#speculations
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I'm going to sell my right kidney (jk)
Please re release it moderators
le alch is fr so good
now i learn my abc 🗣️ 🔥
it is up to the dev, if they will release it again or not
Please re release it devs 🙏
The ping got me excited we had bp leaks
omg i didnt realize bundles are bought w gems not money i almost have enough gems
If prayer releases, ig it will be priest advanced role?
Role trees are based on gameplay not lore 
What role tree will it belong to then
Maybe sheriff? Others might have better theories
Damn, I can't use my memes this time
Maybe cursed?
Nvm it already has too many advanced roles
Cursed isn't an info role
Prayer stays villager
AAAAA LOVE THIS BUNDLE KEM
Maybe seer?
U late
It's a sub role imo
Oki I will try to be faster
Explain bg and seer app then XD
Eeeh- I'm not a genius 
Prayer is prob aura advanced then
More like a Witch advanced
Thought witch or aura, but witch isnt info role
Predict someone's aura death-> gain ability based on the aura
Kill, protect or reveal, seem like Witch advanced
Too weak, Witch would be the best replacement ngl
now we know that alchemist kills with.. water?
H2SO4, HCl
wheres the hcl
there's no HCl shown
you can... technically let H2SO4 (concentrated) react with H2O, causing a highly exothermic reaction
perhaps it's H2O2 and the bottle overlays
youre giving them seperately though
in that case.... drown the victim in water
Or just vinegar with flour in a small container
shake it
then throw it somewhere :)
if
were cpled to 
(it's sourdough starter right?)
lmao
Looks like therr is a new bundle, but i'm sure that alchimist and preacher didn't get ANOTHER role icon rightn
for the win
for the win
omg what :O
Oh!
Is the bp icon or another bundle icon?
if i had to guesse, probably role card offer
Ahhh yes that would make aincr
Since*
Omg
Sense*
WOOOOW THE GIRL SO COOL
well since SS got leaked, no one care add or change their prédictions now
watch cherry come to compain yet again 
tbh i thought we were going to have aura not ss rip 😂
@tardy agate
WOOOOOW SUCH GOOD WORK 🥹 🤩
ikrrr i love it too 
I think it's gonna be a gem skin 
no idea
there were so many good submissions
but i hope it makes it into the game
I will be so disappointed if it doesn't get into the game
and this time there were so many good subs fr
SPIRIT SEER AGAIN, AHHHHHHHH
hmmm
Offer ofc
Phew
🤣
No hate, the icon is good
BEST OFFER
But i already have egyptian ss
that one is good too
still have it equiped
lmao
yeah ig it's bp not offer
I imagined the color palette to be purple and dark blue but in no case red
😂
I looove red, looks pretty nice
it is
I'll say nothing 
Do you have authorization to reveal BP42 stuff?

I OVERSAW ALICEEEE 😍
btw submissions that didn’t make it in the bp can be posted in #design-vote ?
Do you know votes results by the way? (I do)
hopeee
samee 🥹
None of them, I'm just a voter
No 
U KNOW THE RESULTS?
I have links what should I say 
lol I was so bussy voting for it and ooking or y fav 
Love the icon Kem

I'm hoping for BP43-Candy, you?
found some great references for that theme i hope i’ll be able to submit more than one submissions 
Hmmm sounds nice
My current sketch progress
besssst colors
Me and also shellz are working on background compositions so we stop being nubs @cerulean geode 
can we know what are the color used for icons please 👀 just the color like you did for halloween
me waiting for my eyes to focus
why i thought this is old icon
its just from valentine this year wow
feels like old icon
or im old
Do you know anything about additional avatar slots?
they are costly
Gems?

1000 a slot? Oh gad
maybe more idk yet but ik they increase over 500
I was expecting them to restart at 25 tbh
because stacking at 250 felt already a lot
Do you think it will come next update?
Most likely since it was in recent voting posted by Lisa
Is it my problem but I cannot find the loading screen of academic bundle
You only know 2 of them 
3 actually

