Ark

[potent maple]

Shade I agree yes

Mech and ab? Hmm

[pine girder]

Jokes aside I think mech is top5 strongest classes with no funding

[potent maple]

I rank my character based on 3 things

1. how well they survive with minimal investment
2. the aoe
3. how much damage they deal

Mech and ab are mob magnets

Not sure why, but that is just my experience with them

[pine girder]

Mech is a mob magnet i agree

But

Just need the right wheel

And its op

[potent maple]

I used to have a level 135 mech

[pine girder]

Bruh

[potent maple]

Even with max legendary weapon, he wasnt one shotting mobs in sf110

[mighty glen]

I’m good lol

[potent maple]

So yes, mech really needs more investment to do real damage

Alan probably has a level 50 necro

Your my goals brother

[pine girder]

I dont

[potent maple]

[potent maple]

Dont lie

[pine girder]

I really dont

[potent maple]

Ok then

Shade was the only pirate that I really connected with

The others just didnt do it for me

[pine girder]

People stay sleeping on mech all good

Excuse me

Mech is best pirate

[potent maple]

You are excused

Mech can now change colours

[vernal storm]

Bucc was cool before revamp tbh

[potent maple]

Yes I agree

I actually mained him for a while

Then they nerfed him big time and now I dont know what to do with him

😂😂😂

[vestal wraith]

You won't main Ark lol, try it for us hehehehe

glad it helped

It's creeping terror works best with AB, abyssal charge and blissful restraint sometimes bug out and has Ark following mobs (continuously taking touch dmg)

[mighty glen]

ill try that one

[vestal wraith]

I think if you take off all 3 massive AoE
Put on encroachment + enhanced healing
You will have a whole lot more specter uptime

Because as long as you go in specter from master corruption, it should trigger the passive regen while still in specter

Yes

[vernal storm]

Was thinking this

[vestal wraith]

Might learn Korean just to plat kmsm lol

[vernal storm]

If it would give more specter uptime, using encroachment

[mighty glen]

nah bro, i was all for it, till i found out the leveling is also like pcms

cant just sf some gear and hop into a high sf

cant even do sf5 at like 100

[vestal wraith]

Yeah I don't find any of those fun, I was forcing myself to like pally just because he is a tank but what fun is that lol

Same with thieves, they are 1 button smashers 😴😴😴

[mighty glen]

good call on this one, cuz it hits more it actually kills more mobs

[vestal wraith]

Me too, I feel like a baby trying to climb up a chair without double jump lol

[vestal wraith]

So it's harder to level up?

How does it work then? Quests only?

[vestal wraith]

The benefits of leveling 2 Arks lol

[mighty glen]

in my short time trying it, i pretty much used quests to lv, then got some gear from the growth pack, didnt really change my gameplay tho

[vestal wraith]

Got my gf playing haha ofc Ark main 💪🤣🤣🤣

[mighty glen]

if i could read Koren im sure theres a guide out there somewhere

ayy teach her well

[vestal wraith]

I know a bit of Korean from my previous work experience at Samsung I mainly remember their obsession with micro managing and extream dedication to work performance

I'm surprised Korea doesn't have a work Olympics

[mighty glen]

ayy nice, maybe you'll level a bit faster

[vestal wraith]

Ark still chugs down potions like crazy so im glad I keep like 3k on him lol

1k v4 per hour

I guess its time to upgrade to v5 xD

[mighty glen]

i always use V9s lol

[vestal wraith]

How much meso are you farming hourly?

I'm finally up to 1.3M/hr now I just gotta farm for 50hrs to rank up my weapon lol

[vernal storm]

6.5m + node drops on my bucc

Ark i net almost nothing because of potion costs

[vestal wraith]

That's a lot

[potent maple]

Understandable

[cedar basin]

is hero v3 not many lines? It's crazy in pc, but obviously doesnt translate 1:1 in mobile.

[deep saddle]

I’m not sure about Hero but if I found out I’ll let you know

[gentle wyvern]

For people that are higher up with Ark, how do you think it’s fairing against FPM

my main is a fpm and i am planning on getting ark to sf168 but idk which one i should keep going with

[cedar basin]

Why we comparing it to fpm?

[glad needle]

For rotation b which way does it rotate

[glad needle]

thank you

[vague palm]

hyper

[vestal wraith]

Yeah I think the survival becomes more apparent once the dmg is great than the HP potions

For lower SF maps you can just get higher tier potions and you will be alright but for higher end you can't do that, (I haven't got there) just speculations

[vestal wraith]

But im finally lv150 😎💪

Got so much AB time on ark and all my alts lol

[sullen totem]

Are you going to main it?

[frigid heron]

Any tips on getting past mulung 25 with their provided gear?

[cedar basin]

do people buy dream lunas XD

[glad needle]

Got my sf to 131 woo

Where’s the best map to make mesos with ark? 👀

[cedar basin]

[marsh sundial]

Is your loaded dice working?

[cedar basin]

Gotta try ahah

[cedar basin]

Doesn’t seem like loaded dice is working

[marsh sundial]

So not just me, all Ark loaded dice bugged

[static arrow]

Isit op yet 👀

[solemn prawn]

does levelling the v1 reduce the cooldown on it?

[cedar basin]

No it increases the time we get free spectre form

[solemn prawn]

looks like maxing it is the first priority i guess

[cedar basin]

Ye I’d say so

15 seconds free right now

[solemn prawn]

how many nodestones did it take you to reach that

[cedar basin]

1500

[solemn prawn]

oh thats pretty little

[cedar basin]

Ye it’s not to bad

[solemn prawn]

was still wondering if i have to buy more nodestones

[marsh sundial]

Actually, it does reduce the cool down @solemn prawn

Lv1 90cd lv30 60cd

[solemn prawn]

ah yes thanks cuz iirc the skill should be on a 60s cd timer if at lvl 30

[cedar basin]

Oh yes

[cedar basin]

45b?

[sullen totem]

@cedar basin what is GD score with 15m cap?

[final pulsar]

does anyone's Ark do the thing where it just keeps scooting closer to the monster during autobattle before attacking? And while it's scooting closer to the monster, the ark is in the hit window so I'm getting damaged. Not sure if it's a single skill or if it's something else

[vestal wraith]

Yes, long term

[cedar basin]

Messed up a bit for each but

[vestal wraith]

Yes we boiled it down to Abyssal charge and blissful restraint(specially this one due to the charge) up above you can find my preset that's aim to fix this issue

It's easy to test as well just make a wheel with an abyssal charge combo and another one with only blissful restraint(more apparent)

[sullen totem]

Were you able to cap the specter state spammable?

