speculations

[solid abyss]

I said Im rrv bh and arso give up to try to win

Or

Claim doctor ww say I hate rrv prots and not try to countine

[mortal island]

for
for
for
for

[solid abyss]

If you not reveal you are gl , gl is very good for village material

[solid abyss]

worst you can lose cause no one try to turn you 💀

is 2nd fool for a fool game 😂

[finite nest]

Old , old and old were on another level

[olive prism]

How were old gl?

[empty tree]

||beta version butcher & 2nd nerf version of astro||

[empty tree]

they didnt get bounded

[solid abyss]

Insti good but problem when your cpl die its reveal from insti team if its hidden it would be better for the role

[olive prism]

Past tense bound is bound iirc

[finite nest]

Infinite protection no bounding reveal goes brrrrr

[mortal island]

The only way to counter is

That's not OP at all

Obviously a joke

[dapper walrus]

yes and no, bound is past tense of bind (if im not wrong and really hope im not missremebering)

[solid abyss]

I can agree woth flagger tbh since +2 for village each prot ( if you kill a none villager )

[finite nest]

Only og will remember when could only take 's role

[mortal island]

I remember it

[olive prism]

I do

[mortal island]

You can have 2 seers in a game

[finite nest]

Yeah, because you stayed seer even after the original one got revived

[olive prism]

Bind... True, I forgot that little one

[empty tree]

🫠

why are we learning eng

[mortal island]

The current ver is also OP in a different way

[solid abyss]

Its bot shown if its in night phase exclusive so if we count lynch its very op ( I can be blind sorry If Im blind )

[mortal island]

You turn into one info role, revert when they are revived, and turn again if another one dies, along with info log

It's mini conj

[solid abyss]

Nope

If a info revive and another dies in a sams time you need to wait 1 day to turn other info

[finite nest]

That is how i think of it

[pliant prism]

Nerf astro?

Nah

[mortal island]

Even with cooldown, it's still strong cause you don't have to protect info anymore. Just protect village killers and seer app

[olive prism]

What a revolutionary idea

[finite nest]

Nah astronomer is perfectly balanced

Especially as an rrv

[mortal island]

No

Put Astro in Jailer tree

[olive prism]

That's not what your name says

[pliant prism]

Also

Tg>>>

[mortal island]

Seer app >>>

[solid abyss]

If main prot its sucks to be for rrv its okay but not op imo

[olive prism]

Fool>>>

[finite nest]

That would make it more balanced.... Still no skill role

[pliant prism]

Yes

[buoyant patio]

Buff Astro, k imma flee now

[pliant prism]

BUFF ARSO????

[finite nest]

Forky>>>>>>>>>>>

[pliant prism]

Astro whatever

[mortal island]

YES

[pliant prism]

Masha i totally agree with u

[pliant prism]

No

[mortal island]

Yes

Arso needs buff

[pliant prism]

Nah

Arso perfect

[mortal island]

Can be more perfect

Now, Y2K or gem Arso outfit?

[finite nest]

Arso buff idea:
Now you can douse 5 players per night and can ignite even in the nights you doused.
If you die or you are the last player alive you win

[nocturne peak]

No one looking for vlt event leak?

[pliant prism]

Nop

[solid abyss]

Arso buff idea

Quick Burn ( New ability )

• Once in a game if you have more then 5 doused player ( alive ) you can burn 2 player in voting/discussion phase this will effect your burn ability disable for 1 night but you can still douse in that night

[nocturne peak]

Broken role

[solid abyss]

What the you guys think 😂

[dire plank]

I dont see this role as an advanced role that could fit a tree

it just doesnt fits any role tree

[solid abyss]

Its base

[mortal island]

Nah, just make arso's douse stay when player is revived

[finite nest]

I think it is ok, at least to bring them more in line with and

[dire plank]

too complicated to be base role

[finite nest]

We are not talking about

[solid abyss]

💀 damn

I try to give good buff while make it balanced aswell

[mortal island]

Killing any bombed player triggers other bombs. But you have to wait for the next night

Why is so bad

[finite nest]

Position dependency and rng

Late game you have less kills than most rk

[solid abyss]

trash but still love it

[mortal island]

More luck than skill role

ftw

[dapper walrus]

oh wait there is a new role leak ? i didn't saw it yesterday :<

[mortal island]

Prayer?

That's the name innit

Prayer, Shapeshifter, etc...

[dapper walrus]

its mechanic seem interesting

[mortal island]

How can I wait faster?

[solid abyss]

Sleep

[pliant prism]

What

[solid abyss]

Very effective way

[dapper walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-friends-funny-dog-slow-gif-13962148

[mortal island]

Hibernate

[buoyant patio]

There we go!

[dire plank]

yes

[velvet depot]

There will be 2025 valentine icons ?

[mortal island]

Does Lurker have an outfit yet?

[mortal island]

Yep, it's yearly

[velvet depot]

Any leaks about them ?

[mortal island]

Shrug

Idk either but I'm sure ppl here knows

[mortal island]

Reveal an unk role? Kill an evil role?

Stop buffing these villagers

[empty tree]

watch people complaining about it soon

[dire plank]

I already am

[mortal island]

Me, right here

[steady quiver]

Will this role be added to the game?

[dire plank]

we dont know yet

[steady quiver]

It has a very nice icon😊❤️

[dire plank]

this role just doesnt fit any role trees and its too complicated to be base role

[mortal island]

Hey, wait

tree exists

[dire plank]

too weak to be witch advanced

[solid abyss]

Its not a good role for some families

family game -> Auto Prot gain
family game -> Auto Kill gain
/ games you can know dead player aura by ability you gain
game -> Auto Rsveal gain
/ -> Auto Prot gain

[steady quiver]

Actually you are right, I asked just because I like icon

[dire plank]

this roles ability depends, on the other hand witch can both kill and protect someone. This role can only do one of this, not both.

