feedback-readonly

[soft falcon]

Makes the nights go faster in my coffin

[quaint bramble]

I think we're fighting for the same thing here so agree to wrap it up here for now?

[soft falcon]

Dw we're not fighting, just chatting to make the best out of everyone's ideas

Plus ppl will read and comeback with their own opinion

(Gtg sleep anyways :c)

[quaint bramble]

yep I've seen quite a few people with concerns about lobby jumping, completely seperately, so it seems to be an increasing problem. even after we removed the spectate function from ranked :(

[soft falcon]

Yea that was a required starting point sadly

[vestal ginkgo]

I was not even on the game and got banned for game throwing!!!

[runic dragon]

you might want to contact a guardian to dispute your ban

[quaint bramble]

@vestal ginkgo When was the last time you played?

reports take some time to get checked

[vestal ginkgo]

Earlier today. But I dont game throw

[quaint bramble]

Well if you;re sure you didnt, you can ask the guardians to show you the examples of what you did

[runic dragon]

How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your in-game name and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

• Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980) :flag_vn:
• Alisonn => [AFK] @naive whale (Alisonn_x_Suxal#4655) :flag_ca: :flag_fr:
• Boy => @arctic nova (@BoyHanQuoc#6473) :flag_vn:
• Oliver => @elder dew (@Oliver#8960) :flag_de:
• Renard => @snow ruin (@Renard_eau#9157) :flag_fr:
• Catjojo => @hollow hinge (@catjojo|Jenn|#7139) :flag_de:
• Artemiis => @sharp cedar (@Artemiis#9648) :flag_fr: :flag_es: :flag_nl: :flag_de: :flag_it:
• SionnY => @dreamy vortex (@SionnY#2590) :flag_th:

[quaint bramble]

you can message one of them and ask
except for Alisonn she is afk

[spare tundra]

Sandbox mode should have level restriction. Too many newbies trolling around. Make it at least level 20 to play sandbox mode.

[runic dragon]

hey hey, a feedback with similar functions has been posted already
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651550914389344258
you might want to check this out ^

[lament knoll]

@spare tundra what Setto said and I'll add a +1 onto the database for you, thanks for your feedback, even duplicate suggestions can be of use so we can see which ideas get suggested with frequency :3
Have a nice night/day 'n enjoy the rest of the holidays💕

[tidal monolith]

I’m gonna repost this with a change to the number of wins

Can u guys make it another condition to get into gold to have at least >450 wins in total at least cos I’ve seen players with 80 wins in gold

[median elbow]

I've seen people with 40 wins enter gold league...

[quaint bramble]

450 is a bit of an odd number... personally I would rather put a suicide score limit on ranked first

[median elbow]

Suicide score?

If you suicide you're ban forever

[quaint bramble]

Like cant play ranked unless you have under 10% suicide.. preferably even lower

[median elbow]

Well most people have 1% suicides since they may not like 1 certain role

[quaint bramble]

Though if you had some rough edgy quickgame phase where you suicide as doc or hh all the time, you might be working a long time to undo that

[median elbow]

Or 9%

[tidal monolith]

Ay I say the wins matter cos this would reduce number of people with less basic knowledge on game in gold league

[median elbow]

I mean 40 wins determines that you are worthy enough to enter gold league

(But let's ignore those 40 suicides and 163 losses)

[runic dragon]

@median elbow there’s no absolute rule to determine whether someone is worthy to go to gold
People get carried all the time

[tidal monolith]

Gold supposed to be hard to get in

[median elbow]

Not gold exclusively. I mean ranked in general

[tidal monolith]

They alr have 35 wins for ranked

A requirement

[median elbow]

Hell ranked is where I learned how I learned to get better.

[runic dragon]

35 wins in quick game is enough. Besides the roles in ranked and quick game are vastly different anyway. If you’re going to give another limit, don’t add it as the requirement to get in ranked. It’s not effective

[median elbow]

But slowly introducing new players to gold league would set the balance to teach them strategies. Gold league honestly just teaches people the advaced basics

[runic dragon]

if you want to improve gameplay in gold. you need to start from silver

[median elbow]

Why silver? Did y'all forget bronze league exist?

[runic dragon]

bronze league = silver games

its just always seer and det nothing else

[tidal monolith]

Bronze silver same thing

[median elbow]

But they are different leagues. Period

No

[runic dragon]

there’s no “bronze games”

[median elbow]

They are 2 different league above and below one another

[runic dragon]

but they play in the same lobbies, you get me?

silvers n bronzes play in silver lobbies. that’s it

[median elbow]

Are you sure?

Because I'm pretty sure the game and pregame lobby acknowledges that you are bronze league, the roles are the same but it will acknowledge the people you are playing with

[runic dragon]

they just have the same setup

[quaint bramble]

Uhm.. how is this still relevant to feedback?

[runic dragon]

we’re supposedly arguing about how ranked works🤔

[quaint bramble]

same roles, but it's a different league, thats the facts

But I really dont see the relevance.

[median elbow]

Same set up # same league
They are the different leagues. With the same setup.

People forget bronze exist. Perhaps making everyone start with 0 skill at the start of the season will fix ranked. You will need to grow from bronze to silver to gold

[runic dragon]

so you want people to get 1700 skill points from nothing?

[median elbow]

And if you're going to limit people to 450 games in silver league what about bronze?

[quaint bramble]

I agree that sounds kinda ridiculous

[runic dragon]

it’s not even realistic

[tidal monolith]

I said 450 in gold not silver

[median elbow]

To get into gold is what you said right?

[tidal monolith]

Ye

[quaint bramble]

why 450 though? It such a strange number, why not 200 or 500?

[tidal monolith]

Well u can decide

[runic dragon]

if it’s 450 ranked games in total it’d sound better

[quaint bramble]

or 50/100 games in silver before being able to cross the 1700 treshold

[runic dragon]

or maybe it’s too much.

[tidal monolith]

My suggestion was just to put a number of wins as a condition to get into gold

Cos people getting into gold too easy rn

[quaint bramble]

I personally like the idea of increasing it to 2000, a small but solid start

[runic dragon]

if i can add to that, ranked wins

[median elbow]

Yes and I was saying maybe there should be a limit to get into each league. Not gold exclusively. Bronze would need the initially 40 wins. Bronze to Silver would need 60 ranked wins. And Silver to Gold would need 450 ranked wins

I like to think about everyone including bronze/silver

[runic dragon]

the current 35 wins is enough

for bronze

[median elbow]

Who know what type of drama and rivalries they have going on right now....

[quaint bramble]

so you would start in bronze and somehow have to win 60 games there to get higher? That sounds kinda cruel almost

[runic dragon]

if it’s in total/including past seasons then mkay

[median elbow]

Including past seasons I assume is what zoom meant

[tidal monolith]

Ye

In total

[runic dragon]

to conclude, this will only benefit old players and new players will struggle playing ranked

[quaint bramble]

well if someone is new to ranked, then the in total amount is whatever you are suggesting right now

[median elbow]

So zoom what about iincluding a bronze to silver option too.

[tidal monolith]

U decide on the silver and bronze option

I mainly only care about gold league

[runic dragon]

i don’t think the bronze to silver transaction would need too many wins. they have the same setup, just with different players

[quaint bramble]

And, if we look at the technical aspects, the system does not keep track of wins per league at the moment.
So whenever this gets implemented, you all start fresh.

[median elbow]

I'd say 60 games to make it 100 wins in total.

[quaint bramble]

There is no log of 'past seasons' wins per league

[median elbow]

And Town of Salem has a ranked practice mode where you are required to get I think 50 "quick play" wins then 10 practice wins, then you can play with everyone in a ranked layout.

[quaint bramble]

Yep a practise mode has come up a few times and is still an idea I do believe in

It gives people some familiarity with the ranked excuse roles

[runic dragon]

bronze league and this “practice mode” seems to have the same function for me

[quaint bramble]

This mode would be something before you enter ranked, not once you get stuck at the bottom

[runic dragon]

ngl since bronze and silver = same layout i find bronze to be a “practice” for silver

[median elbow]

Make them practice in bronze league 40 times

[plain hollow]

I mean anyone can get a lucky bronze win during placement games and fly all the way to silver/gold

[runic dragon]

meh. placements aren’t fair from the start with old players dominating them

[quaint bramble]

you start in silver and i believe it takes about 2-3 placement wins at least to enter gold, if i remember correctly

[median elbow]

Yeah just look at me getting lucky

[quaint bramble]

And I also agree the current placement system isnt rlly doing its job all that fairly and efficiently

[median elbow]

@quaint bramble they should have 40 practice games in bronze then they can advance to the "big leagues" and fight to be on top

placement game
wins as villager 3 times
Noice

[runic dragon]

what happened to that suggestion where det games players stay in det game at the start of the season? rejected?

[quaint bramble]

Yeah Im not sure what the staff/dev feedback on that was but I have a feeling it wasnt very desirable

[median elbow]

What about the top 500 players (potentially 600) players are gold league.

[plain hollow]

I like that idea. Like players who are proven good should remain in gold

@median elbow yea somethigg like that

[median elbow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/648692421114200075

This

[quaint bramble]

It's kind of a headstart for the highscores, unless they would get reset back to 1700

[median elbow]

reset everyone to 0 is an okay alternative

Or 500 perhaps...

[runic dragon]

if good players get a head start then they won’t get paired with newer players. placement unfairness solved.

[median elbow]

Make everyone start in bronze hell

[quaint bramble]

Yeah that suggestion is not the same as resetting people to gold or something, and the problem is that its just weirdly complicated and unclear...

[median elbow]

Or we can report all noobs and start a manual reclassing system based around reports

[quaint bramble]

@runic dragon I could repost something like that, but I require concrete numbers and definitions.
Which players get to keep their gold league, what sp/rank do they need for that?
And what sp will they get in the new season?

[median elbow]

Players? Like which player names get to stay gold league?

[plain hollow]

Why not let the TOP 1000 players remain in gold. So like these TOP 1000 of previous season gets to start with 1700sp. Then the other players start like how it currently is.

[quaint bramble]

No, like is it the top 2000, or everyone with 3k+ sp etc

I think a sp based rule is better than a rank one, because people around the bottom of that list could have literally the same sp score

[median elbow]

Maybe if you are level 30 you will have placement games enabled for you. If you are below that you will have the default game settings enabled

[plain hollow]

@quaint bramble 2000/above 3k is fine by me as well

[median elbow]

Level doesn't determine skill O agree but level determines knowledge and how well you know werewolf online

[runic dragon]

@quaint bramble players over 3.5 k+ sp in the past season, head start at 1.7k (directly to det games)

[quaint bramble]

And please do consider bronze/silver as well, everyone below 1000-1200 sp gets put in bronze?

I do wanna make clear, if this gets implemented, I think it should take effect after that season.
So if it were to be added now, it wouldnt affect the upcoming season yet, but the end results uf upcoming season will kick off this system in the next season.

[median elbow]

Here's a concept. Apply for gold league (or ranked in general) by taking a test on how well you know the app. If you get 85% of the questions correct you are eligible to play in gold leagues. The questions can be hard one too. Not any of these common sense questions. It will prove if someone is ready to play in ranked.

And make it have a lot of questions not 6

[quaint bramble]

This is really a comletely different approach to what we were talking about, and I dont wanna take this in consideration right now...

This kinda thing is way too easy, someone will have the answers posted online within an hour

Doesnt work at all

[plain hollow]

So right now what’s being discussed with the devs( I hope) are:

• Changing the placement systems
• Increasing sp to get into gold
• Possible creation of new league

?

