speculations

[frozen summit]

Toxic is just a better berserk

[robust elk]

current ft has rolecall

[brisk heath]

I am tired of telling these low levels that they can fake cards

[brisk heath]

no.

[calm nimbus]

Nah not at all

[robust elk]

no?

[marsh wyvern]

It is slower though

[brisk heath]

Berserk is So good

[robust elk]

berserk for life

[brisk heath]

Toxic gets countered by bh

[calm nimbus]

Bersek is good ppl just activate day 1 and go on seer like noobs every game

[brisk heath]

it gives bh a free kill

[frozen summit]

Berserk too (in a way)

[dawn parcel]

Besides the golden icons are also revealed

[visual bone]

hmm i love hitting only seer with my berserk such a good role god bless

[brisk heath]

Activate d1 like a peo

pro

lol

[next cedar]

Not really, beserk has extra killpower and toxic pressures wolves to have a kill they might not like at that moment

[robust elk]

if you have random trapped yes but if no then no too

[visual bone]

since the card update came out i never saw a berserk get the frenzy off before they died

[marsh wyvern]

Guys we losing vote 2️⃣

[visual bone]

and if they did it never got an extra kill

[robust elk]

they deleted the votes

[marsh wyvern]

We already know 1 duh

[robust elk]

2 had 200

[frozen summit]

Why do people vote for 1️⃣

[brisk heath]

what is 1

[marsh wyvern]

Fr we already know 1

[next cedar]

Bug

[frozen summit]

I don’t

[calm nimbus]

Avatar sharing

[robust elk]

yeah

[marsh wyvern]

Is that thing you share your skin's code

[brisk heath]

...

[frozen summit]

That is useless imo

[marsh wyvern]

They accidentally announced it before

[brisk heath]

Why do peoples care about skin...

[marsh wyvern]

Somehow

[frozen summit]

Where and when

[robust elk]

2 and 4 look important

[brisk heath]

I want roles

[robust elk]

2 is new roles and 4 is balance changes as I know

[frozen summit]

3 is honor reason

[brisk heath]

I wanna see balance changes

[calm nimbus]

What are they

[frozen summit]

Me too

[calm nimbus]

The balances changes

[brisk heath]

We don t know

[frozen summit]

New roles ?

[robust elk]

2 is new roles obv and 4 looks like balance changes

[brisk heath]

if we vote 4 we can learn

[frozen summit]

Voted for 2 4

[robust elk]

kimberly confirmed spy and lurker will be tested again

[brisk heath]

I think theu will release Toxşc ww and ft ig

or spy who know

[frozen summit]

Yeah but siren 100% is coming

[robust elk]

and locksmith + anarchist will be tested again

[calm nimbus]

Storm ww is getting buff apparently but idk about others

[robust elk]

ft toxic and siren

[brisk heath]

HOW YOU KNOW

[robust elk]

it is obv

[calm nimbus]

Salem mentionned here

[robust elk]

who is salem

[calm nimbus]

All abilities merged into one with two uses

[frozen summit]

Ft adv ?
Toxic adv shadow
Siren adv arso ?

[brisk heath]

salem is the main mpd

[calm nimbus]

Salem cat I think is her name

[marsh wyvern]

@brisk heath @frozen summit

[brisk heath]

ft lm advanced

[visual bone]

lmao

no one will play ft

[frozen summit]

Salem is @dusky perch

[visual bone]

its a role that barely exists as it is

if its competing with ave? pff

[marsh wyvern]

They accidentally announced it before somehow

[brisk heath]

Storm wolf is op

in right hands

a buff will be chaotic

Storm wolf > vodoo

I like it when wolfs cooparate to give fake infos

[calm nimbus]

Nope

Strom wolf trash

[brisk heath]

then you just shuffle

[frozen summit]

Not quite bc people qho have good mind can remember who the evils are when shuffle

[brisk heath]

it looks so funny

[frozen summit]

Happened to me

[brisk heath]

in sb lobbies they are so dumb

[robust elk]

we gave 5 infos one time fon

[brisk heath]

they can t understand what is what

[robust elk]

I was wwf and patates was storm and there was 5 rsv claims

[frozen summit]

In spanish qg there are players that remember everyone’s place and its a counter for storm

[robust elk]

6*

[brisk heath]

the problem is

in sandbox lobbies

they enter a game

and go off to cook the dinner

[frozen summit]

yh

[calm nimbus]

You lucky if that happened to you

[robust elk]

golden shrimp they said

[calm nimbus]

Somehow every time I am storm wolf every remembers my skin and name and I get busted every time, so I just play voodoo now

[frozen summit]

Basic siren icon > golden siren icon

[visual bone]

nah, golden better

[dawn parcel]

rainbow siren makes no sense

[visual bone]

looks like buttered shrimp

[frozen summit]

But looks prettier

[visual bone]

migth as well give the wolves sparkly tiaras and rainbow stickers

[dawn parcel]

😭

[frozen summit]

[brisk heath]

I think they must do a thing about

[visual bone]

some icons shouldnt be pretty, we are talking about someone that is against the whole of village and wolves

[marsh wyvern]

Maybe you should use it to ruin information like at day 3 so villagers can't say they were confirmed good rather than trying to save a werewolf.

[brisk heath]

the 3 adv roles

[dawn parcel]

Jelly could help them with that

[brisk heath]

some roles has 3 advanced

[visual bone]

this looks cool and dangerous

[robust elk]

I sent a notifier to general so they vote 2

[visual bone]

what does this evoke

[frozen summit]

[brisk heath]

this is a work of art

[marsh wyvern]

There was a rainbow wolf idea too i believe

[brisk heath]

kimberly do you have any idea about balance changes??

[dawn parcel]

sadly no

[brisk heath]

:c

[robust elk]

masterpiece

[brisk heath]

Will baker get buffed

I really wonder

[dawn parcel]

wait let me

spy in vote and check if I can predict smth

[robust elk]

can you send where you saw spy and lurker being tested

[brisk heath]

my predictions are

[dawn parcel]

Perhaps Insti aura change Good > Unk when recruits are dead

[marsh wyvern]

Well there's few i know, nerf, and change.

[brisk heath]

what are those

[robust elk]

confusion should get the nerf of = roles killed by only ww will be hidden

[brisk heath]

I think they will make wolffluencer can t abuse only 1 person

[visual bone]

to make confus balanced just make it so when confus die all roles get revealed

[dawn parcel]

just give wolfflu the voodoo gg treatment yes

[marsh wyvern]

Confusion getting a nerf so the killer's kills won't be hidden. Wolffluencer and storm wolf getting a role compatibility change.

