#speculations

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lean osprey
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tbh if yule wasn't an event role it could be its own base role

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are these for valentines update??

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what is EC?

solid abyss
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Yule need to be in jww bec role block ability

rapid birch
lean osprey
finite nest
lean osprey
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for junior it only fits there cuz of sacrifice

lean osprey
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evil cupid is insti

finite nest
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Valentine role

solid abyss
lean osprey
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or is there ANOTHER evil cupid now?

agile basin
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evil cupid is evil cupid

lean osprey
solid abyss
finite nest
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Here

lean osprey
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where can I see all the new roles being added

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tbh I would LOVE ED to be a base role :D

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only so I can finally play it

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because I keep getting stupid canni when I upgrade sk

solid abyss
# lean osprey wdym

Go main menu on wov -> Profile -> Go down you need to see event segmemt -> Then u see in past event u collect which items and not

lean osprey
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can you see the current items?

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as well

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like whichever one is active

solid abyss
lean osprey
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no I mean if there's an event with role icons can I see the icons there too

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if the event is ongoing

solid abyss
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Idk ongoing part

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Since we didnt get any new event after new bp

lean osprey
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cool :D

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tysm

solid abyss
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Np

lean osprey
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more reminders of how sad I am to have missed the icons I wanted the most 🥀

golden kindle
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I've never tracked it, don't know

lean osprey
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wait how'd I get christmas 2023 role icons when I didn't play then

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I got the game in 2025 😭😭

solid abyss
lean osprey
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I'M SO MAD

solid abyss
lean osprey
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I MISSED THE PRIDE EVENT 😭

lean osprey
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YES

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MAYBE I CAN GET THAT ONE SORC ICON I REALLY WANT

rapid birch
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Yeah they just add icons to the pool of already existing ones

lean osprey
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is the black fancy sorc icon with red eyes in the pool I can get? where is it?

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I really want that icon 🥹 it looks so cool

solid abyss
# lean osprey really? 👀

Yeah for eaxmple 2023 -> 5 icon + 2024 -> 6 icon they added to pool and u have a bigger rng to collect roles thats why I dont try to finish val each year 10 new icon 🥀

lean osprey
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I was honestly annoyed at with the old howls new pals event I was only able to get one icon and it was the one I wanted the least 🥀

lean osprey
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I WANT THAT ONE

solid abyss
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I think

lean osprey
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SO BAD

rapid birch
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Sorry

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It's battle pass

lean osprey
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

forest pecan
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Lol

solid abyss
lean osprey
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MY DREAM SORC ICON WHYYYY

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😭

rapid birch
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Came from the 42nd one, the gothic one

forest pecan
solid abyss
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Oh bp number

lean osprey
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oh I like that sorc icon too but

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that one from bp I've always wanted 🥀

rapid birch
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Yeah 42nd bp

lean osprey
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wowww my stats are pathetic 😭 48 wins as solo killer but 333 losses as solo killer

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I suck lmao

olive prism
rapid birch
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Solo killer is tough tbf

lean osprey
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it is

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my only concern is there's several gameswhere solo killer honestly does NOT deserve the win over wolves yet village still sides with them

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like yeah it's harder to win as but you didn't even try and it gets handed to you while wolves played almost perfectly

solid abyss
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😭 I dont even know when I bought that sorc icon

lean osprey
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that's one of my biggest pet peeves

lean osprey
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I WANNA TRADE

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I'LL GIVE YOU ANYTHING PLEASE

solid abyss
lean osprey
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🥹

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YAYAY

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ILY

solid abyss
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But there is no option

lean osprey
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):

solid abyss
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For trade

lean osprey
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ykw

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I'mma make a feedback

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for trading role cards and icons

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that you don't want or have duplicates off

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EVERYONE UPVOTE!!

solid abyss
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And even tough there would be feedback I think they would be limit to only event role icons since u can collect them in the future but u cant collect again old bp icon

lean osprey
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you can collect old bp icons?? how

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tell me please

solid abyss
lean osprey
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I just want that one icon

solid abyss
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🥀

lean osprey
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awww

solid abyss
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U can collect old event icons since if there is none game would give it back

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I think

lean osprey
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oh?

solid abyss
lean osprey
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PLZ I DESPERATELY WANT THAT ICON

buoyant patio
solid abyss
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U can buy a account who have that icon or someone who bored from wob can gift u

lean osprey
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you can gift someone an old icon?

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really

buoyant patio
lean osprey
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how

lean osprey
solid abyss
# buoyant patio Wdym

With gems or irl u can buy another players account I know some dc servers have market for that but like masha said its illegal

lean osprey
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it's not illegal

buoyant patio
lean osprey
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it's just against TOS

solid abyss
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._.

lean osprey
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which can just get you a banned account 🥱 making the purchase pointless

lean osprey
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pretty sure it's not illegal. buuuuuuut it's also not illegal for WOV to ban your account for it lol

forest pecan
solid abyss
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Anyways

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I need

forest pecan
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Just joking

solid abyss
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Gentle wolf

lean osprey
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dude it ain't helping me get the icon I want I don't wanna buy an account lmao waste of money

solid abyss
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Back

lean osprey
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what's that

forest pecan
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Gentle wolf is mid

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Rainmaker is where it's at

solid abyss
buoyant patio
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I need Rainmaker back

lean osprey
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aw why

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what do those roles do btw

solid abyss
forest pecan
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😭

lean osprey
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I thought confusion wold was blind wolf's lover?

forest pecan
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BL triangle

solid abyss
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Blind and Gentle

lean osprey
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🤔

solid abyss
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Aura and Seer

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Bg and Gl

buoyant patio
lean osprey
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how do you know which roles love which roles

forest pecan
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There's an emote of blind and gentle kissing

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As toys

forest pecan
# buoyant patio

This was annoying when tested only because of throwers, giving it randomly/ to evils 🫩

solid abyss
lean osprey
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wdym

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oooo

buoyant patio
# buoyant patio

GENTLE WOLF
You can select a player during the discussion phase to increase the amount of votes required to lynch that player by 1 for every 4 living players. You can protect up to 2 players this way. Other werewolves can see which player you selected.

