speculations

[bitter wadi]

WHY THE DISLIKR

[civic trellis]

Mhm.

[marsh wyvern]

So there's swamp wolf, chocolate wolf, donkey wolf and rainmaker?

[coarse thicket]

What is This place

[civic trellis]

The only other one it could've been was made by gentles creator but that one got scrapped.

[daring parcel]

and I'm 200% sure you not want that this happens

[tranquil comet]

im tempted to ping the creator but does someone want to ask him how this role is going to make my village gameplay better

[coarse thicket]

And What do we Speculate??

[civic trellis]

Sadly I've realized my lycan idea got scrapped.

Rip but the devs only like simple roles

[bitter wadi]

haratio targetting me fr

[civic trellis]

Not convoluted ones that take skill.

[coarse thicket]

What is New role Donkey And?

[bitter wadi]

rainmaker

[daring parcel]

so my privateer has no chance?

[real coral]

here's the real question

[flat blade]

@bitter wadi WHAT

[bitter wadi]

#rainmaker

[real coral]

@dusky perch estimated time for the new testing roles?

[bitter wadi]

this

[civic trellis]

No clue. All I know is it was teased alongside gentle here, and then never entered sb.

[coarse thicket]

Ok I read it and

What is like the + Of the rainmaker

[daring parcel]

@civic trellis

[civic trellis]

Most likely mid season.

[marsh wyvern]

What's chocolate wolf i need more information 😭

[tranquil comet]

exactly i dont even get its purpose

[dusky perch]

up to the devs

[coarse thicket]

While fc is useless why we need the Forger version of it

[civic trellis]

You can ask whoever you submitted it to if it got scrapped.

[real coral]

i'll take this with a grain of salt, since it's possible

probably.. 2-3 more weeks

[marsh wyvern]

What does the chocolate wolf do?

[coarse thicket]

Even fc is useless and Now Look at this 💀

[civic trellis]

I'm just basing it off the fact that it's already 2 weeks in. So most likely we may get it this next week.

[daring parcel]

[dusky perch]

give good ppl chocolate

[bitter wadi]

@dusky perch CHOCO WOLF CHOCO WOLF CHOCO WOLF CHOCO WOLF

[coarse thicket]

This is a Type of a Villager That is Beneficial To every team Except Village

[flat blade]

Don't care + ratio + I'll keep using paci

[daring parcel]

I not want my privateer scrapped

[civic trellis]

But ye

Well just ask em.

They can disclose that.

[daring parcel]

it's my best role idea

[real coral]

mid bp is more like when the 7th-9th icons start appearing for me

but i get you

[dusky perch]

swamp wolf is also weak role dont be think much about it

[tranquil comet]

totally not an insti buff 💀

[coarse thicket]

Y E S

[dusky perch]

i would pick shaman rather than swamp

[coarse thicket]

Like This Screams insti buff

[civic trellis]

Also in the past mid bp season is when tests usually happen.

[real coral]

that is why they make this, so you will have rng when gambling for paci

[bitter wadi]

pinky promise that choco wolf is shaman adv

[real coral]

hahaha

[flat blade]

It's not. It's of course gonna get some hype now because it's a new role but just like gentle, it'll be considered trash, absolutely horrendous within a few testing days

[daring parcel]

is swamp donkey wolf?

[cursive brook]

Can't be worse than original storm ww

[coarse thicket]

4 Th Shaman Advanced 😍

[steep hinge]

They didnt add my rt roles L

[dusky perch]

that what creator wanted

[real coral]

it's WOV, anything can happen

[flat blade]

WHAT DOES CHOCO WOLF DO THO

[marsh wyvern]

Choco and swamp is the same thing

[daring parcel]

or what is the abbility?

[bitter wadi]

ehat does it do

[dusky perch]

well its

[tranquil comet]

just put the 2 sticks on your recruit and insti then just vibe, wait for your win, doesn't matter u ded cuz insti still keeps the damn stick

[dusky perch]

let me find link

[bitter wadi]

CHOCO WOLF CHOCO WOLF CHOCO WOLF

[marsh wyvern]

Excuse me?

[bitter wadi]

!!!@

[civic trellis]

Tbh gentle wasn't bad but it also wasn't good enough to be released. And what got added wasn't even the og idea. They had to buff it from its original idea to release and it was still bad.

[bitter wadi]

I WANT CHOCOWOLF

[real coral]

W salem

[coarse thicket]

Yes it is Just a Jelly ww But vill version

[flat blade]

Kid named village killing:

[steep hinge]

Rename it to chocolate wolf

[cursive brook]

Not hating you but idk why storm ww was added

[daring parcel]

@dusky perch

[bitter wadi]

frfr

[real coral]

who tf name their kid that!?!? 🤯

[bitter wadi]

WAIT HES SENDIMG THE LINK

[cursive brook]

Link incoming

[real coral]

must be absolute menaces to society

[marsh wyvern]

No o mean the original storm was op

[bitter wadi]

IM GONNA GET CHOCO WOLF JUST TO FLEX

[tranquil comet]

i mean im getting mythical shaman anyway, i like blackberry flavored chocolate

[coarse thicket]

Choco Gives me a Gww Advanced vibes

[civic trellis]

Storm wws original version was way better. But they nerfed it when it got put in sandbox.

[steep hinge]

Wolfofnether made stubborn and now rainmaker?

[dusky perch]

wait guys can u tell me the meaning of :
"2 b" or "2 g"

[bitter wadi]

ah yes purple swamp

[coarse thicket]

Lets wish This Gww Advanced is Better than Paci ww and Jelly ww

[bitter wadi]

trickster too

[bitter wadi]

send and we will see

[civic trellis]

He also made scribe.