[brisk heath]

hmm

[visual bone]

if they change wolflu to shadow they cant nerf it any further

[brisk heath]

but Wolffluencer is good as a jww advanced

NO

[calm nimbus]

Oh I understand

Wolffluencer advanced of shadow

[brisk heath]

DON T MAKE WOLFFLU SHADOW ADVANCED

wtf

[calm nimbus]

Bersek advanced of toxic

[calm nimbus]

Why

The combo is op asf

[brisk heath]

it will be so ridiculous

[visual bone]

power level is too different

[robust elk]

WOLFLU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SHADOW

[brisk heath]

Berserk and shadow are supposed to out someone give an extra kill

[dawn parcel]

wolfflu is too weak for shadow adv

[calm nimbus]

Wofflu has even less to do with jww

[visual bone]

true, voting wolf and voting have have 0 similarities

[brisk heath]

Exactly

[frozen summit]

Nor with jww

[calm nimbus]

Wtf n

[marsh wyvern]

No quite the opposite, toxic is advanced berserk it's harder to use

[brisk heath]

no

[tranquil comet]

are these real screenshots?

[robust elk]

Wolflu is a balancing role like jww

[dawn parcel]

yes

[brisk heath]

Wolffluencer and jww balances the game for wolfs

[robust elk]

wolflu balances the game

[calm nimbus]

Wolffluencer is the second strongest ww after split

[dawn parcel]

back when Siren and Tww got added their icons got leaked in the setups

same with ft

[robust elk]

if wolflu becomes shadow advanced the game will f up

[brisk heath]

Ye

[robust elk]

I wouldnt try to get wolflu

why would I

shadow better anyways

[marsh wyvern]

Can split win 1v3 at day time? No. So wolffluencer is the strongest wolf in the game.

[brisk heath]

it will be so weak

[robust elk]

wolflu rewads best if he lives

[dawn parcel]

I wouldn't call wolfflu strong

[brisk heath]

is it useful when you die d1 no?

[dawn parcel]

since it's always the "weakest" ww in setups

[marsh wyvern]

That's why it's an advanced role

[calm nimbus]

I think only balancing factor of wolfflu is that it gets found first by sheriff bh etc so if they make it shadow advanced theyre gonna have to nerf it

[dawn parcel]

based on ww strength for certain checks and bh

[robust elk]

wolflu is balanced as it is

[calm nimbus]

But wolfflu doesnt kill when dying

[marsh wyvern]

Weakest wolf tree is somehow the strongest

[calm nimbus]

Yes

[robust elk]

woflu does balancing

[brisk heath]

Jww tree is meant to balance the situations

like 5vs3 situations

[robust elk]

like if you kill jww adios amigo ww win and wolflu does that better than jww if alive

[calm nimbus]

Yall just inventing stuff as advanced roles releasedo

[brisk heath]

if you make wolffluencer shadow advanced it wont pass the early game

[marsh wyvern]

Sure but if both are going to die then they can't use their side abilities which is double ww for split and vote fluence for wolffluencer

[robust elk]

I would never ever get wolflu if they brought that

[calm nimbus]

If wolfflu was advanced of shadow you would say "jww tree is about death activation abilities and shadow tree is about voting"

[marsh wyvern]

And then split dies as jww while wolffluencer dies as reg ww

[dawn parcel]

technically it would since wolfflu wouldn't die from bh first anymore

[robust elk]

shadow tree is about killing someone specific

[pallid rune]

so balance

[tranquil comet]

either way something is gonna get added as shadow’s second advanced role because shadow is the only ww that has a single advanced role

[robust elk]

toxic

ezy pezy

no need for role tree change

[marsh wyvern]

If you separate berserk and shadow it no longer will be correct

[robust elk]

yes

[calm nimbus]

Someone said wolfflu tree change so I believe wolfflu is advanced of shadow with a small nerf and toxic is advanced of bersek

[robust elk]

and role trees will be messed up like aww

[dawn parcel]

both still kill

[calm nimbus]

Jww also kills

[marsh wyvern]

Wolffluencer can kill as well

[calm nimbus]

So what

[brisk heath]

I think the role trees are as good as it is

[robust elk]

only aww role tree is a bit weird

[calm nimbus]

Nah they could use some changes especially for wolves

[tranquil comet]

im kind of neutral on tree splitting for the moment and I don’t see it as being popular option imo

[robust elk]

other than that every role tree has kept their core aspects

[tranquil comet]

compared to something like moving Seer App to being a Sheriff advanced role

[brisk heath]

@dawn parcel and Ghost lady buff you predict :3 ?????

[marsh wyvern]

Wolffluencer can kill multiple people after some point

[calm nimbus]

Summoner advanced of stubborn, storm advanced of alpha, wolfflu advanced of shadow

[robust elk]

that is needed

[calm nimbus]

Would be good changes

[dawn parcel]

Wolves are perfectly balanced in my eyes apart from cww

Vill roles are the only ones needing nerfs

[robust elk]

wolflu not advanced of shadow

[calm nimbus]

Why

[dawn parcel]

Gl won't be buffed

[brisk heath]

aww also

[calm nimbus]

They are both strong and are used for voting changes

[robust elk]

it saying like lady and visiting connects gl and rl

[marsh wyvern]

That would be great

[calm nimbus]

People say that

Lmao

[tranquil comet]

ghost lady doesn’t need changes I’m fine with how it currently is

[robust elk]

but they dont

[calm nimbus]

What is it then

[robust elk]

and current wolflu is well designed

[brisk heath]

Ghost lady must be Bodyguard advanced

[dawn parcel]

no?

[calm nimbus]

No its too strong

[brisk heath]

and Tough guy must be rl advanced

[marsh wyvern]

It's too weak for bg

[robust elk]

If played well

[robust elk]

with 2 saves

[brisk heath]

Buff it :3

[calm nimbus]

Yes of course

[calm nimbus]

Well exaclty

So its too strongp

[quaint hamlet]

bruh stop trying to make storm all this random stuff 😭 storm and shadow hide voting, let storm be shadow adv, then when toxic comes, let toxic be base to berserk or vise versa

[brisk heath]

the only thing I want is a Ghost mommy buff

[robust elk]

and skill = value is a fact

[dawn parcel]

Gl is perfectly fine as rl advanced and so is tg for bg

[brisk heath]

....

[dawn parcel]

the only thing I still don't understand is seer app as bg adv

[calm nimbus]

Gl is perfectly fine pls dont ruin it

[tranquil comet]

🥱 when are they removing gambler’s village checks

[dawn parcel]

gambler has to earn those imo

[robust elk]

I love gl when I tank 5 attacks

[dawn parcel]

not gaining them from night 1

[brisk heath]

so I think

nerf

[tranquil comet]

it doesn’t even need them imo

solo checks are worthless when u have village checks

[brisk heath]

nerf

[calm nimbus]

I hope but I dont see it happening

[pallid rune]

b a l a n c e

[brisk heath]

These will be thnigs

[dawn parcel]

only nerf I can see happen for astro is new moon can only be activated during discussion

[brisk heath]

Bc for some reason community finds astro op

[calm nimbus]

Butcher nerf anytime soon???

