#EX5 Dungeon
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I think it did around 120m and we finished it with Phiyori and event units
120m is too high LOL
not sure have to check again
Do they play on dmm
sometimes yes
are you by chance with american timezone?
think it should be almost 12 by now where he is at
12 57 here
Ok
just wanted to fuck around w/ ex5 and revisit it today
O = set
X = unset
mode1 OOXOO 148.2m 1pan, times out at start of mode 2
mode2 OOOOO 82.2m
mode3 XOOOO 36.1m (clears mode 2) + XXOOO 55.7m 2pan
Who should I reserve for Mode 1?
It seems easier to build comps for Modes 2 and 3 than 1 cos of multitarget
Mode1 is easier to build tho 
I dont think I have enough MT units to work with
I mean, my PRei comp still cant hit 80% of Mode 1
EX5 9 pan level 247
Hello plz elp
mode 1 could try labyrista akisaren prei muimi croce
assume i finished mode 1. any ideas for mode 2?
Is there anything better for mode1?
Q_Q I'm looking through all those builds and I'm always missing key chars, or haven't leveled them yet (I'm out of mana)
Phys AoE - 100 -> 5% mode 1
Chris 1 -> end of mode 1 (30s) + first monster of mode 2 killed
Chris 2 -> 17% of 2nd boss (mode 2)
Mage 1 -> end mode mode 2 (30s) + 50% mode 3
Mage 2 -> 50 -> 30% (start of let's go bullshit comps)

bring multitarget attackers for mode 1, that mode has a lot of hp so you want to blow through it fast
mode 2 has two different sub-bosses you gotta fight as well, tomo 6* is usually used here alongside strong singletarget attackers like christina djeeta etc, it might take you 2-3 hits to clear depending on your box and lvl, gear etc
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Ok thanks!
I do have 6* tomo and Chris/djeeta
Not sure if I shld wait till I can get STama up tho Hm
Do I use Laby on mode1?
you can yea
Misora's good here right? What team is she best with?
misora needs a lot of tp support
Inchresting thank you

I don't have Hyaru, can Cillya sub?
I have Lyrael too if she helps
c.ilya can work too yes
i only start using magic teams on mode 3 nowadays
Late but akinosaren should be in auto not set 
I add Lyrael and S. Neneka on the 6th comp, it looks like Lyrael can deal soo much damage with her debuff to the goblin king with the help of Greanne

Did you not finish it?

Seeking help for mode 2 & 3: is skkr hard required for Chris + Djeeta team survival (any replacement)? And for mode 3, whatās some good comp to beat to 30+% and ideally finish off remaining with 1-2pan?
My box here, units that are not built but worth mentioning are cYuki wAoi Riri nyMisato Ranpha
You can do karin alch or princess kokkoro and do manual tomo for the moment that she dies
You only need her to be full hp when she gets hit by the goblin ub
So you can manual that to ub for healing instead of using ub at full hp
Iirc you need to do it only once
Nymisato can also be useful for either mode2 or mode1
level 244 6 pan. missing a lot of key characters like akisaren, tomo6, sfyuni, stmisaki, illya6, croce, etc
didnāt need to throw any teams and no manual needed
mode 2 team borrowed a level 255 tomo6
Lv250 5pan, nothing too original, all variations based on previous posts: (need to borrow Chris)
Team1 all SET except AkiSaren; team2 all SET (need to manual one time on xJun UB); team3 Chris and aKarin SET; team4 & team5 all SET
Level 255, borrowed Christina, 5 Pan
was able to reduce the number of main teams needed from like 7 to 5 with the help of creditta š³
- croce in 1st team
Any teams that I can use that don't include Christina, Muimi, Neneka, Croche, and/or Misora?
Any possible replacement for Aki-Saren and P.Kokkoro
AkiSaren and pKkr are both phys buff, heal and tp, so anyone with similar function can replace them
Cleared at level 247 with 5 teams, borrowed Muimi for the first team's empty slot
any replacement for NYMisato
Maybe Creditta?
Cafe tamaki
Not sure if you need the healing from nymisato to survive, but Creditta and Ctamaki also have defensive skills
I used this team at start and brought the boss down to 100m
how is this even possible for ppl below lvl 250 finishing it in 5 teams, when I just reached max level and ran through ALL chars and boss has still has over 25m hp
any team recommendations?
Ilya 6 can solo mode 1
gotta farm more illya shards
doesnt need illya no more
Generic 6pan, no borrow, all set
goes to see what I need to beat this one
Neneka
Welp, I'll be here all year then.
Help~ left this hp and my available char 
ohhhh enrage mode now gl
youāll likely want ayori on the team to start off
for tp drain
wdjeeta cilya can be slotted too i reckon
pkkr
or oyuki in place of cilya
gonna be hard that why you save ur 1pan team for the last
Took inspiration from your setup to clear it myself, thanks!!! I am max level but I was still cutting it close
@indigo ember here