[real coral]

i could explain if it's 2 b 2 t

[cursive brook]

Well, it's game abilities were whack

[bitter wadi]

to be and two gee?

[real coral]

[coarse thicket]

2 Bomber 2 Grumpy Grandma

[tranquil comet]

pretty sure trickster was made from another guy, and i thought about trickster even before the creator did, just as an illu buff

[flat blade]

All old storm did was shuffle two players 💀

[dusky perch]

2 as player number 2 lol

[real coral]

oh huh mmmm

[cursive brook]

Bg?

[real coral]

i hav no ide

[bitter wadi]

lets ask @rapid birch

[dusky perch]

u almost

[marsh wyvern]

That's not the original one. Original one was better flagger but before flagger existed.

[bitter wadi]

saldm cmon

is it 2(b+g)??

[dusky perch]

b for bad g for good i was seer

[tranquil comet]

he made old stub, which was alright

[bitter wadi]

ohhh

[flat blade]

Oooo that one, yeah my bad

[dusky perch]

easy to understand ?

[bitter wadi]

no

[cursive brook]

Sure

[bitter wadi]

COMR ON IM GONNA RIOT

[steep hinge]

"WAHHH this stubborn SUCKS WAHHH"

[bitter wadi]

CHICO WOLF CHICO WOLF CHICO WOLF

[dusky perch]

[steep hinge]

It was alright

[cursive brook]

https://tenor.com/view/link-please-link-need-link-send-link-gif-23141115

[tranquil comet]

wait i think i know what he means

[steep hinge]

Bro send it

[dusky perch]

see thats how swamp is weak role

[short ether]

Cant you put emotes? Like 👁2🐺

[tranquil comet]

u can shaman 2 players once, or make 2 people appear good once

?

[bitter wadi]

eugh no pls

its swamp not swap

[dusky perch]

💀 way worst than that

[real coral]

"sorcerer 2 is wolf"

[steep hinge]

💀💀💀

[bitter wadi]

salem send link

[marsh wyvern]

I think you can only send 1 letter per message

[tranquil comet]

HAHAHAHAHA imagine

[dusky perch]

https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/1101594658544566343

[bitter wadi]

wait doesnit make everyone send 3 messages

[cursive brook]

The only good thing to come from a swamp was Shrek. I don't expect wov to have something better.

[coarse thicket]

Wait Why u guys act Like Choco is the only Problem

[bitter wadi]

I KNEW IT

[flat blade]

Me watching the others constantly waiting for salem to leak (he won't)

[bitter wadi]

SEE I TOLD YOU

[coarse thicket]

Like Rainmaker is 💀

[bitter wadi]

I TOLD YOY IT MAKES PEOPLE SEND 3 MESSAYES I SWEAR TO GOD IM A PSUCHIC

IM A PSYCHIC PRAISE ME

[tranquil comet]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA THE DONKEY WOLF CREATOR WAS COOKING SOMETHING ELSE

[coarse thicket]

Donkey … Not gonna Talk

[flat blade]

Bro

The timing

[steep hinge]

💀

[bitter wadi]

SEE

[real coral]

ritualist is an okay role

there praised

[cursive brook]

Storm wolf number 2

An ability that doesn't actually change votes

And only hinders playing

[steep hinge]

And yet my roles havent been added

[flat blade]

YOOOO that role is fite

Fire

[dusky perch]

u see why i said donkey wolf ahahahah

[bitter wadi]

im feeling so celestial rn

i read the role before it came

[steep hinge]

Culinarian and Extortionist

[cursive brook]

3 is

[tranquil comet]

@coarse thicket bro imagine chocolate wolf in ranked, literally "the shephard"

[steep hinge]

I have multiple reworks for them

[bitter wadi]

cam you send? you did but i forgot probably also with the new discord ui i cant check channels

[dusky perch]

that is 4 letters

[coarse thicket]

What does Choco Do

I can Only imagine Rainmaker

And I imagined enough

[tranquil comet]

paradise on their way to use different keyboards

[bitter wadi]

add fake votes or make everyone send short messages

[steep hinge]

#rt-roles-2022 message

[real coral]

proceed to type in emoji

[coarse thicket]

uhm sadly

[dusky perch]

2 b 2 bad

2 🔴

[cursive brook]

2 b or not 2 b. That is the question

[dusky perch]

2#3

[bitter wadi]

yeah

[coarse thicket]

Nah

[tranquil comet]

ability 1: drown the village for a whole day, each player can only send a message with 3 letters max
ability 2: choose a player, and add a lot of votes onto them in the next voting phase (but the votes have no effect)

[real coral]

3️⃣ 🌪️ 🐺

[coarse thicket]

I am sure

[bitter wadi]

6nw

[real coral]

three letters

haha

[coarse thicket]

3 sends Angry emote

[bitter wadi]

emotes consume 2 letters i think

[cursive brook]

2✓

[bitter wadi]

lmao

[coarse thicket]

2 👺

[real coral]

noOO

[tranquil comet]

EMOJI CODE PLAYERS RISE UP

[coarse thicket]

3 😇

[steep hinge]

Rework:
If the person kills a wolf or fool or any other evil role then they won't feel gulity and won't kys

If its a wolf or a solo or a fool they will NOT feel gulity

[real coral]

nah another ez alt

[coarse thicket]

EMOTE IF YOU CC RRV

[real coral]

3 👎

[dusky perch]

take this now

[cursive brook]

I'm

[marsh wyvern]

3🔪

[bitter wadi]

"16b"
"uhh

[tranquil comet]

ok but heres the thing

guys

[cursive brook]

Now I can't use ' to talk properly

[bitter wadi]

