#speculations

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jolly pilot
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Eh, agree to disagree

regal nova
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Not a leak btw

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But

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Now i wanna compare this to the old rt video

dusky perch
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first time i thought icon is shopping bag

half citrus
next cedar
# regal nova

Tbh this actually makes sense as what judges ability couldve been

jolly pilot
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Naughty naughty

daring parcel
regal nova
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Plus we got astronomer in all fairness

next cedar
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Old astronomer was actually interesting, if it was in game I might not have forger

low pelican
daring parcel
charred drift
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here's our journalist ||with @frigid ermine ||

steep hinge
charred drift
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yeah

cursive brook
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Why censor the number of talismans we all know it's between 800-1100 👀 each

dusky perch
tawny cosmos
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OMG UR TALISMANS 🙀 🙀

charred drift
dusky perch
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😭😭

dusky perch
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fix seer app when !

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seer app and cant turn to seer 😐

regal nova
regal nova
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That's an objectuve improvement with exactly 1 exception:
Being the only protectir alive with RK alive

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At which point you have to ask:
why?

dusk hemlock
dusky perch
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fix seer app not turning day1 when!!

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😭

opal quest
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Really?

torpid sparrow
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OH MY GOD GETTING TURNED INTO accomplice OR zombie WONT MATTER NOW YAAAAAY

latent locust
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now we can get play as cursed/gr (?)

charred drift
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they were saying that they didnt do it because it'd cause teaming,guess they value the community's ideas

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so,go on make dark mode free 🤭

tranquil comet
charred drift
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scary i know

torpid sparrow
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If ur you do 6 weeks of quest, its yours!

charred drift
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yeah,2 weeks of grinding is pretty cheap but why make qol change paid

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no it actually doesnt take a long time but

torpid sparrow
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Isnt it270 gems

charred drift
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it's best for the players

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260

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idk maybe its that i grind hard

torpid sparrow
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45gem/w

charred drift
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im on lvl 91 or smth bp so its prob not best to compare me with it

humble current
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Nerf preacher

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Buff butcher

low pelican
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I never c them

humble current
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Upvoted

latent locust
charred drift
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(as a fellow golden preacher enjoyer(

low pelican
regal nova
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GR was rng

abstract grail
regal nova
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wtfh

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10 potential people against vill

tropic blade
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ofc

next cedar
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Cause tbh butcher/nwm is a good tool to teach players how to be good at protecting

tranquil comet
# abstract grail

more than 10 actually, because bandit can have infinite accomplices

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most sane village in ohio

low dagger
# abstract grail

Kitten converting when death
Werewolves killing night 1
Bandits keep getting multiple accos

Yeah this village is in rumbles

tropic blade
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spectacular

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change aww for stub ww / ww sum

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thats another ww

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change wolf seer for sorc

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thats like

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a seer

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berserk ww to deal the max amount of damage since we already have enough votes to win

tropic blade
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quiet*

steady quiver
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ITS THE SAME

tropic blade
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it aint

steady quiver
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What?

tropic blade
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it aint the same

steady quiver
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Its not the same *

tropic blade
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you clearly know no english lmao

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go back to #spanish if what you intend is to troll

feral saffron
odd flint
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How do you get the plunger hat? I saw it referenced in the Wolvesville bingo

marble remnant
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its an EE that you get if you encounter a server restart while ingame
im not sure of they offer it anymore

odd flint
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Oh, okay. Thanks!

grizzled oxide
agile basin
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4 wws, 1 rvoting, 1 bandit, at least 1 accomplice, 1 instigator, 1 vill recruit and 1 villager turned by kitten

charred drift
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count that as 1 recruit

lethal gale
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seems fair

agile basin
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Ah true

regal nova
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(Those roles are dummy op)

abstract grail
visual bone
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The ammount of effort people put into that just for both of your recruits to be silent all game

jolly pilot
vague heath
# abstract grail

1 insti 4 ww 1 voting 1 bandit 1 acco 1 recruit vill. We have 6 normal vills :))))

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At 1st day

tranquil comet
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so much for people who wanted to nerf village

dusky perch
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ngl cupid shouldnt be with bandit

coarse sedge
tranquil comet
hidden obsidian
# abstract grail

I commend ur effort but sadly most people probably ain’t reading althat.

solar ravine
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Im not a big fan of village team but that setup isnt balanced for village

dim trout
slate hull
tropic blade
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why tho

charred drift
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i mean used to

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(i dont play insti anymore but)

lethal gale
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I can't remember all of that while also paying attention to the game

charred drift
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don't know if it's reportable for teaming/coding since they Are a team.

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i just ask them to compliment the strongest ww

dusk hemlock
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doesnt matter if they are a team or not

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emoji coding is the same, they are villager helping villager

charred drift
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they're the unknown majority though

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while these are known minorities

dusk hemlock
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still a form of coding and not allowed

feral saffron
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pasting on web still broken tho 🤔

agile basin
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It's not broken, is disabled 👀

dusky perch
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sect_agree storm rework

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copy pasting was always a problem aganist storm ability

opaque mulch
agile basin
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Making lists is stressful now, tbh

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but ☝️

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None of my bussiness

dusky perch
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buff storm and i will be fine

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adv role weaker than base 💀

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shuffle for what when random kid made list already

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voodoo the best

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GW_pika_think but devs cant make avatars and name dont shuffle ?

