Kanna

[warped wolf]

Just posted Kanna’s Lv.30 V Skill Stats on my YouTube Community Post

[random garden]

Anybody listed the preset for the basic attack increased dmg. First one drains energy much faster it’s the highest dmg 2nd preset not as much energy but it’s like 20% more dps

[oblique citrus]

Wouldn’t worry about it; this won’t matter post lvl 200 with nodes cause your not lvling up tengu or the charm skill

[random garden]

Wouldn't it still add dmg regardless. It's like a one sequence skill pretty much at the same time. But im not 200 yet to test it. Only lvl 180

[oblique citrus]

No cause your losing other skill casts

which are boosted way higher with nodes

To spam these skills with 0 node slots and gonna hit 500k dmg

[stable moon]

lvling kanna is boring

just afk in sf180/194 til 200 lol

burn ab time during non-ht at lower sf

[valid owl]

Is afk lvling others not as boring?

[stable moon]

Lvling other class more fun

[valid thorn]

Do you manually level classes? Like I just put every class on AB 👀

[stable moon]

Sometimes i manual hahaja

Move around take buff spawn

[valid thorn]

Do we know Kanna's Emblem Ratio?

[warped wolf]

Kanna’s skill DMG % is low af, so more Crit would be ideal I’d say

[undone echo]

Even the V skill DMG % is insanely low

[warped wolf]

None of her skills are over 300%

[valid thorn]

I was thinking 6/2 CD/BA.

[brisk anvil]

kanna main

[valid thorn]

[torn zephyr]

All CD, BA from absolabs

Still cap at 14m or something 🤣

[oblique citrus]

Ye it’s a joke

[kind sundial]

What's the best order to Kanna hyper skills?

[tribal surge]

Hello everyone, I have a question in the case of Kana, would her main weapon have to be cd or attack against bosses?

[valid thorn]

Every jobs main weapon type is Jaihin(CD).

[burnt shore]

Is there a way to raise her mana beyond 200

[pliant bridge]

Will they be fixing Kanna?

[oblique citrus]

I sure as hell hope so

[lofty sky]

Pretty sure they will fix once burning ends :P

[zinc mason]

burning end too late already

can quit liao

[woeful siren]

just pray they give kanna the sia treatment

[warped wolf]

Nope it’s fixed at 200

[heavy marten]

What hyper skills need to take for farming?

[stable moon]

all the recommended

feels bad that my kanna died in sf147 with 45k hp sf180 gears

with 90% hp pot

-.-

[heavy marten]

Ok
Tnx

[ocean jewel]

168 might be easier tbh

[viscid token]

but exp its much less

on the other hand... sf168 exp its better than not getting exp because kanna cant survive at sf180 lol

[lament wharf]

What are Kanna's Hyper Stats recommendations?

[ocean jewel]

he was dying in 147 not 180

[stable moon]

yeah lmao

random death

not sure why too i wasnt watching

probably got ganked by many golems

[old sierra]

Bless by RNG gods

[steep bane]

Imma thinking that the video that you posted of that mega whale Kanna was abit too soon

240 to 250% dmg can be capped but that will require the player to prolly be ard 220+ to 230

Since they will unlock alot more symbols, hyper stats, boss accessories etc

It goes to show that the Devs ain't gonna release new classes that are going to be "ready to boss" state the moment you hit 200 anymore

[torn zephyr]

Bruh, their eq should make up for that 😂

[steep bane]

Not really bruh

Some whales in my guild were saying that 43K MA is too low

They aint gonna cap with that

[torn zephyr]

necro 50s with absos at 43k hitting 15m ?

[steep bane]

The same can be said for any other class

With a similar skill damage to Kanna

[torn zephyr]

which class hits 15m with those gear

[warped wolf]

Sia was capping at Lv. 200 when she was released

[steep bane]

Rarely, Kanna is in a bad spot because she doesn't have high final damage from her active skills

[warped wolf]

Can’t cap with 400%+ Crit DMG and with Lv.25 nodes?

[torn zephyr]

Do you think they would cap even if they were at 48k

if they were hitting 14m-17m lines at 43k how much MA would they need to cap 😆

[steep bane]

Prolly need 50K+++ to nearly cap 👀

[torn zephyr]

Nope, you can play with the damage calculator 🤣

you need a currently unattainable amount

Or maybe some whale has managed to break it with flames to BA mythics and lvl 60 absos with BA option.

[woeful siren]

lmao imagine thinking Kanna needs some symbols to cap while having absolab and necro 50

the class needs to be buffed/fixed

[warped wolf]

Will do testings again when he’s at a higher lvl to see if it gets better

[valid owl]

Wonder how many % of player has 50k now

[coral tree]

will they be buffing kanna soon? :/

and can anyone show their presets :< im new

[valid thorn]

Check out MoonBean video on YT, they go over AB and Bossing wheel.

[thorny estuary]

What hyper passive should i up?

[split carbon]

what are kanna perfect trio boost nodes recommendations?

[warped wolf]

Pasting the link here: https://youtu.be/49FHnTRbU3E

Also has Hyper Passive & Perfect Trio recommendations:

[stable moon]

Vip service

[valid thorn]

Is it a damage loss to keep using Ghost Boss on cooldown? Cause he does damage every time you summon a new one.

[brisk anvil]

no idts, cuz there's a delay before he combo atks again

[wet tide]

What’s the Hyper order for Kanna?

[wet tide]

Anyone?

Hyper stats and Hyper skills

[mystic scaffold]

@jovial bluff

[jovial bluff]

the pinned video has recommended hyper passive skills

as for hyper stat, usually recommended to have 1 point in additional dmg then final dmg, magic dmg/max damage/boss atk (order depends on what you need) for offensive
if for training, exp and pexp (and buff item duration)

[viscid token]

I just reached lvl 200.. this are my first 15 nodes.. Iknow the perfect trios from Moon's video but ..
what about the skills? which one should I use? I dont know if the blue circle its good or not..

[wet tide]

Is there a preference for EXP vs PEXP?

[viscid token]

I think PEXP its more useful as it will increase exp gained for all.

[valid thorn]

If your flames scale with exp then get more exp. Pexp does not boost flame's scaling.

[wet tide]

Does PEXP boost my own?

Also what is flames?

[valid thorn]

PExp boosts what exp you get from your party killing stuff.

Flames are basically another form of adding something similar to potential to gear. You can get flame items from doing expeditions and from events. Tons of ways to get them. But it's rng what results you get from flames so you keep rolling until you get the one you want. So basically since we're in Kanna chat, you'd roll for MAtt and you want it to scale off exp since you're stacking a ton of exp stuff like necklace, rings, titles, jewels, etc.

If you go to the #bot-commands you can see what scaling each stat has for flames to determine if you want to keep rolling or keep it.

[wet tide]

Thanks!!

[dense stag]

With the changes to the class are moonbeans guides still accurate? Seems like there may be a more optimal path now, and needs an update.

[unkempt linden]

On paper the defensive changes looks very good for kana

[viscid token]

since barries effects does now apply even if you are outside skill wheel I think will change as well

[unkempt linden]

With addition of the other defensive buffs.. should have no problem surviving

Would be good if that was applied to the party as well

[viscid token]

effects to the party remains but if they stay inside of the barrier, right?

[unkempt linden]

Right

[viscid token]

but for kanna it does not matter if its in or outside

I think thats good enough

[unkempt linden]

A stationary barrier is not good for higher content where players will be moving a lot

[viscid token]

agree, but I think makes interesting the strategic dynamics

otherwise it would be just casting buffs

[unkempt linden]

Yeah let's see. I believe this should put kana in a very good position

[viscid token]

hopefully 🤞

[warped wolf]

A potential AB Wheel change I see, is adding Blossom Barrier and maybe adding Mana Balance (But I feel like the 20% HP reduction might lower survivability) need to test it out after update

Nodes should remain the same

[cyan hound]

It’s funny how the main attacking skill didn’t get a buff

[indigo kelp]

Mana balance aint work on ab i think its written up

[indigo kelp]

Oh after the balance my bad then

Apolgize xD

My kanna level 201 feels paper hipefully balance will be fine

Blossom shall help on that

[viscid token]

also teleport was not adjusted... 1s delay seems waay to much.. compated to other magicians teleport.

but its not critical I think

[warped wolf]

Teleport cd will be 0.5 secs

[viscid token]

wait a sec it got improved

just read it again lol

[warped wolf]

Which is great since JMSM didn’t even get this improvement

[viscid token]

O:

[viscid token]

@warped wolf what about hyper passives, now that barries efects will persist... how about swapping vanquiser extra strike for blossome barrier CoolDown?
that way both barries will be cast every 20secs (just 5 secs without effects on us)

[warped wolf]

Yeah this seems good

[subtle bone]

Hello everyone! I'm super excited about these changes some of them are totally massive! I'm also quite proud because I'm pretty sure some of the changes came directly from the game feedback post I made!

This is so awesome because it shows us that Nexon actually looks at, and takes our feedback into consideration, and might even implement them!

Happy Mapleing and KANNA GANG!
-SSSTatsumaki (rank 5 kanna Scarnia NA)

[warped wolf]

Thank you for your contribution

[viscid token]

almost time to test out the improvments ! 👏 unless Nexon doesn't finish on time lol

[warped wolf]

Revised Hyper Skill Passives Ver.1 , what do you guys think

[sullen moth]

How is Kanna post patch?

[viscid token]

I used to had it like you are suggestin now for AB only.. I saw no changes at all.. so I went ahead and did a mix.. since I want to do bossing as well...
Im using 36789,
as I mentioned I just swapped Vanquisher extra strike which is just 1 extra strike.. for Blossom CoolDown so both barries will be cast every 20s

will test it out and update

[warped wolf]

Yeah depends if you want the extra hit of Vanquisher, with it it’s 61x12=732 lines per 45 secs, without it is 60x12=720 lines per 45 secs

[cyan spire]

The Orochi still 5 times repeat, not 10 times like in the patch said lol

[warped wolf]

Just tested in battle analysis, it’s 50 hits like the patch said

[valid owl]

How’s the line improvements on battle analysis

[wet tide]

So is Kanna now a legit class?

And do we expect more buffs in future or this is it?

