I was hyped for insti, thats so disappointing
#speculations
dusky perch
😂 who made that icon reveled it
plucky jay
what does the 2 card fish thing mean
dusky perch
agree with this
plucky jay
I thought they removed siren
tranquil comet
4 is steam and 3 is honor
plucky jay
Needs to stay gone
tranquil comet
whats 1
dawn parcel
Siren is not ready to be released yet
mortal panther
siren was a test role
plucky jay
Ft needs to go away too
charred finch
Siren is not ready to be released yet
agreed
tranquil comet
If this ends up to be Siren
FT and Siren 💀
dawn parcel
- ?
- Possible 3 new Roles: Ft, Tww and Siren
- Honor Season 2 Medieval
- Wov on Steam
tranquil comet
All it does is help wolves win
ironic as thats what a lot of sad players who are bad at playing ww wanted hahaha
strong escarp
Maybe 2 is just new role
mortal panther
1. ?
2. Possible 3 new Roles: Ft, Tww and Siren
3. Honor Season 2 Medieval
4. W...
1 is the same icon as
use 50 bp outfits mission 
dusky perch
1. ?
2. Possible 3 new Roles: Ft, Tww and Siren
3. Honor Season 2 Medieval
4. W...
4 is roles changes (aka balance changes)
vague heath
I guess 1 is outfit sharing
plucky jay
you sure that's not steam
tranquil comet
4 is roles changes (aka balance changes)
I call cap
plucky jay
that's already a thing good it
goodot
when does this update happen
like when this bp ends right
dusky perch
2nd ?
charred finch
so ft is not officially final yet?
dusky perch
or 1st
plucky jay
what would toxic ww be advanced of
hidden obsidian
When I tell you, I’m obsessed with the next BP I am OBSESSED
hidden obsidian
like this is my fav hands down
plucky jay
Best bp ever
tranquil comet
When I tell you, I’m obsessed with the next BP I am OBSESSED
im already not hopeful with the repeat icons and honor coming back
plucky jay
the repeat icons are a let down yes
dawn parcel
When I tell you, I’m obsessed with the next BP I am OBSESSED
I'm afraid the Honor S2 and possible Siren being released will ruin it
mortal panther
or toxic ww would be a base role itself and wwb its advanced
hidden obsidian
No offense to other bps
plucky jay
sorry goodot
tranquil comet
and also i don’t think theres another crazy mode coming
dawn parcel
Actually wait
hidden obsidian
I like the outfits
tranquil comet
rip
dawn parcel
I'm certain now
plucky jay
what would be shadow advanced burmar
dawn parcel
Siren Tww and Ft will be released
hidden obsidian
Other stuff will just be 👯♂️👯♂️👯♂️
plucky jay
why ft
mortal panther
what would be shadow advanced burmar
nothing 🥴
plucky jay
Just take ft out
hidden obsidian
ft is great
dawn parcel
their golden icons were leaked during testing aswell
hidden obsidian
I love ft
dawn parcel
in the setups
charred finch
then what about spy
plucky jay
what is spy
hidden obsidian
Yeah
tranquil comet
and called it a day
hidden obsidian
Ft over LM tho i,ma be fr
dusky perch
then what about spy
never
charred finch
oh 😔😔
plucky jay
ft doesn't make sense as a lm advanced
hidden obsidian
Didn’t say those two were correlated
plucky jay
well yea lm sucks
tranquil comet
ft doesn't make sense as a lm advanced
I have BR and Avg and couldn’t care less about getting that waste of paper 💀
hidden obsidian
But like I’m just saying I’d rather have FT in preset than LM
plucky jay
lmao same felneus I have avg
plucky jay
ft as rrv seems too extreme
tranquil comet
ft as rrv seems too extreme
its just mayor but without the extra votes
charred finch
then ft is base role?
dawn parcel
then ft is base role?
advanced
latent locust
ft is basically provable rrv in the context of lm not being fixed
hidden obsidian
What would be the base role
plucky jay
so useless felneus
dawn parcel
What would be the base role
Lm
hidden obsidian
Ok well hypothetically FT is stronger than BR
plucky jay
ft has lm advanced is so odd
dusky perch
unlimited bully 🪨
😋
dawn parcel
ft has lm advanced is so odd
wdym
tranquil comet
unlimited bully did u say
dawn parcel
The lm tree reveals roles
latent locust
unlimited bully 🪨
😋
maybe i should get it again 
plucky jay
well lm forces a role
dawn parcel
it makes perfect sense
plucky jay
Br forces a role
dusky perch
unlimited bully did u say
be aware random rocks
plucky jay
avg kills someone
tranquil comet
as long as bully retains one rock per day I don’t mind
dawn parcel
oh wait I forgot avenger was a lm advanced
plucky jay
ft is like here's a card
dawn parcel
oops
tranquil comet
cuz that bully bug scared me for a second
dusky perch
as long as bully retains one rock per day I don’t mind
yeh its
tranquil comet
i think its real 💀
plucky jay
I've never seen bully use all rocks anyway
tranquil comet
I've never seen bully use all rocks anyway
i especially like bully in game cuz
im a conjur user
hidden obsidian
I have so many cards sitting around bez I don’t need or alr have their advanced roles
plucky jay
I see
hidden obsidian
I can but like
I already have their advanced roles
Or I don’t want the other one
plucky jay
So just get more cards?
tranquil comet
im still waiting to get another vigi card… i need bully for my row wars games lol
plucky jay
And upgrade the ones you want
plucky jay
Well the cards are always randomized
tranquil comet
what else is getting changed
plucky jay
I have like 6 fc cards
tranquil comet
anyway
plucky jay
Already have paci
hidden obsidian
Like it took me 2 months to get a Wws card
plucky jay
2 months??
plucky jay
Oh maybe it's just because I farm cards
tranquil comet
be aware random rocks
anything else u wanna leak
latent locust
im still waiting to get another vigi card… i need bully for my row wars games lo...
meanwhile 
hidden obsidian
LMAO
tranquil comet
meanwhile <:GW_kek_dog:776170462849794088>
GIVE ME
visual bone
Theres no way siren is the chosen role
plucky jay
Lmao
visual bone
It makes vill lose more than it wins by itself
hidden obsidian
Bro
charred finch
if there's three new roles then most likely siren is coming
tranquil comet
It makes vill lose more than it wins by itself
i thought u love to see village losing
visual bone
i thought u love to see village losing
i also like rks that are fun to play and can win on their own
tranquil comet
I'll eat it myself
EAT THAT SHRIMP
plucky jay
No
visual bone
siren is too uh, kinda like sk in a way, if you get on the end game and youre a known siren people will vote you to tie and theres not much you can do in that scenario
To have 6 people entranced??
