Tell me if it doesn't belong here
#feedback-readonly
chrome thunder
thick bolt
@quaint bramble No rewards would be awarded. It would be just to get people play better and reward them
bleak imp
I wanted to feedback, that the word "ass" is blacklisted, but you also can't use "dass" which means "that" in German, because it contains "ass". Is there any way to fix that
median elbow
I'm pretty sure you can send the word ass already
vale gyro
Are there server issues? My internet works flawlessly :/
runic dragon
Yes, that's for everyone. It seems servers are down
vale gyro
Ah, good to know. Almost thought i got banned or something.
runic dragon
server is down now
When you get ban appears an "⚠️" icon above of "
" in the main menu, so don't worry 
lament knoll
@bleak imp -> no
If a word is blacklisted it'll get censored in any context so "dass" would be "d***" if it'd be blacklisted ^^
The censoring system detects such stuff as loophole :p
vale gyro
Generally the whole censorship seems stupid. Why not make it optional like in most games where the user can turn off the censoring? Have it turned on by default for the child friendliness and players can individually turn it off in their settings.
spare hare
For real, its obnoxious. You can't even talk normally and say "oh man that sucks"
bleak imp
@lament knoll but I want to use the word "dass" in my description and that is getting blocked
spare hare
The censoring should be filtered by the player's preferred language. The spelling of a word in another language shouldn't make basic communication difficult.
lament knoll
Censoring System
Censoring should be filtered by the player's preferred language
-> not really a good idea, i'm german, if i play a sandbox game, with my preferred language/the language the game is set for me i'd basically be able to swear as much as i want to without it being censored? Or i would see things non censored which are insults in english but aren't in german? -> not an option
should be changed depending on which language server you play in
Already been suggested before quite alot, i don't know the first thing about coding so idk if you can change the censoring system in each language server seperately/if it would be actually worth that much work.
turn of censoring in your settings if you want to
Suggested before, and declined, it's a kids friendly game there is no need to swear in the first place.
Also if everyone can turn it off we'll have some more parents coming to us complaining about which language their kid gets to read by simply un-ticking a box, and we would get the old system back.
You should not get a free swearing pass, the system is not only for the child friendliness but also for keeping the athmosphere enjoyable.
Also if we disable the censoring for the people which want to they'd also be able to write anything in their description i guess?
And players which got their censoring turned on wont see players execessively swearing and insulting and hence not be able to report them?
-> not really a good option.
You can express your frustration and anger without starting to swear, it's not really something big to ask for.
@bleak imp weird....maybe some words got added to the blacklist then ig?
vivid blaze
Absolute bs and stupidity yet again. I really insist on removing gunners since the game hardly deals with such random shooters/gamethrowers and fake accs
lament knoll
Removing gunner as general role or from sb/quick?
He get's already replaced by mm sometimes so would you prefer him getting replaced by marksman in every game mode and only being able to appear as strong random villager and in custom?
vivid blaze
Quick game he's never replaced
lament knoll
oh, nice to know
So you're up for replacing him by mm in quick game as well?
bitter bloom
Am I the only who thinks skipping system is broken?
quaint bramble
@bitter bloom it is still being developed, it does have some bugs sometimes
If you find any, please take a screenshot and report it in #bugs-readonly :)
light edge
How about to rate your wolf teammates when u win for skill distribution.
Wolfs not claiming should not get as much as someone carrying all game
bitter bloom
@quaint bramble I really can't screenshot it but it never skip discussion (for me) it says 1 person stoll needs to skip but all have skip
quaint bramble
well you could take a screenshot if all the players said 'i skipped it' for example 👀
it's not possible to confirm this ofcourse, some people just want to annoy in any way possible, esp that last ww might just not want to die yet
bitter bloom
Ok.Thing was i played with all my friends and they saw that they skipped so i still think its buggy but I'll try to screenshot next time :)
quaint bramble
@light edge That sounds like a pretty tricky system, how should this be implied? You vote for the best ww, the worst? How much difference should there be? Only on winning? How about basing it on who lives the longest (Unfair for jww though)
light edge
I carry many noobs from seer hell to det games as wolf. they not claiming anything me doing all the damage/ carry wolfs.
Surviving longest is a stupid scale.
On loosing too that would be great
If they dont claim as jr - skill deduction/ loose more
no claim once doc died - skill deduction
voting random/confirmed good in fool game - skill deduction
runic dragon
You can’t do that though. It’s not in the rules that jr has to claim something or that wws should claim doc when doc died. Like. Those are strategies. And I guess even though they’re good strategies they don’t have to apply to everyone. 🤷🏽♀️ @light edge
light edge
not claiming when doc dies makes you admit being bad. ok I take myself out
runic dragon
I agree with it, and I think it’s best too, but you can’t take skill points away for that. If a person doesn’t play the way you do, you can’t penalize them for it.
quaint bramble
At the moment there is no way to detect if someone spoke at all during the game nd include that in sp/xp calucations 🤔
prisma vector
While this isn't exactly noob friendly, I think there should be some kind of document explaining how roles behave during certain scenarios. I think the game has some inconsistent scenarios that are almost impossible to test accurately without "throwing" a game.
Say, if Jailer jails gunner but arso burns him, WWs can now attack gunner and kill him on that night, but if jailer is nightmared, jailed target is still protected even though jailer has no real interaction during the night. For some reasons these interactions don't seem natural to me (if anything it feels like they should be reversed).
There's other interactions such as jailer or beast hunter trap being able to stop a douse, but protector roles not being able to.
For clarification I am not asking for the interactions to be changed, moreso for the game to somehow teach you about these interactions and their end result somehow at some point. Something like: "If Jailer dies at night, jail target will become immediately vulnerable" or "Nightmaring Jailer will not stop him from protecting someone".
woeful mesa
Could it be possible to add the "emoji(emote) code" which is in the cheating part in the emoji's rules part? And maybe explain it a bit, like it means giving infos by using emojis?
Like if someone hears about emoji(emote)'s code being illegal, goes to "rules" and when he check "emoji" can t find anything about it, it can only confuse him
quaint bramble
@woeful mesa Rules are currently undergoing reworks/updates, and I am quite sure this topic is already being adressed :)
woeful mesa
Okay thanks for your answer^^
quaint bramble
@prisma vector Hm it would take a while to put together such a list, and it would be really really long and have some extremely specific stuff in it.
I do think its an interesting idea, and perhaps some volunteers from staff/tester club want to start working on this.
If you are looking for answers about these interactions, dont test them yourself in regular games please. Use costum games or join the tester club, they test a lot of these things and probably already have an answr for you!
runic dragon
prisma vector
Well, amusingly I just had 2 games where both Jailer interactions I talked about happened
in the past 2 hours (after I had already made my post about them because one of them happened in a game. So 3 times total today).
and people were confused
It is true that it might take a while to compile a list of all interactions, I am moreso worried about interactions that seem to work contrary to what a first time user would believe it would work as
Idk if it's just me but I think being able to be attacked by wws if jailer is killed during the night seems pretty unnatural/inconsistent to what my connection of how the fantasy/theme of being jailed works
I would expect that what is defending me is the jail itself and not the jailer
so my theory is that basically everyone who hasn't seen the interaction would believe it doesn't work in the way it does. Scenarios such as that should be explained somewhere otherwise it feels like the game is buggy or inconsistent, at least imo.
median elbow
@woeful mesa emoji code is under game throwing I believe
woeful mesa
And for what it the emojis' part then? Lol
median elbow
The cheating description is also under game throwing
woeful mesa
You didn t get my feedback👀
median elbow
The emoji code is under the game throwing tab
woeful mesa
Going private👀
median elbow
Rose King (or queen or champion)
The player that sends then most roses at the end of the game gets crowned the Rose Champion and gets a small 15 xp bonus.
quaint bramble
would encourage rose spam, which can be a little disruptive, and 15 xp isnt small, if you are on the losing team its a double xp bonus
median elbow
Not gonna lie I never heard of rose spam
And 5-10 might be better. I was thinking of a way to encourage sharing more roses with everyone
quaint bramble
rose spam isnt really an official thing, but if 10 players send roses for all in the sme day, youre gonna have a hard time actually discussing info
median elbow
That's the only scenario. If a player sends all people roses in a single game
pulsar rain
Witch should be in the random strong villager category and not random regular villager
cobalt quartz
Little Feedback: I know this has been suggested before but we really need a separated matchmaking based on levels so people can find players with similiar skills
If you are playing with friends and they have a great difference between levels (one friend has 120 and another 80),the matchmaking should works normaly
lament knoll
@woeful mesa i do believe the emojis' part is meant for actual keyboard emojis :p
Some people use inapp emojis such as mf etc or use them so excessively it's practically spamming but only in one message
woeful mesa
Hmm makes sense! but since there is also an emoji system in game, I think it shoulf be clarified a bit then^^ but anyway apparently all the rules are being reviewed haha
lament knoll
Indeed :p finally👀
vale gyro
About the censorship...
Currently it clearly doesn't work. At all. You can't write cumulative, assumption or literally any word containing the "bad words" in a string. That's just lazy programming. How about ONLY censoring the words when standalone? Right now it's next to impossible to write in some languages and it's downright annoying.
lament knoll
Heyy @cobalt quartz
I'd assume you mean apart from ranked, in quick and sandbox, we indeed get these kind of suggestions quite often... :p
~~ranked more so if you're talking about ranked i do not think i can serve you any further as we got quite a bit of suggestions about this type posted lately 👀
Any specific ideas on which way matchmaking should be improved? A level radius? Seperating them into groups like 1-30, 50-100, 100-150, 150-200 etc?
Any other ideas apart from these? :3
I'd be curious to know and check if it deserves a repost right now ^^
@vale gyro only censoring standalone words would be extremely easy to bypass if wanting to swear
you could simply clip two swear words together without space
likethis and you'd be good to go.
cobalt quartz
Obv I was talking about sandbox and quick,maybe I can do a better structurated feedback
lament knoll
or adding a random word/letter onto a swear word to bypass it
That'd be nice hey :3
vale gyro
That argumentation is bs. I want to write fuck yourself? Haha, easy. Fu/ck yourself. There, bypassed.
Just as example that this method works.
So your argument with adding letters doesn't really make sense because it's still the case.
lament knoll
@pulsar rain any reason in particular for that?
I'd assume because she can kill and has an unk aura, right? :p
Typical Srv pattern yea except for the checking roles ofc
Tho marksman is even stronger than witch and rrv👀
particulary i dont think witch is a that strong role
vale gyro
Alternatively if it's too much to ask add exception parameters for every single legit word in every language containing the letter combination. A lot more work but fulfills the purpose. So ass standalone or in other strings? Nope. But in things like assassination, assuming, bypass, glass, etc it doesn't get censored.
lament knoll
lil heads up, saying my argument is bs could be phrased a tad less passive/active aggressive so your point seems less like just trying to attack and more like an actual argument? i'm staying polite while discussing as well but whatever i guess.
It has been already suggested quite alot before and lastly reposted in mid september, however i guess i'll give it a repost as little heads up for the devs.
Thanks alot for your suggestion and have a nice day 
vale gyro
Ah yes, sorry, that wasn't my intention...
It's just really really annoying sometimes in the game itself. Can't recall it rn but there's even a role that you can't type out because it gets censored.
cobalt quartz
I have noticed that sometimes the matchmaking matches together players with a very different level (Ex. Im level 140 and I usually find level 40-20).
