speculations

[torpid sparrow]

It can be anything

Jailrr shooting/marksman shooting

U can claim marksman who shot hh

[glossy hatch]

it is not like trickster

[torpid sparrow]

If i understood it correctly

[marsh wyvern]

I think it's single use though

[glossy hatch]

bh trap killed kitten and turn cursed that night

it would be more convincing since no one dies that night

[robust elk]

2 as far as I know

Salem said 2 usable claim spaces

Which means 2 use.

[torpid sparrow]

U can claim doc who stopped ww attacked by masking it as rk

[dire plank]

I have a life
W

[torpid sparrow]

No, thats L⁴

[glossy hatch]

but wouldnt it be obvious if rk killed someone too

[dire plank]

Bros not alive 💀

[glossy hatch]

like
sk stabbed 6
sk stabbed 10

[marsh wyvern]

Arsonist ignited 6

no ww kill

Definitely not suspicious

[glossy hatch]

then yes

it would work with arso

or other stacker

[marsh wyvern]

Or if it works like this:
Illusionist killed 8(flower child)at the end of the night

Corruptor killed 4(wolf seer)again at the end of the night

Or

Even

[glossy hatch]

or seer died in an explosion 💀 at the end of the night

my english really dropped at a1 level

[marsh wyvern]

Witch killed 6(guardian wolf)at the end of the night

It's definitely not obvious because witch timed it perfectly at the end of the night

And no ww kill either

[glossy hatch]

jailer executed jailer

at the end of the night

[tranquil comet]

yeah thats why i say scribe wolf is overrated, theres not much uses than u think

confu wolf has that major advantage of scribe wolf and even corr that when someone dies and role is hidden, u can see their role

but the other two u sometimes have to know their role before u can set up your skill

[marsh wyvern]

It's totally better than confusion if you ask me

Because you can hide someone's role and then claim it later

For both confusion and scribe wolf village most likely knows that killed player was a villager

Since ww can't kill the killer

Only disadvantage that scribe can't see it's victim's real role

But usually both scribe and confusion will use ability after checking that player so

[robust elk]

Confusion seems like it will be get nerfed with the addition of scribe wolf to make scribe wolf an option and it will definitely be nerfed at some point for balance issues.

[marsh wyvern]

It seems like scribe wolf is already stronger than confusion. Why is that needed?

[robust elk]

Since scribe takes more skill for more value but confusion is a click to win role.

Yea I find scribe better too but confusion needs some changes to be balanced with trickster and scribe wolf value/skill chart.

I will try to get scribe wolf too.

[marsh wyvern]

Only nerf can be only ww kills are hidden

[robust elk]

And no d1 use.

To prevent chance factor.

[glossy hatch]

which would make scribe better

[glossy hatch]

i don't understand value/skill chart tbh and find it nonsense

all roles in a tree should have same strength

for me

[robust elk]

I think role trees like this:
More skill for more value to actually create a reason for advanced roles.

[glossy hatch]

but that causes this imo:
you have an inexperienced teammate ? they will play a less value role which makes your team weak since they could have been an experienced player and you could be more strong

i don't support having skill strengthens the role mechanic

i think all roles in a role tree should have the same strength

so you will fight with skill and experince

in your logic

you fight with skill experience and value

which widens the strength gap between the teams

[robust elk]

Think like this:
Yes base roles and advanceds are supposed to be same or close skill floor.

But imo a advanced being able to get a lot more value if they can play good is right too imo.

Like

All are good

But are better if played well

[glossy hatch]

yes, i %100 agree that for ranked (even maybe for sb)

but in qg, some roles reallt widens the strength gap between the teams

which new players play there most

[robust elk]

I just saw your question and ehem I kinda meant this:
Roles should have a balanced needed skill for value to actually be considered to be played/be balanced.

Yes a higher skill but higher value role can be base.

[glossy hatch]

(i generally play qg bc setups are better and continously changes)

(you have to play the same setup for 2 months in sb ig ?)

[robust elk]

I play sandbox because random system makes setups at least a bit exciting + quick game gives me brain damage every time.

The test setups are the only charm currently.

[robust elk]

But anyways setups gonna change this monday or at the start of the december to welcome scribe wolf and gentle wolf.

[glossy hatch]

actually im thinking about making a fb on "disabling advanceds role cards and sometimes add advanced roles as fixed"

[robust elk]

I think like that otherwise direct better options but they have a higher skill floor which balances them.

[robust elk]

Imo sometimes the base from advanced mechanic can be closed.

At least they try to do it like that so there is a reason to play harder roles and be a bit more balanced.

[glossy hatch]

experienced players having a team of over inexperienced players in qg just feels wrong to me

(these ww is just an example)

[robust elk]

They tried to make them take more skill so they could be at least more balanced so same value roles are not hardness changed roles and different value roles are same skill.

[glossy hatch]

@robust elk
https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/1177349747347038289

(i ain't reading that)

[dusky perch]

i said nothing about how many uses

[daring gust]

@dusky perch all xmas icons leaked rn, feel free to leak them here

[steady quiver]

these ?

[cloud cave]

OMG

[steady quiver]

a santa letter ? :o

[latent locust]

loving the detail on all of these

[proven zealot]

im def getting gl and witch icons

[mystic isle]

kinda wanna see the calendar icons 👀

[steady quiver]

i couldnt find any of them

[mystic isle]

😔😔

[short epoch]

last year i give letter but no thing receive

[dapper iris]

again ?

[robust elk]

So infinite uses?

I don’t get about uses.

Don’t judge me. 😔

[worn marten]

2 🤔

[robust elk]

I JUST SAID 2

[robust elk]

I only care about tbh.

I didn’t liked icon that much.

[wary beacon]

Nah I like best

[quaint hamlet]

gahh i was confident there was gonna be an elf bh 💔

i mean good thing because i dont have cards

[robust elk]

Yep

The ghost lady just looks so majestic

[steady quiver]

the best one for me 🥺

[robust elk]

Salem

Is spy reworked leaked?

