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left bloom
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Nerf or Whatever

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It's dev decision

ruby cedar
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^

solid lynx
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Bro sl is really hard to win, I did it yesterday for first time

hasty quail
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It depends on the roll you have

ruby cedar
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It has been suggested countless before

glass notch
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Villagers have enough avenger team 🤣

ruby cedar
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Zombie is the one which got a lot of suggestions :) but well as what Master said, it's on dev call :)

hasty quail
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The avenger needs to go, that role is just stupid on its own

proven ingot
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Tg needs to go

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Too op

hasty quail
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Not really

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If ww attacks seer they can give out the ww info

glass notch
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I mean thor, hulk, iron man. I mean villagers have many super man

cold cypress
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Why does sect needs a buff? I mean it's considered as solo role and solo role is hard to win. I see sect ein pretty often, so why now buff it?

glass notch
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Sect no need buff

ruby cedar
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^ but someone already suggest that when both ww and sk attack tg, tg will direct killed, as same as bg

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Yeah sect no need buff

cold cypress
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Yeah that's why I can't understand the feedback

hasty quail
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No tg should be fine as he or she is

proven ingot
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No tg too op

hasty quail
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No tg isnt

proven ingot
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He can literally reveal both sk and a ww at ince

hasty quail
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Tg dies at night

glass notch
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Tg?

ruby cedar
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For now

hasty quail
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Tough giy

proven ingot
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That should just outright kill the tg

glass notch
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Oh

ruby cedar
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Probably on next update tg will be buff

proven ingot
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Buff?

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Tf?

hasty quail
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No Tg is fine they die in the night

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But BG dies right away

glass notch
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I dun think we shud do anything on him

hasty quail
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It gives tg a chance to speak

glass notch
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I mean i think

proven ingot
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The problem is that they can absoltely destoy two teams at ince

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If sk and wws attack him he should just die immediately to prevent that

hasty quail
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Atleast tg exposes ww but BG cant

real isle
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Sect only wins if ww die fast or werewolves don’t know sl otherwise sect always loses

cold cypress
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And?

ruby cedar
proven ingot
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Eh bg is fine

real isle
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That’s why I feedbacked

cold cypress
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Sect is solo role

hasty quail
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Yeah that's the hard part about sl

cold cypress
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Solo role is hard to win

ruby cedar
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^

glass notch
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Oh sure

proven ingot
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zombies wanna speak to u

real isle
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Sect is team role

hasty quail
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Yeah but that's at night

proven ingot
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Sect is fine just needs a way to talk with his sect

glass notch
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Tg should be seen the sk

ruby cedar
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Yes indeed, but sl is a solo killing role

real isle
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Zombie is a team role right?

proven ingot
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So he can actually plan instead of praying that his sected are smart and come up with something

real isle
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So you can kinda see sl is too

left bloom
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Sl is Convert team

proven ingot
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Sl is an absolute chad

left bloom
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Killer team is SK, Arson, Corruptor

ruby cedar
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Yep, but difference between sl and zomb is

Sl only able to sect one member per day, if lucky enough not to sect ww

All zombie members can bite

proven ingot
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Also bomber

hasty quail
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Bb is so trash

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I hate bb so much

proven ingot
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Its not an issue of sl being too weak, its an issue of zombies being tol strong

hasty quail
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So annoying

proven ingot
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Bruh

ruby cedar
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The hardest to win is bb, arson, sk, unless you're lucky enough

proven ingot
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Bb is one of my fav roles

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So fun

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I love all solos ngl, except zombies cuz too op

left bloom
cold cypress
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Sect doesn't need a buff

glass notch
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It's not easy to win when you're a bomber. Because when the number of players is less alive. you can be found easily. As for sk, he can hardly handle disadvantageous objects from both sides villagers or wws
I dun think we have to remake both

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But zombie. Plz nerf him a bit. That he can be killed when target a ww.

cold cypress
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There are other ways to nerf zombies.
But they don't change anything anyway

proven ingot
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I like surong's suggestion

cold cypress
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I like other ideas more

glass notch
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@proven ingot I m sʰʔng (fog) not surong. Many friends from philippines, malai, or indo have called like that šŸ˜‚

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@cold cypress can u show that idea?

cold cypress
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Search for 'zombie' in #feedback-devs
There are a lot of nerfs suggested but sadly they won't change it

ruby cedar
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^^^ T_T

quaint bramble
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Extra ability for the Corruptor: Once per game they can check the role of a dead corrupted player. This helps the corruptor to stay hidden for longer, because he can pretend to be that role without being caught lying. If the corruptor is checked by aura, it would still be unk

ionic kiln
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oooh, i like the idea GWqlabsOilUp GWqlabsOilUp I'll add it, thanks for your suggestion! @quaint bramble

hardy girder
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Sorry wrong #

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I didn't know where report this dude

ruby cedar
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It's okay

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Which one you refer to

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Ahh I get it. You're in love with 4

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And 4 seems like wanna kill you by killing him

hardy girder
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Minhanh061199
Was in couple with me. He said that He didn't like his role. He said that he was hh and I was alpha

ruby cedar
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Unfortunately for this kind of report, you need to report it via in game report

hardy girder
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Ok but via in game I can't send pics

ruby cedar
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You can say in details of the player you want to report. Under gamethrowing

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I'm sorry that you encountered a gamethrower :(

lethal storm
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@quaint bramble the corruptor is already strong enough to get a buff... isn't it?

whole yoke
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tbh I think the corruptor is the weakest solo currently

lethal storm
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oh ok

cold cypress
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I don't think so

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I saw more corruptor wins than sk or arso

lethal storm
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^

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Corr is just a better sk
Since the corrupted player can't do anything, he is like dead
But he can claim so many roles

whole yoke
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The problem is he’s basically a sk that takes longer to kill and the attacked player can be saved they can claim roles as a benefit but other than that it’s a weak sk

ruby cedar
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^

proven ingot
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Bh's trap should kill zombies

whole yoke
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This has been suggested before could you give any reason that this should happen also what if zombies and wolves attacked at the same time?

woven needle
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The Beasthunter shouldn't be affected by the frenzy. What I mean is: If you have your trap on someone, and that someone gets attacked during a frenzy, you, as the Beasthunter, shouldn't die. You have your TRAP set on the person. Logically, unlike Bodyguard or Doctor, you aren't protecting a person directly. You are protecting them with a trap that you set up a night before. (You are not physically there to protect that person)

proven ingot
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Bh trap should kill zombies bcuz they arent as strong as regular solo killers (Ex. Sk cant be eaten by wws but zombies can). If both attacked at the same time, a zombie would die due to it being weaker than wws (wws can kill zombies but zombies cant harm wws)

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Also bh shouldnt die if his trap is activated during frenzy. The trap should still be consumed, the wws should still kill their target, but no wws should die

woven needle
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Don't copy me

proven ingot
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Am supporting u bruh

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L m a o

woven needle
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Lol ik i'm just kidding

whole yoke
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@woven needle @proven ingot the east hunter argument isn’t really true it’s a protection that also harms ww if it didn’t protect the weakest we would die but also the target would die

The strength of a zombie isn’t compared to solo killers because zombies are not solo killers they are solo converters

proven ingot
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Then why not make bh trap kill zombies if they arent solo killers?

woven needle
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Well the trap can be consumed but neither the weakest werewolf or the Beasthunter should die.

ruby cedar
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First, bh is a protector so bh will die if ww frenzy activated and kill bh. But at same time, bh trap killed weakest ww too

woven needle
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Yeah. The current behavior is this:
•WW attack person protected by BH
•Weakest WW dies
•Beasthunter dies
•Protected person dies
My suggestion:
•WW attack person protected by BH
•Protected person dies
•Beasthunter and weakest WW don't die.

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Because as I said, logically, the Beasthunter isn't protecting directly, but with a trap. So he technically isn't there to get killed by the frenzy.

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And of course, also, if BH is protecting himself with a trap and gets attacked by WW, BH dies and the weakest ww doesn't die.

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🤷 if it's not possible then ok

minor dust
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Is it possible to increase the lvl required to access sandbox and ranked game modes

quaint bramble
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I think in that case, they should both die. basically the other ww's can attack and kill BH while the weakest one is stuck in the trap and dying.

minor dust
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I find it really annoying when some new player who is not familiar with the game makes mistakes

proven ingot
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Wouldnt their frenzied up state just let em break free?

quaint bramble
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Try to calmly explain why they're wrong, they gotta learn some way. If they keep going about it, can report for gamethrowing I guess.