• Needs to guess whos gonna die

even sheriff has more chance to guess who will die

[mortal island]

We got another Astro to concern ourselves with...

[dire plank]

Its way weaker astro

but its just doesnt fits any role trees and too complicated to be base role

[finite nest]

Agree

Make ot a advanced i guess

[finite nest]

(jk)

[dire plank]

nah bet its president advanced

[solid abyss]

Thats why this role bad imo

No need to skill

🦐

[finite nest]

I agree on those. But still not emough strong to be a witch advanced

[dire plank]

if that was the base, preacher would be the best role in game lol

[solid abyss]

I dont defend be advanced

[mortal island]

No skill needed role like a certain Witch advanced

[dire plank]

its way weaker version of witch

witch tree meant to be protect + kill

this role is guess + gain ability

[solid abyss]

Forger -> Guess the player who get attack to save

I try play forger like death saviour

[finite nest]

This role is protect OR kill Or Reveal

[dire plank]

forger op late game

[dire plank]

but OR

• needs to guess a kill at first to receive an ability

[solid abyss]

/lynch

[dire plank]

Its 1/15 chance to guess first night so

[dire plank]

lynch not included

they only can guess at night

just like preacher and sheriff

[solid abyss]

Its not say lynch exclude aswell 🤔

So I assume with lynch

[dire plank]

where

no

It doesnt needs to

bcz they guess during day time

same as sheriff and preachers desc

[solid abyss]

If only night kills its okay but I assume with lynchs

[dire plank]

no lynchs not included

[finite nest]

With lynch you are 90% guaranteed to get kill or reveal

[dire plank]

lynch not included

they only can guess at night

[solid abyss]

I think like with lynch so its bad

If only night kills its okay

Can be still op

[dire plank]

its not op

[mortal island]

"Witch kill (confirmed evil)"

[dire plank]

its too weak

[mortal island]

Free reveal/kill

[dire plank]

this role basically a forky first two nights

bcz its 1/15 chance for them to guess who dies n1

its only useful after day 3

and I dont think they can survive till that time

role looks strong on the paper bcz of long desc

but its actually too weak

weaker than bg tree, weaker than pri tree, weaker than Lm tree...

[waxen yoke]

rip cards, at last i got ma boy tg after sacrificing 8 purple cards and pull out 2 of my first legendaries 😭 ||+ icon for sww, jailer, gr n butch||

now time to save up cards for... 😴💜

[nocturne peak]

For 10 new one

And bday event

[pliant prism]

What

U make it sound like icons out

[olive prism]

Same, what?

[rotund river]

They are

[vivid quest]

Only old icons

[pliant prism]

Ur lying

Oh

Fr

[dire plank]

2023 and 2024s valentines icons out

[olive prism]

That's what I thought, valentine were the first role upgrade event thus we can't expect a third year of new seasonal role icons.

[dire plank]

wrong

[pliant prism]

WHOOGOO GL

[dire plank]

xmas was the first

and we got three xmas role upgrade events

[frail trellis]

rich in gold

[pliant prism]

Stalker😭

[frail trellis]

u sent the ss

nub

[pliant prism]

And somehow h here

U stalking me

😔😔

[olive prism]

I looked at announcement, oldest is valentine

[pliant prism]

Anyway

I cant upgrade any cards anymore

[dire plank]

no oldest is xmas

[pliant prism]

This all icons i can get

[olive prism]

Zyneak always here to contradict anyone

[vivid quest]

Yes, oldest is xmas

[dire plank]

I never lie

[olive prism]

I also thought xmas were the oldest but it doesn't appear in announcements

[dire plank]

xmas oldest

[olive prism]

Well your name is purple

[dire plank]

check change log then

[latent jewel]

I'm sure they'd had already announced the valentines upgrade event if this was all we got, there will be more

[vivid quest]

Valentine last year, somebody said we wont have new role icons but we still have

[olive prism]

Kem would have been looking suspicious if we had new icons

[obtuse folio]

the event started ?

[dire plank]

only 2023 2024 icons can be collectable tho

[velvet depot]

waiting for 2025 icons

[obtuse folio]

niceee so the event will start tomorrow

[olive prism]

Usually it's the same day

[obtuse folio]

yeah

[olive prism]

I wonder, if new icons continues, if Kem plans on making for each role a seasonal icon 🫢

[dire plank]

they would have announced already if the event would start today tho

Its 14.00 in germany if Im not wrong

[olive prism]

It happened for all others event

[velvet depot]

we want Morti and Warden icons

please

[pliant prism]

I-

Yes or no

[velvet depot]

no

[dire plank]

not now, wait

[olive prism]

No

[velvet depot]

wait

[pliant prism]

I dislike new icons

[velvet depot]

new icons will come

[pliant prism]

Meh

[dire plank]

wait until new icons drop imo

[velvet depot]

you don't even know them bro

[pliant prism]

Fine i wait

Id new one sucks i blame yall jk😂

[velvet depot]

bro name is CCCCCCC

[waxen yoke]

The icons quality got better each year

[velvet depot]

😭

[waxen yoke]

I like C

[obtuse folio]

and we dont have leaks about the 2025 ones ?

