Ok
#feedback-readonly
thin dome
median elbow
There are many examples from gaming history I can list off. I don't like most of the updates minecraft has been putting out, a lot of people don't like them. The stone cutter, the grinder, the fireplace. A lot of pointless features that just make the game feel more modded.
I'm all for a gameplay change
thin dome
RGTube but people in Minecraft can still play in the old versions
They canβt do that here
median elbow
It takes time for people to adapt to changes, back to the clan of clans updated for the town hall. I was one if the players against the change but I adapted and now I'm glad they changed the town hall. Making the hh change it's target could improve the gameplay
lament knoll
@median elbow devs only add stuff when they see at least a decent amount of people like them + if they like it themselves
Because after changing it we will get tons of reports that say it should get changed back and then all the effort was for nothing,,,
median elbow
It's like saying "the zombie role should just get removed because it's op" a lot of people will agree but the developers will likely disagree
Also I'd like to suggest this, make the avenger an unknown villager role
lament knoll
Yeah they do - and i am afraid we can't do anything against that
We cant force the developers to change something in their own app
median elbow
Very true. Idk I was just super fond of the hh being slightly harder and slightly better since hh#villager
@lament knoll do you have a link to the original hh post in #feedback-devs
lament knoll
Sure gimme a sec
thin dome
I have another feedback idea
lament knoll
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/602486073716637716 ~~just saw that emanuel also downvoted it so it's been already seen by the devs
@median elbow ^
thin dome
Can we add a Random Protector role? Remove all the protectors from rrv and put them into random protector because I feel like when you get an rrv protector ing its an easy win in sandbox
median elbow
Yeah I see. WIll my other 2 suggestions get posted or be confirmed they are a repost
- Avenger should have an unknown aura
- The detective info should make the hh should = the village team when the target dies
quaint bramble
@thin dome recently suggested, i'll find the link in fb-devs
serene lotus
Make it possible to view the profile/stats of people youβre already friends with in ranked games.
median elbow
I already suggested that, ranked isn't meant to be played with "friends" @serene lotus
quaint bramble
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/627299900811640854 Here it is, if you wanna add a thumbs up to it @thin dome
thin dome
Ty
serene lotus
yah but sometimes you meet people you know already π₯΄ idk just an idea
quaint bramble
@median elbow HH interactions are a common topic here, but the idea is that lying and deceiving is an important aspect of the role. And to allow hh to do that freely, his interactions should not change based on his target's alive/death status. So it is and should stay impossible to confirm if he lies or not
lament knoll
@median elbow
The first one,, i am pretty sure it was suggested before in #feedback-readonly but prolly got declined as i couldn't find it in #feedback-devs tho i don't quite understand why, i'd need to find the conversation real quick but if i can i can give you a link to it so you can see the arguments
As for the second one i dont know if it is possible as once the hh loses his target he will stay hh/a solo but only change his winning conditions, i guess that's why he keeps being #villager
Tho i got a pretty recent suggestion posted into #feedback-devs to change the hh desc to say that if his target dies he'll still be killable my mm and #a villager
pallid steppe
Can we add 3 extras skins because there are sooo many new skins
lament knoll
~~i thought it isn't possible coding wise but i just remembered that zombie turning also changes roles so nvm,, but i guess it would make more sense turning the hh into an actual villager then?
Because i think its not possible that the hh stays the hh and =a villager
It would need a role change to regular villager to = a villager i guess
@pallid steppe what do you mean exactly? ^^
Do you mean avatar slots or,,
If yes, more avatar slots have been suggested pretty recently 
pallid steppe
Skins lots yes sorry
ruby kayak
The werewolf, saying the other warewolfs and we lost. Δ° Want report in discord. How can i report him????
lament knoll
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/628019737938624523 <- there is the avatar slot suggestion you can π it if you wannaπ
ruby kayak
???
runic dragon
@ruby kayak You can report them in the game also you can ask everything in #questions
ruby kayak
Δ° cant write this channel
lament knoll
@ruby kayak you should report them in game,,, you can only report on discord if it's about racism or sexual harassment
ruby kayak
@lament knoll but i want report 2 times and 2 reason
lament knoll
@ruby kayak you can select either "others" or one of the reasons you want to report them and then include both reasons in the report
runic dragon
Oh I just noticed #questions is closed π€
quaint bramble
@runic dragon Should be open again now ^^
Staff had to deal with some problems there.
charred kiln
@lament knoll its kinda unfair becuz u dont like my suggestion it wont get a chance to get a voting, maybe others like it very much
warm swan
I don't really like that people can spectate my games whenever they want so my feedback is adding a button that says "spectators: on / off"
rigid bronze
That was already suggested and will most likely be added soon π thanks for your feedback !
warm swan
Okay ^^
lament knoll
@charred kiln if its about the hh thing -> as i said it was already suggested before, posted twice into feedback devs had a 3/1 ratio of 2/3 being dislikes and 1/3 being likes and Emanuel voted a thumbsdown on it so he saw it and doesn't like it
So no -> this isn't about my opinion
runic dragon
Hey, it would be helpful when spirit seer still gets info even when he dies the same night :3
Often Med is still alive and Spirit can't give info^^
thin dome
I actually agree with this. ^ The spirit seer is already debuffed enough in the way that the red spirit shows up if a villager kills, so it makes sense that the spirit seer can give info - sort of like the detective.
night path
but it wouldn't work as the way spirit seer works. If SS checks arsonist & cupid for example, the games code could not know if the arsonist has ignited or not. Detective checks teams, spirit seer checks if they have killed or not.
If you bring spirit seer into a lore based concept. they are like an investigator who checks for evidence of potential killers. You wouldn't know if they have killed if you are dead & haven't had enough time to observe the subjects
night path
I did yes, and i like it
but i just don't understand how it'd exactly work, would you get the results the next day still?
runic dragon
The flames will just show up
Doesn't matter if you're dead or not π
vivid blaze
My game experience today
Game 1 -> 5 villagers, 1 ww and 1 arso left. Seer - "14 arso", aura - "6 evil". And instead they all vote and kill aura seer ππ
Game 2 - first day my ww teammate reveals me. After the game I ask everyone to report him for gamethrowing but they're like "nah" and accuse me of being 'rude' for asking to report the gamethrower. And most of them report me instead for nothing ππ aka group of gamethrowing friends or biased/deluded/racist players
Game 3 - I'm aura and I say 15 unk first day. I ask 15 role he's like "you wanna die?" I say ok I can figure you're gunner. Next day I say 3 evil. And detective say 10#15. I ask gunner to shoot 3 or 10. He doesn't shoot for like 30 secs and I keep repeating shoot shoot shoot alongside everyone, and gunner is like "oh really, take this" and he shoots me (the obvious confirmed aura) instead ππππ aka best gamethrower ever....
runic dragon
@vivid blaze You're suggesting something or just complaining? π
vivid blaze
@runic dragon I'm here sharing this experience to give our so called 'developers' and 'guardians' a wake up call.
lament knoll
Well if they reported you they basically backfired
As a guardian will look at that game because of your reports and instead of punishing you punish them uwu
uncut tusk
@vivid blaze Firstly, it I is not the appropriate channel. As I said, this should do to #wov-chat.
Second, being rude isn't going to help. You can report players who are gamethrowing.
Miiiiiiiiiiin
lament knoll
surpriiise
vivid blaze
@uncut tusk if the reporting system actually could work.... I won't be here. You're all literally so deluded over your reporting system. Can't u realize that those gamethrowers can come back with fake accs. And for your sake yes I did report them but they'll come back with fake anyways
And on the other hand good players like us keep getting banned due to fake reports and have to come here and wait and waste time on disputing the bans
You all literally keep telling us the same thing again and again and just refuse to realize it's useless. This reporting system is useless ffs coz they can easily make fake accs.
It's like we say - "drinking water doesn't cure cancer. What should we do?"
Discord staff - "drink water" πππ€£
runic dragon
I would be happy if you could stay nice @vivid blaze
sand dome
@vivid blaze the same thing could be said about any game - anyone banned could make an alt account.
vivid blaze
Nah mate @sand dome. If you've seen the previous discussions I've had here there's a simple system that every other game uses which is called email verification that prevents from fake acc creation.
sand dome
So that's your suggestion?
runic dragon
creating new emails = new accounts? @vivid blaze
vivid blaze
I'm sharing my gaming experience to remind devs the same thing again and again but they just don't listen
sand dome
(just making sure cuz I can't tell what's a rant and what's actually #feedback-readonly )
runic dragon
You can create 10000 Emails and 10000 Fake Accs or how should the email verification work
vivid blaze
@runic dragon yes ofc this system doesn't remove all of the fake accs but it definitely removes most of them. Coz there's a huge waste of time in creating new emails and then new accs rather than just providing non existent emails.
runic dragon
Creating a new email takes 1min
vivid blaze
@runic dragon obviously this system doesn't permanently fix the issue but every game uses this at the least coz it's so basic type of security
uncut tusk
@vivid blaze Email verification has been declined by Philipp himself, so...
And please stay nice. We are not responsible for those gamethrowing players, and you always can get unbanned if it was wrong. Yes it takes time, but it's always like that, in every online game.
If some solutions are not chosen, it's for some reasons (maybe we cannot tell you what they are, maybe we don't even know them).
runic dragon
If there is email verification or not its still the same it wont hold the people up from making fake accounts
vivid blaze
@runic dragon so you're saying that not having email verification system is better and it's better to allow fake account creation? Wow
You wanna let it the way it is and not try to fix atleast something or atleast make an effort
Lmao so funby
Funny
runic dragon
If there is one or not it doesnt changes anything
vivid blaze
@uncut tusk I am nice. But if I or anyone is given the same bs again and again it's obvious to lose temper
runic dragon
creating email takes 1min so this wont stop anyone
vivid blaze
@runic dragon 'anything' huh...
Not all people are so useless to waste their time making new emails. So it'll reduce gamethrowers and only the really useless people will make fake accs
Obviously it can't be fixed completely but it atleast can be 'reduced'
Again.... you're looking for lame excuses to ignore solutions and be proud of your problems ππ what a genius
runic dragon
It wont reduce.... if you want to throw you even take those 2min in total to do new account
its not a solution
And be nice
uncut tusk
Again, please go to #wov-chat if you do not have any clear suggestion.
Email verification has been declined by Philipp even though we already discussed with him about it, so please don't try again to bring this question back.
Also, @vivid blaze, I'm sorry but I have to inform you that you're not being nice. Please stay calm, saying stuff like "you're looking for lame excuses"and the like just isn't okay.
vivid blaze
@runic dragon use commonsense. This is a phone game and when people use phone their browsers are logged in with their accs. Only the biggest of the biggest useless people would waste their time to log out of their accs, then make a new email acc, then go to ww to make new acc and then again verify it by email. So yes this system would reduce the amount. Obviously there is not a permanent fix but that doesn't mean that you're not gonna do anything about it.
