And they need to know roles to play differently
#feedback-readonly
runic dragon
lament knoll
@serene lotus would the use of that only be to devide between new gold league and older gold league players?
Also would it be a different name or just a difference in the lobbies they join? 
unkempt junco
I have already said like that too and I was rejected
runic dragon
...
lament knoll
Considering you're playing with pro's then they can simply claim their roles? I don't see the point honestly
And if it has been rejected before there has been a clear reason for that, i can give you a link to the discussion instead of repeating their points all over again ^^
runic dragon
Sure
lament knoll
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/629706232881610782
^ not that long of a discussion tho
But yea i agree with Maje, i don't really see convenience in that and i already think we get way too much communication taken away... i'm not really in favor of reducing it more, especially considering you don't always play with "pro players"
charred kiln
@lament knoll i know u wont get convinced but just wanna tell is with the wrong person i mean like i report someone but dont know if he really is the thrower i dont know his role but he claimed it and the real one didnt
lament knoll
There is a really easy way to avoid such misunderstandings yourself by reporting at the end of the game if it's about gamethrowing ^^
runic dragon
Also, can a player earn more skill as ww or when they win if another ww suicided
Not a lot more than usual, somewhat around add 3 or 4 skill per suicided player
Winning as ww is already hard, if one of their teammates suicide it's even harder so the werewolves team that didn't suicide deserves more skill
serene lotus
@lament knoll Well yes, I would like to see gold league devided into a league with experienced gold league players and new ones (those who just came from silver league).
The problem with the “new ones” is, that they are not used to the roles in Gold. Silver has different roles (e.g. there is a seer, gold only has aura). Having a seer in the game also affects how jailer, priest and gunner kill - they kill with more certainty. People who just came from Silver league are often not aware that you gotta be much more careful in gold league, simply because no information there should be trusted 100%.
And I’ve also seen people leave the lobbies, calling names and cursing when they meet “new”-gold league players. By deviding the current gold league, you get a safer environment for everyone.
And not so sure about names for the after-silver/pre-gold league 🤔 maybe let people suggest a few names and let the community vote on it?
quaint bramble
Platinum is an existing name but not an existing league yet
serene lotus
...and: You usually get placed with people in your league anyway. But when not many people are online, the game mixes them up automatically to create a full lobby. With this mechanism, you still avoid that the more experienced gold league is too empty. You can still mix them up if there aren’t many people playing
quaint bramble
And calling names to new gold players is unacceptable, and very unprofessional
serene lotus
I agree, but it’s common
I mean, people get called noob all the time and often it’s just a joke. but there have been much worse words
runic dragon
A player with 6 or 7k skill would really rage if he's in a team with a new player to gold ranked.
Plus it's not just the pros calling new players noobs, the new players call the pros noob for things they don't understand too
serene lotus
That is VERY true as well, there are two sides of the story
runic dragon
Adding a new league is a legit idea, I think most ranked players would agree, especially the top players
quaint bramble
noob isnt a heavy insult imo but yeah not really the point of this feedback is it 🤔
runic dragon
Not really
But separating new gold players and pro gold players is a good idea
Somewhere around 4k sp would sound reasonable
or 3.5k
serene lotus
Yea I mean noob ain’t problematic for anyone I guess, it’s more about words like stupid motherfvker and stuff like that
I think 2.3-2.5k would even be enough, keep in mind that there are many good players who just don’t have the time to get that high
runic dragon
Also keep in mind that there's players that are carried to 2.3k by said pros...
serene lotus
True as well urgh
runic dragon
Especially in placement games. One pro in the ww team and the village is gone
serene lotus
I mean, there isn’t just the one right solution for this problem. But something somehow needs to change imo, because i feel as if many good players are tired of carrying their team throughout the whole game and also losing because of clearly wrong actions
runic dragon
Do you know that feeling when you're the only ww that claims something in a team of noobs who doesn't even try to claim?
Ik I shouldn't call them noobs for the sake of being nice but me and a lot of players I know from top 200 are sick of them
serene lotus
(That moment when you act fake aura as ww and your teammates don’t act along)
runic dragon
Exactly. The ranked system needs change
Adding a new league doesn't solve all problems but it helps
serene lotus
okay maybe we should move to general with this, but one time i sold junior ww to gain trust when faking aura and then another ww said they would report me because i gamethrow 🤦🏻♀️
~~I complained enough now, thanks for ur attention ~~
quaint bramble
bussing jww generally isnt allowed unless this person agrees with it
runic dragon
Excuse me
serene lotus
(He did) it was to get rid of gunner
next escarp
offline players shouldn’t be able to count towards wins. I was in a game were a player went offline and tied with the marksman who would’ve won otherwise
runic dragon
What if the jr wasn't sold by the said fake aura on purpose, but debunked by med rl info (Rl visited xx player), and said fake aura only said he's evil afterwards to gain trust?
quaint bramble
Online players shouldnt fully ignore offline players though, at some point it should be reasonably clear that they need to be lycnhed
next escarp
they should’ve suicided by that point though, they were offline for 2 nights
quaint bramble
@runic dragon In that case they are already getting themselves killed so it wouldnt be a revealing of a team mate
runic dragon
And if said fake aura was reported for "team killing" by the jr?
I'm getting salty let's stop
Anyway la the suggestion from earlier was to add a new league to ranked
serene lotus
most of the time the agree on getting sold anyway, sometimes regular ww or junior ww even type “sell me” by themselves into ww chat. But yea, thats besides the point rn
runic dragon
Don't get distracted this is the reason we're here
next escarp
how about this:
The further into the game someone goes offline/suicides, the more skill they lose/less xp they get. And the further into the game someone goes offline, then they’ll suicide quicker.
next escarp
yeah
serene lotus
I think it is much more hurtful to the village/the ww team if people suicide during the first two days then when they do late in game
runic dragon
Sometimes it's a lag though. Kinda pointless that they suicide faster, doesn't have really that much of an impact on the game imo
quaint bramble
@next escarp people that are offline for that long already get a reduction of -25% xp
next escarp
🙂 im fine with that
runic dragon
How about that suggestion about adding new league to ranked??
serene lotus
if you need a clearer, more precise statement with arguments I can work on that 
quaint bramble
I hoped Min would come back to continue the topic, but yeah if you add a summery (again) I will post it
runic dragon
I'll type it
runic dragon
sure, maybe dm is better lol
serene lotus
Okay then dm haha
median elbow
Let's play and Online appear to be the same thing. Perhaps a slight change could be the Online status only let's you receive invites when you are Online.
Let's Play is designed to get invites while being offline. Online should be slightly different.
sudden dock
It would be very helpful if there was a status bar in the clan screen, so you know how many players are online if you wanted to skip a wait time.
vernal dune
Hey @median elbow 👀
Since online is the default status, it wouldn't be possible to do this because some players would think you can only invite people when they are online.
As an example on Discord, Online and Idle don't have any difference, apart from telling the others if you are AFK or not. Same thing with WWO, you are telling with Let's play status that you want to play.
In the end, you can just switch to dnd if you do not want to get invited.
Thanks for the suggestion 
@sudden dock heyo!
This is already the case in the clan chat member list, so I don't see why it shouldn't be a thing on the clan member list. I'll add that to #feedback-devs !
Thank you for the suggestion! 
sudden dock
Oh i didn't even know about that😅 thank you
median elbow
@vernal dune I want to receive invites when I am online only
woeful mesa
Hi, just a question about the last feedback, skipping which wait time?😅
vernal dune
For a quest day 👀
white jolt
hey can we please change "win as fool or headhunter" to "win as solo voting role" and "win as solo role" to "win as solo killing role" since fool and headhunter are solo roles too
woeful mesa
then I didn't get the last feedback devs, can you explain it please?😅
quaint bramble
I agee, feedback-devs should be as well explained as possible, but atm it doesnt even mention clan quest at all
@vernal dune
vernal dune
I'll edit it 
woeful mesa
Can the 168h be changed to the number of days? Like I m not sure a lot of people know how much days it represents😅😅😅 or at least put it next to it
runic dragon
Suggestion: Create a new league in ranked games, that divides the current gold league into less and more experienced players. This new league should be something from 2.5k to 3k skill points to above. Then gold league becomes 1.7k to 2.5~3k sp. Or reverse the two
At times when there aren’t enough players from a certain league, the game can still mix these players up to create a full lobby just as it is now.
Why we should separate new gold league players and more experienced gold players:
- They have too much of a competence gap, newer players can't keep up with the "pros". This results in name calling from both sides. Experienced players show rough behavior towards new ones, and newer gold league players may not understand the tactics from more experienced players and act aggressively towards them as well. This also results in false reports at the moment.
- Different roles in silver and the current gold league. People who just come from silver are not used to the gold league dynamic, because they don’t know how to act along in their team. They do not understand the roles in gold league well (e.g. seer in Silver, just aura in Gold)
- A after-silver/pre-gold league creates a safer environment for all sides, since Silvers can get used to the roles and Golds don’t have to carry their team all alone. The few “pro” players dominate the game, which often leads to an automatic win for the team who has more experienced players in it.
Me and @serene lotus worked on this together
woeful mesa
The question would be is there enough players to this...
runic dragon
If there's not enough players just mix em with gold league like what you do when there's not enough players
But pair them with a priority of players from the new league
quaint bramble
I said I would post this so im gonna do that now, thanks for the well-written summary ^^
runic dragon
thxxx
serene lotus
Thanks @quaint bramble
sudden dock
So i had this idea a long time ago, and I really think it would make a great edition to the game. It would promote sending roses, which would promote buying roses, which would promote spending money, watching ads, playing games, or logging in daily(buissness pov)
cobalt quartz
New GameMode idea: Special Events!!
They are like Costum Games but made by the game and you receive prices obviously.They work like this:
-Every WeekEnd (for example) everybody will be adviced an event is started thanks to a notification and then you can check in-game all the info;
-In this choosed period,people pay 1 ticket to join a match in the event and will get some point at the end of the match;
-Like ranked games the player with the most points receive some prices (not necessary gold).
The Points works like ranked games.
During this event you can even win special outfits themed
During Halloween for example you can win with 1000 points a scary outift.
You may receive one free play everyday.
Ticket can be found in chest,in battlepass tiers or can be buyed for 50 gold.
Events are useful for celebrate new update,new seasons,the birthday of the game or thevnew battlepass.