Impossible
One of them better be glyczo 😔🙏
Isn't it great 

Hold up, why did they whitewash my queen analyst?
not the first time
btw if SS is for real a bp icon, there is only one player who guessed it lmao
mine isn’t tho??
Didn't Kem say it's an offer
Or it was smth else
^
because for me, gothic bp = aura icon not ss
perfect
Aura with a web in the eye?
for web i think it'll be 
a black CORR with web or spider on it
idk
Spider corr>
it would be awesome
Tbh I think that they should add an option so that everyone can decide the skintone for all of their icons
Nah keep my queen black
I just think that it adds more inclusivity for everyone
For example doc, sheriff, gl, gambler, det (and more ofc)
Having dark skinned options too and that u can decide what skin tone to equip in role icons
It’s a non-issue but it’d be a nice thing
I don't see the problem with changing the skin tone from the base icon, the point of icons is to literally change how the role looks
They'd have to do all skin tones then, which I don't think they'd do, because of how many icons each role has
One of the best bundles recently
True but I don’t think that it’s that hard to do
Tru tru
Idk why kem became obsessed with preacher suddenly
preacher is just different kinds of books atp
Easy role to make icons for, like med and bomber, which are literally just circles so he could do anything with them
Omg i was thinking this when looking at the convo
Fr tho. It’s kinda funny how every og black icon has had at least one attempt at whitewashing (maybe except butcher, can’t remember) and only doc who’s og white has been mixing race.
Well not morti, he got greenwashed instead
if they still have all old icons previously before changed, i think it'd be pretty easy to just give everyone the option of the old icons that have been changed as custom role icons, i think that would be a good addition, cuz i think some people like older icons before change. for example I'm still mad that the bandit vampire icon is blue still after being changed lol.. i prefer the red, and btw bandit has a red haired different icon so i think it's ridiculous that the vampire one is blue still lol, cuz very many people were not happy about that, but anyway... my point being, i think them adding old icons would be easy, rather than what they said
cuz the icons already made
Lmao. I think they tried to whitewash first then decided to add an extra green sprinkle
OMGGGG PURPLE BALDIEEEE 🥵 🥵 🥵
OMG
Actually, there’s no such thing as 'whitewashing' here.
We’ve created many role skins with a wide range of skin tones from light to dark, and even red, blue, green, purple, as well as robots, undead, animals, and more.
For example, we have a light-skinned bodyguard, and we can also have a dark-skinned bodyguard.
Why should we be restricted to just one skin tone from the original, and label the rest as 'xxx-washing'?
As one of the designers working on these, I don’t feel comfortable with that kind of comment, so please be thoughtful when bringing up topics like this.
They gave me shield + sword
Nice
But it was zb game and I kill fool + zb + stub life
And only forger and me lasted
But forger was zb
And bit me
LMAO
Only forger and me survived game alive 💀
Fool had anger issues
lmao
Best game I've ever had after my paci game
It’s just noticeable that when the og icon is not white, there’s no issue turning them white for a special icon, but the reverse rarely happens. Where’s black det, forger, sheriff, gl, avg, etc? I’m not saying you HAVE to include those, but since it was decided that sometimes coloured icons can be white instead it seems weird the reverse is almost absent from og white icons. It’s not equal opportunities.
We did have
Doctor, det, body guard, toughguy..
And i never seen any complaint about light to dark
your mind is quite creative coming up with a non existent problem
if you dont like the ‘whitewashed’ icon then use the one that isnt. Its not like the majority of that role’s icon was ‘whitewashed’.
and like kem said there are white role icons that is darker than base but no one complains either
This is a personal issue. Rude to say I’m making an issue out of nothing. I’m allowed to call out inconsistencies, not for you to comment on. Get outta here with your excuses
I’m not even the only one saying something
This is random, but you made the academic bundle right? I really like it!!
I don’t remember det being black ever. Bg just looks tan tbh.
To be honest, I don’t think that it’s an issue at all. The only thing is that it’d be nice if they could give you the option to change your skin tone for your own role icon for inclusivity, but it’s not that much of a problem
Can ya'll see the new academic bundle yet?
Yeah! It crashed once, I already have the outfit equipped myself
I cant see it myself
Its not there for me
Oh huh that’s odd
It should have an academic bear as it’s icon
Maybe try refreshing?
I’d try reopening the app once
When a friend tried to gift it to me it said that i already have it
Huh? Odd. Have you checked your inventory and then recently unlocked
Ye its not in my inventory
Weeeird, well idk then. Might be better to ask in a diff channel then
Alrightt
I hope that the issue will be fixed soon
Thanks, made by SK
Kinda weird that people took my comment seriously while it's supposed to be satire XD
Tbh i don't care about "whitewash" or anything, kem is always cooking
I still prefer for my queen to stay black
It might’ve just been a misunderstanding, no need to dwell on it 
@uneven osprey not a secret anymore 
I FORGOT TO VOTE FOR THIS BP😭😭
Leaks 🙏
I'm not hyped for this BP anymore anyway
I'm not a fan of the theme tbh, but anyway, new bp is new bp
Rip
Still 5th, I have no idea why the best is last
OMGG YES THE PURPLE ONE
#design-vote message
ngl this is fire
AYEEEE NIGHTY SLAYYYYYYYYYYYY

yay congrats @uneven osprey !

