#feedback-readonly | Wolvesville | Page 61

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

No first paci

#

Wwb has enough attention

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

wwb already got fixed to only killing protectors now, in newer versions it works as intended finally

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

that is not true

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

No

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

i literally just saw doc witch die

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

It still kills jailer AND gunner

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

with doc on witch

#

just my last game aldsie was doc and was on witch

#

and they both died to wwb

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

I've seen it do the opposite a few times as well. That's probbaly caue people use different versions of the game atm

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

wdym

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

Whatever version the ww berserk player has, is what effect it does

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

Okay wwb will be fixed at some time

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

so i should just not update my app to keep wwb busted??

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

But paci first

#

I still dont have a valid argument

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

is it intended to still kill jailer and gunner can u answer this first

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

the game will be force updated eventually, there's been a rapidfire of small updates lately and some deices just dont get it faster

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

is it intended to still kill jailer gunner

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

It's intended to kill jailer, but not gunner

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

that is the broken part

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

Only the protecTOR

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

it is literally unwinnable in fool games if all 3 bullets are gone cuz someone tapped a button

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

Yup

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

literally a 10% win rate can tap a button and attack gunner

#

and suddenly we r screwed as town

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

I just answered your question, it's not so op anymore when that update rolls out to everyone

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

tyvm

#

SO ONTO PACI I GUESS

#

NERF WHEN

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

Berserk will be fixed

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

NERF PACI WHENNN

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

I still want a good argument for paci not being nerfed

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

paci nerf is like priest: if i reveals good it dies

#

adds risk

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

No

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

and berserk can shake up the age-old gunner/jailer dynamic and force people to adapt, which i have also said before ^^

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

If reveal bads too

#

Paci reveal and die

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

Uff no

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

Or sth else

#

But paci also revealing fake dets would still be op

#

So paci should just go

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

It sounds logical, and would be in-line with priest but also paci often alsready suicides anyway and that woud just make people random it even more

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

IN SANDBOX

#

not innranked

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

Wws have enough of a hard time to win in ranked especially. Leave them have their win chances go up a little with the wwb’s power.

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

Yeah and go down with paci’s power

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

Wwb does help ww win but not in a healthy way

#

Imo

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

Nerf berserk and nerf paci is exactly the same

#

Exactly @wicked flume

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Good fixes would be: remove regular ww, nerf paci, rework hh so he can’t be benevolent

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Yes

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Like town of Salem executioner doesn’t suddenly turn good boy when his target dies

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Why is the cancelled voting not enough of a drawback to you? It gives the ww's more time to adapt to the situation. If they jail revealed ww, you can now kill gunner cause you know he's not protected for example

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Wwb is literally the easiest role in the game

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Yeah I agree on hh.

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Cuz revealed ww will be watered or shot

#

Anyways

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Yes indeed

#

Also paci revealing fool and solo

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

And watering confirms priest

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

Also can reveal doctors rvs

#

@quaint bramble y u dont understand that it always screws my plans

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

I think the best would be to make paci a rsv

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

U have a double autoconfirm how do u fail to see this is broken

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

If u have a genius plan and acting well it can be busted by the most stupid people by clicking on a button

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

~~to suggest this~~

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

It’s not even paci individually making the reveal

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

@solar dew that would be indeed good

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Usually bad players on paci r told who to reveal

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Wait. Mayor clicks on a button too. Aura on a person. Gunner on a button. Do we take all roles with buttons?

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

It’s a double autoconfirm auras can be faked

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

@wicked flume @charred kiln you two aren't sure how you want to need it. Maybe discuss private and come back with your final version?

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Gunner uses his button to shoot someone

#

Thats true though

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

Aura can be faked det can be faked paci is paci

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

And gunner makes decisions

#

Paci is to ez

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

Gunner can’t be faked but it’s a hard role

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

Paci makes a decision too

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

Paci doesnt alwaysreveal himself with it, so it's not a guaranteed double confirm

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

If gunner shoot bad the olayer dies

#

With paci not

#

@quaint bramble yeah but thats just being dumb

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

For real you spam. Please think a little bit about what you want to suggest and come back

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

and the player not dying is not an advantage, so its not in favour of your suggestion...

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

I think @solar dew is right

#

Come private

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

Yup good idea

#

I might sound like I'm fully against it, but i jst want some clear, undisputable arguments that paci is not balanced, and how you would want to change it

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

#

I said a lot of arguments

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

#

so did I

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

@charred kiln then please list them and add them to your final suggestion

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

Just merge everything into 1 message guys.

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

@wicked flume come private

#

Or wait

#

I’ll dm u later i have to work now

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

And as a little sidenote, the whole buff-paci act that went on for like 20 minutes, didnt really help. At all.

#

More like, wasted my time...

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

Its not a big deal

#

Dont think ur done with me

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

Yes no trolling in the future @wicked flume

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

Ill come back

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

#

After all this i dont want you to be done, i 100% agree please come back and show me something solid 👍

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

Okay now back to my outfit gift suggestions. What do think about it? Can it be added to #feedback-devs ?

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

Yeah I am now gonna look back and check the few things I missed, very srry for the delay

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

Okay thanks :D

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

@keen jewel Have you tried writing in the description that your clan is set to this nationality and you want people only joining if they speak the language?
And if yes, how bad was it really, that people still try to join?

keen jewel Sep 25, 2019, 4:34 PM

#

like 15 people join in 1 hour and none of them is from my Country

#

Everything is clear that its not english clan or something

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

#

Your formulation isn't really clear... Can you maybe send a screen from your description?

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

#

is it set to invite only? Like you could just say 'write your join request in X language' and if they dont, you simply hit deny

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

#

He wanted his clan free to join so I don't think he have this

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:37 PM

#

well i think even if there would be a country filter added, it would not be free to join anymore if you activate it for your clan

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:37 PM

#

Sure

#

@keen jewel can you please explain yourself a little bit?

#

When I'm acting like a helper or something just say it. I'm just interested in feedbacks and so on. If I'm in the way just say it

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

#

Another reason why a setting like this would not work very well, you currently dont have all languages possible to pick as your language. But the clan might be set to this language, but how will the game know if the player speaks it, if the player cant choose the language in his own settings?
Or, what if I have my game set to english, but I want to join a German clan cause I speak that too? I wouldnt allow me because of your setting

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

Oh yeah. My game is in English but I'm German.
I really don't think it's hard to handle with the invitation option. Or maybe he just have to make cleaner which language is valid.

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

Yeah I think invite-only works just fine for this too.. The name is a bit wrong, cause it means they can also request to join...

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

Ping me when you have to think about my suggestion

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

Should i start?

#

Or are u guys busy

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

@solar dew It's a sweet idea, but I believe this kind of trading options are usually not very well received by the devs. And it's probably harder to make than it sounds. What if you give an outfit away, and you buy another random outfit but youget the one you already gave away? Stuff like that

#

@charred kiln Put it in 1 message as much as you can, and then hit send ^^

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

I will

#

Also this is not from @wicked flume only from me

#

Idk she didnt dm me

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

yeah seems like they left before we were finished, perhaps you wanna wait for her feedback first then?

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

@quaint bramble yeah but if this will be denied it is like this. But like I understood you there isn't a big reason to denie it right here so can you maybe add it to #feedback-devs ? GWeniSadNeko

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

Nah ill start

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

#

@solar dew If you can give me a more in-depth view of how the feature would work maybe, like it should def not allow people to trade it around endlessly, and would it basically become unchecked from your outfit shop that means you can get the same thing again which is probbaly pretty painful

keen jewel Sep 25, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

Sorry for sayin that but most of people are so dumb that they Just join any open clan they See, they dont Look at Description or anything

#

Its a lot of players

#

Those are the types that Also suicide all the time

#

And most of them are from Asia

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 5:11 PM

#

Okay I'll think about it, add it and repost the full version

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 5:12 PM

#

Okay my opinion is pacifist is op. Spacially in ranked. If u play sandbox there are more noobs in so i understand it that u think its less op than it really is. In sandbox also theres one rv and paci mostly reveals random and if they revealed a ww theres no priest to water it so they have to vote a day later or jail kill or shoot so even if a ww is revealed u can take advantage of it so after i thought about that i understand ur point. However ranked is so much harder becuz yes ofc there are 3 rv ig but theres only those 3 rv to claim and a doc so ww have 4 role claims. So our first argument: when paci reveals an rv there are suddenly 2 things to claim instead of 4 and if a ww is revealed he will get watered also not being able to lunch is not a big deal since they dont really lynch unless aura or det found sth. mostly there are also other rv who can prove so its almost impossible for ww to win with a paci. Also something that is pretty frequent seen in ranked is the fake detective. Paci? Bye fake det and this is the meaning of clicking on a button only. Like a gunner its a risk and u have to think about it becuz u dont want to shoot the real det. Revealing the real det, no problem. Also mostly having amazing plans wont work too with paci u can just give up. Like i played very well as rv pr fake aura and the whole village believes me, my work is hard to do but whats pacis work? nothing but clicking on a button what out weights what we have done. These are kinda important things what ruin everything for werewolfs. Ofc u can simply say “nah i just think u can take advantage of it bla bla bla bla” but try to think about what im saying and try to feel how it is that ur plans get just ruined. Try to think about what im saying and that paci is more than just revealing a role not claiming and yeah.

