week. You need to be patient and upvote designs with small number of items!
Everyweek @languid cape
night path
Hmm, im not too sure on that
smoky herald
Please do something with ranked. Like more games required to play ranked. Only new players throwing or throwers, since season restarted never got a game without a thrower. Like please do something, only throwers and no more fun
rich karma
how many new quests have come in the game in the last 4 weeks apart from the christmas specials?
theres not 1 new quest a week...
open panther
What if we create events to "spice it up"
Examples:
Peace day:
Pacifist isn't allowed to use ability, no voting allowed.
Trigger happy:
All those who use consumables (marksman, priest, gunner, beast Hunter, etc. (Not bodygaurd or health characters)) gain one of their consumable, however may not go past limit(if it is trigger happy, and priest hasn't thrown bottle yet, he doesn't gain bottle).
Magical burst:
All magical type people (seers, medium) can use two of their ability that night (medium can channel a spirit, which will be announced, it will announce your role, however, you may send a spirit message to people).
Clinic day:
The doctor's ability will not work, however the bodygaurd can protect three people.
Gaurd's day off:
The bodygaurd's ability will not work, however thedoctor can protect two people, with bonus of protection of himself.
quaint bramble
@rich karma we count the ones that come in with the regular quest refresh, not through shuffling. via shuffle you can do them in advance so the regular quest wont be new anymore.. so that doesnt count
rich karma
I know that. but tamara is right, there are too few quests in the game for the really active clans. Mixing costs a lot of money - it is understandable if you feel fooled that you have spent so much money and now have no more quests!
night path
@rich karma we understanD the frustration, but our designers are working as hard as they can!
thick bolt
IDEA
Battle pass should be infinite. After ending normal battlepass you should keep on but without skins etc. Just coins, roses, talismans or anything you want.
or "2nd" battlepass could have stuff from the previous season.
or "2nd" battlepass could have stuff from previous seasons mixed.
or "2nd" battlepass could have stuff from previous seasons random/or a player could select which season he wants to complete.
Pros:
People get more stuff, skins, emojis etc
People pay coins to complete battlepasses,
People play more to complete bps
People get addicted to this game
Cons:
No idea lol
So 4 different types of my idea
Idea number 2
We have a background. This background it's the same for everyone. We could have different backgrounds. We could buy them either with coins or with real money.
Only pros for this idea I think
Idea number 3
You should have a limit about how many players from the same clan could join a ranked game. That's why many players from specific clans mass join and it's kind of sus. A limit like 2 or 3 would be nice
pulsar rain
Since Santa Claus isn't in game anymore he should be taken out of the random regular villager list
formal ibex
I suggest a system against (skin) targeting in Ranked:
Make all first night actions performed random, so done by the game itself automatically.
This should include: serial killer, ww kill, all seers/detective/wwseer
Optionally also protector roles.
For solo killers it should give a popup and ask you, if you want to random attack/douse or not attack at all this first night.
By: @GrOot
Sorry for reposting this, but why is this getting so many thumbs down? It seem like a perfect idea
runic dragon
Kinda removes the game out of the game
And anyways if you dont wanna be targeted wear a different skin
quaint bramble
@runic dragon targetting isnt just about skins, esp in ranked, the highest ranking players become recognisable an tragetted too
minor torrent
Is Bodyguard an unknown role in the eyes of an aura seer?
runic dragon
Well isnt that the point in ranked to become the top
And bring down the opponents
They can do the exact same your way so I dont see how it is unfair
It's like a youtuber playing
Since ur typing I wont answer the question
quaint bramble
@thick bolt
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Battlepass items from the past arent really supposed to be still obtainable, they are the only exclusive items this game has.
And infinite bp's would put even more pressure on people to keep playing and grinding to unlock everything :( -
Buyable backgrounds has been suggested before, and posted in #feedback-devs multiple times in different ways
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If they do team you can report them for that. I have hardly ever see that before, and you still got friends from diff clans etc who sync up to get better games, but not actually teaming
I dont think this really solves anything
sacred sable
Intentionally destroying people's chances to win because they're high-ranked or easily recognized isn't cool, though
quaint bramble
@minor torrent No, bg is good aura. #questions next time 👀
runic dragon
That's what people are gonna do one way or another
And if you are gonna try and beat them might as well take your best chances
quaint bramble
@pulsar rain This probably is dependant on game versions, I dont think the devs need a reminder ^^
pulsar rain
Okay just thought I'd point it out 👍
quaint bramble
@runic dragon I am not enthusiastic about the idea, but i have seen enough evidence and reasons to post it to fb devs... just surviving past the first night is really a blessing for some. even if they do get targetted the very next day, at least they got to be there at all
runic dragon
🤷♂️
Ur opinion is fine
I just disagree
Being a top player in anything gets u targeted
Part of the fun
sacred sable
Well, imagine playing another game and you were good at it
And people focused YOU because they knew you were good at it
Every game
runic dragon
Have a good day😂
quaint bramble
in most games you can idk, shoot back and stuff
in this game, your skill wont help yu at all to defend yourself
sacred sable
And I quote, "because they're usually higher levels and are good at the game"
Ouch, I was gonna find a quote from someone in event-chat, but that got hidden again
runic dragon
Well someone's gotta be the target
quaint bramble
again, theres a difference between dying night 1 for literally 10+ games in a row
and with this system, maybe once in those 10 games
thats simply the core what its about
floral heath
I agree with @runic dragon tbh, I know what it’s like to be a “High Ranking Player” but like if you can’t play against people who target you then how can you call yourself a high Ranking player? There are ways to disguise yourself that exist and if you are dying night 1 every game you should think first if it’s worth playing at a certain time
floral heath
@sudden dock
sudden dock
That's weird that it has 2 spellings my bad
quaint bramble
@floral heath Im not saying it should 100% absolutely be added to the game, im just explaining why it was suggested ^^
@sudden dock if it was indeed wrong, then my bad, since t was copied from my bp idea list
I kinda like tornadoes better, so I will change that in my list 👀
sacred sable
English is hard, kids
But yes, adding -es to most words is the plural form if it ends in a vowel (special cases apply)
craggy dagger
@formal ibex Most games such as Town of Salem, Throne of lies that are social deduction allow a player to choose their name and skin to anonymise themselves, I’d prefer to have a system that does this rather than outright forced RNG
Like even if you can play under a generic name like “giles corey” that would be great 👍👍
floral heath
@craggy dagger that would be hard to implement due to the complexity of skins in this game
formal ibex
Yeah, but if there's 1 default then it will get targeted
Thanks for the answers and for not getting mad for reposting
craggy dagger
I just don’t think it lends to a good user experience if your night action on the first night is predone
formal ibex
I get that. To be honest I think it's impossible to male this game 'fair' anyways. You'll always have trowers, teamers, and focussers
sacred sable
You mean
Like Town of Salem
Where if you don't type a name, it names you generic stuff like "Father Correy"
Or "Mary Beth"
quaint bramble
@solar dew Im sorry, i get that you want to help but dont you agree thats a little bit spammy...?
And a lot of those have more than 6 items, or even male/female versions
solar dew
If you think it's spam I can delete it. Maybe I oversaw some points, but there are still some usable ones
quaint bramble
@solar dew Yeah sorry I will delete, thats like 20 images and even on pc it lags to scroll past them, let alone on a mobile device 😅
solar dew
Yeah okay.
But yeah some of them already reached the 3.9 mark for a month or something. I don't really get why they don't went in game. Whatever just wanted to said, that there is stuff for quests
quaint bramble
Kem deals with designs, we trust him doing his job.. I dont know how it works, besides most of those habing 2 genders/too many items.
I dont think there needs to be more than one new quest added to the list every week, shuffling is a choice.
runic dragon
quaint bramble
@lean flicker heya random server advertising isnt allowed here, please dont
visual belfry
Add more special deals which are similar to what the starter packs give, u can make ones with roses,gold, and outfits or ones with just a lot of roses and gold but where it gives a outfit. Since to me its better to just save my money after getting the starter packs unless a new deal comes out that can give a lot more than the small deals give.
vague flame
I have feedback for the ww beserk. I really like it when im a werewolf cause it can really help us win but it is plain awful when your a villager. If you dont protect the seer cause you dont want to die from beserk once the villsgers find out your doc they all just start saying report the doctor for game throwing and not protecting the seer. However if you do protect seer and die from the beserk so many people get mad and start insulting you in the dead or blaming you for the loss if they loose. Now whenever I'm doctor and the ww beserk is there I just suicide cause id rather just get the 10 minute ban. A few days ago I got banned for 2 or 3 days for game throwing by the automatic ban and thats the only reason I get reported for game throwing. I don't really know how that could be fixed or even of it should be.
languid cape
@vague flame if you got reported for protecting a seer then the ban was invalid, you could have just spoke with one of the guardians
If you suicide too much and get reports, you can get banned for that too.
Suicide is bannable, the 10 minute temperory ban is just so that you cant just join and spam suicide. But if you suicide too much and collect reports for it, it will be more than 10 minutes..
vague flame
@languid cape oh I never knew that and i always forget about asking someone to remove the ban. Thank you
languid cape
Np : )
dry violet
I need some help
I was seers apprentice in a sanbox game
And right after 1st night happened a message from me said "2 is bad I am seer" popped up I don't know what happen I have screenshots
I'm 6
modest pebble
@dry violet Mostly likely he pressed space all the way so the next sentence comes below
placid arrow
Can we add an age filter on game matching? at least by level or something? Im finding a lot of Incredibly novice players making the game super frustrating.
cedar elbow
I want a dedicated ranked server translated to brazil
meager gyro
@visual belfry Adding bigger packs to buy with real money has been suggested before! 