[velvet depot]

No

[olive prism]

i c

[olive prism]

Thas what i were talking bout, what if we don't have a third round

[obtuse folio]

that's a dilemma

[obtuse folio]

there is 92 roles in the game lmao ofc we'll have new ones

[olive prism]

Maybe Kem juste like Christmas

[velvet depot]

Maybe Kem broke up

and don't like valentine day anymore

[olive prism]

Wait I just remembered I don't like the event but I still want icons

[velvet depot]

I just want icons too

Warden and Morti pls

or Cutie sorcerer

[obtuse folio]

sorc maybe hum

[thick lotus]

I c u

[olive prism]

Nvm I just want new advanced roles and a bonus

[velvet depot]

🎀

[waxen yoke]

Ghost wolf icon when

[obtuse folio]

i'll do just one upgrade rn to have an old one and then i'll see

[olive prism]

I think Kem said something about that

[velvet depot]

Interested here

take my card

https://tenor.com/view/sale-sold-penguin-buy-pudgy-gif-17364115096426907263

[olive prism]

#speculations message

[velvet depot]

Saving money

Anoyying alpha icon from new collection can wait

[obtuse folio]

i got the doctor

[velvet depot]

gg soulless

I got only the ghost lady

[obtuse folio]

that's a cute one

[velvet depot]

and I got loudmouth too

[obtuse folio]

i wish they'll do a new ee

[velvet depot]

yeah !*

Kem drawing super fast icons when he saw that everyone want a 3rd turn

https://tenor.com/view/nyan-ecriture-writing-pumpking-gif-19376557

[olive prism]

Why is there

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-toons-gif-8340025

[velvet depot]

Because halloween matters

😭

[olive prism]

True

[buoyant patio]

We need more halloween icons and outfits and more scary stuff in general

||sattire||

[velvet depot]

💀

bro

I like this

ahaha

[olive prism]

@lone spade did you heard that?

[lone spade]

huh why

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/run-woman-hide-panic-dodge-gif-5264408

[lone spade]

I like halloween items

[velvet depot]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-backup-oh-no-ali-gif-22974604

[lone spade]

don’t let ashen hear you

[olive prism]

She said scary staff not scary stuff

[buoyant patio]

OMG I WROTE STAFF

HAHAHAHAHAH

SORRY

[olive prism]

OH WHAT IT WEREN'T INTENTIONAL?

[buoyant patio]

no

Staff - stuff
Poll - pool
if you see these coming from me 90% i mispelled dont @ me

[velvet depot]

😭

[olive prism]

I do which witch and where were

[pliant prism]

Anyone pic of valentine 23 and 24

[buoyant patio]

26

[obtuse folio]

i just one the doctor and mm

[buoyant patio]

do you have clean sheet ||i know you do but this is retorical, pls send tnx||

Telepathy help

[obtuse folio]

😂

[olive prism]

I have 1 icon of 20 ✨

[buoyant patio]

I have 0, fight me

[obtuse folio]

i'm scared to upgrade all my cards rn then i'll see that 2025 are so nice 😭

[thick lotus]

Ouh yay

[obtuse folio]

i have to keeep some for 2025

[olive prism]

Wait, just like we wait for BP votes

[obtuse folio]

yeah but imagine i wait till the annoucement then i dont like the 2025 ones 😭

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-bad-at-waiting-carina-deluca-waiting-carina-deluca-bad-at-waiting-stefania-spampinato-gif-9787519401375754305

[obtuse folio]

😂 dilemma

[lone spade]

OH LOLLLL

[mortal island]

Oh... All these role icons yet I still use OGs

[lone spade]

@buoyant patio are we that scary

[lusty gull]

boo

[olive prism]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-bed-time-afraid-shocked-gif-5618857036486320790

[lone spade]

LMAOO

spongebob is a mood

[mortal island]

@buoyant patio ||Tell her yes||

[lone spade]

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/yetee-sweating-nervous-the-yetee-gif-23495373

no

[lone spade]

[mortal island]

Intimidate cuts my attack by 1 stage

Forgive me staffs

[buoyant patio]

Im only scared of Cherry

others are nice

[lone spade]

I‘m so nice??

[buoyant patio]

[pliant prism]

Hmm meh

[lone spade]

Where am I scary??

I‘m a delight of sunshine

[pliant prism]

I am still running from you wdym😔

[lone spade]

@rapid birch agrees with me

[mortal island]

Do they get reruns?

[lone spade]

LOLLLL

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-clouds-world-meteorological-day-stormscapes-timelapse-clouds-shifting-gif-20902509

Cherry where?

[pliant prism]

There rn in game lol

[lone spade]

Lullaby

[olive prism]

I knew Cherry was the right staff to ping 🤓

[lone spade]

lolll

i was about to say

[olive prism]

What?

[buoyant patio]

MY PRETTY GIRL

[lone spade]

you agree i’m nice

[buoyant patio]

If I don’t get gl-

[pliant prism]

I only need a kid now

And i am happy

[buoyant patio]

Doesn’t

There i fixed it

||cherry im kidding pls dont ban me tnx||

[olive prism]

I mean you are doing your job so profesionally, you are funny even if sometimes you sounds like a robot, maybe you work too much since it's a volunteer job but it's nice. But you know you were the right one to ping, it were between you and WerewolfofNether but they were busy yesterday with role tournament 🫣 (ignore the edits please I'm just rephrasing)

Ok I've talked too much

[buoyant patio]

If u pinged Nether i would flee bc i dont know them and wouldnt dare to joke
But based on event yesterday nice staff as well???👀✨

[lone spade]

debating about that

^ @buoyant patio

[velvet depot]

Larry

[olive prism]

Was it awkward @lone spade 🤦

[lone spade]

OH PLEASE YOU CAN PING HIM

he‘s asleep rn i spammed his dm like 20 minutes ago

my message just got deleted

i said he is asleep rn

[buoyant patio]

cherry unbothered

[lone spade]

i spammed his dm like 20 minutes ago

[lone spade]

no my connection is just gone

[olive prism]

Wdym deleted, it's you right

[buoyant patio]

you spammed specu as well, we saw all messages none deleted

[obtuse folio]

and that's juste 2023 2024, 2025 are coming with the official annoucement

[olive prism]

@rapid birch cherry said to ping, she's cool right

[lone spade]

no i mean discord ate it
I sent it and poof

[lone spade]

what

[olive prism]

So how did you spam if it weren't sent

[lone spade]

i spammed ashen’s dms

not here

[olive prism]

You could have tried again

[torpid sparrow]

Praying is done during the night

[lone spade]

I DID

[lone spade]

here

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/new-role-icons-gif-515699251744674527

[olive prism]

You mean BP votes 😗

[mortal island]

[buoyant patio]

Both, but I think we’re getting icons before votes. Or not?