[cedar basin]

Tbh haven’t checked lol

[vestal wraith]

Took another one for the team

[vernal storm]

How is it

[vestal wraith]

This +10% is to the whole bar

When you enter it and it also triggers from pet by overfill(assuming that's possible)

Because it takes a few seconds before it starts consuming energy

[vernal storm]

Interesting

[vestal wraith]

Animation cancel + you can speed up energy regen by phasing in and our of forms

[vernal storm]

Sounds really good for endgame tbh

[vestal wraith]

I'm thinking this is mainly for manual play where fights are overextended, you can step to the side and quickly fill up your bar again

Or switch to flora for slight boost when you know your flora rotation is off cooldown

[vestal wraith]

Yeah

That's why I was went for it lol

4s full bar

Ok maybe 8 didn't notice it was half way full lol

[vestal wraith]

This one might be the Boss regen Go-to
The other one will be for AB

[deep saddle]

Sharing Ark’s V1 V2 Stats + V Matrix Nodes + Perfect Trios Recommendation with everyone~ (English Sub)

Also Auto Battle & Bossing Wheel + Hyper Skill Passive Recommendations~

Special thanks to Global’s very first Lv.200 Ark - 阿帕 for providing all the amazing info

https://youtu.be/EfPsLVegQTo

[solemn prawn]

did u extract all these other trios?

[marsh sundial]

@deep saddle is his loaded dice working properly?

[solemn prawn]

i also got a loaded dice problem

[deep saddle]

Nope it’s bugged

Not working for all the Lv.200 Arks

[marsh sundial]

Same across all Ark

[vernal storm]

Wow, whale Ark and can hardly clear 600m guild dummy.. this is with maxed nodes?

[vestal wraith]

@deep saddle Seems like Kmsm Ark is more buffed from the looks of it

[cedar basin]

they have an extra v skill in kmsm

and what stats are on kmsm ark

647m sounds ok

still only lvl 200 and cap is under 18m

yea ark v3 is a huge buff to specter

passively enhances dream-nightmare with more lines and has cd of 10sec which can be reduced per specter skill cast (you cast many-all while bossing. almost no cd)

New attempt

17.6m cap

wtf best class

v3 1b

My 170 hyper first messed up so missed it all basically

and no loaded dice

ez

20m+ cap

easy 1b+

ahah hell ya

prob 800+ easy if I didn’t miss the first 170 hyper and loaded dice

Sucks only get 2 attempts

New multi

[vernal storm]

Okay this makes a lot more sense

The best buccs can hardly reach 800m lmao so definitely better than bucc

[cedar basin]

bucc will get buff

[vernal storm]

I’m not so sure about that

[cedar basin]

hero will get buff

[fair bane]

Hero’s V3 will elevate them

[cedar basin]

idk think its ranked low in kmsm and bucc is also supposed to be good but is bad

hero v3 feels so good tho. feels really heavy and many lines in pc

[fair bane]

Kmsm as well

Whether how it translate over to Global we have to see

[cedar basin]

think hero like c tier or smth in kmsm

so the lines must be nerfed, but we'll see

[fair bane]

If I recall it’s was B Tier

[cedar basin]

why not S

[fair bane]

Alongside Paladin, Dark Knight and Demon Slayer haha

Even Adele is B Tier

But that being said

[cedar basin]

phantom randomly S tier in mobile i dont understand

[fair bane]

Kmsm is a different game compared to Global

[cedar basin]

adele lines looked nerfed as hell in mobile

[fair bane]

What is SS Tier here is B or C in Kmsm

Blaster is D Tier in Kmsm

[cedar basin]

true. do you know whats the difference exactly?

[cedar basin]

isnt that because of v3 though?

[potent maple]

So basically he is f tier in gmsm

[fair bane]

Based on charts you’re way off haha

[cedar basin]

are they mechanically diff games? like different calcs and stuff?

[fair bane]

Unless you’re talking about different types of blaster players

[potent maple]

But arent characters nerfed from kmsm to gmsm?

[fair bane]

Not all are nerfed version from Kmsm

There are some which are slightly better or same as their Kmsm counterparts

[cedar basin]

here was the image

[potent maple]

So I take it blaster didnt get nerfed?

[cedar basin]

wait demon avenger is A tier

LOL

mercedes gaming

[fair bane]

That’s why

Take that chart with a huge grain of salt

[cedar basin]

well most is in line with gmsm

thats also post-v3 so that could be the main reason

[potent maple]

Never trust ranking charts for maple

Cause you never know what is the criteria for the ranking and etc

We all have different criteria that we use to rank the characters in this game

[rough cairn]

Even with post V3, some of the classes on the chart doesn’t make any sense

Some of these classes V3 aren’t getting any attacks or burst who are in Tier S and A

[potent maple]

Imagine lumi in the lowest tier

Absolute blasphemy

[rough cairn]

Nice video

Congrats on your 4 set Absolab

https://youtu.be/_xPx1jDLy7w

When 1.1b

[rough cairn]

That’s not it

Blaster and Dawn Warrior are also in the same tier as Lumi too

Then again we don’t know what kind of conditions they used to create that tier chart

[potent maple]

To be honest I dont find blaster and dawn warrior to be very good based on my own ranking criteria

Both are very p2w characters

[rough cairn]

Agree

Prolly this chart might be a tier list for f2p players for all you know lmao

[potent maple]

Definitely no lmao

Ark is definitely not f2p

[rough cairn]

You can see that they purposely made Ark skill damage quite mediocre

Smth like a Thunder Breaker kind of skill dmg as a counter to their lines

[potent maple]

Not just his skill damage, his survivability hot garbage too

I just had an argument with another person about this

[rough cairn]

So prolly a lower mdc you will peak quite fast

[potent maple]

Saying that ark is best f2p character

[rough cairn]

But higher mdc the challenge of capping your lines might be really tough

[potent maple]

F2p will not be talking about capping lines bro

[rough cairn]

I mean this thread ain’t entirely f2p right?