do you kill the boss with first team?
I need help with this stage, can anyone help?
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4pan
I dont have some of the units
for which part
Heyo, can anyone kindly help me build some teams for ex5? Iāve looked at so many guides (including the video linked above) and Iām always missing enough units that it causes me to be unable to beat the boss at the end.
thank you so much! Hereās what I have (also have explorer Maho powered up after these screenshots were taken):
So u tried fill the holes with other units and boss was low hp in the end still
May i ask how far ur to have karin?
yeah I did but I'm continuing to try still, maybe I'll find that optimal combo for me lol
and 900 shards and 190m mana left still :') getting there... I keep running out of mana
If no one manage to help u i will do it in an hour, not home atm
no worries I'm in no rush I can't make another attempt till reset anyway T_T thank youuu either way
Is Karin must for EX5?
Not an absolute must, but it's going to be hard as heck without her
There aren't too many units that can replace her
Ameth and SFYuni might be the closest
Crap... well EX5 is gonna be still ways off š
Still thank you š
CLEAR WITHOUT NEW META UNIT (No christina, robot girl, lyrael, sneneka, Lnozo , cillya and cmaho) Please do some effort to build 6* illya, Tomo, Muimi and Shiori (These 4 units make HUGE difference, so build them up for EX5) Christina too if u have her. i dont have her. so i focus build 6* shiori. shes as good as christina in terms of DAMAGE (Chris still better than shiori, dont misunderstood)
- borrowed Ranpha on M3,
- u can change Precia with any dps on M2 leftover ( i use Precia just for fun, i know Eriko will carry it. so yeah just random dps would help eriko a lil bit)
- if u have christina, change with Shiori 6* , it should be fine and easy.
6 pan, but if u have some leftover hp .. should be fine with random bs team .. bcs goblin will be left with only 1mil hp at least.
Btw i already unlock Karin on level 240. and i already collect her shards in Master coins shop from some event and they gift 10k master coins before in mail. so yeah.. instant 3* after unlock her. i think u can replace her with SF Yuni. maybe.
lvl 258, 5-pan, all set for all pans. Just let the girls run and watch the show. All units are 30-6.
I had to borrow muimi for 1st comp because I don't have her.
- First comp should bring you to mode 2 just nice.
- Second comp kills front goblin and bring second goblin's hp down to about 40%
- Third comp will carry you to mode 3 and bring the boss's hp to about 75M
- Fourth comp brings boss's hp down to below 30M
- Fifth comp finishes the job with time to spare. Though wdjeeta and stmisaki dies when boss hp is down to last 5M. Still winnable. Stmisaki is 4*, she may survive if 5 star
(asked again in #jp-questions )
Ah yes. The woes of a Triple Neneka non-haver.
As well as most of the actually useful prifest units(except Ameth and P. Kyaru since I sparked for both).
Inspired in the above set up. Level 252, all set. Blue frame units with 30-0 to get the bonus rank up stats. The clean teams made with the rest of my units available.
PHASE 1
- 1st team do the most in phase 1.
- 2nd team clean the last HP of the first orc.
PHASE 2 - 3rd team reduced axe orc to 6% and mage orc to 68% HP.
- 4th team clean the axe orc.
- 5th team beat mage orc and damage a little to phase 3 orc.
PHASE 3 - 6th team reduced a lot phase 3 until 12M HP.
- 7th team almost beat it until 900K HP (Another magic unit in place of sSuzuna would be better to defeat it here).
- Used any other character to clean the rest of HP.
worked for me but changed some units since I didn't have some
- First comp I had muimi
- Second comp I used P Rei cause didn't have 6* Shiori
- Third Comp used Vikala instead of P Kkr
4th and 5th comp stayed the same. All set, lvl 255 and 30-6
Please elp me
Level 254 - 5 Pan Clear Comp 
Managed to 6-Pan @ level 242
Last party literally only have to shave off 500k HP so a single christina support is enough 
I'll come back here once I have at least one Neneka and Christina.
2 of the units in team6 is used in team3, how does it work?
I dont really remember the last team 
They only need to deal 500k anyway, so support christina just seals the deal herself. That last party i must've just slapped anything so chris doesn't have to facetank
think this enough to start to complete this dungeon?
Is this enough to clear?
That should be enough since you have a good mix of units there
The only thing is to make sure you save your strongest teams for mode 3 since it takes awhile good luck
You need to 5* or 6* some of those meta units my guy
3* Pyaru, Christina, Neneka, etc. isn't gonna do squat in this dungeon
the time for saving has ended eh
It's time to spend
Level 276 and I still can't beat EX5...
What am I doing wrong aside from being Neneka-less?
bruh, im 291 and still haven't completed it
lmao the 6x exp is too op
lvl 291 4 pan
2nd team xxooo auto on, rest all are full set, 4th team copium can use whatever to clean
(make sure to use tp steal though)
note: I pre-charged tp of 1st 3 teams and ex gear used was 90s smol atk boost ones
I simply copied teams used by monika's va in her recent stream and change it a tiny bit 
im on max lv,still can clear it
prob bc it's more bout which units have been maxed/ranked up

