Shade

[raven glacier]

We’ll see tomorrow

Either way super excited tbh

[raven karma]

Take in consideration your probably taking screenshot of the lv.30 hexa

And comparing to yours

[raven karma]

Gonna compare 30 sec burst today and tomorrow in chaos lucid. Should be a good way to see the burst instead of fog

[junior wharf]

i think losing some lines on SC makess sense cause we actually have attack booster now

[raven karma]

Most likely, we will see tomorrow how it feels. Plus getting tornado will help overall damage

10% phy dmg reduction from pull skill

[raven glacier]

Do any of the pros know which trios we need or is just same as GMS ones?

Bomb punch probably still useless so seems like a waste for nodes

[dense osprey]

Will there be a bundle for shade skin releasing soon?

[raven karma]

Kmsm guys also have spirit trap

But this looks accurate

[raven karma]

Yes, if you mean the skins for Aran, Evan, shade it’ll come tomorrow

@junior wharf what’s your thoughts on Origin? If they remove the buff and turn it into a 8 sec burst

[junior wharf]

i honestly perfer it to be 8secs. this is just my take, but my 30sec buff always goes to waste in a lot of these bosses.

for example cwill, clucid. the only time i got some use out of it was darknell

plus im always just in the moment of the fight that im forgetful when recasting spirit frenzy during the buff

survivability went up a lot. 2 more iframes now instead of just 1.

at least thats what the description of SI and smashing bombpunch say.

[raven karma]

I really hope this is the case, since the lv.170 hyper barely iframes. Just the gloom balls and the earlier bosses up til Damian

If we get 10sec iframe from it. That’d be huge qol

[knotty ore]

Do I make another shade if I already have a shade?

[devout escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-movie-ken-sunglasses-putting-on-sunglasses-double-sunglasses-gif-9645729363424884768

you can never have enuf shades

[raven glacier]

I think yes just for the legion

As a shade main I wish we could keep this logo forever lmao

[lost cobalt]

what's that heart grown fonder usage ?

[soft orchid]

Noob question: Now that it has been remaster, but hyper passive still the same?

Since it reset the hyper passive

[raven glacier]

Hyper passives

Think still the same

[raven karma]

Yup

I only did a quick Clucid test before going to work. Couldn’t feel the new burst

Oh, some of the new buffs wasn’t on. I’ll do later and see

[shy kayak]

Loooks like shade’s farming got a lot better

From 8.8k mobs an hour
Now 11.8k mobs an hour

Big W

[raven karma]

🔥 🔥

Spirit gate, tornado and sc?

Origin and Will skill

[lost cobalt]

not really though

[junior crypt]

fox - spirit reinforce right?

[raven karma]

Big improvement for me aswell, before I had at 7k

[cobalt roost]

shade farming is good now

W

[lost cobalt]

is the shielding spirit ward still need pet equip it ?

[shy kayak]

What?

[lost cobalt]

seems like it won't give back the 3 charges without re-activate

[torn ember]

✨ Shade image has been remastered!

Check out the update details here 👇

📜 05.20/21 Patch Notes Pt.1 (Aran and Shade Remastered, Boss Content Improvements, Emblem Improvements)
READ: https://forum.nexon.com/MapleStoryMGlobal/board_view?board=2690&thread=3448821

📜 05.20/21 Patch Notes Pt.2 (Aran and Shade Growth Support Event, M4U Boss Invitation Part 2, Boss Style Season 2)
READ: https://forum.nexon.com/MapleStoryMGlobal/board_view?board=2690&thread=3448834

[raven karma]

I’m lazy so I do it

Big increase

[junior wharf]

I made edits to pinned message

[shy kayak]

Should be more if spf20

But yeah 11.8k an hour is absurd

[raven karma]

Remove dot skill, I forgot to add the 🦊

Should probably up it too

Can anyone confirm dps on bossing?

[shy kayak]

Which one is the dot

[shy kayak]

I’m I doing something wrong

Origin 5.4k lines only

[raven glacier]

Before and after revamp I can now solo multi ark. And haven’t figured out the skill rotation yet, but overall it’s big buff imo

Was doing 2.2b on the guild clock thing and now 3b’ish

Haven’t fixed my nodes yet either

Feels gud ? Some big shades saying nerf somehow apparently? Idk

[shy kayak]

No way its a nerf, maybe they are not big enuf

[raven glacier]

Yea you gotta have the skills set up really wrong to think it’s a nerf

[cobalt roost]

new shade is really nice

[raven glacier]

Love the visuals

[cobalt roost]

yeah

dude

i think i like shade man

he's cool

compared to aran

[hearty egret]

did yall change something already to your boss/farm skill wheel??

I get so lost in the new skill pics lol

[raven glacier]

I’m using this rn

I feel like something’s off

But the big shades will probably share the most optimal one soon

[hearty egret]

I also feel something is off with spirit claw

just turned lvl250 and was killing mobs instantly in sacred but now not anymore?? sometimes it takes 2

[shy kayak]

Bro dont do that

Use this

Most optimal

11.8k monsters man

[raven glacier]

That’s for bossing

[raven glacier]

This is for bossing?

[shy kayak]

Oh its for mobbin

[raven glacier]

For mobbing I literally only use this lol

Someone here once tested if skills like incarnation was worth it while mobbing and it turned out it wasn’t iirc

[hearty egret]

why do you have death mark on there

[raven karma]

They buffed our speed, so that’s nice

[raven glacier]

Markus we need your expertise to figure out the most optimal skill wheel and bossing rotation

[raven karma]

I use what kmsm shades are using. Best to ask @junior wharf @west cave once they figure out what burst rotation works best

I’m at work, so can’t test bossing til tonight to see what works best for me

[raven glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_C01xF0XcA

Maybe copy this guy

[wispy quiver]

So spirit claw for farming?

[raven karma]

Always

[wispy quiver]

Bomb punch useless?

[raven glacier]

Watched in slowmo, he’s using this. (Except for 2 skills because I don’t have them), he has no death mark and no imp blade for some reason

[wispy quiver]

That skill is so slow

[normal cobalt]

Is spirit claw, Spirit incarnation and fox spirit still the main trio? Is it necessary to put split and frenzy in the 2nd trio?