[mystic scaffold]

I think it’s super op

[brisk anvil]

future buffs on kanna may depend on the new kanna

[warped wolf]

Buffs and nerfs happen periodically for all classes, nothing is set and stone forever tbh

[brisk anvil]

but there's nexon's favs and non favs lol

[wet tide]

What’s the new kanna?

[brisk anvil]

patch notes

skill adjustments

[brisk anvil]

#game-news message

[wet tide]

@brisk anvil No I meant, why does future buffs depend on "new kanna"?

[brisk anvil]

cuz if new kanna bad need buff, if new kanna good no need buff no need nerf

[viscid token]

What about a good new skill wheel post 200?

I’m using this but I think it’s no close to be optimal. I have a lot of skills in there

@warped wolf any new ideas? On your video you suggest one wheel but while shoe casting it you are using a different one. 🤔

[warped wolf]

The guy who helped me film the showcase part basically just put the skills all together with no order, it’s just showcasing what the skills look like.

The AB wheel suggestion part is more accurate

And I don’t think Mana Balance is needed on the AB wheel, Mana doesn’t really run out after this patch, but put it on if it’s working for you~

[unkempt linden]

My mana still runs out so I have it on the skill wheel

[finite gyro]

What ab wheel should i use pre 200?

[viscid token]

check pinned message @finite gyro

[woeful siren]

im shocked my kanna is living in sf 144 with full uniques minus weapon.

[valid thorn]

Are you using the barriers?

[woeful siren]

yeah

I still die but no where near as often as I was before

I might upgrade a couple of the pieces to legendary and I should be able to survive completely .

[warped wolf]

Barriers OP now

[neon zephyr]

I’m sad. Few days ago I didn’t know they gonna buff her so I upgrade all her gear and transfer

[valid thorn]

I doubled down and kept getting emblem gear for her. Glad I kept going!

[neon zephyr]

Haha I wasn’t crazy about her anyway. Just wanna take advantage of an easy char to lv175 during event

Would have been fun to keep the gear and see how she does

[valid thorn]

I'm aiming for that lv200. I think I'll barely make it with the burning event.

[viscid token]

im using this wheel and seems to be good, im surviving at AF90 no issue.
Hyper passives Im using 36789,

current equipment.

Hyper stats;

• 10 points at FD
• 10 points at PEXP

[wet tide]

1. Why do you have multiple presets with the basic attacks?

2. How do you equip a 2nd weapon with kanna

[valid thorn]

Like the spear next to the fan?

[wet tide]

Yes

[valid thorn]

You equip it like any other gear.

Now if you want to get a secondary weapon you can get cheap epic one from meso treasure chest. 500k meso per pull.

People tend to sell legendary rarity on the TS. You can buy any you want and then it into a spear so any character can use it.

[wet tide]

Wait but mine doesn’t let me

Does it have to be a spear?

Can I equip a 2nd fan?

[valid thorn]

No

Spear is universal for all characters and the upgrade you will turn yours into.

Every class has their own special secondary weapon.

This is Kannas legendary secondary weapon. Later it will be turned into spear

[indigo kelp]

I survive 194sf with half of power xD

[brisk anvil]

eh u havent fix it?

[valid thorn]

Oh I did. I just didn't wanna bother taking another SS when I had this beauty saved.

[brisk anvil]

[wet tide]

How do I get a spear? I bought a spear from the TS but it says its only for Dark Knights

[woeful siren]

its called secondary weapon. you can filter it as well to only show equips for kanna.

[wet tide]

Right but on the TS I only see the "Yellow Magatama" which I already have. The Spears listed there a DK only?

[woeful siren]

if you are looking up secondary it will show you

[viscid token]

what do you have?

[viscid token]

@warped wolf now that some skills were improved... do you think trios could change?

[warped wolf]

The conclusion I got with other Kanna players is there’s no need to change, what skills do you think needs to be changed?

[viscid token]

I was thinking if Orochi maybe was worth including.. instead of exorcism... but now sure about it.

[wet tide]

I can’t find any spears on TS 😦

Any other way to get (f2p)

[warped wolf]

Exorcism was never part of Global’s recommendation

Maybe switch out Lv150 Hyper for Orochi, Lv150 is quite useless

[woeful siren]

why do you want one so badly? there is no rush for that item.

[wet tide]

I’m not sure I thought that’s how I can increase my damage by a lot

[woeful siren]

If you already have a unique secondary then thats fine for now. If you need help increasing dmg then you would need to screen shot your current gear. Otherwise we have no clue what to recommend.

[wet tide]

Appreciate the help

[woeful siren]

of course, np 🙂 Okay so you appear to be very new. Check out this link. Its a long read but has solid info on who you should be progressing. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/comments/paviof/maplestory_m_the_guide_for_new_players_early_to/

also FYI:
Blue border = rare
Purple border = epic
Orange/Yellow border = Unique
Green border = Legendary ( lmao I completely forgot this one)
Red border = Mythic
Blue ombre border = Ancient
Purple ombre border = Chaos

[brisk anvil]

ancient and chaos sw when 👀

[lofty sky]

Lol you skipped the green border for legendary. Btw A Mentor, your question does not belong in the Kanna thread. You are currently using a rare secondary weapon. You cannot rank it up. Epic secondary can be pulled from treasure box for 500k each pull (up to rng). Epic Longinus Spear from Sharenian Culverts (Guild) (but don’t bother, it is useless without the SF so extract). Unique secondary weapon from those 20m treasure box. Legendary and Mythic from treasure boxes that cost crystals. I wouldn’t recommend you in going anything beyond epic at this point. Focus on your other gear.

[lofty sky]

Fyi you can only change a secondary weapon to that Longinus Spear from Unique onwards. Don’t bother about it just yet.

[wet tide]

Thanks

If I understood correctly, I need to make Lv 20 uniques and sell them in the trade station? Should I also SF them and view their potential?

Which class items are the best to sell for quick sales

[lofty sky]

Ask in MSM game help

[wet tide]

Sorry @lofty sky , that was a followup to my conversation with @woeful siren around how to play my Kanna

[lofty sky]

Oh ok

[brisk anvil]

👀

[wet tide]

@woeful siren

[valid thorn]

Do expeditions everyday twice to get better chance at boss set. Those accessories will boost your damage by a lot.

Invest in a jaihin weapon and bloody gloves to get more crit damage to also increase damage. You could also just get current gear to unique SF18 and live in SF144 map to farm for mesos until you can buy a jaihin emblem weapon.

[wet tide]

Which is the bloody glove? I thought elligos gauntles was BIS

[brisk anvil]

no bloody gloves

[wet tide]

Is Bloody one of the standard ones?

[brisk anvil]

wdym standard

[valid thorn]

Bloody is the generic term for it, I'm sure it has other names i think. But its the ONLY gloves that offer CD.

[wet tide]

Do you mean this one (right side), it has CD?

[brisk anvil]

yes eligos

[valid thorn]

Don't invest too much into it since the goal is to get emblem version of it. But having it now will for sure increase your damage.

[viscid token]

I noticed that barriers effect now stays permanent even if the barrier is no casted again.. meaning you just need to cast it once and the effect will remain for us.
could this mean that theres no need to have the hyper passive for cooldown / Persist anymore? as there is not rush into casting it again and to have it active as long as posible.. I mean party might not get the effect tho... but we could be using hyper passives, 13547
cc: @warped wolf , Thoughts? am I missing something? 😅

[warped wolf]

Hmm my Bellflower barrier doesn’t stay forever, only Blossom does

[viscid token]

interesting! , cuz I removed both from my wheel and they stayed

ive been in AB for some time now, no need to cast again

currently im using hyper passives. 36789

as you see in the SS , I dont even have the option to remove them from the skills.. they just stay there

[warped wolf]

I feel like it’s a bug

[viscid token]

lucky me?, or visual bug maybe?

[warped wolf]

Might get fixed since it’s not in the skill description, and if they last forever, it wouldn’t make sense to have cooldown & duration hyper skill options for them

So I wouldn’t bet changing hyper passive due to this

[viscid token]

kk

lets see if they somehow announce a fix or not

ty for your input

[wet tide]

Does AB cast buffs even if they are not on wheel? Eg barriers

[valid thorn]

Barriers aren't under the buff tab so they will not be auto casted by pets.

No buffs can be auto casted during AB anyways. SO if you want barriers to be used, gotta have it on the wheel.

[brisk anvil]

u can read the skill description if it says u cant cast during ab or not, but u still can cast if u equip those on pets

[viscid token]

I used another Kanna yup, barriers does not stay.. maybe I was bugged yesterday.

havent try on my main Kanna yet tho..

[wet tide]

Hey fellow Kannas, any idea if getting the Fafnir Ancient is worth it, and trying to put emblems on it with scrolls instead of going for CD Fan?

[viscid token]

I think it will depend on how far you want to with Kanna, for me I just want an alt to nodefarm.. so I will not be even exalting.. but if you want to main her, maybe it will worth getting a jahin to exlt and maybe go Ancient/Necro

lvl 40 TPBA jahin vs lvl 30 Faf

[valid thorn]

Theres also the factor of RNG emblem, gonna cost a pretty penny if you don't get the right emblem to swap. SF is going to be a pain as well since you'll need a SF scroll for Fafnir. Jaihin could just SF to 18 like normal so you save money on that.

[wet tide]

@viscid token What is TPBA?

[wet tide]

Aah I see, I thought I could just SF regularly

[viscid token]

PBA stands for perfect base attack, all weapons have a base attack and you can have it from -10% up to +10%

weapons with a +10% are PBA

TPBA if im not mistaken is a normal PBA with was ranked up all the way up. since not all weapons will get a perfect PBA from the inno scroll.

[wet tide]

Aah, I did not know that. After fusing is that also random?

[valid thorn]

You COULD, but you're gonna be really sad if it breaks and you'll have to get another one.

[viscid token]

if you fuse the new weapon att will be random (from -10% up to +10% ), if you rank up the pba will upgarde

[brisk anvil]

tpba is higher than pba by a lil bit

[wet tide]

In general, as a F2P player, I guess I should be happy with simply being able to get an embled Jaihin and not worry about TPBA or PBA

[brisk anvil]

tpba not important in current meta

pba can be scrolled later on

emblem is life

[balmy atlas]

Hi all, is Kanna worth to continue to play?

