Phantom

[little lagoon]

Basically died. Then wait for cool down as long as possible, then burst then die and repeat 😂

[rugged cove]

nice! just gotta practice more

while V3 gives good burst damage I find it better to use it to stay alive, depending on which boss you are doing

if you're dead you're not doing damage

and using up 1 death count that you probably didn't need to use

[little lagoon]

For v3 is it like I use it on the moment screen crack? Or need to wait for the animation abit

I'll be trying to hit it again in awhile haha

[rugged cove]

you can delay it a bit

it gives like 2s of iframe

plenty of time

[little lagoon]

I see! Okay

I passed again but this time swapping out dark thirst for sancro

[little lagoon]

Learnt from this haha

Burst is slightly weaker but can be completely safe when bursting

[rugged cove]

yea sancro is good additional iframes

just that to me, once i've learnt the mechanics of the boss, I prefer the life steal and FD buff it gives

use sancro as you see fit

[little lagoon]

I gotta learn the mechanics of the boss more. Just noticed I died few times due to not avoiding the fire plate below me

Especially when I go to the corner and my view is blocked by the buttons

[rugged cove]

you can make it more transparent

there's new optoin

but i dont

so i just make sure to put in the middle

[little lagoon]

This will always come out when it summons the 2 snake?

[rugged cove]

dont like being in the corner

[rugged cove]

i've noticed high chance

after that

so i just move as far as possible

dont burst and prioritize staying alive

[little lagoon]

Ohhh I was thinking running to the corner is better for me in case it stuns me

[rugged cove]

yea its good

i do that

but only in that case

to buy you more time to get out from the bind

after that i go back to middle

[little lagoon]

Ahh okay 👍🏻

[rugged cove]

dont like not being able to see him under my buttons if i go to the right >>

[little lagoon]

Haha I see!

Ok. I'll continue practicing more. Finally able to down it feels good

👏🏻

[rugged cove]

yea just bear in mind from Ark onwards, you need to learn boss mechanics

[little lagoon]

I'll check in again when I get better at avoiding the boss machenics

[rugged cove]

no more stat check i just burst you down

unless you got really strong

pretty sure you can even start practicing with Lotus now

[uneven yacht]

Buy necro weapon 15b na Scania a good one

[feral verge]

What's the name of the v3 that gives 2 se iframe?

[ionic bone]

Phantoms mark

[feral verge]

Oh ok I have that as part of my burst

[uneven yacht]

Any can help me?? In wath skills steal ? I bougth necro weapon but now all time in bosses im with 1 hp xd maybe i steal a bad skills

[rough plume]

Why dont screenshot your equips and your skill steals. There is a pinned message for what skills to steal for bossing. Check it out too

[stray trail]

Scroll just alittle bit up you’ll find what you are looking for

Or go to pinnned messages in this Channel

[rugged cove]

yea but you need to use the untoggled version where you teleport

the toggled version without the teleport has no iframe

[little lagoon]

Ohhhhhhhh was wondering why my attempt keep failing 😂

Thought my timing was off

[oblique spoke]

Hi! im a new at Maplestory M and have a Lvl 194 Phantom im about to main! Any tips? ❤️

[ionic bone]

Check all the pins here. Lots of great info to go off of. From tri nodes/skill wheels/hypers.

[little lagoon]

Any recommended slots to enhance?

[rugged cove]

Maple Goddess

you need to level that guy up

it's very important buff

[little lagoon]

Ohh okay

[rugged cove]

Cskills

level them up next after Vskills

Freud's, Maple Goddess, Last Resort

[little lagoon]

Thanks! That answered my next question on what I should use exp nodes from event for if I maxed out the vskills

Haha

[rugged cove]

Start with Maple Goddess 1st

[little lagoon]

For v skills that are maxed, just extract the extra nodes that get from nodestone right

No other use liao hor haha

[rugged cove]

yep

extract to fuel your weekly DS4 crafts

[little lagoon]

🤔 not using ds4 yet. If only hitting Arka at most still need ds4? Haha

[rugged cove]

Arka no need

but Lotus and above will need

[little lagoon]

Ok haha

Then not my problem yet 😆

[rugged cove]

but you gotta start practicing

if you have Necro40 and maxed nodes already

you can do Lotus basically

just gotta practice Phase 1 laser esp

earlier you run the boss the earlier you get more resources

and maybe tryt to join a perma Lotus team

[little lagoon]

Ohhh I never thought I'm eligible to try anything above Arka. Cos my armours are still in progress or collecting emblem ones and exalting existing ones to lvl40

Only 2 piece of emblem armour

[rugged cove]

well if you lack hp

can craft decent hyper bodyu

but by right you already have the damage

if your nodes looking like that

emblem gears are important and essential but overrated by many people

you dont need full inherit40 or necro40 to try lotus

maybe for Damien you do (but if you have no skill issue its doable)

[little lagoon]

I see! Guess Ill ask around guild to see if anyone has a slot for me to try it out after I go understand lotus mechanics

[uneven yacht]

Its this perfecto trío? Im new lvl 200 snd need help to know perfect trios

[untold latch]

Hey all! I’m new and was wondering what hyper skills to focus on and skills I should be using. Thanks

[bold bolt]

perfect trio is

• Mille, Tempest, Blanc

The other trio is

• IM3, IM4, Rose

[uneven yacht]

Im3 im4 Whats its that have picture:/? Maybe

[bold bolt]

impeccable memory 3, impeccable memory 4

it's in your 3rd job and 4th job

when you steal a skill it replaces it with that skill's name

[uneven yacht]

Oh okok so i need search 6 perfect trios rigth? 2 but in different places(combinations)?

[bold bolt]

you need 4 perfect trios

1st trio
(combination of mille, tempest, blanc)
2nd trio
(combination of mille, tempest, blanc) the skill on the left can't be the same as the 1st trio or else you won't be able to equip both at the same time

3rd trio
(combination of im3, im4, rose)
4th trio
(combination of im3, im4, rose) the skill on the left can't be the same as the 3rd trio or else you won't be able to equip both at the same time

[uneven yacht]

Oh okoi thx bro for u help

👍 👍 👍 👍

[bold bolt]

[still pendant]

I thought imp3/4/rose was mainly for farming nodes, no?