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that will be op lol

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feelsfunny with bully reveal role with one rock

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GW_sadness but still waiting for ft test

dusky perch
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ahahahah

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yeh its will be op

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hope its misspell

tranquil comet
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revealing is just an unfair mechanic in general

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not that its op, but just terrible to play with

tropic blade
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actually why not

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gunner base and bully advanced

tranquil comet
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only loudmouth really has an excuse since it has to die first

tropic blade
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and paci

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because paci

tranquil comet
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they removed gunner base on purpose

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so new players wouldn’t get gunner in their first game

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it would have to be bully base or some other alternative

tropic blade
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xd

tranquil comet
# tropic blade xd

they also don’t just remove roles either, fortune teller was removed but is getting a re work

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although I haven’t seen any good vigi reworks

dusky perch
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but vigi better than gunner for the throwing

tranquil comet
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no gunner is still the better thrower

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vigi can only throw 1/2 as much as gunner can at best

dusky perch
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ii think they are going to combine storm ability at one jww_vibing
hide vote , shuffle and clear chat all in one button

chilly rose
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No chance to claim I got shot and he fled 😃

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I wouldn’t mind a small rework for vigi, but I don’t have any ideas

tranquil comet
# chilly rose I wouldn’t mind a small rework for vigi, but I don’t have any ideas

I mean if Vigilante was really to neuter damage from game throwers, why not just make it so you can’t use the bullet without first using your reveal? the reveal obviously needs reworks still too and while it would instead increase random revealing, which I don’t think is a bad thing when village has no other info, its a good compromise to delay any malicious uses of the bullet and in order to use bullets early it would encourage players to upgrade vigilante to get the true experience

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like I totally didn’t steal the idea of astronomer having to use both abilities in the same night, or at least have to kill someone first before being able to new moon

steady quiver
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Where can you get the emote holding the wov sign? ( Please help im desperate )

feral saffron
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Devs really said 'let's release cww' and then didn't bring shaman into a single set-up GW_kek_dog

steady quiver
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You just say "wolvesville" this entire time?

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Aw shucks

dusky perch
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not sure about wolvesville

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its wov always work

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this one isnt?

tranquil comet
steady quiver
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I saw somebody said "Hello wolvesville!" And got the emote earlier

charred drift
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qg had shaman in prev setup

teal ravine
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Mother fuck they replaced avg with lm in sandbox set up

feral saffron
chilly rose
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Unless someone picks avenger or bell-ringer

calm nimbus
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Avenger > Lm

chilly rose
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Avenger is the advanced role of loudmouth ever since the card update

calm nimbus
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But some bozos were crying since they couldnt pick the base role or use talisman on avenger

chilly rose
feral saffron
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I see trolls tagging villagers as avg a lot

next cedar
calm nimbus
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Yeah I hate lm but I love avenger

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And I dont have avenger card

pearl wasp
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I love bellringer

dusky perch
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BUT I KEEP GETTING FIXED AVG

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change setup when!

pearl wasp
dusky perch
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OMG

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finally its lm not avg

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now i can be rrv all games

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hope they fix seer app too

pearl wasp
dusky perch
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and made problems for assassin mode xD

pearl wasp
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🤷🏻

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side effect

teal ravine
charred drift
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loudmouth is pretty decent ngl

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sacrifices themselves for reveal which is the most op thing fr

dusky perch
cloud cave
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Are servers down rn? 🤔

dusky perch
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its my connection or game server heavy

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oh yeh

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ft coming? 😄

cloud cave
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maybe? 👀

calm nimbus
charred drift
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holy duck

calm nimbus
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No

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I like the role but it's shit in terms of power

dusk hemlock
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fc is born for one job, countering shadow

charred drift
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yeah

dusk hemlock
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in couple its not even that strong

calm nimbus
dusky perch
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i prefer paci

dusk hemlock
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paci is stupidly more powerful than fc

dusky perch
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i like easy roles

dusk hemlock
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who thought it is a good idea to put them together in one role card

charred drift
calm nimbus
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And tbh there's no real hard roles

charred drift
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i hope youre sarcastic

calm nimbus
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Hardest would be like bh and trapper

calm nimbus
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There's nothing wrong about liking something that's strong

dusk hemlock
calm nimbus
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Yeah

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All wws are hard lol

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(Sounds kinda weird saying it like that)

charred drift
dusky perch
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confusion_wolf hope my flee dont get 1 extra cuz of the server

charred drift
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fortune_teller where

distant snow
sinful heron
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?

distant snow
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die Nachricht

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darüber

toxic blade
distant snow
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I know I know didn‘t plan on continuing speaking German

toxic blade
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Still even the few messages sent must be in the right language

distant snow
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As said, I won‘t continue

tropic blade
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holy hell

tawny cosmos
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New X badge when 👀

dusky perch
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bully buff when!

marsh wyvern
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Check my aura😶

jolly pilot
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Are there any other changes you know of or can tell us Salem?

dusky perch
jolly pilot
tranquil comet
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putting shuffle and clear chat as combined ability is hardly a buff

jolly pilot
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Oh lmfao

dusky perch
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well

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shuffle now will be twice

jolly pilot
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Can you do both at once?

tranquil comet
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lets gooooooo

dusky perch
jolly pilot
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That's not the worst tbh

tranquil comet
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so they combined every ability into an ability that does all of them, and then its 2 uses

dusky perch
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GW_kek_dog buff bully now turning to be seer getting info at day

jolly pilot
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Maybe they can squash that shuffle voting bug

tranquil comet
jolly pilot
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After, Idk, 6 months

tranquil comet
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i mean me being an avid storm user its gonna be great

jolly pilot
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I'm so sick of Storm Wolves saving their shuffle until voting, you KNOW when it's gonna happen too