[oblique citrus]

She's cool and she got amazing animations skills but Im my opinion i wont main thet class now, i think she needs more work on her dmg, ther is much more stronger and balanced class out their
But if u love it and found her a fun for u the why not

[valid thorn]

Yeah they improved her AB, but bossing could still use some work.

[burnt scarab]

Any skill wheel recommendation?

I keep dying even with Max leg wep and max unique armor at sf120

I even has yellow s grade gem

And auto buff pet too

Health pot set 90%

[valid thorn]

Do you insta die or after an hour or so?

If you're getting one shotted then no AB wheel will save you. Upgrade your armor more. If not then you can slot in the defensive barrier that reduces 15% of damage into your wheel. You no longer need to be in the bubble to get the defensive effect.

[burnt scarab]

I use the barrier

What skill you use for ab?

I only use orochi and the shikigami attack skill

Do you use other skill?

[valid thorn]

Take off Orochi and Nine Tails if you can't kill them fast enough. You're just aggroing the whole map. Orochi goes past your screen

I'm using this. You might not have enough damage to kill them fast enough before the mobs gang up on you.

[burnt scarab]

OK ty

[grand falcon]

Just fused this unique BA emblem jaihin fan. Can I benchmark the price to a CD emblem jaihin or is CD emblem more favorable?

[mystic scaffold]

Like 1b more

[wet tide]

Congrats! How many attempts did it take?

[grand falcon]

BA worth 1b more than CD emblem jaihin?

Possibly less than 20 epic fuses. I’m f2p so I don’t fuse that much. Lack the mesos to level and fuse. Most of the mesos farmed is used to SF.

[mystic scaffold]

Probably

[valid thorn]

At the current pricing CD is worth more then it's BA.

[fossil tartan]

Anyone tested the minimum eq needed to farm at sf144

[fossil tartan]

That’s really lucky !

[valid thorn]

Before the quick patch on her I was using Mythic Outfit/Weapon and Legendary everything else.

[fossil tartan]

ahh doesn’t seem like a level180 kanna Can survive with just uniques everything and legend eq then

[valid thorn]

Mythic weapon at least I think is like the standard, leggy on HP gear is needed, everything else can probably stay unique.

[brisk anvil]

what?

u trolling or smth

[mystic scaffold]

No troll, cd op

[brisk anvil]

u said BA worth 1b more than CD

[grand falcon]

From Moonbean’s video, for hyper stats, what is “Additional DMG & MAG DMG”? Which stat is that referring to?

[vast sigil]

Hyper Stats are not in the Skill menu
Menu > Hyper (looks like a fist)

• MAG DMG Increase %
• Deals additiona Skill DMG upon attacking

[grand falcon]

Yes Hyper Stats are not in the Skills menu. This is just a screen capture of Moonbean's video where he only added captions about Hyper Stats. But I can't find the "Additional DMG & MAG DMG" as suggested. Does that mean it is 2 stats? MAG DMG Increase % and Additional Skill DMG?

Additional DMG could possibly translate to Crit DMG too that is why it is confusing me on which Hyper Stat to up.

[vast sigil]

yes, i listed them as bullet points for you

[grand falcon]

Thanks, that clarifies my doubts. Would you rate MAG DMG Increase % over additional skill DMG?

[woeful siren]

yeah I would upgrade mag dmg before ADI

[vast sigil]

Idk what exactly @warped wolf recommended in the video but the general idea for most is 1 point in ADI, then maxing out MAG DMG, then going back to ADI and maxing that out

And maxing out MDC in between as needed to increase your cap

[warped wolf]

Yea Those are 2 separate options, I grouped them together since people have different preferences on their order

[grand falcon]

[wet tide]

Hey folks I got my Kanna to lvl 177 and bought my first 1B mesos. However, I was told Kanna isn't good late game, so I'm looking for help/suggestions on what to do

I enjoy the class but I dont want to find out later it was a bad investment

And none of the class stats / dps charts shows kanna

[valid thorn]

If you're worry about bad investments then play top tier classes. New classes don't have data yet because people are still figuring them out and Nexon drops patches to try to balance them.

Before she had her patch update on skills she was a little below average iirc.

Now, not sure since I haven't found any info on Kanna whales doing new tests.

I'd imagine they'd probably do another patch for her to buff more stuff for bossing.

[wet tide]

What are the TT classes youd suggest?

[valid thorn]

Really depends on what you're trying to do. Iirc Bishop is still amazing as support, duel blades been high up in DPS for the longest, demon slayer is also pretty popular.

Every game you're gonna have top tier classes and average or below ones. I personally recommend playing w/e you enjoy and pray Nexon buffs them.

Kinda the only reason I'm sticking to Kanna. She has good mobility, cool skills animations, and i enjoy player her over my DB since DB feels very bland to me.

Not being the best class won't stop you from clearing content, but it's just harder to reach to that point is all imo . Like I got Kanna to lv200, but I still can't survive AF30. I might be able to if I'm full mythic, but I'll find out when I get there.

[wet tide]

That's true

I enjoy Kanna as well even though its a new class

I dont like that in boss fights im basically useless except every 45 seconds

the auto-attack is slow and weak

[valid thorn]

Yeah...I thought for sure they'd buff that, but they buffed Kanna AoEs instead. Nexon will probably buff her again though just cause how weak she feels in bossing.

[wet tide]

@valid thorn Do you know how often Nexon buffs -- is it like a month out, two months out, or more?

[valid thorn]

Sadly I don't. I honestly wasn't even expecting them to buff her so soon.

[wet tide]

Shows how bad they found out she is 😢

I'm Lv 177 and with SF 152 still have only 350K total damage

It feels really low compared to some other people showing their damage at much lower level and SF

[valid thorn]

350k damage or CP?

Are you using jaihin weapon, bloody gloves, and muspel/zakum helm?

If you're still in full uniques then yeah you'll deal less damage and have survival issues.

[wet tide]

Well, 350K CP I guess (Whatever it shows in the stats screen?)

I have full unique max level with SF18 and weapon + muspell helmet is Legend

What should I do, increase to Legend will help?

[valid thorn]

Yeah. Your goal early start should be trying to survive in Sf144 so you can start farming meso by ABing. Then when you get enough meso you can get yourself a CD/BA Jaihin Emblemed Fan and slowly replace your legendary non-emblem gear with emblemed ones.

Idk if you ever gotten Boss Accessories yet, but keep going to every expedition you can to maximize drop chances. They offer a lot of damage + health which is very beneficial for you early.

[wet tide]

Yes I have a 6 set boss accessory (can have 7 but using Exp pendant). I am also trying to upgrade them if I find same / similar ones

Right now I'm doing SF147 as you suggested since my character is able to survive it

[valid thorn]

👌

Do you have yellow jewel set? The 100 knock back is kinda what you need for Sf144.

Ideally you'd want 144 > 147

[wet tide]

No I don't, I have all red right now

And some yellow EXP

Can I buy yellow Jewels except for the Thursday loot?

[valid thorn]

Uhh to my knowledge it's just random jewel color in box and the daily ones.

Does full red give you knock back?

Yellows gives this. Honestly not sure what other jewels give since I've only used yellow.

[wet tide]

Full red doesn't give KB

Its just MATK

[spark crag]

Hyper passive order? I have 4 points

[burnt scarab]

How many legend armor should I have to survive 144

Right now I barely survive 147

[valid thorn]

For SF144 it more of getting full set of yellow jewels going. KNock Back Res +100 does wonders when all the mobs knock back.

Can't kill them if you're constantly getting interrupted. I did mythic outfit and leggy helm, gloves and shoes for the HP and I survived, but that was before they did a buff for her.

[brisk anvil]

think mythic outfit for kanna is needed and get as many boss set accessories as possible

[burnt scarab]

Already s set for gem

Might probably get fuse the outfit

[valid thorn]

Honestly I'd probably fuse everything except helm/glove. Those 2 pieces gives a lot of damage so I like to keep them as long as possible until I can find their emblemed version. Everything else fuse since theres no need for BiS damage as clean uniques.

I needed around 2M CP to survive SF144 and kill everything in 1 hit without party buffs. Anything lower you're just kinda hoping your AB Party Members will provide buffs for you which is kinda why you barely survive 147.

[wet tide]

Guys should I get my Jaihin fan from Legend to Mythic? No emblem

I don’t have emblem items and don’t think I will anytime soon either but I’m currently maxed out on just making all my armor legends

[valid thorn]

If you have trouble with killing stuff in SF144 then yes, if not no since it's a waste of meso and rank up stones you could be using for long term weapon.

Iirc it's like 80M to rank up from legendary to mythic.

[wet tide]

Well didn’t you say above that Kanna NEEDS Mythic ?

[valid thorn]

Every class needs mythic.

The first mythic weapon is usually fused so it doesn't really matter what it is cause you're using it for damage in SF144 until you can afford Jaihin emblemed.

So once again, if you have no issue with killing stuff then leave it as legendary, if you do and rather rank up over fusing then do it. Legendary Rank Up stones are time consuming to get.

[wet tide]

I can kill but it takes maybe 4-5 hits to kill them

I have a Max Level Legend "Utgard (E) Fan", should I fuse that into my Jaihin weapon? Unfortunately it may not stay as Jaihin anymore but at least it will be Mythic

[brisk anvil]

u wanna buy an emblemed or emblem the un emblemed

[wet tide]

@brisk anvil How do I put an emblem on it? Is there a guide for it

[brisk anvil]

slap a scroll on a non emblem

[wet tide]

How/where do I get them? And if I get the wrong emblem can I change it?

[brisk anvil]

both events

or money

[wet tide]

Money like mesos?

[brisk anvil]

no

$

[lofty sky]

Slapping an emblem scroll is normally not recommended (but at least do it on a tpba fan, maybe legendary ranking). Emblem scrolls can be bought in the TS, with crystals on the package shop (wait for good deals). Occasionally you’ll get them from event shops. You’ll also get one this Thursday if you can level Cadena to 160 (growth event).

Emblem change scrolls are even more rare and expensive. You might get one from an event once a year tops. Either from package or TS.

[valid thorn]

@warped wolf I'm looking at the V Matrix setup you have in the vid and notice you use Mana Overload, but you don't use it in the bossing portion of the vid. Do you think it's worth using?

