#EX5 Dungeon

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ocean gate
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and I really don't want to donate them to Karin

manic spire
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Well, she'll have a UE in... 7 months?

ocean gate
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I have way too many of her when I just pulled her event that time

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not that I don't mind having her... but I pulled her a bit too much and well

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here we are now

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anyway, this topic isn't about the dungeon, so thanks again! I'll be heading to ex6 tomorrow (later for me since it's already monday...)

manic spire
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Same KyaruOWO

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I should sleep
Have a good one
And grats!

ocean gate
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thanks one more time, night for now SagiriSleeping

ember perch
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lmao how should i even start this goblin mage lol, i feel like i am missing so many meta characters

fair fulcrum
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Just post your girls like this
Kaede will take a look and help you KyoukaSus ๐Ÿ‘

manic spire
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Yeah, I can make you teams

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ex5 and 6 you can't assume everyone has every unit
So building teams individually is best

ember perch
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does this work?

ember perch
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i was trying to follow the other one LOL

fair fulcrum
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Gl hf kaede
(Btw missing a lot of UEs laby,sfyuni, prei... )

still epoch
ember perch
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i guess ill have to wait to get this done lool

manic spire
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humuhumu

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I can still try
2 things

  1. do you know about unit sync?
  2. do you have any ue orbs left to use?
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I see a bunch of units not ranked up so just wanna ask

I will make you some teams regardless and you can try
If it doesn't work out I'll tell you what to work on

ember perch
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unit sync to my understanding is the multi enhance right

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i can rank up to 32, but no orbs left

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i think

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no UE spheres tho just grow spheres

manic spire
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Alright, good to know
Any unit you use is gonna wanna be synced up to 32
I'll keep in mind you don't have Laby or PRei UE
If I mention another unit that you don't have a ue for, lemme know

For now here is a breakdown of mechanics while I cook

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Here are the boss mechanics
First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

ember perch
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wait this laby?

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os is this ?

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lool

manic spire
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Yes
Nyatsu mentioned she doesn't have ue, yah?

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Red is Laby

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Rei is the 2nd one

ember perch
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oh right yeah lool

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o yeah both dont lool

manic spire
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This might be interesting TomoThonk

manic spire
# ember perch

Any more units beyond this page that aren't just 2 and 1 stars?

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You might have some hidden gems

ember perch
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let me take some photos

manic spire
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Oh, ok
You do have some good ones in here
I feel like I know the answer, but do any of the following have UEs?
Vampy
Hatsune/Shiori duo
CMaho

ember perch
manic spire
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ok I'll start cooking for you
This is gonna take more teams than usual because of the lack of UE's, but I think it's still doable

ember perch
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i gotta head out, ill read it once i get back dont worry

manic spire
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Mode 1 Team 1
Anemone, Eris, Ames, CMaho,Maho

Mode 1 Team 2
Muimi, CKokkoro, WMatsuri, TTInori, PHiyori

Mode 2 Team 1
Hatsune/Shiori, Monika, XJun, Rino, PKokkoro

Mode 2 Team 2
SNozomi, SChika, PPeco, CRima, CMakoto

Mode 2 Team 3
Neneka, Yukari, SKyouka, OYuki, Homare

Mode 3Team 1
WDjeeta, NKuuka, Misora, Eris (Borrow), PKyaru

Mode 3 Team 2
SNea, Nera, Akino/Saren, Eriko, Christina

Not gonna lie
This is one of the harder boxes I've built for
And because of that we're trying something different

Usually you wanna save Ames/Eris for mode 3 to defend with, but you have a very good misora team (assuming you can borrow an Eris) so I think IF you can get to mode 3 you will be ok
The issue is your multi target
EX5 needs a lot of Multi target in mode 1 and 2
And without Laby UE, PRei UE, Croce, CTamaki, etc. it's abit rough

So gonna try Amenone team 1 with all the buffers to turbo her
This should clear all the targets in mode 1
Team 2 is then there to clean up mode 1

For mode 2 we've done some creative building
I did the best with what you have but this is definitely the part where if it's gonna fail, it'll fail here

Once you clear mode 2 it should be fairly smooth with the Misora team

If this fails, my notes for the future are

  1. Get UEs for Hatsune/Shiori, PRei, Labyrista
  2. 6* Shiori, Christina, Tomo (Tomo is basically only good here, but well she IS good here)
ember perch
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Okay sounds good

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will try it now

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holy smokes I mode cleared in 1 team @manic spire LOL

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i couldnt borrow sadly cause my friends are all at higher level limit 323

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mode 2 is the struggle tho

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it got really close

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tried to put the spare but i guess that didnt work AkinoLaugh

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Aight just slipped in to mode 3 with this one

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oooh so close bossi slike 75% hp left ๐Ÿคฃ

acoustic marlin
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||problem is you used wrong team on wrong mode, it isnt optimal.||
||generally nowadays anemone is superior as an entry point at the start of mode 2, it should kill mode 2 boss 1 then around 60-80% of boss 2 (mage), lower lv clears always use Luce cancel to get a huge increase in damage here||
||all other mt should stack on mode 1 and reduce it to until its low HP and only 1 tile left, which you would then you use sack team to clean up to enter mode 2||
||you should have a DPS team that can be used to clean mode 2 boss 2 and deal some damage to mode 3, with yukari usually since boss 2 deals a lot of damage, as shown of yukari's usage in kaede's Mode 2 Team 3, tho that team may not be optimal||
||after that you should have several cores team to deal damage on mode 3, saving flight units (alter maidens) for boss enrage or non-squishy units if you dont have AM||

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here's a clear i made for someone else around your level if anyone wants look at current-day more optimized examples:

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EX gear is important. using incorrect EX gear can potentially lose you ~50% damage KyoukaSus

still epoch
manic spire
ember perch
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@manic spire

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okay i got 300 for the UE Sphere

