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first time i thought icon is shopping bag
same
Tbh this actually makes sense as what judges ability couldve been
Naughty naughty
that's a kinda meh role ngl
IG but it's balanced crowd control
Which the game is kinda lacking presently
Plus we got
in all fairness
Old
was actually interesting, if it was in game I might not have forger
This is legacy?
astro needs a rework bc it doesn't feel like a witch advanced anymore bc of only able to block wolves
So Baker and grumpy grandma?
yeah
Why censor the number of talismans we all know it's between 800-1100 👀 each
Not ready for pings "omg ur talismans" lol
OMG UR TALISMANS 🙀 🙀
omg i wish i had that many talismans
😭😭
I should have been more specific; it's a fanmade role (screenshot from hypo's video)
Not really
It's witch but you auto-target ww (and YES i mean auto-target since both rk/ww attacking the person witch protects results in witch losing prot & the persin dying)
That's an objectuve improvement with exactly 1 exception:
Being the only protectir alive with RK alive
At which point you have to ask:
why?
its the same stuff, prevent killing
Really?
OH MY GOD GETTING TURNED INTO
OR
WONT MATTER NOW YAAAAAY
now we can get play as cursed/gr (?)
they were saying that they didnt do it because it'd cause teaming,guess they value the community's ideas
so,go on make dark mode free 🤭
rip "win one game as a solo killer" people
original role and converted role
scary i know
I mean its very cheap
If ur you do 6 weeks of quest, its yours!
yeah,2 weeks of grinding is pretty cheap but why make qol change paid
no it actually doesnt take a long time but
Isnt it270 gems
45gem/w
im on lvl 91 or smth bp so its prob not best to compare me with it
I don’t think we ever get cursed/gr lol
I never c them
Upvoted
considering the last update we might start getting them in challenges (they couldn’t appear before that)
preacher doesn't need a buff
(as a fellow golden preacher enjoyer(
I wonder if this fixes the win as ww when ur cursed turned
ofc
I hope you’re being ironic here
Cause tbh butcher/nwm is a good tool to teach players how to be good at protecting
more than 10 actually, because bandit can have infinite accomplices
most sane village in ohio
Kitten converting when death
Werewolves killing night 1
Bandits keep getting multiple accos
Yeah this village is in rumbles
spectacular
change aww for stub ww / ww sum
thats another ww
change wolf seer for sorc
thats like
a seer
berserk ww to deal the max amount of damage since we already have enough votes to win
quiet*
ITS THE SAME
it aint
What?
it aint the same
Its not the same *
you clearly know no english lmao
go back to #spanish if what you intend is to troll

no stubborn. too ez
How do you get the plunger hat? I saw it referenced in the Wolvesville bingo
its an EE that you get if you encounter a server restart while ingame
im not sure of they offer it anymore
Oh, okay. Thanks!
10?
4 wws, 1 rvoting, 1 bandit, at least 1 accomplice, 1 instigator, 1 vill recruit and 1 villager turned by kitten
count that as 1 recruit
seems fair
Ah true
Vs 5
I mean when you have
remain village maybe
(Those roles are dummy op)
The ammount of effort people put into that just for both of your recruits to be silent all game
So much work for so little payoff
1 insti 4 ww 1 voting 1 bandit 1 acco 1 recruit vill. We have 6 normal vills :))))
At 1st day
so much for people who wanted to nerf village
ngl cupid shouldnt be with bandit
I think I just played with you, you were rrv golden pacifist right ?
you either switch the setup placement of bandit and other RK or switch cursed and cupid placement. so cursed with bandit and cupid with everything else
I commend ur effort but sadly most people probably ain’t reading althat.
I agree
Im not a big fan of village team but that setup isnt balanced for village

All I'm seeing is a good argument for removing pasting again 😆
why tho
this instigator overestimates the capacity of my two brain cells
I can't remember all of that while also paying attention to the game
don't know if it's reportable for teaming/coding since they Are a team.
i just ask them to compliment the strongest ww
well, it is
doesnt matter if they are a team or not
emoji coding is the same, they are villager helping villager
still a form of coding and not allowed
pasting on web still broken tho 🤔
It's not broken, is disabled 👀

buff storm and i will be fine
adv role weaker than base 💀
shuffle for what when random kid made list already
voodoo the best
but devs cant make avatars and name dont shuffle ?
