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#Erel Light
steel smelt
That was chaos horntail not battle analysis
timid zinc
🤡
steel smelt
🤨
timid zinc
That was chaos horntail not battle analysis
its battle analisys from horntail 🤡
timid zinc
Nah nvm
steel smelt
I can do a battle analysis later
quasi spindle
This is ridiculous, gotta be photoshopped
steel smelt
What
Once again it was chaos horntail
Ill do a battle analysis thing in like 20mins and show what it looks like
It definitely wont be 15,000 lines lmao
@quasi spindle @timid zinc
Feel better now? Haha
timid zinc
This is ridiculous, gotta be photoshopped
its battle analisys from chaos horntail. multi target
I tested it here and it gave the same thing, 16k hit count. but in single it's only 2k or something like that
pine ember
@steel smelt can I see your nodes pls
pine ember
tyyyyy @steel smelt
thin swan
nice bro
steel smelt
I want to hit 10m cp finally haha
Later I will make up a guide for Erel with Hyperskills and Vmatrix for training/farming/bossing and compile into single post since everything seems so "scattered"
steel smelt
Npp
thick smelt
cyan terrace
Hey! Can I get some feedback on these? What am I doing right/wrong and how can I improve? Should I switch some things up etc?
steel smelt
Take a look at my nodestones might be ideal
steel smelt
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frank hemlock
damn Brandon really taking over the Erel channel haha nice
steel smelt
Erel Guide
Jewel Sets
Set 1 - x5 Experience Gain (Yellow) [Edge of Space/Star Force maps]
Set 2 - x5 Item Drop (Yellow) [Arcane River Maps]
Skill Sets Type B <Farming and Bossing>
Preset 1
- Spear of Lugh
- Sting of Roan
- Fury of Roan
Slot 1: Preset <Farming and Bossing>
Slot 2: Charge of Fion
Slot 3: Path of Fion
Slot 4: Rope Lift (Auto Battle) // Weapon Aura // Blink <Bossing>
Slot 5: Sentinel Rise
Slot 6: Eternal Guardian
Slot 7: Impulse of Chulainn (iFrame)
Slot 8: Destruction of Roan (Burst/iFrame)
Bossing Skill Usage
Engage boss start with Sentinel Rise and Eternal Guardian.
Use Preset to deal damage and get buff Eternal Light
Once Eternal Light activated cast and hold Destruction of Roan
While Destruction of Roan is on cooldown use preset for attacking
Use Impulse of Chulainn to deal damage and or use to avoid one shot mechanics!
Blink/Path of Fion to avoid boss mechanics, charge of fion can be used to teleport to boss such as Vellum to run behind boss to avoid attacks just be aware that using charge of fion teleports you into mob touch damage.
Hyperskills
- Spear of Lugh - Reinforce
- Spear of Lugh - Extra Strike
- Spear of Lugh - Boss Rush
- Fury of Roan - Reinforce Duration
- Sting of Roan - Reinforce Duration
V-Matrix (Perfect Trios
Perfect Trio 1
- Increased Spear of Lugh/Call to Sentinels Final DMG
- Increased Fury of Roan/Sting of Roan's Final DMG
- Increased piercing damage of Chulainn's Final DMG
Perfect Trio 2
- Increased Piercing of Chulainn's Final DMG
- Increased Spear of Lugh/Call to Sentinel's Final DMG
- Increased Fury of Roan/Sting of Roan's Final DMG
V-Matrix (Node Selection)
Training/Farming
Slot 1 : Perfect Trio 1
Slot 2: Perfect Trio 2
Slot 3: Destruction of Roan
Slot 4: Sentinel Rise
Slot 5: Eternal Guardian
Slot 6: Eternal Light
Slot 7: Rope Lift
Slot 8: Impenetrable Skin
Slot 9: Weapon Aura / Decent Holy Symbol
Bossing
Slot 1 : Perfect Trio 1
Slot 2: Perfect Trio 2
Slot 3: Destruction of Roan
Slot 4: Sentinel Rise
Slot 5: Eternal Guardian
Slot 6: Eternal Light
Slot 7: Blink
Slot 8: Impenetrable Skin / Decent Sharp Eyes / Fatal Strike 1
Slot 9: Weapon Aura / Decent Hyper Body
If anyone see's something here or has recommendations I can go back and edit this but this is what I've been using on my Erel since release.
graceful stone
**Erel Guide**
**Jewel Sets**
Set 1 - x5 Experience Gain (Yellow) [Edge of Space...
On your jewel set 3, PDI is actually blue jewels. Red is PA, which is useless.
Some prefer BA (purple) to match flames.
A long long time ago, which might be irrelevant now, some have made speed (blue) jewels for farming.
steel smelt
On your jewel set 3, PDI is actually blue jewels. Red is PA, which is useless.
S...
Good to know!
I removed that off the guide 😛
main horizon
**Erel Guide**
**Jewel Sets**
Set 1 - x5 Experience Gain (Yellow) [Edge of Space...
Any graphic summary?
fossil yacht
steel smelt
Wdym by graphic summary?
unreal osprey
Draw a comic
mild crystal
Thanks Brandon
steel smelt
Why did they think black heaven act3 ep5 would be fun?
steel smelt
These swipe mechanics dont even work
lofty perch
They do, but it’s really fidgety.
I had the most consistent results just swiping back and forth quite slowly.
The indicators make it seem like you would want to go fast, but the UI just ends up not recognizing it.
graceful stone
Good thing you only need to do it once now 
lofty perch
Good thing you only need to do it once now <:PikaUhhh:923230090861613066>
Being new, I only ever had to do it once.
Thoughts and prayers to the multi-Lotus farmers out there from days gone.
steel smelt
But yea the flying minigame was terrible the hit boxes are crazy bad lol
😂
Took me like 9 tried at the boss to beat it smh
Ya i feel bad for anyone who has completed this multiple times this content is horrible
lofty perch
I just did it for the first time a few weeks back when the sweep feature got announced.
Wasn’t worth my time before that, even on my main, because uh, yeah, gon’ be a while before I can be even remotely useful in a Lotus group.
steel smelt
I saw some person in flex chat who beat lotus in like 4mins on erel with bad gear
Pretty sure its not true tho
I think they got carried
Even with my gear/nodes/hskills i couldnt even solo Hard Root Abyss because damage wasnt high enough
lofty perch
Definitely did get carried.
