#speculations
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if they listened to feedback
scribe wolf is confirmed
the second role is tbd, if there is one at all
i remember when i said gentle needed a buff and they said itd be too strong
then someone else suggested a buff
and then said theyd pass it along
What about lurker
.
lurker is questionable
gentle, 4 ppl +1 vt -> 3 ppl +1 vote
imo
or else its just garbanzo beans
So in this update
and (
or
) maybe ?
they legit told me that gentle would be too good with that buff
again its tbd
mfw its still worse than gww/jelly
im more on no second role/ or its spy
What is tbd
to be determined^
to be determined
Ohh ok ty
not a rework
depends how u look at it
or seer
its a det adv
yea....
Guys you see in vote?
garbanzo beans
yes its bp coins
Oh
(mfw we've talked abt all the leaks alr 7 times)
ya
my theory is theyre replacing bp challenges
so 1/4 intertwine
mfw u steal mfw from me

mfw when i mfw your mfw
mfw random furry emojis attack

mfw i got scammed by discord when i bought nitro
this is the worst role to ever exist
like deadass
this shit needs to be deleted
but would be too strong with a buff
it doesnt do its main purpose
to stop vill from randoming
İ think worts role is spy after 
anarchist vs shadow
u misslynched cursed
shadow on seer
and if u lynch another vil
u just lose
such bull
just kill anar, ez outplay
When
get nerf its broken
i dont remember that from testing
Paci is op
if anar is dead
paci mid
erm what the flippty heck?
this role is fucking ASS
Broo how mid flower child useless and paci can reveal ww or solo need to get nerf or rework
💀
Best role in game rn paci
paci is useless late game
Yeah
the only value of paci is to random rev d1/d2
reveal d1 is the best play (even if its against the rules)
everytime im in a paci game im always the one being revealed
Blind wolf need small nerf too
worst part is i have the valentines paci from the card event
blows up*
blindy is lowkey blessed when you find two rsvs n1
then again its a gamble which rsv it is
yes agreed
and youll only kill one a night
but usually
so basically useless 
İ spend all my card to mythic alpha
yea
İnsti too good aura
wolf seer is good, no can arue against this
blindy was fun though
insti should be unk
while i had it
and a bandit advanced
though i always so mad as blind because ww always randoms
cupid needs a better advanced role
even if you check random billager
cupid -> insti is toxic
i love wanting to win
and seeing
sl insti stubborn wolfflu
it would be cool to see more cupid adv
though idk how theyd do that consider they tried for cursed
rip lurker
?
?
qhar
sl has potential to be one of the best rks
Zb alot better
just sect all protects + aura/seer
zb sucks ass
zb is grossly op
Wws can defeat sl
zb is probably the best non-fixed rk
Sl easy get attacked wws
of my being
sometimes i remember vio used to be aura adv which makes me sad
i had aura/vio card and even back then it was one of my favs
though then i remember when vio first got released
worst info role oat
What your favorite adv role in ww ? @arctic brook @young knoll
voodoo or wolfflu
İm stubborn ww
fun - kww / strength - confu
watching village burn to the ground over kww conv
Kww is good
it isnt tbh
But i like wolfflu more
!
be careful saying kww is good around rezy
winmore is a term of a role that only helps you
if ur already winning by a landslide
kitten is very very winmore
2v3 with kww ig
kitten conversion never works in endgames
thats just jr with extra steps
atp jww/split better
wflu wouldve also gotten shot
tbf wflu is a 50/50 gamble
yea
mhmm
once upon a time the most powerful flagger in the game were extremely powerful
But got big nerfed
release flagger
Lol
flagger casually redirecting to two wws 2 nights in a row
Flagger is SO OP BUT NERFED😭
god incarnate
but it was necessary nerf
😭
or fuck it we ball, hope they random kill vill
flagger was a mess 
@young knoll @arctic brook what about toxic wolf decent/op/bad
decent
rezy this is ur question
İ think too decent
but its in a nmww tree
toxic it's as good as its tree
which makes it ass
shadow and serk better
storm... as unk
Yes lol
eugh
I suggest a while back
Confusion wolf?
back when storm could choose to use its abilties seperately
Noo my fav role stubborn ww i upgrade to mythic
stub base would be pretty op tho
here u buff 1 meh role, and nerf 2 broken ones
ok but now its evil
and its easier to balance
but tbf stub is just braindead gww
Stubborn decent i think stubborn need buff
cuz if u put alpha in a setup
u wont get a stub
and if ur ww setup is a bit weak
u stick a stub which can turn into summoner
and its gonna be good no matter what
Summoner useless
summoner is on par
Stubborn better
but summoner is perfectly fine
i do not agree stubborn more better
tbf
Go upgrade bro i upgrade my stubborn to mythic
my biggest hate to most roles
summoner wins 4v2
is the fact they rely on other players
stubb doesnt
Yes but st a little better
i automatically have a hate to sumn because it relies on other wws not going off instantly
which happens almost all the time
imo there should be a message similar to ritu when wws die
for sumn
every chance i get as sumn they always go off
Bully has unlimited rocks?
its just slow
^
Siren decent?
the literal only upside to bully is that you dont auto kill villagers
gunner is better in late game
cuz u cant "random rock"
no wait im a dumbass
tbf you cant really random shoot/rev either
bully rocks every day
so op
but the thing is
at bare minimum i see gunners ask for claims
gun and vigi have 2 abilities
rock as in killing?
bully/vigi just randoms
so they can get away with it
random stunning as aswell apparently
remembering the days bully only had 3 rocks lmfao
tbf random stun rp should be a thing
i said make that a priest advanced cuz it = mm
being random stunned as like doc could hurt everything
who said that? heard thats allowed
😭
revealing causes 0 harm imo
why not
only saying that because once had someone marked as mm, yet i was stunned by bully and died 
the random reveal rule is so ppl dont get butthurt
best part is the marked person was a ww
random rev d1 never goes well
it just proves claims and works as an extra info
random rev hits either:
an evil (good)
a scapegoat (good)
or a med/jailer (not bad but not good)
thats it really

