My proposal for the ranked debate

[thick abyss]

+1 to "Make community tournaments available in-game"

[thick abyss]

For convenience, availability, and safety and good taste because private servers aren't as moderated as public ones.

[azure sand]

Instead of ranked, we could have something like H1Z1 used to have. Lobbies for everyone. Except you have a color depending on your elo in the killfeed.

This could attract more people into the BR to have a rank. ofc ranked would be cool tho because it separates casual and comp

[twin eagle]

No offense but I think both sides would be unsatisfied by this. It makes the game way more competitive, which is what the players against ranked don't want, yet beginners still have to play against pros, which is the thing that makes some want a ranked mode and what started this whole discussion.

[thick abyss]

I think that, in reality it's a bit more complicated than that from what I observe. While there are people that care about environment being less competetive, and people that want more fair matchups(both competetive and casual people), there are also people that want to grind stats, for status, self worth, grinding sake, to kill boredom etc.

BTW, I made a suggestion once to have SBMM without ranked/stats/leaderboard(because I agree with you here, stats encourage competetive mindset, which in turn invites a bit of toxicity, without doing anything for making matches fair), an anthithesis to OPs most points. Ofc, with playerbase being as small as it is, it's much easier to do reverse, ranked without SBMM as OP suggests. I'm not sure if the cons are worth the pros, so I'm not voting here.

[twin eagle]

What? I think you didn't quite understand what I meant with my comment, so I'm going to explain it in more detail now. The main reason why some people want a ranked mode in this game, is to make the game more beginner friendly. Right now, beginners have to play in the same matches as a level 3000+ pro with a 50%+ win rate. A ranked mode would stop this, by seperating the newbies from the pros, making the game easier for beginners and more challenging for pros. The problem of new players and pros playing in the same matches, still remains with your solution. The people who are against a ranked mode (like me) have two main problems with this. The first one is that the game simply doesn't have enough players to do this and the matches would be nothing but bots if the players get divided by rank. Your idea avoids that problem. The other reason why some are against ranked mode, is that it could make the game more overly competitive. SAR is a lot more chill and less competitive than other BR games, which a lot of people like, me included. A ranked mode could attract more tryhards and motivate people to play for the game purely for winning. Your idea would also make the game more competitive and thus, also goes against what a lot of the anti ranked side wants. There sure are some people that would like the game to be more competitive, but they seem to be a minority from my experience. Not saying your idea in general is bad, it just really doesn't work as a solution for the ranked debate in my opinion.

[thick abyss]

even if somebody misinterprets your intentions(and Trixie was confused with it also), doesn't mean that person is a troll. you could have just explain what you have meant, instead you decided to sabotage your own thread, insult someone further, over one misunderstanding

good night everyone