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quaint bramble
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@light edge 'keeping them around longer' meaning the gamethrowers and such?

light edge
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ye

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as it's competitive play. those reports should have a higher priority

quaint bramble
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I think you can suggest this to the guardian manager directly, its not really something we would post to feedback-devs

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Write up some nice convincing arguments and send them a solid message: @crisp thistle

twilit fjord
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@quaint bramble oh i know u guys do, no worries. I was just giving that message as an example, i put something in feedback about that message a while ago, just voicing a concern of mine, so no worries :)

vivid blaze
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Can you seriously restore the sunglasses position to the one before? The current update has moved the shades a bit low on the face and look so stupid

fallen rock
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Change chat color because it is hard to read

quaint bramble
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@fallen rock thats a bug.

fallen rock
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Okey

forest rover
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Being able to send roses in play with friends it’s fantastic,and I would like if you add the option to see how many roses we given if I am the only one in the chat.It seems a minor feature but it would be really helpful in my opinion with rose trade.

languid cape
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Iron sheep I belive you can already view rose history

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When you send or recieve a rose there will be a history tab that shows up

forest rover
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@languid cape you cannot if you’re the only one in the play with friends mode

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Because the rose icon just appears if there’s two or more players

runic dragon
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how do you send roses to others with only you in the tab exactly?

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🤔

forest rover
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I don’t want to send roses

languid cape
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Im confussed too

forest rover
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I want to see the rose history

runic dragon
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you didn't send roses so there'd be no history

languid cape
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Wouldnt that be too...

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Much

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Like 1200 roses history

forest rover
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What if we’re two playing I send x roses and then the other one left the game @runic dragon?

runic dragon
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...

forest rover
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Wdym @languid cape?

languid cape
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I thought you meant all the rose history

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I get it now

runic dragon
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ig it's fine

forest rover
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I don’t want to start a game just to see it @runic dragon 😕

runic dragon
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okok i get what you mean

vivid blaze
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Make a reporting section in game where we can report players who deliberately don't do their job to indirectly gamethrow. Such as gunners not shooting, seers not giving info, doc/bg not protecting, etc.

runic dragon
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we alr report that in gamethrowing category

vivid blaze
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We're literally sick of this. We lost to fool coz of a useless gunner

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Well I dont think its strict enough if it's in the gamethrowing category

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Well then, make it an automatic report if gunner deliberately doesn't shoot for 3 days

runic dragon
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🤔 so a separate category to report weak players?

vivid blaze
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Not weak, rather gamethrowing

limber lily
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Gunners can be sected or lovers

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If they dont shoot they dont

vivid blaze
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I'm talking about quick game btw

limber lily
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If they shoot good roles on purpose, then gamethrowing

runic dragon
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some gunners really don't know what to do

limber lily
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Otherwise they dont need to be pressured into shooting.

vivid blaze
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Well... in quick game some gunners deliberately don't shoot

limber lily
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They dont have to

vivid blaze
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...

runic dragon
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they're just weak players, but if it's not intentional i don't see why they should be reported

limber lily
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Its their loss if they play bad

vivid blaze
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We've lost to fool for so many times for a reason

limber lily
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dont vote him then.

vivid blaze
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@limber lily there's no point in defending the criminals here. Try supporting the truth

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Wow

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Lemme get this straight

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He wasnt a clear fool

runic dragon
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it's fine if they deliberately don't shoot if they don't like risking shooting a bad player... i've seen a lot of weak players that don't shoot but genuinely trying to help village

vivid blaze
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Thats the point where the shot was necessary

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Well guess what... shooting obvious liars isnt risky

limber lily
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Im defending no criminals, as I said, gunners dont have to shoot. Its their choice, and when they feel like saving their bullets, then they can. If they loose, its their own loss

runic dragon
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you can't expect everyone to play good, especially in quick game

vivid blaze
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Gunners are in the game for a reason. All roles are

limber lily
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Yeah, they can shoot if they feels its necessary

vivid blaze
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What's the point of playing the game if you're not gonna do your job?

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Exactly that's the point

runic dragon
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they're learning to play

vivid blaze
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I'm not saying that gunners have to shoot

limber lily
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And many people are scared of being reported for gamethrowing or random shooting because they shoot a villager

runic dragon
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quick game is the mode for people to learn to play before going to other modes

vivid blaze
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I'm saying that some of them deliberately don't shoot when absolutely necessary

runic dragon
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you get what i mean? they don't necessarily play well

limber lily
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well yeah thats what youre saying, they have to shoot or they shouldnt play

vivid blaze
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@runic dragon learning or newbie is a total excuse. There are players with level 100s who still dont shoot

runic dragon
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they didn't know who to shoot, who to trust, some players are like that

limber lily
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And I feel like this discussion is getting out of hand. So we put an end to it.

vivid blaze
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@limber lily no no

limber lily
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Yes yes.

vivid blaze
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Stop ignoring the problem

runic dragon
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it's evolving into a huge argument

limber lily
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There is no Problem here

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^

vivid blaze
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You're making it a huge argument

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I came with a simple point

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But u brought in all the lame excuses and unrealistic problems

runic dragon
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you're not understanding what we say, and you're just saying our points are invalid w no reason behind your reasoning

limber lily
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So thanks for saying your idea, but I dont really see a point in adding it as it isnt a problem

runic dragon
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let's end this discussion it isn't doing any good

vivid blaze
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Ok so when its absolutely necessary to shoot u just wanna vote the liar who can be fool

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Which in fact is the real risk

limber lily
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I said end of it

vivid blaze
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Instead of shooting which is a safe option

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@limber lily Stop ignoring my point

limber lily
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Stop ignoring my question

vivid blaze
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Stop thinking that you're always right. If you're wrong about something which u are rn, admit it

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Instead of trying to end the argument which has hardly even started

limber lily
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I can also mute you and end it that way. And I dont seem to be the only one who disagrees with you.

vivid blaze
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Well I've discussed about this similar point before too, and it's only u who's disagreeing with me and showing me your ego

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And btw @limber lily, such threats are really really, rude

limber lily
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its literally in the rules

runic dragon
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your point is that players deliberately don't shoot, do you understand the meaning of gamethrowing?
you have to be intentional to gamethrow
if you want to report these players there's "gamethrowing" for you to report under. starting a new category is not needed

vivid blaze
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That is fine I agreed to it. But what you're arguing about is that you're being defensive of gunners who deliberately don't shoot when needed

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The argument was about you defending the gamethrowing than agreeing to my point

limber lily
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Because there are reasons why they dont shoot.

vivid blaze
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...

limber lily
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@snow ruin Are you there?

snow ruin
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Yes

vivid blaze
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@limber lily when shooting is necessary, there is no excuse not to shoot

limber lily
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Can you tell me if its gamethrowing if a gunner isnt shooting?

runic dragon
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you can report under 'gamethrowing' if you think it's needed

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i agree that gunners need to shoot, but absolute no need to start another category for them

vivid blaze
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@limber lily for the last time.... I repeat that its gamethrowing not to shoot only when NECESSARY.

runic dragon
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if the gunner doesn't deem it necessary?

vivid blaze
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Guys, before u continue, plz google the meaning of obvious

runic dragon
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it may be obvious to you but not to some players.

limber lily
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I just wait for Renard, he is a trusting guardian and will know it

runic dragon
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i've seen you in game. some things i deem obvious, you didn't get it either, same thing w the gunners sometimes

vivid blaze
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A player who clearly lied. He claimed to be a role which was dead, so at this point he's either a fool or ww. We ask gunner to shoot him and he doesn't shoot, in the end we lose coz village lynched him

snow ruin
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If a gunner don't shoot and let the wolves win its gametrowing but if he just want to keep his bullets he can but the solo role or wolves mustn't win so its not considered like gamethrowing

I will sleep after answering you

vivid blaze
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Oh ok wow. So a player who claimed a dead role isn't obvious to some people? Wow

limber lily
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And there is your answer. Thanks a lot Renard, sleep well ♡

sacred sable
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Sleep well, Renard

snow ruin
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But it depend of the game

vivid blaze
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Yeah. You can find my point in Renard's answer also

runic dragon
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sometimes, you're demanding a lot from level 3s lmao

sacred sable
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Snep, where you pfp go?

limber lily
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He was fool, not solo or ww.

snow ruin
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bcaSleep1 👋🏻

vivid blaze
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And that's exactly my point all this time. The gunner deliberately didn't shoot and let the fool win, but all this time you guys have been showing me your ego instead of understanding something so simple

limber lily
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And now really, end it. Renard has stated it, there wont be a new category or auto report.

runic dragon
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he might have thought said player is a ww. or anything. if his general performance isn't too bad you can tell obviously that it's not intentional

vivid blaze
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That's fine. The argument was about the gunner thing anyways. Not the separate category thing

limber lily
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The discussion lost its original problem and wont be continued

runic dragon
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okay end this

vivid blaze
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Dude whatever. Bye

quaint bramble
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You can report them for gamethrowing, this was already said multiple times

vivid blaze
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No wonder I've even said it before also. It's literally a headache to talk on this channel

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Have fun. Bye bye and good night 👋

sacred sable
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Maje, has anyone suggested a sort of sub-options for ranked yet?

quaint bramble
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sub-options?

sacred sable
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Like, if you wanna play casual or get real tryhard-y about it

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Have separate choices for that

quaint bramble
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If you wanna play casual, thats not ranked mode then

runic dragon
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casual is quick game

vivid blaze
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@quaint bramble Yeah we can report them I understand that but your other helper kept arguing and defending the gamethrowing gunners. Coming up with absolutely nonsense and lame statements

sacred sable
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Was an example, but thanks for shooting me down so fast

vivid blaze
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That's why the argument kept on going worse

sacred sable
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Ima go back to general

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And people wonder why ranked is so shit

limber lily
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The discussion is over

quaint bramble
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@sacred sable If you want to suggest a different game mode you can, if it well explained, but ranked is not supposed to be casual

runic dragon
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gets better in higher sp ranked

orchid apex
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Hello guys

sacred sable
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Much as I'd like to play ranked
Not gonna deal with everyone jumping down my throat because the game is so important
You win either a piece of an outfit or gold <<
Not much to win there

runic dragon
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a badge for top players sounds good eh 🤔

orchid apex
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I think paci is too strong overall. Rv that can prove right away, and can even confirm others rvs. I dont know if this is the channel but id do it anyway.