#

So i heared a couple ways to nerf paci.
-One of them (by @solar dew) was making it a rsv. This isnt even so bad cuz this would still have paci in sandbox and not in ranked anymore. What the con is of this suggestion is that some people may find it weird to compare this with gunner med jailer det and seer.
-the second one (by @wicked flume) was making him die when revealing a good role. Well this one is okay cuz would prevent random revealing but still makes him the ability to from 4 claims to 2 claims but instead now u have one less villager and still can reveal werewolfs and ruin ur plans. So i think this one wouldnt be it
-the third one (by @charred kiln (me))was making him die with revealing. Well since hes so op its not a big deal but it still ruin ur plans and i dont think a role should die 100% when using their function

If i had to choose between these ones i would choose the first one but the devs may think of better ways to nerf it if its just nerfed its already fine since now nobody wants to nerf it. I hope i convinced u guys why pacifist is op. Thank u for reading

[if u put this to #feedback-devs add a 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣ for witch suggestion is the best]

#

Two messages cuz to long for discord

#

Here u go @quaint bramble

#

And @solar dew

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:14 PM

#

Why is paci op?

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 5:14 PM

#

Lol

#

R u trolling or r u extremly stupid

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:14 PM

#

Maybe both ;)

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 5:14 PM

#

Lol

rigid bronze Sep 25, 2019, 5:15 PM

#

Arsonist, a small tip for everybody that doesn't have the time or the envy of reading more than 3000 letters, you should do a small summary (TL;DR)

#

Would be very useful

charred kiln Sep 25, 2019, 5:16 PM

#

I had to explain it in one message

#

If i did it in a short message they didnt listen

rigid bronze Sep 25, 2019, 5:17 PM

#

Add a short message afterwards

#

And we listen to every messages sent here

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:18 PM

#

What if paci dies if they reveal a bad role?

#

That fits more with the name imo

rigid bronze Sep 25, 2019, 5:22 PM

#

Looks like a bad priest to me 🤔

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:22 PM

#

?

#

His idea?

rigid bronze Sep 25, 2019, 5:26 PM

#

What you said*

full falcon Sep 25, 2019, 5:41 PM

#

So many people want at least one item from a previous battle pass because they didn't discover the game earlier, and that's a shame/a bit unfair.
How about making 1 redeem code of a desirable item obtainable through maybe tier 99 of the next battle pass (so new players can have a chance to obtain an item from BP1 for example) and so a player can choose what outfit item/emoji/player icon they want to have.
And this redeem code would only work on battle passes 1 through 5 maybe (or all of them up to the current one)
This feature will give everyone a fair chance (if they achive tier 99 of the next BP) to obtain something a player who dicovered the game earlier, and by chance has obtained.

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

Can I suggest a thing about fool?

#

When fool the Last one village win but if the village win fool lose

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

@full falcon I replied to a similar thing earlier today. Ofcourse its sad that you cant get them anymore, but thats how a battlepass is supposed to be, it's a limited and exclusive thing.
It's something that will split a community apart, cause they are entitled to their exlusive items.

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

Also villagers goal are killing all of the wws and solos but if jww and couple Last and couple kill jww and jww kill couple all of the ww and solos dies but its a tie

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

The paci’s role is to reveal another player. Literally to settle a fight, because he’s a pacifist. Like, it doesn’t make sense to make him die if he settles the fight (reveal one of the 2 det claims for example). It’s literally what his name says he does, it’s his only job. Maybe there’s another way to weaken his ability if more players really think paci is too op, but in my opinion, killing him when he does his job isn’t the way. 🤷🏽‍♀️

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

I like the idea of paci dying if they reveal an evil role because they are disappointed that they saved someone so heinous

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

@round rose actually it's already implemented..

#

about the fool

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

So?

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

If fool is last alive, then village wins

#

It's already in game

runic dragon Sep 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

Thats the thing. They don’t save. They settle the fight for the village to know the rights and wrongs in a situation that confuses them.

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

Yeah I know it but fool is a solo role

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

So, what's your suggestion?

#

To make it a tie?

#

when fool is last alive

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Can be

#

Or fool win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Just dont make it vilkage win

#

Village*

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

@round rose Fool's win condition is to be lynched by the village. If he doesn't die, he doesn't win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Cuz fool isnt a villager

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Ok

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

But if you want to make it a tie..

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Yeah waffleyumboy is right

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Okay

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Can be

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

@warm helm

stone basalt Sep 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

Please do TG back in Sandbox

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

Mhm?

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

A tie just like when jww kills cpl

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

suggestion from @round rose...

If fool is last one alive, make it a tie. Since its a solo role, village shouldnt win

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

Fool is a solo voting role, and if it doesnt meet the win requirements (in this case getting lynched) it wont win. So why would it become a tie when there is still someone alive. All wws are dead, the solo role is dead and all villagers are dead, the voting role wont win in any way

floral quail Sep 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

oh....

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

I didnt understand

#

I know it but it Must be a tir

#

Tie

#

Not villagers win

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

What is the reason you want to put it as a toe?

#

*tie

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

Because why wws are not winning

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

All villagers are dead

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

İts like cheating

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

Wws cant win if they all are dead GWmythsBlobGlare

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

Why the Villagers can win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

Villagers shouldnt either

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

I cant get it

#

glitch

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

The goal of the villagers is to get all dangers eliminated (wws and solo role). And that did happen, the fool is the last one alive and didnt meet his win requirement. So thats why villagers win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

This obviously something the devs overlooked in game design

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

But if jww kill the Last couple

#

All of them are die

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

Than its a tie

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

Why villagers dont win

#

All of the solos and wws are die

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

If no one is alive no one can win

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

But fool is solo

#

Not a villager

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

Pls make it consistent

#

Either have village win with all dead or have it tie with only fool left

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

Fool his goal is to get him lynched. That didnt happen, on the other side the villagers completed their requirements so thats why they win

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

Whats the wws goal?

#

Kill all the villagers

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

To be equal to the villagers and have the solo role dead

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Oh I think I get it. Ww cant win while fool is alive

#

But village can

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Ww cant be if everyone die too

#

So it Must be a tie

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Well the ww can win when fool is alive

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Seryuslix so if fool is only left its 1 non ww and 0 ww

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

If everyone dies, no one wins
When fool is the last one alive village wins because of reasons i told before

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

So we did not accomplish goal while village did

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

But it doesnt make sense they died why should be win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Ww*

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Waffle you are totally right

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

Ok thx for the help ^^

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

So what you mean?

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

Np ❤

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

I still dont get it

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

Look to my message i sended before i said waffle was totally right

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

I know but you are saying villagers goal is killing all wws and solos so when everyone dies villagers goal is okay

#

That makes sense about headhunter but not fool

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

Wait, lemme word it like this:
Wws win when they are equal to the villagers and the solo role (sk, sl or one of these)
Villagers win when they eliminated all dangers, being the wws and the solo role (like sk and zombie)
Fool his goal is to get lynched by the villagers.
With this all summed up, theres a clear thing why villagers win, there arent any treaths anymore (fulfilling the villager win requierment). The fool didnt fulfill his since he didnt get lynched. With the only team being the villagersthat fullfilled the requierement they win

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

I got it but I Just cant understand why when all of the player die villagers dont win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Because ww = villagers

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Waffleyumboy??

