#Ark
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Not sure is there any correlation, but this was implemented on Dec 22 in Kmsm
They revamped Adi Hyper Stats in Kmsm
Basically classes with fast attack speed or tons of lines via burst or natively high hit counts per skill will be affected by this
LMAO, clone and add dmg effects does not activate this
Alrite, now i understand why certain classes dropped a few tiers
This change is incredibly drastic
Imma guessing Ark isn't so badly affected as they have both atk speed and lines unlike Pally and DB who are dependent on their lines but they dont have fast attack speed
rip
@red quest enjoy merc and pray this doesn’t come to global
im not worried 😂
I doubt Ark and Merc are affected by this
They both have ridiculous atk speed and lines
Heck PF will benefit greatly from this
It will come to global
Only a matter of when
Yeah I think you’re right maybe the additional lines proced from the clones won’t be so significant
Its their atk speed that makes up for it
Despite the clone nerf
Yeah merc clones burst is still solid
Thats why Merc is still S tier in Kmsm despite adi revamp
But those current meta classes like Pally and DB all drop a tier or 2
Since they only have lines but not attack speed
But I still think they shouldn’t bring it to global though
PF still D tier in the charts regardless
I remember he ranked this based on dmg deal to phase 1 Damien or something, this is also pre-cygnus remaster
Yeah but the chart is right about one thing though PF being D hahahaha
Okay let’s not crash ark’s channel
Yeah lol he also took down all of the guides he posted lmao
Is this song? Or someone else
Forgot
Nvm at least we have you
Moon i pmed you
It’s alright your YouTube videos are insightful
Ohh okay 1 sec
Glad they are helpful
Yeah back to Arkkkkk
Any pro ark wants to flex their nodes/videos
I think it will
Its a means to balance all classes
Just like Song and his team dps charts
This in some ways will bring some parity to those classes at the lower end of the dps charts
Stonks
woof
@upbeat lichen @wooden mountain
Then again, its outdated now since this is prior to cygnus remaster
Doesn’t really matter now. Tier list doesn’t apply to gmsm
Doesnt matter, i really want to see bsp in podium thou
So i can cut over from kinesis
Let’s just forget about this list, it was just for sh*ts and giggles

Kinda looking forward to V3
how do u unlock ark's buff skill called floran heros will
lv150 quest
whats the quest called
look at your quests, its red and the skill tells you which quest it is, its like Azan something
V3 will be a fun update
V3 will be nice sustain
Damn 1b
🐳💯
Dang that’s a db st ghb there
Dont think db st should be regarded as the metric for ghb st
NL, Blaster, Mercedes and Pally are capable of doing 130, 140 and higher
Mercedes prolly will be doing a comfortable 140, 150+
Not with the same mdc
I’ve had a pally with better stats then my ark and same mdc, it’s still about 20b from my ark if I do perfect run
ST
and GD reflect that’s too
My pallys was like 930
and my ark has 3k less atk then my pally and less stats. BA and phy dmg wise
I just went through song’s list and see the highlighted ghb st this morning that’s why I use db
But those in record is easily 25 levels ahead which means 1 max hyper stat difference
We yet to see any lotus chart yet right ?
Alot of the stuff inside the charts are not really updated as of recent
Ya no ark yet
I'm one of the person inside Song's team that is updating the scores
There's some records that have yet to be added despite ss shown cause alot of us are quite busy haha
Like for example, A1 Blaster doing 499b in Ghb
Its not yet added
Daamn
But yeah the chart is purely for reference when there’s need to compare efficiency
Likewise NL GD of 1.25b is based on 26.1m cap however the now retired A1 NL did even higher with 31m+ cap
31m cap wtf
Especially after the introduction of chaos and abso and level 60 gear
Mdc’s everywhere lol
Yeah its messy atm, since technically its still early
Absolab 50 is still new and Absolab 60 is very much a rarity for now
thats highest cap so far in na and asia?
31.6 if not wrong
The retired NL from A1
He already sold his gears 😅
But there wasnt alot of nice things said about him thou
Since he literally pull strings to ask his server to help him get absolab 60
Only to later sell them away at a slightly cheaper price
Oh well
Interesting insight
Yeah we know
I guess if we’re getting the ied v skill update the tier list is gonna shake
But it hasnt reach us yet
share 
So till then we will still update based on the current Cygnus
Until remaster hits global
oh im just curious what kmsm is like now
Hmm, you have to source on youtube
@deep saddle has quite abit of remaster cygnus content as well
Do check it out
Reason: Bad word usage
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hi !probably this has been discussed before, but can i ask on 171, which hyper skills passive should i add?
i have already added battlearts - reinforce, specter state - extra healing, and specter state - enhance
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About the patch notes… does the new content affect the existing hyper skill setup recommended on the pin?
it shouldnt unless you put points on blissful restraint for utility 
Reason: Bad word usage
😂
did nexon fix the stuttering bug on ark?
w update for ark or naw?
No
Nothing but a bind change
brehhh
Hi anyone tested the new adi? Doesnt seem to proc when i manually cast basic charge drive
Why would you want it to proc during flora form 
R u ark main now

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It ain’t cutting if you’re not rebuilding hyper stat, m label and pet, maxing node, transferring symbol tbh
Cutting gear is just some crystal spending course
Buffs/nerfs come and goes all the time overall ark have more potential (in my opinion) maybe it demands more management but still... and eventually ark might get buff aswell, but I'm glad that you're happy
Ark damage and potential wise still better than bucc
I think Ark might be the strongest pirate class
Ark is probably one of the strongest atm on same level as DB
and with v3 probably stronger then DB
Its not might. It is the strongest.
Doubt Ark as at the same level now. Prolly is better now.
DB are reporting drop in dps via gd alone
After adi revamp
Im not sure whether Ark was just as affected or nothing changed
If we were to compare in your perspective as a f2p. Bucc > Ark for sure due to Bucc being easier and cheaper for f2p to manage
Yeah Ark definitely not for F2P lol
ILM is beast after patch
I can fell the buff