[quaint hamlet]

dont touch that puppy

[calm nimbus]

Probably because it is???

[brisk heath]

say bye to emo wolf

[quaint hamlet]

lEaVe mY dOGgIEee

[dawn parcel]

it's a free confirm + kill

[calm nimbus]

And team blocker

[brisk heath]

are we playing other games

bc in my games astronomer kill random n2

[tranquil comet]

astro on release allowing 2 voting phases and being a jailer advanced was an idea I had in the past even though I still despised astro in general

[marsh wyvern]

Butcher needs a rework who tf agreed to add this role it's just for

[brisk heath]

and tell us that since they die they can t be reported

[tranquil comet]

yeah thats an L bro

[dawn parcel]

no matter what people say to me

[tranquil comet]

why even kill as astro even

[calm nimbus]

Imo butcher would be perfect with 4 meats

[dawn parcel]

testing Astro was the most balanced one

[tranquil comet]

u just have to click new moon

u win

[robust elk]

hell naw man making it 1 more than nwm

[brisk heath]

SOME OF THEM DOESN T EVEN USE THE MOON D1 👿

[calm nimbus]

And it was still somehow strong

[pallid rune]

can protect attack from
but can't

[calm nimbus]

Because of provability day 1

[quaint hamlet]

butcher already has a nerf: dying before day 3

[marsh wyvern]

4 isn't enough even the night watchman have 3 protections

[calm nimbus]

But astro proves day 1 and confirms save from ww

[calm nimbus]

Nwm needs nerf too lol

[robust elk]

when I am bully I say f u

[brisk heath]

night watch man is doctor seer

[tranquil comet]

I had a funny butcher buff to neutralise the nerf to 4 meats but even i think it’s ridiculous lol

[marsh wyvern]

Nerf doctor as well so she can't protect same player consecutive nights.

[brisk heath]

I think when you use all of the protections you shouldn t be able to see it anymore

[calm nimbus]

No wtff

[tranquil comet]

Can someone help me improve my Butcher change idea:

You have four meats that you can give to another player at night to defend them from an attack. You can protect multiple players in one night. If you successfully defend a player from an attack you will not consume any meat, otherwise all used meat at night will be consumed

I gave Butcher a slight buff to compensate the main nerf idea to decrease amount of starting meats. I’m also lacking a unique way to make evils able to claim Butcher as all I can think of is having an excuse that you ran out of meats and so thats why u aren’t protecting

[quaint hamlet]

nwm can no longer protect multple people at once, its only once a night now, and you cant see exact roles. you can only "see" when bh, trapper, warden, or jailor are protecting because it pops up as soon as the night starts while others have to wait a bit

[tranquil comet]

it doesn’t really help with its claim profile but it adds gambling

which is always fun 🤣

[dawn parcel]

Or make the passive from nwm an ability instead

[brisk heath]

uhm they will just abuse the meats

[dawn parcel]

With one or two uses

[tranquil comet]

yeah like u can protect 4 people at night and if any gets attacked u just boomerang and get all 4 meats back

but if none get attacked

u lose all ur meat

so its like gambling

[brisk heath]

ok don t care

[tranquil comet]

🤣

[brisk heath]

just abuse meats

[marsh wyvern]

Nwm never had these wtf?

[quaint hamlet]

it did-

[tranquil comet]

also ur comment is sus

[quaint hamlet]

unless if they were bugs

[brisk heath]

what exact role..

[marsh wyvern]

Never

[brisk heath]

uhm have you ever played nwm?

[quaint hamlet]

ive used multiple shields in a night before

yes

then another time up to now i can no longer use several

[tranquil comet]

president games with night watchman are very interesting I must say 🤣

[marsh wyvern]

I think you thought nwm can see specific protection just because a skilled player said x player was jailed.

[brisk heath]

and about the role tree change

fix first

[calm nimbus]

You argued nwm was balanced so your opinion are from now on invalid

[quaint hamlet]

no, with the 2nd one, i know you could never see the role protecting

im saying becayse you cant see exacts, its not overpowered

[brisk heath]

it is overpowered

[quaint hamlet]

they dont last beyond night 2

[calm nimbus]

Yes cause debunking all fake protector claims isnt op at all

[dawn parcel]

Make seer app Rl or Sheriff advanced

Idk

[calm nimbus]

?

[brisk heath]

if a protector knows what they are doing they can prove themselves to nwm Night 1

[quaint hamlet]

but most dont

i do

[brisk heath]

ok it is still op

[calm nimbus]

Good luck faking bh or doc as ww if nwm is ig

[brisk heath]

you can t fake any protector role

[quaint hamlet]

i got away with claiming trapper with nwm ig

[brisk heath]

Diagnosis : skill issue

[quaint hamlet]

with flagger ig so i claim rrv trapper

[pallid rune]

no need to change tree of is to force the player
force death
force convert
force vote

[quaint hamlet]

thats on yall if you cant find a strat

[robust elk]

and you cant get away with any rrv claim

[tranquil comet]

in President games theres an exception because you can add a lot of anti protector evils in the setup that don’t necessarily have to be berserk levels of broken such as jww/nww (jww can’t tag pres) and NWM apart from confirming real from fake protectors has to juggle who protects who and make sure Pres is protected at all times

[brisk heath]

there are some gmaes where people go like

[quaint hamlet]

you can also often force watchman to claim early so you can kill them

just find a strategy that works, theyre beatable

[brisk heath]

"claim night watch man both of the rrvs are protectors"

[calm nimbus]

But president is only in customs, in a regular setting nwm is one of the most op roles in existence

[brisk heath]

"rrv aura claim is fake"

nwm and butcher has the power of rsv s

[quaint hamlet]

its not op if it always dies early

[brisk heath]

every role can die d1

[quaint hamlet]

if it dies that fast it cant excerise

[brisk heath]

so sk is the most op role

[tranquil comet]

watch the copers say its the problem of the multiple protectors spawning in the first place like the village automatically trusts they exist 🤡

[brisk heath]

can t die n1

[fleet hawk]

with being rrv

[quaint hamlet]

its often a protector that dies soon

[brisk heath]

I saw triple trapper

[calm nimbus]

"Rrv med isnt op because med can die n1"

This is your current reasoning

[brisk heath]

"rrv bomber op can t die n1"

[tranquil comet]

yes its not the fault of nwm that it confirmed all the protectors its just that all the rrv being protectors is already op and ww didnt stand a chance at all 🤓😐

i hate sandbox

[quaint hamlet]

watchman is a gamble

[pallid rune]

is info role not protector role

[calm nimbus]

