Luminous

[orchid wave]

Will need to wait till tmrw to get a video in

But yes I know what you meant

The orbs doesn’t hit all onto ark

[thick tiger]

Lol didnt even notice

[pseudo viper]

I noticed it when it released, thought it was normal😅, so instead of being aggro, i had to stay on one side instead of the middle. Didnt know it was a bug

[pearl solstice]

Whats the skill wheel for mobbing pre-200? Do we care about light and dark or just reflection? And what about death scythe and armagedon?

[orchid wave]

I've send in a ticket under bug report, hopefully they will do something about it, meanwhile do submit evidence on your end as well to ensure it doesn't not go unaware

[graceful kiln]

I bet they gonna say they meant each orb on equilibrium is single target, and just gonna throw a skill description fix on us

[spiral rain]

better to use v4 manually or put in pet buff?

[pseudo viper]

Lol lumi a joke class. I was doing more in sharenian before the v4 update

12k score and down to 10.4k

Not even hitting close to 12k

[solar rover]

huh

We are all hitting more though

i went from 17k to 25k, and I am not optimized

[pseudo viper]

Idk, this is me fully buffed and lv20 v4

[solar rover]

i think I can push to 26 or 27k based on the video above

[solar rover]

follow the video on top

I didn't follow it and I have about 2k less score

either way no chance u get less score

[pseudo viper]

Idk, planning to quit either way, just playing for as long as I can. Tired of getting screwed by nexon

[solar rover]

weird though, fun part about getting a new skill is to be the first to figure out the new optimized set

that's when less funded can figure out ways to beat the funded

until the meta is fixed

[pseudo viper]

Play syle is no longer fun for me. I play the game for the gameplay. really feels like playing a different class now. Motivation to play is no longer there. Just a small rant

[solar rover]

the option to quit is always there, personally i feel lumi dropped a bit down the dmg rankings overall, but not losing out that much content wise

[hazy frost]

❤️‍🩹

[graceful kiln]

I agree with the claim it's like a new class right now, and not a class I enjoy to play. It sucks it came to this

[river cedar]

I went from 12, 13k to about 20k. Need to be quite specific though in the steps.

1. Charge equi and activate DS4
2. Immediately enter SC with DS4 running
3. Cast Reflec/MS until stage 5, throw one V3
4. Stage 6 either invul or bind boss at right corner and enter equi to time exactly with new run of DS4. Throw V2, V4 now
5. Watch out for every new DS4 activation

Should be able to get much better scores

Caveat - it follows the video quite closely with the few points..,

• Use ACP to tank dizzy (I didn’t…quite extreme for me)
• Raw stats need to be decent to enter stage 6 fast enough to time new run of DS4. Otherwise the Lumi player will need to experiment how to effectively replicate the video

[faint agate]

Same

[pseudo viper]

Its better now, but before v4 we didnt even need to look at ds4 since our burst just timed perfectly with it

[faint agate]

Lumi is trash to play
Not even talking about dmg

Just gameplay itself

[hazy frost]

post here

https://discord.com/channels/413046906638565395/1255621125606740029

Looks like the gm read this thread

[graceful kiln]

[solar rover]

Damn, your cp is high though, i am barely scratching 300m

[faint agate]

Never gonna happen 😂

[graceful kiln]

25sec equilibrium is realistic I think

V3 buff on top of that meh

[pseudo viper]

Yea, I'll take 25s equi over v3 buff. I think with that we will rely less on equalize like before the v4 update

[faint agate]

25sec equilibrium should fix it

[hazy frost]

more than fix it

it will allow you to play how ever you like

no reason to buff v3

I Hope they undestand , we must have 1 of the 2

everyday passed by , im less motivated to open MSM

its scary

[faint agate]

What do u mean

[orchid wave]

You’re definitely doing something v wrong hahaha

Do send a video if you have

Unless you have very bad raw stats or 8cd kind of gears, in general it should be a raise still no matter what

[thick tiger]

For damien does equilibrium cancel out any of the damage?

[graceful kiln]

It doesn't cancel anything in there. They really need to redo this ability, it's so unclear

[river cedar]

The 2 skills for invul that works in Damien are Freud and Ethereal. You’d also need to make Blink for Damien.

[thick tiger]

Why blink on a lumi?

[solar rover]

For it’s secondary effect

[river cedar]

For flying to the skyyyyy

[orchid wave]

It’s very clear actually, and they have mentioned it clearly. Irregardless of equilibrium mode or not, 1 hp doesn’t apply to those hp scaled dmg skills or fixed dmg ones

[graceful kiln]

We all know that but not because of how it is described

I defo wouldn't call the description clear

Also ark crack is fixed dmg, and it's canceled

[orchid wave]

Press the ‘ i ‘ button beside skill

Under help you see tip 2

Read the bottom part will you

[orchid wave]

Fixed dmg is dark thunder, damage of 24k x 5 hits = 120k fixed. Screen crack is actually a DEBUFF and a 1HKO skill , not fixed dmg, thus it could be mitigated with bishop holy shell and other skills like BaM party shield

[graceful kiln]

I know I'm just saying they could put it a better skill description. Ark is weird since it works against cracks but won't work if orbs were messed up. It makes sense but still, not always that straightforward

Also it makes itself useless in many situations, especially late game ones. Could be nice if it was possible to utilize this ability more

[gentle night]

Should just make lumi invulnerable during equil ✌️

[spiral hull]

How good is lumi endgame?

Im currently lv117 thinking of going to bishop

Ive started over, after being 202 Evan

[orchid wave]

Can’t have the best of both worlds, and it’s already the best when they grant the push prevention effect, it will be truly broken if all incoming damage is 1 when in equilibrium mode

[river cedar]

Equilibrium turns into Ethereal, give you invul, but unable to attack 😂

[pseudo viper]

I'll send one maybe next week. Just left my guild on Monday and cant do culvert for the week

[orchid wave]

I see, it’s totally understandable

I was doing way lower myself and thought about the same as well, take the time and buff to practice more and you’ll be able to do much better

[pseudo viper]

Oh, tbh, I dont try in culvert lol. 12k before v4 was me not trying that much and the 10k after v4 was the same amount of effort. I did get it to 14k with me activating ds4 in the beginning, but never bothered to try to sync ds4. I'll try to put some effort on my next attempt lol

[strange nebula]

complains about lumi being a joke class

says "tbh, I dont try in culvert lol"

maybe just bad player with skill issue?

[pseudo viper]

lol, I mentioned with the same less effort I did less with v4

[strange nebula]

they already removed ds swap how much less effort do you want SC to be

LOL

[pseudo viper]

I dont swap ds4 and ds3 lol

Lol, and talking about "skill issue"

I've been posting vids here on how i do my rotations

Go show me your way of playing lumi

[strange nebula]

does it involve "never bothered to try to sync ds4"

[pseudo viper]

Lol I only did one attempt

msm not all about culvert

[strange nebula]

never done ark, lotus, damien or lucid before?

[pseudo viper]

Dude is triggered and thinks lumi doesnt need to be fixed

Nevermind, not gonna give you any entertainment. No point in explaining to someone like you

[strange nebula]

haha

[strange nebula]

oh no you got triggered

[mighty mountain]

？？？

[orchid wave]

尝试的第一场 打得我怀疑人生 🤣🤣

[graceful kiln]

[thick tiger]

what servers do you all play on?

[lusty flume]

are you lumi? i need help i started new main and idk how to play lumi. any help will be nice

[strange nebula]

since you are new my advice is start a new character and delete the lumi 🙂

[lusty flume]

im not new i just want to start Lumi as a side

[lost sundial]

not much to say prior 200, just as any other character, try to level as fast as you can

a simple AB wheel would be enough with lvl 150 / 170 hyper, reflection, morning star is enough..
if you battle to one shot you can add ender.. keep that and after lvl 200 its when fun starts, although currently it needs some changes as you can read above ^, but IMO still a good class if you like it.

[spiral hull]

Can someone make me a skill wheel

For lumi ab

[hazy frost]

Should we push more qol / suggestion befor the july's update ?

[quartz flume]

does the qol even works though

[hazy frost]

I dont know
But we have to do smt ..

We had big wave if lumis posting there right after the v4 update
now that there's new updtae coming,
we should put it back on the front

[quartz flume]

maybe just bump someone's lumi feedback and everyone likes it, hopefully it gets answered

[hazy frost]

Sure , can you ?