And have 7 people die on d2?
Are you mental
plucky jay
Siren is very flawed
hidden obsidian
Siren is like the worse sect leader
tranquil comet
And have 7 people die on d2?
actual RK strength 😱
plucky jay
We have rk strength already
Like canni corr ed illu
It's not supposed to be easy winning as rk
charred finch
but like what's wrong with siren anyway
dusky perch
anything else u wanna leak
didnt see anything else
visual bone
thats 3 kills/nigth
latent locust
speaking of having too many cards
plucky jay
the problem is that siren can't win by itself
visual bone
arso family is 1.5/n
plucky jay
most of the time
tranquil comet
It's not supposed to be easy winning as rk
its also not supposed to be a free loss if you roll RK, not that I want to defend Siren cuz we don’t need more solo avengers but yeah
charred finch
but isn't it just like every other rk, it kills at most 2 people everyday 2 day
plucky jay
what
it's not though felenus
Well sk is but
Sk needs to be removed imo
Pizza no no no
visual bone
we competing about who has more cards?
plucky jay
bg is rarely the main protection role
fleet hawk
Wait siren is getting added?
latent locust
we competing about who has more cards?
😶
visual bone
Wait siren is getting added?
Judging by the fish on the voting, yeah
visual bone
Cards could be either ft or lurker cause they share the color pallete
plucky jay
Bg is rarely an RRV goodot
lurker is kinda useless as a role
Should be rv
Fool AND lurker??
I don't think so
Imagine fool lurker and insti
solar ravine
Omg 3 cards = spy cuz 3 target
latent locust
Omg 3 cards = spy cuz 3 target
😱
plucky jay
how does that relate to cupid felneus
visual bone
Mfw trickster ww is the next role 😫
charred finch
isn't spy 4 targets
plucky jay
no thanks
plucky jay
That's what we're talking about kitto
latent locust
Mfw trickster ww is the next role 😫
= 
😱
tranquil comet
how does that relate to cupid felneus
just have lurker know all players that don’t belong to vill and ww and have the goal to win as long as both vill and ww lose. and then a special skill to be able to convert into a dead solo role once per game
charred finch
Anyone got speculations on what the 4 points in <#441607711403278336> are?
2 is new roles
3 is honour season 2
plucky jay
Felneus what in the world
toxic urchin
Alright cool, sorry I didnt have much time to read current/old messages
plucky jay
Couldn't It just expose all wolves??
toxic urchin
And I hope balance changes are cool
tranquil comet
Couldn't It just expose all wolves??
not really since it wouldn’t know wolves
it would only know solo roles, which are the roles it would try to help win
visual bone
Sorta is
toxic urchin
Should I laugh? I can't tell if this is a joke
tranquil comet
Yes but that's not really cupid esque
theres not much else that makes lurker unique in comparison to the rest of the cursed tree
visual bone
Adding a third party team
solar ravine
Brooo nl role change for 2 update is sick
tranquil comet
and definitely want to bypass the issue of lurker asking to be shot
plucky jay
That's where the similarities end kzalli
tranquil comet
either lurker asks to be shot, or its cursed but different name and skin, or its an RK helper which is its only unique trait even though GR can also have a solo target due to RNG
visual bone
That's where the similarities end kzalli
Thats the core of the role though, having a third party team added
whole bolt
tell me everything u guys know about new bp please I have been offline for too long
solar ravine
Bully getting infinite rocks
no
plucky jay
at what point does it become another role entirely though
No other advanced roles are that deviant from the base
tranquil comet
just commit Lurker to only being able to help solo roles and basically be a partner to them
visual bone
Cupid does it but badly, insti does it pretty well, you'd lose the fact that theres 2 linked players for a player that is already helping a team from the go
latent locust
tell me everything u guys know about new bp please I have been offline for too l...
we might get 3 new roles which are: siren, toxic wolf (most likely) and lurker (unsure)
plucky jay
Wouldn't they just kill lurker
charred finch
any other balance changes other than bully?
visual bone
No other advanced roles are that deviant from the base
seer app / bg
latent locust
it could also be ft
solar ravine
any other balance changes other than bully?
Theres no role change this update
steady quiver
Lurker kinda unlikely cuz no one liked this role
plucky jay
seer app bg same purpose
visual bone
different ways to do it
tranquil comet
no protector games are fun, especially when people get salty u picked seer app
not sarcastic btw
cuz i actually do it
hahahahga
latent locust
counters 
in a way
plucky jay
I did as well
latent locust
your gaurenteed to get info as long as your alive
visual bone
i remember the good times when vio was aura adv and i could bully people for picking it
latent locust
when seer gets berserked n2
visual bone
had a game where someone left because of it
plucky jay
vio was aura adv huh
hidden obsidian
plucky jay
I took a break for 3 years
visual bone
Yeah and it sucked
marsh wyvern
I think 2️⃣ is 3 new roles, well i see siren's kill icon so siren definitely will be one. The other two is maybe lurker and spy.
hidden obsidian
Just got another vigi care hora y
tranquil comet
vio so underrated, cupid/insti trembling in their seats
visual bone
People had to die at day for it to get a check
plucky jay
Sauce send me the cards you don't want
visual bone
So vio had no use unless shadow/seer killed someone
marsh wyvern
Tww?
charred finch
toxic
tranquil comet
latent locust
plucky jay
I'm not a big fan of toxic ww
visual bone
Trickster ww
marsh wyvern
Oh
plucky jay
It's like a watered down wwb
analog shoal
I'll cry if they add siren
marsh wyvern
Yeah maybe toxic and lurker
tranquil comet
you thought I was but it was me,
visual bone
Toxic is eh
latent locust
is easily countered by 
tbh
plucky jay
no the abbreviations are different
visual bone
Good role, not fun to play against
charred finch
I guess spy isn't ready
tranquil comet
<:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118> is easily countered by <:beast_hunter:47381896...
u got the wrong guy
im pretty sure toxic doesn’t care about bh
latent locust
u got the wrong guy
sure you kill seer but a wolf will also die in the process
visual bone
Nah it bypasses but the trap still triggers
plucky jay
Dumbasses thought I was referring to berserk
marsh wyvern
<:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118> is easily countered by <:beast_hunter:47381896...
is also countered by and 
tranquil comet
sure you kill seer but a wolf will also die in the process
yeah thats berserk bro
plucky jay
Berserk goes through trap
tranquil comet
toxic works differently afaik
visual bone
thata toxic too
plucky jay
wwb is beserk
visual bone
nah, ive seen it happening, the guy dies but the trap triggers still
tranquil comet
I’m fine with toxic only because I can balance setups around it unlike berserk
latent locust
be like me and say the names in their entirety or the first word
visual bone
wf is wolfluencer and wf is wolf fan idk how no one sees the differences smh
tranquil comet
but other than that it doesn’t provide anything new, since berserk’s main mechanic is protection bypass
plucky jay
Wolf fan is wwf
marsh wyvern
3️⃣ is honor season 2 that's for sure.
latent locust
3️⃣ is honor season 2 that's for sure.