[median elbow]

Add a 10 seconds time limit to answer questions. Make it so you can only take this test every 3 days. This will make people lazy and decrease the chances to answer these questions

[plain hollow]

@median elbow Don’t think that’s gonna work honestly

[median elbow]

Maybe players can submit unique questions in game and players can vote on them.

Simple solutions to simple questionnaires

[plain hollow]

Gold shouldn’t be for people who know the basics. They should at least bring some skill to the table. Like at least claim something as ww and not staying silent

[quaint bramble]

@plain hollow I don't know how actively they are working on this but the second 2 are definately mentioned to the devs directly.
The placement system would be something I am gonna post in #feedback-devs again now.

[plain hollow]

Okay I see

[quaint bramble]

@median elbow Thank you for your effort but I really, really dont think quizzes are a reliable or professional placement system.

[median elbow]

It's not a placement system it's an unlocking system. You unlock the ability to play in ranked

Whole different topic

[quaint bramble]

Your example question already had at least 1 completely obviously wrong answer, and already sparked some'what if' questions that would make it inaccurate..

shaman ingame makes it possible that arso and ww show equal team

Quiz questions would need to be at least triple checked and proofread

[median elbow]

That question is obviously easy all existing questions are simple. I am talking about user submitting and some complex questions

[quaint bramble]

Well my opinion wont change right now, I think it's a very unprofessional and inaccurate way of getting this done

[median elbow]

What is the universal detective text-like symbol?
A. =/=
B. #
C. $
D. doesn't equal

2 obvious possible answers but the universal symbol is #

[runic dragon]

it's not a good question if you're gonna ask it. no one really cares what symbol you use in your info as long as you convey the meaning

[median elbow]

How should you play as a preist

1. Pray and spray to test your luck
2. Water the seer
3. Water an evil player
4. Water the arsonist to make him lose a turn

[quaint bramble]

Yup, like I said, this method just won't work out Imo.

[runic dragon]

watering a confirmed evil is not a legit move especially in fool games

[quaint bramble]

your examples are rather proving my point than convincing me otherwise

[runic dragon]

the more examples you give the more i disagree with the questions...

[median elbow]

Community created questions. There can be obvious and challenging questions

And even trick questions

[quaint bramble]

Ok time to get blunt... I said no, and I explained why. Not changing.

[runic dragon]

some questions can have multiple answers. it's always dependent on the situation

[queen dagger]

Add a world chat so that we can chat and add more friends to play with

We can also check their profile that way

I just wanted to chat :)

🙂

[bitter bloom]

Can report players here too?

With screenshot

[runic dragon]

eh, no ^^

You can report them ig

[bitter bloom]

Ok

[quaint bramble]

@bitter bloom For some extreme things like racism or very inappropriate chat you can report with screenshots, but you should definately always report ingame too, so the staff can see the full game chat.

[bitter bloom]

He was racist so thats why i have screenshots

[runic dragon]

Did you report him ig?

[bitter bloom]

Yeah

[quaint bramble]

Then yes you can send it to a guardian, you can find the list and some more info about reporting in #ingame-reports-archieved

Artemiis and Sionny are currently online.

[bitter bloom]

Thanks for help!

[flint atlas]

As a det It would be usefull if it also told the numbers of the players and not only the names.

[quaint bramble]

@flint atlas Already been suggested very recently; check this one out
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/658080382415142923

Ooh I just noticed, Emanuel approved of it too

[graceful skiff]

Maybe make tie games lose less skill points or nothing at all?
Because some Jww would cancel his tag on a solo killer in 1v1 situation because he only lose the almost same as losing when tie. So less gamethrowing.

[runic dragon]

whether the jr tags sk is his choice ^^’ it’s not gamethrowing

besides, if you put it this way:

everyone lost the game
it means everyone loses sp respectively to their role, i don’t see any problem with it

[raven mulch]

In where I can Report The Game throwing?!

[runic dragon]

report in game or to a guardian if it’s serious

[forest rover]

@graceful skiff why do you think not tagging sk/arso as jww in a 1vs1 is gamethrowing?👀

[raven mulch]

How I Can Ask Guardian?

[runic dragon]

How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your in-game name and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

• Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980) :flag_vn:
• Alisonn => [AFK] @naive whale (Alisonn_x_Suxal#4655) :flag_ca: :flag_fr:
• Boy => @arctic nova (@BoyHanQuoc#6473) :flag_vn:
• Oliver => @elder dew (@Oliver#8960) :flag_de:
• Renard => @snow ruin (@Renard_eau#9157) :flag_fr:
• Catjojo => @hollow hinge (@catjojo|Jenn|#7139) :flag_de:
• Artemiis => @sharp cedar (@Artemiis#9648) :flag_fr: :flag_es: :flag_nl: :flag_de: :flag_it:
• SionnY => @dreamy vortex (@SionnY#2590) :flag_th:

contact one of these guardians ^

only if it’s serious though.

[graceful skiff]

Oh okay nvm lol
Maybe this next feedback

Maybe add an option to mark players their possible role like in Sudoku? You will only see it yourself and not the other players. So you can easily track their claims if they are fake or not. (It can also help you count rrvs in game)
The marked role will be seen at the role position and will be slightly blurred until the player is revealed by paci/fortune teller/dying.

[quaint bramble]

@graceful skiff This is a fairly common suggestion and the answer is always no.

We want people to pay attention to the game, and allow others to make use of the people who dont

marking roles or other in-game note systems are an unfair advantage and a way to make it too easy

@raven mulch heya next time please use the #questions channel 👀
report gamethrowing in the game, so the guardians can read the full chat log when they check the reports ^^

[modest pebble]

Dev needs to make better graveyard than the 💩 and the 🐷 outfit. Better as in same category but much more cooler lol

[quaint bramble]

@modest pebble Graveyard, outfit? I do not understand what you are saying at all :/

[modest pebble]

I mean make poop/skeleton kind of graveyard more.
And make cute outfits like the pig-bacon more.

[quaint bramble]

We dont really post avatar ideas in feedback.. if you got any specific suggeststions, you can try talking to the designers in #avatar-ideas

What gets added to the game, is what gets made there

[light edge]

@lament knoll wait so the reports are connected to the name?
why not connect the reports to the player Id?

[pine jacinth]

can we , stop being matched with 2.6k player in ranke when we have like almost 4k please ?

some game are just non sense coinflip

[quaint bramble]

That would require a platinum league to actually exist I think, this suggestion has been going around lately. I cant say for sure if it will get added, only the devs know that kinda stuff :/

[sacred sable]

How do you even know that the player has that many points when you can't check profiles in ranked anyways?

[runic dragon]

looking up profile in friends tab after the game

i do that a lot ngl

[sacred sable]

Is it bad I find that a little creepy?

[runic dragon]

it's ok to feel scared

[flint atlas]

I know this is kinda nitpicking but: In #welcome-to-wolvesville the bot says react with 👍 in rules. But actually you have to react with . Could be changed for more clarity.

[zealous raven]

dear wwo, please add Indonesian server, thanks

[astral spruce]

All informer roles should get to keep seeing what they see in morning time as well.
"Why?" you will ask. I will say : If you need to check the chat to figure out who to check but it takes around 20 seconds, and when you click on the person and waiting for the role/result to show up POOF morning begins and you can't see it.

[humble elbow]

Find a way to prevent clan targeting

[light edge]

@humble elbow hiding clan tag is a thing

[humble elbow]

Meh

[quaint bramble]

@humble elbow And by that he doesnt just mean ask your clan leader to remove it, you can actually hide it yourself as player ^^
I must admit idk 100% where or if its indeed avaialble yet

@zealous raven if you would like a new language server you should contact a mod I think ^^

[humble elbow]

Mom’s not gonna hide it

[quaint bramble]

@astral spruce A very similar idea recently got approved by one of the devs so I think this will already be solved, read about it here;
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/658080382415142923

[runic dragon]

Hey, can we remove Santa from game?
I'm just saying because people were being mean when I claimed Santa like "Christmas is over mf" so ye

[quaint bramble]

@runic dragon It will probably be removed soon, I dont think the devs need to be reminded of that ^^

[runic dragon]

Okay

[astral spruce]

@quaint bramble I'm boutta POOF because I feel like a copy cat now.

Santa is just created to say "I'm Santa I will "ho ho ho" at 20 seconds left to morning. @runic dragon

lol basicaly self proving role

[night path]

Hi, not sure if this has been suggested before but I like how we can go on do not disturb to stop getting invites is there a way we could disable friend requests? I get alot and it's really lagging out my game 😅

I love how im suggesting something as helper

Hi there @night path , something similiar to this has been suggested quite recently regarding accepting/declining friend requests: Here - https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/655872568334483507 and here: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/631736392401289216 However, disabling recieving friend requests hasn't been suggested (as i can see in the last 6months) so this could be considered, thanks

||why did i full on help my own request-||

[runic dragon]

The Marksman shooting sound should be a bow and arrow instead of a gun noise like the gunner and jailer

[median elbow]

Look at #sound-ideas too
@runic dragon

[runic dragon]

I thought I already took the survey, but it’s letting me anyway

[astral spruce]

Love Envelopes

Coupled players can send each other 'love envelopes' once per a game. Love envelopes can be used for any reason, strategy or otherwise. Cupid can view love envelopes but can't respond to them.

[astral spruce]

Kitten Werewolf can Convert Sect Members

Kitten Werewolf can convert Sect Members and it creates an over-powered person who knows all teams (Sect Leader, Wolves & Town). People who is sected shouldn't be converted.

[quaint bramble]

That was only a bug on release and afaik its been/being fixed now

thats what sandbix is for, we find things that dont work and get them changed ^^

[astral spruce]

okay gud

we dont have to see Coupled, Sect Member Werewolves anymore

[quaint bramble]

And the love envelope idea... I dont really see the point, sorry

[astral spruce]

couple chat

but for once

and cupid can view

[quaint bramble]

its a bit complicated to write messages to eachother when you;re already doing your job as med, jailer, ww etc

[astral spruce]

for example : you are wwb coupled with doctor and you tell them to not protect anyone because you will activate frenzy

[placid arrow]

reported this but wanted to share this user has 10 accounts allegedly, and gamethrows whenever hes a ww by calling out other ww.

[quaint bramble]

@placid arrow heya we dont take reports here on the server, the guardians will see it if you reported ingame
they have ways of finding their other accounts too dw

[thick bolt]

I like couple chat idea

This make cupid so interesting

Couple and cupid could give ranked what it deserves

add couple chat, add cupid in ranked

[normal wyvern]

Couple chat -> can't work when roles with a seperate chat are coupled

[thick bolt]

why?

A coupled ww will have 3 chats

med too

jailer too

Is it a problem?

[astral spruce]

also

sect member, later converted by kitten, coupled, jailed

4 chat

wait sect has no chat

asfhasdhghasdfhgsdj

[thick bolt]

@astral spruce So it's still 3

[astral spruce]

WW Chat :
That one Talkative Wolf : "Hi"
"Hi"
"Hi"
"Hi"

we must add a feauture where you die if you dont send a message to wolves

[thick bolt]

In ranked all wws most of times say role

It is advisable

Not telling role is so bad

especially for jww

If you want to play as a pro telling role is like a day in the park

indeed

I almost always claim first

[quiet hollow]

Im done trying. Just ask Mom to kick me out cz im sick of the biasness

Ciao

Biasness from the guardians and whatnot btw

Mom's been taking care of me since day 1

[lament knoll]

Heyyy @thick bolt

Couple chat takes out the suspense of couple games... If the couple would talk during the day/night everyone else would also hear it, and also the fun of the couple is to win without further conversation, maybe sending little hints in the day chat to tell you partner something

A couple chat would make the couple just quite boring, you would discuss your whole plan in detail and it takes out the tension of, if your strategy pans out
Plus, 3 chats is too much, you can't possibly chat in 3 chats at the same time, this will just cause a big, not enjoyable mess

Plus a couple chat would rarely be used so there is no point in adding something that will serve no purpose...

