EX5 Dungeon

[manic spire]

@wooden gate EX6 help needed

[bitter zealot]

oof ok then

thx for the help in ex5

[manic spire]

the ex6 gist is
Don't get it under 100m unless you can kill
You can switch modes by timing out with a tank
Modes cycle on a fixed pattern
But as mentioned I don't remember which mode is which

You have more than enough units I think tho

[bitter zealot]

ic...

[manic spire]

@unique sequoia You want EX5 support?

[unique sequoia]

i realized i’m too under leveled and i can’t really do much damage i wouldn’t want to waste your time, but thank you!

[manic spire]

What level are you?

Because I bet you can

[unique sequoia]

209

[manic spire]

If you box is good you can do it

Probably need 7 or 8 teams, but it's not really that underleveled

[unique sequoia]

would it help if i took screenshots of what characters i have?

[manic spire]

yeah, you can use the small icons like when you go to make a comp

[unique sequoia]

all of my lower rarity units aren’t starred up or leveled

[manic spire]

Do you kow about sync?

[unique sequoia]

the level thing that was just added?

yeah, i just haven’t leveled most of my units since i dont use a lot of them

[manic spire]

mkay, just making sure because I see a few good ones raised like PRei

You might be right, it would probably be a little tough to do EX5 right now, but you're not that far off
A few more 6 stars and I think you can though

Shiori/Tomo/Muimi maybe

I see just about enough teams if yu're like... 10 levels higher

[unique sequoia]

i can focus on 6 starring those 3 then, i’m currently trying to 6* shiori atm

are there any characters i should level?

[manic spire]

Well not really any reason not to just level and rank up everyone since sync makes it free
But in particular
AYori
CMakoto
MMonika
WMatsuri
SYukari
XYori
Quria
CMaho
EXMaho
PRei
PPeco

Not all of these are amazing units, a few are, but there are some warm bodies in there so to speak
Can fill in roles since you need 30-40 units total

You can use that button to rank/level everyone up at once in case you didn't know
I... literally can't show you because all my units are max now though

[unique sequoia]

haha it’s okay

thank you though! i appreciate the help

i’ll come back when i’m a bit stronger then

[manic spire]

I do think you're close
elements made it a lot easier

[unique sequoia]

yeah, the elements update helped me out during luna tower so i’m sure it’ll help here as well

[finite veldt]

do i need to screenshot all my units

cuz with sync i have like a good 100 something untis lmao

o kaede is aslep i assume?

[manic spire]

no

I'm here

[manic spire]

It's easier that way yah
If you're max level I can just give you some tesms and you can probably no brain it

But if like 210-250 I probably need your box

[finite veldt]

am ehhh, 286 lmao

but i am missing critical units like croce

croce

and croce

and smimi

for mode 1

[manic spire]

You might need to 2 hit it
But you can definitely do it

[manic spire]

I can give you a basic outline of mods or... oh

[finite veldt]

Will throw box regardless

[manic spire]

that works

I'm gonna give you 2 mode 1 teams

might not need both

[finite veldt]

mm

[manic spire]

Muimi 3

No PRei?

[finite veldt]

waiting for prifes to DA her up

although i think if i need to i can make her 6* like in 5 minutes

[finite veldt]

sadly no

[manic spire]

ooh, this might be fun then

I have to brew mode 1 for a sec

[finite veldt]

lmao so i go ahead and make muimi 6?

[manic spire]

nah

[finite veldt]

o

[manic spire]

She's only like the 3rd best option anyways

[finite veldt]

lol

[manic spire]

no Creditta no SRanpha?

[finite veldt]

nope, i do have a suptix tho which i can grab credit with

as she looks like the best choice anyways

[manic spire]

So, we have 2 ways to do mode 1
Either should be ok at your level
Mage with NYhomare
Or Phys with Laby/CTamaki

Looking for element synergies... I think Phys might be better?
Unsure

[finite veldt]

think wanna save laby for mode 2/3?

[manic spire]

Nah, Usually team 1 is all light Laby/Croce 1pan

[finite veldt]

a

[manic spire]

but if we go wind we might save her for mode 3

How Close to 6 is that monika?

[finite veldt]

sec

2/150 for 4-->5 star lmao

[manic spire]

Tomo?

[finite veldt]

29/150

this is one fucked box innit

ive been farming their shards for quite a while now but

feels like not enough

[manic spire]

you have a few good lims for mode 2 tbh

ok, changed my mind again
Try mage
NYHomare
PYui
Nkuuka
Homare
NYNeneka

[finite veldt]

lmao changed ur mind again

[manic spire]

I'm not sure if you need a dedicated healer at your level
If you do can swap out Neneka

Make sure to gear up on EXEquips and the goal is to break all of the enemy targets

[finite veldt]

oh ex

actually forgro, nice reminder

[manic spire]

Honestly your box is great for mode 2
And has a few good mode 3 tools
But your Multi Target is a bit scuffed

[finite veldt]

lemoa

i hope to get prei also during prifes

but my target is gonna be eris and pkya

[manic spire]

If you can break all the targets here you should be fine
The issue with EX5 is it has 2 multi target modes

mode 1
And the 1st half of mode 2

So you need more than 1 team

[finite veldt]

a

[manic spire]

And I think the phys EXAyane and CTamaki will be better on mode 2

TL:DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

[finite veldt]

i c

[manic spire]

The gist of ex5 btw

[finite veldt]

oops there goes nynnk

oh wait i forgor ex

lets see

[manic spire]

ok, do need a healer probabyl tho

[finite veldt]

oh goddamn i think i need a timeout to sort out ex equips

[manic spire]

sure, no worries

They help a lot and are used on deep nodes so it's good to get them straight

If you need a healer we can use PKokko
Wanted to save her, but might be needed

[finite veldt]

man didnt i just did a EX equip maxing star session earlier

there we go lets give this another try

[manic spire]

[finite veldt]

actually took a whole 10 minutes to do lmao

okay, with that comp i am slightly more than halfway done with mode 1

159m health left on boss

[manic spire]

How many targets?

Can you send a screenshot at all?

[finite veldt]

more than 1... i'll redo it
im paused at 3 seconds left

4 targets left

[manic spire]

nah, if more than 1
try
NYHomare
PYui
homare
EXmaho
Pkokko

With a dedicated Healer Pkokko can probably tank

Get a 4th dps in there

[finite veldt]

exmaho gimme some time to find er lmao

[manic spire]

If that doesn't work we'll do a phys team

She's the 🍑 one

[finite veldt]

only recently got her

ill try and get a screenshot by like 10 seconds

oh, 1 target left

126m left

[manic spire]

Is the target see through?