While in ranked the skill points provide a good matchmaking,in the other gamemodes is frustrating to see how more skilled players can outstand an entire village.
It's unfair for everybody:
-low level get easily tricked and can't learn much;
-high levels can find problem in communicating with the village or in stoping random voting.
How to resolve this?
Create a matchmaking based on similiar level group:
-level 1-25 must have to learn the game so they create a really tiny group;
-level 26-45 already know how to play and they have to improve and playing with level a bit more experienced is good
-level 46-75 are really good player and they have just to improve ways to play and tricking others;
-level 76-9999 are already pro and can have a fair match together
Right now this is the best division I can think,cause there is a really great amount of low levels players that must improve their skills.
Anyway if you are playing with friend,the matchmaking should find ONLY players that are doing the same,to make everything fair.
Unfortunately the "Level groups" can't work if you are playing with friends cause there can easily be players with level 20 and 140 in the same match.
forest rover
I disagree with this.Level doesn’t mean you’re good or bad,because once you reach level 20 you almost know everything.I personally think that it should be done with win and lose percentages (at least in custom) 👀
next escarp
in the latest feedback devs, ||ass|| should be censored
lament knoll
dw dio it's all good :p
woeful mesa
Hi, for the last feedback, wasn't it not possible because the censoring system was made as a basis the succession of letters, and that it wasn't possible to put a system for the bad words only?
paper sandal
Hey this user was banned, came back and is still spamming racist chats
cobalt quartz
Mmh...Level are got by experience,so there can be case where a player learn fast,but I think it's rare;the win/lose percentages isn't precise cause the difference between the experienced players in match makes lots of match losed/winned
lament knoll
It has been approved into feedback-devs some time ago so i assume it's not impossible it's just a lot of work :p
paper sandal
Suggested: when u block people they should NOT be matched into your games. Kinda defeats the whole "block"
cobalt quartz
If we have to create a matchmaking based on win/lose we have first to create a good place where this ratio has to be precise
woeful mesa
I see^^ It will be the devs choice at the end anyway^^ but if it is done, maybe we will be able to write competition without being censored finally lol
next escarp
||t i t||
woeful mesa
@paper sandal there is already such a system, they will appear in your game only if there aren't enough players to fill up lobbies
nope, the word sensored is titi, not even tit lol
forest rover
In my opinion the win rate is more accurate,but in a level like 20.It does not depends on others players,unless you die in night one always,something I hope that doesn’t happen to you 👀
lament knoll
Apparently blocking does not affect your chances to end up in the game with a person was the info we got, you only can't read their messages👀
woeful mesa
Oh okay, then forget my answer sorry
lament knoll
feedback partey omg lemme go through all of em
paper sandal
Yeah when i block people i see them in later games its just ***** and everyone thinks were gamethrowing 😰
cobalt quartz
In a normal level 20,you haven't much match played to create a very accurate ratio
So maybe we can use the ratio sistem for players with lots of match played
But with the others a level group matchmaking is required
And it will be unfair to have different matchmaking
paper sandal
Words like "repetitive" get censored out like repe***ive
lament knoll
Heyaaa @paper sandal
About the blocking system, i get that it's very frustrating and pretty useless at the moment👀
It has indeed beem suggested to change it so it actually serves a purpose
It has just been reposted on the end of september so i guess....well it's been 2 months and it's indeed a pretty urgent issue honestly...
I think i could give it a repost, thanks for your suggestion! 
@cobalt quartz so you got anything to add? :3
cobalt quartz
I think I already add everything :3
lament knoll
Alrighty, thanks alot for your suggestion and your interest in improving the playing experience and have a nice day!
cobalt quartz
^^
quaint bramble
@paper sandal Heya, I have already asked you before, not to post such screenshots here and I explained to send these reports to the guardians. We do not allow naming and shaming of banned players etc. This is not a report or complain channel.
prisma vector
I am pretty sure there isn't a Matchmaking aside from Seer/Det game division
in ranked
even on 4k+ I still see freshly new 1700+ players in my games
cobalt quartz
But at least Ranked as some tipes of Matchmaking
Sand and Quick have just random
Some weeks ago some guys have done a feedback about the Ranked Matchmaking
runic dragon
i have a suggestion. whenever aura seer gets "Unknown" as a result, and it lists all the roles that the player could be, it doesn't list possible rrv roles. that can lead to some misunderstandings. i think it'd be nice to also list ALL unknown rules IF the game has any kind of "random" that allows unknown characters.
cobalt quartz
Agree
woeful mesa
I think it should be just written, jailer, med... or a rrv role. It would be confusing, and a very long list that might lose the player, a lot if every roles are listed. WIth the "or a rrv role" the player can with the hint of the rrv role check the rrv description and learn which roles can be unknown.
In reaction with the feedback just above mine
paper sandal
@quaint bramble oh whoop didnt see first time. Noted
fierce shale
The word ass isnt censored tho?
Grapes is
Accumulate , competition, POTTY is, imean really potty? Smh
||but isnt kinda actually a complain channel...||
quaint bramble
@runic dragon @woeful mesa heya I already saw your comment about this issue in bugs earlier. I am glad you did post a feedback about it. I think listing random reg villager in the aura is indeed a nice solution, so I will post it like that and credit both of you 
iron girder
Let guild leaders, co-leader capable of inviting people to their guild in a game by clicking a players profile and have an "invite" button
vivid thorn
Spectators should not be able to talk to medium it's borderline cheating
lament knoll
Heyaaa @vivid thorn
Thanks for your interest in improving current game mechanics for the game, and making it enjoyable and fair for everyone :3
But i indeed, just recently posted a suggestion regarding this issue which seems like the easiest and most convenient so far -> https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/649860203558338580
you might care to upvote it, so the devs see this is actually a topic alot of people are concerned of
Heyyy @iron girder
I am pretty sure this is a thing already?
When having searched for a similar suggestion in feedback-devs i found this screenshot and in it, it says "invite to clan" as an already existing feature...
iron girder
Wait its a feature?
I didn't see it ingame
I meant in a random game
that occurs for friends(the picture)
lament knoll
So also with ppl you don't know?
Hm... alrighty :p
iron girder
yep ty:p
vale gyro
@fierce shale yeah, i know ass isn't censored. But there are a lot of other three letter words like tit or cum which get censored. It's especially annoying with almost every word ending in tition. Honestly couldn't think of too many examples so that's why i used ass... essence of the argument is still the same.
floral heath
If everyone that is ONLINE agrees to skip the discussion then the game should skip the discussion. This particular example, can’t skip discussion because 16 was AFK.
mighty granite
@balmy lark What do you mean? 🤔
@floral heath Would be a nice idea. I'll put it into #feedback-devs later. 👍
iron girder
Make it so gold cost to skip waiting time to decrease over the time left. I think that makes sense.
light edge
You should be able to skip discussion when n-1 players agree to skip.
n being the players alive
light edge
To solve the going offline when med has yet to revive issue.
If you have a important role you can't exit the game. you will get a reminder "med did not revive yet - your team may need you"
I hate gunner going off in fool games
deft cairn
Why does the name change cost 100 gold?? Now people can gang and stalk people in game easily
fierce shale
@vale gyro
You right
quaint bramble
@balmy lark not sure what update you're referring to, it sounds rather like a bug 🤔 so please, instead of being pissed off, report it in #bugs-readonly preferred with screen shot, so we can look at this issue.
iron girder
@vernal dune Also my feedback too:p
shut wharf
I tried killing jailer as ww but they didnt die but also it didnt show me "10 couldnt be killed" rrv doc was ig who protected them and he was also attacked by canni in that night, so it probably didnt show because canni attacked them "first", but there should still be a sentence shown like "your target was attacked by someone else". This could also be shown when sk (etc.) kills a target the ww had.
(If screenshot needed ping me)
graceful skiff
Repost (credits to the owner)
How if we hide names in ranked and only show it after the game? So we avoid getting ganged up or auto protect/kill.
iron girder
Yep, I remember picking 9 and someone. But 9 suicided. So I can only pick 1 of the couple.
Make it so the option pops up again so i can pick both.
mighty granite
@iron girder
Make it so gold cost to skip waiting time to decrease over the time left. I think that makes sense.
Do you mean name change or clan quest skip or something?
Yep, I remember picking 9 and someone. But 9 suicided. So I can only pick 1 of the couple.
Make it so the option pops up again so i can pick both.
Great idea, I'll put this in the #feedback-devs.
@light edge
You should be able to skip discussion when n-1 players agree to skip.
n being the players alive
That would work well, not everyone wants to skip.
To solve the going offline when med has yet to revive issue.
If you have a important role you can't exit the game. you will get a reminder "med did not revive yet - your team may need you"
I hate gunner going off in fool games
I think a little reminder wouldn't really help. But I may be wrong.
I'll add both to #feedback-devs
@shut wharf good idea, but not sure if that works well.
runic dragon
I wish that random Outfits are only for our Gender. If Player has Male, he only get Male skins. Female only Female. Genderless becomes both.
mighty granite
@graceful skiff It was suggested a while ago. Here https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/647424727215898647
@runic dragon Okay, 1 #feedback-devs coming up.
runic dragon
Thanks @mighty granite
mighty granite
Yw
iron girder
Ty 
(Copied from Hyde and someone I think)
runic dragon
Heyhey!
Maybe its nice to see the creator of the releast outfit..
So we can see which outfit is made by who. Just for more credits.
( I just took Nexø as an example )
rigid bronze
😳 I really agree with that, let's give more credits to the designers !
lament knoll
already suggested that to phil in dms a while back :p
he said it's an interesting idea :p waitin for that for a while now
Tho that should be able to get added or not depending on the designer
For some the recognition by it going in game is enough and they'd not like to get recognized in game for it :3
But that'd be a deal between the devs and the designer anyways so :p
verbal pasture
Wait can I add something to @runic dragons feedback? You should add the name of the outfit, because I see it here on discord but never in the game.
lament knoll
Heya @verbal pasture
This has already been suggested before and posted to fb devs not that long ago as i remember it pretty clearly :p
Names indeed are only for #dev-vote furthermore you just call it as you see it
"The Detective"
"The Crazy Bunny"
"The Maid" etc
Many people wont memorize all names of all outfits well cannot talk for me bc i do :p
Also there are quite a few designers which do not submit their outfits to vote first and maybe aren't even in this server, so in these cases it's not that convenient :p
However thanks for your feedback and have a nice day :3 ❤
forest rover
Then just add the name of the ones that want to make a name for it.It’s better that some have a name than none 👀
runic dragon
Upgrade league for rank. Like after gold could be platinum or so on
regal panther
Hello
pine jacinth
people going afk is way too annoying and not punished the good way for me , so many people leave game without any probleme , i would like to propose AFTER TWO GAME LEAVING a 24 hour ban for people leaving one leave after this ban they get 48 h etc...
full falcon
@pine jacinth what if your toilet caught fire twice in a row and you needed to leave
sacred sable
Suggestion: allow Bomber to place a bomb in Jail to bomb the next person jailed.
If Jailor doesn't jail anyone, the Jailor gets bombed instead.
forest rover
I personally do think that interactions with red lady and solo killers should change,to make it in a logical way.
While visiting someone.
This already happens with serial killer,corruptor and cannibal,so:
-Red lady cannot be bitten (you don’t know where she is,how could you find her to bite her?).
-Red lady cannot be sected.(Same explication).