Hi, gusy.
Any guide for perfect trio nodes for ark?
Somone can post plz?
Perfect trios
Main ones are 1-2-6
Rest you won’t need till your like 225+
Otherwise you won’t have slots for decent skils or all v skills especially with v3 coming out soon
FYI This is what he meant by 1,2,6
can check out my Ark video for more info on 200+ Ark
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@grizzled patrol
Hi does anyone know what this skill does? Apart from the spectra recovery. Been watching my character AB but I can't figure it out. 🙃
You’re not supposed to put your point into this
Basically when you go into specter state using master corruption, you immediately gain 10% of the gauge. Also lets you cancel skill and go into specter state
Ahhh ok thanks. I just put it in to see what it does since we got the free hyper skill reset scrolls anyway haha.
Not sure if your right... he should check the pinned massage, if I'm not worng they recommend to learn it
When you’re doing more bossing is when it’s ok to do so

what weapon and armor should i go for ark?
rlly depends on u
just go for absolab everything and necro belt
Is this the best class now?
So what class recomended for F2P?
Just play Dark Knight
This skill is nuts, holy fuck. But V4 is a whiiiile away
msm missing so much tbh
ark top tier as long as it's linestory and not dpsstory though
that's why ark dogshit on pc but strong on mobile
One damage cap increase can screw the entire meta lol
Linestory dum af anyway
ehh v3 is just extra lines
It’s the same guy in my video aha
He said not his best run, just his first attempt
Or u could get Blasters’ V3
Lock itself in place for maybe some 40+lines,with a pitiful iframe and all ur ammos gone
Looking lit ain’t it?
A burst skills that actually makes u lose dps
1.2k lines a minute ye I’ll take that shit

Not sure about msm lines but nightmare is 9 lines per att and has a 12 sec cd, less if you weave spectre skills. Thats like 8 casts at most per min
where are you getting this info from, cuz it casts every 4 seconds
???
It’s 72 lines every 4 seconds
passively
No cast or click
what are you looking at lol
I literally said not sure about msm lol
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its all good, just peep the vid
@cedar basin any new pr’s?
Nah been bored lately lol
i mean if they made it 72hits in 4 sec cd, then msm just made the skill giga broken lmao
maple doesnt get fun until the later bosses
trust

Just different game
would only be broken if they gave it the same amount of skill dmg
same game, with different meta
its only dif game if the bosses that go to msm
are new and not the same ported over
its a different game, not gonna fight you on this
.... its just a fact that msm and pc play very differently
yes we have a different meta, but its not just the same game ported over with a different meta
Not confirmed on MSM yet, but KMSM it’s 72
classes are the same, bosses are the same. Lucid, Will, Ctene will come after. It's a modified version of the same game.
even maps are the exact same
That’s not on par with what you said before tho but ok
You said same game different meta, now you’re pretty much just agreeing with what I said before
Also there are more than enough differences which is why we say it’s a different game
But you must be new so I totally get the need for comparison to the base game
I'm 277 on pc and 228 on msm l0l
Don't see why you're against my opinion of the two being the same game with slight differences.
Because its objectively a wrong opinion
Its okay I am wrong sometimes too
It happens
Instead of just saying you're wrong, you should say why.
From the visuals, 99percent of classes, skills, maps, bosses, all of them are derived from the base game MapleStory. Adding mobile-esque gacha, limiting damage cap, and modifying the damage formula does not make it a different game. It's like saying chess variants like crazyhouse is no longer chess.

i would agree, msm is just a copy paste of pc ms with some changes so that the professor dont notice its a copy paste
gear system and auto battle are the biggest differences
tbh
its sad that nexon literally copies and pastes their own assets and still cant learn from their own mistakes
exactly lol
you can literally tell what's coming out next (lucid/arcana) based on the pc version, so calling it a different game is just laughable
in fact, nexon took what pcms couldn't monetize enough (face/hair slot coupons for 1 dollar) and threw it onto msm as mannequins for 30 dollars.
The universe is the same but the game isnt. Different gearing, different stat goals, different leveling, different boss progression (chaos daily for example on mobile), different systems entirely to progress your character (gems,flames,potentials, legion, etc.) , the way cosmetics are obtain is very different, reward systems are different. I mean I could keep going but ill just stop here because this is an Ark forum lol
It’s not, only bossing
And use pinned wheel
Any beast ark yet?
@stiff tulip
@regal rapids
@sullen totem
what's the cooldown on Ark V1?
90s
yes
What I think I'll do is
stick it in SF168, and wait for next burning
Because I have no more classes left that I wanna push to 200
understandable
yeah it dies way too easy lol, probably best to just revisit when funded
I'm at 30.5k Phy def with 88k hp and still randomly die in sf194 
At least it's in 2-4hr intervals instead of 40min now
So I either upgrade the 2 legendaries that don’t give hp into mythic for more def, or I actually have to exalt gear to survive 
Reason: Bad word usage
yup its a real pain, i had to stay in sf180 till 200 with my full mythic emblem armor(no emblem on shoulders or belt) and ancient wep
and still couldn't do 194 post 200
Ark either need one more goooood invincibility or make it less squishy
Ark is either you die first or you kill first, but most likely, you die first 🤣
lmaooo
Skill issue 

💀
Show us your skill 😉
what hyper skill passive shd i add for ark

What pins should I check for ark ? 
Ark is so ded. Need some improvement nexon.
Not ded, you just need a higher credit card limit
Ark is de way.
Just not for f2p
So close
The perfect trios supposed to be on same 3 skills Until lvl 225 and higher right?
Feels like I’m way behind on ark. Anyone can show me de wae?
on what ?
Everything on the Ark character 😂
Needs better armor than most classes that's all 
guys can u show me your bossing wheel? and maybe a video of bossing like gd or honor?
Should be a bossing wheel 🛞 n the pins