And by not trying to make an effort towards fixing something you're just supporting the gamethrowing community
And the fact that you say that its easy to make a new email makes it seem like you're so useless and have tried it yourself to make new fake accs lol xD not being rude but its just funny lol
quaint bramble
@vivid blaze heya, we have talked about this exact thing quite a few times before. And I aksed you to stop harassing our staff team about it.
I have explained that we did what we can, to make the devs aware of it, and i have shown you his exact replies.
runic dragon
@vivid blaze They just read the ideas and post it in #feedback-devs if it's a good idea and wasn't suggested before. And your idea was suggested before, they can't do nothing if that idea was rejected by a Dev.
Wanna keep talking in #wov-chat ?
quaint bramble
We can't do anything about it beyond that. So please stop complaining about it and argueing with staff.
Either contact Philipp about it youreself, or just stop.
vivid blaze
lastly, @uncut tusk Nobody cares if its been declined by philipp. If devs have declined it they can expect such feedback to come again and again. Coz users are annoyed
Have fun. Bye
quaint bramble
if you are gonna come in here with this exact same drama, you will be getting a mute. You've had enough verbal warns about this now.
vivid blaze
If you're gonna mute and ignore people who are trying to help you, then well done. Please try to understand what 'feedback' means. And especially 'major feedback'. If our problems aren't being answered we have the right to complain. Sorry if I was rude today but I was seriously pissed off with things that happened to me today in the game. If u wanna mute me go ahead I literally don't care but just remember if you do you too will know that I had the right points and suggestions towards helping you. Tc bye
quaint bramble
@vivid blaze I have already acknowledged that I agree with your idea, but now it is time for you to acknowledge that we realy did what we can about it, and that further complaining and being rude to staff will not change anything about it.
sand dome
shhhh don't stoke the flames my boi Magi
meager gyro
@runic dragon @sand dome It's already being handled ^^
runic dragon
Idea: A limit to the amount of people who can be converted by zombies/sect. The zombies/sect could only convert a set amount of people (4-5) and cant convert past that. This adds balance to zombies/sect + avoids grinding games based around converting.
sudden dock
Im not sure if anyone responded to this but the winner of each game should have there name in gold at the end of the game, as reward of emphasis on their name!
fallen rock
@runic dragon This is not very useful as there are rarely more than 5 peoples converted
@sudden dock The game is over and the other players are leaving so don't see it
runic dragon
Usually they convert more as people died, but my suggestion doesnt allow that
Making it harder for solo converters to win
fallen rock
I think it's hard enough to win with
sudden dock
They might, i look at the end of games like if you want to add someone to be their friend
fallen rock
People often do it during the game
lament knoll
@fallen rock not rly,,, zombie is a guaranteed win if it doesn't die first day there basically is 0 challenge
Solo converters are easy wins, especially with zombies
Solo killers are hard
And there should be a difference between converters and killers in difficulty of course but right now it's a tad too huge as solo killers is depending on set up nearly impossible sometimes and solo converters is usually an easy win
@runic dragon well in general there has been alot of suggestions about how to nerf zombies already
This one is about sl too tho and by doing a quick research i couldn't find a suggestion like that
Only one kind of similar one from a year ago so i guess i might give it a litte repost as it's a pretty good idea
Thanks for your contribution 
patent marsh
Hi, where can I report people here?
lament knoll
@sudden dock heyyy
I couldnt find this having been suggested before and it's a pretty cute idea, if only a little visual add-on it could still be cool ^^
~~i usually add and report at the end of the game and i think atleast some people do so too so that could be a nice perk which is worth being voted on imo
patent marsh
I was playing and the gunslinger randomly shoots us who had skins
sudden dock
cool! Thank you!
lament knoll
@patent marsh you sadly cannot report people here,, you should report them in-game
You can report people on discord to a guardian with proof if it's about harassment/sexual harassment and/or racism only
willow plover
Draft pick mode
When a match starts, vote one of pool random role to ban (either rrv , rsv , rw , rk or random). Default duration is 30 secs. After ban, vote at least one of the pool random role (like rrv choosen pacifist, rsv choosen seer,etc.)
Maybe i suggest this in ranked and custom or added sandbox draft pick mode
runic dragon
Maybe add some whats new screen after an update
Or some page where you can find news or something
drowsy yarrow
how about a programme that takes into account the total amount of Gold people donate and devite it with the total amount of quest they participate and if is higher than a minimum amount of gold they can participate in the quest. like this "if (3000 total gold donation) / (6 total quest participate + next quest) = 500g then π "
sharp holly
When you are a rrv you should be informed you are the rrv (like when the wheel stops spinning, it stops on random regular villager, but when the wheel disappear it shows you the role you turn into)
unkempt junco
I have 2 suggestions:
- Put a tick on the clan-quest-icon when the clan quest is finished each stage
- Put the name of the game mode we are playing here
opaque pollen
@unkempt junco I like the game mode one! I was in Quick Play with a peep and expected Sandbox
opaque pollen
That seems a bug 
unkempt junco
Ye
sand dome
I think those should've made into separate suggestions since one may like the first but not like the other
They're forced to vote up or down on both
opaque pollen
Votes don't particularly matter
sand dome
Oh, they don't? I figured devs pay attention to em and weigh it in as a big part when making the decision
opaque pollen
The Developers pick what they like
So-so 
I like that it feels like acknowledgement
sand dome
Fair pointπ
quaint bramble
It's also an option to add 1β£ and 2β£ as voting, instead of thumbs, if that fits the situation ^^
queen surge
Hey! Is it possible for those who leave clan and come back, for their xp to be returned? And not from 0xp? I know the gold is restored but not xp
dim narwhal
We'd like to know if a role is rrv/rsv/rww/rsk
People would be less confused and not risk claiming rrv when they are not
quaint bramble
Esp in ranked i feel like people ought to know their role could be a non-rrv one too
runic dragon
Add in med night chat that message "Night # has started" it's kinda confused read the info of everyday all together (At least for me)
This is how we actually see it π
When there's many people talking at night you don't know where's the new info, with "Night has # Started" at least you know where you should start reading
warped forge
Yeah true cuz sometimes the ded will speak in the morning
dreamy lion
@runic dragon Alright you got me before asking what would be the use of this feature, and in my opinion it actually makes sense, since he has a whole night chat for himself which could indeed be a little more spammy than the werewolves one considering that many dead players keep on talking/commenting the game, you might end up missing some important info meanwhile, it wasnβt added in #feedback-devs yet, so Iβm posting it, thanks a lot for suggesting 
crisp summit
quaint bramble
@crisp summit Excuse me, how does this fit in the feedback channel?
You might want to try again in #meme
crisp summit
Itβs a suggestion for a new person in game
normal wyvern
@crisp summit new roles -> #role-ideas-readonly
crisp summit
I tried that once but people kept sending me here
So Iβm confused
Do I go to meme? Role ideas? Stay here? I dunno
normal wyvern
Okay
Serious suggestions:
To add something in the game or to change a role -> #feedback-readonly
Suggestion for a new role -> #role-ideas-readonly
Suggestions for a new skin -> #avatar-ideas
quaint bramble
nice
normal wyvern
sorry
quaint bramble
You got my approval, that was an almost identical message π
normal wyvern
runic dragon
Halloween mode:
Werewolf Berserk
Werewolf Nightmare
Werewolf Seer
Werewolf Alpha
Witch
Medium
Fool/Hh
Seer
Detective
Grumpy Grandma
Cursed
Doctor
Bodyguard
Red Lady
Zombie
Serial Killer
compact mist
To many killers
quaint bramble
solo killerand solo converter in one game π€
runic dragon
Thats called s a n d b o x mode
quaint bramble
Sandbox mode is never like that, it still follows a regular setup format
compact mist
Its 7 up to 8 evil role against 8 up to 9 good roles villige should normaly not win it
left bloom
1 killer and 1 solo voting
But worth a try for getting that 
But let me calculate how it balancing
compact mist
I know its wrong chanel here but can we get more player for Im no Demon? Servers are always very empty and the most I meet are ww online players (thats why I write here)
Even Mostly not enough players to start a game
quaint bramble
I think #off-topic or the sandbox server would be the best place for that
in fact a few people were just talking about it in OT
unkempt junco
we have sandbox server?
quaint bramble
yeah, check #community-announcements
it's not really wwo related though, its mostly about other games made by our devs as far as I know
left bloom
Not balanced
unkempt junco
Yep
left bloom
Well. That setup was like too buffed ww and killers
left bloom
I calculate the balance point and It's like this (reference balance point is from ultimate ww or ww cardgame)
sum up and negative = Advantage for werewolves and solo killers (not zombie and sl)
runic dragon
@unkempt junco Sandbox mode
runic dragon
If a gunner shoots a villager he should loose his second shoot
runic dragon
No I mean these layouts were in sandbox mode
peak knot
Current state of my ranked comp research
8/10 hh arso games tested
Village winrate : 100%
Ww winrate: 0%
Solo winrate: 0%
My prediction is village will win the rest of the reference matches too. 32 to go.
sharp holly
When a player gets the random regular villager role (or any other random role) the spinning wheel that picks the players' role should first show that they got the rrv role, then shows what role it actually is
compact mist
A clever player knows when he is rrv without showing it
runic dragon
^
woeful mesa
When a spectator speaks and then leaves, we can t know who it was, I think the name should stay even if tve spectator isn t here anymore
rigid bronze
That may be a bug tho
Idrk
@woeful mesa may I have your game version + device please ?
runic dragon
@rigid bronze So actually there's a feature that when the Spectator leaves the name should stay in the player list? π€
rigid bronze
Oh π
woeful mesa
@rigid bronze 0.38.2 and samsung s8^^
rigid bronze
π
zinc niche
what about a night chat for sect and cupid + couple?
runic dragon
@zinc niche it was suggested before and rejected because in the couple can be Jailer/Med/Werewolves that they has habilites at the night and already should talk in 2 chats, add one chat more would be hard to handle to those roles
zinc niche
it would make winning with sect or couple a LOT easier though
since you can then just negotiate what to do next
like if one of the coupled persons is seer you can tell him during night that youβre good even though youβre bad
so heβll say (for example) 14 good
while youβre bad
runic dragon
And if you one of them is med you can't handle Death Chat, Couple Chat and maybe pretype to Day chat
runic dragon
What did I understood @.jojolapin78 means is that the spectator's name should stay in the Players list even when Spectator leaves.
He didn't meant it so I want to become it in a feedback
ββ
If a spectator do hate Speech and leaves there's not way of report them, so:
The Spectator's profile shouldn't dissapear when he leaves so we can report them in the case he do something against the rules
I don't know if the option to report Spectator is already there tho
silver jetty
change the colour of the "ok" button since u can barely see the "ok"π
nvm its a bug
rigid bronze
@runic dragon good idea, Imma add it to #feedback-devs !
runic dragon
I want to add something to this feedback:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/635427172600774657
If a game has a lot of spectators (join and leave , etc) , the bar would be flooded ahhhhh
So I guess their profile will disappear within 30 seconds after they left , and the fact that they left will be announced in the top of the Spectator bar.
wet sedge
I propose that we can save a skin t after if you change skin you can put back the saved skin
runic dragon
@wet sedge I think there's the same or similar Suggestion in #feedback-devs .