However,red lady can be doused and can “carry” the bomb.
Why do I think it?Well,if you think about the game it is like a true village,where every player does have their house,I personally think that for arsonist is easier to douse the house and not the player,same with bomber.So red lady can be doused/have the bombs.
However,(again) if arsonist decides to burn everyone or if bombs explode,if red lady is not at her house,red lady won’t die.I’m going to explain this with a logical example.
You’re red lady.You’re number 3,which means that your house is the 3rd house.You’re visiting 14,which means that you’re at 14 house.Suddenly your house explodes.You die.🤔🤔🤔
-If the visited player is the one that gets the action.
Red lady does get killed if any of the solo killers kills the visited player,however,solos converting does not have any interactions.Imo,it should be like this:
-If the visited player is visited by a zomb to get bitten or by a sect leader to get sected,red lady does get bitten/sected too.
spare hare
Sandbox mode has become borderline unplayable because of the language barrier. The official language is English and yet half the people in this particular game are Turkish, the other half Malay.
sacred sable
You forgot Portuguese and Arabic or Russian or German
spare hare
Headhunter shouldn't be able to target the Mayor. That's a helluva disadvantage.
limpid loom
hey so i get that if the ww team and village team are tied that ww wins but if it gets down to 1 villiager and 1 ww if the villager can kill the ww like if it gunner and they have a bullet why dose it still give it to ww further more if its ww, and villager and the ww is afk and has been afk for a few rounds but just hasnt dc it should reward that player by giving them the win if they are there i get but idk just a thought
*shouldnt
lament knoll
@limpid loom if the player's been afk for "a few rounds" they would've been found if the village uses common sense.
The wws winning condition is to equal the villagers so if its 1 villager vs 1 ww, even if that one's been offline, they still met their winning requirement...
And its honestly the village's fault if they can't win against a ww which is afk since a few rounds...
Also, scenario:
Solo killing role vs jww and any afk ww vs villager
Jww gets lynched and avenges the solo killing role -> the ww wins because he made the wws equal the villagers
You shouldnt punish a whole ww team just bc of one of their mates being afk, especially not if they get to meet their winning requirements.
^ my point of view on that
paper sandal
Dont know if this has been suggested but what about clan competitions? Like clans get rewards based on monthly....stats? Or clans can declare war (competition to see who can get more xp or something)
limpid loom
@lament knoll thats true lol its just something i noticed lol like sometimes they would find the jww and jailer will keep them jailed so they afk and want to wait for last or just ignore bc they are afk or something like that
@paper sandal ooooo that be cool more clan things would always be awesome lol
peak knot
@paper sandal I am a big fan of new clan interactions
paper sandal
My clans pretty active but when the skins are unfavorable we have nothing to really work for. Dunno how it could work maybe give trophies for xp gaining, clans have a trophy leaderboard something like that. Top 500 trophies get rare skin parts or s/t
peak knot
I would like some sort of new gamemode completely based on clan face-offs
lament knoll
Alright so heyyy @forest rover
Long story short, everything you said has more or less already been suggested and discussed before, we also do try to apply common sense there but sometimes in wwo common sense's left the town :p
It's a nice summary tho, i'll change it up in some parts and then post it into #feedback-devs
Thanks for your time and feedback, have a nice day :3
verbal pasture
Add "The official language is English". because sometimes I see people talk their own language, because they don't know it's supposed to be in english
forest rover
@lament knoll thx you
spare hare
@verbal pasture Doesn't stop the problem we're having in Sandbox. It says explicitly "the language is English" and then you get three or four Russian-only speakers
woeful mesa
Hi, I think that sheriff should be able to watch himself. The goal of the sheriff is to guess who will get killed and watch that player. If seer, doc are dead, it s quite logical to be the next one on the list. And if med is alive, you can give info the next night.
rigid bronze
The thing is, as """rp""" thing, watching yourself and see how you died is meh
forest rover
Did devs changed sheriff so now you get info if you die?As far as I know they didn’t,so @woeful mesa feedback wouldn’t make sense
spare hare
There was a situation where the werewolves killed me (the sheriff) and the cannibal ate my watch target. Even though I was dead, I still saw the suspects.
woeful mesa
@forest rover the only way for sheriff to get info if he dies is by watching himself👀
So basically that s what I m asking lol
forest rover
I don’t like exceptions 👀
spare hare
If the sheriff could watch themselves, then the same argument could be made for the doctor to save themselves. This puts other roles at risk.
woeful mesa
But sheriff is actually underpowered compared to any other checking roles
forest rover
But with doctor is alright,because doctor,in a logical way,saves someone after they got attacked.Like docs do irl
Now,think that a doc get attacked,and they he cure himself.You’re hurt,how would you do it?It’s a bit not logical imo @spare hare 👀
woeful mesa
And it s not making an exception, like seer is able to check and die, aura too, but not sheriff👀 ofc spirit seer is the same, but sheriff has way less chance to get info than spirit, so if sheriff can guess he s going to die I feel like he should be able to do his job meaning guessing who will die👀
normal wyvern
It is really unfair when red lady said "I will visit [number]" specially she won't die by fool/hh. She shouldn't be allowed to say this because she is already really strong.
woeful mesa
@normal wyvern actually I find it being an extremely bad move
lament knoll
^
lament knoll
The wws are the ones getting an advantage of it :3
The games i was in this only benefited the wws so it's just a bad strategy move by the rl which helps the wws rather than the villagers :p
normal wyvern
I mean "I visited 2" is okay but "I will visit 3" is kinda cheating..
normal wyvern
And then they'll kill them
woeful mesa
So either she visits 3, it s a ww, and village instantally get the info, such a luck!
normal wyvern
Unfair for the werewolves
woeful mesa
Either it s a villager, here med, and med+rl get killed
So ww are double killing
Without losing anything
normal wyvern
Yea but if they don't know who she'll visit because she is not allowed to say this, I'd be fairer for both sides
WW can't double kill and village can't know who is ww
woeful mesa
Well why not letting the contrary? Basically the same, and it lets rl freedom to choose how she wants to play
Either risky by announcing who she will visit
Either the security by not telling and sharing info/dying and telling med
Later
normal wyvern
It is like "if 4 is bad I'll do an emote give them a rose" which is definitely not fair for all of them..
woeful mesa
Nah it s not
lament knoll
I know alot of rl which say "i'll visit xy" and then the next day they say "i visited yx" 👀
Can be a very good strat in some situations
woeful mesa
True
normal wyvern
Mostly they don't do this, they'll visit this person..
runic dragon
Anyway there's a "Bug" when you dies as RL you have some seconds to tell med who did u visit it can be bug abuse tho but people use it 🤷🏻♂️.
And I think if it's not allowed to say who will u visit many people will use that bug
lament knoll
Not a bug more of a small delay but yea that ^
woeful mesa
It s just some strategies, what you wish to do is basically cutting any strategy choice👀
normal wyvern
strategies are good but definitely unfair for the opposite.
spare hare
I'm not sure, if the medium is dead, how else will the village know who the RL visited?
woeful mesa
Here is a strategy for rl ^
There are different strategies, and how it is right it can either succeed, fail... it depends of how it goes^^ but it adds to the game more possibilities^^
normal wyvern
And giving the village a huge advantage :)
woeful mesa
Not necesserally...
normal wyvern
But mostly
woeful mesa
Truly not...
Ww will try to kill the one rl visits
For double kill
And in that case it s not helping village at all
Idk how to say it in english, but it s like double or leave
And there is always the choice for rl to not say who she will visit^^
normal wyvern
🤷🏻♀️ okay sure. I'm out to not say something stupid (Not your fault dw)
woeful mesa
Feel free to share your opinion though, it s never bad👀
lament knoll
Alright so, sorry for the very late answer i am a bit fever-y right now but i'll just handle these real quick
Heyaa @spare hare
The Sandbox issue
The universal, we cannot do anything more than reminding people over and over again before they join the game mode...
If you see ppl speaking another language in sandbox -> Report them under "others" and indicate "speaking another language than english in sandbox" in the report message.
Mayor not being able to get Hh Target
I was pretty sure mayor is on the list of roles that cannot get hh target unless there is no other possible target available... i'll recheck with my colleagues.
Tho you need to take into account that if the "blacklist" for getting hh target gets too long there won't be any villager which cannot get hh target, because if there are only blacklisted roles available none of them will have a decreased possibility to get target, you know what i mean?
However thanks alot for your Suggestions and Concerns they are appreciated
Heyyy @paper sandal
Making Clans more convenient
Hotly discussed topic ever since a few months, clans already get rewards tho if being ranked high in the clan leaderboard, monthly stats not tho...
what kind of rewards would you have in mind, only rare skin parts etc, wouldn't that not change the system of clans after all as it would only be about skins all over again? :p
Any other reward ideas?
Wouldn't that mostly reward grinding clans tho?
Clan Wars? Yeah that's also a frequently suggested thing, tho if it's about xp many ppl would just do a ton of the custom games where you can farm xp... or would they compete in sandbox/quick games?
Any specific ideas for the development of that idea?
Heyy @peak knot
New Gamemode based on clan face offs
The Devs are currently not exactly in favor of adding more game modes, tho could you specifify that principle a bit further?
forest rover
Don’t remove the lover icon when your lover commit suicide.
If you wonder why this is important,is because if you’re in the lover team,you should get the lover win,so you are able to commit unfair things,like shooting as gunner or not telling the info as seer.
However,imagine that I shoot (as gunner) a villager (like seer) to protect my lover but then my lover commits suicide so I just seem like a gamethrower,and I could be reported for something that I was able to do.
I’m not sure if guardians are able to see the couple if one of the lovers commited suicide.If they’re not,this should be added,imo.
tall forum
🇹🇷
paper sandal
Okay so maybe clans can choose which role they wanna fight in a war for. Like “Get 50 wins as wolf team first” and anyone in the clan who wins a game as the role (customs dont count) will contribute a win. So whoever is first to 50 wins the clan war. Maybe each clan can only declare war once per month to avoid exploiting clans that are friends with eachother
And so with that idea the clan would have to communicate which war they want to declare on who and find a good clan that matches their stats. The winner gets whatever rare skin for the month. A special clan war skin?
paper sandal
Or! Each clan war has its own skin. So the harder the war, the cooler the skin. Or like win an easy war, get 5 lootboxes, win a hard war, win a rare skin within 10 lootboxes
rigid bronze
@forest rover Hmm good idea, mostly for new players 👍👍
@livid pollen You need 12 reports to be banned, if you are, you deserved it ^-^
@paper sandal Don't you wna do a great summary of every aspect of clan wars you'd like to have ? 👀
livid pollen
I got 12 false report
I got banned for something from long time
the false reports made admins check the old reports 😂
even the admin said that
rigid bronze
Yea there are always troubles 👀 but in general it works well
livid pollen
It wasn't report
When I was new
I was wondering what if I try to say all ww names .-.
The message got removed
glacial warren
@tall forum may we help you?
livid pollen
False reports made them ban me for that message
primal notch
I have a suggestion to send can I send it in here?
spare hare
These are certainly all words.
rigid bronze
That's the problem, there is an automated system for when you try leaking your teammates name/number
@primal notchsure !
primal notch
Great
livid pollen
You can actually bypass that system
Like if 1/2/6 are ww
You can say
1 ww
only that
then reval them 1 by 1
primal notch
So when you go in Ranked mode I will love to know what game am I in. . . per example you are playing with Gold players... or like your rank does not have enouph player you are playing with Bronze/Copper/Silver etc... it can help people since stats arnt enable.
rigid bronze
And rule bypassing can lead to a greater ban
livid pollen
You can say it in a code
like
11 and 6
.