[olive prism]

Kem VS Lisa

Battle starts

Oh wait it's Philipp

That announce events

[pliant prism]

I

[surreal heart]

No new icons?

[frail trellis]

tomorrow apparently

[oak sequoia]

Wait, we can already get icons ?

And new ones tomorrow ?

Mmh I see

[dire plank]

we can get icons from 2023 and 2024 currently

[obtuse folio]

only 2023 2024

[buoyant patio]

I don’t know should I wait or should I upgrade

[pliant prism]

I eh

I upgraded

[oak sequoia]

Ooh okay okay

I don't know if I upgrade my cards or I wait a bit to see the new ones

[dreamy whale]

Day 4 of me wanting these like I'm so excited I just want these so badddd

I also wanna buy the new collection

So I'll probs get more gems when it releases.

[empty tree]

Well goodluck

[dreamy whale]

Ty :^)

I saw these collections a year ago and was so sad that I barely missed them TwT

[empty tree]

They did come back sometimes

[dreamy whale]

I thought they only released during Valentine's

Because I haven't seen them since.

[dawn cairn]

Forger for me -> guess important roles to protect and get benefit of

[empty tree]

I saw them releasing it some months ago

[dreamy whale]

How many tho

[buoyant patio]

I got almost all of those yes

Gotta love my luck

[dreamy whale]

I've been checking in daily for about 7 months straight.

[buoyant patio]

So im not the only one

[dawn cairn]

Xmas was the first and got icons for 3 years (but yah xmas icons way less in numbers)

[dreamy whale]

I don't understand some of the outfits that don't have eyebrows -_-

Like how

[dawn cairn]

Mayor worth it

[empty tree]

they get covered by hair

[buoyant patio]

Is lm via customs obtainable rn or gotta wait official event

[empty tree]

obtainable

I just did with two people

[buoyant patio]

If anyone wants/can do feel free to ping me <3

[empty tree]

I can

If ya want ofc

[buoyant patio]

Sureee thank youu

[empty tree]

You have both bg & gl right?

I will make the room

[buoyant patio]

I have bg… isnt only one needed :o

[empty tree]

Yea

[buoyant patio]

Oh good then u scared me

[empty tree]

Room: Bg x Gl
Flag: 🇬🇧
Pass: LOVE

[agile basin]

wow

[velvet depot]

Roles who already have valentine icon :

Ok missed a lot

[mortal island]

[velvet depot]

Siren is cool

But I don’t have it

[idle thicket]

[dusky perch]

[agile basin]

Siren is top, but it has better icons 🫧

[buoyant patio]

siren from killers bp >>>>

[dusky perch]

icon updated a bit

[regal crane]

I checked last year, the announcement was made the 12/02

[dusky perch]

lol i didnt notice the hands was weird af now better

[agile basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-the-same-picture-they-are-the-same-picture-gif-20830121

[buoyant patio]

Before they looked like this 🫷🏽🫸🏽

[agile basin]

(i dont remember if I pingued the first gif I send, wrongly, ups)

[buoyant patio]

no

[agile basin]

ah true

[agile basin]

new // old

old ones looked super weird

[thick lotus]

Ur mission one more

[agile basin]

omg 1000% zoom high quality

[worn marten]

ohhh

[thick lotus]

Idk which one but theres 20 in total (21 if u count ee lm

[agile basin]

old looked all fine until the revised version came tho

[thick lotus]

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-family-feud-canada-failed-high-five-good-job-well-done-gif-24052801

I see Kem in chat; are them icons approaching as well

[velvet depot]

Best one is music

[agile basin]

better than the bloody one?

[velvet depot]

Oh yeah nevermind

[mortal island]

Hopefully

[buoyant patio]

No, killer one

[olive prism]

How to even do that

[mortal island]

Valentine

But let's be real, Siren icons are 🤌

[buoyant patio]

Best one ☝️

[thick lotus]

I love that one

[buoyant patio]

Yessss

[thick lotus]

Too bad i couldnt get it

[buoyant patio]

/jk

[thick lotus]

😔😔😔

[buoyant patio]

Seeing this siren was the only time i was proud of my picky icon taste

[thick lotus]

I think one of my favorite icons r...

Probably once upon a time fc

Not my favorite role but the icon was so well designed

[buoyant patio]

One of the best icons for me is base Wolffluencer

[mortal island]

[buoyant patio]

You don’t even to read description to understand the role lol

[mortal island]

[buoyant patio]

why is it called wolffluencer help

[agile basin]

it was the original wolffluencer

[buoyant patio]

Ohhhhh

[dire plank]

that indeed was wolfflu

they created new wolfflu

[buoyant patio]

When was that?