Still thanks for the suggestion and have a nice day!

Hello @runic dragon

That sounds like an interesting idea, tho would the xp just not count towards contributed to the quest but count towards contributed to the clan? :3

Hey uhm @astral spruce
Serious suggestion or just a joke on the way? 👀

Hello @quiet hollow
The guardians do not act biased they do their job. If you have got a complaint about a guardian you can contact Kem, the guardian manager.
If you have got a complaint about him you can talk to a Moderator+

Duden tried to provide you help in #questions. Either you take that or you stop complaining if you won't try doing anything against it.
You can't judge the whole guardian team, because of one situation. They answer you once they answered the person that asked for help before you. It's just logical that this can take a time guardians are no machines.

They are human beings which deserve free time and which might do mistakes every once in a while.
If you don't want to understand that then sorry, we can't help you any further.

Have a nice day.

[gusty briar]

Maybe if someone clan teaming
the clan exp or gold will going to be highly reduced to prevent clan teaming

maybe it loose about 100exp/100 gold for each member who clanteam

so if there's like 3 people in same clan who are clan teaming, the clan going to loose 300 exp/gold

i suggest this because i see a lot of people who is above level 70 who using this tactic to help his clanmate win

@runic dragon ONLY IF yall clan teaming

clan teaming is against the rule

#wov-chat for that

[floral heath]

Custom Suggestion: Rewards

The host should be able to donate coins and roses into their game. A random player from the winning team who is still alive at the end of the game will receive the prizes. The host is notified who received the prizes. There must be at least 8 players in the game for the prizes to be given.

For the suggestion that wants players who have a high enough SP to be automatically put in Gold league at the start of another season. Change it so that they still start with 1500 SP like everyone else but they can still play within the Gold League for the first few placement matches. If their skill does not exceed 1700 after placement they are put back into Bronze/Silver.

[lament knoll]

Heyyy @gusty briar

This sounds like an interesting idea, and could actually be of use to prevent clan teaming a tad, tho I don't know if the taking gold is a good idea, that might be a bit too much punishment...

The xp thing sounds fair tho, thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a post in #feedback-devs 💕
Have a nice rest day ^^

Heyy @floral heath

Interesting suggestions, sort of like the gold rewarding system from ranked but in custom games,, the 8 players restriction also takes away my "you can easily trade gold with your alt then" argument :p

Would you also add a time requirement like, the usual 5 minutes or nah?

For the other suggestion, sure I'll post that and add that it is an addition to the suggestion before, thanks for your suggestions ^^

Have a nice day!

[floral heath]

@lament knoll 5 minute requirement is not needed here (People still don’t get XP if the game didn’t last long enough this part doesn’t change)

For example it could just be like a giveaway game where 16 SK and the winner receives prizes for example

[thin dome]

Rename Wolf Seer to Elder Wolf. It makes more sense of a name since it is stronger than Alpha WW, plus Elder Wolf is wise which would make since for his knowledge of everyone’s role 🙂

Or you can just put in his igd that he’s the oldest wolf in the game. ^^

[floral heath]

@lament knoll oh wait and also for my custom game suggestion, everyone can donate coins and roses into the game if they wish as well so even the host can get involved possibly. And also players can opt if they don’t want the prizes.

[runic dragon]

Guys so this is a suggestion that ik it will not happen but I want to take a serius discussion about this mayor yes I think this role is not useless but I want to examine it becouse I wanna suggest a buff becouse let's look at the role(warn my grammar and spelling are very bad so I will pls try to understand)
So first the ability of the mayor is revealing itself that is the main point of the role I like this it gives the think that is the most important think in wwo trust so they can't lynch you etc it's also a downside becouse you know Wolfe's and solo for balancing this they gave him the most useless ability of all time double vote so this is why I am doing this post becouse double vote is useless so the only situation that double vote is useful is if you are alone against wolf/solo that way you can save you and also if the minimum requirement is 2 votes but it's like bad for the downside/upside of revealing yourself so I get it that he is a regular villager but there is fortune teller fortune teller is this role but better you can basicly gives cards(aka revealing yourself if you wish to do) and also the upside is litterly revealing people voted and he is a regular villager so I don't see the point for the mayor only getting the double vote as the upside(edit so I wanna go more in depth about this so fortune teller is a very strong role and is a regular villager so my point his this role basicly allows for 2 free lyinch if you pass the card to somebody basicly evreybody knows you are the fortune teller and if the person doesn't use the card is becouse they are evil/solo so 2 free lyinch)I think it should get a buff and that buff in my opinion is lyinch one person at his own will like an extra lyinch some sorta of rework of the role but only after revealing myself like I could go on to this discussion but I don't wanna do it here in feedback so that was my suggestion hope this is helpful and thanks for reading

(if somebody wants to continue the discussion tag me in general)

[light edge]

mayor is the most powerful role after paci. absolutely no buffs are needed for rvs that can prove themselves.

[runic dragon]

Can we talk

Mayor is pretty weak actually

Like I suggested this buff becouse there are allot stronger regular villager roles

So basiclY he puts himself on a death sentence revealing himself so most of the times he doesn't get lyinched and the buff is a double vote so I already told the upside of double vote in the feedback but I compered that to fortune teller and I could go also in other roles that are regular of how mayor truly weak his but this is my opinion and I respect yours thanks that you have read this

@light edge

(feedback is above this response helper/staff)

[quaint bramble]

I wanna give your feedback some feedback... ending sentences in periods would really help making it easier to read 😅
You are free to suggest a new role that can lynch someone by themselves, but there is no reason to change up te mayor role. Having 2 effects for a regular villager, is quite exceptional. Being able to prove yourself at the right moment, can flip the game... And the double vote can inspire doubtful villagers to vote whoever you think they should vote, not just in a ww stand-off.

Fortune teller is actually RSV, not RRV... And it's different from mayor in many ways.

[runic dragon]

Thanks for the reposne wait I read this all

[quaint bramble]

Unknown aura, the cards dont work after ft dies (as far as I know) and it only confirms the ft if the others want to cooperate

Similar but different, thats why both of them exist ^^

[runic dragon]

@quaint bramble I know for fortune teller but I was going to make a comparison so first for the unk aura give a card prove that you are good no other role can do it so 100 % yes you are in a death sentence like mayor but plaYer will actually protect you I know they are similar and different but I wanna make a comparison to 2 regular villager so you can understand why I want him a buff and it can be anything not just lyinch alone but rly anything stronger then double vote and in many cases quick play this role is almost useless(when it's in quickplay)(I don't play ranked so I don't know the roles in ranked)becouse not many people are good to use it like most of the time mayor players are pushed bye ww roles to reveal themselves and they do but this is player fault and not the role so it doesn't matter

(like so basically the buff can be anything in my opinion but it must replace the double vote becouse like I say it's weak in my point)

[quaint bramble]

I think you might be right about it being less useful in quickgame, but then just suggest another role to replace mayor in quickgame..?
it really isnt a weak role, but even if it was, that doesnt mean it should be buffed. The village is already stronger than the wolves, having some less useful roles is good.. not every should be able to defeat the werewolves easily.
So if you want to make a similar role, go ahead in #role-ideas-readonly but no i will not post a mayor buff.
Like i said, a regular villager with 2 powers is already rare and a lot.

[light edge]

@runic dragon feel free to dm me

[runic dragon]

@quaint bramble(I made allot of roles I come from a writter from wc i AM allot active there but I try to suggest I role that replaced mayor thank you for at least reading all my walls of text 👍 )

[languid cape]

If you think mayor isnt strong enough then how strong is a normal villager?😂

Both are random regular villagers and can appear in ranked also they have the same aura

[next escarp]

i scroll up and—

[sacred sable]

Saw Felneus' feedback on "donating to custom games as host/players"
Basically betting/gambling

[languid cape]

Thats more of making a tournament reather than gambling

To gamble everyone must spare stuff into the pool and the winner gets them all

There is even a wwo tournament server that works the similar way as sir felenus’s feedback

[craggy dagger]

Re Felneus’s alternative suggestion on starting players off in gold league, variance can make people have to go through seer hell if they are wolf for most of their placement games and just lose.

[languid cape]

The league requirement skill points should go up as time passes, or the required skill point for the league should go up according to the player skill point average.
Why?
Because towards the end of the season 1700 sp becomes insufficent to keep new players out of gold league which affects the gameplay of the serious players that try to get on the leaderboard

[craggy dagger]

Makes it harder for players who join ranked mid season to climb

[languid cape]

Think of it as a new gold league requirement

Like just because someone joined late to ranked mid season doesnt mean they will extend the time period for them

[craggy dagger]

it extends the time they have to go through seer hell as the current system would dictate

[languid cape]

Its a new type of way to keep noobs out of gold but yeah it will affect good players as well

Maybe make it so that people that became at least top 500 cant fall down from gold league?

[quaint bramble]

If gold starts off with only 500 people in it, the matchmaking will be very slow

[craggy dagger]

Skill points do inflate with time you’re right about that, I think player pool splits are going to be the best way to do what your suggestion does.

[sacred sable]

Then what?
If/when Platinum is made, will top 500 also be unable to fall from there?

Will Plat rankers also ge a boost?

[languid cape]

No no I just said that those players cant fall down from gold league but they will still play in silver until gold is open

I know that gold league doesnt open in at least 2-3 days

[sacred sable]

So basically placement games minus the extra gain/loss

[languid cape]

@sacred sable no one said that there will be a platinum made

[sacred sable]

"If/when"

[languid cape]

This is exactly why im suggesting this type of thing

There will never be I guess

Devs are against it

[sacred sable]

Why would people be encouraged to discuss it then if devs don't like it?

Tube, Sect and some others

[craggy dagger]

Player pool splits will happen if the playerbase grows.

[languid cape]

Why would we discuss something that has been denied

We should come up with new ideas instead

[sacred sable]

There are pool splits already

[craggy dagger]

The playerbase growing seems pretty likely given that the game is in active development

[sacred sable]

high gold rankers to low gold rankers:
"You know nothing, bronze player"

[craggy dagger]

High skilled players to gamethrowers*

[sacred sable]

You tried

[iron girder]

high level to low level*
"Go reach level 1000, then you understand my pain"

[languid cape]

Kit I see why you dont play ranked now

Sad hahhaha

[sacred sable]

Tfw there's still no actual reason to go bast 150 afaik
Cuz iirc, masks stop unlocking for purchase at 150

I still play ranked sometimes
Cuz the occasional good game is a morale boost

But I don't religiously play it

[languid cape]

Religiously 😂

[sacred sable]

Lest I become another salty player

[craggy dagger]

The meta is different in different gamemodes due to a mix of the role setup changing and the skill of the average player in that pool

[languid cape]

Ranked is like the only game mode I play

[sacred sable]

Keeping a low expectation of everyone keeps my mood decent

[languid cape]

Yep thats why you are happy with sandbox

[sacred sable]

And playing ranked 24/7 would ruin that

[languid cape]

I expect people to at least play half my level

[craggy dagger]

I only win as wolf when I play SB because half the village leaves the game 🤡🤡

[sacred sable]

I'm content with finding bugs and abusers every game, yes

Ahh, here comes the trouble

[light edge]

well. since kit loves me so much. I rather keep the feedback to myself.

[languid cape]

Ranked players are “salty” 🤡

I mean if im trying to achive sometimg like get in top 250

And someone gamethrows everygame and ruins my chances

Should I say thank you or teach them how to play and hope they will improve?