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connet coin thingys

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should i put it on Labyista first?

still epoch
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no

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Connect coins are for MP ONLY

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not for spheres

ember perch
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oh lol

fair fulcrum
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yeah never buy that

ember perch
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okay

fair fulcrum
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new luna should be in a few days

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unless raid replaces it

still epoch
fair fulcrum
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actually true

still epoch
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it would save lives

ember perch
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okay i got the MP instead

manic spire
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Yeah, just buy the mp

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I'm just gonne make you a couple more team
I think you can do it with your box as is tbh

ember perch
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@manic spire if it makes it easier now i UE'd Laby

manic spire
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That does help

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Mode 1 Team 1
Hatsune/Shiori, Laby, XJun, PRei, PKokkoro

IF ALL TARGETS ARE NOT BROKEN DO NOT USE NEXT TEAM, PING ME

Mode 1 Team 2
Muimi, CKokkoro, WMatsuri, TTInori, PHiyori

Mode 2 Team 1
Anemone, Eris, Ames, CMaho,Maho

Mode 2 Team 2
SNozomi, SChika, PPeco, CRima, CMakoto

IF MODE 2 ISN'T CLEAR DO NOT USE NEXT TEAM, PING ME

Mode 3 Team 1
WDjeeta, NKuuka, Misora, Eris (Borrow), PKyaru

Mode 3 Team 2
SNea, Nera, Akino/Saren, Eriko, Christina

Mode 3 Team 3
Neneka, Yukari, SKyouka, OYuki, Homare

With Laby's UE we're gonna try Anemone mode 2

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Ok, so
Instead of a whole new team gonna rearrange

ember perch
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ill have to run it tomorrow i just used the attempt LUL for the quick daily

manic spire
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No worries

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You lost A LOT of damage yesterday using Misora on mode 2
So I think if you rearrange and if something goes wrong ping me or ask in here it will go smoother

ember perch
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@manic spire okay i also got UE on Rei

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and hatsune shirori

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ill work on 6 staring her next hopefully that should be enough lol

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got 3 hours before the dungeon reset so ill go through it

cobalt radish
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she does want higher ue but can cope with lower sometimes probably fine outside dz

cobalt radish
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anw good luck and kaede can prob take over from here

ember perch
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this is how its going so far

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@manic spire

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should i submit?

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might bit missing just a bit

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i submitted lool

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ill wait for you first before i keep going

manic spire
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No, that's great

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That's as expected
Keep going KyaruThumb

manic spire
ember perch
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okay

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on to next team

manic spire
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This should kill mode 1
And then onto mode 2~

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I'll keep an eye here though in case you have issues

ember perch
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alright starting mode 2

manic spire
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looks good

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now for anemone

ember perch
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starting the next one

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and then just a quick lunch break

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mode cleared now to mode 3

manic spire
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yeah, this is looking much better KyaruThumb

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Do the Misora team next
If you can't borrow an Eris lemme know and we can adjust

ember perch
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@manic spire yeah i cant borrow

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level limit

manic spire
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kk, 1 sec

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You'll lose some damage from lack of element bonus
But use OYuki instead of Eris

ember perch
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okay

manic spire
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The survivibility will be lower too, but hopefully not too low

ember perch
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lets begin KyaruOWO

manic spire
ember perch
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oh no lool

manic spire
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yeah, i was afraid of that
back out

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wait...

ember perch
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couldnt back out

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in time lol

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forgot to pause

manic spire
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welp

ember perch
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LUL

manic spire
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Keep trying with the other teams

ember perch
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okie

manic spire
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might be tight now though
But you have some leftovers

ember perch
manic spire
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You still have Monika unused, right?
Use her inplace of OYuki for team 3

ember perch
manic spire
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Oh yah, you got this

ember perch
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normal homare?

manic spire
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oh, you have SHomare now

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But yah, regular

ember perch
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okie

manic spire
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Fingers crossed Yukari is enough healing

ember perch
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HOLD LOOL

manic spire
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yeah ok, back out RafiXD

ember perch
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back out?

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i clicked BACK

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KEKW

manic spire
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enrage is fun

fair fulcrum
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does ex5 have rage mode

ember perch
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LUL

fair fulcrum
ember perch
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whoops

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haha

manic spire
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Well, still salvageable

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1 sec

ember perch
manic spire
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Riri is a good start for Flight

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healing is gona be the issue

ember perch
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heres some random support to borrow

manic spire
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Riri
WTamaki
LL Trio
Nozomi (Or ruka is she dies)
and... gosh not many healers left

ember perch
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this one?

manic spire
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only 2 stars TomoThonk

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but yes

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can still try her

ember perch
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whats LL trio?

manic spire
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That random support might actually matter

ember perch
manic spire
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misogi/Kyouka/Mimi

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It's the trio unit

ember perch
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LOL this one?

manic spire
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ye

ember perch
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okay last slot

manic spire
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oh, I see an SSuzume I missed before

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not her, but for next team, let's see
last slot...

ember perch
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i got lots of new characters since then

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well 2

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LUL shomare and suzume that debuffer

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i saw people using it so i levled her up

manic spire
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You can definitely finish this, but seeing the lack of healers I think it's gonna be a dps turbo build

manic spire
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I don't think any of the healers you have left are gonna keep this team alive

ember perch
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okay lol

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chucking her in lol

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KyaruOWO lets begin

manic spire
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wait, she's magic
I forgot lol

ember perch
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ill remember to click quit this time

manic spire
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Yeahback out

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This is expected though

ember perch
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aight characters still here dont worry HatsuneXD

manic spire
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Try this instead

NIo
SSuzu
AYori
Ranpha
SHomare

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This is a tp drain team that, well, hopefully will do some before sying

ember perch
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Nlo is?

manic spire
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Io

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Noir

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Sorry, abbreviations

manic spire
ember perch
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i think i bulit this wrong

manic spire
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get rid of Lou

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slot 2

ember perch
manic spire
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You want Angel Yori

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There you go

ember perch
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okie sounds good

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ill run it

manic spire
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If it even does 7 mil another team can finish

ember perch
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submit?