[uneven yacht]

That trios its the same ? 25,25,13 u have 3 same trios?

[little lagoon]

Yep. Just different 1st skill

Actually just need 25 25 and 10

Accidentally went over

[uneven yacht]

And why 3 bro?

[little lagoon]

To reach max level of lvl60

[uneven yacht]

Oh okok and dont use de +5 points there rigth?

[little lagoon]

I think people do 25 25 with 5 enhancement on each slot when you're higher levels

[little lagoon]

Yeah. My level is not high so I use it for vskills first

[uneven yacht]

Oh nice bro

[little lagoon]

Good luck haha

[uneven yacht]

Its hard to 1 trio now 3 xd need alot of Lucky xd

[little lagoon]

Haha just keep opening. The wrong ones can use to feed other nodes and extract afterward

You read the guide for nodestone before?

[uneven yacht]

Nop bro

Were i can?

@little lagoon

[little lagoon]

Err give me a sec to see if I can find it

[uneven yacht]

Thxx

[little lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/s/ZsrbIPkPwz

[uneven yacht]

Thx bro let me see ,

🙃

[little lagoon]

Quite a long read but it was very useful for when I just reached lvl200

[rugged cove]

actually a guide enjoyer

[little lagoon]

Haha I read yours too I believe. The new progression one

To see if anything that I could do differently hah

[uneven yacht]

1b and only 1 trio u.u its to Hard?

[little lagoon]

As the guide said, you can use semi perfect ones first and slowly get the trio. Should be no rush

[ionic bone]

When’s a good time to swap off of CD hype for Mille and FD tempest for hp and status res?

[rugged cove]

I don't lol

[uneven yacht]

I think phantom have low damage , comapatated other jobs (clasees) wath u think ? Same gears and lvls

[rugged cove]

We have one of the highest damage AND utility

You probably don't feel it atm because you don't have decent gears yet

And hyper/nodes etc

[little lagoon]

Yep. And lots of iframes too!

[drifting frigate]

If you keep dying

And you don't want to keep dying

[uneven yacht]

Yeeh i think its that , thx bro

[little lagoon]

But overall I see people just advising on going for a class with skills that you vibe with

With the right eq. Any class can be OP

I just happen to play the role of "semi support" tgt with my friends, that's how I ended up with this class

[uneven yacht]

Ye but I looking a class ,can be (good or decent) with low fund , not alot of money for spend xd I will buy a necro weapon and that its no more for spend xd , so I wana spend in a good class and srry for my english xd @little lagoon

[little lagoon]

Yep I think phantom is a good choice for that 😆

Maybe Pala is also another top contender. I'm not sure tho. Don't even have a Pala alt yet

[uneven yacht]

Thx bro for ur help 😉 @little lagoon I

[rugged cove]

Phantom is definitely good for this purpose

as long as you have min. damage you can join boss runs for providing utility

you can cosplay as a Paladin/Bishop

in that sense it's "f2p" friendly

i've been joining boss runs with Necro40/maxed nodes with just inherit40s

[uneven yacht]

Oh that nice , with another dps clases ,if have low fund and low damage , the people never will invt to boss run rigth? @rugged cove

[rugged cove]

yea

utility classes like phantom bishop paladin and maybe Shade is considered good for this

other classes if you dont have damage why would people invite you

[uneven yacht]

Jajajaja 🤣 thats true

@rugged cove maybe can u show me ur preset skilss for boss and ab ? In pv if u wana ? Cuz its Hard to know about that for me alot of skills press and hold atc jaja ,i want to know what could be the best way to place the spells u.u @rugged cove

[rugged cove]

#1059994691585716254 message

just follow

scroll upwards

im too lazy to show you mine

[uneven yacht]

@rugged cove oh okok

[rugged cove]

phantom not that hard of a class

if you maining it

read the skills

and understand how they work

[ionic bone]

Not really dying, just for the hdamien and harder bosses

[drifting frigate]

Do you want to die less?

If you answer yes, change. If no, don't change.

If you're not even dying, don't change.

If you mean you're trying to hit certain amount of HP so that people want to take you into the team, then HP is generally good to get.

People don't really look at your damage when you're playing phantom.

[little lagoon]

Do we use shroud as movement skill in boss? I've been using rapier all this whule

[stray trail]

For lotus p1 if you don’t clear it fast enough

[little lagoon]

Ohh okay. Then I'll save it until I try lotus haha

[uneven yacht]

@little lagoon

How its better to use that skills active or not ?

[little lagoon]

Which? Haha

[uneven yacht]

Mark ,and fragmentatiin

Phantom mark and fragmentsriom

[little lagoon]

Err I just learn that mark is good to have the tele effect as it gives you iframe for awhile

While the other one I use the teleport while farming and non teleport as burst dmg to bossing

[little lagoon]

Hmm I realized one good thing about the Venom burst is that the DOT effect can help trigger more carde even when boss is in dmg reflect mode. But not sure if it helps procs more carde when in regular mode

But difference seems not to be big enough compared to having other buff skills for burst hah

[merry linden]

which vskills to prioritize?

[little lagoon]

V1 burst

[little lagoon]

First time clear without dying haha

And didnt swap to sancro too

[swift crown]

anyone know optimal hyper passives for bossing

[little lagoon]

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[cobalt sun]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a BS or PH for my Ark/Hmag daily run.

Time: 6:00 PM server time.

NA Scania

[uneven yacht]

Hey bros

Wath its better first if i alrsy get necro weapon ,max trios, hyper points, or search change non emblem equip ???

[little lagoon]

Trios

[uneven yacht]

Thx bro

[little lagoon]

Good luck!

[little lagoon]

Is the stolen sancro buff up time lower compared to previously? I watch tutorial video but seems that the sancro is up for very long time

[ionic bone]

Yeah they adjusted the uptime to be less in the past

[little lagoon]

Ahh so that's why. Thanks!

[uneven yacht]

Sell necro weapon , na scania cheep 12b

[kindred geode]

I just got this today… what do you guys think I should do? Sell it or upgrade it to keep it?