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I don’t have a pic rn

lean osprey
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🤔 I kinda like that

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so it's advanced shadow?

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or advanced guardian?

buoyant patio
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It was just tested so we never got a role card for it

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I’m assuming Guardian

forest pecan
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It did replace guardian in the setup

buoyant patio
rapid birch
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Add Gentle and Rainmaker together, call it the voting update

solid abyss
# buoyant patio

I love this role but if u bileve a kitten or blind wolf informer/rrv fake claim

U can chnage stick this makes lile u throwed so everynight rainmaker should able to choose btw A) Put new stick B) Chnage stick placement C) Remove stick from X player ( u dont gonna return back )

lone spade
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texting here

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not texting in dms

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i see

rapid birch
lone spade
solid abyss
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LOL

rapid birch
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The Knight

solid abyss
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Hollow knight

rapid birch
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From the hit game Hollow Knight

buoyant patio
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I’ve been waiting ever since you asked

solid abyss
lone spade
solid abyss
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Im to lazy to make one

buoyant patio
solid abyss
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Can u jist told devs or somethong

buoyant patio
solid abyss
buoyant patio
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I’m being trolled

lone spade
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can I ask y‘all who is a bigger pro me or @rapid birch ? 😎

solid abyss
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I literaly said Im to lazy to make fb can u let staff know

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Let me make it quickly

lone spade
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@buoyant patio 😎

solid abyss
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Since I take photo

buoyant patio
solid abyss
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In 2025 Birth day Event segment area

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Swamp wolf

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Wolf seer

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Red lady

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Icons missing

agile basin
agile basin
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omg and that's Silksong

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loved that character

bleak sail
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I saw this here, is it new or is it already in the game?

lean osprey
forest pecan
wind sun
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:0

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New roles

solid abyss
lean osprey
bleak sail
forest pecan
mighty fractal
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Amazing role idea for easter:

dapper walrus
mighty fractal
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Evil Priest
Each Discussion phase you can kill a player if the player you want to kill is ww you Die instead

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You win with the Werewolf team

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Advanced of alpha

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(you don't see any wolves)

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And wolves don't see you

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You can be killed by wolves

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Balanced?

mighty fractal
dapper walrus
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i love 😍

lean osprey
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And also it should reveal role to everyone when done

forest pecan
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Still too weak

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If you try watering a wolf. Instead of only you dying, the entire village dies and it ends in a tie

uneven umbra
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@olive prism after 3 nights👩🏻‍🦲

olive prism
uneven umbra
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11 was off anyway

olive prism
uneven umbra
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i stole some flowers, hope u dont mindkekw2

proper mica
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Yay

smoky sable
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Nub

summer mango
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pls code

wind sun
bleak sail
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I was in a game and saw someone using the junior wolf icon from the bundle that hasn’t been released yet, how is that possible?

bleak sail
tacit lotus
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Well at least it shows in the wishlist

bleak sail
# tacit lotus

Yes, but I don’t know how this girl managed to do it, that’s why I was amazed.

ocean glade
solid abyss
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Bec I get Void Chrome bundle code before it realse

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And I can use the icons

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And this means bundle close to realse

uneven umbra
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i am screaminnggggirlyay

ruby hornet
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Its sooo cute i love it

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I might get it thought im not a big fan of bundle i think

uneven umbra
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this front is so cutec_pepeprotectheart

limber kite
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wtf will happen if the game ends in a 3 day tie and the admi target is still alive 🤔

ruby hornet
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🤷‍♂️

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Dunno

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I guess he wont win with the alliance

teal latch
uneven umbra
teal latch
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like

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woah woaah

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but still i love it smm

uneven umbra
teal latch
uneven umbra
undone wadi
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Is there any way to request a skin design

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I really want a good evil-ish sheep-lamb skin

tacit lotus
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Wait wasn't that bundle teased a long time ago? Or at least leaked? I could swear I have seen that image already 😦

dusky perch
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verymad at least one bundle coming tomorrow

keen flare
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Where is the flower bundle?

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Cute bundle tho, it was made by kem or nighty?

solid abyss
solid abyss
keen flare
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I was talking about littlr lamb actually

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I was talking about flower bundle bc we got a 10€ offer of violinist without a role icon

olive prism
keen flare
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Yes, he always does that

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There is no way we would get a flower violinist outfit if she doesn't or won't have a lavender icon

mental forge
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Nighty really knows what they are doin those on fire

dusky perch
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no they dont

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where gr icon verymad

olive prism
dusky perch
torpid sparrow
uneven osprey
raw steppe
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You doing a great bundle,take rest

uneven osprey
raw steppe
vestal shale
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Yall

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When Will I Ever get rid of these icons thing

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Are these infinite

agile basin
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not infinite

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there are just...