Given Lotus’ HP pool, you’re looking at something like 890m dps to clear in that timeframe, even ignoring mechanics stuff, on Single mode.
So yeah, no, that’s not a thing for a badly geared Erel.
steel smelt
In hard root abyss i got the bosses down to like 10% hp left and then it kicked me out
I mean ik my gear isnt the best but its better than what they posted
mild crystal
What does your bag currently look like? And stats?
steel smelt
?
mild crystal
Gear and stats?
upbeat ember
I think they got carried
single lotus i think
random snow
@steel smelt how much did u invest in nodestone lol
hallow leaf
I saw some person in flex chat who beat lotus in like 4mins on erel with bad gea...
multi lotus 180b is not getting "carried" doing only 60b is getting carried
but you definitely need friends/guildies to be able to find a party since pub for some reason dont take "low stats" people even tho they meet the requirements
but i guess its still considered carrying since the team can prob still do it without 1 or 2 members, just taking a longer time
hallow leaf
In hard root abyss i got the bosses down to like 10% hp left and then it kicked ...
btw better gear does not mean more dmg, one necro wep can beat full emblem mythic set because you simply cant crit enough to do dmg, necro wep itself gives you the ability to fully crit and do alot more dmg
steel smelt
Wasnt an insult just seemed weird and the way you worded it was like you soloed lotus haha
steel smelt
<@308992182575169537> how much did u invest in nodestone lol
Near 1bil
I used all exp nodes on burst skill from events
hallow leaf
Wasnt an insult just seemed weird and the way you worded it was like you soloed ...
I think I will never be able to solo lotus not anytime soon 😂
Did you buff 50s for root abyss? I think with the free wep it might be possible
abstract cape
evening, may i enquire what is the BIS for Erel's helm potential? Is the meta now steered towards HP% or Physical Attack Increase %
steel smelt
Did you buff 50s for root abyss? I think with the free wep it might be possible
I can't solo hard root abyss yet normals probably super easy
Almost can solo hard root abyss but havent tried since reaching over 10mil cp
Tbh if i had more nodestones in my bossing set might be better but not gonna invest in those rn cause i have a guild where we run hards/chaos together
hallow leaf
I can't solo hard root abyss yet normals probably super easy
I saw your nodes it’s super good, I’m pretty sure your erel can do more than 60b in multi lotus with the crit or fd special node
steel smelt
I dont have a record for hard hilla yet as i carried someone through norm hilla multi
hallow leaf
Maybe I should try solo some too for fun but multi has ra coins which are important ahha
steel smelt
Are the RA coins mostly for the boss pots?
Im relatively new to the game when it comes to bossing and root abyss
steel smelt
evening, may i enquire what is the BIS for Erel's helm potential? Is the meta no...
Tbh i would recommend HP as a solid option because once your burst on cooldown your damage falls off where survival is most critical. For long-term maybe physical but considering the burst is only so long with such a long cooldown i it makes sense for HP
hallow leaf
Im relatively new to the game when it comes to bossing and root abyss
A few things that are important from currency shop imo
RA:
- fever
- PE
- buffs
- ring
- scrolls every month
Legends
- PE (only buy after buying the legends badge)
mulung (only after the 2 pendant)
- PE
- ACP
steel smelt
What is PE im not ingame atm sorry
hallow leaf
Hp best till you reach 240k after that you don’t need much more already I think
hallow leaf
What is PE im not ingame atm sorry
Power elixir
hallow leaf
It’s good to stock them up early, you will need a lot of them next time 😂 and good thing is that if you start stocking up now you don’t have to buy with mesos in the future
steel smelt
I been to lazy to do my alt chars for hyperskills such as kaiser and mercedes smh
Been focused on leveling erel almost 206
hallow leaf
Links and legion are super important it gives you a lot of stats
abstract cape
Tbh i would recommend HP as a solid option because once your burst on cooldown y...
thank you for your kind inputs.
steel smelt
Just trying to help my recommendations are based entirely off my experience that and lack of information for Erel
abstract cape
Just trying to help my recommendations are based entirely off my experience that...
no worries, we are all still exploring! 😄
steel smelt
Honestly though i thought erel was a bad class to play, once 200+ it really shines
Honestly the contribution that erel does for bossing groups is amazing
My strategy for bossing in chaos expids are start with CHT burst kills horntail in 1 hit. Move to Czak and auto attack when fire on ground use the second iFrame and kill it. Later i do solo cPB but make sure your skills are barely visible so you can see reflect skill 🙂 same for chaos empress
😂
Chaos horntail
hallow leaf
My strategy for bossing in chaos expids are start with CHT burst kills horntail ...
Actually you can usually find carries when it resets, a lot of mains qj pub after reset so it will make your cxep a lot faster
hallow leaf
evening, may i enquire what is the BIS for Erel's helm potential? Is the meta no...
Btw you might want to wait for a czak helm before upgrading (unless you already have it) it’s the best helm to use until you get a main helm
hallow leaf
I dont QJ often because when i do expiditions its mostly sia bots joining
Damm I didn’t know they join expes I usually see a lot of erels and some mains 😂
steel smelt
18:00 expids QJs are all bots
hallow leaf
Rip that actually sucks
steel smelt
Its ok haha
Ive been unfortunate in boss loot took me over a week to get my unique HT necklace
Now i can do hard HT until my chaos HT drops start happening haha
For now im at a dead end gear progression wise. Mainly just boss gear starforces and time for Root Abyss exaltions if possible
Unless i move to eclectic but even then upgrading those are awful
Would be better to upgrade my exp gain set to item drop and earn gold off selling nodestones since nodestones dont really help burst skill much
hallow leaf
For now im at a dead end gear progression wise. Mainly just boss gear starforces...
I think nodes help your dmg a ton
Hopefully you can start doing pharaoh soon that will help progress you faster
hallow leaf
Just have to kill mobs -> collect loot -> go next stage -> fuse gear equip purple -> kill boss every week buy 60 ancient wep shards, every 3 week attempt necro on your wep
steel smelt
Is it auto or nah
Cause if not auto then ill have to plan a day to manually play for a bit
grizzled pawn
Cause if not auto then ill have to plan a day to manually play for a bit
Manual 
hallow leaf
Is it auto or nah
honestly a pain to do at first LOL
i think season is reseting soon, takes about 2-3 hours for the first full clear stage 1-3 + challenge stage, but after that about 10mins every week
graceful stone
steel smelt
i think season is reseting soon, takes about 2-3 hours for the first full clear ...
