speculations

[hollow elk]

can't be tree it's useless comparated to

[flat blade]

my final guess. I'd love anarchist but like Kim said, it's too difficult to implement it without a fool advance

[hallow quail]

Kim 🥰

[hollow elk]

will be advanced of both for me

[flat blade]

Wouldn't make sense

[hollow elk]

Make more sense than advanced of only

[dawn parcel]

Anarchist is nothing like Fool

[hollow elk]

they don't belong to the village team

[flat blade]

Headhunter and anarchist need to survive to see their target/crowd get lynched. Fool is nothing like that

[hollow elk]

For a villager , seing or is the same : they don't belong to the village team

[dawn parcel]

Lurker and Wwf as Cursed advanced:

[hollow elk]

I agree

But my bet are for and

[dawn parcel]

Let's also not forget Instigator

If Gentle gets added I will personally flame anyone who will use it

[hollow elk]

But I don't see how it could be problematic to have as advanced of

[dawn parcel]

In sb

[flat blade]

If Anar ends up making it, I'll go straight to #1052307374179885226

[dawn cairn]

Swamp seems like most ready role to release

[dawn parcel]

Exactly this

[hollow elk]

If they only release I cry

[dawn parcel]

Even though it is bad

It's more useful than Gentle

[tranquil comet]

its just funneh

[flat blade]

Swamp and Anarchist. 5€ if I'm wrong

[hollow elk]

If they release only or only I am gonna cry , because we don't need that

[dawn parcel]

I'm staying with Spy and Swamp

[hollow elk]

But it remembered be released solo

For me and , I won't change my bet

A wolf is guaranteed anyway

[flat blade]

I'm gonna fucking cry if it's a solo release

[hollow elk]

If it's okay , but if it's not , I will do the same

If they release , I quit

[flat blade]

It's a wolf icon so if it's gonna be a solo release

It won't be anar

[hollow elk]

If it's only , I quit 😂

was a disaster no need an other one

[hallow quail]

Alr

:>

[flat blade]

2 is new roles. 3 are the new badges. 4 is the new crazy game mode

What's 1 supposed to be

[hollow elk]

New way to gain XP?

For me this won't be a solo release , because for they even not putted a role icon

Role icons were for double release

[hallow quail]

New daily quests

[vocal helm]

I hope there's daily quest refresh

[steep hinge]

I still have the old one lol

[dawn cairn]

my problem wasn't the solo release but is useless addition

[vestal shale]

2’s about new roles not new icon?

I want to see the icons so badly

Not the roles 🫷

[dawn parcel]

Icons always get leaked in #item-previews

We just have to wait a bit more

[vestal shale]

Im still wondering when

[fading fern]

Next year

[vestal shale]

This is about the icons isn’t it

[vestal shale]

Than

Idk

Who s typing since

[dawn cairn]

there was never a vote to reveal icons, it's just get revealed

[vestal shale]

Father send your message already

[vestal shale]

I believe it is

🫷

Maybe not this time

Maybe they want us to

[vocal helm]

They get revealed anyways bru

[vestal shale]

The sooner the better

[flat blade]

So since swamp ww is 100% coming, what's the base role? Nww or shaman

[dawn parcel]

Imagine they make storm base

[vestal shale]

[dawn parcel]

But it's prob nww

[vocal helm]

Oh I was thinking shaman for sure

[dawn parcel]

Unless they want to give shaman a 4th advanced

[dawn cairn]

some said it will have own tree (chaos tree )

[vocal helm]

Never crossed my mind that it could be nww

[flat blade]

I hope it's shaman because that means we can do storm/swamp shenanigans

[dawn cairn]

it was replacement of shaman when tested

[vocal helm]

^

[vestal shale]

[vocal helm]

Det

[vestal shale]

[dawn parcel]

That doesn't always have to mean it will be for that role

Locksmith was being tested as doctor but became for bg

[dawn cairn]

ls never made it actually

[dawn parcel]

True

But you get my point

[vocal helm]

I dislike the icon

[dawn cairn]

ye but swamp kinda have mixed concept, confusion from shaman and some kind of role block from nww

tbh it would be better if make new tree for those even tho im excited to see a role tree made of +3 advance

[tawdry pawn]

Shaman mythic cards if swamp is added to the tree:📈

[quaint summit]

My predictions for the update

1. Quest rework
2. Random Weak and random strong ww are added/Swamp is added
3. Veteran badge
4. No protection roles crazy gamemode

[hollow elk]

Yeah for the 2 I think it's random strong and random weak ww

[vestal flint]

then no new roles?

hmmm

[tawdry pawn]

Hope so, the only new good roles they could add are in testing so it's too soon

[dapper walrus]

i mean we will see it tommorow or something

[quaint summit]

Well 2 might be swamp ww

[dapper walrus]

oh wait only noticed now the veteran badge shown is the 6th for the 6th birthday

[dusky perch]

wolf butt

[dusky perch]

almost correct

quest is wrong name for challenges !

[dapper walrus]

huh O_o

[bitter wadi]

a ww is coming for sure

for 2

[weak burrow]

Btw why we need to vote if all the updates will be implemented?

or nah

[dapper walrus]

that just vote to reveal what is in the update

[weak burrow]

I see

[quaint summit]

I always say quests when there are some kinds of tasks in video games

[dusky perch]

true but quest is clan quest

[quaint summit]

Also true, but yeah I meant the challenges

[flat blade]

No new roles? Womp womp

[hollow elk]

There will be 2

Don't worry

[dense sonnet]

Which mythology is the BP loading screen actually based on? 2nd one is egypt obv

[hallow quail]

What's that xd

[dusky perch]

emoji

[hallow quail]

Oh still didn't see them

[steep hinge]

New update might be mid

[flat blade]

Chill

We haven't seen the roles yet

Then we can determine whether it's mid or not

[steep hinge]

W offer

[steep hinge]

Roles?