[finite veldt]

... oh priconne froze lmao

[manic spire]

yeah, ok
We good

[finite veldt]

lemme just
do that all over

[manic spire]

Well that team works
When the gem comes up that's the goal for this team

[finite veldt]

kek

[manic spire]

I'll brew another mode 1 team
Gonna use some subpar units to save the good ones
no tank needed because with enough damaga the boss just sits there

[finite veldt]

fair i guess

[manic spire]

PInori
Riri
Precia
Cmakoto
Cmonika

This is like... the 1 mode Cmonika is good on

Because her buff will never be interrupted

Goal for this team is clear mode 1

be careful though
if dps is too low the boss will ub and start killing
If that happens quit out

Damage drains boss TP in this mode

[finite veldt]

pinori?

[manic spire]

Phantom thief

[finite veldt]

ah

[manic spire]

The dark one

I would say save the Alter maiden units for mode 3, if you had all 3
But in this case just go for a dark subtheme dps race

[finite veldt]

sadge only have 2/3 altar maiden

okay mode clear

so i'll let this team go into mode 2 and just die?

[manic spire]

How much time left?

[finite veldt]

45 seconds

[manic spire]

uhhh, hmm that's a good amount of time

I think it's ok though yeah
this is the mode you want muimi because she's dual mt/st

But those units aren't gonna do a ton in mode 3 idt

[finite veldt]

but she's 3 star lmao

so i let the current team just run in mode 2 first?

[manic spire]

Yeah

[finite veldt]

k

letssee how much they can chip off

[manic spire]

That's what I mean
If you have her it would be good

[finite veldt]

ah

welp

[manic spire]

Meanwhile

mode 2 team 1
EXAyane
CTamaki
Shiori
NYmisato
Jun6

ideally would still have Pkokko for this wind team, but 3/5 still fine

Goal is to kill 1st boss

[finite veldt]

26m left on first boss

[manic spire]

Not bad

[manic spire]

This team is meant to be a hybrid too

Cause Shiori is kinda dual purpose here

Every 10 hits on the Goblin Mage will interrupt it and make it use the cauldron attack, that debuffs self and front Goblin
So you want mt/st hybrid

[finite veldt]

i see

[manic spire]

how we looking?

[finite veldt]

yes i was sorting ex equip

[manic spire]

the struggle never ends

Maika stalking me

[finite veldt]

i should just one day go ahead and strenghen every ex euqip i have

not good sadly

[manic spire]

Team died?

[manic spire]

ahh~

I wonder...

[finite veldt]

might be UE

i'll retreat first

lemme check

yep both ctama and exayane dont have ue

well ctama just doesnt have one i guess

[manic spire]

Yeah

Ayane's would help
And NYMisato is very good, but I wonder
If the element bonus would just be better if you ran vanilla Kokko over her

To get 4/5 winds

I kinda doubt it, but might be worth trying

If this doesn't work I have another idea with NYSheffy

[finite veldt]

why not give it a try

nope jun died

[manic spire]

welp
lets go the other direction
Cut XAyane
Add NYsheffy

[finite veldt]

with kok or with misato

[manic spire]

So
Jun
NYmisato
NYSheffy
Shiori
CTama

[finite veldt]

k

[manic spire]

I think just ignore element for this one and focus on the teams I know

[finite veldt]

lol

better than last time i guess

[manic spire]

I think it might be good enough at the end... not sure

[finite veldt]

but it looks like its still not a kill on first guy

[manic spire]

yeah, if it can get to like 10% should be good though

[finite veldt]

10% ok

[manic spire]

can you go to like 3 sec left?

[finite veldt]

i'll pause at 2 sec left

[manic spire]

ok, I think this will do

[finite veldt]

10% excatly lemao

okay, what next

should be single target?

[manic spire]

Next team
Ruka
Xmiyako
SChika
Christina
WMatusri

Trying to save the best phys for mode 3
Can do omega light in mode 3
If this doesn't kill the mage or get close we can use that light team here

[finite veldt]

lemme just take the ex equips off

[manic spire]

You can do it all rom the team menu btw

[finite veldt]

oh

[finite veldt]

anyone of them need UE1?

[manic spire]

Miyako and Chika

Though I'd think chika already has hers

[finite veldt]

nope ruka died

i'l try switch ex on her

[manic spire]

👌

Does that VShizuru have EX2 btw?

[finite veldt]

nope, but i can DA it

am still farming pure shards

[manic spire]

Don't bother rn, I don't think you need it
Just wondering for team building

[finite veldt]

rip, ruka doesnt survive

[manic spire]

ah, ok

It's because front boss is still alive

[finite veldt]

where the hell is the chris ults

yes its cuz front boss

[manic spire]

Swap her for Nozo and see how it does

[finite veldt]

oh nvm ruka survives

[manic spire]

[finite veldt]

had a 3 star pink shield

while i could have a 5 star gold one lmao

[manic spire]

gold 5 > Pink 3

[finite veldt]

ye

i thought the pink was 4*
nope

is this good

[manic spire]

Not quite ideal
Can we see how it looks at 3 secs?

[finite veldt]

k

[manic spire]

damn

[finite veldt]

should i borrow a gigamax chris instead lmao

[manic spire]

nah, we can tweak
Sorry it's taking so long

[finite veldt]

na its fine

this is fun

[manic spire]

I would swap matsuri for Lmuimi and see how it goes

[finite veldt]

k

[manic spire]

Fingers crossed the Ruka thing wasn't a fluke

[finite veldt]

nope she die

wtf was happening

[manic spire]

Might have been rng?

[finite veldt]

might have been

lets see can i get favourable rng again

[manic spire]

No use beating your head against a wall for it though if you can't

I'm brewing a backup team

[finite veldt]

nvm i fogured out problem

chris has a lv30 ue

: )

[manic spire]

[finite veldt]

she now has a lv280 one

[manic spire]

I would suggest
raising it

[finite veldt]

okay ehh

... mode clear

KEK

[manic spire]

With the Lmuimi team?

Or Matsuri?

[finite veldt]

lmuimi

7 seconds left

should i try with matsuri

[manic spire]

So before we do mode 3
What borrows do you have available?

[finite veldt]

im paused atm

[manic spire]

if you want we could save muimi, but I think it's fine

[finite veldt]

ok lets try to save lmuimi

now that chris is actually working

KEK

[manic spire]

Now that the Utage has Hajimari'd

[finite veldt]

oh shit, 12% left

[manic spire]

Yeah, Just Muimi

not worth the hassle

[finite veldt]

ehh the problem is i didnt pause in time

[manic spire]

oops

[finite veldt]

yep i pulled a huge oops

[manic spire]

Random BS go

[finite veldt]

really?

[manic spire]

yep

We can save it

[finite veldt]

i'll start from bottom of my list then?

[manic spire]

You have Yukari, right?

[finite veldt]

yes i have yuk 6

her ue doestn need to be maxed right

[manic spire]

We need her for the nuke still

Nah, ue doesn't matter

[finite veldt]

just in case i pull another chris ue30 lmao

i'll start by using event welfare units first

[manic spire]

we need to do it in 1 team is the thing

Or else Yukari will be used up against the nuke

[finite veldt]

for the mage?