Its bad enough doing blockbusters to unlock bosses
hallow leaf
but pharoh is really a game changer, makes you get your necro attempt every 3 weeks compared to liek 3 months LOL
hallow leaf
Its bad enough doing blockbusters to unlock bosses
yeah.................. its really painful ngl
hallow leaf
necro wep is your best bet, like you dont even need armour, your main prio should be wep first
i think the reddit guide shoulda lso be similar
steel smelt
Well i have root abyss armor on my erel atm anyways so my armor is my least priority
hallow leaf
if you can get the 2% scroll every month from the path of proof + using the event scroll thats like extra 4-6% rate on necro + refined total 8-10% necro tries every month
without necro wep you can still do full crits with a jahin wep if u pump hyper crit + wep soul crit + legion crit i think with the carrot 30% and ty buff (or close to 100% crits)
steel smelt
Its something i'll look into but im curious how necro works on that erel weap we got
But yea ill do pharaoh stuff soon and see what its all about
random snow
7 tries failed on necro
quasi spindle
7 tries failed on necro
Lel
quasi spindle
without necro wep you can still do full crits with a jahin wep if u pump hyper c...
Hyper crit is a massive waste
Also, you’re neglecting that necro weapon has significantly more attack than inherit
lofty perch
Hyper crit is a massive waste
Exactly this.
Just between my legion, carrot juice and Tang’s Noodle soup, I was sitting at 97.5% crit rate when fully buffed as a Paladin for solo bosses this morning.
Obviously some classes will have it easier or harder without Fair Trade, but still never worth touching CR Hypers. Too costly to get anything meaningful out of it, especially when it’s something you’re going to want to undo later.
hallow leaf
Hyper crit is a massive waste
I def agree it’s not the worth but you’ll prob have to take what you have, not everyone can go for a necro wep, some classes that goes the chaos route won’t be able to fully crit without it and that’s what makes necro better, chaos 50 wep won’t do more much if it’s not criting as much even tho it has more attack
hallow leaf
Exactly this.
Just between my legion, carrot juice and Tang’s Noodle soup, I was...
That’s not enough to fully crit in harder bosses but it’s fine on daily bosses
glass hamlet
what's the priority to use these exp nodestones on?
assuming either eternal light or destruction of roan
frank hemlock
Exactly this.
Just between my legion, carrot juice and Tang’s Noodle soup, I was...
unless they release higher Crit Res bosses in the future
frank hemlock
I def agree it’s not the worth but you’ll prob have to take what you have, not e...
I was contemplating to do this haha with a Chaos weapon, luckily my Necro project worked so I didn't do it though
but agree with your point that if people chose to go Chaos weapon, any bits of Crit Rate matters
steel smelt
assuming either eternal light or destruction of roan
destruction of roan
unreal osprey
So tempted to open slots now instead of waiting 210
quasi spindle
So tempted to open slots now instead of waiting 210
Wait
You’ll regret opening early when you’re out of mesos
frank hemlock
So tempted to open slots now instead of waiting 210
nah 210 is doable , just wait
steel smelt
If you're going to unlock I would recommend unlocking and get holy blessing or whatever it's called for EXP gain
the buff is worth it imho
even if its level 1 it's still super worth it
quasi spindle
If you're going to unlock I would recommend unlocking and get holy blessing or w...
+1 on this
lofty perch
That’s not enough to fully crit in harder bosses but it’s fine on daily bosses
Oh, definitely not.
It’s not enough even if you were to sink the mesos into maxing Hyper Crit Rate either.
Hence, Fair Trade obviously being so important (on top of the obvious stat benefits from Necro).
steel smelt
I wouldn't invest mesos/hyper points into crit rate when FD/Max Dmg/Crit Dmg is more prominent when Crit rate can be upgraded through gear/jewels/legion way easier than hyperskills
but if you like wasting mesos then go crit hyperstats 🙂
There's a reason I haven't added hyperstats into the guide I made for Erel because it seems more or less on preference and what people can afford based on gear/weapons
I prefer ranking Crit Dmg to 10, FD 10, Max dmg 10, and move upwards from there as the cost for each is crazy high
hallow leaf
dont bother going cd if u are looking far, at level 235 you only have enough points to max fd,mdc,pdi,adi to level 25
cd hyper is useless btw, ba gives more than cd for hyper and theyscale the same if im not wrong
steel smelt
hence why i dont max my hyper skills and leave at 10 for now
cause idk enough about late game like that
and seems like a huge waste of gold to upgrade hyperskills when eventually will change
unreal osprey
If you're going to unlock I would recommend unlocking and get holy blessing or w...
Nah, if I can’t find bishop party I just switch char 🤣
unreal osprey
Full exp pot
unreal osprey
You cap at 350%
steel smelt
waste of gold/usd
unreal osprey
Just want to open the slots and farm lomien soon
Need more subs going to lotus at least
hallow leaf
hence why i dont max my hyper skills and leave at 10 for now
isnt getting crit rate to rank 10 the same? at the end of the day you will still be resetting, but anyways there are alot of ways to cheese your dmg, using lethal strike and timing it with roan makes your burst alot stronger, you can even do 60b in multi lotus with just a mythic wep
hallow leaf
its not okay if you dont get 2% contri for the drops
unreal osprey
2% can be done without 100% crit
steel smelt
I'm not really sure level 10 crit in hyperstats is worth more than others
unreal osprey
So many ppl running inherit subs in lomien now
hallow leaf
So many ppl running inherit subs in lomien now
thats inherit, im saying its possible to do it mythic with the correct setup
unreal osprey
My DA sub was hitting 150b+ in 3min+ lotus
unreal osprey
thats inherit, im saying its possible to do it mythic with the correct setup
Just inherit instead of doing random hypers
hallow leaf
1 try every 3 weeks (assuming u start doing pharoh) if not 1 try every 3 months from cdd? 😂
you can def just buy a wep and do which works as well
steel smelt
p_p
unreal osprey
Easiest way
unreal osprey
Time to change server
steel smelt
I play inosys
unreal osprey
While erel event still on
steel smelt
Time to change server
that's insane
hallow leaf
Time to change server
+1
unreal osprey
🤣
steel smelt
I would rather quit.