Nwm in ranked would be funny ngl

95% winrate

[brisk heath]

1 point when you win

[quaint hamlet]

rare instances, and just cuz people can be seen, dont mean everyones gonna ve protected

[brisk heath]

-300 when you lose

[tranquil comet]

POV theres 6 ww on your team and 2 of them happened to be alpha ww

[brisk heath]

when the 20 lvl plays ranked and doesn t claim warden d1

[quaint hamlet]

like other roles, nwm requires a specific set up to be good

[calm nimbus]

You created that setup though 😂

[quaint hamlet]

its just a weaker doctor if nwm is the only prot

[brisk heath]

no

[calm nimbus]

No

[tranquil comet]

double RWW is both funny and depressing at the same time 🤣

[brisk heath]

limişted protection is nothing

[quaint hamlet]

even bh can be op, like if toxic is ig, just trap the seer and thats a free wolf kill

[calm nimbus]

Cause you still cant fake any protector as ww even if nwm is the only protector

[fleet hawk]

Its a wolf family now no more team

[robust elk]

bh is already op

[brisk heath]

Why peoples act like limited protection is bad

do you save everyday as doctor?

no

[calm nimbus]

Cause they use it every night they can like noobs

[quaint hamlet]

you can...

[robust elk]

we saw what gl looked like in siren setup

[brisk heath]

Peoples who protect seer as doc 🤡

[robust elk]

with 1 prot it was the most annoying to face

[calm nimbus]

Explain how pls

Your only chance is killing the nwm

[tranquil comet]

you act like the majority of the casual player base doesn’t do this 💀

[brisk heath]

or a dumb

[quaint hamlet]

ive had plenty games as nwm where ive pushed people who claim doc because there were no protections but they were the real doc and assumed nwm would protect first ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[calm nimbus]

But thats the same as saying "the best way to counter astro is to kill him"

[calm nimbus]

Doc skill issue

[brisk heath]

where did I mention that majority of the casual players (including me) aren t clowns

[quaint hamlet]

or if ur risky, claim nwm, then push the real one and still a day for urself

[brisk heath]

we are all clowns

[fleet hawk]

I once accused a bh coupled with nwm by faking nwm and said the bh didnt have trap ☝️🤓 village trusted me and lynched the couple, ww win

[quaint hamlet]

or make a soft claim, let real nwm be louder, and kill em

[calm nimbus]

Ok, nwm says all protection, the protectors confirm him, you die

[brisk heath]

Sis it is like fake claiming conjuror while there is a dead gunner

[quaint hamlet]

then you say some fake protectors too

[brisk heath]

you sign a death contract

[calm nimbus]

And no one will confirm you

[robust elk]

you cant claim any rrv it deadlocks any role calim

[quaint hamlet]

if you know who rk is, say theyre bh and rk will be on ur side for a moment

[robust elk]

rrv,protecters it deadlocks them

[quaint hamlet]

or fool

[brisk heath]

no.

[calm nimbus]

Then when real nwm gets voted you are both revealed as fake

[brisk heath]

Trust me sand box solo killers never cooparate

[quaint hamlet]

or that you were lucky

[brisk heath]

they go like

[quaint hamlet]

you dont have rizz then

[calm nimbus]

When I play sb I feel like rks just spin a wheel to decide who to kill next...

[brisk heath]

"wHy WoUld I tRusT A wOlF"

[brisk heath]

"why do I always kill wolf "

Alchemist players giving random RED POTION

while seer is alive

[calm nimbus]

Lmao

I feel like the worst ones are corr

[quaint hamlet]

trapper is best claim with watchman ig.. havent been nwm with forg yet so idk about that

[tranquil comet]

village and ww shouldn’t have to put their faith in who RK should kill next. I agree that RK has good and bad kills and whatever happens to the RK based on their kills is completely their fault but as village and WW you should not have to add RK as part of your calculations in winning thr game

[calm nimbus]

Idk why it's always corrs that end up killing like 3 wolves in 5 nights

[tranquil comet]

RK is a threat that has to be killed as soon as possible in order for it to not have a chance in influencing the rest of the game

[brisk heath]

no but as solo killer it is necessary to keep the balance between the village and wolfs

[fleet hawk]

“Report alchemist for random killing”

[quaint hamlet]

or say bh but ww keeps killing who u trap and act pissed about it

[calm nimbus]

In sb it's basically impossible to win without the help of rk

Ww have to deal with astro trapper and butcher, rk is needed for them to win

[brisk heath]

so you have to keep track of who is good and who is unconfirmed

AND MOSTLY

sandbox arsonist s are a nightmare

they NEVER kill

[quaint hamlet]

in ranked, watchman was ig, i claimed trapper (as ww) and nwm protected me from rk

[dusk hemlock]

wth nwm is in ranked now?

[brisk heath]

They save the douses for the next game

[fleet hawk]

They either dont kill or kill 1 player on night 3

[calm nimbus]

No

[tranquil comet]

yeah and it is a sad truth. my recent setup ideas focus around the ethics that RK kills are not a requirement for a team to win and that by a teams own skill of deduction and deceptions they can win without the aid of a third party influencing the game

[calm nimbus]

Bro is just lying

[dusk hemlock]

😂

[calm nimbus]

Bro said two roles that arent even in ranked 💀💀💀

[brisk heath]

does this happened in your dream?

[quaint hamlet]

i was sure it was ranked

[dusk hemlock]

cap 📸

[brisk heath]

Trapper and nwm both banned

Ban

[quaint hamlet]

there was trapper in it last week ☠️

[calm nimbus]

Once there was a bug with every role in ranked but it would be very unlikely you played during those two hours

[tranquil comet]

the high court finds you guilty of treason

[quaint hamlet]

last week i played nothing but ranked, there was a trapper

[tranquil comet]

https://tenor.com/view/town-of-salem-2-prosecutor-tos2-tos-2-town-of-salem-gif-6687083692775139643

[calm nimbus]

💀💀💀💀

[brisk heath]

sis you got caught in 4k

[calm nimbus]

You mean 6 ww setup right?

[tranquil comet]

all setups

[quaint hamlet]

can you please stop saying stuff like that..