@vague flame Hey! You most likely weren't automatically banned for not protecting doc, but when you're banned you can always contact a guardian and ask for the reasons to know what you have to improve!
Suiciding isnt the solution, because you get the village in bigger disadvantages than you could ever get while playing the role.
Even if other players telling you that they are going to report you, that doesnt mean you'll get banned. Guardians review all reports ban if needed after and like a said above you can always talk with one of them!
Not protecting the seer bc of frenzy is a reason and you're not ruining the other villager's games. Often there's a med to revive the seer and then it's better if doc is still alive. The werewolves purpose isnt a peaceful one :P
@dry violet 14 pretented to be you with adding much space (You see the lines are thinner like the usual messages). You can report that
@placid arrow An age filter wouldnt work as we only confirm that we're older than 13 and tbh age doesnt say much about behaviour
After level has been suggested before, the problem of the suggestion is that beginners are learning faster with experienced players in game than with 15 others that arent sure what to do
@night estuary I know you dmed me
If you need me, I'll dm asap
But Im not a guardian, you'll have to contact one for ingame ban problems
This might not be the right channel, #questions fit better next time ;)
Also we all need time to answer dms sometimes, you just need to be patient
@cedar elbow Adding brazil ranked has been suggested before 
If there are enough brazilian players who are actively playing quick game, devs can decide to add a new ranked server
Thank you all for your suggestions 
oblique sedge
Plus I was lynched wish there was a fix to where if gunner is exposed then you cant vote them that day
quaint bramble
@oblique sedge The solution for that would be shooting earlier and giving the villagers the time to remove their vote ^^
If you shoot this late while being voted, you're basically just handing an advantage to the werewolves.
if the ww's or couple want to vote gunner, they should be able to do that.
oblique sedge
@quaint bramble it was at the beginning of the day
quaint bramble
Perhaps there was a majority of ww/solos that got you lynched then
Or just general stupidity. Either way I dont think the gunner should be immune to voting
median elbow
@dreamy burrow in you're recent feedback you had me in the first half and I was liking it. The second half however I dislike. The ww and solo killers killing at random is a no from me. Random informatives (including we seer) is a yes from me though
dreamy burrow
Welp I think people dont really understand what I said 🤷♂️
If it had been for some adjustments to the eyes of avatars it would have much more likes
But improving gameplay is a big no I guess
For ww seer, a person from the 11 randomly gets revealed. They can attack whoever they want after that
For sk/arso the first night kills or douses are without any info anyway
So instead of me not killing a friend n1 as sk, or me killing a player I know is good(randomly)
Or just skin targeting
So a person from the 15 would be automatically picked, if I chose to random attack or douse n1 as sk/arso
And I woukdnt be able to specifically kill of a person. Bear in mind, n1 solo kills are random anyway.
@median elbow
median elbow
The solo random is a fair judgement
The ww attacking random and risking a fool kill is the biggest reason I said nk
dreamy burrow
Ww wont attack random
I didnt say that
Ww info reveal will be random
They can attack with respect to that info, whoever they want
Solo killers will get random target
Aura/det/ww seer info will be random revealed
median elbow
I accept this then but random checking should stop eventual. Maybe after level 60 or something? Or after achieving are certain win percentage
clever fossil
I loven the game but it drains the battery super fast
glacial warren
@clever fossil thank you for the feedback, but I don't think the devs can change this ^^' you can play in energy saving mode
median elbow
Match making in quick play and sandbox should revolve around your win percentages and partially your level.
- If you have a high win percentage but a low level then you will matched with balanced players.
- If you have a low win percentage but high level you will be matched with balanced players.
- If you have a high win percentage and with a high level you will be matched with good players
- if you have a low win percentage and a low level you will be matched with better players.
- If not enough players are in your class you will be placed I'm the closet class
- If you have a high suicide rate you will be placed in the bottom class
The questions to ask is what is a high level and what is a high percentage
glacial warren
@median elbow what exactly so you mean? Level and win/lose percent are always team related tbh. You could have a bad team and lose due to this
median elbow
1 game won't have a massive impact on your win percentage
I should increase my wins again
40% is an okay win rate so they would be placed im the balanced class if their level is low they will be in the lower class to neutralize it. If they are balanced and a high level they will be I'm the upper class. Balanced win and balanced level? They are balanced and in the middle.
It would all be probability with the match making. High wins low level, high level low wins, high wins and level, etc.
glacial warren
So basically a new matching, similar to the level idea, but with matching with win percent? If I understand it right 💡
median elbow
Yes
It's better than just having it revolves around levels win rates and levels can determine if a player is balanced or lower class
glacial warren
But wins or loses can also be bad because the team you had was bad 👀
median elbow
@glacial warren some game throwers can't determine you're ENTIRE WWO accounts long term future
I've seen many games get thrown my teammates have thrown however it didn't affect my game majorly. Only a few minor wins and losses got added to my record
glacial warren
Okay soo it is a new matchmaking idea 👀 I will post it in #feedback-devs. What do you think about this:
Match making in quick play and sandbox should revolve around your win percentages and partially your level. It's better than just having it revolves around levels win rates and levels can determine if a player is balanced or lower class
40% is an okay win rate so they would be placed im the balanced class if their level is low they will be in the lower class to neutralize it. If they are balanced and a high level they will be I'm the upper class. Balanced win and balanced level? They are balanced and in the middle.
- If you have a high win percentage but a low level then you will matched with balanced players.
- If you have a low win percentage but high level you will be matched with balanced players.
- If you have a high win percentage and with a high level you will be matched with good players
- if you have a low win percentage and a low level you will be matched with better players.
- If not enough players are in your class you will be placed I'm the closet class
- If you have a high suicide rate you will be placed in the bottom class
+pic
And if I post it. Is it made by u or did someone help?
@median elbow
median elbow
I like it and no I'm not one that thought of this. maybe if this system gets added ranked wouldn't be as much of an issue and leagues could get removed
And there are some typos in there like "I'm" instead of "in"
glacial warren
It's about who do I ping 👀
I copied your messages
median elbow
you ping me
polar flax
Hello
glacial warren
Hey ^^ may I help you?
polar flax
When will the roles change?
glacial warren
Roles normally change every Wednesday ^^
glacial warren
No it always changes because it's automatic 👀 just Wednesdays
polar flax
OK, thx
glacial warren
You can always ask questions in #questions 😉
polar flax
Thx
sharp storm
Dear Community,
We are realy sad that our Clan is so super strong in making Quests. We have to wait until new Quests are coming and that is boring the people in our Clan. It gives a lots of Payskins but for the Quests it dont gives new ones. We are repeting old Quests for the people who are new but we are so fast.
It was nice if it gives early more new Quests..thx 😍
glacial warren
So you basically want more and different quest skins? 👀
sharp storm
Yes
glacial warren
Basically it is supposed to give a possibility for clans to get some rewards for playing and I am not sure if there will be added more 🤔 the devs always add some new and I guess your clan skips pretty much right?
I could post your suggestion, but designers also have to be that fast xD
"I want to suggest, that there are more clan quest avatars. I see so much in #dev-vote and our clan is really fast in playing and finishing quests, so we don't get new quests anymore."
^ what do you think about it? @sharp storm
sharp storm
Yeah that is i good idea 👍🏼 thx @glacial warren
burnt kiln
Wwb is broken
drowsy yarrow
if a person we have reported gets banned for a valid reason we should get a reward i think
burnt kiln
Even so he active frenze protectors still alive
If he get killed i first 2 sec night
By mm or jailer
runic dragon
I think that they get ban is enough reward @drowsy yarrow
drowsy yarrow
we lose xp and gold because they ruined the game with suicide/random shoot or voting a confirmed villager
glacial warren
@burnt kiln this is a known bug :/ I am sorry for the inconvenience caused. Next time, please report bugs in #bugs-readonly ^^
runic dragon
Another rule needed to be added.
Sk killed all the wws and fool.
Why?
Because they wanted to.
They said they can it's not against the rules
So right now serial killer can play for village.....
The person is level 274
What they had said after...
- They wanted to do it
- We're not on the same team. They can do it.
- It's not reportable
This really needs to be fixed
visual sparrow
If I buy this special offer, is that I will get the avatar by randomly?
uncut tusk
@runic dragon Heya! Well, the sk needs to get them killed anyway, so it's not reportable 😅 Tactically speaking, it's probably better to focus on villagers first, but that's up to him to choose who to kill first ;)
@visual sparrow Hello there! Please go ask that in #questions ;)
runic dragon
@uncut tusk they didn't play to win. They killed the ww and fool for fun.
visual sparrow
OK
runic dragon
At the end they said haha I'm last
They killed the obvious bad roles. Because they want to and can.