unreal osprey
that's insane
Not going to get better
Why stay
New players always ask which servers and people will recommend them away from yours
steel smelt
I have 0 interest in starting over
steel smelt
idk why inosys so dead compared to other servers but definitely not gonna move lool
unreal osprey
NA only scania, otherwise only Asia has players
unreal osprey
Even low pop servers like a2croa probably has more players than inosys lol
Idk how ppl play there unless they super whales
steel smelt
p_p
unreal osprey
So much of the top end crafting stuff made cheaper by whales finishing their stuff first
steel smelt
idk I just play the game casually and won't probably ever hit high stats like others 😛
unreal osprey
Also let’s mid game players sell those stuff to whales at the start
steel smelt
i just enjoy being able to logon for a few minutes do my dailies/bosses on my Erel and logoff
and seeing my progression as I start being able to beat other bosses
hallow leaf
Just chaos and sell
btw you cant sell erel wep so its prob not an option
abstract cape
Hit a necro on my first attempt today!!! 🫨🫨 (snap forget to take a photo, got too excited and started exalting and upgrading till im out of materials)
terse karma
only 2? wow thats easy
steel smelt
So crazy people are trying mastercrafts but at like a 2% chance
quasi spindle
Hit a necro on my first attempt today!!! 🫨🫨 (snap forget to take a photo, got ...
Bruh
abstract cape
Bruh
was supposed to be day#1 of necro project with 2 attempts to begin with.. jumped up from my chair when it passed 😅
random snow
10B for weapon justified??
random snow
Looks solid
steel smelt
its nice 😛
random snow
its nice 😛
I don’t think I can inherit after doing 7 attempts for necro
@steel smelt how much exp u getting ?
I got 18% in 7 hrs
steel smelt
Uh
i dont really pay attention to my exp to be honest
but its not that much
gimme a sec i'll check my screenshots and see if i can see exp
i was level 205 98.00% yesterday at 10:42am. 46% ish right now. so uhm 20%/12hours ish
23-25% ish
@random snow
steel smelt
Edge of Space 1hour and the rest in Arcane
i use full exp gear (mythic pensalir) in edge of space then swap to Main gear with exp accessories for Arcane
upbeat ember
only 2? wow thats easy
yuh
im still having some pot issues
still not overnightable yet
random snow
still not overnightable yet
I faced the same issue for 2 nights
grim plinth
hi, which v5 skill node should i prioritise to use the exp nodes?
proud shard
Which Vnodes should we lvl up first?
random snow
The burst skill. Destruction of Roan
steel smelt
So i believe erel can max out at 20seconds of iframe which is pretty huge
Impenetrable aura node adds 3second iframe to your belt
Satisfying video to watch
random snow
Difference in dps? From mythic r ancient ?
steel smelt
Theres a difference but i cant see tell between czak and cht due to them dying so fast
steel smelt
but myth40 my weapon capped at like 11k dmg and my ancient weapon at level 18 is @ 13k dmg rn
upbeat ember
but myth40 my weapon capped at like 11k dmg and my ancient weapon at level 18 is...
13k pa?
steel smelt
ye
upbeat ember
How is your gear like?
upbeat ember
Ah icic
steel smelt
no the weapon stats sorry
im working on my alts atm so im not on my erel to answer your question
frank hemlock
i have 14mil CP
CP is pointless, dont use it as a benchmark for anything
steel smelt
i know its not a benchmark
i just know it rose my stats 2million cp more when I equipped my weapon from myth40
and my damage sky rocketed
frank hemlock
it doesn't tell you anything meaningful
saying PA is better even
15k, 20k 25k 30k 40k all significant benchmarks
steel smelt
im not on my erel atm to determine if my PA went up crazily
frank hemlock
Mythic40 with some AF symbols will be around ~15k PA
upbeat ember
no the weapon stats sorry
Ah okok
quasi spindle
CP is pointless, dont use it as a benchmark for anything
Not pointless- it’s worth trying to get CP up if you want to get into auto join parties
steel smelt
I had to many upgrades completed yesterday and today that it's hard to state how much PA went up
finished my boss set and got multiple emblem upgrades yesterday
frank hemlock
it means something but just in general I dont see the point of using it
you can just artificially boost it up with Crit rates and hp or whatever
frank hemlock
Not pointless- it’s worth trying to get CP up if you want to get into auto join ...
what does that even mean
am I missing something O.o
steel smelt
you can set filters on QJ based on CP
frank hemlock
no one does that in my server haha
quasi spindle
what does that even mean
Daily auto join Ark runs, NMAG, HMAG have a minimum CP sometimes
quasi spindle
no one does that in my server haha
Then CP pointless
frank hemlock
its just whether you can do the 2% or not to be carried
and that has more to do with damage rather than CP
steel smelt
you're both correct.
patent trout
Any idea Exp Nodes use to enhance which V skill first?
torn juniper
first one bro
fossil yacht
oh man im back
fossil yacht
autumn lynx
Should I prioritze using skill nodes or boost nodes?
steel smelt
I made a guide for erel
steel smelt
**Erel Guide**
**Jewel Sets**
Set 1 - x5 Experience Gain (Yellow) [Edge of Space...
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focus the trios first then after trios do your burst
depending on your ability to obtain nodes / if you buy them you want to focus your trios and then dump exp nodes into burst
worthy cargo
can i necro the item burning weapon? will i be able to exalt further beyond lv40 after necro?
lofty perch
can i necro the item burning weapon? will i be able to exalt further beyond lv40...
Yes, it can be necroed. Yes, the exalt and SF limits increase when successful.
All of the Burning aspects go away, so make sure it’s fully exalted, emblemed, etc. before doing so, as these items will no longer work.
The only real disadvantage is scissor count will forever be 0, so no way to ever transfer or sell it.
worthy cargo
yep got it ty
steel smelt
🙂
night echo
Hello! Which hyper stats should I add for erel?
steel smelt
i did max damage/final damage/crit damage/deals additional skill dmg upon attacking
final dmg:22
max dmg: 14
phys dmg: 10
crit dmg: 11
deals additional: 10
I need to reset my skills but waiting when I have a ton of mesos
if that helps any.
alpine moon
Don't add CD hyper stats
steel smelt
It was early on and can't reset due to lack of mesos for me 🙂
night echo
final dmg:22
max dmg: 14
phys dmg: 10
crit dmg: 11
deals additional: 10
I need ...