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What do u guys think about reworking Pacifist s he CANT reveal day 1?

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Both Paci and Mayor.

runic dragon
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if he can't reveal d1 he won't be revealing for the rest of the game
that's not a big impact for mayor though

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just imo la

orchid apex
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I just think revealing right away is super good. He can reveal other rvs

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Its just too easy

sacred sable
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I don't see why Paci csn't reveal day 1, seeinc it doesn't kill with it. Gunner even can kill dsy 1, when Voting starts, but 9/10 times it's random

runic dragon
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i have to agree on paci being op, it'd have to be fixed, but this doesn't sound like the best solution to me

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just my opinion idk

orchid apex
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I just think confirming 2 rvs day from the get go is too strong

sacred sable
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Tbf, granny takes a day to prove

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But Paci also stops Voting

orchid apex
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I think being unable to reveal day 1 is the way to go. It sounds nice to me. What do u think?

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It doesnt matter if it stops voting

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U are saving one whole day of info

runic dragon
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as i said earlier i don't think paci would have the chance to reveal if not done first day 🤔

sacred sable
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Which reminds me
Any progress on that MM change?

orchid apex
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If u have a forky and a paci u can confirm since day one both of em

runic dragon
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which?

orchid apex
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Thats op imo

sacred sable
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Making it so MM can shoot day1 after msrking someone
Assuming target didn't die to solo/ww

runic dragon
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that, is too op

orchid apex
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Thats op lol

runic dragon
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mm is already op in general, he does not need another buff imo

sacred sable
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Hmmm

runic dragon
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i mean if the devs like it i can't say no
but the ratio of upvote to downvote is 2:1

sacred sable
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Is it impossible to make Jailer unable to kill n2?

orchid apex
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Ahahahaha

runic dragon
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no, and it's not ideal to me

orchid apex
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I think reworking RVs is the best way to balance tye game right now

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Village is broken lmao

quaint bramble
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yeah I've seen some interesting rv reworks being posted

sacred sable
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And being honest, I can see why MM got that suggestion
Seeing MM usually replaces Gunner in sandbox

runic dragon
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not in ranked

orchid apex
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Well i would say

runic dragon
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if mm can shoot day 1 i'm leaving wwo

orchid apex
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Paci ane mayor revealing day 2 onwards

sacred sable
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Not often I see mm in ranked though
Though I often see two docs and two priests

orchid apex
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TG ane BG die ir attacked directly

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If

quaint bramble
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If marksman would be changed to shooting faster, then it would need to be upgraded to strong villager for sure

runic dragon
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yes yes maje you're right

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so it won't appear in ranked? 🤔

quaint bramble
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Seeing mm replace gunner in gold or higher might be interesting 👀

sacred sable
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Wasn't Tube planning plat to replace Gunner

runic dragon
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that comp was imbalanced though

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mm might replace gunner but not in his comp

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it made village even more broken

sacred sable
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Spraking of replacing
I still say Santa in quickplay should replace one of the seer roles
Instead of my baby boi BG

limber lily
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@sacred sablemy pfp is still there btw its a gif

sacred sable
runic dragon
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no need to delete that, it's a valid point

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i don't agree with it replacing a seer too even tho i never do quick game. doc or bg is more reasonable replacement

sudden dock
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maybe add an outline so its easier to see avatars?

runic dragon
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🤔

sacred sable
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Setto
Quickplay has THREE seer roles

runic dragon
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🤔

sacred sable
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Why not replace one?

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Doc/bg, two seers
Evens out

runic dragon
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let me think again

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the reason behind 3 seers is so doc and bg will have to decide who to prot imo

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so 2 seers 2 docs... uh not too good

sacred sable
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My reasoning is
People keep suiciding anyways as doc
So three seers, two dying n1 because wws & sk

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And no doc
Maybe even no med

runic dragon
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eh

sacred sable
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Though I guess it doesn't matter anyways
Two weeks left

runic dragon
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easy fix is to remove santa

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just endure these two weeks

sacred sable
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Meanwhile
Staying away from sandbox

languid cape
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All game modes are scary

sacred sable
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It likes to give me ww when zombie ig
And they're stupid rn

runic dragon
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ranked is less scary

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zb needs a nerf but i think if i suggest a nerf fab would kill me

languid cape
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Zombie v ww is hard

sacred sable
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bites through traps
someone said ppl turn regardless of live zombie, once bitten
some cases of zombie turning bitten n1

runic dragon
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i've always wondered if bh trap kills zomb, and if not, the reason behind

sacred sable
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Nah, it used to just stop them

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But now I guess they just go through it

languid cape
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Because its a solo

runic dragon
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ew

sacred sable
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On top of more xp

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"Ppl keep throwing for zombie win"

all these broken perks to zombies

runic dragon
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Including the zombie and pacifist free xp stuff that has been happening in custom games

sacred sable
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It's like camping the roofs on Highrise in MW2

runic dragon
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This has probably been left in feedback by a number of people but there really needs to be some changes with the zombie role to make the game more fair. Either that or they just need to get rid of zombie all together

sacred sable
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My say?
They want broken solo role?
Custom only.

runic dragon
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nerf it all

sacred sable
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Nah, let them keep op zombies
In custom

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And make it 2000 gold

runic dragon
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ew

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zombie is a problem in custom also though because of free xp farms with the zombie and pacifist games

sacred sable
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It's already 1000

runic dragon
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i'm only fine with zombies if they don't get in ranked, the only mode i play

sacred sable
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And levels mean nothing to this game lol

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You unlock new masks every 10 levels from what I see

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That cost roses

runic dragon
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isn't it just gold?

chrome thunder
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Why "homo" is censored?

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It shouldn't be

sacred sable
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Homo is a derogstory slur

runic dragon
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yea

chrome thunder
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I don't see it as such

sacred sable
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Like that n-word everyone keeps censor dodging

runic dragon
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you don't see it as such, doesn't mean the devs don't

languid cape
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Im gonna go check ranked

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Hope its not like b4 😂

sacred sable
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Besides, you literally can't call anyone anything without any negative feelings to the word
Without someone managing to get upset over it

runic dragon
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it's getting worse yumi

chrome thunder
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The n-word is different, because that word was created as a slur, while homo is litteraly part the name of the human race (homo-sapiens).

runic dragon
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uh

sacred sable
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Homo is short for homosexual-

runic dragon
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it's just not that good

chrome thunder
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And being homosexual is not bad...

sacred sable
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You call humans, humans

runic dragon
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it's better not to use it entirely... some people get offended

sacred sable
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Again, fact is that someone, somewhere will be offended by it

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Like they need to censor boomer now

chrome thunder
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Ik but someone was being homophobic and I couldn't say "you are homophobic" in chat.

runic dragon
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Again, fact is that someone, somewhere will be offended by it
i wonder when they'll censor potato

sacred sable
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Potato is food though

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And cannibal eats potatoes

runic dragon
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it's not nice to say that @chrome thunder

chrome thunder
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He was being homophobic

runic dragon
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and i call noobs potatoes

chrome thunder
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I already reported it tho

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But still

sacred sable
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I call afks potatoes

chrome thunder
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I said "you are being homophobic dude, stop"

sacred sable
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No talking, no checking roles, no nothing
Just sitting there

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Like a couch potato

runic dragon
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dude, it's not good to call him that

chrome thunder
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But it ended up like "you are being ----phobic dude"

runic dragon
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excuse me so you want to uncensor a word that offends people left and right

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you got our answer which is no

chrome thunder
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Why does it offend

sacred sable
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We should censor Hitler too tbh

chrome thunder
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^^

runic dragon
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🤔

chrome thunder
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Homo is censored but Hitler is not

runic dragon
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you could do that

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why are you so concerned about homo being censored i don't even use it in games

sacred sable
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Ist of words to censor:
Hitler
Boomer
B00mer
Every iteration of the n-word (except ||niga|| )

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I wanna be able to say shenanigans without being body blocked because some loophole shmucks

runic dragon
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would be funny if someone misspelled bomber as boomer and got censored

sacred sable
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Why is titi censored too, anyways?

runic dragon
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what's a titi

sacred sable
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I say censor boomer because of all this "ok boomer" nonsense
And idek

runic dragon
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nvm. i think i don't want to know

sacred sable
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Competition

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A lot of words with titi in them

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Is titty even censored?

runic dragon
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uh

sacred sable
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I know tit isn't

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And tit is a kind of bird

runic dragon
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it needs to be censored

quaint bramble
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For censorship suggestions, dm them to a staff. we wont ever add them to fb-devs anyway...

runic dragon
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huh ok

sacred sable
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Hmmm, I see

chrome thunder
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Oof

runic dragon
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dm to who

sacred sable
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Kem, silly

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Guardian manager

quaint bramble
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No...?