@dusky perch are there gonna be new roles in the next update

[flat blade]

No way 2 is just the introduction of weak/strong ww in sandbox

That's such a minor change

[steep hinge]

Fr

Im lowkey hoping random other

If that happend

[flat blade]

We already had random other in sandbox

Last rotation

[steep hinge]

We need it AGAIN

[flat blade]

I agree

And we also had weak/strong ww in sandbox too, I'm pretty sure

[steep hinge]

Why does it look like a bean

Look how its shaped

No offense

[hallow quail]

What is this £

[steep hinge]

#item-previews message

[tawdry pawn]

Pounds

[silent lantern]

which one do I buy? the new calendar or the February one?

[steep hinge]

Alr

Do you like priest

[silent lantern]

um

It's more about the clothes

[steep hinge]

Do you like this

[hallow quail]

I mean the money

[steep hinge]

More then this?

[steep hinge]

Gem Quest

[hallow quail]

Nah

I mean "£"

2024 calendars are ugly ngl

[wooden nexus]

It's pounds

[hallow quail]

But I bought them all

[wooden nexus]

Something british

[hallow quail]

Ty

[silent lantern]

I think emojis are cute :)

[hallow quail]

Judge and ft cute

Maybe some bg and shirts too

[steep hinge]

How about you buy both

[wooden nexus]

Ft is an easter egg

[hallow quail]

Ik I have it ?

[wooden nexus]

So you either trade it or buy it twice

Those ee icons shouldn't exist imo

[silent lantern]

I only have 600 gems, I don't know if I will be able to collect another 250 before the end of March

[steep hinge]

Who can i ping to make my epic design to be added into the game

[steep hinge]

Yeah...

Just go with your heart

[silent lantern]

but u hate conj

[silent lantern]

haha, okay

[steep hinge]

But its amazing

[hallow quail]

U should buy easter icons instead :>

[steep hinge]

They like the clothes more

[tawdry pawn]

Looks like Leela from futurama

[hallow quail]

It's sad 😠

I mean icons are important too

[hallow quail]

LOLL

[steep hinge]

Wtf is futurma

Yeah no

Doesnt look like it

[silent lantern]

I finally bought this...

I don't like icons

[steep hinge]

Nice

[silent lantern]

I only have those role icons

😔

[steep hinge]

Blud

You have better role icons den me

[silent lantern]

the bomber icon is very cute!

[steep hinge]

Which one

[silent lantern]

the heart one

[steep hinge]

The cyber one lol

Worst part is

I dont have bomber :(

[silent lantern]

nooo, vry sad :(

[steep hinge]

The cannibal icon from this bp was actually very neat

Even though i didnt have it i grinded for it

[silent lantern]

I don't have any more role cards, I improved the medium twice and both times I got conju

[steep hinge]

I feel bad damn

[silent lantern]

😔

The same thing happened with the justi, I was a gunman both times.

[steep hinge]

Justi?

[wooden nexus]

Vigilante

[steep hinge]

Alr

[silent lantern]

I forgot that in english its not the same as spanish

[wooden nexus]

What's vigilante in spanish?

[silent lantern]

justiciero

something like police?

or rather, someone who distributes justice haha

[hallow quail]

"Sentinelle" in french 💀

[cursive dagger]

Mdr

[hollow elk]

You are french ?

But yeah some translations are strange

Like which is "garnement" in french

Or also which is 'Loup-Nécrologue' in french ( I am french and I never heard the words "nécrologue" and "nécrologie ")

[hallow quail]

It's like "prestidigitateur"

[hallow quail]

My game is now in english so I didn't know that name in french xd

[hollow elk]

yeah

[lyric sedge]

Theese are mine

Ik its not alot but it works

[half citrus]

here are mine lol

[solid abyss]

These are mine

[hallow quail]

🥱

[solid abyss]

You hushh you pay money to gain icons

[lyric sedge]

THAT BOMBER ICON

PICEL ONE

[hallow quail]

Uh no only 10€ and calendars

[half citrus]

pixel?

[lyric sedge]

Oo the cupid one is very good too

[lyric sedge]

Ye

[half citrus]

which one is your fav of mine lol

[solid abyss]

🥱

Dont have dark love cupid

You loss level in my eyes know

[lyric sedge]

Bomber ed and astro

[solid abyss]

💀

[hallow quail]

The skin is ugly

[steep hinge]

Astro LMAO

[hallow quail]

The pride one ?

[half citrus]

mine gl (bp 30), gunner (xmas), tg (vlt), trickster, and sl lol

[hollow elk]

Pov will be advanced of 😫

[steep hinge]

At least i can flex my 3 goldens

[hallow quail]

Berserk and toxic wolf>

[hollow elk]

I prefer than

[hallow quail]

Where is golden illu ??

[steep hinge]

I never had illu

[hallow quail]

U have golden corr ?

[steep hinge]

Yes

[hallow quail]

??

Btw why making golden ed💀

Pov astro and conjuror hater but loves ed

[steep hinge]

Cool
Good
Was my first epic

[tawdry pawn]

Ed was advanced of corr

[flat blade]

For the love of god

Don't make swamp adv

[steep hinge]

Its prolly gonna be nightmare wolf

[hallow quail]

Oh rly??

Didn't know that

[flat blade]

Well Philip himself said, that he would like it as a shadow adv

[steep hinge]

Wtf

[tawdry pawn]

Swamp must be advanced of

[steep hinge]

True

[tawdry pawn]

Yeah, the logic was that corr advanced were killers that mess up with info and e det... Gets info? Idk what they were thinking honestly

[hallow quail]

Make ls new base role and swamp advanced

🫶

[hollow elk]

Locksmith???

[bitter wadi]

#1212403059888750663 message

[hallow quail]

Yuh

[bitter wadi]

swamp is another reason to not upgrade shadow

[flat blade]

Edet being adv of corr is something I never understood

There is no correlation whatsoever

[hollow elk]

and are reason to not upgrade

[flat blade]

The only scenario where I think base is better than adv

[steep hinge]

WAIT A SECOND SWAMP WOLF IS CONFIRMED TO BE ADDED NEXT UPDATE?

