Mystery boxes in game

[waxen sun]

Interesting

That would be better than buying a custom for 1000 tickets

[ivory osprey]

Lootbox no thx

[sacred flint]

gambling

no thanks

[waxen basin]

If it was Carl coins then…maybe since everyone probably has at least 500K Carl coins at this point…but even then…yaaaa gambling
No thanks
Loot boxes
No thanks

[crimson pond]

Yeah I could see people not wanting to take this risk

[pliant canopy]

no need to increase age rating for SAR with lootbox gambling, especially when devs want the cosmetics be accessible as possible via shops in rotation, level up pools, animal passes and/or milestones

that's a no from me

[ivory osprey]

Would just be for Netherlands and Belgium I think but ye still agree

[crimson pond]

You’re right, this was just an idea

[cunning fern]

gambling

yes please

[low patio]

No, gambling.
Even if it was just for carl's coins I wouldn't want this.

[sullen willow]

This feature is in many other games, not because it is good, but because developers are greedy.

[wise jungle]

Can I have a sar gotcha mechanic along with this?

I wanna pull that 5 star dogna

Im good. I dont think sar needs this but I agree another store style option to get rare items would be neat.

[sullen willow]

I do think the current clothing prices are a bit steep but

like at least for emotes you can use them with any character, but with clothing, you gotta ask yourself whether you're going to use it on your favourite loadout

[low patio]

I think that in general pricing is steep on all shop items.

I think a shift to premier pricing might be a better idea.  After an item has been in circulation for a year or two it should go down in price because it's no longer the latest and greatest thing.

Rotational discounts may also grab more impulse buys, especially if they are seasonal specials.

[sullen willow]

like i dont think a digital png is worth 8 bucks but i might consider it for a buck or two

[peak cypress]

Hmm, this sounds like a worse implementation of the old reroll for higher item quality .. on top of causing gambling issues (even tho I do find gambling funny).

Will pass for now. I think.

[tropic rune]

What if it cost 75,000 carls car coins for 1 mystery box

With a 2% chance of getting something from the saw ticket shop

Maybe 100,000 carls cart coins

Maybe like this:

75% chance for a carls cart cosmetic (not currently in shop)

15% chance for a streamer item

8% chance for an event item

2% chance for something from the saw shop

Of course though, this is just an example

[graceful schooner]

Still gambling

[tropic rune]

Not with actual money though

[ivory osprey]

It would count as gambling in some places, raising the age rating to 18+

[graceful schooner]

Yep.

[sacred sierra]

I will pass on a loot box thank you

[cunning fern]

bububut gambling is worth it

[tropic rune]

Wait, its not gambling. Its buying a priduct you dont know

Its not gambling if you are going to get something either way

Its in other games too

Besides: looking at the definition of gambling, its not gambling if its left to a complete rng with no strategy behind it

[ivory osprey]

It's a lootbox which makes it 18+ in the Netherlands and Belgium p sure
Also what do you mean "its not gambling if its left to a complete rng with no strategy behind it" what does that make roulette or slot machines then?

[crimson pond]

Guys I wrote this a while ago… T-T

[tropic rune]

You choose if you want red or black

[ivory osprey]

which is RNG which it lands on

[tropic rune]

Then why isnt twitch banned

[ivory osprey]

(or well, randomness)

[ivory osprey]

?

[tropic rune]

They have lotteries

Kind of

[ivory osprey]

Do you need to spend currency?

[tropic rune]

No

[ivory osprey]

I do know that channel point predictions are disabled in some countries bc gambling

[ivory osprey]

That wouldn't fall under it then because you don't need to spend anything

[tropic rune]

You dont need to spend curreny on carl coins either

[ivory osprey]

carl coins are the currency you'd be spending

[tropic rune]

Yes

But a lot

[ivory osprey]

(virtual currency counts as currency)

for some countries' laws

[tropic rune]

Its not a microtransaction

[ivory osprey]

it still counts as a currency you obtained that you're wagering

in certain countries

even if you didn't have to spend irl money to get it

[ashen walrus]

Agreed, just let the suggestion get buried

[tropic rune]

Bro

War thunder has so much gambling and apparently thats not even 16s

And in case you dont know, war thunder has crates where you have to spend actual money on

[ivory osprey]

They prevent players in those countries using the crates

as far as I know/see

[tropic rune]

Besides, even in my old school's Halloween fair theres a raffle, i guess they were breaking the law every year for 40 years or smtn

And literal 7 year olds buy tickets

With their own money

[ivory osprey]

Yeah that's a thing that happens in a lot of places

But it's the kinda thing where it's quite different to a point that there's a decent possibility that's covered by different laws

[pliant canopy]

i'd say depending on a country (Belgium and Netherlands mainly), whether SAR gets increased age rating or not, there are countries that would outlaw the idea of lootboxes and mystery boxes
making cosmetics behind a mystery box would certainly limit people from those countries to miss those out
which goes against Pixile's anti-FOMO ideology

[sullen willow]

a school's event is not globally visible the way a huge multiplayer game on steam is

and yes... sar is considered big in comparison to 95% of steam games

[livid imp]

I love it

[humble cedar]

we already have enough gambling in rebel cache and mole crate

[livid imp]

I meant the design

Not the concept

It'd fit Xmas

Maybe mole crate can be an Xmas gift box?

[tropic rune]

Maybe a Christmas crate?

Fire name

[low patio]

Yeah, gambeling that doesn't involve spending credits is fine.  Good for adding randomness to game.  Gambling spending tickets or even Carl Coin is not.

[cunning fern]

gamblin=yes

[prisma cargo]

No gambling please.

[cunning fern]

pwease

[prisma cargo]

Fine. No gambling pwease.

[cunning fern]

yAY :3

[placid osprey]

pretty sure loot boxes are banned in many countries...

adding a feature that would then be excluded for some players doesn't seem fair

also I don't like the idea of introducing loot boxes to a game that's aimed at an audience that's 13+

[ivory osprey]

Ye
Either: The cosmetics have to be earnt another way for those places (then why bother with the lootboxes)
Or: People in those countries can't get the cosmetics (really bad and would not be liked)

[sacred flint]

oh but fifa gets away with it JUST fine due to some sizeable generous """""dontations"""""

[ivory osprey]

lol

[low patio]

All profits go to charity! *(After a 95% processing fee by EA Pay)

*Charities include a large number of political think tanks.

[low patio]

"Citizens for Innovative Markets in Gaming"

[balmy rock]

i like this idea

[gentle gust]

I think not; If you’re going to do boxes, keep em in Carl Coins/progression

and not SAW tickets since it’s basically gambling with real money

[cunning fern]

ye

[low patio]

I prefer the random drop like we have now.  No boxes.

However, making the random drop list include some of the carl's cart items wouldn't be bad.

[rocky cliff]

I remember Crowbcat's video about this where he shows the gambling aspect of Counter Strike. Not a fan of this suggestion, sorry, winning items by random chance ain't it!

[sacred sierra]

This is such a bad idea, I don't think gambling is something that should not even be considered in SAR.

[cunning fern]

but i love gambling

[sullen willow]

unfortunately it's a sensitive thing