I just wanna play with players at least half my level I dont think that is too much to ask

[craggy dagger]

I mean you find abusers in ranked too, seems like playing sandbox over ranked is preferable if you enjoy bug hunting

[sacred sable]

Abusers IE people that refuse to update for the old role mechanics

Such as rn, kww abusers

[craggy dagger]

Suggestion

Make SB inaccessible if you aren’t playing on the latest version of WWO

[languid cape]

If there are bug fixes role updates etc. the updates should be enforced... the devs should know this better

[craggy dagger]

Eh, add ranked to that too for good measure

[languid cape]

My suggestion
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/660259477609644091

I wanna see how many dislikes I get :p

But I still have the logical reasoning and im supporting it
@quaint bramble can you post it?

[quiet hollow]

I'll support you

[sacred sable]

You forget that updates roll out slower by country and OS

I've been told Apple puts updates out at least a day slower

[woven monolith]

i like that suggestion

[languid cape]

Yeah but people joning mid season messes it up. But still it makes sense since gold should be hard to achieve and its supossed to be something that you actually try to get into

Instead of getting carried by good players

[fresh tapir]

buff sect leader hes so weak

[quaint bramble]

@languid cape @light edge Im a bit late to the part but could you all stop talking down to eachother while you're here?

keep that salt in the kitchen please

[languid cape]

I think soverign found the biggest con of it

[quaint bramble]

@languid cape what exactly do you mean by 'as time passes' ? It increases every season? It increases during the season?

[languid cape]

But there are much more pros

Yes it increases during the season according to the average skill of the players

[quaint bramble]

@fresh tapir Heya then give some actual ideas to buff it please.

[languid cape]

I belive devs can find a scale for this

Because towards the end of te season gold league becomes a mess...

2k skill point players get matched with 6k sp players

Which is not fair at all

[quaint bramble]

thats what a platinum league would help with though?
And yeah it might take a bit longer before enough players reach the score, but gold is already filled up with silvers when needed, so I still dont believe that's an actual problem

[languid cape]

Gold right now has enough players that there arent actually players below 1700sp

But still 2k sp matches with 6k

And a platinum league would help with this but devs are against the idea so yeah

Keep the leagues the same but change the requirements by time

Ranked is supossed to be competitive and it has a time limit as well (per season)

[quaint bramble]

I think the attitude against that is shifting

[languid cape]

Hmm?

I didnt get what you just said

[quaint bramble]

I dont have direct contact with the devs about it so I cant rlly promise anything

[light edge]

excuse you? its not like I say stuff like "here comes trouble" when the potato starts writing. @quaint bramble

he would have ran to discord problems again

🤦‍♂️

I am out

[languid cape]

Lol

[quaint bramble]

You do pretty quickly jump to the conclusion, that disagreeing with you means they must be a sandbox player, while i know for a fact they're not

[languid cape]

Me??

[quaint bramble]

One of you used sandbox as an insult there yes, I dont plan on scrolling back up and pointing it out again.

[languid cape]

Oh

I know that they play ranked too but they dont play it seriously soo

I didnt mean to use it as an insult tho

[sacred sable]

[languid cape]

Its pretty clear when you play sandbox you can see the difference

Not that im saying every sandbox player plays bad

[quaint bramble]

There's a word for that; gatekeeping.. you decide when someone is serious enough to be allowed an opinion? I kindly disagree

[languid cape]

Wait.. I never said that

Im open to all suggestions

But im critical as well

I express my opinions and feelings on things

I try to understand and jump to a conclusion

Im not trying to offend anyone. Really.

[vagrant bronze]

I just play rank 12 seasons ago. I can say that's with diference the worst season I've seen. Idk how but should avoid new players in gold till they learn how to play. Just ruin the game

[quaint bramble]

I'm sorry but you do come across a bit hostile to some people here, and tend to lose focus on the ideas rather quickly when someone else joins in.
But going back to the feedback, it basically comes down to 'add platinum/increase gold leauge sp' I think?

[languid cape]

Its another way around that

Skill point requirements get higher by time

Or according to the player skill average

Both will do

[quaint bramble]

The problem with using averages is that we cant know those things when putting together the suggestion, only the devs have access to that info and it's constantly in motion

[light edge]

We also suggested win rate/ suicide rate/ won games total to enter ranked or gold.
Then a player with the mindset "if you don't like your role just suicide" comes by and says that would be unfair.

you can't tell me a 35% win rate and 10%+ suicide rate is a serious player.
We got bashed for stating the obvious.

[languid cape]

Mine is just a idea we cant know the average skill points of the players or how much sp by time it should go up

Thats why devs should decide that rather than me

[light edge]

We also suggested rule changes for gold/ different skill settings/ mvp/ new leagues/ tutorials.

We want want to split the players.
In serious and casual players.
The devs don't want that cut.

We want to improve ranked. Because quick game and sandbox is not competitive at all.

We dont talk down to sandbox players. They just have a different point of view on the game.

[runic dragon]

ranked has been a complete hell for the past month, i feel like the algo changed or something or idk. I don't recall matching with so much noobs before when my skill was 4500+ but now it's a disaster

[quaint bramble]

Yup as far as I know most of that did make it to feedback-devs before in some shape or form, I'm willing to repost it if you are willing to gather up some links to these posts?

[languid cape]

Idk if mine was posted before

[light edge]

You can't make every player happy. But yea would be nice if the serious ranked players would get heared for once. Because ranked is dead as it is now.

[languid cape]

Probably not

[light edge]

None of those suggestions got posted to feedback devs.

[languid cape]

My suggestion
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/660259477609644091

[quaint bramble]

The ideas become kind of frequent and almost-but-not-exactly the same, so it kinda interferes with eahcother

[light edge]

yet most ranked players want something like that.

[quaint bramble]

You cant expect to change 10 things at once, esp if they have almost identical goals, like affecting the split between players

[sacred sable]

You mean increasing the gap

[languid cape]

I mean if it doesnt get accepted by the devs we are forced to suggest something similiar but different

Because a lot of players want this

[ripe stirrup]

makerankedgreatagain.wwo

[light edge]

If players want to improve they can learn almost all advanced strats within 1 season. Most just dont. And they dont belong to gold.

[languid cape]

I just laughed so hard hahahhaha

[golden scarab]

The thing is that in rank nothing changes meanwhile other concerns are listened and fixed.

[languid cape]

EXACTLY

[ripe stirrup]

not bad

#wov-chat

we get it

[quaint bramble]

Not really relevant either.. do you want me to sit and watch till you;re done talking or am I supposed to go fetch your ideas from the whole history of feedback and bundle them up now?

[languid cape]

Was other ideas suggested other than mine?

Like right now

[ripe stirrup]

a lot of ideas have been posted. almost always same

[languid cape]

I didnt suggest a platinum league tho

[ripe stirrup]

as said

[languid cape]

https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/660259477609644091

Is there anything similiar to this

I really never saw something like this get suggested

I got the idea from another game

[light edge]

Changes in ranked
There has been new roles. A berserk nerf. another berserk nerf. and that's it.
Some didnt like spec mode which was the only possibility to escape gamethrower lobbies without adding to your suicide rate.
Potatoes were mad about "last second specs" and complained here so they removed it.

We suggested how about everyone starts in spec and can join the lobby if they like.
What they don't know is. Most leave because of those players complaining. Because the gap is too big.

[runic dragon]

Headhunter role should be removed in ranked, and just leave fool role. I'm tired of people leaving in fool games, sometimes messing up games.

[languid cape]

Reapeh I tried to get hh removed buffed or even changed into a new role

Suggested x828282 times

[runic dragon]

Those people leaving at the last second with the spec feature were the worst, ForTheSect, it messed up the experience for others.

[light edge]

this would be fixed if everyone started in spec mode. instead of people clicking spec to escape a lobby with 4+ gamethrower

[languid cape]

exactly

Add this one in

[quaint bramble]

Well I cant guarantee anything going into the game, but a few things I suspect/heard about being worked on:
increasing the gold sp, adding plat league, random voting role, re-adding spec mode (i still vouch for this start in spec idea, or a cooldown to lobby hopping)

[wicked flume]

what is this mythical berserk nerf ur speaking of?

[runic dragon]

How can you tell if someone is a gamethrower though 🤔?

[languid cape]

Its easy reapeh 😂

[woven monolith]

bc the gamethrow before

[languid cape]

@quaint bramble thats all the things that was suggested so far for ranked I think, I cant remember anything else

From PR at least

[quaint bramble]

exactly, at quick glance through those search results most of it was from PR
so what Im saying is, pick your 3 best things and link them
I will repost it

[runic dragon]

Spectator mode both made sure I could be in the game while I was not in the mood/too tired to play myself. I think the idea of starting in spectator mode or choosing it beforehand was a good idea. It can help you observe, learn from other players as well...

[quaint bramble]

But I dont really wanna spend another hour reading whole paharagraphs of old feedbacks and picking them out myself

[languid cape]

How do you link a searched result?

[quaint bramble]

just jump to the result and get the message link

there is some massive and complicated ideas which are likely not gonna work out, and a bunch of repeated smaller ideas

get me that spectator lobby thing again, and one solid skill point seperation idea, and an mvp one?

those are the things Sect listed too

We'll make a big fancy feedback post 'top 3 suggestions for rank imprivements' or smth

[languid cape]

Ok I’ll try one by one but I cant link searched result maybe cuz im mobile?

[ripe stirrup]

berserk isnt broken

[runic dragon]

It's just one clan who decided to storm the official WWO discord and propose their ideas, I hate this!!!

clan hated by lots of ranked players

[languid cape]

I click jump to chat and it brings me back here...

@runic dragon yes lots of players despise us

But we have the biggest ranked player base thats for a fact

You are free to express your opinions on our ideas or even suggest a better version

[ripe stirrup]

what happened?

[sacred sable]

Cart before the horse is what happened.

[ripe stirrup]

im more confused than before

[vagrant bronze]

I doubt that any clan in rank rejects these ideas

[sacred sable]

It's like
10-50 people, and one-two clans
That want the entire ranked to change
In English ranked
Every other ranked has no issues
Out of thousands of players

Sum it up?

[languid cape]

Kit it seems like only you have 10-50 players have a problem with this rather than thousands of players

[vagrant bronze]

Did u hv talk with them?

[languid cape]

Its not like we are trying to get the game worse...

[vagrant bronze]

not coming here to complain does not mean they agree

[sacred sable]

I only see like
Five? Six? Throwing a fit
And from what I've seen, it's usually after they lost a game
Man, coming up with proper words and not slamming with insults is hard

[vagrant bronze]

I've been playing rank for a year and a half and it's the first time I've done it. Cuz this situation is unbearable

[lament knoll]

Yeah uhm,, please keep your personal conflicts out of here, the conversation is going down south and not serving the purpose of the channel anymore so yeah, i'd prefer if you'd stop it or at least move it somewhere else please?

No need to stir up drama in a public channel... You should know that.

[languid cape]

@sacred sable im not suggesting these because I lose one game im trying to suggest things that will take out the unfairness of the current system right now

If you have better ideas suggest yourself then

[vagrant bronze]

Idc about they raging after a game

I care about how they play

[languid cape]

If you cant come up with productive ideas yourself, why stop the people that want to actually do something for the community

[quaint bramble]

Heya, please dont fight here. I am a staff member, I also play ranked. I am trying to work together with PR and get some ideas through to the game, that should make it better for everyone.
I get that not everyone in ranked agrees with their ideas, but please dont trash talk eachother.

I support PR and I support ranked as a whole.