[potent maple]

They just want to survive and find public parties for bossing

[potent maple]

Sadly true

[fair bane]

Haha thanks

[potent maple]

There are people that think that ds and mech are f2p characters

[fair bane]

Oh definitely not hahaha

[potent maple]

Lmao

[potent maple]

Tell it to them please

I dont want to name names

[fair bane]

If a f2p were to ask which demon class is better to play

I will say DA

[potent maple]

YES THIS

People that have been arguing with me take note

[fair bane]

DS as a f2p will struggle badly on the lack of fury resource

[vernal storm]

What if i were to ask which mage class is good for F2P

Besides Lumi

[fair bane]

Tbh, I will say Lumi

Oh you mentioned Lumi

I don’t really know

Evan isn’t really f2p friendly

Unlike last time

[vernal storm]

I just invested an ancient weapon into Evan… don’t say this lol

[fair bane]

But to answer your question

Next will be Evan haha

Cause I can’t really think of another Mage which is a good option for a f2p

Bishop while desired for everything requires an upkeep of pets

“Cash pets”

[potent maple]

Yes next best mage will be evan

In my opinion

Their burst and dps is insane post 200

[potent maple]

But bishop literally sucks like shit in terms of dps

[fair bane]

Their dps only comes after 200. But yes pre 200, they are seen more as a utility

[vernal storm]

As F2P we don’t have right to DPS lol

Is Pala still overpowered? I’m starting to see less palas now

[potent maple]

Our dps comes after level 200 with nodes and symbols

And of course our v1 and v2

[potent maple]

Of course

[vernal storm]

Guess it makes sense

Shadower is God tier F2P class

[potent maple]

Shadower definitely one of the best thieves

Phantom and db too

[vernal storm]

DB is god tier bossing

[cedar basin]

wdym fury resource?

the mana bar thing? xd

[fair bane]

DS dont use mana

Instead our resource is Fury

[cedar basin]

ye whys that hard for f2p

is it on killed mob or smth?

[fair bane]

Because the fury amount is very low to be substained pre lvl 170

[final pulsar]

sweet thanks for this man. I was doing testing last night with single skills and wasn't really sure and figured someone probably knows haha

[cedar basin]

Ye I did

[solemn prawn]

so i guess u will only be using insatiable hunger/unbridled chaos to maintain battle frenzy passive?

[cedar basin]

ye ye

[solemn prawn]

aite cool

[cedar basin]

Don’t forget also 170 hyper gives us max stacks of battle frenzy

[vernal storm]

The names of these skills are so sick

Unbridled chaos

[deep saddle]

We found out that the reason his score isn’t high is because his 4 Flora State Spell Bullets didn’t land on monsters, so he didn’t get the 4 60-sec Buffs

[glad needle]

Thanks! I just reached 133.

[vernal storm]

Oh that makes sense

[glad needle]

I’m getting 80k exp a kill at sf 133 god damn 😳

[sullen totem]

Nice progress

You should try to sf that helmet to 17+ no scrolls because you can repair it with the extra one you have

[deep saddle]

Got better scores now

[sullen totem]

Actually you should try to sf that extra one to 17 because it's unique pot, and you won't risk getting under 133sf total

[glad needle]

Oh my man that’s smart Ye good idea

[vestal wraith]

Be careful with that event weapon lol if it breaks you will need another (E) legendary

[carmine robin]

nah u just need another legendary

its been patched

[glad needle]

im leaving it as is

[vestal wraith]

Oh really? Then that's great

[carmine robin]

yup!

[glad needle]

ye thatas a w

[vestal wraith]

I'm still cautious lol

[glad needle]

who would wanna keep upgrading it tho

[vestal wraith]

Well you should have 3
Legendary, unique and epic event weapons

You can use the epic to make a unique and the unique to make a legendary, and fusing the two to get mythic

[sullen totem]

You should just lvl it to 25 and fuse it

Even if you get a briser it will help in the long run

[vestal wraith]

The only thing holding me back is mesos

[glad needle]

i only have that one idk what i did with the othr two

[glad needle]

like what minter is talking about?

[vestal wraith]

If you got scrolls I would use them to max SF that weapon

Then fuse, because getting a legendary is cheaper in TS than a mythic

[sullen totem]

Don't you lose 1 sf fusing?

Or is that just rank up

If so I wouldn't waste scrolls until it's mythic

[vestal wraith]

It's fusing

Either way its going down in SF lol

Unless you rank up

[pine girder]

oh my.. insane and so much more potential

[deep saddle]

Yeah he said he can get it higher for sure if played properly

[pine girder]

post 215 with both symbols and maxed nodes

1b+ easy

[deep saddle]

🐳

[pine girder]

excited to see more

[vestal wraith]

Excited to get there in a few months lol

[glad needle]

It broke 😭

[cedar basin]

u can transfer..

u dont need to sf both..

[glad needle]

Should I fuse it with my current one I’m wearing

[cedar basin]

it's not fuse

if you click forge, there's another option called transfer

all broken equipment can be transferred onto equipment with same name + rank

[glad needle]

I was upgrading the one in my incentory that way if the one I’m wearing were to break i could still train at 133 sf

[cedar basin]

there's no point tho

because u started from scratch

12-14 stars had a chance of boom

and tbh i would still use blue scrolls minimum, otherwise it could degrade and be annoying to get back up

green scrolls not needed if you have dupe though

[glad needle]

Ah okay

So should I fuse it since that was has better potential anyways

[cedar basin]

it's not fuse

it's transfer

fusing is another whole concept

[glad needle]

Ye

I mean transfer

[cedar basin]

but ye you can transfer. u lose 1 sf though

[glad needle]

Oh damn

Hmm

[cedar basin]

ur broken one is 13

ur good one is 14

[glad needle]

I should get one of my other items up one sf first so I can stay at 133

[cedar basin]

but now you have no way to abuse the dupes ("abuse dupe" by not needing shielding wards. only blue scrolls needed)

[glad needle]

Since it’s going down 1

[cedar basin]

r u training at sf133?

or 130

[glad needle]

Ye

133

Why do you ask

[cedar basin]

well if ur training 130 just lose the sf

but tbh..

just wait for another dupe lol

enhance l zak helm only if you have blue scrolls now + dupe or blue + green scrolls

only enhance to 18-20 whatever helps u hit sf144 or 160 or 168

[glad needle]

Okay cool sounds good

Is 144 god tier training or what

[cedar basin]

sf144 very good xp and lots of mesos

until sf168

[glad needle]

Ima try get there soon

[cedar basin]

u die a lot there though

need full mythic/leg on ark

ark squishy

[glad needle]

Ouuu yeah that’ll be tough

[cedar basin]

sf160 is for people making cdd alt which you could make this ark if you are not maining it (still train at sf144 i believe)

sf168 is slowly to push 200

then 180 and 194 depending on ur funds

[glad needle]

I’m moaning it for now it’s my furthest character

[cedar basin]

well it's not that high lvl yet

there are much better classes to survive sf144 than ark. like 1/3 of ark 144 funding

i got myth wep + myth outfit + 3 leg armors and still dying

[glad needle]

God damn 😭😭

Is that auto battle or manual

[cedar basin]

ab

[glad needle]

I feel like surviving is easier on manual

[cedar basin]

never manual lol

less mesos + why XD

[glad needle]

I did manual yesterday during hot hours and got mad exp

[cedar basin]

u might survive better. decent boss accessories

cpb one is like 6k health

[glad needle]

Cpb?