[calm nimbus]

Oh ok

[calm nimbus]

It's just a joke

But trapper isnt in ranked

[brisk heath]

ok out of content but

your profile photo looks like Baljit

but in a shrek form

[tranquil comet]

RK does well when it has helpers around, whether it be conversion, third party roles or other ways to win on their own, including by stacking (going greedy) deception (hiding roles/info), and anything else besides king maker scenarios which unfortunately are inevitable in a lot of cases

[quaint hamlet]

im still certain ive seen trapper in a ranked game

[calm nimbus]

I mean once I saw astro get triple kill in ranked by killing avenger, himself, and avenger tagged aura seer astro was in ranked due to a nug

[tranquil comet]

Fool / Cupid setups are more advantageous for RK for obvious purposes

[calm nimbus]

Show proof

[quaint hamlet]

i didnt ss it

[tranquil comet]

Lurker has major potential to bolster RK winning chances

[quaint hamlet]

i didnt think any role was banned from it

except pres

[brisk heath]

solo killer fan

[tranquil comet]

and Insti as well as Bandit + advances have higher win rates due to not really being solo

[calm nimbus]

Either you lie or you played advanced and forgor

[quaint hamlet]

i know its rare to show up but thats al

adv is dead

[calm nimbus]

It's not rare

Literally impossible

[brisk heath]

RARE?

%33

1/3

[dusk hemlock]

what 😂

even roles like paci or mayor are banned

[tranquil comet]

roles such as Insti and WWF are better built for games that don’t have an RK because they are able to cause enough chaos to have that displacement

[fleet hawk]

#speculations slowly becoming the new #wov-chat

[quaint hamlet]

i assume all roles would be unlocked under ranked because its advanced players

[brisk heath]

even baker is banned

[quaint hamlet]

how do you even know which ones r banned

[calm nimbus]

I wished baker and forger werent banned I think theyre pretty cool but I get why they are banned

[brisk heath]

there is a lisr

[calm nimbus]

It says it

And experience

[tranquil comet]

6 ww flat is pretty much impossible to win for village but if the 6th wolf is werewolf fan, its a hit or miss really whether the ww fan is able to eventually identify the wolves and work with them early

[brisk heath]

they shouldn t be

[dusk hemlock]

it shows in the role list

[brisk heath]

baker and forger are roles that you need to find a person that you can trust

[calm nimbus]

Roles like Sorc is banned from random but can appear as fixed

[dusk hemlock]

forger can be a pretty cool role if adapted in correct setup

[brisk heath]

even president is banned due to it being op !

[dusk hemlock]

mm+forger maybe

[quaint hamlet]

i was sure ive seen it there tho ☠️

[tranquil comet]

the problem is that its an RRV role so can cause confusion if it only appears as a fixed role

[robust elk]

bully and sorc was seen

[calm nimbus]

From my experience I didnt see too much confusion

[dusk hemlock]

it can work as a fixed role but not rrv

like an rsv

because it is close to rsv power tbh

[fleet hawk]

This must be why they banned bww as random ww

[calm nimbus]

It aint that op thh

Info ww as random arent op except for sorc due to good aura

[brisk heath]

blind ww is sometimes so annoying

[calm nimbus]

You said you played as night watchman in ranked, correct?

[tranquil comet]

forger is also a role whose identity is completely based on trust. a setup that is designed around not being able to confirm anybody is really hard theres usually always one person the forger can give an item too which is safe, and besides all the mindgames theres no other skill than to know who to kill with the sword which tbh isn’t your problem since your handing that kill power over to somebody else

[quaint hamlet]

i havent played as it, i thought i seen it

[calm nimbus]

Ah cause you couldve proven by going to sp log and seeing if you did play a game as a banned role

[dusk hemlock]

thats literally impossible though

[calm nimbus]

Ya

I mean once I played as butcher in ranked, if I can find the account I played on I will show ss

[fleet hawk]

Why does assassin even has a reason to exist in ranked

[dusk hemlock]

assassin is what role?

in the hangman gamemode?

[calm nimbus]

Yes 💀

[tranquil comet]

yeah that was when butcher got first released, there was always that buggy period where released roles appeared in ranked random

[calm nimbus]

Yep

flashbacks to rrv conj

[quaint hamlet]

i am tripping so hard

this game got me twisted, i swear on my non existant yeezies there was am astro in ranked ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[calm nimbus]

I saw astro multiple times

I can show ss

[quaint hamlet]

ok good im tripping that much

[tranquil comet]

I personally pick Blind WW for casual games as it lets me kill Medium/Seer/Vigi/(jailer) faster and let me go on with my business and I can know all third party roles to deal with them earlier as well. If you know how to deal with weak RRV roles and claims then it should be a no brainer how to play with the role

despite its main weakness being strong RRV and protectorrs

[calm nimbus]

That was ranked

[tranquil comet]

as it has no way to tell these roles

[hybrid thicket]

Liked how gambler was added too without announcement 😂

[calm nimbus]

Its funnier without announcements

[hybrid thicket]

When was that

[quaint hamlet]

[calm nimbus]

In the first few days all rrv gamblers get lynched because people think they are fake

[calm nimbus]

March 23rd

[hybrid thicket]

4 sure no better way to announce than by lynching gam 😂

[calm nimbus]

Same day old ft was rrv

It was the same bug

[tranquil comet]

I have the only archive

where somehow

against all odds

you’ll never guess

what role won in ranked

basically 0.001% encounter

[calm nimbus]

Also this: (not my ss)

[mortal panther]

Rare sighting

[cinder oyster]

The golden zb²

[woven surge]

@calm nimbus Stay respectful to others

[regal nova]

wh

I have been bamboozled

[half citrus]

#dev-vote message
fish bone icon... wait, is that the shrimpy 's kill ability?

[lone spade]

well, that icon definitely doesn’t help with my sushi craving rn :D

[half citrus]

BAHAHA

but yeah, who eats fish bone anyway

[lone spade]

lmao xD

[steady quiver]

#dev-vote

1. Avatar code sharing
2. Siren and ft(?) Or toxic wolf
3. Honor ss2 ( side eyes )
4. Idk role adjustment ?

[regal nova]

i hope honor has more implications & rules

[steady quiver]

same, for exemple : do not honor trade

[regal nova]

lil sad borders won't be a thing

[regal nova]

yea highkey fuck HTing

[half citrus]

hope no more "honor trade" message appear on my eyesight

[dim trout]

Honor

[regal nova]

i hope not ft

[half citrus]

same

[regal nova]

the ONLY thing ft had going for it was it's novel strength

and they took it away

[dim trout]

I wanna see

[regal nova]

so it's just mayor #3

[regal nova]

i think not broken gr night be a cool addition too

[lusty gull]

What do you guys think about 4 (#dev-vote message)

Maybe the new game mode for gems?