[hearty egret]

guess I’ll wait for yalls expertise a bit hahaha

[hearty egret]

the 5th pic for farming? no spirit claw?

[west cave]

That’s second page of the bossing set

This is for farming

[raven glacier]

I can barely keep it together when I use 1 page tbh lol

[west cave]

Second page I use stunt only

[raven karma]

@west cave They bugged our Vskills

From 274% to 230% after patch

[west cave]

They made the skill faster sir

[raven karma]

Oh, didn’t notice

Heard from Chinese community Shade is bugged

[normal cobalt]

I think shade's remaster is hella better than Aran's

[shy kayak]

Shade’s visual is probs in the top 10s now haha

I’m lovin it way too much

[raven karma]

I think Shade before remaster already had solid visuals

[shy kayak]

Can’t wait till tonight when i’m off work to try take down clucid

[shy kayak]

I think its the additional summon skills that makes it visually appealing

B4 there arent mcuh summon skills

[raven karma]

Id say our burst got a lot better. I’m stuck in the woods, so lagging a ton

Just need more points into Hexa spirit claw now to balance the character out again

[frosty sapphire]

Why i feel they nerf the shades so hard, v6 reduced from 7,900 lines to 5,500

[shy kayak]

Whats ur cap and ied?

[raven karma]

235m, 49.9% ied

[raven karma]

Because it’s a 8 sec burst now instead of a 30 sec origin. Before you got the lines from spirit claw during the v6 buff

[dire raptor]

And the balls

[proven steppe]

can anyone share trios please?

[cobalt roost]

Yeah

[soft orchid]

Frankly speaking - would you guys create another Shade for the event?

[proven steppe]

yea for legion

[raven glacier]

Yea def for legion

Free 220 level char

[dire raptor]

Spirit claw
Spirit incarnation
Fox spirit
Spirit frenzy

[urban spruce]

may i ask for the trios pls 🙂

[raven glacier]

I think this top trio

Then again

The bottom one except for bomb punch also gud

[shy kayak]

Spirit incarnation now gives iframe is 🔥

[shy kayak]

Woah ur ied so high

[raven karma]

Could be better 😂

I’m waiting on item transfer event. My gear is meh

[soft orchid]

Looks like the previous trio with bomb punch doesn’t work/useless now, considering back then used to have Spirit Flow that helps to auto-attack with bomb punch

[gilded pivot]

Someone can share the trios plz

[nocturne junco]

Y’all realise you need to level up your core hexa to be stronger right

You shouldn’t compare the hexa sdmg% to your 4th job

[real atlas]

hi, these are the perfect trio nodes?

[raven karma]

Mine is lv.14

[west cave]

Trio and Hexa pages

[devout escarp]

dam so much i frames

[shy kayak]

Lvl 25 origin, this guy is on steroids!

[raven glacier]

AJ the goat

Pin all these messages please

[keen zinc]

Reached lvl 200 within 2 hrs, what to do now to reach lvl 250

[shy kayak]

Wait

[keen zinc]

[raven karma]

220*

[dire raptor]

The iframe abit useless cause we need to deal dmg with the skill 😱 cant save for the correct timing except giving up some dmg

[wispy quiver]

Been following this , spirit frenzy seems useless too

U do damage if you die and revive

[raven karma]

Nah, it’s perfect. Your not losing a lot of dps by not using SI

10 sec iframe and you can dps 🚀

I think every shade player is very thankful that we finally got iframes outside of freuds

[vestal narwhal]

Ive rejoined msm 2 weeks ago and got adele as my current main (lvl 206). Havent invested much and thinking about switching to shade rn. What are your opinions?

[junior wharf]

farming is a lot better

[raven karma]

Adele and shade is similar in effects and playstyle

You could try Aran too since you can burn both

[junior wharf]

@raven karma how goes your testing?

[raven karma]

Still not off work, modern slavery

[high junco]

What skill should i use for this alt to 200?

[raven karma]

Scroll up. Just use SC

[high junco]

currently only using spirit claw at level 150

Thanks!

[raven karma]

I’m not sure if BP is worth to do

In 2019 when shade came it was a valid choice

[high junco]

spirit claw seems to be the fastest

[junior wharf]

with "attack speed buff now" on paper it should be fine. but I still havent really felt the difference

[junior wharf]

🙁

[hearty egret]

whats your farming wheel?

[raven karma]

For me I have to wait for item transfer event to send over weapon and get spirit claw to lv.20+

Think the reduce in skill dmg, didn’t buff sc

[junior wharf]

i didnt think it was that low

[raven karma]

Before remaster it was 276% now 230%

[junior wharf]

mmm. i should've looked at a shade pre 250 to see what it was at

on patch note it says 240%

[junior wharf]

preset 2 is frenzy and will skill node

[high junco]

Which hyperpassives should I get for my ALT shade?

[junior wharf]

depends. does it boss?

[high junco]

no gear. alt to 220 and forget it. Maybe SF160 CCD alt in the future

[junior wharf]

then it would be 1/3/7/8/9

[high junco]

Thank you

[junior wharf]

[nocturne junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUxJmN1JTd8

dont know if this has been shared here, but Shade looks insane

[junior wharf]

they got a bit more stronger later. I assume we still havent gotten those changes yet. so according to @raven karma those are still in the pipeline

[wide epoch]

Someone can share combo burst shade after update, pls

[junior wharf]

i said pre 250 so we know what the base was. with us being 250+ and leveled hexa SC. i dont even remember what it was

[raven karma]

Let me see if I ss it

[raven karma]

Can’t find but 240% seems reasonable. If we get 3% each level up

On my SS lv.10 was 270%

[junior wharf]

but clealy something is wrong cause its below what its in patch notes

or am i crazy?

[raven karma]

Nope, I think it’s bugged and Chinese community claims it too

[junior wharf]

this is the best i could do

with BR of course

[soft orchid]

Just curious, i’m not level 250 yet, but i notice Spirit Claw and True Spirit Claw damages no longer at the top tier damage level already. Am i right?

I used to be able to do around 2,000,000,000 but now it dropped to 1,500,000,000 🤔

[keen zinc]

Post patch in terms of upgrade priority is it still V1 > V3 > V2 > V4 ?