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looks like around 9 mil left

manic spire
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Yabai
Yeah, it might be at that point

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Just submit and can throw bodies AkinoLaugh
Sorry this kinda fell apart

ember perch
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LUL all good

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ill rebuild again HatsuneXD

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submitted

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theres still a yukari support

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idk if that would help in anyway lool

manic spire
manic spire
ember perch
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haha okay

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this right?

manic spire
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yah

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Send it

ember perch
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okay sending

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submit?

manic spire
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oof

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Yeah~
Probably

ember perch
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lol okay sending

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KyaruXD so close

manic spire
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PShinobu
CYukari
Nozomi
School Fetival Chloe
Time Travel Kaya

Kinda just in throw bodies mode

ember perch
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LUL okay

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this right?

manic spire
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ye

ember perch
manic spire
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welp RafiXD

ember perch
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i guess tomorrow?

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just throw some random units at it?

manic spire
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I legit think you have it
But yeah, sometimes the synergy breaks down at the end

ember perch
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alright next set?

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time to pull out characters from the whole stash

fair fulcrum
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eh just try with you bodies?

manic spire
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pretty much as Nyatsu says

ember perch
manic spire
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Those with burst damage

fair fulcrum
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eh rage mode yeah

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something like that

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after that peco greaanne stMisaki.. idk

manic spire
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Peco, Kaya, WChieru, some more dps

ember perch
fair fulcrum
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makoto pyui/aKarin maybe

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just try the dmg

ember perch
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lol something like this lol

fair fulcrum
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yeah just try what it does

ember perch
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should i send it Kaede?

manic spire
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So the fun thing with EX5 is it enrages
So the idea was to try to kill with that fire team and Misora team

When that doesnt work, it often devolves into throw bodies, but it does work

manic spire
ember perch
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okay

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sending

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oh whoops i couldnt even pause how fast it ended

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LOL

fair fulcrum
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maybe dont start on 4x speed

ember perch
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RafiXD fair

fair fulcrum
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anyway. do pudding anneGrea stageMisaki aKarin c.Yuki maybe.

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but dont let it die

manic spire
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yea
Pudding might be the savior here KyaruOWO

ember perch
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okay sending

fair fulcrum
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turn off 4x speed

manic spire
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SSaren would be great about now
I didn't suggest her as a borrow because a level 80 SSaren would hardly fill tp

ember perch
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is it unclick the set?

fair fulcrum
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not the set, leave set on

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the speed

manic spire
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no, click set to set everyone
Just 1x speed

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Bottom right
1 arrow

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not 3

ember perch
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this button right

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okay

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kinda low

fair fulcrum
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pudding will live

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so just let it run carefully

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unless they all die

ember perch
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okay ill keep going

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okay its dead

manic spire
fair fulcrum
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boss or team

ember perch
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the boss lol

fair fulcrum
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pudding clutch

ember perch
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ChloeComfy pudding indeed

manic spire
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there we go
I think running on 4x was the big mistake for a few of those KyaruOWO
Congrats

ember perch
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thank you all

manic spire
ember perch
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so whats the future notes

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to prepare for EX6

fair fulcrum
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rank up your girls, farm shards for ues
use anemone

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KyoukaSus ๐Ÿ‘

manic spire
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Get more 6*

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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@dense nimbus lets just move here

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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(ofc refined) i just dont wanna do that just to show you

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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yes yes

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the rest of the girls are the same

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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same as anemone

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laby same as prei but this one

still epoch
dense nimbus
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i have to manual equip every battle

fair fulcrum
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if you are doing someting special like dungeon. then yes

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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?

dense nimbus
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Anemone ate all those daggers

fair fulcrum
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well tamaki armor is wrong

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use the same as anemone

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and if you have no dagger, just use the pink one

cobalt radish
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can buy gold ex if u need KyoukaSus

fair fulcrum
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or that. tho i doubt he even has the coins for that

dense nimbus
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i have never bothered with this shop

acoustic marlin
dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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i mean tamaki dagger wont change much

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but buy some robes

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no need to refine blue robes btw

acoustic marlin
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yeah

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dont combine or refine leather armors

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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well he didnt listen

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but yeah just go ahead and hit

dense nimbus
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you told me too late i already combine then by the time you 2 told me not to do it

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smh so slow

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or i am going to assume maxed = better

fair fulcrum
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well i said it 10sec later but eh

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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same as prei

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or just use the one above

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doesnt really matter in this situation

dense nimbus
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croche cannot wear blue armor

acoustic marlin
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just use the other blue armor then

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at the bottom

fair fulcrum
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huh that can sell out?

acoustic marlin
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the one that says 5% phys and 2% crit

acoustic marlin
fair fulcrum
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wtf

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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but yeah use the other blue one then

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maybe switch with ctama

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but you should clear anyway now

dense nimbus
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single digits to 1pan it

acoustic marlin
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actually need to be a bit careful

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no nefi, no chris

dense nimbus
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chris is single target wdym

acoustic marlin
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yeah ur box

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for later

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teams u have left is like
anemone main
light phys
dark mages
mixed mages
am for enrage + tank

dense nimbus
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Amethderp how many times do i have to post it till people commit it to memory

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#1099592425753812994 message

acoustic marlin
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they'll never remember ur box

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bcz its ur box

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ppl only memorize/know their own box

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or acc they play on often

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replacement for neneka and eris

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2nd anemone team

dense nimbus
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aaaah, the boss becomes single target mid combat??