@uneven osprey congrats
Another day Nighty carrying the battle pass
Congrats omg 🙀❤️🥳
I luv ur outfit :> I %90 reach to tier 20 of each bp then don't really tier up but this time Ill try to get that outfit
Zyn
Yup?
Do you have this outfit from this bp?
Do you want it?
I might help you to get fit
How
Come to DM 👀
Sus

👉👈
Its the 2nd one I get from someone else
😃

Thanks to name I create myself as Nighty beloved fan 😇👌
😭 I cross my fingers for quests
I really want :3 some quest skin from nighty

I miss when role icons were revealed first
I note this as yes ^_^ and hope for all quests be in
I hope we won't receive The music battle pass incident
Sssplendid, Goth is the best theme of battle pass ever and forever
Wait what was music bp incident?
GLYCO PLS TELL ME U GOT IN 😔 🙏 🙏
Similar on bundle style and have less different music styles in
Naur
Modern/Rock/Concert bla bla
I'm just here to worship Nighty
Real
Wym naur 
🛐
XD
Glyco u got scammed...
Idk no contacts 🥃
How am i supposeed to go to sleep when such thefts are happening
😔
Tyy
The skins were revealed VERY SLOWLY, and the role icons were showed 5 days later, and it the end, it was mid af
Mid = meh ≠ bad
Hmm
Well ther was gothic bp votes incident
I feel so bad for underrating goth theme and overrating music theme
Well i hope the background will be like dark angels collection
Glycowoz?
NO Glycowoz!?
Oh wait i meant dark kingdom
Oh yeah, the background will be PEAK i know it
OwO
Me with glazing y2k theme
With such warden and anarchist icon will be perfection for meeeee
The potential fo the theme was so good
😃 music bp were in top 5 for 6 BP vote and always another topoc steal it
SHUSH, Y2K BATTLE PASS WAS THE BEST AHHHHH
XD
Nahhhh
Y2K... was not best
I'll defend y2k until my last breath
Uhm
Not THE best, but really great

Y2k as a theme was good one but the skins innit were not my cup of tea
Skins were meh i agree
I dont wanna open my mouth with icons
Nah wtf
But role icons were 🔥
same reaction

The theme is fashion outfit and we get black/white icons 💀
Idk how we can make sense from this
idc they were cool
Bcs it's y2k
You need to see community icons fr
And violonist
They were much cooler
Where can i see them?
Also my prediction: ||regarding the quests, i predict that regarding the quests prediction||
I dont hate but I really want to see fashion style icons
That wov being very lazy sometimes
Street fashion / Techwear might fit
I used to love him now i think the whole tree should be deleted