[raven karma]

Crazy damage My max before was 382k, so I have that as my marker

[junior wharf]

my previous was like 814k before remaster. post remaster without BR was about 894k

[soft orchid]

I’m surprised that the damage seems to be weaken for Spirit Claw, or is it just weak all along? 😅 Because i notice True Arachnid Reflection causes higher damage 🧐

[raven glacier]

I went from 2b to 3.2b
Must be doing something wrong

[soft orchid]

Agree, i wonder what did i do wrong 😓

[raven glacier]

I just copied AJ’s setup

He shared it few msgs up

[soft orchid]

Let me check it out, thank you sir

[west cave]

My mobing got better using incarceration also

[frosty sapphire]

🫠

[raven karma]

Maybe worth the shot to add it

[west cave]

I did

[frosty sapphire]

12,607 for hour

I dont use SI on farm

[fading pagoda]

hi for farming / boss what skill do i need to put for below 200

[dusty shell]

I have main shade looking for the best setup/presets , can u guys (main shade) share ?

Also what hyper u suggest?

[serene aspen]

Can you show P3 AJ

[serene aspen]

Scroll up AJ, he have shared

[dusty shell]

How to u play without back jump?

[serene aspen]

This for mobbing

[dusty shell]

Oh

[serene aspen]

Here for boss

[torpid fern]

Released in 2023 ._.

[wispy quiver]

So we all following AJ now?

Can get a pin

[full brook]

Can you share the V job trios and 4th job hyer skill points assignment please?

[west cave]

@frosty sapphire what’s your mobbing skill wheel ? Share a pic plz

[west cave]

You don’t need to follow me .. am just sharing what am comfortable with in using my skill wheel so you decide basis your preference

[west cave]

All shared so read the channel up

[full brook]

I only looked up until the update before asking. I will go further back thanks.

[west cave]

This

[west cave]

This

[full brook]

Ty sir

[west cave]

It’s spirit frenzy and Will skill for mobbing only … for bossing I keep Will Skill separately as it doesn’t work during Will run where the skill will be stuck and I don’t want to have separate bossing wheel for other bossing and Will and sometimes I forget

[cobalt roost]

Guys i really like shade

Recommended as a boss mule?

I wanna 2nd main this class ngl

[junior wharf]

if you enjoy it. why not

[normal cobalt]

Me too

Selling my Aran eq to fund my shade

[serene aspen]

Many thanks

[tawdry lava]

Huge!!! Congrats bro

[cobalt roost]

Fuq aran lmao

They eff her remaster

Its so shiete

Im gonna build my shade too

[ruby topaz]

what trios to get?

[wispy quiver]

No wonder everyone following u

[raven glacier]

Congrats!!!

[normal cobalt]

Yea what a disaster, it was an easy class before remaster now it's so sophisticated

[cobalt roost]

Yeah im disappointed

Btw guys

I realised shade hp

Is on the lower side

Are your pots all hp%?

Cuz i main hero and i never roll hp%

[west cave]

Mix between phy attack / phy damage and HP

You need to be 500k hp at least

[feral elm]

Is the shade remaster a nerf or buff?

I see many saying their damage output reduced

[west cave]

There is a bug and they are working on it

[raven karma]

We did it boys

@junior wharf Kmsm had the same issue. It was fixed at a later patch

Especially for Will it was an issue

Lastly your fragments drop man!! 18 in 5h

[raven glacier]

Buff

[feral elm]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[dusty shell]

I mainly play on page 1 only.
I found this setup useful.
I’m still practicing / changing things around.

[dire raptor]

At last. My claw is hitting 120m only gosh

[raven karma]

But not sure if it was a visual bug or not

From 230 to 270 again with lv.10

[dire raptor]

I tested in fog forest. At last can hit back cap dmg

[raven karma]

Let’s goo! Huge buff for shade then

[raven glacier]

You’re telling me this wasn’t even our final form

https://tenor.com/view/goku-power-up-db-gif-11211679

[raven karma]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-digimon-ghost-game-siriusmon-attack-gif-9979443494909896632

[dire raptor]

From -15% dmg to increase 30% dmg now 💪🏻

[raven glacier]

That’s crazy difference tbh

[raven karma]

Yet @junior wharf increased his culvert score so much

[dire raptor]

Now i feel better with the revamp 🤭

[dire raptor]

U use upper blade imp for farming?

[west cave]

No

[raven glacier]

Just realised this skill does nothing

[strong atlas]

I'm lvl 205. Sf 140 and arcane 70.
I'm getting destroyed in AF lvl 1 wtfff

How can I make shade sustainable in defense and hp

[dire raptor]

Use bp if u cant survive. Bp can knock back

[strong atlas]

🤔

Still dying loool.

I don't have issue with dmg. Just the collision dmg from enemies

[normal cobalt]

What does the guardian spirit do?

[strong atlas]

Only jave 36k hp. Immediately hits me with 16k dmg. Lol

[dire raptor]

Change to top n btm

[strong atlas]

Wait. I'm new. What does that mean

[fluid magnet]

Chaos Root Abyss dungeon. This dungeon drops special tokens that can be exchanged for armour, AKA top & bottom.

[raven glacier]

I got 40k hp lvl 210 surviving easy. Still using unique gear I got for free

Using v9 pots

[frosty sapphire]

Congrats 🥳🥳

[vestal narwhal]

What are the shade trios?

[devout shell]

Hyper stats , perfect trio changed?

[cosmic flume]

Can anyone share the new perfect trio?

Or still this??

[west cave]

I have shared my trio so look up

My practice run in vhilla hard solo without ds4

[cosmic flume]

I sa them but is hard to see out of theb6bthe names can you plz upload then with names?

Specially for us that dint main dhade

Shade

[cobalt roost]

Noted

[west cave]

You guys are making me work a lot … also all my souls are Final Damage

[cobalt roost]

🐳

Damn

Big ahh whale

Black mage conqueror soon

[serene aspen]

Farm 2: 8k/h 41% droprate with AJ mobbing skill wheel. GREAT

[west cave]

You can buy these buffs also to help with speed and drop rate

[raven karma]

Don’t forget erda shower too, bro

[raven karma]

Avg capping too You have arcane wep?

[west cave]

This

Got it today

[dusty shell]

But why u need bomb punch, shockwave ?

U use those skills?