[bold bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/woah-sunglasses-mesmerized-amazed-gif-10595322

[little lagoon]

Depends if you're at the end game stage? Idk 😂

[radiant lynx]

Hey guys

In the new update

Will they make phantom stronger?

Or weaker

[little lagoon]

I don't think there's any rebalancing this update?

[radiant lynx]

Ohh yea it was Korean server

[subtle galleon]

I have read the msges before, i see ppl saying how v1 skill can be cancelled by using other skill? I am not sure how it works because when my v1 is activating, I cannot use any other skill especially during the screen crack of ark, I cannot shell! Terrible outcome of my pt hahahahaha. May I ask how can we cancel v1 half way in this kind of situation?

[stray trail]

Spam tap another skill til it stops 😭

[subtle galleon]

does it work? I spammed and to no luck, I was like "sorry I cannot activate shell! guys iframe!"

😭

[acoustic hazel]

Try using v3,v4 or tempest to cancel

[stray trail]

I spam Millie all the time it usually works for me

[little lagoon]

Yep. Mille for me too

Or if it really doesn't work. Save your burst until after crack

😂

[subtle galleon]

ok!

[subtle galleon]

yea thats what I have been doing 😂

Thanks guys I am going to try later!

[arctic cave]

Help me understand; I noticed a couple of comments claiming that their gears are unique and capable of surviving SF144. However, I have some legendary gear, am level 189, and had 37,000 HP (before buff), and I'm wondering why I keep dying in SF144. Any suggestions for improvement?

[limber thistle]

Go to pets and put hp pot to 70% or even 90%, also get better hp pots of they don't give enough hp

[arctic cave]

Thank you, i’m currently using standard v6 pots from loots and I will try v7 pot. Currently my pet HP healing is at 90% mark

[little lagoon]

Are you using buff pets?

[rough plume]

Hi all, for ark is necro necessary to get minimum 2 %. how does skill rotation look like, if we don't have necro yet.

[subtle galleon]

You can check whether you have yellow jewel set to get the kbk res which is important in 144. When pig punches you, you need to be able to hit back instead of temporarily not being able to do anything

If you got, then maybe it’s just that you need to push through this phase when phantom is not as pro, once higher level you will be able to survive

Another thing is whether do you have all expedition set accessories, they buff a lot

If all also yes and you just cant wait to get to higher level for improved situation, then just on a pet and get magic guard on

[sage vale]

Phantom lvl 110. And I have zero idea how I’m supposed to be using the stollen skills. I’d like to auto farm exp and mesos. I’m seen lots of set ups but almost all seem to suggest in need a pet for buff and I’m wondering if I can get a recommendation that doesn’t use a buff pet since I don’t have a permanent buff pet. So if you could tell me what stolen skills I need jobs before hyper and how I should set them up on my skill grid for auto id appreciate it a lot.

[scenic bough]

https://youtu.be/5gTms7hv90Q?si=A5ZqYJPgA7D2zkSU

Can take a look at this guide

[slow surge]

from what i understand is Mille can cast while jump and can move around while jumping???

[little lagoon]

Where's this from?

[slow surge]

kmsm job6 patch

[marble kiln]

Heavy nerf....

[unique epoch]

I’m planning on putting a Google sheet or website up to get basic class info that’s up to date and easier to find.

Would you mind helping me put the following together for this class?

1. Perfect Trio Nodes(Primary/Secondary)
2. Hyper Passive Skills
3. Auto Battle Skill Setup
4. Boss Battle Skill Setup

[vernal holly]

Is that 5lines and 10s cooldown

[fathom anvil]

level all armor gear to level 20. starting with the overall.

[stray trail]

Yeah someone need to translate pls

[vernal holly]

Ya 5 line vs 18 10 s cooldown

Guess more iframe while fighting lol

Carte buff?

[uneven yacht]

Were I can see that infromation ?

[ionic bone]

That translation does not seem right lol

[stray trail]

So confused they x3.5ish the hit count but x4 the cooldown?

Might as well keep it the same if that’s what it means

But x3 the buff duration

[little lagoon]

But looks like nerf on the buff itself tho

Maybe only the hp and mp recovery

[ionic bone]

Or wait

Is it a new function ?

Like every 3 seconds it also does that

To help with mobbing?

[little lagoon]

That's for the carte right?

[ionic bone]

Correct

Judgment draw is the one that creates cards

Carte is card dmg and addition activation chance with the ability for drain card and perseverance

Though the v1 skill looks confusing for me lmao

Bruh the 2 min cd is aggressive

[little lagoon]

Seems like buff to carte but nerfed v1 lol

[ionic bone]

Longer cd but bigger burst for it

Carte buff probs = more dpm

[vernal holly]

translation is alittle iffy

but currently carte is 1card per 0.1s or 5 cards per 0.5s

i think reverse card is a whole new thing

[vernal holly]

which skill are u referring to

okay i just checked with our V1 currently it is 5hits and buff duration of 10S. So does that mean it will go from 5hit -> 18 hits multiplied by each rep of LOTD? the cooldown stays the same..? I think. If that is the case its a buff

[vernal holly]

i misinterpreted the translation (left is before right is after) the 10s isn't cooldown its the buff duration of the card gained after V1 casted. so the buff will be 30s and 5 lines per repeat -> 18 lines per repeat. thats 360% more lines in our biggest damage skill 😮

[slow surge]

seems all buff

except the copying one

[ionic bone]

It’s a 120 second cooldown

V1 at the very top says “use wait time again” and it shows 120 seconds

[vernal holly]

oh damn

didnt see that part

okay the max shot count (120) is the amount of reps we multiply by the 5 lines currently right

😮‍💨 nerfed by 10% in lines

Hopefully the new carte makes up for it

[ionic bone]

I just wonder if the rest of the the v skills get adjusted

Since most of them run a very similar CD

3/4 v skills have 30 second cooldowns

[vernal holly]

Im hoping the carte we have now stays and that new reverse cart is an addition to our current one to make up for LOTD nerf

[vernal holly]

Hopefully the leave those alone lol

[ionic bone]

If it’s an addition that would be a lot more dmg consistently

[vernal holly]

its saying (new) so hopefully it an addition to the current skill 🤞🏻

Because that 0.1s interval is pretty annoying and now it’s 0.5s

[little lagoon]

What's LOTD again? 🤔

[ionic bone]

V1 Luck of the Draw

[little lagoon]

OK thanks haha. Confused me a second

[merry geyser]

hey I'd like to know if phantom absolutely needed pet buff to farm like sf144?