ITS A STICK

[coarse thicket]

💃💋3

[steady quiver]

thats a cool icon

[tranquil comet]

we need to have storm wolf and chocolate wolf in the same game

chocolate storm

[bitter wadi]

you're turns into u'r

[real coral]

that is NOT family friendly

what do you mean the entire village is flooded in CHOCOLATE

[tranquil comet]

i just realised rainmaker counters swamp wolfs second skill which is ironic

[steep hinge]

Rainmaker is ok

[tranquil comet]

swamp wolf adds 8 votes onto player 1
player 1 holding the dead rainmakers stick: TRY ME BISH

[bitter wadi]

swamp wolf is probably gonna be shadow adv

[dusky perch]

so if 16 red u cant say 16🔴

[steep hinge]

Devs never buff a role before adding it

[real coral]

this is making feeling powerful

[steep hinge]

Fr

[dusky perch]

and one time per game so wont matter

[coarse thicket]

I GOT SCAMMED I AM NOT VOTING GUNNER

[cursive brook]

So unfair

[real coral]

i want it to be real that your opinions are also illusions

[tranquil comet]

can u use both abilities on the same day

[steep hinge]

Kww and Storm Wolf is better 💀💀💀

[cursive brook]

You can say info about 3 but not about 16 or two digit numbers

[dusky perch]

unless u play with lvl10 ppl who sus people random voting even when they see wolffluncer in game

[bitter wadi]

16r

[steep hinge]

Another day, another L wolf role

[dusky perch]

probably

[tranquil comet]

:swamp-wolf:

[steep hinge]

I wanna post that to yt and rant on it

[cursive brook]

Vot

[steep hinge]

Fr

[bitter wadi]

why are they adding vote roles that are mid nowadays lol

[dusky perch]

as swamp base yes

[cursive brook]

Literally

[bitter wadi]

first gentle now choco

[cursive brook]

I'd agree

[tranquil comet]

rainmaker literally makes zero sense, at least i can troll people with swamp wolf

[cursive brook]

Now have no setups with either and I'm glad

[bitter wadi]

atleast it has no ww counterpart

[dusky perch]

to not random reveal doc i agree lol

[real coral]

they will replace forky when they appear

[bitter wadi]

..yet

[real coral]

let that sink in

[tranquil comet]

why would i need to save twice

[bitter wadi]

wait is this supposed to be yhe gentleww cc

[cursive brook]

Give stick to seer. Give stick to aura. Shadow werewolf all game :(

[steep hinge]

WolfOfNether: rainmaker cooking

Whilst is good, but they burnt the food now

[tranquil comet]

DONKEY WOLF PERSON MADE FART WOLF MIGHT I ADD

BRO MADE TOXIC WOLF AND CHOCOLATE WOLF

BRO IS GONNA FOOD POISON SOMEONE

[steep hinge]

Toxic wolf is good

[real coral]

fart on someone*

and straight up poison through air

[steep hinge]

They both have their ups and downs

[real coral]

toxic only down

[steep hinge]

No theyre both equal in strength imo

[real coral]

the player gets untoxicated when toxic dies 🔥 🚒

[tranquil comet]

honestly don't have good hopes for March update to be fair

imma just get my anniversary icons and dip probs

[steep hinge]

#addculinarianandextortionist

[real coral]

self promotion?

[steep hinge]

I swear if anyone complains abt my roles i will swear word at them /j

[tranquil comet]

i have rework for spy/anar/LS and just evaluating some gentlewolf ones but idk

u saw them alr so ye

[steep hinge]

Rainmaker is good

[tranquil comet]

at least they fit the theme

cuz its rainy.. and swamps are rainy

and its January

actually april makes more sense no

[real coral]

at least completely new roles 🔥

and not recycled from before roles

[steep hinge]

#rt-roles-2022 message #rt-roles-2022 message

[tranquil comet]

we got storm wolfs brother W

yknow what y'all

[steep hinge]

Add these roles

[tranquil comet]

they should replace the rain weather from unleashed elements

with the drowning skill

W

[steep hinge]

@phallap @flouoo take notes

[real coral]

you will be able to drown from poop mud chocolate in WOV soon 🔥

[steep hinge]

💀

How

[tranquil comet]

sad we aren't getting chocolate jelly

[steep hinge]

Fr

Jinx

[tranquil comet]

at least they can make choco milkshake alch instead

[steep hinge]

[tranquil comet]

plspls

[bitter wadi]

isnt it 2 kpn

[steep hinge]

Yeah but i have a nerf

[bitter wadi]

unless im understanding things wrong

[tranquil comet]

make the black part chocolate

and the red part milk

[steep hinge]

Rework:
If the person kills a wolf or fool or any other evil role then they won't feel gulity and won't kys

If its a wolf or a solo or a fool they will NOT feel gulity

[coarse thicket]

Ok I have a great idea

[coarse thicket]

if jelly wolf Jellies Choco Wolf they Turn into Chocolate Pudding and Win instantly

[steep hinge]

Hypostein winter role icons:

[tranquil comet]

IM DEMANDING THIS ICON RIGHT NO

[steep hinge]

Did you say it to someone

[marsh wyvern]

Then how is it gonna kill ww or fool?