✅
plucky jay
Ew why it's a dog
tranquil comet
wf is wolfluencer and wf is wolf fan idk how no one sees the differences smh
I say wolfflu for 
and wwf for 
whole bolt
I heard h4h will be a huge nerf
visual bone
Honor4Honor: back for vengeance
plucky jay
I say wolfflu too
analog shoal
3️⃣ is honor season 2 that's for sure.
Hmm what could be 1?
fleet hawk
1 no idea
2 new roles
3 honor
4 role changes?
plucky jay
1 outfit trading
latent locust
1 outfit trading
that would be a good additon to the game
plucky jay
op?
latent locust
not sure how it would be op if theyre cosmetics 🤨
tranquil comet
we pick 2 first for new roles, then we pick 4 for balance changes. 1 idk so we can pick that to see whats up with the outfit changing and pick honor last (although someone said theres a H4H nerf so they might explain it)
plucky jay
maybe they would lose money?
marsh wyvern
4️⃣ is role reworks and balance changes. Possibly a 
and a change
tranquil comet
4️⃣ is role reworks and balance changes. Possibly a <:bully:1024711947955994665>...
what change
analog shoal
Was wwo? Whats that
*
marsh wyvern
what <:wolffluencer:1079671439835275295> change
I think they will change the base role of the to shadow wolf. Which also means they are going to add and will be the base role of it.
analog shoal
What did toxic wolf even do
marsh wyvern
What did toxic wolf even do
Bypasses protection x2
dusky perch
i just random what else its possible to be?
analog shoal
Oh
plucky jay
takes a night to activate
analog shoal
Yeah it makes sense to be at shadow
latent locust
probably the weekend
plucky jay
Wolfflu is a downgrade to shadow
dawn parcel
Cards could be either ft or lurker cause they share the color pallete
I dont think it's Lurker cuz it kinda got leaked/teased to come with spy in sb
whole bolt
will there be Steam version soon?
plucky jay
Shadow is almost an instant seer kill day 1
tranquil comet
<:feelsfunny:622208913034444861> i just random what else its possible to be?
how many other role changes are you expecting
whole bolt
plucky jay
Wolfflu is only good late game
latent locust
I dont think it's Lurker cuz it kinda got leaked/teased to come with spy in sb
spy coming back to sb? lets go!!!!!
dawn parcel
What does it do
Det advanced
dusky perch
how many other role changes are you expecting
auh 2 ?
marsh wyvern
Wolfflu is a downgrade to shadow
It's actually a lot stronger than the sww. Sww is easy to use while the wolffluencer is harder yet more rewarding, can win a 1v3.
dawn parcel
It checks 4 people to see if one of them killed or not
plucky jay
isn't morti op enough
tranquil comet
isn't morti op enough
auto clicker role 💀
dawn parcel
The next night you select 2 of the 4 checked players to see their team
plucky jay
yes but they serve completely different purposes storm wolf
latent locust
isn't morti op enough
after finding junior werewolf and dying
plucky jay
lmao
whole bolt
after being the only person get killed first night
tranquil comet
<:mortician:957920515333451778> after finding junior werewolf and dying
good ending, they picked
latent locust
<:mortician:957920515333451778> after being the only person get killed first nig...
gets revived but nobody died that same night
analog shoal
When are they going to tell us the things we are voting for? Hopefully some hours
dawn parcel
Usually within the next day
plucky jay
Wdym Andreush
latent locust
good ending, they picked <:wolffluencer:1079671439835275295>
hooray! 
plucky jay
What are we voting for??
latent locust
im sure the first one will get revealed when im 😴
tranquil comet
vote 2 so we know if Siren is coming
analog shoal
im sure the first one will get revealed when im 😴
Same
dawn parcel
vote 2 so we know if Siren is coming
Exactly
analog shoal
Yeah those
latent locust
im still gonna wake up at 3 am anyway because i'll be too much in suspense 👍
marsh wyvern
For 1️⃣ i think it's more random options for the inventory menu; random role icons, random skin slots but some are excluded etc.
tranquil comet
I’m entrancing you all
plucky jay
that recycle symbol isn't giving random
I think it's trading role cards and outfits
let me dream
latent locust
♻️ i dont know how this looks similar
analog shoal
Trading role cards w another player sound good
dawn parcel
I think it's trading role cards and outfits
Doubt cuz they dont encourage trades based on tos
dusky perch
For 1️⃣ i think it's more random options for the inventory menu; random role ico...
sadly its not
latent locust
Doubt cuz they dont encourage trades based on tos
something like roses for skins is probably what theyre referring to for that
dusky perch
remember the vote if you would like to make code for your outfit and people can use code to copy your outfit ?
latent locust
remember the vote if you would like to make code for your outfit and people can ...
actually your probably right
marsh wyvern
that recycle symbol isn't giving random
Well it's also used in bp quest that you have to play 50 games with bp outfits AND play 50 games with different shirt, hat etc.
plucky jay
50??
dawn parcel
remember the vote if you would like to make code for your outfit and people can ...
OH RIGHT
plucky jay
when has it been 50
dawn parcel
Skin sharing/copying is 1
dawn parcel
It was accidentally leaked on wov web
plucky jay
omg yay
marsh wyvern
Bruh
tranquil comet
L update for me lol
dawn parcel
Lemme find a ss
tranquil comet
although I know they will hit us with a random halloween upgrade event
so im still forced to grind cards
plucky jay
The grind never stops
Why is there a monthly role card limit
That sucks
Let's petition to get it removed
marsh wyvern
1️⃣ is lame, let's talk about 2️⃣ and 4️⃣. Which roles you think is going to be added/going to be changed?
tranquil comet
Why is there a monthly role card limit
its a sign u need to go outside and breathe fresh air
latent locust
1️⃣ is lame, let's talk about 2️⃣ and 4️⃣. Which roles you think is going to be ...
, , 
/
tranquil comet
talk about a toxic update, ironic isn’t it
plucky jay
Just send me a request
marsh wyvern
<:siren:1122965550981714021>, <:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118>, <:fortune_telle...