Just so i can check my memory

[dire plank]

and didnt wanted for old one to be wasted so they gave that icon for wolf scribe

[dire plank]

when wolfflu was testing

[buoyant patio]

I just checked wiki, 2022 which makes sense i didnt play back then

[dusky perch]

I LOVE THIS

[dapper walrus]

whut 👁️

[velvet depot]

Who remember automatic info message

[agile basin]

🫧

[thick lotus]

#game-updates message

[dusky perch]

^

[agile basin]

pls come back

[velvet depot]

No

[buoyant patio]

@thick lotus . late

Not leo, jay

[thick lotus]

Nuh uh

[buoyant patio]

Sorry leo for jumpscare

[velvet depot]

Leo

It’s me

[dapper walrus]

gonna hope it is a setting which you disable it 🙏

[dusky perch]

yes its

[dapper walrus]

thank god

[bitter wadi]

very good for phones

[agile basin]

Hear me out, bubble effects for 400 gems in some months from now

[olive drift]

thats too much ☹️

actually you should be able to sell it for gems bc not only its purely cosmetic it could be distracting ‼️‼️

[buoyant patio]

Yea i pinged u by accident

[velvet depot]

It’s ok

[olive prism]

Feed us more

[feral sluice]

Are we playing habbo hotel now

[bitter wadi]

nah, 3100

with a random chat color thing

🔥🔥🔥

[agile basin]

Bubble text premium

[bitter wadi]

the price decreases with every message you send!

[finite nest]

woah that is cool. i hope it's an option since it will quickly clutter the screen in a talkative lobby

(sorry for pinging you Salem)

[dire plank]

Chat gonna be removed??

[round iris]

Is it a fan art or a leak?

[tacit lotus]

How the hell was Storm Wolf for testing being this weak 💀🤦

[agile basin]

fr

I had made a kinda interesting post about the most buffed roles in the history of wov and it was kinda fun

[pliant prism]

Welp

Buffed was needed

[dusky perch]

No its just option

[dusky perch]

I posted :x

[wooden nexus]

top 10 features no one asked for

it's cool tho

[spare harness]

I want more skin for loyalty coins

[floral topaz]

How do I get this emote

[rapid birch]

Who?

[lone spade]

????

[rapid birch]

Hey Bully

[olive prism]

[regal crane]

"I love Wolvesville"

Is that bubble chat thing just a concept or is it actually gonna be added into the game ?

[dawn cairn]

Those were the good days

[mighty fractal]

Any new Valentines icons?

[mighty fractal]

What role is this supposed to be adv of?

It can be RL adv, I guess
Or if it Has infinite potential then veggie adv

[regal crane]

It can hardly fit with vigi

Maaaaybe rl/sheriff
I'm unsure how strong or weak it would be tbh

If it's only one per game it probably fit to rl/sheriff in term of strengh
Probably

[dire plank]

No

It doesn't fits any tree

This new roles ability is guess and gain ability

[regal crane]

Kinda

[dire plank]

Only preacher has smtg similar with this but they only gain votes

[dire plank]

Sheriff tree is info tree

This role can never get info

[regal crane]

The reveal is an info

[dire plank]

Its 1/3 chance + sheriff tree is not reveal tree

Lm tree is the reveal tree

The only possibility for this role to be in game is new tree

But this role also is too complicated to be base role

I guess this role gonna wait for years until they add a new base role that can suit this role

[regal crane]

More than that, you're not rly see a lot of guesses on evils

[velvet depot]

Pls leak

About icons

[dire plank]

Or just never gonna be added to the game, If I remember well, devs said they might add some roles to the game that won't come into game fully

[regal crane]

Yet avg in lm tree
Tree doesn't necesserly have a single criteria to fullfill

[dire plank]

That case this role will %90 always get protection

[regal crane]

There's prob as many unks as goods

[dire plank]

Bcz villagers die more than wolves or unks at night

[regal crane]

But ye, it will be prot most of the time

[dire plank]

Even if they do, this role can start be useful after night 3

[mighty fractal]

That's why I thought vigi would be OK if you gave the role infinite potential and ability to stack

[dire plank]

So basically a useless role early game and weak role late game

[mighty fractal]

Because rn it only Has a potential of 1

[regal crane]

Kinda like sheriff 🤓
A bit why I'd probably prefer to have it in sheriff tree

[mighty fractal]

Which only fits with RL tree

[dire plank]

If they don't do any buff to this role, it will never be vigis advanced

[dire plank]

Sheriff is a lot useful than this role lol

Sheriff can guess two players

[regal crane]

Sheriff get better late game coz easier to guess

[dire plank]

This role one

[regal crane]

Yes, but it provides less value

[mighty fractal]

It will never be any adv, it's on par with fc and lm when it comes to strengh, with only good combo being with jailer and witch trees

[dire plank]

This roles abilities are:

• A single use witch protection potion
• A single use forgers sword
• A single use vigis reveal

[regal crane]

And even if it were to be weaker than sheriff, then there wouldn't be a lot of tree we could place it balance wise

[mighty fractal]

And only one to choose smh

Not even choose if you think about it

[dire plank]

And they can't even fully choose which one they want lol

Even Lm tree better than this role

Its like fc v2

[regal crane]

Vigi reveal and forger sword is kinda strong for sheriff level

[mighty fractal]

Forky tree better than this role 🫠

[dire plank]

Whats the chance of wolf dying during night and this role guessing it?