So all listed minus crit damage?
steel smelt
its to bad nexon doesn't refund your mesos back from hyperskills when you reset
probably could skip phys damage also
final dmg and max dmg is critical for erel
night echo
final dmg and max dmg is critical for erel
Extra hit counts impt?
steel smelt
it helps
alpine moon
It was early on and can't reset due to lack of mesos for me 🙂
still prefer to keep the point and slowly farm for mesos
steel smelt
still prefer to keep the point and slowly farm for mesos
that's why i haven't reset 😛
alpine moon
So all listed minus crit damage?
yeah just minus cd
steel smelt
it's like 1billion mesos per 1-20 or something weird like that
steel smelt
yea later
when i get 1bil mesos again whenever that happens
almost level 208 on my erel
lofty perch
Are you actually capping at this point to warrant the MDC and ADI points?
No clue what the rest of your gear and nodes look like, but that seems nuts to be happening already without a LOT of funding (and with an inherit weapon to boot).
Obviously not saying to reset them because they’re needed eventually, and no need to eat cost to put it back later.
More just curious as to whether it was actually capping, or if this was another case of those two stats being considered the “done thing” without realizing that they’re pretty much useless outside of proper context.
steel smelt
With the content that I can do, I would say my damage is capped out but it's also hard to tell
lofty perch
You can check in the Fog Forest thing. The analysis at the end will tell you your biggest hit for each skill.
If it’s not at least 17m (the new “base” damage cap as of December), the MDC points are completely wasted.
My MDC is currently 19.5m or so just from Legion levels, and I’m fairly sure the largest hit I’ve landed so far isn’t even half of that (23/40 Emblem Jahin, L20+ V nodes, blah blah etc).
steel smelt
I haven't really checked my stats at Fog in a bit
kinda waiting for a full dmg test after next set of bosses
lofty perch
Also see how much the ADI stat is really giving you.
I didn’t realize how useless that stat is until you’re regularly capping until I ran Fog Forest tests.
It was basically nothing. Did less damage in the entire minute than a single Blast does for my paladin.
steel smelt
meanwhile my weapons is only level 20 i think
19 😛
i guess i could run a dps check rn
@lofty perch
lofty perch
Yeah, you’re absolutely nowhere near needing either of those stats.
Not a huge deal since they’ll be needed later, but I am finding it to be a common trap for newer players.
Mathing old stuff out (yeah, I’m weird), once upon a time, the game’s base MDC was low enough that you needed that stat even in emblem mythics. Those days are mostly gone unless you’re like 230+ with a buttload of attack from Arcanes, maxed V-skills, etc.
steel smelt
going forward dumping into additional/phys would be better then?
lofty perch
I’m sure you left that screen by now. I’d be curious to see where the ADI showed up on there.
If it’s anything like it was for my Paladin (pretty much at the bottom and a useless amount), I wouldn’t touch that for a while either.
Probably better off just sticking to FD/Phys for a long while.
I personally avoided all of that nonsense by just making my initial Hyper layout pure item duration/exp/pexp, and I’ll build a second Hyper set when my gear/nodes/level warrants it.
steel smelt
well final damage is 22/25
phys: 10/25
so it's quite possible to just max final damage then do phys atp
lofty perch
Given the cost to return, you’d probably be better off running Phys up to around 15 before touching Final again. Ultimately though, you end up in the same place, so no real harm in doing FD first either.
steel smelt
probably just do phys damage
it's not like I'll be anywhere near progressing towards Ark+ bosses anyways cause now I'm in the stages of permanent exaltions lolol
lofty perch
Yeeeah, I know them feels.
About to start trying my first cracks at Necro on my weapon after this weekend of AB is done. Until that passes, I’m on that long slow ride of Hmag being the highest thing I have any business messing with. Hah.
I mean, I COULD do Ark, but I wouldn’t be a meaningful enough contributor to warrant being there over anyone who isn’t a total deadweight carry.
And since I still have my main just puttering around in my Legion guild, I have to deal with pubbie boss runs, and ah hells nah.
frank hemlock
actually the more important stats to you is Crit Rate @steel smelt esp using inherit/chaos weapon, whenever you can have an extra Vmatrix slot, you can craft Lethal Strike 4 for +50% for 15s every 30s or something
sure your lines are nowhere near capping but even doing Nmag or HRA/CRA they all have crit res
50% crit rate base + 50% from buffs + 10% fever + 50% from LS4 is decent
assuming you use your burst during the LS4 window
that's what i did with my non-Necro alt and I can still do Nmag and even Hmag eventually with higher AFs for PA+nodes/vskills
Decent Sharp Eyes is good too for 6% crit rate, 12% CD assuming you have the slot for it
was an Inherit-Chaos user so I was obsessed with Crit Rate xd
lofty perch
I can certainly appreciate this as someone still using an emblem myth Jaihin.
I have been camping the market for a while now looking for a decent base for a Sirius cape and Noble shoulders.
The wording for THIS stat still annoys me though, because it has to either be the worst translation job in history, or most of the posts I have seen are wrong about what it does. XD
steel smelt
i thought crit atk was base crit dmg is higher
lofty perch
i thought crit atk was base crit dmg is higher
Which is in no way what that says, but it’s what I keep seeing being said by players.
frank hemlock
100 Crit Atk is ~ 1% crit rate
thats just what it is
why they made an entirely different stats for this?
we will never know
LOL
lofty perch
That’s kinda what I was figuring.
I’m wondering if it isn’t an artifact of an older part of the game where crit rate was capped at 100% no matter what, and it was a work around for dealing with crit res.
frank hemlock
i think I know now
last time iirc, Crit rate is hardcapped at 100%
and Fair Trade was just only 50% crit rate or something
maybe something to do with that haha
lofty perch
Entirely likely.