[daring gust]

4 gotta be api related #1125400919207596102 message

[calm nimbus]

Iet's vote 4 next

[calm nimbus]

Oh

Then idc about 4 😒

[coarse sedge]

Could be role adjustment though 🫠

3 seem like one of those cosmetic thingy

[daring gust]

3 is honor

[steady quiver]

afik only storm wolf is reworked

hmmmmm

[coarse sedge]

Better be worth it
Storm is kinda being countered very easy rn
Despite I came up a lot of strat for it

[torpid sparrow]

1. The outfit share thing
2. New roles
3. Honor season2
4. API stuff

I think

[real coral]

Dev: please vote whether we should remove honor or not
Players: remove it
Dev: ok! (adds honor season 2 anyway)

[steady quiver]

sigh

[lusty gull]

with the rework it can actually be a nice feature

[fresh sail]

Honor season 2?? Oh boy imma grind for whole fr3aking day for honors

[short epoch]

f the game with honor

[steady quiver]

I fear the honor system

I'm gonna become blind by the time it ends

[valid slate]

Bruh why do people vote for siren

It'll just steal your alch card

Also 4th looks much more intresting

[steady quiver]

When will they post the sneak peek

[fathom cobalt]

PLS they are adding siren 😭

Why

[steady quiver]

Siren and honor both wanna make me uninstall

[fathom cobalt]

Yeah

"wAnNa hoNOr TrAde?"

[tropic blade]

sure

[steady quiver]

hmmmmm

maybe 3 new roles will get update ?

cuz i saw 3 role cards

[signal crystal]

yes

last september they added 3 roles

and this is a big update

[solar ravine]

Dev : hmmm, how to make people never go afk
Dev :

[dawn parcel]

it's only avatar items

no cards gems frames etc

[steady quiver]

Not even a single rolecard... that's just sad

[dawn parcel]

it's honestly for the better imo

[steady quiver]

Hopefully they make the requirements easier this time at least, not like 2500 per tier like last time 💀

[dawn parcel]

it would slightly reduce the bst players grinding 24/7

[dawn parcel]

I really hope so too

[charred drift]

Update!

Avatar Codes[1]:
You will be able to share your avatars with your friends or copy theirs in the profile menu!

New Roles[2]:

• Lurker (Advanced of cursed)
• Toxic wolf (Advanced of shadow)
• Siren (Advanced of arsonist)

Honor Season 2 starts![3]:

The second honor season will start within this battle pass season including exclusive rewards like profile frames and items (including the item on the medieval overview)!
This means, at the end of games, you will be able to select a player who you think played a good game, giving them honor points. With those honor points you unlock rewards. The second honor season will last 3 months.

Disclaimer! Honor seasons may be changed/adjusted, or discontinued. There may be changes to the details of honor season 1 until release as well

4 - idk

[tropic blade]

I will still honor trade

[burnt ginkgo]

I really had a hard time with the Honor System. If this really is coming back, I hope it's lesser in it's target count or maybe higher in receiving honor this time.

[mint shell]

Someone should put honors in clan quest or something too, and we still have honor2honor 😭

And hi Kim 💗

Hi everyone 💗

[mint shell]

And I miss that golden hoodie

[dawn cairn]

Roles confirmed?

[charred drift]

no its speculation

[dawn cairn]

Well they normally add at least x1 village role

[dim trout]

Honor system

[dawn cairn]

if spy released guess it check 3 instead of 4

[dawn parcel]

Spy still needs to be tested

It will most likely be Ft

If not it will be Lurker

[dawn cairn]

Tbh lurker is the most ready role to release

[dawn parcel]

Lurker is still useless

Siren needs a buff not a nerf lol

[dawn cairn]

Ft only make things worse for village

[dawn parcel]

Siren is the worst arso advanced

It doesnt even bypass prot

[dawn cairn]

Huh

[dawn parcel]

I told you about ft

[dawn cairn]

Well i have alchi ill go for siren

Hopefully bb stay away

[signal crystal]

siren and ft

the worst roles

ft has literally no sense

also siren

[dawn cairn]

Guess ft will have buff eventually

at least siren is fun

[granite compass]

I don’t think it’s weak, maybe it doesn’t have the best mechanics but it’s a role that’s easy to confirm, just give away your cards and say “6 13 have cards” and they can confirm you by using them (unless their evil and want to counter that), that doesn’t happen with Loudmouth and/or any of their advanced roles currently.

[signal crystal]

it seems like they had a meeting thinking what were the worst roles to add. Literally Detective and Shadow ww have only one adv, so spy and toxic wuold be better.

[tranquil comet]

aaaa im dying

😂💀

[dawn cairn]

Some would say weaker br

[dawn parcel]

Spy needs a hard nerf so I'm glad

[signal crystal]

oh yes now we have 2/3 arso adv that are totally useless

[dawn cairn]

spy is rsv, checking 3 ppl instead of 4 will be fine

[signal crystal]

Spy its easy to nerf. Its enough reduce to 4 player to 3 , they could do like bully and add it .

the worst update ever

bad roles

honor come back

[dawn cairn]

Tbh glad toxic ww didn't make it

[dawn parcel]

Next roles will prob be with and with

[signal crystal]

bah

[signal crystal]

it was better than siren or ft

[whole bolt]

So they wont buff ft and just release ft like that?

[dawn cairn]

or they test other roles

[whole bolt]

Hell nah im not getting ft card

[signal crystal]

the worst update ever

(for roles)

[dawn cairn]

well i didn't like it, ft n siren can be fun

[dawn parcel]

Tbf idc what people say but I'll get ft and play it 24/7

[dawn cairn]

Avg above all

[signal crystal]

Siren is fun but weaker that arso alche and bomb. Ft has no sense and when u give your two cards u cannot do anything for the rest of the game. And bellringer and avenger are better

[whole bolt]

Oh i just thought of another use of ft card. To claim when gunner ask u but u got muted that day rare situation

[signal crystal]

That was the worst roles to add.

[dawn parcel]

Literally br becomes useless after one of the tagged players dies so your argument is invalid

[whole bolt]

Still better than ft

Ft is just useless

[dusky perch]

toxic was better than ft

[tropic blade]

lurker >

(I can gamethrow)

[dawn cairn]

idk how siren is weaker than bb, but agree with the rest

[tropic blade]

siren does not fit as a solo

and idk why lurker isnt being added being a far superior role

[dawn parcel]

Cuz Lurker is non vill

[signal crystal]

yes but at least bellringer doesn't use his power right away and then sits still for the rest of the game. At least a couple of nights go by. With ft it's better to give the two cards as soon as you can and then you're done. So ur argument is invalid.