[pseudo viper]

I mean, I requested for hold down skills not long ago, and it happened

[quartz flume]

hopefully they seen your feedback, and have rebump it up

[lost sundial]

you can try to submits a Bug Report --> Gameplay , through the Customer support portal at the app, I believe thats the best way to actually submit requests

[quartz flume]

u guys can try send in report via in-game see if u get different response

[vapid harbor]

Hi everyone, would anyone mind sharing their training wheel or bossing wheel for lumi with me? I am currently trying to main a luminous. I am also wondering what are some skills to max first for the v matrix and in what order? Any advice would be appreciated! Thank you!

[quaint maple]

Were lumi ever buffed again since they got hard nerfed?

[hazy frost]

same answer, word by word

[quartz flume]

Seems like a template reply, not sure will it be answered in upcoming patches sad to say

[hazy frost]

❤️‍🩹

[hazy frost]

I got told that v4 on ark bug, will be fixed next update
link to the issued bug
#msm-bug-report message

[quartz flume]

Let's see next week patch notes, probably since post v4 update, they might be collecting feedback and bugs

[hazy frost]

Improved soon in a future patch ,
🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[quartz flume]

Can be months or so since mention futue patch😅😅

[lilac wyvern]

Finally lvl 200🥳 could really use some tips/help with Arcane/Matrix It's my first character to reach lvl 200, so it is all new to me😅🙃

[quartz flume]

A fix has been made to an issue where the first hit effect of Luminous's Baptism of Light and Darkness displayed as many times as the number of hits, instead of just once.

How is this a bug fix?

[hazy frost]

No more hope

[finite beacon]

What does it mean?

[quartz flume]

Not sure, might be a visual fix or something.

[pseudo viper]

There was never a bug on our v3. This bug fix makes no sense

[quartz flume]

exactly, thought they will fix our v4 not v3 lol

[pseudo viper]

Yea, our v4 hits both towers in ark

I have to remove v4 in ark or go to the other corner even tho i’m aggro

Just tested v3 in fog forest and looks normal

[quartz flume]

got not idea, nexon backend team isnt working hard i guess

guess we need send tickets and spam

[pseudo viper]

And no one ever reported that bug anywhere in the discord

[lost sundial]

Nexon's QA team is end user..

[quartz flume]

just going to submit ingame ticket each week, and everyone just keep sending also, takes effort

and see how it goes

[thick tiger]

Maybe v3 will be one line/hit count now

[hazy frost]

Maybe v3 will be just visual effect

[graceful kiln]

Sounds like they refer to a visual bug

[orchid wave]

It’s not listed in list of known bugs and errors, so as of now there will not be any changes to it

https://forum.nexon.com/MapleStoryMGlobal/board_view?board=2691&thread=2017311

[quartz flume]

Greetings, Mapler!

This is the MapleStory M Support Team.

Thank you for contacting us and for bringing this matter to our attention! We would like to inform you that we're investigating the issue you have reported, and it will be improved soon in a future patch.

Should you have other issues or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Best Regards,
MapleStory M Support Team

Standard replies as usual from in-game bug reporting

[spiral hull]

How long did it take you?

Im 170 atm, going for 200

Sf139

[spiral hull]

1 day later lv174 if anyone was wondering 😂

[worthy violet]

Would someone mind sharing their AB skill wheel?? I read on here a few weeks ago that death sytche was better than ender but now I’m not collecting as much mesos or nodestones at AF510

[pearl solstice]

anybody has a video showcasing all 200 skill

i cano nly find v1 and v2 online...

[mighty mountain]

https://youtu.be/P-wblIKTRNM?si=piEmUa8KnOjMsQqA

Tested able to achieve 43.5k points with 66m mdc

[spiral hull]

Advices on what to do next?

[latent ravine]

Sf168

[spiral hull]

I was thinking more of a detailed instructions 😂

[latent ravine]

What do you mean?

[finite beacon]

Get mythic gear or legendary
Also get your gear to sf168 and look forwards to lvl200

[spiral hull]

Tysm brother! @finite beacon

[spiral hull]

Hit 147 just now

Gonna be way easier to 200 now

How good is lumi end game

[finite beacon]

powerfull

check the link

[sullen cairn]

Which v skills should we prioritize for the free exp nodes? V2 or v4?

[south burrow]

-Find a guild that can help you with cra. get a top and bottom. sf them and replace overall.
-Stop enhancing that earring as you're going to need those unique VL drops to craft a chaos ifia ring
-Mythic weapon and armors
-At your current stage, I'd invest in alts for links, legion, and bring up some alts to also auto battle for the extra mesos. gl

[spiral hull]

Finally a detailed guide! Thank you so much!

[lost sundial]

what should I aim to max first?

[thick tiger]

rip 1k and level them all LOL

[lost sundial]

eventually lol

but what should I do first?

😦

[mighty mountain]

v3>v2>v4>v1

[lost sundial]

Thanks

[thick tiger]

how lumi for lucid lol i just hit af660

[orchid wave]

https://youtu.be/0OVwu5fEkB4?si=cDZ6GEHUZ0on9C6r

Do remember to on sound

[thick tiger]

Ty!

[quartz flume]

@spice lion Hi CM, not sure if your able to inform the Nexon development team on this bug? We have report via in-game support ticket, discord channel but seems no fix on this roll out, rather seeing other classes getting their fixes.
Hope it gets answered very soon.

[hazy frost]

#msm-bug-report message post on Bug-report thread ,Kira marked the skill detail

[hazy frost]

#msm-feedback-qol message Matt's take on lumi

feel free to upvote if agree

[quartz flume]

already upvoted

[dusty dagger]

This class is amazing

What should I buff in hyper skills?

Should I do Ender hit count or reflection

[quartz flume]

@spice lion Could you take the feedback on this promptly?

[thick tiger]

It will be months before its implemented

From when they see it

[spice lion]

I've already included in my report back on Wednesday~

but also regarding the "bug", I'll try asking about it but I think sheepey might've already mentioned earlier that "single target" doesn't necessarily mean it'll prioritize bosses because the skill description would mention it. so rather than a bug, it'd be a change to the skill itself which I believe is what Matt is asking for

[lost sundial]

To max out a Matrix trio you need 54 enhancements.. is it the same for skills?

[quartz flume]

hmm because for the luminous v4, just dont make any sense and should be reviewed urgently and push for it. Hope you could understand the frustrations for us since post v4 release.
and not sure your screenshot is related to luminous class itself as its a very different description.

[solar rover]

she's trying to say that if lumi v4 was supposed to target bosses, it would have similar wording like that NL v skill. Hence, the change to the lumi skill would not count as a bug report, but rather a suggestion to change it to only target bosses if one is present within range

and also, her power is limited to sending feedback to the devs, and when they want to implement it is really up to the dev team

from experience, they normally follow what kmsm feeds down, so expect some changes within a few months, but it won't be immediate

[quartz flume]

i see, understand.

[solar rover]

funnily enough, PC version does have it

[quartz flume]

why does it sound kmsm is also having similar bug (?).
But from impression, thought the management of kmsm and gmsm is different since the game mechanics etc are not the same. If have to come from kmsm for decision making etc, then like mention have to wait for months, which is quite unacceptable since we dont follow directly under kmsm like patch notes as example or even rebalances to class skills. Just hope its look into as priority for a rework or something.

[orchid wave]

This would be lovely as I play both classes myself, NL and Luminous, and the difference is pretty impactful. One line of skill description on how the skill works can affect the dmg output of the class itself. Understandable that the luminous V4 skill might be intended this way but it’s kinda pointless if more than half of the orbs are hitting towers/ minions instead of the boss itself. Nevertheless, thank you for including it into your report, which hopefully it will be changed to the same as NL’s one.

[hazy frost]

No fix / adjustment for v4

[quartz flume]

well, not sure will it be heard and adjustments to be made, its nexon.

[hazy frost]

Its even worse
when they say , it was intended

class killers

[quartz flume]

nexon never fails to disappoint to kill classes

[quartz topaz]

Even more angry, when our class is the only one get nerf hard on V4 release while other class get buff overall. What a way to go. When from barely top, now in the dirt.

[sullen falcon]

yeah, losing in dps against Chaos weapons when I have necro weapon....

[onyx steppe]

you forgot Sia ?

[quartz topaz]

Kinda forgot lol, both being mage

[unkempt axle]

Is this still relevant? Sharp eye, speed infusion, hb needed?

[unkempt axle]

Hii can anyone share the v-matrix for luminous oleasee.

[spiral hull]

Yess +1

[quartz topaz]

My current matrix

[latent ravine]

Ethereal form gives passive now

[unkempt axle]

Thanks guys!!!