[torpid sparrow]

I NEED THE GHOST LADY AND PACIFIST ONE SO BAD

Too bad im gonna get them last

Like all the other evemts

[wary beacon]

My creation

[robust elk]

THIS LOOKS SO GOOD

[vocal helm]

As a split wolf enjoyer, I am proud and hopeful this becomes something real if there's ever given a chance

[grizzled hearth]

I NEED EM!

[robust elk]

Salem do you know when will upgrade event start and end?

[short epoch]

maybe 15/12 to end of december

[latent jewel]

THEY ARE SO GORGEOUS!!!

and then there's lm

[steady quiver]

hohoho

[latent jewel]

Wyat's most likely the next icon event after this, valentines? Just thinking if I should go all in or save my cards

[empty tree]

br, paci, witch and confusion xmas icons are my fav

they all look cute

[empty tree]

bet

[mystic isle]

wait confusion has an icon???

[regal nova]

neato

[empty tree]

i thought that snowy wolf icon is confusion?

i think im wrong XD

think its jelly more

[mystic isle]

yeah it's jelly

[loud girder]

ghostlady lets goooo

[brisk heath]

Lets wish That I won t get the lm icon 💀

[clear girder]

lmao lm is the worst

[brisk heath]

Yes

in the lasy Halloween update

While everyone got the Forger/Bandit one as Their first

I got cursed 💀

[robust elk]

I only want icons but I don’t mind that much.

The list of the care I give:

I didn’t liked and icon.

[next cedar]

Tbh I just need or and I’ll be happy, also want but I don’t have the role

[brisk heath]

need

want

ok

[next cedar]

Also and have so far only gotten icons from events they share

[daring gust]

gl's winter role card offer is way better

[robust elk]

Can I see?

🐳✨💖

[cloud cave]

i was so salty after i missed 's valentine icon so this is my one chance

[solid abyss]

A
B Gl Bully
C Jelly
D Witch Paci
E Br lm
F Split

I think none of them a tier [FOR ME]

I want to see interesting idea like bandit/forger

[robust elk]

Imo is A

[robust elk]

It looks so majestic

[solid abyss]

Gl look good but its tier go down bec 4 differnt icon look like same

If 1-2 icon look same

Its look more special

I wait and want to see a grinch icon for wolves

And candy can for bully

Like tgis for bully

This make evey icon uniqc for their desgin

Lastly I fogot to say deers for splot

🥲👍 instead of ice these can be good ideas

[dusky perch]

Damn 2000days

[solid abyss]

💀

[robust elk]

Salem can you leak calendar icons and spy rework if you know them and you are allowed to leak them.

[fleet hawk]

and was released on the same update
Bully: will get another new icon soon
Blind: werewolf

[solid abyss]

I want bully like this T-T

[solid abyss]

I didnt make lines perfect sorry about that part 🙈

[grizzled hearth]

Grinch for Grumpy Grandma icon?

[solid abyss]

I can try 😁👍

But I have another request I need to finish first 😃

[grizzled hearth]

Kk

[fading fern]

That looks amazing

[solid abyss]

Ty 😁

[fading fern]

I want that in game!!

[solid abyss]

Same

[fading fern]

A santa cookie maker baker🤭

Forky as an elf

[flat blade]

Lm and split are definitely disappointing but the rest, especially Bully

Mmmmhh I need it

[velvet depot]

Nice one

[velvet depot]

This one too

[bitter wadi]

theres still 37 days for scribe wolf omg

[steady quiver]

The witch and pacifist is a need

🙏

[steady quiver]

fr !!

[marsh wyvern]

For test or to be added?

[bitter wadi]

flr ot to be adfer

added

[marsh wyvern]

It's not tested yet so it's not guaranteed we will get it

I think we may get lurker

[steady quiver]

And your pfp is literally the best bee

I really like it

[robust elk]

A normal expectation:
reworked + %35/%50/💇‍♀️%15

Wolvesville developer exceptactaion:
reworked + %5/%5/💇‍♀️%90

[marsh wyvern]

If spy is getting a rework when will it be tested?

[robust elk]

yes

[marsh wyvern]

If it was going to be tested along with scribe and gentle wolf then salem would have leaked it

[robust elk]

Last week probably

like

[robust elk]

Salem said someone forgot to change the description + salem leaked the spy rework news

[dawn parcel]

I don't think toxic got a rework unlike ft did

[robust elk]

still if they were in game files they test with 1 week left

if it is first test they give them a month if second+ test 1 week

[dawn parcel]

I do agree that ft was rushed though

but if we actually get a W update (which is unlikely but still)

I hope we get 3 roles this time

hopefully Spy, Lurker and Scrible wolf

Locksmith can get released with gentle wolf

[robust elk]

Kimberly I made a whole explanation of what devs would do

[robust elk]

.

[dawn parcel]

true

[robust elk]

I smell gentle wolf

[dawn parcel]

istg if they pull a honor season 3

I'll get mad

[robust elk]

but yeah I hope they bring lurker and scribe

because scribe seems exciting

and I will defo save cards for scribe

[steady quiver]

lol cobalt bee xD

this bee is my fav tho

[marsh wyvern]

People voted for another rework

[dawn parcel]

the thing is

they can't fix it

[brisk heath]

Yes

[marsh wyvern]

That is possible i believe

[dawn parcel]

honor was already a lost cause since it was being tested

[brisk heath]

if They could , Would xp farming be a thing

[marsh wyvern]

The feature of game automatically honoring might actually be the solution

[brisk heath]

I liked the theme Of honor a lot and reached 12500 (but I still couldn t finist it Max is 15000)

[marsh wyvern]

Instead of letting players decide, letting game decide might work

[brisk heath]

But Some peoples finished honor Season After 2 Days

[brisk heath]

You sure?