[dawn cairn]

Which is not gamethrow

[dawn parcel]

There wont be 2 non vill roles added at the same time

[short epoch]

avg still best

[signal crystal]

yes

toxic spy and lurker were better

[dusky perch]

agree
ft just give cards and force them to reveal

[tropic blade]

I cant do it as cursed

nor as gr

nor as wwf

[dusky perch]

as br u need to think who to select cuz u may reveal seer 💀

[dawn cairn]

U can as wwf

what happened to LS anyway

role died

[dawn parcel]

Ls is still being tested

[signal crystal]

ft has bad mechanics, pointless usage, and boring gameplay. Siren is weak but at least is fun

[dawn cairn]

Would be better as bh advance

[dawn parcel]

Exactly

[dawn cairn]

won't kill evil but protect both instead

[torpid sparrow]

@tranquil comet SEE, THEY ARE RK AGAIN

[dawn cairn]

And take 1 night to recover

[dawn parcel]

Ls isnt hopeless

Anarchist yes

[dawn cairn]

Ana hopeless not ls

anyway wanna see new roles testing, it's kinda been a while

[tranquil comet]

did u guys read my locksmith rework

[dawn parcel]

Expect and as next testing roles

[tranquil comet]

“Each day you can select a player to lock in with you at night. Both of you will be protected until the lock is broken. The other player is still able to use abilities during the night. You can silently activate a shockwave once per game, killing the other player if they (their team) kill anyone that night. If either one of you is attacked (including via the shockwave), the lock will break leaving you both unprotected”

so this would be an advanced jailer

its trump is its ability to save itself while jailing

[dawn cairn]

lurker is more than ready, spy maybe with a change

[tranquil comet]

since it locks itself with the other player

and also the other player can still use skills

[signal crystal]

I dont understand why to not add toxic and spy.

[dawn cairn]

Maybe cuz everyone saying spy broken

[signal crystal]

a nerfed spy

[tranquil comet]

and it can verify the locked target via shockwave ability, which is different from jailer execute and warden weapon

[signal crystal]

3 checks

[dawn parcel]

And I dont understand why people still complain about the 2 roles coming to the game 💀

Just deal w it

[tranquil comet]

I also have a rework for Spy as well

although I feel it might be complicated for some of you

but then again I stole a role from hypos tournament

so it can’t be that hard to understand

[dawn cairn]

tbh it seems way less fun than jailer/warden

[tranquil comet]

how so

I guess there is no jail chat

so that can be a disadvantage

if locksmith wants to keep its provability and protection style my opinion is that it needs to be promoted to an RSV role

[signal crystal]

so there's no arguing that they picked the worst roles to add when others work better and would have been better in the game. There is a thing called freedom of opinion and everyone can talk about what they want.

Toxic ww was okay. Debuffed spy was also okay for me.

[tranquil comet]

I don’t really have much to say about the BP to be honest lol

[tropic blade]

push a ww by accident

lmk what happens

[tranquil comet]

I might just ghost for the next 2 months lmao

[dawn cairn]

R we sure that ft n siren won't have release changes? as buff or nerf

[signal crystal]

I hope so

Maybe a Siren that can bypass protection

and ft i dont know , is all bad about that role

[dawn cairn]

Evil can only choose from the setup would be a start

[whole bolt]

Ft was added into sandbox for a while and they decided that it is good enough

Meh idc about new roles anymore

Gimme steam version

[signal crystal]

I was waiting only for them😭

[dawn cairn]

Awhile= week before update

[signal crystal]

no sense to add it

[dawn cairn]

ye but nit necessarily game throwing

[short epoch]

ft weak

[signal crystal]

ft useless

[dawn cairn]

Can't agree less

However i like ft

[tranquil comet]

im not sure if anyones tried it as FT but

well actually i think its impossible to pull off

[real coral]

Oh no the new roles

[tranquil comet]

unless it becomes common knowledge

but basically anyone that reveals

0.1 seconds after getting the card is real

cuz evils have to spend 2 seconds choosing the role right

before they can reveall

[real coral]

Knowledge obtained

[tranquil comet]

but if u do it immediately

[short epoch]

advanger still best chose

[real coral]

Going to hold onto my card as a vill 🧌

[dawn cairn]

even villagers won't reveal that fast

[dawn cairn]

They just reveal when they want to

[whole bolt]

Might see a few people try ft a few days after releasing but after that meh

[signal crystal]

you may or may not like it. But the reveal mechanic ruins the game and the fact that everyone can reveal themselves however they want is only useful for the bad guys. And above all it has nothing to do with lm.

[whole bolt]

Probably will be rare like judge

[real coral]

fire bomb
big bomb
time bomb
"aw no it's on me" bomb

I see the pattern now

[tranquil comet]

Judge is rare? thats surprising

[whole bolt]

yeah i barely see judge

[tranquil comet]

even though I’m a MM user I’m still shocked

[dawn cairn]

Hard to say ruin the game, more likely useless

[whole bolt]

I tried to record a game of judge to make a video

And I gave up

[tranquil comet]

rip you lol

[short epoch]

skill

[tranquil comet]

I seen Judge plenty of times playing and spectating ranked so git gud

[whole bolt]

When it was released I thought judge can still kill after gww protect

But meh i was so wrong

[tranquil comet]

yeah sucks

[whole bolt]

Meh sometimes I still select judge if i just want to afk

[dusky perch]

judge is fun and easy to cc anyone

[tranquil comet]

hit them up with a guilty

[dusky perch]

ikr

[dusk hemlock]

so they add siren ­with no change?

cool

[whole bolt]

I havent even seen siren yet

Cant say anything about it

[tranquil comet]

its still morally disgusting, RK avenger is just hilarious

theres literally only one excuse for being a Siren

and thats if u get instigated

🤣

anyway we’re picking 4 next to see those balance changes

im ready to get disappointed again 💀

honestly I don’t mind the infinite bully rocks

the bully bug scared me more than anything

[signal crystal]

worst update ever

😭

siren and ft sucks

yeah in fact siren is fun but weak

is ft that totally is no sense

[tranquil comet]

can’t wait for siren to pull up in my row war match 😍

[robust elk]

you can give fake info with wwf it is his base kit?

[tropic blade]

I wouldnt personally do it

[tranquil comet]

yeah its 100% gonna get added to chain reaction lmao

[robust elk]

then you are the reason why ppl say wwf succs

[signal crystal]

wwf>gr>cursed

facts

[robust elk]

wwf is around abusing your aura and invincibility to waste village materials

and if you are giving evil infos nob

[tranquil comet]

yes sir

[tropic blade]

I play wwf but I dont give evil info

[tranquil comet]

any form of chaos is welcome

[tropic blade]

I claim warden, I cc villagers

[robust elk]

give good infos always until you figure who is evil

[tropic blade]

I dont give random info because youre getting revealed day 1 for free

[robust elk]

claim det

[tropic blade]

no det ig in sb mate

[robust elk]

warden too

[tropic blade]

and if rsv ig chances are im getting revealed and shot in the same moment

[robust elk]

trust me their braincelss dont process that fast you will live till d3

[tropic blade]

their braincells will ask them to reveal me

happens too often to bother

[robust elk]

lurker was fun

that is how lurker succs

give fake info

[tranquil comet]

lurker should be only solo helper

gr already helps vill, wwf helps wolf

[signal crystal]

yes

[tranquil comet]

so lurker should only help solo

[signal crystal]