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ah I wasnt on about frenzy specifically. multiple BH feedbacks crisscrossing around in here haha.

proven ingot
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See majesical, its still annoying and can ruin ur match

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If the wws are frenzied up and they attack someone with bh trap, wouldnt their frenzy let the weakest one just free himself by breaking the trap?

runic dragon
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Next week the FIFA Women's World Cup starts and it would be nice if they could bring the football wigs back

agile mauve
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yo#

glacial warren
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@agile mauve hey do you have any feedback?

agile mauve
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on the game ?

glacial warren
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Yes feedback for the game or suggestions GWofxLove

agile mauve
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no I do not

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because

glacial warren
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@agile mauve can I help you with something else? Because if you just want to talk pls move to #off-topic, #wov-chat or a specific language channel GWofxLove

agile mauve
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I am not english

pallid merlin
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Tu peux venir dans #french, on parle franƧais lƠ-bas ^^ @agile mauve

agile mauve
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ok

lethal storm
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When someone invite us in a custom game with a password and we accept the invitation, we'll still have to enter the password
If we are invited by the creator of the game, we should not have to make the password

whole yoke
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Yeah I agree thank you for your feedback I’ll add it to devs

lethal storm
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Ty cute_heart

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There should be a badge for ppl giving a lot of ideas
Idk how it could work, maybe if x of your ideas are added to the game, or if you get x ideas post in #feedback-devs , or if a dev decide that your idea is amazing (like for the bug sniffer badge)

It would be great and would thanks the player with a lot of ideas and who improve the game a lot

left bloom
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Ahhh.. That was suggested a lot

whole yoke
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Well this has been suggested before badges tend to not be added that often because they are meant to be few that are also rare the bug sniffer badge you can only get by being part of the wwotc and is even then you have to be quick to get in the matches so it’s still somewhat difficult to get thank you for your feedback though the more it’s asked the better it’s chances of being added

cold cypress
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It should be possible to join the game again when u accidentally close the app.

lethal storm
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@whole yoke (you can get the bug sniffer badge if a dev think the bug you reported is serious enough but) thank you

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And rip

whole yoke
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You can as long as you don’t die due to inactivity you can join the match again @cold cypress

cold cypress
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Well I can't

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So it should be possible to change that

whole yoke
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@lethal storm bug sniffer is the badge you get in the wwotc for doing tests BugSolved

ruby cedar
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^^^

lethal storm
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@whole yoke ik.
I'll get it when Maffin will be back

But you can also get it if a dev think your bug is big enough

whole yoke
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No you cannot

lethal storm
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I know some people Who have got it this way :p

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Yes you can.

minor dust
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I think zombie is too op

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Most of the players quit trying to find zombies after the first day

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Can't blame them coz if they don't find zombie the first night then it's hard to find in the later stages

whole yoke
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Yes this has been suggested before could you give me more of an idea on how to nerf then without breaking them

minor dust
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Decrease xp for zombie win

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?

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Is it possible for you to find out if villagers have given up during the game

whole yoke
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I wouldn’t think so tbh I don’t think it could tell the difference

hasty imp
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Change the quick game roles more consistently lol

whole yoke
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They change every Wednesday @hasty imp PleasedDev

real isle
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It’s every week

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^

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If roles are changed more the new and even some old players will get confused

zealous gale
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Could we add something for Cupid to do during the game??? I don’t know what but something other than just be a villager????!

runic dragon
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?discord shirt

whole yoke
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@zealous gale there job is to protect there lover couple after choosing them

zealous gale
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But something possibly as well as that??? I might just be being silly tho!

scarlet python
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I know this suggestion was here before but I'll resuggest to see new opinions to this suggestion: Beast hunter traps should be able to kill zombie

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Because zombie is not really human, it's undead so it should be able to die to traps due to unable to restore itself to a normal state

proven ingot
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^

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Beast hunter hunts zhe beasts: zombo bois are beasts too

whole yoke
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This has been suggested before and the trap doesn’t kill zombies it says that it kills the weakest werewolf which they are not a werewolf PleasedDev

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Same goes with sk

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And bomber

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And arso

scarlet python
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Bomber don't trigger traps

whole yoke
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And sect leader

scarlet python
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Hmm...

proven ingot
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Sect leader hooman tho

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Zombo aint hooman

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And honestly, zombos need nerf

whole yoke
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Zombies are dead humans PleasedDev and a nerf like this wouldn’t work because it’s inconsistent

proven ingot
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And wws are hoomans with lycanthropy uwu

scarlet python
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What about another suggestion I suggested before?: Zombies should not able to bite for a night after they bit a target that cannot be converted šŸ¤”

proven ingot
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Both are afflicted by some magical disease: wws lycanthropy and zombies the t virus zombo plague

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Huh serial

whole yoke
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And the role says werewolf specifically not weather they are human or not

proven ingot
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Can doc/tg/bg/witch prevent zombie from biting someone?

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Thatd work well with serial's other suggestil

whole yoke
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No it doesn’t effect solo converters

proven ingot
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Sad

vapid pine
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hi

runic dragon
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@vapid pine Hey, may I help you?

fluid shard
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I know rvs are chosen randomly but constellations of 3 auras or 3 'long-term' protectors such as doc or bg in a game decrease the chance for the ww team to win significantly (on normal terms it's already hard to win as ww)

normal wyvern
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The German translation says that you can only shoot at night or change your target.

ionic kiln
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@normal wyvern thanks for reporting! I'll send it to the German translators ^^

normal wyvern
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Great

river ivy
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I wish I had screenshot about it all but the zombies need an xp nerf or something. People just wait out the game biting everyone else for increased XP. I just quit my last game because I hate that (and someone was being a real jerk) but I hate quitting, hate that more though. It's not fair to WWs, villagers who died early, and it really feels like actual game throwing on the part of villagers because most won't vote for zombies. I don't know how to nerf zombies but they need some kind of hunter like the beast hunter or marksman too. Just classify them as beast or something so they don't show up as villagers? Because they aren't.

winged hedge
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Why I have trap

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When sect leader try to sect me is destroying my trap

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Why corruptor no

whole yoke
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@river ivy this has been suggested before thanks for you Input every day counts and will make it more clear for the devs to change

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@winged hedge because corruptor is a solokiller not a solo converter

winged hedge
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Make him to can't curupt you

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When you have a trap

hasty imp
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@whole yoke I got told that before but the last 2 weeks they didnt. 2 weeks ago they changed on Friday and last week they didnt change at all

cold cypress
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That's right...

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Well I asked it a few times before but maybe they didn't understand it, bc no one gave me an answer

craggy arrow
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toxicplayer

meager gyro
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@craggy arrow Please report them ingame 😊

modest pebble
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Force update for gunner patch please

lethal storm
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@modest pebble the gunner patch was one of the worst update on the game imo 😣

minor dust
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Hi

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I was banned for hate speech

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Who are the guardians

meager gyro
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Contact one of them ^^

runic dragon
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How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your Ingamename and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

  • ioannis => @strong olive (@ioannis#0936 | Guardian Manager)
  • 7mlapine => @spiral glen (@7mlapine#3545)
  • Sharon => @mighty birch (@Sharon#9833)
  • Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980)
  • Myrros => @lethal storm (@Myrros#1340)
  • Jan => @normal solar (@Jan10009#5271)
meager gyro
minor dust
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Okay

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Thanks

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Sorry

meager gyro
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No problem and don't worry :3

willow nymph
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people been complaining bout zombie to be remove why yall dont remove it yet?

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we need a short game

meager gyro
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Yep, some ppl dislike it, others like it
But yes it need a nerf, do you have an idea how to improve the role/ How should it be like that you enjoy playing it again? šŸ˜…

runic dragon
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Could you make it to where you can select what game mode you want to play with friends instead of quick play

spring chasm
runic dragon
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Ok thanks

spring chasm
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Np šŸ‘

scarlet python
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Add the option to disable invitation notifications

ruby cedar
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Or prevent your friend from invite you? GWvickyKannaPeek

scarlet python
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Friends literally everyone if you are on DND state

ruby cedar
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For status one, yeah it's been suggested. So if it's implemented, then you want to sync it with invite right? GWvickyKannaPeek

scarlet python
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Yep

ruby cedar
left bloom
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Ehh... Did you report em yet?

crimson gazelle
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Yes

left bloom
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Well. From now on. Telling here might help nothing šŸ˜•

crimson gazelle
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Sandbox or normal is fine

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But rank

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Fuck

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-45 skill point

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For teamup

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Fucking dumb stuipd people

lethal storm
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If the village do not vote for anyone, the message should be "the village decide not to lynch anyone" instead of "the village could not decide who to lynch" (same if there is in total less than the total votes required)

left bloom
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Well... I know your feel. No need to say harsh word like that šŸ˜…

crimson gazelle
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Just see full the game and u guy will see

real isle
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@crimson gazelle this isn’t the place and it happens many times, report them in game and when they have 10 reports they will probably be banned

lethal storm
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^

left bloom
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^^

lethal storm
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^^^

crimson gazelle
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Still angry

left bloom
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Stop it.. Myrros

lethal storm
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šŸ˜…

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also, what about my feedback?

left bloom
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Change the phrase??

real isle
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Ow I tought it was in game already

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I tought you were explaining šŸ˜‚ well I like your feedback

lethal storm
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yes

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to "the village decide not to lynch anyone" if the total of votes is less than the min votes required

left bloom
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Ahh..

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Got it.. (But what's original phrase??)

lethal storm
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"the village could not decide who to lynch"

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which has a different meaning

left bloom
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Hmm. Make sense. Thank you for suggestion. Monsieur FeedbackApproved GWcmeisterPeepoLove

lethal storm
wide creek
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Here’s a thought I had: how about when the seer checks a player and that player dies by bomber or witch or something, the seer can check another player? To make it a bit more consistent for seers to get out info

whole yoke
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This has been suggested before and the reason I don’t agree with this is seer shouldn’t click on someone immediately because there’s also for example a jailer kill or arso waits till near the end of the night seer shouldn’t get another see because someone died in some situations and the game needs to keep consistency and not sometimes work if that makes sense

wide creek
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Makes sense to me

quartz parcel
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any mod can update my tag on discord?cute_heart

zealous spruce
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No

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Mods can only change your nickname

quartz parcel
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im new wwo translator(ptbr) but my tag it's wrong

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(im also faq translator)

zealous spruce
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You can ping one the managers of your translation projectšŸ˜„

quartz parcel
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okay :D thanks

zealous spruce
lethal storm
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What about a Facebook item?
For players who link their acc with their Facebook acc, like in a lot of games

still orbit
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Good idea tho šŸ‘€

lyric depot
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Dies everyone love Facebook?