runic dragon
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ooh ok

sacred sable
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Nah
Arnaud or Lisa?

quaint bramble
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Guardians dont control the censor thing

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only the devs do, so yeah i guess message it to a minimod+ and we will get it discussed/passed on

chrome thunder
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Guardians are like ig mods if I know correctly

quaint bramble
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I really need to get some standardized procedure about the filter/censor..

runic dragon
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oh u might want it pinned too

sacred sable
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And/or someone that isn't a dev that directly deals with it

runic dragon
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so we don't spam you maje

sacred sable
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Call them the PR/HR of wwo

runic dragon
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PR

sacred sable
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Not to be confused with your clan

runic dragon
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don't do PR it attracts hate

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HR sounds better

sacred sable
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Human resources

runic dragon
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ye but i guess we aren't on the topic anymore

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let's end this here?

sacred sable
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And I can't think of any new suggestions tn

quaint bramble
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yeah as I thought, its best to dm the suggestions to Lisa, or link her to the relevant discussion here

sacred sable
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That don't involve trying to obliterate zombies

runic dragon
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^^'

quaint bramble
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I mean, I will hope someone else will answer that, I was gonna review like 5 role ideas hat I got pinged for 👀

runic dragon
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sorry maje two of them was mine

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take your time, i'll leave that there

median elbow
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@sacred sable I say Okay Boomer when the seers accuse me

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Or hh day 1...

sacred sable
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Had a game where three days of seer & fool calling me boomer lol
They don't even know what it means-

runic dragon
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i guess a joke shouldn't get censored

sacred sable
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One even said he was a,"full grown man"

runic dragon
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but titi what's a titi why is it censored

sacred sable
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Titi is Filipino for pin

runic dragon
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what

sacred sable
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... and also dicc

runic dragon
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oh

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forget it

sacred sable
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M'kay

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The more you know

runic dragon
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i shouldn't

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i'll pretend this didn't happen

devout rose
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บอท

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Bot

quaint bramble
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@devout rose Heya can I help you with anyting? In english please or go to #thai

sudden dock
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this got stuck a bit far up😅

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There should be an outline so its easier to see avatars.

runic dragon
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But the original is fun 😆😆

sudden dock
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trueee

runic dragon
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i thought outlines aren’t allowed for the outfit?

quaint bramble
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its not for the outfit, just for the profile view thingy

runic dragon
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🤔

quaint bramble
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@sudden dock Hm its not the most elegant solution.. how about some sort of soft glow instead?

runic dragon
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the outlines would look better if it’s softer

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the colour i mean

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not hard to the eyes, something like grey

sudden dock
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Either could work

sacred sable
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Didn't someone suggest being able to choose dark/light for profile?

sudden dock
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yes

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I suggested a day/night mode

runic dragon
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Fbmsnsnznz

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Hi

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Sjjaja

quaint bramble
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@runic dragon heya please only use this channel for game/server suggestions, not this random stuff

runic dragon
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Sorry honey

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I am new

opaque pollen
sage night
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If 'your' gonna ban somebody for inappropriate username and after the ban is finished and you don't let them change their username for a few days... Might as well make add the "few days" which you cant change your username to the ban lengh... I find it pointless to not allow somebody to change their username after their "Inappropriate Username Ban" is over.

warm helm
sage night
runic dragon
dull summit
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Well i dont like people trolling in the game.

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Please do something

runic dragon
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I love this game keep makeing the game amazing voteyes

silk shale
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Silver ranked games, especially placement games only depend on luck. So here is my suggestion for placement games: let everyone play the placement games in the league they reached last season. Also, you will start at the minimum points to reach this league except bronze because it would be 0. (silver 1400, gold 1700, bronze 1100). During the placement games you cant drop out of your league or get higher. After you played all placement games you will play in the league that fits to your skill points

serene compass
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in the description of seer it says ‘his role’ but it would be better to make it ‘their role’ like in the night activity thing

runic dragon
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@silk shale that would give a lot of advantage to older players and new players to ranked would have to be stuck in seer games even if they’re as good a player as those said older players, and being stuck in seer games is depressing and infuriating ngl, imo the system now is better in some way
and i don’t agree on seer games being 100% luck. more like 50/50 skill/luck

latent saddle
light edge
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So do people understand the importance of evil alliance? Because it doesn't seem like it.

runic dragon
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Not all of them come with eyes and a mask tho

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@light edge they’ll never understand

lament knoll
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@sage night it's not rly useless, you got banned because your username is bad, just don't create a bad username to begin with, the changing name block got added so the people don't change their name back right away to that inappropriate thing because then the ban would be kind of useless?

You get a couple of days off the game but if it's just gonna get changed back either way that is no resonable consequence afterwards either, especially if it's one of your first bans and only one or three days.... people will just have to put up with that username all over again

sage night
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I don't get what your trying to say.

lament knoll
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I'm trying to say the username block is there for a reason, for the reason that people won't take that inappropriate username right after the ban again.

You get the privileges back to play but not the ones to change your username back, this delay has a reason and it helps or else the guardians wouldn't work with it

sage night
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I mean Ofc my Username is Bad so i got banned by it. But wdym " The changing people block ......"

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ohh

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I see.

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Why not just banned the Username.

lament knoll
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I mean i get your feedback just wanted to give you that point of view :p

That's actually a good idea but idk if that is possible👀

wanna suggest that? :p
I think it has not been suggested before and with a dev online he might agree with it or tell why it's not possible

sage night
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i mean sure I will take the ban because its my responsibility for using the name. But why not after u got ban for it,in the same time banned that inappropriate username i used.

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If you get stuck for with the username u got banned for, for a few days. It basically means you can't join a game because people will report you of it.
Thats basically the reason behind my feedback.

lament knoll
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@sage night i was told that guardians change the username to something appropriate and then they make the user unable to change it tho

sage night
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o

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sToP tYpInG ParAgRaPHs

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!min! ♡•{B💋 }•♡ makin designeu is typing...

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I have been seeing that same thing appear above my text bar more then 50 times.

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aHhH

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Its been 7 Minutes😭

sacred sable
sage night
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lol

sacred sable
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Stop heckling the staff <<

sage night
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heckling?

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aight im out

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legend has it that he is still typing till now

sacred sable
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Please stop. <<""

lament knoll
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Heyyy @runic dragon

Majestical answered it so i suppose she was asking for confirmation by the feedback giver and another visual example probably?
Or in other words the details about how it should work were probably fishy so she did not post it yet?

I would personally post it if @sudden dock could make an example where it has a less hairsh outline, meaning one with less opacity or maybe another effect/make the outline grey, smth like that ^^

Heyyy @runic dragon

Thanks for that feedback! It's amazing to hear, because we, the staff team, and the developers are constantly trying to improve the game, whilst we are mostly mediums in that term, we can also just thank the playerbase for keep playing it and coming up with new suggestions!

Heyy @silk shale

A couple if not even most of these suggestions have already been suggested and posted before around the time of november, we are aware of that issue and also looking forward to the devs changing it,, tho i think i could still post this suggestion as a small reminder.

Thanks for your feedback and your dedication to improving the gameplaying experience voteyes single_rose

Heyyy @serene compass

Yes, we are aware of this issue and i do believe i reposted that already only just this month!

I do agree with it, as gender equality, between men and women and also non genderous people should only be encouraged in the game as well!

Still thank you for your time and your suggestion and i will add a +1 in the database for you! voteyes

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Heyyy @latent saddle

I do get this idea but you must also take into consideration that the eyes might be on the mask because they need to be bigger/higher on the mask than on the avatar template because the mask is also bigger so in relation that needs to match

So maybe most/many eyes won't be compatible with the holes in the mask and that is why the designer took it away to make it more compatible for mix and matching!

Thank your for your time and your feedback tho! ^^ single_rose

sage night
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holy

lament knoll
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@sage night you are not the only person which has provided feedback in this channel and others deserve a response as well.
Just stay patient i'll get to you.

sudden dock
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Alright i will make a smaller outline asap

sage night
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I alr got my response

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I'm just commenting

lament knoll
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Alrightt @sage night i'll post you suggestion about banning whole usernames as an addition to your feedback above!

Thanks for your suggestion and your time. Have a nice day! voteyes

graceful skiff
#

In FAQ description of how do I get gold, playing and winning ranked are missing in the list.

sage night
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Ə

lament knoll
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Well then -> stop
Anything that's not serving the purpose of this channel is not welcomed here and only floads unnecessarily.

sage night
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"and only floads unnecessarily" ?-?-?

lament knoll
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Ohh @graceful skiff

Alright!
In game right? I'll see if i can directly contact the person which made the FAQ and tell them to add it ^^

Thanks for pointing that out 💕

runic dragon
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uh @lament knoll , maje did respond but it was to another feedback not that

graceful skiff
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yes

sage night
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bye

lament knoll
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@runic dragon it was the one that you linked she responded to

sudden dock
runic dragon
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😳

latent saddle
old kernel
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The staff hunt is always at a convenient time where I am either sleeping or travelling

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Start staff hunt now

lament knoll
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@old kernel we can't start a staff hunt out of the blue because we need to find a date where many staff members can participate beforehand

Just keep an eye out on #event-announcements
Maybe the next one will start at a time that's better for you ^^

old kernel
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It said today👌

latent saddle
sudden dock
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That could work as well!

mighty birch
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@old kernel Just as FYI... "today" started 3 hours ago for USA 😛

old kernel
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🤔

mighty birch
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Typo

lament knoll
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Plenty of time👀

old kernel
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Friday "today" in the "usa"

mighty birch
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Think outside your own timezone

old kernel
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I know

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But im not sure where wwo is located

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There are parts of the us where it's the complete oposite time of day

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Just the day when here is night

mighty birch
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Exactly 😉

old kernel
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Where exactly is wwo located?

mighty birch
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Germany, that's where Philipp lives

old kernel
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Gotcha, thanks

mighty birch
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Np!

sacred sable
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Actually

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Today started 8:28 ago for me

plucky vault
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Echt nice game würde aber limited time modes machen wo es nur zwei Rollen gibt oder so

lapis perch
#

I think @quaint bramble should be a guardian

mellow stone
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Hello... just wondering why when I write idiot or the poop emoji it gets censored but when people write f $#@ and ni $#@a it's fine

quaint bramble
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The censor cant detect words with spaces, but you can still report people who say it like that

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@mellow stone

mellow stone
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Yeah that's not working for me for some reason

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I open the Players screen and when I click on a name it shows the little load icon for a brief millisecond and then it goes away and nothing happens.