[hollow elk]

It means that a game can have , , and may be in the same game 🤣🤣🤣

3 useless roles in one team

[steep hinge]

Both made by the same person btw except shadow wolf

[hollow elk]

Just think about a - - - WW team

[steep hinge]

@low dagger

[tawdry pawn]

Add sorc to the mix and you got a game with 4 regular wolves

[tranquil comet]

swamp is adv of what

it was shaman right

[flat blade]

Sww

Apparently

[steep hinge]

Phillipp wanted it to be advanced of shadow

[tranquil comet]

lol

[flat blade]

A "lol" from Sir Felneus is not a good sign.

[steep hinge]

Now tww and swamp ww can be related

[tranquil comet]

ig it makes sense, extra votes (but they're fake so it doesn't matter), and a push button to disable chat (partially, like how shadow partially disables votes, hides them)

[winged lava]

tbh i was waiting swamp to be under nww

[tranquil comet]

power difference is obviously dumb, but the role tree has some logic to it, I see where philipp was coming from with that

[winged lava]

idk why

[steep hinge]

Same

[flat blade]

Sww still dominates

Swamp is just dust in the sand compared to it

[tawdry pawn]

I truly was hoping Swamp being advanced of regular ww, it would be unique

[hollow elk]

In Quick game ,

Because there is - - - compo ,

We can have the WORST WW COMPO EVER :

- - -

[winged lava]

sorc in qg

is basically

throw

since no rrv's you can only cc aura or whatever idk

[tranquil comet]

the worst ww comp but qg villagers will have epilepsy playin the game xDDD, add shaman instead of alpha cuz why not

[tawdry pawn]

Unless theres no green seer

[winged lava]

well seer is only in 1-2 lines so it really doesnt matter much in qg

[hollow elk]

Just think about a - - - 😂😂😂

Villagers can't understand nothing

[brittle drift]

just don't cc you'll be checked as good anyway if no ig

[winged lava]

well at late game maybe claim scapegoat roles like such bg dok sum qg ppl will believe if checked good

qg ppl also have a hard time in games

[brittle drift]

never really understood wolfflu players

maybe i just need to experience a wolfflu on my team?

[hallow quail]

That could be a good gamemode

[next cedar]

Tbh its treated the same way people play swamp

[winged lava]

well there is a smart wflu player and the dumb one we usually see

[next cedar]

Use votes to cause a mislynch

Tho it is a bit better in niche scenarios

[hollow elk]

If comes to the game 👀

[next cedar]

Yeah but its really a similar problem to hh

Mislynching a villager can easily be punished

[burnt ginkgo]

I can if you still need it.

[prisma pollen]

Ok ! I’ll ping u when I’m available

[lyric sedge]

No the other one

[hallow quail]

The pride is better

[burnt ginkgo]

Ok. I am from the Philippines. Which one will you use so that I can be the opposite?

[hallow quail]

U don't use heart paci 😬

[olive prism]

Why did they voted for ? Ww in #dev-vote... The others are better.

[dapper walrus]

🤷‍♂️

[worn marten]

baby

[olive prism]

awe

[dapper walrus]

👀

[bitter wadi]

they're either gonna flame because swamp exists or be calm

[olive prism]

I'm sure it's just a change to custom game random roles categories

Or in qg sb

Nothing interesting

[prisma pollen]

I can be the girl, dm me when u’re ready!

[flat blade]

This bp is gonna be such a huge disappointment if they don't release any roles at all

[steep hinge]

Fr

[burnt ginkgo]

Ok I'll be the boy. I already DM you for my ID.

[tawdry pawn]

I rather no roles than* forcing bad roles inside the game. Perhaps they put more roles in testing to compensate

[prisma pollen]

if we trade the march calendar right now, will we still get the ee ?

[dawn cairn]

yah it's always written below the gifting item

[prisma pollen]

oh ok nice

[vestal shale]

Any 4th icon has came to the light?

[dapper walrus]

don't think so yet

[vestal shale]

Erh

[hallow quail]

@vestal shale

[dapper walrus]

E

[vestal shale]

?

[vestal shale]

@thick arrow

#item-previews

[hallow quail]

Wtf is that

[solid abyss]

Meh nice

[hallow quail]

It's so useless uh💀💀💀

Funny tho

[solid abyss]

This is good 👍

[hallow quail]

💀?

No

[solid abyss]

Male version 💀

[hallow quail]

Imagine gl or flagger as a man

[solid abyss]

Ghost lady is man

Ghost sir maybe better name

💀

[solid abyss]

For people who gonna call mes sexist we talk about "male" versions

[bitter wadi]

grannys husband

[flat blade]

I remember the mafia update had no "New Role" Announcement on discord. They only released toxic ww to, I guess, satisfy the community. If 2 is not new roles, we're gonna get one role only or no role at all because two new added roles will always be in #dev-vote. Therefore, I shall qualify this bp as mid/terrible

[solid abyss]

BRO no male outfit 💀

12 female 4 male 3 no gender

Like eh?

[hallow quail]

As if u use bp skins

[flat blade]

Wdym

What are you referring to

[tropic blade]

wts

[hollow elk]

If there is not any rework / buff / nerf for any existing role AND there is one role , this BP is AWFUL

[hollow elk]

didn't satisfy the community at all , the role was terrible

It's easily the worst role of 2023

With

I think 2024 is going to be like 2023 : beginning with nice role and finish with terrible role

Remember early 2023 : , , and then finished with , and

For 2024 , it will be difficult to do better than , and may be too

[bitter wadi]

i think siren got buffed lmao,i didnt get entrance message

[hollow elk]

Do you think it's a buff ??

It's not a bit buff

It makes it more similar to sk now

[vagrant drift]

A tree, evergreen and tall, used for bows and arrows, a piece of me can poison you all.