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It's either they shuffle immediately or wait until voting

calm nimbus
dusky perch
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we need seer who can kill

calm nimbus
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Evil seer

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You check a player every night and decide if you kill him or not

dusky perch
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ok i lie bully wont be seer

calm nimbus
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Any hints of an astro nerf?

dusky perch
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nothing yet

calm nimbus
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Sadge

calm nimbus
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To the devs ask specific people or anyone can just join?

primal flare
dusky perch
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im not there

calm nimbus
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With different nerfs each

calm nimbus
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How do you have access to ft then 🤨

primal flare
jolly pilot
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Maybe, idk

calm nimbus
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Whats nda?

jolly pilot
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Non-disclosure agreement

dusky perch
calm nimbus
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Oh

calm nimbus
jolly pilot
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Legally binding someone to not be able to say some things by contract

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Idk, maybe, maybe not

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Or Salem just doesn't say, which in all honesty is more likely lol

calm nimbus
primal flare
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Ok

regal nova
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Thoughts on the chances of the hypo RT roles getting into the game?

jolly pilot
regal nova
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I mean forger got in

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And the size of this RT is much larger than the video that showcased forger

jolly pilot
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So did Violinist, which was in a similar boat

regal nova
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(On par with the server rt)

jolly pilot
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I'd love to see a few of em in-game, but we'll just have to wait and see

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I hope they don't run out of ideas for roles, though

regal nova
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I mean considering where they've gone?

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(Namely astro butcher storm ww)

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Doubtful

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I mean I hope it doesn't turn into a p2w version if mafia.gg either

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Which has like every role concept under the sun

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(No instant actions / crazy gamemodes tho, obviously)

jolly pilot
regal nova
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Ehhhhh

jolly pilot
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I say that, but Storm exists

regal nova
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Astro is closer to old butcher

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I had a role called 'florist'

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RSV protector

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But then butcher happened

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Oh that reminds me

jolly pilot
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Oh, congrats with Journalist btw

regal nova
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I accidentally sent a ss of jn/sb to the mafia.gg server

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Ty

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Which

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fair

jolly pilot
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Eh, we've had a lot of roles recently go from Sandbox to full game without anything more than small tweaks

regal nova
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Well yea but

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The thing they said just before still holds true

jolly pilot
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Oh yeah, absolutely

versed shoal
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Just make ft a br advanced.

and make br a base role.

I am a br main and i'd be down with that. Br will actually be realized as an actual role in the game if it was a base role.

regal nova
versed shoal
regal nova
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Ah

versed shoal
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A lot of people still say "new role?" when i play br

jolly pilot
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Sounds like a win-win

versed shoal
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I actually like br better than ave

jolly pilot
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Which is likely how the community would vote that

versed shoal
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no. I want the lm/br to be turned to br/ft

  • this is probably how it will go as br owners will instantly have access to ft
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i don't want lm/ave

jolly pilot
regal nova
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That's kinda the opposite of the point of the upgrades

regal nova
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9 times of 10 you get a card to get the advanced

versed shoal
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this case is different

jolly pilot
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Did that not happen? Am I going crazy

regal nova
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Unless you're saying 2 perks > adv role?

jolly pilot
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Istg my RL/Sheriff card became RL/GL

regal nova
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Community votes

jolly pilot
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Indeed, which have precedent

versed shoal
regal nova
jolly pilot
versed shoal
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if ft releases as at the same time as br turning into base role, people will get ft

regal nova
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I can almost guarantee if someone likes BR more than lm/av, they'll pick ft over av

jolly pilot
regal nova
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Depensing on the given rework

dawn parcel
versed shoal
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people have been long waiting for ft, and br would be great as base role for it.

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The thing is, sometimes, you don't want to reveal a person's role to EVERYONE

regal nova
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imho br doesn't need to be a base role

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making families based around mechanics rather than purpose would be a detriment tbh

tranquil comet
calm nimbus
regal nova
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huh

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well there's that too

calm nimbus
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Imo they could just give us 10 random cards, one br card and one lm card so we can do whatever we want with them

regal nova
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based

calm nimbus
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Since #wov-chat became an among us discussion channel I will post my rrv rankings here. I love arguing so pls tell me if you think my opinion is stupid

31 Fc
30 Lm
29 Preacher
28 Baker
27 Br
26 Rl
25 Bg
24 Sheriff
23 Gl
22 Aura
21 Doc
20 Mayor
19 Ss
18 Vio
17 Bh
16 Avenger
15 Sa
14 Gg
13 Judge
12 Priest
11 Gambler
10 Tg
9 Paci
8 Flagger
7 Trapper
6 Mm
5 Witch
4 Butcher
3 Nwm
2 Forger
1 Astro

next cedar
calm nimbus
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Yes

regal nova
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swap butcher paci tbh

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wait nvm

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kinda hard to rank them

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feels like something more fit for a tierlist

calm nimbus
calm nimbus
mystic isle
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when are more role icons being released?