It definitely seems like some legacy code stuff that’s easier to just leave as is, rather than go messing with lines on swaths of items.
frank hemlock
either way, I found LS4 to be godsend for non-Necro weapon
sure you wont crit fully in Lotus above but 160% is pretty good in 15s with burst
steel smelt
what is ls4
frank hemlock
Lethal Strike 4
instead of increasing your IED like Defense Smash 4, it increases your crit rate by 50%
frank hemlock
very crucial in making your burst has full Crit lines
especially for Erel from my own testing
lofty perch
I honestly didn’t even look. Does Erel’s big burst Jesus statue of light hold button of doom have increase crit rate on it?
frank hemlock
nope
frank hemlock
yea Paladin is just on another level
lofty perch
It’s become my metric for “do I have any business messing with this boss solo?” If they don’t lose at least 25% of their hp during that, I should probably nope out. Hah.
frank hemlock
hahaha yep
frank hemlock
you proc by attacking
so when you see it procs (animation will have a V sign) or open your buff window to see it
you should buff + burst
steel smelt
I think the timing of that is gonna be hard to pair up with eternal
frank hemlock
I think so so I dont time it with Eternal
lofty perch
Not sure how it would translate for Erel, but when I am pushing to proc something as a Paladin, I just drop one V4, then spam Blast until DS4/LS4 procs, then trigger all buffs and drop the nukes.
frank hemlock
but everything else, I manually buff
man Paladin's buff is so op
burst
nutty class haha might swap to Paladin if Erel is kinda eh lel
steel smelt
how do you manually buff eternal
lofty perch
man Paladin's buff is so op
Divine is nasty, but only really shines in a group that isn’t full of, well, special people.
If the person I cast it on runs from the boss being a leeching goober, it’s mostly wasted.
lofty perch
Isn’t eternal the passive?
If so, you’d just need to figure out the animation to look for.
In my limited experience with Erel, you’d probably have better luck looking at the buff bar than trying to figure out “which shiny blue thing?”
steel smelt
and maybe i'm off base here but investing in crit rate for hyperskill wouldnt that be a waste
I'll try LS4 for sure i just crafted the node
lofty perch
I’d mark it as a “last resort” for hypers.
Between Legion grid (6%), Decent Sharp Eyes (6%), food buffs (50%), and LS4 (50%), you’re largely covered against anything before Ark.
Think Hmag has 50% resist, so your passives/gear/flames would need to come up with 38% to make up the difference entirely.
Honestly not something I have spent much time thinking about for Erel specifically. He ended up getting parked after I got him to 203 and just decided to stick with my Paladin for main.
frank hemlock
how do you manually buff eternal
no I meant, I dont try to time Eternal with the LS4+burst window
only the manualable buffs
steel smelt
Oh
Yea
I figured as much sad cause eternal light does stonks of damage
xD
Do i need to enhance LS4 or leave as Lv1
frank hemlock
Do i need to enhance LS4 or leave as Lv1
oh you never enchance special nodes
they expire in a week
so always extract them before they expire to get 20 points back
steel smelt
I didn't do anything I just crafted it tonight to try tomorrow
i am intrigued too see how much more it does
I guess next question is it proced from line damage or actual attack hits
like 50 basic attack
@frank hemlock
frank hemlock
<@192597466586152960>
pretty sure it's line
frank hemlock
yea the main cooldown is 30s after the 15s has finished
so yea depending on your burst cd windows, you can come up with a rotation that can be efficient with it
mild crystal
Check out Echo's videos on Erel
steel smelt
do you have a link?
mild crystal
steel smelt
thanks 😛
mild crystal
hes been posting vids on it since it came out, his 3rd main
@steel smelt watch this one https://youtu.be/SC-uSqB1vEQ?si=M0VThih58hvTwZZb
steel smelt
Yea that video is exactly explaining the way my Erel plays too
only thing I don't have are max nodestones because I can't afford that since I invested mesos into my gear/emblems, and hyperskills - now i'm trying to recover mesos back from those investments, had 700mil saved but dumped that into gears my bowmaster was missing for cED for stone farming on it, now I just gotta see if my pathfinder is able to farm AR maps. If I can farm AR on 3 accounts nodestones should come casually daily but yea my pathfinder kinda bad. That's until I have other level 200 characters for AR farming at least. Nodes are so costly when investing into them they are like 7mil a piece, and with the RNG on them the likelihood you get the nodes you need are low and extractions vs crafting is a net loss usually.
That and also investing mesos into AR is pretty costly too - but yea I would love to see his gear to see what he's using on his erel but I haven't seen any gear showcases yet.
upbeat ember
@steel smelt what map are you farming right now on your erel
upbeat ember
is that a good or bad thing?
steel smelt
<@308992182575169537> what map are you farming right now on your erel
Highest Ar i can do so Ar90?
steel smelt
Uh
i havent created a build yet that wouldn't consume HP pots
if that's what you're asking
I dabbled around with the Node that heals you 50% after a few hits but didn't keep doing so
otherwise - yeah, my Erel still consumes potions; didn't think you could get around that
steel smelt
steel smelt
yea empress and mastercrafted inherent on the event weapon
upbeat ember
oh u didn't necro?
steel smelt
I decided to try mastercraft for the first time ever on my account and it succeeded
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have a second mythic Gram that I will try to necro
eventually
upbeat ember
icic
steel smelt
but maxing out my inherent jaihan first to 40
its CD level 4 emblem
so most likely will end up just trying to make that my end game weapon
upbeat ember
i plan to try necro but if i fail that 3 times imma just keep it m40
steel smelt
with how low the rate of success is i didn't wanna risk that
rather have a progressed weapon to farm Root Abyss with easier
i don't have the alts setup yet to farm pink stones like crazy to try multiple necro attempts
Atp I would rather save up all those upgrade stones for necro and make ~25 attempts all at sametime if i can do that
upbeat ember
ur other weapon is tradable?
steel smelt
yea
is just not my focus point right now, my focus is leveling my erel to 210+ and working on my alts to a point where they can farm EDs for pink stones
and maxing out my inherent weapon atm while stocking up on powders for my next weapon
upbeat ember
good point
steel smelt
no sense in rushing for necro right now cause it does absolutely nothing for my account
Can't do ark+ with my current gear and the only way to progress my account is from farming resources to upgrade my RA armor
upbeat ember
u maxed ur nodes?
steel smelt
yea
upbeat ember
ahhh
steel smelt
pretty fast too
upbeat ember
pretty good
steel smelt
i can solo all commanders up til hard mag
autumn lynx
whats the difficulty order of the commanders?
steel smelt
i got added to a discord who does ark carries
upbeat ember
whats the difficulty order of the commanders?