Yasssss

Why does this image make zero sense to me?
It should probably look like this
This is what I’m running (I think it’s correct)
Yea that looks good, nice progress
OP
Any tips on how to clear Mulung floor 41? Can't seem to figure it out haha
I'd have already used Blissful Restraint and Abyssal Recall on F39-40
Damn I’m dying at af60 with 70% v8
#buffArk
Dying at AF with those equips... So glad I didn't push resources into Ark
Ark is not ded :/
is any of this skills castable by equipping on skill wheel instead of pet
i know mages mana overload has that feature
The 1st 2 are dice is manual but refreshed via pet buff
I don’t equip the first 2 on pet.
Rather manually use it when I need it rather then realise they are on cool down but it’s just my preference.
Infinity + overdrive is part of ark burst, using it on autobuff is griefing
V8+
hey guys new ark here just hit 124 what should my first steps be?
Get to lvl 141 and start to follow the recommended passive hyper skill points I guess... and keep on upgrading your items all the time
Yellow exp
where do i find the reccomendations?
You need to be able to survive SF184 + to do AF60
whats best way to get meso?
By Not farming with ark 💀
Maple points
AF170
Savage
Well how do I get maple points? And what class should I farm with?
Farm with Shadower
Maple points you need mesos to get if you're F2P
Ahh ok and if I wanna spend money?
Go back to blaster community
What gear should I upgrade first/replace?
@vernal storm what class turns into shadower? Shade?
Shadower...
Explorers -> Shadower
Buy good gears and farm at the highest map you can, level to 200 and farm nodes
Weapon > topbtm/overall > hat > glove > shoe > shoulder > cape > belt
In that order
@true laurel should I upgrade them in that order or replace them with different ones?
You have all the correct types of equipment, so you can upgrade them slowly. Or if you have the mesos just buy ready made ones.
You probably should find CD/BA emblems of those items to upgrade though
Especially for weapon
CD/BA?
Ahh ok do I get them off chaos expeditions ?
No, you have a small chance of getting them from fusing items
Just get mesos and buy them off trade station when you have the chance
Emblem items have better stats
Oh emblem weapon I thought you ment the emblems you get from like pink bean xD
Any one can give me tips on how to progress my char, im lvl 143 as ARK I have bought unique eclectic set and Jaihin claw weapon, I feel kinda stuck(all of them lvl 12SF)
Just have to SF and upgrade them. I wouldn’t be too concerned about set at this stage since you’re leveling and the set bonuses don’t really do anything
Try to get to SF 113/115 for now (2SF on each item). After that it’s just a matter of fusing your weapon and other equipment to legendary
Should I aim for a specific type of equipment (like a set or smt) or just legendary no matter the type
Any legendary will do, when fusing legendary for mythic go for jaihin or utgard
If you have the mesos always get jaihin weapon, jaihin hat, bloody gloves, electic overall and shoes
Go for 17-18sf unique before you fuse
Overall probably becomes top/btm later on
That’s only if you want to invest in those items though
If you’re still farming on a new account just fuse and up your starforce
The stats hardly matter until you reach mythic, and even then you want to prioritize having sufficient gear to go into stronger maps than to actually care about the stat bonuses
why is that? because of the destroy prob?
Thank you for all the help guys! I had an farming kanna on reboot so everything was on easy mode XD but now im playing on mobile and im trying to figure out everything from scrach
Yea, easier to repair at unique. Also fusing drops 1 SF.
Ideally you want to get to SF 130/133 when you’re at full legendary. Unfortunately Ark’s survivability is pretty bad because of how short the range is and how much it dashes into mobs, so you will probably need 2+ pieces of mythic equipments to farm in SF144/147
That’s the checkpoint for early-mid game
I just started reboot, Ark has great burst in gms but everything else is trash
Ark seems to be the only class that gets a complete rework for 6th job which is awesome
All 1-4th job skills get new animations and heavy buffs when you get hexa matrix unlocked
so farm in sf fileds up to 200? and then its like the normal maple to farm in arcane?
and which hyper should I aim for? (both stats and skill? for stats im upgrading FD but should I go for smt else as well?
im sry for all the questions I was searching for this info online and couldnt find anything
Pexp/exp is bis, prioritizing leveling is bis don't let anyone tell you otherwise
More matrix slots/ passive levels to vskills is huge
Pexp>exp>final damage is a good start
Or just pexp/exp and save mesos for when you unlock second hyperstat page for bossing later
Also for training crit rate hyper is better than FD, since you won't be using crit rate buffs during ab anyways
Not a good route for f2p though. They essentially get bonus exp which doesn’t even cover the exp gain from higher maps.
Better to just save for high SF equipment to jump maps at that point
Thanks @neon knoll
At lvl 1 is it good?
skill dmg is pretty low at lvl 1 from what i recall the cooldown and lines remain the same throughout
For kaiser's it enhances or main attack. So at low lvl its not recommended to use for bossing because we will do less overall damage. Wonder if that was the same for ark with the 80+ hit count I assume not
dumb question what should I buy from the event shop? I thought about the -100M discount on hyper stats
Ohh and another question is it better to spend 50M to rank up from unique to legendary or fuze 2 uniques?
Took me a while to grasp this, but yes. Sf 194/ + ability to 1-2 shot mobs should be first priority before you start spending on exp hypers
Fuse unless you are ranking up an emblem jaihin weapon
Or just rank up if stones are expiring soon anyways
hi, has anyone noticed that after the v3 update impending death orbs damage is not hitting the same cap as pre patch?
hey guys the my daily question XD what jewls should I aim for? all exp?
yeah that would probably be your best until you reach close to endgame
Usually I work on two types of jewel since it seems more efficient than working on one. I would aim to get 5 S rank Yellow EXP jewels first, then 5 S rank Blue Physical Damage jewels. Work towards SS by using spare Mu Lung Master jewels and Legends Lucky jewels. For QoL, some try to get yellow drop rate jewels and blue speed jewels, when you open third page (with crystals). Some debate between Blue PHY DMG jewels and Purple Boss Atk jewels though.
just started Ark whats the best auto rotation skills?
What passive should I take at the hypers?
Check pinned message; the one posted by MoonBean.
Thank you!
Check pins there’s an AB wheel
For V Matrix, I've got V1, V2, V3 skills and Perfect Trio. (7 slots total)
What's next?
- Loaded Dice (Enhances Roll of the Dice)
- Overdrive (Weapon Overdrive)
- Decent Sharp Eyes (↑CD&CR, ↓PD&MD when att)
- Decent Speed Infusion (↑BA)
- Decent Combat Orders (↑PD&MD)
Note: I haven't crafted these so I don't know the full skill description
I'd say Loaded Dice > Sharp eyes > Combat orders > speed infusion @primal nacelle
V3 overdrive sucks atm
This is what I'm running for AB for now, I swap rope lift and sharp eyes out for Combat orders and speed infusion when I go bossing.
Thanks @woeful dagger for your suggestion, will try it out 🙂
What v skill should I use exp nodes on first?
“Skill issue”
Is you bad, not the class