You cannot win like that. It's rare that we get serial killers like this that do it on purpose but it does happen and we can't do anything as they think it's fun
They infact said they killed them because they wanted to
The needs to be some sort of limit
languid cape
Well if a werewolf says im sk guess what I will do 
uncut tusk
They're solo and, as long they don't try to bribe anyone (like "whoever pays me the most roses wins"), they can do it ;) It'll like being fool with the last villager + the last ww, and choosing who will win ;) It's acceptable.
languid cape
@uncut tusk It ruins the chances of evil roles winning, both for themselves and werewolves
runic dragon
@languid cape no one outed the sk
languid cape
Its an unwritten rule that evil roles must make the villagers lose at all costs
I remember intentionally making village vote fool because we couldnt have won
If that is gamethrowing and I get banned for that, then why doesnt the sk who intentionally gives the village win not get banned
Logic?
runic dragon
How do we work on different results for rank as rank players aren't happy with some things
languid cape
Ranked # quick game, sandbox
runic dragon
You should play each role with a goal to win. Killing off the werewolves and fool on purpose just for fun because you can and only lose 3 points isn't how rank should be played
They knew they wouldn't win
languid cape
Revealing solo as werewolf before day 3, random water/tag, claiming fool/sk, random killing as sk/arso, tagging solo as junior werewolf before day 3 all should get banned at least for ranked
runic dragon
Rank is for "serious players"
Ye revealing the solo unless it is to secure a win. I agree.
languid cape
This isnt for ranked
If a priest waters the only detective 5 seconds into the game, how are we supossed to win
Or if avenger tags medium just because they are unknown
runic dragon
I get watered constantly by this one player before info hasn't even been given.
Cannot report.
they're allowed to as they're risking their life
astral spruce
Buying Roses for yourself
For 50 gold (2 roses price) you can buy a rose for yourself which will directly go into your inventory without needing to trade it with a player.
ebon knot
Avenger tag medium is just like gunner random shooting
languid cape
So it should get banned but guess what?
The screenshot is from the public guardian guidelines
runic dragon
After that sk game I just closed the app. Something needs to be done.
night path
Technically, a sk that helps town is supposed to get banned, the same happens with fool/hh etc etc. You are supposed to win with your team and sadly people out there ruin the experience. Your best bet is to report the player and hopefully the guardians will sort it out 🧡 . I know you are frustrated but sadly these things happen.
languid cape
Well in quick game and sandbox people play just to survive, but its not like that in ranked games. So whenever a new player comes they just do what they think that’ll make them survive
I had a sk claiming sk and will stab villagers if they let him stay alive
night path
@astral spruce Like the idea, however! How would this work? where would this be bought?
runic dragon
@night path it's not reportable. As said above by Sunshine. They're not the same team so they can do what they want. There's a difference between an SK doing bad kills and then a high level coming in and doing it just because it's fun
astral spruce
@night path Items page in shop, it should be named "Rose for yourself".
runic dragon
People find loop holes and have a haha you can't do anything about it attitude
night path
I know, it's bad. It should be reportable however, outing yourself & helping another team is a type of gamethrowing
astral spruce
except you are the Solo
Fool/HH with alive target/Solo Killer can help wws if they want
runic dragon
Well they only admitted they were sk when their fun was over.
Village said : so you admit your sk
Sk : haha. Isn't it obvious?
It was just fun for them to do it and that's what I'm saying shouldn't be allowed
astral spruce
?
languid cape
@astral spruce its not about helping werewolfs, if you kill werewolves as sk chances are you arent gonna win because werewolves and the villagers must be balanced
night path
@astral spruce Now that I think about it, this would be kind of broken. Think about it, how quickly people would get roses? I think the main mechanic of roses is to give and trade to another/between players. Do you understand where im coming from?
languid cape
Now if you kill 3 werewolves and there are none left, the only people left is you the sk and 6 villagers how likely are you to win
You ruin the chances for both teams
night path
Yumi, Jas. I dont really know how to help, this is feedback and im having a hard time to kind of see what feedback you are giving. If you could both give a straight feedback for me then i'm happy to dicuss it with you. I know frustration happens and I get why you are here but there's not much I can do without proper feedback. You know? 
astral spruce
@night path Yeah but when you don't have time to trade you can just buy it for 2 rose price. And trades also require 1 rose from one player and one from other player (2 total). With this you just buy 2 roses for yourself and your trader but you get them both.
runic dragon
I don't report an SK who is new to the game and made a mistake. I want to be able to report an SK who is blatantly killing werewolves on purpose.
languid cape
Its about why ranked rules should be different than quick game and sandbox
astral spruce
SK HAS ITS OWN TEAM
languid cape
Simple.
languid cape
@astral spruce have you ever played a single ranked game?
night path
Please do not argue here, this is not the place to do that. Keep it to dms if anywhere.
runic dragon
@astral spruce the serial killed killed all the werewolves and fool on purpose. They were out numbered by village and did it for fun. They weren't playing to win.
astral spruce
@runic dragon Serial Killer it's his own team. He has no other members in his team to ruin the game for them, it isn't gamethrowing.
runic dragon
Rank is for serious players and we care about our points. Unless you're playing seriously or to win you shouldn't play rank.
Like arsonist being shot day 1. It's allowed.
languid cape
He ruined the chances of winning for himself and the werewolf team
night path
@astral spruce wouldn't this ruin the purpose of roses though. I know it takes a long time to trade but i think gradually saving up makes it fun 
runic dragon
Back to my request. Can we have different rules for rank?
Ones that suit serious playing
junior sequoia
There should be an option to buy usable roses directly
night path
@junior sequoia Been suggested by burrkey just before, want to join in on the dicussion? I don't especially agree with buying directly usuable roses but all feedback should be considered and we can dicuss this
runic dragon
These are rules rank players want
languid cape
Copy paste from up above
Revealing solo as werewolf before day 3, random water/tag, claiming fool/sk, killing evil roles and solo voting on purpose as sk/arso, tagging solo as junior werewolf before day 3 all should get banned at least for ranked
I said all these and you ask what my feedback is 😂
glacial warren
It always depends on the rules you want ^^ yes solo killer is solo so he can basically not gamethrow tbh. It makes no difference if it's qp, sandbox or ranked. Can you confirm that they did kill wws on purpose? And even if he did, why shouldn't he be allowed to?
If you say, that solo roles are not allowed to kill wws, how should they win?
ebon knot
@night path but sometimes theres no other options,if a fool is checked by a confirmed seer,what should he do,the moment seer tells village X is fool dont kill,he lost already.he dont have other options other than helping solo and wws
languid cape
They ruin the chances for their “team” hyde
runic dragon
@glacial warren I knew for sure based on the conversation I had with them
They weren't the first high level player to do it
languid cape
Isnt that gamethrowing? They didnt even play to win...
I mean if you are trying to lose then you are gamethrowing
At least imo idk what you guys think
runic dragon
@glacial warren I did say above there's a difference between doing it so that the sk and wws lose is different to making an error or trying to win
They themselves they wanted to kill the werewolves and fool
Their only kills was 4 wws and fool
They said they wanted to and we can't do anything about it. They were laughing. Everyone is shouting report. I asked them some questions. But I didn't report because I know it's not reportable... I closed the app and left
languid cape
This is one of the reasons why ranked rules should be different
runic dragon
Just asking that rank has different rules it's for serious players. We play for points.
I know of three players that do this. And it's always the same response. Laughing and saying no one can do anything about it
languid cape
I even saw a player that intentionaly lost the game to let his friend win, he stabbed a wolf on purpose and even admitted it
glacial warren
Btw the guidelines are outdated and random priests are reportable. If a priest does random, just report them.
Again. Solos don't have a team. They can decide. Tbh it is like fool helping village. Do you want to report a fool, which helps village because you are ww? No because it is fool.
I really understand your concerns, but solo is solo.
The game rules will stay for every game mode and there won't be rules separated for ranked. Why? Because you want to sell the Jr? Because you want random to be allowed?
As pro players, you are supposed to know rules better than other players and follow them
The rules will hopefully get an update soon, but currently they are outdated too.
runic dragon
Why is it so bad that rank has its own set of rules?
languid cape
@glacial warren You seen ranked too... the rules are outdated for ranked
runic dragon
Sk should not be killing off bad roles leading to village win on purpose
And
Solo should not be asking to be shot day 1
languid cape
A wolf seer coming and saying 9 is sk, how could this possibly be good for the werewolf team
ebon knot
Priest random threw a ww
Crowd:Cheers and applause
Priest random death
Crowd:RUARUARUA REPORT STUPID PRIEST WAWAWAWAAAAA
runic dragon
So different rules for rank is a no?
Because if things aren't ever going to change then I'm not going to be interested in playing anymore. And I don't think it'll just be me feeling like that. Some people only play rank.
glacial warren
These rules should not only count for ranked then. You want ranked rules separate from normal rules, which is kinda useless. If this problem is like this in ranked, why shouldn't it be the same in quick? You don't play quick and only think about ranked. Not to offend you, but ranked Is for pro players and not for "special" players if you understand what I mean. You are also players. Same as quick game players and sandbox players.
Player is player and if such a rule gets added, then for all.
runic dragon
It's not the same rank I started playing in. Too many solos are asking to be shot day 1 and many other things. It's getting worse.
languid cape
Its not that it has “special” players but its that people who play ranked play for skill points and its mostly competitive, people who play sandbox and quack games however play it for fun
runic dragon
It feels like a solution is to have stricter rules so people can play correctly for a serious game mode
languid cape
Its the game mode that is special, not the players in it...
runic dragon
Rank has a leader board. The other modes don't.
Rank is meant to be for serious players. And we do play seriously and competitively. We play our roles to the best of our ability. We play to win.
languid cape
ebon knot
I still dont understand
Gamethrowing= reveal ur team number,seer misinforming, suicide upon first night
Griefing = random shoot or water(no matter good or bad),asking for death as any roles,going offline for long time,info in other languages,rose bribery?
glacial warren
@runic dragon as I said, the rules will hopefully get an update soon, but again: separate rules from normal gameplay is a no.
@languid cape yes you play for points, but quick game is much more an issue here. You are in your ranked matches with players, which are "pros" and meanwhile in quick and sandbox are much more gamethrower.