[tranquil comet]

have hot chocy

[steep hinge]

They select a person

To kill

The selected player

[flat blade]

The flood ability sounds so fun to use

Can't wait

The hell are you supposed to say as seer when you checked stubborn

While flood

[tranquil comet]

i dont think u can drown everyone D1 so as long as you claimed seer

then say u checked stub N2

just spam your vote on stub

vill will know what u mean

[daring parcel]

a fine wolf

[daring parcel]

meh and just copy paste

[flat blade]

It's gonna look so goofy watching others trying to pronounce ww terms with only three letters though

[tranquil comet]

basically the anti blackmailer fr

[flat blade]

6sw

[tranquil comet]

just say, "4ww"

[flat blade]

Oh right I forgot about the simple method

[tranquil comet]

or idk

[flat blade]

Bad role. Uninstalling

[tranquil comet]

"9rk"

[tranquil comet]

just install a different keyboard, free counter

[flat blade]

"6fo"

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[tropic blade]

role that doesnt reward you for proper plays most of the times and punishes you too hard for playing badly, better not using the ability most of the times, so fc advanced

[tropic blade]

useless role, so storm ww advanced

gaming

unless the three letter ability can be used n1 and doesnt allow emojis, the role is useless

and obviously im sure players will find bypasses

will it be bannable to bypass it?

[slate hull]

Maybe try actually reading the description ^^

[torpid sparrow]

chat, is this real?

[tropic blade]

so you confirm its real?

[bitter wadi]

i think flo is pretty proud of rainmaker

[tranquil comet]

the votes are fake i know but they are intended to make other villagers fall for the bait and vote the same person, hence why rainmaker will prevent that player from being lynched

[short ether]

But you need to give the rainstick at night,no?

Its not counter

[tropic blade]

give it to seer and aura n2

[tranquil comet]

yeah im not saying the role is good

i still don’t know what it brings to the table

[civic trellis]

Welp flo confirmed it-

[regal nova]

choco ww

imo poor concept roles

[quick marsh]

soo forger but fc and a poop wolf

[midnight whale]

I think it's interesting that you have to set it up and it stays when you die, so it gives some difference to fc but I guess the bigger issue is how often flower child actually gets to use their ability effectively (when Shadow isn't in game). But I can see a use to putting it on a suspected fool and keeping another one on seer

[rotund river]

Looks like a fun flower child adv role

[dusky perch]

like i share unreal info ? ||other than donkey wolf||

[civic trellis]

Pft

[steep hinge]

Salem can you send rainmaker png

[dusky perch]

too small?

[dusky perch]

how big u want it ?

[steep hinge]

Thats rhe ability icon?

[dusky perch]

5000x5000 big enough ?

[dusky perch]

no

[steep hinge]

This is good

Can you send one like this for choco wolf

[steep hinge]

Nice

Do you have the ability icons for rainmaker and choco wolf?

[dusky perch]

lol

[steep hinge]

💀

@steady quiver

Fhocolate

I wanna eat

Can i eat

[steep hinge]

Is that the only one

[dusky perch]

no but its useless to have ability icons

[steep hinge]

😡😡

[steep hinge]

Bro i wanna make a video abt ranting on it

😡😡😡

[dusky perch]

useless

[steep hinge]

𝖽𝗈𝗇𝗍 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝗀𝗋𝗒...𝓭𝓸𝓷𝓽 𝓰𝓮𝓽 𝓪𝓷𝓰𝓻𝔂...

[steep hinge]

I need this

Thanks bro

So i can make a ranting video

Abt both of the roles

[steep hinge]

Is that the icon to choco players

[dusky perch]

mhm

[steep hinge]

And this icon tells the whole village that theyve been swamped

[dusky perch]

yep

[steep hinge]

What abt the fake vote one

😭😭

Send it or youre a poopyhead

[tropic blade]

chocolagger

[humble current]

something devious is brewing in this chat again

[rapid birch]

I only made Stubborn and Scribe, not Trickster

The purpose of that role is more to be on FC's level, extra vote protection that lasts even after you die but you can't instantly react w/ it. Not really on Paci's level but that role is a tad much anyway imo- just an outright better FC, I tend to like villagers that aren't too strong hence why I made Rainmaker, why do you ask tho

[steep vector]

only us strat:
: try to take the middle spot to spread the info to more ppl
: try to avoid being to close
idk

[humble current]

not viable because you don't know your role beforehand

Unless this guy

[vague heath]

So. I think the chocolate wolf is adv of and the rainmaker is adv of

[short epoch]

oonly us is the best fun crz game

[next cedar]

Tbh only us could benefit from having a tho

[bitter wadi]

ill probably get rm because yes

just for insti

[humble current]

U can only send one

[olive prism]

https://tenor.com/view/back-off-this-is-my-swamp-shrek-shreks-swamp-gif-10789086609985963859

[dusk hemlock]

honestly rainmaker is just provable fc

kinda lack diversity

and vote protection is the least valuable thing for village

[cursive brook]

Perma shadow d1

[cloud cave]

i would say its even less provable than fc because fc can just say vote me ill prove but rainmaker needs vill to vote out another person to prove themself

sounds like a fun role tho

[coarse sedge]

Can private chat bypass only us mechanic ? Like wolves chat, jailer chat, instigator / sect's private chat etc...

[cloud cave]

wolves chat still goes to all wolves, idk about the rest

[ocean glade]

Acco and bandit chat works so I think that it only affects village chat

[torpid sparrow]

Why is he bald

[tranquil comet]

add storm and chocolate wolf ezzz

[dusty cypress]

Chocolate wolf!?!?!?@?@

I really want that

[tranquil comet]

take it

[dusty cypress]

OMG

That is really awesome

I want that in mythical right away pleasdle

[tranquil comet]

u sure. its storms brother basically. u can perma mute 16 players for one day once per game (although not really since u can still send 1 message that has 3 letters in it), and also u can add 3 fake votes on someone by 3 different people when village least suspect it

[dusty cypress]

A message with 3 letters only? But everyone will know you are chocolate wolf if you do that?