Ark is trash not bad

anyone that have gone through Ark, Lotus with this job can share some experience and opinion
Anyone got an ark ab wheel pre hyper wheel
Checked bot commands for ab wheel but no ark D:
@stiff tulip
Just levelling to 140 for link&legion haha
I thought ark v3 made them good lmao guess not
Nope. Ark still trash. You won't know until you play it 
Go ark main!
Is ark weaker than buc,shade and TB?
I just hit 200 for my ark
What is the perfect trio or whatever
I have these two nodes
What I do now 😌
Probably on par with shade with maxed nodes
Just opened this node! Is this a perfect trio?
Any ab wheel for 150 ark?
I pm’ed you awhile back sir haha.
Also no, that’s not a perfect trio for ark.
when does ark get good
on fourth job rn
but i think i will delete or keep it for link/legion
starting to see the big flaws of this class
looking at this chat i dont think it will ever get any better
legion mule it is then
Probably just get to lvl 200ish then delete and remake when they are top dps meta class
You just need to buy super good gear
Also most of the dmg comes from V skills so post 200 with investment 
Is ark weaker than Bucc / shade?
Depends on your equipment
There are so many videos on Ark AB & Bossing wheel, do they differ from each other a lot? Or it is fine if I just follow MoonBean guide?
Moonbean guide is fine tbh till 200. Then depending on whether you value clear speed vs node farming potential then you would have to switch it up
Just don’t equip hyper and you should be chillin.
depending on how geared you ark is varies your experience with training (good or bad) cuz it’s relatively squishy
@neon knoll any wheel which emphasises clearing speed?
for post lvl 200, just make sure you have abyssal recall (v1) and the v3 equipped. along with endless nightmare and basic charge shot and you should be fine.
you can add more skills to your rotation to provide party buffs occasionally but it hinders clear speed
Do u mind sharing ur post 200 AB & Bossing wheel
1st one is for farming/training, second one is bossing, and the third ss is presets
may i ask for ur preset 1, why do u have the gust drive on 3rd slot? also for bossing wouldnt it better to have abyssal drive to have its own slot on the wheel?
I have gust drive w the preset to auto refresh the battle frenzy buff without have to press multiple buttons. It’s the lazy method but I do adequate dps by spamming the preset. You can opt for it to be in different button but then you have to be mindful about when you can use it and precise to animation cancel with endless dream
As for abyssal drive it’s preference I like keeping track of cooldowns so I just have all the buff skills on a preset and occasionally tap lol
hmm sounds good, ill tweak here and there, ill see what suits
I use the same one listed on pinned messages
Any pro arks know why my spell bullets buff wont proc at arkarium but it works fine at hmag?
I turn the auto buff off to charge it up before I load in the boss and turn it on right before the boss spawns for both ark and hmag.
Like, see it works here but when I do the exact same thing at arkarium it never works.
You’re gonna have to show the arkarium run too so I can somewhat see what the issue is

Hahaha alright I'll record my run tomorrow. Only recorded the hmag cause I noticed it didnt proc during ark
How much of a difference do the spell bullets make? I’ve always just auto buff on my pets this whole time
Is it really worth the micro managing

I think its worth it tbh its like 10% BA FDI PDI CD I think
1 for each of the buffs
Ohh I suppose I usually just start with flora form on my runs 
Then proc specter when I see the buffs populate
Yeah I store it before I go in hahaha

I used to do that too but I've been trying to maximise dps recently hahaha
Is it a significant difference? In terms of dps
Magnificent souls have not been kind to me though sadly
Yeah especially for short fights like GHB you dont wanna waste that 5s proccing the buffs
Yeah... it works sometimes and sometimes it doesnt. Can't figure out why and its annoying me hahaha
Prolly a bug honestly lol
Like at Guild immortal dungeon sometimes it only procs 2 or 3 out of the 4 buffs
I don't put on my pet. Manually activate before bossing. 🤭
Has anyone tried this skill wheel?
is this for training
Yes
I don’t get what you mean by that? Need to see your ark run 😂
@woeful dagger i just tried it in my ark run yeah the stored spell bullets dont procc
same thing happened during ghb
Damnit well that’s disappointing.
It usually works fine in ghb for me though.
I’ll record my run later haha.