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Does*

still orbit
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Not actually ā€œloveā€, but many uses it

lyric depot
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Yup

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It's a good idea yes

lethal storm
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Ty cute_heart

still orbit
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But I don’t know what’s the point of that šŸ¤”(Still good idea)

lyric depot
lethal storm
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Well, when you link acc... it will be shown in your profile

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It will advertise the game

still orbit
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Ahuh! Smart boi

lethal storm
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😁

lyric depot
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šŸ¤”

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Wow

still orbit
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Imma ping random helper

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@pallid merlin

runic dragon
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Mister Arnaud is off

lethal storm
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Rip he is off

still orbit
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He is on like minute ago

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Nvm

lethal storm
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(@still orbit it's good to see ya^^)

still orbit
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😃

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I saw 4 helpers online past minute, is that a discord bug?

runic dragon
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Idk but now i'm here ^^

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@lethal storm yeh cool idea. But what item it would be? GWonoMariV

lethal storm
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Maybe sommes glasses

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To fit with the shirt and the hat

runic dragon
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Hmm nice idea ^^ thanks for feedback GWinfxHeart

lethal storm
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@runic dragon thxx cute_heart

woeful mesa
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for the last feedback, I think the same item for google play connection should be a good idea too no?

marble needle
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We need some balancing here. Bad roles almost never win. Village is far too overpowered in most cases

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Examples from my stats

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Normal ww
Wins: 102
Losses: 382

Bomber
Wins: 7
Losses: 84

Ww seer
Wins: 97
Losses: 346

Arsonist
Wins: 6
Losses: 105

Headhunter
Wins: 86
Losses: 178

Wolf shaman
Wins: 68
Losses: 245

Fool
Wins: 49
Losses: 217

Serial killer
Wins: 14
Losses: 200

Junior ww
Wins: 60
Losses: 117

Corruptor
Wins: 0
Losses: 7

Alpha ww
Wins: 105
Losses: 355

stiff stream
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great game but I think more punishment is needed for ppl who game throw or suicide. also after the update I get kicked out after playing a quick game or a rank game. I need to reinstall the game again in order to play another round please fix it.

marble needle
warm helm
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@woeful mesa that seems intresting, thanks for your feedback ā¤

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@marble needle it is meant to be harder to win as solo role and wws. How would you change this to buff both teams more?

marble needle
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ww should have equal chance of winning. No wonder most ww quit as soon as they see they're ww.

warm helm
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@stiff stream if they suicide 3 times in 6 hours they get auto-banned. If you report the game throwers they will be banned by our guardian team. That second thing is a bug, im not sure if its known but i will ping you when i have found it ā¤

still orbit
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@warm helm Dang fast

warm helm
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@still orbitGWqlabsOilUp

still orbit
warm helm
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@stiff stream this us a known bug, thanks for reporting ā¤ can i get your device and game version please? Report in #bugs-readonly next time to make it easier for us

stiff stream
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I am using Samsung S7 edge and the game version is 0.32.14 thank you

mystic river
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So i write here too. I was playing as a headhunter. My target got killed by bomber. Than got revieved by med. The game was showing my target after that and i got confused because of it. After all I won with the vilagers.

warm helm
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@stiff stream ok thank you and sorry for the problems ā¤

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@mystic river so what is your feedback in this situation? Im a bit confused about what you actually suggest here šŸ˜…

mystic river
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Test it out i guess to see its really in. If it in fix that or something. I was just send here to write there this info too.GWmiyanoSip

granite scroll
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So I'm moving from bug to here, I just played a game that we have lose, but in fact we win this game : we are 3 innocents (with mayor) against 3 ww (with one afk).
So it's 3 against 2 and if we count the mayor, it's 4 against 2, but they won.
I think the inactive werewolf should not count for votes to avoid this kind of inconvenience.

||PS: Sorry for all the mismeasures etc, I'm not English x)||

warm helm
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@granite scroll it actually makes sense for wws to win now and it isnt fair in one way and definetly frustrating as a villager. It is actually intresting, thanks for your amazing feedback cute_heart

granite scroll
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Thanks to you @warm helm ! šŸ˜„

hardy girder
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I think the decisions about pics for socials should put to #dev-vote
We decide what we like!

runic dragon
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I think the vote-sign holding by villagers and their hand are a bit sad, it would be cool to have skins for hand & vote-sign in a future update, it would be really cool and pretty ;)

whole yoke
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Yeah this has been suggested before and I really would like to see that too it could give more freedom to designers and would add more freedom to the players @runic dragon

runic dragon
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Oh ok :)

fossil onyx
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Who do I get the discord shirt please help

runic dragon
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Are you looking for a discord shirt, @fossil onyx ?

fossil onyx
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Yes

runic dragon
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Operation cancelled! āŒ

whole yoke
fossil onyx
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Thank you

tame matrix
dusty fulcrum
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Ww votes at night should be removed if they are killed by bomber

spring chasm
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@tame matrixthat looks like a new feedback for me. Thanks, I will add it to #feedback-devs ^^

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@dusty fulcrumthat is suggested, thanks for your feedback ^^

cold heart
whole yoke
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@cold heart if you use a bot for gold they’ve added a anti to it and you’ll lose gold

cold heart
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@whole yoke I watch advertisements everyday to get coins

toxic narwhal
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When do updates usually come out

whole yoke
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They don’t come out on a schedule so whenever the devs finish them @toxic narwhal

toxic narwhal
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@whole yoke ok thanks

vagrant mirage
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Please make this game on pc

whole yoke
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This has been suggested before currently you can use android emulators to play on pc @vagrant mirage

torn gazelle
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Yesterday I have coin 105000+ today’s 66000 lost 40000+ what you Can you help me and my friends have coin 150000 today’s 71000 lost 60000 😭😭😭😤😤😤😤

whole yoke
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This is because there is a anti bot so if you ā€œearnā€ to much gold in one day you’ll lose it afterwards

runic dragon
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So if you buy a lot of gold in one day you lose all of it?

whole yoke
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If you buy gold it would go through the transaction history and not be removed

runic dragon
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Ah

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They should add a log of everything that happens throughout the game. Example, 5 (Name of player) (sl) converted 4 (name of player) doc

solid sparrow
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bring back the fucking roleplay channel @left bloom '

left bloom
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K..

runic dragon
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why is it needed, like it was removed for a reason and i don’t necessarily think itd be active aside from you and a few others idek

solid sparrow
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It was removed because we were trolling it

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Who cares who uses it? It can be deleted again

runic dragon
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well they generally want to have a channel thatll be used i guess. the channel also isn’t necessarily related in any way to wwo unlike the other channels (aside from offtopic)

kind nexus
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@marble needle the chances that you get a villager / play a villager are higher -> this is why the village wins more often (62.5%)

solid sparrow
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It was related to wwo before we made it unrelated and it was deleted

runic dragon
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then why do we have the need to re-add it. i just think itll end up being either breaking rules or really inactive idek

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They should add a log of everything that happens throughout the game. Example, 5 (Name of player) (sl) converted 4 (name of player) doc

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Add the corrupted sign to the discord emotes koekje (new the purple hacked looking one)

whole yoke
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Currently we’re running low on emojis so I don’t think it would be added

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We’ve got like 2 slots I think

kind nexus
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I would give up one of them if really needed šŸ˜›

ruby cedar
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Or boost server? GWvickyKannaPeek

kind nexus
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yeah we could do that hm? 😃

ruby cedar
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If this server does have an option to boost GWvickyKannaPeek

whole yoke
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Isn’t that only for certain servers currently ThinkingDev

ruby cedar
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Server with less members get the option GWvickyKannaPeek but I don't think all server tho GWvickyKannaPeek

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I got an idea

normal wyvern
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Maybe it would be useful if you have a category in your inventory where you can see which outfits are currently available and you can buy them (Quest Outfits, BP, by purchase, etc.), because you don't necessarily discover them with the symbol that you haven't unlocked it yet.

ruby cedar
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||How about we contact DC?|| GWmythsBlobGlare

kind nexus
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hm i guess philipp did this already

lament frigate
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about the emojis and stuff
We're doin stuff abt this.

kind nexus
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@stable steppeen the items are there

ruby cedar
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Probably KIV or rejected GWsetmyxPeepoCry

normal wyvern
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Wrong person? GWqlabsKek

whole yoke
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I think she means items you haven’t unlocked but are available should show up in the present section ThinkingDev

normal wyvern
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Yes

opaque pollen
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Yeah sometimes it is not clear where the greyed out ones are from even with info tap

kind nexus
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hm but than you tap on them and see it/!

whole yoke
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I would like it in the present section to because then you could have all of them in one place

normal wyvern
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Sometimes you don't find them either, especially if you have too many outfits.

whole yoke
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All three quests the special deal and the bundle outfits all should show up in the present section PleasedDev

normal wyvern
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And the outfits you'll get by spinning the wheel i guess, right?

whole yoke
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No they never show up greyed out so that wouldn’t make sense

terse pewter
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Where do I report a player in discord?

runic dragon
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How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your Ingamename and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

  • ioannis => @strong olive (@ioannis#0936 | Guardian Manager)
  • 7mlapine => @spiral glen (@7mlapine#3545)
  • Sharon => @mighty birch (@Sharon#9833)
  • Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980)
  • Myrros => @lethal storm (@Myrros#1340)
  • Jan => @normal solar (@Jan10009#5271)
whole yoke
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Lol

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@normal wyvern you goofed

normal wyvern
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Okay okay not the wheel outfits

terse pewter
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Did I type smthg wrong?

whole yoke
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@terse pewter you can only report in discord if you reported on the game first and if it’s extremely bad

terse pewter
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Ya I reported in game

whole yoke
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If so contact the guardians above

terse pewter
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This guy I played with a few times keep gamethrowing every time he is ww

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Reveal all the ww

whole yoke
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Yeah just report them in game for that and they’ll be punished soon PleasedDev

terse pewter
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Ok...