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whatever... either censor it all or don't. you know that people are getting away with racial slurs by just putting spaces in the middle of the word but you censor things like the poop emoji

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instead of taking care of the real problem... let's protect the children from the word idiot

quaint bramble
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They dont get away woth anything they get reported and banned for those things

mellow stone
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i believe you, it's just obnoxious for those of us that watch these ads and buy these packs and when you want to use the poo emoji you're censored but some idiot can go around calling people the n word and telling us to f off only for them to come back later with a whole new account

karmic delta
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I have posted a post about werewolf online in ig which has to be submitted via arnaud first but the story doesn't progress at all. I've been waiting for a while If the person performing the duties here is not enough, then add more people.

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😂 😂 😂

sterile spire
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It would be nice to fix invitations on ios, I still don't get them..

sand dome
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wrong channel, ignore that if you saw it

cyan wedge
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Pure

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Pute

quaint bramble
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@karmic delta heya the mods get alot of dm's hosting events in the past few days, so please try to send your link again ^^

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@sterile spire heya since this bug is caused by IOS update its a little tricky to fix, Im sorry

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@cyan wedge heya please dont chat in here and 'pute' isnt a nice word...

echo bluff
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I got 300wiews can i get Me reward

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Chanel name: omg gamer

median elbow
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There are a lot of throwers in gold league right now however I think ranked should be treated differently than quick play and sandbox. The gunner, priest, and pacifist should be authorized to use their ability day 1 for quick actions.
Let's say a jr ww says water X fast and the priest dies, this would give the gunner the opportunity to nullify a jr ww tag with a fast enough reaction time with a successful retaliation.

quaint bramble
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@echo bluff send the link to your video to a moderator, @meager gyro or @pallid merlin

echo bluff
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How

runic dragon
languid cape
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Yeah agree with RGTube

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Pacifist and gunner should be able to use skill before voting

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At least in gold league

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Maybe

quaint bramble
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@echo bluff I added their names in my mesage above, click on one of them and send them the link in private message

echo bluff
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Can u tell Lisa to rite to me

quaint bramble
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no, you should message her yourself, bu right now she has a lot of messages because of the event, its best to send it to arnaud

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@median elbow @languid cape Hm Im not sure about this, those limits were added for a reason and you do still have priest for this

echo bluff
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Wath Me video to se its real

median elbow
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But this is ranked, not quick play. Ranked is for "serious" games where random shooting is "rare", quick play is for new players that need these limitations.

languid cape
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Pacifist revealing before voting would be extremely helpful

quaint bramble
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if paci reveals at the beginning of vote its still early enough
andthey got enough time to announce themselves

median elbow
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It's like saying "hey let's limit the mayor to only reveal himself during the 1st voting phase"

runic dragon
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why can gunner shoot after discussion it feels like a useless update but priest can water before

median elbow
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And if the recent #feedback-devs gets added don't expect me to claim aura during the discussion phase

languid cape
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If that gets added idk what else 😅

quaint bramble
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Oof I didnt see that... well its got my 👎 now

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priest should be allowed because its a risk, while for gunner it's gamethrow and more impactful for the village

median elbow
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I still think the gunner and paci should vary based on game mode

languid cape
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I would say in ranked they rarely gamethrow

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But I would be wrong 😂

quaint bramble
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it makes roles easier to understand and probably less buggy if they are consistent between game modes

languid cape
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I dont think a gunner would random shoot first 5 seconds in a ranked game tho

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Oh thats right

quaint bramble
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I sadly have to say, I think they would

languid cape
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Thats exactly why skipping some lobbies is a thing.

runic dragon
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Hey

vivid blaze
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There's a slight issue for me ig rn. I cannot report people. Whenever I click on the name nothing pops up

runic dragon
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@vivid blaze even i have the same issue

languid cape
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Everyone has that problem

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It’ll fix with the next server restart

runic dragon
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Headhunters target is still not really clear.. (for me)
Maybe they target their "box" should get a red shine for a few seconds. Just like when you die..

serene lotus
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Hi I think it has already been suggested before, but a nightmode for the game would be really great. The winter background is even much lighter than the regular one and looking at it for a longer amount of time is kind of exhausting in my opinion

toxic sapphire
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hey, idk if someone already said it but we can’t see if our friends are online or not :/

quaint bramble
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@vivid blaze @toxic sapphire heya both of these problems are the result of a server bug at the moment, the devs are aware of it and it will be fixed once they restart the server. I cant tell for sure whn this willhappen though, sorry

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@runic dragon How about adding a pink chat message instead? Something like 'X is your target, you win if you can get themlynched!'

runic dragon
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That would be amazing!
Because of the people their skins. Its not easy to see.
Red ane white..

quaint bramble
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@serene lotus heya we do indeed have a few similar ideas posted already and it's been passed on to the devs.. Im not sure if the are already working on it though sorry.

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@runic dragon I will post it then ^^

runic dragon
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Hey @quaint bramble

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Please add your name to the idea too.

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You really helped me with the idea. So you should get credits too (:

quaint bramble
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But.. ok fine

runic dragon
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❤️
Dont argue

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For custom games I feel like there needs to be a random voting role for fool and hh

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If that is a common suggestion than sorry

craggy dagger
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Lets make ranked games have a random voting role slot instead of hh or fool whilst we’re at it

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Stop all these dam hhs outing day 1

quaint bramble
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@runic dragon Already suggested before and on the devs to-do list ^^

runic dragon
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Yea I thought it could have been

silk shale
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There should also be a message if the headhunter´s target dies. Like "Your target died! You are now on the village team!"

quaint bramble
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@silk shale hm i dont think thats super needed, but I will add it onto the last fb post anyway

sacred sable
#

Has anyone suggested a sort of layer system for avatar you can set?
Like if you want a mask to be covered by the hair instead of over everything
Or say, having the front item be partially covered by any long hair

quaint bramble
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being able to change the layers has been suggested before I think, Im not sure if this is technically possible

sacred sable
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Fair, but still be nice to cover mask with hair and such

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Cuz you know, realism

azure plover
#

I have a question. Is it true, that in first row can be only one werewolf? One of my friends noticed it.

quaint bramble
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@azure plover Next time please use #questions and no that is absolutely not true. Werewolf numbers are random, they can be all in the same row, or different rows, there is no rules for it

next escarp
#

there should be a feature to pin clothing items so you don’t have to scroll all the way down your inventory

quaint bramble
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there is now a setting that you can make gold items appear at the top of your inventory

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I know that doesnt solve everything...

quaint bramble
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@sick cave Please dont post reporting screenshots here though, I think I have asked you this before.
And the bans start off at 48 hours usuallty, and increase on the next one...

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Report them ingame, this is enough for gamethrowing.

sick cave
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Wasn't a report

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Just a suggestion for harsher punishment and I don't think it was me who reported here before lol...
But still 48 hours is nothing not even missing a quest like that

quaint bramble
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Well you dont need to incriminate others to make your point here...

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2 days is a pretty solid amount to start off with, new players might not even come back to the game after 2 days

sick cave
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Well sorry I might be a bit mad with all the trolls today and no way to report em

eager mist
#

How do I change my account email?

runic dragon
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It’s kind of too late to do this now but I think the werewolf online theme played when you first open the app should have a Christmas type of ring to it with some Christmas bells or something when Christmas rolls around again next year. If you’ve played Hay Day during the holidays you’d know what I mean. I know Crush is the guy who makes music for WWO but it’s just a suggestion

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@eager mist If you didn't Sign up with Gmail or Facebook then you can change it following a few steps: Go to main menu => Settings => Account => edit email

Also there's a channel for #questions

sacred sable
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@quaint bramble
About that...
That option to show gold items is more "reversing" your inventory <<

quaint bramble
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yes i know...?

mental merlin
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@quaint bramble Okay so in the inventory there is option for it right?

quaint bramble
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it's in regular settings, not in the inventory
and yeah all it does is basically reverting your items

runic dragon
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uh

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im pretty sure the word ||hentai|| is allowed ig?