[ripe summit]

There is my idea to improve ranking in general,I prefer the bonus one honnestly:
Make differents ranking.
Villagers
Werewolf
Voting solo player
Solo player
The total sp will be there all of them
PENALITY ONE
Village:50%
Werewolf :25%
Voting solo role :15% (since Hh)
solo role :10%
Exemple
Villager :5000
Werewolf:-500
Solo voting roles :1000
Solo killers : 100
Total sp : 2535 instead of 5600
OR BONUS ONE
Village:100%
Werewolf :125%
Voting solo role :110% (since Hh)
solo killers:200%
Exemple
Villager :5000
Werewolf: 500
Solo voting roles :1000
Solo killers : 100
Total sp : 7050 instead of 6600

[hot valley]

Slight remark: 0.25%, do you mean 25% (=0.25) ?

[ripe summit]

Yup

% are not this good. I need to test more to get a better result

[ripe summit]

Make a tutorial for every roles and possible interactions for new players. Exemple : shaman enchantement works on det info.

Make a quizz, before new players can enter in ranked.
And show the rules before they can play. They will need to accept it before playing

[old schooner]

Feedback for bans
They are useless just use parallel space

Get a better ban system

[sudden dock]

@old schooner you have to go more in depth and have a better argument when talking about why the current ban system could be better. Expand on your thoughts.

[old schooner]

Because i still can play

[craggy dagger]

@old schooner you mean like a separate player pool for throwers and or cheaters?

[old schooner]

@craggy dagger dude it will change nothing if u get banned

I got banned and used parallel space and just played

We need a system that is like a device ban

[quaint bramble]

You mean alt accounts or are you trolling? 🤔

[craggy dagger]

Well you see some games deal with gamethrowers or cheaters by making a separate pool for them

[old schooner]

@quaint bramble im not trolling

I got banned for game throwing

And just made an alt

Nope thats not even true

Why dis u delete it

[quaint bramble]

i didnt, not sure what happened

[old schooner]

Maybe create a

Stricter verification

Like the acc has to be linked with discord

And players that are verified have their own servers

[tawny igloo]

u can just bypass all those things tho

[old schooner]

And if u get banned u get unverified

Yes but its still harder

[tawny igloo]

and ip banning some1 is just extreme

[old schooner]

But nothing else will work

Ah ip banning is also useless

Reset router

Hardware ban is the only thing that will work

@quaint bramble

[tawny igloo]

gamethrowers will be in literally every game, theres not much you can do against that

[old schooner]

There is

Hardware ban

[quaint bramble]

The devs are against those kind of extreme measures and want to keep the game accesible to as many people as possible

There is nothing i can do to change their mind

[old schooner]

That means i can cheat and just use another acc

[quaint bramble]

Gamethrowers will always find a way, but we got staff taking care of it

[old schooner]

I find the game protection weak

[quaint bramble]

Im not a dev, I dont know everything they got, and i dont make any decisions about it

[wooden lily]

make it so you can save yourself once if your doc or bodyguard

[wicked flume]

Berserk shouldn’t be consumed if a protector isn’t killled since sometimes protectors aren’t doing their job and u only get 1 kill at night which defeats the whole point of berserk

@quaint bramble

Multiple kills or my berserk back

Hi sov

[craggy dagger]

Suggestion

Make berserk kill a target through protection but not kill the protector

Benefits:
Gives the intended effect of preventing village from plans such as “protect the aura when you’re doc” or “jail gunner so he can’t die” but also doesn’t make the wws too strong to get 2+ kills in a night
-Can be used to kill tgs or bgs outright

Cons: obviously a nerf on the current berserk, wolves still have to try and mislynch protectors such as doctor or bg/tg

This is also a classic werewolf role called a Strongman

@warm helm permission to post link please?

[wicked flume]

I like my buff more

Also give paci multiple reveals and name it fortune teller or something

Seems fair and balanced

[craggy dagger]

Paci not op @wicked flume lost as paci 🤡

[wicked flume]

Maybe steal an idea from zombies

Like the ability to convert

And give it to ww

Unlimited uses as well

[craggy dagger]

dont give them any ideas pls

[wicked flume]

Then maybe introduce a poll in the near future like they did with berserk

“Should kitten ww have unlimited converts?”

And prove democracy was a mistake

[floral heath]

@craggy dagger i don’t like this change, the point of berserk was to take out protectors and not to bypass protection.

[wicked flume]

Make give berserk a vacuum effect

Like u can force someone to protect someone

And have them all die

[craggy dagger]

Taking out protectors is usually not great in ranked as they’re the most mislynched roles @floral heath

[runic dragon]

Hi, I like the idea of varius languages servers for sandbox mode

[craggy dagger]

The biggest problem with current berserk is killing both jailer and gunner in one fell swoop

And potentially more roles too if they protect the gunner

[wicked flume]

That seems ok to me

[floral heath]

@craggy dagger the strongman ignores the point of protectors stopping attacks. Initially the berserk isn’t supposed to kill the target themselves if they were protected. This is why I also don’t like roles such as Arsonist because they can abuse their abilties without worrying about protectors.

[craggy dagger]

I thought the point of berserk was to strongman kills

[wicked flume]

Arso ww u gave me another great idea 👍

Fire wolf

[craggy dagger]

Take nerfed berserk for instance, aiming for aura to kill the doctor is more or less killing the doctor, one of the few roles that can’t prove themselves normally

[floral heath]

Also berserk indirectly counters the Jailer-Gunner meta as it is used so much

[runic dragon]

Well, no one cares about my idea 😭

Xd

[craggy dagger]

As does my strongman suggestion

[wicked flume]

Jailer should jail kill random quiet player n2

[floral heath]

Bad idea

[craggy dagger]

But only one bullet dies

[floral heath]

Same with berserk, in my supposed state, it would kill jailer only

[wicked flume]

Death of the author

And the jailer and gunner and bg and doc

[floral heath]

And any bgs and docs too

[wicked flume]

And witch and tg

[craggy dagger]

Example game with berserk
Aura dies first night
Gunner claims for jail day 1 and some ww dies
med revives aura and gunner and jailer both dead
Thats -3 non lynch KP from village gone

[floral heath]

Serves them right tbh xD

[craggy dagger]

Usually thats just an outright village loss if the solo killer doesnt immediately die

[wicked flume]

Yeah obviously

[floral heath]

At least Med also has to think of its even worth reviving

Not just I’ll revive the first person that dies

[craggy dagger]

The strongman would kill 2 bullets in this instance.

[wicked flume]

Idk how much is sarcastic and how much is genuine help guys

[craggy dagger]

Your suggestion to kill protectors makes aiming for aura on berserk night not good at all

[golden scarab]

😂😂 If you don t rev especially in an sk game bye village

[craggy dagger]

Jailer gets found by smart wolves fairly often and is unprotected most of the time due to being unclaimed

[floral heath]

If the protectors can’t co-ordinate then you can stack multiple kills. If there are little to no protectors left you can go for better kills on the following night

[craggy dagger]

@floral heath do you get multiple berserks under your suggestion

[floral heath]

Waiting to surprise them has its advantages, and disadvantages 😅

@craggy dagger just once

[craggy dagger]

Yeah aura dying as well as all the protectors seems a little strong

[wicked flume]

Dang this seems perfectly fine to me

[floral heath]

My original idea wasn’t supposed to include the aura dying too

[craggy dagger]

Like this is the dream situation for berserk, you cant really get this kinda carnage with any other random ww

Which is why having a berserk ig > any other random ww
Similar to why having a normal ww < any other ww
One swings the variance too heavily in wws favour, the other one swings the variance too low in their favour

[floral heath]

That’s if you use Berserk correctly

[craggy dagger]

Sham/seer/nightmare are fairly consistent

[wicked flume]

Berserk is so Timmy69420 can also win as ww 1/100 games 😂

[craggy dagger]

How do you use normal ww correctly to get a better outcome than having a shaman ww!

[floral heath]

Lol I just pretend to be nightmare ww

[craggy dagger]

Claiming nightmared as random ww is something you can do as any rww

[floral heath]

Not a RWW with a defined ability. Like if the berserk kills the protectors you can’t claim nightmared anymore

[craggy dagger]

sure, but pre berserk you can

[floral heath]

But when after the berserk they’ll realize you lied

[craggy dagger]

Yeah, but all the protectors will be dead

[floral heath]

That’s not guaranteed

[craggy dagger]

I just got 2-3 kills for claiming nightmared to look villagery

Does that happen when I claim nightmared as normal ww? Probably not

[floral heath]

But true kinda, if your berserk kills only the target itself your claim still stands

You can just say you couldn’t protect the target cuz you were deep sleep

[craggy dagger]

If the berserk is silent

Im not sure if frenzy should be announced under my suggestion

Probably not, but if the aura suddenly dies when they were supposed to have a doc on them its suspicious

[floral heath]

Yep, some people do suspect berserk if that happens

[craggy dagger]

Here’s my order of how strong the random ww is based on simply the role itself from weakest to strongest

Normal
Alpha ww
Sham/seer/nightmare
Jww
Berserk

[floral heath]

You can also fake nightmared if you need to buy yourself some time

[craggy dagger]

I fake nightmared as solo roles fairly often

jww as random ww is usually an extra ww kill outright

Oh right guardian ww is a thing

Maybe guardian is slightly stronger than shaman?

[floral heath]

It’s weaker, all it does is waste a lynch

And even then that’s not guaranteed, assuming priest, gunner etc interferes

[craggy dagger]

If you use it on a villager who was going to be mislynched anyway you prevent them from flipping villa for another day

[floral heath]

Not many people do that tbh, its one of those strategies that people are just afraid to do 😅

[craggy dagger]

Using it on solo killer gives them an extra night to kill village (sometimes needed as ww) using it on fool prevents you from losing outright

I think many people underestimate gww

[floral heath]

If you wanna continue in #wov-chat by all means but for your strongman suggestion it has been suggested in #role-ideas-readonly a crap ton of times and I just think it goes against the principles of protectors being able to stop attacks, which should stop berserk from killing actual target anyway.

[runic dragon]

#bot-commands

[glacial warren]

@wicked flume I can asure you, that this "unlimited convert for ww" won't happen
Many users want ww buffs and here they are ^^ The roles have/had good votes and in the end kitten ww brings the cursed in sandbox. Kitten ww can convert 1 player and this 1 player is like when cursed gets bitten. Now users complain about the fact that kitten is too strong, while they want wws stronger. There is no way, that everyone is happy with a decision.
Berserker suggestion:There was a bad voting about the berserker. If he should kill protectors only. On this point the community were able to choose and what they chose happened. Berserker is from the role tournament and had a pretty high vote there. Blame the users which decide ^^
If you want to continue, be serious and don't say things which are not real suggestions. Actual suggestions to improve the game this channel is not #complain

@runic dragon I am sorry for the late reply, but this already has been suggested and currently the devs are not planning to add more modes Thank you for the suggestion

[craggy dagger]

@glacial warren can I get a response on my strongman suggestion please?

[glacial warren]

Where is it?

[craggy dagger]

Lemme search for it

[copper pivot]

hi there, I am a native persian language speaker, you are supporting over 40 languages in your game, but there is no support for persian language that is the language of over 120 million native speakers around the world. I want to suggest that you add the persian (Farsi) language to your language list.
thank you

[runic dragon]

I would love it if you can buy with the points from the quests some items (special or limited) like if you have 25 points you can buy an emoji or so and with 50 a whole skin

[wintry trail]

Hi! I'm from Romania and i normally play on UK because there are more players. But today i switched to region Romania. it was very painful for me. All isult eachother and all voted random. All they want to do is to vote someone !