[acoustic garden]

What are the chances kanna receives another buff?

[lofty sky]

Low

But I hope I’m wrong

[valid thorn]

I don't think she'll get another one soon. The quick fix they did on her improved her damage by a lot though idk how much that is compared to other classes.

[warped wolf]

Which bossing portion were you referring to?

[valid thorn]

Oh it must've been hidden cause I didn't see it on the skill bar and the buffs was hidden. Is Liberated Spirit Circle not used? I saw the new Kanna damage test and they used it, but you don't have it on your V Skill.

[warped wolf]

Are you talking about this?

Which video are you referring to?

[valid thorn]

Yes, I saw that it was using the skill but it wasn't on the bossing wheel.

[warped wolf]

It’s cuz this skill can’t be equipped on the wheel, it can only be automatically activated by Shikigami Haunting & Vanquisher’s Charm

[valid thorn]

Ah I see, ty for clearing it up! Do you recommend the same bossing wheel or change it up? I'm just comparing it to the other vid where they had a different wheel.

[warped wolf]

No problem! The wheels I recommend in my videos are just for reference, you can change it up based on your preferences and needs~

[crude lotus]

Could someone post kanna skill wheel ( auto battle ) pre lvl 200 with preset please

[acoustic garden]

Hello. Sorry for asking because im sure this has been answered many times, but is there a comprehensive guide to kanna vmatrix?

[valid thorn]

Is that what you're looking for？

[grand falcon]

Any tips for clearing Mulung stage 34 ninja lord? I keep getting ohko by his ninja stars

[lofty sky]

You meant floor 35 right? Usually my method is to either (1) kite and keep gliding away, or (2) use immunity buffs… but for Kanna, I suppose I would stun and hopefully dps it down during the timeframe. Great thing about Kanna is it got two stuns (though they only work on the same mob once).

[brisk anvil]

yep needa dps down before it hits u

stun gets 10 sec free time

other iframs too

if u wanna progress further, suggest u keep any many stuns/iframes as possible for later

[brisk anvil]

if it has a long CD that is

[acoustic garden]

Thank you. If i jus hit lvl 200, are there specific ones i should be aiming for? Or do i jus immediately use any of those that i get? This is the first time i hit 200 and im a bit confused

[valid thorn]

I hit 200 for the first time recently as well. You get a node after you go the quest line. Idk if you're garenteed V1 skill, but I got Yukionna.

Honestly after chilling in AF maps, I think having all the skill nodes first would be the best over boost nodes. So much extra damage.

What mine currently looks like.

Getting perfect trio nodes is going to take awhile since it's all RNG. Rather have skills I can use over boost nodes ATM.

[acoustic garden]

Thanks for the advice. Sadly, im not even close to being able to survive AF maps right now 😭. Sometimes i die in sf 158

[acoustic garden]

Do u think my priority should be turning all of my legendary equips into mythic right now? Also debating if i should switch to RA top and bot

[valid thorn]

Use RA Top/Bot until you have SF30 Necro Outfit.

Also yeah if you can't survive AF30 then you won't survive Sf158. I had the same issue. Yeah you'd also want to get more mythic pieces since they provide extra HP too. Well the gloves do at least,

If you're full mythic you should survive AF30.

[valid thorn]

Oh don't drop below SF160 or else you won't be able to get into CDD.

[brisk anvil]

just make another preset for that and make the farming preset so that u can survive and clear mobs easily

[viscid token]

need some extra tips... I still die on SF194 and AF90.. what should I improve? ..open to all suggestions.

[brisk anvil]

simple ones are boss accessories, cpb belt

[viscid token]

yeah, working on that... I have super bad luck on boss drops

[tranquil summit]

Fun game!

[valid thorn]

Hmm I'd try to get V3 skill. It comes in handy since it's a huge AoE.

Kinda jelly that you got a perfect trio. Can't land one yet.

[valid thorn]

@warped wolf Hello, just watched your new vid on Kanna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRUraSQjOn4&ab_channel=月豆MoonBean Just wanted to ask some questions again.
Do you know their emblem ratios?
Since they reached MDC, should we still go to Additional Skill Dmg or go to MDC in Hyper Stats?

[brisk anvil]

woah u capping dmg alr?

[valid thorn]

Mainly trying to set up the foundation to reach that goal. I am missing a few emblem slots and been thinking about ratios for a long time.

[acoustic garden]

What is a perfect trio? Sorry i just hit 200 for the first time and im clueless

I have a bunch of trio ones, but they all seem pretty useless

[valid thorn]

Today is a good day.

[balmy atlas]

What is the seqence to add for hyper stats for kanna?

[acoustic garden]

How many tries did it take?

[valid thorn]

1

I also did 1 attempt and passed on helm.

Same day.

[acoustic garden]

😮

[viscid token]

you nexoned nexon

[brisk anvil]

2 necro

fml

[eternal osprey]

Is Orochi good for AB? It seems to lock me down while it's going, so I'm wondering if it's better than moving around and attacking. I assume it would be due to Kanna's lower mobility (no dash, I think)

[viscid token]

now its kind of good, since it gives invincibility. I used it a lot at sf180/184 because it hit multiple platforms

[viscid token]

Kanna rebalance!

Dmg increases but is it enough?

[brisk anvil]

300% is not bad tho

almost 100% inc

huge buff 4 sure

[valid thorn]

These are amazing!

[eternal osprey]

🙌

We love to see it

😤 😤 😤

[viscid token]

what vmatrix are you guys using?

[compact narwhal]

someone think the ABwheel will change after these buffs kanan get?

[valid thorn]

Im just using all the V skills. Perfect trio is a myth to me at this point since I still haven't gotten one.

Night ghost might be worth using as perfect trio again.

[eternal osprey]

idk, how do people figure out the AB wheel, anyways? I wasthinking just AB for X minuntes alone in a good SF/AF and see which gives best exp, but if there's a better way, I'd like to know

[lofty sky]

I’ve a question for you pros out there. I know MoonBean recommends 1,3,7,8,9 for hyper skills (bossing). Do you guys think switching out 7 or 9 for 6 probable?

[valid thorn]

Nope. The last 3 skills basically let's you have the bubble up forever + extra BA. More the bubble stays, the more damage you and your team does to the boss. Personally I don't touch the damage miti bubble since a lot of time I just teleport away to avoid dmg taken.

7 should be much better now since they made geomancy appear under you if you don't have one near you already so you should get enhanced bubble.

[lofty sky]

Awesome, thanks for the detailed explanation.

[eternal osprey]

Wait, for the Kanna who summons the bubble, you don't need to be in it to receieve the benefits (for both the offense and defense bubble). Or am I crazy?

It says it in the description

Is it a problem of finding a good time to get it up vs. the ease of teleporting away?

[acoustic garden]

Kanna doesnt need to be in it, but i think your party needs to be in it

[valid thorn]

Yeah the Kanna that uses it doesn't need to be in the bubble once it is down, but your team does to receive benefits. You just put it into a preset so when you're spamming S. Haunting you auto use it when it's up again.

[eternal osprey]

Ahh, thanks for the explanations! @valid thorn @acoustic garden

[acoustic garden]

Why does the perfect trio include nine tailed fury instead of orochi? Orochi seems to be much better when farming SF/AF

[valid thorn]

Instant cast vs standing there channeling

[crude lotus]

Any carry for norm CRA ( scania NA ) ? Please

[eternal osprey]

So is it me or do unfunded/new player Kanna mains die ezpz in SF144?

[tranquil summit]

Yes

[valid thorn]

To survive in 144 you need full set of yellow jewels for the 100 KB resist as well as at least legendary gear on the HP items.

Idk if buff pets are included in the unfunded player, but having Haku buff you is huge in survivability.

[eternal osprey]

I think so? I believe unfunded is no mesos to start, and I think they character starts with the growth pets. Now after the expire, I pray fellow nerds saved up enough to grab cheap from TS or wherever

@tranquil summit thanks for validating

@valid thorn this is helpful too, thank you!

[valid thorn]

As a Kanna main I still haven't used up all the free pets they gave me. I just used another set of armadillos and I have another still haven't used and the free puppy/cat ones they gave in event.

Like it's another 3 months until I need to worry about pets.

[lofty sky]

What is the bare minimum for a Kanna to survive AF30? 1 level to go before it reaches 200.

[valid thorn]

Full mythics

I was missing shoulders, cape, and belt, and I needed a bishop on my team to survive.

For the most part it won't even be that you don't have damage, it's more of bad ab pathing that will just put you in the middle of mobs.

[lofty sky]

Ok tyvm. So, if it’s not about damage, then I don’t need to exalt my weapon?

[tranquil summit]

More damage has never hurt anyone

[valid thorn]

Only exalt your emblem weapon. No point in exalting a clean fan that you'll replace with emblem later down the line.

[lofty sky]

Yeah, it is emblem. I just don’t have the funds to exalt it yet, that’s why I wanted to at least get the bare minimum first.

[valid thorn]

Ah, yeah just try to survive in AF30 first then worry about funds to exalt. Cause you can still sell nodes for like 25M ea atm which is kinda low but still its 25M. I had all my other characters run Elite Dungeons everyday so I had powders to make my exalt fodders via fusing. Fuse if you get luck you get your correct fodder, unluck then sell on TS then buy your fodder.

[brisk anvil]

nodes at 25m is so high rn, my server a2z selling for 17.6m avg and a1 going for 15.5m based on my fren

[valid thorn]

25m in low on NA Scan. They usually cost around 30+.

[viscid token]

Kanna is sooo death right?
I just couldnt make it to survive properly

[valid thorn]

Whats your gear looking like and what SF/AF map?

[glad frigate]

Guys, I noticed Kanna's attack skill can't be casted while Teleport skill is on CD.

Is that intended?

[valid thorn]

Whut?

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm assuming you're probably low on mana and can't use the skill.

[glad frigate]

Like I can't use any skill immediately after teleport

[valid thorn]

Can you use Shikigami Haunting after Mana Warping?

Can you send pic of your skills?

[glad frigate]

Tried pressing but it just doesn't do anything

Let me record video

Hold on

[valid thorn]

Ah that's what you mean.

[glad frigate]

Haha maybe I misintepret 😂

[valid thorn]

Thought you meant more of like no skills worked at all.