@stiff tulip would like to know your strats and dmg charts too
hes trying to learn from a pro
I aint whale either.... I'm just a nooby shrimp trying to learn how to play it right

Pretty sure you guys are better. 😂
Dude... 48m cp with 879m dps in ark?
What you feed your ark man

Have been playing ark at the endgame since launch ie. full necros with a few lvl 50s legion >5.5k and running all boss contents the moment my level permits. Here are some things i have dry tested myself.
- Full channelling lvl 170 hyper netts lower line count compared to one tapping and spamming endless dream instead.
- To store bullet buffs before ghb/any boss content you must be in the same cc as the host in order for the bullets not to be erased.
- battle frenzy active is a must have at 100% uptime for higher cap ranges due to the fact impending death orbs are the hardest to cap (i cant cap impending death in arkarium but all other bosses am fully capping due to enemy def/lower boss levels like hmag)
Cant really think of anything else on the fly but feel free to dm me should you have any questions or have any new nuances discovered on the classes that we can all learn from. Images are some of the PBs i have hit in the recent few months. Cheers!
Omg its idol August
Hahaha thanks for the tips!
Btw on this point:
Full channelling lvl 170 hyper netts lower line count compared to one tapping and spamming endless dream instead.
1 tapping the hyper is more dps than letting it channel? I thought the hyper procs a lot of impending deaths
I tested in a 30s window 1 channel duration vs one tapping netts around 300+ more overall line output in 30s
For full burst on single target bosses one tapping is better but u have to have good gauge management for bosses
ie. in arkarium double lightning normally will proc 1min from boss spawn so switching to flora and avoiding the stun then rebuffing drive buffs and switching back to spectra for maximum dps and uptime
In lotus
In b1 its v impt to switch states before u take the portal
b2 and b3 switch back to flora when lotus teleports/orb phase/platform if there is no stun
All these is to maximise dps and manage the gauge efficiently.
Interesting I’ve always been full holding the hyper this whole time

So I guess it’s only worth holding for the multi during ghb? I’ll have to test this myself
How is battle frenzy active related to capping impending death orbs?
Not related to capping per say I think they meant dps wise cuz of the maintaining that 3 stack of battle frenzy will give you the most attack speed to allow you to spam skills faster to spawn more death orbs
@solemn prawn what is your mdc?
A lot of the AB wheel include the 3rd job blue skill. Why is that? It gives BA buff which isn’t relevant during AB and the dmg scaling isn’t as good as first job basic skill so I think I’d rather spam it.
Can someone explain when does ark passive (convert mp to attack) seem more relevant? Seems like v2 infinite mana means max mana bar at all time means max attack bonus but is there any other mechanic regarding the max MP beside that?
Thanks for the tips dps increased quite a lot @solemn prawn
If youre not capping your death orbs then every bit of dmg adds up
The blue skill in spectre mode has decent damage. But if you are post 200 you should use jimmys AB wheel
Above 22 now just got my 6c 5 mins ago no cap
No probs :’)
So do you spam endless dream + one of the linked skill when boss?
I do it the more troublesome way and manage the frenzy buff by looking at the buff bar
Damn... you is OP
I don’t see jimmy wheel in pin
Endless dream has more lines than all the drive skills so spamming that is better
Previously there was a bug in the v1 skill also so i removed it from the preset
I do the same, means you need an extra tri node?
@compact moon
No if you manage the buff bar manually and reduce the times you use insatiable hunger then you wont need an extra node
Got it. You use insatiable hunger mostly to stay on the buff?
Could you please share how you do culvert? I found myself always running out of spectre energy.
Gotta practice maintaining specter for that 
From my numbers, the blue skill in specter form is less dmg than endless nightmare also so why would I use it beside if I want to dash around?
My ark is also low level, 130
Anyone know anything about the 2nd part of my question?
What gear is required for ark to survive at sf168 and 180 respectively ? Outfit and weapon 18sf lv30 sufficient? and the rest 18sf unique and upgrade to legendary as needed to survive?
If used properly it will upkeep your battle frenzy buff. You don’t necessarily need to use the blue charge skill you can use any of the charge skill buff to keep the buff upkeep
As for the AB I’m not sure either I remove that skill for ABing
I’ve been skipping it for my AB and my battle frenzy buff is always 3 stack since it always end up using the combo of 2nd job skill within 10s
Nice!
As for equipment to survive sf, I’m not sure but ark is relatively squishy so you might need some mythic equips not just unique/legendary
If you are only lv130, don’t worry about it. Just try the skill and stay alive in sf map
I see some preset for bossing here and I’d like to ask for your input. I start w charge drive then blue skill, then 2nd job skill and 4th job skill. My reasoning is blue skill needs to be chained so I’d have to jump up otherwise. With this order, it’d chain the blue skill then use the last 2 without the need to chain them. Thoughts? A lot of the pinned preset for bossing don’t start with blue skill.
For your other questions regarding v2, it is not what you think it is. Nothing to do with MP, your attack is scaled with your base MP. So boss sets/ cape/ shoulder will help with that .
So what does the “infinite Mp” part of v2 really do?
Nothing. The skill name is infinite spells
It increase impending death orb when in spectre mode
So for survivability, I’m always thinking cost-effective method. Besides upgrading gear, which can be costly and reduce the sf needed to reach sf180. I’ve seen suggestions from previous chat in this section mention using evade in legion, put evade soul in weapon. Has anyone have any luck with that?
In flora mode, it fills up all bullet slots
At sf168 and 180, is touch damage what killing ark due to keep walking pass a mob to try to target the next mob? Or is it like piggy punches burst that kill him? Reasoning is to figure out if phy def or mag def is more important for those map to survive.
Touch damage
I might try the evade build then see if it helps with being touch-less
If you are new or still low level , you should try to progress bit by bit instead of jumping to the end SF
I’m considering maining him so I’m looking to plan for the long run
Most of the classes will just end up dying
Farm boss sets and get HP as high as possible. With v9 pots 90% you can survive with 20k touch damage
I see. So either improve hp to survive 3 touch or enough def to survive 3 touch, whichever way or gear that I can find to do that.
Not sure, you need to figure out yourself. The most helpful stats is PHY DMG reduction
Does any gear have PHY dmg reduction?!
From rings/ m label / some other stuff
Or potential only
Gotcha. I’m at 5/7 for boss set. How much is mlabel set usually if you try to gamble it?
How many piece is mlabel? Tbh i haven’t even looked at it since I assume it’s very expensive and I could get a better weapon before it
5 pieces for full sets, with 3 pieces you get the reduction effect
What’s the name or section should I search for mlabel?
You should try the channel maple game help for more infos
Under styles and find them in each respective section
To start out, I’m thinking of doing full fafnir sf18 , the rest legendary and unique sw. Mix in w boss set and some sf3 accessories I should reach sf180. Just scared if it’ll survive or not at 180
Game is hard but it’s doable with necro weapon and mythic 40 equipment. 🥹
@vestal wraith @vernal storm does hyper passive advanced specter state ( extra 10% specter energy when use MC) go over the cap? As in if I put MC on pet and it activates, will I get 110% of the specter energy? Or is it more of a niche skill to regen specter energy in certain situation?
No doesn't go over cap as far as I know
But I don't play this class so idk
Doesn’t go over the cap. It’s just to help you regen more spectra when you toggle between flora and spectre states when you’re bossing.
I see. So it’s very niche and to micromanage the bar to help squeeze in some extra time in specter?
Does ark still stutter? Mine doesn’t seem to, even if I have just abyssal charge drive and basic cast on the skill wheel. Wondering if im doing something wrong or they patch it.
Hey my ark will be lvl 200 soon,is the v3/v2(also common skills) are good for farming? Or can skip them? I want to open the least as possible nodes so how important it is to have these skills?
I’d say v3 is good to have it passively procs with good aoe and dmg. V2 not so much it’s more for bossing
Thanks! I thought v3 is good,but couldnt find v2 bcz ark wasnt released when v2 came out,what about the common skills?
V2 common is okay it’s a buff that does aoe but it’s not that practical for clearing speed, v3 common is for bossing
I see.. thanks a lot
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Ark burst potential is insane
Disclaimer, this content is not an accurate representation of the class overall dmg potential. Rather it showcases its burst potential.
Uh huh
Can anyone tell me what the perfect trios are ? plzz thx! :)))
Personally I go for 4 trio node, which consist of 2 circle in red, 2 circle in yellow… if you’re low on v matrix slot, aim for the the skills that circle in red
You can go with this or compress the 3 trios into (25 + 5) x2 to get an additional node slot
You don’t really need the flora state nodes cause you’ll be in spectre state when you’re bossing most of the time imo.
Mfkin coppersan making a 10min video to slideshow numbers from pc punchking lmao
When all the burst is front loaded of course ark wins, especially in a mobbing scenario. Change it to single target and nl/nw wins
V3 isnt one of these i guess..
Just got new skill
The second one from the left is v3 but that’s the common skill for pirates
Should i extract it?
It’s up to you if you’re strictly just gonna farm and not do boss content then yeah you could
Keep these,get somehow v3 rope lift and im good?
1st and 3rd
Honestly the first one only is good enough
Then just craft the ark specific v3
Wdym? No rope lift?😅
I mean rope lift is a given
Guys shade or ark
Shade
Shade
I'm an Ark main, I would say go for Shade, easier playstyle + Shade's Split is +++
At the current state, ark has higher dps potential. More lines and solid burst.
Shade has no burst, caps more easily but has consistent dps.
But like what tape said, shade is easier to play and arkarium/lotus teams always welcome shades because their split is OP. To maximise dps with ark, the playstyle is quite a lot more complicated.
Another downside to ark is it requires more significant funding as compared to shade to see good dmg. So if you’re not intending to whale, you might not be very satisfied with ark dps.
HOWEVER, that being said I still tell my peers to play what they like. There’s no point going for the “meta classes” or classes with the best dps potential if you dislike the playstyle and you’re not having fun at the end of the day.