[regal horizon]

This so cute haha

[tranquil comet]

everyone can only send a message with 3 letters only, so its almost like ur muted

[dusty cypress]

Ohhh i like it, saying something quick before you gonna eat chocolate again?

[wild basalt]

how do u get the country hairs

[tropic blade]

football

[tranquil comet]

they get drowned in chocolate 💀

[wild basalt]

wdym

[dusty cypress]

It looks more like mud to me tbh

[tranquil comet]

thats because it is but we pretend its chocolate

[dusty cypress]

I do like chocolate more

But what is it supposed to be? Mud drowing villagers?

[glossy hatch]

uhh can i type "8=🐺" ?

or 8ww

det can easily give their info if both is 1 digit number

[dusty cypress]

What about 1²?

Is it 1 message or 2?

[glossy hatch]

you can't type ¹ ² ³ etc.

[dusty cypress]

Ohhh really

[glossy hatch]

also it is 2 messages

[dusty cypress]

What will it be shown as?

[glossy hatch]

?

1?

1²

like this

[dusty cypress]

Ohhhh

Loo

Lol

Is it like an idea? Or is it coming for testing already?

[glossy hatch]

idk

[dusty cypress]

Wait how can lurker be turned by fool or hh?

[bitter wadi]

1x2 if unequal, 1v2 if equal

[bitter wadi]

forgor swrod

[glossy hatch]

1=2 1#2 ?

[dusty cypress]

It must have happend because otherwise they wouldnt have know

[bitter wadi]

incase they get censored which is prob gonna be the case

[bitter wadi]

forger sword given to fool hh converts lurker

[dusty cypress]

Lol hhahaha

[glossy hatch]

concept of muting whole village is good enough, why let people type 3 letters

[bitter wadi]

so it blocks info but not completely

[glossy hatch]

like i can block whole ww as astro but can't mute whole village

[bitter wadi]

but i looked and

[glossy hatch]

sad

[bitter wadi]

the old theme was better

the theme was aqua

[dusty cypress]

It would be to op if the day is wasted for vill and the kill extra on a random person

[glossy hatch]

you can still vote

just follow your info roles

[dusty cypress]

What if it is used on d1?

[glossy hatch]

can't be used on d1 ?

[dusty cypress]

Cant i

It?

[glossy hatch]

well idk the role

didnt see a description

[dusty cypress]

But still if it is used d2 amd 2 people claiming det and both of them voting another person

Who do you follow?

[glossy hatch]

use your op cracked vigilante

🤡

[dusty cypress]

There must be one in it then 🙈

[modern elbow]

Woooww

[steep hinge]

@dusky perch send chocowolf fake vote icon

Pwease

[bitter wadi]

mud

[dusky perch]

its not silent msg

[bitter wadi]

THE FUR IS LITERALLY BLACK

OR IS IT WHITE COVERED IN MUD

[steep hinge]

Thqnks

Should i make a rant video of it?

Of Mud Wolf

Chocowolf

[tranquil comet]

milk chocolate

[steep hinge]

10 hour vid btw

Eh im bored so im gonna make the vid anyways

[solid abyss]

Everyone I know get sometjim in give away and I watch them T-T

[regal nova]

Not a fan of either of these

[woven surge]

@tropic blade please stay appropriate, I deleted the emojis you sent earlier

[regal nova]

oop-

[dusk hemlock]

i mean giving the rainstick to a proven villager

[cloud cave]

the villager doesnt know if they get a stick tho right

[dusk hemlock]

right, but that proven villager can just confirm

similar to forger

oh wait nvm the target doesnt know

misread that

[rich sparrow]

I think rainmaker so bad :))

[visual bone]

both roles are ngl

two situations its good, recruit and couple

period

[regal nova]

I'm tired of these weaker multi-use clones

[honest ferry]

What are the new roles gonna do?

Anyone knows?

[fast oar]

By Salem

[empty tree]

Nice name for new role

but still cant understand le ability of Swamp wolf

[bitter wadi]

you flood the village once which makes everyone able to send only one message with three letters
and
you put fake votes on someone

[dapper iris]

AYO WTF NEW ADVANCE ROLE ?

[empty tree]

ic

[arctic brook]

god swamp ww is gonna be toxic asf

[bitter wadi]

16e

[arctic brook]

rainmaker is fc that cant self prove and is weak to d1 shadow, but can do stuff lategame

[arctic brook]

can still be toxic asf

how does det say

15 # 16

what does ana do

and u can only send 1 message

so u get trolled if ur det/ana

also kinda makes it hard to say much as most roles

coupled/recruited rainmaker will be devious asf btw

swamp ww is ww astro

[bitter wadi]

oh

[arctic brook]

yea think about it

[bitter wadi]

you give them letters

a b c d 1 2 3 4

[arctic brook]

its gonna be stupid

[bitter wadi]

and you put the fifteenth letter and sixteentb

im too lazy to count but for ex

e≠v

[arctic brook]

imo alot of ppl wont recognize this

aswell as

u get 1 message

throughout the entire day

ana still fucked

[bitter wadi]

then say it day one

[arctic brook]

unless it gets 2 infos that are the same

[bitter wadi]

"when village is flooded i will use names instrad of numbers"