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i saw some really cool older icons

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the ones right now kinda suck tbh

mystic isle
next cedar
crisp agate
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I draw it

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And idk what's this

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And what topic in here ?

jolly pilot
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Because it's wrong

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Indeed

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I have golden Preacher

mystic isle
jolly pilot
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Just pulling your leg

mystic isle
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pfft yeah

mystic isle
charred drift
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huge skill issue ngl

calm nimbus
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Bruh

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Why is everyone crying about preacher

primal flare
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Cuz skill issues

calm nimbus
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What place should preacher be then

primal flare
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Over mayor? x3

charred drift
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preacher>>>>>mayor

calm nimbus
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Definetly not

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Mayor insta reveal and two votes

charred drift
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thats a skill issue of yours to not be able to guess 1 players death just to be equal to mayor

primal flare
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You just have skill issues

charred drift
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huge skill issue

calm nimbus
charred drift
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preacher also reveals if you say it

primal flare
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You also see it if you vote lmao

charred drift
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(although one game a vigi didnt believe me because i claimed a defensive rrv and then i showed them my votes)

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and we lost that ^

calm nimbus
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Yall assuming preacher is gonna guess night 1/2 lol

charred drift
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n2 you can guess dependin

calm nimbus
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It's still hard

primal flare
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Mayor < Baker < Preacher

charred drift
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Bakers mid right now

calm nimbus
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Ww arent always gonna kill confirmed players btw

charred drift
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or the games gonna have confirmed players left

primal flare
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Wws who kill unchecked players are just dumb

calm nimbus
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If bersek ig you can guess seer but otherwise no

charred drift
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also you can get free votes from witch arso etc

calm nimbus
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I never played preacher in sb tbh so it might be different

charred drift
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then do play it

calm nimbus
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I played it in ranked

charred drift
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preacher is definitely worth it

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unbiased

calm nimbus
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I just dont play a lot of sb and when I do play sb I join as hero

charred drift
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usually the right way to go

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i just wish advanced had ppl

calm nimbus
primal flare
calm nimbus
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I cant play qg without losing my mind lol

primal flare
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I‘m used to that

calm nimbus
charred drift
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tell that to my instant golden preacher

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someones writing a paragraph

calm nimbus
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No

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I just dont know what to say

charred drift
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yeah i definitely was not expecting a no from that

calm nimbus
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There was nothing I could say that was related to "tell that to my instant golden preacher"

charred drift
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you could've said that

torpid sparrow
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I was even thinking of suggesting a general-2 but its locked behind a certain level (lv12 or lv15)

tranquil comet
# calm nimbus Ww arent always gonna kill confirmed players btw

it really isn’t that difficult actually, especially in ranked. you can just have jailer/witch etc to shoot someone like usual and then guess the person they will shoot, boom one vote. mm says they will shoot but u know they will backfire, guess mm. confirmed RL claim? might as well guess RL too. any kill at night grants you extra votes, even kills that don’t come from ww or solo

tranquil comet
agile basin
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Fc being the 31 cannot be ordered by strenght

dusky perch
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what happened to this channel suddenly

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avg and lm shouldnt be hh's target

charred drift
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why not

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it encourages them to try to die to evils

dusky perch
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if rv in game u cant tell if its hh or jww so if u claim avg most ppl will say tag them if u avg and they lynch u then hh wins

grizzled hearth
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They could also be killed by villagers and not be lynched

dusky perch
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avg and lm is safe lynch they can tag who called them evil so not always will be killed by villager

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btw what is the odd of anti talisman ? anyone knows

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anti ww team + anti jww talisman and still got jww

agile basin
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I believe it decrease it to 1 "ball". I can ask if you want

agile basin
dusky perch
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GW_popcorn_cat i guess so cuz when avg was fixed i had 10% avg and 1% other roles

tropic blade
dusky perch
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i think talismans in game are broken

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using anti talisman for all roles and all team expect village team i still get ww roles which shouldn't be i should get villager cuz village team talisman is maxed and i use anti ww team as well

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maybe luck but still whats the chance to be ww over villager ?
4 out 16 and villager 10 out 16 and with village talisman should be higher

regal nova
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👀

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anywho

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in regards to the RT roles

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i think policeman/operator have a decent chance
not both together but one of them getting into the game is feasible

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(ideally the former)

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i'd say after that, journalist is the most likely (duh)

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SB is super customs-energy & would high-key fit better in mafia.gg
scout ww is super strong

next cedar
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Talisman premium should be like custom premium where it is cheaper for each talisman you own

opaque mulch
tranquil comet
calm nimbus
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Strenght

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Forky cant be rrv so I didnt include it

calm nimbus
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Nah

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Judge is weaker than people think it is

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Village votes almost every day which leads to judge not being able to use his ability often

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If village doesnt vote

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Like I said this list is based off ranked, idk if you play ranked or other gamemodes but in ranked voting is required almost every day if village doesnt want to lose so judge is only useful in the really late game

charred drift
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i like southern belle a lot tho ngl

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if it has a better hand

valid slate
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Guys, will siren be advanced of arsonist?

regal nova
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I honestly would have ranked it below glitch wolf as a judge

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maybe make up artist

charred drift
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cww ruined it

regal nova
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IDT the judges even considered it

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But i could be wrong there

charred drift
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i dont like makeup ngl

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the only roles idd add are journalist and southern belle

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lmk if i forgot any good ones

regal nova
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tbh

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SB feels more like a mafia.gg role personally

charred drift
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operator views 1 role 2 ppl right

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what did police do again

regal nova
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yea
police is the reverse

charred drift
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oh

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dont really like how they can choose doc and see 2 ppl

regal nova
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police is more closely aligned to det so i'd rather that (seems fun even if it's kinda rng)

regal nova
charred drift
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whays police then

regal nova
charred drift
regal nova
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understandable

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felt the same way abt sheriff innitially in all fairness

#

and

#

yea

charred drift
#

theres something not appealing abt that role that i cant explain

dusky perch
#

This face remind me of ww team talisman 😭

agile basin
#

Lol yes

jolly pilot
dusky perch
#

If each talisman reduce 50gems we have 39 talismans
39x50= 1950

#

3100-1950

charred drift
#

fair price

#

also each maxed talisman decrease?

dusky perch
#

What is the starting odd for talisman?