There can be even events with special rules like:"During the event match seers can check a player every 2 nigth"
Those rules don't affect normal games that still exist during the event period
runic dragon
@sudden dock you'll get 5 xp for each rose u sent?
sudden dock
Yes
runic dragon
It would make much rose spam
cobalt quartz
Rose spam isn't cool
sudden dock
what is rose spam
cobalt quartz
Make like you don't receive more than X exp
cobalt quartz
Yep
cobalt quartz
What about my idea?
sudden dock
I'll go read it rn
runic dragon
I mean the people will focus most in send roses than play
Even if u send 50 roses u should win the same amount the XP than if u send 1 rose
quaint bramble
I dont think xp for roses is a good idea.. the rose wheel and rose items are already a strong incentive to send roses.
sudden dock
True
cobalt quartz
You are rigth,but if you only receive 10 xp?
sudden dock
Wait i mean... um... whats this rose wheel👀🤔
cobalt quartz
Lol
sudden dock
im kidding 🤫
quaint bramble
@cobalt quartz The devs are currently not looking for ideas for special game modes or events. They are a pretty common suggestion. Weekly would definately be too much, we alread have so many ways to play. Bp's, daily rewards, clan quests...
And the rose wheel is still considered a secret, you are allowed to mention it but not how to find it.
cobalt quartz
Oh ok
What about an Advent Calendar during Cristhmas time?
It would replace the daily rewards until the end of it;you can get normal prices everyday such as a chest or themed prices like a Santa Claus outift.
runic dragon
I wouldn't like It be replaced tho, I still don't have all the items from daily reward and wouldn't like wait untill Christmas ends
runic dragon
I dont think replace it it's the best option
People wouldn't like wait even more
And even if 2 rewards it's op It's Christmas, a little gift to us
I have the feel they will put Christmas items to buy with roses tho 🙄
sudden dock
@runic dragon never coins anymore just roses😅
rigid bronze
I saw Devs talking about it actually (not roses, just something about Christmas etc) and they're looking more special, not "just" like specific daily rewards
So if you have any ideas...
runic dragon
Yeah they made waste our roses in the rose wheel to then when we have no more roses Left, put items to buy with 150 roses @sudden dock
marketing strategy
median elbow
I want ranked to beire like more sandbox where roles are always randomized it would be a vvery simple system. Out of the 16 players this can be the simplified system. Doing this would benefit the game greatly since it adds originality to the game and changes gameplay constantly. This might also add a better chance of survival for the ww team to win.
1 RRV (or my suggested RWV/RSV/RNV roles)
2 RRV
3 RRV
4 Seer or Detective
5 Aura or Red Lady
6 Jailer
7 MM or Gunner
8 Doctor or TG or BG
9 Medium
10 Priest
11 HH or Fool
12 Alpha
13 Shaman
14 Jr
15 RRW (random werewolf) and no normal ww
16 RSK (solo killer)
I wasn't 100% sure on how to modify the ww team
quaint bramble
Ranked is competitive, so it could be considered unfair if you have more variations in it, since not all variations will be equally balanced. esp random solo killers are a big influence on that.
median elbow
Or just add a chaos game mode. But I do think ranked should be altered randomly.
quaint bramble
I think I just gave a counter argument to that.
sudden dock
Bleep out "kys". Its very, very inappropriate and negative for the game. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been bleeped out
forest rover
I would change alpha and put there wolf seer but it’s a cool idea.I like it.
rigid bronze
I agree with your first feedback, but the second one isn't really useful since the game's time is linked to your phone's time 🤔
sudden dock
My phones time doesn't show up in military
rigid bronze
In military ?
sudden dock
Military time. It doesn't stop at 12, it goes 13 14 15 16 and so on
rigid bronze
Ohhh military like that okay okay
sudden dock
Ye
rigid bronze
Imma add it then 👍
sudden dock
Thank you!
median elbow
Just don't title it miltary title it 24h
It does this already I'm just as blind as you
quaint bramble
As said before, it is linked to your phone settings, so it should display whichever you already use...
orchid cloud
Creating a badge for someone reaching the max of 10 or 20 (idk) succes on wwo. Because already, nobody is looking on success. If someone has a lot of "max" success, it think he can obtain a badge
Same for talismans :), but all the tali max is needed
woeful mesa
The success are already a reward, adding another one on top of it doesn t really make sense in my opinion🤔
uncut tusk
I agree with jojolapin here. Plus, badges are given for people who bring a positive value to the game (or community) 😉
median elbow
Or adding a nitro booster badge
uncut tusk
Thing is... You already have a specific role for that on Discord 😅
median elbow
Yeah but I mean in game
uncut tusk
I know what you meant, but I really don't see the point in adding a badge in the game for that 😉 You already have a cool Discord role! 😄
median elbow
Discord role < In game item
novel fable
can this be fixed? 🙈
glacial warren
@novel fable hey ^^ that's basically more a bug and happens since a while now. They always tried to fix it, but it still does not work ^^' sorry....
novel fable
oh ic sry
warm swan
In this category, I'd recommend to put all the other badges there even if they're not unlocked and adding how to get that badge, so you can see how it would look like in your avatar or just to see how to get them because in my case, I sometimes forget how to get the badges
median elbow
I disagree since most players don't have a badge
warm swan
Well, maybe players don't know about badges (I doubt that) so maybe it's a boost to be more active in the game or discord
median elbow
Unicorn doesn't even have a badge and he's pretty active in the community/discord if you ask me
peak knot
this
warm swan
It's in general, I'm not talking about specific players tho
quaint bramble
I can agree that the social media badges would look good there, but the others, not so much
median elbow
@peak knot I disagree with this. Rrv can be unfair and fair at the same time.
Few examples: 4 auras 3 mayors, 3 red lady's, 3 normal villagers, 3 pacis, 3 grannies, 3 docs/bg/tg
peak knot
So you're saying rv's in general need renewal
Make them more consistent
And I agree with that
peak knot
I am so happy more people asking for skill separation in ranked ^_^ keep up the awareness!
Both new players and experienced players are suffering from the current system
Also, about the current role division in ranked. Here is the current state of my research (only experienced players in game):
Hh arso games 10/10 played
Village wins: 10/10 (100% winrate)
Ww wins: 0/10 (0% winrate)
Solo wins: 0/10 (0% winrate)
Sk fool games 1/10 played
Solo wins: 1/10 (>10% winrate, fool win)
runic dragon
Say 0/10 for ww and solo is kinda exaggerated
peak knot
Those are official results
facts are not exaggerated
fool games seem to be more promising
As expected, by the way
Continuing the reference games soon
runic dragon
Med should not be able to use the reviving ability on first night
I think u know why
runic dragon
He can
charred kiln
No it wont work
charred kiln
U can click but it wont work trust me ive seen it
peak knot
trust aap
charred kiln
U keep
charred kiln
Its the same interaction as first but now u can click on it and “use” it idk y they changed it
peak knot
Bc it s kinda weird
charred kiln
Make the ability to show your country on your profile
runic dragon
@charred kiln sounds like a nice and simple addition ^^
I will post this
charred kiln
Thank you!
median elbow
@peak knot when it's fool sk/arso games and I am the sk/arso I have high hopes I will actually win as the solo killer
charred kiln
Thats not an argument lol
median elbow
But those statistics and results are very accurate even with 10 games being a small amount
charred kiln
So u say they are good reasons
median elbow
Yes the posted statistics are very good and highly accurate
runic dragon
@peak knot I don't think there's an oficial results for that, it varies depending of the WW and Village team, if you're quiet as Werewolf ofc it will be always like that
Anyway if wanna keep talking about that let's move to #wov-chat
charred kiln
Okay nice so u agree with youp
lapis stag
I think there should be more guardians
Because essentially there's only a few, there's thousands of players, and it takes ten reports before review probably because there's not enough guardians to review them all
runic dragon
@lapis stag that's why guardians applications were opened😄
Choosing new guardians isn't an easy job and takes time tho
lapis stag
Makes sense, just a suggestion.
runic dragon
Thank you for suggesting 😄
runic dragon
I think there should be rewards for people who find bugs and report them. Maybe like a hat or badge or something The reason I think this is because some people that may know a bug that can be used as an advantage would rather keep it to themselves because they get nothing out of reporting it.
graceful skiff
Maybe change the zombie desc? Currently it says that you can only convert players in the village team. How about cursed unturned? Solo killers? If I'm correct, zombies can convert solo killers.
quaint bramble
Zombies cannot convert solo killers, and cursed unturned IS a villager.. @graceful skiff
@runic dragon There is already a bug sniffer badge that can be rewarded if you would find a really game breaking bug. We dont really want to give everyone who reports an item though, that wold be too messy and encourage people to falsely report or jst copypaste older bugs, and that causes us loads of extra work..
If you do abuse a bug to your advantage, sooner or later you will be caught using it, and you risk getting banned, The more you know...
runic dragon
Whats an example of really game breaking i personally know a bug that hasn't been reported yet and I'm sure not many people know about and can be used for an advantage in game which can be bad if others find it @quaint bramble
quaint bramble
I have seen a few in my time here, such as a bomber who could explode people every night 🤔
Or infinite nightmare ability..
If you rather dont put it in public, you can also direct message a staff member about it.
runic dragon
Who's the staff
quaint bramble
I am the highest one online atm, a mini mod 👀
runic dragon
🤔
heady zealot
Dark theme
sonic loom
I have an idea for a new role. Its called Blind Man. Its basically you cant see the players avatar or number, but you can see the chat.. During the night if the players next to you get attacked, you see how heavy their footsteps are (werewolves heavy stepped, serial killer light stepped, ect..) The next night their number gets revealed. I feel like this is well balanced and a good idea.
quaint bramble
@sonic loom you can post it in #role-ideas-readonly if you want feedback and improvement for it ^^
rough badge
Hi hi! I just want to feedback.. that the default mouth doesnt look good. i'm always finding mask n stuff to cover it lol.
and we should have more eyepatch /mask options 
quaint bramble
@rough badge Mouths are a very new feature, we will see some improvement on that soon enough ^^
And there are many masks, but esp clan outfits dont have them often.
Ifyou have any specific ideas about the masks or eyepatches, you can post reference images in #avatar-ideas
sand dome
When sheriff is looking at someone it should only give info at the end of the night when ww/solo attacks
And it shouldn't be consumed when the person I'm looking at dies before the end of the night👀
(since that's not practical info unless I'm trying to find marksman/jailer?)
quaint bramble
I dont know, just like spirit seer, the sheriff finds killers
sand dome
Hmm...yeah, it makes sense, but I don't wanna accidentally have my info for that night consumed by one of them ..
I suppose I could just not press anyone until the end of the night
quaint bramble
Yeah thats a good tactic, even for seers tbh
sonic loom
I feel like seer is way over powered. Maybe make it so they can reveal a role every other night to balance it out
vivid blaze
Hello 👋 u see this? Another example. U guys better work on a possible solution to this since all of my suggestions have been ignored.
This genius randomly shoots twice 👏👏
Please seriously consider my suggestion of making a random kill report channel
Players just by knowing that there is a report channel for random killing, half wouldn't even dare to random shoot
quaint bramble
Thats a new one 🤔 After your last visit, I passed the suggestion on to Lisa, to clarify the rules about random shooting.
We used to have an #ingame-reports-archieved channel and it has been discontinued for a reason; the guardians dont have time to keep up with a channel here, and the ingame system is in place for this sort of thing. Random killing is pretty easy to verify and already has its own report reason which should show people that it isnt allowed.