replacement for sasaren and lnozo?
if you hab o.peco or o.peco borrow and l.muimi/mako6/vikala(any gud dps/shred+dps) can use them
if your tomo able to survive front you don't need to borrow o.peco
in my case with full ex gear she barely survived
idk if p.peco could work as alternative you can try 
p.peco instead of o.peco

tomo is needed
or just try any tank instead of o.peco/p.peco
Who would possibly be a good replacement for Akino&Saren?
any def shred, st/aoe dps or phy buffer can work ig, can try a 6* mako/s.mimi/vikala/l.muimi else if the boss doesn't die on using a random unit instead of akisaren can just throw tank units because boss kills itself with 500k dmg per tick over time (in mode 1 only) after you deal 7m total dmg before 0:40 
I have 6* mako and vikala. I'll try them out in a bit. Thank!
ah noice
dumb question, are teams precharged like ex6 or do i have to precharge tp on previous flooors?
ex5 no auto pre-charge for boss, so you'll have to charge you're teams before you face the boss
thank you
What kinds of comps should I use for the different modes? Still took me 20+ characters just to pass Mode 1 and by then the strongest ones have been used.
I don't know how you guys are 1panning Mode 1 when I need at least 5.
Oh, right. N E N E K A
Neneka rentals just ain't cutting iit.
Today's run was worse. Used up half of my raised characters just to get past Mode 1.
post what units u have , and how they are equipped , if u miss alot core units it will be hard to help
and already farm Tomo shards , when i remember correct she is needed in Ex 5 and Ex 6 , and maybe also in Ex7 when it releases
Oh yeah this should be possible. Are you max lvl?
Yes
Aight if no one answers ill take a look after i cooked some food
Ty
almost done
All max gold ex gear(the 90s ones)
Also pre tp charges those girls in the battle before
Mode 2 is close. My s.tama is max max UE's. Might need a second team there, and ofc laby is from support
ee thank you
I fell asleep
so for mode 2 is just knocking 2 units in front first right?
can only knock one of them out
also I don't have Muimi
Oh yeah sorry didn't see that
Can you 6 star your djeeta? That one would help
Amd yes mode 2 just the 2 front goblins need to die. I can try it again later without muimi
Maybe try aki/saren instead of her /or djeeta if 6 star
Mode 2.
Rest stays the same.
Just use something else then p.kok to clean up mode 3.(kuuka/s.saren/pudding.. something to tank)
Just use my DAs now I guess?
Lmuimi i good anyways and will get her ue in march?
So if you got spare just use it
Or wait and farm djeeta. She should work aswell
Will try then
A little help here i need team comps for EX5
is NYNNK absolutely essential for clearing EX5?
i'm planning to roll for her but i don't have her atm.
you're missing a lot of essential units
basically, just 6* chris and muimi first
and makoto too since you have her
and you also need tomo 6*
without those units, i don't think you'll pass the first mode
not really
as long as you have def shredder and good aoe dps it'll be fine
scroll up, you'll see someone 4 panning it
Thanks for your help
just take your time raising the units
if you need reference, you can scroll up
someone managed to 4 pan it
this should be good enuf for the boss right
you can try, i guess
LVL248 Full Set 5Pan. Wasnāt a close call. Most units were R28+
Battle 1: Muimi6, Croce5, PKokkoro4, Labyrista5, Creditta4.
Battle 2-1: Tomo6, (Ensure ranked so front UB doesnāt kill) Christina6, NYMisato3, LNozo4, Shiori6.
Battle 2.2: Use any supplement team to push over if you canāt make it. Can use Makoto6, LMuimi3, SKokkoro6, Sheffy6, and SChika3 like I did. Doesnāt matter.
Battle 3-1: CIllya3, (At this level, she will die near the end) SNeneka5, Lyrael5, (Borrowed) PKyaru5, Karin3.
Battle 3.2: AnneGrea5, Neneka5, Ameth5, NYHatsune4, OYuki5.
Using the AoE Physical ā> Single Physical ā> Magic Pan will work with the right units.
man fug not all my shit are 6*

Yeah, I knew it. Neneka is essential in basically everything. So everything is impossible for me until then.
I dont think neneka is "essential" nowadays since we are 295 R31. The last time i tried redoing ex 5 only she just used for cleanup
Anyway, welp
tamaki need her UE?
Need UE to 6* her?
UE level 30 is probably fine
Is there any mechanics to defeat the boss or i just need oonga bunga style(Straight up Dmg)?
Of f
It has 3 modes
Ok so i misused my comps
I need to use my magic comp in the next day
Since physical on mode 3 deals EXTRAVAGANT AMOUNT OF DMG
ANY PHYSICAL LOL
Even my S.nozo is dealing high dmg hahahahhahah
Is there any good substitute for miumi in the start?
Any aoe phys should be ok
you can try HatsuShio, C.Tama etc
I'm struggling without using muimi tbh
I did mostly 6 comps
im back with stronk
Same
I struggled so bad at mode 1 and 3
I almost finished it but ye I was dumb
I used my p.kyaru at mode 2
And i even forgot what comp did i use in mode 2 last time
ughhhh i only have p.kyaru for borrow
Dont you have fellow clan members?
who am i charging tp before thr boss
Dont use Chris ameth and healers too much on mode 1 and 2
You could use support like creditta who gives healing in dmg
Should I pull L.nozo?
Or wait?