[glad frigate]

I mean only when Mana Warping CD ends then only we can use our attacks

Which I think is very weird

[valid thorn]

So Mana Warp cancels any current skill you're casting when you use it(Orochi/vanquisher/etc) so you can warp somewhere. What you're experiencing is normal. It's probably coded that way because a lot of Kannas skills are kind of like channeling.

When you get to SF144 you'll notice you can't survive without the complete set of yellow jewels giving you Knock Back Resist 100 cause you can't really use much of your AB skills due to being constantly knocked back.

[dusky flint]

Hello??? Have anyone hear???

I really need trio node for Kanna, can help me pls🙈

[glad frigate]

Literally scroll up for few sec and you can find it already tho..

[glad frigate]

This

[quartz root]

Is Kanna still really bad? I haven’t played her since she came out and I couldn’t survive 144.

[dusky flint]

She not weak but she really hard to survive in starforce

[stable fossil]

@warped wolf can I ask you for help on the AB skill wheel for kanna that's maximize survivability?

[viscid token]

avoid the skills that attacks the entire map. if you don't gather all monsters towards you, might survive longer

[stable fossil]

I really think that kanna is a hero created by Nexon to waste players mesos

[viscid token]

that was for me

[valid thorn]

Iirc she's very strong in JMSM, but I guess they aren't sure how to balance her here so they nerfed her to the ground then gave her some buffs to help her not die as much.

[unkempt linden]

People are still playing kana. I expected it to be dead class.

That hold down attack skill that goes on cooldown is pretty strong though

[valid thorn]

It's basically a dead class. The hype died out so the only Kanna players you'll see now are usually the SF144 ones.

[stable fossil]

True story.. now with burning.. I think it's time for me to give up on this hero too..

[compact narwhal]

the pinend video doesn't talk about kanna v3 (guess they don't have that). I don't have it yet but was wondering if it's useful for AB

[valid thorn]

Yeah, it's great. It's a passive that just randomly happens and it's huge AoE.

[compact narwhal]

oh, nice, thx for the info

[raw ridge]

anyone training at sf180 or above?

could you share your gear if so?

[valid thorn]

I'm training in AF90, using full Mythic except Weapon and Helm which are Necro.

[raw ridge]

i am really struggling to survive in sf180 even after tinkering with my skill wheel

not sure what's going on, let me screenshot my gear

[valid thorn]

Can I see your gear and skill wheel?

[raw ridge]

yeah let me screenshot right now

[valid thorn]

One of the possibilities is also just the bad AB pathing. Like I can 1 shot everything in AF90, BUT if my character suddenly sees a mob on the other side of the map they will path to it ignoring all the other mobs attacking you.

[raw ridge]

for wheel i tried three things, first the one on the left here (the pre-200 ab)

then i took everything off except for haunting, pandemonium, kishin, yaksha, and barrier

then i tried putting barrier on a preset with haunting so it got cast more often (?)

nothing worked, dying very quick at sf180 over and over even in full pt

potion is level 9 at 90%

(all buffs are on autobuff, just split them between pets)

[valid thorn]

Can you one shot or quickly kill mobs in SF180? Just because you have access to it doesn't mean you can do it.

[raw ridge]

i understand that! just wondering why i'm struggling so much there, reading through this channel it seems like the gear should be good enough

i know kanna is squishy but after the buff i feel like i shouldn't be dying as quickly as i am and i'm wondering if there's something i'm missing

[valid thorn]

Is that a yes that you can kill them?

[raw ridge]

let me check, sorry

no i'm not one shotting with haunting

i mean if i'm dying i guess that's expected right

but i guess my question is: what is the gear standard for sf180

[valid thorn]

Even with haunting as long as you can kill them within 3 hits you can do it.

But one major thing is the set bonuses.

[raw ridge]

yeah i need boss accessories

[valid thorn]

So I just took off all my accessories and it dropped me by 4M damage.

[raw ridge]

sheesh wow yeah that's a big impact

i'll work on getting those up and then retry maybe

[valid thorn]

Did you also flame your gear?

[raw ridge]

not yet really, just getting started on kanna

so that's another place to focus for sure

[valid thorn]

I recommend doing Chaos Expedi everyday for the unique flames and try to flame for CD scaling with Exp on all pieces.

AFter that you can start pooling the unnique flames and try to double flame a gear once you have enough.

Whats your jewels looking like? At least all S rank?

[raw ridge]

s rank yellow yeah

[valid thorn]

What kind of emblems are those?

[raw ridge]

all cd and one ba

minus the secondary which i'm working on (matk rn)

[valid thorn]

Nice, I rolled CD on mine and was too lazy to go for MAttk.

[raw ridge]

wait is matk good for secondary?

i should rr for cd right?

[valid thorn]

Mattk is the best for Secondary due to the scaling on secondary weapons.

[raw ridge]

oh really wtf wow

i had no clue, that's great to know

then i guess i don't have to rr it haha

[valid thorn]

I just didn't want to take the chance of getting a bad RR and be stuck with it for awhile and CD is 2nd best iirc.

[raw ridge]

yeah there are so many potential emblems for secondary right

like looking at the list there were more options so harder to get a good roll

[valid thorn]

Mhmm

[raw ridge]

do you play na scania btw?

[valid thorn]

I do.

[raw ridge]

what is your ign? or is it secret

thank you for all your help btw

[valid thorn]

MikoEin, #7 on the Kanna board.

[raw ridge]

so pro wow

i'll look out for you!

[valid thorn]

I wish. People keep playing her making it harder for me to climb!

Idk how fast you plan on gearing. But if you're taking longer than 6 weeks to finish exalting Hat, Gloves, and Outfit then you should probably try to get the RA Top/Bot.

[raw ridge]

oh that's good advice too, i think i read somewhere yeah that overall is only better once exalted and ancient or something

[valid thorn]

Yeah.

It takes 6 weeks to get your first time clear for RA Top/Bot. Afterwards it takes 10 weeks for other pieces.

[raw ridge]

got it!

[valid thorn]

tldr;
Do all expeditions everyday to increase your chance on drops. The sooner you get them(regardless of unique or legendary rank) the better for set bonuses.

Flame your gear for CD scaling with Exp
Do Mu Lung Dojo everyday to buy 15% exp necklace.

Do The Legends Return once a week to get Legendary God of Battle Medal.

Do Kerning Tower as high as you can to buy Kerning M Ring once a month.

Find a guild that will carry you through Chaos RA for RA items.

Best of luck, if you have other questions just ask away.

At your current setup I think you can survive SF168, if not you might have to stay in SF144 until you get the set bonuses.

[raw ridge]

really fantastic advice, will continue to work at it all

and yeah i am surviving sf168 no issue, next stop 180

[valid owl]

Crazy how n40 weapon and full mythic is struggling at 180. Nexon’s a bich for kanna’s ab

[raw ridge]

yeah it's rough haha

taking a look at things it looks like it's basically an hp issue

gonna try tinkering some things and see if i can't improve survivability 🥲

[valid thorn]

The issue that set bonuses fixes? Half of them offer HP and damage reduction.

If you're able to one shot mobs and still dying then thats Nexon's fault for AB pathing and really nothing you can do about it than pray for good luck to not path to your doom.

[valid owl]

If compared to sia I don’t think hp is the issue, given both have dmg reduction, kanna don’t kill fast enough

[raw ridge]

well they kinda go hand in hand no?

like killing faster or tanking better while you're killing

i think hp is the low-hanging fruit

seems to be that 5s gap when barrier is down that is the problem

if it coincides with foxfire not being ready

[lofty sky]

No no no. He must have confused magic attack emblem with magic damage emblem. That’s two different emblems. BIS is magic damage. Though, meso-wise, physical damage sells for a lot higher.

[valid thorn]

Ah yes sorry. ^ one is right.

[raw ridge]

oh this is good to know actually

i didn't even click that those were separate emblems

ty for letting me know! and np at all アイン

[raw ridge]

it was hp after all

increased from 44k (slightly undet 2x touch dmg) to 56k (slightly over 2x touch dmg) and went from dying within ten mins to surviving all evening no issue (no bishop party)

just in case anyone is reading back struggling at sf180 too!

[valid owl]

thats coz you're hp is at the borderline of dmg taken

my63k kanna dies time to time at af60 if i dont kill fast enough and lured multiple mob on me

[raw ridge]

yeah! i'm just saying a little bit more hp was the easy fix

[acoustic garden]

Im Jambajjuuuu. Always see u on the ladder 🙂

[valid thorn]

Ayyye! I wanna make it to the top 5. Wondering how the top 2 got so high lv'd.

[brisk anvil]

@valid thorn ur the kanna that landed necro on first try right?

[valid thorn]

Yee

Twice in a row.

Failed the 3rd one so my legend ends there.

[brisk anvil]

imma go cry

[valid thorn]

Lol

[steady canopy]

Am I wrong in thinking that this passive doesn't do anything? The wording of the tool tip would imply something that I've never actually seen happen.

[valid thorn]

If you have Barrier skill active the passive is active. Though I don't think there's really an indication if it's working as intended.

Also not really sure how it stacks up to 3 times since we only have 2 barriers iirc.

[steady canopy]

Yeah that's what I thought at first too, but checking in the stats nothing changes. It says a barrier in the field is created, but that doesn't happen either. 10% mag dmg would be great though.

[steady canopy]

The only thing I could think of for another barrier is Circle of Suppression. It calls itself a barrier in the tool tip.

[valid thorn]

Ooh! That could be it! I was only looking at Barrier names.

Yeah honestly not even sure if the damage increase is implemented. Kanna still feels a little weak.

[steady canopy]

Definitely agree. Another issue I have are probably overlooked bugs. I just don't know how to get evidence to show and report.

During AB there's an inconsistent delay or lack of the buffs being applied by Haku (which is huge for survivability). From patch to patch im never sure how it'll behave.

I also noticed that Yosuzume procs far less for me during AB, but I can't tell for certain because there's no battle analysis for AB.

Additionally, the healing from lifeblood ritual feels like it's nonexistent as well. If I take h pot off pet auto heal and watch my health bar I don't see heals, and 10% every six seconds is huge.

I love this class and Kanna's playstyle. I started playing the game during her debut, and I feel like I'm bare knuckling it everyday to make extremely small gains. I think she deserves to be done right, but I also don't feel like Nexon cares.