A pretty big chunk of players also simply doesnt have Discord and wouldnt be able to report here nor be threatened by it.
vivid blaze
What's the point of keeping guardians if they can't keep up with a single reason channel and bans are done automatically by 10 reports🤦♂️ this random kill channel will only be for one reason report thus significantly less reports than the older ingame-reports
Again, if all don't have discord u wanna keep it worse the way it is? Something is better than nothing
quaint bramble
Bans are not done automatically by 10 reports, unless they were auto warnings (the red messages in chat)
vivid blaze
Having a channel will 'reduce' it
quaint bramble
10+ reports means they are checked with the highest priority and that a ban is likely to follow if there are multiple valid reports. Guardians also have to verify auto warnings and bans, and also get probably 50+ dms a day for ban appeal requests.
vivid blaze
And since you're saying that many don't have discord, it's actually a positive thing for u guys as you'll have less reports to deal with then
It isn't that much of a hassle like you're exaggerating it to be
quaint bramble
The ingame-reports channel isnt in use anymore, i wasnt around when it was, so I dont know the full reasons why it closed, besides what is written there. Seems to me like they dont want that kind of system anymore though.
Even if we classify it as specifically for random killing, it would 100% still get filled up by all other kinds of reports and complains and ban appeals, just the same thing as before
Random killing is probably one of the most commonly used report reasons, since most people will agree that shooting a seer twice is bad. So for this one the ingame system is already quite effective.
vivid blaze
Btw about what u said about the automatic report thing is totally confusing and different coz once a guardian told me that the system automatically bans u after 10 reports and stuff. But anyways doesnt matter to me whatever it is
Shooting a seer twice isn't random killing. Its gamethrowing
Thus, the channel won't be filled up with junk
Plz try to understand that this channel will only be for random killing and is very different than what u think of the old ingame reports
It'll be like 1/8th the content of the old one
And if anyone posts anything non related there u can just warn them not to
quaint bramble
Best I can do for you is asking a guardian if they think this is useful for them.
They can decide to discuss it amongst themselves or not, I will link them to this conversation.
vivid blaze
Well anyways aside from all the arguments, it doesn't really matter how hard things might get by implementing this solution. I know that there might be already a lot of work for the guardians but that doesn't mean we can ignore major problems. Sometimes necessity must be considered over comfort.
quaint bramble
If they would see it as more trouble than functionality there isnt much else to consider about it
vivid blaze
It will be slightly more hard work yes, but u cannot argue that it won't help solve the issue. Besides, everything comes at a cost.
To bring something good, it will always have a cost and u must consider the necessity over the cost
quaint bramble
If it is more work I think it completely defeats the purpose, since it already is reports they will be looking at, one way or another... But my opinion no longer matters here. I will pass it on to them and that should be the end of this for now. I will be going to sleep very soon..
vivid blaze
If u still believe that the game reporting system is effective, you're wasting your time too much. I'm here for a reason.
And again, you gotta change the perspective about thinking that 'more work is pointless'. There's nothing in the world that can be achieved without work, so please dont run away from the point. To gain something, work will always be needed.
Cool. Hope they can see this solution optimistically or at the least come up with another solution that can fix the issue. Good night 👋❤
lunar salmon
Can we PLEASE get rid of the emojis? It's used sooooo much for cheating. And I was just in a game where someone said "that's what the emotes are for." He literally believes that it's for passing on information. And only I reported him and nothing is going to happen and people are going to keep doing it. At the very minimum can there be a disclaimer on the emoji buttons that says like "do not use emojis to convey information. They're for fun only" or something? People need to understand that that's cheating.
runic dragon
Emotes are used to express feelings, emoji code is reportable and lots of people paid money for that. Can’t just delete the emoji system because of one slight flaw
magic crystal
They just need to disable emotes at night
lunar salmon
I agree with no emojis at night
They shouldn't be able to use them at night because that's when the cheating happens
magic crystal
Right. I can't think of any way of emoji cheating during the day.
runic dragon
There’s loads of situations where people would want to use an emoji at night for non-cheating purposes.
There’s not a lot of people who knows emoji code these days
“Emote if you’re (role)” for muted players.
magic crystal
Yea i guess
lunar salmon
I see people do the "if they're evil I'll send an emoji" CONSTANTLY
Literally at least once per day
Usually more
runic dragon
Pretty pointless that emojis should be disabled at night. Should just report them
runic dragon
I don’t have that problem at all. Just report those players
lunar salmon
And every time I tell them that's cheating, they say that it's not and then nothing happens
runic dragon
There’s a emote report category for a reason
lunar salmon
I think disabling them at night is very fair and a good solution. I do report them, but I don't have a lot of faith in the reporting system.
sand dome
I think disabling emotes at night is too unfair for people that don't use it to cheat
If you do that then they would just go "send me a rose if they're bad" and then when they remove that, maybe they'll just say "go off if they're bad..." ehhhh yada yada I dont think it's such a good idea. They can always work around it.
lunar salmon
But it's so easy with emotes. At least make it harder by disabling them at night
What's so great about using them at night anyway?
lament knoll
@lunar salmon there will be added a feature soon where you get a message if a player you reported got banned so maybe you'll find your faith in it again ;)
I agree with the others honestly, not a fan of collective punishments because of few people doing something.
Its common sense sending emotes in the nighttime to deliver information is not allowed as it was the same way with roses and giving roses at night was even changed because of that so only the receiver sees it and it's also common sense in between most players that it'll cause in punishment.
I don't think you should punish everyone for a few people honestly, i personally only use emotes at night and never at day as there is happening much more at night you can express your feelings towards as it does at day
You shouldn't take away the fun from everyone just because some players can't use common sense. Many people are going the "that's not forbidden" road because they don't want to admit their faults in public but if they do it repeatedly they will get punished.
If they don't learn out of punishment we can't do more.
sage knoll
I don’t know if anyone brought this up before. But you know those times when you are a seer (be it werewolf seer or village seer) and you checked someone but they suicide thus you ended up with no info. Especially if you are village seer, when you try to explain you checked someone who suicide people usually don’t believe. Is there a way to counter it? Like maybe let the seers check someone again if the person they checked suicided?
runic dragon
@sage knoll uhm that would be extremely op in my opinion, and it also happens when you check a playet and they die that night...
fierce shale
There should be an option to turn the page flip sound effect without turn all sound fx off
I usually wear headphones and it's pretty loud compared to my music 
winged shard
Do we have a channel for custom games here?
glacial warren
@winged shard no we don't, but you could talk about the game in #wov-chat. In the channel you can share your games and talk about other game related things ^^
@fierce shale Heya 
As far as I know, it already has been suggested to add the option to manually make the in game sound louder and also lower ^^' I think if that's what you suggest, I would like to repost it.
👀
Pls check if that's what you mean:
I would suggest the option to lower the game sounds manually, because if I listen to music, the game sounds are extremely loud. It would be cool if I could change every sound.
Example: my music is on 10
I go to the settings and change the chat sound to 3, the background music to 8 etc.
sick mesa
Hey, I just won as Cupid and saw that we get the normal 50 xp per Cupid win, the thing is, it's hard to win as Cupid because it's only you + 2 versus the entire game, going to the point, why not giving a bit more xp for cupid win, I think he really deserves it
fierce shale
Why yes of course
@glacial warren
That's actually better than I could have worded it
night path
glacial warren
@fierce shale okay! Then I will post it ^^ thank you for your suggestion 
sick mesa
@night path yeah, I think that would be fair, I actually didn't say the xp it should be cuz I'm not really sure if it was going to be fair but 80 is really good imo
serene lotus
I really love the new cap. However, most of the female hair and also lots of male hair are too big for it. I tried different hair piece from battlepass/special offers/quests, but the hat never really suits well unless you use black hair.
No idea if this is possible,but it would be great if there was some sort of adaptation of the hat.
lament knoll
@serene lotus pretty sure the har is formed around the shape of the hat, that's what's the usual guide line if you only do a hat
Also about designing choices, they were made by the designer that way for a reason, i don't see that big of an issue in that anyways
Doesn't look too bad and if you make it bigger it'll be too big for other hairstyles or if you want to go for a bald look with the hat, so that won't get changed unfortunately ^^
serene lotus
Okay, thank you anyway for your response @lament knoll
lament knoll
It's my pleasure!
sand dome
If fool is the only one alive, it should end in a tie since no villagers are left.
mellow owl
sand dome
Seems like more of a question, but no😃
is that perhaps your feedback, sending gold to others?
lament knoll
@sand dome basically the fool is a villager but not part of the villager's team👀
This, whatsoever has already been suggested before, but it's a very minor and almost never happening case and ties are usually only there if there is no player standing alive or if no action happens at all for 2-3 days straight
Thanks for your suggestion tho!
serene lotus
I think that Sheriff might be an interesting role to have as RRV in ranked games
sand dome
We should be able to exchange rose for all things into individual roses. Such as one rose for all = 3 individual roses.
glacial warren
@serene lotus heyo ^^' I'm sorry for this late response. Basically yes, but the kinda new roles still have bugs and as long as they happen, they can't get out of sandbox
@sand dome I think this has been suggested, but why should you do it, since you get less roses?
forest rover
Probably because you just want to send roses to a exact player.I would prefer to send 3 roses to my friend that 1 rose from everyone that is playing 👀
glacial warren
But buying the roses costs less than changing a 250 gold rose to 3 roses which are only 75 gold
woeful mesa
Hi, I think there shouldn t be both jww and berzerk ww in the same game. These are 2 roles who can kill seer, with berzerk killing for sure even if he is alive... in my opinion it s a bit too overpowered, and it would be more balanced if only one of these 2 roles appear in each game
runic dragon
Ehy @woeful mesa ^^
This is sandbox, right?
runic dragon
Yeah ^^ I was thinking about customs^^
Anyway, don't you think it is balanced by the presence of a regular werewolf?🙂
woeful mesa
Tbh nope, like let's take the quick game set up: regular, shaman, alpha and seer. To begin with, the only advantage alpha has is 2 votes, pretty useless while killing by using his power. The only ones that can really help are shaman by fooling village and seer by checking. Now if we go back to sandbox, when there are both berzerk and jww in game, most of the time (not taking into account jww not tagging and berzerk not using his power before dying) there is at least seer death in the first days, with a potential bonus of protector dying too. so here there are 3 roles that are really useful, with 2 of them being killing role. Ofc jww means losing a ww to use his power, but I'm sure that after med revived seer, ww can just sacrifice jww to get killed definitively the seer, and village can't really protect against this. If there is alpha or nightmare to replace one of the 2 killing roles, I think it would be more fair. I already know that it's hard to win with ww, but that's the basis of the game and with 2 killing power for the ww, it gives them way more chance to win.
sand dome
@glacial warren To answrr your question, I have a bunch of rose-for-alls that i got from lootboxes/bp/daily rewards that I don't use😃
runic dragon
Mmhh I partially agree, let's not forget that in a quick game we have a cursed villager while in sandbox there is not!