Btw if anyone wants to see team lotus from Ark’s perspective do drop me a dm. Happy to share the recording.
Dm’ed
I think you can just share it hear, if it's okay
Sure
Pardon the discord pings, I forgot to put my phone on silent.
nicely done!
Ty sir for the tips you shared previously hahaha.
Skill whell for training someone?
My ark needs few shots to kill so need to take it as a factor
Wht u guys think of BUC and ARK i have both at level 150 both have very nice skill art
Hi @solemn prawn @woeful dagger wht do u think is better for the weapon soul between mdc and fd for this class. My ark mdc now is 14.5m and I cant hit the cap on the ark run. No buff stats 41K PA, 120% PDI, 350% CD, 95% BA.
definitely mdc in the long run. with levels your damage increases due to the level difference between you and the boss
Thanks! Btw how much mdc is the optimum for ark and lotus?
Arkarium has a max dmg penalty btw. You will never see the numbers match your characters MDC stat.
So you might be capping. Gotta check battle analysis.
as much as you can get
Yea that’s what hesitating me. I mean If i raise the mdc to somepoint where I cant hit it. What would be the point of raising it instead of going toward FD
Depends on your team I guess. When I was 16.4m MDC i was doing about 830m total dmg dps at multi lotus.
personally am at 25m cap now still capping all content
You will reach a point where you're just chasing MDC and/or hp if you're planning to attempt damien.
Cause you'll more than likely cap when you are fully buffed.
I see. Thank you both for the guidance
Wtf mobile ark looks so clunky
Is it bad to combo on mobile

Didnt see any combo into grievious/tenacious
Can someone show me hyper skill passive of ARK please, thank a lot
Thanks Sir ❤️
Vn ha
Dạ việt nam ạ
Dm’ed
Ark getting buffed 😁

Fog forest before and after rebalance patch (unbuffed)
3 mins lv200 boss 0% boss def
goat
Hahaha might be worth full channeling endless agony now gotta do some testing.
nah dont think so unless u wanna keep spectra uptime
I’ve always found my dps being slightly better when partially channeling endless
Yup I just tap it and let go instantly now.