Tbh i play bomber only to flex with the cat café icon :3
Siren and alch are fun whaaat
I meant fc tree
They should make motorcycle themed icons atp
Ooohhh. I thought that u meant arsonist tree cuz somebody kentioned bomber
Witness and admire my treasure
The alchemist icons are always so amazing
I only got these
I like the cosmo bomber tho
Med and bomber got more icons in 2 months than shaman his entire life PLS REALISE THAT
LMAO true
Lol
Also scribe got like what? 3 new icons?
Shaman deserves icons and a huge buff
Scribe is kinda new
Shaman is og
I already have like 3 icons for it tho😭
Sorcerer too, my boy is here since beta
He got 2 other icons
Blind and sorc deserve more icons
Nocway
Currently the most are med and bomber
Dam kem, you did great
Je don't accept ta petite insolence my ami
:<
DAYM THE SPIRIT SEHER OFFER
Still expensive
@obtuse folio it's officially an offer
That’s so much😭
400THB one week food supply 💀
Why isn't it gem offer like dark cupid
Male look slick
Thanks vietnamese ice cream giy for this feast that is too expensive for my bum
Dark cupid already ran i dont think that it’s coming again this month
👁️ o👁️
Yaaa
Female's background will be perfection if there's big eye above it
A new one to the batch 👀
This is SO cool
Me too girly
is it worth it to buy gold from bp shop?
I personally always buy gold very first
Cheap
And easy icon
And usefull for future bp/roses
yeah me too
Same
That way you earn from BP more than you paid for
Can you share the website please? :0
1240 - 1150 coins from BP + 1440 coins from BP shop = 1350 profit
😭
Ferryman is replacing med OH HELL NAHHH
Where can I find it? I see some people already have it.
Wait what 💀 fr?
you can purchase this on web, it's a monthly subscription that gives you the outfit + all the other perks shown there
those are may's cosmetics though
Can I get purple or choose a frame? I saw some people already have it. Thx
they probably got the code for it, that stuff isn't available to everyone yet
He is Thai but he won't tell me how he got it. He said it will arrive next month. Thank you. I want it now.
You can't get it now
Why did he get it before anyone else? Special privilege, I really want it too. Thanks, friend.
didn't buy it, so I'm not too sure on how it works
You can't get it now
Thx Bro ♥️
It'll become available in around 9 days so dw
I wonder why he got it before the others.
become friend with powerful people and you may get it too
jk
I really want to be one too.
yessss
This is how I felt when my friend designer gifted me an outfit
😭
It’s a clan quest but still
Other Milk outfit will be Darkness
Ask jeanne 🤭
Why would Jeanne knows about Milk
We made a bet, she also thinks the other is darkness
I said it before her
I bet on dark horse though
Dark horse isn't milk's?
What’s dark horse my phone doesnt like me when im trying to look at the bp icons on phone
Same feeling
Wont let me zoom out and it’s all pixel-y on my phone💔
Danish?
This one
same
Maybe cuz it's cute and I like cute aesthetics more
(and shes on dark horse)
we made a bet with shellz, im betting on this one
we do think that lovers note gonna be in too tho
Or both?
this ☝️
||it has been announced, so yes||
we both think that lovers note gonna be in, so we only have one place free to bet, and we put our bets on those two
Now i think I'm gonna lose 🙀
and im gonna win my rosessss 😼
If I have to choose between darkness and dark horse, I would bet on darkness
🙀🙀
Same
( but this is just my personal preference, although I saw many people voted or complimented dark horse )
I bet on Lullas Nighty and Shellz
yes right ?? ||shes just delulu||
||ily tho shellz||
Then for quest 2 nighty, 1 lulla, 1 nagi, 3 sk and 1 milk
And additional milk shop offer
if you lose gimme 5 roses 😺
Nah
bruh
i can’t make bets srry

i’m cooked
Also based of ur betting request i assume my bp predictions are wrong
And ur decline in quest bet i assume im right
i never said anything bout that

i just need roses
i assume
and a bet is fun
But yk the results
Oh shellz made in but not sure which?
never said that
My bet is on the pink one☝️
read our messages above
Wait lemme recheck ill join
nuh huh already closed 😾
4 milk skins this season 🙀
We don't know the winners (maybe we do) but we making bets to earn fast roses.
Satff said it (they didnt said anything everything is just for joke purposes)
i do not want to hear this drama yet again 🙏
exactly
she said everything
☝️
we’re just having fun
i just hope we can get a bp without any drama
@cerulean geode wanna up it to 30 roses 🤣
Oh so milks black one made in 
Quite rare thing to see
how is that your conclusion 😭
Lowkey i think cartoon bp had least drama
I feel like I already lost, need to arrange roses
we are making BETS guys not revealing anything
AHAHAHHAAH
But if yk what made in and need roses
nah let’s keep it to 15 then
Okie
no this one we don’t know thats why we bet
(Dont mind me im just gaslighting myself)
both shellz and i bet on one
OHHH
thats it
Hm
i can see that 😭
Id like to bet
We were both so sure about lover's note though
But idk the orher two
YES RIGHT
Mind sharing so i could bet too

we won gurl
nuh huh no way we made promises
Should we give each other 100 roses then
shall we
Just bet on the next milk skin for 15 roses with us, which one you think?
Eith like praying hands
Oh milk one
Wait lemme recheck what she submited
darkness and dark horse already taken tho
you can bet on the others 2
We should but I'm too broke lol
ahahaha then i don’t wanna get you ruined
Thanks 🙀
Royal One is giving the bp vibes
then you’re putting your bet on this one?
Wait i can choose two?
(i totally agree i hesitated to go on this one)
Ok so whoever wins the bet will get 15 roses from all losers 🙀
Oh wait no im slow
Ye Royal One is my bet
Only choose one for this bet
alright
shellz - dark horse
jeanne - darkness
jaxob - royal
Yesss
Aight
remember this
Is it illegal though to bet 🙀
naaaaaah

Alright!
This is us
👻
We need one more gambler to pick last one
im gonna be having a good night thinking abt my incoming 30 roses
(just kidding lol)
This was my exact thought