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109

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for now

wind lichen
raw steppe
vestal shale
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Guess im lucky im never having these

humble heart
wind lichen
obtuse folio
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@dusky perch the chromvoid icon is an aura one no ?

icy zephyr
obtuse folio
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on salem's sheet

tacit lotus
obtuse folio
tacit lotus
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is it

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available somwhere

obtuse folio
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let me check that

solid abyss
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Oh she changed it

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Or I cant see on phone

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23 on icons / 32 at items

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Zamn I have a lot to go on finish all icons

solid abyss
obtuse folio
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yeah ik it's aura because at that moment i was in a game where aura had this icon 🥲

solid abyss
obtuse folio
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that's how i noticed lmao

solid abyss
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I didnt update the bundle return list yet

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Waiting for yeehaw and little lamb to come

obtuse folio
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what do the outfits name of sweet dream collection means ? 😭😭

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are they random words ?

dusky perch
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how did i miss that

rapid birch
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FT icons are always the best

lone spade
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<3

rapid birch
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Nah gotta be the FT icons

lone spade
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🙄

rapid birch
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I wouldn't be me if I weren't annoying, I'll Nether stop

lone spade
rapid birch
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Froget about it. If you can't handle a ribbiting conversation, then I've toad you, leave me to croak

lone spade
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at least now everybody sees what i have to put up with

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😣

silent crystal
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i love those frog jokes wym?

torpid moth
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but the bundle icon with the farmers icons isn’t came out yet…

forest pecan
frozen onyx
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can anyone help me w/ this ee 👀

pulsar shoal
frozen onyx
solid abyss
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Cherry if see this :3
Evil cupid = Eros
Eros ( Romanian Love God ) We talk with ruby in here

sharp flint
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Bruh😭

pulsar shoal
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anyone who has this skin can help me get the ee please? ShyKitty

solid abyss
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Kem said he will fix size but

pulsar shoal
pulsar shoal
kind ridge
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Only matching and send rose right?

pulsar shoal
kind ridge
pulsar shoal
kind ridge
kind ridge
pulsar shoal
kind ridge
raw steppe
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I know serial_killer is refence of

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but i can't proof

true bloom
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Don't worry, if you plan on fixing it, I've got this prove sect_agree

eager sinew
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they gotta stop making new good bundles ahhh so many that i can't get.. I'm not usually into animal bundles but the lamb bundle is kinda goth coded, and i kinda love the icons

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i wish i was rich on gems

bleak sail
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I just saw that someone has a profile picture; has that option been enabled yet? How can I do it? ☹️

buoyant patio
dusky perch
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Another monday without bundle

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I accidentally bought this calendar to find out i already own it 🫠

oak sequoia
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How can you buy a calendar again if you already have it ? Tf

agile basin
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I guess obtained though a code/manually added reward (i.e. giveaway)

feral sluice
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I love this bodypaint

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Its so beautiful chiikawa_bald

agile basin
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ngl I would buy

verbal jetty
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i cudnt find in my inventory..

indigo kite
indigo kite
wind lichen
raw steppe
indigo kite
tacit lotus
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Sigma sigma boy

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🫠😭🌟😜✌🏻🫤🫠✨🗣️🎱🗣️😭😱🎉🌟😝✌🏻😭🤨🙈🔥🤣🔥😑🥱😑🤬🤬😭🥱😭🫵🏻😭😗😗✨🫠🤣🌟😭🌊😝🥱😦🌟🫤✌🏻😦🙏🏻🔥

pulsar shoal
half citrus
dusky perch
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I only remembered having sweethalloween

median wedge
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The hair on this skin has shifted downwards.

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@worn marten

silent crystal
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designers are aware but I wonder when will it get fixed?

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if I let my clan members know they might get angry for wasting gems doing quest for a bugged skin

silent crystal
silent crystal
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"you can have hair while still bald" on a whole new level

median wedge
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I want this to be fixed, I still like this skin, I hope my clan will buy it, and that they will fix the hair.

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I want to inform the developers and designers so they can fix this, as there was a bug with the missing tombstone in the battle pass.

silent crystal
median wedge
silent crystal
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even tho I've seen people reporting it couple days ago

median wedge
silent crystal
median wedge
dapper walrus
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the issue has been known since the update i believe JN_sip

median wedge
silent crystal
iron cove
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Wasted bec of placement. GW_kek_dog who's guilty?

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Fg survived it but rip bg frfr

silent crystal
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Blame it all on Kem!
/jk

iron cove
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Hh 😭

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Wait- everything but mouth is shifted right 😨

silent crystal
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I thought just the hair and eyes

buoyant patio
vagrant mauve
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I need the yeehaw bundle so bad

dusky perch
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Say less

torpid sparrow
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And play them where?????

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No seer or no bg in any setup

buoyant patio
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And Bodyguard is in Advanced mode

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So both are in setups CB_happycat

torpid sparrow
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oh, I must have mistook seer for aura

buoyant patio
torpid sparrow
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I think I bugged out my game

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If the village team talisman effected by the talisman preservation perk, then not

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I'd see "talisman not consumed" on roles I didnt have talis equipped on whilst having village team talismans

sweet pier
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It’s intentional cause unlimited talismans can still trigger xD

uneven umbra
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of u send a rose to someone using the cookzone front u get the loadingfroglunatic

sand notch
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What happens if admirer target dies while admirer still alive?

silent crystal
ruby hornet
proven oracle
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if I am admirer can i just make hh/fool win so that I would win? (unless my target was fool), also only two event role this valentine?