[neon zephyr]

Can anyone share the skill description of kanna v1 v2 and v3?

[valid thorn]

I 100% feel the same about Kanna. Like when she was announced I started to pool all my shared mailbox resources for her.

Her survivability is an issue, but I mainly feel like it's due to the AB pathing. After putting in Rope Lift I stopped dying.

[neon zephyr]

Damn

Kanna v skill is all damage skill

Kinda suck since she’s a more support mage class

So her lower dpm should be compensate w utility but she doesn’t really have any except for a stun n flower barrier to boost some damage

Other dps classes has damage boost for party so it’s not an exclusive thing w kanna

[valid thorn]

She was top tier in JMSM, but they brutally beat her with the nerf stick coming to GMSM.

Stunning a boss is pretty big. Plus party buff for damage or damage reduction is nice.

[neon zephyr]

True

But lots of other dps class can do that

Mechanic and wh both have fd buff, sia has fd buff ba buff revive, and those 3 out dps kanna by a mile

Evan has Md/pd buff that’s huge, explorer mages have meditation

Bishop has low dpm but has unique support skill to compensate

I just wish they gave kanna a unique support skill that only she can provide or some sort of rez maybe, so she can shine as a support

[valid thorn]

Is she suppose to be a support? Besides the barriers that's not very support like.

[neon zephyr]

Well she’s meant to be I think

Like how pcms she used to help w mob spawn n such

[valid thorn]

Ah PCMS didn't really catch my attention.

[steady canopy]

Yeah rope lift helped a lot, but even with it I'm still having weird survival issues. I can do af90 just fine for like a week long, and then I can't do af60 at all just out of the blue.

I've actually watched ab for long periods, and there's points where Haku's buffs aren't being applied correctly. Idk, but I don't think it is isolated to me. I'd rather not screen record it. Goiing through playbacks sounds like a miserable time.

[valid thorn]

No it makes sense cause like on paper with Haku's buffs you should have no issues with survival. That is if it's applied.

[steady canopy]

I made a pcms account for link. I may go see if it has warding barrier, and if so see if it differs. Unfortunately, there's no ab'ing in pcms, so no comparisons there.

[raw ridge]

yeah kanna has been important support on pcms

like attack speed, final damage, matk, boss dmg, heals, long bind

a lot of nerfs and changes over the years tho

kanna, beast tamer / lynn, and bishop

i'd be so hyped if we got lynn on msm

[neon zephyr]

I’d play the new beast tamer

[raw ridge]

even old bt is fun af

i'm biased though

lynn looks so cool tho

i guess we watch taiwan msm haha

[acoustic garden]

Petition to buff Kanna 😭

[steady canopy]

Not a single adjustment to Kanna this patch. No bug fixes. No tool tip corrections. No buffs. Nothing.

Don't fret, Kanna remains broken as intended. 👍

[viscid token]

what is Kanna TPBA for normal weapon? 29? or 30?

[brisk anvil]

if there's smth higher than 29, it's 30

[valid thorn]

30

[viscid token]

ty

[feral folio]

have a 160 kanna alt, wondering if I should invest in it or not. Does Kanna still need full mythic to survive high sf maps?

[valid thorn]

If you mean like SF144, then not really sure. I was full mythic to survive in there but that was before the changes.

[viscid token]

This is my Kanna, she survives at sf180/184 but dies at AF90

[feral folio]

Bruh wut 😦

3 ancients and 6 boss set not enough to survive af90

Aite, just gonna invest bishop and sia lol

[winter kite]

Which AF 90 u went? I think ur level cannot go AF 90 yet.

[viscid token]

not the new ones,

[gleaming barn]

Anyone willing to share 1 hour AB at sf144 - pre 200. Thank you

[midnight trellis]

Hyper 141 151 161 171 181 Updated something, just started playing.

[copper elbow]

Any idea how to achieve full mdc lines? Even on full buff I'd be hitting max 12-13m per line on vanq and maxed spirit domain for bossing

[obsidian maple]

i tink MAG DMG

[neon zephyr]

Which boss specifically

All your stat could use improvement. Cd is close to 400 so ok there but def get boss attack closer to 150 and attack closer to 40k, esp when you’re lv220.

[copper elbow]

Mainly on my cra/hra and ark/hmag runs, my lines are capped at 12/13m ish. Okay gotchaa, yeah there's a lot to improve on my stats and gears haha. My boss atk gets to 170% with full buff on but if you're saying to get at 150% for base that's kinda hard for me to reach haha, might take some time to upgrade

[copper elbow]

Wow 170% mag dmg is crazy! Your stats look insanely good.. #idol

[obsidian maple]

Full buff paty+buff30%+DS4

[copper elbow]

Well, that's what it looks like to be rank 3 kanna in A2S hahahah. Keep on grinding 🔥🔥 I guess I have to work on my mag dmg. I just watched your lotus run on youtube 💯

[obsidian maple]

Rank 1 coming soon >> Clwana

[copper elbow]

yea everyone's' catching up ahah

[sacred agate]

Hey guys I just started i'm lvl 70 how should my ability wheel look like?

[steady canopy]

Opinions?

Looks like another disappointing patch for Kanna imo. If they're not going to change the skills themselves, I wish they'd fix the confusing and misleading descriptions.

I appreciate the damage adjustments somewhat. They didn't have to lengthen the vanquisher's charm cd.

[acoustic garden]

The v4 skill is so bad

Yeah damage went up a bit with vanquishers charm and the new buff, but man the v4 skill is so underwhelming

Invincibility lasts like one second which makes it hard to use due to the mana issues as well

Idk. Nothing new for kanna i guess

Cd increase on VC makes no sense either. Not like kanna was pumping dmg b4

[viscid token]

how does your vmatrix looks like?
im aiming for the better output with less investment 😅 currently lvl 205 and still dying at AF90.. I have no idea why

[warped wolf]

Uhhhh can you guys use V4 during Auto Battle cause I can’t…

[acoustic garden]

It is not usabale during AB

Lol

It even says so in game 😭

[steady canopy]

Do you have rope lift? Pathing is a killer.

Also, what does your skill wheel look like? If you have Orochi for mobbing af90, get rid of it (aggros too many mobs to you). Kanna pretty much needs full mythic for af from my experience, and pet auto buffs are mandatory.

[steady canopy]

I wish I had v4 to even test out. I scrape by with nodestones drops even on M Tower.

[warped wolf]

V4 cannot be used during Auto Battle and cannot be registered on pets…uhhhhhhhhh

[steady canopy]

Sounds about right. Up there with all the other things Kanna has going for herself.

[acoustic garden]

Started playing this game about a year ago as a kanna main. This might be wut retires me sadly

I wish they would so balance changes more often than like once every 3 months

[valid owl]

The real way to play is set alarm and cast v4 during ab

[dusky flint]

Skill like V3 dawn but dawn is still 🤡

Why nexon hate kannav

[stark sparrow]

All i say hope it's a miss cuz it really isn't a skill if u can't use it during ab 🤣

[viscid token]

ive use it manually dring AB.. I end getting the meso reduction message for manually playing.. 🤦

[steady canopy]

To repeat what I said for the April patch, "Kanna remains broken as intended. "

They're not going to fix mistakes. Kanna is the mistake.

[stark sparrow]

Thats true but i starting to get why they did it as a kanna in a170 i clear it almost solo without v4

[stark sparrow]

So only thing i miss it for is ab mulung

[steady canopy]

Tested Orochi for mobbing in af160, and it now hits hard enough to kill mobs (without leaving survivors to swarm you). That and the change to a 30s cd has actually increased my kills/hour significantly.

[stark sparrow]

Ye the updated orochi and nine-tail buff did help alot 30sec cd instead of 40 and honestly the more i play the more i dont really mind not being able to use V4 on ab

While farming in af170 theres times where u clear the map as 3 people so everyone just stand still

[eager coral]

hello

[echo tapir]

hi fellow kanna mains if yall are out there, would appreciate it if u guys thumbs up my feedback post

#msm-feedback-qol message

[eager coral]

Nice one

[subtle flax]

is kanna actually bad? I saw one in our server doing 1500b+ in ghb. I am just curious.

[echo tapir]

for end game content ? yeah its pretty bad

[subtle flax]

Yeaa in general!! I was just shocked seeing that number in ghb

[echo tapir]

i mean in gms kannas are a lot better, they have to rework it in msm lol

do u mean 15b or 1.5b lol

[subtle flax]

No the ghb octopus

A kanna dropped 1500b

[echo tapir]

oh i was thinking smth else nvm lmao

[subtle flax]

LOL

That’s why I am asking

[echo tapir]

well it also depends how funded they are too, u have to like be super funded to actually be useful lmak

lmao*

im full 50s and i still get gapped

[subtle flax]

I seee

[echo tapir]

post v4, more gapped

40m kanna is like a 30m kanna no joke lmao

[subtle flax]

damnnn that sounds sad

[echo tapir]

its sad indeed LOL came from gms to this so u know the vibes

i still wouldnt rr tho cause i still like the class, its just a bit frustrating to see how she is compared to other classes, like she has potential but they doing her wrong here at least lmao

[burnt kernel]

Not to mention kanna don’t even have passive or buff that give us movement speed and md lol

[eager coral]

would like to see a damage increase outside of vanquisher charm, the moment it gets interrupted kanna dps drops so much

[warped wolf]

Kanna’s V4 will be able to register on pets!!! Yay!!!

I wrote a letter to report this issue, so glad it’s answered and fixed

[eager coral]

Yay

[acoustic garden]

@echo tapir are u samorie by chance?

Ive been seeing u on the ladder/mulung for months. I am jambajjuuu

If samorie cant do late game bosses with abso equips, we r completely fked LOL

At the very least they could fix the BA aoe shield and make it actually usable during boss runs

[echo tapir]

o yeah das me

oh i recognize u

[median oyster]

[valid owl]

Feelsweird having domain expansion everytime I login to the char now

[subtle flax]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-jjk-gif-7852288549512337287

[viscid token]

yes !

[steady canopy]

How hard is it to get issues passed along and fixed? And where is the best place to submit issues?

[warped wolf]

I find that by “reporting an issue” in the Customer Center gets issues fixed pretty fast, you can access this in game through Options > Account > Customer Service

[midnight trellis]

Node Perfect uses it.