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Reported that guy a few times already but he is still actively playing and doing the same thing

whole yoke
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It takes 10 reports to show up to the guardians (lifetime not single matches)

terse pewter
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Ok...

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Thanks

normal wyvern
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@whole yoke So my feedback isn't suggested before? GWqlabsKek

runic dragon
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Fofu

glacial warren
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@runic dragon hey pls just talk English GWofxLove do you have any feedback about the game?

runic dragon
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Add a wisper feature

warm helm
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Thats suggested before, thank you for your feedback ā¤ ā¤ ā¤

near adder
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Everything is great except avatar lips. They just look... really horrible. Also some eyes are too away from eachother. They kind of look bad too.

whole yoke
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@near adder thank you for your feedback most of the eyes and lips are done by designers in #avatar-ideas

near adder
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By the way is there a way to change the lips?

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I mean in inventory.

whole yoke
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No you can wear certain things to change it but not the lips specifically

near adder
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I saw a person yesterday with teeths though. Is that an accessory?

whole yoke
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Most likely a mask of some kind yes :3

near adder
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Hm

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Cool.

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Thanks.

pseudo comet
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Avatar hair how comes behind hat are not really beautiful ^^

iron girder
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Make it so when people are banned/Introduced to the game, the Rules Menu would be forced open for them. Making sure they have read it. And common rule mistakes people make cough teaming with zombies.

As too many people actually don't read da rules D:

still orbit
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Might do šŸ¤”

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Thanks for your feedback!

iron girder
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Np ty bai:p

hardy girder
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I think the decisions about pics for socials should put to #dev-vote
We decide what we like!

nocturne sierra
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waiting every day for a major in game change outside of new roles that aren't at all meant to replace anyone

jovial path
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It's probably been suggested before, but I think it's a really good feature to have:

After getting a clothing item from a loot box, clan quest rewards, daily rewards... There should be something that'll guide us to find the item.
For example: I opened a lootbox, got a clothing item. I quickly tap it to collect it, but if I wanna wear it, I need not only to find which category it is in (there are some confusing items which you don't always know where they be), but also find the item in the section. It wastes your time sometimes.

Suggestion: if you go to the inventory, there will be some blue dot on the section(s) that contain an item/items that you haven't seen yet. After going there, it should automatically scroll to the line of your unseen item, I think.

That's all thanks

sturdy stratus
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My suggestion would be to give a little bit more xp for players playing sandbox for testing and playing against new and possibly unbalanced roles, finding bugs.

meager gyro
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@jovial path Thanks for your suggestion^^ I'll add it to #feedback-devs GWqlabsLove

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@sturdy stratus Like a sandbox bonus xp you'll always get? (similar to the custom game bonus)

sturdy stratus
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Yup

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Even if you lose

meager gyro
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okii I will add it too ^^
Thanks for your feedback GWqlabsLove

wild root
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Hi

lethal storm
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@wild root hey cute_heart

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any feedbacks or ideas for the game?

quaint bramble
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More xp for SB doesn't sound good to me.. will only invite more bad behaviour because people just want to be there for nothing but the better xp

normal wyvern
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^

sturdy stratus
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Well I don't mean a lot more. I would say 15xp is about right.

normal wyvern
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Maybe if someone breaks a rule they won't get the 15 xp

sturdy stratus
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Maybe

normal wyvern
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Like when they's reported by someone

sturdy stratus
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Yes

meager gyro
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That'd be too complicated to implement I guess/ false reporting..

sturdy stratus
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They should get a penalty even

normal wyvern
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Yes :/

left bloom
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Yes. Like Lisa said. and we didn't have the 24/7 eyes

sturdy stratus
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Ig

left bloom
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I know

quaint bramble
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To be honest i dont think most people in SB specifically go there to try out and seriously test the new roles. There's probably more effective ways to reward those people, I think that is the core of your request. SO instead of giving it to any sandbox player, give it to people who report sb bugs/feedback. Maybe with a feedback/bug option in game for sandbox mode.

sturdy stratus
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Yeah. Good idea

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@meager gyro

meager gyro
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You can report bugs and feedback in mentorchat ingame
Also that could be easily abused to gain a lot of xp :/
I think a bonus sandbox xp would work since it would be exactly the same thing as in custom games atm

lethal storm
still orbit
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I didn’t agree with that, because if there’s a 1v1(Zombie-Villager), Villager should have their chance to use their ability

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That situation also

lethal storm
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if it's 1v1 then ok

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but it was 3v1 here

still orbit
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Well, if I’m a gunner with one more bullet, I would like to use my last shot.

quaint bramble
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In reality, in a situation like this every villager who opposes zombies would already have been killed :/

still orbit
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Wwo haha

lethal storm
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on my case, we had just killed the ww (11) so... it was an useless night

still orbit
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Btw your idea is a good way to reduce time consuming, but I think it’s better to keep it like that.

lethal storm
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ok šŸ¤·šŸ»

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also, idea to nerf zombies: make it so they can't live more than a certain amount of days while totally transformed (2 or 3 days)

quaint bramble
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ooh that's an interesting idea!

normal solar
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let the ww shamane also enchant ww's to let them be seen by aura seer as good

warm helm
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@lethal storm @normal solar both are suggested before, thanks for your feedback cute_heart cute_heart

lethal storm
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rip

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ty cute_heart

runic dragon
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Friendlist short can automatically save settings and select more choice like short by level+name a-z

warm helm
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Thank you for your feedback cute_heart

lethal storm
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if the bomber dies in the night where his bomb is supposed to explode, before they explode (in the 10 1st seconds) the bomb should not explode

scarlet python
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Zombie nerfing idea: Let only initial zombie bite players. The consequence zombies can choose to sacrifice themselves and add biting ability to a targeted zombie. Sacrificing will kill the zombie who sacrifices immediately. If there are more than 1 zombies initially, one of them will have biting ability and others will not until another zombie choose to sacrifice himself.

Pros: Can prevent and force the zombies to kill their teammate to let others bite.
Cons: Zombies will have hard time to fight against other teams due to sacrificing reduce zombie amounts, making zombies to lose their majority.

lethal storm
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interesting but... it would mean the initial zombie have to bite 2 players before one of them can bite someone else

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so 3 days

scarlet python
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Yep

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Like sect, the members have to die in their team for advantages

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However, sect will receive nothing from sacrificial, but zombies will receive the biting ability

lethal storm
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I don't really like the idea tbh lol what happens if the initial zombie dies ?

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the other zombies can't do anything, or one of them become initial zombie?

scarlet python
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I think the oldest will be able to bite automatically

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To prevent possible yet unnecessary RNG

proper lark
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HELP

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I recommended your game to my friends with links but I got no rewards

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Wait

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Ohhhhhh

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They have to click on the link for it to work

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I guess I shouldn't have sent the link to Donald Trump on Instagram

quaint bramble
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I think it says they have to play their first game too. This is to prevent fake account inviting and such.

rigid bronze
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Make that when we click on "Delete account" we still have 24 hours like nothing has happened, and to cancel, you just have to log in again (during the 24 hours). After that delay, the account is totally deleted

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Is it clear ?

cold cypress
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While you are in a lobby and inviting friends, you should be able to sort your friend list so that your clan members are on top.

proper lark
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Ok thx

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I doubt Donald Trump will click on my link lol

ruby cedar
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@proper lark for you to able get reward at wwo game, you need to meet the requirement condition:

  1. They joined wwo game via your link
  2. have first win
rigid bronze
proper lark
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Srry

ruby cedar
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nvm Nexo

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sometimes they didn't know, so we help first then ask them to go appropriate channel ^^

rigid bronze
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@ruby cedar Yea I know ^^ that's why I say next time (and I guess it's better to say this now, as they might do it again)

ruby cedar
sudden cargo
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I have a suggestion

trail falcon
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i lost all gold, pls help

sudden cargo
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?