[runic dragon]

well, it’s like that in language servers other than English if i understand correctly from players i know ^^

what are you suggesting?

[wintry trail]

Add moderators that play with they and mute then. Like add some spyes if you understand.

[runic dragon]

spies? ^^’

just report them in game

[wintry trail]

Offf sorry. Spies*

[runic dragon]

there’s not so much guardians to go undercover in language channels, it’s already a hard time for them to ban gamethrowers ^^

[wintry trail]

I rapport them but are "guards" that can understand Romanian ?

@runic dragon

[runic dragon]

well i don’t know ^^

but you can just report those players random shooting

guardians will justify the reports ^^’

[wintry trail]

Ok thx. :)

[craggy dagger]

suggestion

Make it so when you are coupled you turn into a “coupled” role which functions the same but has a wincon of surviving as a couple

Why is this change needed? It’s needed so players who are coupled won’t be able to win with their original win condition. The game is simply confusing if you can win the game a normal way as a couple.

[runic dragon]

hey hey what’s this

modifying it so couple can’t win w their original team?

[craggy dagger]

Yes

[runic dragon]

mkay i’m in

[craggy dagger]

A well overdue suggestion in my opinion ^_^

[runic dragon]

but ngl, if couple are both village with no killing ability, they’re seriously doomed

[west wind]

If 2 werewolves are coupled and they win the cupid should win too

[runic dragon]

they have to win as the last players alive ^^

so nah

[rich karma]

when does santa disappear? Christmas is over and the role is just getting annoying ....

[runic dragon]

a week or two later

[sacred sable]

Doubt
Might possibly last til Feb

[runic dragon]

well, doesn’t affect me anyway i’m on ranked only

[sacred sable]

Sufdenly fool/hh is replaced by Santa for a week

[quaint bramble]

@craggy dagger I agree the couple would stand no chance on some cases, perhaps they do still win with the original team but a reduced xp rate and only if they died?

[fast marsh]

There are still a lot of people suiciding and just going off after the game started, stricter rules about that would maybe help the issue

[quaint bramble]

@rich karma Most games' festive content lasts till after new years I think, so it will probably stay around for another week or so. I dont know after that..

Also instead of changing wwb to kill thorugh protection bt not the protectors, maybe it can be a new role. Yup it might be hard to push through cause its similar but similar roles exist anyway andthat'll only increase

@fast marsh If you suicide 2 times or more within 6 hours, it's a 10 mins ban, thatgets longer every time you do it

[runic dragon]

Can a German Supporter Help me

Pls

I need

I asked for 1 rose and i got banned till monday for rosescamming ):

[quaint bramble]

@runic dragon Heya if you say rose for rose, you should always give one back
If you dont do that, to more than one person.. then its scamming

If you are honest that it only happened once, you can talk to a Guardian about it, we do have some that speak german

[runic dragon]

How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your in-game name and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

• Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980) :flag_vn:
• Alisonn => [AFK] @naive whale (Alisonn_x_Suxal#4655) :flag_ca: :flag_fr:
• Boy => @arctic nova (@BoyHanQuoc#6473) :flag_vn:
• Oliver => @elder dew (@Oliver#8960) :flag_de:
• Renard => @snow ruin (@Renard_eau#9157) :flag_fr:
• Catjojo => @hollow hinge (@catjojo|Jenn|#7139) :flag_de:
• Artemiis => @sharp cedar (@Artemiis#9648) :flag_fr: :flag_es: :flag_nl: :flag_de: :flag_it:
• SionnY => @dreamy vortex (@SionnY#2590) :flag_th:

I sayed rose for Rose no one Said anything someon did rose for all and the round ended(bc i was HH and won) and then i buyed this golden i mean this 30 Roses a Spin then i turned offline now i camed online started a round but i was banned(i did it 0 times before)

How can I write to a guardian

[quaint bramble]

I think you should send a message to a guardian, they can explain why they banned you...

you click on their name, if it says invalid, you can also find this list in #ingame-reports-archieved

or copy the @ in the end

[runic dragon]

Ok

I which Channel or private

In*

@elder dew

[meager gyro]

Please contact him in direct messages

[north oracle]

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[queen dagger]

I was thinking that maybe instead of the zombie just multiplied non-stop, maybe make it like this:

1. bit 2.
   Then the seer will become a zombie
   If 2. bit 3.
   But then village lynch/kill 2, 3 will also die because 2 bit 3 before

If 3 is already a then the next day the original zombie, 1 is killed, 2 & 3 will also die

Basically the players who were bitten by that specific player will all die

Get it?

I just want the zombie to not be so op

Mention me plz if anyone is gonna say something about this feedback cuz I'm gonna sleep

[ripe stirrup]

not a bad idea

but that makes zombie a nerfed sl

[runic dragon]

Hi I like the idea of varius lenguages servers for the sandbox mode

[quaint bramble]

Heya this is currently not possible, because that would be too much servers for the game or something

quick has all the languages and sb has only english

[white isle]

i have a pretty long friendslist and i wanted to look someone up but i knew only a bit of their name and no results came up. i asked what their username was and looked it up: still no results. apparently you can only find someone through search if even the capital letters etc. are the same, maybe change this?

[vivid blaze]

My suggestion wasn't responded to earlier so I post it again

I have 2 good suggestions

How about you put a restriction that to make a new account after logging out on your device you must wait 3-4 days. This simply prevents gamethrowers from making new accounts so quickly. Earlier I had suggested that put it for logging in also but now I think only for making new accounts makes more sense and there's not really a downfall.
Secondly, how about on day 2 you put a restriction on gunner that he can't shoot for 30 secs. Earlier I had suggested it to be always only during voting but now I say only for day 2 and only 30 secs. You can already guess why I'm suggesting this because some gunners just wanna be dumb and look for excuses to gamethrow. In particular when a target is enchanted on day 2 gunners don't even give them time to speak

[quaint bramble]

@white isle The search feature is capital sensitive, I guess because usernames are also like that in the game
I dont know if its possible to change that, it mustve been a deliberate choice to make it like this, since its pretty uncommon in online games

[pine sluice]

Dissagree with other suggestion, sure the enchanted player dont have time to defend themself but
First) theres still mayor group of people who wont trust in it cuz seer is more trustworthy then some claim
Second) you would need to unable to shoot for everyday because of shaman can enchant everyday
||But not in every game there is shaman||

@vivid blaze

[quaint bramble]

@vivid blaze For your first suggestion, I think the concept is good but 3-4 days is too much, since bans usually also dont last that long anyway.
However, as we discussed before it's a devs decisions to no put any visible limitators on account creation.
I can assure there is things in place to reduce gamethrowing with alts, besides just the guardians and the report system that i know you are distrustful of. We do have 8 of them now and they ban an average of 200 players a day, each.

For nerfing gunner, the role should not be nerfed further, simply because of gamethrowers. This kind if nerf would heavily impact serious gameplay, such as allowing junior the time tag someone etc.

[vivid blaze]

Shaman can enchant everyday yes obviously, but my point is that usually the gunner finishes both bullets by day 2.
It should only be for day 2 coz else we'll be restricting the gunner too much.

And @quaint bramble the junior almost always tags people on day 1 that's why we have priest to deal with it. Day 2 doesn't really have any concerns with junior

And the thing is that having a 30 sec restrictions has more upsides than the few minor downsides that you've said. Think about it.
It'll significantly reduce random killing as the gunner will have some info and won't blindly shoot on day 2, and after day 3 u know it's hardly random so.
A 30 sec window only on day 2 can bring many benefits

Also @quaint bramble, if you're talking about junior and other arguments, why is shooting stopped on day 1 discussion? To stop gamethrowers and random killing right? Exactly. So why not for 30 secs on day 2?

[quaint bramble]

Cause on day one it was possible to shoot without any info at all, while that is gameplay-wise, never needed at all.

If they wanna shoot random again, I dont think this timer is gonna make a difference. Just maybe you get a few smart people saying 'shaman ingame dont shoot' the gunner can still make his own plan and shoot anyway, and it would be the same amount of justification, some aura said the person was bad

[pine sluice]

If gunner is simply gametrowing he will shoot anyway

[quaint bramble]

@runic dragon heya the 3v3 is the ww's winning condition, I agree its tricky being coupled with a ww but they have to be killed faster to avoid this...

Similar stuff can happens if cupid is already dead the ww auto win can still interrupt the couple

I am all for posting a suggestion like this and I see someone type who had a good suggesion about it

[craggy dagger]

@quaint bramble the issue with winning at a reduced xp rate is it isn’t clear that not going for a couple win is gamethrowing, which it is as couple win > winning as anything else.

[quaint bramble]

some people reveal their lover, that happens cause they can still win

and yep we are trying to prevent that with this suggestion]

I dont think its fair if they get a full loss though, some coupled are very fragile and die quick, and then they get nothing at all

[white isle]

@quaint bramble but it should still be possible to let it show up multiple results right? because you basically get only one result: the exact name you were looking for..

[quaint bramble]

I dont know that, its techinal stuff...

@runic dragon please talk about that in #wov-chat its related i know but not really contrubuting to getting this idea posted right now

@craggy dagger Waiting for you since I was pretty close to posting it
How does it affect cupid, he is exclusively on the lover team too? Or hh mechanic; lovers die cupid is villager?

this is suggestion we are discussing now btw, so everyone knows;

Make it so when you are coupled you turn into a “coupled” role which functions the same but has a wincon of surviving as a couple

Why is this change needed? It’s needed so players who are coupled won’t be able to win with their original win condition. The game is simply confusing if you can win the game a normal way as a couple.

yup thats his suggestion too and im building off of that one cause its already solidly worded etc sorry 😅

do need him to reply and dig through though..

[normal wyvern]

In a 24-hours-rotation you can claim your daily rewards. When you click on "daily rewards" before you can claim your item, it says "come back later/tomorrow" to claim your item. Sometimes you don't really know when you can claim your daily rewards, specially the notifications for it appears too late or not. A correct time stemple, e.g. "In 17:27:13 hours you can claim your next daily reward", in the daily rewards pop-up would really clarify it when you can claim your daily reward.

[craggy dagger]

@quaint bramble it doesn’t affect cupid too much, he wins with his couple if they are alive otherwise village. Similar to hh siding villa when his target dies.

[drowsy sonnet]

How do you gain xp?

[lament knoll]

@drowsy sonnet in this server or in game? ^^

[drowsy sonnet]

In game

[lament knoll]

In game you get xp after every game, you get that xp depending on which team you've won with and there are also a bunch of bonuses with which you can get more xp, such as the winning streak, the first win of the game, when you stayed until the game ended etc

Next time please use #questions for questions💕
In that channel is also a list pinned which shows you how much xp you get for a win with each team and a list of all bonuses :3

@drowsy sonnet ^

Heyy @normal wyvern

How exactly do you mean?
Like when you go via settings -> daily rewards the pop up?
So it says "come back in 17:27:13" like how it does for the clan waiting time during a quest ? :3

I am pretty sure this has already been suggested before, but that'll have been a longer time ago, so I think I'll give it a repost!

Thanks alot for your suggestion and have a nice evening💕

[normal wyvern]

Yep, like what you thought! Thank you very much and you too ❤️

[zenith kayak]

Add an option to search through your friendlist. Unlike the search for friends option now, itll show just people you have friended. when you search it would give the 3 closest usernames to what you entered

[minor python]

remove the role list bottom left. People just calling their roles and all the silent ones are wolves. People use it as a shopping list.

and if u are a fool, lobby is spamming fool ig and someone will get randomly shot

same as sk arso

[craggy dagger]

Yeah hidden rolelists is going to solve everything guys!