[regal crane]

That's low indeed, it's gonna more be prot/reveal

[mighty fractal]

And only one time 😭

[dire plank]

Pacis reveal atleast helps village to stop voting to prevent mislynch too

[regal crane]

Not saying it's strong, jst saying it feels sheriff level

[dire plank]

Its not an option while vio exists lol

[regal crane]

Pacis reveal is broken

[mighty fractal]

This gotta be a rl adv 🫠 there's no other role it fits, except for forky and fc

[regal crane]

That's why get vio out of here x)

It has nothing to do with sheriff

[dire plank]

Rl tree is self protection tree

This role never can self protect lol

[regal crane]

Sa is in bg tree

[dire plank]

It's protection ability is witch's protection potion

[regal crane]

Role trees can be flexibles

[dire plank]

Bg tree is protect/gain info tree

[mighty fractal]

This role self protects itself by being useless and no one wanting to kill it

[dire plank]

Lolll

[regal crane]

There's two roles, you can't use two criterias x)

[dire plank]

This prob is the role devs told us that they might add some roles to sandbox that never will actually come to game

[mighty fractal]

BG is let stronger roles survive with 0 material tree

[regal crane]

Self prot yes
But just like we could have said that bg tree was about protection if sa wasn't in it

[regal crane]

Ik, not talking about bg tree being balanced or not

[dire plank]

Tg is not only protect too

[mighty fractal]

It's balanced

[dire plank]

Bg tree is protect/gain info tree

[mighty fractal]

They're gonna be put in the same jail ft was in 🫠

[dire plank]

Bg sacrifices themselves for info roles so info roles can gain info, tg gets injured and dies same day but can learn the attacker, sa can't protect information roles but instead steal their role

[regal crane]

Yet bg can only prot
And sa can only "get info"

I can see a role in rl tree that wouldn't be self save

[dire plank]

Locksmith in that jail rn

[regal crane]

Prob not this one tho

[dire plank]

Tg mixture of that two

[regal crane]

If there was an intruder in bg tree, it would be sa tbh x)

[dire plank]

But all serve for same purpose, protect the information role (or steal the information role)

[mighty fractal]

Loksmith got locked with his Lock and forgot The key so he gonna make it and become keymaker

[regal crane]

There's two way to share a tree
Having the same purpose
Having same mecs

Rl and gl have same mecs, but not same purpose at all
I can imagine a role who would have a purpose similar to rl, but share no mecs

And I may call this role sheriff

And get that vio back to aura tree

[dire plank]

Preacher and prayer has same mechanics too

[dire plank]

• nearly same name too

[regal crane]

Completely
And I think it may make sense

[dire plank]

Vio can't go back to aura tree because sheriff tree gains infos from deads, aura tree gains infos from alives

Only ss-vio creating new tree would make sense but it will never happen bcz of aura to ss veteran cards

[regal crane]

The dead dudes conditions the info she's gonna get, but she gets infos on alive players 🤷‍♂️
It's almost gamb, but it has more vill checks than gamb per game
Plus it has more precise infos

[rapid birch]

Pretty sure that just means all roles that enter sandbox may not end up in the game if they aren't liked, not them specifically planning on testing roles they have 0 intention of ever adding in- since the latter just doesn't make sense when they could instead see how roles they do want to add do

[lone spade]

WHAT

WHAT????

[rapid birch]

:)

[lone spade]

IM SO NICE TO YOU

YOURE THE ONE CONSTANTLY BEING MEAN TO ME

[rapid birch]

You called me pudding boy 😔

[lone spade]

I DID NOT

WHERE

[dire plank]

#justince4locksmith

[lone spade]

justince

[rapid birch]

Ah apologies it was 'Meanie Beanie'

[lone spade]

oh yea that I called you

because it’s true

:)

[rapid birch]

tell it to the judge

[wooden nexus]

Too much orange

[lone spade]

Your honor, I fully stand behind my statement, it’s true

[lone spade]

literally two staff member lmfao

[dire plank]

Why English not perfect 😔

[wooden nexus]

You're both orange

[dire plank]

My

[lone spade]

nah it’s okay i make many typos, you can get back at me

[wooden nexus]

It's like talking to myself

[rapid birch]

It's only too much orange because Bully here entered

[dire plank]

I have question for u since ur online

[rapid birch]

I have possible answer

[dire plank]

Will the rewards of voting for creative ideas part of rt have same rewards as this just ended ones?

[dusky perch]

i would say witch ?

[dire plank]

Or will there be different rewards for winners of creative part of roles

[rapid birch]

No idea, probably not if I had to guess since I think they tend to be lesser since that's more of a side thing?

[lone spade]

????????

[dire plank]

[lone spade]

I literally got you Blight ingame

like the role card for it

and you hate on me like that?? wow

[wooden nexus]

[dire plank]

Wov 2025 spring tournament starts when

[wooden nexus]

Enough with those tournaments

[dusky perch]

[rapid birch]

Where's the FC

[dire plank]

Ill enter top 16 as always trust

[lone spade]

😪 add me on wov…

[wooden nexus]

This better not be medium

[rapid birch]

I did ages ago, don't start forgetting things granny

[dire plank]

No its treeless role

[lone spade]

I removed you

don’t call me granny

[rapid birch]

Skill issue-

[lone spade]

you’re literally a decade older than me

smh

[dire plank]

No role tree fits this role

[dusky perch]

no else can talk to deads

[rapid birch]

You wouldn't be able to be staff if that were true

[dire plank]

@solid abyss @empty tree new role

[regal crane]

Is that a jailer tree wannabe who can't shoot 🤔

[lone spade]

actually, count again

[mighty fractal]

It seems weaker than witch tho if it Has only one potential

Do my messages sens?

[mighty fractal]

Looks pretty med to me

[lone spade]

it would be possible

[dire plank]

You posted new role at 00.01 lol

[frail trellis]

[dire plank]

10000 weaker med lol

[wooden nexus]

Oh it's 22 already

[dire plank]

Can't reveal and only can chat with one specific player

[regal crane]

That's "weak"/self provable

[dire plank]

Revive*

[dusky perch]

med without revive

[mighty fractal]

Bind yourself to seer, GG

[dusky perch]

can be new base?

else its useless af

[dire plank]

No I think this role won't come to game anytime soon (besties testing on sb)

[dire plank]

Its useless.