silent crystal
sweet pier
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Like the description

silent crystal
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@sweet pier

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A reversed hh kinda

sweet pier
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So uh

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What happens if target dies

forest pecan
sweet pier
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Btw

warped citrus
forest pecan
sweet pier
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Tbh

warped citrus
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Also wait a minute I swear I've seen you before :3

sweet pier
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When did you get here 😭

warped citrus
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Uhh

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Right before xmas

silent crystal
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No way to win so can do whatever, side with whoever

silent crystal
sweet pier
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I’m just a stupid blue dog

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That’s about it

warped citrus
warped citrus
sweet pier
raw steppe
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Waiting to lose

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Salem was confirm that she not villager side

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So we have 2 way
1: she belong to solo voting
2: she belong to 3th side

sand notch
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You know, this is pretty much an insta win if your target is fool

silent crystal
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So not an insta win

sand notch
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But even if it's not insta win, you have a high chance of winning because evils would know to leave Fool alone. Your only problem is the RK

silent crystal
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Still, there won’t be Admirer + Fool in a normal setup

sand notch
silent crystal
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Nah it’s almost the opposite to hh so I’m 99% sure it will be hh adv

raw steppe
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You mean ?
Romio and Juiet ?

silent crystal
raw steppe
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Make sense

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I think he wanna play roblox

sand notch
silent crystal
# sand notch Random Other

I’d say RO roles are usually mixing two sides (vill + evil) to cause chaos, while Admirer or other voting roles causing chaos by being the third party…

sand notch
feral sluice
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Perhaps

runic cargo
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Does next kill attempt include lynching for admirer?

raw steppe
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How long to this release..

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I need this

silent crystal
silent crystal
silent crystal
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@raw steppe are you satisfied with my answer?

raw steppe
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Wdym

uneven umbra
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this is the front, you can find it in the inventory for 1 rose!

agile basin
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oh Cookzone is out already?

uneven umbra
raw steppe
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I love that Dog

cosmic sparrow
# uneven umbra

kinda busy kinda busy sorry i can not hear u im kinda busy top telephoning me im kinda busy?? stop calling stop calling i dont wanna think anymore stop calling stop calling i dont wanna talk anymore stop telephoning me?

shy ingot
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Can't wait for the little lamb bundle

dusky perch
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fr

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@uneven osprey hurry up

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<t:1768909636:R> wow this is new

agile basin
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yep

unique hollow
# silent crystal They lose…?

Idk the answer but if is going to be advanced of Cupid she should flee the village imo, otherwise is too boring for whoever is admirer

tulip obsidian
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@dusky perch do u have the twitch hat already?

dusky perch
uneven osprey
mild grove
tulip obsidian
raw steppe
uneven umbra
buoyant patio
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Looks like a set

uneven umbra
uneven osprey
obtuse folio
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any hints 👀

raw steppe
half citrus
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weird how its team desc is neither "solo" nor "none"

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basically admirer is GA from tos, without the Surv gimmick
(or admirer from tos2 being teamless)

sweet pier
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Can we talk about the fact that admirer should join the team of their target

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?

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That makes more sense than

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“Haha your target died you lose”

wind sun
# half citrus weird how its team desc is neither "solo" nor "none"

I think "none" means you have no win condition (like lurker at the start of the game)

"Solo" could make sense, but I would say solo roles win conpletely on their own, which isn't true for admirer

I think "teamless" is supposed to mean "you don't belong to a team but you have a win condition"

dusky perch
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Same thing

sweet pier
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From what I’ve headd

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Heard*

dusky perch
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Just our thought

unique hollow
sweet pier
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I think it works as hh

unique hollow
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And tbh I don't think we should reward the role if the target dies, otherwise it may actively try to kill it

sweet pier
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It’s the exact opposite of hh

sweet pier
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They know their “team” through their target

unique hollow
unique hollow
sweet pier
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How’s it Gamethrowing

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Sorry

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U mean

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I mean

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How’s it rewarding?

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If they joined the team their target is on when they died… they functionally don’t change team

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In fact killing them

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Would just make the admirer more likely to lose

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And technically speaking you don’t NEED to side with your target

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You just need them to live

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It’s like guardian angel in town of Salem

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Even if your target list the game, you won since he’s alive

visual bone
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Jesus christ the icon dowgrade is real

unique hollow
sweet pier
unique hollow
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Even if admirer has similarities with hh doesn't mean it should replace it, specially since admirer could join the village under your logic and hh was specifically changed to avoid that

thick lotus
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do we only have two so far

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also

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coraline ahh icon

forest pecan
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Coraline goated

torpid sparrow
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WAIT

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THIS COULD BE THE NEW CUPID ADVANCED

torpid sparrow
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and also yes, making it so you can win with your target would make it much better

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thats just a kingmaker without their target

solid abyss
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💪

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Im a big boy and Im 6 wov old

solid abyss
sweet pier
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You either

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Try to get your target executed, they die and you with with wolves of RK

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or

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Try to keep your target Alive, and should you fail to do that you just join whatever team they were on

unique hollow
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I don't mind admirer joining the team of the target if it dies (even tho it sounds like a reward for throwing) as long as it is cupid or cursed advanced, it does not make any sense as hh advanced.

sweet pier
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It doesn’t

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If for any reason the admirer kills their target, they still lose a teamate

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Weather it’s village or evil

unique hollow
sweet pier
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Advanced roles aren’t really meant to “replace”

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They’re supposed to be a rule that’s somehow similar while being different

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Don’t count BG a nd SA

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SA won’t make sense no matter where you put it

unique hollow
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Sa makes sense tbh

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But following your logic astro could cast a new moon every night and that would be ok

sweet pier
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M be no

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Oops

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Absolutely no

unique hollow
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Is similar but different to witch

sweet pier
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Astronomer is just a “fuck you wolves” button

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Incredibly unbalanced role

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But still same style as witch

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1 protect 1 kill

unique hollow
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Exactly, so an advanced role of hh should want a villager lynched and prevent random lynch

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Admirer is nowhere near that

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And also it should not side with the village under any circumstance

forest pecan
sweet pier
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Also

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Don’t don’t need to side with their target

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They just need to make sure they are alive when the game ends

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Doesn’t care if their target wins or loses

unique hollow
sweet pier
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Old hh used to be village sided..