[arctic brook]

when vill flooded

u get 1 message with 3 letters

how will names do anything

swamp wolf will be op asf

and really annoying

if played right

imo

idk if the vote thing will do much

besides in endgame

"on any player"

suggests u can vote urself

oh no this role will be DUMB

[bitter wadi]

i mwant letters

[arctic brook]

ah kk

will still make daytime hard

also depends what this will be adv of

[bitter wadi]

still bypassable

[bitter wadi]

nww prob

[arctic brook]

hmm

itll be better than nmww/storm

weaker than voodoo

but voodoo is like #1

[bitter wadi]

nuh uh

[arctic brook]

so

[bitter wadi]

both better

[arctic brook]

i think ur overlooking

the fact its 1 message

[bitter wadi]

the problem is you can say it d1 to bypass

and if its d1 just dont vote

[arctic brook]

pop d3

u get no rc

if wws are actively faking

this role will be op

if wolves arent, its = to storm

as both are crap if u arent faking

[bitter wadi]

id still say storm is better

when faked

[arctic brook]

ehh

[bitter wadi]

since you can possibly get 2 to 3 kills

unless screenshot

[arctic brook]

its really not that hard to track a storm

it just wastes time

if ur remembering

[bitter wadi]

what if both are ingame

its possible

[arctic brook]

storm + this will be stupid

lol

[bitter wadi]

storm counters chocos second ability

[arctic brook]

just dont use it same day

thats a skill issue

[bitter wadi]

itd be really fun to shuffle and flood tbh

3 messages max and swapped place

[tropic blade]

?

[visual bone]

nah?

all infos get through

"12e"

except maybe det with double digits actually

• if you can use emojis it'll make it easier

"41 🔴 "

wolf countered

and the fake vote ability is just bad player bait

[tropic blade]

if emojis can be used everything will be useless

🔫☝️

🔫16

[bitter wadi]

i can send u in dms

[bitter wadi]

a is 1,b is 2,c is 3,d is 4,e is 5 etc etc
you say

f=h

if signs arent allowed then do x for unequal v for equal

for analyst? hmm

how will you say 7 good 16 unk

oh wait i know

nvm too difficult

yeah it only screws over ana sheriff

[arctic brook]

It just makes 1 day hard

1 message limit is the issue

not the 3 letters

[steep vector]

water gun blinds ww

[bitter wadi]

@mortal panther

[arctic brook]

@mortal panther @primal frigate

[mortal panther]

OH THE CHOCO WOLF

[arctic brook]

dude

[arctic brook]

its gonna be so infuriating

my issue isnt the 3 letters

[arctic brook]

my issue is the 1 message cap

u speak once

ur done for the rest of the day

[mortal panther]

I didn’t understand da role

Am i duk

Dum

[bitter wadi]

which

[arctic brook]

one time at night

[mortal panther]

Choco wolf

[arctic brook]

u can activate flood

when that happens

[mortal panther]

Hm

[bitter wadi]

you flood village everyone can speak only once and 3 letters

[arctic brook]

everyone gets 1 message that day

[bitter wadi]

you also add fake votes

[arctic brook]

with a max of 3 letters

and you can add 3 fake votes

onto someone

aka this role is gonna be annoying asf

[mortal panther]

So you litterally stop the entire vill from speaking

3 letters is nothing

[primal frigate]

When that happens in quick game, they will immediatly vote that person obv.

[arctic brook]

yep

[mortal panther]

Dawg

[primal frigate]

You can only wrhite 3 letters to the village? That is nothing indeed.

[arctic brook]

ppl say 'no that wont do anything just use shortened!'

that day becomes impossible

[bitter wadi]

L

[arctic brook]

its just a free no vote if done right

[mortal panther]

^

[arctic brook]

annoying af to morti/sheriff/ana too

[mortal panther]

Wait how so

[arctic brook]

how do u give info

as ana

with 3 letters

[mortal panther]

Uhh

[opaque hamlet]

New WW base role?

[mortal panther]

Oh my god

True

[dapper walrus]

wait swamp wolf doesn't seem to hide vote ?

[arctic brook]

it doesnt

[bitter wadi]

nww probably

[arctic brook]

make storm ww base

swamp adv

works

[steep hinge]

Swamp Wolf makes players send multiple msg dont they?

[arctic brook]

no

[bitter wadi]

one only

[steep hinge]

💀

[arctic brook]

u get 1 message

[dapper walrus]

seem kind of weak if it doesn't hide vote since informer just going to vote bad people they checked

[arctic brook]

with 3 letters cap

op as fuck

[mortal panther]

Swamp is gonna be a test role afterall, no? We are not even sure dat it will get added

[arctic brook]

its gonna be one of those roles

where it depends

on how ww team plays

[opaque hamlet]

This role fits better as shadow's Adv i think

[arctic brook]

no

way to weak

for that

[dapper walrus]

doesn't really fit tbh

[mortal panther]

Yeah true

[arctic brook]

im ngl tho

[bitter wadi]

shadow is killing tree

[arctic brook]

3 letters is the only thing keeping it not too op

if it was 2 letters

its top 1 ww

[bitter wadi]

stop lying

choco wolf simp

[mortal panther]

What can you do with 2 letters anyway

[arctic brook]

i said if it was 2 letters

[arctic brook]

nothing

[bitter wadi]

1e

[mortal panther]

What if its 11

Your fucksd up

[bitter wadi]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g

u didnt

[arctic brook]

ke

is 11 evil

[bitter wadi]

aE

is 11 evol

[arctic brook]

but thats like

stupid

[mortal panther]

YES

[arctic brook]

listen

if u have 10#11

u do

j#k

[mortal panther]

How does

J mean 10

😭

[flat blade]

Alphabet

[arctic brook]

10th letter of the alphabet

[flat blade]

You idiot

[mortal panther]

Oh

[flat blade]

Hehe trol

@arctic brook let's create an alliance solely to make makes Bimar's life miserable, also known as "Trolling".