[west cave]

These were pre patch so don’t want to change and shockwave was addition as I got trio with frenzy and blade Imp so third one is an addition

You can decide between all and do your best trio’s

[raven glacier]

Thanks for sharing @west cave 🙏 some nice end goals to aim for 🤝

[west cave]

Happy to help

[junior wharf]

torch has been passed 🙂

[west cave]

Never Sir … I always come to you for an advice

[serene aspen]

Appriciate that

[raven karma]

@west cave You just got a full-time job in here

[raven karma]

Shades hp not on lower side, it’s the highest of the pirates

Base is above mages, archers and thief’s

[west cave]

Yep they are supposed to be tanks

[raven karma]

I had 426k hp before patch. Not sure what passive we lost

My gear not good like @west cave 🔥

But if your getting carried, work on hp so you don’t die for your hyper carries

[cobalt roost]

Ooo

[cobalt roost]

Dude

Sick name

🔥

[raven karma]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-goty-game-of-the-year-tarnished-margit-gif-27608407

[west cave]

I was 496k before patch

[raven karma]

96% still on the upperside

Trying to reroll all mine

[west cave]

Just see my gear … you need to balance phy attack and max hp

[raven karma]

I’m still waiting on item transfer event to send over gear

Just relaxing til then

Shoulder and cape I’ll make sf23 and use for exalt

[junior wharf]

we lost 5% hp from a passive

[raven karma]

At least we got 10% from the link skill

Huge from 2%

[junior wharf]

@west cave if you are rolling for HP. try to get a combination of flat hp and %HP.

just %HP alone doesnt scale. but with some flat hp. it can scale better

as a test. I removed origin now that we no longer have a 30sec buff

[raven karma]

So my reroll was worse?

[raven karma]

But isn’t it better to have a full map clear?

[junior wharf]

its not truly a full map clear. as far as i can see

[raven karma]

So you’d say it’s better to not use it? My drops are bad always

[junior wharf]

im just testing it. it is my highest kill per hour as of right now

[west cave]

I agree I saw that and since it’s tested will try it without origin

[manic horizon]

Curious is the new soul splitter is better than old? Idk why I remember it literally creating another clone of the target and we could attack that. Am I tripping?

[raven karma]

No it’s true. It’s worse for the team but 10% fd is also needed

[manic horizon]

Still arguably best pirate class? Or is that Bucc

[raven karma]

Play what you like, don’t follow meta. Easy way to get disappointed

@west cave @junior wharf Are yall soloing?

[west cave]

Yes for more frags

Due will give less frags

[wispy quiver]

Anyone got trio and hyper passives?

[raven karma]

True, but haven’t gotten good rates since first week of v6

Now my goal is 260, to prepare for the next map

[cobalt roost]

What class

[raven karma]

To my shade

EU has no pirate gear and I don’t want to exalt

[cobalt roost]

Ohhh

[soft orchid]

Question; why shockwave punch to be part of the trio? 🤔

[junior wharf]

its not. hes just filling the required skills needed, aka spirit frenzy

[soft orchid]

ahhhh it makes sense now, thanks !

[raven karma]

Next level meta

[latent dagger]

wdym, it summons his emotional support 😌

[undone rune]

So what are the required? These 7?

Spirit claw, fox spirit, spirit frenzy, Frenzy incarnation, death mark, spirit redemption, blade imp?

[junior wharf]

you can look at my most recent pinned. its listed disregard the images.

[undone rune]

Thank you!

[mortal glade]

Does spirit redemption any dmg for boost node?

[junior wharf]

the question, is why would you want to die in the first place

[versed timber]

Anybody farming A40? How do u tank the hits?

[cobalt roost]

U need nodes and decent gear

Mythic wep and some mythic hp armor

[versed timber]

Got it thanks 👍🏻

[fluid magnet]

Next map 260? Was hoping 255 cuz been fragmaxxing all this while lol

[sacred zephyr]

AB wheel? & skill presets ?

[soft orchid]

What do your think of this pre-250 preset skills? The objective is to hold one button and release all the skill in one shot during the start of battle

[west cave]

Not advisable as it might get stopped in between of the boss push you or you need to move hence distribute the burst and these have different timing some one min cool down others more

[stuck pike]

can someone share pre 250 wheel for farming

[west cave]

Use this and if any skill post are not there then don’t put it

[wispy quiver]

whats in ur P3 preset

[dire raptor]

Is it better to remove origin when farming?

[junior wharf]

still doing that test. uh so far looks only slightly better

[raven karma]

I tried it and I had 11.9k mobs an hour solo

Any skill that makes you stand still isn’t good. So it makes sense to remove it also

[normal cobalt]

Seems like shade is now the top pirate

[raven glacier]

A pirate class with Avatar Aang Spirit world vibes was a dream come true when it first released

And it still is

[noble oyster]

what is this buff for ?

[cobalt roost]

Aesthetic

Its like hoyoung ears

[mortal glade]

What we max here? Can’t find it in this chat

[raven glacier]

No way a name buddy Utreus

[west cave]

This is for bossing

For farming and use it to buff before moving to bossing set so you can get more time for buffs

Bossing legion

Exp legion

[noble oyster]

what

[noble oyster]

so no one know ?

[raven glacier]

Our names are 1 letter different

[noble oyster]

maybe we are long lost brother

[strong atlas]

What's the skill rotation for Shade's auto battle? I'm just lvl 210. And trying not to die

[west cave]

For me while farming I cleans more mobbs and get more drops … maybe it’s linked to drop rate and speed but am keeping origin

[soft orchid]

Thanks a lot man! Good point there, let me split it out 👍🏼

[knotty ore]

Phy atk better than evd?

[shy kayak]

Ofc evd is never a go to

[raven glacier]

My fav youtuber just uploaded

[west cave]

I think once Primo will hit weapon he will beat my record

Still figuring out best rotation for immortal guild dungeon

@junior wharf try origin then blast and see I feel it’s better than the other one

[lucid torrent]

higher before remastered or after?

[west cave]

After

But my guild dungeon is lower after remaster no idea why

[thick crescent]

This is correct trio right?

For Boss

[raven glacier]

Yes

[thick crescent]

Tyy

[knotty ore]

Why?