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now it make sense

acoustic marlin
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wait why didnt you use CTama

acoustic marlin
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the boss has tiles

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when you kill them they disappear

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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huh

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i said swith ex gear with croco

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not switch ctama out

dense nimbus
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i though you told me to switch ctama out

acoustic marlin
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ur clan has anemone up for lend right?

dense nimbus
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phase 2 is going smoothly

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i think i can 2pan it

acoustic marlin
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eh

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i wouldnt use that team tbf

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i would use another anemone team and it basically kills 1st boss + 80%+ of 2nd boss

dense nimbus
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i have cooked AkinoLaugh

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@acoustic marlin@fair fulcrum@manic spireI DID IT!!!! KyaruNerd

dense nimbus
fair fulcrum
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let him cook

acoustic marlin
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anw he cleared it

dense nimbus
acoustic marlin
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usually its better

dense nimbus
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ReiThinking she is one of those that is better on auto? huh

acoustic marlin
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yes

dense nimbus
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i wanpan mode 1
wanpan mode 2
and 2pan mode 3

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AnnaWant whats even crazier i my water units cleared it

round night
manic spire
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And any borrows available?

round night
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252 no borrows avail

manic spire
manic spire
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Mode 1 Team 1
PRei
CMaho
CTamaki
Labyrista
Hatsune/Shiori
-Leave CMaho unset but turn auto on, you shouldn't need a healer because of dps heal, but if someone dies back out and try again replacing Tamaki or Hatsu/Shio with a healer

Mode 1 Team 2
Muimi 6
WMatsuri
PTInori
Djeeta
Monika
-The end of mode 1 (after all targets break) will not attack if dps is high enough, so this is a straight dps team to clear the mode

Mode 2 Team 1
NYSheffy
PKokko
Anemone
SFYuni
Karin
-You could go full anemone here, but better to save the other buffers for mode 3, goal is to kill the front boss

Mode 2 Team 2
SChika
PSheffy
WChloe
PPeco
SSaren
-Chika is here to barrier against the mage's aoe nuke, goal is to kill the mage

Mode 3 team 1
Eris
PKyaru
SHomare
NKuuka
Homare
-Just chunk the boss

Mode 3 team 2
Ames
OYuki
Neneka
SNeneka
Ranpha
-This should kill, tank shouldn't be needed with Ames, but if one is use Kururu

If you end up needing a 3rd team for mode 2 or 3 I would do something like
Nera
SNea
Akino/Saren
Christina
AHiyori

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Good luck~

round night
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aight thank you! I'll make sure to try this tom since im bout to sleep

round night
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manage to clear it

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might as well ask if dungeon 6 will be possible?

manic spire
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Congrats

summer harness
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@manic spire kaede chan, need help ex5 clear

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I'm level 215 teehee

manic spire
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I can help
But not until after reset

summer harness
manic spire
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Hey there
Sorry
Yesterday was rough
I'm making you teams now reipout

summer harness
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teehee

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I also got wyuni now

fair fulcrum
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Male searching 23y

manic spire
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Mode 1 Team 1
Hatsune/Shiori
Labyrista
Croce
CMaho
SMimi
(Shouldn't need a healer, but at your level you might. Back out if someone dies and ping me)

(Every target should be broken before you use this team)
Mode 1 Team 2
Muimi
WMatsuri
CMonika
PShinobu
CYukari (Can honestly be any dps not in the other teams)

(Boss won't attack if DPS is good enough so all attack)

Mode 2 Team 3
Anemone
CTamaki
PKokko
Ames
WYuni
(Should kill front goblin or get really close)

(Use this to kill front Goblin, if already dead can skip this team)
Mode 2 Team 4
Shiori
RShiori
Nera
SRem (I forget SRem's position, this might be bad, need to check. Sub in XSaren in an emergency)
A healer (I'm sure I'll think of a good one soon) KyaruOWO

(To kill mage)
Mode 2 Team 5
WYuni
PSheffy
Yukari
PPeco
LMuimi

(Only use this once on mode 3)
Mode 3 Team 6
Kururu
SNeneka
SAmes
Neneka
Lairael
(This team might be a liiiitle fragile. If it is feel free to ping me. Hard to know just how tough characters will be at this level)

(This team will hopefully kill)
Mode 3 Team 7
NKuuka
SEchidna
Eris
PKyaru
SHomare

(If another team is needed)
Riri
Quria
CoEriko
Eris (If you can borrow a 2nd one)
XJun

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Here you go
Not my best work, but should be ok I think

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Also, where's your Yui?
I see her nowhere?

summer harness
summer harness
manic spire
summer harness
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I prolly didn't send lower not at all built units

manic spire
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ok, no worries

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should be fine anyways

summer harness
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let's zoo this now

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let's zoo this now

summer harness
manic spire
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That's fine

summer harness
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can't I replace her with someone

manic spire
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When does she die?

summer harness
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at about after chonking 60% of mode 1

manic spire
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So she's the one turboing Croce's tp
Did you give her (and them all) ex gears?

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If she still dies I'll find you a sub

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If you want you can try SSaren in place of CMaho and see how that does

summer harness
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Ezpz

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EzpzI changed cmaho to xrino

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mode 1 clear with 1st team

manic spire
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There you go

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Jump to team 3

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Maybe I overcooked for your box

summer harness
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teehee

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the ms is helping a lot too

manic spire
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ms?

summer harness
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fancy and more apt name for mp nodes

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mode 2 is at to kill goblin?

manic spire
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ah, yah

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yeah

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mode 2 is the mode with the 3 big gobbos

summer harness
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so anemone

manic spire
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To get to mode 3 have to kill the front 2

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yep, the mone team

summer harness
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ok 1 teamed mode2 almost

manic spire
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Yeah~
I overcooked

summer harness
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5% hp left on mage goblin

manic spire
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Jump to team 5

summer harness
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if I used standard anemone with nnk, it'd prolly clear lmao

manic spire
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The PSheffy team

summer harness
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Ima use full water for mode3 now teehee

manic spire
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Oh, I said WYuni on that team, meant to say SFYuni
Well, same difference here tbh

manic spire
summer harness
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I used sfyuni teehee

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I used sfyuni teeheeehh It didn't one shot smhh

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done hehe

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time for ex6 tmrw

manic spire
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Grats

urban vale
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So, I've learned from my 2 attempts of failure.