[unkempt axle]

Is the skill boost one for id and ba?

[finite beacon]

Id means?

[dusty dagger]

What’s the passive effect?

[candid notch]

https://youtu.be/zrsMwHZuJ6A?si=LYC6RRkup-f604Ip

[latent ravine]

Mdmg increase

[dusty dagger]

Cool stuff will be useful for my lumi farmer

[dull flicker]

What a good skill wheel for abing post 200?

[unkempt axle]

Ah so ethereal form should be in matrix by default just for thr passive right?

[latent ravine]

It’s an active skill

Situationally useful for bosses

[lost sundial]

hello!

is the emblem ratio still 3BA / 5 CD?

[toxic fable]

I have 4ba 4cd, it works great

[toxic fable]

this would work too

[lost sundial]

okay thank 😄

[finite beacon]

I’m using this too

[lost sundial]

interesting..
currently I have
CD on my Hat, WEP, Belt and Shoulder..
and BA on my Glove,Cape and Shoes..

would it worth taking a necro suit with BA isntead of CD?

[finite beacon]

What about your secondary weapon?

[oak kelp]

Any one can share their skill wheel settings? Asking on behalf of a friend playing lumi

[thick tiger]

Emblem cd/ba doesnt really matter its what u have total

[latent ravine]

Scroll up and watch any of the videos shared here

[lost sundial]

currently legendary with phy stt 😅 gonna swap it for a mag dmg one

[lost sundial]

but theres like a base isnt it?

[dusty dagger]

Which v skills are essential for a farmer lumi?

[finite beacon]

It’s not really matter
But you can make your legendary weapon with ba emblem and you complete 4/4 set emblem

[thick tiger]

i would try to shoot for like 200% BA and 500% CD

with the new legion it should be easier to get

it really depends on the amount of money adn time you want to spend

[lost sundial]

buffed?

I already did my estimation on the new legion boost.. I need more archers tho 😅

[dusty dagger]

?

[lost sundial]

V1 and v4

[dusty dagger]

V2 V3 not needed?

[lost sundial]

For mobbing I don’t see them necessary

[quartz flume]

Thought v4 is more for bossing?

[lost sundial]

Well when you are in equilibrium there are those spheres that will fly by and kills random monsters, you set it up at the pets auto buffs

And I’m not saying it is not needed for bossing

[quartz flume]

Oh I see

[thick tiger]

Unbuffed

[lost sundial]

Thanks! That clarifies more the path

[thick tiger]

tbh - take your time

i would prioritize leveling to like 230

who knows what you need after next week's patch

[spiral hull]

What is happening in next weeks patch

[dusty dagger]

Exp cap increase, couple other stuff

[lost sundial]

currently 227, so almost there!

[dusty dagger]

V2 is horrible, V1 is amazing

[quartz topaz]

No lumi fix, truly abandoned.

[spiral hull]

Which V skill do i keep

And which ones do i extract

[dusty dagger]

Farmer Lumi?

Only need V1 for farming and V4 if you want

[lean falcon]

https://youtu.be/zHkmSLQlUQA?si=Wk5iN9vR6TnIzV38

my normal Damien clear run!

I activated ft super late in p2

[mortal holly]

Hello everyone! I’m a fresh level 200 lumi. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few things including training/bossing wheels, plus this whole vmatrix thing? It’s my first character I’ve had at level 200+, and maybe a little advice on how to progress afterwards since I’m relatively new to this. I need a sensei. lol feel free to DM me. I’ll post a few pics of what I currently have .

If you require a picture of something else to better help me, feel free to ask, I won’t mind posting whatever you need.

[lost sundial]

Hi al!
need an advice with link skills..
currently I have the ones on black square and black line... each skill at lvl2.

would that be okay? or should I Swap something else? maybe Ark for Kaiser to get a little more hp.

thanks in advance!

[atomic tide]

91k OP

[candid notch]

我靠

[orchid wave]

极限了 ~ 问错人 XD

[orchid wave]

41.79

[candid notch]

强到离谱

[orchid wave]

对 70.8

[rich vigil]

Hi guys. What is the best emblem for lumi's secondary weapon? Is magic damage correct?

[cobalt lily]

yes

[rich vigil]

Thanks!

[charred basalt]

hey guys. what’s the optimum AB wheel using equilibrium pre 200? could anyone share pls

[placid sky]

Morning star alone is enough to push you back to the light? No need for apocalypse?

[orchid wave]

Apo has a relatively slow casting delay thus not recommended for ab, Morningstar will suffice

[sinful iron]

Is this class this popular and good in terms of f2p and dmg

[plain swift]

Yes

[full solstice]

Yo guys

Can someone share me their ab wheels for lumi with all 4 v skills unlocked pls

Also share macros if have

Thx guys

[finite beacon]

check this

[full solstice]

I need ab wheel 😦

[full solstice]

Hi guys

Can anyone tell me what hyper skill i should lvl for lumi?

I have 3 pts for ender and idk where to spend the other 2

I’m focused on bossing

[finite beacon]

#1059994756891033720 message

[full solstice]

Thank you sir, you are the best!

[worthy violet]

Does anyone know how to avoid the stun like that?

[nocturne turret]

ACP

[orchid wave]

Full buff + IED event buff, No BR & guild food buff

[candid notch]

我靠

[atomic tide]

Op guys well done

[candid notch]

我71.5 40%无视才8万4

[orchid wave]

万能水敢敢点

[quartz flume]

Only works in new boss Gloom I guess lol, not very helpful in general usage

[graceful kiln]

At least it's not a nerf! I'll take that

[graceful kiln]

Any Gloom lumi POV yet?

[cobalt lily]

[orchid wave]

是 @candid notch 吧。。

[candid notch]

不敢发 打的贼烂😂

[solar rover]

just save freud for darkness when it's off cd and eform plus stun mobs when its on cd

[crude night]

Hi guys, any idea why my AB not doing the light and dark correctly? It’s casting randomly and not according to the light/dark - casting apo when it’s dark

[orchid wave]

It’s never according to light/ dark and apo shouldn’t even exist in your AB skill wheel

[quartz flume]

can i ask what skill point u put for your hyper?

[orchid wave]

15789

[crude night]

How do you charge up dark without apo tho?

[orchid wave]

Morningstar

[crude night]

Do you mind sharing with me your AB and bossing wheels? Thanks !🙏

[dusty dagger]

Don’t use apocalypse, use reflection morning star and Ender

[latent ravine]

Just scroll up

[tardy cairn]

Good question, how much HP can Demian get normally?

[finite beacon]

319B

hard Demian with also 319B

[quartz flume]

Not sure but this new QOL, can see light and dark circle easily now I guess

[cobalt lily]

this is v4特效

[quartz flume]

Oh. Before patch, never see this thing. It was here all along or?

[quartz flume]

Oh, is that better actually? Seems to be an improvement.
这算是好不好？

[orchid wave]

@river cedar For this I feel it’s a pretty good change . It might be weird at first and takes time to get used to it, but in most cases if you’re doing it correctly, once first v3 is proc, DS4 should proc at the same time as well. In a way it saves me the time to actually use v1/v2 to go into equilibrium state.

Normally after V3, we aim to go into equilibrium asap to be able to use v3 again right, so why the need to hold off charging equilibrium , v3, charge till full , enter equilibrium and use again? When you can just tap v3 , auto enter equilibrium , use it again immediately followed up by v1/v2?

[quartz flume]

i think now being v3 able to cast to enter equilibrium, then cast again, use ender till v3 CD done. Feel not too bad, i feel the casting better now, then later we forget to cast v3 before equilibrium comes in, then that is wasted

just that now need to see if our v3 is ready to cast, then could use to enter equilibrium and use again in a way

correct me if im wrong.

[river cedar]

For me the quirk comes in a few occasions

1. SC stage 5 I throw 1x V3. DS4 not proc. Stage 6 I’d throw 1x Armageddon to bind and then activate Equilibrium (proc DS4 at this point).

2. HDamien 2nd phase at the start. You tele to Damien, throw off 1x V3, and fly to the sky when he flies up and charges down. Now you have to not charge fully to throw off this 1x V3

Like 大鬼 share, there are similar occasions where you time V3 just to 过渡, it is irritating now to adjust to this new liberation

[orchid wave]

Yes you can still choose to use v3 right before you go into equilibrium(eg if in dark mode you’re half charge and Morningstar is already being cast but not yet max gauge, while it covers the remaining gauge you can start casting v3, which ultimately brings you back to how things were initially) But all these requires skills, knowledge and eyes on the gauge most of the time to determine to use v3 while not fully charged or use v3 when it’s full

[quartz flume]

Yeah, think more like I need to adjust on how to timely cast v3, but at least now it's part of entering equilibrium.
Overall,I think it might benefit better long term since we can use it better, then forget later 'forget to cast my ready v3' after entering equilibrium.