The price to pay for it is having two "strong" wws in a game, isn't it fair?
And, as you said, winning as ww is really tough already..
glacial warren
But as I said in the end is more useful to use them. Especially because you get +16 sent roses. Also the price of the roses is a huge difference
woeful mesa
Well nightmare ww with its power can balance it I think, but if berzerk and jww are both in game I think it kinda brokes the balance... And in quick games there are 2 protectors, while in sandbox it is usually 1, with 2 the max thanks to rrv... And the seer is clearly one of the most important role, so if we let too much opportunities to ww to kill seer... It kinda breaks village's power (yes it's exagerating there are other checking roles and other nice powers, but that's for highlighting seer's importance)
runic dragon
Ok I can see your points better now ^^
I'm still not totally sure but I will post it and see what people think about this!
Thanks for the suggestion
woeful mesa
you're welcome, I know that it's hard to compare to quick games because so much things are different, but at least we will be able to see what people think indeed, thanks for posting^^
runic dragon
Yw ^^ yeah I agree that's hard to compare these two mods
woeful mesa
but had to do it if I wanted some arguments xd
sharp lodge
not sure where else to put this, there was a player in my last game who somehow knew identites of all werewolves on only second day. he turned out to be corr, so was likely a hacker
or cheated somehow, idk. i reported him but idk if anyone else in the game has except the ww
quaint bramble
@sharp lodge Heya, they were probably friends with a ww or using double accounts, Please report this person in-game for gamethrowing!
woeful mesa
Hi, the word "killers" should be changed into something like solo roles, because there aren't always killers in game
forest rover
But zombies and sect leader are explained just a few phrases below
runic dragon
Mmhh, but the solo roles are all killers because they kill their victims ahah😄
woeful mesa
"villagers: kill all werewolf and killers"
if zombie in game no killers
or then put zombies and sect under killer's description👀
runic dragon
Oh yeah, so that statement should be changed then ^^
woeful mesa
same for werewolves, fool and hh are forgotten in the description, they are neither villagers or killers
runic dragon
Yeah, agreed.
Could I ask you to make a quick recap of what should be changed in your opinion?
woeful mesa
aye I'm lazy😢
Sure^^
forest rover
As far as Ik,werewolves does not need to kill all the village,as the text says.Not sure if @woeful mesa meant that too.
woeful mesa
in FAQ,win conditions, changes that should be made:
Villagers: changing the killers by including the zombies and sect team
Werewolves: including the voting roles in the to be killed list, and maybe precising that they win if solo dead and their number equal the village's of players alive
Bonus: for lovers' win condition, it is written that if they are both of the same team they can also win with their original team, it should be added that if they can then they must win as couple before winning with their original team
haha yeah @forest rover, I thought about it while writing the changes that need to be done, but thanks for telling it^^
runic dragon
@woeful mesa 🤗 that's a big thanks from me!
Good job
woeful mesa
you' re welcome^^
forest rover
You could also add that as sect leader you cannot sect killers neither fool @woeful mesa 👀
woeful mesa
hmm I think the not being able to sect fool was a bug👀
or else it's just a tie everytime lol
uncut tusk
It's not a bug 😉
woeful mesa
but indeed it can be added, you can ping directly Pumpkin since he is the one that can do the change in the message in #feedback-devs ^^
forest rover
It should be changed tho
woeful mesa
And another thing that I just learn because there are no informations about such a change having been done in the game... thanks for telling me @uncut tusk ^^
uncut tusk
You're welcome ^^
forest rover
Hey @runic dragon could you add to jojolapin’s feedback that in zombie/sect leader it should be added that sect leader is not able to sect fool neither killers?And if you add that zombies can do it it would be even nicer
runic dragon
Mh, I don't think that regards "How to win" tho🤔
quaint bramble
I dont think that should be in feedback devs, its something the devs are hopefully already reverting sice it doesnt rlly work..
forest rover
Well it says that zombies can just bite villagers but neither hh neither fool neither killers are village and they can still win with zombies tho.Just to avoid confusion imo. @runic dragon
woeful mesa
then here is a feedback: it's unfair that fool can't be sected. There are multiple reason:
First, killers role can kill fool, while sect can't, so it means there are no chance to win for sect if fool is alive, it's either fool's win or tie
2nd, the hh can be sected but not the fool, while they are both voting roles. Okay hh can be villager if his target dies, but it's very unfair since only one of them can be sected
3rd: why would zombie be able to bite fool, which basically means transforming a villager in zombie, while sect can't sect this "villager" (yes it's not a villager but for zombies it is)
runic dragon
@forest rover now hh and fool cannot be bitten/sected 🙃
forest rover
Imo sect leader should be able to sect fool and solo killers.I don’t understand why it was changed 👀
forest rover
Head hunter can be sected 👀
runic dragon
Hh can be sected when their target is dead¿
woeful mesa
the first one was the most important one anyway
runic dragon
@woeful mesa you're a feedback machine tonigh ehe
forest rover
I would use talismans to show you if it’s needed but I’m lazy right now 😬
woeful mesa
well I already feedbacked about the fool thing when it first happened but I was told it was a bug so I gave up lol
runic dragon
Let me check
woeful mesa
well in fact the answer I got was the devs are aware, but I'm pretty sure that I checked back one time and I saw messages it being a bug...
vivid blaze
Today also a gunner randomly shot twice and guess what he said? "Its not random coz it wasnt a ww. And it's not written in the rules" 👏👏
Hope this justifies to you that a big percentage of the problem is because of the unclarified rule.
Now hopefully you'll think about finally changing it if you haven't planned already
forest rover
Hey @runic dragon here you have the evidence 👀
runic dragon
Please guys don't comment here
forest rover
However with fool neither solo killers this happens.So I would like to suggest that:
Option 1:Make sect able to sect again fool either solo killers.
Option 2: Make zombies not able to bite fool neither solo killers.
glacial warren
@vivid blaze hey ^^ I think we already talked about it, and as far as I know they currently work on it, but that will take some time. Thank you for your concerns ^^
forest rover
I like option 1 more too but I just want that they have the same characteristics because they’re both solo converting roles @woeful mesa.
woeful mesa
The annoying thing about fool and sect, is that compared to other solo roles, not being able to get rid of fool to win is making it very unfair
runic dragon
Ok I am informed now ahah:
Hh can be sected/bitten while fool cannot
woeful mesa
So here comes back my 2nd argument🌝
runic dragon
Solo killers cannot be sected nor bitten😃
woeful mesa
But in a normal game, there aren t sl+ another solo killer
And voting roles aren t solo killers
runic dragon
Yeah right
forest rover
Solo killers can be bitten @runic dragon
runic dragon
No more😄
forest rover
Do you need an evidence?Unless it got changed in 0.39 version
runic dragon
It got recently changed as far as I know
forest rover
In that case remove zombie and sect leader for solo killer place because they just cannot win in a solo killer game right now 👀
woeful mesa
usually werewolves don't kill fool because he can help them
so basically the only ones that can kill fool are village's killer like gunner and jailer. If they are dead, or if they used all their bullets, it means sect can't win even though all ww are dead
forest rover
Hey @runic dragon check this 👀
runic dragon
Oh :o
Tbh I'm a bit confused I must admit guys
Sorry if I'm taking some time to ho through all this😅
forest rover
I’m on 0.38.02 but it is being always like this before.Unless it is going to change in the 0.39 version,idk who told you that this didn’t happen.
runic dragon
Uh ok, well that's a serious argument then, lots of things that could be added
woeful mesa
If there is a need to write a resume about the fool thing, tell me quickly please, have to take a shower and sleep xd
forest rover
Sect leader and zombies are roles that has practically everything in common (they’re converting roles,they replace the solo killer) but zombie is too much op if we compare him with sect leader,so my feedback to make sect leader and zombies a little bit more similar is:
Option 1:Make sect able to sect again fool either solo killers.
Option 2: Make zombies not able to bite fool neither solo killers.
This is the resume @woeful mesa 👀
woeful mesa
Well there can be way more arguments👀
forest rover
Feel free to copy the message and add it,I need to sleep @woeful mesa
woeful mesa
me too lmao, rip this feedback for now my original one contains some arguments too btw
sacred sable
Can confirm fool can be sected/bitten in 0.39.1, as I use this version >>""
Zombie/Sect Leader IS the solo kill role so... why would they be able to turn/convert another solo kill role?
runic dragon
@forest rover i don't like it for a simple fact:
The one way zombs has to kill it's lynching
And SL members still conserved theyr hability, which is easier to kill a Fool.
If both were not able to bite fool, SL has the advantage cuz his member can Shoot fool, and zombies can't cuz they lose their ability once becomes zombie
runic dragon
He meant about be able to convert Bb, SK and those solo roles
sand dome
you're able to covert sk and bb?
runic dragon
As Zombie yeah, idk about Sl
sand dome
I see....
quaint bramble
It was a bug that has since been fixed, solo killers arent supposed to be sected or zombied 😅
also this particular bug fix is what made fool unsectable
lone scaffold
Hey my feedback to banned ppl. Well this guy number 5 has obviously a bad name and tell us here that he have more accs with names like this and if one get banned, he take another since the day he get the others back.
I dont understand why things like this are possible, cant you enable bad words for usernames? Or maybe just ban ppl like him forever?
median elbow
In theory "boosting" in ranked is possible with 16 players/alts. A players would need to play on a server other than English to have a higher chance of spawning in the same game. To fix this idea of potential teaming an IP tracker should be added to ww online this would track everyone's IP, and if 2 IPs match in the same lobby then both players would be kicked from the lobby. Or maybe even temp ban/auto reported
Kicking 2 players with matching ips would be the easy fix and would avoid getting someone potentially false ban
runic dragon
I think not allowing players from the same IP to be in the same lobby is fine.
median elbow
Ofc the use of VPNs is the easy bypass
high fable
Seems fine, but sometimes... bad...
glacial warren
@lone scaffold hey ^^ if you have names like this in game, you can report them in game for it. In best case you can include a translation, if it was in another language.