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just watch the add that gives you free coins

cold cypress
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When berserk activates frenzy, the trap also shouldn't work and kill the bh, cause it's unfair for wws.

warm helm
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@cold cypress thats suggested before, thanks for the feedback ā¤

rigid bronze
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What about my suggestion ?

sudden cargo
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oof

warm helm
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@rigid bronze that could come in handy yes, thanks for your feedback ā¤

scarlet python
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And just like that, forgotten feedback...

warm helm
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Wait i will check them all, just give me a minute šŸ˜„

cold cypress
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Which suggestion do you mean? Or both?

warm helm
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Only the second one šŸ˜… im not sure about the other, i will check it out

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@lethal storm something similar is suggested before, thanks for your feedback ā¤

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@scarlet python this could definetly help to keep zombies in control, thanks for your feedback ā¤

lethal storm
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?

warm helm
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@cold cypress your first feedback is intresting and new. Thanks for your feedback ā¤

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@lethal storm i mean your feedback from a while ago, no one answered it yet so i did šŸ˜„

lethal storm
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oh, which one was it?

warm helm
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The one with the bomber, did you post another feedback? So yes would you like to post it again please?

cold cypress
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Thank you for adding it GWjiangLoveHeart

lethal storm
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I've been answered to other feedbacks, and ooh yes ok, thank you :3

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has it been accepted or refused?

warm helm
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I dont know for sure about that GWmythsBlobGlare

lethal storm
rigid bronze
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@warm helm Thankies sonblob cute_heart

warm helm
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@rigid bronze np ā¤

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@lethal storm i was wrong, it is actually new. I confused your feedback with the feedback from someone else (who did get the right response). Sorry for the problems and thanks for reporting ā¤

lethal storm
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oh nice, thank you cute_heart

rigid bronze
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Make that we can get Marksman in Random Strong Villager (or write it in the the RSV desc if we already can)

lethal storm
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Mm is actually a weak villager

warm helm
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^

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Mm doesnt belong in there (but thats just my opinion)

rigid bronze
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Gunner is in there and it's basically the same role

lethal storm
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il stronger than mm

normal wyvern
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Report them ingame

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Now we can't do more. It's not a extreme situation

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What do you mean?

quaint bramble
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No you wont get a notification if someone you report gets banned.

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(if thats what you meant)

lethal storm
normal wyvern
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Maybe useful for quests:
Maybe it would be useful to set individually how many new quests you want to have as a clan (e.g. instead of 3 quests just 2 or more than 3).

Or

You can already see in the quest view which quest has already been done instead of looking in the quest history. Maybe just put a check mark on the quest that has already been done

glacial warren
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@runic dragon a notification, if someone is banned has been suggested before and in my opinion that's not really useful. It's just much more work and for the person which is banned not really nice..... Thank you anyways GWofxLove

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@lethal storm hm there is a bug, that the eyes do not change, if you choose a full outfit so I think this should be fixed first. Also I think, that it would be more work to improve this than just change the eyes

lethal storm
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ok

glacial warren
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Thank you for your feedback and suggestions GWofxLove

lethal storm
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I hope it will be solved with the eyes-bug

glacial warren
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@normal wyvern normally the clan leaders know their quests but I could post itGWofxLove thank you for this suggestion

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@lethal storm yes the devs are working on it GWofxLove

normal wyvern
marble needle
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How about packages you can buy to earn more XP based on a percentage? Example package would be 25% more XP for 24 hours

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Or 100% XP for a week

glacial warren
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@marble needle hmmm sounds interesting GWjiangLoveHeart I will post it in #feedback-devs thank you for your suggestion

naive orbit
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I think it would be cool, if there is a big Quest or anything else for Clans, you can buy it instead/or at the same time at another Quest. The Quest will be about 10-14 Days and you can get more Items.

whole yoke
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Suggested before thank you for your input every time voice counts so get more people to want this to have the devs but it on a higher priority

lethal storm
naive orbit
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Oooh, I haven't seen that, Thank you

lethal storm
real isle
#

Role update for shaman to give werewolves some power, shaman can shaman a werewolve to good aura (team stays the same) once per game this stays 1 night

quaint bramble
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How would it show to the seer? They should be seeing an actual role so what would that be?

thin dome
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Add a feature so that a person can sell roses for gold

glacial warren
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@thin dome to transfer Gold and other things has been suggested before and it sounds like something like thisGWofxLove

real isle
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I don’t know how it would show for seer

solid sparrow
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Boost rewards

whole yoke
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Could you give me on a idea on what the rewards should be @solid sparrow ThinkingDev

solid sparrow
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Idk in game items?

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I don't wanna waste my boosts where I get nothing in return. Other servers are giving away steam games so idk

bronze pasture
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Server boosting is optional. Ingame rewards most likely are not gonna be introduced since server boosting supports this discord server

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And seeing a role, two badges as nothing?

solid sparrow
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What's the role? Also, you can get that in literally any server.

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Pass

merry hemlock
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if there is a fool and a normal vilalger (no killing power during night), the fool should win instead of making the villager win because the fool he vote the villager but if the villager vote him , the fool win anyway

lethal storm
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@merry hemlock the retirement for the village in order to win is to kill all the dangers of the night
Meaning wws, solo killers and teams

If there is only a villager and a fool left, then the village has complete his win requirement, and win

merry hemlock
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but still it makes more sense if fool win

lethal storm
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Why?
The villager can't lose if he has all dangers

merry hemlock
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the fool vote the last villager , he win , the villager vote him, fool win

lethal storm
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And btw:
The fool lose if he is the last one alive
So it would make no sense To make him live with 1 villager left and lose with 0 left

whole yoke
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Okay it’s this conversation šŸ˜…

lethal storm
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@merry hemlock no. If the fool vote the last villager and is the only one alive, the village win

merry hemlock
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thats weird

whole yoke
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Actually you’re not completely correct there is no villagers left alive fool isn’t a villager he’s a solo voter which isn’t on the same team but the current reasoning for villager win is because all of the bad roles are dead therefore villagers win right? Well technically that’s not completely true technically it should be a tie because the moment fool is last one alive he doesn’t get the win therefore is no longer in the way of wolves win condition equal the villagers aka 0 so technically villagers and wolves win. It’s a rather grey area but technically that’s the way it should be

merry hemlock
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ok yeah i understand

lethal storm
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Lol

merry hemlock
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but it will be nice to make it tie

lethal storm
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You are right šŸ¤”

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No

whole yoke
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It probably wouldn’t be change I’m just saying that’s how it technically should work not that it does šŸ˜‰

runic dragon
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Just letting you know I love the new limited outfit it works wonders with other items I have

runic dragon
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Add a log at the end of each game. For example, 7, Sl, Johnny Converted 8, Doc, Billy

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Any helpers on?

quaint bramble
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Like basically the pink messages in chat, in a nice overview?

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Sounds nice actually

runic dragon
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Yea

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But it would be in a separate section

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I feel like people who game throw would be found easier like if a paci random reveals and becomes a zombie you could find that paci

scarlet python
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Is victory sharing for lovers suggested?

whole yoke
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Wdym @scarlet python

scarlet python
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Like, if ww and villager are lovers, villager can win with ww and vice versa

whole yoke
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Yeah this has been suggested before thanks for your feedback though I’ll add it to the database as one more vote :3

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@runic dragon oooo i like that idea

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Maybe have the pink chat available after the end of the match only so that no one can cheat and it would make it easier to report players and such

iron girder
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Since discord nitro server boosting is out, maybe some perks for our fellow boosters(Im not a fellow ops)

covert zodiac
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I really think avenger shouldn't be able to avenge first night, it's a random kill, not an intellectual decision who to choose to die just in case

iron girder
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Ps Hai ironmonkeyx11

covert zodiac
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Hi

whole yoke
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@iron girder yeah already suggested currently we don’t have plans for it but maybe you could tell us something that’s possibly something to give for those players

iron girder
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Custom roles cough Monkey role cough
Ok for realz um... custom role(but doesn't show different from online) and idk

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The next one is a dumb idea but maybe x2 vote for #dev-vote ?

whole yoke
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Custom roles would over load the server I know because another server I’m in just had to delete it because there’s a limit on the amount of roles for a server

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200 is max

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@covert zodiac role blocking someone who lost there life doesn’t seem like it would make much sense ww jr could tag first night as well

covert zodiac
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Jr ww is trying to kill everyone they can, but an avenger is to protect against ww etc., It's more like a free kill the first night, cuz they are avenging blindly @whole yoke

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It's like a gunner shooting random right away

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Technically no difference

iron girder
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@whole yoke Ez, only for 50 people:p Since they r the ones who pushed yall to level 3=Vanity url

whole yoke
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Yeah there is hes got to die to use his ability gunner doesn’t that’s a big difference what it the one he tags is bad he’s got a 6/15 chance one night to kill a bad player over 1/3

covert zodiac
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@whole yoke so in that case the gunner has the same odds shooting in that condition

whole yoke
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@iron girder then what about the people after the would see no reason to do so and it’s kinda unfair

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@covert zodiac yes but he’s not risking is life for the mistake

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If anything he’s proving he’s gunner making him impossible to lynch on normal terms

covert zodiac
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Avenger is not risking his life, he's dead without risking, and just taking someone else down with him

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Blindly

whole yoke
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Welp this has been suggested before I’ll add it to the vote GWofxLove

covert zodiac
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I'm just saying that it isn't any different to gunner

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It's a random kill

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I also understand y u dont think its necessary

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So whether or not it happens is fine

iron girder
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@whole yoke They get a regular role called 'Discord Booster'

covert zodiac
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@iron girder can I add another suggestion? I know ur in middle of one

iron girder
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sure

whole yoke
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Sure thing I’ll work on both

covert zodiac
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I hate it when ppl vote to start on ranked when there's only 8 ppl or less. There should be a way for players to choose a minimum of players to play a game

iron girder
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Oh god nearly helped:0

whole yoke
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@iron girder I don’t think people would like favoriting the first 50 what if they join late instead of wasting a boost for here they could go use it elsewhere losing the purpose

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@covert zodiac actually not a bad idea should this show up as you click play game?

iron girder
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@whole yoke I was thinking of since they were late. But both ways I suppose. Ty and bai

covert zodiac
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@whole yoke either that, or the same way you would choose to participate in clan quests in the settings, or maybe even in our profiles

whole yoke
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Maybe in the settings and a pop up the first time that can be turned off @covert zodiac?

covert zodiac
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Yeah

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As long as the option exists

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And the default, is that its disabled

whole yoke
covert zodiac
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I know I'm one of many that don't like votes to start, when there are very few people in lobby. So I would like to recommend a option in the settings, where we can choose a minimum amount of players we would like to start with. There should be an announcement first time its implemented. And the default, is this option is disabled for those players that don't care.