Just personal opinion

[orchid wave]

@river cedar For Point 1, personal opinion, tried doing that and compared with going into equilibrium state in stage 5 , it’s about the same timing due to casting delay of V3 itself and easier to cycle the skills as well. Thus saving 2x v3 for Stage 6 instead. The score for both diff methods greatly differs by the way.

2. If you skip that and use double V3 instead after he dives, it’s the same effect as the cd isn’t that fast. You are still only able to deal 2x v3 in the cycle , be it using it once before he flys up, using another after he’s back on ground, compared to using twice after he lands.

3. Understand the 过度 part but it’s just imbedded in our muscle memory that v3 doesn’t proc equilibrium automatically. Vice versa if it was implemented right from the start of v3 release and now change to won’t be able to proc automatically, it would be the same kind of weird for luminous players.

[solar rover]

I feel that V3 cast delay has reduced greatly, it makes SC alot easier frankly

[quartz flume]

seems better score from what im seeing?

[atomic tide]

Insane bro

[latent ravine]

大神，摇一次啥意思？

[thick tiger]

it might be related to the bug prior to patch.

Before Patch: If you logged out of character and did things on other when u come back to lumi your equilibrium is set to a neutral state (Not light or Dark). If you clicked V3 it puts you auto into equilbrium and then you can use v3 again.

based on your demo it looks like you can hit v3 and it auto puts you to equilibrum that refreshes v3 again without logging out

what is your rotation for Culvert? when do you hit v4?

[latent ravine]

谢谢大神解释

[quartz flume]

Seems the score is better than previous due to the new changes added? 会比较好玩吗？

[weary moth]

underrated class

more people should play lumi

[thick tiger]

lumi's need a buff

[quartz flume]

sadly, higher IED is more for big spenders who can flame up to mythic nicely, else its not possible to get as semi f2p.

[mental helm]

Any pro lumi gloom pov ?

asking for a friend ❤️

[orchid wave]

@candid notch wait no more

[sudden barn]

how much does luminous change at 200? I’m currently leveling a lumi and it’s at 187 trying to see if I want to invest more into it, but couldn’t find any info about the 200 skills to read on, I’ve only really seen some bossing videos (currently only have a NW at 201 and was going to decide between the two to invest in)

[thick tiger]

its a whole different gameplay. All your powerful spells come around 200ish

[open ember]

Is Lumi a good class?And what are his pros and cons?

Lumi强吗？他有什么优点和缺点？

[open ember]

谢谢

[open ember]

嗯

[sudden barn]

I saw you were a pretty strong lumi, are you able to solo any bosses like CRA? I am curious the dmg it takes

[open ember]

Whats Lumis main boost nodes/trionodes?

[open ember]

谢谢

[thick tiger]

Yea i solo all CRA in like 4-5 min

Probably half as geared as some of the lumis here too

[sudden barn]

what hyper passives did you go? also do you use pensalir/utgard or other bases and jaihin?

that’s sickkkk

[quartz flume]

any can advice should reset additional skill dmg to pump max FDI and MagDI, then put the rest to additional skill dmg?

[wide matrix]

@cobalt lily @open ember Reminder to use English to communicate in this server #server-rules

[cobalt lily]

oh sorry 我几乎不会英文对话
只会透过google translation
我愿意遵守这里的规定
我就不再分享资讯了
避免google translation不正確
造成对话上的误会

[open ember]

Sorry, I thought communicating with him would be easier in Chinese since he mostly speaks Chinese.

[wide matrix]

More than welcome to do that via DM, not here please

[open ember]

Lumi AB wheel pls , ty

[candid notch]

Lmao we are not allowed to use other languages?

什么sb

[solar rover]

I think the issue is that the moderator can’t moderate a language they don’t know, as much as I like DG’s advice

[open ember]

yep

[open ember]

Need a mod that knows chinese

[thick tiger]

just use simplified pinyin lol

[latent ravine]

What if we promise that we will behave ourselves

[open ember]

yeaaaa

[open ember]

@wide matrix

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-cat-work-gif-23725276

[wide matrix]

Not really my place to change the rules. There’s issue with making exceptions too, like Xyfalix said not all mods speak another language besides English. Can’t allow a specific language from particular users, it can’t be applicable to other users

[gentle night]

@wide matrix ask nexon to buff lumi pls

[wide matrix]

I have no expertise in lumi, need pros to bring that up with what to buff n #msm-feedback-qol

[hazy frost]

hello fellas.

does V1 IED applied to all skills while it casted or only to the skills it self ?

with this said , The question I had in mind , which v skill i should max next ,

[open ember]

[orchid wave]

Only V1 itself

[orchid wave]

At the current meta, Luminous itself possess a great potential to excel in almost every game content inclusive of boss contents. Against other classes, it is definitely ranked pretty high. By “buffing” , it might bring forth unnecessary changes, take the recent update of V3 being able to proc equilibrium for example, to some it is a buff, whereas to the remaining it is a nerf, everyone has different perceptions of the term “ buff “ itself. Then again, even with buff it’s usually increasing the hit counts of our skills, which are usually compensated by the skill duration / skill dmg itself in order to have that gain. Definitely there are areas and minor tweaks can be made to overall improve the class, but with decent funding and understanding of the rotation to cycle the skills, it’s definitely a class to be reckon with.

[plush drift]

Can someone share a Skill wheel for AB no pets (pre-200)?

[open ember]

Reflection,Apo,Death scythe

use level 150 skill if u have it

[plush drift]

Awesome, thank you. 😀

[open ember]

np

[worthy violet]

Which is better?? Level 240

[open ember]

isnt cd always better?

[worthy violet]

I thought so but some people said HP is important for late game boss

[latent ravine]

Yes it is but I have cd on my weapon though

But if you’re missing that last 2k hp for hard Damien for example, I reckon u should take the hp

[open ember]

yes

[orchid wave]

Definitely left , and choice cube the last line, don’t go for HP% on weapons

[open ember]

yea

[sudden barn]

@orchid wave do you mind if I dm you some questions?

[orchid wave]

Is it in other language other than English

[sudden barn]

nope english

[open ember]

[orchid wave]

Go ahead ~

[gentle night]

Reduce time it takes for skills to activate takes me 3-4 seconds to use all v skills 😩

[orchid wave]

Casting delay or animation exists for every job skills out there, just a matter of fast or slow

[sudden barn]

Is there a specific skill order to use, or should I press gate of light, baptism, armageddon all on cooldown??

[brisk galleon]

Is there a bug where u can’t jump randomly in bosses or waiting room?

[thick tiger]

Wow u have a lumi alt too

[thick tiger]

i heard Lumi has an advantage for Gloom something about the darkness phase. Can someone help me understand what that is?

[sullen falcon]

Because Lumi innately is immune to the darkness status condition

[orchid wave]

This is luminous view in the darkness

As compared to other classes

[thick tiger]

Ojhh wow ty!

[lilac wyvern]

How much is this usually worth?😅 Scania

[latent ravine]

Worth as much as the amount that a person would pay to obtain such item

In all seriousness

You need to at least mention your server

[worthy violet]

Not much. It doesn’t have anything going for it besides boss emblem. Whoever buys it is gonna have to spend a ton of resources fixing it. Not worth the headache since it’s been cut multiple times too.

[thick tiger]

@orchid wave can i see your wheel and presets?

I dont feel in outputting well based on stats

[gusty jackal]

Curious if there is any lumi around that could help me out with a lil advice when they get a chance feeling a little lost and could use a helping hand 😅

[hazy frost]

Can you be more specific ?

[gleaming storm]

is luminous good for survivability in bossing bcuz it has passive heals and a party heal skill?

[thick tiger]

We have a party heal skill?

[gleaming storm]

its like a lvl 60 skill

[thick tiger]

Omgg i can be a bishop too

[gleaming storm]

is it even worth using tho is the real question

[latent ravine]

No probably

Good survives well in bosses but not because of heals

It’s because our blink has a short iframe

[hazy frost]

What should I focus on next ? Maxing maple blessing buff or maybe sharpe eyes for passives ?