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

When everyone is dead, almost all or sometimes no of the requirements are fulfilled, and than it becomes a tie

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

#

But villagers requriements is finished when everyone die

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

#

There are 0 ww and 0 villagers

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

0 solo too

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

So ww requirement is full I would say

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

Ww requirement is being last

silk shale Sep 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

When everybody is dead, wws are equal to villagers but village killed all dangers. Because it is not possible that two teams win, it is a tie

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

^

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

So Im right @silk shale

#

When fool is Last it Must be tir

#

Tie

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Banana just explained everything pretty well 😄

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Yeah also wws requirement is being equal with villagers

#

So when 0 ww and 0 villagers

#

Just fool

silk shale Sep 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Fool counts as solo voting role like hh. And solo voting roles count as villagers so village wins if fool is the last one alive

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

İt Must be a tie

#

But when village win solo cant win

#

*fool

#

@warm helm you Said it 2 teams requirements are Okay so when fool is left it Must be a tie 0 ww 0 Villager

#

Wws requirement is being equal with villagers

#

0=0

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

#

I explained why village wins when the fool is the last one alive, and apart from that i explained how a tie works

#

You are combining them 😅

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

But wws requirement is clean when fool last

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

Nope, since they all died they cant win. When everyone from one team is dead, they cant win

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:19 PM

#

But wws req is being equal with villagers and Villagers is killing all dangements

#

When fool is Last 0 ww=0 villager

warm helm Sep 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

Fool still didnt fulfill his win requirement

silk shale Sep 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

Fool counts as village: ww 0 village 1.
Fool counts as solo: ww 0 solo 1

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

Im not saying fool must win

#

Oh

silk shale Sep 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

In both cases wws didnt met their win requirements

round rose Sep 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

@silk shale I got it now 😓

#

I forgt ıt must be equal with solos too

stone basalt Sep 25, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

please do back Though guy in sandbox and remove doc pls

glacial warren Sep 25, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

Tough guy is still there as random regular villager and since there are pretty strong werewolves in game right now, a doc as protection is better ^^
Even then thank you for the suggestion

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 7:54 PM

#

Actually when everyone from one team is dead they can win in theory but not literally

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:11 PM

#

In an typical scenario with 3 pacifists. The medium/jailer/gunner will be known, and by extension we assume that they will never be revealed because if a pacifist THREATENS to reveal one of them they will say not to.

Now the counterargument to this is “wait a moment blep’s mom, won’t wolves also say don’t reveal me, I’m good I swear etc?”
This isn’t actually the case. Most wolves will not respond should a pacifist threaten to reveal them. I haven’t seen the meta shift away from pacifist being able to do this yet and I’ve been with the game for two seasons.

So back to our assumption which is that med/jailer/gunner never get revealed.. so who can realistically be revealed if a pacifist threatens to reveal someone?

Let’s assume a priest will always claim.. after all he’s just waiting to water anyway he doesn’t give a stuff about staying hidden.
The 3 pacifists I will give around a 50% chance that at least one pacifist is revealed by another, which shouldn’t really happen but it does so I have to include this caveat here

That leaves these people to be revealed: Aura, det, any of the 4 wolves, fool/hh, sk/arso and doctor for a grand total of 6 evils: 3 good village roles and I would argue that a village doctor revealed day 1 is good for village but that’s another subject.

The aura and det are only likely to be revealed under the assumption that the wolves either A. Fake aura or B. Fake det.. it is highly unusual for both to be faked in a game. So let’s assume here that if an aura is revealed. The det cannot be revealed and vice versa

#

List of assumptions so far
A. Med/jailer/gunner are not revealed by pacifist
B. At most half the time, a pacifist will reveal another pacifist in a scenario where there are 3 pacifists in game
C. It is improbable that in a 3 pacifist game that both the aura and detective will be revealed

#

D Priest is never revealed by paci either

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

So can we get some percentages?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

Based on this?

#

I’ll give full disclosure here

#

A pacifist in a 3 pacifist game can reveal:
4 wolves, HH/fool, Sk/arso
2 pacifists, doctor, det or aura

By randoming as pacifist under this model alone with no other reads/factors. You will reveal someone non-village a majority of the time

#

Let’s assume that if one pacifist is revealed, then no more pacifists can be revealed?

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:20 PM

#

3 paci never happens tho

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:20 PM

#

^

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:20 PM

#

It does happen from time to time.

#

If the game can roll a village win through sheer RNG something is wrong

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:21 PM

#

Imagine getting 3 forkmen xD

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:21 PM

#

You’re right Waffle

#

There’s a major difference in village winrate with 3 pacifists to 3 forkmen

#

If a pacifist reveals another pacifist, we can take revealing two pacifists out of the pool, and thus up the odds to 6:3 which means 66% of the time when you random as pacifist you reveal an evil role

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

Is the chance of getting forkman the same as any rrv?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

As far as I know, yes

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

Yikers

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

The chance of any combination of rrv is the same

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

I love multiple paci games xd

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

So P(3 doc rvs) = P(2 doc rvs one forkman) = P(3 pacifists) = ...

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

P = probability of

#

That’s the random ww, the fool and arso found on day 1.

#

At which point it’s more or less impossible for wolves to win

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

Wolves win?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

This situation where village has an inevitable win by the end of day 1 doesn’t even happen when 2 wolves are found by det the first night. There is still wiggle room because the solo grants additional kill power

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

Rolling 3 pacifists is akin to the village instantly winning. I would happily bet money that 3 pacifist games is the rrv combo with the most village wins.

#

*- Best village win loss ratio

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

I wish we could see those types of statistics

#

Would help devs alot in balancing the game I bet

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

@wicked flume we could collate our pacifist winrates from our profile?

#

It doesn’t give the full picture. But it gives a good piece of it

#

Showing my other rv win:loss for reference

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png 📎 image2.png

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

My paci winrate is the same as village winrate. But I only play sandbox xD

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

Small sample. There is a good deal of other people’s winrates I can probably get

#

I play almost exclusively ranked

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

Thats where the extremely high village winrate comes from xD

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

Well if the ranked pool was given the quick game load out for instance the village winrate would skyrocket

#

If a helper+ would like me to provide some more evidence to the claim that the pacifist is the most beneficial rv for village. I’m happy to go get some

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

U could ping Arnaud

#

Wait jk jk

sudden dock Sep 25, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

📎 PicsArt_09-25-04.43.41.jpg

#

Lmao add a mouth section

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

Lmaoo I was 20-2 but I get gamethrowers or gunner med dies N1 as paci I swear I’m cursed

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

werewolf did someone say they were cursed_human

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

What is the ideal ww winrate the devs want?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:48 PM

#

I’m not sure they have a goal. But the intended winrate imo is proportional to how many members each team has

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:48 PM

#

Now it’s 36-9

#

I’m 42-5 as gg tho

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:49 PM

#

Sound logic

#

25% that means?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:49 PM

#

10 villagers
4 wolves
1 hh/fool
1 solo
62.5%
25%
6.25%
6.25%

#

I see the majority of good players win fool/HH games 1:2 win loss

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:51 PM

#

Hh has higher winrate than fool tho

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:51 PM

#

That’s around 33% of the time

#

Yes well that happens when you can still win after target dying

#

You can’t win if your target (yourself) dies as fool

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:52 PM

#

Also ppl say hh is too good for village team?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:52 PM

#

HH is always better for village than fool

#

HH can provide an extra vote in most circumstances according to his win condition. The fool doesn’t have to and usually won’t side village

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:53 PM

#

Does that mean devs will make it gamethrowing to reveal ur target / dont turn hh into village?

#

Or do they enjoy rng based games?

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:54 PM

#

Kinda buns paci winrate

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

#

I was lynched as paci and shot as paci in won games

#

But I was 20-2 at one point just recently there were some rly dumb ppl

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:54 PM

#

Afaik revealing your target as hh isn’t reportable currently but it is definitely frowned upon in ranked

#

You’ve also being lynched as paci in losing village games xD

#

been*

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:55 PM

#

IT WASNT LOSING AT ALL

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:55 PM

#

It was a loss after you were mislynched 😂

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:55 PM

#

Yup mislynch = loss

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:55 PM

#

I was wolf the game where BP was lynched as paci and wolves won

#

In some cases yes Waffle but usually not

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:56 PM

#

Well 2 would certainly seal the deal?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:57 PM

#

If it’s a day 1/2 mislynch it usually outs a ton of wolves. Any later in the game is quite bad for village

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:57 PM

#

Right

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:57 PM

#

I WAS ALSO SHOT YESTERDAY BY A GUNNER WHO THEN SUICIDED

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:57 PM

#

In theory wolves need to make two mislynches/bullets hit village in order to win

#

At the core of this game it’s all about numbers.

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

What about mayor?

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

That’s why if there’s one wolf and 4 villagers left you should just give up because even if you mislynch you can’t win

#

Mayor is more or less a pacifist that self reveals.