[cedar basin]

chaos pink bean mark

[glad needle]

Ye I got lucky with those

Cygnus is next

Jsut hit 160

[cedar basin]

anyways not too late to change main when you see difficulty of sf144 for new players XD

[glad needle]

LOL who knows I might just change

I deleted a character two days ago in case I wanted to

[cedar basin]

its insane... did not plan to spend ~1.2b to survive sf 144 bahahah

[glad needle]

1.2b god damn

[cedar basin]

stil dying maybe need 1.5-2b

[glad needle]

But hey what if they buff ark in the future which they probably will

[cedar basin]

at that point i might as well have bought ra top/bot

they will never buff his survivability

he is already op post-200

most classes survivability stay same and is not going to match pc

[glad needle]

Damn well I guess I’ll have to see the struggle when the time comes 😭

Hey question

[cedar basin]

make sure you run daily dungeons on thursday + saturday + sunday

ark needs yellow s jewel set asap. will help survive sf144

[glad needle]

Von bon and all the other bosses around that dungeon are always dead. When is it hot or how do I find people to do those?

I’ve been doing yellows for exp! I’ll keep N eye out for those

[cedar basin]

atm you prob wont find many

[cedar basin]

yellow s jewel set bonus is just 5 yellow s xp jewels

[cedar basin]

u wont find any. if u run it, it's a nice carry randomly helping

consistent runs is join a good guild when 180+ or 200+

[glad needle]

So you’re saying I gotta leave the guild I made in 2018 😭

[cedar basin]

just have an alt takeover?

i mean tons of content + free stuff are locked behind guild

[glad needle]

Lol Ye true

[cedar basin]

all endgame bosses need big parties so ye

[glad needle]

Hoping I get more boss equips from this extra dungeon run in an hour

[cedar basin]

do u have alts

[glad needle]

Ayo is hacking possible in msm? I swear to god I seen monsters getting vacked onto a character last night

Yeah I do

[cedar basin]

soem classes can vac monsters

blaster for example has a skill

[cedar basin]

start stacking up powders. gonna need a lot

how many alts

all your unique pieces are soon ready to be fused to legendary

[glad needle]

Max alts minus the one that’s registered to delete in five days

[cedar basin]

otherwise i dont see how u survive sf144

[cedar basin]

max alts?

so like 36 or something?

[glad needle]

LOL

wait let me check

[cedar basin]

they all 120 minimum?

[glad needle]

139 lumi 134 fire poison 125 sia 126 nightlord 122 demon slay 112 mercedes 87 bishop 83 dark knight

[cedar basin]

that not max but ye its a good amount for now

i'd fuse up ur unique pieces that are 18+ to legendary and pass around alts for upgrade

[glad needle]

ye

i have tons of powder in storage and mailbox storage

so wait so you mean fuse my shoulder and outfit tht are 18

i havent fused anything before not sure how it works really

[cedar basin]

how did u get those unique pieces then

[glad needle]

from alt transfering

[cedar basin]

o but like u either fused to those uniques or treasure box

i dont think theres any other way to get uniques

[glad needle]

i upgraded them from purple

[cedar basin]

rankedup? interestinggg

[glad needle]

got them to 15sf and then ranked it up

that way if it broke it would be cheaper to fix

[cedar basin]

did u use gold leaves

[glad needle]

nope

i do have 250,000 gold leafs on an alt tho

from when i first started playing

[cedar basin]

o dam save those

for emblem stuff

[glad needle]

idk what to do with all that tho

[cedar basin]

hmm not sure how u ranked it up, but yea hopefully didnt use gold leaves

anyways to fuse, just get another unique armor (any class + name) + level up to 20

and fuse with ur current lvl 20 unique gear

sf goes down by 1 and becomes random legendary outfit (of same class)

[glad needle]

Like this?

40m god damn ima need some paper

But don’t I want best in slot Armour?

[cedar basin]

no it doesnt matter until emblem gear

u basically want to rush 144 asap to get mesos fast asap

as f2p esp

otherwise anything below will never alow u to make reasonable improvements or buy emblems

thats why sometimes a more op class is easier

shadower, phantom

[glad needle]

ah okay

144 in no time ez watch

[cedar basin]

well u wont survive 144 with unique gear too

[glad needle]

Oh like this one I’m deleting 😂

[cedar basin]

yea i think shadower is cheapest to 144

even my pally dies full unique + myth wep 144

[glad needle]

Jesus

What’s your highest level character bro

[cedar basin]

182 but im making a lot of 144 + cdd alts first lol

cant decide on main yet smh

i just returned

[glad needle]

cdd?

[cedar basin]

once i decide main ill hit 200 fast

chaos daily dungeon

[glad needle]

ah okay\

[cedar basin]

for necro/inherit attempts

mythic -> ancient time

[glad needle]

Main the ark

the survivability is crazy good 😉

[cedar basin]

unsure abt this class lolll

[glad needle]

I like it

Hey should I fuse my weapon first? its already legendary but its (E)

brb ima roll a joint 😄

[cedar basin]

its not lvl 25

[glad needle]

ah forgot about that part

I might have enough dust tho

just no mesos

[cedar basin]

legendary to mythic is 60m

but yes its prio

[glad needle]

with just the stuff in my inventory i can get to level 21

60m would take a few days not too bad

[static arrow]

Please don’t chat about gear progression here lol

[true laurel]

bruh don't fuse 2 18 stars lol

just buy a fodder max unique on ts

[static arrow]

And it continues

If I’m ai I’d think ark grows from gear progression more than nodes

[true laurel]

What's there to learn about nodes. Max everything easy

Anyways, we probably have another few days before anyone really learns about Ark since the whales have just reach the point the class reaches it's potential

It's just a bad early/mid game class because it dies easily that's all lol

[static arrow]

Guess the channel is wrongly tagged then

Ark #msm-gear-forum

[true laurel]

No, it's correct.