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/469510102106243072
β That's the link to the Feedback if you want to vote with a 
If some helper add the addition of @.Magi#8735 I also wanna add that there should be a limit of Spectator to the room don't get crash or I don't know what can happen with many spectators π€
Let's make a combination then
Or add it as new feedback if you think its Good
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
When coupled and playing with sect leader,
You should be able to see if your lover is sected. Like you can with zombie.
I was ww, we tried to kill SL, and I died because my lover was sected.
@runic dragon It was suggested before and rejected because if you know your couple is in sect you also know you can't win with your couple and then your goal wouldn't be try win as Couple anymore
flint atlas
When you nightmare someone, and want to delete your nightmare. The game gives the warning message that you can only nightmare 2 people a game if you click on the same person that you nightmared before. Make it so of you click on the same person, the warning screen doesn't pop up
normal wyvern
You can decide if you want to see this or not. ^^
You should see your name in the member details as pink or bold as you would in the donation list to make it clearer where you are in the list.
silver jetty
again here thenπ
so when you open the "My Account" menu and then not change anything the "ok" button is gray. But you can barely read it. I think it should be a bit more easy to read.
normal wyvern
If you've made 250 wins with a role in Achievements, you should get a small reward for making it with that role. Maybe with a small foreground or background item to unlock. But it should only be possible once that you get this item as if you gave someone a gift. There you also get something unique as a reward. ^^
runic dragon
@silver jetty I think its fine like that, that colour means that you're not able of press there π€
Once you modify your name you can see the "Ok" without problems
rigid bronze
Pfiu so...
@runic dragon and @runic dragon there is already a 20 spectators limit, so I don't think that such an anti flood system would really help, but keep that in mind when the spec mode will be more common and if there are similar problems
@wet sedge that was already suggested in multiple ways but thanks for your feedback 
@normal wyvern very useful, thanks for suggesting I will add it in #feedback-devs !
@normal wyvern I also agree but rewards for achievements were already suggested so I don't think it really deserves a repost for now π thankies !
To the ones I haven't answered, the replied that were already given are okay and fit what I think about it :)
normal wyvern
Thanks! 
runic dragon
Oh didn't know there was already a limit, thx for clear it
rigid bronze
ornate sun
could I propose to remove loot box from the rose wheel?
one spin=25 coins per rose x30 roses =750 coins
cost of 1 lootbox in shop = $1.49(SGD)
cost of 600 coins in shop = $7.48
the difference is too big, and the amount of coins I'd get from a lootbox isn't as much as 200 which is the biggest on the wheel[usually]
rigid bronze
That was talked with the Devs already and they wanted the rose wheel not to be a very op thing but a casual thing which you can get disappointed of
Even though, I think it needs a rediscussion
π€
thin dome
Can we move the Free Gold over here? Every time I leave after finishing a game, I accidentally click too much and I hit the Free Gold button..
runic dragon
but then when you want to click settings / friends you click accidentally on free gold
runic dragon
I agree with Julius on this one ^-^
I already press to much on setting when I want to check my friends ):
thin dome
Then it can be moved somewhere else I just donβt feel that there is a need for it on the home page. I think it would fit better in inventory or shop
Plus, yβall arenβt mods or helpers
rigid bronze
They are allowed to give their thoughts as well π there is already a free gold button in the inventory, but even with that, I'm pretty sure they won't remove it because it's much more easier and clear where it is now
median elbow
The censorship is very op. Vomit, Maximum and Analyze get censored. ***** ****mum, ****yze.
Yet offensive insults like ass and fag are not censored. But basic insults like jerk is censored.
sinful flicker
If I'm watching an ad, I have to watch it for about 200 seconds βΉοΈ
night path
200 seconds oh dear 
. That's just bad luck im afraid! @sinful flicker
ive had it once too, just try and get a diff ad?
sinful flicker
I'll try, I had it 2 times now, this is so annoying π
night path
awwh, badluck xD
lament knoll
@median elbow as far as i am concerned "ass" is indeed censored, we usually get a fair amount of players complaining about it being censored
In case of harder insults it would of course be good to be censored but then again if it is censored no one would report them for harassment so they get a fair punishment for what they did
On the other hand again,,, if they wanna insult they often search a way to bypass it with making it in.sult or lnsult instead of i an lower case L which looks like a capital i
Anyhow,,, i'll give it a look if it has been suggested before and might post it if concerns you alot
Tho i think the devs are frequently on finding solutions to auto punish people which insult others
Also yeah about the ads,,, it depends on your advertiser
Wwo cant control which ads you'll get to watch and sometimes ur lucky with 10 second ads and sometimes just pretty unlucky which those long ones
I never had such a long one thoπ lucky me i guess 
normal wyvern
The mini-games should have the current backgrounds as in the main menu. This way the feeling of the backgrounds is partly taken away from me...
glacial warren
@normal wyvern you are right π€ even if the background won't stay that long, I will post it in #feedback-devs 
thank you for your feedback 
normal wyvern
Thank you very much!
quaint bramble
@sinful flicker Heya if this problem with really long ads keeps happening, it might be a bug and reinstalling the game could help against it. If it still happens after that, please report it in #bugs-readonly π
median elbow
@lament knoll so that means if I do a.nalyzed I could get ban one day? Or even max.imum
quaint bramble
Since those are regular words in that combination, I think it wouldnt be bannable
but if you use that trick for actual bad words then that's not ok
open panther
Could you make the seer an unknown aura instead of good, because aura is basically a nerfed seer and that might make it a bit more fair
fallen rock
It's different roles, she's less strong but there can be several
glacial warren
@open panther only roles which have something to do with dead have unknown aura. Villager are good. Gunner is unknown, because he kills same for bh and witch
drowsy yarrow
make it so we can see rose history at the end of the match
fallen rock
I had thought about it too, it's a great idea
vernal dune
@drowsy yarrow Its a possible idea, i'll add it to #feedback-devs!
weary hull
Why can't the game make it so that we can't play the same role twice? Like if we've played priest in one game we can't play it in the next
glacial warren
@weary hull because the roles are supposed to be random ^w^ like this nobody can know if you have the same role again (if you are in the same game again)
weary hull
Ah okay
sudden dock
you should get coins from the selfie stick if you already have it
If i had a dime for every time i put in a selfie stick code when i already had the selfie stick i would have 3 dimes
I would have given it away to my clan π₯
glacial warren
@sudden dock basically you already get gold for items you get again. The amount of gold is pinned in #questions
sudden dock
I don't think you get it for selfie sticks, i haven't gained any
night path
if you can, but censor it partially ^^
night path
so if you were saying the "b" word then you would type B**ch
drowsy yarrow
F****t
pallid steppe
Its really annoying for dutch people that βhoorβ is censored
quaint bramble
@pallid steppe Well we cant uncensor them in one language and censor it in another... and it does have a good reason to remain censored.
It's also really not an important word to use at all, and can be easily avoided
cyan epoch
quaint bramble
Whats your reason for hiding rose sending?
And Im saying no to changing skins during the game, there is no reason for that and it woud be distracting imo
@cyan epoch
night path
@quaint bramble to add onto their suggestion. Roses against the screen can be distracting and sometimes lags my game
quaint bramble
roses sent when dead are already not shown
fervent pecan
This does not look like it belongs in the Mouth section. It looks more like a mask. Suggestion to place it back to where it was.
quaint bramble
@night path yeah i was wondering if thats what it was about or not, but it doesnt seem to be ^^
You can post that to fb-devs yourself though :)
runic dragon
@fervent pecan it was suggested and posted in #feedback-devs before
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/634659970373255169
π There's the link to the feedback if you wanna vote it
quaint bramble
It looks like a rabbit snouth with mouth so I can understand why it;s there too tbh
runic dragon
I think more than "move" to mask section should be in both sections
vivid blaze
It just keeps getting better and better.... what do we do about a wolf seer who deliberately doesn't check anyone? Do we like report him or something?
fallen rock
If you ed sure it's voluntary they have to report it for gamethrowing, next time it's in #questions you have to ask
quaint bramble
Agreed it can be reported for gamethrowing but keep in mind there's also bugs that make the result flash pink instead of showing role, usually with bad connection for example
And #questions is the best place to ask questions ^^
fallen rock
Have the ability to get rewards in game with discord depending on the level
For exemple :
Level 10 = 500gold
Level 20 = An exclusive T-shirt
.....
Level 50 = Discord badge
This would create a link between discord and WWO
Values and rewards are given as an example
fallen rock
It's an exampleπ
rigid bronze
π
quaint bramble
I'm gonna say no thanks... we already have so much in-game reward systems like the daily rewards, BP, gold wheel, clan quests.
And it;s an unfair advantage to everyone who uses discord, and everyone thats already been here for a while.
And dont you think it miiiight encourage spam and other sorts of mischief here even more..?
rigid bronze
If it's based on MEE6 level, spam isn't really a thing
fallen rock
The mee6 system is designed against spam
quaint bramble
And yet it's a guarantee that people would post nonsense every single minute just to farm that stuff anyway
latent marsh
I have a question: If you're coupled and then you're either sected or turned into a zombie, which team do you play for?
quaint bramble
if you can still try to win as couple, you can go for it, though its usually almost impossible then.
But generally speaking, your newest team is the one you play as, zombie/secting happens later than being coupled, so those become your new goal
Nxt time you should post this in #questions by the way :)
median elbow
this does not relate to clan quest at all
How about simple personal quest/challenges that change weekly. The game could provide 5 random quest and the 5 quest could give a random clothing item, tailsman, a rose. This could even make everything obtainable, including past items and purchasable store items. I'm sure there a lot of people that want to get my personal favorite item, the pumpkin head, and others should be able to obtain these items legitimately without needing to buy them. The quest don't even need to be easy.
Challenge/quest examples:
Play 10/20/50 games in a row
Win as a solo killer
Collect 10k xp
Kill 100 players as a werewolf
Kill 30 players as a solo
Win 100 games
Win 5 games in a row
Etc.
craggy dagger
@silver ruin I think diverter is a very good role, especially because itβs one use. Itβs also a really solid fakeclaim for wolves so you get a double from me
wide creek
I feel like the game shouldnβt dock exp from you because you have a bad connection
Like the last I game I just played, I had a bad connection so I wasnβt keeping up with the chat (to others I would have shown as offline at this time), and I was given reduced exp (lost 25% of it to be exact)
In my mind thatβs unfair, because my team did still win the game
And I was an active participant in said game, though my connection wasnβt the strongest
So I feel I should still have full exp for that game
runic dragon
@median elbow That will also make grinding bigger if you get items for your examples
median elbow
@runic dragon my examples will also boost the games activity as well. And it doesn't need to be the purchasable items. But it would be nice if they were more obtainable
runic dragon
True but i think this wont come into the game since there are many grinder
When someone sends you a rose I think there should be a button over their avatar to give back a rose just to make life a little easier
median elbow
I'm a grinder myself
quaint bramble
@wide creek Im sorry but I dont think its possible for the game to distinguish between 'bad connection' inactivity and people being offline for other reasons.