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Mode 1 doesn't need tanker at all and I should focus on AoE and buff because he's multi-target.

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Should definitely save all of my strongest healers for mode 3.

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And since mode 2, I should focus on single target heavy attack units. Also, save all tankers for mode 3.

manic spire
urban vale
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Thank you. I need to see my full potential tomorrow first.

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Thinking how about starting with my strongest possible AoE team (S.Homare, Original Misora and Ranpha)

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2 others usually be Eris and Kuuka for healing and tank. Now, obviously, they need to be replaced.

fair fulcrum
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No need to go full element btw

urban vale
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Oh no. Misato, unlike yesterday, was too slow for the heal.

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My strongest aoe team died of car crashes.

manic spire
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So as mentioned we can help with specific teams if you want
~~But if you wanna keep building youself I respect that ๐Ÿค ~~

Advice for mode 1 is be agressive
Lots of healing from draling damage
And the faster you break the targets the less damage you take cause each target = 1 goblin attacker

urban vale
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Misato is one of my weaker healer. As said above, I'm trying to save Ames & Eris for later mode.

fair fulcrum
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Why misato

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Literally use anything else
Yui for example

manic spire
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Also
If someone dies
You can back out of the hit and try a different team without losing anything KyaruOWO

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just so you know

urban vale
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So, the first team to combat mode 1's multi-target was : Homare, Shinobu, Misora, Ranpha & Misato.

urban vale
manic spire
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As long as not EVERYONE is dead
You can freely reset

urban vale
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That result doomed today entire combat.

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Even worse than yesterday because 4x5 have died and mode 1 was still not cleared.

urban vale
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Do you think the equipment rank is too low ? I'm guessing so.

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I've been having so many problems since Gio Gehenna. Everything everywhere seems too hard.

fair fulcrum
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yes. you want r33 at least for rank bonus

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tho for ex5 it should be enough

urban vale
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... and this one is the strongest in my account. Wow (lol)

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I really have nothing to say and feel a little bit tired.

fair fulcrum
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im not saying its bad. just that at max rank -1 you get rank bonus

urban vale
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Failure 3 times 3 days in a row makes me feel bad like a loser.

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Okay, so... let me capture some screens.

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These are everything I've got.

fair fulcrum
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aight. im sure kaede will take a look later and tell you some teams you can try

urban vale
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Thank you.

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My confidence was destroyed. I have a feeling that tomorrow will make no difference.

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If it's a fail again I might need to stay away from this game for a while...

fair fulcrum
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nah im sure you can make it. these bosses are supposed to be a challenge.
i spend like 6hours on ex7 last weekend just to fail in the end

urban vale
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... seems like ex7 is so notorious about difficulties. I remember back in jp-questions they told me do not bother with it until my level is maxed.

fair fulcrum
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yeah even them dont try till you have a really good box

urban vale
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Alright, thanks. There's a giant wall up ahead and all these are warning signs.

fair fulcrum
# urban vale

oh yeah @manic spire if you wanna take a look once you got free timeChloeComfy

manic spire
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I will take a look so you can try after reset

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In general though as Nyatsu says, getting ranked up to nax or 1 below will help a lot

manic spire
# urban vale

So, a couple things
Can you take pictures of ALL of your units for me?
EX5 at your level is gonna need 4+ teams and some units you don't use will probably be used
2nd, if you take those pictures on the team select mode you can fit way more units in a screenshot

urban vale
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I have 1,000 Divine Amulet though. When characters are too many, I'm afraid I could make a mistake.

manic spire
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Hmm
Ok, I see a Creditta
That's big
You also have most of an anemone team
Multi-target is a little lacking but I think this is doable
Gimme a bit to make some teams PecoNico

urban vale
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I learned from Tier List spreadsheet that Croce is the strongest AoE for light element.

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Gonna aim for her next PriFest.

manic spire
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Yeah, Croce is good here so I see why you might be struggling

manic spire
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@fair fulcrum
Help me remember the speed buffers we have available here
I see Yui, Eris, OYuki, and...?

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Nea

manic spire
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You gotta be shitting me...
I just typed up an Essay and nenekabot bonked me for it

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And the comment is gone

still epoch
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Wtf spam

manic spire
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So here's what we'll try

Mode 1 Team 1
Creditta
Rino 6*
Shizuru & Rino
XCreditta
Nera

Mode 1 Team 2
Akino and Saren
Little Lyrical Trio
CYukari
TTInori
Vikala

Mode 2 Team 3
Anemone
Ames
CMaho
Yui 6*
CYui

Mode 2 Team 4
SAmes
Djeeta
Yukari
PSheffy
SaRuka

Mode 3 Team 5
Lairael
OYuki
Ranpha
SNea
SpSuzume

Mode 3 Team 6
Eris
SHomare
Misora
Vampy
DPMaho

Ok
(typing this for a 2nd time because my last comment got bonked)
Let's try this
So, the teams are laid out for specific breakpoints
Team 1's goal is to break all the targets
Team 2's goal is to kill the 1st boss
Team 3's goal is to destroy with Anemone (And kill or almost kill the front goblin)
Team 4's goal is to kill the Goblin Mage
Team 5's goal is to chunk the final boss
Team 6's goal is to kill the boss and survive enrage

The general mechanics are mode 1 needs lots of multi target, but once you break all targets the boss won't attack if your damage is good enough (thus team 2 has no healers)
We use Ames on team 3 instead of at the end in order to turbo charge Anemone
If you had borrows available (Only available if in a clan) I would say borrow an Eris to go here too
Team 4 you need Yukari in order to survive the Mage's aoe nuke
Team 5 is just hit hard with magic
And we use Eris on team 6 to survive the boss's enrage
He starts hitting very hard, but Misora does lots of damage
So save her for last and hopefully kill with this team