that will be op lol
with bully reveal role with one rock
but still waiting for ft test
NO
revealing is just an unfair mechanic in general
not that its op, but just terrible to play with
new #1052307374179885226: remove vigi
actually why not
gunner base and bully advanced
only loudmouth really has an excuse since it has to die first
they removed gunner base on purpose
so new players wouldn’t get gunner in their first game
it would have to be bully base or some other alternative
xd
they also don’t just remove roles either, fortune teller was removed but is getting a re work
although I haven’t seen any good vigi reworks
i prefer vigi in hh games
but vigi better than gunner for the throwing
no gunner is still the better thrower
vigi can only throw 1/2 as much as gunner can at best
ii think they are going to combine storm ability at one 
hide vote , shuffle and clear chat all in one button
I got shot random on day two by a level 12 vigi in sandbox as baker 😃
No chance to claim I got shot and he fled 😃
I wouldn’t mind a small rework for vigi, but I don’t have any ideas
I mean if Vigilante was really to neuter damage from game throwers, why not just make it so you can’t use the bullet without first using your reveal? the reveal obviously needs reworks still too and while it would instead increase random revealing, which I don’t think is a bad thing when village has no other info, its a good compromise to delay any malicious uses of the bullet and in order to use bullets early it would encourage players to upgrade vigilante to get the true experience
like I totally didn’t steal the idea of
having to use both abilities in the same night, or at least have to kill someone first before being able to new moon
Where can you get the emote holding the wov sign? ( Please help im desperate )
Devs really said 'let's release cww' and then didn't bring shaman into a single set-up 
Saying Wov in chat?
exists in a few setups also even outside of ranked and quick game rotates every week so it’ll appear at some point
Yeah
I saw somebody said "Hello wolvesville!" And got the emote earlier
qg had shaman in prev setup
yh but its luck-based
Mother fuck they replaced avg with lm in sandbox set up
really? oh
It’s always loudmouth though
Unless someone picks avenger or bell-ringer
Avenger is the advanced role of loudmouth ever since the card update
But some bozos were crying since they couldnt pick the base role or use talisman on avenger
Avenger was fixed
You can’t really force people to play as avenger when they’d rather play as loudmouth or bell-ringer. So people will complain about that
I see trolls tagging villagers as avg a lot
Tbh people would hate fixed Lm more
I love 
same
BUT I KEEP GETTING FIXED AVG
change setup when!
I wonder who made this role!
i made it gray if u wonder

OMG
finally its lm not avg
now i can be rrv all games
hope they fix seer app too
the role is my proudest creation instead✨
and made problems for assassin mode xD
No tie avg-acc 😭😭😭😭😭😭
loudmouth is pretty decent ngl
sacrifices themselves for reveal which is the most op thing fr
get avg card
Are servers down rn? 🤔
maybe? 👀
I dont know if you're joking cause you once seriously said fc is a good role 😭
holy duck
fc is good in its own way
fc is born for one job, countering shadow
yeah
in couple its not even that strong
When it was released shadow wasnt even in game lol
i know
i prefer paci
paci is stupidly more powerful than fc
i like easy roles
who thought it is a good idea to put them together in one role card
thats because youre nub
Hey I also like easy roles. I love playing astro paci etc, doesn't mean I dont want them to be nerfed tho lol
And tbh there's no real hard roles
i hope youre sarcastic
Hardest would be like bh and trapper
No I'm not
There's nothing wrong about liking something that's strong
for village, maybe
i wouldnt have understood it
hope my flee dont get 1 extra cuz of the server
@sinful heron
?
Keep it English here please
I know I know didn‘t plan on continuing speaking German
Still even the few messages sent must be in the right language
As said, I won‘t continue
holy hell
New X badge when 👀
bully buff when!
Check my aura😶
Are there any other changes you know of or can tell us Salem?
storm wolf buff ?
Ooh, you for real?
its nothing serious
putting shuffle and clear chat as combined ability is hardly a buff
Oh lmfao
Can you do both at once?
OH YES, my quick game and row war trolling just got double the fun
lets gooooooo
shuffle , clear chat and hide votes all together twice per game
Gotcha
That's not the worst tbh
so they combined every ability into an ability that does all of them, and then its 2 uses
buff bully now turning to be seer getting info at day
Maybe they can squash that shuffle voting bug
yeah ok the joke got pretty old already 💀
After, Idk, 6 months
i mean me being an avid storm user its gonna be great
I'm so sick of Storm Wolves saving their shuffle until voting, you KNOW when it's gonna happen too
It's either they shuffle immediately or wait until voting
Bully doesnt need a buff
ok i lie bully wont be seer
Any hints of an astro nerf?
nothing yet
Sadge
How do you get access to the dev servers btw
To the devs ask specific people or anyone can just join?