Is the amount of impending death orbs from just spamming nightmare vs full channeling agony the same? I’ve always believed that channeling agony gives you the most amount of orbs spawned
one tapping hyper allows u to get 2 more v3 hits in and generates more death orbs too
I did the testing quite awhile back alr for a 30s window to test 1 cycle of agony aka 5s channel 25s cd and on eyeball u can see the diff alr
If u add up the lines for death orbs + endless dream + vengeful hate + agony + v3 the results dont even come close
the only place u will need to full channel agony would probably be ghb multi
but the stats here is only if youre capping all your lines and need to optimize line count. for high cap ranges ie >35m it might be better to full channel agony
blue drawings for full channel agony, red drawings for one tapping agony off cooldown
Thanks for sharing! Since agony is not affected by dmg reflect, I always full channel it when a boss casts dmg reflect. 🤭
i just did testing for 60 second window and i got better results with full channeling
but this is with infinity
do u have the BA charts?
Okay, so i just tested was based off of a 60 second window where you cast endless agony twice instead of once.
i seem to get more hit count in general by channeling the hyper rather than one tapping.
Blue outline is channeling agony, where red outline is one tapping.
the top row is without the infinity (V2) skill active and the bottom row is with it active.
if you add up the hit counts, the channeling one seems to have ~500 more lines than the one where you just one tap
now, i did test out a 30 second window rq, and i did see that the one tap gives you more in that 30 second window just like MH says,
however, with the 60 second window with the same variables, (fair trade, and no buffs) i found that channeling the hyper gives out more hit count.
this test was very quick and its not official, its just what im finding.. im still curious to see why some Ark's are preferring the one tab method when the full channeling gives you wayyy more impending death procs which leads to a lot more hit counts especially with infinity active. I can see why on paper its more effective yes. you get more endless dream and devious dream procs but you also lose out on all the impending death procs as well.. so its basically a trade off for hit count?
Conclusion:
? 
you should try changing your BA settings to boss instead of ALL
there are more death orbs generated when attacking boss monsters

TLDR:
V2 active, channeling agony is better
V2 inactive, one tapping agony slightly edges
Yeah that’s what I’ve been seeing too 
So I guess full channeling ends up spawning more orbs vs just continuing to use endless/devious dream
Yup but bosses are mobile and lotus push skill will interrupt the channel so this test is just a gauge i guess end of the day it still depends on your response
same
Please someone give me pictures of perfect node ARK , thank a lot Sir
Just tested this, 3 min duration.
Full channel agony for the 1st and 2nd use . 1 tap for the rest of the test. And it’s exactly as what mh said. It’s marginally better. Like 1.5% better.
Anyone got an Ab wheel that can minimize ark walking past mobs before hitting?
I don’t think anything works. Ark’s AI is just dumb.
:((
@woeful dagger sir can you show us the preset skills for bossing ,
Sorry i missed this
Ignore the 2nd one
Do you just spam endless dream or does weaving other skill in give u better dpm?
Got to weave one of these to keep battle fury stacks at 3
Endless agony off cool-down gives you 3 stacks, weave in any of these to keep it at 3 stacks.
Yes I mean beyond keeping the battle fury stack
Oh no, I don’t. Just spam endless dream.
Weirdly sometimes I get slightly better dpm without chaining more skills. Sometimes I don’t. All tests on sage boss.
Is this not a one hit? Lol
Save future slots for ds4 blink and v4 and focus on levelling your v1 v2 and v3 u need them at max level to cook
What server u from
A2S
Hi top Ark 😬
Idol ark
Ima be ark idol in a minute
Ark op
Hi someone can advice of a good wise between CD and BA emblem?
For ex. 6/2 or 5/3 would be good?
Which is the most efficient emblem dividing?
As well for secondary is Phy dmg better instead of adding extra CD or BA?
normally 5cd/4ba
Rough Emblem Guide
375-350 6 BA 2 CD
350-325 3 CD
325-300 4 cd
300-225 5 CD
225-200 6 CD
200-175 7 CD
175 and below 8 CD
Based on your main skill attack %
The guide is relatively old so I’m not sure how accurate it is anymore. But I’m running 6CD 2BA
For secondary weapon emblems, generally PDI > BA > CD
100% BA 400% CD is a rough gauge to work towards
I'm running 6CD and 2BA as well!
Anybody got a Ab Wheel pre 200?
in secondary , should i go for PDI or CD/BA?
PDI
Boss or sf?
Both
Does this help w ark keep walking into mob before it hits?
As in my ark keeps walking up to the mob and get touch damage before it hits
Rather than hitting the mob before it touches
Would u mind sharing a short clip of how it AB?
What gear did u need initially to survive 194?
Post buff?
After the buff
What buff u referring to?
The rebalance or watever
Oh oh. Must have been awhile ago
Seems like my issue is the weapon. And some emblem hat and gloves so I get extra def and hp and should survive ok after
Let me see your gears
I mean it’s still an alt lv184 so just unique gear
But I can see the struggle. Was contemplating on gearing it up a bit
Dont auto set this in pet buffs
Do you happen to know the total exp difference from pensalir 30 and 40
You don’t have to put rope lift in your wheel, your character automatically uses it so long as the node is equipped.
Also, personally I wouldn’t put your preset 3 in your ab wheel. Makes you go into spectre form with 0 spectra gauge and you’re stuck with the 20s penalty.
Yes I don’t leave that in there
Only skill I have in my ab wheel is the bind skill to go in specter mode. I leave out 170 hyper coz of the no spectra issue
This is normal for ark, I’ve tried many ab wheel configurations. Our ab just sucks 
My ark is 183. In a few months I might gear him up a bit to try sf180
Reallly like the class play style…. Just goddamn so squishy
And the dmg is low without gear. I know end game it has crazy line counts but 
Yeah our burst is uh… quite broken HAHA. But can’t be the best at everything.
V skill burst or u mean flora form?
Oh yes , specter
Ark has crazy line count but their skill damage is rather average to low
I'm not sure how high is the skill damage in Kmsm
But in Gmsm they kind of balance Ark's insane lines with lower than usual skill damage
Its not a f2p friendly class if you are planning to play Ark
Yea I know it’s not very f2p friendly
I have bad taste in alt. Always end up liking classes that require insane funding. Top 2 right now is ark and Mercedes
I’m still capping at lotus it isn’t that hard to cap with full buff after the rebalance haha.
Yes that
50% buffs with tangyoon
Chestnut
yes that too
That’s it right? The rest is defensive buff
There’s guild campfire too.
And Boss rush but you can’t use those every time haha.
Ark's V4 is lit as well
Ye boss rush doesn’t count for me. And the guild potion
Burst skill
Ark v4 looks so cool
Big mouth goes chomp chomp
My only issue with ark is I always get too excited and forget to watch the spectra gauge.
Bye bye dps. 😂
Idk why they implement that 20s
It’s so punishing for no good reason
And make AB so horrible
Thank you lol
Thats v5 look so cool 
Yea that sucks they need to make us like kaiser to where it seems infinite
And yea i fixed that earlier, didn’t feel like ss again lol
What that gear looking like @woeful dagger
Gloves are 50, I just ran out of powder 
strong man
You stronger tho...