You say ranked are not special players? Why do they act like this then sometimes? Again. You only think about ranked and not about other game modes, where gamethrowing and rulebreaking is the biggest problem. In these modes you can't even play games without gamethrowing. What about these players?
runic dragon
I don't know if this is silly but shouldn't sandbox have the least amount of rules as it's also there to test roles?
languid cape
@glacial warren I dont think what I just said is selfish?
As you know ranked has a leaderboard and players play it for ranks and skill points which includes prizes
So it should be taken seriously
Why am I seen as egoistic again? ;-;
All the time..
They could play “fun” games if they want to in sandbox or quick game because im sure they wont want these rules in their games
glacial warren
@runic dragon no? Sure it is to test roles but you have to follow rules there too
@languid cape you are not, but I want to make the fact clear, that every mode should get attention here.
languid cape
Its like this because sandbox and quick game players dont want new rules to restrict their “fun”
runic dragon
I have no issue with quick games have stricter rules. Just don't see it working so well when you're dealing with level 1 players and other low level players who are still learning
The gunner who shot med day 1 and suicided often won't do it when they're a higher level
I always saw it as
Quick game - learning
Sandbox - fun
Costum - fun with friends (yes there's open custom too)
Rank - serious
ebon knot
Ur wrong,lv 1 and learning players want do that,they wont even know where to find their gun and how to shoot it,they are always misunderstood as fool or hh.
This is why the game often gives new player bg,doc and priest,cuz they wont cause much conflict(even they dont know how to play)
runic dragon
Not sure why my request is bringing drama/animosity/arguments
languid cape
Level 1 players dont know how to use a water as priest and end up getting lynched
Gg wp
runic dragon
@ebon knot okay. I'm wrong about everything. You guys win. Thanks
glacial warren
@runic dragon you're not wrong, but if you suggest rules, then for all game modes
runic dragon
Nah. I'm done.
languid cape
Imagine adding a rule so that you cant reveal solo before day 3 as werewolf
How could that be added to quick game
Where literally all 4 wolfs scream that 10 is sk
They simply have to learn the game beforehand so they could actually understand why there is such rules..
@glacial warren why is it so bad for these rules to be only in ranked tho? I just dont get that part. Is it because it would show ranked mode as elite?
glacial warren
No but why should it be for ranked only?
languid cape
I just gave 5000 reasons?
Nvm its better to just dm a dev I guess
Ofc if they respond to the current one
hollow solstice
ebon knot
If i am a new player and i see a pile of rule as "ranked only"
I will think of that the non ranked games dont need to be treated seriously
glacial warren
@languid cape you gave 5k reasons and I told you again and again. The other modes are still full of gamethrowers.
languid cape
Thats exactly why those rules cant be placed??
They dont get the “rules”
If they dont take the current rules seriously, how are you supossed to give the new ones and expect them to apply it.
Just think about it..
And usually after selling the solo as werewolf in sandbox, people are still able to win because the villagers are weak.
In ranked its the opposite
Its not the same game mode so it should be treated differently
glacial warren
Maybe we should wait until the current FAQ gets the update?
languid cape
When is that?
glacial warren
Idk but I know it's worked on
eager niche
@runic dragon i think that even though it's a much more casual game as compared to ranked, you have to remember that there are real players on the other end as well. if you're gamethrowing/breaking rules, it's impossible to play a proper game and everyones time will be wasted
light edge
yes
qg 4 suicidal player per game
sb 2 suicidal players per game
ranked 0.5 suicidal players
same game mode? I think not
glacial warren
Well if it is that bad there, the players which want to play properly move to ranked and since they are still beginners then, there is also more like this ^^
runic dragon
@eager niche no issue with the rules being everywhere. I just didn't see it having much of an impact in quick game. I'm just maybe being negative.
languid cape
Well hyde you just addmited that the more serious players would move to ranked...
That just proves my point?
glacial warren
I say, that players move if they can't play properly. I don't doubt, that ranked is for more serious players. I myself moved from quick game to sanbox and back because I couldn't play properly. Now I also play ranked, because there is no other chance for me. Like this I know pretty well, that players in ranked are already much easier to handle than in quick or sb. I guess I played 1 game quick and the difference is just oof. That's why I say, that we should begin with these modes.
Users which can't play properly, but may be beginners move to ranked and ranked players have concerns about this then. But what should these players do? That's why I say, that these modes should also get attention.
tropic topaz
Curious if the idea of selling back talismans have been discussed before? I dont typically want to use any talisman but i do just to get rid of them. I have only bought a few but for the most part i just go with the random luck. For those i get from loot boxes, it would be awesome if they could be sold for 10 gold.
runic dragon
It has been suggested before
glacial warren
^ Yep I suggested it a while back 
mighty birch
As co leader of a clan you can accept/deny/invite players to the clan right? But you don't get notifications when someone wants to join the clan which is odd when you look at what you can otherwise!
rich wadi
Reporting system doesn't make sense, you can report anyone enough times till they get banned because you just feel mad for accidently voting or shoting them. One game I was aura seer and first day didn't said in game chat, after 3 days I announced that there is werewolf in spot 3, because of that I was lytched and reported. Doesn't make any sense
As a gunner, in game if someone gets accused for being fool or ww or any other evil class, even although they are aura or other good class, shoting that player and revealing his true role will cause all players to be mad and report you for "random killing". Although you were playing the game, not overthrowing
autumn lark
QUITTERS RUINING THE GAME
storm bough
Whenever I chat with someone I have scroll down until the newest message its very annoying
slender hinge
Should be in #bugs-readonly
languid cape
@rich wadi the first thing you did was completely wrong and you should be reported for that. If there was another aura claim especially, you just made them gain more crediblity by not claiming. The second one however you should think with your own judgement. Just because 3 people says shoot someone doesnt mean you have to. Because in the end its still you who takes the responsibility
glacial warren
@mighty birch I was pretty sure I saw this in #feedback-devs already, but somehow I can't find it with the key words so I will repost it. What do you think about this: "It would be cool to get a notification if somene wants to join your clan, because else you can overlook this easily and since co leaders can also accept/deny and invite players, this would give a bit more control for leaders"
@rich wadi Well yes I see the problem, but do you have any idea how this could be changed?
@autumn lark Same. Do you heve a suggestion for improvements?
@storm bough This is known and it has already been suggeste to change this. I am really sorry... Hopefully it will be changed
rich wadi
@languid cape question here did I break the rule of the game?
rich wadi
By not revealing your role you violating game rules? This game is fun when everything is mysterious
languid cape
Not in ranked
rich wadi
Second yeah, I know that it was my responsibility but that doesn't mean I cannot do what it seems right to me at that moment
languid cape
In ranked people play for skill points and prizes.
Not for fun usually
Thats why they probably got mad.
mighty birch
@glacial warren Yup!!!
rich wadi
It's their problem then, but if you reveal your role as aura in first day you will be revealed to your enemies too and be on their target list
languid cape
Yes but then what use is a doctor or the 3 rvs
They are there to protect you
If the village gets more info the chances are you will solve the game faster
quaint bramble
In non-ranked its fine to not give info, if the player you checked died etc, its acceptable to stay hidden, keep in mind there is regular wwb game as well.
Not giving info because you dont have any useful info, its not the same as not saying anything and being a bad seer on purpose.
rich wadi
But question is still the same did I break the rules by not reveling I'm aura at first day?
languid cape
And by not claiming you make the fake aura more credible and let them lead to lynch villagers
Its just wrong
quaint bramble
@rich wadi You did not break rules ^^
rich wadi
@quaint bramble exactly
languid cape
This is exactly why I want the ranked rules to change
quaint bramble
@languid cape i appreciate your input but not eberything is about ranked, the question was does it break rules? it doesnt. In non-ranked like 5% fakes info
languid cape
Well it sounded like a ranked game to me
rich wadi
I got punished for playing the game right
languid cape
Who would rage in quick game cuz they didnt give info
rich wadi
Even in ranked there is no rule such as reveal your role at first day
quaint bramble
@rich wadi If it was ranked I support Yumi's explanation that you should give info as soon as you can, as it gives fake info no chance
languid cape
I lose several games because the real detective or aura didnt claim and the fake aura/detective was the only claim
That led us to killing jailer and doctor
We still thought they were detective but gamethrowing cuz no one else says they are detective
quaint bramble
And what you said abot reporting, no you wont get banned just cause one person reports you 5 times in a game
same person reporting multiple times, it only counts as one report
languid cape
I should probably add this too into my rule proposals for ranked
Not claiming not giving info in ranked....
rich wadi
Quick play and ranked game rules are the same, @languid cape by trusting faked claim auras and detectives it is your fault and not revealing your role at beginning makes more sense to me, of course if you know who is ww it makes sense but still there is hh and fools in the game
languid cape
@rich wadi in ranked headhunters are either too weak and just claim when checked or they act aura or rv you not claiming gives them a better chance
warm tulip
where is guardian
quaint bramble
Ifthe real auras/dets dont claim, you cant know the others are fake
languid cape
How could you know if someone is evil if they are the only claim...
quaint bramble
@warm tulip You can see a list of guardaisn in #ingame-reports-archieved channel, next time please use #questions
languid cape
And you are supossed to be the information source right?
warm tulip
thanks
rich wadi
@languid cape you don't, that's the point of the game
languid cape
So try to lose while having the most fun possible??
rich wadi
Why ww on first night doesn't revealed themselves that their ww
@languid cape why don't you let this game be more mysterious?
quaint bramble
@languid cape @rich wadi Anyway this was an interesting discussion but none of this is actual feedback right now, could you please move to #wov-chat
We can discuss again if you have a solid list of rule suggestions.. but do realize, that we as discord staff dont make those rules, its the guardian's work.
pure totem
when you are sheriff and you see the targets of the two people who may have killed I think maybe they should be shrinked a little bit because I can't even vote for the person I want to when that does happen.
topaz mango
I think , 1 more game can come wwo
quaint bramble
@pure totem heya which version of the game do you have? As far as I know this problem was already fixed. or perhaps your device has very small avatar boxes?