[manic spire]

yeah

[finite veldt]

oh

i was thinking of body piling

[manic spire]

I mean you can~

but we can use some of those units in a less good team
You might need to body pile mode 3

[finite veldt]

ah

xsaren muimi lmuimi ahiyori and yukari?

[manic spire]

so
Yukari
WMifuyu
Muimi (Yep, at 3 star)
Nozomi
LL Trio

[finite veldt]

oh

[manic spire]

12% is not a lot

I think save Lmuimi and XSaren still

[finite veldt]

k

[manic spire]

Doesn't matter who dies so long as the boss does too

[finite veldt]

4 star pink is better than 5 star gold?

[manic spire]

yes

[finite veldt]

ok this shld work then

there goes muimi and ll

[manic spire]

How much damage?

[finite veldt]

12 seocnds left, 1 % left on mage

[manic spire]

let it finish I think

[finite veldt]

11 seocnds left mode clear

[manic spire]

there we go

[finite veldt]

let it chip final boss then

[manic spire]

yep

[finite veldt]

ok

hardly did anything ofc but ehh

[manic spire]

well, this was random bs mostly
Gonna be honest, those 2 weren't surviving the final boss in a proper team either

[finite veldt]

kek

[manic spire]

ok, so what are the borrows available?

[manic spire]

Can you poke clanmates at all?

[finite veldt]

yes but i think it'll take a long time

what are you looking for

[manic spire]

We can make it work, Ideally that Misora would be max level/rank

Your SRuka is also gonna be great here for TP steal

[finite veldt]

oh that lv260 one?

[manic spire]

yeah

[finite veldt]

nope, rank 29 only

[manic spire]

Misora is very good on final boss
But I think Pyaru max is better than no rank bonus misora

So
Goal is to 2 team it
1 mage 1 phys
Borrow is probably PYaru

[finite veldt]

well lets give this a try
if it doesnt work i'll just try tomorrow i guess

[manic spire]

Although theres an argument for PKokko

So usually mage first is best
because mages have a hard time surviving enrage at 20m hp

[finite veldt]

ah

[manic spire]

Lairael
AYui
PKyaru
Ames
NKuuka

Actually

Don't borrow yet

Lairael
AYui
Neneka
Ames
NKuuka

Try this first

[finite veldt]

ok

lariel doenst have a UE right

[manic spire]

nope

neneka does and should be... very high
NKuuka does but only needs unlock

[finite veldt]

OOF nkuuka and ames died at 9 seconds left

[manic spire]

The boss does that
How is the damage?

[manic spire]

[finite veldt]

tad low i think

[manic spire]

yeah, checking something

I'm dumdum

[finite veldt]

i'll pull team back first?

[manic spire]

Swap Nkuuka with Cilya

yeah

[finite veldt]

wait, no tank?

[manic spire]

You have a CIlya that buffs speed and has bats to eat hits

[finite veldt]

oh

[manic spire]

That derp is on me

CIlya is very strong

Is she dies can pivot
But Ames makes EVERYONE a tank

[finite veldt]

oh okay this si much beter

[manic spire]

yeah

[finite veldt]

30 seconds left 32m left

[manic spire]

yeah, let it ride~

[finite veldt]

oh ehhh

[manic spire]

SRuka TP drain and phys will carry the finale

[finite veldt]

at 18 seconds, boss has 23m left and WILL wipe

[manic spire]

Yeah, that's expected

You rarely get a full team on mode 3

[finite veldt]

i paused before he deals damage

do i let him wipe

[manic spire]

yeah

[finite veldt]

F

[manic spire]

🫡

So for (hopefully) final team
We go phys will all the good phys that we've been saving

And even still have a borrow if ames is needed

[finite veldt]

so laby lnozo lmuimi sruka... and djeeta?

wait do we need a tank

[manic spire]

SRuka is your tank

[finite veldt]

o

[manic spire]

SRuka
Djeeta
Laby
Shizu/Rino
Lnozo

Might need a healer

[finite veldt]

shizurino eh

[manic spire]

but Ruka TP drain stalls the boss UB

[manic spire]

yeah, they're pretty good st

[finite veldt]

GG

[manic spire]

LMuimi might be better here
But They're a little squishy

[manic spire]

yeah~

Who is left as a healer

[manic spire]

oh, I misinterpreted

GG

[finite veldt]

thank you a lot

[manic spire]

That was a fun one, happy to help

[finite veldt]

no croce no pkyaru kek

[manic spire]

Suffered mode 1 to EZ 2 tap mode 3

[finite veldt]

yep

and a huge blunder in mage phase

[manic spire]

Surprisingly you're not far from EX6 tbh
because you probably need less teams
EX6 I'm bad at though

Enjoy your Cactus Syrup Pancakes

[finite veldt]

i'll let my exweapon points recover a bit

i have 610 points left KEK

thank you!

[manic spire]

[summer harness]

Another kaede win

[river summit]

@manic spire did it just now

[summer harness]

[river summit]

Basically team 1-3 unchanged,

Then: greanne, yukari, ames, nynnk, vampy got it to like 50m

Now ran ur misora team and got it to 2.3m

Sent in nozo, mkt, eriko, riri, nymitsuki to finish

[cobalt radish]

ooh
only 6 team

[river summit]

5 wouldve been enough if switched around ex gear for the 2 mage teams

[manic spire]

[river summit]

@trim jackal this what i used today.,.. dont know ur full box but if u can run those should work ig

Start from croce team, then ny homare and so on

[trim jackal]

i dont have nykora

[manic spire]

I can help you make an alternate team
Lemme know if you want me to~

[trim jackal]

@manic spire

[manic spire]

Anyone else?
Even unbuilt?

You have
Croce
Laby
LNozo
Creditta
SKokko

Team
Which should be able to 1 tap mode 1

Ah, I see
This is TW isn't it
No elements

For mode 2 I don't really see enough mages to do a mage team
I might go

Muimi
Monika
XJun
PKokko
SaSaren

[trim jackal]

that'sal i have

[manic spire]

Oh, that actually helps a lot
There are some good units here for ex5
I'm a bit busy at the moment but in a couple hours I can get you some teams

CMaho
AkiSaren
CTamaki
All will help a lot

[austere inlet]

Hey guys, can someone give me some advice for this dungeon? Last time, i'm stuck at mode 2 and I abandon it for a long time. And now i want some revenge, but being afraid again lol. I already use Laby, PRei, Muimi6, Mimi6, Hiyori6

And this is all my chara

[manic spire]

Gimme 30 mins and I'll help both you and the fellow above you
Question though, are all the targets broken on the boss right now?