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it should be blocked lol

meager gyro
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Will take it to the suggestion list
Thanks for your feedback! ❤️

mental merlin
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@runic dragon Reported

runic dragon
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🤦‍♀️ wdym @mental merlin

sacred sable
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Hentai means pervert
But is also used as NSFW

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@meager gyro
On the subject of censoring words...
Kys should be censored cuz is scronym for telling someone to suicide
Boomer should be because it's basically the new n-word
And dunno about historical people, but Hitler for sure

lament knoll
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That is censored tho👀

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Some people surpass it by using a Capital i as L

sacred sable
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Along with every other word v.v

runic dragon
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Boomer means literally nothing bad tho👀

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Its describing a person born from a specific time

regal ivy
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How about making something like in minesweeper u can place something like an "flag" to mark people who you think are village / confirmed as villager

runic dragon
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huh

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🤷‍♀️ @lament knoll ah its not censored for me?

lament knoll
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@runic dragon hm what r u talking about

sacred sable
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@runic dragon
What matters is how they use the word
And they use it as derogatory slang/slur

runic dragon
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Soo just cause some people get offended by it all of the sudden it needs to be banned

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It's a meme it will all die over soon enough

sacred sable
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Like why titi is censored in ENGLISH

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Because in Portuguese it's a bad word

lament knoll
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cause it contains "tit" as well

sacred sable
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Actually

runic dragon
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Cause they all use the same filter

sacred sable
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Tit isn't censored

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And they don't lol

runic dragon
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Well mostly

sacred sable
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Ppl with Russian or German have used swears in friend lobby that English cant

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Without bypassing

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Suck is censored in English, but not in many others

lament knoll
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Well i got a bunch of people which speak french and cant said censored english words so....

runic dragon
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Same also some random english letters that spell nothing bad in english trigger the system

lament knoll
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"Je vais prendre une douche" -> "douche" being censored, means "shower" in french but it's still censored for them

sacred sable
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Douche is also a ||tampon brand in America||

lament knoll
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||and an insult in english lul||

sacred sable
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Yes

lament knoll
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Heyy @regal ivy

This seems like a nice idea to me, reminds me alot of the system of Trouble in Terrorist Town where you could mark people as "friend" "enemy" and "suspect"

Tho in a strategy game with real information it seems a bit not fitting... you could easily mark confirmed villagers and the whole idea of not remembering who claimed first and so the wws might win through causing confusion would get lost...

Thanks for your suggestion tho! It's appreciated :3 single_rose

forest rover
lament knoll
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Heyyy @forest rover

We prefer to use the word "overlooked" because we do not ignore suggestions, it can only happen that we overlook some because the channel is too crowded, or well, simply because we are only human beings...

This seems like a nice idea tho, i'll give it a post in #feedback-devs for you, thanks for your suggestion! voteyes single_rose

serene compass
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maybe add underneath the outfits what zodiac sign it is? maybe it’s just me but i’m capricorn and honeslty have no idea which one that iskoekje

sacred sable
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Agreed.
Which one is Sagi?

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And I s2g two of them look the same but are different signs?

serene compass
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i don’t know all zodiac in english or what some of their looks are so no clue on some of them

sacred sable
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Well, assume 1 is capri cuz goat horns

forest rover
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The apple one @sacred sable 👀

serene compass
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that one is the sheep version

sacred sable
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They
All show female versions though

forest rover
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I think 1 is ♈️ not sure 🤔

sacred sable
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Right, Aries

forest rover
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Because first is Aries 👀

sacred sable
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They're not in order though-

serene compass
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i thought that one is taurus

forest rover
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I saw they’re not in order

sacred sable
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Sagittarius is 12th zodiac

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And is 9th on list

lament knoll
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@serene compass the order is:
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Saggitarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and lastly Pisces 👀

But yesh i agree on that kinda :p

Tho it should, ideally be recognisable

forest rover
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Capricorn is 10th

serene compass
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that can’t be true min

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since the one u said is capricorn is sagi thingy

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with the bow

forest rover
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No Capricorn is the 10th

serene compass
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the fish thing?

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what

forest rover
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Yes with the tail

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It has a goat as front item

lament knoll
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And horns

serene compass
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ohh bruh😂😂

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i was like that’s a fish not an animal

lament knoll
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I'm never wrong with outfits👀

sacred sable
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Fish tail, ye

serene compass
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anyway, i still think it could be added since it causes confusion 😂

sacred sable
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Yes

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And same for the dog ones too tbh
<<
Not a dog person so cba to remember breeds

lament knoll
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@sacred sable also i think they show female versioms to female users?

forest rover
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Maybe put it in the zodiac order

sacred sable
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I wouldn't kmow, I never changed my gender in-game to male

modest pebble
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Add an in-game feature for rule breaking detailed help-guide. I believe there’s a record of rule breaking history made by players and possible acts that may or may not be reportable so not only will there be less people suffer from bans unaware but there will be better gameplays without it too.

serene compass
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anyway i’m off to sleep and min u should sleep too it’s 3amGWczeAngryCry

lament knoll
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i can't i need to take care of bugs, feedback and i need to design

serene compass
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wild

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u don’t need to design thoGWlulurdMmmYea

lament knoll
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i do

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Heyyy @modest pebble

Well actually, the rules just got an update so they should be clear now i guess?👀

What exactly do you mean with "rule breaking detailed help-guide" ?
Like a very very long handbook thing explaining all edge cases and so on?👀

I'm afraid this would get too big and only very very very less people would care to actually read it through as players barely even read the rules anyways👀

We had a suggestion about a pop-up like message, every time while you open the app and it sets up, which states a rule or a hint for better playing etc, his seems like a good idea for your stated problem, doesn't it?

If yes may i get you the link for it so you can upvote? single_rose

sacred sable
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Small ree:
Sagittarius *

lament knoll
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Idk what u mean goo!

sacred sable
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The spelling

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I sqw the edit, thanky

modest pebble
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@lament knoll Hmm or whenever a question regarding reporting a scenario should get stored in a library here in discord for valid & invalid reports?

stuck obsidian
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Hello, I think it would be a good idea to put a lvl cap in sandbox. When you're trying out new roles and try to play it serious there's always a lvl 5 doc suiciding or some low lvl screwing it completely. Not to sound pro at all, but I think we can all agree that after spending quite some time on this game it's frustrating to get screwed by ppl learning the game. Sandbox is specifically to try out new roles and features, not train on the base game and I think that's what it's becoming

lament knoll
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@modest pebble so you mean something like the guardian guideline in #links in more detailed?

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Heyaaa @stuck obsidian

We are indeed aware of that issue and it's been suggested frequently, i'll add a +1 onto the database for you if you want me to?

I really hope this will get added, because i totally agree with it tbh, sandbox should be a more serious mode because we test new features voteyes

stuck obsidian
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@lament knoll I would love you too if you can (for the +1 part)

I thought I was alone on this one bc ppl tend to go "it's sandbooox c'mon it's not ranked" well I guess it should be

lament knoll
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That's the tea👀

runic dragon
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ah

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i dont like how the zodiac thing gives one random zodiac

median elbow
sacred sable
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Doubt?
I always vote based on my own bias

median elbow
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On the Sandbox server (Phillips other server) he asked us to dm out opinions on a feature so opinions are public and persuaded to go with someone else's opinion instead of your own opinion. That's why I don't like the majority vote being public and the app preselecting what the majority already thinks.

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This also causes and spam-click of the next button to create false reviews based on what the majority already believes.

sacred sable
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Addding on to Tube's thing:
Am finding repeats/mirrors of artists' outfits in Vote in the game
Either for some reason their male/female avatars are separate for whatever reason
Or people are getting very unoriginal...

runic dragon
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"Anty-Grind/Farm XP"

At the moment if you're level 200000 you need the same XP to reach a new level than being level 100 (2000 XP).

So to make the grind harder when you reach level 1000 you'll need to do 2200 XP instead.

Resume:

Level 1000 - 1500: You'll need 2200 XP to reach a new level.

Level 1501 - 2000: You'll need 2400 XP to reach a new level.

Level 2001 - 2999: You'll need 2600 XP to reach a new level.

Level 3000+ You'll need 3000 XP to reach a new level.

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Being honest, Lately I've been grinding too and probably will keep doing it because lost the fun to the other gamemodes. But I don't wanna if I reach level 1000 be that easy keep leveling up.

sacred sable
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But still
Is there even a reason to grind past like, 200?

runic dragon
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no

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honestly i don’t see much point in amending the xp needed to reach another level tbh, but idk it’s just my opinion

sacred sable
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Grrinding's allowed?
Just frowned upon?

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Cuz you csn't just, stop frens from custom game

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Anyways, feedback:
Sending roses in friend lobbies is broken AF
Keep it that way

runic dragon
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I'll just remove it to not inspire people to do 😕

sacred sable
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Remove what?

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I just sent 250 roses in like, 3 minutes in friend lobby
You lmow, "Play With Friends"

runic dragon
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though, i don’t see how setting the xp higher would stop grinding?

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wouldn’t it, like, encourage grinding instead when people think it’s too hard to go to next level by just normal playing so they grind

median elbow
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@sacred sable look at #questions I said your feedback but as a question

lapis drum
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QoL suggestion for Headhunter:

Include system msg in chat for hh that tells who target.

Reason: Even with new target, it’s hard to see it on white hair/hats at times.

Example:

7 psyoniqa is your target! Try to get them lynched to win!”

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Similar to couple message.

runic dragon
lapis drum
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Nice. Thanks.

sacred sable
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@median elbow No, you didn't lol
I saw the same outfits like, 2-4 times each as I voted them in the game

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Some were same outfit split as male/female separately

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Some were repeats that I had already voted earlier

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I wouldn't kmow about any of them being in game since I've been doing one clan quest for a month now

median elbow
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Fix gold league please or do something at least. I don't have any "thoughtful" feedback on this.
Maybe obvious game throwers can be sent to bronze league. Not questionable situations, obvious game throwers like this. Jail killing a day 1 gunner claim then suiciding is a huge issue.

sacred sable
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^
And in every gamemode, at that.