I tried doing that once
nobody noticed
rigid bronze
@primal notch The thing is, people from every leagues can be in your game, so it would be too complicated
livid pollen
@rigid bronze Who should I dm to become a translator?
rigid bronze
rigid bronze
Choose your project, if there are no translator manager, you can contact the project managers (the top of the message)
livid pollen
Yeah no project manger
primal notch
But you should change the description then cause it says You eill play with Silver/Copper etc... players if none of them is Silver/Copper etc... you will play with the lower rank than you so thats why I sended this
@rigid bronze
rigid bronze
What is your language @livid pollen
livid pollen
Arabic
rigid bronze
Oki wait 2 sec I handle EggRoll
@primal notch I think the point of that system is also to keep the anonymity of every people
livid pollen
Who else hates being hh .-.
primal notch
Hmm it doesnt help towards being silver/copper Platinum etc if you dont know who are you playing fron
primal notch
Mk
rigid bronze
@primal notch You will still be with your league's level players, but if places are missing for your league/the other people league, they will come with you
But most of the people are your league's level
primal notch
Ok so can you play with Copper within being Silver??
rigid bronze
@livid pollen You can contact @meager gyro for being an Arabic translator 😁
@primal notchprobably but it will be rare
primal notch
Hmm mk
rigid bronze
(sorry for the ping Lisu :v)
meager gyro
You can dm @full falcon He is the new arabic translator helper 👀 👀
livid pollen
Uhhhh
sand dome
Rule 2 on here doesn't explicitly state role pings should never be used, even though that seems to be the rule (it states "because you can"). It should be edited.
livid pollen
I dmed alot of people
someone told me dm a mod
then someone
then that man told me to dm a mod again 😂
then lisa responded here
meager gyro
Should never be used is not true 😅 There can be reasons to role ping
You just should not use it without any valid reason @sand dome
Thanks for the suggestion ;)
@livid pollen I usually reply as soon as I can 
rigid bronze
@livid pollen Do what Lisa said, she is the one who can really help you 👀
hollow fable
make the F darker or something else to make it more visible
opaque pollen
The avatar slot list probably should be like the "free gold" was changed for the winter theme
runic dragon
cupid role is a bit confusing and conflict provoking. i just chose to get myself killed because my lover was a werewolf, while i was a villager, because i considered my odds of winning as village much higher, and some people considered that gamethrowing, which i disagree with. i suggest that "lover" subrole is elaborated a bit further in-game, and it's explained whether you can take advantage of being a lover to benefit your main team. either way it'd be great to know for sure.
forest rover
There’s a little problem with it.Once you’re coupled,your main (and it should be only) team is lovers.It is confirmed gamethrowing,even if you disagree with it. @runic dragon
runic dragon
yeah, in that case i'd just like that to be mentioned in-game. i know that now but i didn't 20 minutes ago and that led to me doing that
sharp lodge
jailer still had a bullet left so technically villagers should have won as corr wasn't last person alive
sacred sable
Who suggested that people gain less xp for being off or leaving game early lol?
Especially when Med dies and you can literally do nothing?
"-25% xp for being off/leaving game early when it ended"
11.25 xp
Yhis is 0.39.5 btw
runic dragon
i suggest either rewriting guidelines to ALLOW revealing your lover when they're from a different team, or REMOVE original team allegiance from lovers (but keep visible to seers and such) so there's no practical incentive to to so. otherwise there are situations where playing for the win is considered gamethrowing (killing your lover werewolf so you win as village).
median elbow
Suggestion stole of ToS. Roles in there ranked mode have different percentages on how often you will get a certain role. If WWO ranked was designed like this it would decrease 1 player getting a ww role 7 games in a row. The odds would give them a role they haven't been in a while, instead of always being a ww
runic dragon
I would like to see that recap in: Daily, Weekly, all Time
Idk if I'm explaining myself well
sudden dock
All time is already in your profile (excluding coins collected) but weekly and monthly could be really cool as well
median elbow
I agree
Remove the white border and make this a foreground prop and Easter egg. If you spectate a game in it's entirety you will unlock this item.
runic dragon
Holiday items and such should have something next to them that says limited edition or limited time next to them so we know
prisma vector
Patch Notes pop up when the game is changed
Things change suddenly and people think it's a bug or make decisions now knowing that something has changed
median elbow
@prisma vector this NEEDS to be a thing
balmy lark
Sorry nvm
iron girder
^ I agree
median elbow
@balmy lark it's a bug. It's an rrv that actually got corrupted during the last server restart.
It's not a feature. Just a simple bug.
lunar salmon
This is a super small, not important suggestion, but it's something I was just thinking I'd really like. It would be great if I could sell back talismans that I don't want. I have A BUNCH of talismans for evil roles and I hate being evil so I'll never use them. I'd love to sell them for 10 or 25 gold. I like having a really clean inventory and there's no way for me to get rid of them without using them, but I don't want to do that.
opaque pollen
@sharp lodge That's intended since Jailer could just indefinitely jail
lunar salmon
But if he had a bullet....
opaque pollen
@lunar salmon This has been suggested before 👍
proud pond
I get that the change regarding the hidden roles was implemented in order to prevent ethical suicide, but it’s a major disadvantage for the village. Even in ranked we have people who suicide first night because they don’t like their role, as well as people who go off first night and never come back, resulting in a suicide. In situations like this evil roles can easily claim whatever the suicider’s role was and get away with it. This change makes it so that suiciding villagers have even more impact on the game, it should be changed back to how it was before imo.
lunar salmon
@opaque pollen okay cool! Thanks then
opaque pollen
I seem to be the only Staff online but I need to go AFK for about 30 minutes. Sorry for delays
opaque pollen
There is a reason Lover's has one of the highest win experience amounts in the game. It's very tricky but worth it. Revealing your Lover's role for any reason with the exception of possibly saving their life is Gamethrowing regardless. Lover's is your top role when Coupled. That only changes if one of you becomes Zombie or Sect or bitten Cursed. There doesn't need to be changes to the system to excuse Gamethrowing because people don't like following rules, or to make it easier to win.
I agree that there needs to be further clarifications in the Rules but that is already being worked on. @runic dragon
@sudden dock @runic dragon I really like this idea! I'm going to post it in #feedback-devs 👍 I would rather a box to click to view the recap though rather than a pop-up since those are easily missable 
@Halley#4420 The ? role on death is a bug caused by the Server maintenance 👍 It's not an intended change
opaque pollen
@proud pond
prisma vector
that is on the very center of a small square
opaque pollen
@prisma vector Yeah Sheriff has the same problem
I'm sure it was suggested before but I'm going to repost it @prisma vector
prisma vector
thanks
opaque pollen
@prisma vector @median elbow Yeah I think a patch notes things maybe coming soon
👍
prisma vector
nice!
opaque pollen
@runic dragon Agreed! I missed-out on a lot of Easter thibgs becauee I didn't know
floral heath
Suggestion: Anonymise Chat option for Custom Games
In all games, you can see who sends what message. Example 5 is Seer and says 6 ww so it will show “5 (Player): 6 ww I’m seer”. When this option is active in a custom game, you can’t see who sends what message. Instead in that Example, assuming the option is now turned on in a custom game will not show “: 6 ww I’m seer”. This can be countered (obviously) by saying for example “I’m 5 and 6 is ww I’m seer” to let them know that you are the one saying it. Evil roles can also fake who says what and players will be able accuse others freely without exposing themselves. This would be a new and very chaotic game mode in custom that I would really like to see!
vernal dune
Hey @floral heath !
Your suggestion has quite a few problems...
First of all, is somebody was to spam in that game mode, you wouldn't be able to report it. Same goes with hate speech, racism, etc.
Second of all, it'll make a village win nearly impossible. This basically gives the wws the ability to speak as anybody, which is very op and unbalanced. Seer info would be really useless as nobody would trust anything...
Thank you for suggesting anyway 
runic dragon
Recieving sorcerer and president talismans should be disabled. Since they arent ingame
runic dragon
Please fix this. I bought the items but im not recieving it
why
Btw my app crashed while buying it but it took money out my credit card
quaint bramble
if your money was taken and you got a receipt, you can send an email to payment support (we dont have access to this since its delicate private info
runic dragon
modest pebble
Compensate us the coins due to server down today
quaint bramble
Has literally never been done before in all the time the game exists, and we cant anyway
quaint bramble
Yes server down time is a scam, and not at all either an unforseen event or a necessary game fix update 🤔
runic dragon
There ya go
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Like I said, email the above, we cant access private account info
quaint bramble
the email guys solve payment problems and can add your items toyour account manaually
runic dragon
Whats the use of this if discord is being useless couple of times now
quaint bramble
payment info involves private info, we are legally unable to access.
quaint bramble
really? I never heard of that before
runic dragon
yes
quaint bramble
well ask a friend to send it on their email, or make one its free and takes 10 seconds
or use your school/work email or something
runic dragon
🙄🙄 too much work!!! I bought it!!! And you should deliver it
its not my fault that this happens
THIS IS HOW U GONNA TREAT UR CUSTOMER?
geez
quaint bramble
Sigh dont go ranting on us again and again; its not your fault no, but errors can happen, for so many different reasons
sending an email really isnt supposed to be an effort
runic dragon
Tsk FINE BUT U BETTER GIVE ME SOME APOLOGY GIFT
quaint bramble
you will get your outfit and for the multiplied purchases a refund, is what Im expecting
quaint bramble
ofcourse, any email service will do
you send them your ig name and the receipts, and they will reply as soon as possible, max 2-3 days
This isnt your standard google refund thing, it's a costumer service that helps if theres actual purchase errors etc
the most optimal solution usually isnt a refund, its adding the item you bought to your account
modest pebble
Actually sorry I didnt read his previous reply oops!
I got that before but my payment was rejected
quaint bramble
And some people like to yell at us discord staff for being lazy or unhelpful, when it's literally something we dont have access to, aka players accounts.
modest pebble
Usually it’s not the game but our payment method is denied
peak knot
Apparently sheriff in ranked without announcement 🤡
quaint bramble
fc and gww too, the whole party is added
quaint bramble
dm Emanuel
peak knot
Yeah I did
runic dragon
@quaint bramble how many minutes till they reply?
quaint bramble
the max is 2-3 days, it depends on how busy it is :shrug: You could get a reply in 5 mins as well, i dont know
native epoch
Please don't add gww, fc, sheriff, ss in ranked
Gww: Priest/gunner/mm. etc can kill during daytime
FC: We have paci, not necessary
Sheriff and ss: both are forkmen until someone dies.
quaint bramble
yes, it wont magically appear in your inventory, they need to see your receipt and add the items
runic dragon
I gave them my receipt
the one with "GP" idk what its called but the gp thingy with numbers
quaint bramble
@runic dragon They can still be used in custom games ^^ And maybe one day we will actually get the ability to sell them back to the game
@native epoch It will take some time to get used to but I dont think theyre necessarily instantly bad for ranked. Gww can claim fc or make a villager suspicious by protecting them for example.
FC is differnt from paci, it prevents the lych but doesnt reveal the role so it should be less op which is a common complaint about paci.