[limber thistle]

My phantom can farm 144/147 easily with full unique's and no pet buffs

[merry geyser]

deym, only unique and no pet buff? isn't that too OP? haha, any other classes that can match phantom OP ness?

[limber thistle]

Probably Erel & kaiser

There are more who can do the same, not as great as meso farmers as phantom are imo

[trim yoke]

which skill did you steal?

[little lagoon]

If you're not using pets, I'd suggest the dual blade 4th job skill (forgot the name, buffs dmg upon use), DK 3rd job skills that adds passive buff even without it being used

[marble kiln]

When does the next skill update come?

[limber thistle]

Oh lmao never saw your tag as notificationnso sorry for the late response, but nothing really it's all buffs that I'm not using cuz of not having pet buffs

[oblique spoke]

4th skill From Dual blade is Final Cut, Good dmg and gives imumity

[trim yoke]

Nah that’s alright I turn off the notification on purpose

[glossy turtle]

Ello , im recruiting for a will team , i need determinate player who want to learn will mechanic , we will practice saturday 17:40 to 19:05 ingame time ( just in time for fort ) requierement is 60 MDC with 20% IED we have a shade ( need pally and bishop ).

[little lagoon]

V2 or v3 to be maxed first?

[stray trail]

V2

[little lagoon]

Okay~

[ionic bone]

We will be able to move and jump with mille

Carte is getting a additional affects

V4 getting more lines

V3 more lines

V1 longer CD more lines and longer buff duration

More lines from Rose lower % and more lines on the tick dmg and lower %

Nerfs to stolen skills

Sacro/Dark sight

Devs want to make phantoms burst stronger in a short period of time

Overall looks good

The additional new card damage will be nice with this change

Will help with AB and multi target things

As well as overall boss DPS

[little lagoon]

When is this update hitting us?

[stray trail]

Is that going to be with class rebalance you think @vernal holly

[scenic bough]

Any sense on what the carte effect is? Just more line? Don’t really understand the translation

[ionic bone]

That’s an new addition

[ionic bone]

Looks like it will help with mobbing by hitting 3 targets for 3 lines for 240% dmg on a 3 second cooldown

But overall will just be passive damage for bosses as well

[keen lotus]

If we're getting this at all it's the rebalance patch

But at the end of the day this is still kmsm and we tend to not always get the same changes

[vernal holly]

No idea they got it after 6th job for them. I wouldn’t mind it in the next rebalance, excited to see the new carte (hopefully its an entire additional function on top of the current one) we will save 15s of channeling v1 due to the longer cooldown to attack with mille and v2.. the extra lines from v3+v4 hopefully makes up for the lines lost from v1

[mental glade]

what order should I max vskillz?

[stray trail]

1,2,4,3

[ionic bone]

Yes

[keen lotus]

I think it's just a translation thing and the blood sucking card is just the stuff that's on the ground

I hate the V1 change tbh

It makes absolutely 0 sense

[eternal shard]

Isint the v1 changes good? Cuz u get to deal almost 4 times the normal amount of dmg in that few seconds instead of waiting cooldown every 30 sec. And easier to time your buffs. Our early burst gonna be damn high

[ionic bone]

I dig it. And the carte change.

Sacro sucks but oh well lol

And jumping with mille is nice

[vernal holly]

Excited to see the changes

[keen lotus]

Well yes, but it's still a single target skill is my issue

With no boss prioritization

• you lose the iframe + buffs every 30 seconds

I currently use V1 and then V3 V4 after which I always have iframe for

Because of V1

[scenic bough]

So our v1 usually does 1205 for 600 lines every 30 seconds, but there is a 5 second channel (my estimate) time every 30seconds. Now the new skill if the same should have 12018=2160 lines every 2 mins, but the channel time I assume should be the same.

So even though line count goes from 2400 every 120seconds in 4 batches to 2160 lines in 120seconds at one go, we get extra 15 seconds (3 casts *5 sec) of channel time freed up. Those 15 sec freed up you can definitely do more than 240 lines by using mille

[little lagoon]

Whats channel time?

[scenic bough]

Basically it’s the cast time or animation time when you activate V1. It takes a couple of seconds for that animation to complete to deal damage.

[ionic bone]

Can also time up our bursts a little more freely

What also seems to be there is the buff we get lasts longer. So the cool down one could be very nice

[meager badge]

Guys, how should i distribute my hyper points ?

[chrome spruce]

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[broken rivet]

Hi, what are the skills to steal for phantom alt?

[ionic bone]

https://youtu.be/5gTms7hv90Q?si=A5ZqYJPgA7D2zkSU

[fair vortex]

Is it worth to include rose carte finale in trio? Make 3 trios instead of only 2?

[ionic bone]

No

Maybe if you have empty node slots down the road but it’s not worth it

[fair vortex]

My phantom aint that strong but i aim to make it atleast an lotus alt, and was wondering if rcf is worth the mesos to be able to dish out more dps - considering it stays a few seconds on ground dealing dot

Because right now it seems fairly decent - pre bossing mule🤣

[ionic bone]

Nahh you would get more out of decent HB if your hp is low than a couple more % points of dot dmg

[fair vortex]

Okay thanks, ill look into dhb as an option!

[ionic bone]

Will help with surviving

[fair vortex]

Not an issue if you have the experience/knowledge and movement to dodge what kills you

||and most importantly, decent aggro😂||

[keen lotus]

As somebody who has a LVL 60 Boost node for it, no

It's like 3% of my total damage

[radiant zinc]

0

[mental glade]

is v4 mainly a mobbing skill?

[mental glade]

which of these nodes should I focus on?

[little lagoon]

Maple goddess

[mental glade]

for trios is it still just
mille
tempest
rose?