[marsh wyvern]

Yes

[brisk heath]

What if Flower child did all the deduction

And Gunner shoot All the peoples That Fc said

Gunner didn t do anything whole game

The main action was done by fc

How will the game understand that Fc Did the Job

[marsh wyvern]

Easy

So let's say

[brisk heath]

Or For wolves

[marsh wyvern]

-Message count for each chat
-Voting history
-Win/lose
-Ability history

Some of these can be criteria for a certain amount of honor

Like let's say message count for village chat is X and werewolf chat is Y. If a werewolf sent more than X and more than Y in both chats they get, 2+3 honor

[robust elk]

People would spam the char probably.

[marsh wyvern]

For a villager who participated a voting a non-villager X times, they get 5 honor

[marsh wyvern]

Spam is not allowed and can be reported

An ability used against their enemy 1 honor for each(this is for informers killers etc) and an ability used on teammates 1 honor for each again(this is for protectors revivers etc and if they only successfully save a player)

Win can give 1 or 2 honor not that much

But you got the idea

[brisk heath]

Wouldn t this Promote Farming More?

[marsh wyvern]

Forgot to add there must be also a day limit

[brisk heath]

And this is Worse than Farm 💀

Bc normally

Lets say Whole lobby gives 1 person a Honor

it starts with

300

Then 150

Then 75

Then 15

But with this one you will get fixed 50-65

Per game

Or even more Idk

[marsh wyvern]

No it's 15 at max

[brisk heath]

then to Finish the Honor season You need to play 1000 Games at least

60 days

15-20 Games Per day

[marsh wyvern]

The amount of honor required would be decreased to protect the previous ratio

So the base idea is this:

If game ends so fast it won't give any honor

[brisk heath]

But Hypostein said that This is Alr a thing

[marsh wyvern]

Players will get punished or rewarded with honor

[brisk heath]

Idk how game detects it but he said that you get Auto honored For shooting non villager as gunner/muting Non villager as gg etc

[marsh wyvern]

And even if it's farmable it won't be that much because they have to wait until let's say until the beginning of day 4. And farmers that got non-village roles might get punished for not playing good

[marsh wyvern]

I'm talking about not letting players decide but the game decide everything. More categorized and more accurate

Maybe even less farmable

[brisk heath]

Yea Could Work Idk

Maybe instead of Releasing the 5000th Love themed skin

[bitter wadi]

make everyone see who gave whom honor and they can report if neither played well

[marsh wyvern]

That is something controversial and would probably overwhelm guardians.

Another solution might be a new staff type that checks honor stuff

Maybe they can choose who should be honored

[cobalt ivy]

hey guys

does current calendar have a background

[marsh wyvern]

And publicly announced to all 16 players in that game, if they think it's unfair they can Report it.

[marsh wyvern]

#item-previews message

You can check here

[cobalt ivy]

thanks I just checked but still not quite sure if this is a background or no. do you know?

[marsh wyvern]

By background, do you mean background item or day/night background?

[cobalt ivy]

day/night

[marsh wyvern]

No

[cobalt ivy]

oh too bad thanks for answers

[marsh wyvern]

No problem!

[buoyant axle]

For future reference, none of the calendars contain the day/night cycle backgrounds. It's always a loading screen and emotes. The newer ones have role icons.

[robust elk]

The next calendar is on my shopping list.

It has a icon and possibly icon related items so I wanna be a frozen jello.

[buoyant axle]

Ooh, did the leaks get out yet? I just barely saw the Christmas icons and frozen Jelly is top tier. Best one in the lot tbh.

[buoyant axle]

BR and Paci are pretty too, but FROZEN JELLY! YOU CAN HEAR THE CRUNCH FROM HERE!

[woven dove]

the ghost lady is cute

[robust elk]

My care tier:
MUST

Would be nice to have:

Niche addition:

No:

[robust elk]

Frost queen ghost lady offer will be a thing.

[buoyant axle]

They missed an opportunity to do Baker making a gingerbread Cursed cookie from last year.

[woven dove]

i'll open my 140 loot boxes when those icons come out

[next cedar]

Imagine if you could get event icons from lootboxes

[robust elk]

Oh the holy boost of custom games, developers shall have mercy upon us non boosters.

[dawn parcel]

would be cool ngl

they should be mythical rarity then

[buoyant axle]

They definitely could've done something more with Split. Like, one being a lump of coal and the other being a present instead of a color swap.

[next cedar]

Split should’ve been reindeer lol

[buoyant axle]

THAT TOO! THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO CUTE.

[robust elk]

Other lovely jelly’s creation and I am just obsessed.

[buoyant axle]

Those loot icons would have like 0.01% of being found. They straight up lied about the 10% for the Halloween fronts.

[next cedar]

You were just unlucky tbh

[woven dove]

yea i saved like 125 loot boxes for halloween

[next cedar]

I got a decent amount of them

[woven dove]

but i got none of the halloween items

[next cedar]

How

Just how

Unless, lootboxes have their loot preloaded

[regal nova]

is my former golden child who decided to mess it up by becoming broken and now is best boy

[torpid sparrow]

All icons so far are legendary rarity

Maybe if epic rarit icons release. This is gonna happen.

[mystic isle]

I can't wait to see the December calendar icons...

my favourite kitty ww is getting a role icon :)

[quick marsh]

they all look so prettyyy

except split, we dont talk about that

i swear they will never make a good split icon 😫

[true gorge]

is the best one

I need it

[robust elk]

Imo is the best

[robust elk]

Yes

It looks so majestic

[bitter wadi]

preacher could you accept my req?

[robust elk]

Wait lemme

I did.

🐳✨💖

[true gorge]

Definitely

Nice ones i would use

In between

Good to have

Nah

[glossy hatch]

i think princess one is peak bc of her hands

for gl

[terse arrow]

How do I get coins for a second option by the Easter egg?