[regal crane]

Wait how tf are you the one to drop it @dusky perch 🤔
Where does it come from ?

[dire plank]

Lol after 6 years, they finally added a role that is weaker than fc 🥹

[dire plank]

Fc no longer weakest role in game

[mighty fractal]

It's not, if you bind yourself to seer you both have a permanent night chat which you can use to share info, even if seer dies

[dire plank]

Med can does better

Lol

[regal crane]

It's self provable

[dire plank]

Med can also talk with others too

[dire plank]

So is fc

[regal crane]

Fc cost a day

[rapid birch]

[dusky perch]

i always have been only one leaking new roles

[mighty fractal]

But I have a better idea for this role, just let this role change the selected person every day, but once a bind person or you die it's locked

[dire plank]

Still weak

[regal crane]

But you're not staff 🤔

How

[dire plank]

Forky that can sent private messages

[wooden nexus]

Should be able to bind a player with another player, not just with themselves

[lone spade]

[dusky perch]

and bcuz im not staff i can leak it

[mighty fractal]

Bind seer with gunner/jailer, enjoy the chaos

[wooden nexus]

Salem how are you a tester

[regal crane]

A tester 🥸 ?

[dusky perch]

testers cant leak things so im not

[wooden nexus]

What are you then

[regal crane]

I didn't know there was testers

[dire plank]

Salem is vigilante

[dusky perch]

only staff and ex staff

[regal crane]

Maaaake sense ig

[dire plank]

Right @dusky perch ?

[mighty fractal]

I was trying to find it and it's impossible on web and steam, how do you do it 🫠

[regal crane]

So
U ex staff ?

[mighty fractal]

I tried everything

[regal crane]

Or just hecker

[dusky perch]

agree with this

[wooden nexus]

You'll live with the doubt

[regal crane]

Haaaaa

[dusky perch]

im just normal player/

[regal crane]

Salem = philipp alt
Confirmed

[mighty fractal]

Where there's a whole encrypted file on steam version with unadded content 🫠

[wooden nexus]

I doubt they're just finding that stuff in the code

[mighty fractal]

You can always find it on API if you know what you're looking for 🫠

[wooden nexus]

Which means they have at least some information

[dire plank]

Was this role from rt?

[agile basin]

Soulbinder looks sooo cool

[wild basalt]

Is the icon upgrade official

Like are there new ones too

[waxen yoke]

there are no new ones yet

but you can upgrade to get the older ones for now

[spare harness]

it's out ?

[waxen pawn]

I tried to draw and edit to see if I can replicate the same thing as in the screenshot and make it look the same. (It's not from the game)

[dire plank]

I like the icon but not sure abt the role

[waxen pawn]

Ignore what the role does, I put the first thing that came to my mind. It's just an editing test. I had to put something to fill in the blanks.

[bitter wadi]

ermmmm

another one to the no counter and generally useless roles

[runic cargo]

not every role needs a counter. Ghost ww has no counter.

[bitter wadi]

it kinda does when it's a self provable villager

which will be rrv i assume

as the strength is nowhere near an rsv

[regal crane]

Kinda agree

It's gonna be a mayor-like

[runic cargo]

meh, astro self-provable and no counter for new moon

[regal crane]

That can sometimes gain info from dead informer

[regal crane]

AND YOU CAN'T EVEN KILL THE ASTRO

Sorry

YOU CAN'T SHADOW THE ASTRO IT DOESN'T CANCEL THE NEW MOON

Hum

[bitter wadi]

you mentioned one of the most unbalanced roles right now

[runic cargo]

paci is provable and has no counter

[wild basalt]

Yes i just got sectleader

[runic cargo]

but I wanna check out this role, it has a usecase, just wanna test if you can use it enough for it to be valid

[spare harness]

Oh oki

[mighty fractal]

Ww paci is the only counter

[rapid birch]

[spare harness]

what is the old valentine icon list pls?

[worthy nebula]

can we get these now already?

[buoyant patio]

Yes. I got them and few other players as well

If u want to be sure you can wait few days for official confirmation

[dire plank]

Kitten

[worthy nebula]

alright thanks

[dire plank]

Paci, Anarchist

[dire plank]

Village itself counters lol, paci wastes villagers voting phase + wwp counters too

[dire plank]

• doesn't even fits any role tree

[regal crane]

Does that imply that there will be no new icons this year ?
It's weird to get the olds icons but not the new ones

[buoyant patio]

Nope? each icon event we were able to get old years ones couple days earlier iirc

[regal crane]

Alr, ty

[buoyant patio]

Thats why i wrote:

[regal crane]

Though it was about being sure not to waste role cards in case it wouldn't give the icons

Alr

[buoyant patio]

That as well + some don’t want to waste cards now and risk possibility of new icons being prettier

I did half now and other half will wait for new icons

Even tho if i dont like them it will reduce my % of getting the ones i actually like but meh

[spare harness]

ty !

[pliant prism]

Mashaaa

Cutii

U got gl?

[bronze cobalt]

ive got the best ones, the only i want next are tg and vigi

and maybe hh but i already got a better icon on it

[buoyant patio]

Nooo only bg :(

[pliant prism]

I got gl

U want the lm?

Or already have

[buoyant patio]

Sunny helped me

[buoyant patio]

Im jealous :(

[dreamy whale]

I'm so ready for the outfits to come back out and the new icons

[buoyant patio]

https://tenor.com/view/new-role-icons-gif-515699251744674527

[hasty harness]

i’ve got some… but i wanted alchemist and doc so bad it makes me cry

i only upgraded to epic, as soon as the new icons arrive, im upgrading to legendary and then my flagger to mythic 💜

[pliant prism]

Ahh alr

[pliant prism]

Imme be honesy

I want bg more

[buoyant patio]

Lets trade

I give you bg and 63828292 roses for gl

[pliant prism]

HAHAH

[spare harness]

seven icon left, rip my cards

[pliant prism]

I already got you as a friend

[spare harness]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-orange-stewly-gif-14193106288143001787

[hasty harness]

should i cry?