[hollow elk]

Knowing you are entranced was the only thing that makes it closer to

[flat blade]

I agree

Let's just wait for 2 to be revealed

[bitter wadi]

[tawdry pawn]

Well >>>>> +
So I think it's easy actually

[wooden nexus]

Scribe is better

[flat blade]

I love anarchist but scribe and lurker were such good additions to the game

Way better than anar

[tawdry pawn]

Scribe and lurker are ok but anarchist is way better

[noble willow]

If swap actually releases

[flat blade]

I have to see your reaction

That'll be priceless

[hollow elk]

If swamp is advanced of shadow WW ❌

[noble willow]

If swamp is the advanced of anything

sucks either way

[hollow elk]

If advanced of Alpha ? It's okay

If advanced of storm , it's okay too

But for it's bad , it's terrible

and I prefer don't talk about

I don't know how they could have tough that could be advanced 😫

[dawn cairn]

Try

[tawdry pawn]

Not if advanced of regular ww

[hollow elk]

Siren hasn't been buffed see

They see they are sirened

[steep hinge]

Toxic Wolf is W

[solid abyss]

I use 💀 them

[hallow quail]

Oui oui

[hallow quail]

@steady quiver in ur game

[steady quiver]

😂😂i was afk

[hollow elk]

😂

[hollow elk]

Add 'baguette' and it's the perfect stereotype

[steady quiver]

dont forget about croissant

[hollow elk]

With the English pronunciation 😫

English people doesn't know how to pronounce croissant it's terrible

For french weird translation I forgot "storm wolf" which is "Loup-Ragan" in french

[hallow quail]

The way u use simple items when we traded 4 skins together 😠 dude u have 2 beautiful ee

[ashen canopy]

Has anyone got info on what the bday calendar actually contains, please?

Aside from priest icon

[steady quiver]

I find simple shirts so attractive

feels real😂😂

[latent jewel]

Look at upcoming clothing

[hallow quail]

What about the bg

[steady quiver]

bg?

[hallow quail]

Background

This

[steady quiver]

Yes

I equipped it

Now

[hallow quail]

Hmm okay then

[solid abyss]

Umm?!?!?

What is this

And why this is needed?

[lone spade]

It’s basically just a way for you to keep your xp

[solid abyss]

But it says we get penalt

?

[lone spade]

Before:
Let’s say you have to win as Gunner. You join a game, you become gunner, you die and leave to join another game.
If the game you originally joined was a village win, means your quest got finished, you would get the xp for that quest on the game. But with -25%

Now:
The quest will update; so you won as gunner and finished it, but you will get the xp for the quest if you finish a game/stay til the end.

[lone spade]

no, those quests will no longer receive this

[solid abyss]

Ah

Okay

[lone spade]

it’s basically just: you only get the xp for a quest if you finished it and stay until the end of a game

so nothing bad towards players. More beneficial for us

[solid abyss]

Its still give -25% if I stay untile the end for dobule 🥹

And leave to another game

[lone spade]

what do you mean

[solid abyss]

Lets says I die early and get bored of waiting and open discord for short period of time 20-30 sec and If I came back if the game end I get penalty of -25% cause of Im in another app

Even I dead early

And stay avfter last sec

[proud crescent]

what do we get for exchanging the new calendar? pls ping

[solid abyss]

🙃

[solid abyss]

Priest

[lone spade]

that would probably fall under leave early here since it’s the same treatment

[solid abyss]

Icon

[lone spade]

but can ask

[solid abyss]

Yeah but its unfair

[proud crescent]

wait this isn’t in the calendar normally?

[solid abyss]

Imo

[solid abyss]

?

All 31 items + gift icon of priest

[proud crescent]

i thought the priest icon is a normal calendar reward and not for exchanging:(

[lone spade]

to be shown as afk you have to be longer outside of the app than 30 seconds.

I literally tested that once 😅 + it kind of is fair imo. You’re not in the app - means afk.

[solid abyss]

If you go an app and stay more than 5 sec when you come back your game will froze 10-15 sec so it will be count in off time so if can guess we are not chek ping in 5 sec I will grt auto penalty no mater what I wait

[solid abyss]

Yeah but Im dead why I get penalty as a dead player?

[latent jewel]

Thiss if I die day one but am about to finish a challenge or smth I just acroll tiktok waiting for the game to end

[lone spade]

a short game freeze doesn’t mean you appeared as offline afaik. It takes some time until you appear as that.

[lone spade]

that’s the same as leaving early then

[teal ravine]

#dev-vote message nice another useless role

[lone spade]

fair but then I recommend checking the game‘s state occasionally to avoid being offline at the end

[latent jewel]

Ain't no way it's a swamp solo release

LMFAOOOO

[wooden nexus]

Swamp Wolf

[teal ravine]

Are they running out of idea or sth

[lyric hare]

Knew it

Only swamp

[willow zealot]

Nightmare?

Don't tell me it's getting reworked immediately before release

[lyric hare]

glad they dont add 2 new roles every season, this kinda seems to prevent adding roles by force

[latent jewel]

So we getting swamp, a lil change to the way u get quest xp, year metal thingys and a crazy gamemode... kinda underwhelming

[latent jewel]

True tho

[willow zealot]

That'd go down so well cough cough

[lyric hare]

still looking back at ft🫡😅

[wooden nexus]

Worst role of the year

[teal ravine]

damn how strong the advanced wws are

[wooden nexus]

Rm next🗣️

[latent jewel]

What's swamp adv of

[olive prism]

NO

[wooden nexus]

Nmww

[teal ravine]

Nm

[flat blade]

Solo release? We are protesting with this one! 🔥 🗣️

[hollow elk]

😭😭😭

[wooden nexus]

Imagine if the second role was rm

Or even worse, gentle wolf

[flat blade]

@steep hinge mid, possibly even trash bp

[teal ravine]

😡😡

[hollow elk]

Why not adding

[gentle patio]

Butcher before the rework

[dapper walrus]

why swamp :/

[teal ravine]

Still testing

[wooden nexus]

Butcher was astro but with two new moons

[gentle patio]

Yep

[wooden nexus]

Knew swamp was coming since its release

[dapper walrus]

at least it isn't gentle ig

[wooden nexus]

Nmww is in rotation in qg now

[lyric hare]

Nah, we dont. Dont push it. If the roles arent balanced, dont add them. Its useless to have 3 new roles and each of them unbalanced

[wooden nexus]

That was the confirm

[teal ravine]

Yey free lynchs

[tame warren]

Guys where is the new bp role icons?

[lyric hare]

They should separate storm swamp tbf

[coarse wolf]

Swamp wolf sucks so bad it takes the social deduction out of the social deduction game cuz no one can talk

[dapper walrus]

no leak yet

[latent jewel]

What on earth is this monstrosity

[wooden nexus]

Not announced yet

[gentle patio]

So nww will have 3 advanced roles now?