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And was left that way for many years

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Xd

unique hollow
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And it isn't anymore for a reason

unique hollow
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And even without that new win condition, admirer doesn't prevent random lynching in any way so that's another reason why I cannot be hh advanced

sweet pier
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I still think losing the game because of someone out of your control isn’t very fair

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Something*

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Werewolves could just kill your target last minute to ensure you lose

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Same with rk

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Or the village

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1 protection isn’t exactly a lot

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Especially if your target would be a high priority target like seer

teal ravine
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Heres a bigger deal for Admirer : running_villager

forest pecan
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I think you'd just get reassigned a target

wooden arch
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I think night 1 if the one you admire dies, you admire a new one

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otherwise, that's just instant lose if you don't

teal ravine
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Whats night 1 gonna do to admirer 😐

wooden arch
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Train of thought, if wws about to win by voting out a vill but your admired target is vill. May be favourable to side with werewolves to end the game as long as they don't vote ur admired one.

raw steppe
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This mbs feb so cool

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But..

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The FA people belike:

forest pecan
feral sluice
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Whats next

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Valentine in february rifht

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Right

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Upgrade event i mean

unique hollow
tacit lotus
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Sigmq boy

bitter wadi
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admirer needs to atleast steal the lover, making a solo team

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cause this version is literally "give +2 to a random team"

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even grave robbers better

teal ravine
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Maybe they can replace surv with lurker but im doubtful of the balancing team if there even is one

bitter wadi
teal ravine
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Whispers would be so goated here, however verymad

dusky perch
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What make sense is admirer adv of cupid

silent crystal
dusky perch
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As 4th team similar to couple team you dont know they. Village or evil plays on their own

dusky perch
# silent crystal Not hh?

All rv have big chance to win as long as you are alive dont make sense to make rv role cant win while still alive

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And sounds all rv better

silent crystal
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Maybe it’s a twist

dusky perch
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Idk but role listed with cursed , cupid and seasonal roles not rv

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Seasonal as Santa , eb and pk*

silent crystal
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I’m seeing admirer as a reversed hh that’s why I’m betting on Admirer being hh’s adv

dusky perch
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I would pick hh

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Win with any evil or get target lynched

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Target died? You still win as dead hh

dusky perch
bitter wadi
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tbh it should be gr advanced

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gr has no placement either, and both are +1/2 to their target team

silent crystal
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Idk but then evil has to win for hh to win…

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Either way chance of winning for admirer is slim, which is similar to all RV… isn’t that fitting?

unique hollow
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The winning chances depend on the game but I've seen matches where half of the players are still alive, others where only a quarter remain and very rarely I see games where only three or less survive at the end. In any case your chances go from 25% to 50% in most games which is definitely not close to hh win rate

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(and it doesn't prevent random voting so would be unbalanced as hh advanced)

silent crystal
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I’d say just wait and test it out

unique hollow
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I agree

dusky perch
silent crystal
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But who would care about admirer found day one… eh idek

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Still vote her off?

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But then admirer still got a chance to win while hh being voted out day one is 100% a loss

dusky perch
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So much possibilities

vestal shale
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Am I laggy?

tacit lotus
vestal shale
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No but the outfit

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The hair the rest

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Face and mouth

tardy agate
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I mean was worked on to get fixed so yea

surreal drum
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Are there gonna be two different profile frames for moonlight kawaii as it looks from the preview?

uneven umbra
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like this is even funnierkekw2

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in game is normal...

agile basin
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It's like vampiwolf's box lmao

uneven umbra
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well not really

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the box makes or made u small in game

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this is bugged outside the game

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and btw what is this black moon?

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okey nothing, its the moon with the shirt keaka

torpid sparrow
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you could scream and cry and cc the informer

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hoping to create enough chaos to keep the target alive

tardy agate
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Lol

uneven umbra
worldly sky
keen flare
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Valentines day again and again >:(

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Is there another valentines day role? Other than evil cupid and mid-mirer

forest pecan
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Both are mid

keen flare
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Nah evil cupid is tuff

tacit lotus
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I like it 🔥

torpid sparrow
#

did I seriously miss another role leak AGAIN?

bitter wadi
agile basin
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is evil instigator evil or good tho

ocean glade
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good with evil aura

mental forge
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Can someone send admirer again

limber kite
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no you are confusing something here

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evil cupid and good instigator

torpid sparrow
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where do I find them 🫠

sweet pier
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Admirer and Evil Cupid

forest pecan
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@mental forge

forest pecan
torpid sparrow
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man I'm so hyped for Admirer

limber kite
waxen pawn
sweet pier
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They did only 1 for new year

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Looks like

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2 for Valentine’s Day

waxen pawn
sweet pier
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That could actually be a cool idea for a vigilante advanced

waxen pawn
silent crystal
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A literal fool but villager side - everything you type in chat turns into gibberish

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How about that for April Fish’s role

waxen pawn
silent crystal
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Wow, 300!

waxen pawn
# silent crystal Wow, 300!