[rustic shadow]

get a 3rd tri-node to max out your reflection/apoc

[hazy frost]

I have this one and usually use it only when farming .. when I'm bossing , I swap it to get an extra buff , Do you think maxing reflection/apoc is important ? when I last checked my battle analysis ,the dmg of them both combined, was about 2.5~4% of the total dmg , (5min + boss battle )

I will have an extra block very soon , maybe , I Can use an extra trio to free up the x5 enhancements points on the trios > to other buffs

[quartz flume]

https://forum.nexon.com/MapleStoryMGlobal/board_view?board=2702&thread=2781126

Let's hope we shine better

[gusty jackal]

Or our light gets completely snuffed out 😅

[quartz flume]

First thought could be add numerous lines, less CD for our vmatrix skills, while taking back some dmg %

[thick tiger]

Prayyy

[strange hill]

Does anyone have a pic of perfect nodes or tri nodes pair

[thick tiger]

whose excuted for the lumi rebalancing 🙂

i hope tsukki gives us good news

[gusty jackal]

Genuinely nervous, feel like I’ve just started making gains with my lumi and working on nodes etc, hopefully it’s just some nice buffs tho or more lines haha

[thick tiger]

i hope it's an overall buff

they buffed and nerfed us last big overhaul

[gusty jackal]

Meant to ask any recommendations on what to level next symbol wise? Usually switch out rope lift for goddess blessing during bossing, any help is massively appreciated

[thick tiger]

Ur missing a second reflection trinode

Open up the next three. I dont think u need manaoverload

Get freud wisdom

I would concentrate on lvls too so u get will node

[hazy frost]

we talked about it not too long agi

i think scrolling here will provide you alot of information

@gusty jackal

[gusty jackal]

Oh shoot appreciate that @hazy frost had completely forgot about that, stressed out at work n had a brain death moment

[hazy frost]

No worries bro
We are all here to help each other and make lumi shine again 🫶🏼✅

[thick tiger]

Im nervous of the extra rebalance we are getting

[gusty jackal]

I’ve not seen lumi past say lotus, how strong are we as a class compared to the rest? Should we be very nervous 👀

[thick tiger]

We are pretty weak imo

Our timings all outta sync compared to other classes

[hazy frost]

Only thing I wish for is more consistent dmg -> skill/combo/charging based class like lumi should be more credited based on that . Period.
I REALLY loved the old lumi combo when we had the perfect combo timing and everything was aligned justtt on point ( if you had v skills maxed ofc🙃)
I don't 30 sec iframe
I don't want 1 tap 5000 lines skill and tbh , I don't want the 1st dps spot ...
THE ONLY thing I want is to have the excitement of seen my v3 ready at the exact millisecond My v2 is back so I can proke it back again into equilibrium like good old days
My wish is that 1 developer mained lumi and miss it like I do 😂

[thick tiger]

Its not really a 30 sec iframe lol

Id actually would like one big dps skills every two min so we can compete in 1 min runs lol

[lean falcon]

Does anyone feel like we got nerfed again?

V4 got nerfed and getting into equilibrium seems like it got nerfed. I may be understanding it wrong.

[cloud birch]

charging to get equi is gonnna take longer but longer time in equi

idk how much that will change

[lean falcon]

Overall though, if it takes an extra 4-5 sec to get into equilibrium, then the extra 5 sec in equilibrium is just offset. It doesn’t seem like a net buff. Seems like an overall nerf on that end since our problem is getting into equil from reflect.

All the acquired charges were nerfed.

Recharging on blue already takes like 10-15 sec.

Now 15-20 sec

[cloud birch]

yeah thats what im thinking, the duration increase isn't gonna do much if it takes longer to reach equi

[lean falcon]

Good buff for early lumi players in terms of dmg stats.
End game lumi getting a fat nerf again it seems.
I’m already capping easily so more damage wasn’t going to help me.
Utility was what I was hoping for.

I hate that rotating my skills takes like 5 sec before I even start doing dmg with ender

[cloud birch]

if only they didn't make it more difficult to reach equilibrium

[lean falcon]

They hit us hard last time idk why they’d adjust us again in this negative way.

If overall equinox extended 10, it’s not as helpful if the down downtime is 10-20 seconds more

[quartz flume]

so we got 5sec more in equil

[cloud birch]

but who knows how long more to get to equi

[lean falcon]

Yeah but the time it takes to get there takes longer

[quartz flume]

but 1st column is current, 2nd column is new, lesser number means faster charge no?

[lean falcon]

So it’ll take us 40% longer than before for reflection.
It would take about 10 seconds before now it’ll be 14 seconds

[quartz flume]

we use apo/morning star to charge, and reflection. Unless my understanding is wrong.

[cloud birch]

from what i understand, higher value means higher recharge = faster to equi

[lean falcon]

^

[quartz flume]

dont know the single value means

[lean falcon]

Let’s say we need 20 ttl value from reflection before our gauge is filled. Before each will fill the gauge 5. Now it’ll fill the gauge with 3. So instead off 4 attacks it’ll be 7 now. For example

We have more down time with blue. Slightly more with black bc we had two forms of charging with apoc and morning star.

[cloud birch]

its gonna take so long to charge with reflection oh my god the pain

[lean falcon]

Yep, dmg wise overall we got a buff. But god damn why’d they have to mess with his mechanics with equilibrium. They should’ve adjusted the awful skill speed

[cloud birch]

the damage buff is okay but it isn't gonna do much tbh

[lean falcon]

Yeah, lumi is def dead

Who ever decided these numbers/adjustments were good are cooked

[cloud birch]

just waiting for the actual patch to see how things change

and i was hoping they increase v2 duration............

[lean falcon]

V1 needs a huge needed buff. Seems like it doesn’t do much for me

Yeah agree for duration

[cloud birch]

yeah i feel like v1 is just for ab and thats it

[candid notch]

We are screwed

Gg

[cloud birch]

when haven't we

[candid notch]

16 times reflection needed to charge gauge fully. Based on the number given, reflection gauge point reduced to 3 from 5. 16x5 = 80 ,80/3= 27

[lean falcon]

We’ll see how it ultimately feels when the patch comes out

[candid notch]

You need to use 27 reflection to get fully charged after patch

Lol

[cloud birch]

oh my god

[lean falcon]

Bro

I’d rather they left our class out of the rebalance

https://tenor.com/view/dis-tew-much-tew-much-too-much-cant-nope-gif-5433684

[candid notch]

Apocalypse used to be 5 now u need to use it 12-13 times

Just quit Lumi brothers

[thick tiger]

did they just revert it back to the original values

[lean falcon]

Nope, I think this is the first time they adjusted values to get into ender

Before m star didn’t give guage points so when they added that it did, it was a huge. We had very little down time.

[thick tiger]

nahhh it was alot longer before

i started lumi no launch lol

[lean falcon]

Me too

[cloud birch]

they did change it once to recharge faster

[lean falcon]

Incouldve sworn its been the same and the only thing that change was m star

Ooooof

Mb i dont remeber that

[thick tiger]

im trying to figure out if the passive sunfire/eclide skill dmg decrease is offset by all the MAG DMG increases we got

[lean falcon]

Equil is gonna be saved for blue

Only way it would’ve would be to increase the hit count if your capping no?

[cloud birch]

27 reflections. please help.

[lean falcon]

I think in the grand scheme it’ll only affect dam and onward. If partys are able to clear fast phases then theoretically the “longer” equilibrium won’t run out before phase change.

[thick tiger]

whats the gauge value

again 50 o?

lol

[lean falcon]

If we slow af then yeah it’s gonna be a torture getting back in

Charge dark for 25 sec, then hit equil for 15 more sec?

Or did they not touch the natural equil time ?

[thick tiger]

its 40% longer to charge based on values and 50% more uptime in equi

[cloud birch]

normal is 25 secs, equilize is 15secs after patch

[thick tiger]

not sure how that translate

[lean falcon]

As long as burst is fast enough then I think we shouldn’t be in downtime for too much. Charge during phase transition

[hollow goblet]

Anyone has recent lumi pov from kmsm to understand whether the changes are similar to theirs, therefore have a better understanding of the rebalance?

[candid notch]

Current Lumi in kmsm take 15s to be fully charged during light mode

Dark mode 10s

[cloud birch]

OH MY GOD

[candid notch]

It takes about 10s for 16 reflections in gmsm

[lean falcon]

Idk who their target nerf audience was. I’ve only seen like 3 lumis in endgame stuff and were always 7-10 in the charts

Right above sia bish

[candid notch]

So i guess it will be 15s for us as well in gmsm

[lean falcon]

Sounds about right

People still play lumi in kmsm?