[fading fern]

Hey there a second wheel called a rose wheel. Where you can spin a wheel for 30 roses where you can get more gold and other items. You can get there by going to your inventory and then pressing on your rose count.

[solid abyss]

I try to do it but it was so bad that I delte the desgin 🥲

[solid abyss]

I taught that was hidden easter egg

I get warn by helper if Im not wrong about this

But time chnages

[dusky perch]

you can reveal ee here tho

[solid abyss]

Whats differnces here ?

I dont understand thats why asking

Im not mad

Or something

[dusky perch]

cuz its #speculations

i can say there is ee give u 100 gems if u sent "Salem pro" in day chat

[solid abyss]

Ee?

100 gem is not bad deal

2+ week weekly mission

Salem pro

[fading fern]

nice try Salem 🙈

[fading fern]

As Salem said here in speculations you can reveal ee and discuss things that haven't been officially released or revealed.

[solid abyss]

ee = easter egg?

I taught salem talk about hours its new day time for my country 🙈

So I write here

[solid abyss]

Is there a spesific reason why devs dont get icon sumbits like outfits? Except paid emplpyes thing?

[dusky perch]

who said devs dont have outfits

[solid abyss]

?!?

I try to ask why devs dont get icon sumbit like the bp outfits or clan mission/dailies

[bitter wadi]

you're wondering why devs don't take fanmade icons?

[solid abyss]

Yeah

[dusky perch]

icon submit

[solid abyss]

The only reason the helpers give me paid emploies

[fading fern]

Yes it is

[dusky perch]

they do if its good enough

[solid abyss]

🥲

[dusky perch]

but its up to kem not devs

[solid abyss]

So I should sumbit kem if I do degins?

[dusky perch]

should be but he say no i submit to philipp

[glossy hatch]

actually just a concept should be enough imo

[dusky perch]

but being late that kem already made icons so wont take mine

[solid abyss]

Example

[bitter wadi]

you made icon??

[dusky perch]

example

[solid abyss]

I see this one

[dusky perch]

i always do its fun

[solid abyss]

T-T missed oprtunity

[bitter wadi]

i remember seeing that

it gives restroom theme ngl

but it fits

[solid abyss]

Cant say less its a way to express ur taught in icons for me

[bitter wadi]

id prefer this than loudmouth

[dusky perch]

currently bp theme kinda muh so didnt make any

[bitter wadi]

make a fall one

[dusky perch]

death tarot cards for ft fit bp theme?

[solid abyss]

I try to do reaserch about after dead with other cultures to get inpire but nothing came my mind except zombie/devil/angel

This bp hard to degin

For me

[dusky perch]

i only found ppl visit dead's grave lmao

[bitter wadi]

i tried making a wendigo outfit

it went horrible

[solid abyss]

I read some documents but I dont get it some how 🥲

[solid abyss]

Maming outfit is so hard

-I cant draw hair
-I cant draw shirts

[bitter wadi]

yeah

[dusky perch]

why ppl didnt pick cute animals

[bitter wadi]

i gave yp just at the accessories

[solid abyss]

I pick

[bitter wadi]

squid

[solid abyss]

Im nit fan of cute animals but after death is not a cool theme

Shirp so knew lets wait 1 more season to get icon

But shripms best category will be veleanties

Thats best thay I see

I see dragom desgins in bp 34 chat and I dont get the part with after death and dragon

They got recarnte to the dragon world or something

[dusky perch]

i think kem already done

[solid abyss]

Help I got jelly?

[dusky perch]

u made the split icon ?

[solid abyss]

Help I got ja id

[dusky perch]

what u made

[solid abyss]

I try to do a reen deer desgin with xmas icons 😁👍

Try to do greench gg but its go so teribble

I start to doing this desgin for after death but couldnt go further sadly

Sometimes inspire came and gone 🥲

I hate when my inspire gone

Bro found new way to talk

Wothin in jail

[dusky perch]

lol

[solid abyss]

Whays jailing

Mute?

[solid abyss]

Salem can u say the lealand he forgot to do give away again

[fading fern]

Jailing is like being muted within the server when you break a rule, you still get to see the server but will only be able to talk in one channel that only trial mmods and above can see, where they can discuss the rule break

[solid abyss]

Its been 1 day 🥲

[dusky perch]

lealand is friendly u can remind him lol

[solid abyss]

Im scared to tag persons

@dusk pivot can I remind u to give-away

[dusky perch]

he wont bite

[solid abyss]

Its been 1 day

[solid abyss]

👀 well cant sure without chek

I only tag bec I dont think u gonna bite me

Scared to be like jelly

So I try to be nice

[fading fern]

yet

[dusky perch]

yeh yet

[solid abyss]

🥲

[fading fern]

[solid abyss]

Can u do for trapper to

I hope I can win this time 🥲

Yeah I only asking bec want to see interesting trapper desgin

Anyways I need to sleep hope I could win this time

[olive prism]

@dusk pivot You forgot about me too 🥺

[dusk pivot]

[dusk pivot]

Thanks

[fading fern]

Little nubbish forgetting about it Lea Hungry/Snacking Land!

😂🤭

[dawn cairn]

what's that gunner

[dawn cairn]

Day 2000 reward:- lootbox 💀

[next cedar]

I need to start grinding cards again just to boost my odds of getting the mistletoe br or snow queen gl

Already going to get three icons once the event starts but I need more chances

[dusky perch]

i need 100x talisman for anti stupid roles that i dont care about

[buoyant axle]

Better get started if you haven't hit this months limit yet.

[next cedar]

Oh I get cards at a very leisurely pace so I am not scared of no card limit

[honest ferry]

Anyone knows the Icons of December calendar?

[dusky perch]

iam anyone

one winter one xmas

[unique elm]

👀👀👀

[dusky perch]

both wrong

[unique elm]

We have an eileen icon ofc no?