This bp will be exiting
I couldn't bet with zirconium cuz she also thinks the next one is darkhorse lol
I hope no drama though 🥹
it will be alr ^^ the theme just cant have a bad ending
im your number 1 bet person anyway
who made dark horse btw
shellz
Do you think we'll have new designers again?
i think glyc(forgot name) maybe
maybe in quests ?? i hope so. @worldly sky deserves
What about yourself 🙀
me :‘> how
this
I hope 2 or 3 get in as quests atleast bp is good too
im sad cuz many of them will get elimated but also exited cuz those quest/bp would be the best out of the best :>
New designers always bring a uniqueness to the game, I loved nova's fit last bp
true :> its like fryed ice cream
Is it a hidden reference, I think I saw a submission with ice cream in a vote 🙀
? (That wasnt me i tho i guess ^^)
i love ice cream tho
its delicious, i think i found my passion in it
This one, do you know who made this, my friends keep asking me
oh ye thats mine 😄
-# im addicted to ice cream
Omg it's cool
Its crazy 😭
ty tho :>

You arrived so late
Keep in mind u can resubmit stuff
Fr
Is there any info about possible new roles getting added or more role changes??
These two became into…. (Gimme a moment to find and send)
Sadly not much changes in male but i had no ideas
I think he said he didnt make it
They're all so pretty and you improved so fast
So either we got robbed or glyco lighting gas on us
Aww thank you 🥲🫂
??? Anyone?
Since im on school break this week i shall cook anither submission perhaps
But i firstly need to cook up the art collab
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LOOK FOR INSPOS ON PINTERSET NOW ITS FULL OF GOTHIC STUFF 😭
Does somebody have any info on new role or role changes?
Nope
is this before and after??
Hey, I've deleted your post, because it's containing a fast and flashy gif. (It could trigger epilepsy)
Please make sure you don't send gifs like this in the future. 
Goooo
Do you need the pic with highest resolution?

i feel like most of these bp vote outfits should come to the game anyway, 2 of the outfits shown so far weren't ones i chose, as much as i love nighty and milk's outfit designs, i mean i do like them too. but like i feel most these outfits deserve to come to the game, two of my favorites like flayed the sun and Emerald prison i hope comes, i love many others too. i feel that they shouldn't scrap them. but instead give them to us one way or another... (not being real money ofc.. i poor af)
and also unrelated to the bp vote, but still related to the bp, i hope witch gets a gothic role icon in the bp still. i want to make sure witch finally gets a beautiful gothic icon.. cuz i feel it needs one imo lol, it'd make perfect sense.
i mean nova didn’t have a skin in the game before but still made it to the bp (cartoon) soo 
Tbh, the player base prefers style of milk and nighty. That’s why they always come out on top. It’s on the player base apparently
I don’t think they don’t care about non famous designers.
It’s just that the style of milk and nighty appeal better to them…
People should vote who they prefer. I don’t get this idea of supporting small designers.
It’s not about supporting designers. It’s about voting the outfit you like whether is famous or non famous designers
YAAAAY ALICE #item-previews message
yup the first time since....
3 years perhaps?
but tbh milk did such a good job this season
I checked and indeed nearly 3 years that we didn't get a new designer in the bp
Isn't that insane?
17 SEASONS that we didn't got a new designer beside nova
gambling omg
me also a good person no gambling 🙀
Lullaby and nova 👀
Lullaby got an outfit in killer bp, right? Well they had two quest outfits in game already before that but it's still considered a "new designer", if I'm not wrong.
I also think most of the time the "big designers" like milk, nighty, ... get in bp because they're there since a longer time, means the voters are more familiar with their outfits/style and also prefer these over "new designers" with an different, unfamiliar style to the voters.
Hello, lets not spread any misinformation shall we? And please don't post any spam messages that flood the chat. Thanks for understanding
it's not misinformation, it's just miscalculation
Misinformation would be for example saying that you don't delete messages that you hate
sorry i'm mad bc i'm too exited for the role icons
oopsie
That time when we replaced i cant believe its not butter with real butter
what?
True, but I think only a few ppl votes for Designer promotion, I think mainly they don’t even know who Drew’s what, I think it’s just the artstyle that matters :>
Which u choosed?
We too nub for BP
See it the other way round, the others are too pro ^^
Nah nah it's something we tell ourselves a lot

Well ones goal is become too pro tho right?
Even Shellz believe she's too nub
any leaks?
Leak what 
I cant believe its not butter
icons outfits, anything
No clue :>
They r leakin- bp and new quests mightbe only #item-previews
Inoffiziell leaks ?
pls give me shaman ww icon