[austere inlet]

Ah yeah, just the crystal left there

[manic spire]

ok, so
Gonna give you 5 more teams, this should be fine

TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

So to finish mode 1 lets use a bunch of suboptimal units, because a good mode 1 comp won't carry until mode 2 well

CMonika
PInori
Rei6
Riri
Little Lyrical Trio
Goal is to just kill mode 1

mode 2 team 1
Goal: Kill front Goblin
Croce
NYMisato
Creditta
XJun
Hatsune/Shiori

mode 2 team 2
Goal: Kill the goblin mage
PPeco
Yukari for Barrier
Djeeta
Lmuimi
MMonika

mode 3 Team 1
Mage team pre enrage
Ames
Misora
Lairael
CIlya
Neneka

Mode 3 Team 2
Phys (Hopefully Kills)
Christina
PKokko
SaSaren
Akino/Saren
Akino

@austere inlet

[manic spire]

And then for you
I'm gonna give you 6 teams
You might have to build some units though

Mode 1 Team 1
Croce
Laby
Creditta
Lnozo
CMaho
(You might need a healer, if you do replace Cmaho with SKokko)

Mode 1 Team 2 (After all the targets break)
Muimi 6
SaSaren
LMuimi
PKokko
XSaren
(this team might not be needed, it depends on how good team 1 does)

mode 2 team 1
Goal: Kill front goblin
XJun
CTamaki
SFYuni
Akino/Saren
HTomo

mode 2 Team 2
goal: kill the mage
PPeco
Yukari for barrier (Can also be SChika)
Monika
Christina
PShinobu

mode 3 Team 1
Misora
Ames
Neneka
Cilya
Lairael

mode 3 team 2
NKuuka
SNeneka
Kyouka 6
Borrow Ames if possible
WDjeeta

[austere inlet]

Let me try it, thanks

[manic spire]

If you have any hiccups just ping me

[austere inlet]

Poison got me there T_T @manic spire

[manic spire]

Yeah, so
Yukari should be guarding from that

Can you try
Not setting her until like 15 seconds in?

Other option is add another barrier unit
But You don't have SChika

[austere inlet]

When the first boss ulti, i had to use her UB, but then the goblin mage got ulti and dispel the barrier

[manic spire]

Ah, ok
I think
Maybe just replace MMoni with a healer then
So Yukari isn't your only healer

Front 3 should be able to solo the boss
With Yukari for the barrier and say... Kokko 6 as healer

Save Yui6 for emergency mode 3 stuff

[austere inlet]

How about P Kokkoro??

[manic spire]

She's for mode 3
But if you wanna use PKokko here and Yui6 on mode 3 team 2 sure

[austere inlet]

Okay, let me use Kokkoro 6 first for now

[manic spire]

You have plently of units and are high enough level so you shohld be fine
SChika just fills both healer and barrier role here so have to tweak it without her

[austere inlet]

Need 2 more team before the final boss die, but hey, my revenge has been fulfilled

Thanks for the help @manic spire

And now its time to think about dungeon VI, that thing was so hard to beat

[manic spire]

Happy to help

[tired harbor]

im in need of assistance for clearing this dungeon

i can show all the people i have

[manic spire]

Are you planning on hitting now?

I can walk you through it and build you teams

[manic spire]

First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

The mechanics

Mode 1 Team 1
Laby
LNozo
Croce
Hatsune/Shiori (With UE)
NYmisato

this should kill mode 1

[manic spire]

Do you have Tomo?

I can't find her

[tired harbor]

i dont sadly

😭

see i have the shards for her but i wasnt sure if i should just pray that i get her in a pull or just use them to get her

so ive just been saving them

cause i cant insta 5* her if i use them to get her instead of pulling her

[manic spire]

Mode 2 Team 1
PKokko
SFYuni
Shiori
CTamaki
RShiori

Goal is to kill Front Gobbo but you still need to hit back Gobbo to weaken them
If this doesn't work casn tray a mage build

Do you have SChika?

[tired harbor]

no

[manic spire]

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal, Kill the mage
PPeco
Djeeta
Yukari (For Barrier against Enrage)
Skokko
LMuimi

mode 3 team 1
Unload with magic
Ames
Neneka
CIlya
PKyaru
AYui

mode 3 team 2
Goal is to kill
Use tanky phys dps to survive enrage
Christina
XJun
Shizuru/Rino
Yui6
Akino/Saren

If possible borrow another Laby for this team instead of AkiSare, but you should be fine

This hopefully kills the boss, but if not you have like... 4 more teams we can make if needed

Good luck!

[tired harbor]

thank you!! i beat it in almost 4 teams

didnt even need the last team

i just threw whatever at it to kill it fast

cause it had like less than 100k

[manic spire]

Happy to help
Good luck on EX6

[tired harbor]

im gonna hold off on that 💀

until i get more meta units like tomo 😭

[manic spire]

I think you can do it tbh
I'm not the ex6 guy, but because you can kinda choose the mode you can nuke it down faster than ex5
CTama real good against it and elements... well they made things easier

[tired harbor]

i see

thanks for the help regardless

imma just hold off for a bit

[terse inlet]

I need some help from the master @manic spire

Max level. Missing ny misato, sf yuni, l muimi, akisaren, annegrea.

I’m lazy and also can’t remember other units that may or may not be essential. Please help me 👉👈

[summer harness]

You have Croce laby?

[terse inlet]

I do both 5* Laby ue 130

[summer harness]

Did you not ue orb laby

What about a Hatsune shiori?

Actually, kaede will come soon

[terse inlet]

Didn’t have any orbs when I first got Laby and then when I did, I was already slowing getting them from adventure mode and decided not too. If not for it being partially enhanced, I would’ve used an orb still.

[cobalt radish]

might be good to post ur box to save some time

[trim jackal]

ty

[trim jackal]

i cant beat the first part wuth 2 teams

i feel like xsaren has little impact can i swap her with someoneelse

[terse inlet]

Me box

[river summit]

No ny misato or am i blind?

[terse inlet]

@river summit

[river summit]

Ah ic guess we gotta wait for kaede then

Thoought maybe my teams could work

But i used 4 of those

Sry

[manic spire]

You can try sure
My teams are just guidelimes
Everyone is gonna be different depending on level and stuff

[manic spire]

Unfortunately I am quite busy today

So I'll try to come back with teams later, but it might be a day

[river summit]

I mean i can try cooking something

But pretty sure u have a lot more michelin stars that i do

[manic spire]

🧑‍🍳

If you wanna try feel free
If not, no worries
I just might be a day

Here is the summary of the mechanics @terse inlet
First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

[cobalt radish]

professor kaede's classes are postponed
need to train assistants

[river summit]

Ill go take a shower first

Then start cooking

[manic spire]

I can throw some real quick
Maybe you can help if there's issues

Team 1
Creditta
Laby
Croce
LNozo
HatsuShio

If mode 1 still alive use st units not in other teams to finish it

Mode 2 team 1
Tomo
Shiori
PKokko
CTamaki
Ruka

Mode 2 Team 2
Makoto
PPeco
SChika
Muimi
Djeeta

Mode 3 Team 1
Lairael
Ames
Neneka
Misora
Monika

Mode 3 Team 2
Christina
XJun
SaSaren
SKokko
Borrow a laby if possible
If not use another phys dps

If a 3rd mode 3 team is needed Use somwthing with XPeco/AYui magic

Good luck
Gotta go

[trim jackal]

i finish stage 1 but idk if i xan do stage2

[manic spire]