(Y)

[quaint bramble]

If everyone cooperates in saying their roles, that sounds more like an illegal farming game, and thats not allowed 🤔

[sacred sable]

People kind of say their roles day1 as it is so

[ripe stirrup]

so if all the villagers claim their role its gamethrowing?

[sacred sable]

To comment on the last feedback:
You already have an in-game notif on when your daily login is ready.
And you can even CLAIM THE LOGIN LIKE, 4 HOURS EARLY EVERY TIME

Why do we need a timer for daily?

[ripe stirrup]

right

[rigid bronze]

If it bothers you, just downvote it 👀 I don't think this needs a conter-post since even if it gets added it wouldn't reaaaaally bother you

And if you just gave your opinion, sorry xd

[runic dragon]

Instead of giving rose one by one player can choose to give how many roses he/she want to give out.

[rigid bronze]

Already suggested, and suggested a lot of times 👀 idrk what will happen, but Devs know that this feature is asked a lot ! thanks you anyway 😄

[twilit fjord]

I think once illusionist dies, the peoples roles he illusioned should go back to normal aka their regular roles. What's the point of keeping them illusioned if illusionist is dead?

[quaint bramble]

Hm well, corrupted players roles also stay hidden if corruptor dies
And the advantage of it is that when the seer has to ask 'what role are you really'
that the wws can counter claim and accuse

[queen dagger]

Since my suggestion wasn't read by anyone before I'm gonna post it again

I was thinking that maybe instead of the zombie just multiplied non-stop, maybe make it like this:

1. bit 2.
   Then the seer will become a
   If 2. bit 3.
   But then village lynch/kill 2, 3 will also die because 2 bit 3 before

If 3 is already a zombie then the next day the original zombie, 1 is killed, 2 & 3 will also die

Basically the players who were bitten by that specific player will all die

[vivid blaze]

The home screen of the game should have the logo on top. The blank space on top looks kinda empty and can be utilized aesthetically

[sudden dock]

Could ties result in 0 skill change?

It doesn't really make sense for it to be a number at the height of 37...

[twilit fjord]

If a player dies they should no longer be illusioned. I’ve played a few games where someone is revived and they get killed immediately after by illusionist.

[queen dagger]

About the Illusionist is already suggested before, it's there at #feedback-devs probably gone now

[lament knoll]

Heyyy @queen dagger

We get a lot of suggestions about fixing or nerfing zombies and I think we had all already, someone before commented that this would zombie only make a weak sect leader and idk but they kind of got a point with it being similar to sl but well every solo role is similar to another one at some point...

I'll try to rephrase it and give it a post even tho that idea with the OG Zombie does not quite convince me from the zombie point of view👀
Thanks for your suggestion and have a nice day/evening! 💕

Hello @vivid blaze
That does sound like a nice idea, even if only a small aesthtic thing, as a huge fan from stuff looking good I agree on that

Tho do you mean the app icon or simply the white ww icon? Aesthtic-wise I think the white ww icon would fit better into the blue sky than a pink ball, wouldn't it?

However thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a post, have a good day/evening

Heyya @sudden dock

This has indeed already been suggested before and reposted once too, I think earlier this month, so I believe it does not need a repost now, tho I could give you the link to the suggestion if you want to?

However thanks for your feedback and this suggestion, it is highly appreciated!
Have a good day/evening ^^

Heyy @twilit fjord

This does sound like a serious issue indeed but it has just been posted like Midway of this month so I don't think it does need a repost right now...

I can get you the link if you want to, thanks anyways for your suggestion, that shows you there are several people wanting this and that the demand in it is high.

Have a great day/evening 💕

[sudden dock]

can the current background stay until late march? (Spring) since its a winter background

Winter (dec 1- march 22)
Spring/summer (march 23- october 10) Halloween (October 11-November 1)
New Fall (November 2- November 30)

[runic dragon]

@sudden dock It's nonsense in some countries that doesn't have alot of seasons

[quaint bramble]

And many people dont like the brightness of the winter bg, so i think keeping it for that long isnt a great idea

[runic dragon]

it was like,
who tf turned on the lights

[sudden dock]

Lol

[iron girder]

Refund Guild Quest System

This is designated against Guild's who have low member count or tend to complete a certain quest day every x days. Like for each Day of quest, they may complete it during weekends.

The refund system works like this. When cancelling a quest during Day One. They get x% of gold used back. The x% decreases followingly to Day Six.(The percentage should be lower as players have obtained the Day items).

This is so when a guild is completing a quest halfway and noticed that the new quest is an AMAZING set. They could have a internal vote to quit and start the new one.

[tender cloak]

Hello I used to play WWOnline normally but eventually I get tired of the players so I got rid of it and now I've decided to play again but now i can't recover my account which was BlueDragon634 and now I'm stuck with a new account with nothing and I've tried using email and facebook is there anyway to recover it?

Sorry if thia is not the correct chat I havent been on here for a while

[runic dragon]

@tender cloak If you made your acc with email, First make sure you pressed "Sign in".

If you don't remember the password you can use the "Forgot Password", and put your email, you'll receive an email to restart your password

If that doesn't work ask again in #questions

[iron girder]

When people are converted due to kitten wolf/zombie they should be able to view their old roles.

cough Someone I know messed that part up.

[mild locust]

You need to fix zombie. It's so broken. I just found out it doesn't need to be original zombie to continue spreading. In order for zombie to lose, they essentially need to die in the first 2 nights.

[undone juniper]

Sa

[subtle hearth]

@undone juniper kanka

[undone juniper]

Efm

[subtle hearth]

Kanka ban yedim de kiminle görüşmem gerekiyor

[undone juniper]

Bilmiyom bende yeni geldim

Geçici mi kalıcımı

[subtle hearth]

Yav geçiçi sürekli yeniden canlanıyodum bug olmuştu adamlar hile sandı beni rapor ettiler ban yedim

[undone juniper]

Ohaa

Derecelide mi

[hasty imp]

Can they please start adding roles that have been in sb for months to quick game?

The quickgame rolesets are old by now and I feel like the roles like marksman and nightmare ww work well enough to be added by now

[spark parcel]

I find that the pink messages for what happened in the night are not really clear. So my suggestion would be to make them more readable. For example have a lign separating the days, and make the dead players stand out by writing something like

The villages lynched 14 Idk (Alpha Werewolf)
• The werewolves killed 1 Dimitri_ (Fool)
• The serial killer stabbed 5 Cutyflamme (Doctor)

---

Day 3

My second suggestion is to add the option to click on a player during the vote phase to be able to see a list of all players voting him. Because sometimes 3 or 4 players are voting a different player than the rest of the village and you want to know who. But it takes ages to look every player to see who they are voting.

[woeful mesa]

A lot of people are wondering where they can unlock the outfit's part after getting the right amount of loyalty tokens, while they don't know it's automatically unlocked in the inventory. Maybe add it in the description?

[runic dragon]

Hi, I was thinking that it could be a good idea making multiple language servers for Sandbox Mode

What do u you think?

[limber lily]

No. Sandbox is english, as it is there to test out new roles. In case of major bugs, etc, it makes it much easier to see everything in english, instead of having to translate everything that happens

[runic dragon]

Ok

I'm saying it becouse all that people that dont now English and just talk in his language that ruins the fun

[zealous raven]

SUGGESTION, The game should have feature that show your recent games history, at least 5 recent games

[runic dragon]

@zealous raven and what i would show of the game?

[zealous raven]

@runic dragonexcuse me sir?

[runic dragon]

Nothing xd
@zealous raven

[zealous raven]

i mean just like other games, u can see ur recent mathces, it shows everything from the match including who has what role, the chat, etc

[runic dragon]

Ohh, that is a great idea @zealous raven

[zealous raven]

yeah sometimes why internet went bad and i restart the game, but it was over, i cant check if i win or lose last match

[runic dragon]

Yeah, like when fool win being AFK xd

[queen dagger]

If a player got the same item from loot box, can you guys add something to tell the player that he already has that item and get a fixed amount of gold? Maybe add like +50 on the center of the item with Yellow colour maybe

[rigid bronze]

There is already a fixed amount of gold you get with same items

It depends on the color, I don't remember all of the amounts but ik you get 200 golds with gold item

@zealous raven This was already suggested very recently and I like that idea but sadly I won't repost it now :c thanks for suggesting anyway !

[zealous raven]

have the developer notice this suggestion btw? @rigid bronze

[rigid bronze]

@iron girder Well I don't really find the use of it but if you think it would be helpful for some clans, then sure I will add it to #feedback-devs 🟩

@iron girder Well the downsides of that (more icons on the player's face + misunderstanding on who can see it if revealed or not etc) aren't really worth the upsides for the few players who can't remember that... 🟥

@mild locust If you have any idea how to fix the zombie, then I'll be listening to you but otherwise this feedback has no use ; we sadly already know that zombie is overpowered... 🟥

@undone juniper @subtle hearth Please speak English 👀

@hasty imp I will add that to #feedback-devs, but maybe Devs have an "internal" reason not to put those roles in normal gamemodes 👀 thanks for suggesting 🟩

@spark parcel

1. Very good idea ! It's a bit a weird solution haha but it isn't bad if it works ! 🟩

2. Sooo... Clicking on a player during vote phase makes you vote for them 😅 and if you have to click on the signs or the hand, then you'll have much less space to perform some actions... Even tho, without those problems I don't think this feature is reaaaally useful tbh... You have to look at maximum 14 players so... 🟥

@woeful mesa Alrighty 🟩

@zealous raven Probably but I'm not a Dev so I can't really know

[iron girder]

Ehh ok

[rigid bronze]

Wait I'll check if they reacted to the feedback

[zealous raven]

i hope dev already working on it

[iron girder]

I guess I'll leave it so when people have same thoughts should do

[rigid bronze]

Wdym ? 👀

@zealous raven they didn't react yet, but the post has 50+ for 4 so it has a good probability of getting added

[zealous raven]

hope theyll get around soon

@rigid bronzecan i get the post link please?

[rigid bronze]

Sure

https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/658417907042353152

[bleak storm]

Hi, I know maybe it isn't nice of me, but in my opinion Marksman should be buffed

[iron girder]

Oh thanks

[bleak storm]

Right now it can do very little for the village

Sorry if this isn't the right channel

[rigid bronze]

@iron girder I think there was a misunderstanding 👀 your first suggestion looked very promising so I added it to #feedback-devs but the second abt showing ancient roles when getting converted was, for me, too messy and not user-friendly enough to be added to the game

@bleak storm How could it be buffed ?

Probably but idk if the Reddit is already "official" 🤔

Will ask 👍

[normal wyvern]

Thank you!

[bleak storm]

@rigid bronze By removing the "you die if your target is a villager" part

[iron girder]

Ok.

[bleak storm]

This would make the mm an equivalent to the gunner

And move it to strong villager category

[rigid bronze]

Well I think the point of this role is to be a normal villager 🤔 otherwise, without "you die" part, it's just a buffed gunner since it has 2 bullets

[bleak storm]

Gunner 2 has two bullets

[rigid bronze]

Oh true

My bad 😅

Then it's just a gunner that has to wait before shooting

And also that would make more random shooting :v

[bleak storm]

Now let's compare them as they are now

Gunner pros: you can kill people on a whim
Gunner cons: you get revealed

Marksman pros: you can kill people while concealed
Marksman cons: you need to setup the kill and if you misjudge the target you die, the combination of these two cons means the mm will potentially never shoot because they fear mishooting. So I'd remove the second con and make the marksman survive even if they misjusge

[rigid bronze]

Okay okay I see

[bleak storm]

Though of course, you know the game better, so...