Guardians have access to the game chat then and can change the name. After they change it, the user can't change it for a specific time ^^ also check #ingame-reports-archieved
Even if they get banned, you won't find the other accounts, if nobody reports them 👀
IP ban is not allowed btw
median elbow
I didn't say IP ban
high fable
I mean, I sometimes play with my sister in Ranked too. But we don't trade information of course, none of us wanted to lose skills and we play normally. 👀
runic dragon
You’re suggesting something similar to an IP ban
median elbow
I said IP tracking. If 2 players match matching IP just kick them from the lobby
runic dragon
That’s not reasonable
high fable
Yeah, and in my case, it would be damn annoying
runic dragon
I mean sometimes me and my friends irl play together too, and we’re sitting next to each other
median elbow
It seems reasonable as it helps prevent 2 players from teaming
high fable
No, it doesn't. It would make players like us annoyed as fuck.
runic dragon
You can’t just ban playing from same IP simply because one or two players team
high fable
And the system may sometimes be bugged and annoy a lot of people as hell too
runic dragon
You can’t fix it. As u said VPN is the easy bypass, but it would cause many players inconvenience
median elbow
I never said ban just not in the lobby
runic dragon
maybe even temp ban/auto reported
rigid bronze
Although, I'm not sure messing with the IP on iOS devices is legal
high fable
I mean in crowded cities, houses are next to houses and people in this house cannot play with people in the next house??
median elbow
Auto report would be the best case scenario
runic dragon
Why’d you report friends playing together?
high fable
Don't ruin the fun just because of several bad members
runic dragon
Lots of false reporting and just gives guardians more things to do, it’s not reasonable
runic dragon
See one person use emoji to cheat and you ban all emojis
high fable
Seeing gunners random shooting and suggest to make gunner unable to shoot
runic dragon
See one person suicide and ban the game?
high fable
No, simply destroy the suicide button lol
median elbow
Not "several" bad members. The majority of bad members
runic dragon
You’re serious? How often do you see teaming in ranked?
lone scaffold
Okay thx yeah i banned ig but what he write was like "wow why this is possibl"
lament knoll
Would ya mind keeping the conversation down to constructive arguments and not useless spamming of the same argument in different versions? Its enough providing an argument once
median elbow
sandbox too
runic dragon
Besides in gold ranked to do this, you’d need to drill ranked on several accounts until you reach gold ranked, and then repeatedly drill again to get back to gold ranked for several accounts
median elbow
Okay revamped suggestion:
In theory "boosting" in ranked is possible with 16 players/alts. A players would need to play on a server other than English to have a higher chance of spawning in the same game. To fix this idea of potential teaming an IP tracker should be added to ww online this would track everyone's IP, and if 2 IPs match in the same lobby then both players would be warned and auto-reported
The guardians can then review the games logs and see if real teaming took place
high fable
And it's not going to help much tbh.
2 friends sitting far away from each other can still team and destroy the game. Moreover, I don't like the idea of destroying people's fun just to make a system which has such few benefits.
runic dragon
please, it’s not that good of a suggestion, we already gave you tons of reasons why
high fable
In most cases, teaming happens for people sitting far away from each other, even miles or thousand miles.
runic dragon
please just stop.
median elbow
Guardians can read the game logs and check if true teaming has occurred. It's simple.
high fable
What you're suggesting is just going to reduce using alt very little.
runic dragon
Just report teaming in the existing mechanics
median elbow
Reducing alts is a good then
high fable
I don't think reducing using alts a little is worth making volunteers' job heavier
Guardians are volunteers.
What do you want more from a volunteer who spends their time keeping the game good? To make their job heavier, and then start saying I love you for what you've done for us or something?
median elbow
It just gives them better evidence of potential teaming
Same Ip? Yes! Sharing info? Yes! They must be teaming
runic dragon
There are very simple ways to solve the problem you’re addressing.
REPORT IN EXISTING MECHANICS!
high fable
Moreover, teaming is often obvious and people really hate that so they are going to report them in-game.
runic dragon
If they’re really teamers let their lobby report them. You don’t want to ban friends playing together just because some players team.
high fable
And listen to what Hyde said, it's not possible! @median elbow
median elbow
Hyde isn;t in the chat?
high fable
runic dragon
Hyde replied a while ago already that IP ban is not possible
median elbow
He said IP ban is not allowed not that it's not possible
runic dragon
Not allowed so it won’t be used, so it’s impossible
high fable
Not allowed is similar to not possible
runic dragon
How hard is it to understand it?
high fable
🤨
median elbow
It's a fair idea regardless. Phillip can look into an idea like this
runic dragon
We just told you tons of reason why this is a bad idea
and it’s a fair idea regardless?
median elbow
Yes because it prevents teaming instead of allows it to continue
runic dragon
This is literally the only benefit of your idea
median elbow
prevents doesn't mean stop it all together
high fable
@runic dragon RGTube is a person who holds their opinions very strongly. No matter how we try to convince him, he keeps his opinions.
runic dragon
We have told you at least five reasons why it’s a bad idea
I can tell. I’m getting pissed
median elbow
that is accurate about me yes
high fable
So all we can actually do is to tell him to contact philipp.
runic dragon
Okay just go contact Philipp if this is a “fair idea”
austere relic
glacial warren
IP ban is not possible due to Ios 👀
You can of course keep your opinion, and I understand your concerns, but similar things has been suggested and we're declined as far as I know :/
I don't think it is a bad idea and I know exactly, that the teaming/gamethrowing problems are annoying, since I'm a player too 
signal raft
Hi. There's something in Turkish that I think is a mistake or that it's done unintentionally. Clan mean "Klan" in Turkish language But when we write "Klan", game perceives it as blasphemy and censors it.
valid vine
its true 🙄
charred kiln
If u have a function as villager in the night the animation when u click on ur skin doesnt work😭 it must work!
runic dragon
Could there be a thing when kicking people where the co-leader/leader that wants to kick the person has to fill out a box saying something like “I am sorry, but we have decided to kick you from the clan”, or something saying goodbye. I think it would be better than just kicking and not knowing why you got kicked...
glacial warren
@signal raft hey ^^ the censor system does not make a difference between the language so if "Klan" is an insult in another language, then it's censored in every language. I don't know in which language it is, but it's nothing against the community ^^'
@charred kiln xD why would you need it?
woeful mesa
Hi, I heard that in the 0.39.1 fool is sectable, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but if it isn't the case would it be interesting that I make a feedback about why fool should be sectable? yup continuation of yesterday's discution
glacial warren
@runic dragon Heya ^^ this has already been suggested before and was posted by me in #feedback-devs on 14. August ^^
Sadly I can't link the message, because discord don't want xD but the message was:
"When you kick someone you should be able to send a reason with it, because when you kick someone most times people get angry because they don’t know the reason
We kicked two people and they joined back in and one of them was still in our server and they got really angry. Maybe also make it that you can set a time like one hour to a couple days that they can’t join back in
by: Baz and Jin"
Thank you for your feedback anyways
charred kiln
@glacial warren its an awesome animation!
floral quail
Okay
Make changes to rank about gold. Sks and arso are really having a hard time to win. So if it losses and stay until the end of the game, he can get back his coins.
forest rover
Probably suggested not sure tho
A little buff to werewolves team.Make wolf seer able to check even if he’s the last werewolf.However,if wolf seer wants to kill,he will need to resign first.
Force the werewolf seer to resign is a bit cruel tho
peak knot
Role adjustment suggestion:
I want to add some dynamics to the 'lovers' team, because at this point there is a huge variety of how to play as lover, but it lacks ways to be countered. Cupid has a fairly high winrate in my custom games.
What about adjusting spirit seer? When a player is in love, it will show a pink drop. If the lovers form a threat in end game, the village could do something against it
forest rover
Also make the same with det 👀
peak knot
You could adjust any checking role to improve lovers' gameplay! ^
floral quail
@charred kiln well you might say that, but I'm broke
I don't even get the free wheel (most likely because I used it 50+ times on double xp for clan quest)
charred kiln
Then just remove the 5 gold cost
Its made to “stop” people leaving but nobodoy stops leaving cuz of 5 gold
forest rover
15 is a bit high,don't you think so?
I would suggest to make that you can choose how many money you pay (with a limit ofc) to play ranked.And,depending on how many money you paid to pay,if you win,you will get more coins.However,if you lose,you lose all the coins you paid,so it will make you to think twice about how many coins are you going to spend.
quaint bramble
That would be great for rigging the game with friends to make money 🤔
And otherwise, it would be gambling
If you put in 100 coins and youre gonna be the solo, thats a big punch in the face
serene lotus
@languid sandal idea but he is too shy, so I’ll suggest it for him:
Make it impossible to suicide all of a sudden in ranked games.
At the moment, some people use suiciding as a way to prove their own role and to “save” the village. E.g., 4 people are left: 1 is ww/solo, the other three players are villagers, but they don’t know who is the last bad guy for sure. The evil role puts much effort into claiming and faking a role, he is about to convince the other two villagers that he is a villager as well so that they vote out the other one. This is where more and more people decide to suicide: they leave the game all of the sudden to show the last two villagers that they have to vote the actual bad guy. This is beneficial for the village ofc, but suiciding shouldn’t be used as a tactic simply because it is unfair.
Instead of suiciding all of a sudden, players in ranked should only be able to go offline but not leave the game completely. They should only be able to suicide after 2 nights just as they do it now.
rigid bronze
@languid sandal and @serene lotus, this sounds like a good idea, but the first and main goal of suiciding is having to finish a game right now because of X reason, so blocking people from suiciding is kinda weird
Even tho, maybe something could happen when suiciding in ranked ?
serene lotus
We don’t mean that you should make it impossible to leave the game, just the quick suicides. By clicking on X, the player would just get asked something like “Do you really want to leave this game and stay absent/offline?” or something like. By clicking yes, they would get straight to the main menu just as usual
Yea well there have been many suggestions about longer suicide bans (especially for ranked) but you’re still able to shorten the time enormously by watching ads sadly 👉🏼👈🏼
rigid bronze
Yea... I will ask another helper to handle this cuz I have to go, but that sounds pretty noice
charred kiln
Yeah suiciding to prove is the worst kind of evilness
But idk
But if u first night suicide will u go “offline” too?
uncut tusk
@serene lotus Heya, so about your idea
Would those players, who choose to become offline and go back to the main menu, still be able to join again the game? I assume not, but I'd like to be sure
serene lotus
@uncut tusk oh i don’t mind, maybe they should be able to rejoin in case they change their mind about playing in that one particular game (especially when people “suicide” in the first night), but tbh I don’t really mind if they weren’t be able to do so
i’m just thinking: If you give them the ability to rejoin, there might be people who’ll come back every two minutes again and again so that they don’t actually suicide
so they wouldn’t play actually but farm xp or skill points by rejoining every now and then
ah i just answered this question myself 😂 maybe not being able to rejoin is the better choice here
uncut tusk
Hmmm I think they would just let their phones on and play games all day long anyway, without leaving or anything, but without playing either (no talking, no voting, no ability uses) 🤔
But okay 😊 Sounds like a decent idea, I'm not sure why it wasn't suggested before, I'll add it to #feedback-devs 😉 Thanks a lot for suggesting 😄
@serene lotus Should I mention you or Sterros?
serene lotus
Thank you very much
serene lotus
Mention him or both of us, it was his idea
uncut tusk
Alright 👍
serene lotus
I just wrote the text 
runic dragon
Idk, it would be fun to have those cumcumbers as "eyes"
median elbow
#1 There should be random events like the week of Christmas to introduce the president/sorcerer for a few days. Both roles aren't being used so there isn't a reason not to bring them out to the public once a year.