most of the time
a reveal causes 0 harm
the most mediorce is when random rev hits doc
and in a ritu non jailer game
proves doc + if rrv prot ig its chill
happens 67% of the time
eh
still sucks when your prot is just sitting there
esp when said prot is forger or smth
and oml
the amount of times i say "dont reveal me" as mayor
and STILL get revealed
is astronomical
ur fault tbh
if they ask ur role
just reveal

u have 0 reason to hide
as mayor
ye thats it tbh
OR somebody fakes aura and says im evil
mayor is a bait role
and then i get insta revealed when i call them out
you can also "test the waters"
but this is "gamethrowing"
by "test the waters" I mean
claim informer
call someone evil
see their reaction
and then reveal
to see if they claim or not
i had that happen a couple times
when they didnt claim and got revealed it was med and jailer
med and jailers fault
I am a firm believer
if ur asked ur role
u claim
ngl my fav is just claiming med
u dont "i wont claim"
blatantly
d1 "hey what are you" i will 1000% just say
med
most of the time it works
i only play med due to the lack of med cards i ever get
most of the time
weep
i eated them
💔
canni is better sk
at least ed has different gameplay
and send urself cards
(and skins)
except im lazy
once needed to play 2 games of lm
2 days in a row
used lm talis
didnt get lm all of the 2 days
next day comes
my very first game was lm
i was legit raging
cuz i had win as tg/jailer
as quest
and my game crashed
when i rolled bg
3 times
and it autopicked bg for me
actually fucking rigged
i remember when this happened to me even with the update
except it was bugged and didnt work when offline during role picking
also on the topic of daily quests
why has all my daily quests been for base roles
not wrong tbh i really dont have that many adv
wanting to upgrade bh
scared of getting trapper
trapper jumpscare
i dislike forger
god send
astro op asf
imo fg is rlly strong
witch super good
astro not as strong as fg
forger aight
though the amount of times i get told im being reported for giving sword to dying villager is wild
astro <<<<< witch
forger stinks ever since they patched my super op strat
witch = forger imo
forger doesn't last long enough to get most value
forger used to be op
so forger=witch
back when the bug was in game
the infinite sword bug
whwt bug
no
if u crafted sword
and tabbed out
then made shield
OH THAT BUG
n2 u had both
that bug was a godsend
cause it got patched so fast
I deleted forger
How do I appeal a ban ?
still triggered by the fact space kitty is the only icon facing the wrong way
in game, not here
space kitty my beloved 🥺
tbh
it looks better
facing left
the other wardens look awkward
facing right
idk
😭
the icon knows its supieror in every way, even in the way it faces
totally not the furry bias
erm it's actually facing front 🤓
tall
if it was facing front why do u see the side

im trying to point out the fact its the only icon that has a different colored handcuff
we can also see the entire face
thats cuz thats how the angle works
tis blue