Healers you should charge their tp or the supports since it helps hasten the other modes
bru creditta support is lv270
im overthinking too much about how to go about mode 1 optimally
ok dont think you can clear optimally there lol idk
I want help not comedy

its not comedy its my opinion
DMG cap increased 10 times, it should be doable
won't help if you chars die
2nd team (I forgot to pic)
Djeeta 6* L.muimi , Mitsuki ,Kokoro Summer and P.rei
4th team
P.peco, Shizurino, Yukari ,Monika and Maho
ok idk how i 1pan mode 1
is there any āmost optimal teamsā video for this?
Honestly you shouldn't need to use Laby
Just use another phy support and you'll still wanpan mode 2 easily
Wanpan progress so far
Hmmmm
Can we wanpan mode 3?
i already wasted a laby on mode 1
Meaning you used a friend one as well
no the support one was creditta
Huh
well i wasted laby
Mode 2 is Croce/Muimi food
i just 6* muimi
Ooof
oh i just used muimi and croce for mode 1
In hindsight, you can just do Illya wanpan for mode 1 and use your friend slot for neneka
That way you save your more valued units for modes 2 and 3
Send me your box Yoyo
Nah, I'm helping someone named Yoyo

Hieeee
Here
:(((

Wait, you're max level
296 aint max
TL:DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead
When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier
Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
Elements might have changed it
But I'm gonna give you comps assuming 2 compa per mode with 6 total

Do you have PRei yoyo?
Noo
kk
How about CMaho?
And can't borrow cuz everyone in clan is max
Wait lemme see
Easier to just ask for a couple tham look sunce boxes are so messy with elements
Standard plan is to PRei mode 1
But Croce does it fine too
Want me to send boxes divided by Elements?
couldnt i literally dump my entire box on the final boss
Nah, I'm gonna largely ignore elements unless there happens to be a synergy
Ok
Gonna post 6 teams
Gimme a sec
oh i forgot i own ny!peco
Also, yes
There is synergy
By which I mean
When I'm building teams
If I see a good synergy of units
I'm used to building teams for ex5 without them
Though team 1 probably gonna be mostly light
Nice

Also, I can raise mitsuki to 6 if needed
Same with illya
But I need to save 100 for chris
Mode 1
Team 1
Goal: Break all targets
Laby
Croce
CMaho
Hatsune/Shiori
LNozo
(All except CMaho set, auto on)
Mode 1
Team 2
Goal: Transition Modes
Muimi
LMuimi
SFYuni
CYukari (can be really any phys dps)
NYPeco (Can be really any phys dps)
(This team is kinda flexible, it has Muimi because if you kill mode 1 early she can mt mode 2)
Mode 2
Team 3
Goal: Kill front boss
I don't usually mage here, but I think your box is better to mage here
PKokko
NYKasumi
NYHomare
XPeco
NYHatsune
(This is the team I'm least sure on because I only own like half of them, but we'll see, Can try PYui here as well)
Mode 2
Team 4
Goal: Clear mode 2
SChika
Tomo
Djeeta
XJun
Shizuru and Rino
Mode 3
Team 5
Goal: Chunk the boss
PKyaru
Lailael
Ames
CIlya
SNeneka
(Because of your level you might need a tank, but with Ames hopefully not) (Misora Chunks this boss, so if you can borrow one this is where you do it)
Mode 3
Team 6
Goal: Kill the boss
Neneka
Monika
WDjeeta
IoNoire
SKyouka
(IoNoire tp drains, and less tp = less ubs which is your clock.) (If you need a tank NKuuka can be used here. Ideally SKyouka is replaced with PKyaru, And PKyaru last team is replaced with a borrowed Misora)
If after this the boss is dead it should be under 20m
And cleanup crew teams kill
Ilya6 is an option for mode 1
But the Croce team is better
All teams are subject to change cause of survivability
Feel free to ping me if needed for changes
Also assume at least UE unlocked for unjts mentioned and max ue for Prifes units
Cmaho needs ue?
Imma go make food, and can help @pure mulch after
ye
Cmaho Skill 1 turbo charges your front unit's tp
Even more with ue
It's why you don't set her
So ue orb her?
Her plus front Croce or PRei goes brrrr
Also, I don't have muimi
She only needs an unlock
But she's not a bad unit
So up to you
oops, I looked wrong
1 sec
I have 0 idea, you say, I have 6 more orbs rn from luna
How many Prifes units have you orbed?
Nnk, pyaru
Will orb christina
Can orb pyui
Give your HatsuShio an orb for sure
Ohh, I unlocked their only
I wanna say don't orb CMaho cause you can farm her
Ok lemme orb em
Ok
Ok
And the Muimi change...
Too late
what cykari now?
Nothing in particular
I would at least give swords to dps
And full gear to 3* for survivability