I'm really sorry
I have to get back to work

[river summit]

@terse inlet this was for u ig

Team 1 goal is kill mode 1
team 1 mode 2 wants to kill first boss and tem 2 mode 2 finishes mode 2
Then u try to kill with 2 mage teams

[terse inlet]

Ggs. Appreciate it buddy. Was only short 2.4 mil after team 3-2

They’re gonna nerf kaede someday. Brain too big

[elfin panther]

thx for cooking kaede, just used some of your teams together and it worked out great

[ripe wren]

Hello, I'm trash at team building/gauging the usefulness of what I have. I wasn't sure if anything could be done with this

-32-3, 298
-most of them probably don't have UE, unless they're 5 star or Prifes then maybe, but I have like 7 of those UE orbs and good stash of those orbs you trade for shards if needed
-dungeon coin units can probably be six starred if it's helpful, I just haven't yet
-screenshots are old, so also have Overload Peco and Pirate Shinobu, not that they are game changers

[river summit]

Any more chars or are those all with opeco and pshino?

[ripe wren]

those are all

[manic spire]

What level are you?

[river summit]

298 it seems

[manic spire]

This is doable, yes
I can help you make some teams in a few hours

[ripe wren]

Yeah 298, max current rank. Some units are +10 level cap but not many

[manic spire]

[manic spire]

Hi hi @ripe wren
Sorry for the delay

I'm gonna make you some teams now
If something doesn't work feel free to ping me

First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

Boss mechanics

[manic spire]

Assume all units want UE unlocked at minimum

Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Break All Targets
SMimi
Lnozo
Croce
CTamaki
SShinobu

Mode 1 Team 2
Goal: Clear Mode 1
WMatsuri
PTInori
AHiyori
NYPeco
SNozomi

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill Front Boss
Creditta
Djeeta
XSaren
Misato
EXAyane

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Clear Mode
Yukari (For Barrier)
Peco
SaSaren
SFYuni
Christina

Mode 3 Team 1
Goal: Nuke Boss
Misora
Ames
Neneka
Lairael
Cilya

Mode 3 Team 2
Goal: Kill Boss
SNeneka
Ames (Borrow)
AYui
TSKyaru
XPeco

Team 3 if Needed
Yui
STamaki (With UE2 Unlocked)
SYukari
Lmuimi
SEriko

Try these
You're a bit light on healers so I had to improvise, but at max level you should be ok

[ripe wren]

Thank you! I'm giving it a try.

Right now it seems like Mode 2 Team 1 doesn't quite have enough oompf to kill the front boss in one go. It has like 30% left.

[manic spire]

I was slightly worried about that
Lemme try a magic version

Oh, actually
I missed that you have NYSheffy
Try again with this
Creditta
Djeeta
XSaren
Misato
NYSheffy
And see how it does
also gonna adjust the last 2 teams cause I noticed another unit I missed

[ripe wren]

I also got Ceremonial Kokkoro from the dream summon ticket today if that makes any difference

[manic spire]

Probably not in this case
mostly need multi target here
If this still fails I have an idea for a mage version

[manic spire]

Misato CAN be really any healer
I just don't really see a better healer/buffer and I don't think you can go without one

[ripe wren]

NYSheffy helped a bit but still not quite enough oomph

[manic spire]

ok
XSaren
SRanpha
EXmaho
WDjeeta
Kokkoro

Give that a try
And worst case you canuse both teams if needed, just by swapping out the XSaren in 1 team with nozomi

[ripe wren]

@manic spire It is beaten

I had to sacrifice a couple of fodder teams on earlier modes since my teams were a bit weak, but Mode 3 Team 1 did really well and probably could have 1pan'd if they were a little stronger and didn't start dying around 20 seconds remaining. Mode 3 Team 2 finished up easily, so didn't need Team 3.

Thanks a lot for your help, it wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be but I probably would've never been able to find decent team builds on my own since I barely know what I'm doing.

Now just EX6, which I'm more reluctant about since I see people using a shitload of teams.

[manic spire]

Happy to help
I think if you focus on getting a few more 6* and spend some DA on units to 5* EX6 is very doable

6* ing maybe Monika, Tomo, Shiori
And picking up Laby next time you get the chance

[ripe wren]

OK, I will try to prioritize those! And yeah, I need Laby, and PKokkoro. I see too many team builds that use them.

[floral vault]

I need some help from the 🐐 @manic spire (whenever you get the chance Ik you’re a busy person)

[floral vault]

This is the box 😔 it’s a bit rough

I think idk tbh

[manic spire]

I appreciate you think I'm a busy person
I'll take a look

So you just sparked Eris I see
Box looks fine
Though a bit light on Multi Target

How far into that spark are you?
Cause a Neneka would go a long way here

Actually, if you don't mind
What borrows do you have available?
This might be a "borrow on mode 1" situation

[floral vault]

I actually sparked pkoko just cause how important I felt like she is on any team

[floral vault]

There is neneka in the borrows

[manic spire]

Who else in the borrows?
Gives me more to work with if you can send a pic of what is available

[floral vault]

[manic spire]

Alright, time to cook

I think maybe a PRei is the borrow because otherwise mode 1 will be pain

I'll be back in a bit with some teams
Gonna make you 6 teams
As mentioned Multi Target is a bit light, but if you get past mode 1 I think it's smooth sailing

[floral vault]

I appreciate u

[manic spire]

ok, so
Lately I've been building teams based on elements
If it doesn't work though can fall back on standard teams
Assume units at least have their UE unlocked

Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Break All the targets
PRei (Borrow the level 272)
EXAyane
PKokkoro
Labyrista
Yuni

Mode 1 Team 2
Goal: Kill Mode 1
Sheffy
Rei
CMonika
PTInori
PHiyori

This mode does no damage or UBs if your damage is high enough
So the idea is to do a 5 dps team of some of the less synergistic units to clear it
Cmonika is here because she is a very good buffer, but only if she isn't hit

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill Front Goblin
XJun
Shiori
XRino
RShiori
Yui

This is the team I'm most worried about
You need a mix of multi target and single target because when you hit the mage it damages and debuffs the front boss
If this doesn't work we can try mage
Tried to build this as a Range team to maximize synergy, Rkokko might be useful here but I'm unsure if there's room

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Kill the Mage
SChika
Jun
Djeeta
Shizuru/Rino
LMuimi

This mode needs a strong mage barrier to resist the goblin aoe at 50% health, that's what Chika is here for
Otherwise just single target dps

Mode 3 Team 1
Goal: Chunk the boss
Misora
Eris
PKyaru
WDjeeta
NKuuka

Haven't used Ames yet so not sure how we'll she'll do
But this is a Mono dark team and Misora already chunks the boss
If Eris can't heal well enough alone can try to add another healer

Mode 3 Team 2
Goal: Kill the boss
Ames
Lairael
Monika
NIo
Vampy

Throwing the rest of the mages in here
NIo is for TP drain to delay UBs
Monika is the speed buffer
With ames you should be tough enough to not need a tank

If a 3rd team is needed
Precia
Riri
Eriko
SRuka
OPeco

Running low on healers at this point, ideally you would save Yui for this mode, but there are no other speed buffers for mode 2 team 1
Though if you make it this far a lot of the time it becomes throw bodies until you win
SRuka again for TP drain

Good luck

[terse inlet]

How long have you been team building for ex5? lol

[cobalt radish]

at least 2-3 months prob a lot more

[floral vault]

Thanks to the goat aka Kaede we have done EX I scuffed it up a bit but we did it in the 7 teams with relatively no issue

[cobalt radish]

professor kaede does it again

[floral vault]

A miracle worker fr

[manic spire]

I mean, I've been helping my clan slowly for like a year

In here I've helped like 10 people?