#2 Double XP and double coins events around the holidays would be nice
And temporarily renaming roles would be cool. Like and entire Christmas theme
A "language pack" if you wanna call it that
Also STFU should be censored - a lot of apps do this already I'm shocked this one doesn't
unborn rose
median elbow
Yes it's like a small event similar to the Halloween one. But the role are renamed for a small amount of time
It's a temporary update
sacred sable
Don't be too shocked that they don't censor acronyms
full falcon
What Halloween event ? 😂
signal raft
It's hard to maintain order in clans. A separate window should be added and announcements of leaders and co-leaders should appear there. And for example, a clan member will not be able to make a donation or participate in the quest, and he wants to report it to the clan leader/co-leader, so there must be a separate department.
sacred sable
Explain the "clan member will not be able to make a donation or psrticipate in quest" bit
runic dragon
@signal raft sounds like an interesting idea and would solve many order-related issues ^^
Can you just explain a little bit better the part which @sacred sable underlined please?
quaint bramble
@median elbow I think renaming roles for an event is way too confusing. And those roles were removed from regular game modes because they are very difficult and unbalanced to play...
median elbow
@quaint bramble what about double xp/coin events
@quaint bramble and I meant the roles return as a friendly visit and wall down memory lane if ya feel me
quaint bramble
I dont think the devs need a post in #feedback-devs to be reminded that giving out more xp/coins is an option...
And the return of those roles would require a new game mode probably, since they just dont fit in the current ones anymore :/
runic dragon
I just want to make a suggestion about the berserk nerf, because maybe only killing protectors is too big of a nerf for many players (no one wants to kill doc), but a berserk nerf is necessary, I suggest to change berserk ability as bypass all protection once when his ability activates ,so the nerf would be more acceptable for players
runic dragon
I want a berserk nerf :/
peak knot
Me too
sacred sable
I've been told berserk is losing victim killing if protectors block, but the frenzy will kill the protectors off?
runic dragon
Rn frenzy kills both victim and protectors
(Which is obv too op)
Can kill 6 ppl max
Too op meh
If it’s just bypass protection it’s playable but not OP as before
sacred sable
If it bypasses, it shouldn't be called berserk anymore, it should be like, a ninja or assassin
runic dragon
if it doesn’t just bypass its too op
sacred sable
Maybe only killing one of the protectors at random?
peak knot
Why not go with the idea of bypassing protectors
What's wrong with it
Killing protectors is actually bad for ww in most cases.
runic dragon
Like the example of gunner and jailer there’s sometimes only one protector...
Berserk is mainly used to get rid of gunner jailer anyway
peak knot
Yep
runic dragon
Let’s just get this straight,
Wws would not want to kill doc and all other protectors in one go if it cannot wipeout the village because protectors are their scapegoat
peak knot
This ^
Scapegoat: a player with a role the bad roles can use as a fake claim (non provable)
runic dragon
If berserk just bypasses protection, it’s a nerf for them in the case of gunner and jailer, where they would want to kill the protector as well. Otherwise it’s a buff for ww, as in most other cases they would want to fake a protector, the modified ability gives them some claiming space
runic dragon
youp it’s literally common sense
peak knot
I know
sacred sable
Yikes
peak knot
Not for all of us
runic dragon
eww
runic dragon
Ahaha don’t we all
vivid blaze
How about we make it that gunner is only able to shoot in the voting window everyday just like it's on day 1?
Coz imagine. There have been so many times that gunner random shoots first day and if someone says to report, he immediately shoots him also the next day. If we make shooting possible only during voting, it'll reduce gamethrowing and random killing.
runic dragon
I don’t see the point, the only change is that the shot player would die in voting
vivid blaze
Not really. Dont judge too fast
Coz let's say day 2 there's a chance that seers will call that player good
And also, seers would surely give other bad info. So it's less of a reason to shoot any other player
runic dragon
Yeah, but you’re saying the gunner isn’t shooting based on the player’s role...
So the gunner would shoot said player anyway
vivid blaze
Basically, the gunner will have no excuses by this
You're misunderstanding the point
And it's hard to explain as well
runic dragon
The gunner wouldn’t have any excuses in the current situation either...
vivid blaze
🤦♂️
runic dragon
You could just report said gunner
vivid blaze
Mate idk if u follow the chat here or not but we've discussed 'reporting' beyond all limits
And that's the reason why I'm suggesting this point
runic dragon
Ikr
vivid blaze
Also think about it this way. The next day the gunner can ask the player who asked to report him "role?". So however he responds, the gunner will have a justified reason to shoot or not shoot
runic dragon
||If he shoots too fast, it’s his problem...||
I suppose I’m not looking at this in the quick game point of view nvm
vivid blaze
You clearly havent been following our earlier discussing about why 'reporting' isn't effective
Please go read that first so u can understand what I'm trying to say
Anyways @quaint bramble or any other helper plz check this suggestion out so we can discuss about this
runic dragon
Yikes I suppose I’m missing the point
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/646480742624264223
Can a helper pls read this as well
split coral
At #ingame-reports-archieved lisa in between parenthesis said: "it hasn't have to be..."
Please edit to: "it doesn't have to be..."
runic dragon
@runic dragon ehy there ^^ I don't think that would be accepted, it's just all or nothing for berserk
@vivid blaze mh, I've understood your points but I'm not 100% sure about this. I will ask the others so that I can provide you a better answer 😄
@split coral oki ^^ thank you
split coral
Ur welcome
Aorry for being annoying
Sorry*
Btw, i think that for smaller clans quest price should be lower becuse it would be harder for them, maybe multiply price by ammount of people?
runic dragon
You are not being annoying
It's nice to see those attentions
split coral
I think 3.2k for a 3 people clan is kinda overkill
runic dragon
@split coral that's not fair since clans were born with the purpose to welcome several players and not just 2-3 people... so it's fair that if your clan contains more people the price per person is lower ^^
peak knot
@runic dragon What exactly do you mean by ''all or nothing''?
runic dragon
@peak knot oh sorry, my bad for misspelling, all or nothing is what I wanted to say😅
cedar hinge
Complaint: Why does President exist!?
President is a role everyone knows and if he dies the village loses.
So, it's common sense for BGs and Doctors to protect them.
BUT President can still be killed through...
Arsonist
Junior WW
WW berserk
So, it's really unfair to have this role in the game.
runic dragon
@peak knot devs have given us only two options and are not willing to change it any other way
peak knot
I respectfully disagree with them
runic dragon
😅 I will post your feedback so that maybe they can consider your option ^^
peak knot
too narrow-minded on the matter, in my opinion
it is obvious berserker ww is too strong when it shows up in ranke
ranked
cedar hinge
Hello...?
peak knot
the suggestion was by setto by the way, just many (if not all) of our clan think the same way about berserker.
Hello @cedar hinge
runic dragon
@cedar hinge ehy sorry but I was answering another person ^^
President is only available in custom games and this will not change, so it is just a fun.role to play with but it will never be introduced in a serious game mode :)
cedar hinge
Oh ok
runic dragon
@peak knot yeah but let's not forget how difficult it is to win for wws
peak knot
@runic dragon Let me stop you there
Yes, in one way you are very right
Wws is a difficult team to play in
BUT
With the appearance of berserker
Chances increase DRASTICALLY
cedar hinge
it kills an important role. period.
peak knot
So it doesn't balance, but SWAPS the balance from village being stronger to ww being stronger
It kills two roles (of which one is vital)
if it kills jailer + gunner in a fool game it's just major destruction
cedar hinge
no way ww helps fool
runic dragon
I can see your points ^^
I am posting it, big thanks to you and @runic dragon for suggesting and explaining your reasons
peak knot
No problem. PR is always there to explain gameplay problems if needed 😉
I think the staff community could use something like 'gameplay managers'
or something
idk, just a random suggestion
too keep ranked optimized
Honestly, I think Ema might ignore the feedback because he thinks he already covered it
runic dragon
Uhm, what would it be and how would it work?
peak knot
But potatoes downvoted the nerf
Well
Just staff whose job it is too keep track of ranked gameplay (strategies, problems, skill division etc)
They would need to provide feedback about it and suggestions that can be offered to the devs directly
So if changes are needed, it won't have to be done through this (slow) way
runic dragon
Uhm, sounds interesting. I will also talk about this with the other staff members ^^
Thank you once again for the suggestions😄
peak knot
Always! I love this game, so I will give my all to do whatever I can to improve it
I think it can be a super good game competitively, it's just not really at that stage yet!
lunar salmon
Second time today and only been playing for an hour
If we're not going to disable emotes at night, we at least need to raise awareness. There needs to be a disclaimer on the emotes that says using them to tell info is against the rules.
peak knot
Yeah! Just take roses out of ranked games, I completely agree.
Also, disable emojis
And having another username each game might be a good thing too, to avoid players getting targeted
(ToS already does this!)
lunar salmon
Literally the NEXT game I played. I'm trying to prove that it's a prevalent problem.
peak knot
Hahahah
They are not a part of the game, and shouldn't be
Maybe you could try enabling roses and emojis pre and postgame
lament knoll
Emotes -> it's common sense using them for purposes of giving information when you're not supposed to is against the rules, also even if it would be stated in the rules i highly doubt that it's gonna change anything but it might be nice to avoid the "doesn't stand in the rules" 'excuse' not an excuse at all but people use it as excuse
Disable emotes -> some people only play ranked so i see no point in them having wasted their money on Emotes they cant use just because some people abuse it.
This kind of collective punishment are not really welcome, if you got any fair idea towards it hit me up tho
Having another username -> already suggested before to give people a randomly given name or just a number to keep up anonymity but that'd cause in problems in the terms of, what if you wanted to add a person, add them but don't know their proper name so you won't recognise them in your friends list.
Not really a fan of that + already been suggested and posted before, still thanks for your concerning and suggestion!
Rose code -> it's against the rules, it's common sense that it is against the rules, disabling roses in ranked has already been suggested and posted before, i can try to get you the link to up vote it tho!
Thanks for your concerns and commitment towards the game and fixing issues, it's highly appreciated, have a good day! ;)
quaint bramble
Personally I also think emoji's are useless crap, but they are so integrated in the game now, people bought emoji packs, unlocked them from BP's etc. Disabling them for the night is the best we coud try to convince the devs of, probably
peak knot
Why would you want to use emojis in game anyways?
Emojis could be used in any other mode (quick, custom, sandbox), just remove cheating options in ranked
Right now, these illegal codes are giving the guardians more work than they should and could have
Save their time!
And other people can still show all of the cool stuff they bought, ranked is just not really meant for that, is it?
lunar salmon
I love the idea of disabling them at night, but I completely understand the not wanting collective punishment side. I think at least making a disclaimer would be nice so I can at least stop getting that dumb excuse.
lament knoll
Some people only play ranked, because that's the only mode where you still can get a decent gameplay <- words of a ranked player and not mine.
Why would you need to move into another game mode with another system just to use the things you used money for?
If you go by that logic we'll get to the point where everyone in ranked just has a number as a name, wearing a default outfit and all you can do is chat.