I just wanna know which role icons we got
ig we well know when bp release
I NEED TO KNOW NOWW
I need to see that I‘ve won
im gonna laugh so hard if you end up last 
youre so mean
says the one who puts rose bounty on my head
Mudtoei's impact ikr

OMG
WITCH IS ONE??
@obtuse folio DID I CHOSE WITCH?
i didn't say anything about icon, just cute meow 
HMMM
meow meow back! :3
I'm gonna manifesting Nagini, Lullaby and nova getting in
no
I don't remember people putting witch much
if i think about it, last icons that were related to cats were doc, gl, det and bb (from meow coffee) or it could be kitten ww, if they are related to this gif
Zombieow 
how do you know?
You radiate with positive energy
It's me, hi!
Zombie + Meow? Is this a leak that Kitten wolf is getting a zombie custom icon??? 😱 😱 😱
brainnn
My favorite game (in the past)

Plants vs zombie so that mean
will get an icon too
100%
Since it's brainnn with 3 ns means something with double letters so we'll prob also get gg or mm icon
O
Speculations now feels like a gambling site with all the bets on what's going to be in the pass 
Wowowosowowoowiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiw
useless
never will be seen
where can i get more background? In calendars?
my wallet is crying again....
I miss this game on a daily basis
Omg ikr
miauw
I voted what outfits I prefer. I think it's not fair that people keep voting for only outfits from them, it feels kinda rigged, who is voting just for them each time? Idk but I feel like it's not fair. I don't feel like the enough of community is voting if only those 2 keep winning, as much as I like their designs, I think other designers deserve it too, and it's not that I'm voting based on people, because it's not. I'm voting based on designs. I just think others should come too. As I prefer other designs than the supposed "most popular", no offense to anyone, I just don't think this sounds fair, I'm starting to believe that these are rigged or something, there's no way everyone just keeps voting the same 2 creators each bp right..? I refuse to believe that, I feel like not enough people are voting or something. There's no way.
Welcome to the rabbit hole
But then again there’s still 3 outfits we still get to see
So who knows
They voted for the outfits they liked, to be honest. That’s just a fact. Most of the voters in the community I know don’t even know who Nighty, Milk, Lighze, SK, or any of the designers are, they simply don’t care
I’m happy with the outfits thus far. Didnt vote them though as there were too many great ones
It seems like you're basing that on a few Discord comments, mostly from fans of certain designers. But they don’t really speak for the whole community 
I think these designers have adopted a specific style which pleases majority of voters. While I’m not a fan of that and even doubted that wov was rigging it at some point, I’ve come to the conclusion that user base seems to prefer a specific style.
Remember designers’ names are not published when voting, so I guess people just pick what they want and it turns out to be those designers.
Same as role draft before the update. Never understood why it kept winning. But somehow that’s what people prefer.
To add that designers names are not published with their outfits. So even let’s say you wanted to favour someone, you wouldn’t know…
Designer must submit to voters preferences, sadly.
But on the other hand, many of the outfits that didn’t win end up as quests.
I do agree with what’s being said here. The current system does seem to favour one specific style, especially since designers can submit multiple entries. If a majority prefers a particular style, they end up voting across several slots for the same designer, which makes it tough for others to stand a chance, even if there’s a sizable group wanting something different.
I’m not trying to spark another debate. I’ve raised this before and I know it’s a tricky thing to change. Just wanted to add my voice to say it’s not really a fair representation of the wider voting preferences, and I get the frustration.
Agree 
Also, I think experienced designers know what are the preferences of voters. That’s why they have an edge.
If let’s say I’m a new designer rn, I wouldn’t know what kind to style to design so that I adhere to voters’ preferences.
So it’s no surprise, the people who understand majority preferences end up winning
I like the current bp though. It has Nighty, milk and nova. All of them are great.
Btw, I’m not trying to take anybody’s side. I’m just saying how I think the situation is
I mean we're talking about a voting system here, which decides what designs get choosen. So it's just natural that the majority voters get predominance in what's favorable.
Yeps
You can call it what you want, but it is still misinformation 
That’s what I wanted to express
Nieche Design taste doesn't even stand a chance 
this ☝️ said everything
In the end it's not even the particular style or designer that gets the voters to vote their designs. It's more like the overall execution of the designs- like color, sub-theme and creativity. Long-term designer aren't guaranteed to get a spot in every bp.