Sheriff I agree is a difficult role to make good use of.... I personally dont really see it, but some people have actually called it op. The best way to go is, watching at the 2nd strongest role alive, as they are likely to get killed but unprotected
runic dragon
Hmn. Okay
Thank you
light edge
Spirit seer op in fool games
Put spirit seer in hh games
and auras in fool games
cedar hinge
Voting to skip discussion is useless when one fricking player is off.
quaint bramble
@cedar hinge Yup agreed, theres already some fb posted about there, go vote it :)
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651716854074834974
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651778859682889758
@light edge But spirit seer in ranked is rrv only atm? rrvs cant be sorted like that atm
light edge
rip fools
when spirit seer ig
as rv it can confirm fool day 1 just like rl
spirit seer is a huge buff for village.
gonna take ages until evil roles can fake spirit seer to counter that
runic dragon
I suggest that lovers don't win with village/werewolves/killers if they die so that there's no incentive to gamethrow. Basically when you die, you lose.
Cupid would still be able to win as both couple and village after death.
runic dragon
I mean this not as an excuse to gamethrow, but a way to discourage it.
I think that'd be a win-win for everyone
sacred sable
Suggestion:
Since seer app doesn't become seer when seer is corrupted, junior wolf/avenger shouldn't be able to tag a victim when corrupted either, seeing "that would be proof of their roles"
quaint bramble
That would significantly weaken the wws, thats kind of the difference here. If thats want you want, sure can post it, but it doest sound ideal to me
light edge
Can berserk please kill the attacked player and not the protectors?
protectors are claim space 🤦♂️
berserk is now useless
now people need to use berserk day 3 or 4 to win. no other strats
runic dragon
sect i need to link this again lmao
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/646503356906471426
they just modified it tho unlikely they modify again so soon
light edge
I can believe @runic dragon voted
light edge
well the dev voted it down. so that's the end of the story.
berserk is noob now
wanton terrace
median elbow
Sheriff shouldn't be in Ranked yet. It needs a lot more testing right now.
light edge
@sacred sable care to elaborate the down vote?
runic dragon
Things that would change wwo:
-
Better tutorial: a tutorial is the part of the game where a bot teach you how to play. The seer tutorial doesn't teach how to play. It just teach how to use seer. I wrote like 1-2 months ago a better tutorial so if you want to read it cuz I'm tired that no one know how to play
-
Remove the 3 rrvs in ranked: in the game the strong villagers often are: seer+another role that give info, med and 2 protectors. If you add 3 rrv (some info role and protectors are rrv), there is the chance that all the 3 rrvs are strong. One time I was ww and there were in game seer, 2 aura, 2 doc and bg (aura, doc and bg were rrv). So you should replace them with village 2ndary roles like mayor, witch or something else, but not rrvs.
-
Remove that suicide button: the suicide button allows you to leave the play, but now all use this if they have boring roles like doc or med and this is unacceptable. Since you are not forced to start a play for me you should remove it and if you don't want to play for a boring role, you just close the app and also if someone is off don't put by the "off" on the players skin and the suicide too. You just leave like if he's on so this will make the game experience better because if doc off wws won't know he is doc and even after 1 day because he suicides
sacred sable
Creepy.
runic dragon
Make some selfrole roles
quaint bramble
@runic dragon writing this tutorial only for seer, it was just a start to see if it works out, it is very time consuming but maybe one day it will be expanded into similar ones for other roles
If you replace rrvs with pre-determined roles, you got even more guarantee they are provable roles, it ill do the absolutely opposite of what you are asking 🤔 mayor, witch, paci for example are provable roles.
light edge
your 2nd point is hilarious.
you can't just let the village solve the game. you being evil have to fake in order to win.
so you want roles that can easily confirm themselves? easy win for village. no thank you @runic dragon
quaint bramble
Abut your last one; I acknowledge that suiciding because of 'boring' roles is a problem, but I dont think just removing the option is a fair fix. Sometimes people really have to leave fairly..
If you take away the option, anyone who doesnt want to play turns into a troll/spammer/gamethrower, which will impact your game in a much more negative way than just letting them exit the game.
peak knot
What about the follow suggestion:
- Reward solo killer roles slightly if ww win and reward ww slightly if solo killer wins.
This way the game basically tells the bad roles to cooperate with each other
languid cape
Werewolfs revealing sk day 1 means they lost the game already sk stabbing unconfirmed roles make both sk and the werewolfs lose I agree with youp
But this should only apply to solo killing roles
light edge
mods dont understand why solo should help ww or vice versa. @peak knot
I suggested it already
languid cape
xd
quaint bramble
But hey thats why I joined you guys 👀 Define 'slight reward' ?
and should it be equal in both cases?
peak knot
Max 5 points for winning with evil alliance
quaint bramble
edit up that msg and I will post it
peak knot
Ty
quaint bramble
unless you still wanna fight that is
runic dragon
Can we make a quotes channel?
quaint bramble
Uhm, but why?
quaint bramble
you can share them in #off-topic unless you have some really good arguments for adding a channel for it
Personally I think, maybe not everyone wants to be reminded of things they said
ruby kayak
Hello. Anyone admin here for my problem? This is too long so i want send message to him/her <@&531782089033383937> <@&420139637521121301> <@&446015574703603712> <@&446015884511674369>
pallid merlin
- What is your problem?
- To who do you want to send a message to?
- Don't ping roles, especially that much unless it is an emergency.
@ruby kayak
ruby kayak
Anyone guy wants me all roses. İf i dont give my roses he shoot me.(he was gunner). And we loose this match.
pallid merlin
Well did you report them in-game?
ruby kayak
Yes but i want be sure he get banned
pallid merlin
They will be dealt with by guardians once they hit the treshold then
limber lily
livid pollen
What about making an application for guardian?
quaint bramble
The application is currently closed because the new guardians got chosen today
runic dragon
@quaint bramble for the second, I know they are provable roles, but it's worse if you are ww and you have all strong rrv don't you think? I often play in sandbox with 1 rrv and I often win as ww, but in ranked there are always these rrvs and they make really difficult the ww winning cuz they can be doc or aura or something else and in fact I rarely win as ww in ranked
For the third point is someone have to go he just close the app, where is the problem it is not difficult to do.
The the trollers problem we can make that if a off dies his aura won't be red, but a different color like black.
@light edge also confirming themself mean revealing themself, so a rolecall.
Rolecalls should be did in late game, if village make them in early game is a bit illegal cuz you should find ww with roles like seer or aura and not rolecalls in early game
livid pollen
I just joined this discord today .-.
quaint bramble
Keep an eye out on #community-announcements if you want to become guardian, there will probably be new applications in the future
@runic dragon You really misunderstood what 'confirm yourself' means. Mayor's ability is literally revealing himself, for example. It really doesnt help make the village weaker unless you want to replace rrv with 3 forkman
The rrvs are a major claim space for wws, to fake.
And what is that idea about different auras for offfline players about..?
shut wasp
Please do something with those people who report others without meaning.. i was aura.. 12 was suspicious for me.. i thought he is pretending as spirit seer.. since there was only one ww left and another sus player was unknown, i checked 12.. 12 was enchanted And i just gave info that 12 evil and we voted him.. but they reported me.. why do people use report in this way..
runic dragon
@shut wasp guardians have to confirm all reports, so you won't get banned
lament knoll
@light edge unfair, i posted such a suggestion 1 1/2 weeks ago :3 well then again i'm no mod so ur call :p
shut wasp
Thank you.. i have a doubt.. what if people reported me with fake information
quaint bramble
The staff checks all reports, and they can see the game chat so they will be disregarded. if someone sends a lot of false reports, they can get banned themselves.
runic dragon
@quaint bramble so where is the problem of "confirm yourself"? And offline?
quaint bramble
@runic dragon You want to replace 3 mystery roles with 3 confirmed roles, explain again how that fixes the problem/ helps wws?
and you said something vague about offline players showing black or red.. they already show black so I didnt really get it
runic dragon
@quaint bramble you show a black aura when you die not when you are alive
light edge
@runic dragon
maybe play differently as wolf? cause I win as ww frequently. luck regarding rvs? I think not.
check out my videos to improve 🤡
shut wasp
Thank you so much for your replies❤
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Eh still doesnt make sense? and again, how does it improve the game?
runic dragon
@light edge you can play different as ww how much as you can, even with being fake rrv aura, but if you have 3 seers and 3protectors you prob lose. When I think about wwo I think of a strategy game not a God pls bless me that the 3 rrvs are secondary roles
@quaint bramble because if people suicide you know they are gone so it's easier for village or wws. If you make like what I said if you are off no one knows that, so if doc is off wws don't know it and they don't go on seer for example
light edge
it is a strategy game. biggest issue are weak evil roles @runic dragon
probable roles are the worst for evil roles
sacred sable
Yeah, let's take all the RNG out and give the teams that give more xp fpr being more difficult to win with, a better chance to win
🤔
runic dragon
@light edge wws for me aren't weak cuz I often play in sand and I often win, but I don't win in ranked even if the players are the same: sometimes doc suicide and players don't know how to play. You have just to make 2+2 to understand that the problem are roles
quaint bramble
you're talking to a gold ranked player, he knows how the game works... And still, you never explained how your idea makes ww win more.
So ping me again if you can properly explain it, thanks
might want to add an example of gameplay
lapis drum
I completely agree with sect on wolves being the weakest. I’ve been preaching this for like two months now lol.
However, I do wanna say that wolves should not always auto win from numbers. For instance this last game could have been saved by gg (who claims they muted the last wolf before they died) but since the game saw one wolf and one villager, they auto won.
6 was gg, only gunner and a wolf were alive along with gg. Gg was killed but said they muted 10. If we played the day out, vill would have won. Same if mayor was last alive.
Just like a solo player doesn’t auto-win, I think wolves should only auto-win if there isnt a chance they can be out-voted
Ik this will make wolves even weaker, but it kinda unnecessarily weakens roles like mayor or gg. Thoughts?
quaint bramble
@lapis drum I really disagree on that, wolves have smaller chances to win, theyre a smaller team. It would be a big nerf to them.
If you have those village powers, then use them before you're outnumbered. Everyone knows the wolves will win like that after all?
runic dragon
Upgrade league for rank. Like after gold could be platinum or so on
lapis drum
Hmm, I don’t think it’s rly a “big” nerf since this should only happen when applicable, however, I do agree that villagers should use their abilities effectively. And since they do have so much time to use them to deduce baddies, you’re right. Wolves would deserve it if they can avoid being killed or exposed. 👍🏾
Didn’t think about how long village has before losing.
peak knot
@runic dragon You don't know how many times we have already suggested that 😂
We neeed skill separation asap
sacred sable
We need people that actually know how to play and gripe less about people not knowing how to strat >>
This isn't Overwatch <<
lapis drum
I think Kit meant there just needs to be less complaining in general lol.
From everyone I assume
sacred sable
How to play =/= how to strat
And yes, everyone
Including me
The one getting focused every other game because I'm the only player in quickplay English with an outfit
lapis drum
Ohh I see. Yea now that I totally agree with.
Okok. But what I wanna know is does anyone have any other suggestions for strengthening wolves in ranked? 😩
sacred sable
Add Cursed to ranked instead of a third rrv.
Done
Village has to worry about Cursed, and wws can find Cursed and either turn ASAP (bad) or wait for later (good)
lapis drum
We’ve suggested that but I think it was denied? Lemme check.
I personally think that’s the best option for now while other wolves are being tested right now.
lapis drum
Not in a while no.
