[NPC] What are the Quests would you FOLKS like to get NERFED/Changed? (DISC)

[charred pasture]

After seeing the roadmap to address Quests Balancing;

Kind of figured that setting up a discussion on which one the community agreed being too much might have been the way instead of sending passive aggressive remarks. While I do understand that most of side-quests are not intended to be finished in a day; Most of these felt like padding CHORE, even from a wiki editor standpoint that haven't done this.
Also I would like to add that: Please LET US DO THE QUEST OUTSIDE OF BR / at our own pace (Don't time gate them).. :cc

Anyways, nerfs.
John Murr

• Q5 Wander in the Rain ||(Wander 1km in the rain.)||
  -# Reduce it by 50%, waiting for Rain RNG and requiring you to be in the lobby is already annoying enough as it is, imo.
• Q8 Wander as Wide as Weirdo Would ||(Wander 50km in the lobby) (opt: With frends.)||
  -# Maybe half this too? Mayhaps ||25km|| would suffice .. what about those that plays alone?
• Q9 Wander in Danger ||(Wander 50km in the BR)||
  -# I'd highly suggest a NERF by doubling the distance, but ALLOW you to play ANY MODE /w Friends. (if the invisible stick remain as a reward).

John Emu / Jack Three-Toed

• E5 Speedy Steed ||(Ride Fast Emu for 10km )||
  -# Halve this. RNG of Emu is already tedious.
  Possibly More Ideas to replace them.
• E9 Emu There, Yet? (Ride someone else's emu and speedboost them for XY km)
• E10 Emu-nity Time (Heal Emu for 500HP using Dart Gun in a game)

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See: https://wiki.animalroyale.com/wiki/Quests
i.e. perhaps there were other things beyond "Cap 5 flags as Scout II" that I overlooked as being incredibly easy.

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[nimble niche]

I would like to see General Macarfur's quest for ||five scout II flag captures|| made easier. It is way out of proportion with his other quests (so far as I've seen).

[split trench]

7 flags as Scout and call it a day.

Open up more quests to not be royale locked - like murre's danger wander) and those quests will resolve themselves over time.

On the tine-gating, one way to mitigate this would be to allow NPCs to silently queue up a second quest in the event of quests that take more than one server reset cycle to resolve.

[sly chasm]

War Horse side quest, just needs more battle emu spawns per game and not be so rare

[glacial solar]

Quack shot and sgt bird dudes quest shouldnt have as many time gates, they are both the tutorial guys and as such should be free game.

Quack shots quest of shoot gallery target with x weapon becomes repetitive quickly. I think instead similar the tutorial he should sweep the player away and tell u info as u fight set enemies. For example a bcg charge shot going closer and longer, rebounding off of walls to hit someone along with over, and one for hitting multiple with a splash all done by hitting lined up enemies with a little slice of life plot ofcouse.

When it comes to quests an enhancement of old and a splash of new life for the new ones i imagine coming out later down the road (hopefully) would make the game really stand out imo.

[charred pasture]

Agreed. Not to mention, locking them into BR also causes massive burnout and unnecessary difficulty for weapons that are hard to find like BCG or Miniguns.
-# I would like to see something like the following too which tells you what the weapon GIMMICK is without having to read the wiki. But for now, remove the gate + BR restriction for those.
-# - Break X Armors with Sniper type weapon
-# - With the BCG, Get 1 Kill THROUGH a low wall (this is diff compared to Thomas' quest)
-# - With a Bow Type weapon, chain X consecutive hits on that same animal before they die.
-# - With the DDG Type weapon, inflict X DMG/Heal through the chaining darts gimmick.

Second batch it is.

Ronald // Fish Bruh
Q5 Perfect, Bruh .. You're a Legend, Bruh .. ()
-# Allow previously caught perfect to count?
-# Even better, let players retract their previously collected fish from the museum to "SHOW OFF" them. Obviously showcased fish would sell for 0 Coins.

Chef Aoki
Q3 Egged On ||(Launch BCG Eg)||
-# Allow this to trigger in other mods that aren't BR. This RNG-type of quest either takes 2mins or longer.

**McRuffBarkBarkBark // General MacaFur **
Q8 Eagle Scout ||(Capture 5 flags as Scout II)||
-# Change this to either Capture 3 flags in a single game (any) or let Scout I capture to count too? This genuinely hurts Inexperienced Scout players.
-# You could literally grab any of the scout ideas I have suggested from (i.e. Initiate a Capture that succeed within 45s of dropping from the Eagle)
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Q12 Shoot for the Star ||Do 5k DMG to GSNM||
-# Halve this. This quest encourages griefing imo. The damage is too high where players would intentionally IDLE and wait for GSNM while not contributing half of the game. Thus ruining the already poor SvR team balance.
Q14 Giant Slayer ||Deal the final hit to GSNM||
-# Make assists on GSNM also count. This feels unnecessarily frustrating for a requirement of LONG and TEDIOUS timegated quest?