I have them decorated like this, the only problem is that they're all in Spanish. I'm still looking for a translator to help me translate them properly into English.

silent crystal
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Ah, bueno cat_likeit

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One of few Spanish words I know

waxen pawn
sweet pier
lean osprey
lean osprey
sweet pier
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Also nice Bassie pfp

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I kinda like admirer don’t care much for Ec

lean osprey
# forest pecan

My opinion: Admirer should be advanced Headhunter (otherwise it’s unbalanced in games with a huge favor towards evils, and the gameplay is simply the direct opposite of HH)
A good base role for Evil Cupid is iffy. I would say Cupid since instigator is also a solo killer role, however it seems more fit to be another solo killer. It could actually probably work really well as advanced corrupter, as corrupter line focuses on using (mis)information to get players killed and protect yourself.

lean osprey
sweet pier
lean osprey
# sweet pier Stash up on cards

Yeah I have been stashing up for the Valentines event. I was only annoyed because 4 new roles would get in the way of the other three cards I have ready to upgrade next

lean osprey
sweet pier
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I mean it’s easy for me to stockpile cards

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I have all mythics except
Sheriff
Cupid
Detective
RV

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I kinda just

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Have them

lean osprey
sweet pier
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I have all event roles legendary

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😭

lean osprey
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I don’t have any mythical 😭 only one gold

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Which is pumpkin oracle

sweet pier
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Tbh I just did that so I can make myself impossible to meta

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Since I can be anything at any time

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And have any role icon

lean osprey
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Lmaooo valid

forest pecan
torpid sparrow
sweet pier
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Imo

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Since it’s kinda like a lurker in some sense

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But their “team” depends on target

forest pecan
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Evil cupid?

forest pecan
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Im talking about evil cupid being cupid advanced would be op to evils

sweet pier
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Oh

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I thought you meant admirer sorry

faint laurel
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I like Ec as arso advanced and Admirer as cursed advanced

forest pecan
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It's fine, I think admirer could be cursed or HH tbh

warm shore
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Where did they leak new role info i couldnt see one

sweet pier
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Check media

forest pecan
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They leak them here

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Only two have been revealed

faint laurel
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it being hh just doesnt make sense to me. Ww would lose so easily

warm shore
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Not a special announcment channel hmm

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Honestly evil cupid seems like a useless solo again

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And it will be very hard to win as admirer while playing quick game i think

sweet pier
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I think the player the admirers after should know they have an admirer

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Not who said admirer is

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But just that they have one

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Or

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Admirer -> Yandere and becomes like Instigator if their love dies

forest pecan
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What would that do exactly though

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Telling you if you have an admirer

warm shore
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i think it need a huge rework it will leave like instigators old version

sweet pier
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Idk it feels. semi appropriate to call Admirer in this game a Neutral Benign

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Even though this isn’t town of Salem

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And I’m gonna keep saying it, this game is sort of like town of Salem simplified

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I’m gonna add to my long list of reasons to way I say that.

(Don’t get it wrong tho I love this game xD)

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Aura seer is town of Salem sheriff

Alpha werewolf would be godfather, the only wolf to not be evil but to be unknown

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I would love to see spirit_seer walk into Salem

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And see as evil team members will be blue

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Since only 1-2 of them are killing

lean osprey
#

Alright: when you think about how Yule Wolf works (advanced Junior) and compare it to other roles, it’s basically holding the abilities of Nightmare/Voodoo both at once. Let me explain. So while yuled, the yuled players cannot use their abilities. Instead of just night abilities it also extends to day abilities as well. Voodoo makes it so that silenced players can’t speak or vote. Yule doesn’t take away the ability to speak, but it DOES make the yuled players unable to vote similar to voodoo. Putting the roleblock from the Nightmare Wolf/Voodoo’s second ability with the Voodoo making people unable to vote put together - just used all at once instead of one at a time - you get Yule Wolf. The sacrifice to stop the Yule mostly seems to come from Junior/Party Wolf’s sacrifice, but could also be attributed to Yule not being able to keep everything in control easily at once and so the diversion breaks the ability.

My theory: Yule wolf is the offspring the offspring of Nightmare Wolf and/or Voodoo wolf, or somehow otherwise related as it takes their abilities and morphs them as you’d expect a child to do when they inherit both their parents’ abilities.

sweet pier
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Voodoo werewolf is furry blackmailer

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:3

lean osprey
# sweet pier Since only 1-2 of them are killing

Lmaooo it’s the same thing for Mafia Mystery haha. I’d love to see it. The games not that popular tho and I got into Wolvesville because I loved MM, but it became too much P2W and I could hardly get into good games anymore. Really liked how Wolvesville wasn’t like that, had more roles variety, its fast to get into games, and is just overall a fun game

lean osprey
#

Where’s that from

sweet pier
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Blackmailed players cannot talk during the day

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But can still vote

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Blackmail wasn’t limited and could blackmail every night

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And spam blackmail the same person

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Then you have confusion wolf: Janitor

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Nightmare ww: Consort

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Wolf scribe: Forger

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Wolf seer: Consigliere

lean osprey
#

ooo gotcha

lean osprey
sweet pier
#

I like to imagine Wolvesville as a very basic town of Salem

lean osprey
lean osprey
sweet pier
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Consort roleblocks someone every night

Consigliere does exactly what wolf seer does but only to the consig

Janitor can visit a player with a mafia killing to make their role show up as Cleaned

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Consigliere will get their targets role with a fancy little message like I don’t remember a lot of them word for word

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Your target likes to watch things burn, they must be an arsonist!