People who spend that much time offline usually dont contribute well enough to deserve the full xp, but either way its not a very big penalty either, if you do genuinely have a connection problem
@runic dragon I think that can get annoying really quickly, maybe i dont wanna give them a rose back and then that icon is there..
or someone might abuse it by rose-spamming you so you get distracted with the icon in your face as well
@median elbow This sort of extra quests and achievements have been suggested so often, and the devs have made it clear they dont really wanna add another reward system.
Making old BP items re-obtainable is a very controversial topic too. A lot of older players will feel like they deserved these items and that they should remain exclusive. Thats the nature of BP's... its not fair to take away that exclusivity from them now. Even though I would like some of those items too, I disagree that it should be added.
minor linden
I donβt think aura seer should be rv, I just got in a game with 3 aura seers...
runic dragon
Ok yeah I see your point it can get annoying pretty easily
minor linden
It was ranked too, 1 Det and 3 Auras
quaint bramble
we already got a few feedbacks posted to limit this, but for now it;s random.., they could be 3 forkmen too and then you wouldnt complain as a wolf right
And with 3 rrv auras there is so much info and confusion, you can still use that in your advantage and get them killed quicker
light edge
Countdowns to play ranked together with friends are annoying.
How about we get a
"Join lobby with friends"
option for ranked pls?
A small tick box
when your current game ended to stay together easier
Or a little box to cross out before you press play.
It starts when 2/3 of this waiting lobby presses start (or the waiting lobby is full).
You and your waiting lobby will get added to an empty ranked lobby or they fill a lobby up together.
Sadly cheating is possible with a game mode like this but at least they cheat together and don't throw real games. You can even make a hard cap of 12 players max using this option
runic dragon
First... rank aint to play with friends π
Make a "Play with friends" to rank will start a massive teaming I guess
light edge
Play with friends means play with people in your skill range/ smart people.
Most want interesting games. Even friends are competitive. And if they want to team they can team easily as well (in current ranked set up)
Playing with friends doesn't mean teaming π
runic dragon
The most of the times they don't check/kill someone for the fact of be them friends, there's already people that use 2/3 accounts to play rank, imagin a play with friends π€
Can be that you don't do teaming but they can't prevent that another people don't do it
light edge
There are friendly alliances. But you only see the worst side of the coin here.
The cap of 12 players is to always have 4 other people in game. so they can report teamers if needed.
Well it was just a thought π
runic dragon
They rejected many ideas for the fact that "Rank isn't to play with friends" so I don't think they will consider it
Im also saying my thoughts
@light edge "But at least they cheat together and don't throw real games" Even if they through together or in real games they would do making SP faster than who don't do cheat π
π That, there are already people that join in a "Play with friends" invite all them friends, all the wolves reveal themselves and do like 200 XP each 3 minutes.
It's basically the same would happen if you add a "Play with friends" in rank
Invite all your friends join in rank and even if there's 4 spots free as you said, they just "Vote for starts" and there wouldn't be noone to report them
Also π
normal jungle
** Fool will not win if his lover died with him**
Recently someone who was random gave fake info even tho we had one seer, the info was to kill 2 and since we were werewolfs and the cannibal suicided there was no way 2 is bad unless 12 was fool and lying
What happened is really funny
12 was lover with 2 so he knew he was fool and suggested we vote him so fool win which is clearly teaming up and unfair to use lovers perk as an extra chance for fool...
left bloom
Well. Fool actually doesn't win too
normal jungle
He just did
left bloom
Pop-up showed he won
hollow pike
hmm
left bloom
But win rate is decreased
hollow pike
Well 12 just threw it then, it's not like his couple partner won.
His coupler partner most likely made a mistake IMHO
dusk silo
this server has amazing staff
hollow pike
Right, so 12 lost. 12 perhaps thought he would win for some reason
normal jungle
Then shouldn't the game end with tie or just continue?
hollow pike
Agreed. Fool had to have won, otherwise it would have been a tie. Someone won.
runic dragon
I thin what he means is even if fool win the Victory wont be add to his %Win Rate π€
That's unfair tho
@hollow pike
Fool only wins if he is lynched. When he's the last one alive, he was not lynched so he cannot win. But in that case, Village's winning conditions are satisfied : All solo killers and Wws died. So Village should win.
lament knoll
In #questions either
runic dragon
@patent marsh if you mean where you can ask anything, you can go to #questions
Welp
lament knoll
Here is for game suggestions
runic dragon
Sorry didn't saw u typing 
lament knoll
dont worry haha
patent marsh
Ok thx
hollow pike
@runic dragon The screen shot shows the fool winning. Not sure what you mean.
runic dragon
@hollow pike He was explaining about if everyone dies except fool the victory is for Villagers team
Wasn't about what we were talking at all tho, I guess he misunderstood something π€
hollow pike
I figured as much, thank you
It happens, people get confused. happens to me a lot lol
lapis drum
Yea cuz there are at least 3 wolves alive there with fool being voted out so fool rightfully won. 12 just threw it, possibly thinking they would win along w/ fool.
woven plover
It will be cool to be able To sell your talisman since I have so many and they're unwanted( I don't need that much Doc talisman for example) For roses or coins or something
runic dragon
@woven plover It was suggested and posted in #feedback-devs before
woven plover
Okay
runic dragon
There's the link to the feedback in #feedback-devs
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/602265437438345216 π
woeful mesa
I never saw a feedback with so much down vote compared to upvotes, aka the last feedback devs lmao
zinc niche
why canβt hh win with village anymore??
my target was 7 I think but he died like first round
it still says village or solo
runic dragon
@zinc niche I suggest you to post it in #bugs-readonly
zinc niche
so it is a bug?
runic dragon
I don't know but also isn't a feedback ^^
Also if you have some other questions you can ask it in #questions
runic dragon
@faint nymph Hey here noone is racist ^^, and I suggest you to ask it again in #questions
faint nymph
Ok thank's
sturdy epoch
i really like the art in ww online well done its really good
runic dragon
@sturdy epoch it is π
if you haven't feedbacks and just wanna talk you can go to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic to talk about something else
rigid bronze
That can be considered as a feedback ^Β°^ @runic dragon
runic dragon
It is? π
rigid bronze
Just thanks him, and it's okay as long as they don't talk here
rigid bronze
Don't worry, I understand it is misleading
runic dragon
Yeh I just translated the word "Feedback" to my language and now I have a better idea about what does it means. ||I thought it mean suggest things to the game be better ||. Thanks for correcting me
sudden dock
Im not allowed to send images?
Whatever... the spooky gravestone that come with the ghost clan quest is a little big
hearty drum
@sudden dock Hey, your mean is event Halloween π ? I see event Halloween did add it to clan quest and some items in shop are sold with roses and gold 
sudden dock
The clan quest
hearty drum
@sudden dock Oh I know π
sudden dock
The gravestone from the ghost clan quest looks a little big. It says i am not allowed to send images because of explicit content but i don't know why
@hearty drum
hearty drum
@sudden dock I know it ^^ I will reconsider, also thank you for feedback 
hearty drum
@sudden dock Yes, I know π
sudden dock
Ok haha
vestal knoll
Hello
hearty drum
@vestal knoll Hey, this is not chat channel ^^ If you want give idea to the game, you can give idea to this channel, If you want chat with people pls go to #off-topic or #wov-chat or channel your language π
meager fjord
Heyy so I was thinking that maybe you should allow couples to talk to each other? Because I was Red Lady and coupled with seer but I didn't want to visit anyone in case I died and caused seer to die. So I think it is better for couples to be able to communicate. So if maybe RL and WW coupled the WW can warn the RL to not visit who they are killing or something like that? Or would that be considered teaming?
Also, I think that when one of the couple suicide, the other player who was coupled should get another random couple?
abstract rampart
I would propose a balance. Premetted that I have 100 hours of play and that I really like this game. The main problem with the game is that wolves are at a distinct disadvantage to the village. The normal wolf is depressing and without any power and should be replaced by the shaman wolf. The alpha wolf has a double vote but as he follows what the visionary wolf tells him his double vote becomes useless. The alpha wolf should always be replaced by the wolf guardian who is most useful. Having said that, I would remove the possibility for the Serial Killer to kill wolves the first night because there are only 4 wolves and if one dies the first night it becomes impossible to win. To balance the village I would remove the cursed citizen (the wolves with the changes I proposed became stronger) and I would keep two mediums to guarantee at least a resurrection if a medium is killed the first night. With this I don't want you to take literally what I say but rather to balance the wolves who win only if they are lucky and the village has poor players or those who go offline.
rigid bronze
The problem with that @meager fjordis if one of the lover has another chat during nights (werewolf or zombies for exemple) :/
@abstract rampart Most of the roles you mention are still in Sandbox (aka test phase) so they can't really replace alpha for now etc, but don't worry, Devs know that werewolves are really weaker than village and that's why the new roles are made (mostly), they all are good for the werewolves :)
meager fjord
@rigid bronze yea but you know how the ww/zombie chat has an icon to show the village day chat? But can't send anything there at night? Maybe another icon can be added for the couples chat, but they are able to talk there. Then the lover in ww/zombie can switch between the two.
rigid bronze
I know that it was already suggested and denied... I'm sorry @meager fjord
meager fjord
Oh ok thanks for letting me know.
How about the one where a couple gets another random couple when the original one suicided?
fallen rock
Why notπ€·ββοΈ
rigid bronze
Not really cuz imagine :
- Werewolf 1 is coupled with jailer
- Seer says werewolf 1 is bad
- Jailer suicides
- Werewolf 1 get coupled with seer
meager fjord
But... why not? I don't really see any problem in that except for a little karma?
weary hull
Then seer would just have to find a way to take back what they said. Ww is a game of brains, and this would be an interesting way to really highlight that
charred kiln
Idk bout it
Its indeed gay when ur couple suicides
But getting another couple kinda doesnt fit into the game
rigid bronze
Gay ? π
charred kiln
What
left bloom
still have sexist people 
charred kiln
?
rigid bronze
"it's indeed gay*
rigid bronze
I don't get the meaning of it π
left bloom
same π
charred kiln
Okay good
left bloom
Well. A bit homophobic.. Some people doesnt like that at all
left bloom
Fine fine. But I think it's too rude for public
charred kiln
Ok then
woeful mesa
from mentor chat:
Suggestion: A role that can switch other players roles around
light crane
I also thought about a "crazy cupid" that has the ability to change his couple
But that belongs so role suggestions I guess
fallen rock
This could create dysfunction @woeful mesa
woeful mesa
well in the original game, too, I'm just the link from game to discord here anyway^^
uncut tusk
@woeful mesa Heya ^^ Role swapping isn't allowed in #role-ideas-readonly ;) But thanks!
woeful mesa
okay thanks for the answer^^
uncut tusk
You're welcome π
normal wyvern
This Skin is from Minamelie and Shaii and not from Squishy and Shaii..