[dusky perch]

yes we have cutie icon

[unique elm]

🤭

https://tenor.com/view/moti-hearts-gif-20367288

[dim trout]

My tierlist:
S: (And i feel she requires 5 bp quest )
A:
B:
C:
D: (i dont like it, sorry)
F:

Now srsly... what is that watermelon on 's head

[rugged panther]

Looks more like a mango

[winged rampart]

How Can we know what is in the next calendar ???

[next cedar]

They will show it in #item-previews shortly before the calender comes

[next cedar]

icon is just missed potential

[empty tree]

omg what is that?

[civic trellis]

Most likely the loading screen

[civic trellis]

For me I don't like any of em. Because ya know what?

My boi cookie cursed exists

And he is all that is needed.

[bitter pawn]

calendar 2022

[craggy carbon]

It’s such a good idea to put bell ringer in the Christmas edition

[steep vector]

advent calendar in wov, any thoughts?

[next cedar]

That pretty much happens every december no matter what bc calenders do exist

[steep vector]

fr

[dawn cairn]

Do we know what's xmas icons looks?

[empty crown]

Jinglebells

[dusky perch]

i had a dream we got chair role in game

[somber mauve]

a chair to sit?

[worn marten]

i can't imagine

[solid abyss]

Chair protect u from shuffle 👀

[dusky perch]

its even has legendary and mythical icons

in my dream legendary icon has change on original icon then colored in gold and mythical also has more stuff around chair and colored purple

[versed creek]

omg your pfp would have been a cute xmas icon

[worn marten]

Something cuti

[torpid sparrow]

Guys

Have Trial Helper been a thing before?

I dont recall AT ALL seeing the color of Trial Helper in chat

[somber mauve]

have been a thing for a long time

[gloomy cargo]

hello chat, would any of you know where to find last year's Christmas icons 😅

oop nvm I think I got it haha

[regal nova]

wrong place to ask tbh not like you aren't allowed to tho

[gloomy cargo]

I realised after

[regal nova]

buh

[gloomy cargo]

haha

sometimes I think I click on a channel and it doesn't fully load

[empty tree]

dont throw le chairs ty

[torpid sparrow]

yeets 3 chairs off the window

[empty tree]

lmao

[dapper iris]

@steady quiver
you must give a roses for a staff that use the gravestone in the game
so if staff have that but doesn't use that gravestone you basically can't get that

[bitter wadi]

send it

k wanna see

[bitter wadi]

put spoiler tgo

oh

[true gorge]

Are we getting the new test roles and christmas icons on the same day?

[next cedar]

Funily enough br is actually the mistletoe

[next cedar]

Also that would be cool

[cinder oyster]

They dont know what to do with lm skins its so funny 😭

They fr put a Santa hat on him and gave him a mustache called it a day

The other one put icing on his head with a candle

So simple but so good..

[grizzled oxide]

Where are the upcomming icons?

[daring gust]

^

gl's icon would have been cuter if this was added

[versed creek]

Are there role leaks?

[bitter wadi]

yes,scribe wolf and gentlewolf. let me rind them

[versed creek]

thank youuu

[bitter wadi]

Scribe wolf :
At day you can select a player to falsify their obituary. You can select a role and a kill cause for your target that will be shown if this player is killed during the night.

Gentlewolf :
You can select a player during the discussion phase to increase the amount of votes required to lynch that player by 1 for every 4 living players. You can protect up to 2 players this way. Other werewolves can see which player you selected.

@versed creek ^

[versed creek]

DAMN the second icon looks good

[tranquil comet]

[bitter wadi]

exactly

[versed creek]

LOL

[tranquil comet]

[paper star]

Hello

[versed creek]

First role prob is fun

[tranquil comet]

[versed creek]

Any news about lurker?

[solid abyss]

Tbh scribe wolf is very bad bec there is only 3 thing u can do as dead

-RK kill
-Bh kill
-Rl dies

For the other effects roles can kill during the night phase so its useless basicly

But by only kill ww so its eleminate Bh kill to

Rk can understandable with if there 2 or 1 kill

Rl is the only thing u can shooe and it basicly useless

[bitter wadi]

it hides roles too no

[solid abyss]

This kinda look good but I dont have gww famil experince so I cant say anything

[solid abyss]

In the definition it didnt say that part

Oh

It says

Then its usefull

But stillbec its gonna happen atnoght its useless

At the end of the night*

So u cant show

Jailer or Witch famil for cause

Bec they generally finish at the middle of the night

So scribe still usless but only can claim

Bh familly

[true gorge]

Is that official or you made the icon?

[marsh wyvern]

Everything official

[true gorge]

Damn i want Scribe wolf so much

[true gorge]

Btw he looks like Simba lmao

[true gorge]

You can also fake lmao

If it really includes all causes

But it's hard

[marsh wyvern]

Can't say much without seeing it in game. Because the description is so unclear. "During the night" does that means player is killed by witch, arsonist and siren kills etc or every kill? And if you choose witch poison etc will it show like witch killed at the end of the night or will the player die and secretly kept alive to others and killed by witch during the next night?

[true gorge]

I think if there was wws of which kill during the night, it could be more useful and missleading
But the only things aside from a village member that can kill midnight are

Aside, you can also fake a death as other things, but it is obvious

[tranquil comet]

only if u know they are about to shoot

mm is funny actually

i was about to say u predict mm when they will backfire their shot and then make it as though you made the conclusion they were fake and made them die to witch (ur “witch” and they are some evil)

but then u can also make the successful mm shot sus too, and say they instead burned their target (the “arso” mm burned your ww teammate faking aura, your ww is “aura”)

lots more creativity with but can just click and get a free role to fake and more

technically u can play scribe as a balanced confu wolf and just focus on hiding roles, as the niches are not much, RL, traps, certain RK kills and predicting village kills

can be as simple as making somebody die to “evil detective” and then claim you saved someone else and so they have to be village by default since “ed” killed a ww

I also analysed Gentle Wolf a bit but I’m gonna flood this chat 😂

don’t wanna post it yet to #1048395200738906163 since its unreleased

[true gorge]

This feels so funny lmao
And also pretty rewarding

considering it opens claimspace and make someone look as evil at the same time

An interesting strat i thought about would be faking and making the other look evil by turning their "goods" into "unknowns" during kills

:" x is unk"
:"No, x is good"

X was , but you turn them into

Could be a great support for
Considering how frequently they do an info simulation

[next cedar]

Post it anyways

[versed creek]

🌊 flood flood flood

[dusky perch]

just found something interesting

[marsh wyvern]

What is it salem?