[little lagoon]

Mille tempese and carde

Rose doesn't contribute much dmg as someone mentioned above

[little lagoon]

I think the best purpose for rose is for the Dot to proc more carde atk. So the dmg doesn't matter 🤔

[hot warren]

Hi guys, just wanted to understand, would the increase in final dmg for boost nodes for memory work if the memory is a buff?

[little lagoon]

Nope

[mental glade]

which skill is carde?

[bold bolt]

Carte Blanc or carte noir or something like that

[mental glade]

thank you

[ionic bone]

You really only need impeccable memory 4 upgraded and you could do rose for farming. I use showdown for when i AB

[sage berry]

i know im3 is part of perfect trio setup normally, is that cos theres nothing else really? does anyone actually use im3 stolen skills for dmg? is it even worth getting lvl60

right now i just have rose lvl30 and 3 trios because rose base damage is high as is.. seems logical

[little lagoon]

Can share how your nodes looks like now?

[sage berry]

so mil, tempest, cart, im4 lvl 60, rose 30

saves me a slot in the matrix

[little lagoon]

Hmm the using the slot enhancement for vskills might be more worth it for more dps I think

[gaunt cape]

Yes im3 is goated

[sage berry]

Why?

[gaunt cape]

Barrel roulette gives extra lines

[sage berry]

How much dmg does it actually contribute too?

[ionic bone]

Not a lot

[sage berry]

Do you cap those lines ?

[ionic bone]

It’s less than additional damage hyper stat % for me

Idk about @gaunt cape

[earnest lodge]

Hi guys, im returning player. Need some inputs from u guys

Am i doing it right

[vernal holly]

pretty hard to cap. might be a good skill if to run if your cap is low

if you care about guild honor/guild dungeon you can use it there. but need lv60 impeccable memory

[ionic bone]

I would keep getting your tri nodes. You want Mille/Tempest/Carte

I wouldn’t worry about impeccable memory 3/4 until you get the bossing tri nodes done

If you don’t have a necro keep using sharp eyes for that Crit rate

Once you do you can use crossbones if you like. Not sure how strong the DB 4th job is.

[earnest lodge]

So my tri odes still need to change yet right?

Nodes*

The steal skill set is fine right?

[ionic bone]

Once you have a necro cane you can swap out your 4th job sharp eyes for something else

Right now the Crit rate is fine and helps you

Everything else looks good

Just gotta clean up the nodes and you should be good for a bit

[earnest lodge]

Okay, thanks alot

[eternal shard]

I set up trio nodes with Mille/tempest/carte. you’ll need those slots for other skills for bossing. Impeccable memory not that important

[eager nexus]

what hyper stats should i put for bossing? FD, PD, BA, additional skill DMG?

[limber thistle]

MDC instead of BA is what I would recommend tbh, you'll most likely cap by the time you max all four

[eternal shard]

Additional skill dmg is doing very very little actually. I’d recommend FD > PDI> MDC and the very last go for additional skill dmg

[eternal shard]

Maybe just maybe getting BA/CD might be more worth than additional skill dmg if you can’t cap

[earnest lodge]

So did i finally foundes the perfect trio?

Found*

[ionic bone]

Yes that is one of them! Just need one more with either mille or carte as the base

[little lagoon]

Why you're not using the slot enhancement. Free 16 levels

[earnest lodge]

Yea, im waiting for the perfect trio

So i can all in on tht right

[earnest lodge]

Just saw ur msg, aight Gs imma all in on tht trios

[earnest lodge]

Meaning need two same trios, but just diff base isit?

[ionic bone]

Yes so the skill gets to lvl 60

[earnest lodge]

Thanks fam

[little lagoon]

You can swap around the slots and reset it as needed

Don't need to save it

Use it for your vskills is also a good choice

[earnest lodge]

Aight G

[rough plume]

Any phantom's facing rose Carte and luck of the draw not working during auto battle when on a preset but works separately? Somehow can't bundle tempest and luck of draw in preset after the update too..

[ionic bone]

I have not experienced that

I also have them bundled

[rough plume]

Solved it.. somehow command was on

[raven pier]

heya, i swapped out venom burst for freud's wisdom, not sure if it is the right decision..?

and i suppose i should be focusing on lvling up the tri notes first, and not luck of the draw...right...? :')

[little lagoon]

Fued is better and it gives you iframe for bossing too

[little lagoon]

If you have exp nodes, give it to lotd. Boost nodes are easier to get and level up

[raven pier]

ahh ok tysm! :DD

[little lagoon]

It's your main burst so definitely good to get it to max soon

[raven pier]

aight, gotcha, ty :>

[charred mantle]

Whats the best hyper to steal?

[onyx torrent]

What do I do now I just replayed the game and just wanted to try my luck 😓

[glossy sentinel]

First of all, congrats! Is that your first Necro?
Or you have another main other than Phantom?

[onyx torrent]

Yea it's my first necro. Hmmm I have a few other lvl 200 alts but to be honest I do not have a main

Thanks in advance for your advice !

[glossy sentinel]

Did you exalt to level 40 before doing Necro?

[onyx torrent]

Yea it's at level 40 now

I guess I should work on exalting my body armour and try to head to the next SF ?

[glossy sentinel]

1. Ok nice. Then you’re on the right track. Weapon comes first for Necro/Ancient exalt. Best case if it’s CD emblem.
2. Next step is armor and the preference depends on whichever armor has the most progress. This one will take quite a while as you’re dealing with exalting five armors, so you’ll have to be patient.
   I’ve used below link as a consolidated guide for my progress + discord
   https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/s/2Phas2gGqr

SF is important but so do AF and 5th job skill levels equally.
Now that you have the Necro Weapon, the synergy of dmg increase will be noticeable if you’ve been diligent with leveling up above mentioned.

[onyx torrent]

Ahhh thanks for pointing me into the right direction! I have been neglecting levelling up my nodes and have just thrown this char to farm meso, will read up on the nodes to level up and all that, thanks mate !

[onyx torrent]

By the way the best option is still crit damage right? Just wanna confirm thanks!

[little lagoon]

You mean the choice you get for Necro?

Or emblem haha

[glossy sentinel]

If you meant unlocking fair trade option, best is Crit Dmg % increase for the weapon.