WOV is a huge community. i get that you don’t like every outfit, but it’s only that a majority of ppl liked em better. that’s it. no rigged votes or anything, not fair or unfair. just maths. as said above, Nighty and Milk have unique styles that ppl tend to prefer (since they always come in bp). thats all. other designers do still get their chances, since they are put into votes. their chance will eventually come someday when their style improves and that ppl like it. hope it’s helpful
that’s it
Well there's multiple outfits I'd like to see more, and only 3 more spaces left that haven't been shown? Oh, plus the clan quest outfits ig..? I hope y'all don't scrap these other designs that didn't make it. Y'all should add them anyway imo, I'd say this is one of the more popular battlepass themes than most of the past ones. Don't scrap them please.. there's several outfits I really want to see. I want to see more, I really like ones like flayed the sun, emerald prison, and other outfits that I forgot the name of..
Last part is on spot!
Exactly. Plus even other designs get into the game as gem or gold outfits. So it’s not exactly a big deal
i feel you. i was asking the same questions when i started designing. « why couldn’t it be me? » « are the votes rigged? » « what’s wrong with the others ». but now i came to understand that we here who express ourselves are only a minority of players, and it can seem unfair if you see 10-15 ppl voting the same as you but not seeing it coming in game. but 80% of voters don’t express themselves or their choices here. as Kem said, they probably don’t even know about Nighty Milk Shellz or anything. they just vote for their preferences, and the 5 outfits that come into BP are only the result of this vote. the 5 that came on top. don’t misunderstand this
"when their style improves" implying they aren't good enough yet..? That feels a bit mean personally, I LIKE THEM.
for those which don’t make it to BP nor quests, #design-vote is here to show them support
Tbh it’s not about style improving. It’s about style adhering to majority’s preferences.
i do like each of them too, and im not talking personally. if they are not coming to bp, it’s that they were missing something that the 5 upvotes don’t. don’t misunderstand me, i do hope that very each designer will get at least one of their outfits in game, but it’s just that people (the majority that i was talking about) tend to prefer a style they’ve already seen, or idk, maybe the colours, the shape… that doesn’t mean in any way that the vote is rigged just bc the 2 same designers come again each season
idk if im well expressing myself here
not a pro with words
that’s it thank you
Every time you talk this is to criticate something, I don't know why you are talking about a public poll for BP skins lmao
Idk if I believe that the "majority" is all voting tbh lol
the majority of voters voted for the 5 that will come out this season. that’s it. nothing to add anymore
You're opinion is not the majority, it's democraty, welcome
Just curious. Why do you think that?
please read my messages. as i said, even if you or 15 ppl expressed themselves on their votes and that they were in common, that doesn’t mean that the whole community voted them too
You guys are hating that the same designers win, i'm hating bc the reveals are slow
lmao this
come on be patient brother
Same
I CAN'T BE PATIENT RAHHHHHH
ahahaha i feel you
Just wanted to add, I was one of the people who strongly believed that it was rigged.
They told me this.
And when the outfits got released, many of my friends actually liked it. So it convinced that it ain’t rigged…
May the next one be glyco's
Oh wait ur the girl i'm beefing with about milk designs XD
I remember a few bp’s back someone said stuff along those lines and it was kinda censored so idk if it was because there was some truth to it
please please please
I said this pretty recently. So not me
and ?
Wdym censored?
woah, what a debate
great 🤝
My post is in this link. If anyone wants explanation of why it’s not rigged.
Posts were deleted etc
Why we're arguing already atleast wait for all the bp skins to be revealed, maybe your favorites will be featured as bp skins or quests
Not mine then
at that time, devs explained that they couldn’t show votes for some reason, at that time i didn’t understand why but now i feel it would be weird if they did.
we just have to trust them now
and i do today
Just a discussion
explain this to everyone plz
I mean imagine you designed something and no one voted for it… that could stop people from designing again.
@eager sinew come here
exactly ! between some other reasons ig
The issues exist due to voters voting same things always, even if we try something unique, we don't get as much votes and then are forced to cater to the majority preferences, saying it as a designer.
I understand. Exactly what I said.
ohh, that explanation is cool, and understandable 
It's even more difficult to be a designer for such community, we are forced to kill out creativity just to win, I struggle to continue designing at this point.
Yeah my issue when outfits dont make it is never with the designers but with me clashing with the voter base
Like I said i’d like to see more adult skins but people prefer cutesy bunnies
Same
🥲🥲
As someone who who joined recently only because I heard you could see which outfits could be in the next bp and event vote, I've been sharing the links to the previews and vote doc (sorry, eng isn't my first language) to all my friends