I dont think they will add ft this early, they just tested it and the role is just a fancier way tk claim.
plucky jay
Why is it ironic
dawn parcel
Took me a while but I found it
latent locust
I dont think they will add ft this early, they just tested it and the role is ju...
thats why i put locksmith as a backup prediction
plucky jay
what is locksmith
dawn parcel
Lemme find a ss
plucky jay
so avatar sharing confirmed
latent locust
what is locksmith
its basically a provable bg you lock yourself in (protect) with another player
analog shoal
Oh right they talked about copying an avatar from other people
plucky jay
so like jailer but 2 way lemathgamer
marsh wyvern
thats why i put locksmith as a backup prediction
Locksmith was tested few times and it was long ago, there definitely should be a problem about it so they didn't added it. I think the problem that it's easily confirmable?
latent locust
Locksmith was tested few times and it was long ago, there definitely should be a...
yes
tranquil comet
its basically a provable bg you lock yourself in (protect) with another player
they should just buff locksmith and make an advanced jailer somehow
latent locust
so like jailer but 2 way lemathgamer
not exactly, its more like a bg protect
plucky jay
That's just warden
plucky jay
interesting
tranquil comet
now what would be a good kill mechanic for locksmith 🤨
plucky jay
When does the new battle pass come
marsh wyvern
I think and (maybe with a slight buff) are definitely going to added. For the third I'd say lurker.
latent locust
now what would be a good kill mechanic for locksmith 🤨
whacks the other person with the lock so hard they die
dawn parcel
I think <:siren:1122965550981714021> and <:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118>(maybe...
Lurker probably wont be added yet
plucky jay
or at all
dawn parcel
High chances it will get released with spy
plucky jay
so what's the third
For this update
If no soy
spy
does it need to be any stronger??
marsh wyvern
High chances it will get released with spy
The fact that spy is broken, i think spy will be added with ft
dawn parcel
The fact that spy is broken, i think spy will be added with ft
Ft is basically ready to go
And spy and Lurker were leaked/teased to be testing in sb next
tranquil comet
so it can jail itself with someone else, they can still use abilities and if any of you are attacked, the attack will fail, breaking the lock and disabling jailing for one night
u can activate a shockwave ability that will once per game kill the target if they attempt to use a harmful ability
robust elk
I think siren needs a huge buff
marsh wyvern
Ft is basically ready to go
Nope, it's a fancier way to claim and it just broken. Due to it being easily provable unlike other lm advanced.
plucky jay
if they attempt to use a harmful ability?
latent locust
siren is kinda all over the place
dawn parcel
Nope, it's a fancier way to claim and it just broken. Due to it being easily pro...
Most times lm is rrv so it wont be an issue
plucky jay
they most likely updated siren
robust elk
since siren has same kill rate as sk
dawn parcel
- evils can fake roles easier
robust elk
and has the worst flexibility
latent locust
i have a lm card but since i sacrificed bell ringer i'll have a 50/50 if it gets released
tranquil comet
if they attempt to use a harmful ability?
well hard to say what is harmful, cuz abilities like enchantment, nightmare, douse etc are hard interactions to bother with
killing is the only one that makes sense
dusky perch
😮
marsh wyvern
I think siren needs a huge buff
I suggested a slight buff yet they didn't liked it. It was that if siren is attacked she will be wounded and if she's wounded she will kill all entranced players. She will die 1 phase later so if she's the last player alive after getting wounded she will win.
plucky jay
Storm wolf that sounds hectic
robust elk
tg bg forger shield they all tanked it
marsh wyvern
It shouldn't otherwise it would be so strong
plucky jay
strong to other teams
robust elk
I never saw siren's good side
dawn parcel
Keep Siren as it is but ass prot bypass
robust elk
siren only wrecked ww team
dawn parcel
Add*
marsh wyvern
I never saw siren's good side
It's only good if you entrance 3 villagers while werewolf outnumbers village. Then you can blackmail them to vote werewolves
marsh wyvern
If wolves outnumber villagers
They outnumber villagers you are also able to vote you know
robust elk
I dont want siren tbh
marsh wyvern
so let's say there's 4 wolves and 3 villagers
4 ww and 4 villagers
robust elk
a 1,33 kill rate which is still worse than alch and bomber
marsh wyvern
which is a tie
Ahem you can vote(it would have been over if you weren't alive)
plucky jay
You said wolves outnumber villagers 😭
but then what
You kill villagers and wolves vote you out?
marsh wyvern
You said wolves outnumber villagers 😭
Outnumber i meant 4 ww 4 villager etc
plucky jay
that's what would happen
Then they would kill you 🤷
what are y'all getting at
yes
marsh wyvern
You kill villagers and wolves vote you out?
You keep your forkies, maybe it would have been a better idea if you have entranced 2 villagers and a ww👀
tranquil comet
Locksmith
(Advanced role of Jailer)
“Each day you can select a player to lock in with you at night. Both of you will be protected until the lock is broken. If either one of you is attacked, the lock will break leaving you both unprotected. The other player is still able to use abilities during the night. However you can activate a shockwave once per game, killing the other player if they (their team) kill anyone that night”
What do you guys think of my adaptation
vague heath
Where 3?
tacit vine
Hey
marsh wyvern
<:keymaker:1007610039420325918> Locksmith
(Advanced role of Jailer)
“Each day y...
Shockwave is so strong, therefore it should kill anyone even if they don't kill.
plucky jay
Locksmith is too strong
dawn parcel
Anyways my final prediction
plucky jay
Basically it's if this person is bad they die
tranquil comet
Shockwave is so strong, therefore it should kill anyone even if they don't kill.
yeah the wolf/solo can choose to not kill and be cautious to avoid getting zapped
tranquil comet
also the shock is wasted if locksmith jailed a villager
plucky jay
Too op
marsh wyvern
yeah the wolf/solo can choose to not kill and be cautious to avoid getting zappe...
But you can't miskill, which is bad.
Like killing a villager
plucky jay
Yea
tranquil comet
But you can't miskill, which is bad.
u can’t miskill but ur ability is gone
dawn parcel
- skin sharing/copying
-
- Honor season 2 Medieval
- Wolvesville on Steam
steady quiver
IS THAT A JWW ICON I SEE
tranquil comet
like u can still jail people
plucky jay
Yes the space one
tranquil comet
just u lost the ability to kill
dawn parcel
What changes are there even to make
tranquil comet
in the context of locksmith u can say lock yourself with x
rather than jail
to avoid confusion
plucky jay
felneus that is still too op if you put it in perspective
robust elk
no lurker? 
vague heath
1. skin sharing/copying
2. <:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118> <:siren:11229655509...