[arctic brook]

W

[mortal panther]

I feel attacked by cyber bullies

[flat blade]

Oh no

[bitter wadi]

why would rezy do that to his gi-
oh

[flat blade]

Why did my message get removed

I'm scared

[mortal panther]

Probably link detection

The bot

[flat blade]

It was the buff tf2 engineer

[bitter wadi]

change your pfp

[flat blade]

Fine

Gugu gaga

[arctic brook]

to my.

what.

[bitter wadi]

giant??

[arctic brook]

mhmhm thats what you meant.

[bitter wadi]

giraffe

[mortal panther]

[mortal panther]

Choco wolf aside

Whats your opinion on the other role

[bitter wadi]

probably gonna be useless

[mortal panther]

Why so

[bitter wadi]

cant change selection,cant prove

am i gonna get it?yes

[mortal panther]

I mean

You’re just gonna put the sticks on the proven people either way

[bitter wadi]

yeah

free evil fake

[mortal panther]

So why change it

[arctic brook]

ok so

rainmaker right

[mortal panther]

Uh huh

[arctic brook]

will be kinda bad

BUT

coupled/recruited/sected rainmaker.

will be

[mortal panther]

I litterally was thinkign abt that

[arctic brook]

op asf

its fc with 2x uses

and a free claim

for evil

[mortal panther]

Yeah

But they can ask where is your stick

What r you gonna say

[arctic brook]

u say on ur insti

u lynch insti

insti saved

[bitter wadi]

lie,they cant prove it anyway

[mortal panther]

Oh right

[mortal panther]

No

[bitter wadi]

free misltnch

[mortal panther]

They can prove it if you said you gave it to a village

[arctic brook]

this too

u say stick on x

in endgame

u get tested

free misslynch on x

if vill plants

[mortal panther]

X can just deny he got a stick

[arctic brook]

u dont know

if u got stick

or not

[mortal panther]

Wha

Realli

[arctic brook]

yea

u dont know

[mortal panther]

oh my god im@so dumb

I thought it said “your targets will be notified”

[arctic brook]

it does still work

post mortem

so its solid as recruit

ngl

aswell as if u die

[mortal panther]

Yeah true

[arctic brook]

u can prevent 1x misslynch

so its gonna be aight

its pathetic to paci still

but meh

[mortal panther]

Ngl I don’t like these new test roles

One is too powerful and thr other one is pathetic

[bitter wadi]

nuh

[mortal panther]

Hm?

[arctic brook]

agree

[steady quiver]

from what it seems like rn yep

[dawn cairn]

both kinda useless tbh

[flat blade]

Both are EXTREMELY useless

But as a certified sandbox player

I care about fun roles, not strong ones

Hence I love storm and lurker

Swamp ww will take the storm spot real quick

[bitter wadi]

thats the exact opposite of a sandbox player

[flat blade]

Nuh uh

I said "Nuh uh" @bitter wadi. your statement is therefore invalid

[bitter wadi]

dam i lost

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763

[dawn cairn]

Lurker is not weak
but sure it has no abilities

[tranquil comet]

Its basically more useless than fc if we talk objectively about its role in village rather than being converted / what evils fake. its just a secret insti buff cuz fc already has enough utility to save SL and cpl, this role can give 2 sticks to both its teammates and when recruits die, has an extra lifeline after that too

[tranquil comet]

Imagine this wolf and also we got in the same match + its only us 💀

[dawn cairn]

it might actually cause more harm than good
Imagine giving both sticks randomly

[flat blade]

It's pretty fucking weak in its current state, trust me

[dawn cairn]

Weak + bad for village

[tranquil comet]

oh wait im an idiot

[flat blade]

Give it to confirmed goods and you'll be safe. Though, that would be still useless since good calls won't get lynched unless evils have majority

But if evils get majority

You already lost regardless

[dawn parcel]

At least not as useless as Gentle 💀

[flat blade]

So are cursed and wwf

[tranquil comet]

one of them is a troll role, calling it powerful

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-stork-soon-tmobile-gif-19545973

[dawn cairn]

Yah useless addition to the game
Better to find another testing role

[dawn cairn]

Those are not village
used to balance the setup

[flat blade]

Let's not be pessimistic all day though

I'm sure it'll find its use

[tranquil comet]

we left with these goofy roles (rainmaker) (choco wolf)

[bitter wadi]

imagine if rainmaker could give to the same player twice

[tranquil comet]

doesn’t make it any more useful since its a villager

[flat blade]

Saying "bad for village" when talking about lurker is not an argument then. The whole cursed tree is supposed to stall the village's power down. The only thing lurker has going for it, is the rk alliance, but once the rk dies you are pretty much just a prebuff insti

[dawn cairn]

I said bad for village talking about rainmaker

[bitter wadi]

making every role good speedrun lets go

spy,3 2 instead of 4 2
keymaker,not provable can get 2 ppl bound
anarchist, 2 kill 1 lynch
gentlewolf,n/4 +1

[flat blade]

Oh

Couldn't agree more

[ebon trellis]

Are rainmaker and chocowolf previous roles?

Or fanmade roles or smt?

[bitter wadi]

instigated stubborn ww with 3 lives

[bitter wadi]

new roles

[ebon trellis]

Huh

[tranquil comet]

again its not a villager

[ebon trellis]

For wov?

[flat blade]

I wonder what the mythic rainmaker icon will look like

It has so many colours

[bitter wadi]

lemme do it

[flat blade]

DO NOT

[ebon trellis]

Wait so guys

[flat blade]

DON'T LET HIM COOK

[tranquil comet]

I can still see people getting rainmaker however, only people that play with friends tho

[flat blade]

So pretty much teaming?

[tranquil comet]

one of ur friends is cupid and u pick rain maker get coupled and give 2 sticks to your friends

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[bitter wadi]

kem should hire me frfr

[ebon trellis]

Will they be new testing roles?