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"Am seer, 15 wwb"

votes 15, who was wwb
Jailer: jails seer Omae wa mou shindeiru
Also jailer: shoots

median elbow
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This is ranked, a "serious" playground

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If this roles for treated like the mm and priest it would be nice. Just kill these people.

normal wyvern
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Some people don't still get that the zodiac offer/puppy offer are random even it says the description. Maybe make the "random" bold (random) so people can't overread it

sacred sable
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I think the issue is that they don't WANT them to be random

modest pebble
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Players leaving the same room twice will not be able to enter that same room and instead will join the new room.

Players leaving at the very last second of game countdown forcing the game to start with <16 players, won’t be able to join a game temporarily for 5 mins fixed

bleak wren
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Hola

peak knot
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Remove the HH target mark from a revived player. It's confusing for new players.

sacred sable
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I think they said is visual bug

runic dragon
peak knot
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oh

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I redirected a screenshot sorry

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@sacred sable I know it's a visual bug, so remove it pls :)

sacred sable
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...

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They know of it and in progress??

peak knot
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Ok cool

normal wyvern
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@sacred sable Some people don't even know it is random because they overread it

runic dragon
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@peak knot ye I can't count the times I've explained that the hh is still a villager even though their target was revived

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Hey bott

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Bot

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Werewolf bot

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Bot

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Speak me please

median elbow
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I disagree with the recent #feedback-devs that says make a pop up because at the start if the season you could go back and forther between silver and gold several times.

dreamy vortex
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10 first map Hide Ranking. End

glacial warren
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@runic dragon Heya ^^ The new zodiac thing is just a way to get the zodiac offers and do not have to try it by buying random outfits. It is another category, which works like the normal random outfits. Yes there are/were issues, but I am pretty sure these are fixed soon ^^

@median elbow For me it looks like the vote gow it always were? You first can vote and then see the votr from the community? Did something change?

@sacred sable I think it is just an old or new version of the outfit and was reposted in the voting gallery. The designers are really creative WinkWinkWinkWinkWink The thing is, that they stay, even if a new version gets added. The male and female outfits are seperated because you can vote for both versions

@runic dragon Hey ^^ a similar system has been suggested but was declined by Philipp. Players with this level will suddenly be back on 100 as he said and thats not really fair ^^'

@sacred sable XD I know what you mean with broken roses, but this will be fixed as soon as possible. No bug abuse wiggly_finger

@median elbow I know this is what we always say, but please report them in game..... This is the way to go

@normal wyvern Well normally it should be obvious enough already, but this sounds like a good idea and I think I will post it in #feedback-devs ^^ Thank you for the suggestion Love
Even if I agree with Kit. This also does not mean, that it will change anything. If they do not read it or accept it, that is their thing. In my opinion it is already cool, that you can get them seperated from the other random outfits think

@modest pebble Something similar already has been suggested before ^^ Thank you for the suggestion anyways ^^

@peak knot well yes it is kinda visual

@median elbow you can dislike it ^^

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I am sorry for the late reply everyone ^^

normal wyvern
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@glacial warren Thank you ❤️

runic dragon
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hmm

chrome thunder
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Nerf kitten wolf

runic dragon
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yall should make it for u could play werewolf online in pc

rigid bronze
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@chrome thunder Any suggestions how to nerf it ?

@runic dragon already put to vote in #dev-vote but the ratio wasnt high enough :v

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And emulators work pretty fine

runic dragon
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I think someone from a while ago mentioned nerfing kww by converting the player into a cursed first

chrome thunder
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Make it so you couldn't convert strong villagers

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Since kitten, rn converts seer or med, and adds a team mate

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Basically taking the best of the village and on top of that adding a team mate

runic dragon
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When will fortes teller will out?

lament knoll
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Well considering they don't know the med etc yet kitten ww would work like a ww aura seer as well, considering that you shouldn't lose your ability if you tried to convert a strong villager cause it was an unprotected villager after all 👀

And at the moment, it is not sure if this got changed alread that you lose your convert if the target you tried to convert was protected, but you keep it if you tried to convert a solo role and so if you tried to convert a strong villager and keep your ability you know "okay that person is a strong villager or a solo so either way a threat"

Except if you loose your ability as well if you tried to convert a strong villager but i don't know if people would like this sort of nerf 👀

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@runic dragon we don't know yet, but probably once most people own the version 0.39.6/7 or basically once it is fixed and ready to release.

Also your profile picture violates our #rules-archived number 14, so if you want to keep being active in this server would you mind changing it to something else, please? single_rose

glacial warren
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@runic dragon min told you. If you don't change it in the next 5 mins I'll mute you

runic dragon
silk shale
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Add more random role categories for custom games

Random village informer
Seer
Aura
Spirit seer
Sheriff
Red lady
Seer apprentice (only in games with a seer)

Random village killing
Gunner
Jailer
Witch
Priest
Marksman
(maybe avenger too because he can kill when he dies)

Random village protector
Doc
Bg
Bh
Tg

Random village support
Villager (Forkman)
Med
Mayor
Paci
Flower Child
Grumpy Grandma
Fortune Teller
Avenger (if he isnt in killer category)

Random special villager
Cursed
Cupid
President

Random voting
Fool
Headhunter

runic dragon
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still

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you could ask for a repost ye

runic dragon
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Badges should be able to stick on gravestones

bright robin
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Coloquem partida rankiada para o Server brasileiro porfavor e tbm coloquem suporte de denunciar em português

runic dragon
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Please remove marksman from game, role is pretty weak and cant be used. Its really just hit or miss :(

sudden dock
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Im very frustrated right now. I just played a game with sect and the end of the game left me dry for words. The sect was in a couple with junior werewolf, and the game felt completely pointless. I was sected on night 3 not knowing about the couple situation, but as we approached end game the couple was revealed and everyine kind of went... berserk... no pun intended. About 3 or 4 players other than me were sected, so there was absolutely no chance for the village. We killed the second to last werewolf and on the last night of the game almost all of the villagers committed suicide, minus me. So, the last werewolf killed me and the couple won. It left me in such a (again pun not intended) frenzy. That is 15 minutes i will never get back, and it makes me upset. Please make it so that sect can not be in a couple with a werewolf.

runic dragon
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Gives cupid info

sudden dock
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Giving cupid info> 13 people getting frustrated

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And its been suggested for other roles to not be coupled.

runic dragon
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@glacial warren I'm not suggesting they be back on level 100 🤔

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I'm just suggesting that when you reach certain level you'll need more XP to reach a new one

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And why it's unfair?

glacial warren
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@runic dragon read again what I said

runic dragon
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If that's happens with level 20- 30 etc

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I read it, just still don't get it, what has of similar what I suggested with players be back to level 100?

ivory harbor
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I've been trying to play this game for 3 days only to have noobs or cheaters or gamethrowers ruin it. Tbh this game is so full of bugs, suiciders, noobs who don't know how to play properly, cheaters, gamethrowers, bullies, racists, drama, sexists, overpriced stuff, extreme xp requirements and staff up on their high horses that it really isn't fun to play anymore. Maybe if you fixed all the bugs and cheaters, I would appreciate the game. Only reason I play nowadays is to finish quests. It's really a failure. It sucks for us serious players who lose because the creators allow noobs to play sandbox.

next escarp
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its sadly not as easy as that 😅
if you could come up with ideas to fix these problems it would be great, the staff is hard-working ^^

ivory harbor
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For starters you could allow people to play sandbox from a certain level since all high level players play sandbox

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Are you taking notes or do you just sit on your high horses pretending to care?

next escarp
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i’m not even staff

ivory harbor
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Then why answer? I was talking to the developers not you

next escarp
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a staff is typing right now

ivory harbor
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I am aware

glacial warren
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@silk shale Hey ^^ As far as I know something similar has already been suggested, but I will post it in #feedback-devs Do you have anything to add?

@mighty cypress A repost is not necessary ^^

@runic dragon This actually sounds interesting think Thank you for your feedback ^^ Do you have anything to add? Lika pic or description?

@bright robin Servers will be added, if there are enough players which would actually play it. Currently it does not look like thats the case. Also please speak english here

@runic dragon Roles will not be removed, but maybe you have an idea how this could be improved?