[dapper walrus]

old zb icon im pretty sure

[wooden nexus]

But some icons got leaked

[wooden nexus]

True

[lyric hare]

even tho storm s kinda my fave from.nww tree

[wooden nexus]

Another useless advanced role that Will ruin my collection🗣️

Bomber can wait, i am getting swamp next

[dapper walrus]

🗣️

[wooden nexus]

Let's go!!

[flat blade]

Gentlemen. I don't know about you, but I'm getting it for free

[wooden nexus]

Best update ever

[dapper walrus]

E

[teal ravine]

Skipping this season

[dapper walrus]

two mythical card 😭

[wooden nexus]

Time to go back to minecraft

This season will be too good that i won't play it

[lyric hare]

Lol why do yall hate abt the update when you havent even seen the full part of it

[wooden nexus]

Swamp wolf announced, season ruined

[latent locust]

🥱

[lyric hare]

noone forces you to play

[dapper walrus]

lol

[hollow elk]

I AM REALLY ANGRY , IS GOT ME ONE OF THE WORST ROLE OF WOLVESVILLE BY FAR

This will be a bad BP and a bad season.

[latent jewel]

I will ruthlessly bully everyone that uses swamp ig

[flat blade]

Let's be real. New roles are the best part about each bp

[hollow elk]

is USELESS

[lyric hare]

NAHH role icons

[buoyant axle]

I don't even get why they're hiding the EXP one. It was just announced in-game. And they always announce a new Crazy Game with these. The voting is arbitrary, just release the updates.

[hollow elk]

Yeah that's why this will be terrible

[wooden nexus]

But they did a solo release

[lyric hare]

Kind of tired of the "WE NEED MORE ROLES"

[wooden nexus]

And swamp is terrible

[teal ravine]

Damn didn't see this shit

[latent locust]

How to win as swamp

Step 1: Choose

[teal ravine]

Cool icon, -1/10

[flat blade]

They don't offer any variety though. It's just "Oh, I look cooler now". May be exciting for the first two games

[lyric hare]

choose

[wooden nexus]

How to swamp:
Step 1: get swamp
Step 2: sacrifice it to get gold bomber

[hollow elk]

If you don't it's too late , don't upgrade anymore

[lyric hare]

best ww role

[wooden nexus]

I have every single ww and my collection is about to be ruined again

[lyric hare]

just requires more skill

[dapper walrus]

💀

[teal ravine]

Sandbox mfs : lets take a screenshot and ruin the ww

[lyric hare]

Nah skill issue

fake aura

shuffle

fprget your info

[dapper walrus]

does people really take screen shot for storm 💀

[lyric hare]

Have someone else remember it

Blame them afterwards

[buoyant axle]

Do you upgrade the WW cards or just the Village ones? Because that's what I aimed for, Village first, SV for duality, and then maybe WWs if I care enough about them.

[lyric hare]

Best strat

[teal ravine]

Yes, they cant remember who they were 1 sec ago

[latent jewel]

Swamp trembling when aura says 12b

[dapper walrus]

that is a crazy skill issue

[flat blade]

Taking screenshots for a role is so cringe

[dapper walrus]

^

[lyric hare]

yeahh

true

but storm has the best valuw

[dapper walrus]

couldn't have said better

[latent jewel]

Ngl playing this game is kinda cringe yet here I am

[lyric hare]

I kinda feel like nww vww are weak

[wooden nexus]

I have like 50 adv roles

Every solo (except bomber), every ww, and a lot of villagers + fool card

[teal ravine]

The actual reason why storm is good is the fact that most mfs go out and watch some YouTube shorts

[tawdry pawn]

Ture, I rather copy paste msgs

[hollow elk]

Are you really going to upgrade for ???

[latent jewel]

I'll have all advanced roles when I get to upgrade in the birthday event :3 slay veteran cards

[wooden nexus]

Of course i am

[lyric hare]

Of course

[wooden nexus]

And i will have to equip it

[tawdry pawn]

Ngl I expected nothing and yet they somehow disappointed me

[hollow elk]

Wow...

[lyric hare]

i lack 2 adv roles, i will.complete the collection

[tawdry pawn]

I truly hoped we got no roles this season

[lone spade]

@buoyant axle I deleted that. Stay appropriate in the chat.

[lyric hare]

Same

[flat blade]

Same. I set my expectations purposely low yet they still got me in tears

[tawdry pawn]

Yet we got another unbalanced role

[lyric hare]

I was hoping they would give me some balance changes instead

[wooden nexus]

Imagine a hole in the middle of this

[hallow quail]

It's a good idea!

[dapper walrus]

so much advanced i couldn't get 😢

[latent jewel]

LUPO SCRIBA

[teal ravine]

Do ppls still play fartwolf

[latent jewel]

Adorable

[hollow elk]

THEY TROLLED US AGAIN

[wooden nexus]

How

[dapper walrus]

wdym

[tawdry pawn]

The best they can do now is put storm and swamp in another tree and remove them from rotation until both get a proper rework

[hollow elk]

November 2023 ,

[dapper walrus]

toxic ww is way too rare

[wooden nexus]

It happened again

[lyric hare]

Storm is good as it is

[hallow quail]

Why making worst roles purple

[dapper walrus]

like i saw only three real toxic ww player after the update

[teal ravine]

And yet stupid asf

[flat blade]

Scribe and conf are pretty good and about nww. I did it for the thrill of it

[wooden nexus]

I have toxic only for my stupid collection

[tawdry pawn]

Emm no, that role is trash honestly

Copy paste and you turn it into regular ww

[hallow quail]

Storm >>

[wooden nexus]

The worst part about them introducing swamp is that i will have to equip it and use it

[lyric hare]

as i said, thats a skill issue then

[flat blade]

Storm wolf my beloved

[lyric hare]

highest ww win rate is storm

For me

[tawdry pawn]

Copy paste ain't skill

[dapper walrus]

let's hope that the new challenge are good

[lyric hare]

you just dont play it right then

[hollow elk]

Why why ...