[bitter wadi]

the meaning of life?

[dusky perch]

[bitter wadi]

the color is off man

[dusky perch]

what color

[quick marsh]

are the christmas icons out?

[bitter wadi]

the greens are different

[regal nova]

wait
there's leaks for it

[next cedar]

No

[regal nova]

?

[bitter wadi]

yes

[bitter wadi]

here @regal nova

[true gorge]

How

How do you already have them?

[regal nova]

IMO
scribe should have gentle's fur color
& gentle should have a stronger base fur color instead of having the same palette as (w/ the pink ear/nose)

[bitter wadi]

Scribe is reworked
Gentlewolf is

[quick marsh]

i saw mistletoe paci icon ig

[regal nova]

Yea

scribe has a warmer color & i'm not exactly a fan

considering

yes it's lighter but i just prefer the cooler pallete w/ the pink ears

Gentle should have more hue in it's base fur & no pink nose
(imo)

[next cedar]

Imagine using scribe wolf to make it seem like you killed med so that when a vill dies they just leave instead of staying

[regal nova]

uh

bud

[regal nova]

scribe changes the cause of deatg

nvm

you can select role too

okay that's a bit busted

[next cedar]

I mean you can prob choose to keep it as a ww kill

[true gorge]

I think it should be even warmer to stand out better

Considering most wws are always a bit blue sided

Aside from

[regal nova]

mmm

there's more than that

is neutral/warmer

are neutral

is warmer

are really the only ones w cooler colors

and one of them never made it past samdbox

[true gorge]

The black/grey colors are slightly blue sided

But yeah, can be considered

is mostly the true neutral

[regal nova]

The null colors aren't notably warm or cool

Unless you have like

side by side

where i'd say split is slightly cooler

but saying they're all generally neutral is reasonable

because their temperature isn't very strong

while most of the browns either fall into that category, or are just warm

[regal nova]

Based on that, saying scribe is warm & gentle is neutral

is reasonable

[dawn parcel]

and nwm

[mystic isle]

what are the role icons for December calendar

i wanna see them!!!

[clear girder]

kitten and aura

[prisma pollen]

Aaaa

I want pics of the calendar’s items 😦

[steady quiver]

#item-previews message here is the beva one (current one)

[prisma pollen]

Oh i was talking abt December 😭

[steady quiver]

Oh

[prisma pollen]

Thx

[solid abyss]

Wich toygh guys is

The offer wich skin?

Of the tg

[fast oar]

Mafia bodyguard

[solid abyss]

The name is toygh guys

Not bodygiard but 🤔

[fast oar]

Or mb this one

[steady quiver]

the file name called ' touchguyfia ' for some reason

touchguy..

[solid abyss]

I think that to but thete is no love thing in the tattos

[quick marsh]

do we know when icon event is

[dusky perch]

that isnt tg

its bg

[bitter wadi]

its definitely bh wdym

[dusky perch]

where is tg

[bitter wadi]

maybe bg is tg in disguise

[dusky perch]

more like rare cards offer not epic

idk whos @thorny tree or @worn marten touch guy is bg not tg

rare card not epic card

[steady quiver]

touchguy

[dusky perch]

touch guy

[thorny tree]

Tough guy role card offer

[dusky perch]

so you buy tg offer to get bg skin

[clear girder]

Mr. Salem do you know where this background came from?

[velvet depot]

Maybe

[dusky perch]

only skin color same

not same tattoo either

[dusky perch]

mini new year collection

[clear girder]

thank you !

[velvet depot]

Yeah, i'ts obviously a mistake

This is bodyguard epic role card

[dusky perch]

rare cards *
we have base role offer too

[velvet depot]

Rare card sry

[dusky perch]

also its helpful for rich ppl get 4 cards for upgrade card event

[velvet depot]

Like me

[worn marten]

it's touchguy, confirmed

[worn marten]

his brother, bg

[dusky perch]

why dont make it base role offer

[velvet depot]

This is not touchguy 😔

The difference is in the tatoo

[worn marten]

who said it have to have exactly tattoo follow the icon?

[worn marten]

touchguy need his offer too

[steady quiver]

someone was spreading random rumor..

[velvet depot]

I mean, the bodyguard icon match perfectly the skin

So

[dusky perch]

cuz its looks exactly as bg icon from currently bp and not as tg

without muscles

[steady quiver]

bodyguard rare card offer

[worn marten]

it does have muscle

[dusky perch]

looks good

[worn marten]

and remember this?

it have avenger and also ghostlady
there's no rule

[steady quiver]

:o

is this gl offer

or aveng

[dapper summit]

Gl

[dusky perch]

this should be tg

[worn marten]

cute

[dusky perch]

by allex

[bitter wadi]

💀

[fading fern]

you forgot the sixpack 👀

their pecktoralis is great but no sixpack...