[cloud birch]

im surprised people still play lumi in general

[candid notch]

[thick tiger]

i mean your not bursting 24/7 during boss runs like damien/gloom/will

[cloud birch]

but the reflection spam to get to equilibrium is a nightmare

[thick tiger]

ur only doing it once like every minute or 2 i think

idk maybe it aligns better with the v2 timer now?

[cloud birch]

i think it should align better with v2

[sudden barn]

The changes are a big nerf?

[lean falcon]

Qol nerf more like

[candid notch]

Not a nerf not a buff

[cloud birch]

it's a buff if you can't cap

[candid notch]

Eventually it’s nothing as u get stronger

They need to get rid of Lumi skill delay

Sigh

Imagining u used 27 reflections and finally reached equilibrium, u still need extra few seconds to release ur skills

[gentle night]

Smh does longer equil let us get more v3s out?

[cloud birch]

can you really get one extra v3 with 5 extra seconds?

[thick tiger]

omg i didn't even think about that

our v3 got passively nerfed LMAO

[gentle night]

Garbage rebalance once again

[cloud birch]

but now the 27 reflections do more damage if you aren't capping

[thick tiger]

that damage is usually on the bottom LOL i never look at it

[candid notch]

Go test ur lines now

Test again after patch

Hopefully we get some good numbers

[gentle night]

Does equil increase apply to 150 skill?

[cloud birch]

yes

[hazy frost]

I hate it .. more charging time on both light and dark mode ?
yaichs

does the +5s equaibrium will help the rotation?

if im not mistaken
I really wanted them to add 5 second
I don't remember why , but i think its good for us

but again more charge time , i want to cry

[thick tiger]

i mean they gave us free MDC LOL

had to take away somewhere

[orchid wave]

See you in battle mage

https://tenor.com/view/crying-fun-gif-20101378

[orchid wave]

Your next VOM can include Morningstar to charge both light and dark gauge

[sullen falcon]

FML what is this

Everyone buff we Lumi somehow got nerfed

[cloud birch]

its lumi afterall. there will never be a buff

[thick tiger]

Kinesis got a big boof

[hazy frost]

3rd nerf

ark also i belive big buff

[thick tiger]

Yea

[candid notch]

[worthy violet]

Man we always get screwed

[lean falcon]

Omg it’s as bad as we thought

[quartz flume]

Anyone doing a test run from the current patch for comparison?

[worthy violet]

Omg charging takes forever😭😭😭😭

[thick tiger]

Lol throwback charging

[lost sundial]

I counted 26 reflections to charge

[gentle night]

Its soooo badddddd

[uneven copper]

painful

[lean falcon]

getting in from dark isnt too bad

reflection is god awful

[uneven copper]

3-5 business days using reflection

[quartz flume]

Taking a chill pill 💊

[hazy frost]

Hypers for charging dark mode

hypers for charging light mode ? 😂
nexon pls

[sullen falcon]

god charging from light is so awful

[quartz flume]

Probably someone needs feedback to them to revert at least for our light charging to equilibrium, but later take back our 5s XD

[latent ravine]

Let’s at least do one week of bosses and see what’s up

At least from what I think it won’t be too bad in damien

We can always charge on the left side kek

[thick tiger]

Wats kmsm charge for reflect lol

[latent ravine]

But I think the 5s increase in equilibrium state actually gives an extra v3 cast every time including equalise

But yes charging blue is indeed hell

[thick tiger]

Yea… it does it meets perfectly to hit equilize and hit another v3 for rotatation

[cloud birch]

reflection main dps skill now

[candid notch]

https://youtu.be/sGK49tfAnZM?si=q6b9AvZi2F4HcZeN

[quartz flume]

Pro, only need 2 ppl to down boss

[cloud birch]

[quartz flume]

is it better than previous patch and your new best?

[lean falcon]

My dmg is higher with the cap increase but it just feels so bad

[sullen falcon]

It feels rather sluggish right?

I went daily bossing solo because I couldn't join my fixed pt today. I kill bosses way faster, but I feel so sluggish charging up to equilibrium

[lost sundial]

^ same , I mean im not a pro in anyway.. but the bosses I did cleared them so much faster, my Forest trining got a much better results as well.

[latent ravine]

Need some time to get use to the 5s extra for me

[latent ravine]

Are we taking this though?

[hazy frost]

the dark light recharge?
I's assume yea , im using it for along time
I was scrolling in the skills description and saw on the hyper passive that we have it
i was wondering if they will ever make recharge passive for the light modeit because it would make sense to me 🙃

[lost sundial]

I have had it as well for long time and it does make even more sense now

[hazy frost]

absolutely, now more than ever

trying mix and match 2nd light skill worth a shot?
a preset to light mode might make it charge faster ?

[lost sundial]

filling the gauge in dark mode with recharge takes 10s. and as long as you use equalize to avoid light mode it seems to be fine.

and you will be a lot of time at equilibrium

[hazy frost]

i mentioned it here
i think previous nerf we had a talking about our update compare to korean server
they had similar change but longer equilibrium duration ,
additional duration means more v3's

[hazy frost]

Agree , the equalizer is a key component in my combo

when it was on cooldown i usully use freud's wisdoms and spammed lightning to charge 😂
its 10 sec iframe if im not mistaken
not enough to get away from it anymore 😭

[thick tiger]

Which skill do we sub in for light now? Sylvan?

[candid notch]

Never

Still reflection

[thick tiger]

Big pp

[hazy frost]

Big dd

https://tenor.com/view/hotdog-slap-raining-hotdogs-gif-16065848

[thick tiger]

you mean xiao DD

[candid notch]

Please go support the feedback guys need to do something

Lumi gets nerfed every single time they do rebalance

[gentle night]

@candid notch did we get nerfed again in kms?

[candid notch]

That’s what I heard from a lumi Line group chat lol

[gentle night]

Smh hate nexon

[candid notch]

[candid notch]

Keep playing but stop spending on packages

[gentle night]

spamming the feedback thread ✌️

[thick tiger]

dang u must have nothing else you need to spend on 🙂

maxed out lumi bahaha

[quartz flume]

kms got changes to lumi recently?

[candid notch]

Maxed out Lumi becomes a laughstick now?

[thick tiger]

Nah was referencing the not spending on packages comment. Nothing to spend if you are maxed in everything 😇

[cobalt lily]

110m / 41% / 50ty

[cobalt lily]

2 mins hit 15434 (use v4 once)

[quartz flume]

do you feel better after the latest rebalance patch or before? It looks decent

[hollow goblet]

Will skill shouldnt be included in the total count

[thick tiger]

it feels really clunky the game play cause we have to charge to equi to really do damage

you can aliign it easily in the training grounds but it doesn't work well in real boss fights

[cobalt lily]

1 min hit

[thick tiger]

My pp smol compared to these whales

Traditional?

[sullen falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[quartz flume]

is there patch notes to anticipate it coming to global msm

[cobalt lily]

My friends and I compiled some data and found that after rebalancing, lumi is nerfed, regardless of bossing or SC

ps. because we can’t type chinese here, this is translated by a friend

[cobalt lily]

okay -635

[quartz flume]

Understand about the translation.

Gg why each time got rebalance, we are nerfed. The additional 5sec didn't help much looking at this.

And our last hope is 6th job release

[cobalt lily]

This is a good question
I don't know why Lumi has been nerfed🤷‍♂️

[quartz flume]

if the charging wasnt affected, think its all good but they just want touch it, and added % boost on other skills didnt much help i feel.

Just got to bite till 6th job comes, or one more changes which i hope feedback is well taken from QoL for all lumi's.

[hazy frost]

THE +5 equilibrium duration had to be implemented in the previous rebalance ,. the extra charging time is just a poke in the eye , they're obviously don't know how lumi works or the worse option , they just don't care

it had nothing to do with rebalance , this is just annoying tbh

[latent ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[thick tiger]

Do anyone use the hyperskill for extra ender target lol?

[candid notch]

It’s useless unless u care about ghb

[uncut gulch]

Good morning nay i ask for Lumi hyper passive skills please?

[sullen falcon]

apoc recharge, apoc and reflection reinforce, ender reinforce and crit dmg personally

[uncut gulch]

Tyvm really appriciate

[brisk galleon]

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[thick tiger]

.

[hollow goblet]

Did all lumis quit already?