[manic spire]

[royal lotus]

I feel like I'm close to having the necessary means to beat it, but I'm missing a few key characters that would help, and I'm not even level 220 yet

[royal lotus]

I just made it to Mode 3 and probably used a few units I could have saved, or saved some that could have been useful sooner (laby whyyy)

Someone think it's possible to beat with these even at my chronically low level?

[rustic scroll]

Please help for good line up.

[rustic scroll]

Nvm just cleared it.

[lethal tulip]

I managed to defeat using 6 pan lol. I was just trying to test.

[royal lotus]

My petty journey

[manic spire]

Been a bit busy
Sorry I couldn't help, but grats!

[manic spire]

I can help with some teams in like 5 hours if you want

I think you can, yes

[royal lotus]

you congratulated me then offered help to clear it lmao, but thanks for the offer

[manic spire]

I can read names, I swear

Congrats

[summer harness]

[lethal tulip]

[flint mountain]

Maybe someone need

[jade sage]

3 team clear if anyone's interested

[torn siren]

1 team ?

[rustic scroll]

Around 4-5 teams.

[torn siren]

Can you show me please?

[manic spire]

If you want hands on help post your box and I can help

[sick oyster]

Can someone help me with the team comps

[manic spire]

🫳

That is to say, yes
Lemme know your box

[sick oyster]

Eh i sent them the same time as the above msg

Wait let me sent them again

Btw is it possible to beat ex5 below lvl 200?

[cobalt radish]

i wouldn't put it past kaede

also for boxes in the future post like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413818124136087573/1213047411186868274/box_show.gif

[manic spire]

With elements, it probably is
No harm in trying really

[sick oyster]

Ic will do it like that in the future

[manic spire]

Although, important question
What rank are all your units?
I see that they're blue, but are they R31?

[sick oyster]

No

Few of them are 31

The rest 30

[manic spire]

[sick oyster]

Rank bonus ones are 31 ithink

Also, muimi gonna be 6 in 2 days kinda waiting for that sphere thingys

[manic spire]

Ok, I'll put together some teams for you
Syncing everyone to rank bonus would really help though
So if fail to do it now, I would aim for that and try again

Here are the boss mechanics

First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

Will be back in 15 or 20 mins with some teams

[sick oyster]

Thanks

[manic spire]

So you have a great box for this
I do worry that you might be a bit underleveled though and/or missing a few 6*

Normally I would go Croce for mode 1, but best to use every part of your box so gonna go PRei for mode 1 and use Croce on mode 2

[manic spire]

Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Break the Targets
PRei
CMaho
CTamaki
Kokkoro 6
EXAyane

You might need a proper tank at your level
If so swap out EXAyane

Mode 1 Team 2
Goal: Clear the mode
CMonika
Muimi (even at 5*)
NYPeco
PHiyori
CMakoto

This mode will not attack if your damage is high enough so unload dps that don't have another place to go

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill the front Goblin
Croce
Laby
XJun
LNozomi
Yui

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Kill the Mage
SYukari
Yukari 6
WYuni
Djeeta
Shizuru/Rino

Need a strong magic barrier here to survive enrage
SChika is better but Yukari does the trick, but added another support in WYuni to keep healing up
Because no SChika you only have 1 real team to finish this mode so have to do it in 1

Mode 3 Team 1
Goal: Chunk the boss
Eris
PKyaru
NKuuka
SNeneka
SKyouka

Mode 3 Team 2
Goal: Kill the boss
Ames
Lairael
AYui
Neneka
NYHatsune

I think you probably will need a 7th team (and maybe a few more in between)
But you have the units for them, so it should be doable
The limiting factor is going to be your number of healers

Extra Mode 3 Team:
PHiyori
StKurumi
Ames (Borrow)
WMatsuri
RShiori

If you find you just can't do it
I would

1. Get everyone to rank bonus
2. Get Muimi 6 (And ideally Shiori 6 and/or Tomo 6)
3. Get just a few more levels

Your box is... pretty darn good though, so I wouldn't put it past you to clear it now

[sick oyster]

Thanks for your kind and patient explanation

Will try my best to clear it

Sry i was doing some chores around the house and finally have time to read your msg

Then let me do it first and will report u the result

[manic spire]

[sick oyster]

Btw Nkuuka is this one right?

[manic spire]

Yeah

All units mentioned should at least have UE unlocked if possible

[sick oyster]

Oki i will unlock them

Maybe i am still underlevel and couldn’t even break the MTs

[manic spire]

That might be the case
You can try swapping EXAyane for Labyrista and see how that does

[sick oyster]

Roger

[royal lotus]

Messed around with a 1 team Mode 1 comp that worked for me

[cursive frost]

Cleared with 3 teams, 1 team for each mode.

For the last team, can also sub in GreAnne instead of Lyrael.

SET on - AUTO on - Normal 1x Speed (can probably 2x speed if you have big ball dmg)

Video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXTDcm16Q0

[sick oyster]

Still can’t break all the targets

[sick oyster]

What should i do to break all the MT?

[lethal tulip]

All UE unlock or not?

[drifting maple]

some of those units do need UE unlock to be good
prob need more UE level/EX gear

[night void]

Anyone wanna makes ex5 team comps for me?

[manic spire]

I can in... 12 hours

[manic spire]

Hi hi hello
I can make you teams now

Sorry for the delay

1 question
Do you have borrows available?
I think that will help

[night void]

Mb for not responding

I have a horrid sleep schedule and I slept the entire day, yesterday

I'm gonna log in, now

I can also ask my guild to put someone else up

[manic spire]

No worries
Time zones and all that so for all I know you're in Australia

[night void]

I'm in the us

horrid schedule

I slept like 27 hours

[manic spire]

Ok, so
If you can ask a guild mate to get a Croce on loan this will be a lot easier

[manic spire]

Jealous

[night void]

What's on lian mean

[manic spire]

You have good units
But are missing a few multi target

[night void]

Ah

[manic spire]

It's a typo of on loan

[night void]

Alright

[manic spire]

with my fat fingers

[night void]

[manic spire]

I'm gonna make some teams now
If you can't get a Croce on loan no worries, should still be doable
But I'll make teams assuming you can

[night void]

Alright

[manic spire]

Here are the boss mechanics
First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

[night void]

I see

This is the support croce, btw. Are usable dungeon supports restricted by level?