[fresh sail]

"i love masculine"
- my clan leader

[fresh sail]

fairy tales offer

[worn marten]

hehe

[clear girder]

really no background for upcoming calendar🥲

[vapid hull]

This one is cuteeee

[torpid sparrow]

TIL: if the bounded target dies in the same night as the protection happens, the bind doesnt work

[torpid sparrow]

No

[glossy hatch]

rl died, not killed 🤡
"people die when they are killed" -shirou

[dusky perch]

u die if avenger/jww tag bounded target

same if mm shot villager and mm bounded with mm

[cloud cave]

random octopus? 👀👀

[worn marten]

Squid

[grizzled hearth]

Noppers, that's an Octopie

[worn marten]

They're friend

[latent locust]

One of: Siren (idk what else to put in this category)

[regal nova]

Random squid role 🙏🏽

[next cedar]

Sect leader

[dapper iris]

🍨

[mystic isle]

still waiting for the December calendar icons...

I gotta see that kitten wolf!!!

[dusky perch]

kitten

[velvet depot]

"Die first one."

[kindred crypt]

👀

[velvet depot]

Fool be like : "Die."

[dusky perch]

not any die

get lynched

[maiden hare]

Q1: Was Thoose Xmas Role Icon Will Added In Game Later?
Q2: Need to Upgrad Rare / Legendary Cards To Unlock?

[dusky perch]

thoose ?

[tranquil comet]

gotta wait for the december update to hit

[spice hedge]

Leaving this here, feel free to spread: there will be more free xmas role icons when upgrading role cards this year. It's not yet clear when the event will start (probably not on the 1st of December), but it will happen in December. There will be an #game-updates once the event is live

[versed creek]

🥳

[bitter wadi]

guys did you see what philipp said omg

[maiden hare]

Nice. Me with 16 Rare Cards

So I can Get like 5 Xmas Role icon

[dusky perch]

dont we already know that

[mystic isle]

wait, "more" free xmas role icons?

does there mean that there are more than the original leaked 8?

[mystic isle]

Bruh

[dusky perch]

more than last year we had 5

[mystic isle]

damn....

[steady quiver]

omg thanks for letting us know 💞

[loud girder]

2 rare cards here 💀

[maiden hare]

@loud girder Soo, Just sacrifice epic cards

[loud girder]

I will not do that bro

[maiden hare]

Okay nvm. Dont sacrifice

[loud girder]

Damn, yesss sirrr

Does Jelly looks too basic ?

[wispy laurel]

Its jelly

[maiden hare]

Jelly look awsome. But i preferred The unicorn one

@wispy laurel. Jww. Jelly

[wispy laurel]

Not jww

[maiden hare]

But Jelly is J Too. Oh yah. We use jelly

[loud girder]

Ah man 💀

[wispy laurel]

Jww is junior

[maiden hare]

Pls Give me anything Accept Pacifist

I don't have paci

[loud girder]

It just an icon with snow

[loud girder]

Go to the upstair and watching Disney Wish

[loud girder]

Then go to sleep and you will have it

[maiden hare]

@loud girder Yep. Thats why I prefer this cuttie one

@steady quiver ?

Oh yah

[loud girder]

Same

[maiden hare]

summoner One is way coller 🥶

I mean. The old battle pass

season 29

Btw. Gl is brighter Then my Mom phone brightness

• Mom's

[wispy laurel]

We alr have gingerbread cursed

[maiden hare]

@wispy laurel Yep

We need xmas tree

Oh yah. Med got cmas tree

Why dont the make Snowman instead?

[wispy laurel]

Br is cool

Coz we dont have br icons ig

[maiden hare]

@wispy laurel Easter

[wispy laurel]

Oh

[wispy laurel]

Dont have it

[maiden hare]

Sadly. IT COST 1000 GEMS

@wispy laurel Who is crazy dude buying with 1k gems?

[wispy laurel]

Idk

[loud girder]

Emote where

[maiden hare]

@loud girder Ahh. Its a common bug

Dont worry. I get it before

[wispy laurel]

Ye, have this bug too, but with zodiak collection

[dusky perch]

the stickers emoji

[spice hedge]

Can't reveal everything 😋

[dusky perch]

what salem
i only leaked one

[dusky perch]

you cant but api can

[spice hedge]

You mean our API? 😄

[steady quiver]

🙄

[dusky perch]

yes ppl got icons from it already

[steady quiver]

i love #1048387613683372092 💞

[mystic isle]

omg hello mr game dev

[steady quiver]

salem not joking

[wispy laurel]

I think x-mas role icons release date is December 19. Like in 2022

[dusky perch]

challenges stay 2 weeks tho

[steady quiver]

its public api

lemme ping u

[lusty gull]

Hi, can you please make a bug report in #1052307474654433310 about it (with your device, your game version and the screen shots)

[south charm]

I have the same question as Vibing

[spice hedge]

Is there an update available for you?

[loud girder]

Hmmm, let me check

I’ve just restart the game

And the emotes are appear

[loud girder]

Ok

Thanks for helping me 💃

[steep hinge]

What's the next bp

[silk pond]

After death

[south charm]

after death

[steep hinge]

💀

What kinda BP is that i was gonna save up for a BP but now I wont

Unless the role icons are good

[bitter wadi]

my reccommendation,buy every bp.

you get coins and gems,heck even outfitd that u may like when time passes

[steep hinge]

True

[olive prism]

Calendar reruns

[alpine kestrel]

When will this emoji be available in the game for everyone @spice hedge ?

[steady quiver]

yes please

[worn marten]

[thick lotus]

Yeah I still use singular items for outfits I make from scratch lol

From previous bp

[twilit pond]

[worn marten]

how

[twilit pond]

It’s public

We can’t use ?