If you need help identifying characters or need an extra team feel free to ping me
General advice is to get your unit's rank's raised up to max or 1 below in order to get rank bonus
Also, make sure units have UE if appropriate
Especially Vampy, she's just bad without hers
Good luck!

urban vale
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Thank you very much. So, I need to check a couple of things before I dive in. Including EX-Equipment.

manic spire
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yep make sure everyone has EX gear on (You can switch between hits)
Also make sure Creditta, Vampy, CMaho have UE at least unlocked

urban vale
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAYING WITH ME!

urban vale
urban vale
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Mode 1 - Team 2 : My characters might be weaker than you expected (LOL). So, I put in on my own.

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Mode 2 - Team 3 : Anemone, Ames, Maho (Cinderella), Yui6 and Yui (Celemonial)

urban vale
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Mode 2 - Team 4 : Starring MY WAIFU (?), Ames (Summer), Yukari6, Sheffy (Princess Form) and Ruka (Salasaria)

manic spire
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Looks like it's going well

urban vale
urban vale
manic spire
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congrats

fair fulcrum
manic spire
sharp tendon
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is it normal already to beat ex5 with 4 team only? KyoukaSus

manic spire
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nowadays?
Kinda yah

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Depends on level though

sharp tendon
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despite im not having any rec unit i think lvl cap is the key KyoukaSus

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im just putting random unit and the boss somehow died

manic spire
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Yeah, it's kinda at that point

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Most of the people helped out here are low 200s
But max level you can eventually steamroll

sharp tendon
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im actually surprise that prei actually still good to help shread in mode 2 KyoukaSus (actually i hab some of rec unit but not upgrade them at all)

urban vale
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I feel old ... (laugh)

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Read about how O.Yuki and the others work in Tier List sheet yesterday.

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and now I forgot it again.

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It seems the "speed buff" is more important than the others.

fair fulcrum
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OYuki speed buff is small but he also buffs other stuff

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Generally hes pretty hard to use. But ended up in the most broken teams

urban vale
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I tested him before clan battle ended yesterday and he didn't shine like I did in the team for beating Ex5 Goblins.

manic spire
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CB is much much more element focused
Yuki can definitely shine in the right team, but your light magic isn't the deepest so he's not gonna be great for you in element focused stuff yet

manic spire
#

@floral heath @zenith egret
Here are the boss mechanics
First
TL;DR
Mode 1 Multi Target break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's Single Target until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

Unique Mechanic is every 10 hits on the mage boss he blows himself up and damages/debuffs his allies
So stacking lots of small hits on him can be good (old strategy)

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

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Nowadays people usually use Anemone on Mode 2 to trivialize it
Without Anemone you need more multi target, but depending on your level it's usually fine

floral heath
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i have anemone

manic spire
floral heath
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anemone cmaho eris check

manic spire
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Level 200 is a liiiittle low
But I can take a look along with DxE in the morning
Gotta sleep for now
Your box look good for EX5 tho
Lots of mt

floral heath
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thsnks, hope y have good sleep

zenith egret
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ill just put this units here.once again tysm โค๏ธ

floral heath
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@manic spire are y avaliable?

manic spire
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Yes! Getting cooking for you

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๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿณ

floral heath
manic spire
floral heath
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all, well some 2 stars but nothing relevant

manic spire
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alright
Let's see
Are you in a clan you can borrow from?

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Just so I know

floral heath
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nop

manic spire
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Let's see
We can Anemone mode 2
I have a sinking feeling that at your level if you go all in anemone mode 2 you won't have the defense to survive mode 3
But maybe with modern units

Lind and Wyrm together helps a lot
Lemme double check the now Nozo skills

manic spire
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Mode 1 Team 1
Creditta
CTamaki
SFYuni
RShiori
SaRuka
(Not gonna lie, this team is sketch. Less mt than I thought at a glance last night. Might need a healer. Usually you don't use a tank here, but at your level I bet you need one)

Mode 1 Team 2
SYui
PAnna
Homare
TsKyaru
Vampy
(This is... a weird team. But I doubt team 1 will break all the targets. You might need a 3rd team here to finish it)

Mode 2 Team 1
Anemone
CMaho
Eris
Kasumi
SSaren

Mode 2 Team 2
WYuni
PSheffy
SYukari
SRei
Yukari

Mode 3 Team 1
OYuki
Echidna
Lind
Wyrm
Kururu

Mode 3 Team 2
CoMakoto
CoEriko
NyKokkoro
Riri
AYori
(This one is also kinda sketch. Because Eris was used on Anemone there are no great healers, so going the AYori TPDrain strat)

Ok, here's my ๐Ÿณ
I'm not sure if it's doable at level 200 with this setup, but worth a try
Have as many UEs as you reasonably can unlocked, and remember to use EX gear

manic spire
floral heath
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nice

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lets try

manic spire
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If you have issues just ping me
The first 2 teams I'm worried about HatsuneXD
But worth a shot

fair fulcrum
#

I was in the wrong guy

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Please no bully

manic spire
#

in the wrong guy

fair fulcrum
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Also stKurumi

manic spire
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๐Ÿ‘€

fair fulcrum
floral heath
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if anyone want to see

manic spire
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Oh, you right
I missed stKurumi

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Swap Kausumi for StKurumi on team 3 btw
I hard missed her

floral heath
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if i got there i will

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i go with the first tetam? o too low dmg?

manic spire
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Oof

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Yeah, that's low

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Does PAnna have her ue?

floral heath
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no

manic spire
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Cause maybe try team 2 as team 1

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Can you get her ue? She's in the shop now

floral heath
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i think

manic spire
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I'm gonna say try this team AS team 1
Homare
PAnne
Homare
SYui
Kururu

floral heath
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got panna ue

manic spire
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This steals Kururu feom a later team, but well you never get there CirnoShrug

floral heath
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at the limit xd

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2 homares?