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Wolvesville and town of Salem are the same game with different complexity

lean osprey
#

the funny thing is that the only reason I got into Wolvesville was because I started with Mafia Mystery then once that game started getting rid of the only things making it enjoyable, I wanted to still play but couldn't stay on Mafia so I downloaded Wolvesville and started playing because it seemed similar and was the type of game I liked

sweet pier
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Wolvesville just has “is the player protected yes/no”

Town of Salem it’s:

what’s the attackers attack level? Basic/powerful/unstoppable?

What’s the targets defence?
None/basic/powerful/invincible?

And goes from there

lean osprey
#

might try out that game sometime just for that XD

sweet pier
#

Town of Salem has Defence and attack levels

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Wolvesville just has yes or no to if the attack can go through

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If we were to imagine town of Salem logic with alpha werewolf

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Alpha werewolf would have basic attack and be not suspicious to sheriff

lean osprey
sweet pier
#

Basic defence*

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Which would mean alpha werewolf couldn’t die to serial killer

lean osprey
#

my favorite thing that I really miss about MM that can't be replicated in Wolvesville was the Interrogator codes. basically the interogator would say who they're checking, then send a specific message in the daytime chat to tell the Kamikaze that the checked player is an important role and to blow them up. it was really fun making / trying to spot codes

sweet pier
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Wait

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That sounds familiar

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Kamikaze blew up the target and themself right

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?

lean osprey
#

the "first letter code" was one of the most commonly used, where the interrogator's first message would start with the same letter as the role of the target they checked

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that way if the interrogator died that same day only the mafia would know the target's role without the interrogator having to declare "I checked deputy!!" where everyone could see it because then the deputy would be able to claim

sweet pier
#

I mean, good coordination with sorcerer in Wolvesville they can kinda do the same thing

lean osprey
#

wolves won't even tell the sorc who they're killing most the time

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I highly doubt they'd be smart enough to implement a code to know roles by telling sorc to check a certain person 😭

sweet pier
#

The things you could do with sorcerer are there… people would just rather complain, call it bad, and flee. Instead of actually try to work with it

lean osprey
#

yeah ):

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it's SUCH a fucking good role tho

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when played right and with the right team it's extremely powerful

sweet pier
#

Don’t forget most people just fake aura and get mad they get caught

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Like.. that’s the most meta sorcerer play you can do man

sweet pier
# lean osprey yeah ):

Also don’t forget, in the off chance you check a player wolves are killing cause they refuse to tell you who they’re voting they will also proceed to blame you and call you useless

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Even though you can’t really see who they’re killing

lean osprey
# sweet pier Kamikaze blew up the target and themself right

yes!! only mafia role that can't use ability during the night, and only one who could use it during the day in MM. whenever Kami blew doc or Gravedigger everyone would start scrambling to try and find the blow code. Interrogator was by far my favorite role, alongside Doctor. When I played Interro, I had basically undetectable codes. So undetectable that the Kami didn't even pay attention and notice half the time 🤦 village never once was able to figure out it was me by the code tho

lean osprey
#

"sorc give info"

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meanwhile those same wolves won't tell me who they're killing so I constantly endup checking the kill

sweet pier
lean osprey
#

oh another thing that frusterates me, is that if sorcerer doesn't have useful information (such as checking lm or fc or info d1 for example, or ritu after they've clearly spelled seer), then a LOT of sorcerers have the bad habit of just using their spells on the first two people they check, and it usually ends up not being helpful (like fc) or something like aura. when I play and find stuff like that I get yelled at for not using ability despite not having anything good to share and preferring to save it for something more useful

sweet pier
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Idk who’s idea it was to put all NB roles together in invest info

lean osprey
#

oh a lot of wolves make it very clear on who they are without realizing it as well and no one usually pays attention to it. it's by their voting patterns. if a wolf is caught first thing, the later in order that a player votes, the more likely it is that they're also wolf. the players voting AFTER the minimum votes to lynch requirement is met especially. easiest way to find more evils, just see who votes last

sweet pier
#

It’s also almost the go to that when a ww is called evil they’ll use HEADHUNTER as a defence

lean osprey
#

another trick I like using is in a random vote if you are voting someone INNOCENT, including confirmed infos and such, is wolves love jumping on those players to out votes. they don't USUALLY (but some will) be the first to vote because that'll make them a sus target, but the second, third, and fourth votes are often evil

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it's more fun when you pair the two tricks together and pay attention to who is voting who fast, and compare that to how fast they vote out evils

sweet pier
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Then you shoot them or water them and they get mad insisting it’s random

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😭

lean osprey
#

and a lot of villagers are blind sheep and follow whatever so it's not foolproof, but usually based on votes and speaking patterns I can usualy figure out who's bad

sweet pier
#

“I’m good” alanok

lean osprey
#

basically if anyone ever says "fool/hh in game" whenever someone is accused of being ww/not village, the person saying "fool/hh in game" is a werewolf trying to deflect. VERY SPECIFICALLY werewolf, as solo killers don't tend to do this. Random voters also tend to do this a lot, but not nearly as much as wolves so be careful when voting/shooting them still

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or even if they just say it for no apparent reason

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or like if village starts voting someone and someone says that, usually that person is werewolf - because they know too much but are trying to hide that fact

sweet pier
#

I also really hate the meta of like

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X role is ww claim

waxen pawn
#

Evil Cupid should be an advanced serial killer or Corruptor.