You could give feedback on how astro should be nerfed 
im not there
I made like 4 posts already
With different nerfs each
I‘m not here too actually
Wonder if there's some NDA-type stuff
Maybe, idk
Whats nda?
Non-disclosure agreement
by myself
Oh
Oh ok I understand
Legally binding someone to not be able to say some things by contract
Idk, maybe, maybe not
Or Salem just doesn't say, which in all honesty is more likely lol
Sorry for if Philipp sends a sniper to your house to take you out
Ok
dw he is friendly
Thoughts on the chances of the hypo RT roles getting into the game?
PROBABLY low, though some would be cool
I mean forger got in
And the size of this RT is much larger than the video that showcased forger
So did Violinist, which was in a similar boat
(On par with the server rt)
I'd love to see a few of em in-game, but we'll just have to wait and see
I hope they don't run out of ideas for roles, though
I mean considering where they've gone?
(Namely astro butcher storm ww)
Doubtful
I mean I hope it doesn't turn into a p2w version if mafia.gg either
Which has like every role concept under the sun
(No instant actions / crazy gamemodes tho, obviously)
Ima try it
Those are just evolutions (Not Storm Wolf) of their base role, though. There's only so many ways they could actually branch off and have an effect in-game
Ehhhhh
Butcher is a mutated doc yes
I say that, but Storm exists
Astro is closer to old butcher
I had a role called 'florist'
RSV protector
But then butcher happened
Oh that reminds me
Oh, congrats with Journalist btw
Eh, we've had a lot of roles recently go from Sandbox to full game without anything more than small tweaks
Oh yeah, absolutely
Just make ft a br advanced.
and make br a base role.
I am a br main and i'd be down with that. Br will actually be realized as an actual role in the game if it was a base role.
Care to elaborate on that last part of your message? 🤨 📷
people don't realize br is a role in this game
Ah
A lot of people still say "new role?" when i play br
Wouldn't you more than likely get an Avenger card too?
Sounds like a win-win
I rather want to turn it into br ft than lm avenger
I actually like br better than ave
Well, I meant your LM/BR card would be replaced with a LM/Avenger card, because you wouldn't need the card for BR anymore, and they won't give you an FT card
Which is likely how the community would vote that
no. I want the lm/br to be turned to br/ft
- this is probably how it will go as br owners will instantly have access to ft
i don't want lm/ave
That probably wouldn't happen sadly, since you put in the work to upgrade LM and not BR. It's like what happened with RL/Sheriff cards becoming RL/GL
???
That's kinda the opposite of the point of the upgrades
ahem... no?
9 times of 10 you get a card to get the advanced
this case is different
Did that not happen? Am I going crazy
Unless you're saying 2 perks > adv role?
Istg my RL/Sheriff card became RL/GL
Community votes
Indeed, which have precedent
it did, but that's because these roles already existed before
Because they wanted GL more thanvio
Yeah, probably
if ft releases as at the same time as br turning into base role, people will get ft
I can almost guarantee if someone likes BR more than lm/av, they'll pick ft over av
Honestly could see that happening
Depensing on the given rework
It did happen though the Corr/ED changed to Sk/Ed and not Corr/Illu
people have been long waiting for ft, and br would be great as base role for it.
The thing is, sometimes, you don't want to reveal a person's role to EVERYONE
imho br doesn't need to be a base role
making families based around mechanics rather than purpose would be a detriment tbh
hell nah I shouldn’t be forced to play LM and Avenger if I don’t want to (although if its a serious game then whatever I guess)
I like avenger better but I have both, I would be really pissed to have a duplicate
Imo they could just give us 10 random cards, one br card and one lm card so we can do whatever we want with them
based
Since #wov-chat became an among us discussion channel I will post my rrv rankings here. I love arguing so pls tell me if you think my opinion is stupid
31 Fc
30 Lm
29 Preacher
28 Baker
27 Br
26 Rl
25 Bg
24 Sheriff
23 Gl
22 Aura
21 Doc
20 Mayor
19 Ss
18 Vio
17 Bh
16 Avenger
15 Sa
14 Gg
13 Judge
12 Priest
11 Gambler
10 Tg
9 Paci
8 Flagger
7 Trapper
6 Mm
5 Witch
4 Butcher
3 Nwm
2 Forger
1 Astro
The fact that preacher is low means that a skill issue is involved in the creation of this list
in strength?