#

10?

charred drift
#

x10

#

up to x70

#

i have preacher ar 70

dusky perch
#

If 10 then u need 6k gold to max 1 talisman
That is 6,000x39=234,000

#

234k gold to get 1950gems discount

charred drift
#

might aswell reduce 100 gems

dusky perch
#

Lol that will be for free

charred drift
#

FREE???

agile basin
#

however, having maxed out talisman shouldn't affect premium talismans. x70 talismans becomes x80, so the purchase is still received

jolly pilot
#

Like I said, idk if that's worth it

frosty gorge
sudden urchin
# frosty gorge Is Preacher good?

It has the potential to be twice as good as mayor. There is also the possibility that you remain with one vote the entire game. If you have fun guessing who you think will die during the night, you will like preacher.

frosty gorge
sudden urchin
frosty gorge
sudden urchin
jolly pilot
charred drift
#

priest is good dont get mm or judge

#

mm needs time judge needs tie

dusk hemlock
#

mm generally better than priest to me

charred drift
#

it can be good but get necessary roles first

dusk hemlock
#

since theres fixed vigi (or gunner) mm is much better than priest

torpid sparrow
uncut marlin
#

Where can i buy it ? Or it never be able to buy it anymore ?

dusk hemlock
dusky perch
#

Old days 999

#

GW_kek_dog and ppl thought its expensive

dusk hemlock
#

it is

#

that cost for a visual "upgrade" is ridiculous

#

dark mode shouldnt even be paid in first place

graceful violet
#

fr bro i am literally going blind when i play wolvesville during the night

#

even using backgrounds is useless cuz the god damn chat is still white

signal crystal
#

Vigi the worst role ever

#

Reveal without any condition its no sense

sharp karma
valid slate
dusky perch
azure kettle
#

nah it's not reportable unless there is a confirmed evil

dusky perch
azure kettle
#

that's just a suggestion, it is not forbidden in the rules

dusky perch
#

all random is reportable anyway only priest and his advanced roles can random

lethal gale
#

may not be explicitly stated in the rules but it is enforced

azure kettle
#

it's pretty different, I also thought it was reportable until I was told it was not

#

but hey there's the #questions channel for these questions

lethal gale
azure kettle
#

damn misinformation got me

tranquil comet
lethal gale
#

I do think that the day 3 criteria should be included in the rules or in a new separate guidelines section

#

not every player is in the discord server

tranquil comet
#

either way, a lot of people know this and will not be afraid to give the a-ok if someone asks for consent to reveal

agile basin
azure kettle
tranquil comet
#

random is subjective but one thing is for sure, if the action was intended to give village a disadvantage then its game throwing

lethal gale
#

well, the rule is related to randoming, there are many circumstances that fall outside randoming

dusky perch
lethal gale
#

rules say you shouldn't randomly shoot/reveal, not that you shouldn't do it in general

tranquil comet
lusty gull
tranquil comet
#

so if the shooter says why he shot, its not a random

lethal gale
dusky perch
#

we only havee one rule about random killing and its said there

lethal gale
willow zealot
dusky perch
#

after all the case and what happened before the random will be viewed by guardians and take action not just cuz vigi revealed 4 without asking then its 100% ban

lethal gale
willow zealot
#

Yeah use the word guideline

lethal gale
#

I think it wouldn't harm to include another one, although I see the point the staff makes in the discussion you've linked

#

what I disagree is guidelines being only available for players that are in the discord server

willow zealot
#

Me too

#

So many people think cupid is a villager because team priorities aren't mentioned in the app (something else I put feedback on, got rejected)

lethal gale
#

that's my take at least

regal nova
#

Well

#

Iirc some guardians just say 'if it goes well it's not throwing'
And this applies to certain rules (namely, fakes)

#

But random reveal is more ABT stopping an oppressive strat

willow zealot
#

For my take on it - I don't want people treating it like a hard limit, the "random day" can be earlier or later depending on many factors, such as what informers found, if protectors are alive, if rk is in the bandit tree etc

lethal gale
#

absolutely

#

IMO something like @agile basin said in #questions message would be great to have somewhere in game:

"After day 3, it is considered that it is an advanced enough moment of the match so you can reveal or shoot based on your own suspections"

#

it doesn't explicitly state it as a rule

#

just a guideline

willow zealot
lethal gale
#

I feel like it isn't enough but hey this is the speculations channel, we're just rambling

torpid sparrow
# agile basin Actually it is

What if they are acting "sus"

Like softly trying to defend a ww and late-voting when it gets voted and being silent for the mostly
And some other clues which regular players might not catch

#

I have watched/played hundreds of hours of ToS1-2 and i have 800+ hours of WWO playtime. I can generally deduct if a player is evil or not but people tell me i team/random 🗿

agile basin
#

That's what the guide rules state. It is considered that after day 3, suspicious movements can start to be a clue to find evils, since there are less players alive and you can check if the behaviour is repeated (it's still better to ask for role of information first). You are not allowed to shoot based on your own suspicious in those first days since it can be due to douzen of causes.