If he were an advanced Cupid, he wouldn't work as a party role, since they don't win as a team. The idea is for two paired players to die without their knowledge. It would be funny if the Seer accused a wolf, and when they were lynched, both died because they were paired.

On the other hand, I think an advanced Cupid role would suit the Admirer well. I understand that the fool and Headhunter roles are basic, and their advanced roles are to prevent the village from voting or killing randomly.

sweet pier
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Or Y role is rk claim

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Like

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Wolves and solos aren’t on a script

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Each player may try to fake smth different

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Yet your using only that to say someone’s evil

lean osprey
sweet pier
#

I also hate that Wolvesville players ignore social queues

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I saw a player get shot by the same vigilante they defended

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Like bro what??

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Why is a ww even gonna defend a vigilante

lean osprey
# sweet pier Each player may try to fake smth different

yeah I usually default to claiming roles when I'm ww that the other wolves benefit significantly from knowing who they are, and even more if we can get them killed but it still benefits us to know who they are, that the playing cc'ing wouldn't would it together that I'm baiting for a reason

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for example - beast hunter is my typical late game claim

sweet pier
#

I also typically hate claiming first

lean osprey
#

FC is my typical pre - shadow being used ww claim so we know who to kill to vote off seer

sweet pier
#

Cause for some reason people are hardwired to always believe the cc

#

Over the first person to say it

lean osprey
#

RIGHT?!

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I use that knowledge to cc roles I want dead as ww a LOT

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like bh. I cc bj claims a lot esp late game

sweet pier
#

It’s like. Do these people even know that the person who says it first has the same chance to be lying as the person who ccs?

sweet pier
#

Or better yet

lean osprey
#

I'd say with people in MOST games usually the cc is more likely to be believable because evils don't usually know how to cc

sweet pier
#

Eh tho the person with the claim over anyone without one

lean osprey
#

but they usually overlook that the cc can still be lying

waxen pawn
lean osprey
#

the only time the cc isn't believed is in hh games with hh alive which I think is stupid

sweet pier
lean osprey
# waxen pawn Or the typical thing, where they blame the jailer for shooting someone in the ja...

dude yes I got blamed for shooting someone as jailer who seemed sus to me d1. so evils LOVE stalling with their claims in jail to think of something. if their first message is not their role, then they're almost guarunteed to be evil, at least when asked for a role. So I'll ask "role?" and if their first message isn't a role then I usually shoot them or push on them the next day depending on how fast the claim comes.

waxen pawn
# sweet pier “Report report report” 😭

Once, I was almost reported en masse when two players were accused by another player who was a detective and another who was a hare. I politely asked about their roleplay, but they didn't say anything, and the two bullets I fired at them were from villagers. All the players turned on me.

lean osprey
#

So I jailed an unclaimed person d1 (they were cupid) who I thought was sus, and right as Night 2 started I asked "Role?". Their first message after that was "Hi". and because "Hi" is not a role I shot them right after. They were cupid and everyone got mad at me and I pointed out "Hi is not a role" and they literally tried to rose bribe the lobby into spam reporting me -.-

sweet pier
#

Like if you wanna report someone do it but we do not need to hear it every 5 seconds

lean osprey
#

YES OMG

#

I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SPAM REPORT

waxen pawn
waxen pawn
#

Sometimes the toxicity of the community is slightly noticeable

lean osprey
# waxen pawn Once, I was almost reported en masse when two players were accused by another pl...

there was this game (current setup), with both aura and seer. aura was killed first night. This player, 14, claimed seer and said 4 was ww, but refused to say which one even when asked. I was Vigilante, so I wanted to know if they were guardian so I could shoot accordingly. Seer still refused to say and just repeated they were ww. 4 got mad at 14 and accused 14 of being wolf seer throwing because they were both wolves. There was also no other seer claim btw, but there were people offline. I warned the seer "if you don't tell me which wolf 4 is then I'm shooting you" - and they just repeated the info so I shot them because for seer it just didn't seem believable. And of course they ended up being seer and everyone got mad at me. Didnt regret it tho, I warned them and they still didn't. and they outted FC for no reason, so they WERE fully capable of saying which role their checks were, but only fucking did it for village members 🤦 they checked another wolf too and didn't say which role that one was either

lean osprey
sweet pier
waxen pawn
lean osprey
#

and yes, I do know that a lot of my gameplay and tactics are a bit questionable, but they have a high accuracy if village simply cooperates. a lot of my plays are controversial on if they're "throwing" or being smart/strategic or not

sweet pier
#

I’ve faked red lady as seer in a sandbox game

lean osprey
#

that... I'm pretty sure is throwing

#

I faked seer as flower child once, but that was to try and save my lover who was checked first night. It did not work

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the others players understood tho XD and my lover appreciated it

sweet pier
#

There’s no rule that states villagers are not allowed to hide in order to

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For example

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Not be nightmared

lean osprey
#

OH WAIT

#

OMFG I'M STUPID I READ THAT WRONG 😭

lean osprey
torpid sparrow
lean osprey
#

yeah lol XD

sweet pier
sweet pier
silent crystal
sweet pier
#

Mid not yeah

#

If not*

silent crystal
sweet pier
#

“Love eyes fuck”

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😭?

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Idk if that’s a great name

#

Kekw

silent crystal
#

Ignore that

sweet pier
#

😭🤣