[onyx torrent]

Thanks mate !

[marble kiln]

Hi there! People, there is some guide for good phantom boss settings, I'm level 231 and already killed Lotus solo and i want to kill Damien, but seems a little harder, so much skills to use...

[wild trellis]

Phantom is suitable for PHY ATT or Crit?

[little lagoon]

? Context?

Don't quite get the question

[wild trellis]

Mobbing

[limber minnow]

@wild trellis You might want to steal the dash move from DKs

[earnest lodge]

Hi guys, im old player cameback to play Mapmestory M, if i remember correctly my cane is tpba already right? I just need to emblem scroll on it isit

[limber thistle]

TPBA was removed a couple updates ago so it's kind of a legacy item now, I believe once you rank it up it will be PBA again and not TPBA

[earnest lodge]

But other thn tht is evrything good? I just need to emblem it only right

[little lagoon]

I think it might be better to start from a CD / BA Emblemed unique and rank it up from there

Rolling emblem potential scroll has chance of getting the other emblem which you'll need to reroll again

[earnest lodge]

I see. But the refine part is once only right? The sequence is

Good emblem + mythic, thn exalt till lvl 40, thn refine once thn go inherit for f2p, right?

[little lagoon]

Rate for necro increased throughout the updates and can stack scrolls to increase the %

Might be worthwhile to consider necro weapon even as a f2p now (?) I'm not very sure up to your own decision tho haha

[limber thistle]

Even as F2P, you still need necro weapon because ancient / chaos can only bring you so far, the crit rate res is just too much at higher bosses to deal enough damage

[little lagoon]

As a f2p, I personally went for a necro weapon anyway. Armour I have no idea where to go. But they keep failing so it didn't matter to me yet

[limber thistle]

Well you need necro's to exalt them or sf23 ancient fodders, you got the money to exalt necro's as f2p?

[little lagoon]

Haha maybe taking one step at a time. Not rushing for end game contents

Would you recommend inherit armour for f2p?

[limber thistle]

That's totally up to you to be honest, if you go inherit route to lvl 50 > chaos 50 then it's about the same as a necro 44 in terms of MDC, but if you don't land abso then that's it for that item, and you'll need to replace it for a necro/abso or attempt it all over again

However with chaos50 you'll be able to beat certain bosses much quicker then being stuck trying to exalt necro from 40 > 44, which in return will generate more cashflow because you can start selling boss drops

[earnest lodge]

So after refine once, just go for necro thn, okay understood

[limber thistle]

What phantom guide you talking about? There's info in the pinned messages about this class and tons of additional in the chat so I suggest you to just read through this chat

[lethal current]

Can someone tell me the cooldown for phantoms all v matrix skills at 1 and max lvl

[vernal holly]

phantoms mark and rift break 30seconds at lv30

[little lagoon]

I think v1 30 sec too

[wild trellis]

any suggestion legion for phantom?

[little lagoon]

I think it's just the standard legion same with all classes

Final dmg, phy dmg, hp% etc

[limber socket]

Hey some one can send the update V matrix?

[little lagoon]

Sry not sure what you mean?

The perfect trios?

[scenic bough]

Hi guys, wondering how do y’all optimize for erda? Anyone can share some tips? Use lightning or showdown or miles and anything else to optimize?

[little lagoon]

I use miles cos the mobs are hard to kill 😅

[scenic bough]

Yea mobs are really tanky.. I’ve been toying around with setup but doing only around ~210 mobs per minute… I know other classes can do maybe 300-350. Not sure what do I need to tweak to kill faster for more exp. Using bossing set already but wondering what I can do for skills etc

[little lagoon]

How's your eq like? I think mostly is from eq

[scenic bough]

I do around 15m per line with miles in boss set in erda. Mix of abso and necros and one chaos helm. Weap lvl 42

[ionic bone]

I use showdown with the FP hyper skill. If I’m on the bottom row i usually am clearing the top as well. I keep my abso cane on my exp hyper page.

[scenic bough]

Thanks.. fp hyper skill doesn’t hit for much but I guess every bit helps?

[vagrant hill]

Several years later....

Anyways does phantom hometown/ship/lumiere have a storage keeper in the mobile game? Is there a quest to unlock it?

[little lagoon]

?

[vagrant hill]

Just linking the first message of the thread for people who likes to see the first message

[rough plume]

Patch notes out

[ancient hinge]

Where can i find them?

[rough plume]

https://forum.nexon.com/MapleStoryMGlobal/board_view?board=2690&thread=3150059

[ancient hinge]

Thanks!

[rough plume]

Our dark sight and sancro 😰 steal skills.. how bad is the nerf overall for us.. any pros care to share their insights

[elder moon]

They compensated with another iframe skill it seems.

just lesser damage buffs to be stolen if you want iframes

[ionic bone]

We have a burst now with our v1 being changed

More lines overall from other skills

Our carte skill is getting a mobbing card that hits multiple targets for multiple lines every 3 seconds

So that’s a slight boost for bossing as well.

Overall line count and burst is better

Small dip in survivability

[little lagoon]

How does mille while jumping work?

I'd understand if it was pc but mille and jump button are usually pressed by the same finger on mobile

[deft talon]

Luck of the draw definitely robbed from phantom. 4 times after skill 3 sec invincibility to just once every 120s

Sancro and ds robbed too lol
But pala are also 10s

[deft talon]

Double jump without directions keys
Or play on pc

[ionic bone]

Luck of the draw is a burst skill now

Phantoms struggle in will because of it

We will have more time to get our damage out during ds4 and other burst windows now

[fierce geyser]

would the best initial burst combo now be V2 --> V1 --> V4 --> V3?

since target debuff cooldown is 0.5 seconds, the V1 (roughly 3 second channel?) should allow for getting to max stacks with the first V3 cast

previously I was just using V4/V3 right away since target stacking would take too long (might as well start the CD) then V1 after

[ionic bone]

Does our v1 have the same skill animation time?