@topaz mango heya, I have no idea what you mean, could you please explain it a bit more?
languid cape
New rule suggestions for ranked:
-Revealing solo as werewolf before day 3
-Random water/tag,
-Claiming fool/sk as an evil role before day 3
-Killing evil roles and solo voting on purpose as sk/arso,
-Tagging solo as junior werewolf before day 3,
-Not claiming your role as a rv or an informer.
-Not claiming when your role is in question (its 9#14 you are 9 and a doctor, 14 claims med but you say nothing)
All should be reportable at least in ranked...
pure totem
@quaint bramble i have version 0.39.11
quaint bramble
@pure totem Hm thats a very new one, im not sure if it did get fixed or if tis your device ratio then, Im sorry :/
It was definatley in the plans to be fixed
pure totem
ah okay thanks!
topaz mango
There is card game sandbox normal ranked , 1 game can come
Like quick draw, idk
quaint bramble
@languid cape Well im sorry but again, rule changes dont go in #feedback-devs
it's something you should submit to Lisa or even Kem, the guardian manager
And Hyde brought up the point a few times, why would these rules only be in ranked?
Do you have a good reason to not add them in other modes? or is it because you only care about ranked and dont consider the other modes at all?, or Im genuienly curious if you have any motivation for that
crystal crypt
I just looked at one of the ideas in feedback-devs about skin targeting in ranked, seeing that people don't like that person's idea generally. What if you were to make everyone's avatars anonymous upon spawning in and on the first night. They can be the default avatar just blacked out with a "?" in the middle. Then by day, everyone's avatars are revealed (It would be this way for everyone, not just those with the power to kill). This makes it so people with the ability to kill on the first night will not kill someone based on their skin, although it may still be random.
Sorry, i was waiting until after everyone was done posting lol.
quaint bramble
@crystal crypt That type of targetting protection has already been suggested and posted to #feedback-devs a few times before as well Im pretty sure. same thing for randomizing or hiding player names
crystal crypt
Oh, i suppose i haven't seen them then. My apoligies.
quaint bramble
This one was posted simply because it was a different and new approach.
I did hesitate to post it because yeah taking the power away from the players isnt fun at all, but it a genuine problem indeed.
It was worth getting some opinions on I think :)
crystal crypt
Okay, I see. Good to know people are on top of things.
naive orbit
There must be more male skins... Cause u can see that the designers make female skins but they have to do both so they add an ugly "male" skin...
languid cape
Majestical
You sure you read chat?
I explained about 3 times by now
Why I want these rules only in ranked and not other modes
Its not because “I dont want” these rules in other modes its because the modes are different
In quick game and sandbox the village is so weak that even if you sell a solo killer you win as werewolf
And they wouldnt even understand the purpose of these rules yet you want them to apply it
Different games different rules simple.
I bet even the guardians wont understand why 🙄
runic dragon
Hey together,
I have a request/idea for Clans.
Is it possible to add a feature, where you can enter a Lobby (like When you invite friends) via the Clan-Chat?
It would be great because then you dont have to add each Clan Member as a friend and invite him or her.
(sorry for my bad english, i hope its still understandable)
open panther
you have an "or" at the end of random werewolf
quaint bramble
@languid cape No I have not read your full discussion with Hyde, sicne she was dealing with it and i got online much later.
If you add rules to one game mode, it does affect the other game modes as well, I think you dont fully realize that.
For example:
if in ranked you are allowed to reveal a ww, then in other modes people might wonder or complain why they got banned for saying '3 5 6 ww'
To you and me the difference is clear, but to them it wont be, and thats why 'just add rules for ranked' is not exactly how you think it would be
languid cape
Thats exactly why I suggested this should only be for ranked?
You guys keep proving my point
astral spruce
Custom Games Suggestion
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Sect leader and Zombie can come from Solo killer.
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Add a new random role called Solo converter and also Solo voter. If you just do an All solo killer game, the guy who is Sect Leader loses at all costs as he can't convert any person.
astral spruce
@glacial warren can you comment on this, please?
light edge
I know how to prove myself as doc
in a way wolfs can't.
Interested? I told Philipp about it already.
glacial warren
@astral spruce This already has been suggested and was posted in #feedback-devs 👀
warm sundial
Yee
astral spruce
CAn you send the link so I can upvote?
warm sundial
Compare como se consigue la cami de discord??
novel fable
I think a feature of "asking to wait" when you get invited would be useful, because it happens often that you actually want to join the game but it already started. would work like this, through a button in the notification like those you get in WhatsApp and discord when you pull it down
quaint bramble
@warm sundial type ?discord shirt in #bot-commands channel
@light edge this is a suggestion or something you already can do? if its the latter, it doesnt belong in feedback
But I do got personal interest in it 👀
languid cape
Read your role description?
light edge
it's basically a feedback about auto reports and auto bans.
you cant expose wolfs as wolfs. because you get banned for it or it even gets censored.
A wolf can never write "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ww"
because it gets censored
a doc can do it. you see where I am getting here?
light edge
also fitting into the village is tough. because you have to put your teammates on the suspect list
and once you do that. BOOM auto report
I know that you can "claim" doc like this as solo too. but it's literally impossible as ww
normal wyvern
I'd like to have different versions of the tutorial, so you can play werewolf, solo killer, fool/hh or important roles like medium, gunner, etc. So you could try to play a specific role.
So, you could decide in the pre-tutorial which role do you want to play to try for it for the first time or idk.
Reason: Some people don't know how to play with these specific roles, specially new player. So this player get in a first round, tries one of these roles and not seer and is confused or does gamethrowing. This would be not cool for the team and for the team/for themself.
light edge
@quaint bramble
floral heath
Let’s be honest just have everyone type that in the game and just kill everyone who can’t
slender hinge
@normal wyvern i agree, sometimes new players say 'i dont know how to play [important role] can someone help me?' And they most likely get killed bc people think they are the fool
normal wyvern
Yea, this could really prevent this or they get a feeling of this role
quaint bramble
@light edge Im pretty sure asking everyone to type all numbers is not legal
and yeah the censor is a very basic one, but it does reduce gamethrow
there are other ways to accuse ww's '5 is a liar, 5 is bad' for example
light edge
imagine 2 doc claims. me as real doc vs wolf seer claiming doc
I can default to "expose" all wws
he can't write that
he is fully exposed
😂
quaint bramble
yeah i hope there are ways to improve the filter system for sure
sacred sable
Tfw not everyone uses default to call out wolves
floral heath
I know it stops revealing ww numbers but does it stop revealing ww names?
runic dragon
@languid cape with your rules list I don't think you should set a day. Maybe write in a way about a win condition. I'm not sure what the best wording would be.
normal wyvern
Plase don't ignore mine 
runic dragon
@normal wyvern I really like that. We were thrown in the deep end with these new roles.
runic dragon
I end up in #questions because I'm lost about one of the new roles. And not knowing your role can cost you a game.
Can we possibly get a price reduction on the quest shuffle? Or possibly choose for a quest not to appear?
normal wyvern
@lament knoll Could you check mine? https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/664525405440573441
lament knoll
Sure, I'll be on it 
normal wyvern
Thank you very much!
lament knoll
Heyy @normal wyvern
That has indeed basically already been suggested before! 
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/643044799590432788
But it was literally a decade ago so I think I will give it a repost!
Thanks alot for your suggestion it is appreciated
Have a nice evening!
yes I went for the decade pun
normal wyvern
Thank you vewy much!
glad whale
Have it where 2 roles can't be the same as it causes confused, an example is rrv doc and main doc. This has happened to me so many times where i die because rrv had the same role as me
sudden dock
Zombie nerf idea
Make it so when you are zombie you cannot see who you are biting, and there is no chat. This would prevent zombies from spreading alot late game.
rich karma
I would like it if you could decide for yourself whether the badges are visible in the profile or not.
runic dragon
Can guardias ban this guy for selling witch out premisions.
Pls
@runic dragon You have to report him in-game ^^
You can check out #ingame-reports-archieved to know what you can report to a guardian and what you have to report in-game
If you report him in-game, once he get enough reports guardian will check these and judge if he deserve a punishment
craggy dagger
@floral heath @light edge lel I made this point up ages go
The point about filter exploiting
light edge
ye same
cedar onyx
Haii,
Lately I've not been enjoying the game as much anymore cuz the amount of trolls and people who don't know how to play has been increasing. Sandbox used to be my way out- it used to be filled with people who actually know how to properly play the game and we rarely had any trolls or random killers. Though lately all I seem to see is those ppl in sandbox, and ranked is not always better.