MATH@@?!?!?
its tilted between front and right
yeah but it's mostly front
assassin warden is the best warden
? leave
absolutely not
the brown is
the brown piece of shit?
not good
default > assassins
"yeah this is good"
wws barely get any kills with warden ig
assassings fg looks like a superhero at first glance
it's pretty 🥰😍
a good jailer > a good warden
overall
qg opinion
saying that to someone who was 2nd in ranked
you forget insti and alpha
jailer is only good in qg seriously
this looks...
a good village will rock with warden
speculations is 100x better than general
ur right i didnt even realize we in spec
but hey atleast its alive alr 😭
kinda went off track
ratio
idm but I almost always read this channel back for spoilers
my biggest flex frfr
erm!
i had like over 100
but i got rid of them due to being inactive
one of my friends
ranked stats mean nothing with the amount of teamers and boosters ☠️
means something if u got it legit tho

ofc with all respect
yes but now the topic is more for general
but nowadays, nah
general stinks
theres always like 7 people always talking abt something random
for what is this
where did you find out it?
man why tf are the "overrated and generic white/darkblue angel/demon outfit" winning I've seen them a dozen times in other bp already 
Some sort of badge for buying discount offer ? 
Still waiting answer
Each of these glasses cost 24 roses
there isnt a lack for artist at all
many new artists can't get their submission in because people like generic common outfits
where did u find this 👀
?
Or check artist's profile 
dope.
👀 how you get to be samta helper?
thats not their profile
Look at his roles in discord
ohh i see
Are we gonna get 12 role icon in the next bp?
Yeah
Afaik
8 in bp
4 in shop
Not one skin I voted for got in😞
Not the ones that are in the bp for sure
normally not a fan of 'furry' items cos they're not versatile but
these are nice
those dont look furry at all imo
Using the term losely
I thought the hat item was a bull
red version looks very nice
Help him 
especially for an event item
Hpw do u get these
wait is it an event itrm
oh
year of dragon
i thought its for new year
Shinigami ,Wanna soup and Vampire garden 😭😭😭
it's wumpus from the hit app "Discord" 🤯
I liked those better
wanna soup is in..
These ones seem similar We already have so many wings 😞
Lunar new year
Whereee I didn't see
the 4th bp outfit is not even fucking dead bro
the term roughly translate to "mf with no lights available"
isn't it celebrated later?
it was leaked, should be announced soon
Well at least one got in 🥹
be content that you got atleast a nighty skin
quite literally
idc for designers sweet points
but they aren't too versatile
for you
Who voted the Angelic skin? It's soooo similar to other bps
weird usage of 'versatile' lol
i'll probably forget who "Nighty" is like three days after this
This reminds me of fucking Wii party 
the outfit is not on theme 💀
thank you so sweet
putting skull and horns onto your outfit doesn't make it "dead" enough to be "After death"
thx for sending btw
ywwww
me neither im all for looks
duk how we get them?
and nightys looks pretty af
np
it looks like the blue ones we alraedy got several bps back
idk isn't mentioned
I'm mad abt the Angel one fr
welcome to wov 😭
the 2nd and the 4th one
I do like how spme of nighty's items have a graffiti effect
"general white/darkblue angel/demon outfit that we have already seen in several bp"
💀
do you mean summoned lover? i don't remember any other blue
generic fanservice momment™️
real talk, I kinda been wanting decent wings
idt i voted for it tho
@daring gust might the badge be for those dragon items?
it looks very similar to the blue one during cyber bp
Bc the owl hats also got a badge
and perhaps maybe more somewhere along the timeline
maybe
if that's the case 
hahah, I also voted for that outfit
idt i voted
i didnt participate in that im clueless which one ur talking about
the one with the cybernetic horns to excuse itself to be in the bp "generic dark blue demon outfit"
cybernetics horns doesn't make it demonic tho
I read too quick 😂
still generic dark blue outfit that make it's way into loads of bp, is it not?
for you
im more concerned about the angelic one myself
I think there's at least 1 'generic' outfit per bp
woth exceptions
not that they're bad but
looks well designed
there werent any dark blue outfits in mafia bp 
seen too much to apply the term "generic" onto it that makes it bland i guess
there's no excuse for any of them in mafia