Wolvesville's already announced available on steam
dawn parcel
Besides wov on steam was already confirmed to happen
marsh wyvern
u can’t miskill but ur ability is gone
Still so strong, shock wave should broke the lock no matter what also leaving the locksmith completely role blocked for the next day.
latent locust
to be fair they already announced wov on steam so i would agree that 4 is role changes
steady quiver
Why in the world did they bring back honor again
tranquil comet
Still so strong, shock wave should broke the lock no matter what also leaving th...
im fine with this too
vague heath
But where's 3 icon? I cant vote 3
tranquil comet
makes sense lorewise for a lethal dose of electricity to break a lock
marsh wyvern
to be fair they already announced wov on steam so i would agree that 4 is role c...
How is a wolf icon with a gear can be steam? Also it was announced already so it's not surprise for us.
latent locust
where did all the reactions go 🤨
plucky jay
where would a locksmith get electricity
visual bone
Why in the world did they bring back honor again
So you can get that little social dependency on the funny number that you see on the end of your game
plucky jay
I thought it was medieval
vague heath
where did all the reactions go 🤨
Idk. Dont ask ms
plucky jay
like all the roles
tranquil comet
theres a lot of roles that are clearly not medieval
plucky jay
Like what
vague heath
I think siren quite op
plucky jay
yea but electricity with locksmith isn't logical
latent locust
yea but electricity with locksmith isn't logical
Electic lock 
steady quiver
Should I upgrade arso for a chance at alche before siren is released
visual bone
i think arson existed since ancient times
Cmon, it was the turning point of humanity
steady quiver
bc soon there will be 3 arso advanced 💀
plucky jay
Yea but not the gasoline can
visual bone
thats older than man technically
plucky jay
What's older than man
visual bone
Gas can
marsh wyvern
Cmon, it was the turning point of humanity
You can't arson caves though they are made out of rocks..
plucky jay
The red gasoline can?
dawn parcel
i think arson existed since ancient times
It came after sk yes
tranquil comet
nah but this ability #dev-vote message would be hella goated for a jailer advanced locksmith
quaint hamlet
You can't arson caves though they are made out of rocks..
smoke em out
tranquil comet
unique kill compared to jailer and warden if I say so myself
steady quiver
4️⃣ is role reworks and balance changes. Possibly a <:bully:1024711947955994665>...
will get a nerf
mark my words
plucky jay
Felneus what??
marsh wyvern
<:confusion_wolf:1115554365382590554> will get a nerf
Ah yes
plucky jay
That stops seers from checking
quaint hamlet
<:confusion_wolf:1115554365382590554> will get a nerf
noooo dont touch my puppy 😭
marsh wyvern
noooo dont touch my puppy 😭
The only nerf will be about rk kills
tranquil comet
That stops seers from checking
yeah if u jailed them and use shockwave
vague heath
I'm going to post new bp theme list to #battle-pass-49-outfit-ideas
quaint hamlet
o goodie
vague heath
I'm going to post new bp theme list to <#519838286122844171>
On 2nd September or so
But it's not a voting, just a list
latent locust
ok off to do my dailys
marsh wyvern
I just hope Bully with inf rocks is a joke
It is, I think the only change will be that it can throw multiple rocks at a day(one rock each day phase).
dawn parcel
I want a horror theme
We should all mass vote a horror/dark theme for Halloween then
Aka the next season
dawn parcel
That's a collection 👀
marsh wyvern
Dark magic sounds cool
It's already done
dawn parcel
Dark magic already was a bp theme
tranquil comet
of my locksmith rework:
advantage:
- its jailer that can protect itself as well as the target
- target is not role blocked so can be used as good protection role
+- killing ability comes with less risk of failure but easier to waste
disadvantage:
- self roleblocks itself if either player is attacked, breaking the lock
- also self roleblocks itself after using a shockwave and so can’t reliably be both a protector and a jailer at the same time
plucky jay
I just joined the game back so
plucky jay
Felneus just the first 2 sound op
This battle pass I bought is my first one since the monochrome
Or whatever
I was in school
tranquil comet
Felneus just the first 2 sound op
its an RSV role and theres a lot of reasons you would use Jailer over it still
plucky jay
just got my master's so I'm on a mini vacation lol
plucky jay
It feels so much better than warden though felneus
president is never getting added sorry
maybe in a crazy mode
dawn parcel
I think I know why we might get 3 roles now instead of 2
steady quiver
Confusion to only 1 time confusion
Or maybe the hidden roles will be revealed to everyone after a certain number of days
plucky jay
the damage will already be done
dawn parcel
Its cuz ft already existed in game and returns as playable role for each mode (except ranked)
tranquil comet
It feels so much better than warden though felneus
warden can jail/roleblock 2 other people independently and has very unique ways to get info
plucky jay
yea but you protect yourself and no role block
steady quiver
ft is useless, it's literally just a glorified claim
cloud cave
#dev-vote message Looking at #2… is siren getting added?
plucky jay
Ft can be used to weed out wolves
steady quiver
but wolves can reveal as anything now
plucky jay
Yes exactly
dawn parcel
https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/1145853629283...
Probs yes
marsh wyvern
https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/1145853629283...
Siren, toxic wolf and lurker I'd say since there are three role cards but could be more or less..
dawn parcel
but wolves can reveal as anything now
Just keep an eye out for late reveals/odly specific roles revealed with the card
tranquil comet
yea but you protect yourself and no role block
only from direct attacks and like I said, self role blocking itself is a major weakness that makes jailer/warden better over locksmith
plucky jay
how does it role block itself felneus
tranquil comet
how does it role block itself felneus
if the lock is broken. either by the lock being hit by a direct attack or locksmith using a shockwave against the jailed player
plucky jay
so locksmith like bg but better
If it doesn't role block enemy what's the point at all
vague heath
https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/1145853629283...
Siren quite op with me and arso. I dont think it suitables to be added now. Unless it's got nerfing
plucky jay
wolves can still do whatever they need to do
tranquil comet
if locksmith wants to keep its provability and protection styles, ideally I’d want it to fit as an advanced Jailer to give it RSV status and also cuz Jailer only has one advanced role at the moment
next cedar
I really hope that them putting spy emoji in #dev-vote isn’t there to give me false hope
tranquil comet
I had a Spy rework idea in the past too
although I stole it from one of the roles in Hypos tournament lol
plucky jay
Lol
next cedar
3 is def honor season 2 tho lol
tranquil comet
basically u check 3 people if there is an odd or even number of villagers between them and then u can check one of the 3 players if they belong to the village team or not
that was the general idea
next cedar
Tbh the only thing I’m curious about is #2, unless it was leaked and I didn’t notice
marsh wyvern
Tbh the only thing I’m curious about is #2, unless it was leaked and I didn’t no...