You obviously found it

[static arrow]

About half of this chat is about gear > class itself

Soo

[true laurel]

because there's nothing about the class

why are you reading

ask if you want to know stuff

like everyone else

lmao

[static arrow]

Welp

[static arrow]

Man cancelling the class 💀

[true laurel]

yes, i'm cancelling because no one is fast enough to go on boss runs yet

so sad

[cedar basin]

Ye when you collect bullets and hold them, if you CC to any map or boss they dissapear

So if your planning on pre buffing

Collect the bullets

Stay on the map

Auto release them manually when your ready to enter the boss or content

Then go

And activate 150 hyper before releasing the bullets

for GD or GHB hold the 170 hyper until he follows you to corner, use v1 and spam ominous until he goes to corner then burst 170 and continue rotation you’ll stilll get 2 casts her GD or GHB do the same thing v1 ominous until crab is all the way to the left or right then set up and burst

[static arrow]

Oh finally some class related content

[static arrow]

Cant wait for your ark and lotus content to see the dpm

Should be sick

[cedar basin]

Tmr ark hopefully

[static arrow]

1 week newborn ark vs grandpa ark lesgo

[vestal wraith]

To be fair it is ark gear related and this is the hub for all ark activities

Some new player(like me) look here more than anywhere else because this is the only class I am interested in, including how to gear the class

This and game help if it's completely not related to ark

Plus so far we have shared almost everything there is to know about Ark pre-200 and V skills, scroll up

Now we're just waiting for max level players to get used to the class

Check the pin section

[frigid heron]

In case anyone is wondering, I have my ark on SF120 and did a small test on potion consumption. The AB wheel @mighty glen shared consumes 58 v5 pots/15mins compared to MSM Tips 80/min, so I'm using that. Your mileage may vary~

[potent maple]

You will ideally want your ark to stop french kissing the mobs

Some of his skills literally does that

[mighty glen]

I think that’s just gonna happen regardless, you’re better off having another damage to go on there and hoping they take out the mob in 1-3 hits

[potent maple]

Hmm

[mighty glen]

Randomly thinking of when we were talking about whether or not it’s better to use a skill that puts us into specter state or just put master corruption on your pet

More or less the same rates

[vernal storm]

I’ve had it on my pet

[mighty glen]

The second pic is with master corruption on pet with no skill to put you into specter state

So it’s only slightly better

[cedar basin]

whats the ab for second pic

maybe i can ab with my ark finally

i hope to leave it for 6 hours and dies in 38 minutes

o shit i ab-ed for 290min!

[mighty glen]

Some skills I always use

[cedar basin]

o lmao its right there mb

does without blissful have better survive?

[mighty glen]

I use creeping terror, it has more lines

[cedar basin]

how often does the pet switch between the states?

[mighty glen]

It waits till you have full meter

[glad needle]

took the words out of my mouth brotha

hows everyone doing tonight

[vestal wraith]

Yup I also transition as well and noticed more consistency

[vestal wraith]

But to use the consistency of the pets full bar, you need to not use blissful restraint or creeping terror so it doesn't lock by starting specter mode too early

[vestal wraith]

Chillen, finally figured out a good pricing formula that sells more frequently

For epics and uniques at least

[vernal storm]

I think keeping on pet makes it so that you only deal with the 20sec debuff and don’t enter specter mode with a half filled bar

[vestal wraith]

Yes exactly

[vernal storm]

That’s definitely better than eating the 20S debuff every time, even if you lose out on not doing those 2 attacks

[vagrant lark]

How many nodes roughly required to max a vskill?

[vernal storm]

I would say probably somewhere around 600?

[fair bane]

Average 800 to 900

Good rng might require at least 700

[vernal storm]

Damn i was way off

[potent maple]

Damn I have so much to learn after I hit level 200

[cedar basin]

Ye it’s interesting

I’m not convinced though with this skill

Doesn’t seem to re proc

so it’s a useless 30 sec buff for 3min CD

rather then stacking and adding 15 sec for each stack extra

[mighty glen]

Show us the V1 in action

[deep saddle]

The extra 21 lines every few seconds seems decent haha

[potent maple]

Easily one of the coolest v skill in game

[deep saddle]

Also right now, it seems to be harder for Ark’s skills to reach MDC, the extra CD stack seems nice

[cedar basin]

Does it work for yoy?

It doesn’t seem to stack and add more duration for me

Like the skill says

Would not be better to have 10% BA or 12% CD from decent skills for indefinitely vs a 30 second buff?

[deep saddle]

Good question cuz I didn’t see it either

Let me double check

[cedar basin]

Aight bet

[deep saddle]

Okay found it, my friend can get it stacked to 2

[cedar basin]

hmm so prob not worth then

[deep saddle]

Probably cuz the node lvl is too low and buff time is too short for it to stack on more

[cedar basin]

Oh maybe

[mighty glen]

Save nodes for v3

Extra boost to lines asap

[deep saddle]

72 ish lines incoming 👀

[mighty glen]

[cedar basin]

V3 is gonna make us broken

[mighty glen]

Sheeeeh, let them keep sleeping

[deep saddle]

Might need to lvl it up much higher to get the 5 stacks

But the 21 lines are nice

[vernal storm]

That’s a sick animation

[cedar basin]

Little update

Testing some prs tonight

[tender sorrel]

can i see yalls skill wheel?

[vernal storm]

Nuts

[sullen totem]

Is anyone else guarding a shitload of attacks from SF mobs?

What stat is that? I have no block chance on my stat page

[glad needle]

What do I increase after Battle arts and spectre state boys

[glad needle]

God damn

[deep saddle]

Carry plz🛐

[mighty glen]

That’s it you only get five points

[glad needle]

Wdym I only used two days I got one here

[final pulsar]

this video is so informative. Thank you!

[deep saddle]

No problem!! Glad it helped

[cedar basin]

Little better, still messed up

[vagrant lark]

thank you!

[vernal storm]

What are your thoughts, is this a decent GD score? Where does it rank

[vocal hollow]

daaaang!