dusk hemlock
#

also ridiculous that even guardians will accuse us of "randoming" when we def shoot reasonably with info 😂

agile basin
#

They are guiderules, and it still depend of the match, but waiting til day 3 will improve the chances of doing a good choice and not just a random one because they misckicled or didnnot realised who they were voting

dusk hemlock
#

and then get outnumbered/killed day 3

#

professional gaming

torpid sparrow
#

Well what if village just 💩s itself

All informers dead with no way to get them back on day2

dusk hemlock
#

people should learn to read and play the game by themselves instead of relying on info role

torpid sparrow
#

"bUt tH4tS nOT h0W yro'ue SuPPosEd t0 PlAaAAy"

dusk hemlock
#

mfw 30 day ban for pushing 2 obvious ww day 2

calm nimbus
#

The worst thing is being banned because some idiot refuses to claim so I shoot him and he ends up being village

torpid sparrow
calm nimbus
#

Or he claims rrv doc when doc has been dead for 3 days and he ends up being real

torpid sparrow
#

They are justified to random with no consequences

calm nimbus
#

You can random kill as rk if you want

torpid sparrow
calm nimbus
torpid sparrow
#

Bro ban the doctor

calm nimbus
#

Also apparently you can get banned for shooting a villager in jail even if they didnt claim

torpid sparrow
#

HUH

dusk hemlock
#

we get banned for playing the game in the right way

#

epic moderation

torpid sparrow
#

Bro i would contact the guardian manager myself if that happend

#

Not claiming at day and being shot by gunner: kinda understandable but not really

calm nimbus
#

When I'm jailer I just stay silent and if the person doesnt claim I shoot them and 95% of the time it's an evil player, but I still get reported often for that

torpid sparrow
#

Not claiming in JAIL: its just the jailee's fault

torpid sparrow
#

Strategy of staing silent as jailor is a great and advised strategy in town of salem (2) BUUT in wolvesville, you should ask for role

calm nimbus
dusky perch
#

@calm nimbus i got u bad news

torpid sparrow
#

Litteral NPCs fr

dusk hemlock
#

you cant hope much in people with negative average iq

calm nimbus
#

In sandbox if you ask someone their role they dont claim

calm nimbus
dusky perch
#

bully is getting buff 💀

charred drift
#

WHAT

#

!?!?$€×¥*40:4

calm nimbus
charred drift
#

5 rocks?

torpid sparrow
dusky perch
charred drift
#

yeah ill take 5 rocks b8t

torpid sparrow
#

SAUCE OR I SHOOT

charred drift
#

6

#

NO

#

NO

#

NO

torpid sparrow
#

i mean ROCK

charred drift
#

PLEASE NO

#

TELL ME

calm nimbus
#

Bully got buffed because someone clowns dont know how to play it

charred drift
#

STOP IM GONNA CRY

#

DOES IT GET ROLES NOW

torpid sparrow
#

Learns*

calm nimbus
#

I mean rocked

charred drift
#

JUST SY IT

#

PLEASE DONT GET ROLES

#

PLEASE

#

MAYBE 1 BRICK 2 ROCKS

#

1 INSTAKILL 2 ROCKS ILL TAKE IT

#

NOT AS BAD

#

@dusky perch @dusky perch

#

PLEASE

calm nimbus
#

Lmao

charred drift
#

YOURE SCARIN MW 😭

torpid sparrow
#

YOU ARE GIVING EVERYONE ANXIETY ATTACK TYOE FASTER 😭 😭 😭

charred drift
#

SALEM STOP BEING A GRANDMA JUST 5YPE

#

ISTG IF YOURE JOKING

torpid sparrow
dusky perch
#

GW_pika_think so somehow i was trying things on game files and i got description for bully without how many rocks its just saying everyday you can throw rock at player and only can kill 2 players in game
💀 but now i cant find how i got that description but if its what i think the buff is unlimited rocks but only can kill 2 players per game

calm nimbus
charred drift
#

SHAT

#

WHAT THE ACTUAL DUCKDKUCKV

torpid sparrow
#

WHAAAAA

charred drift
#

IM GONS CRY NO

#

NO

#

🤥🥶🤮🤓😔🤓🤧🥶🤮🥶🤮

midnight whale
#

So an infinite role blocker?

torpid sparrow
#

Instigated bully will be crayziii

calm nimbus
#

If that means jailer can come back in conj setup I'm all for it

dusky perch
#

GW_sadness seer bully would be better

torpid sparrow
#

I mean

#

Tavern keeper

charred drift
#

JUST SHUT ITTTTTT SALEM I HATE YOU 2929JR2NDWO3959394929493 WHYYY 😗😍😗😍😗😍☺😍☺

midnight whale
#

Granny and bully will be kinda similar then

charred drift
#

SALEM WHY DID YOU DO TIS

#

I AM FOREVER TRAUMATISED SALEM I LOVE YOU DO MUCH

calm nimbus
#

Random uneeded bully buff but astro is still stronger than med 👍

torpid sparrow
#

Well bully was kinda

#

Trash

#

Cuz its delayed kills

dusky perch
#

😭 i was trying to see if bully really will be able to see roles

calm nimbus
#

You shouldnt use bully for kills

calm nimbus
#

Two role blocks and 1 kill is the way to go I think

torpid sparrow
#

Yeah the stun is the game changer, but you need a whole lobby to cooperate

plush hollow
torpid sparrow
#

"GUYS I ROCKED THE SHADOW PLEASE GO FOR THE ALPHA"

plush hollow
#

And who knows maybe they can changelaterly 👀

charred drift
torpid sparrow
#

"NO DONT, STOP THEY ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO KILL"

calm nimbus
torpid sparrow
#

"STOOOOP"