[lyric hare]

Dont shuffle for defense

Shuffle offensively

[wooden nexus]

Nothing can save this update

[tawdry pawn]

I don't but whenever someone does I turn it into regular ww by copy pasting my info

[dapper walrus]

this chat getting wild

[flat blade]

The role icons could

[latent jewel]

They kinda already revealed that they just change the way u get challenge xp sometimes

[dapper walrus]

could be 🤷‍♂️

[wooden nexus]

Those icons are the only thing that i want to see

[buoyant axle]

Getting rid of BP Coins would be a good start.

[teal ravine]

New chall : win with an alpha newbie in team for 3 games (impossible)

[dapper walrus]

there are new challenge

[wooden nexus]

But it's already ruined

[lyric hare]

well, thats the bad storm style

[dapper walrus]

from some leak

[flat blade]

Oh true. We can't even get every icon

[wooden nexus]

🗣️ this can't go worse 🗣️

[hollow elk]

- will still be fun but... isn't a good role

[dapper walrus]

like playing playing item that tag as black or play advanced villager role or something

[tawdry pawn]

Just say "x player is alpha, y player is good, GatoLeyo is seer" before and after the storm

[teal ravine]

Stoobid wolf

[lyric hare]

I agree, swamp needs buff, but storm.is fine

[flat blade]

At least the outfits are good?

[tawdry pawn]

No possible defense against that

[hollow elk]

2024 begins really bad , and tested , added ...

I think it will be difficult to do better than

[lyric hare]

Works against defense shuffle, yes

[flat blade]

I'm really trying to make up something positive about this update but it's really difficult

[lyric hare]

You just dont know the good strategies

[wooden nexus]

Imagine if it was a double release

[teal ravine]

Fake vote rng maybe, some mfs still fall for this

[dapper walrus]

💀

[wooden nexus]

Would be even worse

[lyric hare]

offense is best defense. Fake aura and call someone evil, then instant shuffle🤷‍♂️

[wooden nexus]

Next update: rm and spy

Or just rm

[dapper walrus]

not rm

[hollow elk]

😭

[arctic brook]

im so dissapointed

that swamp is released

[teal ravine]

Just like everyone else here

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-drama-drama-argument-political-gif-24419538

[hollow elk]

and = Worst uptade ever

[dapper walrus]

i feel like the testing role are either too strong or too weak

[wooden nexus]

This update couldn't go worse

[lyric hare]

AHAHA they wont add either i hope

[dapper walrus]

i mean it is testing

[tawdry pawn]

Nobody does apparently, whenever storm is in my match I destroy it

[hollow elk]

is okay

was ok too

[buoyant axle]

All of them except for the last one. It isn't awful, it just isn't mythology-based. It's Snow White. But compared to the rest of the submissions, I can see why it was chosen. They're good outfits, the two icons I've seen were Egyptian related and done well. The single items haven't been revealed yet, but they should be good too if they aren't heavily gendered like last BPs where they were all masculine.

[wooden nexus]

There were roles like astro and conju and then there is gentle wolf and rm

[latent jewel]

Anar >>>

[pearl heart]

swamp is so bad, they should accept my nightmare werewolf advanced roles instead :3

[tawdry pawn]

That "offensive" strat is solved by copy paste too

[lyric hare]

Well i do, as i said, storm is a matter of skill

[lyric hare]

nah

absolutely not

[dapper walrus]

still haven't got to really play with anarchist :(

[pearl heart]

anarchist is fun

[hallow quail]

Oh no swamp

[teal ravine]

Get premium talis

😁😁👍👍

[dapper walrus]

too poor for that

[tawdry pawn]

I've never seen any storm wolf useful against my copy paste strat

[dapper walrus]

and isn't really worth my gem tbh

[wooden nexus]

1 day and some hours left before the big update 🗣️

[hollow elk]

buff :

Ability of manipulate vote : 1-->2
Aura : Evil but when he floods village , he become Unknow the following night

[teal ravine]

Just play 1y + a few weak and there you go a premium talis 👍👍👍

[lyric hare]

As i said, i win 1/2 storm games

[flat blade]

Let's pray and hope

[dapper walrus]

as said still not worth my gem

[tawdry pawn]

Then you face really bad players

[hollow elk]

I think a good fix to and = both become Unknow.

[sage jackal]

And make them a whole new tree

[buoyant axle]

How do you feel about the new Clan Quests? That's something at least.

[tawdry pawn]

And remove them from rotation

[dapper walrus]

swamp and storm really deserve a tree for themself

[wooden nexus]

Just erase them from this game

[lyric hare]

you fake aura, you shuffle, you "forget" your info, someone else remembers it, you say youre "not sure" and then later you blame the person who remembered right for fake passing your info. Its a very easy way to get rid of villagers

[lyric hare]

Maybe you face bad players

seems like noone is skilled enough to see the value of storm

[wooden nexus]

All the hype went down in 10 minutes

Lol

[noble willow]

Storm shouldn't get a buff

[flat blade]

They're good but generic. Not too much, but still better than nothing eh?

[wooden nexus]

Swamp announced, update ruined

[noble willow]

Devs can't buff roles

[lyric hare]

Nah, its really fine

[tawdry pawn]

I faced storm players that use your "strat" , destroyed

[noble willow]

[noble willow]

Storm is ass

[lyric hare]

cool

[flat blade]

Swamp is real now @noble willow

[noble willow]

Pre nerf zb is better than swamp bro

[lyric hare]

i didnt ask for yalls opinions

I like it

[noble willow]

Stop gaslighting urself

[lyric hare]

i see no reason why you should remove it

[sage jackal]

Pre nerf was broken wasn't it? 😂

[tranquil comet]

why nww adv tho now i can’t do the storm and swamp combo nooooo

[noble willow]

At least it's original

[buoyant axle]

Is there anything that saves Swamp from being awful?