Yes
swap butcher paci tbh
wait nvm
kinda hard to rank them
feels like something more fit for a tierlist
Preacher is my third favorite role it's just not that good in terms of strenght
Yeah probably
based
when are more role icons being released?
i saw some really cool older icons
the ones right now kinda suck tbh
like anniversary stubborn ww
Pretty much next bp then halloween I think
"Older" lol
Because it's wrong
Indeed
I have golden Preacher
i only started really playing the game 3-4 months ago 😭
That's a-okay lmao
Just pulling your leg
pfft yeah
thanks lol
bro said preacher is not that good 💀
huge skill issue ngl
Cuz skill issues
What place should preacher be then
Over mayor? x3
preacher>>>>>mayor
thats a skill issue of yours to not be able to guess 1 players death just to be equal to mayor
You just have skill issues
huge skill issue
I usually end game with three votes, still mayor would be better since you can just reveal and prove instantly
preacher also reveals if you say it
You also see it if you vote lmao
(although one game a vigi didnt believe me because i claimed a defensive rrv and then i showed them my votes)
and we lost that ^
Yall assuming preacher is gonna guess night 1/2 lol
n2 you can guess dependin
It's still hard
Mayor < Baker < Preacher
Bakers mid right now
Ww arent always gonna kill confirmed players btw
their purpose is that
or the games gonna have confirmed players left
Wws who kill unchecked players are just dumb
If bersek ig you can guess seer but otherwise no
also you can get free votes from witch arso etc
I never played preacher in sb tbh so it might be different
then do play it
I played it in ranked
I just dont play a lot of sb and when I do play sb I join as hero
Tbh I just wished advanced roles were easier to obtain
In advanced are still many newbies. Not wonder how should they learn the game in qg if advanced players all play ranked. Thats why I only play qg and sb
Also I play ranked so this is based of ranked (probably doesnt change much but just mentionning)
I cant play qg without losing my mind lol
I‘m used to that
they are
Not really
yeah i definitely was not expecting a no from that
There was nothing I could say that was related to "tell that to my instant golden preacher"
you could've said that
That first line is very relateable 😂
I was even thinking of suggesting a general-2 but its locked behind a certain level (lv12 or lv15)
it really isn’t that difficult actually, especially in ranked. you can just have jailer/witch etc to shoot someone like usual and then guess the person they will shoot, boom one vote. mm says they will shoot but u know they will backfire, guess mm. confirmed RL claim? might as well guess RL too. any kill at night grants you extra votes, even kills that don’t come from ww or solo
someone emote "this^"
no emoji codes, u don’t need it
Fc being the 31 cannot be ordered by strenght
if rv in game u cant tell if its hh or jww so if u claim avg most ppl will say tag them if u avg and they lynch u then hh wins
They could also be killed by villagers and not be lynched
avg and lm is safe lynch they can tag who called them evil so not always will be killed by villager
btw what is the odd of anti talisman ? anyone knows
anti ww team + anti jww talisman and still got jww
I believe it decrease it to 1 "ball". I can ask if you want
Awesome luck
i guess so cuz when avg was fixed i had 10% avg and 1% other roles
you cant claim gl to be weaker than gg
i think talismans in game are broken
using anti talisman for all roles and all team expect village team i still get ww roles which shouldn't be i should get villager cuz village team talisman is maxed and i use anti ww team as well
maybe luck but still whats the chance to be ww over villager ?
4 out 16 and villager 10 out 16 and with village talisman should be higher
sounds like you weren't the only one
👀
anywho
in regards to the RT roles
i think policeman/operator have a decent chance
not both together but one of them getting into the game is feasible
(ideally the former)
i'd say after that, journalist is the most likely (duh)
SB is super customs-energy & would high-key fit better in mafia.gg
scout ww is super strong
Talisman premium should be like custom premium where it is cheaper for each talisman you own
But the custom premium offer clashes with things you can buy on your own, talisman premium doesn't
that would be cool
coul depend on your talisman chance per talisman
Gl doesnt do much since if gl saves a player they'll just die next night especially if gl is fixed
Nah
Judge is weaker than people think it is
Village votes almost every day which leads to judge not being able to use his ability often
If village doesnt vote
Like I said this list is based off ranked, idk if you play ranked or other gamemodes but in ranked voting is required almost every day if village doesnt want to lose so judge is only useful in the really late game
someone is really proud aye
i like southern belle a lot tho ngl
if it has a better hand
Guys, will
be advanced of
?