So what I want to suggest is putting a new gamemode in the game that is basically sandbox (new roles are awesome), but only people from like level 50 or higher can play it. I think that will make the game much more enjoyable for me and a bunch of others.
craggy dagger
Level=/= not troll
Level very loosely is correlated with playing the game slightly better
The best correlation for players who do not troll is winrate over game volume.
cedar onyx
I always check the trolls their levels- mostly it's 30 or lower
craggy dagger
I’m willing to argue that, but I doubt level restrictions would do much to change the quality of the games
cedar onyx
I think it will, since I don't think the people who only want to troll will keep playing the game for a long time
craggy dagger
You get trolls in ranked gold too unfortunately, and almost none of them are under level 30
That’s a good point though
languid cape
I know 216 level trolls
floral heath
It’s so easy to get to level 30
cedar onyx
At least it will decrease cuz I rlly can't play the game anymore without that kind of ppl
craggy dagger
Then there’s people who think they play much better than they actually play, so whilst they look like a troll, they’re just a noob
floral heath
That’s me
runic dragon
I see Yumis 216 and raise you to 270 troll
cedar onyx
With trolls I mean the people like in last game: they jailed someone (ss) and demanded they call them daddy, then killing em cuz they didnt
Then there's also ppl who apparently don't know the difference between flower child and paci, happened 2 games ago
languid cape
Well the first one is prob a high level troll and the other one is just a low level noob
I had a 100+ level jailer who did the same in ranked
languid cape
Maybe
craggy dagger
Suicide rate is already a better indicator than level, as a suicide rate above 4-5% indicates they don’t like playing as certain roles and just suicide if they get them
You don’t really want to play with people who will just suicide
wind turret
Sorry if this has been said before, I checked recent feedbacks and didn't see it;
Please, remove gambling and bets ads. Though I'm +18 and can play those if I want (I don't know if the ads are shown age based). I'm aware of young people getting gambling addictions, and starting younger, would be nice to not promote it in the WWO app :)
(Don't know if I can send pictures, but I can send a screenshot of a gambling app ad I got)
cedar onyx
@craggy dagger True- Do important roles always seem to suicide in your games, too? Every time I play a game med or doc seems to suicide.
@wind turret I've never gotten them before- I mainly get afk arena ads
cedar onyx
I dunno- I think you can?
wind turret
Let's see OwO
runic dragon
Link you can't send if is not approved for a +Mmod, also the ADs you get is because your AD provider, you can always report them to Google, in the corner of each ADs there's a i button to report.
Wait until a +Helper reply to send image
wind turret
craggy dagger
@cedar onyx not often, I see doc or solo killer roles suicide the most
runic dragon
Well nvm 🤷🏻♂️
wind turret
It's the end of the ad
Sorry, we sent the message at the same time
It says: we give you 10€ to bet in Paf and blah blah blah
craggy dagger
The odd wolf will suicide too, but it doesn’t happen very much at all, I play gold ranked and players mostly try and do their best
runic dragon
You can press there to report the Ad to Google
cedar onyx
I don't like to play ranked since it always takes so long to fill up and the games usually take longer to play due to for example the 3 rrvs. So that's why I'm kinda mad that there are so many noobs in sandbox
craggy dagger
It appears to be region based ads which makes sense, I am 100% supporting gambling ads not showing in WWO
cedar onyx
Me too
craggy dagger
Good players tend to end up playing gold ranked most of the time. So it’s not a surprise to me that the difference between the average skill of a ranked player versus a sandbox player is quite different
wind turret
Well, I'll start reporting them though I doubt Google will do anything, thanks anyways!
cedar onyx
As I see it quick play should be for beginners and ppl who feel the need to troll, sandbox for the decent players and ranked for the good ones. Tho rn it's all noobs (I'm in bronze ranked)
zenith kayak
Hello! Me and @tired spruce were talking in dms about having spectating back in ranked. We brought up what @median elbow and @floral heath had said about having people start as a spectator:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/650788516506238996
Me and Svinq came up with the players not being allowed to be spectator again once they join the game. Of course to avoid accidental joining, theyd have to wait 5 seconds after joining to select an open stop and become a spectator.
This is of course to make it more appealing to those who downvoted the first suggestion, and there would be no chat message from them choosing to not be spectator anymore, to avoid spamming even further^^'
jagged vessel
Well my couple was hh and illu but illu can't kill because she disguise the 13 in the first night so it's like an auto suicide.
My opinion is when something that happen and they couple with the target (for corruptor, bomber, and illu) the action was annulated for being possible to couple win
(my couple was 4 and 13)
sacred sable
Or
Don't attack n1 as illu/bb/corr/arso
languid cape
Thats like saying dont douse n1 as arso?
sacred sable
Yep
zenith kayak
I had suggested that, and Majestical denied it being put into #feedback-devs @jagged vessel
Maybe Hyde~kun can see if she will put it in #feedback-devs
runic dragon
edgy
quiet iron
When Sheriff selects a target and that target commits suicide, Sheriff is unable to select another person. This should not happen.
vague urchin
golden should that not go in bugs?
runic dragon
@quiet iron Hajictan is right, that should go in #bugs-readonly
quiet iron
I don't know if this was a bug, or if it happens to everyone
zenith kayak
@runic dragon @vague urchin I think it's intentional, as the targets you see is the player that suicided and another player
runic dragon
Oh I thought he meant for the entire game, that makes more sense
Yea that’s intentional
vivid blaze
I'm here to seriously report this yet another noob gunner
First he shoots a confirmed detective and then randomly shoots me for no reason
And u know what's funnier? The village praises him instead of reporting him
Further he be like "I shoot who I want"
vivid blaze
@median elbow I'm sick of reporting ig and u should seriously understand with some commonsense that there's a reason why I came here
vague urchin
@zenith kayak I don't get how that can be intentional, when sheriff selects target he has whole night to choose.
if I understood what golden said then if your target to observe is for example 11 and night has like 20 seconds in it. 11 suicides you have lost the ability to observe another player with sheriff, when normally you could move your target freely even if you chose someone to observe it can be changed during the whole night
vivid blaze
For your sake I did report him in game but wait and watch nothing happening
Guardians if you really wanna fix things then go ahead and ban this gamethrower rn.
cedar onyx
Guardians are doing their best, but I can imagine there are a lot of reports per day
vivid blaze
Ffs the problem here is the number of reports
Biased and noob players won't report him for random coz he shot arso
vague urchin
I have already made many gunners shoot by claiming to be aura(fake)
does that make them also reportable for listening to me ?
vivid blaze
The only way to fix it by using what I reported here
vague urchin
I don't find it does
there is a lot of info in chat and one can base his actions on wors of one they chose to trust
vivid blaze
There's a reason why these gunners aren't afraid to random shoot. Coz they know the staff wouldn't do anything against them, further fuelled by biased people not reporting them.
I've often heard this said by the gunners themseleves... "I'll shoot what I want nothing happens"
And furthermore when we come here to report them which technically is the only solution to the problem, all we get here are excuses and lame responses... instead of actually using our message to ban them and solve the problem
quaint bramble
Ok so there is a lot of unaswered feedback here, and a bunch of discussion, please hold on while I try my best to answer all the major suggestions and dont start any more debates for now thanksss
sacred sable
Take your time, Maje.
I got popcorn.
spice summit
I don't know if this is the right place. There is something that really annoys me in the game. I've been playing for a week and i love the game, but there is just one thing that's drives my crazy. You can't use the word hoor in the game, because it gets blurred. But hoor is a very common word in my language (I'm Dutch). Sorry for my bad english. I just needed to tell you guys this and i hope it can get changed :)
quaint bramble
@runic dragon I dont think the ability to make a certain quest not appear is very useful
But maybe we can expand on this idea and turn it into something like a permanent clan boost that reduces the chance of getting already completed quests altogether? This would be buyable with clan money ofc
@glad whale The simple answer: It is supposed to be confusing.
If 2 of the same roles is impossible to be ingame, it severly affects the things you can claim, as soon as one of them dies it is confirmed etc.. it would take away something very important imo.
doc/priest/aura should not be able to tell if they are regular or rrv version of it, also to leave them as claim space for the evil roles.
@sudden dock The devs have denied removing chat for zombies. And i dont really get the 'cant see who you bite' part sorry....
@rich karma heya, could you explain what the benefit of this would be? Do you mean, 'hide all badges' or 'select which ones i show' for example?
@runic dragon Please report rule breakers ingame, we have special staff called guardians who check reports and get people banned.
Discord helpers/mods are not able to ban players in game, so its pointless and a little spammy to post it here.. also I strongly discourage this kind of public naming and shaming of players.
spice summit
Oh sorry in New here. Didnt read that i can't start Any new discusiions. Sorry
sudden dock
The 'cant see who you bite' who remove the factor of the zombies knowing who to bite, and would result in the disease/ team growing as fast as it currently does.
quaint bramble
@cedar onyx heya, new higher level locked modes have been suggested before, but the devs dont really plan on adding these atm, Im sorry. So i know that posting this sort of idea yet again wont do much
@wind turret As Yan explained, the game doesnt directly influence the type of ads show but you can report them to your ad provider.
If its really inappropriate things, it might be possible for the devs to complain to the ad provider as well, but this is way above my knowledge field sadly... I will talk about it with the higher ups to get more clarification on this topic.
sacred sable
Ngl
I don't get an option to report ads on my phone LOL
Can't even report games on playstore for false advertising
median elbow
The current tutorial in game has a rather weird way of teaching people how to play the game.
Issues with the current tutorial:
- It encourages random voting
- It shows an unrealistic playground how players vote since more than one person normally votes someone.
- It shows thinks like the aura, sk, doc, etc. are self learned. It shows the aura seer doesn't exist and everyone is a forkman.
How to fix the tutorial:
- Ingrate 2 dumby AI system with 10 players in a game.
Roles - The players in game will be the standard: Jr ww, normal ww, ww seer, sk, medium, gunner, priest, fool, seer and you as the doctor.
Night 1 - The sk will stab the ww seer
- The ww will attack the gunner
Day 1
- The aura will "X good/bad/unknown"
- The jr ww information "X evil" to cause the confusion - and not the priest
- If there is evil info post the priest will water that player within 3 seconds.