[flat blade]

I found another use for Rainmaker @tranquil comet

Let me cook

[bitter wadi]

yes

[ebon trellis]

How do u know??

Also when??

I’m so misinformed lol

[empty tree]

Snowmaker when

[flat blade]

If you're in a rk vs wolf scenario and you want the rk faction to win, you give your sticks to both yourself and the killer

Profit

[bitter wadi]

our leaker said it

[bitter wadi]

sunmaker

[tranquil comet]

still doesn’t help the village win if the RK knows what he’s doing

[empty tree]

lmao

[tranquil comet]

shouldn’t have to rely on a role that isn’t village to help u win

[bitter wadi]

so youre using your ability to lose

[ebon trellis]

Leaker?

[bitter wadi]

yes

[flat blade]

Yeah I know I'm just looking for excuses to make Rainmaker seem good for once

[ebon trellis]

So when will they start testing these roles?

[bitter wadi]

idk

[tranquil comet]

the fact that fc is more useful to village than rain maker is 😂

[dawn cairn]

Give snowball to two players
it does nothing but they can throw it for fun

Advance role of mayor

[bitter wadi]

basically sandbox ft

[flat blade]

I know they are trying to add in variety, but also take in consideration that other roles may overshadow that new role

In this case it's paci

Paci is simply much stronger

[tranquil comet]

yes now u have a 5050 chance to get it!!

[flat blade]

Imagine that the main reason they're adding it Rainmaker

To decrease the odds of getting paci

[empty tree]

lets goo, we gonna see war

[dawn cairn]

They might nerf it actually and buff wwp
revealed player only show to u

[empty tree]

Remind me of a role i made: "Frost lady"

[tranquil comet]

it doesn’t nerf paci trust me

u can never nerf paci without completely changing the role, only wolf paci benefits from the buff since its a gww with an extra wolf seer check basically

[flat blade]

"You feel inner peace. You have been revealed by a Pacifist." Show that message instead and the paci nerf might actually make it counterable

[dawn cairn]

I wouldn't like that nerf anyway
Paci been there since long time no need to nerf it cuz weakness of fc

[tranquil comet]

now u have to quickly guess who revealed you (paci pre typed)

[flat blade]

Fair point

Though you can still accuse them of being RV or JWW

[tranquil comet]

also ur thinking of the paci nerf from a small percentage of people

i can only fear what the average sb player thibks

[dawn cairn]

Or claim before reveal

[tranquil comet]

“oh its a buff cuz now it doesnt show med or doc to everyone” -sb player who is asking for a level 25 restriction

[flat blade]

I love when my paci reveals a doc

You know you can safely v4r when the doc's cleared

Or whatever those ToS fellas call it

[tranquil comet]

not when 15 players are waiting to report you because u said the word rolecall

[flat blade]

Good one. Gave me a chuckle there

What do guardians even think about role calling

[tranquil comet]

well… at least you’ll get less death threats after the paci nerf when you random reveal (sb mains going to feedback cuz they complained random reveal is now “viable” even though it already was)

[flat blade]

Sandbox mains going to feedback because astro doesn't block rk (It's unfair)

[bitter wadi]

sandbox alpha werewolf users waiting for the devs to add 3 fixed bhs (they’re gonna claim it)

[dawn cairn]

Tbh paci main purpose most of time is to get info rather than stopping vote like fc

[tranquil comet]

because the latter is situational and mostly useless

for village that is

[dawn cairn]

And skipping day vote at end game can't be good

At least most of situations

[flat blade]

Sandbox cupids complaining about getting lynched D1 (they claimed)

[tranquil comet]

half of the time u shouldn’t, because village is already overwhelmed by evils from the very start

[bitter wadi]

sandbox players mass reporting the doctor (they didn’t protect seer)

[flat blade]

Well about that

You can lynch them if there's no evil found

Unless you insist on role calling D1

Which will get you banned

[tranquil comet]

lol true

[tranquil comet]

village wins
“report doc”

[flat blade]

Sandbox players mass reporting the conjuror player (they are playing conjuror)

@tranquil comet @bitter wadi let's make a sandbox appointment. One of us plays forger, the other fool and the last lurker

[bitter wadi]

sandbox players blocking the medium and threatening to report them (they revived gunner over aura)

[bitter wadi]

and then we get banned?

[flat blade]

Sandbox players getting lynched after they've been jailed by warden (they had a tea party inside)

[flat blade]

Nah

Forg gives sword to fool, fool attacks lurk and lurk calls fool evil

They recently just changed that and I gotta try it

It's for experimental use

[bitter wadi]

sandbox players after being lynched (they claimed rrv bg day 5)

[flat blade]

Sandbox Confusion wolf players asking for a buff (it's unfair how med can ask for their role)

[bitter wadi]

(also,for the readers information these are jokes and are not directed at all sandbox players,rather some)

[flat blade]

No I'm absolutely serious

Also flagger needs 10 redirects and no cd

Too underwhelming

[steep vector]

sandbox players sees a new role belike:

[solid abyss]

NOT THE ANOTHER S WOLF 😭

Stubborn
Seer
Sorc
Shaman
Strom
Shadiw

We have enough ww with start with S I think I suggest change wolf name with Mud wolf

[solid abyss]

Should I do feed-back

Im ginna do feed-back

[bitter wadi]

dont

its unreleased

[half citrus]

dont forget scribe 👀

[bitter wadi]

its not even confirmed the role will come dude

[bitter wadi]

delete it before anyone sees the leak

[solid abyss]

I only use name

👀

Its still problem?

[solid abyss]

Agh fotgot thay one aswell

[bitter wadi]

probably