@sudden dock It always debends on what the sect leader does. It already has been suggested before and was posted to ^^
Even then, thank you for the feedback and suggestion voteyes

@runic dragon It is about the fact, that players will loose their current level because another xp rule. That's what Philipp said. It was suggested to encrease the xp after every level, but this was the anser from him and yours is similar

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@ivory harbor Oh this sounds like a bad experience. I am not sure if you really meet the staff tem because as far as I know the staff is not really like this. We are only players and we play. For cheaters etc you can report them in game. For rasist things you can dm a Guardian. Maybe you want to check out #ingame-reports-archieved for more information?
For the bugs: The game is still in the beta and this means there are bugs. The devs are always trying to fix them, but we get bug reports like: "I can't" <- without a way to reproduce it, it is impossible to find and fix the bug. If you have suggestions, we are always here ^^
The suggestion about level based modes and/or to make sandbox only available for a specific level has been suggested before, but it is mostly not the level which makes you a pro or anything.
I have seen many players with level 400 whixh do not have any idea of the rules. Also players with level 500 which still talk a different language in sandbox. players with level 100 which are "noob" and still do not know that random is not allowed. We got a new tutorial, better writen rules etc, but it is not the devs fault, if players are not able to pay attention to the rules.
It is not the guardians fault if they create alts, because a specific type of ban, which would work against this is against the ios terms of service.
Guardians can not work withut reports etc.
Also about the fact, that a non staff member answered you: This is a discussion channel so the are allowed to and it is not necessary to be mad at them in any way. They just try to help us

sudden dock
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Just currious, what would the sect leader do? There is no possible way for sect to win (excluding ww suicide)

glacial warren
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@sudden dock The main goal in a couple is to win with the couple, not with sect.

sudden dock
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So couple team> roles team?

next escarp
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if this is pretending to care idk what caring is

runic dragon
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Hi

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Pls add persian lung😭

next escarp
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thank you for everything @glacial warren ❤️

silk shale
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@glacial warren no you can just post itcute_heart

glacial warren
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@sudden dock Couple > village/ww/Sect

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@next escarp love_doggo Thank you for being part of this community and heping

forest rover
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About the last #feedback-devs comment,could det be added on random informer?👀

ivory harbor
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That's not really helping. But I can assure you a level 100 player knows more about how to play the game than a level 4 player. I practically report at least one person per game because of cheating and spamming etc. It's not helping. They can make a new account without being bothered. It is your responsibility to make sure the game works and that the environment for players is friendly. Shouldn't you get other ways to fix bugs and such other than relying on players to report them? There are constantly new bugs, do you expect me to stop playing and reporting after each bug? This isn't our responsibility as players. You should be able to track down the bugs on your own

next escarp
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sandbox is to find out bugs. Sandbox in game terms literally means a game/mode to play to find bugs, so technically, it is our responsibility

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And for staff finding bugs, there a side server called werewolf tester club that tests and searches for odd features and maybe even bugs. These tests are managed by staff.

runic dragon
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Dont Judge my edit skillss

sudden dock
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I like this idea👀

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A way to flex even after death

runic dragon
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FeedbackApproved 😏

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No no jk. Id like it too. I mean
You worked your way to it

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I even think there should be 2 options.. @glacial warren
On the right a badge with 500 likes / 500 vieuws.
And on the left a staffbadge

hidden lake
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Hi, who is here admin?

next escarp
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also this whole level cap sandbox thing makes no sense. that just means that people who join sandbox will be a higher level but still not understand sandbox roles

runic dragon
hidden lake
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Ok thank you @runic dragon

ivory harbor
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@next escarp With all due respect, I'm not asking for your opinion

sudden dock
glacial warren
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@ivory harbor Well I myself am level 415 and play mostly with others. In game I report at least 3 people per game and I didn't want to go with my level. Just wanted to show you, that it does not depend on the level, if you are a "pro" or not, but on the thing how to play.
As already said, it is not our responsibility, but if you play sandbox it is yours ^^' Sure it is our responsibility to answer bugs, but it is not ours to fix it. I can assure you, that we have a big database with all bugs from #bugs-devs and also a database for #feedback-devs .
Sandbox description says, that it is a mode for roles which are still in work. The mode is to find bugs and to introduce roles. As example we could use the kitten ww. The day it was added it could turn as much players as the player wanted. Thats why there is sandbox. Users reported it to us and now it is fixed.
It is just impossible to fix bugs which happen once and never again. If users would be able to reproduce them it would be much easier for the devs to fix them.
We always try to reproduce things users report, but we are also just humans and have to ork with information we get.
It is an online game and like in every online game there are trollers etc. Guardians are working hard on it and I don'
t want to say, that you or others are responsible, but as said: they can't work without reports

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And again. The user just wanna help

languid cape
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If you really wanna play seriously, play ranked instead of sandbox

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Sandbox is to find bugs and test out new roles

glacial warren
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Badges should be able to stick on gravestones
I have 3 ideas:

  1. You can add 1 badge.
  2. you can add up to 4 badges.
  3. Or that it adds the badge you currently use on the same spot

Its to show that you earned those badges!
( and for staff (: )

I think 4 is too much. So I'd go with 1.
But here ya go.

by: @runic dragon

^Is this okay? I would like to add option 3 👀

runic dragon
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Yes, but please say:
By: @runic dragon with support from @glacial warren orsomething (:

glacial warren
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If you want this, it is not important for me and if you want your name only that's totally fine ^^

runic dragon
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I did with Majestical too.

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People who help get their credits (:

glacial warren
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okay ^^

serene ice
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Y’all trynna let me pick my own skin

median elbow
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@glacial warren I suggested that before.... more "random" roles and made a list.

serene ice
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Huh

ivory harbor
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So what you're saying is, it's not your responsibility to fix bugs and make sure the game works properly? If not, what do you actually do? Also, ranked costs, plus there's noobs in ranked too and I'm not wasting gold on one game to be ruined by noobs. And, as I said, I'm fairly certain that I, level 182, know more how the game works compared to someone who started playing a week ago.

serene ice
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Period sis

median elbow
glacial warren
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@median elbow think I know random ww and random voting roles has been suggested. The repost doesn't hur tho, but I searched it up and could't find it

oh well xD

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@serene ice May I help you ?lurk

serene ice
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yes

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My suggest is to let us pick our own skin and let random be a choice 👛

median elbow
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@glacial warren no I mean random roles. Like random protector, random informative, random ww, random teamed (cupid sect zombie cursed), random weak, etc.

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Not the random voter

glacial warren
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@ivory harbor That was not what I said. I said, that it is not our fault, if users in an online game act against the rules.
It is right. We are not responsible for bug fixes. We post them and devs fix them if they are able to. To fix them they need a way to reproduce them. We also try to do it, but we can only work with information we get from users. Sandbox is a mode to figure out bugs and I can still asure you, that my friend, who played his first game did it better than a level 200 player I reported in the same game. No level has nothing to do with knowledge.

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@serene ice This already has been suggested and was declined ^^

serene ice
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Can we take a vote hun

median elbow
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Witch should also be a protector btw

glacial warren
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@median elbow If it was not posted, then now it is think

serene ice
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All in favor

craggy dagger
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Witch is more a useful role for it’s kill potion than it’s healing potion

floral heath
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@median elbow I don't like the concept of random protector, random informative (aka village randoms) because from my experience playing TOS, if you add these into competitive modes like Ranked, you effectively squeeze the claimspace. Sure it may fix the issue of 3 mayors spawning but I don't think its necessary to add specific Village randoms as that would just encourage players to just tick off boxes of what random is taken and whats not where its harder to tick off 3 completely random village roles as they could be protector, informer or provable.

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in custom i guess it could work but this idea has probably been suggested alot of times

craggy dagger
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@floral heath I’ve seen the suggestion for random voting role getting added to custom games, and I think if hh/fool is swapped for a random voting role, it solves the problem of hh outing day 1.

median elbow
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@floral heath this is for custom games

floral heath
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@craggy dagger thats why i specified village randoms

median elbow
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I also had a suggestion to have a "reveal hidden roles" setting in custom games

lapis drum
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I’m just gonna throw this one out there to see what everyone else thinks:

I think mm should be able to kill villagers. Mm dying to a villager is extra (hard) info and is sort of a buff to vill even if mm dies.

ivory harbor
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Is this supposed to help? Trying to convince me that level has absolutely nothing to do with skill? I thought the staff was supposed to look over the problems instead of trying to convince me they're non-existent. My bad.

lapis drum
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I dont rly see the point of mm dying to villagers like priest. If gunner can accidentally shoot a villager, why not mm?

craggy dagger
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The best indicator of skill is winrate over a sizable volume change my mind

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You can be level 500 and still suck at the game.

median elbow
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@ivory harbor that's correct level doesn't mean you are skillful.

next escarp
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xp grinding customs ^

craggy dagger
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Level and skill are correlated in that I’d expect people with higher levels to play their roles better than those who just started.

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Correlation =/= causation

serene ice
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@ivory harbor Period sis Go awf 😍

next escarp
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uh

lapis drum
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So what do you guys think of my mm suggestion? Willing to brainstorm as usual.

serene ice
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Giving another reason for people to suicide 🎀

lapis drum
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I always speak from a ranked perspective, so suicide isn’t really in my scope right now.

serene ice
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Well

next escarp
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@serene ice im very confused as to what you’re saying

glacial warren
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....

serene ice
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There’s a lot of new players

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It’s like the Pacifist reveal the doctor and then suicide

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Because everyone is attacking them

glacial warren
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@serene ice reportable

serene ice
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Anyways

lapis drum
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Honestly, if you can’t take critiques and it makes you quit, that’s not my concern

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Plus suicide is auto report so

serene ice
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Back to my suggestion on skins since you’re here now

lapis drum
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I’m strictly talking about the ability to kill villagers as mm

glacial warren
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Well I am everywhere here rn

serene ice
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I want to choose my own skin simply because I know what I want

ivory harbor
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This game isn't worth it. I'm complaining about problems that makes the game worse. All I'm saying is that the developers and staff should work on fixing them

craggy dagger
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If you think its not worth your time and effort then why are you still here?

serene ice
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And if this was suggest before and is being brought up again I think it’s about time y’all listen 👏🏽

next escarp
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its been an hour.

lapis drum
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@serene ice explain your suggestion please.

serene ice
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Okay

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I’ll explain it more

glacial warren
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@serene ice well. I already told you, that it has been suggested and won't be added

lapis drum
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Oh nvm then.

serene ice
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Well if it keeps coming up I would listen

lapis drum
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If it’s been denied, it’s not happening. Lol.