[raven karma]

Cannoneer > All

[raven karma]

Less lines bro from origin

Your capping guild dungeon

While Culvert harder to cap all

[junior wharf]

ill give it a try.

[raven karma]

Only 9.5k mobs/hr in duo. Still decent I think

[raven karma]

And then you or AJ make a video

[junior wharf]

video for what. culvert? i have one up already with what I think is the best burset rotation

[raven karma]

After remaster?

[junior wharf]

yes sir.

[raven karma]

I’ll check later 🚀

[junior wharf]

@raven karma

i didnt record the best run cause i forgot to hit record

[raven karma]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-for-your-service-jed-haverford-the-terminal-list-dark-wolf-i'm-grateful-for-your-efforts-prime-video-gif-3469410705029873854

[wispy quiver]

is the non 4th job skills worth using? like that purple imp skill?

[frosty sapphire]

I dont think

[west cave]

[torpid fern]

It seems hardly any change in skill wheel from @ primonewt @ aburevived0838 @ ajmani

[dusty shell]

yes every one of them do something. imp skill bring Debuff target.
i already did some changes becouse i forgot blink 🤦‍♂️

[thick crescent]

Shade just have 1 iframe?

Have revive, but iframe just one?

[junior wharf]

they have 2 more now

170 hyper is an iframe and smashing bomb punch which is like 3-4secs

[west cave]

[west cave]

Nice so origin then blast is better

[junior wharf]

uh. nah i hit my weap. i tried twice doing your rotation and I did worse.

[west cave]

lol … nice mate and congrats

[frosty sapphire]

Can show us what skills you use for farming ?
I removed the origin then get -200 kills each hour, i see here you kill 12,913 for hour.
i kill with origin like 12,600-12,650,
how you get kill more 300 monsters in hour ?

[junior wharf]

at this point its just speed

[frosty sapphire]

You have more then 190% ?

🫠

[junior wharf]

197

[frosty sapphire]

Nice, can share SS of your mobbing skills on farm ?

[lament pewter]

Shade is much better than Aran in this remaster

[torpid fern]

Yes at least shade no longer feel like inferior farmer

[real atlas]

Blade imp
Spirit frenzy
Shockwave Punch
Bomb Punch
Fox Spirit
Deaths Mark
Spirit Redemption
Spirit Claw
Spirit Incarnation

so many boost nodes 😵‍💫

[real atlas]

is there any prio for buffs? free pets can only occupy 3 rows (12)

[west cave]

Sir shockewave and bomb punch I had them due to earlier and other requirements so you can move them out but if you made them then it’s up to you … no trio’s for buffs as they are a single slot

[real atlas]

np, finally got the trios in place took very long haha, was asking more of any buffs i should priotize on pets for buffing during AB

ill prolly just read through and mix & match

[west cave]

Put everything except Freud

[strong atlas]

What lvl ate you guys and where r u farming? 🫪

[steel kite]

For vskill we need 9 of them?

[raven karma]

• freuds buff

[raven karma]

You need faster speedhack

[frosty sapphire]

With speed buff ?

[raven karma]

Yeah man

Wish I had 240% clean

[wispy quiver]

How to use blade imp?

[warm brook]

hi im kinda new to MS, how do i get more speed besides the jewels and legion

[fluid magnet]

Potential on Shoes & Cape

[west cave]

See the skill rotation up and you just hold the preset and it will pop up before split and origin

[upbeat mist]

Hey guys is Shade a better Main than Aran?

[soft orchid]

I have both, it depends on your play style whether if you enjoyed it. No harm to create both and find out whether if you like it. However, within Aran’s channel, there are other players find that it’s getting weaker 🫪

[west cave]

https://youtu.be/uCifLhI0eLo?feature=shared

I hate this new score with the remaster

[raven karma]

Why?

[west cave]

I was doing 73 b before and now 66 b

[raven karma]

But the content sucks anyways

We need the kmsm papalatius that attacks back

And have to dodge lasers

[cobalt roost]

OH THIS IS YOU?

Never realised that lol

[west cave]

Always been AJ99

[raven glacier]

I was doing 2.2b now 3.2b, how can it go down by so much?

[west cave]

I will try different rotations and see

[cobalt roost]

From pc side

Ignore the ones that are applicable in mobile

[strong atlas]

Best AB wheel for Shade?

[soft orchid]

Scroll up and you can see AB from AJ

[devout shell]

Shade good farmer ?

[west cave]

Phantom is good farmer

[raven karma]

For now yes

But BM eats everyone alive

[latent dagger]

anyone else finding Fox God Flash's BGM change really annoying

[tawdry lava]

Yes

I wanted to write in feedback that they should add a transparency gage

Because even when you set every thing down it is still there

[median garden]

Hi guys, does anyone have SS's of the recommended set up for bossing, auto battling, and the hyper passives/VMatrix?

Checked the pins but its still the outdated version

[west cave]

Scroll up you will find everything

[soft orchid]

Wondering who can pin the comments, so that easier to reference for anyone ask for hyper, setup, etc

[raven karma]

@junior wharf @west cave right option?

Trying to scale down my hp for more dmg

[west cave]

This is mine

[raven karma]

I’ve done close to 300+ red cubes and probably 100+ black and still haven’t seen double phy dmg

So for now, I’d be happier with 3% hp and 4% phy dmg right? @west cave

Since I’m not capping

[west cave]

Yep fine for now … when the event of potential comes up then try it … I usually spend 10k cubes 🤣

[raven glacier]

I didnt know so maybe others dont either, lvl 60 is max level for these nodes

No point in having 120 levels like me lmao

[raven karma]

Ima spam Bonus L pot on some gear this week, can’t wait for event 😂

A lot are Unique pot, just want them to go L

[mortal glade]

What line count had shade before remaster and what is line count now?

[dire raptor]

Sc 15>12 origin 7.7>5.2

[torpid fern]

Does shade aran remaster cosmetics/class art resemble mo Xuan for those who want the class but it not in mobile?

[raven glacier]

Theres 12 skill nodes for shade.
I think each node can go up to lvl 30.
Each skill can be max lvl 60.
Each boostnode has 3 nodes of which the first node is the leading node I think which can only be used once.

I asked chatgpt to find the best combo’s to max the relevant skills (8).

It gave me these combo’s

This way you max out all skills with 6 boostnodes

@junior wharf am I doing this right sir?