#

village lynched shadow

plush hollow
charred drift
#

im pretty sure we are allowed to say "i like a role please dont change it"

torpid sparrow
plush hollow
calm nimbus
dusky perch
torpid sparrow
#

I have seen many times that this channel has affected the main game

calm nimbus
#

So it seems bully buff is planned

charred drift
dusky perch
#

its could be for testing and if didnt work then bully back to normal dw yet

torpid sparrow
#

Give bully 5 rocks

#

That would be more than enaugh for a buff

calm nimbus
#

Give astro 0 new moon better

torpid sparrow
#

No

#

Since astro is an astronome

#

And stars co-relate to jupiter in his icon

#

It should have 80 moons just like jupiter 😍 😍

calm nimbus
#

HAHAHAHS

#

YES

charred drift
#

but the solo killer is a sagittarius so it blocks him too!!!!😍😍

dusky perch
#

make astro block all kills again

charred drift
#

make astro block everyone

torpid sparrow
#

Make astro crash the entire lobby

charred drift
#

give astro an ability that insta vill wins when used

#

Astro rework :
Once per game,you can predict an eclipse. If no villager dies within 2 days,the game will end in a village win.

#

frfr

tropic blade
#

nah

steady quiver
#

Silence ninja

tropic blade
#

who the hell r u lol

steady quiver
#

You are a paleto boy

edgy snow
#

wtf

charred drift
#

its from salem

primal flare
#

I have questions to the easter eggs. What items are they? I don‘t want to know where to find them. I only want to know what they look like.

steady quiver
primal flare
marble remnant
#

a lot of them sadly are related to purchases though

#

not many will be discovered as a fun little accident

torpid sparrow
primal flare
charred drift
#

throwers will have the best time of their life

#

it will basically be like trickster

#

n1 taunt 1 n2 taunt 2

#

d1 rock 1 d2 rock 2 ask role kill one

tranquil comet
#

you can compare it that way, its also a more flexible day jailer lol

tranquil comet
charred drift
#

tbh

#

after this i might get bully

#

i.was fine witj gunner but

#

this is strong af

#

also with jailer you can infinite roleblock them

tranquil comet
#

its not unfair or broken tier tho, it still the constant one rock per day with 2 maximum kills

charred drift
#

not as much as astro

tranquil comet
#

its RSV give it a break, it shouldn't be compared to that telescope looking ass

charred drift
#

tarnation flummery

cloud cave
#

actually prob not

charred drift
#

from salems twitter

cloud cave
#

oh

charred drift
#

or X i would say

steady quiver
#

X 😭

dusky perch
#

I have x 😳

torpid sparrow
torpid sparrow
charred drift
#

shat 💀💀💀

marble remnant
#

teXting mayybe xd

visual bone
#

I loved their Xeet of that info

tranquil comet
glacial dirge
#

Maybe. Just maybe we'll learn about how the wws repopulate

glacial dirge
#

Whens the lore

#

I crave the lore

visual bone
#

The most lore we have is

#

People on the village are gaining powers to help fend off against the wolves

#

boom

#

Sad they didnt take the TOS route and gave each role a backstory atleast, would be cool

charred drift
#

can someone make judge jailer

#

gunner jailer is jailer,1 bullet
marksman jailer is warden,1 backfiring bullet to 2 players

visual bone
#

Every day choose to schedule someone for trial

At nigth you can lynch that player

signal crystal
arctic echo
#

fart wolf might get added according to a anonymous source (reputable)

willow zealot
#

Idc what people say I'm calling it fart wolf

steady quiver
#

me 2

calm nimbus
#

Imo lurker and fart woof will be added

#

Fart woof is good

#

Lurker is not that good of a role but it's the only other role that would make sense to add

#

Spy too op

#

Siren too weak and is a broken concept

steady quiver
#

honestly i think fart wolf is balanced and ready to get in game now

low pelican
steady quiver
#

it was toxic wolf but i love calling it fart wolf for reason 😭😭

charred drift
#

the fart is comimg

tranquil comet
#

I can tolerate fart since its better for setup manipulation, it being less destructive than berserk allows it to categorise with jww/sww etc and not have a massive potential to kill.
But mainly I don’t like it since it doesn’t add much new to the game, since ww protection piercing was obviously berserk speciality but it can be argued with arso and alch too

uncut marlin
#

Zzz

torpid sparrow
tropic blade
#

make it so that the tranced players stay tranced for longer and make it so that the siren can choose to trance more players instead of killing the tranced players

#

an experienced player will be able to maximize its profit

#

by taking high risk reward kills

#

thus becoming a real advanced role

#

one of the few real advanced roles even

jolly pilot
#

Same with Siren

#

Spy needs to be nerfed, Locksmith needs a lot of work, Anarchist needs so much idk if it would even be worth working out

#

Best bet for the other role IMO is FT, which'll PROBABLY be tested soon

#

How soon after testing was Bell-ringer added? I know it wasn't too long

dusky perch
#

its was next season?

dusky perch
#

also br should have bell sound not lm sound

steep hinge
#

Except maybe add some visual effects when you are locking someone
For example a door appears and if there's knocking at a door someone attacked you idk

#

I just want visuals in the game

dusky perch
jolly pilot
#

Coulda sworn BR was added halfway through a BP

#

Was it not?