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

Bro skip any games prizmatic is in she shoots pacis who revealed and claimed before reveal

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

Which is one less person than any common sense pacifist reveals

#

Prizmatic gets too stressed playing ranked imo. I’ve tried to give them advice once or twice before

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

Mayor reveals and dies to solo next day

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

I know they really hate being gunner

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

I love being gunner 😃

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

^ me too

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

I feel ur evil I shoot

#

I go by feel and get reported by rvs who don’t claim and r dead silent

#

Yeet

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 9:01 PM

#

So mm is just nerfed gunner?

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:02 PM

#

😦

#

Kinda

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 9:03 PM

#

Im wondering if mm can be rrv

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:03 PM

#

It is

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 9:04 PM

#

Lol I just havent seen it yet

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 9:05 PM

#

MM is definitely rv

#

Most MMs only get the one shot before the game is won or lost.. that’s why I think witch is actually better for village

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 9:06 PM

#

Duh

wicked flume Sep 25, 2019, 9:06 PM

#

Mm is what arso claims to buy time

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 9:07 PM

#

I can’t claim MM the way I play evil claiming MM

#

I will just die at day 3

#

or day 4.. depending on how convincing I am :^)

sudden dock Sep 25, 2019, 9:16 PM

#

why did you guys send all of these messages in feedback-

golden wyvern Sep 25, 2019, 9:17 PM

#

Who's gonna stop us >:)

craggy dagger Sep 25, 2019, 9:20 PM

#

It’s all semi-related if you read the thread @sudden dock

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 10:01 PM

#

@sudden dock not really needed, mouths would still go over beards probably, and if they didnt, you wouldnt see them 🤔

#

@golden wyvern I would, if it wasnt already quiet 👀

#

@wicked flume I would prefer if you dont just post loads of screenshots of paci games here, cause those are not helping your point either. Summarizing your ideas helps, I am willing to read super long feedbacks but i draw the line at random game footage...

#

@charred kiln Sorry the reply took a lot longer than I planned... I will post a very shortened version of your reasoning, together with the 3 options in #feedback-devs and we'll jst see how it goes from there. I dont 100% agree with everything you say, but definately enough to get the topic noticed.
I dont know if any of those options still include the vote-cancel or not though, thats a little unexplored there...
esp your option, paci dies when revealing, but does the vote happen then or is death the price?

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

#

I'm sorry for starting with this again...

I understood the reasons and so on, but I think it's unfair to the fool if the village win if he's the last one alive.

I know he counts as villager because he's a solo voting role, but he isn't a real villager. HH can become a villager but for the fool it's impossible to win with the village.

I suggest to add something to the village win conditions: 1 villager have to be alive

or make fool a real solo role (not counting for ww win condition) so it don't count as villager anymore, because fool is also allowed to work with ww if he is revealed and do whatever he want as long as it's fair and friendly.

my wish: make it a tie when fool is last one alive

You don't have to repeat what was explained in the discussion above. If you don't want to add it in #feedback-devs you can just ignore it, because then I know the reason...

📎 IMG_20190926_001658.jpg

quaint bramble Sep 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

#

I think you should ping Sonblo for that, I dont really wanna mingle in your discussion and counter their response with my own opinions ^^

solar dew Sep 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

#

Okay :3

#

@warm helm

opaque pollen Sep 25, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

Sonblo may take awhile to respond given timezones and time for sleep 👍

solar dew Sep 26, 2019, 12:37 AM

#

Yeah I know. I have to sleep too imao. It's. 02:37

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 1:07 AM

#

📎 PicsArt_09-25-09.07.17.jpg

#

Believe it or not, this is not in game footage lol

#

so um you should add this

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:13 AM

#

@sudden dock add what exactly? All the things listed there are in game

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 1:13 AM

#

The "Do not show again" button is not.

golden wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 1:17 AM

#

lol once again this helper is proving the brains in their possession

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:18 AM

#

@sudden dock Was that a joke? I dont really get what you mean

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 1:19 AM

#

No

#

📎 Screenshot_20190925-195711_Werewolf_Online.jpg

#

^original image

#

Don't mind the youtube window lmao

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:22 AM

#

it only shows up when you tap on the clan button, so to not show it again, you just dont tap the clan button? 👀

#

It's there to inform people how it works, so it makes sense to be there. Clans used to be kinda confusing cause they werent explained at all

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 1:23 AM

#

I was just talking about how you shouldn't have that pop up when going into the clan window

#

Just an idea, it would bring you to the clans screen

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:23 AM

#

it stops showing if you join a clan, caue ive never seen that before

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 1:24 AM

#

Yea i know

#

why is the rose wheel only 1 loot box

#

i dont know... 1 loot box doesn't seem equivalent to 30 roses... you know?

#

and 1 banner for 30 roses?

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

Add what tier you are to your profile. Just afun way to show it off. I suggested this a while ago (multiple months) and somebody said it was useless lol

round rose Sep 26, 2019, 3:50 AM

#

I agree with @sudden dock about fool thing. I think villagers goal must be change. At least 1 villager must be alive.

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 4:33 AM

#

Don't allow non-developers react with BugSolved or FeedbackApproved in #feedback-devs and #bugs-devs .

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 4:42 AM

#

@sudden dock hey ^^ this has been suggested and was declined because it's just to show off ^^ it's useless yes
Thank you for your suggestion anyways catpaw

#

@runic dragon we already talked about it in the staff and in our opinion it is okay, since you can check if a dev added this reaction or not

slender nimbus Sep 26, 2019, 6:30 AM

#

...

opaque pollen Sep 26, 2019, 8:23 AM

#

@slender nimbus Do you have any game feedback? helpbot

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 8:37 AM

#

This what happen when you tie in ranked, Even a lose is a better than losing that much points
@quaint bramble

📎 Screenshot_2019-09-14-03-31-32.png

#

So instead pf losing points we should gain a small amount of skill (7~15) as a tie never a bad thing most of the times

lament frigate Sep 26, 2019, 8:45 AM

#

add a rule making it so adding "ping for help" to ur name is bannable cuz thst shit is cancerous af

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 8:49 AM

#

cough

#

No, I disagree with that idea 😂

opaque pollen Sep 26, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

It's technical staff impersonation in the #rules-archived :-(

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 9:00 AM

#

I have a suggestion, it's not so useful but i think when the game ends, a quote should appear. Either real life quotes or like wwo related ones idk. Just a fun addition.

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 9:44 AM

#

I have a suggestion to add a News feature. It would appear as a newspaper 🗞
And when players click it, they see recent updates and changes

uncut tusk Sep 26, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

@runic dragon Hello, it has been suggested many times before, thanks for your feedback😄

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 9:51 AM

#

@runic dragon Emanuel recently liked a feedback for a patch notes channel on Discord, perhaps when thats a success we can also ask to add it to the game :)

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 10:24 AM

#

📎 PicsArt_09-26-06.24.08.jpg

#

make the battle pass gold when you finish it

vernal dune Sep 26, 2019, 10:26 AM

#

Simple but nice @sudden dock , added to #feedback-devs 😁

sudden dock Sep 26, 2019, 10:29 AM

#

🎉

high quest Sep 26, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

I want to suggest something, can you load only last 100 msgs (in the chat) and make a button to load the rest. its annoying to scroll down so much when i want to send a message to a friend.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

To me the more logical fix would be that it automatically opens on the latest messages intead of the oldest, and I believe thats been suggested before ^^

drowsy yarrow Sep 26, 2019, 11:01 AM

#

can you add the number of the remaining add available next to the gold

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:05 AM

#

@drowsy yarrow I dont think there's an accurate number for that, since ads may run out before you reach the game's limit of 100, based on your ad provider.

drowsy yarrow Sep 26, 2019, 11:09 AM

#

how about the roses you have available for trade next to the gold

#

the ones you can send not receive

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:13 AM

#

i think the received roses makes more sense to be there, since they are both currency

drowsy yarrow Sep 26, 2019, 11:14 AM

#

i would like to know how many i have so i can send to friends

#

but i can only see that in game

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:14 AM

#

you can aslo see it in your inventory > items > roses tab

drowsy yarrow Sep 26, 2019, 11:15 AM

#

forgot about that

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:38 AM

#

I wish dev fixed rank too much newbie get in det game :) stop it , we want seariusly ranked game :) no more water random , shoot random, sucide beacuse boring role , afk .... ( Pls fixx 4 k point for det game pls )

#

1700 is just tooo easy to get it

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:42 AM

#

Any idea how to fix it? Cause a lot of people that play seriusly actually find it hard to get up there, so idk how bad players manage it

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:44 AM

#

@quaint bramble you need 100 win to join rank :/ ( 0-> 3000 point seer game ) (<3000 for det game )

#

Give them a warning for who don't do anything in 3 day ( vote, choose who to bite,stab,sect,checked,Revive.... ) ( they afk bc lazy to play , i seen alot of them )

normal wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 11:47 AM

#

Auto banned is a bit hard..