[west cave]

Follow this without the bomb punch

[raven glacier]

Oddly, I have 3 maxed boostnodes with Incarnation, SC and Fox Spirits.

They all lvl 30. So 90 levels, 30 of which are too much cause lvl 60 is max.

BUT when I remove 1 of the 3 boost nodes, making the total levels go from 90 to 60, my CP goes down, but shouldnt it stay the same cause max level is 60 in both cases??

[west cave]

Recheck … max is 60 so no point to add a third skill from the same set

[lament pewter]

Did u refill the empty node with another whatever node?

[raven glacier]

Simply removed nothing else

38k difference in cp eventhough both have skills capped at 60

[west cave]

For me CP is immaterial as long as you have the right trio and maxed … adding more is a waste … focus on others … you need to check fog or GH or GD and see if there is a difference which it won’t be

[lament pewter]

That's the raison of CP change. U can gain cp just by fill an empty node.

And i do believe that the cal of CP only focus on node's lvl than what it rly brings, something like coef A * total skill node lvl + coef B * total boost node lvl + coef c * special node lvl. So u litterally drop off 25 lvls from nodes by removing it.

[raven glacier]

Thanks for the explanation!

CP really is a completely useless stat lmao

[lament pewter]

yes. CP is more like the indicator of the dmg ceilling and survibility,

U r w

[junior wharf]

for now you can keep it the 3 trios. its fine. since you're still early game. youd rather allocate node enhancement points for something else.

i actually have no idea what summon other spirits are but ok

If you check my edited pinned message. its all that you need

[raven glacier]

Its Redemption, i copied PC ms names from some random website

Thanks !

[frosty sapphire]

For what you use blade imp ?

[west cave]

Debuf during bossing

[foggy cradle]

So this is perfect trio to follow? Just no need include boom puch?

[raven karma]

~10% phy / mag dmg debuff you need to read patch notes bro

[foggy cradle]

Anyone can share ab rotation?

[tawdry lava]

Some said that it’s better to remove the origin skill.
Test it for yourself

[raven glacier]

https://youtu.be/H5B2nxW94nI?si=FRenvYOW8iyoUqyv

Even with weapon he cant beat you

Cant wait to go home from vacation and compile all tips in this chat into one overview lmao

[west cave]

He is still no 1 shade guru and I always follow his guidance

[raven glacier]

Watched the video in slow mo. His keybinds seem to be as follows:

P1: Fox God, Overdrive, Spirit Gate, Multi Punch,
P2: Frenzy, Will Skill,
P3: Blade, Split, Advent
P4: Trap, Erda Nova

Gotta watch it again to see the rotation but no time

[cobalt roost]

shouldnt multi punch be after split for extra fd?

[raven glacier]

I think he uses P2 > P3 > P1 but not sure

And advent he uses last after P1 is finished in the video if I recall correctly

[cobalt roost]

new summon skill
auto buff whatever skill he put inside his pet
will, 2 debuffs (purple color icon)
p1 (fox god, overdrive, spirit gate, smashing)
origin
incarceration
new summon skill

slot in enhanced spirit claw every 3 seconds

@raven glacier

[raven glacier]

Thats his rotation?

Im confused please consider I have 0 iq

[cobalt roost]

yes

i played 0.25 speed

or sum shii like that

or 0.5

[raven glacier]

What is the new summon skill? frenzy?

[cobalt roost]

the level 60 one

blue color thingy

the place down skill

[raven glacier]

Yea Frenzy

[cobalt roost]

that one

ye

look more calm then frenzy to me lol

chg the name to spirit chill

nexon take notes

[raven glacier]

Frenzy > Pet Buffs > Blade Imp + Death Mark > P1 > Origin > Incarnation > Frenzy

Every 3 sec SC

[cobalt roost]

ye

slot in ur spirit claw

extra dmg

3 sec cd

[raven glacier]

Right so every 3 sec SC

[cobalt roost]

ye

[raven glacier]

@west cave maybe this helps figuring out the best rotation sir

[cobalt roost]

every class same rotation sir

buff debuff burst dpm

[raven glacier]

Wonder why not keep death mark and frenzy in a preset with SC.

Both have debufs you constantly need

[soft orchid]

Actually you could just have 2 trio, then add 5 skill points to each trio, then that would max out to 60

[cobalt roost]

very wasteful of the 10 skill points

[raven glacier]

Yea I deleted the third and redone all nodes so that all skills are maxed, i just never knew there was a cap on these node boosts lmao

[soft orchid]

How so? 🤔

[cobalt roost]

because boost nodes are easier to get

those skill points should go to v skill, common, and will node

boost can get duplicates in different slots

V, C, and Will cannot

its just one single node in one single slot

[soft orchid]

You brought a good point. However, i notice that after i max out the v skills and will, and seems to have spare points left

[cobalt roost]

bruh

goddes

overdrive

u losing dmg

ur goddess is level 25

instead of 30

[soft orchid]

Yeah, i’m thinking what else to add more points to 😂

[cobalt roost]

freuds also

dice im not sure

then there's speed infusion and all those skills

hyper body

the crit rate one and boss attack ones

[soft orchid]

Ignore my trio, i’m rebuilding my trio to remove bomb punch (it was useful before revamp) 😂

Slowly building those side skills

Back then i’m seeing those top players also adding skill points to those trio

[cobalt roost]

Why remove bomb punch

[soft orchid]

Bomb punch isn’t useful after revamp

[cobalt roost]

Dont u need spirit frenzy and the debuff skill?

U need that node for mastery core in the future

[soft orchid]

Building in process haha

[cobalt roost]

Okok

[raven glacier]

I got all skills maxed with this. Could do 1 trio less but couldnt find the right one

Only need 6 trios to max all skills really

[soft orchid]

F2P only can slowly build 😂

[raven glacier]

Nodestone are only 800k

And you get insane free amount from events lmao

[soft orchid]

Agree man, insane cheap nodestone

waiting for anniversary event to receive more free gift 🥳

[raven glacier]

Sooooon

[cobalt roost]

No need all the skills

Just these 6

3 set each

Mix and match

Skill points remove

Put inside goddess frueds and will

[soft orchid]

Actually can reference AJ’s , seems solid to follow also

[cobalt roost]

@raven glacier @soft orchid

Here u go

Rank 1 shade a2s node

Look at the skill point distribution

[junior wharf]

if you wanted the skill rotation could've just asked 🙂

but i am in no way saying that this is the BEST rotation.

even i dont know

sorry for bad editing.