[pliant prism]

No

[vestal shale]

I would

[pliant prism]

You can get lm ee

[hasty harness]

i already got him! but that was months ago

[thick lotus]

U can still do it now

For those who don't have it

(Me)

[hasty harness]

i think i got him when i was playing bg and somebody was playing with the valentine’s gl? not sure

[pliant prism]

Lmao on accident

[hasty harness]

YES, and i was really confused, because i hadn’t upgraded any cards

[buoyant patio]

GHOST LADYYY AAAAA

[obtuse folio]

any leaks ?

of info

[ashen musk]

@steady quiver, Seems like you're spamming the chat. Please cool down a bit. 🧊

[clever field]

same 😔

i need someone who got bg

[buoyant patio]

I have it

[clever field]

😮😮

soo we just have to play together?

[buoyant patio]

yep but with current setups; custom is the best option

[pliant prism]

Yes

[buoyant patio]

mlem nub

[spare harness]

How we got it

[pliant prism]

Ohmy

Yes

Mlem

[pliant prism]

Got what

[spare harness]

lm ee

nub

[pliant prism]

Get someone with

[buoyant patio]

match bg and gl

[pliant prism]

Grrrrr

[spare harness]

ah okii

[spare harness]

Masha >>

[pliant prism]

Wow

[spare harness]

hihi

[verbal rapids]

card event started?

[pliant prism]

Nahhh

Im hurt

[dreamy whale]

Did the icons start?

[clever field]

ohh yess

[tacit lotus]

Icon Event Start?

HelloV

???

[dreamy whale]

Idk

I'm asking the same thing

[clever field]

no

[pliant prism]

Yes

[buoyant patio]

[pliant prism]

Masha cuti indeed

[buoyant patio]

You can get old icons, but not new

[pliant prism]

also nub <3

[buoyant patio]

No U

[pliant prism]

Iloveu

[buoyant patio]

That was the moment when Dea got blocked

[pliant prism]

HAHAHAH

[verbal rapids]

then I'm waiting for the new ones

[tacit lotus]

That’s very sussy of devs

[smoky folio]

[pliant prism]

[smoky folio]

X)

[regal crane]

I got both gl and bg, need someone for lm

[verbal rapids]

i got lm from the start

[regal crane]

Not possible tho

[dawn cairn]

Rrv med?

[pliant prism]

I got gl

[verbal rapids]

it was pure luck i played with gl

i was bg

last year event started feb 11th

any chance we get new icons today?

[regal crane]

Need ur ign

[dawn cairn]

There's no leaks nor announcement about new roles yet

[regal crane]

Prob no, the old icons just got available

[verbal rapids]

yeah but since old icons are available

[pliant prism]

Deatje

[verbal rapids]

it's a scam, u upgrade cards now and when the new ones come out u don't have cards anymore

[dapper walrus]

nubje*

[pliant prism]

No

[dapper walrus]

yuh huh 🤺

[dawn cairn]

this happened before in other events

should wait till event announcement

For new roles

[verbal rapids]

Salem didn't posted anything new on insta either

[buoyant patio]

Thats why i upgraded half cards and will keep other half for new icons

[verbal rapids]

i still need to get like 20 cards until i can upgrade 🤣

[pliant prism]

No

[verbal rapids]

i do

[pliant prism]

1 icon is 12 cards

[verbal rapids]

i want to get as much as i can

i still need to lvl up like 10 lvl to get cards

[dawn cairn]

I doubt anyone will settle for 1 icon when there's 20-30 icons

[verbal rapids]

and i have 6 more days to go to get role cards

[buoyant patio]

20+new ones

[pliant prism]

Seeing this feels so weird

Help😭

[buoyant patio]

HELP

[pliant prism]

HAHSHSHS

[dawn cairn]

Well if you're able to get golden cards

[pliant prism]

YOU UNDERSYAND ME RIGHT

[buoyant patio]

[verbal rapids]

they look so naked

[dawn cairn]

It's time for mythical

[buoyant patio]

Pla upgrade to blue

This is hurtful to watch

[spare harness]

oops

[buoyant patio]

So many bodyguards

[regal crane]

I feel that x)

[buoyant patio]

So many everything

[solid abyss]

Huh I dont get the role

[regal crane]

I can't keep it to gray

[buoyant patio]

Me

[solid abyss]

Only usefull for /

[pliant prism]

Well actually i wwnted to do one impuslive

Yall stopped me

And now i wont

[buoyant patio]

Basically you can bound to aura to get info after they die

[solid abyss]

I will feel like if I get soul binder

[verbal rapids]

I'm waiting if i need to upgrade perk too, i don't want to use all the blue cards for only perk upgrade

[buoyant patio]

yall are upgrading perks?

[pliant prism]

Imme cry with this

[solid abyss]

Oh

[solid abyss]

Yep

[pliant prism]

I dont

[verbal rapids]

i do, bc i bst

[regal crane]

What's the point to keep a golden card if you're not using the perks anyway

[dawn cairn]

Yah i mean when new icons out

[solid abyss]

Unlimited talisman 🤭

[buoyant patio]

my nub knows better

[buoyant patio]

golden not valuable if you wont upgrade to mythic

[solid abyss]

Thanks

[buoyant patio]

They just look pretty

and nth much

[solid abyss]

Its good but like idk its feel empty until test I cant say anything but

[regal crane]

It's more perks slots, and better pev odds