[worn marten]

i though its on private server. im discord noob, hehe

[twilit pond]

Yes but it’s a new update from discord

I can’t join ur server

But I can use ur emote

[worn marten]

ahh, awesome

[twilit pond]

I guess u can block it

[worn marten]

dont have to

[twilit pond]

Youpiii

I can use heo emote for beva now

@fossil dust

[worn marten]

nice, now i can steal emote from other

[twilit pond]

Yesss without need to join the server 🤣

But kem, if u want an emote you can draw it urself with ur talent 🤣

I love it

[worn marten]

yeah but im lazzzyy, spend time for WOV stuff

[twilit pond]

Kdkdskkddkd

For draw this hat

[worn marten]

nah that hat not for WOV, j4f

[twilit pond]

[torpid sparrow]

soviet anthem starts playing

[dusky perch]

only if u want to add private emojis

Fixed converted cursed or ww-fan not counting for werewolf challenges
i told flo about it and he just said its normal as challenge take your original role and now he say its fix?

[steep hinge]

@spice hedge , when is bandit going to be on quick game set-up?

[dawn cairn]

better not

[steep hinge]

why

[dawn cairn]

kinda complicated for qg
specially if Cupid ig

[plush hollow]

Cupid is not in the same set up with bandit usually in qg at least

[cinder oyster]

Oh but that one cupid bandit guranteed sb set up was so juicy...

[bitter pawn]

I want the fool to wear the Santa hat icon

[south charm]

someone suggested about wolf with reindeer's nose and how about berserk ww role icon with reindeer mask?? why we not make sth like these for a christmas 🎄🤔

and is there any server to put up personal costume ideas , many people have a very good idea but can't afford to draw it.

[mystic isle]

When is December calendar coming out

is today 27 or 28 November according to Wolvesville

[worn marten]

i could have different opinion for this comment

• "the point" is Christmas : not really, we celebrate Christmas usually about 2 week (12-14 days) but Winter (89-94 days).
• keep snowing/frozen for next year : then go back to 2022 we have outfit collection, calendar, lootbox, and many other thing for christmas already, i can't count cause too much.

This year we have 8 new icon and 4 of them are christmas theme already, so that balance, 4-4, and many other stuff for christmas that they didnt know.
relax

[steep vector]

bro is baiting fr

[south charm]

Sorry Kem if that comment makes u uncomfortable, I just left the photo there but don't completely agree with content in that, just wanna talk about some ideas for role icon. Btw, thanks for the thorough explanation, I will send it to the owner of the comment.

[worn marten]

dw

[dusky perch]

• not everyone celebrate xmas

[clear girder]

Where are the spoilers for the December calendar

[torpid sparrow]

I ate them 😋

Salem can confirm.

[clear girder]

No pls It's very important to my life

[dusky perch]

maybe its time for me to shine before lisa come up

wait me convert emojis

[slate hull]

Meh, differnece between bug and feature. It was technically not a bug since it was working as intended (hence my answer to you), but I've been conviced that it should count since

[olive prism]

We found the culprit, you ate the calendars

[dusky perch]

@robust elk u still jailed

[dusky perch]

its way better like that
i also noticed hero join count for challenge if u got role from challenge too

[torpid sparrow]

Ha

Based forger opinions got him jailed

[dusky perch]

meow meow

[next cedar]

Man sometimes I wish I have enough gems to by calenders, I just spend it all on cards tho

[dusky perch]

sometimes i wish i had kem's emojis

[clear girder]

Prettyy✨

[worn marten]

you can, by nitro

[dusky perch]

its still in beta i dont have pack things

[velvet depot]

😺

[next cedar]

I’m pretty sure they cancelled packs

[dusky perch]

they canceled free pack i saw

was one pack for none nitro then made it nitro only

with snow

[cloud cave]

Aura icon so pretty too

[slate estuary]

where is it?@cloud cave

[cloud cave]

wov outfits on ig

ill send it here if u want

[slate estuary]

yes

[bitter pawn]

ok

[mystic isle]

WOAH

[daring parcel]

not aura seer

[cloud cave]

huh rlly?

[daring parcel]

we already have bloody aura seer so why another one?

[last breach]

seer

[worn marten]

yeah its aura

[last breach]

actually can be aura also what..

[daring parcel]

seer app > aura

[last breach]

other roles also have multiple icons

[daring parcel]

seer app is better

aura worst info role

[bitter wadi]

why does poor aura gotta bleed on every icon

what was it

right,forgot

[worn marten]

snowcap

[bitter wadi]

imo its more balanced than the recent one

[daring parcel]

bc aura knows that aura is the worst seer role in the game

second worst info role sheriff

[glossy hatch]

nah thats cap

i get info every night

[daring parcel]

nope

[bitter wadi]

is worst informer for village to have

[daring parcel]

it's the truth

sorc is wolf team --

[bitter wadi]

but its still and informer,and bad for village to have

[daring parcel]

sorc is a good informer

[bitter wadi]

its bad for village to have

[daring parcel]

wolfi fan is the best role in the game

[bitter wadi]

is better

[daring parcel]

nope

wolfi fan is the best role

[glossy hatch]

(after insti)

[daring parcel]

insti is useless when bandit ig

wolfi fan the best role and I said multiple times why

[glossy hatch]

wwfan when vigi ig:

[bitter wadi]

wwfan when quick game

[daring parcel]

no

[glossy hatch]

(yes i won't hesitate if that means revealing fool)

[daring parcel]

nope

wo

fi fan best role

and .

wolf fan best role (not disscusable)

[steep hinge]

No

It will never be the best role

[daring parcel]

not disscusable

[daring parcel]

@steep hinge

[steep hinge]

Aw

[daring parcel]

as I said not disscusable so stop trying to change my mind

[steep hinge]

Can we discuss it later

[marsh wyvern]

Wolfie fan is best cursed advanced until they add lurker

I wonder if they will

[daring parcel]

wolfi fan > lurker > cursed > gr

[marsh wyvern]

Also welcome back lara

[daring parcel]

we all can agree on that

[daring parcel]

[marsh wyvern]

You're back from jail

[daring parcel]

--

[steep hinge]

Can we discuss it later

[bitter wadi]

yes discussable.

if it's not,then ritualist is the best role. neither is this discussable

[daring parcel]

nope I'm done

[fading fern]