[wooden nexus]

Storm and swamp combo is crazy

[tawdry pawn]

Not to mention storm shuffles only two players sometimes 💀

[noble willow]

Nope

[lyric hare]

Im.just the kind of a person that prefers skill over pure power bruh, that wolffluencer role is way more unbalanced than storm

[noble willow]

Buffs can't save swamp

[flat blade]

It denies role calling + it's unique

[noble willow]

Swamp has 0 skill

Sry

[lyric hare]

I dont talk abt swamp

[pearl heart]

it's just annoying overall 😮

[tranquil comet]

it denies role calling for 1 day 😂😂

[wooden nexus]

Swamp buff: instead of sending 3 letter messages you can only send💦

[tranquil comet]

besides

u can just say bh

[buoyant axle]

Can't wait to see your flood of Swamp reworks. Are you working on any rn?

[noble willow]

People don't even rolecall

[tranquil comet]

or like doc

[wooden nexus]

And instead of faking 3 votes it fakes 5

[tranquil comet]

or like uh

fc

[noble willow]

Swamp shouldn't exist

[tranquil comet]

RC = role call

[olive prism]

What is next #dev-vote info ?

[wooden nexus]

New challenges maybe

[noble willow]

Changes aren't changing swamp's ability to remove the core of the game that isn't information

[tranquil comet]

I honestly have no clue what #4 is although

[tawdry pawn]

Nww and voodoo: roleblock tree
Shaman and advanced: deceiving tree
Wolf seer and advanced: info tree
Storm and swamp: annoying and useless tree once you get use to them

[noble willow]

Probably another generic crazy mode

[wooden nexus]

New daily challenge: win as solo killer when coupled with a strong villager while doing 20 backflips on the moon

[pearl heart]

#dev-vote message this is just better than swamp, accept this ingame instead and thank me later :3

[tranquil comet]

apparently its a game mode with no protectors setup and last will but theres gonna be smth else idk

[lyric hare]

WoV truecrime podcast🤣

[tranquil comet]

i don’t think its anything worth putting in #dev-vote however

[flat blade]

Astro still isn't nerfed so don't think the devs will ever separate swamp/storm from the nww tree

[tranquil comet]

that would be interesting

[arctic brook]

sadly no birbie

[lyric hare]

or maybe they giving us streams or game reviews

[pearl heart]

well they separated nightmare-wolf shaman when wolf shaman had three advanced (before confusion and scribe)

[wooden nexus]

4 is a crazy gamemode

[pearl heart]

so they could separate storm-nightmare, make swamp storm adv and keep voodoo as nightmare advanced

[lyric hare]

"underdog village" sounds like you have a comeback

[hollow elk]

could be fine in tree

#1212505494791651338

[finite nest]

What the hell. Out of all the good roles avaible they managed to choose the worst one

[tranquil comet]

underdog village probably just means a setup where village has bad odds although that can be said for a lot of setups really. the icon on #4 is 100% the loading screen if you play the mode it can’t be anything else

[hollow elk]

was worse for me

[olive prism]

Why do people want astro nerf ? Stoping ww for ONE night is enough...

[buoyant axle]

REZYYYYYY, I'M SO SORRY ABOUT OUR CALL PLANS! LIFE GOT ICKY AND BLEH AND I HAD TO POOF FOR A BIT. Do you want the new Cal to make up for it? Do you want some loves and hugs? What you need bb? Sugar Birbie is here.

[quick marsh]

and a single role at that

[wooden nexus]

It could go even worse

[hollow elk]

But yeah is disappointing

[lyric hare]

Tbf i say its the best of the bad roles they offered lol. Spy and rm are useless

[quick marsh]

holy crap

[noble willow]

Swamp is worse than rm by a mile

[quick marsh]

was NOT balanced

[finite nest]

at least they are not annoying

[latent jewel]

Sheriff and rl used to be in the same tree too right

[flat blade]

That's biased

[noble willow]

Not the point

[olive prism]

Rm is the worse

[lyric hare]

Thats right, because they have no value at all lol

[noble willow]

Rm is boring? Sure, and swamp ruins the fun for 15 other players

[quick marsh]

it is the point

[buoyant axle]

Yep and then we got Vio.

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[dapper walrus]

🎻

[tranquil comet]

a role designed to ruin fun? im in

[pearl heart]

it was rl-gl-sheriff and aura-gambler-ss-vio, but they made sheriff-vio a separate family

[quick marsh]

its not balanced, nothing but annoying weak role

[pearl heart]

this^

[noble willow]

People are gonna go in quick game

[teal ravine]

Unskilled, click and win

[noble willow]

And make new players quit the game

And laugh

[arctic brook]

i would likr the new cal ifur offering im broke rn 🥺

[lyric sedge]

Any new leaks bout icons??

[tranquil comet]

please don’t call me out, thanks

[wooden nexus]

Nope

[quick marsh]

not the point of the tree

[arctic brook]

it was the least balanced role tested so far besides maybe

[noble willow]

There's the 88p message

[wooden nexus]

That's the only thing i wanted to see

[tawdry pawn]

Well there's only one positive thing about this update so far, it opens the possibility of removing storm from nww tree and locking that role out of rotation until is fixed

[arctic brook]

idk how its chosen over the other options

ngl

[noble willow]

Storm wolf's point is ruining begginers wdym

[lyric sedge]

Ye no i aint trying to understand that pixely leak

[teal ravine]

[arctic brook]

it was balanced for adv

[quick marsh]

ikrr
most people would be fine with

[noble willow]

Storm wolf can't do anything in a half experienced lobby

[buoyant axle]

OF COURSE HONEY!!! 🥺💜 I'll buy some gems tonight or in the morning and maybe we can play! I've missed you sm!!!

[quick marsh]

neither can swamp

[wooden nexus]

Maybe this was a leak

[quick marsh]

nww officially has the worst advanceds now 😂

[noble willow]

Why is siren upside down

[wooden nexus]

Nobody knows

[buoyant axle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-hair-spongebob-haircut-windy-seahorse-gif-17297545

[wooden nexus]

This update couldn't go worse

[quick marsh]

any other leaks?

[arctic brook]

is good... the others... yea...