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:47 AM

#

Warning i think

normal wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 11:48 AM

#

sometimes you have a bad connection and can't do anything against it..

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:49 AM

#

jww_hey

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:51 AM

#

You can report for afk people and suicides in ranked, to encourage the serious gameplay

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:51 AM

#

@quaint bramble Too many of them now i can't report all

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 11:52 AM

#

The increased requirement to join ranked is been suggested very often, the skill points border sounds like a decent idea

crimson gazelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:53 AM

#

Yep, i think that will make det game harder

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 12:41 PM

#

I got one specific nerf for paci: If they reveal a good role, they will be unable to vote for maybe 2 day, maybe 3, maybe even permanent, but I will stay for 2 as of now. Or the reverse, mute them(but muting is still useless , so unable to vote might be the best)

#

(to be included in the nerf Pacifist pact lol)

#

It would be like a shame on pacifist that they revealed a good role , and people would blame them ~~really similar to irl wwo in fact lol~~

#

And they will be hiding in their house, either muted or just simply hate the crowd GWahreeVampySmug

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 1:20 PM

#

Helloo it would be nice to get some sort of overview about the quests that are currently available by shuffling. Mostly because I often wonder where people get certain outfit items from, but also because it gives us the chance of weighing in if shuffling is “worth it”.

lofty perch Sep 26, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

The Symbols (👍 and 👎) showing wether people participate in quests are not very easy to tell apart on first sight. Maybe replace them with something easier to see like 👍 and ❌?

📎 Screenshot_2019-09-26-15-24-49.png

#

Could you also implement a button like "step down from being co-leader"?

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 1:45 PM

#

Why do anyone wrote:"They are the Arsonist." But it is always one human.

📎 Screenshot_20190926-153909.png

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:46 PM

#

@runic dragon It's gender neutral ^^

#

otherwise you'd have he/she

#

@lofty perch Good idea, I will post it!

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 1:47 PM

#

It can be make with the gender.
Male: He
Women: She
Both: It

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:48 PM

#

They is much simpler and is becoming a widely accepted gender neutral term

#

most messages in the game are slowly changing to this

#

@serene lotus So you mean somewhere in the game should be a list of all clan quests available? because shuffle includes literally all of them.
I don;t know if it's a fair or fun idea to show all the upcoming outfits on it, yes you can get them from a shuffle but that's kind of meant as a bonus thing.

wicked flume Sep 26, 2019, 1:52 PM

#

Can we buff zombies?

#

Like why do zombies die to ww.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:52 PM

#

@silver ruin I dont like the muting, but not being able to vote is an interesting fix 🤔
Could you check with Arsonist what he thinks about that, if its suitable for ranked, mix some opinions and all that

#

@wicked flume I am not going to do this with you again. No.

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 1:53 PM

#

Buffing zombies nope

#

Never

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 1:53 PM

#

@quaint bramble yes that‘s what I mean. All of the quests that are available in shuffling will get to the „normal“ quests anyway, it just takes some time. Shuffling is just a way of doing these quests before they get available to everyone, so it‘s not as if we wouldn‘t get to see them anyway

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:54 PM

#

@ Buff Paci If you have a feedback, be serious and give some solid ideas and arguments. No trolling sarcasm mode.

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 1:54 PM

#

which arsonist tho

#

in game or here?

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:54 PM

#

the guy on discord lol

#

he wrote the big paci thing in #feedback-devs

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 1:55 PM

#

i just think that it would also be appealing to get to see them because maybe more people would shuffle then, but having literally no idea about what you might get from shuffling makes many clan-leaders „fear“ wasting money

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 1:55 PM

#

@charred kiln how do you think, if paci were to given a nerf via the direction of unable to vote instead of well, instantly dies

#

(if they reveal a good role, that is)

#

maybe 2 day, maybe more

charred kiln Sep 26, 2019, 1:56 PM

#

Im not a big fan of that sorry

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 1:56 PM

#

It would be just a nerfed priest if it dies tbf

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 1:56 PM

#

oof

#

~~thats fast~~

charred kiln Sep 26, 2019, 1:56 PM

#

Ofc its a nerf so it would be fine by me since the devs wouldnt do anything now

#

I think

#

I dont want u to feel u make bad ideas sorry

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 1:57 PM

#

@serene lotus showing what you might get also could lead to disappointment if you get 3 older quests
Since the shuffle isnt guaranteed to include an upcoming outfit

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 1:59 PM

#

Yes of course. I just thought that it might help to decide if you wanna shuffle or not. But thank you anyway cute_heart

solar dew Sep 26, 2019, 2:18 PM

#

I suggested this before and Emanuel himself told me he would add this, but this is months ago and @serene lotus suggested something similar so I repost :33

Add a (picture) list of all clan quests that are ig.

Because I understand the argument of majestical bug apprentice I have two ways it could be and choosed by the Devs:

All quest, also the ones that are completely new and wasn't in the normal quest shuffle at Tuesday till then.
All quest that were in the clan shop, but not the ones who are new and you only can get by shuffling.

Reasons:
You can ask the clan for a wish list and everyone can wish one outfit they want, so if this outfit is available the (co-) leader(s) can start with the new quest directly and don't have to wait till the clan made a voting and got a winner, because sometimes you lose a lot of time with this.

It's good to know how much quest you don't have.

I thought I had more reasons but I don't get them now

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 2:31 PM

#

oops i was gonna change that ebfore posting it, but didnt save

#

@solar dew eh fair enough, i will post it

#

@solar dew I wanna leave out the reasons-part because it sounds like youre suggesting a new wishlist feature too, and might be too much to add on to one idea
And i added my own option to your 2 as well 👀 sorry fr double ping

solar dew Sep 26, 2019, 3:00 PM

#

Yeah it's okay that you removed this.

And I really love your option :3

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 3:25 PM

#

Thanks you dev

#

I doesn't found my bugs anymore

#

I win in rank and my score go up now

#

😊

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:31 PM

#

I still highly suggest that the first night protection should be removed asap. Nearly once in every 3 times, the target we attack first night is being randomly protected which in turn gives total advantage to village and we lose.

#

We attacked seer first night and we was protected. Then later on it's almost impossible to kill seer since there is doc and bg

runic dragon Sep 26, 2019, 3:31 PM

#

Its already in feedback devs i believe

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:32 PM

#

I think at the extreme least doctor shouldn't be allowed first night protect, coz in turn bg or witch will lose their shield and potion, so atleast that makes an impact.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:32 PM

#

We added it there, there's nothing else we can do for you

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:33 PM

#

You didn't add the full explanation as I requested earlier. But nvm I just hope someone gets it

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:33 PM

#

It had way more dislikes than likes, and even then, it;s ultimately up to the devs

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:34 PM

#

That's exactly the point why I'm asking to post the full explanation that answers all the doubts people have. Then you'll watch the likes go above dislikes

#

Anyways I had another point to discuss about. Cursed is by far the most boring role in the game. He literally just votes for the team he's in. Guys any suggestions how this role can be improved?

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:35 PM

#

Look at feedback-devs, we dont post wall of texts will full explanations

#

I have offered to post a summary, and thats all there is to this topic now

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:36 PM

#

Alright then I'll make a short summary if you insist.

#

Another suggestion I had is to add a sound effect when you're getting your role. Like a spinning casino wheel sound effect.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:38 PM

#

It's not about me, dont make this about me. you insist on coming back with the same feedback

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 3:39 PM

#

@quaint bramble you misinterpreted what I meant but nevermind. No need to take everything that seriously and literally man.

#

So yeah about the sounds, when we get our role we should hear the related sound to the role, e.g. gunner - gunshot, ww - howl, etc.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:40 PM

#

We have a channel for sound ideas, it;s called #sound-ideas
It sounds like a fun suggestion

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:44 PM

#

@serene lotus @solar dew bcuz u dont follow me i post all clan quests in game

solar dew Sep 26, 2019, 3:46 PM

#

You didn't posted all available clan quest...

#

And your account is just a spoiler account sooooo ... Just something for monaps

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

who want to see old quest

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

all quest does include old ones ^^'

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

GWlulurdWaitWhat and wow ur suggestion is not spoiler

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

but maybe tkae this to #wov-chat

#

only 1 of the 3 is a spoiler btw >.>

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

@quaint bramble not really which you cant start them without shuffle is new like pug

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

I did not understand that sentence..

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

i mean the outfits which you get them every 7 days its new outfit

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

yeah i know?