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btw have this

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not know if is relevant

fair fulcrum
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Kuru behind anna btw.

floral heath
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dont think anna can suvive on fronline

fair fulcrum
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Seems like she canAnnaEdgy

floral heath
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still lacking

manic spire
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This is what I get for 3 years of no PAnna

floral heath
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well it survives

manic spire
floral heath
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but no enough dmg

manic spire
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Also, god I can't type
One of those Homare was supposed to be TSKyaru

If Anna is living, just do team 2 as originally written

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I think both teams combined plus a 3rd throw away team will work

floral heath
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opinions?

manic spire
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Is that with the 2nd team?
I think it3 doable with both teams plus a 3rd

floral heath
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ye is the 2nd team

manic spire
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I say send it and then run the 1st team
I'll make you a cleanup team

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That Ames is big on your borrows

floral heath
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this is the 1st team you told me no?

manic spire
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yeah

floral heath
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it is ok ?

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the clean up team should perform even better than the 2nd for beat it XD

manic spire
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Rei
Djeeta
WAoi
ONinon
CYukari

This team can be a throwaway team

manic spire
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The reason we couldn't clean up team yet is you needed to break all the targets first

floral heath
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i use th e rei team y just pass?

manic spire
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Finish the Tamaki hit

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And then the rei team is 3rd

floral heath
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which one is?

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not familiar yet with names KyoukaSmile

manic spire
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1st one

floral heath
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no working

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got killed super early

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well going to sleep if have more suggestions are apreciated, if not i eould try when im higher lvl KyaruOWO

manic spire
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Sorry, had business to take care of
Maybe best to try again in 15ish levels

manic spire
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Getting some teams

marble tulip
#

Currently level 213 I know my box isn't super great but was hoping for some help in clearing ex5 (I might have to wait till prifest so I can get ameth) ms 21 first section of element tree done thanks.

Edit I cleared it with some of the teams above and making some of my own.

sudden phoenix
full bobcat
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any comp for doing EX5? just returned a few month ago :3

radiant vapor
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Guys,any good comp for the bosses in this EX5 dungeon, should I start with physical or magic team first?

fair fulcrum
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Can do anemone teams
Or phys/mage mt
Doesn't really matter

lapis prairie
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i mean light blue

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just sync all of thm

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and close ur eyes

sudden phoenix
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Oh that was when I didnโ€™t know about the ranking up, making them weak stuff

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lol

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But Iโ€™ll update the new one here

lapis prairie
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just hit it with phys team/mage team

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it doesnt matter

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u can follow teams on cb, it wont matter

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ur like 2x the lvl of someone should beakt it

sudden phoenix
wooden gate
# sudden phoenix

run these team in order once you see the boss

and try to get TP for team 1 and team4 in particular before reaching the boss
(ignore stars)

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if that doesn't kill ask again, can still make more team though honestly these are probably enough at that lvl

sudden phoenix
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Fingers crossed ๐Ÿคž

wooden gate
#

forgot to say but fullset all the team

sudden phoenix
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The results, I was halfway for that final phase. All 4 teams has been used

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Also yes I did use full set team

wooden gate
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wait a bit,

wooden gate
sudden phoenix
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@wooden gate I did it, youโ€™re the goat

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Thank you PecoDelight

safe sequoia
manic spire
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I haven't been here lately IliyaOops
Congrats folks ShiorinIRLPet

limber fable
#

Are there any link or sheets for ex5?

rotund sleet
wooden gate
rotund sleet
still mulch
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idk if lvl/box is good enough but if anyone can help, i appreciate it Prayge

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TW is on PSheffy banner rn so if I need to spark a prifes unit for this, I dont mind

still mulch
rare patrol
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Good box, but still most of your good characters canโ€™t really function yet

rare patrol
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Sheโ€™s basically cheat code for this

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For tips first mode is AoE mode, use an AoE team, like 6Muimi

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Second mode you have to take down 2 bosses. Can do ST team against the two of them, though AoE would still be more efficient

still mulch
rare patrol
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Third node is DPS test

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So yeah

still mulch
#

just got shiori and jun 6 today

rare patrol
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Oh

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That works

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Shiori

still mulch
#

and pulled smimi / srei if that matters

rare patrol
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Hold up lemme pull up the teams Kyrari gave me

rare patrol
still mulch
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o wait

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i finished muimi yesterday

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i just forgot clueless

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i can post updated box in a bit just so its a bit clear

rare patrol
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Ah Muimi 6 carry

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1st team should be Jun/SNea Muimi AHiyori (or PHiyori canโ€™t tell) Nefi Nera Ames

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Can probably melt 1st node

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(The other two slots are flex slots lmao)

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Second node can play Mone team (Eris Ameth Mone Nnk CMaho)

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These two teams can be used for either nodes

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Last node can go with PKok PSheffy SAmes SRiri Ruka

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Remember not to pair PSheffy with Nefi Nera because well field effect donโ€™t stack on each other

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If thatโ€™s somehow still not enough damage can go for Pyaru team with Snnk Lyraelโ€ฆ

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Wait is your Yukari 6

still mulch
#

no

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still farming

rare patrol
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Nah nvm

still mulch
rare patrol
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As long as Yukari stands in front of Lyrael

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So she can battery her

still mulch
rare patrol
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So the last team can be Kururu Yukari Lyrael Snnk Pyaru

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Idk about placement but Yukari should still battery Lyrael

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But who cares probably still gonna be enough anyways

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Iโ€™m not taking into account situations where 6Muimi melts more than first node btw