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Is this fine? @whole yoke

whole yoke
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Bam šŸ’„ done

covert zodiac
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Thanks

mellow stone
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How is 3 able to vote during discussion

covert zodiac
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Lol

whole yoke
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@mellow stone yeah this is a known bug could you give me your device and version number so that I can put it in the database and see that it gets fixed ASAP

opaque pollen
whole yoke
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Wdym

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It’s saying your kind to give a gift here’s a reward for yourself

normal solar
whole yoke
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It is worded a bit odd

normal solar
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yea

stiff edge
runic dragon
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How to dispute your WWO Ban

Message one of the following guardians and make sure you include your Ingamename and name any reasons why the ban is invalid in your initial message. If it comes to discussions do not be rude or your ban will not be taken away.

List of guardians:

  • ioannis => @strong olive (@ioannis#0936 | Guardian Manager)
  • 7mlapine => @spiral glen (@7mlapine#3545)
  • Sharon => @mighty birch (@Sharon#9833)
  • Kem => @crisp thistle (@KemTrangTien#9980)
  • Myrros => @lethal storm (@Myrros#1340)
  • Jan => @normal solar (@Jan10009#5271)
whole yoke
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Follow the message above please

stiff edge
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I don't get it

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How do I find them

whole yoke
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Dm one of the people above

runic dragon
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Since ingame are skin haters, mostly on rankeds. My opinion is to replace avatar as number and name too. Balance more rankeds which means win 40+ skill and lost -15...if ppl had loss streak they got -20/30. Skill can repairs if the ppl will have good win streak. If you know what i mean.šŸ˜‡

whole yoke
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This has been suggested before I’ll add a plus 1 on the database

fierce charm
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OlĆ”

meager gyro
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@fierce charm Hey how can I help you?

whole yoke
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What’s up? @elfin jungle

elfin jungle
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How can i speak with bot for tshirt?

whole yoke
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Ahh okay

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And

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?tester hat

sharp matrix
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The latest version don't allow gunner to shoot in discussion at first day right?

whole yoke
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Yep

sharp matrix
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Because people always questions the gunner hahaha šŸ˜‚

scarlet python
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Add the world leaderboard that will record players skill points and ranks across servers

meager gyro
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That has been suggested before ^^ Thanks for your feedback cute_heart

dense cloud
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How about adding a donation leader board (besides the ledger)?

scarlet python
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Since the sandbox mode is having gunner and marksman as rotating villager killer roles, I think seer should also have a detective as their alternative villager strong investigator for more variant gameplay

meager gyro
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@dense cloud If you click on members and choose the donation filter you are already able to sort everyone by donations šŸ˜‰

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@scarlet python Interesting ideašŸ‘ I'll add it to #feedback-devs Thanks for your suggestion! GWqlabsLove

dense cloud
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Oh ok ty. Btw, is it possible that the ledger doesn't keep a full record but only the x last entries?

meager gyro
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Actually it only saves the entries of the last 30 days šŸ˜…

hasty imp
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Isn't marksman rotated with jailer? Would make more sense anyway

glacial warren
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@hasty imp hey. Marksman is a gunner in the end. He has two "bullets". The only thing, which changed is, that the marksman can't shoot random because if he does, he diesGWowoSmug the jailer could be a protective too

runic dragon
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šŸ‘€ is it just me or is the survey partly in german?

digital swan
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Maybe add a thing ingame that allows us to report people outside of games?

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Like add a thing which allows us to see our match history and see who was in those games

normal wyvern
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How many "game historys" do you want to see?

digital swan
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Add a filter?

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Or like

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20?

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Or 15

normal wyvern
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I like the idea but 1 or 2 is enough

digital swan
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Ok

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Also add a report button

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So that you could report the people outside of games

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In case yoy accidentally exited the match before reporting

meager gyro
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@digital swan The ability to report outside the game was suggested before, also seeing your game histories (for example with friends) ^^ Thanks for the suggestions GWqlabsLove

digital swan
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šŸ‘Œ

normal wyvern
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Maybe it's already been suggested, but it doesn't matter:
It would be good if there were a notification in the game when new updates for the game are out. Not everyone has Discord and not everyone is notified that a new version is available.

normal wyvern
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Since my feedback at that time was ignored after some time:
It should not be possible to shoot a jailed person (by the Marksman), because this person can neither use his Ability or be attacked at this time. The Jailer would lose his use by the Marksman, I feel...

normal solar
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@normal wyvern well the problem is the updates are not avaiable for everyone at the same time

normal wyvern
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I know that, but it would still be better to know when an update is out and what it might contain. I mean, I check almost every day now if there is a new one and it would be more useful if there was one in the game. You can then look and if it's not there yet, then you wait for it.

warm helm
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@normal wyvern the first thing is suggested before, thanks for the feedback ā¤ the second one seems new tho. thanks for suggesting ā¤

silver jetty
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what about adding a countdown befor a gamestart in gamelobbys so you wont get dragged into a game if you dont want to?

digital swan
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There is one already?

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Im pretty sure there is one

warm helm
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^ yea, there is one already. Thanks for the feedback ā¤

normal wyvern
lethal storm
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It should be harder to be able to go in ranked. I know it has been suggested manyyy times, but I hear more in more complains about this, so: is something planned to change this, or should I give rpecise ideas on how the ranked access should be ?

runic dragon
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could you tell your ideas? @lethal storm it would be awesome to hear your ideas about it.GWinfxHeart GWchinaNayuSmile

edgy zinc
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I want the say something to devolopers

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Developers is onlije?

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1 person say im give admin and it is turkish guy i chat him but i dont trust him

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So what im do?

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Hey?

runic dragon
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Yeah phillip and Emanuel are online right now? But yeah i can talk with you in dms and see if i can help^^

edgy zinc
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Wait i give this guys nickname

runic dragon
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Do he is in game? @edgy zinc

edgy zinc
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This guys costum rooms says free admin

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But costum room not have now

runic dragon
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Oh so in game? Did you reported it?

edgy zinc
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No i forget sorry

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If im see

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I tell the nickname

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Ok

quaint bramble
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If I understand correctly, someone was saying he could make people admin. So staff impersonation.

runic dragon
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Hmm i can't help with ing bans etc. Do you get any ss or something? ^^ i mean if you don't report ing, guardians can't do nothing. 😦

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@quaint bramble i know but thanks you GWchinaNayuSmile

edgy zinc
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Im not have ss

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He says im give in the to 7

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Maybe he open costom

lethal storm
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Too many noobs in ranked.
A lot of these players are "ephemeral", they don't fear the bans, they are just here to troll and injure. In case of ban, they will either stop to play or wait for the end of the ban and continue.
If it was harder to come in ranked, most of the toxicity would be removed. Here are my ideas:
-80 wins minimum to enter ranked. It's a lot, it's normal.
-Minimum level required (maybe 20 or even more)
-having played each ranked role at least 3 times, in normal / sandbox.
-Suicide rate maximum 10%. If a player have more, he has to play others gamemodes without suiciding
-A ratio report / games playerd played not exceeding a certain amount. So toxic players who have been ban in the past would not be able to join ranked, except if they play more classic games without breaking the rules

I know it sounds hard, but I bet most of you already have these requirements. It would just prevent trolls and noobies from making the ranked mode less toxic.

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if your suicide rate or report ratio go too high, you won't be able to play ranked anymore and will have to play other gamemodes for some times, to decrease your ratios

quaint bramble
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The suicide rate seems like a new requirement idea and I think it's a very good one.

lethal storm
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ty cute_heart

still orbit
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Sounds cool, but isn’t that a bit too much requirements?

lethal storm
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the values may be changed, but it's not that long to meet these requirements

runic dragon
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Yeah some ideas are suggested before but you have some new things too GWinfxHeart ^^

lethal storm
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I know, I have put them together for the ultimate ranked suggestion šŸ˜Ž because something should REALLY be done. Now that I am guardian, I see horribles things in ranked 😭 šŸ˜‚

runic dragon
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suicide ratio sounds interesting same for ban ratio^^ GWinfxHeart

lethal storm
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ty ^^

clever sierra
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Hey there, I think the fact that people can leave after the countdown starts without repercussions is pretty lame. Ranked games und up with a lobby that is not full. :/

kind trail
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Hey there i got an Idea what maybe could be added in the Game more specific to the Clan menu ... I think it would be nice to have more Ranks then Leader, Vice-Leader and normal Member

Something like Count, Vice Count, ...

normal wyvern
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And what sense should these roles have?

whole yoke
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Yeah this has been suggested before like duden asked what perms should each have

lethal storm
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cough cough

kind trail
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Not roles, Ranks in the Clan ... I am someone promoting ppl who do much dir the Clan but even with 50 members i can't make 20 as vice-leader

whole yoke
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what did I miss while I was sleeping

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Yeah I need to know precisely what each rank does like what permissions should each have

kind trail
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ITS Just a way to promote ppl for outraging Work without everyone being Vice-leaders

normal wyvern
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Sounds pretty pointless, though, to give people an extra role just because they can't become co-leaders.

whole yoke
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@clever sierra and what if they are a player that doesn’t want to play a certain game mode and misclicked now you have inexperienced players in the game

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No I could see it’s used for example you just want them to be able to send invites or accept them but not start clan quests etc

runic dragon
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@lethal storm I think i can post your feedback in feedback devs. Many good ideas (something new and someting old.) But if it would be true are all those requirements in game? or not all?

whole yoke
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Wait @runic dragon

lethal storm
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I think all. The minimum wins and levels just require to play more, and the suicide ratio / report ratio require to play sticking to the rules, which is a good way to punish people breking them

runic dragon
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@whole yoke yes?

whole yoke
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Most of these ideas have been suggested and almost all of them have been declined directly by the devs šŸ˜…

runic dragon
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Hmm okii but wht about suicede ratio? @whole yoke

whole yoke
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Declined

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The only one that wasn’t declined was the playing every role part

lethal storm
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really?? Oh... why?