I must say we've all voted which ones we liked the most, especially the outfits we could see ourselves using most of its items. Nobody in my group knows who the designers are. If anything, aside from this, we've taken the theme into account when voting, because it's true there are outfits more Halloween, Victorian or Steampunk themed for example, rather than Gothic; even if they're pretty
Keep designing, 
Exactly. Unless you’re some kind of crazy fan, you wouldn’t know who designed which outfits.
that’s exactly the spirit of this vote !
However I do wonder if any #outfit votes ever make it to the game
Geez I must admire that dedication
Even some with great ratios i havent seen
I mean if Lisa typoed that Milk outfit is someone else or something, I wouldn’t know
it’s very rare i think
i had the best ratio yet didn’t get in so 🥲
And tbh, I finished the bp pretty quick and people would always compliment the bp outfits
Blasphemy
I think there were a few…. But it’s probably less than 1%
I would get at least 2 compliments every game from current bp outfits
xD lmao thanks 😂
yeah it’s cool seeing people with current BP outfits
to vote BP outfits is the easiest way for people free to play to get pretty outfits, I think it's understandable for them to want outfits they would like to wear
It's not that we don't appreciate all the designs, there are many cool and creative outfits, but at the end of the day, you chose which one you yourself would wear 😔
I mean at this point, not really. Most people got it already
yes !
(sorry for the repetition, again, eng is not my first language qwuifewrufhqihu)
your eng is good darlin’
Not everyone wears it
Tysm 🫶
my friend loves the outfits of the previous bp
she's been wearing a dif one everyweek
i mean, i rarely wear bp outfits, yet that doesn’t mean i don’t like them
Well at the end of the day, a design for the pass is a product.
A design for the pass is technically an “object” and end product for the consumer(or in this case player-base) to enjoy and like. If you put it that way. Market research would show what the common folk like (which you can see through the votes)
It’s probably going to be hard for most people, not just designers, but sometimes we have to detach ourselves from the product. In this case it would be the design.
|| I’m just rambling tbh||
though it's true we're both quite new at the game
Haha same, these how I look when play.
I’m not into wearing what everyone else is wearing at the same time. I’d rather wait and use those items later, when they’re not so common anymore
ahahaha saaame i for myself tend to prefer mixing my own fits, so i pretty rarely wear a fit all built 🥲+ the same reason as you
the black void skin is awesome
yes
omgg, i loove
monster bundle sweetie
tyy
Give us your skinslot buffs
😳
Can you stop saying you are disappointed every battle pass?
oh nvm i didn't see all the messages
I missed the fun 
Freedom of speech? Also I love your outfits, I think yours should be more popular too.
It's not like I'm being hateful
One day you'll have to understand nobody control votes 
Rip me being crazy fan I guess
Me: justvread over 200+ msg :>
I-
Right?
Same
well if u say so it not controlled then :>
Well I can recognise pretty much all styles-
i want to learn that ^^
I doubt anyone would bother to volunteer to rig votes in their free time - for a game, let's be for real 
The community likes what the community likes.
Same
I only did not recognize Shellzs this time
Same, I think people that follow the designs by designers can recognize them
Although I did vote one of their
WANTED TO SAY THE SAME
EXACT THE SAME
btw because of WILD improvement
Want all tricks?
tell
It's all in face styles
Every designer has some quality they include in their designs which makes them stand out
And recognizable
Yes
hmmmm true- face and hair…
I recognize by mouth and background mostly, but there are some that are exceptions
Most recognizable:
- Nighty: Face and clothes
- Nagini: Mouth and hair
- Shellz: Face
- Milk: Promotional pic and face
- Lighze: Colours (skin tone/non human heads)
Rainy colours as well
I~~ dk i can only recogniez a few, like Lullaby by hair, nighty the eyes, yu the hair, Nova eys ~~ my message got exposed
„non human heads“ 
add lullaby on it ^^
I mean with SK nobody else makes non human-like avatars
I don't have a style, but i'd say hair 
Lullaby is one of the most detailed ones, lots of tiny details, clean realistic backgrounds
Nova has soft approach but bold, designs scream power but still have soft side in it iykwim
did u just said no style?
Having too many details is overloading, so that's a problem
truuu, i think lullaby always kinda have a „doll“ vibe :>
fusing lullaby only items can bring magic
Nighty does it better
I would say Nighty has more doll vibe than Lullaby
I always associate lullaby with swirls, like those giant lollipops 🍭
Lullaby hits my personal doll vibe :>
@olive prism remember when I told you this?
i associate lullaby with nightmare & dolls
Months ago xd
Eeeeh, when did I drew lollipop? How do you know I recently did 
same, dolls and bangs :>
Somehow hehe
Hahaha, it’s in everything you do. That’s how I usually recognise your style
i think its kinda the dynamic style in it




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