oo chaos50 :ooo
Opppp
Lets see it 
Underrated class. This class has a lot of lines I wonder why people don't play it
idk.. im glad they dont, i can have this class to myself lol
although i would like to talk to more ark players
That's why we are here 
we need to get more active here
im trying to get some more ideas and knowledge ab ark lol
What do you want to know? Hahaha.
Speed infusion, sharp eyes, combat orders
You can craft all these to use
Hyper body too
But if you have a fixed ab party or bossing party with a pala then you don’t need combat orders
Nah don’t bother
You dont use overdrive?
Nope, I’m capping even without it anyway.
But if you wanna use it, I heard it has to be at least lv25 for it to be worth using.
The penalty when it’s on cooldown is too severe otherwise
Out of all the decent skill, which is the order of importance?
Speed infusion for bossing, sharp eyes for ab I guess.
Since you have a paladin with you.
For solo bossing I meant
Then speed infusion.
Oh wait if you don’t have a necro weapon then just take sharp eyes.
Yeah
#buffark
I think they’re hesitant to buff ark coz it can get op real fast
And it’s a pirate so they not gonna make him meta 
they should make it to where we can almost forever be in spectre state like kaiser or ou rnormal state can dps almost as good
nah learning how to manage spectre gauge actually differentiates the actual ark players verses the people who just press 1 skill
Yea to utilize the extra recovery hyper passive when using MC is at another level on top of everything else we have to manage
yea this class is unique in its own way. esp with the extra buffs we get out of spectre form
no ds swap. A1 peeps probably can do much more
That flex….

Dont forget create party later 😂
Anyone can recommend bossing hyper passive?
It’s pinned
For bossing: 12789 or 13789
For AB or Alts: 12789
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Normal Damien Ark POV if yall are interested 
Thanks @tengvenchoon4293 for helping to organise.
Ark MDC - 23.7
Can I know what is the requirement for normal Damien?
Honestly I’m not too sure. I’d say 170-180k hp and 22-23m average team MDC is doable but you’d have little to no room for error. Mechs have to be near perfect and rng has to be on your side.
The team I’ve been training with is only around 21.8 MDC average. The team that I ended up clearing with in the video was a joint effort with 5 guys from my friend’s team with a higher average MDC which gave us some wriggle room to play around with.
Op. Ark is the carry
Hey guys
The order in which Ark V skills are upgraded are V3, V2 and V1?
Ark v1 > Ark v3 > Ark v2 > Flora v2 > Pirates common v1 > Pirates common v3
Sorry can’t remember the names of the skills offhand.
Thank u bro ❤️
Hello , I have a question about the ark. I play Ark as main and I invested in the gear some , but not too much.
Currently farming at 180 SF but I die with V6/7 potions (90%). Rather than other classes with lower gears that survive there.
Is it something common to ark?
That is my gear
No I don’t have yet , about my skill Ab rotation I’ve tried many different wheels but none of them helps
I currently use this one
@lavish quartz try without those skills, what’s in your preset, the yellow P
In the preset I have the yellow P the yellow cube , and the blue chain or whatever it is 😅
if you have issues surviving, this would be a better rotation as gust charge drive gathers mobs around u
replace v1 with creeping terror
Always trust mqwrf. He gave birth to ark himself
How do you guys maintain specter state? After it completely ends it takes so long to restore. Even with the hypers added
Do you just go in and out before it completely ends?
i usually go out of it after my burst or when i have orb aggro in damien. also there are ways to sall the spectre gauge such as using ur v1- depending on level it wont lower gauge after use, using and holding down hyper also doesnt lower gauge, as well as the iframe creeping terror.
it just takes a bit of practice and getting used to. im still trying to get the hang of it trying to be in spectre while ds4 is up as well as my other passive buffs for most dmg and then go back to flora for a few seconds to get gauge back up
Cool.
You’ll get the timings down eventually. Most importantly never let the gauge empty out. Manually exit spectre form. The 20 second debuff is too painful.
spoken like a KING 
I learned from the BEST. 
Does anyone play ark anymore I feel like I’m the only one😓
Same, I'm playing Maplestory M again and picked up my ark where I left off