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things have to change now. The decisions they have made several months ago can ge changed

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the game is not the same

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the community neither

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the ranked is not playable anymore

whole yoke
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They don’t want to split the player base so they try to avoid it as much as possible and ranked already has a low player pool

lethal storm
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except for 1700+

runic dragon
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@lethal storm anyways Thanks for interesting feedbackGWonoMariV

lethal storm
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will it still be posted? Maybe if it gets a high number of upvotes, the devs may consider it again

whole yoke
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@runic dragon what do you think

lethal storm
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an other feedback while the previous one is... awaiting: When we block a player, we should not be able to play with them

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so if the blocked player is in a lobby for a certain gamemode, and I start a game in the same gamemode, it will put me on an other lobby

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(except if they are in the same custom game / play with friends game)

whole yoke
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tbh I thought it was supposed to be like this

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But I would say you can’t play with them at all more like it only puts you in a match with them if it’s the only match

lethal storm
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no, even in this case

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it will create an other lobby, and maybe you'll have to wait more time but rip you

whole yoke
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Hmm idk that seems harsh it would be almost impossible to unblock them then if they change names or something

lethal storm
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no, there can be a list of blocked players

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in the settings or so

whole yoke
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That seems like a new menu over settings maybe a new menu in profile

lethal storm
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do you want me to make a "summarize" of it?

whole yoke
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Yeah sure I think this is a good idea

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I’ll post it up

runic dragon
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@whole yoke @lethal storm
Kinda late sorry for it. As devi said something like it is already sugasted. And devs knows it. GWloopyBlobShrug
But i think 1 post can't kill anyone šŸ˜… so what you think devi?

whole yoke
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I would post it up maybe all of it at once like Myrros said May let them reconsider šŸ¤”

lethal storm
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ty

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because... yeah, ranked is not playable anymore

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and yes ok Devi, i'll make it in one message

kind trail
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@whole yoke

That's a nice idea
Count: can send and accept invitations for the Clan aswell as kick members under his Rank(Vice-Count or less), but not start Clanquest (maybe just once per Clan available)

Vice-Count: can send and accept invitations to Clan and can kick ppl unser his Rank (Baron/ess or Members) (maybe just twice per Clan available)

Baron/ess can send invites and accept nur can't kick anyone

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Maybe without the Vice-Count ...

lethal storm
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Make it so that if you block a player in wwo, in addition to blocking messages, it prevents you and the blocked players from playing together
it means that if you join the same gamemode and server than them, you'll be put in an other lobby (except for custom games and play with friends games)
There will also be a list of blocked players in the settings or somewhere in the player list (a button at the bottom for exemple) so you can unblock them easily.

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Thank you Devi cute_heart

quaint bramble
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Oh that's so needed. I kept ending up in matches with people I blocked/muted, only to find out they were seer or something so I had to take a risk and unblock them just to get some info :/

lethal storm
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Give the sandbox mode a Real button!
With a border etc

Because it looks like an information, there is no difference between it and the numbers of players online

warm helm
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@lethal storm that would be very logicall yes, thanks for your feedback ā¤

lethal storm
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Ty cute_heart

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While we talk a about sb:
This button is useless for players used to sb
Maybe disable it for players who have already played maybe 10 times (or more) to sb, or the possibility to disable it in the settings

opaque pollen
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It's already been suggested šŸ‘

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The button feedback

lethal storm
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I forgot the ss

runic dragon
whole yoke
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Yeah the I agree it should be able to be disabled it has been suggested before though I’ll add your +1 in the feedback database

quaint bramble
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I would rather have the opposite, add some sort of yes/no button so that they have to confirm they have read it

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and then there is once again no more excuse for not speaking english in SB

normal wyvern
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How this will be use?

quaint bramble
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Something like... 'Official language is english, click yes/okay to agree that you have read this'

normal wyvern
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Yea this will be helpful

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Maybe when you joined for the first time a sandbox round you need to accept

digital swan
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So idea, when you open lootboxes it would show you what category your item is in, and if its a duplicate how many coins you got from it. For example: "new epic hairstyle" or "this common backround is a duplicate +10 coins"

meager gyro
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But they already have to confirm the message or you won't be able to play and it's common sense to speak english there šŸ¤”
Thanks for the suggestion! @quaint bramble @normal wyvern

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@digital swan There was a suggestion yesterday that a blue dot hint will show you the way to the new lootbox items šŸ¤” Adding the amount of the gold you'll get was suggested before - for now you may check out the list in the pinned messages of #questions ^^
Thanks for your feedback! 😊

lethal storm
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plz add +1 to these 2 feedbacks:

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something showing if online players are in game or not

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and possibility to sell talismans

meager gyro
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Thanks for the suggestions! Will do itGWqlabsLove

lethal storm
past harbor
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Would be cool if you can do more stuff with Clan Gold
Start with special buyable Clan Icons (easy to implement)
& maybe some boosters in some form or expandable clan space 😃

whole yoke
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Hmm these are not bad ideas and very simplistic like you said easy to implement I’ll see if it’s been suggested before GWofxLove

runic dragon
whole yoke
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I agree I’ll tell our bot mechanic to see if he can fix that

runic dragon
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its not about the bot mechanics

whole yoke
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hes the one with the perms to change it

runic dragon
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its as easy as editing mee6 perms so he cant send messages in the channel

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ah alright

drifting sorrel
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Add a thing in chat after the game that says when people leave. I keep talking to my invisible friend, and I don’t mean the glitched one

opaque pollen
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@drifting sorrel If you look at the player list "offline" will be beside a left player

drifting sorrel
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Yeah, but the side bar doesn’t update

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I meant after the game is over

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Not during the game

opaque pollen
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Ahh

humble breach
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What about a new stat shown on profile ? I propose PER (player efficiency rating) and it can be negative or positive. It shows your average performance in a game, it will be usefull to check if this player is a "good" player or not and it will also help detecting cheaters (PER way too high from average) guardians can use filters to see some players with high PER and examinate their games for exemple and usefull for clan leaders and co leaders to see the overall level of their recruits.

How it will work?
A system checks every actions you will make in game. For exemple when you are gunner and shoots a villager, your PER will lose 5 points (could be more or less), lynch a werewolf as villager (+1 point), revive someone (+1 point), kill a villager with your potion (-4 points) get lynch as a fool (+12 points) lynch the fool (-6points) and etc...

warm helm
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That seems cool, thanks for your feedback ā¤

lethal storm
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Change the sentence if when the sl dies and the sected killed themselves:
The actual one is almost the same as when someone kill himself to leave the game
Which makes no sense, because it's not the same at all

whole yoke
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It says sect member in front of I recall

lethal storm
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I know, but after it's "and commited suicide" all like when someone commite suicide "for real"

whole yoke
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I can see what you mean I’ll post it up

lethal storm
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Ty

young oriole
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Just had the funniest thing šŸ˜‚

whole yoke
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This is feedback šŸ˜…

young oriole
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I was corrupter and i corrupted 4 because we had the same skin... But then i got coupled with 4 and we both died

whole yoke
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šŸ‘€ you’re in the wrong channel could you please talk about this in #wov-chat

young oriole
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Isn't this an awesome feedback? šŸ˜‚

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Karma just got me really hard

pseudo tendon
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Hello, I don't know if it's a bug or am I dumb but when I go to Inventory there's no option of outfit A,B and C. Is there a way to fix it or is it a bug? Thank you!

frozen tangle
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You should report it in #bugs-readonly , it’s also a known bug. Thanks for reporting cute_heart

whole yoke
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cough cough don’t help with bugs

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@pseudo tendon she’s right though it is a known bug could you give me your device and game version also try clearing your cache that may fix your issue

frozen tangle
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SorryGWmythicalGhostHug

pseudo tendon
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Samsung Galaxy A7 2018 version 0.32.14

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Also sorry I am new, I set up a discord account just to ask for this so I didn't see the bug section! ><

glacial trout
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Can I turn off the vibration when a game starts?