But I remember brainstorming with someone here and if I’m not mistaken that was one of the suggestions.
sacred sable
Better idea would be to just
Take away ranked because why not
👀
sacred sable
Lol
lapis drum
😪
night path
mama been pinged, do we need help
runic dragon
I explained it, if you are a ww is better have 3 confirmed village roles or 3 rrvs? If you have 3 village roles confirmed you can't act like rrv aura, but there are lots of strategies you can do for every role.
If you have 3 rrvs you can have 3 secondary roles, true, but you can have 3 strong role too @quaint bramble
quaint bramble
And then you suggested to use mayor and granny, who are self confirming roles. So again I need an example to explain how its better, cause it really isnt...
what would a ww claim, if all roles are exactly listed already?
and how can they confuse the village, if there is literally no extra auras etc?
prisma vector
As I suggested before
probably the biggest way to balance would be to remove some permanently probable roles and add more rvs
allowing wws to fake better
remove priest and aura from a platinum league
make it 5 rvs
the current problem is that village wins as soon as they confirm all roles and all roles can confirm somehow except for the 3 rvs and the doc
so village is basically a "race to the finish" to confirm the rvs and the docs, that's how the game should be played optimally
if you add more roles to prove, you add more difficulty
floral heath
I would prefer Mayor in place of Priest as Mayor can also reveal himself but he can’t kill himself nor kill a ww at random which makes the game less swingy
prisma vector
Having a permanent major would be unfun for the major and the wolves. He would be asked to reveal turn 1 every time if he is guaranteed to be there
floral heath
- already suggested but HH needs to go, a smart village ain’t gonna kill him and most HH don’t play to win Solo anyway
prisma vector
the reason they don't reveal immediately right now is just to bait wolves to false claims
violet storm
OMG THIS NIGHT WHEN I WAS FALL ASLEEP BY THE NIGHTMARE WW I GOT AN IDEA
why not do..
A film?
floral heath
But the ghosts on the screen are a really cool effect tho
violet storm
Its about the village with all roles wanted to defeat the solos and the werewolfs
No?
I WANT TO BE ACTOR IN THIS FILM
floral heath
Hmm I got a non popular suggestion here but what about replacing priest with the cursed and then leaving everything else as it is
sacred sable
Btw
Why isn't Cursed on rrv list?
🤔
floral heath
It technically isn’t pure village
quaint bramble
Adding cursed to rrv has been suggested before, and I personally do like the idea
sacred sable
Cursed is just like Villager except it can be turned
floral heath
And that would add more unfairness to rvs with the confirmable rvs and 3 cursed spawning theories
sacred sable
Why not have it on RRV list
I've legit had THREE PACIS or THREE MAYORS on ranked one game
Tell me why Cursed is bad on RRV list lol
prisma vector
Cursed can't confirm though
floral heath
Anything that can’t be an HH’s target shouldn’t be RV either
sacred sable
What rrvs should really do is
Have a function where
If someone got rrv and is already a role, nobody else that gets RRV should be able to get that role from RRV
So two docs or auras can happen
But not 3-4 of one type
prisma vector
you can claim cursed as tg/bh/bg to waste wws checks/attacks. Like there could be legit strategies for village if cursed was introduced as well.
sacred sable
Imagine four priests killing themselves because everyone is saying "this one is evil, water quick!"
floral heath
Like I said, anything that can’t be the target of Hh shouldn’t be RV
prisma vector
@sacred sable village will probably win day 2 depending on if berserk or not and who died night 1
since now you know all evil + doc
you can just shoot + vote + jail -> shoot + vote -> vote -> vote
berserk or having jailer die night 1 could make it harder
floral heath
Your thought is clouded, Medium and Jailer ain’t gonna claim that easy even if 4 priests water and die. And if they do, it’s possible that one of the evils are going to counter, like why wouldn’t they. If there’s a Fool there’s a huge element of luck (or actual solo HH who will get countered) and you got to take into consideration who WW and the Solo Killer are killing and also 4 priest dying gives WWs very high control if they don’t play passively
prisma vector
@floral heath na, like what would happen is
First off you will shoot or vote the person who gave the wrong info
then you would check if aura or det (if only claims) gave any info for you to work with in order to vote/shoot a second target
if more than 1 claim or if no info, you save bullet for tomorrow
next day you know jailer and med so all roles are confirmed but doc
floral heath
The person who gave the wrong info day 1 about 80% of the time is Junior ww
prisma vector
it's cool, he can kill aura or det or try to random between med/jailer/doc
I had this discussion at one point with sect, and it was a worse scenario
me with 3 forkies
and having my gunner and priest shoot/water wrong targets
and even with that scenario only arso would win
although arso would win basically guaranteed
but wolves still have an impossible time
if village confirms all roles it's hard for wolves to win
floral heath
Because the Village would rather help arso is that what you are saying?
prisma vector
no
because as village votes arso would douse
like it's a race
and arso has the best kill power
floral heath
Yeah if he douses the right people
prisma vector
yea
for sure
we were assuming a worst case scenario for village and best case scenario for evil
so evil killed med turn 1
as an example
evil has a really hard time in this game and the only reason they win is people don't play village optimally imo. I have lost very few games (I would say less than 10) as vilalge where it wasn't due to a very obvious mistake
that could have been avoided if played better
floral heath
Evils have a harder time because people are getting smarter when they play as Village than they do Non-Village. That’s why splitting Ranks is a bad idea, a game with mixed levels adds an extra depth.
prisma vector
I don't agree with that last statement
you're trying to balance a game through human error
that makes the game always feel unfair to players that actually know what they are doing
it becomes frustrating
floral heath
People these days have a hard time distinguishing between noobs and gamethrowers and everyone thinks they are the same. They’re not, and the game is about trust and teamwork. So if you can not convince your peers to work against the evils then you will have a harder time.
prisma vector
I am one that believes splitting ranks would actually probably solve a lot of problems
since some of the reasons playing evil is extremely frustrating is because only very few evils actually even try
if it was say "Platinum" and "Diamond" league, you would start seeing many more evil try different strats which would make the players in those leagues feel like the game is worth playing when they are evil
In the same vein there would be way less people angry at lower levels, since there would be less "pros" trying to control what they do and telling them they are playing wrong
Plus their games would be more chaotic with less good players figuring everything out day 2, which would lead to probably more fun to people who aren't as invested in being better at the game (at least I assume that is fun for them)
undone lion
Give everyone the rules once they join the game
the people act like they read rules and gamethrow
sacred sable
Suggestion:
Take away everyone's avatar customization on April Fool's day
(As in make everyone look like day 1 avatars)
Give everyone a whole day of no skin focusing
rigid bronze
I think you can DM adev for a feedback like that uhu
runic dragon
@quaint bramble ok,aybe you can put one rrv, but If you want a list here you are a list:
Seer
Doc
Aura
Bg
Gunner
Jailer
Rrv
Priest
Mayor
Cursed
Normal ww
Jww
Shaman ww
WW seer
Fool/hh
Assassin
stoic fable
@sacred sable bruh i like that but the "bug" reports would be flowing
quaint bramble
@runic dragon So basically a quickgame role setup for ranked? jsut cause it works there, it doesnt mean it'll work in ranked too, people play very differently in ranked
runic dragon
@quaint bramble not always, I played in high ranked one time, not that different from sand
Horrible😱
BTW i'm tired to discuss
sacred sable
What's horrible is seeing those top 100 players playing like idiots <<
runic dragon
Can we continue tomorrow?
quaint bramble
Same, it's really not going to work, Im not putting a suggestion to remove all rrvs from ranked...
runic dragon
@sacred sable with you
quaint bramble
Try a different staff next, Im not gonna answer this thing again
and if you wanna complain about players, go somewhere else please
sacred sable
Just make Cursed an RRV and we good
And make RRV roles unable to have copy roles
As in RRVS can't have more than one copy of an RRV role
runic dragon
@quaint bramble btw if you want a real suggestion here you are: modify the ranked roles
prisma vector
while I understand the sentiment of not having repeat roles, it would make it harder for ww to fake roles if you can't have repeat
I think it would be better to add more RVs that can't prove themselves easily
sort of like what's been happening lately
RL, FC, etc
although FC isn't exactly hard to prove
but at least you have to waste a turn
sacred sable
No, see
Rrvs can still copy in-game roles like doc or aura
prisma vector
no but I mean
if I try to fake mms and someone else claims mms
you'll know one of us is fake
sacred sable
Just rrvs cant have a copy of another rrv
To prevent say, all three rrvs being one useless role
And to counter potential triplet Cursed rrvs
quaint bramble
The thing is, these kind of changes to rrv has been suggested and posted a few times before already
prisma vector
so you'll limit roles that can be faked easily
stoic fable
Idk if this has been suggested but if cannibal doesnt eat after the 5 days, they should die of "starvation"
quaint bramble
@stoic fable yup, suggested this week;
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651364891223130113
stoic fable
Oh okay
sacred sable
Dunno why anyone would wait more than the five nights
This isn't FNAF
opaque pollen
Maybe to have Village forget or think you're offline
sacred sable
Even though the longer you wait, the more they scramble to find you to kill
lament knoll
Solo killing roles are gambling anyways :p
I always wait as long as i can as canni bc if there are only 7 ppl left including me i can kill all of them in one night, if you kill every night they are too alarmed and how Cap said, many ppl assume the offline persons are canni then and kill them :p
Plus if you kill later the probability that you kill off all wws which make the game easier for you is less high :p
But that's gettin #wov-chat eh
sacred sable
Might as well make sk suicide after three nights of no killing
scarlet ember
Why is the wheel of Fortune rigged to where I have to watch 10k adds to get a single piece of clothing.
queen dagger
How about at the end of each season, you would give players an amount of lootboxes according to their rank or a free avatar?
Just saying cuz players like me who doesn't have luck with gold have problems with donating at clans
sacred sable
Ranked alrwady gives you the choice of an outfit piece or gold based on rank range
sacred sable
The point pf ranked is to encourage competition and earning rewards though >>
quaint bramble
if everyone could just get gold/outfits, theneveryone would troll the heck out of ranked just to get free items/gold. Not what we want in ranked at all..and there is already a lot of free items.
sacred sable
But I do feel like top 1000 in a game supporting some 100k+ is a little small
quaint bramble
If you want to know about more ways to earn gold, check the pinned messages in #questions ^^
thin dome
I agree with the idea that you guys added that hh and fool can’t be sected or bit, but only to a certain extent. I believe if hh’s target is dead and he/she becomes village then they can be sected/bit.
Prolly has been suggested before, but I dont think I’ve seen it in awhile.
thin dome
Yea they changed it awhile ago
lament knoll
It got changed in 0.38.0 or somrthing, but seemed to had been changed again in 0.38.2/0.39.1, atleast players claimed it had gotten changed again
You sure it did happen to you again somewhere around the lines of 0.39.1 - 0.39.3 ?