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

then

📎 unknown.png

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 3:53 PM

#

but anyway, you got a nice insta account but thats not a game feature so the feedback is fine as it is right now

#

I mean if you didnt post all old ons, you dont have all quests on the page

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

haha ik and im going to do that

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

@latent saddle i follow you but i was talkin bout a ig option sadcat

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

@serene lotus GWinfxHeart aha i got ur feedback

serene lotus Sep 26, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

feelsfunny happycat

placid cove Sep 26, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

So today in a game, after doc died seer said he will check 4 and emote if evil. 2 bh said it was against the rules and cheating but 4 jailer said it was not cheating and it was a smart move. I reported both of them cuz they were high level players and should know it was cheating. So it got me thinking, as long as people can emote at night, they will use it and will even use the pretense that it's okay to emote like that. So I think people should only be able to emote first night. This way they can't do that. If it is too much to remove emoting at night I suggest those get reported and banned for this get a lock on their acc for a duration after ban that they can't emote as punishment. Say for a month or two. And if repeated, and they don't get a perma ban, then the punishment duration will be increased as well.

solar dew Sep 26, 2019, 4:28 PM

#

It was already suggested to remove them from night. Idk what get out of it I just know I don't like it.

What I like is your other idea, that the emotes will be blocked if you're reported for doing this cute_heart GWeniPopcorn

normal wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 4:39 PM

#

Well, I'd like to have an option where you can search for certain items in the avatar section. If you have a lot, it will get confusing in the long run and you might miss them. I would have imagined it that way:

In the inventory you have an icon which looks like a magnifying glass (see picture). If you click on this magnifying glass, a menu appears, where you can select certain things and these items are then filtered. Maybe by color or gender, maybe Special Offer or not? If you now click on "Okay" or "Search", all the items you own or possibly have will appear, depending on which mode you are in, whether preview mode or normal. This might make it a bit easier to find certain items.

📎 Screenshot_20190330-113437.png

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:40 PM

#

feedback: if at least 50% of the village reports gamethrowers, and village loses, can the points loss be given back to us?

I have been losing a lot to gamethrowers but seriously I can't tell if they are pure stupid or really gamethrowing

I was aura, I have been saying info every single day
ppl left: me, gun w one bullet, jailer w bullet, arso, doc, one ww
me: 14 (arso) unk
14: lie im doc
me: gun shoot 14 if 14 not jailer plz. 14 unk, either arso or jailer
gun: what are you?
me: I am aura, 14 unk
gun proceeds to shoot me
they didn't vote that day
jailer jails 14, doesn't kill (wtf?)
next day: 14 claim doc, I jailed him
2(real doc): I saved gunner
idk why, but everyone lynched 2(wtp??)
jailer jail killed arso, ww won

(this is ranked match btw)

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:41 PM

#

i think you should partially return of the rank point instead of all of the rank point

#

like 10-30% of it

#

maybe more if more gamethrower exist

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:41 PM

#

it's not fair to the village who played really well, and lose just because ppl gamethrow and that match costed 45 points AND 5 gold

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:41 PM

#

because its still partially villager fault that they would lose tho

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

@silver ruin read the above, how is it villager fault that we lost because of an idiotic gun and jailer??

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

again , partially

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

I said so clearly, I am aura, 14 unk, if 14 not jailer, shoot 14

#

WHY SHOOT ME WHEN 14 DIDNT TALK THE ENTIRE GAME

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

trust is also a factor

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

that one still nvm. Isn't it clear that 14 was arso to jailer?? why didn't jailer jail kill arso then??? they could win so easily that way

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

if they trust a person , its partially the luck bases thing

#

and its definately villager fault for not remembering your info

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

please , that is pure gamethrowing

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

If you think they did it on purpose, report them

#

this is not a report-rant place

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

@quaint bramble in case you didn't realise, sir, my feedback is upstairs

normal wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

Now my feedback got flooded GWgoaSadness

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

I know it is m'sheep

#

But i want to stop the flooding before all is drowned

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

Feedback by sheep: If at least 50% of the village reports gamethrowers, and village loses, can the points loss be given back to us?

My extra feedback:I think you should partially return of the rank point instead of all of the rank point
like 10-30% of it
maybe more if more gamethrower exist(not removed from the wolves)

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

ye and im just saying it's not other villagers fault when the gamethrowers have bullets and live till the end only for village to face with a devastating loss

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:47 PM

#

@placid cove personally I do not care of emotes and they might as well be removed completely imo, but they are meant to be fun, if nobody can use them what's the point?
I do think the emote lock is a good idea, Idk if that would be difficult technically, but I am gonna add it to #feedback-devs
And please do report anyone who uses it, even if they claim its not against the rules or pretend that they dont know

#

@normal wyvern I will check if for you later, but I am pretty sure that things like filters for the inventory have been suggested before

normal wyvern Sep 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

okay but still thanks happycat

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

return 50% at least
winning as villager is +20 on average
losing to ww abt -45
a game that could be so easily won, even -22 is a great loss

if ww/solo played well ye I have nothing to say but gj but if it is villagers gamethrowing like no one's business then I care

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

Its still partially villager fault in most situation where gamethrowing would take an adverse turn

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

ye, the gamethrowing villager's fault

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

Your feedback is very much saturated by your anger about this specific match, and we cannot judge if they were just stupid or gamethrowing, or overthinking it 🤔

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

definitely gamethrowing

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

yes ok stop raging about that part please, keep it out of your feedback cause i dont want to deal with that. I want to look at a calm and objective feedback idea and not 'change this cause ppl gamethrow reeee'

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

i mean , theres like 10 villager exist, if it took just 1 person that gamethrows for the game to take such an adverse turn to be ended as other role to win, then its still partially villager fault for losing

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

most of that village got burned by arso sadly

#

:/

#

@quaint bramble meanwhile, you're also ignoring my calm and objective idea

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

cause i keep having to look at angery comments

#

and its giving me headache

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:53 PM

#

~~added in personal feedback just for balancing things~~

#

~~we dont need so much free rank~~

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:53 PM

#

||you can don't look and leave it to the other helpers to look||

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

#

Yeah if you could repost it in an hour or so without the ranting, that would be nice

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

#

||and didn't the Devs add in the gold penalty to avoid gamethrowers which btw doesn't work||

#

that game was done 2 days ago

#

I considered it for a long time

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 4:55 PM

#

in reality I doubt you would get 8 people reporting, a lot of people just log off after gamethrowers rui n things

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:56 PM

#

just so happens, out of 8 villagers dead, 7 were watching for the outcome

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 4:56 PM

#

i mean, if a gamethrower exist instead of 50%

#

~~thou they still need to verified to be gamethrowing~~

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

entire village was screaming for reporting of gun n jailer

#

sadcat

#

feedback: if at least 50% of the village reports gamethrowers, and village loses, can the points lost (about 50% of it) be given back to us?

and/or

when more than half the village reports someone for gamethrowing , auto ban the player for 5 days

I have been losing a lot to gamethrowers but seriously I can't tell if they are pure stupid or really gamethrowing

example:
I was aura, I have been saying info every single day
ppl left: me, gun w one bullet, jailer w bullet, arso, doc, one ww
me: 14 (arso) unk
14: lie im doc
me: gun shoot 14 if 14 not jailer plz. 14 unk, either arso or jailer
gun: what are you?
me: I am aura, 14 unk
gun proceeds to shoot me
they didn't vote that day
jailer jails 14, doesn't kill (wtf?)
next day: 14 claim doc, I jailed him
2(real doc): I saved gunner
idk why, but everyone lynched 2(wtp??)
jailer jail killed arso, ww won

(this is ranked match btw)

#

back to my suggestion^

silver ruin Sep 26, 2019, 5:00 PM

#

replay system is for like guardian

#

they do have access to it

#

but certainly not common player base

meager gyro Sep 26, 2019, 5:11 PM

#

@ornate sun After all its a game with the aim to trick people and lie (as long as you follow rules)
I think your suggestion could be easily abused to regain points -> villagers are always the majority
Thanks for sharing your ideas CuteHeart

#

@mighty cypress yup! Guardians can see the logs and players can use the game chat after game or the list where they can see who had which role 😅
Thanks for the suggestion 9_BunnyLove

placid cove Sep 26, 2019, 5:18 PM

#

@quaint bramble well I do understand the emotes are for fun that's why I suggested nights with no emoting way first. I want to deliver this point to the devs, the emoting should not affect the game, if it does it cause a huge change in the game and changes the gameplay entirely. So I think they must make a choice if they would implement this change and allow it (which I think should not be done cuz it will cause a huge disadvantage to ww and solo roles) or not allow it cuz it's not a part of gameplay. But I understand a lot of players like the emote system and it will be difficult to block emoting at night so recommended the punishment.