Lurker need some work but still better than siren and ft

[tranquil comet]

yes sir

[signal crystal]

toxic ww>nerfed spy>lurker>siren>ft

its fun but weaker than arso alche and bomb

yes

[tranquil comet]

if it can work with ww then why is it any different from cursed or wwf

[robust elk]

I wanted lurker as gr base

bomber fun

kaboom boom boom

[signal crystal]

with a gr rework

I agree its not a bad idea

better than siren and ft lol

yeah maybe lurker base and gr adv with a gr rework

[dusky perch]

wov is racism 💀

[tranquil comet]

arso and alch are about the same

[signal crystal]

alche so much better

[robust elk]

my bet was gr will get unk aura and team none

I find bomber funnier

kaboom boom boom

[fleet hawk]

I thought they were gonna add toxic ww

My rare shadow card seems meaningless now

I already have wwb

My first advanced role

[gloomy cargo]

explain how FT is adv of LM??

or did I read wrong lmfao

still useless either way lmaooo

ft sucks atm

[short epoch]

make ft is base of lm

[gloomy cargo]

atleast Br and Ave are still good, ig??

I've seen villagers be misslynched more than actually finding evil. or ft card gets given to an info giver 💀

I'll have a read

[robust elk]

4/13

Near %25

At maximum

It is %75

It is 15/4 wait I calculated wrong

15/12

%80 percent lose at maximum

And tg prots someone

And if we think 3 tg max proting diff persons it is wait %80 instant lose

26,66 ig

4/15

Isnt the rate 4/15

Wait you are right let me think

[signal crystal]

ft sucks

[dusky perch]

worst than astro

nothing advanced

give cards
force to reveal
wait game to end

should be

[robust elk]

I want a culinary season

I just want an asian vio stir frying rice with a wok

[charred drift]

can someone show me the new calendars emotes

[robust elk]

Waiter baker

And main chef gambler

Sundae jelly

Stubborn with pasta on it’s head

[robust elk]

And confusion with spilled soup on it’s head 👁🫦👁

[charred drift]

yes

[robust elk]

And actual wine alch

[charred drift]

i made donut ww once

Name : Donut Werewolf
Team & Aura : Werewolves & Evil
RCC : Advanced role of Nightmare Werewolf

•Ability
Go out[x2,Daytime]
You can choose to go to the donut shop for the next night. You can either eat the donut there or steal the donut. If you eat the donut,you can’t speak with the werewolves and see who they’re voting for the next night,but you will get 2 hidden extra votes in the day. If you steal the donut,you will bring it back to the werewolves and block a player from using abilities and voting in the day.

•Shadow does stack with this.

While Voodoo Werewolf and Nightmare Werewolf block in the night,Donut werewolf allows to block in the day or gets extra votes;granting werewolves an advantage.

💀

[robust elk]

So buffed voodoo

Day blocking is such an underrated thing but this could easily break the game

[tranquil comet]

yes sir

[dark creek]

you forget about seer who can check you d1, is + 1/15

[dark creek]

also there usually two rrvs, who can be tg or gambler who can check you, also tg usually protect random d1

[fresh sail]

I love how being number 10 is so special

Either you get interacted first or get killed first

Unless ppl have common sense thinking number 10 is going to get either protected or someone else will check or killed them

Nah siren is worse than alch

Alch kill ppl after discuss phase and almost guaranteed killing someone 1/2 a days

While siren let ppl know when the death bell rings

[sudden urchin]

Not every role has to be op. Lots of people enjoy playing bomber simply cause it’s fun

[fresh sail]

Playing bomber basically back stab yourself or helping ww/vill

Now to mention of it, siren deserve their own theme and killing animation

Like sk and corr

Maybe underwater theme

[sudden urchin]

That would be cool ngl

[fresh sail]

but fr, out of all the solo killer, zombie and alch are simply the scariest

[sudden urchin]

A good alch player is intimidating for sure.

[fresh sail]

Zombie: if you can't find the og and stop the spreading, after day 3-4 you are doom

Alch: killing ppl everyday 1/2 and even by pass flagger or bg

[steady quiver]

Did wov ignore the fact that everyone was against ft and will add it anyways?

[sudden urchin]

Ft is fine, it doesn’t really do much but it’s fine

[fresh sail]

Ft helping non vill

Most of ww would not kill ft

[sudden urchin]

If villagers believe a fake claim you are correct

[fresh sail]

I kinda like the old ft mechanic

If you get card as non vill, god bless you

[sudden urchin]

People just need to take the cards less seriously lol.

[fresh sail]

Tho it's a win for fool unless

lol I remember someone revealed themselves as bh or sheriff but still voted off cuz fool or jww counter claim them

[sudden urchin]

The same thing can happen in a game without ft

[fresh sail]

True, but ft is kinda useless for vill team

[sudden urchin]

That’s what I’m saying

All it does is force a claim and that’s fine

[fresh sail]

But heyy at least if ppl are too obsess with the cards, one of the veteran player will found out sus

especially ppl asking for card day 1

oh also, the next bp season is cool, but the quest item are actually better than the BP item itself

Like seriously, you get the phonk character from bp quest item

Tho, I wanna see the BP role icon

[calm nimbus]

They actually added siren ffs

Garbage role

Ft too

But less

[fathom cobalt]

why they ask us our opinion idf they dont take it into acount tho

[gentle patio]

Why aren't there ppl voting for 4️⃣ in voting. The balance changes are always intresting

[tranquil comet]

just wait for the next poll, we’ll pick 4️⃣

[steady quiver]

yes master

[tropic blade]

huh

[proud crescent]

why are they adding ft in its current state? i saw so many feedbacks which are saying that it’s not good currently lol

[steady quiver]

i guess siren or ft will be add with rework

[cold cypress]

The shrimp is back huh

[charred drift]

shrimp is so weak for itself

[valid slate]

Tbh im voting for ft so that shrimp wont be ig

It just steals alch card

[dusky perch]

We all knows what is 1

Sharing avatar slot

Easy to steal too

[frigid ermine]

Nice, I'll share this avatar to my friends now 💃

[main socket]

What do you mean it steals the alch card? Are they removing alchemist?

[valid slate]

Nope, but if they add siren ig, then chance of getting alch will be 33,3% instead of 50% (if you have bomber, then it will become 50% instead of 100%)

[teal ravine]

Just get alch before the update

[valid slate]

I wouldnt be saying that if i could get him

But i already got 30 cards this month and i still need like 4 of them

Also i dont even have arso card

[teal ravine]

Sad

I have all of them and im ready to throw the bb inf talis to the garbage

[robust elk]

Just get avenger or br before update