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/586476350072946698
rigid bronze
@normal wyvern I guess you should contact Kem
normal wyvern
Okay, I will. Thank you
rigid bronze
Ye :)
normal wyvern
normal wyvern
If you search for a specific author of skins, a search bar would make it much easier. This would be easily accessible in the Voting Gallery history and so it would be easier and faster to search for certain skins that might not have been in #dev-vote.
rigid bronze
Well good idea, but it could lead to downvote/upvote focus even more easier :/
runic dragon
I still think ge gallery should get her own button in one of these two
And why is there two times roles π
I don't think the gallery be frecuently used to have her own button π€
The fact that there are 2 "roles" is weird, yes. π€
runic dragon
But maybe its not frecentuetly usen cause it has no button
π
I mean i doesent even say what this place is if you tap the rocket
Just this with no info or anything
and there is no skip button
The Skip Button isn't there because you didn't vote yet
You should be allowed to search by author
And choose not to vote on outfits
@runic dragon it was suggested before and Kem said it wouldn't be great because people only will search Knows Designer and the New Designers would not be seen
why do i have to vote to go to the next
Ok then skip votes
Cause its almost impossible to find my own designs
Once you voted all the outfit there appears a skip button π€
really?
Oh
Yes
You shouldnt have to vote in the first place to see your recent votes
Or past votes tho
Still nothing explains for what we voting
If we are not on discord tho
normal wyvern
What do you mean?
runic dragon
And why do i need a skip button after i voted? Thats kinda dumb
@runic dragon also the search bar is to see your previous votes on a specific persons designs
Not to only vote on them
Duden can i explain it in dm to you?
in german thats easier
normal wyvern
@rigid bronze I saw your answer now. It should only possible in the history of the voting gallery. You can only look in the voting gallery if you vote already all skins.. so I don't see any problem there
@runic dragon Sure
runic dragon
Still shud let you skip the votes straight to ur history
normal wyvern
Okay, I talked with Eliot and here are our final suggestions
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It's hard to know for people, specially non-discord-user, what the voting gallery is. Maybe put an answer, what the voting gallery actually is, in the FAQ or make it like Sandbox: When you click on the icon, they will show you a small box where it explain what the voting gallery is.
-
It's hard to find out where the voting gallery is. We created two alternatives to put the voting gallery in. If more people would know how to enter the voting gallery, more people would vote, tbh.
a) Put a small icon in the inventory. Maybe on the right-side because their is actually some space for it.
b) Put the voting gallery in the menu, where you can see the rules, etc. when you click on the blue questionmark. -
It should be able to skip skins when you don't want to vote them. At the moment you need to vote something which you may don't like to see the next one. I prefer a skip more than a 1/5 stars rating.
median elbow
Make people that are "off" unrevivable so people in quick playe stop reviving an offline seer
normal wyvern
@median elbow Should be complicated with connection problems
runic dragon
isnt there a notification that the player is offline when they revive?
glacial warren
Sure!
So about the first one, yes I agree, that the voting gallery should be mentioned somewhere, but I'm not sure, if it should be in the FAQ... It's not really something they ask. Maybe it's a good idea to add the little "hint box" if you click on the little rocked in the inventory.
I'm pretty sure, if you join the game the first time and still have the hint dots, it leads you to the voting gallery.
Now because I already answered the second... Kinda xD
The button on the home screen or somewhere else, which leads to the voting gallery is s nice idea ^^ same goes for the other idea. If someone would see it, they maybe just click to see what it does 
I really like the third one too. I think it has been suggested before, but since it's part of the whole feedback, I will post it in #feedback-devs π do you DVD anything to add and should I ping you both? @normal wyvern
normal wyvern
I would say pinging both because the main ideas came from Eliot and I helped him. But it's his decision @runic dragon
runic dragon
Idc just ping duden π
normal wyvern
β€
runic dragon
Let me test one thing for a sec
It doesent lead you to any of these if you make a new acc
π
glacial warren
Hmmm interestingπ okay... And your answer?
runic dragon
My answer?π
glacial warren
Ping only you or you both?
runic dragon
Ok
glacial warren
XD?
normal wyvern
glacial warren
Okay... Thank you for your suggestion 
runic dragon
Tried it again but this time nothing is shown with a dot π
quaint bramble
I am pretty sure, that game settings like showing the hint dots is info that is stored locally on your device
which means that it keeps those settings from your main account ^^
runic dragon
Well then i need to get a second phone π
quaint bramble
That or hop on an emulator on pc or something, yeah ^^
normal wyvern
Well, I reinstalled the game today.. No dots ^^'
runic dragon
Or i tap this
SO this is kinda useless but the Inventory either doesent reset or there is really no hint at the inventory
So i would either make dots there or make a inventory reset π
But both useless
median elbow
@normal wyvern what's so complicated with disabling revives for people that are off/quit/suicide. You can't revive a werewolf.
normal wyvern
Yea but what is if someone has a connection problem and is turned as off even he isn't?
median elbow
Then they don't get revived... simple.
uncut tusk
A bit unfair for them tbh
normal wyvern
^
median elbow
I thought the random "offline people voting" bug stopped
normal wyvern
And you already get a notfication if someone is off
Sometimes you are shown as off bc connection problem
median elbow
People appear off but are actually on.. thay stopped right?
normal wyvern
This kind of bug still can happen but it's fixed at least. Connection problems can't be fixed like that
median elbow
If they are having connections problems then they are a lost cause I guess. I wouldn't revive someone offline already
uncut tusk
I think everyone should be able to choose whether to revive an offline player or not. You can't know, maybe it's just a short temporary connection issue...
vivid blaze
Just saying. Today I encountered a gamethrower and we all said to report him. But he responded "Report me all u want I have fake accs anyways". So yeah..... Another example of this non-effective reporting system.
fallen rock
Offers another system, knowing that ban ip is prohibited
runic dragon
we already know it @vivid blaze
vivid blaze
I did offer an effective system suggestion @fallen rock which didn't involve ip ban. But if you've followed the chat recently you'll understand the reason why I won't talk about it here again lol
runic dragon
you know also after you got told like 5 times that the devs dont like it
vivid blaze
How about finding a way to display that 'You cannot play or make new accounts until this ban is over'? Or would this still count as an ip ban?
And @runic dragon That suggestion is factually effective and everybody else likes it except devs. Anyways no point in going over the same argument I think everyone knows who's fault it is anyways.
quaint bramble
@runic dragon heya from what I can see, Knightwolf is not here to talk about that topic exactly, so no need to drag it up again..
@vivid blaze I've been told Guardians do have ways of seeing if someone has multiple accounts, and that they would ban all of them + longer than the original ban. I'm pretty sure there's ways around that too, but I honestly cant say for sure how their job works on things like this, which is probably for the better to not be public information ^^
And while IP bans are indeed not allowed, for big multi-offenders they can place ban for multiple years which is pretty close to a perm ban.
vivid blaze
Regardless of the ban length, a ban is not a ban if the user can easily make fake accounts. Coz they can discard their old accs and play with new ones
quaint bramble
Esp if he says on the report 'haha i have other accounts' the guardians will surely be able to find them
vivid blaze
I wanna discuss more possible solutions on how fake accs can be fixed considering that my best solution has been 'disliked' by devs for god knows whatever non sensible reasons
How about finding a way to display that 'You cannot play or make new accounts until this ban is over'? Or would this still count as an ip ban?
Please answer this @quaint bramble
runic dragon
Banning a whole device is not allowed on ios tho
Or ip ban or whatever
Oops alredy said
quaint bramble
I am not familiar with the full IOS Terms of service and I am ofc not an app maker either, so I have no idea bout this :/
And again I also don't know how the guardians detect these multi accounts, perhaps there already is some sort of auto-detection that tells the guardians 'this device has 5 accounts already, check their reports'
pallid merlin
Ip bans are against iOS' terms of use ^^
normal wyvern
Each time I accidentally click on someone in the clan chat and their profile appears without me wanting it. There should be the possibility to turn this off in the settings.
quaint bramble
@pallid merlin And that's pretty common knowledge so that's why this question wasnt simply about IP-bans anymore
pallid merlin
?
quaint bramble
"How about finding a way to display that 'You cannot play or make new accounts until this ban is over'? Or would this still count as an ip ban? Please answer this"
That's what was asked
And it's something I dont know, since it does sound different from the regular ip-ban
night path
Yeah, it's basically an ip ban..
you could only do that if you were
unless there was another way to do this
vivid blaze
Does anyone have ideas on how to prevent/reduce fake acc. creation?
Is ip ban not allowed only on ios? If yes then maybe we can atleast implement it on android.
lament knoll
Well that would mean ios users are immune against it and only punish android users
There is either searched a solution which works for both device types and doesnt give you an advantage depending on which device you use
vivid blaze
Well I did provide a solution that can work across all devices but u know what happened. coughs
I can't think of anything simpler than that. Other solutions are more complicated so they have a higher chance to be declined by devs.
But maybe others can come up if we all think about it. I wanna know if others have ideas too.
next escarp
i think that you should be able to hold down chats to hide them (just shows username) and then hold them down again to show them. It because sometimes useless messages interrupt the flow and information of the game and being able to easily shift through would be nice
night path
@next escarp Hey, im having a tad trouble understanding, could you explain this in another way?
or send an example
next escarp
ok, i'll try wording this better. You should have the ability to hide and unhide chats
night path
In the game?
open panther
Could you make a 20 to 30 second kick limit on servers, it's so you don't have as many servers open at once
next escarp
oop yeah in the game. would it make it too easy?
quaint bramble
I think it would be risky, you could easily mis-tap and hide important info without noticing
Or people can use it as an excuse 'oop i might have hidden that then'
Appreciate the reason behind the idea, but I think I've seen better solutions for this problem. Such as making player numbers/role names bold text, or tapping a player to highlight their messages in the chat ^^
And those are in feedback-devs somewhere already
night path
@open panther hey! could you elaborate? I'm not too sure what you mean. Is it so once you join a lobby you cannot be kicked for 20-30seconds (Im referencing custom)
gotta agree with @quaint bramble there @next escarp . I really do not see the usefulness of it myself and similiar ideas are in #feedback-devs
compact echo
You guys should make trading
quaint bramble
Trading features usually arent good for the game, because then you can bypass the ads limit and farm gold/trade it away etc.