New roles
marsh wyvern
The three role cards and siren's kill icon. Could this mean we get siren and 2 more new roles? Well probably yes but it's unsure of we get 3.
plucky jay
No 4 is optimized roles
next cedar
The three role cards and siren's kill icon. Could this mean we get siren and 2 m...
But sure, if that theory is correct maybe we could get 
and all at once
In that case it would also make sense to seperate them
marsh wyvern
Well if you look at the cozy vibes peeks than you can see role changes and new roles are in the same category so indeed 4(or 2) could be a different thing.
marsh wyvern
But sure, *if* that theory is correct maybe we could get <:Spy:10532417732348641...
I'd say we get and 
though. Ft is just tested and it's broken, spy is also broken.
next cedar
Did we both just say arguements in favor for the other
next cedar
I'd say we get <:siren:1122965550981714021> <:toxic_wolf:1122965704128340118> an...
Way too much evils at once
calm nimbus
If we get siren I will cry
next cedar
Ft is balanced, spy could be nerfed
steady quiver
@heady mantle the second daily outfit of yours has an EE
calm nimbus
I feel like ft will bot come back cause a lot of people are complaining about it
marsh wyvern
If we get siren I will cry
We definitely getting the siren i mean look at 2, siren's kill icon and 3 role cards.
calm nimbus
Damn
marsh wyvern
I feel like ft will bot come back cause a lot of people are complaining about it
It needs a rework or a buff
calm nimbus
Lurker and toxic are so much cooler
Remove mechanic of killing after death since it makes no sense, make siren ignore protection, and add something else to balance it
next cedar
It needs a rework or a buff
Its a Lm adv, its playstyle does actually mimic Lm playstyle despite the abilities seeming different
heady mantle
<@694079064889360435> the second daily outfit of yours has an EE
EE??
calm nimbus
Remove mechanic of killing after death since it makes no sense, make siren ignor...
For siren btw
marsh wyvern
Lurker and toxic are so much cooler
Siren is not that bad a slight buff would make it great, like she's getting wounded and killing every entranced player instead of dying.
calm nimbus
I hope if siren comes back it gets massively changed at least
calm nimbus
Siren is not that bad a slight buff would make it great, like she's getting woun...
No
steady quiver
You match with someone and you get a black and white shirt with a heart chain
calm nimbus
Killing after death for an rk is literally the dumbest ability ever
heady mantle
:0
dawn parcel
Killing after death for an rk is literally the dumbest ability ever
Sl:
calm nimbus
But sl is different
marsh wyvern
No
Just a one phase delay though, it'll just make siren win instead of tying the game.
marsh wyvern
No killing after death for rk
Well that's maybe why they liked it and added it to sb. It's quite unique
calm nimbus
Well that's maybe why they liked it and added it to sb. It's quite unique
It might be unique, but that doesnt mean it's good
Tbh I dont really care since it wont be added to ranked, but it stole a spot from a good role like toxic ww or lurker and there are a lot better rk ideas if the devs just wanted to add an rk
tranquil comet
@calm nimbus did u see my locksmith rework idea
calm nimbus
Well that's maybe why they liked it and added it to sb. It's quite unique
Btw the reason I am against it is because for role like avenger or jww, killing someone after your death can help your team but for siren you're not helping anyone, you're probably ruining the game for a team and on top of that you lose the game yourself
calm nimbus
<@1025869304874410096> did u see my locksmith rework idea
No
marsh wyvern
Tbh I dont really care since it wont be added to ranked, but it stole a spot fro...
You mean toxic ww and lurker stole a role spot or the siren stole the spot of toxic wolf and lurker?
calm nimbus
You mean toxic ww and lurker stole a role spot or the siren stole the spot of to...
Siren probably stole the spot of toxic ww or lurker
calm nimbus
<@1025869304874410096> did u see my locksmith rework idea
Send link
marsh wyvern
Siren probably stole the spot of toxic ww or lurker
Well there are 3 role cards so other 2 is probably toxic ww and lurker.
tranquil comet
actually i updated the desc a bit
“Each day you can select a player to lock in with you at night. Both of you will be protected until the lock is broken. The other player is still able to use abilities during the night. You can silently activate a shockwave once per game, killing the other player if they (their team) kill anyone that night. If either one of you is attacked (including via the shockwave), the lock will break leaving you both unprotected”
dawn parcel
why do people still think Lurker gets released
calm nimbus
<:keymaker:1007610039420325918> Locksmith
(Advanced role of Jailer)
“Each day y...
Good role tbh but it sounds like a new role, although I like it very much
calm nimbus
there has to be at least 1 vill role
What good village role is there to release
marsh wyvern
Spy?
dawn parcel
Ft
marsh wyvern
But it was broken
tranquil comet
Good role tbh but it sounds like a new role, although I like it very much
yeah I added the killing ability in
dawn parcel
Ft is useless
exactly why it's perfect to be released
tranquil comet
so the killing ability I added is already indirectly verified
so I just merged that role with locksmith’s current ability
marsh wyvern
exactly why it's perfect to be released
Lmao, then lurker is better than ft to be released
calm nimbus
exactly why it's perfect to be released
It's somehow more useless than fc, it definetly shouldnt be released
dawn parcel
Lurker = non vill
tranquil comet
because I would hate to have a provable BG thats just a useless space of air
marsh wyvern
Lurker = non vill
Lurker maybe non-villager but it's not evil
calm nimbus
so I just merged that role with locksmith’s current ability
If they add your ls idea I think it would actually be a balanced role
tranquil comet
im gonna make a post later about it but if locksmith wants to keep provability its better to be RSV
calm nimbus
But every new release seems so unbalanced rn...
marsh wyvern
won't happen at the same time
It's not a threat either
dawn parcel
It's somehow more useless than fc, it definetly shouldnt be released
why exactly is ft useless in your vision
calm nimbus
Ft and siren are trash, ls spy are too op
marsh wyvern
why exactly is ft useless in your vision
It's just fancier claims
calm nimbus
why exactly is ft useless in your vision
It's just a claim card
tranquil comet
toxic is unoriginal and bland despite it not having much flaws
calm nimbus
toxic is unoriginal and bland despite it not having much flaws
Toxic is balanced thats why I want it
visual bone
<:keymaker:1007610039420325918> Locksmith
(Advanced role of Jailer)
“Each day y...