If it’s a dump and go then I’d consider using it first

For the buff that’s 30 seconds now

Imma test it out post patch. But if it is a dump and go it could be v1>v2>will skill>v4>v3 into tempest

That way you can get maximum lines for sure

But also get more of the buff out of the will skill

[earnest lodge]

Normally we v4 first only v3? I dont actually know whats the combo of the v skills

[vernal holly]

Is target cooldown the stacks that add up to 7?

for me i used to V2 -> (V3 V4 Carte rose Venom burst preset) -> V1 -> tempest -> V2 -> mille

[fierce geyser]

yeah I used to do similar as well but we can actually get 7 stack before casting so its additional lines

[wide isle]

New phantom v1

Nerf or buff?

[ionic bone]

Buff

Very big buff

[little lagoon]

Wow good to hear! Not yet have a chance to try it out yet

[rough plume]

Good to hear that too. Will perfect trios still be the same ?

[little lagoon]

I don't think there's any change to that

But with the extra vmatrix slot. I think everyone can afford to put in 2ndory trio

[glossy sentinel]

Tested Solo Ark + Hard Vellum with a new change.

Soling Ark is now much easier due to higher DPS
Vellum gets destroyed due to Luck of the Draw burst.

So far, I really like the change since I can mix in other matrix buffs due to more slots.

[ionic bone]

It will be very nice for higher end bosses with short burst windows

[radiant lynx]

Where i can find the new iframe?

[earnest lodge]

So after max trio nodes, still max v1 first? Or v3

[ionic bone]

I’d mad v1 first

[ionic bone]

The new iframe is a stolen skill

It really isn’t worth it imo

[earnest lodge]

Aight, thanks man. After max my trio gonna max v1

[slate adder]

Hey there some changes for us in this update? that we need to change skill rutation or add more trios?

hyper passive change?

[ionic bone]

We have enough room at higher lvls to be able to have on a second trio for other skill.

I changed my rotation up

[gaunt cape]

how many skills are in ur trio?

[ionic bone]

My main trio is mille/tempest/carte

Secondary is rose/impec4/impec3

[bold bolt]

@vernal holly what do you have for your hyper passives?

[vernal holly]

Tempest FD, cooldown reduc. Mille FD, Crit DMG. Enhanced bad luck ward PAtk%

[bold bolt]

Thank you.

[bold bolt]

Should I switch mine from bad luck hp% to patk %? I currently have 270k with it

[split yew]

New record without BR

Ops

[vernal holly]

I would if you need help hard capping

[bold bolt]

what's BR?

[split yew]

@bold bolt Boss rush

[bold bolt]

Oh. Thank you

[marble kiln]

Hey, I'm actually playing msm on my cellphone, and I can't use the "miller" skill while jumping, It seems that's not possible to press 2 buttons at the same time... Any solutions?

Maybe configurations or somethings

[bold bolt]

same hand. Index finger and thumb.

[marble kiln]

Yeah, but the cellphone doesn't accept double input, or jump or miller

[ionic bone]

I was able to on mobile. It’s just not ideal unless you on are pc

[lapis condor]

2nd trio more for farming use? as my stolen skill is more for buffing on bosses

[little lagoon]

I just add in all types of decent skills to get more passive dmg increase

And change 2 perfect trio to 3 perfect trio. Then the extra 10 slot enhancement use on other skills to get more passive gains too

Since we have too much slot now 😂

[ionic bone]

That’s fine but rose is in my rotation so i use it for the IED and fd % increase

[radiant lynx]

Is this good for bossing?

[ionic bone]

Rose might help a small amount.

[eternal shard]

The decent sharp eye, does it reduce your own phy attk if get damaged or reduce the enemies?

And since latest patch gave a lot of free vskills slot, what additional v skills should we get?

[ionic bone]

No. It’s a reduction to damage taken basically

[ionic bone]

I put on all the decent skills and such.

Then left on my alternate trio

Was able to keep rope lift and blink as well

[eternal shard]

Ok thankss 🫰

But now that we have so many buff skills, we need better pets haha

[ionic bone]

M pets are worth it

[rough plume]

Are the event shop pets lil gala pet box considered m pets ?

[rough plume]

Fairytale orchid pet full package for 990 diamond s is that mpets?

Oh

[broken surge]

You do v1 before tempest? I’ve been doing tempest before v1 so if I get cd reduction card it’d reduce the tempest cd

[split yew]

@broken surge that also work if u use v1 before tempset

[lunar crescent]

Perfect trio?

[little lagoon]

Nope. Check pins

[bold bolt]

technically because we have a million v slots now it should be okay

not sure if it's still valid but ideally, you'd want:

trio 1 : (any combination of) mille, tempest, blanc

trio 2 : (any combination of) rose, im3, im4

[ionic bone]

Still this

[patent bane]

How IM give final damage if I used for a buff skill? And does it worth to lvl it up?

[elder moon]

With the new changes are there any better hypers to steal for damage buffs. Current using Dark Thirst

[ionic bone]

I use F/P

[little lagoon]

For farming?

[bold bolt]

what's that stand for?

[patent bane]

Same I'm using dark thirst too

[sullen prairie]

Anyone know the perf trio for phantoms

[gaunt cape]

Credit card

[rough plume]

This

[vagrant hill]

The class that uses cards and other classes skills

[teal otter]

Why im3 still? Didn’t we determine that arrow platter got nerfed to the ground?

[rough plume]

No idea then I guess someone updated willing to share ? I haven't changed my im3 im4 combo

[simple escarp]

bossing?

[gaunt cape]

teachnically we dont need im3 and 4 anymore

since we just use it for buff and iframe lol

lowkey useless

[ionic bone]

Wot

[ionic bone]

Yes for bossing.

[simple escarp]

Useful?

[ionic bone]

It’s free lines, so it’s helpful. Unless you aren’t capping then I’d use something else

[simple escarp]

Poison?

[ionic bone]

Hyper f/p yeah

[gaunt cape]

If ur cap is like 240m you’d want all buff skills

No fp and stuff

[scenic bough]

Fp does not do much lines also?

[civic sun]

Noob phantom just hit 200 anyone got a skill wheeel / ideal skill setup for im?