[thick tiger]

In process i believe. No point in investing in a class who cant compete currently and have further nerfs

[naive swallow]

Should I start moving all my armor to a bishop? Im a f2p lol

Or just start over and maybe necro attempts on my Erel?

[thick tiger]

bishop prolly has better use than lumi at this point

they're probably stronger with v skills too

[split zodiac]

What’s the issue when it comes to luminous? I quite enjoy mine?

[thick tiger]

IMO it's the charging time

its too long

especially in light skill

its very clunky when ur doing bosses that have a burst period

[naive swallow]

The charge time in light mode is like triple what it used to be

[thick tiger]

lik ein gloom

when the eye open

if im not waiting for it when in light charge to hit equilbirum

i miss the burst cycle

[quartz flume]

only can hope when 6th job skills and mastery cores come to balance things out

[thick tiger]

our 6th job is supposedly bad too LOL

[quartz flume]

i kind of saw the patch notes (PC) for 6th job and mastery cores 3rd and 4th, think we dont have much added benefit, rather we might be a 'loser' in the updates when it comes.
not sure to really move to another class at this stage, was actually considering ILM or FPM

[sullen falcon]

Because kms nerfed Lumi for no reason at all even when they are quite low in dps chart iirc

[quartz flume]

Just weird why if not under the top 5 chart in DPS, tweaking it doesn't make any sense. To add the class is already underwhelming since adjusting the GOL duration after it's release, and continue downwards despite feedback

[sick carbon]

he guys, im returning in this game. And have a lv165 lumi, you guys have any guide on what skills/presets to put in my bar? Cant find any recent ones.

[atomic tide]

Reroll

You still young

[thick tiger]

Agreed with ron lol

[sick carbon]

lawl, any advise on who? Or anything better than lumi?

[thick tiger]

Depends what content u wanna do

Bisjop is nice

[thick tiger]

Fyi i was in a harchon run with a lumi and kinesis with similar stats and mdc. The kinesis did 20% more damage and both had echo/sancro so basd on that should be telling how bad lumi state is now

[sullen falcon]

any class is better than Lumi

We are in the dumpster rn with our clunky charging time

[quartz flume]

was thinking to RR to either fpm or ilm, still thinking which is better. But my lumi is 237, seems hard training if to RR but for the skills and playstyle, need lots of retraining.
One has alot of trio nodes to work on, another is lesser. But not sure but fpm community is small

[sullen falcon]

I also 237 rn with a lot effort put in. But since I am already in this sinkhole for too long and developed Stockholm syndrome as a result, I probably can't rr.

Plus my best eq is my weapon.

[quartz flume]

i see, and that is quite true when char is like 230+ already

[thick tiger]

lol mines 246 😦

at least i cut down spedning alot on thsi game since there isn't a point to progress

what is the point in progressing/buying packages for exalts when your character at the same stats and efficient play does 20% less damage than another mage

[quartz flume]

yeah agree, unless something major comes for the class which unlikely will anytime in the future, due for remaster

[atomic tide]

Same issue but lvl 255 so i stuck for good

[thick tiger]

how are ya'll Sharenian Culvert scores?

idk if im playing it right in SC 😦

55k w/ 63mdc

[thick tiger]

😦 but ur the lumi god of NA Scania

[cobalt lily]

i 110m 141k 41%ied

Levels will also affect scores

Before the patch was 58.8m 32.8%ied 68k (January 13, 2024)

[thick tiger]

O wow nice yea im at 25% dir

[sullen falcon]

I haven't spent in a while until this update because I bought a single growth package to maintain my m pets with black wonder water of life

[lost sundial]

just completed maxing my v2,v3 and v4...(FINALLY!) but I Was wondering..
is v1 really worth maxing?.
just to understand if I do put effort on doing it asap or keep it smooth leveling

[sullen falcon]

If you maxed the trinodes and main skills, might as well

The other skills to max is Freud’s wisdom, goddess blessing, ethereal form

Other than that, the decent skills only give 0.2% mag dmg per level

[lost sundial]

this is me, atm.

so you say that I should better focus on goddess's and freuds?
rather thana v1?

[dusk coyote]

i was just about to ask what V matrix skill i should prioritize

so the top 4?

also what would be the tri nodes i should focus on

[lost sundial]

About perfect trios

• ender
• reflection
• apocalypse
• morning star
  Extra
• Armageddon or Ray

[lost sundial]

V1 to v4 always aim to max them,
Prioritize imo

• v3
• v2
• v4
• v1

And then that’s were I am exactly, not knowing if I should put effort on maxing v1 or moving to something else.
Just like @sullen falcon was suggestion.

[dusk coyote]

im new to the entire v matrix , how do i tell what my v1 - v4 skills are?

[lost sundial]

On the vmatrix go to craft, skills. The top one from left to right v1-v4

[lost sundial]

On my SS, top 4 from left to right.
V3,v2,v4,v1

[thick tiger]

Why ray?

[quartz flume]

Oh why ray? Is it due to the every 5s CD for healing, rather than damage against boss/mobs for survivability?

[uneven copper]

who uses ray

[tender fulcrum]

WTB shinning rod

[latent ravine]

I thought we should use ray at mu lung for minimum time spent

[quartz flume]

could share your bossing skill wheel?

[thick tiger]

Looks like lumi is getting a buff in kmsm?

[quartz flume]

Is there some sort of update there? Can't find any link

[quartz flume]

Ok I kind of saw the notes, they change the vskills of more hit counts. Saw GOL from 39 hits to 96hits (kind of useless since only in equilibrium mode then can cast once)
Got passive bonus for equalized on/off skill, 15% reduction in phy/mag and remove 1 dmg skill thing
Self recovery from 3% to 1%

[quartz flume]

If anyone is able to translate from Chinese, maybe could post the section of luminous changes in Kmsm

[silk pasture]

It's a Nerf, went from taking 1 dmg from enemies, to decreasse dmg taken by 15%

During balance OC

[quartz flume]

Thinking thought we use to tank 1 dmg (after some self translation), now they remove and change isn't that bad from my understanding

[quartz flume]

OC means?

[silk pasture]

Of course

[quartz flume]

During our equilibrium we take 1 dmg still no change yeah or its kinda no more?

[silk pasture]

No more

Just increasse ur def by 15%

[quartz flume]

Omg that's a huge nerf for us, is this the end

Not sure PC MS don't have it also therefore follow

[silk pasture]

They are nerfing all tanky chars

Like my Da and paladín

[quartz flume]

Oh? Means hitting all chars that have similar tank skills, making it more vulnerable. Means HP and boss def stats now will be the next important stats to look into

But also making all classes to be more 'active' in bossing, if that's what they are trying to do

[silk pasture]

Maybe, but KR and Na have so many diferences, like hp boost and mdc, idk how this Will be implemented in our server, bc Da in KR have massive hp boost from pasives, meanwhile da in our server IS a bit low

[quartz flume]

Oh yea that is true when kmsm mechanics is different from us

[thick tiger]

Ehhh that damage reduc didnt really help in most bosses

More excited for the conduit snd orbs buff

[quartz flume]

Just more hits from what I see

[sullen falcon]

HUH

Why did they just take away one of the good things about Lumi....

And its not like it applies to boss attacks...

Unless it translates to we take 15% less dmg from hp based attacks, this is a big nerf.

[gentle night]

V1 - 96 lines

V2 - 32 lines

V3 - 8-> 10 not sure if ball count or line per ball

[quartz flume]

The vmatrix changes above (not sure when will come to MSM) to add more lines is ok, the part where they change our equilibrium will be hard to swallow, don't know how we will tank the boss dmg given this is our unique class skill

[thick tiger]

i think first umbra in NA Scania was a lumi?

congrats 🙂

[atomic tide]

👀 👀 👀

[candid notch]

It was Adele he hit umbra hat first

Mine second

But first lv70 is a Lumi tho

[thick tiger]

Fiya!

[quartz flume]

Saw from my guild chat that Kanna and Hayato remaster is announced in next TMS showcase, don't know if they are forgetting us

[thick tiger]

Didnt they just release those two not even a year lol

[gentle night]

How many tries?

[candid notch]

2 set

[quartz flume]

Wow gratz

[quartz flume]

Don't mind sharing your setup wheel for bossing? 🙏
Drop a dm to you but think you miss it.

[floral phoenix]

wonder how many tries for umbra and exalt

[plain swift]

hi lumi mains, would you recommend luminous? im choosing between lumi and blaze wizard

[quartz flume]

i came from blaze wizard before, and came back to lumi.
end of day, u need to find the ideal class to play long, thats my take.