Emotes got the purpose of showing your emotions, while it might not seem useful to you, others are of a different opinion and you shouldn't be forced to play another game mode to use a basic game feature you can spend money on.
@lunar salmon like in the rules in the emote section or at the beginning of a ranked game?
peak knot
@lament knoll You have a point there. In all honesty, 'communism' in ranked would actually be perfection though
lunar salmon
I was thinking maybe as a text box that pops up when you first try to use an emote? Like the ones for roles that tell you what you're doing and you can check the box to make them not pop up again?
lament knoll
Like "using emotes to deliver information, for example in the night is breaking of a rule. If you do so you got to expect a fitting punishment. Are you sure you want to use an emote right now?"
**Ok** **Cancel**
□ do not show again
lament knoll
Alright! Heading to #feedback-devs with it!
Thanks for your suggestion
lunar salmon
Thank you so much for your help
peak knot
Yep! Good idea, that warning
lament knoll
Alright so we can agree upon that?
Awesome ^^
And it's my pleasure that i could help you!
lunar salmon
I think that's a great compromise. I'm totally happy with that. 😊
peak knot
same
I'm going to hang around in this channel more the coming days
Some good changes on the way
quaint bramble
Maybe it should include examples 'I will emote if X is bad' and using the( knight) emoji to ask for protection?
sonic glacier
Hello people 😁 I was curious as to why ww's couldnt chat with each other during the day? Like once the day starts, the ww's can have a place to chat other then where villagers are chatting, that way they can share information they find about who is what role. Was this an idea that has already been discussed before? I'm new here so I was just curious :)
runic dragon
That's basically a buff to Werewolf which ain't bad.
But being kinda realistic, the day is where Villagers are awake, so if a Werewolf try to talk with another Werewolf at the day, the villagers are around them and would hear them talking
They can talk at night cuz the villagers are sleeping and noone can hear them
sonic glacier
Ah that's fair. I just figured it would be a nice addition. Especially if it's down to two ww's versus villagers. Being able to communicate with your other half would be great to come up with a strategy because the time given at night is really short 😂
runic dragon
@sonic glacier That was just a comment tho 👀, wait until a helper reply
sonic glacier
@runic dragon Oh my bad 😂 I was just replying to your opinion anyways, very sorry XD
runic dragon
@sonic glacier ehi there ^^ I think this would really be op and if you think it in a village logic: wouldn't it be suspicious that some villagers gather to talk?😅
limpid loom
So not sure if this should go here or what but have a small idea/request for avatar customization. I think we should have a tab for skins and have different colored skins like pink purple green ect I just think it be cool and fun to have :p just an idea tho
cedar hinge
I'd like a small addition. In custom game lobbies, when you talk your name is coloured gold, but this never happens in games. Can my name (when you talk) be coloured gold in games?
sonic glacier
😂 @runic dragon Yeah I guess you're right lol. Ever since I started playing it's always been on my mind. Guess I can cross that idea off the list
lament knoll
Heyy @limpid loom this is actually a high requested idea but the big question is, which colours would get added?
Currently it's up to designers, if you, for instance got a cool design with a nice new skin colour which a lot of people and the devs like, the devs might think about adding it!
So it's basically up to designers, it's hard to find a skin colour that people would like and actually use, pink, green and blue are too undefined, maybe a certain tone of blue is disliked by the community and so on
The devs are aware of people liking to get other and extraordinary skin colours and they do like that idea, it's just a difficult and wide range of what's possible and of the possible - realisation scale
Thanks for your suggestion tho❣
limpid loom
right on i was working on a light purple skined one but i wasnt sure if it would even get looked at bc of the skin color the plan was to base it off another drawing of mine but if there is a chance ill draw one up and see what yall think ^.^
lament knoll
@cedar hinge heyy
So basically just showing your own name in the chat coloured in gold to make you find your own messages easier?
I guess that sounds fair ^^
I did not see this having been suggested before, atleast not in the last couple of months.
Thanks for your suggestion, i'll post it into #feedback-devs for you ❣
cedar hinge
Yes, as I see that my name in the chat is coloured in gold in the lobby of custom games. It confuses me why this was done as this was not done in game
Thanks
sonic glacier
I have another idea :) So I was thinking about the way we earn gold, from getting chests and spinning the wheel (The worst way tbh lol) and I was thinking about the addition of daily quests to earn more gold. For example, each day can have 3 or more quests, each ranging from 50-500 gold :) The quest could be (Play 10 matches of sandbox, earn 150 gold) or (earn 5k xp today, get 100 gold) If this makes sense. Watching a 30 second ad only to land on 10 gold/a rose on the wheel is the worst 😂
I think it would give people an incentive to play more to complete the daily quests and earn gold
lament knoll
There is actually way more ways to earn gold!
In fact -> https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/440873630562517002/638780124212232202
That is a whole list of options how you can gain gold
The concept of daily quests has already been suggested before very often in the most various ways and few of them even managed to get into #feedback-devs so i don't think we need another post on that, as the devs are aware of people which'd like such daily quests
Tho you already got: clan quests, daily rewards, the rose wheel, the battle pass, playing ranked and so on
Imo we got many various ways of being able to earn gold anyways!
Anyhow, thanks alot for your suggestion ❣
hollow yew
Hey i have a feedback. Recently sandbox mode has been filled with new players and it's kind of affecting how the game goes on and basically affecting the team. So i was thinking, why don't we allow sandbox mode to be played by players who are level 30 or something and above? New players can figure out exactly how the game goes like.
signal raft
Clans should have a weekly gold registration system
flint atlas
when I open the chat in game, my keyboard opens correctly, but to close my keyboard I need to click outside of it. Normally when I open my keyboard the back button automatically pops up as well, so I can close it easily. Isn't it an option to let them appear aswell here?
As shown in the pic, the buttons aren't there. I post it here as I don't know if it is intended or a #bugs-readonly
white isle
maybe the colour of your username when you send something in a chat can be the same colour as your 'player icon'?😁
runic dragon
The main reason to add this function is to distinguish your messages and others’ right
@white isle now imagine a full lobby who has the same icon colour; that’d do the trick to discourage you
white isle
no i mean just for yourself, because i dont like the colour it is now so maybe give the opportunity to change it yourself😅
fierce shale
Oh that is a good point
runic dragon
Personally just putting a different colour for your messages is fine tho
huh i get that works
some colours would need to be banned tho
like yellow or pale blue or something that would be hard to see
white isle
it's your own choice to choose such colours but yeah you can also just ban it hahah
fierce shale
So I think it would be nice to move the location and/or size of the exit blocker acheivement/reward notification badge, because it covers all the of the buttons. It rather annoying trying to leave and having to wait for it to go away amd then comeback again for a sec , especially on an old and slow device
Maybe it could move upwards , or downwards as to not cover the win/lose badge
Maybe just make it smaller
Or maybe just change the shape
That screensnot is of it coming back after watching an ad btw
runic dragon
Maybe something like around the top right corner or top left corner?
About 3/4 of place 1 grave
But I suppose that’s too small
runic dragon
... no
fierce shale
Oh lmao
runic dragon
I’m just here for the berserk nerf
Helpers has a orange name or something like that
Yeah
runic dragon
Also can solo voting roles (fool/hh) not be able to be killed d1 by ww or sk?
Because if they die first night it’s likely due to random and they’d just lose like that for no good reason, unrelated to their skill
They could still die afterwards... by village or by ww or by killers... but at least they wouldn’t be killed accidentally due to random, they’d have a chance to play their role as well
I’m not including zombies because zombies basically form a team, I don’t know about sl though.
That's also a big buff to ww 🤔
It’s just d1... they can kill fool d2 if they like
But fool and hh deserves a chance, being randomed by ww or sk is just dumb luck
Fool and HH are killed D1 by randoming, is less prob they will random at day 2
Yeah, that’s why it could give more chance to let them alive and give them a shot
runic dragon
At least let me know why
fierce shale
¿ first of all why should a solo role have the blessing a free night to live , sk can kill ww and corr and bomber and arso so why not a defenseless fool akd a weak headhunter
runic dragon
Ww has a team; even if they die they still have 3 wws left to carry and possibly win...
Hh and fool don’t. And they just lose for no good reason d1
runic dragon
Fool gaining more skill and xp is because they need to have more skill to win, not because they might die d1...
runic dragon
Okay so a solo voting role gets killed first day because he has bad luck, and what then? Rip 5 gold and skill
fierce shale
Pretty much
runic dragon
It wouldn’t matter if he had that skill to get lynched or get his target lynched. He’s still dead day one and has no chance to win
fierce shale
Same for village loss
Luck of the draw
Like killing med first day
In general tho
It's too op of a buff
runic dragon
Yes, luck is a part for checking, but hh and fool wouldn’t get a chance to try, villagers can still win without med
fierce shale
Like I get it but it's too big of a leap
runic dragon
Wws can still win with a ww stabbed d1 and vil can still win ofc with med dead d1, but solos are destroyed if killed d1
fierce shale
I agree with you on giving them a chance but I'm not sure that THAT is the chance they deserve
runic dragon
I meant just not be able to die first day not afterwards
fierce shale
I know
runic dragon
They can still die to village or d2 or whatever
fierce shale
What about sect and zb
runic dragon
First night actually
Aren’t they counted as solo voting roles
Fine, solo voting roles and converting roles then...
fierce shale
I'm sorry m8 it just would be to overpowered
fierce shale
Well with zb all you need is one other infected to get it going and to prettymuch ensure a victory against zb you need to kill it first night
Sect , I dont like sect lmao
Hh ehh maybe this could work
Fool
I dont know what to say about fool
Its 3am I gave my opinion lol goodnight sir or maddam
runic dragon
Night
fierce shale
runic dragon
I think Flower Child Must add in ww classic Like you choose 1 player in night if village try the kill him say plauer 3 protected by flower child
Flower child should be added to classic later, it’s in sandbox now because it’s a new role and still being tested 🧐
Can i Suggest a role for ww classic
That goes to #role-ideas-readonly @runic dragon
In ww classic sk can be killed by ww I think sk cant be killed by ww like wwo
charred kiln
I suggest to make it possible to donate gold to friends/people ig/clanmates/ what so ever.
Some time ago i think i got the counterargument against me that people will make second accounts and donate theirself but that possibility is already ig since you convert gold into “rose donation” and then donating roses to yourself so gold donating wouldnt be that bad.