And for things like clothing, you never actually get duplicates so thats kinda hard to trade with.
fallen rock
Hi, It's maintenance, I don't know when it ends but I think it will be finished tomorrow morning or in the night
meager fjord
Oh...
fallen rock
The #questions is more suitable for questions
meager fjord
Oh ok sorry didn't know
quaint bramble
@fallen rock Actually we cannot confirm if it's maintenance, its certainly not planned. And we have no idea when it will be working again :/
fallen rock
Yes but usually it's not very long
quaint bramble
That is correct
fallen rock
We'll be more tomorrow.
runic dragon
The zombie's hand should have the number of the player who is biting the other player to know who is biting who
runic dragon
@median elbow I thinks actually it's fine so you can fake Cupid
lament knoll
Most cupids claim first day anyways tbh π
normal wyvern
@lament knoll can u check mine pls 
lament knoll
Sure! Gimme a sec
First of all sorry for the inconveniences and that your feedback got overseen β€
That actually sounds quite reasonable thoo,, let me give it a quick check if it has beek suggested before and if not i'll post it into #feedback-devs for you 
normal wyvern
Thank you β€ 
unkempt junco
I was wondering that:
- If I am in bronze league, I play in silver one
- If I am in silver league, I play in gold one
- If I am in gold league, I still play in gold one
So is the bronze-league game really exist? And we should fix so that bronze is really in bronze, not in silver and act dumb
runic dragon
@unkempt junco I think it's clearly a bug. You can report it in #bugs-readonly
~~and I see you're Vietnamese π»π³ ~~
unkempt junco
Yes
XD
Idk if it only happens in VIetnamese
since in midnight, the rank return to normal
runic dragon
Just there's not enough people in your league π€
runic dragon
Moreover, Vietnamese servers are damn active lol
twilit fjord
Maybe put the flag for the English server on sb instead of a question mark flag. I always ask nicely and say the sb is English only and something I get alot is that "there is no flag, so we can speak whatever language we want". I was also thinking that it help with the "people not speaking English in sb" problem. Just a suggestion :)
It's gotten to the point where I have to ask people every game to speak English.
glacial warren
@twilit fjord hey ^^ it already has been suggested before and as far as I know, the devs are already planning something like this. Here a reminder for those players, that they choose sandbox and get a message, which says that sandbox is english and they have to speak english there or else it is reportable
twilit fjord
@glacial warren oh ok, awesome. Didn't know this was suggested already, lol.
glacial warren
@twilit fjord π
twilit fjord
@glacial warren oh ya, I saw that, but either they don't read it or they disregard it. I usually ask people nicely to speak English or i will report. Most people are nice about it, apologize and speak English the rest of the game. Other people will start yelling at me and cussing at me and things like that, so i do report those people. I'm just getting irritated about having to ask people to speak English in almost every game, lol.
glacial warren
@twilit fjord sorry, that you experienced it like this. I really understand the problem here and I think if you already warned them to speak english and they don't listen, I would report them to be honest.
If you get a pop up messages, it is common to skip it, but you should read it to make sure, that you know what's written there.
twilit fjord
@glacial warren oh believe me, I do report them, lol.
glacial warren
thank you for your suggestion anyways
woeful mesa
I think there should be an option in game to directly say I forgot my password when changing it. Because from what I know now we can only do I forgot my password when we want to log in, but if we don't manage to change the password then we can never log in again, because we don't know it...
uneven gust
someone work already on new xp system ?
woeful mesa
When you logged in with a google account, you can t change your email or wanting to change the log in from google to another email. I think it should be changed because like this people who logged in with a google account, if any problem happens to the google mail won t be able to change anything
uneven gust
maybe new XP system
for for example using role ablility.
somethink like : when seer checked ww - 10 XP when villager 5 XP
normal ww somethink like for ery kill get 15 XP
sorry for my english it too bad π
vernal dune
@woeful mesa hey! For both of your feedbacks, that seems to be quite a problem π€ I think its worth posting in #feedback-devs 
@uneven gust Heyo! This feedback unfortunately has already been denied because some roles have none to few abilities. They wouldn't be able to gain much XP in this format. ^^
uneven gust
@vernal dune thats right. And
Lso for lynch ww
Role without any abilites will get bonus XP
runic dragon
Village lynches Villager : -1 XP
Village lynches evil roles : +1 XP
π
vernal dune
As I said it has been already suggested
runic dragon
please make "Custom amount" in capital letters in russian setup
golden canopy
Omg @twilit fjord
twilit fjord
@golden canopy What? What did I do?
golden canopy
Nothing :)
twilit fjord
@golden canopy So why u pinging me for no reason?
golden canopy
Just cuz I saw you :D
runic dragon
#off-topic this is for feedback
golden canopy
Ye sorry
open panther
@night path I mean after a match is done, also sorry for my late reaction, only because some people just quit the app (which leaves the server open), or they just stay there and shut off their device (which also keeps the server open
unkempt junco
Uhmm, I wonder why we shouldn't leave the suiciders as offline, and have a chance to return the game? Sometimes they suicide immediately made me lose instantly
fallen rock
If a person commits suicide, what does it do voluntarily
If it has a loss of connection and what comes back quickly or leaves the game in the background it will be put off
hasty rover
Idea
When someone gets reported by X players in the same game the reports of that person won't count.
Usually they just report out of revenge with no plausible reason.
rotund pilot
it would be nice if the cursed villager could choose the role of a wolf
for example if the sighted wolf dies he can choose to become a seeing wolf and if there is more than dead he can choose which one he watches be
and if no wolf dies it becomes a normal wolf
lament knoll
@hasty rover well,, there wouldn't be a punishment for the people which didnt do right and also even people which did a fault themselves can still report other wrong doers aswell
I honestly dont rly see any use in that as it only would allow team reporters to block reports from another person and elseways nothing would change
hasty rover
Well im glad me being reported for no reason than playing my role right is valid.
Yesterday after i claimed aura rrv role and we lynched the aura (i was Jww) the actual aura after he was reved: "NO F*** you. You re not aura. IM GONNA REPORT YOU ALL"
lament knoll
Heyaa @rotund pilot something similar to that has been suggested before, quite a while back tho
So you're suggesting that cursed can choose which werewolf role he'll become?
Sounds like a nice buff for the ww and i didnt see the suggestion being exactly like yours is phrased
I think i'll give it a post in #feedback-devs
lament knoll
@hasty rover well then that person risks getting banned for spam reporting and you get no effect of it at all 
You can get banned for abusing the report feature especially if it's non justified spam reports
If you didn't do anything wrong you don't have to do anything nor fear anything
hasty rover
Of course. I'll ask to be unbanned in a week if this keeps going.
lament knoll
Well,,, you wont get banned if you didn't do anything wrong sooo yeah?
It's not an autoban system it's people checking the reports and they see if a report is invalid, they also see if all are invalid soo,, the likeliness that you get banned unjustified is pretty low, it still happens ofc bc they're only people but still, pretty low
lament knoll
Still deserves to be voted on ^^
quaint bramble
If that would be implemented, at best it should be assigned the role of the first dead ww or something, not be made a choice
quaint bramble
at best it should be able to become a wolf seer, if he turns after wolf seer dying
lament knoll
First suggestion in #feedback-devs i found was cursed should turn into a jwwπ
craggy dagger
now you still get your kill even if you turn cursed
because cursed turned jww can just tag whoever the kill wouldve been
and wws can still vote the jww and be correctly lynching which is a completely broken concept
This is worst case scenario for this suggestion
Cursed's very existence is good for wolves
quaint bramble
Very much agreed, cursed is a 5th wolf, it shouldnt be a powered one too
left bloom
That would broke the game π€
charred kiln
There should be somewhere at the home page a button where u can see all the valid 12 reports of u when ur banned. Now its like a guardian shows u one or two things and u have to do with that. With this button u can see what uve done and if u disagree with it or sth is not right u can contact a guardian. Would also give gaudrains less people who contact him/her
vernal dune
@charred kiln hello there! The problem with your suggestion is if the names were displayed, it would attract hate over them. Even if they are hidden, they may be for different reasons, or have hard to understand grammar. The point of the guardian message is to sum up all of them ^^
runic dragon
Can those flowers also be in Hat Section or Front icon?
Also be able to use the hairs without those flowers
glacial warren
@runic dragon hey ^^ I'm sorry for the late reply... as far as I know it's part of the hair layer right? Then the designer chose to make it like this and it won't be changed. The designer can choose on which layer the items should be and that's the reason it's on the hair layer
Thank you for your suggestion
runic dragon
The staff are really rude
charred kiln
Lol
runic dragon
@crisp thistle @naive whale
Why i am leaving Werewolf Online
#1 Mods are too rude and doesnt seem like a human being with no feelings especially the "Guardians"
#2 They dont treasure players and looked down on them
#3 I love the game like really but yea again the reason why im quitting i felt offended by the guardians looking down at me like really... They were rude as fuck!
#4 Summary The guardians are rude as hell gave them my reason and they are saying bad stuff that offended me so much.
#RageQuit
charred kiln
Thats a guardian not a staff
hearty drum
@runic dragon π π ?
runic dragon
Staff or a guardian idc he was rude like wth
runic dragon
I felt offended
runic dragon
My hands are shaking cuz ive been offended
charred kiln
Do u have ss???
runic dragon
This is the first game that made me feel this way
charred kiln
Maybe the other guardians can delete him if they agree if hes rude
But u need an ss first
glacial warren
@runic dragon if you have complains about a guardian, please contact a mod or dev. I don't think a guardian will be mean to you tho. If you contact a mod or dev, make sure to have prooves
runic dragon
I contacted the developer and its not responding
The guardian didnt listen and became pride
He was so rude
charred kiln
Do u have ss????
runic dragon
He said i was lying and he got alot of same reasons as mine
glacial warren
@runic dragon they are busy so you have to be patient.
Guardians can decline an unban if they think it is valid
runic dragon
Ofcourse i have ss
charred kiln
Send it please
runic dragon
@glacial warren they replied and became rude
glacial warren
@charred kiln no. We don't want to talk about it here
charred kiln
Dm me
runic dragon
@charred kiln i cant find you
quaint bramble
The guardians can see your game logs so they were probbaly just trying to explain that they banned you with proof of rule breaking, and thats their job
charred kiln
Just click on my profile and click on βsend messageβ
runic dragon
@quaint bramble i know but i gave them a reason
@charred kiln im currently on phone
quaint bramble
Saying 'you deserve to stay banned' for example, isnt a rude thing for a guardian to say
runic dragon
I did nothing wrong
I explained the reasons to him but didnt listen and ignored me for the whole time
charred kiln
Send me when u have ur ss okay?
meager gyro
@charred kiln Could you please stop seeking for drama π
charred kiln
?
runic dragon
@charred kiln pm me if youre really that curious madaam
meager gyro
@runic dragon If you feel threatened unfairly by a guardian you can send Philipp a dm with your complaint and evidence and you probably can solve the problem π
runic dragon
Like literally got offended as if he was not human being to understand
meager gyro
Please read above 
vivid blaze
My real suggestion would be that the cursed role should be changed. It should be a ww from the start. Because firstly, cursed role is legit the most boring role and many people suicide or say "Kill me I'm cursed". Secondly, many cursed seem to gamethrow village when they're not bit and say ww to bite him and he'll help them. Lastly, we already know how unbalanced the game is. So having 5 total ww would make it a bit more balanced and it would actually give us excitement and fear knowing that we have a lot of wws around.
vernal dune
@vivid blaze Hello ^^ If cursed was a werewolf from the beginning of the game, it would just be a normal werewolf and not a cursed.
vivid blaze
Although there's just one interesting thing that we will lose if this is done. There are times when aura checks cursed and he's good. Then later if cursed is bit he pretends to be good saying "Aura said I'm good". However this doesn't always work interestingly as many experienced pros know how it works and when they role call the cursed is caught anyways for not claiming a role/claiming roles that die once he lies.