[plain swift]

Ok thank you

[thick tiger]

Blaze wizard

U throw balls

[plain swift]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-vergil-smile-vergil-gif-27142542

[cobalt lily]

123.7m
43.38%

[thick tiger]

U have a video?!?

[thick tiger]

Rip lumi #2 with 210 characters lol

[quartz flume]

Yea, don't understand why. We become part of the unwanted class

[cobalt lily]

No

[lost sundial]

whats that?

[candid notch]

https://youtu.be/nxNf1ijj8JY?si=jPNhF-Q840fL2jNB

[cobalt lily]

Congrats

[thick tiger]

wow nice!

[quartz flume]

congrats

[candid notch]

Lumi really needs a buff lmao

[thick tiger]

agreeeeeeed we can only pray

[quartz flume]

can only hope or when 6th job comes towards year end

[atomic tide]

Anyone gonna reroll for lynn?

[quartz flume]

lynn is a support class, wont be great if one is seeking dps in boss rankings from what main chat shares and reviews online.

[candid notch]

Rr Lynn so you can start clearing verus hilla with only 100m cap

Lumi is hopeless in dmg unless you really enjoying it (too deep to rr)

[nocturne turret]

can you elaborate more? im interested coz i saw the v3/4 is like pala's echo/sanc

[quartz flume]

think is more like buffing the main dps i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6nhyhaRzPs

maybe can see this as reference for now till patch notes comes

[cobalt lily]

125m / 43.4% / 50TY+BR

[quartz flume]

nice work. Hope next month class rebalance you can still be 1st place 🙂

[cobalt lily]

No need for next month
I've become 2nd place now 😂

[quartz flume]

least u tried and good effort!

[keen solar]

Can someone help me what should I be maxing next

[keen solar]

What is this skill circle in red

[candid notch]

Skill node from Will

They should be cheap in TS think u need to be lv235 or something to use it

[keen solar]

Oh damn 9 more lvls then 🤦🏽‍♂️

[sullen falcon]

wait, you don't even need to beat will to use it?

[lost sundial]

V2 , and please tide up and organize you vmatrix, 😵‍💫

[lost sundial]

nope, just get the red node from the TS and after lv235 you be able to use it

its like 30m

[keen solar]

What you mean bye organize i mean does it matter how you put them in order? Can I see yours plz

[lost sundial]

No it does not matter how you put them, but visuals, personal preferences tho, like trios together, v1-v4 skills together, support skills, etc,

[keen solar]

Is anyone going to use the job change. Who would you rather play.

[jaunty karma]

Nope that’s 1k to expensive lol

[vestal vigil]

What trio should I get for lumi?

[jaunty karma]

@vestal vigil

[vestal vigil]

Why is death scythe not recommended as one of the extra trios?

Isn’t it good for mobbing?

[thick tiger]

I do the four trios

Relfect/apoc/ender. Scythe/rollingballskill/that aoe stun skill

[jaunty karma]

I don’t use it

I don’t have enough matrix slots either lol

[thick tiger]

if a lumi and pally went head to head in Will or Vhilla -> who would win the dps battle if they had simialr gear/stats

[jaunty karma]

Pally

They nerfed our charge rates and our burst is terrible

[thick tiger]

Thank you for your feedback

[jade yew]

Rr time

[thick tiger]

Rr lynn

[jaunty karma]

Nerf Lynn

[cloud birch]

the selectable state might be a little annoying to get used too

but dammmm..... i dont have to pre-charge now

[quartz flume]

this was what i about to ask, so we need to know what state will we be in?

[cloud birch]

if i understand correctly, it is the pre-select state after you login in

so using reflection enters the dark and apo enters light

so you can pick which ever before entering boss

[thick tiger]

Just hit ender to hit light

[lost sundial]

Exactly what I understand as well, It’s better to start with reflection so it goes into dark mode, it takes less time to charge completely

Then equalize , then dark mode again. It would be until the 4th time that you need to charge light mode this way

[lilac remnant]

Pretty good update for us. Saves so much time not having to charge for every boss

Next step is to get Nexon to lower the # of hits required to hit equilibrium lol

[jaunty karma]

How about getting our lines back from hitting ark towers for no dmg

[jaunty karma]

#justiceforlumiequallib

[wind dagger]

Can someone share their ab wheel set up for me

[jaunty karma]

Uh

This is what I have for ab @wind dagger

[wind dagger]

Lol ty

[jaunty karma]

You’re welcome, you could use redemption of light if you’re dying but as a lumi that doesn’t happen often 😂

[keen solar]

How decent is this.

[jaunty karma]

Use your 3 slot points on gate make it lvl 4 and move your trio to that slot instead of gate slot enhancements on trios is better than it being on a lvl 23 cooldown skill

Actually

You have the wrong trio

@keen solar

[keen solar]

Is my morning star suppose to be maxed you saying

And what's the difference having rope climb max.

[jaunty karma]

Don’t lol

Lvl 1 is all that needs

[jaunty karma]

The circled trio is incorrect

[keen solar]

I see it now. Can't believe i didn't notice that. It may be wrong but have to change 2 in order to fix it.

[jaunty karma]

And the one to the top right the v1 and the circles one should be swapped on their locations to make sure the trio is on a lvl 30

25+5 slot enchancement

Redemption of light is a bad skill for a trio lol

Should be able to take that one and feed it into your last trio at lvl 1 and make it max

Wait click in all 3 trios and show me

[keen solar]

I have only one morning star i got to change 2 and start over i see. I got some buying to do. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[jaunty karma]

At least it’s cheap lol

Once you get the proper trios you will be getting better dmg lol

I use redemption of light only for auto battle , since it heals my party members and myself for 14k hp lol so it doesn’t need to be on matrix lol

[jaunty karma]

Find a perfect trio with ammrageddon at the top

And then feed this one into it

Only one you need to change from why I can tell

[keen solar]

I need two with morning star my other reflection and arm and ender already maxed

Your morning star max in your skills tab is max is it

[jaunty karma]

Find one with apocninstead of redemption

Appoc

Arm, ms,apoc trio would fix it

Wait

[keen solar]

Lol

[jaunty karma]

😣 I see

Really is not other config to use that’s bull nexon

Was trying to mix and match in a way you only need to change one but sheesh

[keen solar]

So I need to change 2

[jaunty karma]

That’s what mine look like on skills page

[keen solar]

Anybody use this

[jaunty karma]

Yes

I use it for bossing

[keen solar]

Ok thr rolling ball is max in need to change 2 then

[jaunty karma]

Yeah it’s crazy how they don’t just let use change the trio skills out to make a perfect

Nodes shouldn’t be rng at this point just give everyone trios at lvl 200

[keen solar]

You didn't max blink yet😂

[jaunty karma]

It don’t need maxed lol

Is just for escaping dmg that is one hit kill

[keen solar]

Like rope climb

[jaunty karma]

Yep

[keen solar]

Can I see your presets

[jaunty karma]

Like my skill presets ?

These? lol

And this my matrix I use for bossing

[keen solar]

Mines

I always use baptism my first skill I press it once and it uses my other 2 buffs automatically then I use Baptism again then I ender

[jaunty karma]

I have my buffs on my pets lol

[vestal vigil]

What r the best buffs I should focus on lvling up for bossing with lumi apart from maple world goddess bless?

[jaunty karma]

Everything you see here is for bossing

Don’t worry about the web skill since you’re not 236 yet so you can’t use it

But everything else you see on that page minus ds4 which is bottom middle since that’s a expiring one

Ethereal is on the second page so it’s not pictured

[vestal vigil]

Thanks. Which buff should I prioritize maxing to get most benefit? Or does it not matter

[jaunty karma]

What do you mean by “buffs”

[naive swallow]

Is it worth spending like 500m to open up two more slots, so that the trinodes can be completed? we we need ender/apoc/reflection/morningstar to all be at 50 right?

(i'm at 221 atm)

[jaunty karma]

Show me what you have now

[vestal vigil]

Any skill that can boost my damage even more that isn’t a trio node or V1-4. I have necro but still can’t beat ark due to weak dmg output 🙁

[jaunty karma]

Uhhh

These 4

If you don’t already have them

And yes necro would help

[cloud birch]

maxed decent skills? POOGO

[latent ravine]

I think the question that should be asked is if he’s capping or not

Assuming he doesn’t understand mdc and def ignore

[jaunty karma]

Show me this @ zkoal.

[vestal vigil]

@jaunty karma

[jaunty karma]

Alright how about boss analyst