#Players

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verbal saffron
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like

dusky barn
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as for comp, once the SAW update is done, we could experiment with a ranked solo first.

verbal saffron
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like

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juste a beta system

dusky barn
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Umbra*

verbal saffron
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with full bugs

verbal saffron
dusky barn
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ah, i see

verbal saffron
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but umbra is litteraly the person making comp living

dusky barn
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bless you umbra 🙏 💛

verbal saffron
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i would love to

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but im switch

dusky barn
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and? you can still play

verbal saffron
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and i asked for a wheel of commands

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i mean to host

dusky barn
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unless you have issue with the hour the games are hosted

verbal saffron
dusky barn
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aaah host you mean

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got it

verbal saffron
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as an eu player

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its midnight

rustic cloak
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This game is like... graphic for casual players but gameplay for comp players lol

dusky barn
verbal saffron
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:/

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or either i would cook everyone 😎jk

brisk plank
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Ranked isn’t going to add any new players

verbal saffron
dusky barn
verbal saffron
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chiitan aint either

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just ranked would keep comp AND casuals

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as getting clapped by jag pros aint funny

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but ig we prefer a ded game

brisk plank
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There’s not enough players for a ranked mode, that will just make all the modes dead because not enough playing normal royale

verbal saffron
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😭

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bro

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16 players ranked

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on saw vs revellion map

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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there are some solutions

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but the community doesnt care

dusky barn
verbal saffron
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look 2 suggest for the feedback

rustic cloak
verbal saffron
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while there are 40 for cosmetics

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are we being fr

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people likes more desing than the gale

brisk plank
verbal saffron
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game

verbal saffron
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PLEASE

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ur not him

dusky barn
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you can stop trolling

verbal saffron
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idk if u realize what ur saying

brisk plank
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U don’t know how popular Chiitan is

dusky barn
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Bro

verbal saffron
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ook i give up

dusky barn
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okay let's entertain your idea

brisk plank
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Because clearly it would be more than 64 people

verbal saffron
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see ya in 2 hours

dusky barn
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let's say chiitan gets added, only AS would see any change

verbal saffron
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when it will be more chill

dusky barn
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what about NA? what about EU? nothing for them

verbal saffron
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eu on 300

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but k

dusky barn
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Chiitan won't do anything globally

verbal saffron
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(it wont do nothing )

brisk plank
dusky barn
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SAR had tons of people in the past, plenty of both casual and comp players that have left the game as they have done everything in the game

verbal saffron
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💀

dusky barn
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more content and ways to keep them hooked is key

verbal saffron
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i give up

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cya

verbal saffron
brisk plank
dusky barn
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yeah i'm done

verbal saffron
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yyh sma

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😭

rustic cloak
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Sorry I lost my temper 💔

verbal saffron
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:Chadge:

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hhonestly

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idk how can u even thi nk that

rustic cloak
verbal saffron
frigid fractal
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Side-note: SvR is the last mode I'd consider as being ranked-appropriate. Closest one can do is try for a pre-formed 'company' v 'company' - where it would make sense for companies to have rankings - and figure out a NFL-style coverage of player stats (gonna set my biases aside for a moment).

Meaning up to 24 players per side - with (yes, I know how unlikely and unwieldy that is). I wonder if 12v12 (with 6 reserves per side) would be doable as a format.

latent urchin
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For SvR to be ranked-appropriate, teams need to be smaller, and contribution calculators need updating (flag defence is not a measured metric!)

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Even Bwoking would be more suitable as a ranked mode

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Although it is the one that benefits from it the least

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Since having skilled players doesn't necessarily mean skilled opponents

frigid fractal
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I stopped typing because I realized you were talking about day to day ranking of players in SvR.
Main issue is that each player is dependent on 23 other players to carry their weight. In squads - at least that's down to three. Yes, I can see Bwoking being even more chaotic than even SvR.

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(and RNG doesn't help its case)

latent urchin
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No, it applies to any ranking

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The basic idea of rank-based matchmaking is that you're supposed to have a higher rank for skillful playing, yes?

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But it's presently quite difficult to gauge skill in SvR. You can't just count kills, it is possible for a faction to win despite having more casualties

frigid fractal
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The purpose of matchmaking is to ensure relatively even matches while ranks, or elo ratings, are supposed to give an idea of abstractly how one player's performance will generally be expected to be - and this theoretically can be used to ensure even matches.

dusky barn
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SvR and Ranked don't go together

verbal saffron
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i leant

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solo ranked

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but on svr maps

wintry vigil
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ai?

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that wasnt even really a new suggestion its been discussed a lot in this thread alone

frigid fractal
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Improved AI doesn't hurt for a number of these, true.

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Also - solo-ranked on SvR still doesn't change the fact that each player is a hostage to the other 23 players on the team.

regal hound
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That ranked would only be reserved for battle royale

frigid fractal
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Oh in that case I am more inclined to agree.

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Comp can exist - but on a macro-team vs macro-team basis - similar to team sports.

wintry vigil
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why is bwoking and svr ranked even being considered

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in this forum*

desert root
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i mean this has gone off topic a solid 3 times already so I'm not surprised

wintry vigil
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99% of that was that random guy frothing at the mouth for a japanese internet personality to collab with sar

gentle silo
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There have been many ideas brang by everyone to bring players to the game and keep them active

trail bloom
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things that you shouldn't ask a sar player:
"how to bring people to this game"

frigid fractal
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Expanding on the story (or stories) that take(s) place in the context of the in-game universe, would probably appeal to a fair number of persons.

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The comics of TF2 didn't hurt its popularity.

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Although in SAW's case, probably smaller story arcs centering on sub-plots or particular characters - and dropping little bits of in-game lore along the way.

verbal saffron
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honestly

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i take any upgrade

fervent quartz
verbal yoke
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this chat cant be that long😭

woven coyote
fervent quartz
verbal yoke
wintry vigil
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well..

desert root
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yeah i don't think people really bother checkmarking discussion posts anymore

fervent quartz
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true

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this is more of a discussion sooo

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there's not really anything to checkmark lmao

woven coyote
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The discussion is a lot more important than the votes generally

fervent quartz
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true

regal hound
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Knowing why people think they do is definitely more important than a blanket yes/no

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Because sometimes people explain why they think something it turns out the underlying issue is something different than what they were trying to say but didn't realize it so the best solution is something outside of the box

frigid fractal
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This is another tangent on the players question. Just a thought that occurred to me:

For Oceania players - perhaps peer-hosted matches?

How this would work is that players would select 'OR' (Other Region) - which would open up the possibility of serving as a host for matches - or joining the peer-hosted instance of another player.

Ideally this would involve prioritizing players with a high overall ping to all existing servers.

This would likely need to be processed differently:

  • Client side authentication of in-game events
  • Bot behaviour processing would likely be distributed among players.
  • Ability to switch host if an eligible other host exists.
wintry vigil
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lunar vine
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I just popped into this forum afar a while. For me, yeah the game is losing players and everything is hinged on a big update. I can see where the devs are going with a casual mode as well. The BR game loop has also grown stale on me, and I've done everything there is to do bar getting more animals, so I've stopped actively playing for now.

However i am interested as to a post-SAW future, and what is to happen to the current modes. Will the new player experience be improved? Will there be more interesting things that break the BR loop?

lunar vine
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Which can be hilariously laggy

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Because while server infrastructure is optimised to be as smooth as possible, your network at home probably isn't, since your computer is the one hosting and then the first hop is wireless occasionally

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And can you imagine a Nintendo switch hosting a 64 player Royale game