Well
'Duh' because it's literally 1st place
I honestly would have ranked it below glitch wolf as a judge
maybe make up artist
cww ruined it
i dont like makeup ngl
the only roles idd add are journalist and southern belle
lmk if i forgot any good ones
i'd pick one of police/oper over SB
tbh
SB feels more like a mafia.gg role personally
yea
police is the reverse
police is more closely aligned to det so i'd rather that (seems fun even if it's kinda rng)
no that's operator
whays police then
2 people 1 role
eh
theres something not appealing abt that role that i cant explain
For each maxed make sense
This face remind me of ww team talisman 😭
Lol yes
At that point is it even worth it with how much it costs to max a talisman
If 10 then u need 6k gold to max 1 talisman
That is 6,000x39=234,000
234k gold to get 1950gems discount
might aswell reduce 100 gems
Lol that will be for free
FREE???
however, having maxed out talisman shouldn't affect premium talismans. x70 talismans becomes x80, so the purchase is still received
Like I said, idk if that's worth it
Is Preacher good?
It has the potential to be twice as good as mayor. There is also the possibility that you remain with one vote the entire game. If you have fun guessing who you think will die during the night, you will like preacher.
I'm not lucky, but since I can't get a bully or judge's card, I'm thinking of doing the preacher...
Yeah it’s up to you really. I personally like all the mayor advanced roles.
Preacher can reveal himself to the village like the mayor? I rarely see any preachers in the game...
No preacher can’t reveal the same way a mayor can. That’s one thing to keep in mind
Okay, thank you

No judge just 
No, but you can tell the Village if you have extra votes and that'll confirm you
yes. one guess=mayor
and you still have 2 potential votes left
priest is good dont get mm or judge
mm needs time judge needs tie
mm generally better than priest to me
it can be good but get necessary roles first
since theres fixed vigi (or gunner) mm is much better than priest
It also has the potential of losing a 9v1 against a 
Where can i buy it ? Or it never be able to buy it anymore ?
its no longer available
it is
that cost for a visual "upgrade" is ridiculous
dark mode shouldnt even be paid in first place
fr bro i am literally going blind when i play wolvesville during the night
even using backgrounds is useless cuz the god damn chat is still white
I got it gifted by a random person😎
Double and give it to the next person
u can always report random reveal
nah it's not reportable unless there is a confirmed evil
yes its
vigi can random reveal only if shadow active without confirmed evil and after day3 otherwise its reportable
that's just a suggestion, it is not forbidden in the rules
all random is reportable anyway only priest and his advanced roles can random
random revealing follows the same logic as randomly killing before day 3
may not be explicitly stated in the rules but it is enforced
it's pretty different, I also thought it was reportable until I was told it was not
but hey there's the #questions channel for these questions
fastest reference I could find
damn misinformation got me
he means the ability itself has limited drawback even if staff made a rule to discourage it
I do think that the day 3 criteria should be included in the rules or in a new separate guidelines section
not every player is in the discord server
either way, a lot of people know this and will not be afraid to give the a-ok if someone asks for consent to reveal
Actually it is
That's because it's a guide rule, and it can vary depending in the match
depends a lot on each game and the circumstances
random is subjective but one thing is for sure, if the action was intended to give village a disadvantage then its game throwing
well, the rule is related to randoming, there are many circumstances that fall outside randoming
yeh but its helpful more than harm vs hh and fool mostly
rules say you shouldn't randomly shoot/reveal, not that you shouldn't do it in general
in this context, "randomly" shoot means shoot without any solid reason
can guardians ban you for rdm reveal after/at day 3👀
so if the shooter says why he shot, its not a random
which is what the rules say
we only havee one rule about random killing and its said there
how likely would you say you are able to reveal after day 3 for absolutely no reason
Quit saying day 3 like it's a rule
still there are special cases where you can random before day3 if for example 3 players left and one of them good then u can random between them but most games after day3 almost everyone good is confirmed and few left which are evils/rv
after all the case and what happened before the random will be viewed by guardians and take action not just cuz vigi revealed 4 without asking then its 100% ban
i think asking players that "kills and reveals to be thought out and based on either information or consent or both" could be considered a guideline on when to kill or reveal
Yeah use the word guideline
I think it wouldn't harm to include another one, although I see the point the staff makes in the discussion you've linked
what I disagree is guidelines being only available for players that are in the discord server
Me too
So many people think cupid is a villager because team priorities aren't mentioned in the app (something else I put feedback on, got rejected)
N3 technically
well that's why I stand by my point, it's not meant to be a rule but it should be present along other guidelines
that's my take at least
Well
Iirc some guardians just say 'if it goes well it's not throwing'
And this applies to certain rules (namely, fakes)
But random reveal is more ABT stopping an oppressive strat
For my take on it - I don't want people treating it like a hard limit, the "random day" can be earlier or later depending on many factors, such as what informers found, if protectors are alive, if rk is in the bandit tree etc
absolutely
IMO something like @agile basin said in #questions message would be great to have somewhere in game:
"After day 3, it is considered that it is an advanced enough moment of the match so you can reveal or shoot based on your own suspections"
it doesn't explicitly state it as a rule
just a guideline
This works fine for me, as I said, no hard limit and gets the point of information across
I feel like it isn't enough but hey this is the speculations channel, we're just rambling
What if they are acting "sus"
Like softly trying to defend a ww and late-voting when it gets voted and being silent for the mostly
And some other clues which regular players might not catch
I have watched/played hundreds of hours of ToS1-2 and i have 800+ hours of WWO playtime. I can generally deduct if a player is evil or not but people tell me i team/random 🗿
That's what the guide rules state. It is considered that after day 3, suspicious movements can start to be a clue to find evils, since there are less players alive and you can check if the behaviour is repeated (it's still better to ask for role of information first). You are not allowed to shoot based on your own suspicious in those first days since it can be due to douzen of causes.