Whatever gives more defense
I can't read Japanese 
kk, might need 5* or higher level
We can pivot
Let's put in a proper healer
NYMisato
Keep it light
Im place of her
Yuni speed buff conflicts with Laby
yah
Should work better
idr if Misato is affevted by the LNozo tp but it should be ok
Yeah, they do that

With attributes
This or the prei team
Can 1 team mode 1
But probably not at your level
Ok I cleared mode 1

Team 2 in the trash
Team 3 I'm ehhhh about
But good luck
I'm just not used to magic team 3, but NYHomare should carry
If this isn't cutting it
We can rearrange thanks to skipping team 2
Into a Tomo, Shiori, PKokko build
Hopage
Dps is not looking good here
17 seconds left but front boss still has 46% hp
Yeah, so the gimmick is every 10 hits on boss 2
It explodes and massively damages front boss and lowers front defense
I would try again but with PYui in place of NYHatsune maybe?
And if that isn't doing it
We can try Tomo/Shiori
Rip, sorry
I'm not used to maging mode 2
Gomen
Still fine though
lemme et you a new team 3 and 4

It's at 40- 70 boss 1 n 2
Ok, wait, I cook up something
Removed
Xpeco
Ok wait somewhat working
Lemme, equip nyhatsune, she might finish it
For Team 4 now
SChika
Lmuimi
Tomo
Shiori
Djeeta
Just... go all dps
If they die XJun in place of LMuimi probably
Because of the 10 hit thing, you want milti hit UBs
Ok, first boss has 2% hp left
Trying tjis
That's fine


Can I use Ameth instead of schika
Nah, you want Ames on mode 3
Ok
And also
ames barrier isn't enough
You need the omega strong mage barrier
You can try Yukari instead though
Yea, sounds good
Used tomo, djeeta schika ShizuRino and shiori
So yah, for mode 3
You either need Ames barrier
or
TP drain
To survive long enough to get good damage
If you can borrow misora, team 5 is the time o do it
If not, better to borrow an ames for team 6
Or another PKyaru for team 6
oh right i have p!kyaru available for suport
I think so, yes
Next team ill also chunk
And if it doen't kill you can use a cleanup suicide team
IE all dps gonna die but does like 5 mil damage
NIo needs ue?
Yes but 2 star
Angel Yori
Wait
Basically a magic support with TP drain works
Ohh yes I have her
Even mkasumi works if you're omega scuffed
Uhh, actually use her in place of SKyouka
Orb or unlock?
I didn't see her
Ok
x5 hard soon
Ok



Alrighty @pure mulch
Your turn
another successful kaede carry 
EX6 is Kyrari's specialty

But... with your box with
Maybe actually?
Ima try after getting like 30 more levels
I would hit level 250
But by then probably yes
||and christina||


@pure mulch
See
for general strats
Here are your teams
Mode 1 Team 1
LNozo
Laby
CTama
PRei
Muimi
(Doubt you need a healer, but if you do, replace Muimi)
Mode 2 Team 2
NYSheffy
EXAyane
Croce
Pkokko
SFYuni
Mode 2 Team 3
SaSaren
Yukari
Djeeta
Lmuimi
PHiyori
(If a tank is needed, replace PHiyori)
Mode 3 Team 4
Misora
Ames
Cilya
Lailael
Neneka
Mode 3 Team 5
NIo or AYori
Kyouka 6
NKuuka
Stmisaki
Borrow Misora or PKyaru
Gonna make dinner, good luck~

For the tldr of mechanics
Repost your box and I'll make teams
need team comp suggestions for EX5 please, i am struggling
aside from the usual CB units who have maxed UE a lot of my UE levels are very low
no UE but i can give her it, also no misato :(
Alright, you probably can't 1 pan mode 1 but that's fine
Lemme see
Go classic PRei for mode 1
I'm gonna make you 6 teams
You might not need them all
Assume ue unlocked on all of these unless mentioned
Do you have or can you borrow a misora?
mode 1 team 1
Laby
PRei
Cmaho (Give Max EX Equip to survive)
Creditta
HatsuShio
(might need a healer, not sure at your level, if so use Skokko)
CMaho unset, auto on, all others set
mode 1 team 2
Muimi
AkiSaren
Lnozo
SFYuni
SaSaren
mode 2 team 3
Tomo
Pkokko
Shiori
EXAyane
XJun or NYkokko (Might not need tank)
mode 2 team 4
Needs an mbarrier
SChika
Djeeta
Tamaki
Chris
PPeco
mode 3 team 5
Chunk with magic
PKyaru (Borrow a Misora is possible instead)
CIlya
Ames
SNeneka
Neneka
Mode 3 Team 6
Karin (Borrow an Ames if you couldn't borrow a Misora)
Monika
GreAnne
Pkyaru (If you could borrow a Misora, if not use Ranpha)
NYNeneka
If you need more teams you are in "random phys bs" mode becuase it will have no health left
@hard ravine
thank you so much!!! ill try this out! and yes i can borrow a misora :D
man feels too much for me to compreheand having 4+ teams
just use teams 1 by 1 
EX5 clear :D took 6 teams
might try this but any replacement for ilya6?
and also ayui

how tf am i supposed to think this through
didn't kaede send u team by team? 
yeah
shit i wouldnt never figured out bc i never read the translated descriptionbof each units
Mostly cmaho
Otherwise you could try phy
I've played around with PRei and I got close to wanpan mode 1 (keyword close) but I'll fall short from having a good anchor for support
I'm here again if you still need help
It's mostly just understanding boss mechanics and trying teams
I did this on release with... 13 teams?
We did 1 pan with croce mono light on a level 220 account
So tbh I think that might be the play
Laby
Croce
NYMisato
Hatsune/Shiori
LNozo
Can 1 pan mode 1
I still prefer the CMaho Prei build tho