@vernal dune That was useless for you to say that but I do hope you get my point. If you took my statement literally, I mean to say 'remove' cursed and replace him with a 'ww'.
runic dragon
By the way before i decided to leave heres my mind : How about adding a boarder in game like players could use boarder as flex.
crisp thistle
and i got that ?
glacial warren
Please don't discuss it here ^^"
runic dragon
wow before i said that there was other convo
vivid blaze
And btw @vernal dune Your statement makes me like 'duh'. That was indirectly kinda rude from you just saying. But nvm I'm so used to unusual behavior from you guys...
runic dragon
Youre really rude cuz ur pretending to be innovent
crisp thistle
@glacial warren cause i got ping here and saw someone said im rude, just showing sth
vivid blaze
Lemme know what you guys think about the cursed thing that I said
runic dragon
@vivid blaze is your idea to just remove cursed? Because they donβt just remove roles
crisp thistle
come #off-topic if wanna talk more
glacial warren
@runic dragon now you start to be rude. As I said, this is not the right place to discuss it so please do, what we already told you a few times now.
runic dragon
Sorry
vernal dune
@vivid blaze I might have misread your suggestion a bit, but the devs change the classic roles every week, so soon you'll eventually be able to play with different roles ^^
vivid blaze
@runic dragon Its not really an idea. I saw there was a discussion going on about cursed so I just wanted to share my point of view. I'm not really insistent on this suggestion anyways its just a very small thing I thought that can be done if needed. And they don't really technically need to remove that role, its just replacing it and keeping the cursed for other times and stuff maybe.
Basically what I want to say is that, replace all boring roles, such as cursed, mayor, etc. with a ww to make the game more balanced and fun.
@vernal dune I don't really think you misread but you literally made me retype what the whole point was. Because there isn't technically a difference between "cursed should be a ww from the start" and "remove cursed and add a ww". When I said "cursed should be a ww from the start" it obviously means that it'll be a ww -_- So nice try trying to roast but it was a fail bcoz stating the obvious was totally pointless.
And I'm not being rude ok, I'm being honest you know it as well as it is the truth. In fact you're the one rude to me by trying to bring in an obvious statement and making me to rewrite it again in full literal terms.
vernal dune
@vivid blaze cursed should be a ww from the start is a suggestion for the cursed role and remove cursed and add a ww is a suggestion to change the roles.
vivid blaze
And again, I know the devs change roles every week facepalm. What I overall say is that boring roles can be removed to add a ww to balance the game.
@vernal dune Do you get my point or not? You are going into full 'literal' terms again.
Anyways I'm kinda busy rn don't have time for this nonsense. Tc ttyl
vernal dune
So you're basically suggesting to change the roles. Devs change the roles to whatever composition they think is balanced, but there always has to be 'boring' roles in order for the game to be balanced. You can't expect every villager to be a strong one and still have a balanced game, neither can you say to remove roles that have fewer interest because they are part of the balance the game has. They always have something to do either way because they're not "basic" villagers.
echo saddle
let wws access the ww chat when they die
read only tho, as if it were day and you tried to type in it
runic dragon
@meager gyro
meager gyro
@runic dragon Hey!
vernal dune
@echo saddle hey! This has already been suggested before quite a long time ago, but you can still upvote the suggestion here: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/575466164738850826
Thanks for the suggestion anyways
echo saddle
ty uwu
let players view all chats at the end of the game
has that been suggested yet
vernal dune
@echo saddle I believe that hasn't been suggested before, but where would there be all the buttons to all the chats? If each button is one chat there will probably not be enough space...
echo saddle
you know the crown icon?
except at the end of the game that crown icon is a chat icon and opens up a menu to choose which chat you'd like to view
vernal dune
@echo saddle That should be okay, I'll add that to #feedback-devs 
peak knot
why don't we make a separate #feedback-readonly for ranked since it's literally the only thing I (and a lot of other players) care about
Just a suggestion
forest rover
Hey!My feedback is that players that usually play ranked and get a high score should start in gold instantly because for example,because when a new season starts and you starts playing ranked in silver league,there is a really huge number of noobs and for example in my case the preliminary games (which gives more skills) I lose it a lot by dying first night and seeing how my team lose and now Iβm practically catched in silver league since I am not able to get 100 skills without losing 200 skills.
Like for example in this game where the seer (6) said that the arsonist(7) (and also said 10 good and 10 was ww) was good making us lose
vivid blaze
@vernal dune The argument wasn't even about the role change thing. It was about you being indirectly rude to me and making myself repeat by bringing the same thing up again and again. Anyways when we talk about the role change thing, plz understand that feedback is all about opinions. There isn't a right or wrong answer. You don't necessarily need to negatively comment on all suggestions and it bring it down. As a matter of fact literally none of my suggestions have been given even normal reactions let alone positive. Especially considering the fact that my suggestions are supported by facts which u can't argue against. The role change thing I said, is bcoz the game is unbalanced u cant deny that. The game is unbalanced and we must do something to improve it. To do that some sacrifices have to be, will be made. You literally bring up points of the littlest of things that u use as an excuse and in turn not realizing that this ignorance of yours is restricting the game from improving.
For every suggestion u bring it all little arguments and sometimes even 'unrealistic' arguments. Please try to understand we don't owe you anything and we can't just sit here and keep answering to your little arguments that sometimes don't even matter.
And one more thing. Please try not to make me repeat and atleast don't tell me obvious things that I'm already aware about. Almost all of the stuff that u tell me is what I already obviously know. There's a reason why I'm here on discord so don't waste your or my time saying things like "devs change roles every week"
vernal dune
@vivid blaze Your argument that the game is not balanced is an opinion rather than a fact. Not everyone can agree and I surely see werewolves winning a considerable amount of time. If your suggestions to not get positive feedback or consideration, maybe you should ask yourself if the denial reason was valid, and give a reason if you think it doesn't. That way, we'll be able to discuss it, just like right now. We try our best to get all suggestions to #feedback-devs, but we still have to select the ones that are innovating or realistic.
To conclude about your suggestion, if the devs don't change the role set it is because they think it is fine in terms of balance. Thanks for suggesting though.
echo saddle
@forest rover I wouldn't recommend that. Just join the season a week later.
vivid blaze
Dude... I've spoken about this before. On my records, the times I've been a ww, I've lost 76% of the time... you get it? Don't even try to consider your opinion above a fact. The stats I'm giving you here is a 'fact'.
Secondly, I literally just told u it's just a suggestion and there is not right or wrong answer on it but here you go making me repeat myself again.
I do get positive reactions from people at times but never from you helpers. Bcoz you helpers deliberately delve deeper and deeper to annoy the suggestion, which is exactly what you're doing rn.
You try to prove little minor sacrifices are more important than a major change which is exactly why this game is where it is today.... hardly improving at all.
And for the last time.... idc if the devs add it or not. As I said in the beginning, I'm just here to share my thoughts on this.
This is not a suggestion that 'must' be done. It's a suggestion that 'could' be done if wanted that's it. I'm not telling u to enforce it through or anything.
And lastly, the entire argument is I'm trying to tell you to improve your behaviour and understanding that's it. If u can't do it then don't comment. Thx
@echo saddle I think u misunderstand also. I'm not telling to replace just cursed. I clearly wrote that 'all' useless roles, like cursed or mayor for e.g. can be replaced with a ww in each game season. Only one for each season. That way people don't get bored by playing boring roles like cursed, mayor etc. and in turn it balances the game really well.
peak knot
Ok sure but let's make #feedback-readonly-ranked
vale gyro
Hey, just wanted to ask if it would be possible to add a function to send gold gifts to other players from your own gold. Currently you can only send purchased gold which is kinda annoying, I already have more than enough gold so I'd like to gift someone a bit of my stack instead of buying gold just to gift it.
quaint bramble
@peak knot I dont think that would be necessary, since the devs read the whole fb-channel and we do post ranked things there
@vale gyro The only giftable thing that can be bought would coins as well, is the battlepass atm :/
And we sadly have to deny suggestions like this because it can be abused with gold farming. You could maybe donate the gold to your clan and state that it a payment for your friends too? That's a way to gift them a clan outfit basically ^^
vale gyro
What's gold farming?
vernal dune
@vivid blaze your stats may be true for you, but other people have different strategies and, in result, different win rates. Game improvements are meant for everyone and it isn't reduced to what you see.
Our job as helpers is to select feedback that is clear and concise. If there are problems or questions about one we do point them out to you. Never do we reject posting feedback in #feedback-devs unless there is a factor that prevents so. In your case, the already said conclusion above states that because the devs chose this setup, they believe in its potential. Sure, you may complain that you lose quite often when these roles, but like with any roles, especially solos, you just need to challenge yourself to do the best.
If you only want to share your thoughts, then keep in mind that we give all suggestions a chance to get seen by the devs. You may deny the flaws of your idea if your suggestion is only a thought.
Finally, this has gone out of topic. Let's end this discussion here. Thank you.
quaint bramble
@vale gyro watching ads till you cant anymore. if you could do that again with newbie accounts too an then trade the gold around.. you;d be farmin gold and going around the limits on purpose ^^
thin dome
Could we have the free gold wheel moved into the gold shop area? It makes more sense to have it there and for me specifically, when I leave games after they are finished I always click the free gold button on accident. I think this would be better for the app and a more reasonable place to show people that you do not have to pay for gold - instead you can just watch an ad and spin the wheel to try to win items.
quaint bramble
people already complain a lot about having a hard time earning gold, so i think thats part of the reason why it's there on the main screen. It promotes the game as being free to play as well.
I do understand the problem of accidentally double tapping on it, but I am not sure what the best location for the gold button would be.. perhaps along with the inventory/profile etc ones in the middle?
thin dome
Maybe just have it added there to then
Maybe
It always happens to me itβs so annoying
I was thinking of just moving it below settings but people would misclick those buttons all the time
It might be better to have it like at the bottom right under clans
echo saddle
@vivid blaze I was not replying to your suggestion.
Add an "Ultra Hardcore" mode. Players can toggle this mode to gain triple the XP they would usually get, and only if their team wins.
Effects:
-Your own role, regardless of what it is, is revealed on Day 1.
-You cannot vote until Day 2.
-You can send up to 5 messages per day.
-Night chat: DISABLED. If you're a WW, of course, the WWs know you can't talk or read chat.