[patent canyon]

i on my way to exalt 40 just wondering which route should i go for inherit or necro?

[cerulean token]

Anyone know how much FD domain gives at max lvl?

[steady canopy]

Latest patch broke my Kanna. Haku isn't doing any buffs now.

[steady canopy]

Anyone else experiencing this?

[quaint gust]

Definitely think kanna got silent nerf. I can’t survive sf180-184 anymore is wild. Lvl 199 with lvl 40 emp weapon and overall gear is pretty good

[steady canopy]

If you watch your buffs, is Haku applying any of the one's listed in the Haku Reborn/perfected skills?

[past galleon]

Anyone free to have a chat with me. I need some suggestions on my Kanna..

[steady canopy]

What kind of suggestions are you needing?

[past galleon]

Gears and suggestions

[steady canopy]

There are multiple guides across the msm discord. Check pinned messages.

Rank up/fuse main armor/weapon to mythic. Pray to RNG overlords for their mercy that you get emblems. Tricksters they are, as you'll get useless ones. Then pray some more for emblem change scrolls.

At mythic level exalt to level 40 (more praying but now sacrifices will be required). Only once you hit lv 40 do you then dare refine...

I wouldn't know beyond that.

You can hold out for BiS pieces if you choose. Don't feel like you need to get anything quickly. % chances are atrocious and just have to be patient. Only thing fast in the game is burnout and crashes.

[steady canopy]

Yay! #3

📌07.29 Patch Notice
Maplers, a quick patch has been scheduled
▶Patch Schedule
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2024.07.29 (Mon) 16:15-16:35 (Asia/UTC+8)

3. Fix an issue where Kanna's 'Haku Reborn' is not casting the skill correctly

[viscid token]

Does v4 cooldown reduces with higher skill lvl?

[past galleon]

I’m on mobile, which trio is best for Kanna in terms of farming wise?

Actually found this on a website. Is this correct still?

[violet lava]

Anyone can share Kanna link skill?😆

[strong flame]

Anyone have an updated pre-200 AB wheel?

[spark crypt]

Where is the love for this class

Literally non existent, and needs a buff

[subtle flax]

our kanna in inosys is destroying everyone one in ghb. Kanna short burst is def op

[glad frigate]

Fr

The dmg is quite insane, but for me it’s just not comfortable playing this class compared to many others

#will-conqueror message

[fringe lark]

For trio nodes which should I focus on since I just hit 200. I do not want to accidentally deconstruct a required node. Any help would be appreciated 🙂

[steady canopy]

Vanquisher's charm, shikigami haunting, ninetailed fury in any combination would be ideal for your first trio, but that'd be a lucky start.

[feral nebula]

https://youtu.be/5o7J6aajO_Y?si=wvUNTMW9qQU924Nt

Hope it help 😊

[patent mason]

Any ab skill wheel for below 170 ? I don't need bossing since it's not worth it to setup without 170

[steady canopy]

I've found that this works for most AB (exclude Spirit's Domain pre-200).

If using Orochi, place Kishin right before since it's static. They're both 30s cool down now, and Kishin helps protect Kanna from the extra aggro brought. If Orochi doesn't 1 or 2 shot for you, it's best to just remove.

I'm AB'ing af170 btw. Although I have to adjust dependent of the party buffs I get.

[patent mason]

So I only use orochi if it one shots?

Also I'm only level 153 rn lol

Gimme like 7 days I'll be 170

[steady canopy]

If it doesn't, you're pulling a lot of aggro across the map. Orochi doesn't just hit in the camera view.

Plus you want to maximize the target count.

[patent mason]

ok

[sullen moth]

Dang, no one plays Kanna

I needed SF 168 survivability tips

[sour crescent]

anyone knows the perfect base stat for kanna's fan

[wary otter]

Hey guys

What do y’all think of Falling Sakura skill? The hit count is kinda decent but I don’t see anyone especially the pros using it @@

Is it ok to boss like this?

@warped wolf also want to ask why did you leave out Ghost Yaksha Boss in your perfect trios @@

[lofty sky]

MoonBean didn’t leave it out. If you turn on cc, it will tell you to switch out nightghost guide for it. If you’re running 9 skills, you’ll switch it back in at the cost of exorcist’s charm.

[wary otter]

Ahhh ok got it

What’s Exorcist Charm good for though, isn’t it earlier level’s skill?

[lofty sky]

I mean it won’t be in the perfect trio. It’s all in the video. You can also watch clwana’s version https://youtu.be/5o7J6aajO_Y?si=QNwmHXZ2Gr-3_zFZ

[feral nebula]

I’ve tried this preset before compared to just spamming Shikigami haunting. It end up with lower total hit count. probably because its casting animation takes a bit too long. And also its skill dmg is pretty low which only 100%, making it hard to hit MDC. So imo it’s just not worth using.

[wary otter]

Ahh got it thanks for the input!

[flint saffron]

Hi guy

Kanna good in bossing and lving for now !m

??

[stark sparrow]

Kanna have a good lvling with alot of aoe and a skill that gives 10% exp.
Bossing is okey nothing insane maybe below average.

[flint saffron]

Oh ic

I really cannot decide my main

Or just cont my wind archer haiz

Got AOE and single target not too bad

[stark sparrow]

Decide by trying out the classes if u enjoy the bossing cuz thats pretty much the only thing we play

As someone who main kanna i dont really care to much about bossing so it wa s either bishop or kanna for me for that %exp xD

[flint saffron]

What's ur main now bro

[stark sparrow]

Kanna

On my server theres 0.01% that play kanna so wanted to play more solo selfmade xD

[steady canopy]

I'm not sure. I get carried by some highly geared people. I've not had much luck with exalting gear or getting emblems. No necros to speak of.

I have seen some better equipped Kanna's, but not anything spectacular. I'm 220 with 216 sf and 470 ap. I don't have any issues with farming af 170 or higher.

Kanna is pretty flashy, but pretty meh

[neon zephyr]

@dapper mortar hi, I’m wondering how is kanna bubble with “hit dmg reduction” different from other classes with “all dmg reduction”

[dapper mortar]

Hit damage means when you touch the boss, all damage means boss damage, including the skills, so Kanna bubble is useless🤣

[feral nebula]

I’ve ever asked them. Hope it help

[neon zephyr]

Damn

[feral nebula]

At least it works in Ark run and dojo😂

[steady canopy]

I still wish they'd remove or fix warding barrier. It doesn't actually seem to do what it says (or anything). In GMS, it's an actual buff that appears on Kanna.

[feral nebula]

I also have queried about this before as well. They said that the MDI is a passive effect provided when we reach level 60 for level 1 and increases in percentage as we increase its level. However, I have never tested whether the MDI we gained is different or not when increasing its level. Anyway, I can see the effect of reduced mana recovery while casting a barrier on the map which is not good literally 😅

[steady canopy]

I literally just created another Kanna just to check lol. So it does give the 10% increase to MDI. It literally just needs a tooltip rewrite.

[feral nebula]

Did you take or record your screen while you leveling it up? So I can email them to fix it again.

Otherwise you can report them yourself as well.

[steady canopy]

I didn't save a recording unfortunately. I can do it again, but it really would be just them rewriting the information to be more representative of what it actually does.

[feral nebula]

I’ve tested it already. The skill provides MDI once we reach level 60. As you can see, I’ve got 2% MDI in my SS when I reached level 60.

So the skill’s working as it said.

[feral nebula]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood you haha. Yeah I totally agree with you, the skill’s working but need to be rewritten its description 😂

[wary creek]

Hey, what Hyper Skill Passives should I be getting?

[knotty prism]

Final DMG > MAG DMG > Additional Damage = Max Damage Increase

If you're a whale it's probably Max Damage Increase first

(I think)

[wary creek]

Well I'm a plankton so I'll go for final damage first 😅

Here's to hoping we get some damage and survivability buffs with the new patch

[lofty sky]

I guess the barrier cannot have 100% uptime anymore…
Edit: nevermind, the hyper passive is the same.

[rapid narwhal]

it’s looking good

[stark sparrow]

thats a pretty good update for kanna

[rapid narwhal]

feelsgoodman

[feral nebula]

I think Spirit Domain got nerfed really badly. In the previous patch, we were able to manage mana consumption to extend Spirit Domain’s duration to around 1.15 minutes. That way, we could contribute a max hit count of around 1800. But after the patch, the duration is fixed at 45 seconds without any increase in hits/sec so now the skill’s total hit count is fixed at 1160 instead. It’s reduced about 650 hits/casting 🥲

Previous one

After patch

[subtle flax]

it is that why kanna doing crazy 1min burst before? Or not related pure nerf

[feral nebula]

Yeah, they said the reason is that.

[subtle flax]

600 lines is a quite sad

[stark sparrow]

As someone who always actived it instant same thing still😂

[subtle flax]

our kanna is still doing crazy multi ghb score it seems

[wary creek]

Hey, does anyone have an updated skill wheel post-200 for bossing? I've been watching moonbean and clwana's videos but moonbean's doesn't include skills like liberated spirit circle, great lord etc and I'm assuming those are really important and clwana's skill wheel seems to change in every boss video XD No offense to those content creators, they've been very helpful so far!

[lofty sky]

From what I read in the skill description, spirit circle can’t be directly summoned and is automatically activated… so it won’t be in the skill wheel. Great lord is optional because you can have it in pet.

[wary creek]

My bad on spirit circle, but wouldnt it be better to put great lord in some sort of burst macro for bossing? Or am I just misunderstanding Kanna and it's just spamming every skill whenever available?

[feral nebula]

Personally I put great lord in the bursting preset and use it manually cause it’s helpful in terms of consuming mana to put the domain up to stage 3. Especially in previous patch, it’s pretty good to help controlling mana consumption and maintain the domain at stage 2 for 45second then rapid put it up to stage 3 last minute to extend 30secs. With this we could contribute an extra 600 hits from domain. That why you’ll see I always put it on my skill wheel in my previous content. Anyway even the current patch we are unable to extend the domain’s duration anymore, great lord is still useful for consuming mana and put the domain up to stage 3 as fast as we can, which is pretty good for fd buff on bursting period. So personally I always put it in the preset and use it manually for bossing.