hmmm i love contracting a locksmith just for him to pound the ground so hard i die
calm nimbus
Idc if it's unoriginal, cause original ≠ good
dawn parcel
This Ft is still better then the old one since it removes reveal or die
visual bone
not really
dawn parcel
and it gives a slight more claim space for evils
visual bone
its still "reveal asap so you confirm yourself or die"
dawn parcel
This Ft can't even give cards night 1 so it's not a big deal either
calm nimbus
I mean you can claim like rrv mayor as ww seer and I think thats the only good part about ft
marsh wyvern
This Ft is still better then the old one since it removes reveal or die
Ok but no one said they either will add the new ft or old ft, they can just buff it or create a new rework.
visual bone
if they are testing the role
dawn parcel
Ok but no one said they either will add the new ft or old ft, they can just buff...
the new ft will be added obviously
dawn parcel
President will also get a rework soon
calm nimbus
the new ft will be added obviously
I think it will, however I dont want it too
marsh wyvern
supposedly thats the version that will get launched
What about storm wolf?
calm nimbus
Toxic and lurker were my favorites to be added but it seems none of them will be added
visual bone
wasnt storm wolf buffed post launch
calm nimbus
What about storm wolf?
From what I've heard, they merged all abilities into one and gave it two uses
marsh wyvern
wasnt storm wolf buffed post launch
No it got removed and they added it completely different with a rework.
calm nimbus
Toxic will get added
How do you know?
dawn parcel
if no new roles will be made
tranquil comet
Lurker I’d like to see as advanced Cupid and primarily be a solo helper, I 100% want to see more methods of helping solos win without the win being aided so much by losing opposing factions like vill or ww
calm nimbus
Lurker I’d like to see as advanced Cupid and primarily be a solo helper, I 100% ...
Like a ww fan for rk basically?
dawn parcel
if no new roles will be made
the next testing roles will be with and 
with
tranquil comet
Like a ww fan for rk basically?
u could say that yeah
as advanced Cursed its pretty meh and I don’t like the condition that u have to attack it first for it to join your team
joining village is toxic cuz they reveal and ask to be shot
and joining ww well.. what makes that different from cursed or wwf then
calm nimbus
joining village is toxic cuz they reveal and ask to be shot
At least you waste a village ability
dawn parcel
Lurker I’d like to see as advanced Cupid and primarily be a solo helper, I 100% ...
Or Lurker becomes base with Gr as advanced
marsh wyvern
joining village is toxic cuz they reveal and ask to be shot
If there's a player that enjoys to play as village then they play gr not lurker
tranquil comet
If there's a player that enjoys to play as village then they play gr not lurker
makes sense
calm nimbus
Tbh at first I didnt really like lurker but after seeing the other options I've grown to like it 😅
tranquil comet
if Lurker is advanced Cupid theres a lot of interesting ways to rework Lurker. my personal favorite is allowing Lurker to know the identities of all solo players at the start
so it can begin to find ways to ally with them in order to fulfill a goal of helping a solo role win / go against vill and ww to see them lose
calm nimbus
if Lurker is advanced Cupid theres a lot of interesting ways to rework Lurker. m...
Easiest informer fake of all time
visual bone
you forgot spirit seer
dawn parcel
How do you know?
the vote on 2
tranquil comet
and to make sure its not just a sitting duck if solo roles just die off, it should have the ability to become a dead solo role
next cedar
you forgot spirit seer
You forgot sheriff
visual bone
i did indeed
tranquil comet
GR obviously can already do it
calm nimbus
the vote on 2
Someone mentionned it's a siren icon
tranquil comet
but its based on target
marsh wyvern
You forgot sheriff
You forgot red lady
tranquil comet
so its RNG
calm nimbus
So I assumed siren will be added
dawn parcel
Siren kill icon with a card that's black and white (colors of tww)
visual bone
also colors of lurker
dawn parcel
Lurker is black white red
next cedar
You forgot red lady
Nah rl fakes feel kinda obvious
visual bone
the 4 pixels for the eyes barely count as red
calm nimbus
**Siren kill** icon with a **card** that's **black and white** (colors of tww)
I get it now, but card doesnt seem related to ft since every voting has been cards to represent advanced roles
marsh wyvern
Nah rl fakes feel kinda obvious
What if there are several rl claims?
visual bone
you make them all visit eachother
dawn parcel
I get it now, but card doesnt seem related to ft since every voting has been car...
not all
calm nimbus
Nah rl fakes feel kinda obvious
I won as arso rl once
next cedar
What if there are several rl claims?
All of them are fake until proven dead
tranquil comet
If there's a player that enjoys to play as village then they play gr not lurker
despite me not seeing Lurker as an advanced Cursed role the playstyles do add up
Cursed: don’t care
GR: Village lover
WWF: WW lover
Lurker: Solo lover
marsh wyvern
you make them all visit eachother
Bruh what if all of them are fake💀
dawn parcel
the previous vote was a rock which was roles with role changes
next cedar
Bruh what if all of them are fake💀
Then they all lied
visual bone
Bruh what if all of them are fake💀
then vill is gonna have a hard time
next cedar
calm nimbus
I'd be fine with ft toxic tbh
robust elk
the next testing roles will be <:Spy:1053241773234864138> with <:lurker:11155544...
kimberly is this confirmed
calm nimbus
Ft >>>> siren
dawn parcel
kimberly is this confirmed
Spy was leaked with lurker in a image for sb
marsh wyvern
Then they all lied
Then they all will say other rrv claims/fake or real informer claims are fake.
brisk heath
will they release siren?????
dawn parcel
so most likely
brisk heath
Siren is worse than sk
calm nimbus
Whats 1 btw
calm nimbus
Siren is worse than sk
Yea
robust elk
Spy was leaked with lurker in a image for sb
can you show it
next cedar
Then they all will say other rrv claims/fake or real informer claims are fake.
You have to realize they contridict themselves if they clear eachother too much
dawn parcel
Whats 1 btw
skin sharing with code
calm nimbus
skin sharing with code
Oh ok boring lol
brisk heath
So Siren and Toxic wolf?
robust elk
and ft
marsh wyvern
Siren is worse than sk
Definitely not, 1 kill per night and avenges her death
calm nimbus
I mean good addition but I'm not overly excited for it
steady quiver
Bonjour !!
brisk heath
BUT
calm nimbus
4 seems related to custom games setting?
brisk heath
IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE
robust elk
Definitely not, 1 kill per night and avenges her death
avenging death didnt profit you
marsh wyvern
Bonjour !!
brisk heath
SO you avenging your death doesn t profit you
calm nimbus
4 seems related to custom games setting?