ornate sun Sep 26, 2019, 5:19 PM

#

@meager gyro I understand, however, that gunner and jailer was unacceptable, they gamethrowed like nobody's business

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 5:26 PM

#

@placid cove hey ^^ I don't want to lie so ye I just read your first suggestion. Basically it already has been suggested before to change it so you're not able to use emotes at night. But to be honest this is not really useful, since emotes are for fun, as maje said.

placid cove Sep 26, 2019, 5:27 PM

#

Oh and I also think you should implement a punishment on clans that cheat. The other day I played a game I was seer and found 2 ww. I said 2 was ww but we couldn't lynch her cuz many people followed who 2 voted. I noticed 1 and 3 did that same and checked 1 and found 1 bh so I said 1 was bh so that they will know I was seer but still 1 followed 2 and lynched villager. Ww won the game in that manner. When game ended I checked and said to report 1, 2 and 3 cuz they were from the same clan. But other ww defended saying 2 and 3 were ww and it was not gamethrow. So I checked 1, 2 and 3 profile and it seemed 1 and 3 were new accs. They didn't talk at all and 2 did all the talking. So which led me to believe either teaming or multi-accs. I suggest people who do this and in same clan gets a punishment to the clan. Like clan quest needs 50% more exp, if repeated 75% more and such. And also some way to inform people that defending cheaters is to be reported too cuz many people seems to think it's not a problem.

#

If that's the case, if the emoting prob is not solved or greatly reduced, will you guys consider it. Cuz this is a game. You implement an emote system to make it fun. But that is having an effect on the fun of the game itself

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 5:33 PM

#

@placid cove in this suggestion now, I see the problem with clans and cheating. Yes it's right, that there is many teaming right now and that's a huge problem the guardians have to handle.
There are two suggestions I can remember. The first is, that you should be able to report clans ( link to the post in #feedback-devs: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/612998548580990997)
And another suggestion, which includes xp...
Your suggestion is not really fair, since you should not punish the whole clan if one person is multi accounting... Also it's pretty hard to see, if it's really clan teaming or normal teaming. It would probably lead to many problems.
I don't think the idea is that bad, but think about the cons in this.

placid cove Sep 26, 2019, 5:41 PM

#

Okay I accept punishing the whole clan is a problem. But clanmates teaming and cheating is something that happens. The incentive of that are clan quest. So I thought putting penalty on clan will be a good enough punishment. In that case a I suggest clan should be notified if a player or players cheat while clan quest are active. Of this repeats with the same clan I suggest you implement a punishment. This way by informing clan about the cheating, you are giving the clan a chance to stop the cheaters. I know this system I am suggesting isn't perfect. But I do hope you get the general idea of what I am suggesting. If a thief steals something, you don't let them keep it when you catch them. So warm the clans and if the clan repeats, they should get a penalty of some sort. It's my suggestion. It might help bring more fair play.

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

Remove an a amount of their gold lol

placid cove Sep 26, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

That's also good but I'm saying exp cuz you can get gold by donating if I'm not wrong. So it doesn't have as much of an effect as a penalty on exp

lament frigate Sep 26, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

make it so only like lvl 15s or smthn can apply for roles cuz randoms becoming various important roles is pretty stupid lmfao

latent saddle Sep 26, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

apply for roles?

lament frigate Sep 26, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

trial helper, mentor, guardian

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

Might be a good idea to suggest to Lisa, since as helper i dont really influence that decision nor can i put it on the devs channel cause it's not for the devs

lament frigate Sep 26, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

someone forward it to her, i dont care enough to lmao

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

@meager gyro Sorry for ping, here's an idea about staff applications

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

Yeah this is also Discord related, but what if you opened more positions for certain sectors. That way you could cover more ground easily and wouldn't have to jump from section to section if there is a lot of activity. If it makes sense lol

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

they're already trying to expand the team by having the trial applications back2back

safe python Sep 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Ohh okey dokey then

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

it really wouldnt work to hold applications for higher roles

#

And i can say from personal experience, it helps to have a trial period, to familiarize the new staff with their job
which would be hard to do if we got like 10 trials at the time

full falcon Sep 26, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

The possibility to select multiple players from your friend list, to maybe send a broadcast message and/or remove them (instead of going through each of their profiles and doing it separately)

abstract stone Sep 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

#

I'd like nicknames to be implemented so I can remember who's who as some ppl change names often

#

Also I'd think itd be cool if zodiac signs were player icons

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

@full falcon heyo ^^ you mean a message you can send so many players get it right? I like the idea and would like to post it in #feedback-devs. Do you have anything to add?

#

@abstract stone hello AYAYAHey
The first thing already has been suggested before. A few times tho ^^ I really like the idea and I hope it gets added 💡
The second one... I think this is already in work 🤔 I remember something you could use for libra in the battle pass. I know what you mean, but it depends on the person which designs these Fluffy_zwinker
Thank you for both suggestions ^^

full falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Yes. And that would be possible by being able to select multiple people in your friend's list (by maybe long pressing on someone's name?), and then the option to remove/send a message to all. @glacial warren

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Yes I undetood this Fluffy_zwinker thank you for the suggestion rooBoop

lapis drum Sep 26, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

I’ve been playing this game non-stop since I started this month and have been blazing through ranked. I’m now gold and realizing that gold league is stacked against ww. Village gets mandatory doc and 2 seeing roles (det and aura) while ww are only guaranteed a seer with no protective roles in ranked. Ww win also depends hugely on the competence of the match’s killer. In fact, I think I’ve seen solo killers win more in gold league than ww. The ww should either get one protective role or 2 rww. Or village should get a softer role/less rvv. These may not work, but my general point is that ww have their work cut out for then in ranked the most out of all the teams.

#

I forgot to add that village having 3 rrv increases their chances by adding more seers/protectors

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 7:29 PM

#

i have a suggestion about the Cupid role

Cupid will belong to the same team as his couple

Reasons: cupid can win if his couple are the last to live or with village
what if the cupid choose 2 wolfs to be couple? it's not common but it sure happen
in this case the cupid can just say who is the wolfs and kill 2/4 in the first day only!! he wont care because he is still able to win with village right?

but if the cupid became in the wolfs team in order not to leak then its good

Update:

if cupid couple both village then cupid will belong to village
if cupid couple both wolfs then cupid will belong to wolfs
if cupid couple are different then cupid shall stay villager as if he leak the evil role a villager will die so its lose for both teams

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 7:33 PM

#

@lapis drum heyo BlobHello thank you for this long feedback and explanation bcaHappy7Thanks
I understand your point and also the problems. Basically this is not only in ranked, but in sandbox and quick game too. It already has been suggested before to change these things RaphiThumbsUp

lapis drum Sep 26, 2019, 7:34 PM

#

Yea, that’s true. My main concern was ranked only cuz when I see ww, I think “automatic skill loss”

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 7:36 PM

#

Just a spontaneous idea but maybe Cursed could be added to the rrv, it has the chance of giving the wolves a higher winning chance atleast. And after all Cursed is still villager until attacked

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 7:37 PM

#

@normal jungle heyo ^^ this idea is really nice, but since the cupid is not allowed to reveal his couple or act against it, it's pretty useless. A cupid doesn't know, if his couple is evil or good and like this he can't leak two wws.

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 7:37 PM

#

And it would spice the rv things up xD

#

And maybe regulr ww removed from the random wolves because they are already weak enough

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 7:40 PM

#

@willow zinc hmm I don't think this would be that good tho ^^' I understand what you mean, since the wws are pretty weak. This has been complained about many times. But even if I don't like it I will post it in #feedback-devs DaVinciWink
The second thing is a no. Random is random and there are basically all wolves. Thank you for both suggestions bceThanks

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

This has probably been said before but I'll go ahead and put it up again, couples shouldn't win with their individual team unless they die or are both villagers/ww to prevent one of them only trying to win with their team

#

Sesperate Feedback, paci shouldn't be able to reveal before voting on day 1 like how gunner can't shoot

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:06 PM

#

@willow zinc @glacial warren Please dont add cursed to rrv. The existence of a cursed is actually anti village. If he really wants to play to his win condition he should just suicide if he wants to play optimally. Not if he wants to win the most as the role.. but if he wants to stick to his village win condition then suiciding is technically the best option

#

If he is turned village loses a vote and wolves gain a vote. Do you see how problematic this is?