I feel like they were, but I can't remember

[manic spire]

They are, but the upper limit is 30 levels

[night void]

Ah

[manic spire]

And you're less than 30 to max

[gritty lichen]

oo

🥖

so Bob needs 3 more lvls to borrow my Croce

my creditta is not LB if that can help (can set her clan sup since you don't have creditta)

[manic spire]

Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Kill Boss
LNozo
NYMisato
Croce (Borrow)
Labyrista
CMaho

If this doesn't kill mode 1 it's ok, but it makes things a bit easier
Croce is the ideal borrow here because you don't have a ton of multi target and EX5 uses at least 2 multi target teams

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill The Front Boss
SFYuni
PAnna
SKasumi
SNeneka
PKokko

Going for a slightly unusual mage team here to maximize the elment synergy
Pkokko is your tank and healer

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Clear the mode
SChika
PPeco
Djeeta
LMuimi
CMakoto (Honestly can be any dps)

You need sChika to survive the mage bomb
Otherwise it's just single target DPS with light element synergy

Mode 3 Team 1
Goal: Chunk the boss
Eris
Misora
PKyaru
SMisaki
Neneka

Misora destroys the boss
usually Ames is in this slot, but Eris has better synergy and is probably fine

Mode 3 Team 2
Goal: Kill the boss
Skokko
Shiori
Jun
XMiyako
Sheffy

If a 3rd team is needed
Ames
Homare
OYuki
NIo (For TP Drain)
Ranpha

[manic spire]

He can borrow Croce, No?
284 +30 levels is 314

[gritty lichen]

oh

yeah

[manic spire]

Here are my teams
You have A LOT of wiggle room though tbh
Being almost max level and having a bunch of extra units

I'd say for you the onl hard part is the 1st 2 teams
If yo end up needing more teams at the end you have lots of healers and dps
Just not a ton of multi target for mode 1 and 2.5

[night void]

Math

[gritty lichen]

at first I thought you were few lvls short and then brein forgor after I checked your lvl was 284

[manic spire]

Oh yeah, and for team 1
Set everyone except CMaho and auto on

You want maho to use her tp skill and not interrupt

[night void]

I see

[manic spire]

Good luck
And feel free to @ me if you need more help
I'm in your timezone (though maybe not your sleep schedule )

[gritty lichen]

if you planning on doing ex6 too then I can stay in your clan for another day and lend some support

[night void]

Is this cmaho?

[manic spire]

yeah

[night void]

Thx

[manic spire]

She's really good here because
She buffs front most unit
and gives them tp

And Croce is tanky enough to, well, tank and is also your main dps

Before elements it would be PRei in place of Croce, but same principle
Make her buff and full of tp

[night void]

Not quite enough dmg

Ig I'll put some random units in

[manic spire]

Yeah, at this point it's Single Target, this is half expected and fine tbh

[gritty lichen]

you made sure to equip ex gears on all your units right?

[night void]

Akino and riri should be good enough, right?

[night void]

Uhhh

[manic spire]

the boss will not ub if dps is high enough
Maybe
CMonika
CYukari
WMifuyu
WTamaki
CRima

Just some random low star dps plus cmonika

[manic spire]

or this

[gritty lichen]

the 45s 20% p.atk buff or 90s S bonk buff are some gud ex gears you can shift over used chars ex gears to next units too

[night void]

Which units are the c prefix?

[manic spire]

I should have mentioned EX gears yah

Cafe monika the 3*

[night void]

Ah

[manic spire]

Camp Yukari the 3*

[night void]

I see

[manic spire]

Cinderella Rima the 2*

[night void]

W is worker, right?

[manic spire]

yeah

These are just random dps that are honestly not gonna be used anywhere else

And only need a little damage

[night void]

Them?

Why did my keyboard autocorrect them to then

[manic spire]

Yeah, see how it goes
If they start dying exit out

But you only need to clear the mode

[night void]

Cleared and took 3% off front boss of mode 2

[manic spire]

Sounds good

[gritty lichen]

📈

[manic spire]

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill The Front Boss
SFYuni
PAnna
SKasumi
SNeneka
PKokko

This is the somewhat sketchy team
If it doesn't kill I would back out

[night void]

Is everyone from now on all set?

[manic spire]

But PAnna should be fine
make sure she has UE

[manic spire]

yah

[night void]

Cool

No ue

1/50 shards

[manic spire]

Well, give it a try as is

[night void]

Alright

[gritty lichen]

it's only 87 da if you haven't bought her shards

[manic spire]

You can always back out as long as not everyone is dead and time is remaining

for no penalty

[night void]

Actually, should sf yuni be off set?

[manic spire]

It shouldn't matter too much

[night void]

I see

[manic spire]

She's mostly there for speed

[night void]

Is Anna supposed to die around 50 seconds?

[manic spire]

Pkokkoro

Not summer

[night void]

Oh

Wait

I'm f*cking stupid

Anna dies at about 1:00 left

[manic spire]

Let's try Monika here in place of SFYuni

[manic spire]

iirc monika sits in front of PAnna

[night void]

Anna dies again

At about 1:00 left

No

[manic spire]

With Monika?

[night void]

Monika is behind her

[manic spire]

ah, my bad

1 sec

PAnna is awkward but is a mt dps

[night void]

Should I just get her ue?

What's mt?

[manic spire]

Just switch to a straight up tank then
PAnna
SKasumi
Sneneka
PKokkoro
Jun6 (Literally just fror the speed boost, I know she's more phys)

[manic spire]

]multi target

Her ue will help damage but not survivability

If she's dying at 1:00 no healer besides Ames is gonna save her
And this mode needs both multi target and single target units

Anna is your multi target to hit the mage
Sneneka is your single target to actually kill the front boss

[night void]

I see

[manic spire]

If this doesn't quite kill we can work from there
but the start is finding a team for you that keeps everyone alive

[manic spire]

welp
time to brew
Swap Skasumi for Homare
and unlock PAnna ue if you can

[night void]

Got her ue

[gritty lichen]

[manic spire]

Might have to try 2 teams instead of 1 then

See how much damage
Rino 6
Shiori
Yui 6
Riri
XSaren

Does

Ideally in this mode you would do a phys team to start with
With Tomo 6 or Hatsushio, etc.