Dipsea
Q4 Blue Highway to the Danger Zone
-# Since this quests already relies on Blue Shroom RNG, enable it too for other modes..?

John Michael
Q5 The Straight and Sparrow Path ||(Shoot 10 Sparrows Powerup at Foes)||
-# Nerf this to 3 or make it super common. Ik you can theoretically get it in duos, but again wild RNG.

Quillson
QBUG8 A Perfect Catch .. A Legendary Catch .. Catch Every Bug .. Catch Every Perfect Bug
-# Ditto, see Ronald. Allow previously submitted bugs to count.

Charson
QFISH8 A Perfect Fish .. A Legendary Catch .. Catch Every Fish .. The Perfect Fish Collection
-# Ditto, see Ronald. Allow previously submitted fish to count.

Louie
ALL
-# Either ramp up the chance while the quest is active, or see this Ottercle suggestion. I will not do nor test them if this haven't changed.
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Th. Sledison
-# For now remove their timegate. Their quests are already grindy enough for a dog's trying to get you to not bother them.
QA1 Starting Your New Roll ||(Roll 5km in Ball)||
-# Halve this Hamsterball req mayb? 2km?
QA7 Reloaded and it Feels So Good
-# Reduce this to 5/10? Instead of 20?

Oh yems, also also also..
-# Make the restriction on The Way We Roll a.k.a the quest that unlocks Hamsterball Race .. along with Bug catching and Fishing a lot more lenient (Only Requiring SAW Identity Card) -- I really think putting them way TOO deep into almost D2 contributes to players not knowing they exists.

[nimble niche]

Hadn't thought of it myself, but I would love to be able to do any mode for quests. Obviously some quests (steal and tape an enemy armor or survive to final circle) will not be possible in anything other than Battle Royale, but the others are.

[glacial solar]

When handling quests like perfect legendary fish, gold/blackpearl i think a pop up coming up like

"Are you sure you want to sell this/donate? Someone might wanna see this later"

Would be lovely

[glacial solar]

Reloading 20 times with a bandolier is probably telling u use a hunting rifle, idk if the game at that quest is promoting using it but outside of a HR i don't you'll naturally reload that many times while holding it.

[charred pasture]

I have no clue what the design of that is, since it comes with "To Ammo Mucho" which Sledison tells you that you can load more ammo and grenades, thus you should try to do that whenever you are hoarding bandolier.

No clue if they were implying you should use minigun or something like that. They never really mentioned stuff like HR or Sparrow-type went from GREAT but RISKY to INSANE.

[boreal pond]

John Murre's quest: A Long, Wet Wander
Walking 3 km through shallow water was a painful experience to say the least..
Improvements for this quest: remove it

[glacial solar]

Bandolier function is that total resources are increased and reloaded speed is faster.

Example 5 tape to 6
4 catmines to 5 (yes can place 5 aswell)
Ammo total of smg increased etc

Reload speed is also boosted which helps alot with hunting rifles shoot reload shoot gameplay.

Good for dartfly imo as healing ur teammates and fighting with it is less taxing on ammo

[glacial solar]

Give a daily to open clams i think would mitigate it and would support the Louie pearls later down the road

[charred pasture]

Considering Louie's entire lore is Murre don't want him to mess with the Museum, sure ig.

[charred pasture]

@glacial solar True, but I'm mainly interested in the design standpoint there. Other NPCs do guide you explicitly too on what to do. i.e. NPC RuffBark has with blurb iirc
Get lucky ... jump back into SvR but don't return until your team has won. Do you understand?
Which kind of implies the designed goal behind it ... being to just get lucky. That is it. The quest is designed be somewhat RNG instead of worth anything (intended to give you any info on e.g. how the Matchmaker works or anything).

Unless I completely misunderstood what Thomas meant when they told you about the Bandolier gimmick.

Q? Museum Explorer Hat
Q? Museum Satchel (Grey/Black)
Q? Museum ID / Notepad
Q9 Hiker's Cane Melee

E2-E5 Rancher Bandana
E9 Emu Riding Crop / Lasso Melee
E10 Permanent Access to Emus in Lobby (??)```

I think I'm good for the time being, provided the time-gated stuff are .. gone? Just a matter of time until SAW Museum update does anything.

[glacial solar]

Not to sure about the bandoiler part here. The functions of the bandoiler is just hold more max resources and reload faster with all guns.

The part about svr to me isnt reliant on luck as a squads skill can definitely even out a bad odds game.

On a avg skill lvl game with no direction, yeah it can be rough. I haven't been to terribly curve stomped but winning can be a challenge if ur solo queing into svr. I think its common for players to overextend in that mod espeically instead of holding flags.

That said a really well tuned squad could dominate with just 4 members given a solid strategy

[storm topaz]

For ||Q8 Eagle Scout, 3 Scout II caps in 1 match would be way worse than 5 overall (Down to 3 Scout II over more than 1 match is good tho)||