@dawn parcel
brisk heath
it just damages the village/wolfs
marsh wyvern
avenging death didnt profit you
Ok but it doesn't make her worse than sk
dawn parcel
<@621716079588409346>
I think role changes or wov on steam
robust elk
@dawn parcel can you show where you got leaks
dawn parcel
<@621716079588409346> can you show where you got leaks
I'm trying to find it
dusk hemlock
4 seems related to custom games setting?
prob role mechanism change
calm nimbus
I think role changes or wov on steam
Oh yeah role changes seem fitting
marsh wyvern
she is slower than sk
Ahem but you can blackmail other players.
robust elk
if lurker isnt coming as gr base I am gonna be TwTing
calm nimbus
3 is ranked gold league 👀
robust elk
it is honor season
calm nimbus
3 is ranked gold league 👀
(Probably not)
marsh wyvern
if lurker isnt coming as gr base I am gonna be TwTing
Then start TwT ing
calm nimbus
it is honor season
Oh
robust elk
TWT
brisk heath
Ahem but you can blackmail other players.
siren feels like prebuff forger
calm nimbus
Thats ok I guess
brisk heath
slow and SLOW
visual bone
TwT, TnT even
calm nimbus
I hope astro butcher nwm and forger get some deserved nerfs
brisk heath
Well PREACHER mains love it due to free votes
calm nimbus
I hope astro butcher nwm and forger get some deserved nerfs
But I've given up on this idea a while ago
visual bone
SHERIFF mains also love it because of the easy investigations
brisk heath
Make Witch tree rsv
robust elk
free votes from fish
marsh wyvern
slow and SLOW
Slow? Sure arsonist tree is supposed to be slow anyway but you can still blackmail other players and may scare them to kill you.
brisk heath
bomber and alche are fast
robust elk
1,5 kill rate
marsh wyvern
bomber and alche are fast
Bomber is slower
brisk heath
SO fast compared to siren
robust elk
but siren has 1,33
brisk heath
bomber is 1,5
robust elk
so they have faster kill rate
brisk heath
Fastest is Ed
marsh wyvern
but siren has 1,33
Bro how did you get that rate
robust elk
at maximum with the mechanics you say it should be 1,33
brisk heath
no siren has 1
marsh wyvern
at maximum with the mechanics you say it should be 1,33
It's 1
robust elk
watermelon said something like that but I think it is 1 too
calm nimbus
watermelon said something like that but I think it is 1 too
No
brisk heath
Siren is 4 if you die d1 🤡
marsh wyvern
Lol
calm nimbus
I never counted siren kill speed lol
robust elk
siren has slower kill rate than sk and easy to counter just nerfed arso
siren is slower than astro
arso
brisk heath
it doesn t even bypass protection 💀
marsh wyvern
siren has slower kill rate than sk and easy to counter just nerfed arso
1 is lower than 1???
robust elk
it is half the time since you just inform from early on
marsh wyvern
Oh you said slower
brisk heath
and yeah why they are getting a notification lmao
next cedar
1 is lower than 1???
2 every 2 nights is slower than 1 every 1 night
robust elk
I meant arso not sk
brisk heath
yes
marsh wyvern
2 every 2 nights is slower than 1 every 1 night
Well siren is both slow and fast since you can kill midnight
robust elk
arso has 1,5 while siren has 1
next cedar
Well siren is both slow and fast since you can kill midnight
Like how alch is faster than bb but actually has the same killrate
robust elk
Like how alch is faster than bb but actually has the same killrate
alch has the fastest kill with the cost of not bypassing prots
next cedar
arso has 1,5 while siren has 1
Arso’s killrate isn’t exactly a “rate” just bc its weird
brisk heath
arso doesn t have a proper one
marsh wyvern
"lets lynch siren and hope it kills ww"
Bro you can do a quick check if villagers are entranced💀💀
robust elk
or you just abuse preacher br sherrif to abuse siren
next cedar
"lets lynch siren and hope it kills ww"
Rare situations tbh
brisk heath
Bro you can do a quick check if villagers are entranced💀💀
We are playing a game where villagers don t claim even tho sorcerer+wolf fan ig
robust elk
I milked siren a lot of
robust elk
Rare situations tbh
half of my games
next cedar
half of my games
Have not seen that once
brisk heath
And half of siren games end up with tie
marsh wyvern
We are playing a game where villagers don t claim even tho sorcerer+wolf fan ig
Just say "who's entranced or x are you entranced?"
robust elk
if ft is coming I am gonna sue wolvesville devs
next cedar
This community is becoming more like the pokemon community every second
visual bone
how so?
brisk heath
how is pokemon community like
visual bone
Unsatisfied no matter what they get
that ougth to happen with most communities
robust elk
I am not satisfied with a villager that helps evils a arso advanced made of just nerfs
next cedar
that ougth to happen with most communities
Yeah but pokemon has it reallll bad
calm nimbus
Unsatisfied no matter what they get
But new roles are bad
brisk heath
the problem is
dusk hemlock
Unsatisfied no matter what they get
you should know about fut community
brisk heath
Siren is F tier
robust elk
like both br and avg out power ft
brisk heath
literal F
calm nimbus
Btw we love most of the things added but we complain about the bad things
visual bone
nah?
brisk heath
ft is ridiculous
brisk heath
only toxic ww is good
dawn parcel
siren f current ft f
I wouldn't put ft so low it isn't that bad
brisk heath
but Idk
robust elk
I wouldn't put ft so low it isn't that bad
current ft has fancy rolecall
brisk heath
I wouldn't put ft so low it isn't that bad
lady it is because you have role icons that you can flex
dusk hemlock
only toxic ww is good
toxic is quite of slow
calm nimbus
I wouldn't put ft so low it isn't that bad
Ft is really bad
robust elk
and it kinda destroys stay hidden rrv
frozen summit
Is siren one of the new roles?
brisk heath
toxic is quite of slow
normally I also didn t like iy
calm nimbus
Probably the worst village role ever tested in terms of strenght
robust elk
like if I get a card as preacher I am fed up
brisk heath
but since I look like a Karen rn I act like I like it
dusk hemlock
better if it places mark at day and then it is activated right at the next night
dusk hemlock
Probably the worst village role ever tested in terms of strenght
yk theres president and forkman
marsh wyvern
Is siren one of the new roles?
Yes probably cause the second icon have the siren's killing icon.
robust elk
that would be too op
dusk hemlock
and i rate ft higher than fc nah
brisk heath
Ft confuses the village
calm nimbus
Forkman is better than ft at least it doesnt give evils good cred
robust elk
at least fc saves someone