according to the in game order
vl hilla mag ark lotus damien etc
worthy cargo
which node should i spend my erda experience nodes on for AB alts? one of the passive perfect trio node? or the sentinel buff
autumn lynx
oh that huge diff between vl and hilla
steel smelt
@autumn lynx Vonleon Normal ->chaos// Hilla ->Normal ->chaos // Magnus -> Normal
autumn lynx
ty
steel smelt
basically if you can solo Chaos PinkBean you can solo chaos Hilla
steel smelt
the gap from chaos hilla to Hmag is weird and some of us were talking about it last night
you can solo chaos von leon if you can beat nhilla
upbeat ember
oh okok i'll do that
steel smelt
just watch for reflective damage and kite boss
steel smelt
if you havent already set your skill opacity down
upbeat ember
my op only 3 bar haha
steel smelt
so you can see boss skill
upbeat ember
used to play on maxed
steel smelt
1 dot is zero
upbeat ember
im here
steel smelt
good
upbeat ember
3rd dot
steel smelt
do 2nd dot
upbeat ember
+1
steel smelt
3rd dot hard to see reflect
upbeat ember
okok later i chg 2nd
steel smelt
but you can kite von leon really easy
steel smelt
use path of fionn to freeze von leon
upbeat ember
do u bind after burst?
steel smelt
you can hit these bosses from far away on erel out of boss skill attack
upbeat ember
cuz destruction already iframe
steel smelt
i bind after bursts or when i need to
upbeat ember
same same
steel smelt
but realistically if you can beat solo nilla you should be able to chaos von leon
what jewels are you running
upbeat ember
oh?
steel smelt
and use crit rate set for bossing
steel smelt
you will want as much crit as possible to maximize your burst damage
steel smelt
thats without buff potions
add buff pots then I would be 80% crit chance with 267%+ crit dmg
steel smelt
all my accessories are built with souls for crit dmg and my emblems are crit dmg minus my cape which is boss attack
upbeat ember
my souls all exp hahaha
steel smelt
steel smelt
i run 2 armor sets
mythic pensalir from event this is my edge of space gear -> haven't tried in arcane fields.
then my CRA armor for everything else
I would rather sacrifice Exp then having to spam potions everyday
upbeat ember
im contemplating on buying top and bot
steel smelt
I'm waiting for better armor over the mythic pensali
for training
like tradeable versions of pensalir to build
upbeat ember
u spend right?
steel smelt
not anymore
upbeat ember
why not just aiming for i40
steel smelt
i did to start
steel smelt
but doesnt make sense to since buying doesn't really make any progression atp
not only that buying AB is just limiting my account from working on my Alts
steel smelt
i play on inosys and TS very limited
you pretty much have to make your own gear here
regardless I would rather have pensalir gear i can transfer between alt characters to upgrade faster
upbeat ember
yea that is the ideal plan tbh
but gonna take patience to farm and buy a tradable mythic
but its definitely worth it
steel smelt
most likely going to be fusing uniques until i get legendary pensalir
upbeat ember
legendary?
steel smelt
when i get legendary pensalir i can upgrade with stones to make mythic
upbeat ember
but then it will become untradable
steel smelt
huh
steel smelt
since when
upbeat ember
u didn't know?
steel smelt
I made a mythic demon avenger sword and kept swapping it around all my characters without scissors to level it
o.o
steel smelt
no it took me a month to make it
upbeat ember
it shows a notice when ranking up to mythic
steel smelt
but was years ago
upbeat ember
"item will be untradable"
upbeat ember
wow if back then is like this its hella abusable lol
autumn lynx
iirc always been lie that when ranking
"- Please note that once ranking up from Legendary to Mythic, the item will be not tradable."
steel smelt
Im pretty sure you can still trade mythic items between characters from ranking up
upbeat ember
tradable mythic is really expensive
thats why u buy from unique emblem
rank up to mythic
and pray during mastercraft
but then 3/3
HAHAHA
steel smelt
nah i've never had to use scissors on mythic item i've ranked up from legendary
can just trade between characters
unless you think im talking about trade station tradeable
but you can move mythic ranked up weapons through storage amongst your characters
unless they changed it
steel smelt
as long as you dont equip the mythic item
its not bound to character
after ranking it up
upbeat ember
ya
wait
so you are telling me that I can buy a unique emblem and do that until ancient?
are we playing the same game?
upbeat ember
yes but once u reach mythic the item is bound to not moved around
upbeat ember
when is the last time u did this?
i have not seen one instance of anyone doing this
steel smelt
well i certainly did not level my mythic jaihan demon avenger sword to max level on a level 120 demon avenger
and yea it was PBA made with ranking up stones
upbeat ember
when was this?
steel smelt
legendary potential with potent vellum soul uhm like a year or 2 ago
ended up selling it in november for like 1.5bil mesos or something
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steel smelt
i had to scissor when i sold cause i had equipped it at that point but felt my demon avenger was to weak and did't have the gear for armor to make it better
but yea i leveled it up through all my alts
it took a few weeks
upbeat ember
moving around yes, with scissors of course
we call it "cutting"
cuz once ranked up to mythic item will be untradable
u can't even put it in account storage
steel smelt
i didnt need to scissor it between characters.
upbeat ember
it is a fused item
steel smelt
this was definitely before character bound storages
cause thats a newer update for me
was not fused.
steel smelt
maybe?
upbeat ember
thats like 5 years ago so idk how it is back then
steel smelt
trying to look back at my screenshots between my friend and i
probably over 2 years ago
upbeat ember
oh yea
back to where we were
so now you either buy tradable mythic emblem (people that fuse it to mythic) or just build from scratch by buying unique emblem
cuz u building cdd alts
steel smelt
steel smelt
see i had no idea what you were talking about lol
steel smelt
lols
upbeat ember
😂
restive stag
I'm super new to this. Is there a guide to:
-What is important to buy from event shop?
-what to do to this weapon?
That's explained so a noob can explain?
Understand it*
abstract cape
Hi all, is there a quick way to level arcane symbol?
steel smelt
Uhm
Max out the bound Erel weapon Myth40 then you can try and necro/inherent it if you want to main Erel.
Event shop whatever suits you.