Ill send box first ig?
Yes please, I'm gonna copy paste the boss mechanics while you do
TL:DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race
Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead
When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier
Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams
Usually takes 5-7 teams depending on level/units
ok thanks
All units ue at least unlocked and all set unless mentioned
Mode 1 Team 1
Goal: Break All Targets
Laby
Croce
LNozo
NYMisato
Hatsune/Shiori
(I helped a level 220 1 pan this mode yesterday with the same team
You might only need 1 team, but I'll make 2 just in case)
Mode 1 Team 2
Goal: Clear Mode 1
Akino/Saren
AHiyori
TTInori
CMakoto
PShinobu
Mode 2 Team 3
Goal: Kill Front Boss
(Gonna try a mage team cause your mt mage is deeper than phys)
NKuuka
NYHomare
PAnna
NYHatsune
SFyuni
Mode 2 Team 4
Goal: Clear Mode 2
(This is the mode with the enrage so we need a barrier unit)
SChika
Djeeta
Shizuru/Rino
LMuimi
Monika
You could try Yukari in place of SChika for light synergy, but I think you need SChika's heals without a proper tank
Mode 3 Team 5
Goal: Chunk the boss
Misora
Ames
Cilya
SNeneka
Neneka
Misora absolutely chunks this boss
Ideally you'd have Lailael too, but you should have enough shred without her
Mode 3 Team 6+
Goal: Kill the boss
Phys Version
Xmiyako
Borrow Ames
Hninon
CYukari
Riri
(hopefully you don't need team 2 and can put the units here)
Magic Version
Borrow a PKyaru or Misora or Ayui
StMisaki
OYuki
Vampy
GreAnne
@river summit
Here are my teams

Notes
With your level you might need a proper tank on some modes
In that case we can slip in the SYukari or Nozomi
Mode 2 2nd boss has a mechanic where every 10 hits it interrupts it's action and damages itself and front enemy and lowers their defense
That's why we want lots of multi hit UBs for it
6*s it would be nice to have for this but not 100% needed
Tomo
Maho
Skokkoro
Got to lvl 214
Also, you have a cmaho for team 1 if needed, but at 3* she's a bit squishy so we'll just Croce it
Everyone r31-5 now
Awesome
Ok lemme go see if team 1 works
Do you have units you can borrow btw?
Still a 30 level cap on borrows in dungeon
If not I can tweak the last teams
I do have some
kk, cool
Can deal with that when we get there
just checking cause some people are in clans of like all max level people and you can't borrow from them unless 30 levels under
That 226 Ames looks just fine for mode 3
Or Chris if we just need dps
seems solid
Gotta clear stages first
Try to tp charge some units
I forget if they give you max tp for free on ex5
They do
Sorry, had some chore
Nw
i would up EX equip and try to clear
If not it's not a big deal though
Either way we can probabyl scrap team 2 and use random stuff to finish it if you can't 1pan
Oh yeah, should do that
You shouldh have piles of points
Croce s the one doing the serious damage here so mostly on her
If you can't 1 tap it after that no point brewing, we'll just hrow some free units at it
nice, so we can take those team 2 units and save them for mode 3
mode 2 honestly might take 3 teams, I'm unsure with your box
Im guessing i should give everyne ue
Unfortunately yeah
SFYuni might not need it
NYHomare is worth a sphere imo
NKuuka and Pannasonic should only need 30 ue
K done
Had no speres at the time so shes fully da'd


If you can I would say make sure they have EX gear again
But as mentioned if you have to 3 team this mode it should be ok
Ny hatsu or panna get pink exweapon?
yeah
That's fine
We'll tweak team 4 a little though
Schika
LMuimi
Monika
Djeeta
Akino/Saren
Set all except Akino/Saren
Auto on
Akino/Saren will heal a bit and have aoe damage which will help until boss 1 is dead
nice~
Time for the Misora team
It should chunk pretty hard
Then we can repurpose team 2 into the Phys team 6
Borrowed Ames
Xmiyako
AHiyori
Cmakoto
Shizuru/Rino
Should be the best dps with your remaining phys units
For team 6
Misora and nnk get pink staff?
Got 2
Then yep
Ames keeps you alive
Misora main dps
Ilya for speed
SNeneka and Neneka for buffs and dps
Team dies at like 40s
Actuallly at like 18
A little less than half life on the boss
Ny nnk instead of snnk?
Yeah, that's probably the best starting point
If that doesn't work
Can cut CIlya for Oyuki instead
Is this ub 3? from the bos?
Yeah
Lemme see what you have for TP drain units
Ill try og yukari first
Ok its 4th boss ub
But still same
So mkas?
With mkas i survive but lose 15mil dmg compared to snnk
Maybe just go more dmg and try to do as much as possible?
Yeah, try the phys team here and see what the damage is so we can plan ahead
Don't borrow ames yet though
K
Just use your own and don't finish the fight
Who gets pink ahiyo or xmiyako?
Yeah, this might be tight