also ridiculous that even guardians will accuse us of "randoming" when we def shoot reasonably with info 😂
They are guiderules, and it still depend of the match, but waiting til day 3 will improve the chances of doing a good choice and not just a random one because they misckicled or didnnot realised who they were voting
Well what if village just 💩s itself
All informers dead with no way to get them back on day2
people should learn to read and play the game by themselves instead of relying on info role
"bUt tH4tS nOT h0W yro'ue SuPPosEd t0 PlAaAAy"
mfw 30 day ban for pushing 2 obvious ww day 2
The worst thing is being banned because some idiot refuses to claim so I shoot him and he ends up being village
Thats why
and
are my favourate role
Or he claims rrv doc when doc has been dead for 3 days and he ends up being real
They are justified to random with no consequences
You can random kill as rk if you want
Wait you can get banned for THAT?
I did
Bro ban the doctor
Also apparently you can get banned for shooting a villager in jail even if they didnt claim
HUH
Bro i would contact the guardian manager myself if that happend
Not claiming at day and being shot by gunner: kinda understandable but not really
When I'm jailer I just stay silent and if the person doesnt claim I shoot them and 95% of the time it's an evil player, but I still get reported often for that
Not claiming in JAIL: its just the jailee's fault
Well that changes stuff
You see, wolvesville playerbase is a bunch of kids who cant even diffirenciate the difference between roasted peanuts and non-roasted peanuts
Strategy of staing silent as jailor is a great and advised strategy in town of salem (2) BUUT in wolvesville, you should ask for role
I think they're actually too used to relying on seer and cant function without it
@calm nimbus i got u bad news
Litteral NPCs fr
you cant hope much in people with negative average iq
In sandbox if you ask someone their role they dont claim
😦
bully is getting buff 💀
its day 1 ffs
WHAT
!?!?$€×¥*40:4
Nahhhhh
5 rocks?
NO WAY
SAUCSUACE
SUACEÇSUACE
worst
yeah ill take 5 rocks b8t
SAUCE OR I SHOOT
i mean ROCK
Bully got buffed because someone clowns dont know how to play it
JUST SY IT
PLEASE DONT GET ROLES
PLEASE
MAYBE 1 BRICK 2 ROCKS
1 INSTAKILL 2 ROCKS ILL TAKE IT
NOT AS BAD
@dusky perch @dusky perch
PLEASE
Lmao
YOURE SCARIN MW 😭
YOU ARE GIVING EVERYONE ANXIETY ATTACK TYOE FASTER 😭 😭 😭

so somehow i was trying things on game files and i got description for bully without how many rocks its just saying everyday you can throw rock at player and only can kill 2 players in game
💀 but now i cant find how i got that description but if its what i think the buff is unlimited rocks but only can kill 2 players per game
or like itll be day 3 and theyre like "I cant claim right now or ww will kill me"
WHAAAAA
So an infinite role blocker?