[night void]

Xsaren dies at 1:06 left

Oh, I don't have her ue

Lemme get some mana, first lol

I have enough shards

Saren giving the boss a kiss as it ubs her

[manic spire]

ok, it's a bit scuffed
But this plus this
Should work well enough... I think

You can try subbing Riri out for XRino if you want

See if that gives better than 50% on the front boss

[night void]

Woah, xsaren dies at 1:06 when I switch out riri for xrino

@manic spire

[manic spire]

Riri clones are eating UBs then
I would just run it with Riri then
You can try swapping in a tougher tank than XSaren if you wanted to try XRini again though
Like Nozomi

Might lose some damage though, not sure

[night void]

Nozomi dies at 1:05 wtf

Crazy

[gritty lichen]

[manic spire]

Yabai

That's unusual

I would just go with the Riri team and then the Jun/PAnna team

It might leave like 6%
But that's manageable

[gritty lichen]

hopium

[night void]

Did a little bit of mana farming to ring rino and I also got skasumi's ue

The units are level 300/290, now

Skill levels aren't quite there

But their actual levels are 300/290

@manic spire

[manic spire]

Oh yah, Skasu ue is good

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Clear the mode
SChika
PPeco
Djeeta
LMuimi
CMakoto (Honestly can be any dps)

Time for this team

[night void]

I also got cmakoto's ue, since I had enough shards

@manic spire

Oh, beat at 5 seconds left

Thx

Does skipping ex5 or doing ex6 mobs give more coins?

Also, wanna make a ex6 team for me?

Since, I still have today's dungeon attempt

[manic spire]

Skipping ex6 gives more

Unfortunately I'm not great at ex6
But ask @wooden gate or @fair fulcrum and they can help

[manic spire]

yeah, I knew this part would be cake

It was the early bit that was hard for your box
Grats

[night void]

Should I reping them in the ex6 thread or should I just wait?

[fair fulcrum]

Oh i made a new one for that

[night void]

?

A new ex6 thread?

For me?

[fair fulcrum]

Dungeon drops

And yes ex6 without boss better than ex5 skip

[night void]

I see

[fair fulcrum]

And ex6 teams. Well im about to go sleep

[night void]

I see

Ig I'll just ping kyari in ex6 thread

[fair fulcrum]

When can you r31 your girls?

[night void]

They are r32, already

[fair fulcrum]

Oh i saw orange and thought they are below

Wait wtf

You got 0 MT girls?

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Hmm yeah. Mt is the easiest to deal dmg. But ill let kyrari cook. You can also ask shizurunakatsu. Hes also ex6 pro

[manic spire]

That's why we ended up using OG Rino on EX5

[night void]

I mean, I have smimi

[fair fulcrum]

Could have at least waited for ue2

But yeah. I really haven't done ex6 since elements. Idk how easy it has become.

[tranquil magnet]

do you want me to post the screenshots here again?

im off to bed soon tho, 2 am
did my run for today so you have some time to make teams

[manic spire]

Sure, that works

I'm East Coast NA so will make you some teams before bed here

[manic spire]

Here are the boss mechanics
First
TL;DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race

Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead

When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier

Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams

Gonna make you 7 teams
You might only need 5-6
But being safe

Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Break All the Targets
PRei (With ue)
Labyrista
HatsuShio (With ue)
CTama
Yuni

Usually I would use Croce here, but looking at your box better to save her for Mode 2

Mode 1 Team 2
Goal: Kill the boss
CMonika
Precia
Quria
OPeco
WMifuyu

This mode will not do any damage if dps is high enough
So just use a bunch of less good dps with CMonika buffer
If the boss UBs quit and retool the team

Mode 2 Team 1
Goal: Kill the Front Goblin
XJun
Croce
WYuni
XCreditta
TSuzuna

This team isn't perfect... ideally there would be more element synergy
But I think this spreads the multi Target out between mode 1 and 2 well enough

Mode 2 Team 2
Goal: Clear the mode
SChika
Christina
AHiyori
SYukari
LMuimi

You need SChika here to barrier the mage's enrage

Mode 3 Team 1
Goal: Chunk the boss
Eris
Pkyaru
NKuuka
Homare
Vampy

If at all possible, replace Homare with a borrowed Misora
Misora destroys this mode

Mode 3 team 2
Goal: Kill the boss
Ames
Lairael
OYuki
NIo
Neneka

NIo is for tp drain, this lets you love longer because 3 boss UBs = dead

If a 7th team is needed
...I'm actually struggling to make a 7th team
I do think you can do it in 6 though

If you need help feel free to ping me tho, and good luck!

[tranquil magnet]

holy cow thats alot

but aight lets do this

so for mode 1 team 1 when you say with ue

just ue or any specific level on it?

i hope ue 30 is good enough cuz getting prei and hatsushio to 5 stars drained my amulets quite alot

ctama is this?

and for yuni regular yuni?

[manic spire]

Yeah, by ue I mean have it unlocked

That's the important part

[tranquil magnet]

pewh good

[manic spire]

And yeah, base yuni

[tranquil magnet]

3 star tamaki good enough?

[manic spire]

She's not ideal here... but we make due
If you don't hit the goal I listed before time is up
quit out and we can tweak the team

Also don't for EX equips

[manic spire]

yeah

[tranquil magnet]

rip

shes 4 star tho

could buy 5 star theres not much shards left

massive dmg tho i think, hp dropped fast

welp nvm 5 star didnt help

if i let this play out it looks like this

[manic spire]

Yeah, ok
Rip Yuni

I mean you basically cleared it without her

[tranquil magnet]

lets see what i could borrow

not much due to level sadly but lets see

[manic spire]

I would save borrow for mode 3

[tranquil magnet]

christina

oh djeeta

add djeeta?

[manic spire]

Nah, save for mode 2 and 3

Remember the goal isn't to kill

Just to break all the targets

[tranquil magnet]

but i didnt break all

[manic spire]

I would replace Yuni with a phys support not on another team

Just one that will survive

You're real close to breaking them all at the damage

Did you post your box here? idr

[tranquil magnet]

nah in #jp-questions

#jp-questions message

[manic spire]

Swap Yuni for... Work Aoi?

See how that does

I gotta go for like 10 mins but will be back

[tranquil magnet]

not quite

not even with a borrowed djeeta

meh, tried some other units but no success so far

[manic spire]

Back

Are you using EX Equips?

Also, can you show a screenshot of the boss itself?

When you get near the end

[manic spire]

Yeah ok, that's fine
Just making sure you're using them

[manic spire]

So that is all targets broken

[tranquil magnet]

oh

lmao

[manic spire]

You're all set for team 2

[tranquil magnet]

i thought you wanted me to nuke that hp bar

[manic spire]

Nah nah
that's why it's mode 1 team 1 and 2

[tranquil magnet]

so let this play out?

[manic spire]

yeah, sure

Onto team 2

[tranquil magnet]

lmao

[manic spire]

Which is just a dps race

Yeah, so
The teams I made
Plan to use 2 teams per hp bar/mode

This next one should be the simplest mode
Just need to single target
Amd if dps is good the boss will not attack

[tranquil magnet]

WMifuyu first or second?

[manic spire]

2nd

[tranquil magnet]

aight ded

got a bit dmg in

wyuni is the new yuni right

[manic spire]

Looks good

yeah

[tranquil magnet]

filter cant find her

kk

[manic spire]

ゆ

the water one

[tranquil magnet]

Tsuzuna?