Also you may add sth that you cant donate more than 500 gold a day or sth
restive carbon
nerf zombie
runic dragon
Ya, but u need to elaborate on how to nerf zombie
runic dragon
quaint crescent
Hi can hh be removed from gold league or receive a buff or smth? Current hh isnt really solo team since most hh just reveals their target to help vill and instead increases the chance of vill winning since hh helps vill after he dies. I suggest letting hh have a new target everytime their target dies until there are no more good/vills left. This is to make sure hh is practically on their own instead of on vills team. And also increases the odds of ww and sk/arso of winning
quaint crescent
Or maybe not let the players see whether the match is a hh/fool or arso/sk match in the lobby? Some people tend to avoid fool matches cause they dw to play with fool
@runic dragon the reason why they have a new target is so that they are forever on their own
Bruh
runic dragon
You mean, hide it until the game starts?
quaint crescent
Yes
runic dragon
That idea is fine
vivid blaze
Another reason why I want to make shooting possible only during voting is that sometimes on day 2 when a target is enchanted and he's called a ww, gunner immediately shoots him without even giving time to explain. And same for an actual ww also, giving him time to claim a role makes the game more interesting.
Gunners are always dumb so think about this suggestion it's a good one to prevent them from spoiling games so often. And I don't see any downsides to this. Shooting only during voting is pretty good
floral quail
I'm not dumb
So basicly, I'm in ranked gold.... but I have 1 suggestion though. Its says "Your target could be bla bla bla." For newbies, they don't know that the role can be a rrv too so if the med, jailer and gunner are revealed / killed, they just kill them. Maybe say it "Yiur target could be bla bla bla or a rrv"
runic dragon
newbies wouldn’t be in ranked, think about it
i mean there’s noobs yes, but to join ranked u have to play at least something rounds of quick play yes? so they’d know to check role list hopefully
and they had to make it to gold ranked, so they played silver before, there’s unk rrv in silver as well
floral quail
@runic dragon well you never know
runic dragon
they’d at least know there’s unknown rvs in the game i guess...
except some noobs, well even if u add the rv into desc it wouldn’t help a lot if they’re that noob...
floral quail
I have never gotten doctor in silver
runic dragon
but you know there’s a role called doctor and its aura and so on
floral quail
URGHH MY INTERNET
runic dragon
i think it’s just a problem of some players, not much player would really need that
plus unk rvs can just remind said noobs that there’s unk rvs ig🤔
floral quail
no i mean, if I never got doctor in silver before, there is a possibility tht some people never get aura before
runic dragon
they don’t need to get aura to know there’s unknown rvs though
floral quail
especially if they are new, they are so lucky and have a win streak that helps them to go to gold
runic dragon
if someone pays a little attention in game they’d know actually...
floral quail
true, but this is my suggestion
runic dragon
and if u climbed to gold u probably would have been in some games with witch bh or mm...
it’s ok, i just ranted about my opinion
floral quail
then fully remove the your target could be bla bla bla?
runic dragon
sorry for bothering
floral quail
it's useless too cuz we can check the role list
runic dragon
i mean having the normal roles is fine but the rvs aren’t necessarily unknown every game...
the normal unk roles are definitely in game so they could be safely listed
i just think that’s the situation idk really
floral quail
Im just saying add exactly like
Your target could SK, med, jailer, fool, gunner, one of a random Regular Villager or one of a Random Werewolf
floral quail
also, by adding that, you make the village scared, that can be used as an advantage for the wolves
runic dragon
will adding four words really make the village scared
well ok if that’s what u think
floral quail
psychology
runic dragon
no offence, but not a lot of people might notice that change tbh
like only a few players who pay real attention
floral quail
Well when you put "Random Wolf", they can be scared because alpha is there
lament knoll
Alrighty @charred kiln
Already been suggested before, being able to gift gold, quite alot actually, i don't see it being that convenient to get posted again honestly but i could give you the link to it?
Thanks for your suggestion it's appreciated!
@restive carbon thats a pretty relative statement, we cant fix a role if we dont get any clues on how to fix it, also there has been suggested alot of reasonable zombie nerfs from whom some were also seen by the devs so now it's up to them whether to change it or not!
I can give you few links to suggestion so you can upvote them or add a +1 for you into the database if thats alright?
Thanks for your suggestion, it's highly appreciated!
@quaint crescent
This was already suggested and it was also already suggested that, the hh should just get infinite targets and not be able to win with the village ^^
Your suggestion is appreciated and i'll add a +1 in the database for you!💕
@floral quail
Has already been suggested before aswell, adding rrv into the description of the aura seer.
Tho med/jailer/gunner cant be rrv ig you're talking about srv?
If yes -> ig there was a suggestion about generally adding "or any rv" i think it has been declined because you should know that there is a random villager, or that person can simply claim their role or claim to be rv
I dont see much convenience in it but thanks for your suggestion it's highly appreciated!
(80% sure it has already been posted but i can't find the post rn, i'll check in the db)
runic dragon
floral quail
@lament knoll no, I was like adding that... im not saying med jailer gunner is rrv
runic dragon
can i get anyone to uh look at this
runic dragon
it has been declined because you should know that there is a random villager, or that person can simply claim their role or claim to be rv
lament knoll
@vivid blaze i kind of agree on that actually, well of course not on all of your arguments but only being able to shoot during the voting phase because the discussion phase should be as the name already says left for discussion.
I did not see this havinh been in #feedback-devs before, i'll post it for you in a bit!
Thanks for the suggestion ^^
runic dragon
i think some players would suggest that rw can be unk alpha as well, similar to this ^
light crane
Should add 'bastard' to the banned words
runic dragon
ok so i get ignored again
floral quail
@lament knoll this is my suggestion cause usually gunner just shoot People of there are no more unk left without thinking the possibility of having an rrv unk
runic dragon
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/646630593450213376
^ can someone really read this .—.
@floral quail not necessarily true though it happens, usually it’s just in potato lobbies
lament knoll
i am currently in a rush to get to class ^^'
||@uncut tusk wanna handle setto and everyone real quick? 💕👀||
runic dragon
well nvm it can wait
sacred sable
Since we're suggesting words to censor
Ass is still not censored in English, lol
mighty granite
@sacred sable You're telling us to censor the word "ass"?
charred kiln
@lament knoll was it downvoted?
sacred sable
I mean, it's a swear in English
Same aa bastard
Also, I noticed that depending on what language you select in game, you can bypass the censors for other languages
mighty granite
Okay, these words should be censored, right? I'll put them in #feedback-devs, swearing isn't a good thing. @sacred sable
woeful mesa
ass is too much used in the english language
that's why it isn't censored if I'm not wrong
mighty granite
🤔
split coral
We will have to say poop hole
woeful mesa
you're welcome^^
sacred sable
I mean
Asshole is AUTOMATICALLY reported by the game for typing it
And hump, chode, suck and so many other words are censored for English
charred kiln
Censored words are bulshit
sacred sable
Tfw I can't type chump change cuz hump
charred kiln
Like you can just say it with a space
woeful mesa
I can only agree here though
if someone really wants to use an insult
he will find a way to bypass the censoring
charred kiln
Yeah also makes annoying things in other languages
mighty granite
But since the Ass word is used by many words, we cannot censor that, but Asshole isn't used by words
sacred sable
Maybe instead of forced censors (and I know this is moot) maybe make a censor filter you can toggle on/off in case you have that sailor's tongue
Can't even count how many games I know of/played that have like an R17+ word filter, for the kidduns
woeful mesa
but there are always way to bypass it... and the censuring at least stop the words that can be sent as a reflex ||eg fck||, so the chat is clearer.
sacred sable
And to reiterate, if you choose a different language on the game, it only uses that language's filters so if you type English in say, Russian, all the English words censored are useless on it
woeful mesa
nope it doesn't
try writting competition
you can't because in another language titi is censored
or it changed
sacred sable
Weird
woeful mesa
titi is censored but not tit
glacial warren
Hey ^^ Basically the possibility to turn the filter on and off has already been suggested. But the thing is, that many players would see this as an OK to insult others, since they can see it.
I agree, that many words need to be censored, but it's partly not possible. "ass" is used as a part of many words and then users would complain about the fact that they can't even write words properly.
If users want to insult, they won't care about the censor thing, since they find another way to bypass it.
Also I don't think we need to write all these words here to be honest
sacred sable
Fair enough.
rigid bronze
Retard is pretty much always used as an insult (very sadly...)
split coral
I mean, we need something, like the gunner that shoots random, we need at least retard :(
runic dragon
Why didn't the roles change
lament knoll
well if you're referring to the noun, it's very offensive, having a serious mental disability can't be connected to simply shooting randomly
Shooting randomly isn't smart, you can say anything else to them like "are you serious?" "Why would you do that?" Or well something less offensive.
Like nexo said this regular noun is used as an insult and we won't tolerate that.
@runic dragon seems rather like something for #questions but it could be that they change later today, it's usually on Wednesday and an unknown time but sometimes problems occur so they come in tardation
woeful mesa
Hi, for the last feedback devs, I want to say that for jww, in the case seer wasn't revealed before, it is extremely useful that gunner can shoot directly after day 1^^
lament knoll
I know that ^ just posted the suggestion 💕
light crane
@mighty granite I mean to censor the word bastard was my idea but it's alright
sacred sable
Is true, I just confirmed because in English, it's used as an insult
lament knoll
@woeful mesa tho you don't have to give your info in the discussion phase, i saw many people just giving jww info once the voting starts 👀
It's all about strategy
woeful mesa
Yeah ofc, just pointing out one of the use of shooting during the discution phase👀
lament knoll
Yea i know that it can be very useful, but it can also bring lots of disadvantages
Well pretty much like every suggestion, they always got an upside and downside👀
Up to the voters which side weighs more in their opinion ^^
woeful mesa
haha yup^^
proper turret
if u didnt have finished any quest in clan, it just goes round forever and nothing pops up.... donno if its bug but if its not, we should have something like 'there isnt any quest finished in this clan'
split coral
Oh and btw, on portuguese, uncensor cu becuse its unplayable, examples: culpa, desculpa, escuta, etc. All words we need to play the game, but dont have
rocky onyx
portuguese ranked servers pls
glacial warren
@proper turret heyyy ^^ this sounds like a good suggestion, and I'm not sure, if it's a bug, but I will post it in #feedback-devs 😉
white jolt
it would be great if no one is able to use emotes during the night to prevent emote code
proper turret
@glacial warren thx
split coral
@white jolt what is emote code?
hot valley
Emote code is for example: Ill emote if 5 is bad
split coral
Ah ok
white jolt
^
sacred sable
"AM SEER, CHECKING 7, IF BAD WILL EMOTE"
glacial warren
@split coral heyo ^^ if parts of words are censored, that hey are mostly an insult in another language means, that these words will stay censored ^~^ I'm sorry for the inconvenience
split coral
Like, thats 1/10 words messed up tho
sacred sable
What doe cu even mean in other languages though?
glacial warren
@rocky onyx hello ^^ ranked servers will get added, if there are enough players, which play the game in this language AND are active in ranked. If that's not the case, there are not enough players for the game mode, there are no games. Even then thank you for your suggestion 
sacred sable
And if one language is an insult and is censored in other languages, why aren't English words all censored in said other languages??
split coral
In portuguese cu means ass, not censored in english tho
sacred sable
Ahhh, a perfect example
white jolt
So can we do this ? 👇
it would be great if no one is able to use emotes during the night to prevent emote code