I do think just yoloing the magic team is best
Unless you can have someone set a Lailael to borrow
Might have to brew some other teams
I'm gonn check your units again
and see if there's a phys team that lets you borrow that Christina
And not an ames
I think just hitting with that magic team is reasonable though
Oh, actually
How close to 6* is shiori?
Some 6* would help a lot I think yeah
Maho and misaki prefarmed as well
I think Makoto for sure
Also like 20 shards iff 3star ue30 waoi
Nah, rn I think just need dps
So makoto 6 will help
I'm looking for synergies to squeak out damage
The only issue is the enrage under 30mish
Where units will die like flies
But You definitely have enough units to do it
Is Sheffy 6*
Could go for dark with mkt6 eriko6 riri and whatever
No... missing like 150 shards
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at that's probably the best
Omitsuki maybe for 4 dark then ames to stay alive
kk
I'd say get Eriko and Makoto 6*
and we'll see what
Ames
Eiriko
Riri
Makoto
Xmiyako
Can do
Or this too
K making 6stars
I expect this won't hit 50% boss hp like the magic team
But if these 2 combined can get it to like... 15mil left you should be good with random bs
I think just try as is
Tomo would have been good on mode 2 but is just a speed buffer here now
Might be good if you need to fill the ranks but I'd see how this goes
This puts the boss to 65mil
how much was the magic team doing?
Can try ShizuRino in place of Xmiyako
That might do more with her increased TP range
It might just have to do and you can send some suicide teams for the final 20m
AHiyori
CMakoto
ShizuRino/Xmiyako
CYukari
Tank or 5th dps
Can be 1 suicide team perhaps
Cyukari the camping one?
Yeah
It basically becomes "what ok dps have we not used" at this point
For any suicide team I wouldn't raise UEs
Not really worth it
Ok so shizurino ts.suzu yui, cmako, nysheffy does like 20
Should technically kill with those 3
I... forgot we didn't use NYsheffy becuase magic Team 3

That does it
Enrage might change it
But with sync units I think you're good
Still havent used greanne either
yeah
The thing with GreAnne is she needs enablers
But misora is just better on this boss
So no many enablers left
But definitely can chunk]
So ig i srart with the mage
Yeah, go max damage to least damage
Did it use ames?
How much hp left when it died?
Lemme see
Cause you can probably Finish with GreAnne
Little bit of tp missing
Can try a GreAnne team too
See how much that does before dying
No SSaren, right? that would be nice
I forget what exactly you have left
But if we can get 1 or 2 more few million teams it's dead
See how the classic GreAnne does
NYnene
GreAnne
OYuki
etc
Nah, you can do it with what you have
Thanks to sync
It just won't be pretty
This happens with EX5 sometimes if a lowish level
Get to 20m then need 3 more teams
Boss just oneshots the light now at 48s no matter what i do
Yeah, there's not really a way around it
Unlike EX6 where enrage only starts if you start the fight under a certain hp
EX5 always enrages
The solution is tp drain units or just beating your head into it with the last of your units
Didnt x or s yukari drain
Sorry, stepped away
Yes, XYukari drains
you)re right
But dont think its gonna work out

I still think you can try throwing your box at it
But if not you're really close
By level 220 you definitely can
And if you do 6* Tomo you can use her on mode 2 team 1 to shift another unit to mode 3
Mightve just had to run non ames first bc ames teams might survive enrage?
No, they usually don't
But can try that yeah
Sorry if it wasn't successful today
Yeah haha
Good luck in the future
And feel free to ping me if you want any more help
What's the best type of team comp to deal with mode 3?
I have him down to 30mil and I need to synch some characters to finish the job lol
Not sure.... iall my teams died to enrage
Is enrage the phase where he gets stronger when he's about to die?
I read that he can do that
Single target omega dps