I think the deal with deal is that, hh stays the role hh even if their target dies, that is why they are still killable by mm and do =/= to a villager (/everyone)
Headhunter only changes winning conditions and not their whole role so ig in order to make it logical he should become a literal villager -> role change
Just like bit villagers get zombies that'd avoid these issues
sacred sable
I strictly remember being able to bite fool/hh
But not secting
But if you can do one, you should be able to do both
lament knoll
Biting wasnt possible either back then
sacred sable
I swear it was when 38.5 first rolled
Rhen 39.1 hit and suddenly
"Nah, never was a thing"
Then again, I can never prove/disprove cuz when I NEED to, I csn never find zombies or sect
Let alone fool/hh
AH, A DEV
brb
And back
lament knoll
Well, it's hard to differ between actual feedback having been implemented and bugs sometimes :p
Best example was the ww berserk paradoxon
There was a time where frenzy only killed protectors, which has been a feedback before so it seemed like a feature but Emanuel told us for sure he did not change it this way :p
~~tho that was only a semi bug because it can happen if the protector protects the corruptor/sk/canni and wws attack that role during frenzy, frenzy cannot kill solos either so only the protector dies
Sometimes you change one thing and upon that a new bug develops :p
But people claimed they could not bite hh/fool either in 0.38.0
Anyhow - i'll need to know if the hh not being able to get sected is still a thing in the current version as this has seemed to been an on-off thing and i dont wanna post a feedback about it if it's not a thing anymore :p
@thin dome ^
Ping me whenever you answer ^^
sacred sable
Idr exactly
Just everyone been sticking to 0.38
If you look
A lot of downvoted ideas are in game
runic dragon
i’m rooting for a berserk nerf but this nerf is unbalanced
can i repost a suggestion put in #feedback-devs again
modest pebble
Remove the frenzy icon upon berzerker death at night time to avoid confusion.
————————————————— .
Spirit Seer (Inform if either of those ‘two players’ has killed last night) change either one:
- Weakest ww (reg/jw) that doesn’t participate in the vote shouldn’t show bad.
- Rephrase the Spirit Seer description for WW teams
FYI, if I’m not wrong TG will only see the weakest ww that voted TG or TG’s target.
quaint bramble
If you want to report a clan, you should send screenshots/proof to a guardian
Or could you re word that question?
@runic dragon
@modest pebble Spirit seer is not related to voting, it's based on kills. Ww's attack/kill as a team, so if someone died by ww attack, then any selected ww will show red, regardless of their voting or being ww seer or jailed etc
The frenzy icon thing has been suggested a few times, but I think it;s due a repost because adding it to ranked has indeed made it a more relevant issue agaiin
runic dragon
We server hasnt guardian
quaint bramble
What do you mean? what exactly is the problem with this clan anyway?
woeful mesa
Hi, I think there is something wrong with the last feedback, from what I know the frenzy should work if berzerk is killed at night Or it changed in the last update, in that case forget my comment haha
quaint bramble
As far as i know, it gets cancelled when berserk dies, either by lynch or by jailkill, arso etc
woeful mesa
Oh really?🤔
I'm pretty sure that before if berzerk died by jail frenzy would still work, my bad
median elbow
I love this feature
prisma vector
So this is kind of a weird suggestion, but the fact that people have the ability to report leads to a lot of using reports as a means to get in game credibility or power. I have no idea how this could be avoided/fixed since reporting is a needed feature but I do think it's a toxic like behavior.
Example is real wolves, who have obviously said something that immediately pin points they are wolves claiming that they will report gunner if they shoot them and gunner actually believing it
kind nexus
median elbow
@prisma vector that's not allowed. The ww can't say he's gonna report someone if they do this action
Guardians look at all bans too
median elbow
Yeah that's also an illegal strategy. "The detective is game throwing report him" is a illegal strategy and bannanle. Same with the threats to report the gunner. The ww should be reported in this situation.
prisma vector
Ok, that's good to know
I am more so talking about things like a ww claiming something, being proven he isn't that thing and then reclaiming and saying if he is shot he will report gunner
and gunner actually doubting if he should shoot
median elbow
Yeah the ww would still be reported here
prisma vector
Ok, good to know
runic dragon
I suggest that holiday items and such should have something next to them that says limited edition or limited time next to them so we know
lament knoll
Heyaaa @runic dragon
Yea i do agree with that and in fact, this suggestion has just been posted a couple of days ago, if you want to you can give it a
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/651168450009366548
Thanks for your suggestion tho
sacred sable
My experience:
If player is claiming two things one after the other, after being disproved of the role
They usually bad
spring hedge
Or fool
sacred sable
Hence "bad"
placid arrow
Idk if anyone saw the last time I requested this, but I think if we get dupe items in loot boxes we should either be able to sell extras or gift them. I get loot boxes all the time but i have everything now so theyre mostly useless. TY!!
spring hedge
I like that idea
quaint bramble
@placid arrow heya, perhaps you noticed you never actually got more than one of the sme item in your inventory?
Thats because your duplicates get turned into a small amount of coins as soon as you receive them ^^
duplicate items : you will get gold for duplicate items from lootboxes
grey item = 5 Gold
blue item = 15 Gold
purple item = 50 Gold
gold item = 200 Gold
placid arrow
Weird! I never notice that I get gold from them but know Ive gotten dupes. Ill have to pay more attention next time!
quaint bramble
It gets added right as the lootbox opens, not when you tap to claim the item, so sadly it does lack a nice visual for this ^^
placid arrow
mmm. Then my suggestion is maybe a cute visual would be nice! 😂
hollow mortar
1.) Village should not be allowed to decide not to kill solo roles like sl, zombie; just to discover wws. Example: i was in sandbox mode and I was a villager but the seer found out who was sl first night. Sl did not at any time of the game (even when they died by jww) sect the seer but the seer said not to kill them since they can find wws. Thing was they weren’t even a couple that Cupid paired so I feel that shouldn’t happen.
2.) bringing up Cupid, couples that Cupid make should only be allowed to win if they survive as a couple. Example: I was in a game where the couple happened to be a Villager and a ww; and the wws ending up winning. I feel like if Cupid couples you, your only winning condition should change from whatever role you previously were and your aim should be to win as couple not “Villager or Wws”
quaint bramble
we kind of already answered this in role-ideas
sacred sable
I move that devs revert xp gain to normal
You shouldn't gain less xp because you died night 1 and don't want to sit in a match lasting 8 days watching village be dumb
Let alone being focused in-game
lament knoll
If you died night 1 and left you contributed nothing to the game
i see no reason why you should get the full reward for doing nothing tbh
i dont see the point of getting any reward for doing nothing tbh :p
sacred sable
So people that leave the second they die after lasting 6 days should also lose xp?
Don't ask me why people leave the moment they die
lament knoll
Sure, you could still be from use, also less games last 6 days and if they did already last so long they'll end soon, these 2 minutes wont kill you
sacred sable
Which reminds me
Since we lose 25%xp for leaving/being off in game
Do you lose more/gain less skill for being off/leaving game?
prisma vector
I am like 90% you don;t
I've tested it many times and it seems to be the same amount of sps
lament knoll
What exactly's the difference between these two?
its 4 am and i dont rly get it :p
prisma vector
I mean leaving after I die and med has already revived*
sacred sable
Cuz both seem to be sbsurdly immensely important to everyone
lament knoll
Ah oh i just got it nvm
sacred sable
Yeah, basically am saying that both should gain/lose 25% xp
Or neither
Cuz both are used by people for some odd specific reason to dictate how good/bad someone is
So punish/praise players for it
Encourage the elitism!
lament knoll
Not really... i met alot of lvl 1k players which are relatively bad at playing and i know some players which are good at a lvl let's say 57
Also to see their Level you would need to check everyone's profile, idk if alot of people actually check through 15 profiles before they start playing :p
I'll ask my colleagues again how it's handled in ranked and i'll search up if it has been suggested before
sacred sable
You'd be surprised at how little life these playerbases have
But my main reason for wanting normal xp gain back is
15xp for completing game
but -25% xp for being off as hh when game ended
11.25 xp
1 1 . 2 5 x p
My OCD
lament knoll
pretty sure its 11 xp then tho, or 12 but logically 11
sacred sable
Who knows
vivid blaze
Today after a game in which gunner shot fool at random for no reason, I said to report gunner but 2 guys started arguing with me with total nonsense. With typical delusions such as "he shot the fool so it's ok" etc etc.
I spent like 15 mins explaining so long but they still refused to let go of their ego, narcissism and delusion, and just didn't get the point, or rather refused to learn.
So as soon as I left I kinda got a good idea which can significantly help players and clear their delusions. How about whenever you open the game, you show a hint popup message saying things like "random shooting is not allowed regardless of role", "shooting confirmed villagers is strictly forbidden", etc etc. And also maybe game tips like "try to protect the seer at top priority", "try not to random vote with fool/hh ig", etc.
I have seen many games use this popular feature, i.e. displaying hints at the start, during loading, etc. as it significantly helps the players learn and improve, and in the long term, improving the games so so much.
Let me know what you guys think. Having some hints shown when the app opens and also maybe on the load screen. And in that window maybe u can also have a next button to see the next hint, or having just one hint for each time is fine also.
There are so so many other positives and long term benefits too that this can bring which aren't really necessary to mention. You can imagine.
Helpers plz check this suggestion out I'm very insistent on this. If you wanna discuss about anything let me know, else plz post it to devs asap.
thin dome
@lament knoll I haven’t had the chance to check, but in the old versions hh could be sected even if it’s target was alive and now it can’t be sected at all. I think there needs to be a middle ground to this. Basically, it’s like saying the hh is an assassin and is so determined to get it’s target, but another assassin gets it first, so the hh becomes a normal person part of society again rather than a “fugitive”. Sorry, I like analogies. 😂
lament knoll
@sacred sable how about you lose 25% of the xp if you left/went offline before a certain day, such as idk... day 4?
And if you stayed until day 4 you'll receive the xp regardless of having been online etc?
I'd definetely not give that option in every opportunity bc if you leave after day 1-3 you do not contribute anything important to the game hence you should not be rewarded for it :p
thin dome
So basically hh should be allowed to be sected when their target dies, but until their target is dead, they can’t be sected.
lament knoll
Heyaaa @vivid blaze
I actually remember this suggestion from somewhere... i think it has been suggested before but i couldn't find anything about it.
That indeed does sound like a nice idea :p
So like adding "hints of the day" and "rule-reminders of the day"
Sounds like fun honestly, and effective👀
Would decrease unawareness aka claimed unawareness of the rules by a lot...
I'll post that for you, thanks for your feedback
spring hedge
@vivid blaze you didn't include everything.
vivid blaze
@spring hedge sorry what do you mean? Please elaborate
lament knoll
@thin dome ahh alright i'll ask around my colleagues again, if it's still like this :p
I'll get back to you later
sacred sable
Min, I'm sorry but
Even with popups for rules, players would just click/tap out of it instantly
thin dome
Ok
vivid blaze
Btw @lament knoll there are a couple of spelling mistakes in the suggestion u posted. Please correct the "situation" and "shot" instead of shoot
sacred sable
They barely even read chat during a game
I don't think players would actively read a popup upon opening the game
lament knoll
This is not meant to solve the issue completely only to decrease it
There is always a loophole to everything.
spring hedge
They don't read chat!?
vivid blaze
@sacred sable again, there's no point in going into the rare negatives
spring hedge
That's how you win
sacred sable
Can make popup unstoppable until you scroll down fully
vivid blaze
Nope. That'll be just annoying tbh
sacred sable
no point
rare negatives
I speak as if it's the masses
Because it is
spring hedge
I have a question
vivid blaze
Well if they don't read it's their loss.
@spring hedge I still don't get your question
lament knoll
People which don't wanna improve won't ever improve
If we keep nitpicking the only effective solution is making the game pay to play...
sacred sable
So everyone's game experience should be terrible because nobody will read the rules? Got it @vivid blaze
vivid blaze
@sacred sable Did you read my entire message and can you realize how much positives this solution can bring?
