#New energy drink powerup

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brazen swallow
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Energy drink powerup 10-15% base speed boost and 50% chance for speed boost when eating consumables like mushrooms and candy corn

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I want it to be faster that the ninja booties but idk what the passive speed buff for those is

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Maybe 5-20% faster

untold tartan
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a little too overpowered

inland mica
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Bro why do you keep coming up with bad ideas 🥀

brazen swallow
wild lynx
brazen swallow
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I think this one has potential

wild lynx
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Why not make it 20 %?

inland mica
inland mica
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brazen swallow
steady cliff
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If there is no valid argument against the suggestion, avoid settling for pressing ❌ and nothing else. The 'for' camp is already defined by the suggestion itself, and so the 'against' camp needs to step to the plate.

Furthermore, an ❌ (or simply saying one doesn't like it - or that it is a bad idea or get even more personal with the person making the suggestion) tells the suggestion-maker absolutely nothing about what is being objected to or why. Even worse when the objection is itself turns out to be invalid ('I don't like sandwiches because witches are mean and sand is gritty'). An ❌ doesn't clear up such misunderstandings.

Nobody gains from telling another person that the idea that they bothered to share sucks. Maybe the person telling them gains something from knocking the other person down? But it doesn't speak highly of motive.

And there 'are' better ways to challenge an idea than to press an ❌ . After all, the point is to improve suggestions whether they are great or not.

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For instance, one thing that this powerup does have working against it is that it treads upon the toes of the ninja boots powerup.

In a sense, it could end up presenting a similar challenge to what the super blender powerup did, which had a hard time growing beyond its perks without treading on the toes of the cupgrade, and it already stepped on the toes of the banana forker (except that that upgrade could afford it).

Here, the energy drink offers a different spin on speed from an upgrade. This would actually be the third (okay fourth) upgrade that impacts speed - the super snorkel offering bonus speed in the gas, and the claw boots nullifying speed impediment due to water or eggs.

In terms of other powerups that offer a different kind of speed boost - the bandolier provides a reload speed boost while the SAWI tape offers a taping speed boost. So those are another areas of speed that has coverage.

With this all in mind, maybe you might like to consider 'other' kinds of benefits for the energy drink? ^_^

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Not saying that speed cannot be an element - but it would need to additionally respect the niches of existing powerups, within reason.

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It can also be interesting to mix in impactful trade-offs such that overlaps with another powerup might still be acceptable.

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For example...

Reducing the max capacity of juice by 50%

tepid sedge
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I agree that the base speed increase is already covered by ninja booties, but the chance for a speed boost sounds neat. Maybe instead of a chance, it's definite, but not quite as long as a speed mushroom?

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Combining this with the juice capacity reduction might be good.

steady cliff
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Perhaps:

'Blue Hawk' Energy Drink

-50% max juice capacity

On drink, instantly consume 20 health juice.
Does not continue drinking. Needs to be triggered again.

+10% speed boost +1% for every two health juice points consumed unnecessarily, for 5 seconds.

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"It gives you horns" skullcat_happy

visual lynx
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people rarely bother to tell you why a suggestion is flawed and if the suggestion is even a small bit controversial (as in "add/remove (gameplay feature)" suggestions) expect people to get rlly personal about it (often resorting to insults if the conversation goes on long enough)

visual lynx
steady cliff
# visual lynx people rarely bother to tell you why a suggestion is flawed and if the suggestio...

Controversial topics are more challenging to make a case for, but an attempt is made. People will do what is easy rather than what is helpful. Pressing an ❌ is easy (even a cat walking across a keyboard (okay, and/or mouse) can do it accidentally skullcat_happy ) but it doesn't contribute to anything better just as telling a person that their cooking is garbage doesn't help them become a better cook. Insults versus constructively critiquing.

steady cliff
wild lynx
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I ain't going to have another Proto Human Argument

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People don't learn when people insulting them

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People learn when people are open minded and instead of just pushing it they rather figure out an alternative

lament wolf
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Blue mushrooms left the chat

steady cliff
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True. Insults derail/ shutdown debate. Debates generally lose when participants aim to win them.

steady cliff
visual lynx
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honestly i think better feedback forum management can be a separate suggestion (ironically in its own forum) (double irony if it gets X bombed to hell and back)
I am not making it since ive already had my fair share of arguing over suggestions here, but it's something to consider (And also because I don't want OP's suggestion to get drowned by off topic discussions)

steady cliff
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Fair. I've certainly argued on such in the past (and satirized it: #🧩feedback-chat message). Agreed that it's off topic from that of an energy drink powerup. It came up because the way disagreement was expressed left something to be desired.

Agreed that we should focus more on the titled suggestion.