[vernal storm]

V3 is that periodic attack that pops out while spamming endless nightmare right?

[mighty glen]

yes

[vernal storm]

That's nuts, 72 lines for that? The cooldown on that skill isn't even that long

It's like a 10 second or less cooldown if I remember correctly?

[mighty glen]

starts at 10, can be less when using other skills in Specter state, idk if that last part translated to mobile

[broken verge]

What the hell is this monster?!

[light cove]

The pride of ark 😍

[deep saddle]

Cooldown is 4 seconds since level 1

So it’s 72 lines every 4 secs for KMSM

Here’s a small clip from my YT video that showcases it:

[mighty glen]

if its 4 sec on gmsm thats gg for other pirates

[glad needle]

What do you guys think I should work on next? I need direction like a lost puppy. I do have 60m 👊🏾

[light cove]

No wonder people labeled ark as the strongest pirate. Wtf those lines

[true laurel]

Are there any additional stuff in KMSM that has ignore defense ?

[deep saddle]

A lot of V skills do

[true laurel]

Ah, so they probably won't add it yet

Unless they introduce it together with V3 for us

[deep saddle]

Yeah sad😭 we don’t have any

[true laurel]

Just last week someone in my guild asked why he was doing less than his 19m cap in ark

Bro didn't realised about defense rate the whole time

[deep saddle]

Oh Lmaoo haha

[true laurel]

Is it at least flat addition in kmsm ?

I hated how PC did some weird percentage scaling nonsense lol

[deep saddle]

I have to check on that

[vocal hollow]

did anyone already figure out what the recommended equips in order to survive sf144?

[cedar basin]

myth wep + myth outfit + rest legendary

[vocal hollow]

Thank you!

[cedar basin]

maybe one unique is okay. wep and fit need to max lvl at least

im dying with max myth wep + myth lvl 16 outfit + lvl 1-7 legendaries + 2 uniques lvl 20

[vocal hollow]

I am going to work my way up to mythic now. im still in my uniques at sf120

[cedar basin]

yea not a class that can survive with minimum gears

high funding cost

[vocal hollow]

its okay. If im going to spend something, might as well spend on a class I enjoy playing with

[fair bane]

If not wrong, Ark's V3 is similar to Shade's V3

Shade's V3 is also a passive proc skill that cast every few seconds just like Ark when spamming spirit claw haha

Kmsm hit count for their V3 is ard 54 or 56 lines

[fair bane]

But players must remember that Shade dmg output is very consistent when V3 hits with a huge spike still coming from split whereas that 72 lines proc is dependent on Specter state. In a long run, it not neccessarily Ark > Pirates

[mighty glen]

I see

[solemn prawn]

has anyone reported on the loaded dice bug for ark yet?

[static arrow]

Ma man pr gonna fly

[cedar basin]

[vocal hollow]

what is good about dream express?

[static arrow]

Free transfer m label/pet and more within account

[vocal hollow]

oh sad for me who doesnt have anything to transfer 😦

[static arrow]

There’s always chair/mount for us f2p

[cedar basin]

V update

[sullen totem]

I don't look forward to maxing those v skills

Hopefully they put exp nodes in gapple

[cedar basin]

Skill uptime 38.5 seconds at lvl 17. It’s literally impossible to get 5 stacks of that buff on conversion over drive for the mana consumption is requires us to use to even get 1 stack.

@deep saddle if need a reference. I lvled it to 17

[cedar basin]

Loaded dice being fixed I believe in patch in 30min

[marsh sundial]

Yup finally

Fix an issue where ‘Luck of the Die’ skill is not obtained when ‘Loaded Dice’ skill node is equipped.

[solemn prawn]

I guess only i reported the issue lol

[deep saddle]

Dammmm really

[deep saddle]

I see my KMSM friend can get it to 5 stacks pretty fast, his is lvl30

Maybe the mana consumption is different for Global?

[cedar basin]

Ye idk

I can’t stack mine for shit lol

[marsh sundial]

What are you saying, you even show the difference of this skill in your video, the rates are identical

[deep saddle]

It stacks when 10% of MP is consumed, yes I showed the comparison of V skills but I didn’t show the other skills, that’s why I’m wondering

[marsh sundial]

I see

Well, they have added the icon luck of the die, but it still doesn’t work

[deep saddle]

How much MP do you consume at lv17?

[marsh sundial]

Nvm it’s working now

[cedar basin]

I’d have to double check but I can never get this thing past 2 stacks

Rip loaded dice still doesn’t work

[marsh sundial]

Working for me now , gotta wait a bit

[cedar basin]

How long

[marsh sundial]

5mins for me, mine is working already

[vernal storm]

For those who have hit 200, what are your opinions on V1 V2

V3 is looking insane

[static arrow]

Needed the info for buc thread? Lul

Since you made it clear you’re gonna stop at 170

[vernal storm]

Not sure yet, will probably decide based on how much I like it after the 170 skill lol

[static arrow]

Tbh it doesn’t matter unless you’re gonna main it

After 200 there’s so much aid from arcane force to survive better

It only matters if you’re gonna max the v skill which I doubt your main have max node?

Because it’s one of those v skill that has extra effect other than improving skill dmg itself

So maxing it makes bigger diff than those with only sd%+

[vernal storm]

Interesting

I guess I'll revisit this once I have more funding

[potent maple]

It is all about the funding

No money no honey

[static arrow]

Lol I can’t even find back the v1 per level difference with all that gear advice

[light cove]

can we pass ark's event effect background to another char with this?😳

[vernal storm]

Really hope so tbh

I want to pass around so many styles honestly

Mix and matching

[light cove]

fr, that ark's effect is dope asf

the last time i saw such epic design was from pathfinder's one but that was so long ago

[cedar basin]

Is roll the dice not suppose to work immediately? I ain’t getting the buff

[pine girder]

You have to roll the dice

After you pick it

To get the buff

Luck of the die to select the number

Then roll the dice

And it’ll give u that number

[marsh sundial]

Did you put it on pet for auto buff

[cedar basin]

Nah

Do I need to?

[neon knoll]

yeah luck of the die should be on pet to refresh it

[marsh sundial]

Yea, it’s a buff.