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:06 PM

#

being jailed would actually be best, but I support cursed as rrv

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:06 PM

#

@craggy dagger you can react to the feedback in #feedback-devs

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:06 PM

#

I’ve done that

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:07 PM

#

Good ^^

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:07 PM

#

I’m also voicing my strong opinion against this suggestion.

#

Im adamant this suggestion is horrid

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:08 PM

#

@craggy dagger you can give feedback and I really appreciate it, but it is in #feedback-devs and I won't delete it

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:08 PM

#

Village need balance, this helps that in sandbox

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:08 PM

#

Aha just read up. I see you have foreseen this

#

I don’t want it deleted. I want people to be aware of why it’s not a great suggestion

#

Kayo are there rrvs in sandbox?

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:09 PM

#

Should be 1.

#

Also ranked has 3

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:09 PM

#

Ranked is my main game mode

#

3 curseds in game is 3 more potential wolves

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

That's an incredibly low chance

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

Well suiciding is basically gamethrowing and would result in a ban and making the ww stronger is pretty much the point behind the idea because ww are way to weak

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

It still happens

#

I had a big discussion about this the other day

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

1 in a million is negligible chances

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

happens as well as 3 docs or bg what makes ww win impossible

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

1 in a million is an exaggeration

#

I had a discussion about this yesterday

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:11 PM

#

I know, just making my point, melo has a good one too

#

Sure, but I'm not planning on rereading it

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

The chance actually is 1:5832

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

Assume village wins all games with 3 pacifists (a somewhat shaky suggestion at worst, predictable at best) then village can win the game by pure RNG

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

I think that is bearable

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

why not make a suggestion that only 2 RRV of the 3 can be the same? all win in this case

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

And now think about the chance getting 3 protectors

pallid merlin Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

That's been suggested before, thanks for your concern ^^

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

That has been suggested and not added as far as I’m aware

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

Pssssst, staff people, say something about my suggestions

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

there is nothing we can do about it then, afaik

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

chance of getting 3 protectors as rv is 1:1152

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

What’s the main rationale behind not considering that supporting that suggestion?

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

what is worse?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

3 forkman

limpid hound Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

...

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

Also 3 protectors is a very good thing for village esp in sk games

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

I'll be back later I suppose

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:14 PM

#

@limpid hound hey ^^ may I help you?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:15 PM

#

All good 👍 always up for a discussion

full falcon Sep 26, 2019, 8:15 PM

#

Why do people think wws should have the same chance at winning as the villagers ?

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:15 PM

#

Blep, that's correct, 3 protectors for village is very good for them. That's the point. It's unbalanced.

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

because if not then u better suicide in ranked once u be a ww @full falcon

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

Wait wait

#

I mixing up my point

normal jungle Sep 26, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

so far the only way to win as a ww is to play against a dumb village tbh

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

I mean that it's unbalanced and the fact that cursed can't be in there too is even more unbalanced - why give vills so much luck and not ww?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

@full falcon I don’t think that. Nobody I know thinks that. They want wolves to win more than they do currently but not to the point where they are 1:1 with village

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

Exactly

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

Because I think cursed as a role is very broken

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

@sand dome hmmmm so the second thing is reasonable but to be honest it could be useful for the discussion, if paci reveals then. I think it's still a nice idea so I will post this in #feedback-devs.
The first idea has been suggested before yes ^^ do you have anything to add to the second one?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

Not because it wouldn’t be good for wolves

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

And the chances its good for village is still 18 good roles and 1 role that might turn into a ww

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

Cursed existence ig is very good for wolves

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

Nah I don't have anything else to add :p thanks for scrolling all the way up btw

glacial warren Sep 26, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

@sand dome thanks to you for the patience and feedback WumpusAttention

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

It’s such a detrimental role for village that allowing itself to get turned is more or less throwing imo

#

Now that I think about it it’s an okay suggestion. On the caveat that there can only be a single cursed in game

#

No more curseds can be in game if one is randomly selected as rrv

#

Town of Salem bypasses multiple retributionists (mediums) being in game by making them unique. Meaning only one can spawn

#

I think there’s a few classes like Mayor, pacifist that should also be unique

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:21 PM

#

why would u cut the randomness to only one tho. The chances are below 0.02% that three cursed would be in game and even if it happens I would be pretty fine with it

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:21 PM

#

Because 3 curseds is the worst rrv combo for village

#

Just like how 3 pacifists is the best

#

It’s an attempt to lower the variance

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:21 PM

#

You seem to have a giant bias to favor village

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

Hahahaha

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

Both should have equal chances of winning, no?

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

It is exactly the point to give ww a better chance

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

I don’t favour village I just don’t want the game to be swingy

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

and they dont know how many cursed are there

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

It already is without cursed?

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

the cursed dont know eiter

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

No they shouldn’t win 40ish % of the time

#

Wolves win rate should be proportional to how many members they have in relation to how many other people are in game

#

So that’s 25% in ranked.

#

I think it should be slightly more in actuality

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

I disagree, that makes things too easy for village and too hard for ww

#

It would make things unfun as a ww

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

Somewhere around 30-33% is good

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

To lose so much

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

Wolves already lose a lot in ranked. Making it so they can sometimes have more wolves just makes the game more swingy. Not more balanced

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

3 cursed would add below 0.002% to the winrate if the ww win all gmaes with them

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

I want village nerfed more than I want wolves buffed

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

I disagree too @craggy dagger

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

What about the chance of 2 cursed?

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

wolf buff is nerving village

#

wait

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

Chances Ww must be improved

#

Of*

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

2 cursed 0.308%

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

cursed is fun for werewolves, but it's not the most tactical advantage.. if there's 1 or 2 cursed, the ww mayority win can kick in really fast

#

just gunning the wrong person and bam, oops 6 wws now win the game

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

How about changing cursed to an actual werewolf from the beginning?

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

(I never thought the autowin system was balanced)

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

and making rvs spawn wolves on occasion?

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

That doesnt keep it boring and also makes game even for the ww

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

Changing cursed to ww right from the get go seems like you're advocating for removing cursed entirely

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

I really hate it when there are 2 auras ig. So why not one more ww?

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

5 werewolves is too much, then i;d prefer cursed rrv for sure

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

Oh and btw @quaint bramble I have a really really strong suggestion. Whenever there are 2 auras ig, there must always be wolf shaman. That's like the one good thing that can solve overpowered village. Plz post this to feedback devs

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

Knightwolf’s suggestion to make wolves spawn is consistent with wanting to buff werewolves and nerf village

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

thats simply not how rrv slots work, Knight

sand dome Sep 26, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

Rip knight's idea

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

Theres recently been a feedback to reduce/prevent 3 of the same role from appearing, thats a fair fix

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

Is that going to be implemented?

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

@craggy dagger also, you don't see the contrast. Being a ww, we want some confidence when playing. And as village, we want some challenge, because being a villager these days is like an easy guaranteed win.

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

Or is it just going to stay on the #feedback-devs wall and forgotten about

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

@quaint bramble What do you mean how rrv slots work?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

Not necessarily in fool games.

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

only 3 of the same kind denied or 2 as well?

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

Can't you just change the regular ww to wolf shaman in the game with 2 auras?

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

the game cant make role set up depend on rrv slot-results

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

I think 2 of the same role in game is fine so long as they aren’t confirmable. Ie pacifist gg or mayor

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

Or in all honesty, keep wolf shaman in all games. That sounds good?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

But I have a separate suggestion for confirmable rv

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

@willow zinc the post is ehre if you wanna give it a look
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/626013922184396810

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

@vivid blaze sounds like a fine suggestion to me

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

How about keeping wolf shaman in every game then?

#

It'll surely make the game more fun especially when there are 2 auras

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

so which wolf combos should be in ranked then?

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

Please post it to feedback devs. We can discuss more if you want

#

Idk whichever combo is fine. Simple thing is there always must be wolf shaman ig.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

shaman is instead of jww usually, right?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

I have no problem with it. I see no reason to further discuss it.

#

Shaman has their own spawn slot in ranked

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

I'd rather suggest instead of the regular ww @quaint bramble

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

It spawns once in all ranked games and sometimes there are 2 shamans

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

alpha, w seer, random, shaman/jww is the common combo isnt it?

craggy dagger Sep 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

ww seer ww shaman jww random

willow zinc Sep 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

Well but still... 3 of the same kind happens once in 324 games now. I dont think that is too bad tbh

vivid blaze Sep 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

I'm talking about quick game mostly. There isn't wolf shaman in it. And many people play quick game more bcoz ranked takes way too long to load

#

I'd say simply change the regular ww to shaman in quick games.

quaint bramble Sep 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

yeah no quickgame is probbaly off worse with always a shaman