serene ice
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If we’re a community then you should listen to the community

craggy dagger
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This isn’t Candyland where we pretend everything is good here, we know there’s problems with the game. I’ve said it once, saying “fix your game” is a useless feedback.

serene ice
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Then I’m gonna keep fighting for it 👛

ivory harbor
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Also, this feedback thing is very unprofessional. If I wanted irrelevant people to comment on my complaints I would tell my friends about it. Maybe you should direct us players somewhere we can actually give feedback and not being judged about it?

serene ice
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PERIOD

glacial warren
frosty wing
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I don't think you're being judged...

lapis drum
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The entitlement is strong today. I’ll be back later with my suggestion lol.

next escarp
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ikr

bronze pasture
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@serene ice we had that in mentor chat. People understand you without periods :)

sacred sable
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Yikes
Maffin on the case.

serene ice
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Oh

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🌚

bronze pasture
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Lets gonna head back to DMs, aight?

serene ice
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Okay

craggy dagger
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You say “this game isn’t worth it” so why are you still here? @ivory harbor ?

ivory harbor
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It's just really sad serious players can't enjoy this game because of bugs

serene ice
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🤭

next escarp
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its a beta, idk what else you want, of course theres gonna be bugs

lapis drum
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Are you trying to report a bug or give feedback?

ivory harbor
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And other gamethrowing people

glacial warren
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@ivory harbor Well. as I also said, this is a discussion channel. You may understand, that it is annoying to say always the same, but that you do not want people to comment is ok. You can just say it much nicer. If you want to talk without comments of a person, you can also dm me

craggy dagger
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That’s a pretty bad assertion, I’m a serious player and I enjoy the game despite bugs and throwers

runic dragon
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Bugs are a way of games. If there is any game out there that doesn't have a bug then God made it

next escarp
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im just going to lurk until its not tense

ivory harbor
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I'm sad to say I don't anymore @craggy dagger

lapis drum
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Even God’s creations have bugs 😂

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Same @next escarp lol

runic dragon
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true lol

craggy dagger
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(Also sandbox isn’t the serious gamemode you can’t change my mind)

lapis drum
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Sandbox is the least serious game mode

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Because it’s just that...a sandbox

sacred sable
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I can't even comment on what's going on rn lol

lapis drum
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It’s a lot Kit lol

frosty wing
craggy dagger
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Why do people consider sandbox a competitive gamemode anyway?

runic dragon
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I would leave some feedback but people are using feedback as a #wov-chat chat right now

next escarp
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yea

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LURK

craggy dagger
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Sure I’ll move

sacred sable
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First- sandbox is more serious than quickplay lol

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Second- sandbox is more serious because bug testing

ivory harbor
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@glacial warren I'd say this is more a place to discuss issues. I'm here to give feedback, not fight with irrelevant people. Please direct users somewhere more serious. Cus this is a joke

glacial warren
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Can you stop calling them irrelevant. Thats disrespectful and rude.

runic dragon
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Yea i agree. There are channels for a reason

serene ice
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So is my suggestion declined 🎀

craggy dagger
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@ivory harbor Can you please give a better suggestion or criticism besides “fix bugs” and “gamethrowers make the game bad” ?

sacred sable
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Toxic Christmas this year

ivory harbor
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Relying on a discord server for a game isn't exactly professional

glacial warren
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@serene ice As I told you now the third time. yes it was declined a while ago already

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@ivory harbor move to dms.

serene ice
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Okay then I’ll simply get a refund

glacial warren
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...

serene ice
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Fine by me 🎀 My refund is pending already

craggy dagger
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What is the most professional way to have a game where you can reach out to your whole playerbase besides discord?

ivory harbor
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And they are irrelevant to me. I want to talk to someone who'll take my complaints seriously. Not a bunch of people who tell me to stop complaining 🤷‍♀️

lapis drum
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@lament knoll please help

glacial warren
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@serene ice Well. In my opinion, you should read what I said since 20 mins now.............

lapis drum
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Poor Hyde is trying his best

serene ice
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Can you repeat it

glacial warren
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@ivory harbor Stop it now.

bronze pasture
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@serene ice no she cant. Read meh dms

serene ice
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But I wanna know what she said

mighty birch
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@craggy dagger a lot of games do that nowadays 🙂 using discord as communication platform

runic dragon
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Hyde don’t be afraid to mute Devil

bronze pasture
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Thats what Im explaining to you since exactly 1 hour @serene ice

glacial warren
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There are also games which do not care about their communitys opinion ^^

mighty birch
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True Hyde!

serene ice
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Maffin dm me and explain I’m slow 😍

bronze pasture
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@serene ice yeah DMs is fine.

serene ice
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Kk

runic dragon
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@glacial warren I know I’m not part of the staff yet but don’t be afraid to mute kit for something like this.

craggy dagger
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Being able to have devs care about a community’s opinion of a game is a privilege not a right these days

glacial warren
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@runic dragon I decide when I mute and that's nothing where I need someone to tell me ^^' At the moment everything is fine

mighty birch
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Our devs and staff truly care about the game AND community! They do listen

runic dragon
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Ok, I just got on for 5 minutes and chaos was happening

dusty wraith
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can i express my opinion about zodiac skins? i have just one thing to say... since its something related to individual birthday i think that i should be nice if (once we purchase one of them) we could choose the skin we obtain! dont you think so?

runic dragon
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Now that people aren't abusing the channels I can finally send feedback on here

lapis drum
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I actually agree with that Sunny. Idk if it’s been suggested, but I’m sure ppl want their own zodiac.

serene ice
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That’s what I was saying !

frosty wing
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Not again...

lapis drum
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Were you talking about zodiac skins or skins in general?...

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@serene ice

serene ice
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Zodiac, I don’t think I made that clear. My mistake.

glacial warren
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@serene ice you said random avatars. The zodiac are different.

@dusty wraith It already has been suggested, but it basically is just a category. normally you can only get them in the whole random outfits and it is already to make it easier to get one ^^

serene ice
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And I just said I didn’t make the clear and it was my mistake.

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That*

dusty wraith
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@glacial warren okay but my zodiac sign its cancer or whatever sign and id like to wear the skin that represents my real sign :) i was just saying

sacred sable
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Duden suggested the other day to emphasize that the Zodiacs/dog purchases are RANDOM, so maybe give that a look-see?

glacial warren
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@serene ice Yes and again: It has been suggested before. I thought Maffin talks to you already?

bronze pasture
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I am and did for one hour already.

serene ice
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I did but now other people are suggesting the same thing.

craggy dagger
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@lapis drum I’d amend your suggestion to this:
When MM shoots a villager, the villager dies, the MM lives, but he can’t use any more shots

dusty wraith
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im sorry, i dont want to do something bad here saying that (~_~;)

craggy dagger
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effectively making him become a forkman

glacial warren
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@dusty wraith Yes I really understand it, but well the thing is, that the devs already made it easier to get them tho.
And no we are always open for suggestions and feedback, but it was kinda intense here :/

lament knoll
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welp

runic dragon
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I don't know how this would work, but anyway here is my idea: I used to play Clash of Clans and loved the idea of clan wars. I feel like the things clans can do are pretty empty, as all they really do right now is chat and quests. Once again, I don't know how it would work exactly, but it would be cool to see something like Clan Wars or Clan vs Clan in WWO. Maybe we could do something like where the two different clans try to win as certain roles in quick game, sandbox, and ranked (not custom) and depending on the win scenario clans get points and whoever has the most points at the end gets clan gold or an avatar item(s) or something

lapis drum
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@craggy dagger I actually don’t find that to be a terrible idea. 👏🏾

dusty wraith
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@glacial warren so there is no way to choose the skin we purchase?

lapis drum
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That’ll help keep village killing to a minimum at least.

glacial warren
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@dusty wraith random is random

craggy dagger
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I think if MM dies to guilt for instance it is too much of a drawback to the role shooting a villager

dusty wraith
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@glacial warren okay nevermind

lapis drum
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Right and like I said, mm death is free info overnight.

runic dragon
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Also about my clan war idea above i dont mean for it to replace clan quests or anything

sacred sable
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Dying of guilt is a Vigilante thing from Town of Salem

craggy dagger
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dying of guilt is a mafia term to reduce the power of village or town killing roles

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Info at the cost of a villager

sacred sable
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"Making mm die of guilt for shooting a villager"

craggy dagger
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Well he does that already kind of, psyoniqa’s suggestion more or less inverts it

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a non MM villager dies and the MM is confirmed

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But because he’s a forkman now he’s just a vote

sacred sable
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Mm dies without killing villager, which is info in itself
Mm can try to shoot another mm and die

lapis drum
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Which is more info

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Only difference is when mm shoots a villager it’s hard info

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Theres no denying that whoever was shot is a villager.

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Which is too forgiving at the moment in my opinion

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“Yea u died, but at least we know a villager for sure”

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Killing that shot villager and losing your other arrow (if you have another) is more consequential

craggy dagger
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Meanwhile pacifist: I can confirm a villager at pretty much no downside!!

lapis drum
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Lol. That’s punishment in itself 😂

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Paci: reveals med

craggy dagger
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(So long as I reveal day 1 where we weren’t gonna vote anyway because fool game)

lapis drum
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True

craggy dagger
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Actually it’s not all bad to reveal med unless there’s a nightmare, which means only 1/7 games where this occurs is pretty bad for villa

lapis drum
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So it looks like right now the suggestion is:

Mm can kill villagers, but if they do they become a forkman.

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I have another but I’ll be back later after I think it through more.

next escarp
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they retire their bow

runic dragon
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Isn't that just a forkman then..?

next escarp
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?