[raven glacier]

THANK YOU SIR 🙏

[junior wharf]

i tried multiple rotation and out of all the ones i tested. the one I use seemed to be better. but prove me wrong. im always open for conversation

[cobalt roost]

No ur is correct, ignore my msg cuz

I was reading atreus sequence that he typed

I also cast the same as primo

[junior wharf]

[west cave]

Primo is Secondo

[cobalt roost]

EH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I DIDNT KNOW

😂 😂 😂 😂

Lul

[junior wharf]

yea.. I dont normally go by primo here

[cobalt roost]

I saw the emoji

And i tot

That look like primo

LUL

[junior wharf]

i also dont want to ask to change my name to the current one I have cause it might be offensive to some

[cobalt roost]

I see

[raven glacier]

Man Shade chat really blessed to have this many pro’s

[junior wharf]

sadly its hard to get asia shade inputs cause they are just in their own world

[raven glacier]

After applying Secondo’s rotation, and maxing out my trio’s, huge difference for me 4.37>5.28b

[west cave]

My cWill run

[junior wharf]

I didnt want to bother uploading my cwill cause I forgot to reequip my weap after hitting arcane. so I was without a weap for like 2-3mins

[west cave]

Looking forward for that sir when you do

[frosty sapphire]

What about the bomb punch thats useless no ?

[soft orchid]

Noob question: At what situation that you guys might use “Blink” skill (not the back step’s shade skill)

[tawdry lava]

Useless

[tawdry lava]

Boss content.
Mostly Damien and gloom I’ll say

And will sometimes

[normal cobalt]

Harchon also needed if HP is low and you need to fly up to wait for PE CD to end

[tawdry lava]

Yup

[west cave]

https://youtu.be/bCKMq1BWnQw?feature=shared

Culvert and guild dungeon new scores

[weary siren]

Any one can help with shade new remastered trio skill and skill wheel?

[west cave]

Scroll up you will find everything

[oblique shale]

Is Shade better than Aran in terms of DPS?

[raven glacier]

Yes

Purely judging by how ultra weak aran 220 felt compared to shade 220 during current burning event

[raven karma]

Yeah, useless but keep it because we have to many node slots

[raven karma]

Vhilla, when casting green / purple. You go directly into boss. Just tap it

[raven karma]

Do I keep bonus pot or nah? Tired of doing this. Done 100+ and it won’t give me double lines

[unique aspen]

how come i cant find any of the skills pictured here? (lv210 shade) 😂

[raven glacier]

Thats pre revamp

[unique aspen]

what do i pick here

[unique aspen]

oh

[unique aspen]

whats the perfect trio now?

[junior wharf]

dont look at the images. thats outdated, but the trios needed are still there

[west cave]

Change it … I think it’s weapon so have two lines CD

[west cave]

<@&434169032284045313> I guess new joiners cannot see earlier post so can you help with pinning messages or give access to see previous messages

[raven karma]

Yeah it’s wep, just annoying not get double line

[west cave]

Well you need to keep in mind you need at least 9000 or more cubes to o hit two perfect lines

[vestal narwhal]

Whats the best hyper stat order?

[boreal glen]

I want to know too

Which one I should max first

[west cave]

Final damage , max damage , physical damage ,additional damage , Boss Attack

You don’t need critical damage as you will get them from pots and emblem

Keep boss attack towards the end

[indigo shadow]

Hey guys any one can send me ab prest skill and boss skill prest

[tawdry lava]

Bossing

[tawdry lava]

AB

[raven glacier]

Think I'll just combine everything AJ and Primo have shared in one overview

So that a mod can finally pin it

** SHADE Post-Revamp **

__Hyper skills __
Spirit Claw - Reinforce
Spirit Claw - Boss Rush
Spirit Claw - Extra Strike
Fox Spirits - Reinforece
Fox Spirits - Repeated Attack Chance

__Hypers stats __
FD => PD => BA => additional hits => MDC

__V-Matrix __
Boost nodes for bossing:
Blade Imp, Fox Spirits, Spirit Frenzy, Spirit Trap, Spirit Redemption, Spirit Claw, Death Mark, Spirit Incarnation

**Perfect Trios: ** Fox Spirits, Spirit Claw, Spirit Incarnation.
**Secondary Trio: ** Death's mark/ Spirit Frenzy/ Any Filler
Sidenote: Spirit trap/ Spirit Redemption/ Blade imp is optional/for min-maxing.

Each boost-node can have the same leading node once. ***FOR EXAMPLE: ***
The following Boostnode Trio has Fox Spirits, Spirit Redemption and Death Mark: .
This means you cant have another boost node trio that starts with Fox Spirits.

Skills are maxed out at maxed out at level 60. You can max out all boost nodes with the following 6 combinations of boost node trios:

1. Blade Imp / Fox Spirits / Spirit Frenzy
2. Spirit Trap / Spirit Redemption / Spirit Claw
3. Death Mark / Spirit Redemption / Blade Imp
4. Fox Spirits / Spirit Frenzy / Spirit Trap
5. Spirit Redemption / Spirit Claw / Death Mark
6. Spirit Incarnation / Blade Imp / Fox Spirits

This way all boost nodes are at least level 50. Add matrix points to these nodes and they all hit level 60.

@west cave 's V-Matrix pages:

HEXA Matrix
@west cave 's HEXA-Matrix pages:

__Bossing & Exp Legion __
Also from @west cave

AB wheel
P2 = Spirit Frenzy & Will Skill
From @junior wharf

Bossing Wheel & Rotation
Rotation: P2 > Death Mark > Blade Imp > P1 > P3
Every 3 seconds you can throw in Spirit Claw for added dmg from True Spirit Claw V Skill.