[wary creek]

gotcha, that's what I was thinking too. Do you happen to have a screenshot of your skillwheel/presets? Super interested to see how you've set it up!

[feral nebula]

So far, I actually haven’t found my own best skill wheel and preset yet. As you can see, I keep changing it in each content 😂

[wary creek]

@feral nebula oh wait, you're clwana?

[feral nebula]

Yep

[wary creek]

Oh damn, love your content! Was really helpful setting up my nodes now that I'm past 200

[feral nebula]

Cheers mate! Grace you love it.

[wary creek]

I guess do you have a skill wheel/nodes suggestion for someone that has limited node slots? I'm trying to get to ark+ and I'm wondering what I should prioritize with my limited slots? I know you mentioned maxing spirit domain and great lord first but any feedback would be much appreciated!

These are the nodes I'm working with. I've only found 1 perfect main trio in the hundreds of nodes I've opened XD

[feral nebula]

For limited node slot, I would recommend you go for V Skill first and do probably only 1 trio (3 skills). Probably helps you contribute a bit better damage.

For the trio I have prioritized them in my video already I think

Imo we should put all V skill up but not necessary to maxing it. Like Yuki ghost, we’re still need its buff in bursting period to make sure that we are able to cast all skill with our limited mana.

[wary creek]

That's surprising, I would have figured maxing shinigami would be better to max first just cause we're using it all the time, but makes sense the 5th job skills would be the most powerful

So based on your node video, for my slots, the skills I should have equiped should match the priority of leveling them up. so v1-4, Perfect main trinode x2. Then when I get more slots Princess Sukuno, Ethereal Form, 2nd set trio and Sengoku force etc etc?

Also, I'm guessing you like ethereal form cause then you can guarantee your burst ie. not get stunned out of vanquisher's charm?

[feral nebula]

Actually, if you got node slot just like this, I would recommend you go for 4 V skills, Princess Sakuno, and 1st trio.

But based on your character status as well, if you are un able to reach your MDC normally, Sengoku force would be helpful.

[wary creek]

I am no where near my mdc XD I just exalted my jaihin ba emblem fan to 40 yesterday so I'll be trying for necro next week when I get enough event coins for scrolls

[feral nebula]

Yeah, but not the must as we are able to move on bursting so yeah

If not enough slot, go for it later would be better choice

[wary creek]

I've been interupted enough even in cexp to know I should probably get ethereal form XD

[stark sparrow]

Doesnt help with interruption

[wary creek]

oof

[stark sparrow]

Use stun

[feral nebula]

Ahh, I see. If your playing style just like that, sure you can go for it as it also provide passive MDI as well

[wary creek]

gotcha, I really appreciate the advice, it's been super helpful!

[feral nebula]

Yeah, for cexp, using Stun would be the best choice. But for higher content, you probably have to practice evading yourself, as we won’t be able to stun the boss every time we burst.

[stark sparrow]

For sure

Most the time we wont even use stun for bosses when there are quicker one

[wary creek]

Last question for now, what do you guys typically have for your burst macro?

[stark sparrow]

And then vanisher

The 4th is my spam buttom while my stuff are on cd

Im using a very friendly setup where i just use few buttons and most are macroed

[wary creek]

I love this, my presets were getting way too complex

so damage rotation seems to be spam 4, use 2 when it's up, and burst with 1 + Princess Vow?

and use v1/v3 when they're up?

[feral nebula]

Mine is way too complex as well, so better not to share.😂

[wary creek]

All good, I suspect you'll have a different skill wheel in your next video

[feral nebula]

Sure haha, as the new patch we got new buffs come with Circle of suppression. So I try to divide all buffs into 2 periods to make sure that Vanquisher reach MDC all the time. 😅

[knotty prism]

???

Yes it does?

Using ethereal form lets you cast Vanquishers Charm entirely regardless of pushback 😅😅

@wary creek

[stark sparrow]

ye ur right i assumed wrong about it, been using it for only as iframe more then let me do dmg

[unkempt linden]

Can someone explain mana vein to me? The little circles on the floor that are made. It's suppose to restore mana when you stand on it right? I'm not sure if it's working

[feral nebula]

It just provides additional mana recovery about 3 more units/5secs while standing on mana vein. For example, normally our mana recovery rate is 30 units/5secs. So, standing on mana vein, it’s going to be 33 units/5secs. Anyway if we’re casting 1 enhanced barrier and standing on the mana vein, the mana recovery rate will be 30+3(stand on mana vein)+5(enhanced barrier effect)-2(warding barrier effect) = 36 unit/5secs. if 2 enhanced barriers, mana recovery rate will be 30+3+10-4 = 39 unit/5secs while standing on mana vein and will be 30+10-4 = 36 unit/5secs if standing out of mana vein. However if we’re casting just 1 normal barrier and standing on mana vein, mana recovery rate will be 30+3-2 = 31 unit/5secs which doesn’t obtain the enhanced barrier effect.

I think the skill is working properly.

[unkempt linden]

Cool thank you

That was a lot of math

Lol

[reef hazel]

How's Kanna Sai vs blaze wizard in 2025 for sf147 and chaos bossing, curious haha

[agile steppe]

Anyone has difficulty AB-ing kanna? I have a full mythic gears and still dying in AF160 map.. Any idea? or is my AB wheel rotation set badly? Anyone can advise?

[viscid token]

is withhaku here?

[undone echo]

No clue

[steady canopy]

Do you have rope lift? Are you one shoting mobs? Using kickback res jewels? Could also be aggro management.

I farm af 380 w a mix of cra gear and mythics.

[steady canopy]

Also a big part of kanna's survivability comes down to pet buffs. Haku Reborn is a must... otherwise I have to lower what I farm.

[tawdry timber]

Any AB skill preset for Kanna at SF147 without pet buffs?

Had been trying to survive with legend armor and full set Rank S exp jewel

[lofty sky]

Moonbean’s vid is still valid. Take out any aoe that’d agro all the mobs that you can’t kill quick enough. Maybe spend like 1 silver pet for the Haku buff and see if it changes anything.

[ivory ocean]

hi do yall run full cra set?

[steady canopy]

I run a full set, but that's only because I haven't gotten my mythic jaihin weapon to necro yet. I stopped exalting cra gear though, because I'm about to run out of attempts... mostly fails, such is my luck

[unkempt linden]

This is the worst class I've played in terms of defense

Kana's defense is garbage

[knotty prism]

Huh?

She is literally the strongest class

Also they're gonna make her even cooler and stronger in the future

[ivory ocean]

anyone can show me their ab skills rotation and bossing hehe

[knotty prism]

(I wish there was a 5th preset)

[knotty prism]

bossing

AB

I'm honestly a bit confused about this skill myself.. It seems REALLY good (for ab)... But my experience many times has been that removing it from AB rotation will keep my character from dying when trying a new Arcane Field....

[lofty sky]

I prefer not to use it too, cause less movement means less mesos. About your AB skill wheel, I thought c presets don’t work. Your Will skill is repeated, and some skills like v1 and v4 can only be used from pet(?). Also, is that sakura tree?

[knotty prism]

Ye that's just on there for me to play manually in exp.gear for some reason

The Combo preset

[ivory ocean]

hii for hyper skill what usually do yall put your points in to?

[dapper mortar]

I do not allow you to say that

[stark sparrow]

it's the best one for sure, but u have to 1shot/2shot

[knotty prism]

I have it like this, just all focused on single target damage

[ivory ocean]

thats alot of preset AHAHHA

[knotty prism]

would be much better if we could make a 5th Preset tbh

[ivory ocean]

anyone has kanna vmatrix to showcase 😄

[knotty prism]

[ivory ocean]

thankss usually how much crit att do yall hv?

[ivory ocean]

and how do u get the node at slot 11?

[lofty sky]

Will Node, available at level 235. Can be purchased from trade station.

[ivory ocean]

ohh oops not there yet XD

how do u allocate so many buffs to ur pet :((

[knotty prism]

I generally don't, I use all my "burst buffs" manually with a combo preset during battle to benefit as much as i can

I do put them up for AB though of course

But with bosses I prefer to activate buffs like Princess blessing/Great Lord all of the short buffs with big cooldowns myself

[scarlet spade]

Hi, am i the only one who find it challenging to Kanna’s skills? There are so many skills and unsure what to utilize at what situation

[lofty sky]

Noob Kanna here. My strategy is to do v skills first, then c skills, then boost. Pre-cast spirit domain and all summons (i.e. c2) on where boss will spawn or move to. Try and use 200 mana asap, but keep in mind v1 affects this. V4 depending if you need the iframe. When boss spawns, use all the boost node skills. Reactivate the previous stuff after 120 seconds.

[steady canopy]

My burst is usually manually using all buff skills> summons> Spirit's Domain and Yaksha Lord> Vanquisher Charm... After that shikigami haunting/summons until cds are up (most things are dead before cds are up with the group i run with)...

[steady canopy]

I don't have all my perfect trios, so i have more boost nodes than necessary. And I just put extra nodes in to pad my cp for Elite Dungeon.

[steady canopy]

I wish they'd simplify Kanna a little bit. Having so many buffs and skills in general is cumbersome. AB is ok with pet buffs, but having burst buffs on pets for bossing is not optimal.

[lofty sky]

A little tip on padding the CP.
https://youtube.com/shorts/m5_C_6lfhGs?si=9jnVU9x-CtoAqG93

[scarlet spade]

It appears that the level 100 AOE burst skill are mainly for mobbing only?

[steady canopy]

You'll have to be more specific, bc I use all the skills except for Falling Sakura.

[steady canopy]

I guess I don't use Orochi much during bossing.

[edgy wasp]

Is there a storage keeper in Momijigaoka (i.e. the recall location of the Lv 1 Kanna skill “Return of the Five Planets”)? Does a certain quest storyline need to be completed to unlock the storage box at the recall skill location (like for Lynn)?

[main sapphire]

is there a roation guide for kanna

[rapid cedar]

Some thing liddat if u want wheel

[nova forum]

Hello, looks like this chat has been left alone for quite a line hahaha, I don’t see much kanna, are they still as bad as they say ? I’m actual trying to build mine but can’t find the time to sit and read through all specifics, maybe someone can share their skill wheel for AB/Boss and their nodes pls ?
Thank you :3 hope to see more kanna main 🙂