[wooden nexus]

Ss and shaman

[arctic brook]

of course, ill tell u when I get off work

[pearl heart]

oi storm is fun :3

[noble willow]

Everything could go worst

[arctic brook]

i agree

i like storm

[quick marsh]

its the first reveal and it already received enough hate

[arctic brook]

it isnt good tho

lol

[pearl heart]

it's swamp that is shit in every form, also quite literally shit

[quick marsh]

voodoo is weak compared to nww too but...of course not as bad as the other two

[wooden nexus]

Imagine if it was a double release of rm and gentle

[pearl heart]

storm is fun, yeah voodoo is much stronger though

:3

[arctic brook]

I disagree

[noble willow]

New players can't even process how to play medium how do u think they're dealing with

[arctic brook]

harshly

is like, god

😭

[quick marsh]

roleblocking is far stronger than just muting

[pearl heart]

new players fumble as seer, them w/ swamp wolf is just satirical 😭

[arctic brook]

yea but u get 2 mutes

for 1 rb

if it was 1 mute

nmww would be better

[noble willow]

How to kill the playerbase in simple steps

[wooden nexus]

Tomorrow they will probably reveal all the rest

[arctic brook]

but 2 mutes > 1 rb

[pearl heart]

2 mutes = 2 delays whuch is good

[sage jackal]

Now imagine comparing and and they are on same tree

[noble willow]

No

[wooden nexus]

Siren is probably the third one of the second column

[noble willow]

Hell no

[pearl heart]

hello Forza! :3

[olive prism]

looks like it

[quick marsh]

i prefer roleblocking tho so biased

[arctic brook]

dude is so bad bro

[sage jackal]

Heyyy

[sage jackal]

I know

[finite nest]

Also you may decide to mute to get vote advantage

[arctic brook]

its so so so bad

[sage jackal]

I said Imagine

[arctic brook]

yea that tok

[noble willow]

Swamp wolf should be a roleblocker

[pearl heart]

i dont think you recognize me mmm

[arctic brook]

multiple voodoos are oppressive

[wooden nexus]

Ss shaman are confirmed

[sage jackal]

I know who you are dw

[noble willow]

That can't roleblock info

Or focuses on not

[pearl heart]

who :3

[olive prism]

I know I was here yesterday or the day before

[buoyant axle]

Is that golden one above SS this?

[wooden nexus]

I really want to see all the others

[buoyant axle]

Why do I have this saved?

[wooden nexus]

That's not confirmed

[flat blade]

FIRE ICON

[olive prism]

WHERE YOU GET THIS

[arctic brook]

i feel gonna get treatment

[noble willow]

: a middle of both
denies info more than roleblocking
should be a role that roleblocks more than denying info

[wooden nexus]

It has nothing to do with mythology tho

[arctic brook]

it has to be reworked

or buffed

[flat blade]

Why wasn't this in the mafia bp

[arctic brook]

and istg

if swamp gets buffed

[noble willow]

Buff ain't saving a shit concept

[arctic brook]

to 2 floods

there will be issues

[tawdry pawn]

You forget that muting can manipulate voting somehow

[pearl heart]

Agreed, unless the buff is a drastic rework, swamp is unsavable rn :3

[noble willow]

Do the devs even listen to fb

[wooden nexus]

Swamp can only be removed🗣️

[noble willow]

Everyone hated swamp wolf

Srs

[pearl heart]

muting is basically a delay in information being told
2 delays > 1 direct block

[wooden nexus]

The only thing that can save swamp is removing it

Deleting it

[olive prism]

So we have that

[quick marsh]

okay what if swamp muted EVERYONE for a single day

[wooden nexus]

That gold gun is not confirmed

[arctic brook]

thats just annoying

[quick marsh]

holy shit new gunner?

[noble willow]

Anubis shaman icon, BRACE YOURSELVES FURRIES

[pearl heart]

nullifier, bores the game quickly

[olive prism]

Looks similar to the pixels

[hallow quail]

Thought salem drew this icon?

[flat blade]

This is wild. We're getting a horrible calendar. A horrible birthday event and a horrible role

[noble willow]

How to make the game shit

Step 1.

[pearl heart]

fr

[hallow quail]

@dusky perch right?

[quick marsh]

then...skips discussion phase completely

[wooden nexus]

It does but it has nothing to do with mythology

[arctic brook]

also, not role balances

[olive prism]

??? it's just a wolf

[arctic brook]

useless

[noble willow]

The only thing in the calendar worth is the furry hair

[quick marsh]

its not

[noble willow]

Actually it's shot

The calendar is ass

[quick marsh]

still better than what we got rn

[olive prism]

There's an event ?

[noble willow]

Actually so generic

[arctic brook]

true

[quick marsh]

true

[flat blade]

The upcoming birthday event. The icons are absolutely horrendous

[noble willow]

The sk one

[wooden nexus]

Worst update ever

[noble willow]

And the priest one

THE PRIEST ONE LOOKS FANMADE

LIKE SRS

THEY BOTH DO

[buoyant axle]

I DON'T KNOW! It would've been so much better than the Nightmare icon we got.

[quick marsh]

swamp could skip the discussion phase twice per game, slowing down rolecalls and infos

[olive prism]

Oh it's only icon event ?

[flat blade]

The sk one is literally just sk

[arctic brook]

what kinds irks me more

[buoyant axle]

Or was Mafia Vio worse? They were both trash lmao.

[flat blade]

No changes whatsoever

[arctic brook]

than swamp being added

[quick marsh]

sk is sooo basic

[arctic brook]

is the fact

[pearl heart]

still easily combatted, plus is weaker than voodoo and nww

[arctic brook]

there is no balance changes

(so far)

[buoyant axle]

That you're a nub?

[wooden nexus]

Come on what is this

[noble willow]

Wasn't there a siren buff

[tawdry pawn]

The mafia nww is ok, butcher one tho...

[arctic brook]

thats what annoys me a bit more

[arctic brook]

was a bug

[flat blade]

Not rn

[arctic brook]

changelog got us

[flat blade]

But soon

[arctic brook]

🥴

[noble willow]

What u pointing at

[olive prism]

Looks like he's disco dancing

[noble willow]

Even the bugs make better balance changes than the devs

[pearl heart]

don't do my man priest like that 😭

[pearl heart]

so true

[flat blade]

The priest icon is pretty good ngl

[arctic brook]

ikr

[olive prism]

Add hair to priest is better

[arctic brook]

btw

imagine

the riot

if was adv