Youtube channels that might help
https://www.youtube.com/@PrimoMSM
https://www.youtube.com/@muhiri77
https://www.youtube.com/@OmenMSM

Much thanks to @west cave & @junior wharf for sharing all the tips and tricks

[west cave]

@raven glacier thank you so much you made shade life’s easier by adding all of this … much appreciated

[raven glacier]

<@&434169032284045313> Please pin so that we stop getting the same questions everyday

[junior wharf]

@lusty scroll WAKE UP

[raven glacier]

I even bought nitro and made emoji's just for this lmao

Please let me know if something is wrong

[junior wharf]

[vestal narwhal]

Great work big thanks

[junior wharf]

id advise that spirit trap/spirit redemption is not needed what so ever. Blade imp is optional.

[raven glacier]

This is kinda decent boost tho right?

I think the DIR unlocks at level 40? not sure tho

[junior wharf]

those stills are not for dmg. sure if you want min/max, but its not required

[raven glacier]

I'll add that thanks sir

[junior wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-hitch-slap-non-sense-gif-17449773

[junior wharf]

the reason why I say this is so, people dont have the wrong idea or reason to go for these trios.

Perfect Trios: Spirit claw/Spirit Incarnation/Fox spirits
Secondary Trio: death's mark/Spirit Frenzy/ Any Filler

I edited my old pinned message so, they dont get the wrong idea as "its needed"

i dont include blade imp either cause its just for a debuff

[raven glacier]

just 6 nodes total so easy to get to max everything so thought why not might as well max it all

[lusty scroll]

I wiped the pre-remaster pins. If anyone has anything to add or if the OP of any pins quit and new veteran wants to take over the post just let any mod know and we can adjust the pins to make it easier for yall to help newbies. Good pin, guys! One of the most informative ones in all of the forums here so far

[junior wharf]

until we have the option to craft trios as we please. Even I myself dont want to bother doing all that

[torpid fern]

Lucky I follow @junior wharf stuffs before the pinning

[lament pewter]

nowadays just go FD => PD => BA => additional hits first. That 2m MDC is not as important as before.

[cobalt roost]

No need mdc

Adi lvl1 can already

The rest go into cd

[lament pewter]

Same thought

[raven glacier]

Thats what AJ shared

I’ll edit it 🫡

Makes sense that 2m MDC isnt priority

First time clearing Damien. Got close with hard mode but im too clunky on mobile and cant evade anything. Single normal mode was do able tho

[west cave]

Maybe it’s different for me since am capping all lines and I need mdc … whatever suits your character please follow … this is my set which I wanted to share

[raven karma]

At least this patch was a QoL for us shades. I’m really enjoying the iframes.

Still waiting on item transfer event since December to transfer gear. I still think 230-250m mdc is a good sweet spot to enjoy the game

[exotic crow]

New shade hyper passives?

Nvm found

[boreal glen]

Who create new account shade and already done maple adventure?

[soft orchid]

It feels pretty rare to have Necro Hat for Pirate to be available in Trade Station 🤔

[raven glacier]

Pirate gear always pretty rare tbh

There havent been enough pirate players to have supply in TS I think

[full eagle]

What is a good AB skill wheel pre 200?

[raven glacier]

Same as Post 200 but without the post 200 skills.
If you cant survive than switch Spirit Claw out for Bomb Punch

[devout shell]

Should I invest more and make this af farmer? Already got 2 af farmers

[west cave]

Bow Master and Phantom are best sf farmers

[cobalt roost]

i think he meant meso farmers

[soft orchid]

While waiting for necro hat, the only choice of hat is root abyss hat for now 😅

[worldly dune]

dawn warrior vs hero bossing?

[manic horizon]

Check with the DW’s or Hero’s chat, imo DW hidden op

[soft orchid]

First time cleared level 60 in Kerning M as F2P! 🥳

[raven glacier]

Wow you’re already 244!

Going fast

Congrats

[soft orchid]

Thanks mate! All thanks to the event 😂

[raven glacier]

Im only 237 since this day

Its been 3 months apparently

Not that bad I gues slmao

[soft orchid]

You’re very fast! I took me a long time to reach here, just going cruising and enjoy the grind slowly to level up 😂

[raven glacier]

I really want to know how big of a buff hitting 250 will be

[junior wharf]

it makes bossing a lot easier. id say your bosses will be 20-30% faster

[cobalt roost]

Dawn warrior better

I main hero

Go play dawn

Better

[fluid magnet]

Why you gatekeep 😂

[fluid magnet]

Huge. Almost doubled my damage output

[cobalt roost]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-gif-4920596927346794709

[boreal glen]

1hr 8m+- in af130 is this normal for shade?

[west cave]

https://youtu.be/P9XrYHMaUWk?feature=shared

[raven glacier]

I can never get passed 40

[devout shell]

40 I think you can backflash dodge from side to side like iel

[raven karma]

Good enough? These cubes cost me so much crystals I could spent on something more fun

[west cave]

Looks good

Get DIR of at least one line of 4% on all your gears

[raven karma]

They are all 4%+ or double line except shoulder and cape, since I’m not upgrading those. Waiting to buy lv70 cape, shoulder when it comes up

[raven karma]

This is my project to replace my current knuckle. 3/7 exalts. Hopefully better way to lv60 than my current

[boreal glen]

Hey guy what main skill u use for hunting a claw or bomb punch??

[soft orchid]

Bomb punch - pre level 200
Claw - after level 200

Hyper skill - all claws (no bomb punch at all)

[cobalt roost]

Yes

For all classes

[boreal glen]

Do u know how to see how much my damage cap

[fluid magnet]

On your character info sheet. Either (top left) click on your name, or (top right) through the menu.

[boreal glen]

This ?

[fluid magnet]

Yes

[flat condor]

Trio still same?

[raven glacier]

Check pin

[torpid fern]

Shade is alright with no pirates in mind aside from tb but TB is combo class ...... Hope not terrible like kain aran blaster

[vestal narwhal]

Do free/event emblem change scrolls occur often? Considering buying a knuckle with wrong emblem and changing it in the future when free scrolls come out.

[raven glacier]

I wouldnt waste my time on a wrong emblem knuckle tbh

Chances of hitting the right emblem are not that great

[fluid magnet]

If it’s a Necro with wrong emblem & this isn’t your main, I’d get it for a reasonable price.
The +30% Atk is the real reward here

[ruby topaz]

what vskills to prioritize enhancing?

[round kiln]

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[torpid fern]

How's shade survivability vs aran at More Ars/aes?