Well unless ofc you wanna stick to rare and pointless negatives
And btw, not reading or not being aware the rules is, just, dumb
And it will be terrible if u play without knowing how to play....duh
sacred sable
M'kay done reading your posts now.
spring hedge
Is it ok to shoot someone who you find suspicious. Example: someone is random voting and fool in game but you know from experience that when people random vote they are usually fool and want to be voted so if you gunner is it ok to shoot possible fool
Same as knights story but from different thinking and experience
vivid blaze
@sacred sable
I'm not surprised just disgusted yet again.... some people choose to argue about literally the littlest of small loopholes rather than the 99% positive it brings. Even when the little issues are deliberate. If the user chooses not to read the rules, they are the ones not learning well and it's their choice. Not that there's anything wrong in the suggestion. If you have a better suggestion plz say it or else plz don't argue about pointless things and trying to bring good suggestions down
spring hedge
Who are you talking to now knight?
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
There's a huge difference between suspicion and justification
spring hedge
People kill all the time for suspicion
vivid blaze
And random voting isn't a justification for someone to be bad. Anybody can, and many do, random vote
prisma vector
So random shooting isn't ok but random voting is?
spring hedge
According to him. Yes
vivid blaze
And just admit it. You were one of the guys in that game too who was arguing with me right? You just wrote the exact same message as the guy did in the game.
prisma vector
The reason random voting is ok is because wolves will normally random vote to cause chaos
lament knoll
Random voting isnt punished as it takes several people to lynch someone so it's a collective fault
prisma vector
but then that leads to the conclusion that shooting someone who random votes should be ok
vivid blaze
@prisma vector
Regardless of random voting being allowed or not, it's not an excuse to random shoot.
prisma vector
since there is legitimate suspicion they could be wolf as that should be the only reason to do it
lament knoll
Guardians cant see who votes whom anyways
sacred sable
prisma vector
I don't agree, random voting almost always leads to discovery of evil players
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
Please think twice before sharing fake bs about me.
"According to him, yes" is seriously rude
prisma vector
it's one of the different tools in an arsenal
prisma vector
as someone in the top 100 list, I discover MANY evil through checking voting habits
sacred sable
What if people never vote though
lament knoll
Yo guys just a heads up would you care to move to #wov-chat if you dont wanna give a suggestion?
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
You are sharing stuff about me that I never said. So u better stop it. Plz try to bother to read through my messages before sharing stuff about me
And @lament knoll just answered your doubts, so please stop arguing now.
lament knoll
My doubts? I didnt doubt anything
Plus questions should be asked and answered in #questions anyways.
There is no point in arguing about your personal issues that developed through the answering anyways.
@spring hedge pls stop it. Thanks.
Knight felt offended, you gotta accept that and done.
vivid blaze
Sorry @lament knoll you misread 😂
I was talking to the other people and meant that you answered their doubts
lament knoll
Goodbye.
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
I clearly have but u just refuse to accept the truth. So nvm
spring hedge
Experience
vivid blaze
And @lament knoll I'm reminding u again that please try to control or remind these people to behave
Publicly defaming is a serious offence so yeah
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
A calm reminder plz stop indirectly insulting people. This is your final warning
spring hedge
@lament knoll did you say this suggestion part
@vivid blaze how am I indirectly insulting you
lament knoll
Would you please stop this or take it to dms. It really does not belong into this channel.
@spring hedge also what do you mean?
vivid blaze
@spring hedge
Read through your messages and think again. I mentioned it in my replies also.
Also, if u wanna know the difference between suspicion and justification, or meaning of things like 'defamation', there's something called Google so try reading that.
I gtg too now so bye bye tc 👋
spring hedge
@lament knoll you said that this was suggestion part
Also what's DMS. I'm bad with word shortages
lament knoll
This channel is a channel for suggestions.
Not for questions.
Not for drama, since you agreed to our rules you should know rule 6 says that you should keep the channels for their original purpose
This channel's purpose is feedback.
Questions belong into #questions
Discussions about the game into #wov-chat .
Dms is direct messages.
spring hedge
@lament knoll is this feedback place a place to make suggestions.
lament knoll
Yes it is.
lament knoll
Alright hit me up ^^
little heads up, if you're on mobile, you can swipe left and you'll see the channel topic, like that you know which channel serves which purpose.
spring hedge
Can you add a village team talisman that gives a higher chance to be on village and because it's not for a specific role make it mabye 10 gold rather ten 25
I don't like being ww so if this happened it would be amazing
sacred sable
Also add anti-talismans
So players can pick a role they DON'T want
IE I suck at Cursed and Med so I'd like to NOT be those
Maybe make the anti-talismans infinite, but hard to get
spring hedge
I'd get anti talisman for all we role of my suggestion not happen but your does
For all ww role no we role
sacred sable
No, they'd only work for one role each
And only one equipped at a time
spring hedge
Auto correct keeps changing ww to we
sacred sable
No general team anti-talismans
spring hedge
Ya
sacred sable
Only specific roles
lament knoll
Aaah yea
We indeed got a similar suggestion having been posted only a few days ago, it's about aura-orientated talisman tho, so if you buy a talisman for a good aura that basically means one for the village team :p
You can upvote it if you want to, the link to it is
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/649857981374267393
You might want to update that :3
sacred sable
Wait, what about the village roles that are unknown auras?
spring hedge
Still good
The other post was where I got idea from. I didn't upvote it though because I had to go and then I couldn't find it when I got back
It's a good idea
lament knoll
You'd have to get an unknown talisman for it with the risk of getting alpha or a solo role👀
If you wanna become a specific unknown villager you can also only buy a regular talisman for it
There aren't that many unk villagers.
~~in sandbox there are in fact 4 out of 12, plus team talisman have already been suggested quite alot before but this seems like a more specific suggestion as you cannot only decide your team but ur aura which can be in favor for a lot of strategies
Reverted Talismans
Already been suggested before but a while back, i guess i could give it a repost
Thanks for your suggestion
spring hedge
How close are we to getting aura talisman
I need to know
Like in good aura talisman
Are we close to getting it
lament knoll
Do you mean getting it in-game?
We don't know. It's actually totally up to the devs
normal wyvern
Since Illusionist is already for a few people in the game:
When the illusionist illuse someone and this person got killed by village/werewolves/not by the illusionist and this player got revived by the medium, the illuse icon didn't appeared after the revive, like bomber's bomb would disappear. It should be the same for Illusionist then to make it a bit harder for him. Example he illused seer, seer got killed by the werewolves and revived by the medium, the illusionist can kill the seer inmediatly which is definitely too strong then. The illusionist should illuse revived players again when they got killed before they got killed by him.
rigid bronze
Good
normal wyvern
(Nexo XDDDD ly)
rigid bronze
(shhh)
cedar hinge
Nice, reversed talismans are things I like
reverse doc
runic dragon
can you lower the prize of 1 person clan quest? 2400 for a person is too much to bear
quaint bramble
@spring hedge I dont think an aura/team talisman is a good idea. It will help people teaming by picking their team more effectively. They dont make much sense to me honestly.
Esp unk aura is such a wide scope of role from solos to strong villager...
@Smoky#2944 Clans are supposed to be a social club, join an active clan if its too muh to do alone ;)
You can ask around in #wov-chat or check out the clans of good players you meet in the game...
@runic dragon
cedar hinge
Buff Flower Child, it's really useless apart from protecting yourself
Like you can use the ability twice
forest rover
Not every villager need to be op 👀
light edge
lol
fc Balance provable roles with susp roles. i like it. its more a bluff for evil roles than village
fc is a gamethrower role already. if you use your protect solo killers get free douses/ kills
being able to do it twice is way too much
runic dragon
Twice is half the game already
Village without lynching in general would collapse no matter fc saved a villager or ww or solo
forest rover
So,imo,loyalty tokens are quite difficult to get,and they just give you that you don’t need to watch ads and some outfits.I believe that loyalty tokens outfits are the most difficult to get (without finished bp) so I think that it should be a little more encouraged.A good option to this would be making badges,either for a certain number of tokens or every time you finish a loyalty token outfit.
Examples:
-Knight outfit -> A badge with a sword.
-Husky outfit -> A badge with a dog/paw.
-Shaman outfit -> A badge with a paw or a shaman feather.
-King outfit -> A badge with a crown.
spring chasm
Make #event-bot-commands. #event-chat🎉 is too spammy and is unable to be read.
Or set cooldown
forest rover
It’s not like if I were going to ping @mighty granite because he’s online 👀
Now that you’re pinged what do you think about the last feedback?👀
mighty granite
🤔 Wait, I'll answer from oldest unanswered.
forest rover
Ok 👀
mighty granite
Okay, I think Loyalty Token Badges isn't suggested yet, I'll put it into #feedback-devs so devs can see it. Thanks for suggesting! @forest rover
@spring chasm Okay, I'll discuss this with the staffs.
vernal helm
The couple should be revived together after they die
spring chasm
Thanks.
mighty granite
@vernal helm Wait, that makes village OP. Also if the couple are Villager and Werewolf/Solo Killer, Will you be able to revive?
vernal helm
Yes thats the idea you might not want to revive them because of the cost, bringing back the ww/or sk
mighty granite
That would make the game unbalance though.
Should medium be able to revive Villager and Werewolf/Solo couple?
nocturne sierra
that would make the cupid higher risk higher reward
there's a few reasons why the idea wouldn't work
vernal helm
Ok
mighty granite
I could l put that into #feedback-devs, because maybe people don't think like me. 🤔
Can you put more situations how it would works?
vernal helm
I haven't put too much thought into it, I just thought during one of the games what if the couple were revived together and i asked my friends and others playing ig, and some liked it and some said it would make cupid op
runic dragon
it would be too op, if couple needs to be killed twice. not to mention it might be used for teaming between med and couple to help couple win
Couple isn't even the same time as billage
spring hedge
@quaint bramble the team talisman would be good for people who want to be on village or we team. Usually people suicide just because they don't like they're on the wrong team
cunning lotus
I can't buy outfit, plss fix =(((
graceful skiff
Maybe add an option to play with recent players. When you invite him, a message will appear to invited player:
Player X invited you to an another {game mode} game. He was the {role} last game. Do you want to join?
thick bolt
@graceful skiff This will create teaming
woeful mesa
huh no, if the message appears at the end of the game
graceful skiff
And about the bot command "fact", maybe we should able to specify the fact no. of that staff
example: ?arnaud fact 3 will give Arnaud's no. 3 fact
and not random number
runic dragon
@cunning lotus ehy there ^^
You can't just buy it or you bought it and you didn't receive your items?
So sorry for the inconvenience
@graceful skiff that would be quite a mess when you play with lots of people tbh..
graceful skiff
How about my second feedback? Thanks!
runic dragon
I will redirect it to a mod+ ^^
Thank you for sharing😄
solar dew
Please add the option to report someone as Spectator
glacial warren
@solar dew hy hey hey ^^ the possibility to report as spectator has already been suggested ^^
Here is the link to the message in #feedback-devs https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/632179930775420958
Maybe you want to 
Even then, thank you for your suggestion 
solar dew
Okay good. Just spectated, saw a report reason and recognized that I can't report. But if it's already suggested it's fine ^^
heavy oasis
I bought an outfit pack but it didn’t come
glacial warren
@solar dew