what do you expect, if people massively vote for such skins
Actually i'm straight up talkong out my ass
lol
i bet the 2nd and the 4th bp outfit in #item-previews will be available early (tier 1-50) in the bp itself
well, maybe not the 2nd, considering the back wings
😂 there are even more wings coming
the 5th one better not be something "bad" per se
i dont care about outfit in bp, i only want gem
truly
👀
5th outfit
I hope they put night outfit in first since they not like the oitfit ✌️🤩 and I ready to collect + All nighty outfit afais is come in first obatiable
I think they should -> Sumbit this on cute animals bp
no cute ple
I like this one , it's unique ,and it's a fun take on the theme
but the second outfit would need immense changes
it's already an animal
I like desgin while I dont think this desgin fotting well with the themes maim sorcec
Yeah
still cute themed
my previous sentence still stand
my previous sentence still stand
It's fine
it doesn't fit with "cute animal" vibes people is gonna consider
for sure
We already ha e enough cute outfits -> 85% off the card and gem offer is cute
though I agree with you, the designer made it cute
so for that it gives me the "cartoony death's apprentice" vibe, which is fitting for after death bp
I AGREE LOL
Let us see this
I loveee the face😭
me when i slap a bunch of wings and call it a day's design
I don't really care about themes but I wished there were more creative "after death" interpretations
there actually were
wandering lifeless body, yokai world from japan, etc
there were so many things to chose from
Yeah,like after death from different culture
yes!!!
Yeahhh
and what we getting
Face mask is 3 eyes prob + we get no iris eyes as free + nose priencig + goof shirt + cool looking wing desgin
comically large angel wings
That's why I also voted yokai tbh
💀
Yokai ,Mexican land of dead type , Shinigami stuff like that
When we consider pattelpass ending wings they are better
also mind you the 4th bp outfit isn't even dead, the name is roughly translated to "people with no lights shined on them"
Mexicans get a lot ico. Woth that theme
Ik
the designer slapped skelly bones and horns and call it after death
more ideas #battle-pass-49-outfit-ideas message
I wanna see kem's role cards inspired by the bp theme
i dont think you can use the words on the head, or the first eye item outside of the main outfit
Petition to replace the 2nd bp outfit w this
+1
also this leads to me thinking
is there botting involved in the votes
I want to see one these desgin
Yokai -> Monster? They said
Vampire -> You need to be dead to turn vampire
Fallen angel -> not a generic angel so I aprove
Hell demon -> generic idea with cool loking
signed
Cant say less
THESE WERE MY VOTES
i love how the entire chat right now agrees that yokai should be in
literally nobody wanted angel
and yet it's there
Mods and Devs pls , don't give Democracy in fools' hands 😭
I voted for the blue, purple and neon pink one
Kinda sad I'm only gonna see 1 of these at most 😔
We gonna get 3 nightu outdit
2 of them from apohetic
1 of them from kiss of the death -> neon pink one [ didnt recive wich gender ]
We have a generic angel and another Graffitti design instead of these, I'mma cry
i'd happily spend for it
Yokai is literally so good
it's wover
It's so pretty
it's so good too
It was my first vote
If Im not wrong yokai desgin rejected cause its look like
FenguahXY desgin
how to make a petition for yokai?
Its only damage you
I would back you up ahhaahh
I would advice not to 🧍
I just want to know the psychology behind these
someone make a petition on the famous petition website 😂
:?
for yokai
Same but we won't get anything good by starting/being in a fight
HAHAHAH YES
The idea is this -> But milk got 2 outfit while they not let magini in 😭
i am even going as far as to think some really big fans of some of the outfits botted the votes using recycled gmail accounts
I agree
I mean it's possible
Man I wish I still remembered all my fake gmails from childhood lol
and it has happend that people pasted the form in facebook groups etc
Really??
yes
lol yes
It can happen
this will results in all the cutesy outfits getting voted
Example -> Soup since I dont see anyone even talk or send soup desgin [ only when they critisim how not fiitng theme ]
There was even a drama in this chanel about somebody exploiting the votes
i need Leticiel skin
Atleast we get 25% of the nighty outfits this is better than 0%
Why would people even go that far, it's just votes
WE GOT 3 DIFFERNT EYES FROM NIGHTY IM SO HAPPY
not base in vote, base in dev, fact
So many unnecessary effort
Apohetic
Boy -> Blue
Girl -> Dakish/Brown
Kiss of the death
??? -> Pink
they want it guaranteed to be ingame 💀
💀💀
@real coral which outfits did you vote for
Aphotic fits better in "Darkness" bp
Bigget fan of nighty eyes desgin here 👍
tbh
i dont beleive on vote resulf
We didnt disagree with you
only one got in (the first one)
the devs don't chose all top 5 voted btw
Same I've been staring at em while I was looking for outfits to vote
It's just the right style for me
I vote for these ones
Why schoold boy/girl outfit?
I don't think I voted for all of those but def the yokai, the roses and gray one
nice you got 3 of which I voted for
at the time i think those are dead corpses with blindness wandering around
i didn't even think it's school related 😭
I need variant of nighty eyes so I vote for all 🥲
what role is this?
paste it with space
BP22, sure everyone vote for this
illu
Illu ofc
I only have a few 🥹
ohh lol didn’t thought of illu thanks
LOL i remembered that one
everyone raged
illusionist
Cause noghty only make 2 eyes right know afaik
well what was the theme
TYYYYY
might get reported for link bypass watch out
oh what?
i lurk in #discord-reporting-old-2025 and people report for that
🧍♀️
thanks for letting us know
np np
Should I remove it?
did you make this 😂
Yeah...
let's add it to feedback
Not the skin ,I just made the petition
i mean i would
cool af
ofc
Any theories about the bp updates. I wonder what 1 is
bp coins
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