-If you die, you'll be charged 5 gold. (Unless you died on Night 1) For this reason, you must have at least 5 gold to toggle UHC mode.
-IF YOU GET REVIVED AND KILLED AGAIN, YOU WON'T BE CHARGED 5 GOLD AGAIN.
uncut tusk
@echo saddle Hello there, thanks for the suggestion.
Devs aren't going to add any news game modes anytime soon, though :/
And even if they did... I think your suggestion makes it pretty impossible for evil roles to win :/
echo saddle
thats the point of UHC mode
also it's not a new gamemode, players toggle it and then hop in a ranked or quick game
actually i see a lot of improvements i can make
so
ill rewrite it
uncut tusk
If I'm right, it shouldn't even be possible for evil roles to win, unless teaming up or gamethrowing.
If everyone knows everyone else's role (except during first night), then there are 12 villagers vs 4 ww + 2 solo roles (in Sandbox configuration, but in other modes too, village is most of the people).
Village is ensured to win if everyone follows the rules.
echo saddle
no
everyone knows YOUR role if you have UHC mode enabled
but you dont know theirs
im gonna rewrite it
uncut tusk
Everyone would enable it and hope to be a villager (most of the time) or to win as zombie (tons of xp)
runic dragon
In ranked, villager/werewolf winrates are 80/20 even among the best players, which makes it not fun to play for either of the sides after awhile. Voting role win rate seems relatively balanced, but the Killer role rate is also abysmal. Moreover the winning rewards do not reflect those odds well. I wish the ranked to have more variety. New roles from sandbox work well enough to be added to the ranked now.
In casual it is hard to find well customed games due to the low amount of hosts, and one third of the games there are made for rose farming which I dont find healthy.
echo saddle
New mode: Ultra Hardcore
Ultra Hardcore is designed to make it extremely hard for the player that has the mode enabled. This mode only effects gameplay in Quick Games and Ranked Games. When a player has UHC mode enabled, they will not be queue'd for matches with converting roles.
Effects
-The role of the player is revealed to everyone else, regardless of what it is.
-Talismans are disabled for the player whilst UHC mode is enabled.
-The player cannot vote until Day 2.
-The player can only send 5 messages per day.
-The player cannot type in any night chats. If you're jailed for example, you'll be made aware that your jailer has UHC mode enabled, and cannot talk. Same for Werewolves and Medium chat.
-The odds to become an evil role are reduced.
-It costs 5 gold to enable UHC mode, as you'll be charged 5 gold if you die.
-You can only be charged 5 gold once a game. If you die a 2nd time after revival, you won't be charged.
-You'll be warned that UHC mode is enabled when you try to join a Quick Game or Ranked.
quaint bramble
why not sandbox? And def should not be in ranked.
Also if everyone can see you're on this mode, they are either gonna team with you and help you win for more xp, or go to any length possible to make you lose caus they salty people...
echo saddle
Not really
You have to queue up in a quick or ranked- so no friends. If this mode gets targeted, it is reportable and any losses are reverted (that would be the reasonable thing to do)
quaint bramble
I'm not really seeing the point tbh, I dont think a hard mode really suits this game.
uneven gust
Maybe shop like in STFU FORTNITE but it good idea.
forest rover
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/636217345874067476
It get flooded and with no opinions so Iβll let here the link.
uncut tusk
@forest rover Hello, I'm sorry that your suggestion got lost in the flow of messages.
Thanks for your idea. I do understand your point, but I'm not really sure if it'd be good to implement some sort of "start the next season at the same league as the previous one".
Everyone who starts a new season has to deal with lesser experienced players. It's not just you ^^ Reaching gold league at the beginning of a new season isn't something you should earn right away just because you had it in the previous season. It's what seasons are here for, after all.
forest rover
Well I guess that adding it for all the gold league players wonβt be easy but maybe just add it to the top 1000 or 2000 maybe because you did well in the last season you start with a help in the new one.
uncut tusk
I think their help themselves with their own skill, since they're really good players, don't you think? ;)
And you already get rewarded with your previous rank.
echo saddle
Allow the "Cursed" to team with the wolves. Let's face it, at some point you'll be bitten during a game. To prepare for this, you need to play wolf-style, even if you don't know who the wolves are. By suddenly changing your behaviour when you DO get bitten, you'll become a suspect heads-on. Why is it bannable to team with the WWs until you're actually bitten?
uncut tusk
@echo saddle Hello and thanks for your feedback. But cursed is precisely supposed to help village as long as he's, well, village. He'll help ww only if he's a ww himself. He's not supposed to team with ww.
It's already a negative role for village, let's not allow him to team up with ww straight away...
It's exactly his role to do like that. He's not a ww.
echo saddle
It's a strategy I employ.
uncut tusk
A gamethrowing strategy, then ^^ I recommend you not to do it.
echo saddle
This way, I do not get suspected when I do get bitten. And before replying,
I do NOT know who the werewolves are at the start, so all I can do is hope to get bitten and try to tie votes with people if I think a WW is about to get lynched.
And maybe try to hint at the WWs who I am. That's about it.
Whilst I can understand you shouldn't- It really puts you at a severe disadvantage if your behaviour suddenly changes and then everybody knows you're bitten. It's best to prepare yourself from the start, so I still don't see how it is gamethrowing. The role should either not be included in games or this strategy should be allowed.
@uncut tusk
uncut tusk
Look, I understand your strategy, but it's not about making your character win, it's about making your current team win.
It's the same thing with Sect Leader and Zombies. When you're not sected/zombified yet, you are against them. You should not choose to team up with them in the hope to be included in their team later on.
You are supposed to play Cursed as a regular villager (like jailer, gunner, medium, priest, etc.), so you should try to win as village, no matter what.
If you get transformed into a ww, then you can team up with ww. But not before. The rules are pretty clear about it π
echo saddle
And say I don't get bitten. Do I win with the village in the event that I'm not bitten? Only then I find it ok to implement such a rule.
And by "do I win with the village" I mean mechanic wise. Will I get xp and/or positive skill (if the role appears in ranked)?
uncut tusk
Yes you do.
echo saddle
Ok.
serene lotus
It took me some time to realize that 4 was one of my teammates. I suggest to change the color of the werewolf paw, or at least to give it an eye-catching outlining for a better contrast
echo saddle
thats already clear enough
serene lotus
Itβs just a suggestion, but thanks for your qualified opinion.
autumn tangle
pallid merlin
@serene lotus Thanks for suggesting, I'd say it does depend on personal opinion, but let's see in #feedback-devs
@autumn tangle That's a nice idea, will add it too ^^
fallen rock
Put a categories to explain how to have each badge
Because a lot of people don't know what badges are
solar dew
Can you please remove the linesπ idk why you changed this, but dear designer of this hair. I want my favourite hair backπ·
fallen rock
If this has already been changed, I would be surprised if it was put back as before
There's a lot of hair in the game, I'm sure you'll find your happiness
pallid merlin
@fallen rock there's already a badge explanation when you click on the badge, on the social media items, that should be enough π
@solar dew sadly if it changed, there's a reason for it 
it won't change back due to that, thanks for suggesting tough
fallen rock
@pallid merlin yes but you have to come across players who have it to know it, in addition in ranked you can't see the profile
pallid merlin
@fallen rock Badges are somewhat rare considering the big player base tough
fallen rock
It would also prevent each party from asking what it is, it becomes annoying for the badge owner.
rustic spruce
#staff-action should be an announcement channel (followable)
night path
There is already a ranking system with rewards though?
serene solstice
It may look very hard but it's the objective
night path
you gets points based on if you win/lose and are ranked based on points
which I feel is very similiar to your idea, you know?
if you think the ranked system is buggy then you could suggest a way in #bugs-readonly 
. the leagues are a little bugged and mentioning this in bugs may fix it
serene solstice
night path
May you chang this to english, i am not french ^^
change*
i want to know what you are pointing out
I do like your idea, but it is hard enough to put people in the same league (high silver/gold) together anyway
rustic spruce
what about my idea ^-^
uncut tusk
@serene solstice If you want to talk in French about it, we can do that in DM ;)
Je ne vois pas le problème dans ton image.
rustic spruce
#staff-action should be an announcement channel (followable
rustic spruce
it would not be really usefull but... since #community-announcements is followable, #staff-action would be as usefull
meager gyro
I think it is possible, but idk how useful it would be, but we'll discuss it π
rustic spruce
I don't think is would be less usefull than #community-announcements π and I know I would use it
thanks a lot π
Also, something else:
Philipp posted a #dev-vote about changing someone's username if this username is taken by an inactive account
One of the condition was: "The account must be below level 25". I think this condition should be lowered to "Below level 15" or even 10
(from my experience, these accounts are level 1-2 most of the time anyway)
fallen rock
@serene solstice you idea is Wonderful
runic dragon
@rustic spruce No
rustic spruce
only devs can give such an answer
runic dragon
this concerns the discord and not directly the game (for the staff action) @rustic spruce
rustic spruce
ooh you talked about that
well only Lisa can give such an answer and she said she was gonna discuss it
uncut tusk
@rustic spruce Heya ^^ About your account level suggestion: various levels have been suggested to philipp already, maybe he'll change his mind if he does that idea ;)
Thanks for your idea!
meager gyro
@rustic spruce I mean I know a lot of servers do follow #community-announcements just because they are linked to wwo main and therefore interested in server changes and similar
But Idk if staff changes are that interesting outside the server (then you could also enable notifications on all messages)
I dont know how many members your server has and what's it's purpose or where they came from -> if they are here though
runic dragon
Thats not against the rules @fallen rock
Better they are farming xp like this than teaming with friends/clan members in a quick game or sandbox match to get xp fast.
fallen rock
@runic dragon It's officially forbidden
uncut tusk
Hello @fallen rock, thanks for the idea. But we cannot really forbid players to play some specific custom game configurations...
runic dragon
As you can see, it's not forbidden ^^
fallen rock
Yes, but there is, for example, the name
If it is rude, racist or otherwise, (I will not give an example)
runic dragon
Maybe but i dont agree on that positioning
fallen rock
Or people who advertise
runic dragon
Forcing players to enter a proper email, and send a verfication email to their email to confirm.
This will 99,99% reduce gamethrowing.
lament knoll
@runic dragon was already suggested before, and the email verification got declined afaik
For several quite understandable reasons tbh
Still thanks for suggesting it
runic dragon
What were the reasons?
I don't see what is the point in letting players create alts as much as they want π
lament knoll
Well players which actually want to ruin this game or also botters wont really bother that much, i know quite few people which own atleast two email adresses
Alts are already getting detected and punished and this would after all just be too much effort you would have to put into it for no satisfaction
The only way to really stop gamethrowers and botting after all would be making the game pay to play which we'd all rather prefer not to ^^"
Email verification just showed in examples of other games to not be an effective way to stop the problem
fallen rock
runic dragon
@fallen rock What do you mean by that? You mean I am being rude?
kinda angry
kinda annoyed
fallen rock
I'm showing you that the issue has already been dealt with recently