#

It DEFINITELY didn't come with a BP, it's not on any of the BP changelogs

dusky perch
#

yeh true

jolly pilot
#

So if FT were to do well in testing, they could add it quickly, there's precedent for that

steep hinge
#

Keymaker w or l

tranquil comet
steep hinge
#

Bro it's good

tranquil comet
#

nah cope

steep hinge
#

Siren is so complicated

#

It should just have a complete different ability

tranquil comet
#

I mean if I was forced to pick a villager to add then I would pick Spy over LS, it can be broken but its also funny at the same time

jolly pilot
#

Nah, Siren just needs to bypass protection (Or just TG)

tranquil comet
#

like top tier role u can troll with in sandbox

#

lol

calm nimbus
steep hinge
#

Locksmith weak asf

jolly pilot
#

Siren is ALMOST there

steep hinge
#

Bro let me chat with the guy I just locked

#

I need a little chitchar

jolly pilot
tranquil comet
#

jailer?

steep hinge
#

Maybe add a tea mechanic

tranquil comet
#

or warden even

jolly pilot
#

Lmao

steep hinge
#

Yum

calm nimbus
steep hinge
#

And maybe have a bag of crisps

#

And then I get bombed by bomber

#

And then we maybe watch Mr Bean

calm nimbus
#

I hope siren never gets released this role is way too complicated and weird

steep hinge
#

Fr

calm nimbus
#

Needs big rework

steep hinge
#

Jk

calm nimbus
#

It has too many things it can do

steep hinge
#

Yea

jolly pilot
#

You entrance, then you kill entranced, or they die with you

steep hinge
#

Add Extortionist and Culinarian from the rt petition
Who's signing

jolly pilot
#

Not very complex

calm nimbus
#

I wish I knew there was a role contest cause I have a few good roles I would have loved to submit

jolly pilot
#

Musket Wolf could've been added if I thought of it

calm nimbus
#

Oh

steep hinge
#

The people who were late were crying bc they were late so they had to delay it for a 3 months

jolly pilot
#

One happened in 2023 though

calm nimbus
steep hinge
#

Lisa said probably yes but idk the daye

#

Probably this month I'm predicting

steep hinge
calm nimbus
jolly pilot
calm nimbus
#

Hypo's one is smaller scale

steep hinge
jolly pilot
#

Ah, gotcha

steep hinge
#

Some roles got added from the rt like jelly wolf

#

Astronomer

#

But not Culinarian or Extortionist wahhh

calm nimbus
jolly pilot
steep hinge
#

My advice is delete it from the forums or hide the channel when submitting it

#

Or take a screenshot of the whole thing

#

Make sure no one steals your idea

calm nimbus
steep hinge
#

Yea

#

8
Name: Big ear man
Short description:
Big ear can hear sleatthy u at night

Motivation:
hear everyone talking at night , for u to have fun :)

#

Big ear man is so good

#

Wish it got afded

calm nimbus
#

Goofy name

steep hinge
#

It was a real role which scored high in the places

steep hinge
#

Yeah

calm nimbus
#

Wdym by that

steep hinge
#

Ranking

calm nimbus
#

Like the staff rated each role?

steep hinge
#

300ish to 1

steep hinge
jolly pilot
#

Is there a reward for getting first or highly ranked?

calm nimbus
#

Oh

steep hinge
jolly pilot
#

Ooh, love to hear

steep hinge
#

Gtg

jolly pilot
#

Goodbye

regal nova
#

Thought's on hypo's RT roles?

calm nimbus
# regal nova

Biologist southern belle and journalist are good rest is kinda meh

#

Scout ww is ok too

regal nova
#

SB feels more like a mafia.gg role in all honesty

#

If i were basing this off of when these roles were finalized as t10 then I'd put glitch wolf at #1 journalist #2 & Policeman #3

#

Like yes it's BS

#

But so is sheriff if you think about it

#

Though

#

Actually

#

IG in hindsight policeman is something more acustomed to a site like mafia.gg-

#

Actually that's not fair they have everything under the sun

jolly pilot
# regal nova

Operator is alright, could be fun to play
Biologist is fun-sounding
I'm surprised we don't have a role like Dresser Wolf yet
Policeman, like Operator, could be fun to play as
Make-Up Artist kind of sucks
Hibernating Werewolf is pretty good, good for stopping Gunners and stopping deaths
Glitched Wolf is somewhat worthless now with Confusion Wolf, but I like it better than Confusion Wolf
Scout Werewolf is good, definitely deserves being and advanced Shadow WW
Southern Belle is pretty darn good
Journalist deserved to win, it's the best of the ten IMO

jolly pilot
#

Not even to gas you up, I just like it the best

regal nova
#

ik

#

this is what feed my ego

#

👁️ 👄 👁️

jolly pilot
#

Lmao

upbeat vault
#

what does the secret reward ,when an autumn calendar is giveaway, look like?

regal nova
#

no clue

tropic blade
#

I dont like em

charred drift
#

any update about the astro rework and bully buff

steady quiver
#

um i think astro rework are never

dusk hemlock
agile basin
#

Good question

#

Xddd thanks for the ping

torpid sparrow
agile basin
#

Indeed

#

I have every other language channel disabled, so they are like, next to each other

dusk hemlock
agile basin
#

I prefer reporting in dms, but I though I were there. Bad connection and those stuff. Let's just ignore that xd

dusky perch