[cedar basin]

Oh shit I got it perfect

New self buff stats, missing 3/3 from Blair, chu chu symbol and 2 lines on flame, 6/6 boss set

[cedar basin]

Didn’t mess up this time lol just bish buff 50’s, self buffs and missing 30% ba still and 10% phy dmg, 6/6 boss set, more matrix slots, 18m cap

Single target with minor mess up

[vestal wraith]

Finally got the 50M

[vestal wraith]

[fair bane]

Not bad, the gd score is just slightly lesser than a DS with 19m+ cap

If going by 1st impression, Blaster is definetly alot much stronger vs Ark at a similar cap to yours @cedar basin

[keen star]

Whats the score for that?

[fair bane]

852m

[keen star]

Blaster is broken af

They literally have zero downtime

[static arrow]

was gonna ask this

[keen star]

Its already kinda unfair to compare a class with no state changes flora to specter

But i think you mentioned Blaster because the class like Ark are 1b+ gd classes

[cedar basin]

Ye if we’re comparing blaster to ark there kinda similar

Ark mainly shines v3

It’s almost an additional 1000 lines a minute

[fair bane]

1,080 lines (15 x 72 lines)

60 secs / 4 = 15 procs for 72 lines

[keen star]

Demon Slayer also has a very broken passive no?

Smth about monsters when in binded state

[fair bane]

I think you meant this

[keen star]

Yeah that

How does that work

[static arrow]

what's the shortest flora state ark can achieve with maxing every skill related to prolonging spectre state?

[fair bane]

5 secs bind state,

Lets say a DS does 200 lines within 5 secs of bind state.

That passive gives us additional 200 lines of 10% add dmg lines

[keen star]

So instead of 200 lines in that 5 secs, its 200 + 200 of 10% lines meaning 400 lines?

[fair bane]

Yeah

Its not really broken as its used once every 65 secs

Just that in order to maximise this passive, you will need to have all your V Skills up and ready and bind right after your V Skills are cast

[cedar basin]

Ye lol broken

[keen star]

Only in Specter state no?

[cedar basin]

Your in spectre like 80% of time

if you manage it properly

[keen star]

So its player skill as well

[cedar basin]

ye

3 min ark run I didn’t get out almost once really

[keen star]

I'm kinda interested to see how Ark performs in bossing

[cedar basin]

just to Re buff

[keen star]

Gd is easy to inflate numbers

Since that boss has zero def and zero resistance

[cedar basin]

Gd is quite accurate for most part

[keen star]

It is

[cedar basin]

my paladin with 19m cap was doing 900m GD

[keen star]

Only if the player can do the same cap everything in bosses

[cedar basin]

and 1-2 spot in bossing

ye

[keen star]

Paladin best hammer class

[cedar basin]

also easier in bossing though cause of class debuffers which you don’t get in GD so

[keen star]

You dont need debuffing in gd

[cedar basin]

that’s my point

It’s the same

Cause of bossing debuffers

[keen star]

Gotcha

[cedar basin]

shade, echo, Evan, threaten CD dmg increase

WH

Etc etc

on top of all class buffs

And not having to find pre buff parties etc

[keen star]

Prebuff parties does inflate dmg alot

Provided if you have that

[cedar basin]

it’s a descent amount ya but not breaking

[keen star]

Ngl since Rubedo is here

[cedar basin]

especially if your class has high skill dmg

[keen star]

Whats your take about DS vs Pally

@fair bane

[cedar basin]

not even close

Lol

pally destroys DS

[fair bane]

Hmm

After 90 secs, we catch up

Mainly due to our Blue Blood

Paladin is very dependent on their Echo

[cedar basin]

I mean a 19m cap pally vs 19m cap DS, DS won’t catch up much

Before echo is back up

if we’re comparing you to a 19m pally then ya

[keen star]

But why are you so confident DS can still catch up?

[fair bane]

Our Snake

Its ridiculously bursty

[cedar basin]

v3 though it’s a wrap pally broken even more

[fair bane]

On pc is just a flashy dot skill

[fair bane]

Yeah the Grand Cross skill

[cedar basin]

ye is nuts

might get some nerfs though tbh

since they way to strong atm

[fair bane]

I dont think they should nerf

Just leave it as that

And buff the rest

[cedar basin]

Ye or that

sadly they just don’t listen

the buffs are so minimal and classes like BAM still left out

[fair bane]

Haha i hear you. Even DS Demon Awakening took almost a year before it become usable

[cedar basin]

Ye lol

[fair bane]

Prior to that, we had to dependent on our 4th job

[cedar basin]

it’s nuts ahah

[fair bane]

Really shows the Devs dont know the classes 😂

Sorry "Rebalancing Team"

[potent maple]

Basically ds pre 200 suck ass

Da pre 200 is a lot better especially during ab

[keen star]

Isnt their V3 like 700 smth lines

Its a burst skill but it aint as much as say a DK's V3

Heard their burst is like 1.4K lines or smth

OP af

The impt qn is whether does Pally's V3 work alongside Echo

[tame flume]

Auto Battle Presets?

also what are the required quests

that we have to do

ik the early quests give you an extra skill

[static arrow]

I think it Auto Unlock by achieving level according to description

Check pin for presets

[upbeat lichen]

This is the best solution!

[vagrant lark]

any recommendation on lvl 161's hyper skill passive?

i have added specter state - extra healing and battle arts reinforce

[vernal storm]

Specter state reinforce

The +10% final damage one

[stark crypt]

hi quick question; is Demon Awakening worth using at like level 6 or only when it is maxed out?

[fair bane]

Its worth using at your current lvl

Demon Awakening has more hit counts add-on with 20% boss attack and 15% crit rate buffs bonus is superior than using Demon Impact

[stark crypt]

even over max lvl Demon Impact?

[fair bane]

My question to you,
What is your boost nodes lvl for Demon Impact and Demon Lash?

[stark crypt]

lets just say 60 @fair bane

[fair bane]

Then its a no brainer, Demon Awakening

Just to check, Demon Awakening skill dmg at lvl 1 starts at 220%?

This time round the skill damage was reduced by 10%, so i'm not sure how much did the scaling changed from lvl 1 and per lvl increment

[tame flume]

how come these wheels have 0 buff skills equipped

[mighty glen]

?

Idk what you mean by that

Buffs in general cannot be used during ab if it’s in a wheel

Gotta use pets

[vagrant lark]

thank you sir!