- If the priest dies someone will say "Fool ig X might be the fool"
- The fool will claim medium or doctor
- Nobody will be lynched this day unless the real aura had evil info - evil info will be the ww seer or normal ww, not the jr ww.
Night 2
- The medium will revive the gunner
- The ww will attack the sk
- The sk will stab the player you protected
Day 2
- The gunner will say "X is the medium"
- The gunner will shoot the player that had false information
- The jr ww will be shot and tag the sk
- The real aura will have random information
Night 3
- The fool is killed by the ww
Day 3
- The aura says you are good
- The aura will say X is last and the werewolf
- The gunner will shoot X
Yes I typed out a new tutorial
sudden dock
There was an updated tutorial, it may not be out for your device yet.
median elbow
Yeah but this one sounds better
sudden dock
The new tutorial promotes not voting until there is any information from (you) the seer.
median elbow
It removes random lynching and shows the jr ww should fake aura
vivid blaze
@quaint bramble and @median elbow you planning to respond to me also or are you out of excuses now and trying to ignore it?
median elbow
Report it in game if you don't ofc nothing will be done and that will make them continue to randomly shooting
quaint bramble
@zenith kayak heya i do remember this spectator idea and I personally liked it a lot, i would like it if spetator mode got another chance, so I will post this idea!
vivid blaze
@median elbow I think I just said that I did and always do report them in game also, and already told u to try to understand the reason why I'm here
quaint bramble
Yeah what Kit said.. I am catching up on literal hours of neglect here, please bear with me.
median elbow
@vivid blaze I've been ban as a gunner plenty of times
quaint bramble
I also asked no discussions, let me answer him first when I get to it, thanks.
median elbow
Oof sorry I read over that while typing my tutorial
quaint bramble
@jagged vessel This has been suggested a few times before and its a pretty controversial topic.
I dont exactly support it myself either... It's not fun when this happens but if you play it smart you can choose to avoid it, for example dont bomb/disguise/etc someone who matches your outfit style or dont take action in the first night at all.
@quiet iron heya Im pretty sure this has been suggested before, but once im done typing replies i will check if it was posted to #feedback-devs recently and might give it a repost. I agree it would increase the usefulness of sheriff a lot if you can choose someone else after a suicide or sudden death.
vivid blaze
@median elbow I doubt if it's for the random killing I'm talking about.
And considering you said you've got banned plenty of times kinda means you yourself are a gamethrower/random killer so you shouldn't really be the one answering my question.
median elbow
Define no discussions and no debating.
sacred sable
Maje rn
vivid blaze
Besides we can clearly see how much of a difference the reports are making, and I'm not even talking about fake accs, but real accs who random shoot us and still don't get banned
@median elbow in this context no discussion and no debating seems more like an excuse to run away from the argument but anyways I'll still take your side on it so let me know when you're ready to talk.
sacred sable
quaint bramble
@vivid blaze I appreciate your feedback but you do make us repeat the same stuff a lot. You can get mad about it once again but you should report them ingame, even if you think it is ineffective. The amount of people who join this server daily to complain about their ban beg to differ. And once again, in a more extreme case you can message a Guardian yourself. They definately dont waste their already precious time on checking this server for rants and reports and you know this very well.
You are not offering any actual suggestions right now so I'll do the thinking myself, I guess.
What do you think about an auto report for gunners, under certain circumstances such as shooting 2 good roles in one match or shooting a revived/revealed player?
It's hard to think of way to catch a gunner who random shoots solo/ww roles, I agree this is something that would not be reported as much. I remember your previous feedback about putting a timer on the 2nd day shoot as well, and back then I replied this seems too restrictive for legit players. But using the bullet within the first 10 seconds of voting day 1 and discussion day 2 could maybe be used to trigger a warning message about random killing, visible for the whole chat or something like that?
And thanks for the little personal attack at the end there, I see you still have such respect for what we do here... I genuinely only asked for 'no discussions' in this one specific moment, because, as I already explained and you can see it happening right now, I am dealing with hours and hours of unreplied feedback. Less discussions and arguments to moderate at the bottom, meant i could get to everyone without distractions and/or ideas getting lost in the flood.
median elbow
@quaint bramble can you include shooting a good player day 1 and 2. 3 and 4 can cause good players to be shot.
Shooting a revived good player and a revealed good player should result in an auto ban
I support this
rich karma
@quaint bramble select whitch ones!
quaint bramble
@spice summit Heya I know Dutch too and I know it's a harmless word in this language. But that doesnt change the fact that it is very similar to a nasty english word, and also to its dutch translation. So it is censored with a good reason.
I dont know exactly how the filter system works, I dont know if it is possible to uncensor it only in dutch games, but I will pass it on to a higher staff for discussion.
However, I want to add my personal opinion, that the word 'hoor' does not really have much meaning, it can be avoided pretty easily and it wouldnt ruin your game to just not use it..
And dont worry about the no discussion thing I said, that means talking about the same feedback by multiple people, and I only asked this because the channel was very busy, its not a real rule here
@sudden dock So you basically mean, that you can only see your own zombie vote? So you could end up biting the same player together with others, instead of all going different ways?
Would the message 'x could not be bitten' also only show up to yourself, or still to all zombies?
Could you please resubmit this feedback, including the things mentioned above? I will post it if you can write it up solidly yourself.
spice summit
Oh ok. Thanks for your reaction. I understand why it's censored. I use it like a lot. But i will just have to stop using it or use it like: ho or in the future. I really appreciate your response. And everyone is so kind here omg :)
quaint bramble
@rich karma Ok, but I also asked for a bit more motivation on your idea..
It seems like a very little thing, and not many people have multiple badges. So I want to know why you think this is useful at all, promote/advertise your idea to me, to the people who would read it in #feedback-devs
sudden dock
Sure, and i should remove the part that said that there should be no zombie chat?
spice summit
@quaint bramble thanks again and bye
quaint bramble
@sudden dock Yes I suggest to drop that part, cause thats been explicitly denied by Emanual himself in the past
sudden dock
Got it
quaint bramble
@spice summit No problem, thanks a lot for your patience and understanding
vivid blaze
Excuse me but I think I did give hundreds and hundreds of suggestions earlier to help solve random killing but all I got was pointless excuses to turn them down. Anyways I'm not gonna waste my time on reminding u of them.
I was talking with RGTube only anyways and didn't mean to interrupt your thing. I'm sorry if I seemed rude at the end but it's honesty. I do have respect for you guys but even if I don't you guys hardly respect us anyways. Even until now all you're doing is just making excuses and changing the topic instead of actually solving the problem using my message to check the username to ban the gunner who gamethrew. I'm sorry but I do know we can message guardians. Like I said there's a reason why I'm here which is because I can hardly figure out who the guardians even are. They change so rapidly and when texted barely anyone responds.
So yeah... before judging us plz think twice about the reason why we're here. If you wanna solve the problem you can easily copy paste my message and send it to the guardians who you know much better than me which literally takes a few seconds.
And lastly I say again... there's a reason why I'm here. If you're just gonna tell me the obvious to report them ig (which I even do) then its total time waste. If your solutions barely/don't even work, it's not a solution.
sudden dock
Zombie nerf idea
Make it so when you are zombie you cannot see who you are biting. This would create a slower rate of team spread as the game moves further.
Example:
There are now 2 zombies and they are feasting this night. The zombies do not see who the other is biting, and they decide to bite the same player without knowing. The chat would read "x was bitten last night", and would only have 1 message.
As the game goes on and more zombies are turned, more and more villagers will be bitten more than once, slowing down the process, as it is very fast at the moment.
novel fable
quaint bramble
@vivid blaze If you still say, that all I do is give the same excuses then i have clearly wasted my time on that wall of text reply since I wrote back a suggestion and asked for your input, and you give me exactly none.
I don't recall every single of your visits here in detail but most of them revolved around account verification etc, which is a closed topic for sure, and indeed one that isnt gonna change.
If you want to know who the guardians are, if that's such a big problem toyou then heck just ask, there is a very easy way to find out. #ingame-reports-archieved has them all listed, you dont need us to do that lil command trick to summon the list ^^
median elbow
@quaint bramble never relied to my new tutorial
quaint bramble
@novel fable I'm sorry your idea was overlooked, I didnt know the unanswered stuff went back that far.
I'm sorry but I find the edited images a bit confusing...
Is this notification meant to be showing up when you are not yet in the app, or while you are actually in a match as well etc..? Im not a big fan of using the phone notifs for this, instead of having this stay inside the game, since thats more complicated and prone to bugs tbh.
How will the inviting player be notified you responded like this?
I find 'ask to wait' very vague, the message could be more engaging like 'i'll be there in a few mins!' or saying that you are still in a match.
novel fable
in the lobby, first pic
sudden dock
Did you find anything when looking into the booster feedback? @pallid merlin
sudden dock
Have custom voting hands been suggested?
runic dragon
I've seen voting hands were suggested b4 not sure if in dev's tho🤔 🤔
I know for sure I have seen boards be a suggestion
Dont see hands tho prob blind tho
quaint bramble
@sudden dock Probably.. dont know if it was posted too, but Im kind of against it
Voting hands and voting signs are basic features of the game that should stay clear andeasily visible
sudden dock
I was thinking of voting signs in the bp, and they would be made by designers and could be part of offers... or maybe voting sign packs. The player you were voting would remain visible.
quaint bramble
@median elbow The pink bg tutorial is literally already an old tutorial... there is a newwer one which actually looks like a game lobby, with only 4 players.
it's still very basic but it at least visualizes the game, and gets across basic seer decensy and doc mechanism.