[rigid bronze]

That way of saying it is much more clearer, if you could just add the "I'd remove the part where you die" thingy, I will add it to #feedback-devs 👌

Just edit your message, I'll copy and I'll post it 😁

[bleak storm]

Ok, I'll edit my message

[rigid bronze]

(Also even if I know probably more than a majority of players, I don't know everything 👀)

[bleak storm]

Edited

[rigid bronze]

Thank youuu

[bleak storm]

@rigid bronze No, thank you

[worldly wind]

Thanks

[rigid bronze]

😁

[bleak storm]

A yellow thumb down already. Oh well, at least I tryed

[rigid bronze]

@bleak storm Dont worry haha your suggestions will most of the time not be added and probably not be liked either, but as you said at least you tried 👍 there will be once where your suggestion will liked and surely added, but just keep on suggesting things 👀

@normal wyvern seems like it's official 👀 could you please repost your pic

[normal wyvern]

[rigid bronze]

Thanks you 💙

[normal wyvern]

No problem. I accidentally deleted it

[rigid bronze]

Don't worry 👀

Looks like there are 2 official reddits xd wait I will ask Maffin

[normal wyvern]

tricky

[rigid bronze]

@iron girder Heya, I'm sorry (and at the same time happy?) to tell you that the feature you suggested (quest refund) is already in game ! If you cancel a quest midway, you get a % of the gold you spent

[limber lily]

@runic dragon Hello, please dont swear in here :)

[runic dragon]

Hello

[limber lily]

@runic dragon Hello, welcome to the server. If you wanna chat with people you can go to #wov-chat or #off-topic , in here you can suggest feedback

[barren laurel]

i can't see how many people are voting 11 because the corrupted-symbol is too big, maybe you can make it a little smaller

[vague flame]

So I was cupid and I had a couple who were both ww there was me Cupid the fool and seer. Both ww voted for seer along with fool so when seer died there was the fool and me with the 2 ww who were a couple. However because of the tie they couldnt win as a couple. Is there a way to change it for couples. It happens for most couples and is annoying

[hot valley]

mentorchat
i would like a modality in which,for example people are divide based on level...like players level 0-20/21-50/51-100,cause in ranked when u start with bronze,you always play with players who dont know what to do,and you will always lose..never arriving higher on ranked.

he wants a new gamemode

Note from mentor: Told him that this has been suggested before but he insisted

[old schooner]

The screen

Where u get your role

Takes too long

Make it shorter please

[hardy pelican]

Idea: Skin Unlock Card

Appear:

1. Battle Pass Tier 25, 50 and 75
   Or
2. Battle Pass Tier 20, 40, 60 and 80

Ability: Unlock Things by Same or Lower Outline Box

Level of Card:

1. Green Outline Unlock Card
2. Blue Outline Unlock Card
3. Purple Outline Unlock Card
4. Gold Outline Unlock Card

Can unlock:

1. Graveyard
2. Skin
3. Icon

Can Add

1. Talisman for 1 role
   (+1 for Green, +2 for Blue, +3 for Purple and +5 for Gold)
2. Roses
   (+2 for Green, +3 for Blue, +4 for Purple and +6 for Gold)
3. Group of Roses
   (+1 for Purple and Gold)

Cannot Unlock:

1. Skin that need to use real money to pay
2. Clan Mission Skin
3. Special Event Costume (eg. Santa)

By @hardy pelican

[pine sluice]

Make mouth above hair so if theres any beard it wont look so weird

[shut pecan]

Make Solo Killer inmune to Jr Tag, this way they have to convince Village to lynch them, instead of making the win impossible for solos if Jr is alive in late game.

[runic dragon]

@pine sluice Hello i really agree with you. It would look better if mouth is above hair.
Bc yeah it looks a bit weird atm but if you use diff mouth it should look a bit better

@old schooner how so? How much time it should be? 👀

@hardy pelican sounds interesting so if i got it right you can unlock items by using card. No matter how much gold they cost?

[glacial warren]

@barren laurel hey hey ^^ as far as I know this has already been suggested before, but I couldnt find it in #feedback-devs ^^
Would this suggestion fit:
I would like to suggest, that the glitched icon is smaller, because I can't see votes on 11 while being glitched.
I also can't see the role from 6 and this is pretty annoying.
? If yes I will post it like this ^^

@vague flame hey ^w^ the ww win, even if the couple is ww, has been suggested and I agree, that this would be realistic and fair ^^'
It is weird, that the ww couple can't win, but the village couple can right
Thank you very much for the suggestion

@hot valley well you are right ^^ it has been suggested and the devs are not planning to add new game modes. Even then, thank you for redirecting it ^^

[ripe summit]

@shut pecan you played it bad at the end then, you need to get jww out. Before wws outnumber you. And there is an other problem, if you tag them all one by one,you'll find sk or arso without info.

It will be overpowered and bad on same time

[woeful mesa]

repost

It would be great if we could change our way to log in, from facebook to email, from email to google... Because actually only if we logged on the first time with an email can we change the email we wish to use for logging in, and even with this way we can't change it to facebook or google.

[shut pecan]

Even if a JR is dead already, you never know if there will be a 2nd one

Also being inmune to tag just means that if u tagged sk, nothing will happen when u die

[ripe summit]

That's the same anyway, you need to kill villagers and ww later if villagers can't do it.

I know what I am talking about. Jww is the way to get solo player killed if they can't vote him

[shut pecan]

Its the easy way

Which i why i thought it would be unfair for a role like arsonist

That is harder to controll kills

[ripe summit]

Village is there to control ww kills

[hardy pelican]

@runic dragon
It depends on Outline box

Also outline box have same price

[ripe summit]

Then you fake aura and hope to hit wws to get them out and do a big burn

[shut pecan]

Youd have to be very lucky + depends if no other informer checks you

[ripe summit]

Lucky? Nah you can know ww easily if they are silent

[shut pecan]

In rank you dont know if a player is silent bc they are evil or just newer to the game

Roles like medium and jailer also stay silent

[ripe summit]

Shaman exists 😉

[shut pecan]

Not in day 1 or if they are dead

[ripe summit]

Say than the random ww is shaman

You have to find a way to gain trust

[shut pecan]

So just say someone is evil and hope they believe rww is shaman

[runic dragon]

@hardy pelican yeah i see^-^

[ripe summit]

Even if it's not true. Until random ww isn't dead you can say it

[shut pecan]

If you are good and lucky enough to trick village the entire game

And also had the guts to do it

Then u deserve win

[ripe summit]

That's skill based

Once I find 2 wws in a row as arso-aura, I got tagged cuz I was way more trustable than the true aura and it happens .

[shut pecan]

That has happened to me too, and it doesnt really feel unfair. What is unfair is being unable to win late game

[ripe summit]

It happens more than once to me

[vale gyro]

Will a push notification system before voting/night etc start ever get implemented? There are always way too many people who play, tab out and then forgot a game was going. As i already suggested some time ago push notifications would remind people they're still in an ongoing game and thus reduce the amount of offline players. I'm really sick of having rounds like this where literally every important role is offline. It's unplayable.

[ripe summit]

Let me give you my stats
Arso : 13 win 237 lose
Sk :17 win 252 lose

[light edge]

jr dying last should get demoted to silver anyway

I like the idea to be unable to tag solo in a 3 way.

[ripe summit]

Solo killers win are hard anyway, huge reward near it

[light edge]

other than that it's fine to tag solo when the time is right

[ripe summit]

Anyway it's the same thing than as a 1v1 against ave or Mayor.

@shut pecan but make jww tag innefective n1 on solo killer is a good idea, exemple : sk killing jww n1, randomed tag sk

[shut pecan]

Yes I gave up about the other option, but thatd make sense

[mortal sparrow]

Love the game, the roles are great. I like it that you need 35 wins to play ranked, but also dislike it, because that means I first need to get 35 wins amongst players of which half of them don't really seem to understand how to play the game. But since I don't see another way of circumventing this, I can accept it.
Question: Do reports sent during ranked games get more attention than reports sent in quick games? And when does someone get banned? I have a feeling when I'm the only one to report someone for gamethrowing, they don't always get punished, but why? Just today I had someone who spoiled who the remaining ww was, and I usually get a msg saying 'someone you reported got banned', but they were not banned.

[woeful mesa]

@mortal sparrow I think your message fits more in #questions ^^

[mortal sparrow]

Didn't see. Thanks!

[oak temple]

Bug

[vivid blaze]

Tbh remove the hate speech rule for people who respond/react/stand up for themselves.
Some people just can't deal with so much oppression and they should have the right to stand up for themselves. Just sitting there doing nothing and allowing themseleves to get bullied is the worst.
And lastly, don't even try to say "report them". We all know it's useless as people can and do easily come back within a matter of secs. For a matter of fact it's clear in the game. No matter how much you report the amount of toxicity is still the same let alone I think its increasing.
I have met the same toxic players with just a slightly different username who keep coming back after bans to still insult and troll people, so please... don't even try to mention 'reports' here. Talk about my suggestion only

[astral spruce]

Instead of ```diff

• Player 6 wins! They are the Fool/Serial Killer/Headhunter/Arsonist/Illusionist/Bomberuse "he&she". If person has Male as their account gender it will saydiff
• Player 6 wins! He is the Fool/...If they didn't choose a gender it will saydiff
• Player 6 wins! They are the Fool/...``` not a major i d e a

[floral heath]

I think it’s a good idea

[astral spruce]

because it sounds like you are being referred as an "it"

Y'know.

Several grammar mistake but you get the idea

[sacred sable]

Afaik, you can't not pick a gender, so...

[vale gyro]

You can.

Next thing, they is grammatically correct.

[shut pecan]

Prob suggested before, but can you make WWseer appear as they didnt kill anyone

Of they havent resigned their ability yet

[sacred sable]

Too bad it won't happen

[astral spruce]

All roles should take a full night to perform the ability they chose. Why? Because a such example is : Where Jailer shoots you without even asking your role, in some dumb situations where you seem to be evil but you actually not you can't convince the jailer. Another such thing is where the Arsonist chooses to ignite the players were doused, Seer dies, Seer gets the info before dying, Medium Revives Seer in the same night and Seer says who is Arsonist... In that case it should be like : Arsonist has to wait for the morning to kill, Seer has to wait for the morning to get the information as well.
Basically the roles will get nerfed by this suggestion are :

• Every informer role including Wolf Seer and decluding Sheriff&Spirit Seer.
• Jailer, Arsonist, Bomber (maybe not bomber), Marksman, Witch

I WANT EQUALISM BETWEEN ALL ROLES

[sacred sable]

You
Realize roles act like they do now because of stuff like that, yes?

[astral spruce]

what do you mean

[sacred sable]

Seer gets info during night in case arso/something kills them at the end of the night
So if they die same time they'd get info, they'd get no info

And arso kills during night likely so they aren't burning a ww victim... or maybe because it helps with either solo or ww winning

[astral spruce]

dude...

as arso just ignite when 5 seconds left

:p

[sacred sable]

Yes

[astral spruce]

or at 25 second left to make seer no get info

or at last 5 to make sure medium cant revive

[sacred sable]

Just like jailer shoots 1-2 seconds left

[astral spruce]

i shoot 20 seconds left

because 10 seconds is enough for them to claim a role

[sacred sable]

"Sorry guise, I was watching youtube so I couldn't claim for jailer"

[shut pecan]

Maybe make it so only jailer kills at end of night

I think every other role make sense to use ability whenver they want

The next day would appear "The jailer killed x player last night", just after it tells who the WWs killed

[sacred sable]

Also stops jailer from revealing who they jailed so wolves don't go for the revealed gunner/paci'd role

[shut pecan]

Truw

True*