[vestal wraith]

Beat all the high lvl alts at dmg lol 😂

[vestal wraith]

Pets mandatory with Ark 😆

[vestal wraith]

i went with the +20%crit dmg to all of arks 1st-4th
since im still leveling and i will be for quite a while, it helps on both states vs just specter, at lv171 i will get the final dmg on specter state

[vestal wraith]

its not hard to get a preset done tho, so if you need one with buffs just ask ^^

[vagrant lark]

oh that make sense too ! thanks for the input!

[quartz hollow]

hey im new to hyper stats and skills, how many points and what skills should i invest in for ark? ty!

[vernal storm]

First hyper in battle arts - reinforce or specter state healing

[vestal wraith]

For hyperstats, don't spend money on it until your gear is mythic+
You will get more stats from upgrading your weapon and gear, plus it takes like 2Billion to max a single hyperstat so you will need to be higher SF to have that constant farm

[cedar basin]

New pr

[brazen lance]

vidyooo

[mighty glen]

@cedar basin is there a Vengeful hate node?, and if you dont mind sharing the possible boost nodes that can be crafted.

[solemn prawn]

vengeful hate is a shared node with impending death

[mighty glen]

oooh ty

[deep saddle]

My latest Ark video shows all the boost nodes Ark can make, it shows each one in detail, starting at 3:22~ (English sub)

https://youtu.be/EfPsLVegQTo

[mighty glen]

Ty lol

[deep saddle]

Anytime!

[vernal storm]

When Dawn Warrior remaster video

[deep saddle]

This weekend, editing takes time

[cedar basin]

I do some testing tmr

[solemn prawn]

Whats your cap now btw

[cedar basin]

No boss set yet and need couple more v matrix slots for decent skills

[solemn prawn]

Oh what looks like my ghb can improve more

[cedar basin]

What’s ur stats and ghb?

[solemn prawn]

I just ran first time w full buffs ytd and did 300b

My cap currently is at 19m

[cedar basin]

Oh okay okay

[vestal wraith]

Show us your gear, slot by slot, lowkey want to read all the fine print because that dmg you doing is nuts lol

[pine girder]

Omg you got the hat!! Poggers

[tender sorrel]

What is that thing above the fever button

[vernal storm]

Soul gauge

[tender sorrel]

how do u get that?

[vernal storm]

Use soul enchanter on weapon

[tender sorrel]

ahh

im out on luck on that

[vestal wraith]

yeah gives like 200atk at max souls

[tender sorrel]

Howd u dealt that much dmg? @vestal wraith

[cedar basin]

anyone else find 170 hyper clunky to use? And having to pre charge and pre cast spell bullets for buffs before entering GHB or GD or bosses

[sullen totem]

Yes, and dying during a boss run will be agonizing

Nvm, forgot about buff freezers

[cedar basin]

Ye still annoying though the spell bullets don’t stay charged

if you pre charge them before entering room

[vernal storm]

Yeah, it was pretty disappointing too

[cedar basin]

Ye it’s a bit tilting

[drowsy trout]

mind sharing your bossing and ab wheel?

[vestal wraith]

It seems his AOE skills are just poorly designed for autobattle

[gentle wyvern]

where is ark falling in the tier list now?

[solemn prawn]

Minimally tier 2 at endgame

[tender sorrel]

They needa buff him

His flora form kinda weak

Well that's for me

[mighty glen]

thats the tradeoff for Specter state, the downtime in Flora anit that long

you get so much dmg in specter state that it would probably be super op if it was like that in Flora form as well

[potent maple]

Then why cant it be super op?

[mighty glen]

cuz pirates are like the 5th child

not even 3rd

[potent maple]

Like ark beginning to look a lot like cannoneer now for real

It was popular in the beginning, but now becoming more dead than the cemetery

[mighty glen]

nah i dont think CN would be able to survive like Ark

[potent maple]

Yea that I agree

But they are somewhat on the same tier I guess

If ark didnt have his spectre form, then yes he will truly be like cannoneer

😂

[mighty glen]

ehh idk, that like when people say "if it was just specter form the class would be op'

[potent maple]

Well they not wrong to be fair

We should really push for ark to have 100% spectre form all the time

It will be more 'f2p' friendly if that is the case

[mighty glen]

i hate to say it but that would just be a waste of time, if PC doesnt do it, we wont get it

[potent maple]

Yea you right

Maybe I just cannot accept the facts

Then maybe we should push for life steal on ark instead then

[mighty glen]

that might be possible

[vernal storm]

Ark definitely needs life steal

as it is it doesn't make sense to have a class that HP in some of it's skills and can't recover HP

[tender sorrel]

Or like a skill that can recover some of his spectre?

Like speed up its recovery

[potent maple]

Recovery is something that ark desperately needs

[tender sorrel]

Yeah

Specially when it's depleted it's takes awhile for the gauge to go up

[cold mantle]

You right but maybe just increase the attack range for the flora form skills, and a life steal skill would be nice

[solemn prawn]

Anyone know where the questline starts for changing of stat on this skill?

[cold mantle]

At the end u can see that there is an "or reaching level 60" and I guess that you already reach that level

[vernal storm]

You have the skill already

[solemn prawn]

Was looking to see if anyone could change the stat obtain cuz mine is stuck on exp to clarify LOL

[cedar basin]

think its random

[flint hornet]

Anyone got a good AB wheel that doesn’t stutter step and make my ark have to go up under a target to attack?

[vernal storm]

Stop using abyssal charge drive

Only solution

[cedar basin]

Little update

[cold mantle]

Someone knows how kmsm tier list look like?

[deep saddle]

From what I heard, the person who does the KMSM tier list rankings no longer does them anymore, he got mad

[tender sorrel]

lmao

[regal rapids]

Should be easier than gmsm, given they have ranking system available for people to see. Someone just needs a kmsm acc

[cold mantle]

You have the last one that he made?

[deep saddle]

The last one I saw:

[rough cairn]

He got mad?

How the heck is Blaster on Tier D?????? Lmao how is Aran slightly better than Blaster post V3

[cold mantle]

Thanks

[light cove]

wow db is not s

[upbeat lichen]

This is a v3 tier list comparing only v3

Somehow kinesis is always in D lmao. Be it geminis’ list or v3 list.

[rough cairn]

Alot of stuff on the Tier list doesn't make any sense

How the heck is DA better than Paladin, NL, Adele, Evan and even DS post V3?????

Likewise there is no fucking way im gonna believe that Aran V3 is better than all those classes in Tier D

Imma assuming the left side on the tier row is supposed to be the best of the classes inside that respective Tier list