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And it would be better to do it after the wheel of roles instead of before

meager gyro
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I guess it's before it, so everyone got the 5seconds to get ready

glacial trout
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Thanks!

wise bough
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I was gunner, coupled with 15 (ww) 9 was cupid. The game ended with a win for the ww as they just killed the fool a night. But why? I had 1 bullet left and at day I would have shot another ww. (Jww was already dead, we all knew that 9 was cupid and the remaining ww's) Then the couple (15 and me) and cupid would have voted the last ww and the couple would have won... Why did this game end there??!! This is stupid! It would have been a perfect plan!

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Oh, and why does the game end this early at this combination of roles left and it doesn't end if only zombies and villagers left?! There you must wait for rounds to end, even if you know that zombies will win. But here the game wouldn't know who wins...

meager gyro
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It's the wws win condition. They will win if they are equal to the villagers (at least) and elimanted all dangers of the night
The ww's win condition got a higher priority than the couple's in this case, so you have to be aware of it while thinking of how to win as couple. You need to lynch the (other) ww the day before the wws killed the fool at night.
@wise bough

wise bough
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I think this win condition should be removed, because the ww who was coupled with me shouldn't count as ww (and I should count as villager), the couple should be seen as couple-class (cupid too) and then there wouldn't been these bad endings. Because what is my aim as a coupled gunner, if the coupled ww just play as a regular ww and just kills all villager, so I am left? This is not the sense of couple gameplay

meager gyro
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I can totally understand your point and your situation but try to see their situation.
It's already hard to win as ww against villagers/ solo (zombie!) And if one of them is coupled and changed teams (spy) it's even harder bc he will think about how to get rid of the others. So this cond is fair imo.. it's still possible to win as couple (and ww - villager is one of the easiest combinations)
Anyway it has been suggested before to change it. Thanks for your opinion and feedback!GWqlabsLove

wraith glen
thin dome
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Here’s my suggestion:
Remove any unknown roles that die when aura checks.
What it does: Makes it easier for the aura to understand what the player could be
Ex: The Headhunter commits suicide. I check 3 and all the unknown roles pop up for the game EXCEPT Headhunter because he is dead.

meager gyro
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I got your point, but the unknown roles are mainly for bad roles to hide šŸ˜… So it's a bit harder to find them
And all the unknown village roles are able to kill (maybe a villager too), except the medium, but they can decide who will live again šŸ¤”
It was already suggested too ^^ Thanks for the suggestion cute_heart

lethal storm
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All badges are turning epic
What about an epic youtuber badge? For 50k views (I doubt it will ever happen but it may motive ppl)

lament frigate
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ehh

lethal storm
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Ehh = "I like your idea"? Or "nope that's bad"

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@meager gyro I think that was not his suggestion...
When the aura player check an unk player, there is a list like "this player can be hh, sk, witch ..." I think he would like this list to show only alive roles, just a little modification about how informations are shown
@thin dome am I right?

meager gyro
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Oh yep misread
That was suggested before
Thanks for the feedback 😊

cursive nexus
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Hey, could you nerf jailer? People just arrest people and then ask for role, otherwise killing them. It might be better if people killed by jailers have their role stay hidden since... Privacy.

I was also thinking of another role that has access to both the werewolf chat and daytime chat and/or can also vote with werewolves. Of course the role should be covered with a paw so the other werewolves can't tell if that player is actually a werewolf or not.

glacial warren
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@cursive nexus heyGWofxLove because of your first suggestion... The jailer is not allowed to just shoot. This would be random. Random is reportable.
The second thing is more for #role-ideas-readonly. I already saw a role like this too (not in game)

sage coyote
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How to get discord shirt??

runic dragon
cold cypress
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But in the jailers description it says smth like "if this player is suspicious, you can shoot him" and when someone doesn't say his role, he is suspicious šŸ¤”
Would it be reportable?

sage coyote
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I know how to get shirt

thin dome
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@lethal storm yes

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Btw I’m a She šŸ˜‚

lethal storm
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Oooh sorry šŸ˜…

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Also, what about my epic youtuber badge idea?

humble breach
warm helm
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@lethal storm 50k views is wayyyy to high for the avarage wwo youtuber and i doubt it will be reachable :/

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@humble breach it isnt really meant to be a set like the giraffe sets šŸ˜„

lethal storm
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@warm helm since when are badges, especially epic badges, for the average wwo player? ;) it would be a special badge that maybe 1 or 2 ppl would get, and it would motive a lot of ppl to create high quality content

warm helm
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@lethal storm yea true but it still has to be reachable, i know it is meant to be pretty rare but they still have to be possible to earn, and how would it look like GWmythsBlobGlare

slate wedge
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when a zombie bites someone but dies make the person thats bitten but unturned yet not turn into a zombie

strong lake
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I'd suggest that there'd be a try out option for when you want to buy some clothes for your character so you can see how it would look before you actually buy it.

slate wedge
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@strong lake you press the eye icon in inventory

lethal storm
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@warm helm idk how it would look like
And tbh idk neither how many views has the most viewed video

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Maybe in some times, when the game will get even more popular, and the video will get even more views, we could think again about it...

slate wedge
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remove zombies

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make them only available in customs

warm helm
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@slate wedge when you die at night while trying to bite someone is already ig! Removing zombies and only place them in custom is suggested before. Thanks for your feedback ā¤

normal wyvern
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Under their name maybe

warm helm
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Thanks for your feedback @normal wyverncute_heart

normal wyvern
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A new feedback? GWqlabsKek

warm helm
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Yea

slate wedge
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minimum level for ranked?

warm helm
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Also that is suggested before (tbh i would like to have that too) thankq for your feedback ā¤

humble breach
normal wyvern
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But not all

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This will be too much

humble breach
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Yes ofc but a button for 3 skins mix for exemple

normal wyvern
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And they'll change after every new skin you can buy at this moment

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For avoid a laggy system

lethal storm
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Or, the epic youtuber badge could be about the number of videos
5 videos with 5k views for exemple or smth like that

humble breach
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So they would make it buyable in another way or just disapear ? (Ye i know #questions but this is a bit related and the only thing i ask)

normal wyvern
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Buyable i guess

warm helm
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@humble breach yea i get what you mean, it could come in handy indeed. Thanks for your feedback cute_heart

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@lethal storm you mean 5 videos with a total of 50k views? Also knowing that only around 5 people have the yt badge this still would be too hard

lethal storm
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Oh only 5 ppl..?

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Ok forget it lol
Maybe in a few months 🤭

warm helm
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Yea, i love the idea but it is really not possibe for now sadly :/

lethal storm
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Yep, I understand
I'll come back in some times, when the game will be even more popular and will have more videos

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Ty cute_heart

warm helm
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Alright GWmythicalGhostHug ā¤

lethal storm
runic dragon
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make it that paci cant reveal in the fist 60 seconds of the game (first day disccusiontime) like gunner to stop gamethrowing in the form of random revealing

warm helm
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That seems intresting, thanks foe your feedback ā¤

carmine patio
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iPhone XS Max display problem for "delete account", it’s on the bar
It’s not a bug, so it’s in feedback?

silver jetty
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what about adding a countdown befor a gamestart in custom/friend gamelobbys so you wont get dragged into a game if you dont want to?

warm helm
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@carmine patio yea thats definitely not a bug amd it looks like its prtty qnnoying to press it, thanks for your feedback ā¤

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@silver jetty so you mean something like in the sandbox and quick game servers?

carmine patio
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Thanks haha

quaint bramble
warm helm
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@quaint bramble thank you for reporting this error ā¤

quaint bramble
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I cant believe I've been so distracted by the loot box reward for so long, that i never noticed this before šŸ˜…

warm helm
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Nor did anyone else did

lethal storm
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Hmmm... I think that's ok

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it has already been discussed

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and we can say "congratulation" without a s

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(if I remember correctly)

quaint bramble
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Hm maybe but that would be highly unusual. And I could argue that we are congratulated by the devs, so at least 2 ppl, so it should be in multiple form, with s :P

woven needle
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@warm helm I think that "Congratulations" problem is already fixed ;)

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In the next update at least ;)

lethal storm
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Ok sorry for my intervention then..

woven needle
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Lol

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That's alright

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Also the word "congratulations" is ONLY written with an "s", there is no singular/plural form @quaint bramble 😁

quaint bramble
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Yeah I did think so but hey I keep an open mind haha.

silver jetty
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@warm helm yeah, thats what i mean šŸ‘€

warm helm
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@silver jetty alright, thanks you for the feedback, i will post it in #feedback-devs

dusk sonnet
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A good way to stop random shooting is to make it so gunner can't kill villagers, but instead it wastes a bullet and neither one of them dies. Kind of like priest but you don't die for shooting a villager

woven needle
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(In my opinion that's really unfair for WW/SL-ZB/Solo roles. Let's say the gunner has no choice but to shoot someone in a clutch situation, if they shoot the bad guy, village wins. If they shoot the good guy, they know he's good because he didn't die, therefore village still wins. It's not really balanced)

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@dusk sonnet

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But hey that's just my opinion GWloopyBlobShrug

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After all it's like you said, it's like priest but you don't die, pretty broken.

latent saddle
latent saddle
lethal storm
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Preventing the gunenr from shooting day 1 was a mess. So please add +1 to the list, for the "make gunner free again" feedback

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and make it so it's the same for paci: The paci should not be able to reveal before vote

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in contrary to the gunner, there is no cases where it can be good to reveal before the vote

ruby cedar
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Both has been suggested (and for Paci, it's just posted up at #feedback-devs)