Instigated
will be crayziii
If that means jailer can come back in conj setup I'm all for it
seer bully would be better
They added escort lol
I mean
Tavern keeper
JUST SHUT ITTTTTT SALEM I HATE YOU 2929JR2NDWO3959394929493 WHYYY 😗😍😗😍😗😍☺😍☺
Granny and bully will be kinda similar then
Random uneeded bully buff but astro is still stronger than med 👍
😭 i was trying to see if bully really will be able to see roles
People just didnt know how to use it
You shouldnt use bully for kills
Two role blocks and 1 kill is the way to go I think
Yeah the stun is the game changer, but you need a whole lobby to cooperate
You can’t post it… since it’s not official :0
"GUYS I ROCKED THE SHADOW PLEASE GO FOR THE ALPHA"
And who knows maybe they can changelaterly 👀
did i say its getting a buff? 🤨
"NO DONT, STOP THEY ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO KILL"
If salem says it it's official
Not always he can be wrong it’s not « Salem’s speculation » xD
im pretty sure we are allowed to say "i like a role please dont change it"
Thats what this channel is all about i think
They will tell you to elaborate and kinda useless to do that welp
Salem has access to the servers where they test the new things for the next update lol
will yes but for server "salem" isnt admin so new things wont appear for him
I have seen many times that this channel has affected the main game
So it seems bully buff is planned
pretty sure they dont call "i love x" useless
its could be for testing and if didnt work then bully back to normal dw yet
Give astro 0 new moon better
No
Since astro is an astronome
And stars co-relate to jupiter in his icon
It should have 80 moons just like jupiter 😍 😍
but the solo killer is a sagittarius so it blocks him too!!!!😍😍
make astro block all kills again
make astro block everyone
Make astro crash the entire lobby
give astro an ability that insta vill wins when used
Astro rework :
Once per game,you can predict an eclipse. If no villager dies within 2 days,the game will end in a village win.
frfr
nah
Silence ninja
who the hell r u lol
You are a paleto boy
wtf
no?
I have questions to the easter eggs. What items are they? I don‘t want to know where to find them. I only want to know what they look like.


thats a bit of a broad question.. they come in many different variations
a lot of them sadly are related to purchases though
not many will be discovered as a fun little accident
I cannot imagine a scenario where someone gets the hh ee by coincidance
A list would be nice
I‘m hunting them down lmao xD
I'll take it, W buff
throwers will have the best time of their life
it will basically be like trickster
n1 taunt 1 n2 taunt 2
d1 rock 1 d2 rock 2 ask role kill one
you can compare it that way, its also a more flexible day jailer lol
i was gonna get bully to play row wars, now i REALLY want bully lol
tbh
after this i might get bully
i.was fine witj gunner but
this is strong af
also with jailer you can infinite roleblock them
its not unfair or broken tier tho, it still the constant one rock per day with 2 maximum kills
not as much as astro
its RSV give it a break, it shouldn't be compared to that telescope looking ass
from salems twitter
oh
or X i would say
X 😭
I have x 😳
Salem shat that information
shat 💀💀💀
teXting mayybe xd
I loved their Xeet of that info
why are you mad its true 💀 its just a parody bro chill
Maybe. Just maybe we'll learn about how the wws repopulate
lore update
The most lore we have is
People on the village are gaining powers to help fend off against the wolves
boom
Sad they didnt take the TOS route and gave each role a backstory atleast, would be cool
can someone make judge jailer
gunner jailer is jailer,1 bullet
marksman jailer is warden,1 backfiring bullet to 2 players
thats no sense for me
fart wolf might get added according to a anonymous source (reputable)
me 2
Imo lurker and fart woof will be added
Fart woof is good
Lurker is not that good of a role but it's the only other role that would make sense to add
Spy too op
Siren too weak and is a broken concept
honestly i think fart wolf is balanced and ready to get in game now
Wait fart wolf wasn’t a joke? 
it was toxic wolf but i love calling it fart wolf for reason 😭😭
that why its coming
the fart is comimg
I can tolerate fart since its better for setup manipulation, it being less destructive than berserk allows it to categorise with jww/sww etc and not have a massive potential to kill.
But mainly I don’t like it since it doesn’t add much new to the game, since ww protection piercing was obviously berserk speciality but it can be argued with arso and alch too
Zzz
Instead of THE entranced players. Game should pick randomly amongst the alive players. Number of picks is determined by how many entranced players are alive
make it so that the tranced players stay tranced for longer and make it so that the siren can choose to trance more players instead of killing the tranced players
an experienced player will be able to maximize its profit
by taking high risk reward kills
thus becoming a real advanced role
one of the few real advanced roles even
Lurker needs some tweaks, I don't see Lurker being added yet. It easily could come with BP 33 though
Same with Siren
Spy needs to be nerfed, Locksmith needs a lot of work, Anarchist needs so much idk if it would even be worth working out
Best bet for the other role IMO is FT, which'll PROBABLY be tested soon
How soon after testing was Bell-ringer added? I know it wasn't too long
its was next season?