In the future maybe it will get expanded to more roles, but its a very time consuming process and im not sure its high on the dev's list at all... a feedback about this was also posted just earlier today as well
you also included some ranked exclusive stuff and i think you painted a too complicated picture there for a beginners tutorial, and the devs wouldnt straight up copy your match play anyway
modest pebble
This involves cupid & corruptor/arsonist/bomber. I don’t know how to suggest this change but I’m sure devs can figure it out as it’s quite complicated since the changes affects something else such as Cupid knowing who is Arsonist/Bomber/Corrupter.
My feedback is to change the lovers automatically if the mentioned solo roles above tags their lover first night.
pine jacinth
player should just make ranking game ONCE with their account and keep playing from season to season based on their previous rank
allowing some clown to get +60 just by getting carried is bringing some bomb into gold league
potent wing
Can write here serious problem about the cult?
opaque pollen
@potent wing There's The Sandbox Server for that 👍
potent wing
Thanks m8!!
median elbow
@quaint bramble it teaches a series of things, ww should fake something. Fool should try to get lynched, water evil info fast in a Jr game, not to random lynch, etc. It showed a standard "logic based" game
4 is to small. 3 days/nights is a good number. It was a basic scenario were the village always wins.
median elbow
Hh suggestion I thought of that can cause the hh to not actually reveal their target day 1.
If the hh target dies besides via lynching the hh will commit suicide, however you will still win with the village if the village pulls out a win.
floral heath
@median elbow that just confirms the HH if their target dies, they can’t lie about that anymore. Doesn’t stop people from claiming day 1, after all their target must die for them to win.
runic dragon
if they die at the same time as their target they still win, don’t they?
median elbow
At the current stay if you die at the same time you don't win
floral heath
@runic dragon it depends. Like if SK stabs your target before WW kills you same night then you win/lose with Village but other way around you lose I think
median elbow
That's true
floral heath
Or like you and your target are marked by bomber and the bomb explodes upwards it depends on who gets bombed first even if you both die at the same time
median elbow
The only thing it affects ifbif the ww kill your target they kill 2 players for the price of one
floral heath
Or maybe if the HH target is still alive, the target dies with the HH
runic dragon
your suggestion does not solve the problem you pointed out
worn zinc
floral heath
But if hh is like shot by gunner he still loses (but his target still dies with him)
floral heath
He still wins if his target dies before him
runic dragon
👀
floral heath
So if his target gets shot he will commit suicide in @median elbow suggestion but he still wins with Village because the target dies first
runic dragon
^
median elbow
Hh games cause more village wins. Fool games is where the ww have a better chance at winning.
If the ww kill the hh target it helps the ww team. This are minor things to nerf the village with hh games
runic dragon
i prob misunderstood sth a while back nvm
it does not stop hh from revealing target d1
median elbow
That's true but that doesn't stop the ww killing the hh target night 2 essentially double dipping
floral heath
True he can still win by revealing target d1 only the killers can make use of the HH and their target both dying at the same time
runic dragon
you’re saying hh revealing target day 1 is a problem which needs to be fixed. and then gives a suggestion which does not help the situation in any way
it’s irrelevant to hh already
median elbow
Hh can still reveal the target that's a fact
floral heath
I think @median elbow suggestion is supposed to make the first day reveal have little to no benefit for the Village by giving a consequence to when HH or his target dies
runic dragon
Hh suggestion I thought of that can cause the hh to not actually reveal their target day 1.
floral heath
It doesn’t stop it, it just stops the Village from benefitting from it
runic dragon
^
median elbow
That's what a mean. A consequence if you reveal your target
runic dragon
it provides no incentive for hh to not reveal his target. he still wins. i bet 9 out of 10 players don’t mind dying if they win
floral heath
Me included lol
runic dragon
“preventing hh from revealing target d1” is not a legit reason for your suggestion
median elbow
Yeah I worded it incorrectly. I meant a slight consequence if you reveal your target
runic dragon
slight
i’m just saying if it’s your solution to prevent hh from revealing their target it’s not valid.
median elbow
It was also to balance the hh out to be more like the fool
Fool games are op. Hh games aren't
dreamy burrow
Its a 3v1. Hh, 2 villagers and a ww alive. Ww stabs hh target. 2 people die and wws win.
Strange no?
median elbow
That's a fair play. It's like killing the sect leader
Or cupid's couple
There's not enough suicide in WWO anyways...
floral heath
Nothing wrong with that, it’s also most likely a lose if that was fool instead of hh @dreamy burrow
runic dragon
if you think about it it’s unreasonable...
headhunter lost his target and commited suicide!
i can understand couple. sl. but not this logic
floral heath
The hh is depressed because he couldn’t lynch his target commits suicide
median elbow
The headhunter failed to lynch his target and committed suicide
floral heath
His target feels bad commits suicide
median elbow
No if they attack the hh then it's a bad play by the ww team. Just like if they kill the fool. It's a bad play by the ww team if this happens
runic dragon
👀
floral heath
I still prefer the suggestion where the HH is still solo when his target dies but he has to live to win and can choose any team to win if it comes to it like a survivor
runic dragon
^
floral heath
But @median elbow suggestion is creative good job
median elbow
I should probably reword it and remove the whole prevent he hh from revealing their target thing
median elbow
The fool is a role that commonly helps the ww get wins much easier. The hh however normally causes the ww to lose mist if the time.
Hh nerf/ww buff:
If the hh target dies besides via lynching the hh will commit suicide, however you will still win with the village if the village wins.
Suicide message: The headhunter failed to lynch his target and committed suicide
Reasons why this is a good change:
- This nor discourages or encourages the hh to reveal their target day 1.
- If the hh target is killed the ww will be double dipping and getting a double kill, but the hh will still have an opportunity to win with the village
- The werewolf team has worse luck with a headhunter already. Fool games are much easier to win as a werewolf.
mortal crag
MENNNNNNNNNN
median elbow
@runic dragon @floral heath how's this
mortal crag
median elbow
@mortal crag it's an intentional feature, the hh target was originally a village. The got converted by the ww kitten.
The double dipping reason?
runic dragon
yes. it was never strategic to kill a hh
median elbow
You'd be surprised what happened in bronze league when I had 200 skill points earlier this week
floral heath
200? Where’s the proof!!
runic dragon
i don’t really see how it’s a good reason but ok
median elbow
And it explains hh still has a chance to win in the same reason
Once we are finished discussing I'm gonna send the final version and make it the nist recent message in this channel
The fool is a role that commonly helps the ww get wins much easier. The hh however normally causes the ww to lose mist if the time.
Hh nerf/ww buff:
If the hh target dies besides via lynching the hh will commit suicide, however you will still win with the village if the village wins.
Suicide message: The headhunter failed to lynch his target and committed suicide
Reasons why this is a good change:
- This nor discourages or encourages the hh to reveal their target day 1. Revealing a real target makes it so the hh has one way to win only. Being dead and praying. Not revealing a target ensures him and his target are alive and 2 win possibilites are possible.
- If the hh target is killed the ww will be double dipping and getting a double kill, but the hh will still have an opportunity to win with the village.
- The werewolf team has worse luck with a headhunter already. Fool games are much easier to win as a werewolf.
cedar onyx
My target often dies 1st or 2nd night though, so this would be rlly annoying
meager schooner
Hi
Even though I didn't vote randomly. I'm banned. I'm putting money into this game.
runic dragon
@meager schooner If you think your ban wan unfair you can DM one of the guardians, in #ingame-reports-archieved you have a list with all of them.
well, just dm artemiis she gave the ban 👀
^
brave folio
I dont know did the player give her feedback to here. But it seems she didnt 
A player suggest us to make an .exe file to help play WWO on PC 
it will be more convenient then playing on PC through emulators 
woeful mesa
Hi, for the last feedback devs, to complete this nerf, would it be possible so that there isn't a zombie chat at night? Or else the zombie will just say who they will visit and the nerf won't be really effective
mortal crag
Yes i agree. ^
mighty granite
@woeful mesa Hey, I think removing zombie chat is suggested a lot, but doesn't get remove any times. So maybe this wouldn't be good either. Thanks for suggesting though. 🤔
sacred sable
Role favoritism
rose wigeon
Maybe you could add where you can use about 2,000 coins to decrease the exp in the clan quest now It got 6,000 exp maybe use 2,000 coins to make it to 4,000 exp maybe? Cause some clan got low member
twilit haven
Hi! The word censoring works really weird ways.
I was singing in the lobby with some friends (not in game) the lyrics of "Partenaire Particulier", and the world "banalité" got censored and "anal" was removed, leaving the word "b****ite" which is a vulgar term for male genitals in french
ebon knot
And how is( Nowadays) censored
runic dragon
They removed the condition you need to like that weird message in order to post here?
Nice
I'd like to propose a mandatory survey for players in order to be able to play ranked. If ranked is supposed to be the "serious players" game modes, why is there people who don't even know what an rrv is? What's the sense of it? It's basically like quick game but with skill points, a ranking system...
It's been a while now since ranked is only getting worse season by season. If the tier system keeps matching players only by silver/gold, it won't get any better...
The silent aura issue shouldn't be a thing in ranked, for instance. Just naming an obvious one. Therefore, not sharing info as aura should be reportable.
The current system states it's okay to ban a gunner who shoots an unclaimed rrv/doc/whatever, but I haven't seen a single silent potato getting banned for hiding vital information, which most of the times it's pretty much gamethrowing.