Should I care about defense at all?
Or is bursting him down really that important
Oh yeah, that enrage is awful.
Yeah he does that at about 20m hp i think
Part of me wants to just let it be and do this tomorrow at this point. Use my units more efficiently.
This dungeon is making me feel like maybe I don't have the best list of characters. I'm max level and struggling like mad. I've been stuck here for months now
Fair enough
This one's rough. I threw 11 teams at him and he just won't die 
I'll try again later
I get him down to like 6mil after that every team just dies
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Idk maybe X Mahiru, she might have phys barrier
Id rather da og shizuru
If you have Transfer Student Kyaru, New Years Kasumi, and Christmas Pecorine, they have the sustain to last long enough for units like Misora and Princess Kyaru to finish the job. Assuming you're leveled high enough. That's what I did just now to power through enrage and it worked.
I just meant for the extra hp and stuff. Cause it worked for me, but like barely. I'm 298
Someone cleared this at 220 2days ago
So i should be able to as well
But well they have a stacked box
Yeah you should. I just meant the team I brought up may not work until later lol
Ic
If you got it to 6mil then you're very close
I prob just need to bring the boss close to 20m hp then finish with 1 team
Yeah that's exactly what I did
Instead of exposing my teams to enrage
Just find the teams that can handle it and use everything else first
Yeah i had a team do like 45m but used it first...
Ill try again after reset with 4 more lvls and box at r32
which comps should I throw at the boss with these units?
TL:DR
Mode 1 MT break all the targets
Once targets are broken it's ST until mode change
After you break the targets it gets constant TP refill reduced by damage so it a dps race
Mode 2 is multi target but you need a bit more healing
ST once front boss is dead
When middle boss gets to 1/2 hp it enrages and can use a magic nuke that WILL kill you so you need an SChika or Yukari 6 barrier
Mode 3 is just a dps race
This is usually where you unload mages
It enrages near the end and UBs more often
And every UB powers it up more so you usually die by UB 3 without ames
You save Ames for this mode and then use TP drain units to delays UBs on other teams
Guess the teams u did for me should work here with 50+ lvl diff
Light team 1 works very well
Croce
Creditta
LNozo
Laby
HatsuShio
Mode 2 team 1 can be
Tomo
XJun
SFYuni
Akino 6
Christina 6
Mode 2 team 2
SNozo
Tamaki
PPeco
Yukari for Barrier
SRei
Mode 3 team 1
Lairael
Ames
Misora
Neneka
OYuki
Mode 3 team 2
LMuimi
ShizuRino
NYMisato
NYKokko
Djeeta
And if a 3rd mode 3 is needed
STama with UE2 or NIo will train tp very well
So
STama
Akino/Saren
Monika
PKokko
PHiyori
You have a lot of wiggle room though
Can also do mage Mode 2 team 1 with SRanpha/NYHomare like Helios mentioned
Scroll up a bit for the teams I suggested there
@manic spire cleared it with your suggested comps, thank you 
did end up needing team 3 for mode 3 since it had a sliver of hp left before it nuked team 2 twice
now i cope for ex 6 tomorrow

@finite veldt if u already used ur dungeon try u can ping kaede in here tomorrow 
yeah i autopiloted into ex6 shadow fights today lmao
box is very full nowadays with sync...
Not in a clan atm XD
But I did clear it
Just threw random stuff after the team I had selected
Thank you though!

Hmm, this might be a little tricky
But at your level should be fine
I would try a non Ames team first and save her for squishy stuff
Djeeta
NYMisato
XJun
LMuimi
either LNozo or Chris or Makoto
Trying to lean into elements
But I don't think you have any shredders in light left
So I would try the Makoto version and see how that does
And that way can save Chris for a squishy fire team with ames and PHiyori
grats
Wtf u actually changed pfp back?
umu
She is cute
From Atelier
That claudia?
Discord does that
Because it's programmed well... it's just programmed
Ilmeria from Lydie & Sue
Fiery tsundere with skills to back it up
and gae
Sophie series really good~
Sophie 2 is a great game
I have many tastes
Usually I don't like Tsuntsuns
But Ilmeria is really cute
Ic ic... but yandere doko
Did I read gay


Time to watch n play
What are the series name
Atelier
can you help me in mode 2? i dont have chris6/akino6/and sfyuni
already one shotted mode 1
ye
Gimme 1 min
havent borrowed yet btw
There are 2 parts of it?
Oh damn, You are fine
Let's go mage
2 teams
PKokko
SRanpha
NYHomare
EXMaho
SSaren for speed
team 2
Tomo
SChika for mage barrier
Jun
Shiori
Muimi
for mode 3?
There are about 20 atelier games
Sophie is from the Mysteries series
Nah, 2 teams for mode 2
oh ok
Which one is anime
Then 2 more for mode 3
the one u suggested?
this?
Both of the suggested ones are for mode 2
And then yeah you can do that for mode 3
At your level you should have no trouble
Ryza is the most recent one
I... personally don't like Ryza much
But it is a good entry point
If you end up having mode 3 trouble feel free to ping again, but I doubt you will
She's a multi target mage
And we need to save Nenekers for mode 3
ex is explorer right
I also wanted EXMaho to be good
im not getting it mixed
Yeah
ok
The boss should melt
If not you can phys mode 2 instead
But I think you'll be fine
Team 1 kills front boss
Team 2 kills mage boss
i think should be fine, first boss was already 50% hp when i finished the mode 1
light is giga cracked ngl
Yeah, there's a 2 team clear
It's, uhh, kinda manual
But light is too op
I'm still building teams like the bonus isn't there
And then people come back and are like "I don't need 2nd team, the first team 1 shot the mode"

Unless you started dungeon yesterday and carried over
Oh, ok nice
ex6 isn't my specialty
but lemme get the expert