Doing daily arcane river quest to get arcane symbols/in event shop you can buy some arcane symbols to upgrade
that should answer both of your questions.
fossil yacht
base on what i know on crit atk, crit atk needs to have around 1100+ and crit rate % total at 180+ with all the buffs to ensure high crit rate procs in SC
upbeat ember
its for utgard use
the current m40 one
fossil yacht
my 107% crit rate first SC with utgard chaos50
upbeat ember
jaihin
steel smelt
fossil yacht
the current m40 one
use til u dont need it
steel smelt
@frank hemlock that node you suggestion made it so i could 1 shot Chaos von leon
upbeat ember
full buff?
steel smelt
no potion buff
steel smelt
attack 3 times it activate eternal light and LS4 then use sentinel rise and eternal guardian then burst
theres no difference just use that preset
upbeat ember
ohh
steel smelt
if you have the 3skills slotted then np
steel smelt
not sure I dont really care about the preset tbh
its only there if you don't 1shot a boss
lololol
honestly couldn't believe i just 1 shotted chaos von leon thats nice
upbeat ember
insane
steel smelt
uhm
ill try in a sec and ss the hp after i burst
wont pot up cause would be a waste
upbeat ember
yea
upbeat ember
hoooooooooooooly
steel smelt
turns out i can run my exp set in AR90
so painful to know that now
i took off the touch teleport skill so i dont take unwanted damage when ABing
steel smelt
i kept it with my CCRA armor
upbeat ember
someone advice me to
and i stop drinking so much hp
technically we were slowly killing ourselves every 3 seconds
😂
steel smelt
they only last for 7days
then you have to extract before last day and recreate
so you lose 30 shards
steel smelt
so realistically if you should be able to make a net profit in AR90+ every week to maintain and get others
from gold ^
that is if you make more then 30mil a week from your ABs
well i guess depends how much nodestones cost in your server
but i wouldnt recommend the recover node since it's really not that great for saving on potions
cause the upkeep cost exceeds potion costs
so close...
steel smelt
EoS best exp ingame
steel smelt
im trying to push for 210 cause of AR growths
upbeat ember
210 chu chu right?
upbeat ember
yea that true
steel smelt
it unlocks another symbol
steel smelt
yea
upbeat ember
icic
upbeat ember
no luck getting leg pot?
steel smelt
or something
upbeat ember
did u try?
steel smelt
not yet
upbeat ember
okok
steel smelt
tried x2 leg pots but both failed
even had those 1-2-5% scrolls that have a chance to drop
lols
stocking up on souls for a second set of accessories for item drop farming
😦
upbeat ember
Single cvl 0 buff
unreal osprey
Lol
steel smelt
you beat mu lung dojo?
unreal osprey
Nah top 3
steel smelt
dang
unreal osprey
I didn’t even check
No one doing it seriously I guess
Still have a bunch of event medals maybe
upbeat ember
first attempt at Chaos von?
Yes
steel smelt
nice congrats!
upbeat ember
steel smelt
😛
unreal osprey
I died at floor 38 lol
I think I made it past 40
Yea died at 41 the bunny in a tank dude
steel smelt
do you use blink or something to avoid touch damage
unreal osprey
I use the 8 sec iframe at 39, stun and destruction at 40
steel smelt
ill keep that in mind 😛
unreal osprey
Have to time blink properly too because it only works if they are moving
So when you blink they aren’t actually there anymore for you to take touch
Otherwise you die lol
unreal osprey
Oh no not the blink node
steel smelt
oh gotcha
unreal osprey
Our path
steel smelt
yea i have that touch skill off atm
trying to level first
haha
im wondering if blink node would teleport you through the boss
which i believe it would
unreal osprey
No blink teleports you to the boss
It’s like our current skill
You just get the extra option to fly
steel smelt
oh rip
fast zealot
You can double jump over the bosses in 39 and 40 to avoid the attacks
steel smelt
when i tried to double jump over i died kek
its okay another few more days wont be a problem if i get a few more boss drops
then again there really isnt much of significant gains from it for me when its like a 15% potential emblem scroll or something from tasks with my rng it would fail lol
strong rover
why fafnir hat?
genuine questions cuz im stil new but ive only seen people wear outfit and pants
steel smelt
Well, I don't have a better headpiece but (3set bonus provides 4% crit rate) and Root Abyss armor provides additional damage in root abyss and Kening Tower
steel smelt
**Erel Guide**
**Jewel Sets**
Set 1 - x5 Experience Gain (Yellow) [Edge of Space...
@lucid widget
half merlin
for Erel event weapon, after completing the missions. the next step is to refine it? are there anything else that we should be doing?
upbeat ember
for Erel event weapon, after completing the missions. the next step is to refine...
unique potential
unique flame
unreal osprey
10 necro attemp still failed
Only 10
random snow
Yea
cyan terrace
Go for necro or inherit? I feel like the chances of it being necro is way too low
cyan terrace
Or is it better to try and do necro because inherit removes all emblem etc that I have now?
random snow
Inherit . Since u won’t be able to trade it in the future
cyan terrace
Inherit . Since u won’t be able to trade it in the future
But won’t the wep be stronger being exalted and with emblem? With inherit you lose all right?
rancid granite
Nerco it’s always the best choice
proven verge
But won’t the wep be stronger being exalted and with emblem? With inherit you lo...
click on the "?" and read .
alpine beacon
Can you show me perfect node trio please
alpine beacon
Thanks sir
upbeat ember
Go for necro or inherit? I feel like the chances of it being necro is way too lo...
Necro
steel smelt
Or is it better to try and do necro because inherit removes all emblem etc that ...
Inherent mastercraft does not remove anything but you shouldnt mastercraft without refining to empress item
fossil yacht
Go for necro or inherit? I feel like the chances of it being necro is way too lo...
they let u use 5 master scroll
so why not use it
pliant fossil
they let u use 5 master scroll
ive always thought it was 2? did they changed it?
graceful stone
He probably confused it with kmsm again
upbeat ember
ive always thought it was 2? did they changed it?
the picture shows 1/5
am i trippin
i thought it was 2 max
upbeat ember
damnnnn
pallid plaza
Omg my first time got necro 🥹
Which stat should I choose?
DMG, CRIT, OR BOSS ATT?
pallid plaza
For me got 1 already happy lah
fossil yacht
went to attend a physical guild gathering event for maplem
pallid plaza
Im f2p