Locksmith need 0 work
also br should have bell sound not lm sound
Except maybe add some visual effects when you are locking someone
For example a door appears and if there's knocking at a door someone attacked you idk
I just want visuals in the game
as adv of bg yes
replace limited protection with unlimited but 1day dely is good
Coulda sworn BR was added halfway through a BP
Was it not?
It DEFINITELY didn't come with a BP, it's not on any of the BP changelogs
yeh true
So if FT were to do well in testing, they could add it quickly, there's precedent for that
Keymaker w or l
L tbh
Bro it's good
nah cope
Thats even worse wtf
I mean if I was forced to pick a villager to add then I would pick Spy over LS, it can be broken but its also funny at the same time
Nah, Siren just needs to bypass protection (Or just TG)
Locksmith is currently very op
Locksmith weak asf
Siren is ALMOST there
Just wrong
have u ever heard of uh
jailer?
Maybe add a tea mechanic
or warden even
Lmao
Provable protector = op
And maybe have a bag of crisps
And then I get bombed by bomber
And then we maybe watch Mr Bean
I hope siren never gets released this role is way too complicated and weird
Fr
Needs big rework
Jk
It really isn't lmao
It has too many things it can do
Yea
You entrance, then you kill entranced, or they die with you
Add Extortionist and Culinarian from the rt petition
Who's signing
Not very complex
I wish I knew there was a role contest cause I have a few good roles I would have loved to submit
It happened in 2022 or 2021
Musket Wolf could've been added if I thought of it
Oh
The people who were late were crying bc they were late so they had to delay it for a 3 months
One happened in 2023 though
Will there be another one?
By hypostein?
Fr?
I believe so
Hypo's one is smaller scale
This one is by the actual staff
Ah, gotcha
Some roles got added from the rt like jelly wolf
Astronomer
But not Culinarian or Extortionist wahhh
I need to find the person who made astronomer
I should submit #1130381484390359092 message when it happens
My advice is delete it from the forums or hide the channel when submitting it
Or take a screenshot of the whole thing
Make sure no one steals your idea
#rt-roles-2022
I love Big ear man
The astronomer in #rt-roles-2022 is so much better than current astro
Yea
8
Name: Big ear man
Short description:
Big ear can hear sleatthy u at night
Motivation:
hear everyone talking at night , for u to have fun :)
Big ear man is so good
Wish it got afded
Goofy name
It was a real role which scored high in the places
Places?
Yeah
Wdym by that
Ranking
Like the staff rated each role?
300ish to 1
Nah we all voted on roles
Is there a reward for getting first or highly ranked?
Oh
Gems, coins and cards or outfits 🤑
Ooh, love to hear
Gtg
Goodbye
Biologist southern belle and journalist are good rest is kinda meh
Scout ww is ok too
SB feels more like a mafia.gg role in all honesty
If i were basing this off of when these roles were finalized as t10 then I'd put glitch wolf at #1 journalist #2 & Policeman #3
Like yes it's BS
But so is sheriff if you think about it
Though
Actually
IG in hindsight policeman is something more acustomed to a site like mafia.gg-
Actually that's not fair they have everything under the sun
Operator is alright, could be fun to play
Biologist is fun-sounding
I'm surprised we don't have a role like Dresser Wolf yet
Policeman, like Operator, could be fun to play as
Make-Up Artist kind of sucks
Hibernating Werewolf is pretty good, good for stopping Gunners and stopping deaths
Glitched Wolf is somewhat worthless now with Confusion Wolf, but I like it better than Confusion Wolf
Scout Werewolf is good, definitely deserves being and advanced Shadow WW
Southern Belle is pretty darn good
Journalist deserved to win, it's the best of the ten IMO
keep gassing me up gamer
Not even to gas you up, I just like it the best
Lmao
what does the secret reward ,when an autumn calendar is giveaway, look like?
no clue
I dont like em
any update about the astro rework and bully buff
um i think astro rework are never
but what does it have to do with #speculations lol
I think they tried to navigate to #spanish but accidentally selected #speculations
Both start with SP yk
Indeed
I have every other language channel disabled, so they are like, next to each other
but shouldnt it be sent to #discord-reporting-old-2025 tho
I prefer reporting in dms, but I though I were there. Bad connection and those stuff. Let's just ignore that xd
i got this role idea while taking shower give feedback
https://discord.com/channels/414179354814185498/1137443566629683223
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