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@still mulch remember to quit before fight end or all members die so we can go back to drawing board

still mulch
rare patrol
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If your node teams canโ€™t clear the node theyโ€™re made for

still mulch
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does this boss have a wipe mechanic at the end

still mulch
#

ICANT idk why i asked

rare patrol
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Try the teams I told you

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And tell me the result

still mulch
#

wait im sorry, i might have to postpone this tomorrow. something came up KyaruSadButter

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ill just ping you if i ever get to it

rare patrol
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Itโ€™s fine

still mulch
#

1st team only does around 60% of boss 1 hp

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this might be a little late to say but i only figured out this window existed like 2 minutes ago

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i always thought ex equipment only came from those random events icant

rare patrol
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Did you quit the fight before it ends?

still mulch
rare patrol
#

If you quit the fight before it ended

still mulch
rare patrol
#

How much of node 2

still mulch
#

yea

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13s left only going into node 2 which prob does nothing

rare patrol
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Nah Mone team damage multiplier is crazy

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Just go with that for node 1

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Use Muimi team for node 2

still mulch
#

kk

still mulch
rare patrol
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Slap one of the two other team in for second boss

still mulch
rare patrol
#

Still 51mil left?

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Wait thatโ€™s more than I remember

still mulch
#

surely i can just start tossing random garbage

rare patrol
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Nah hold up

rare patrol
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So hold

still mulch
#

kk

rare patrol
still mulch
rare patrol
#

Anyways

rare patrol
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Try this

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Then weโ€™ll do PPeco LLtrio

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As long as your LLTrio have their UE should be able to sweep

still mulch
rare patrol
#

HUH???

still mulch
manic spire
manic spire
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TW is on... Re:Zero rn?

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Or around there

still mulch
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next banner should be rezero. currently on the summer units rerun

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nozomi/rei/mimi etc

still mulch
#

yea

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i tried kokkoro swapping and it gets up to end at least. 36m left

rare patrol
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Forgot that PRei prefer AoE team

still mulch
#

still same dmg 36m

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idm coming back to this in like +10 lvls if its a bit hard rn

rare patrol
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You kinda have to have a Def buff

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Oh yeah SChika

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SChika fat def buff

still mulch
#

they live until 18s but dmg is worse

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(36.7m)

rare patrol
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I do wonder if you geared them up properly but

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Whatever

still mulch
manic spire
#

This mode 3?
PRei isn't gonna do anything

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Either defense buff
Or run suicide teams
That will die on ub 3

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How much of your dark box is left?

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I usually mage mode 3 into the dirt

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Also don't be afraid to mix elements
EX5 was made pre elements

still mulch
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i only started playing 2 months ago and i dont even know what 80% of my units do since i cant read chinese ICANT

still mulch
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most of my issues come from survivability, boss ubs and 2/5 units just die

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then its domino effect

manic spire
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Happy to help now though

manic spire
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So even if you die
You can just multi team it
Assuming you used your borrow already
Try

NKuuka
PKyaru
SHomare
Misora
OYuki
If you have a borrow left, sub OYuki for Eris
Will probably die But w/e
Can just do another team

Kururu
Lairael
SKyouka
Maho
SNeneka

still mulch
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im free peepoHappy3

lime sierra
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@manic spire

manic spire
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kk, gimme a minute or 5

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Also, next time you do screenshots take them from the party select screen on a stage

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Can fit 16 per screen shot that way

lime sierra
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Ahhh my bad

manic spire
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no worries
just easier for you too

manic spire
lime sierra
manic spire
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So you can easily just Anemone mode 2
so that helps

And you have more than enough single targets and buffers for mode 3

The only somewhat tricky part is your multi target is a bit thin for mode 1

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There's ab argument to just anemone mode 1 in this situation

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Can I see your borrows?

lime sierra
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PeinnnnYuiDead

gritty lichen
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0 borrows

manic spire
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what do you think Fak.e.o. speedwagon

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Just mone mode 1 and say fuck it

gritty lichen
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yeah same clan

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all are maxed

lime sierra
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I not join dungeon clan yet

gritty lichen
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oh right you can ask for kick

manic spire
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Well, let's try it 2 ways

gritty lichen
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and can prolly get dungeon clan mone

manic spire
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he has mone

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So yeah could double mone

lime sierra
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Okeyy

manic spire
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But what I'll do is build you a b1 team

rare patrol
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Wow bro have full Wind Mage core

manic spire
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Try it

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But don't finish

rare patrol
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I guess CereIllya is missing but

manic spire
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Just show results

gritty lichen
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yeah don't let timeout

manic spire
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And we'll decide whether to stick with it or just mone

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Imma go test this build myself real quick, will be 5 mins

lime sierra
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Alr ping them to kick me

gritty lichen
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if bro online he'd kick but I think he prolly sleeping YuiDead

manic spire
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nah, dont worry

lime sierra
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Pein

manic spire
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might not be needed

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I'm testing rn

lime sierra
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Yeay

manic spire
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Try this

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and don't finish

lime sierra
manic spire
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pause at like 3 seconds/if people die and send a screenshot

manic spire
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Just seeing if this is feasible at your level

lime sierra
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I mean for mobs and not boss so they can ub on boss?

manic spire
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oh, yeah
so for mobs
you wanna change teams every time to gain tp if you can

manic spire
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Mob teams you can kinda do whatever so long as nobody dies

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Try to charge all your speed boosters
Laby/Grace/Eris etc.
As well as anybody else you can

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but yes, no set on mobs

lime sierra
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Blue, purple or green robe for spsuzume and ahh who that girl infront

manic spire
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Kururu in front

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Pink bnnuy in light

lime sierra
manic spire
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Give Suzu the Green robe for a bit more damage
That robe rn is just damage cut

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don't use unless she straight dies

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but otherwise looks good

lime sierra
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Kururu?

manic spire
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no, Suzume

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give her the same robe Maho has