[thorny solstice]

I recommend reading through if no one gives the answer you’re looking for

[wild trellis]

Hi, is there any recommend V matrix skills setup for mobbing/bossing? especially boost node

[bold bolt]

boost node: the trio you want is

mille, tempest, blanc

[bold bolt]

for AB I use mille, tempest, ace hole, phantom mark (teleport), rift (teleport), maybe rose carte

[outer oyster]

any pro phantoms here that have solo-ed/still solo hdam fairly regularly?

having some issues with trying to activate the damn altars cause of iframes -.-

feels quite dumb to not be able to activate the altar while iframe-d

not only that, but after iframe ends still need to exit and reenter to get the activation going

[stray trail]

Just don’t stand on alters when on iframe it wont charge besides that it should be fine

[keen lotus]

Just plan 10 seconds ahead and don't use iframe if you've got high stacks

Other than that the only accidental iframe you'll get is from V1 but that's on a 2 min cd now anyways so shouldn't be a big issue either

[outer oyster]

It's been more an issue of him slashing/blue balls when I'm trying to cleanse

[keen lotus]

Best advice I can give then really is just to learn the rotation so you can plan around it

[outer oyster]

Oh btw just to clarify, I'm attempting multi HDam solo

I clear solo mode easily

But multi... The dark altar is pretty much unusable so that's an extra unavoidable branding

But yea I've done some research on the skill patterns now

Thanks for the response 👍

[keen lotus]

No worries!

In that case though my biggest advice is don't burn yourself out over an eyepatch drop you're not gonna get anyways

If I can't oneshot multi mode I just go solo cuz it's not worth the hassle

I just tend to have 5-10 mins of buffs leftover after will gloom harchon and I do lucid damien lotus CRA within those 5 minutes and I've never been happier

[devout hatch]

Hey guys, I didn't get what tri nodes phantom need from the pins

I need 3 tri nodes? If yes what they are 👀

[keen lotus]

The pinned image you really just need 2 copies of the top 3 skills nowadays

The bottom 3 are only for if you wanna go mega super tryhard and cap everything anyways/want a slight improvement to mobbing

[devout hatch]

So Mille carte and tempest?

2 copies? Not 3 tri nodes?

[little lagoon]

Can be 3 now since we get a lot of slots for free

[lunar karma]

is there an emblem ratio that phantoms follow? or does it not really matter anymore

[gaunt cape]

4/4

4 credit cards 4 debit cards

[tepid barn]

Perfect trio Mille,carte,tempest

I open so many nodestone still can’t find this 3 combination

Do you guys craft it instead or?

[vital cedar]

I got lucky after opening 1500+ nodes

[little lagoon]

Hmm you can use another slot to cover for the missing node first

Since we get so many slots now

We need to min max the slots previously as its more limited

[flint oar]

Is there even a build for “steal” skill

[little lagoon]

? Depends on what content we're doing I think

[vagrant hill]

Is phantom good mobber pre 200s

[golden flare]

No

Best meso farmer tho

[vagrant hill]

Wah better than Shad 😀 😍

So far phantom helped me with gateway future monster collection but shad got nth huehue

[vagrant hill]

Aim for 3 stars and hyper for alt/mules

2 stars.... Rate isnt 2x 1star and those prob in out of sight areas like grandis, el nath

[vagrant hill]

All ariant mobs alr 30min

So 15min then 10min

[vagrant hill]

Magatia not interested so 15min

[vagrant hill]

Lol my mc got messy now but yea move on and wait for future updates and char slots for mc slaves

[arctic stratus]

hello is there a phantom guide that i can follow?

[golden flare]

Check pin

[rare wadi]

Anyone has experience/opinion on Phantom as a submain/boss alt? Thanks

[swift marsh]

anyone willing to share their bossing/farming skill wheel

[limber minnow]

Those are still the right hyper passive skills?

[humble pivot]

no idea. @broken surge would know

[earnest lodge]

Now tht my trios all maxed, and also my v1 is max, what is the next priority?

[little lagoon]

V4 for bossing I think quite good DPS

Or v3 for the iframe

[earnest lodge]

So either v3 or v4 next stop right? Alright thanks fam

[hidden edge]

Is there a chart for base damage ranges?

[inner elk]

… am having a really hard time finding the ab wheel here

[inner elk]

Guess it’s this

[golden flare]

It depends

For mobbing you can use night lord skill

Showdown

Mille is fine if you cannot one shot with showdown

Mille tempest and 170 skill

[inner elk]

Phantom seems to be very complex 😂 have to know every class’s skills and when they are situationally good

[ionic bone]

If you don’t have petit pets also use something that will help you move around so you collect more meso/nodes

We have a dash that also helps

[inner elk]

i thought that for meso farming hte goal was to avoid skills with a long range/big movement because you want to be walking and attacking (adn thus walking over more loot piles)

what are "petit" pets?

[ionic bone]

Those are vac pets

If it’s a meso farmer you want something that moves you around

[inner elk]

didn't realize there were more types of pets than just the free ones, the ones that can give buts, and mpets (whatever those are)

[little lagoon]

Mpets are the vac pets mentioned above

[dull glade]

can phantom solo bosses without necro weapon? (lotus and damien particularly )

[vital cedar]

Yes

[severe ledge]

Is there a bossing build for "steal" skill?

[bold bolt]

If you're capping your max dmg, then you want to steal skills that'll output more lines

if you're not then you want the buffs

monkey or meditation
cross bone?
Dark thirst?

[severe ledge]

Thanks! If im hitting max damage, whats the skills to steal for outputting more lines?

[nocturne cloak]

Hi, can anyone share which phantom hyper stats should be prioritized for bossing please? thank you.

[bold bolt]

Tempest: Final Dmg
Tempest: Reuse cooldown
Mille: Final Dmg
Mille: Crit Dmg

LAST ONE:
BAD LUCK WARD
Option 1: Get the MAX HP% one if you need hp. typically if you're lacking hp in the higher level bosses and dying.
Option 2: PHY ATK Increase
IDK if some pro out there is getting the abnormal resistance one.

[nocturne cloak]

Thanks for sharing this! but do you have information about hyper stat prioritization? i think this is for hyper passives.

[bold bolt]

Oh shoot.

Apparently I can't read

@nocturne cloak I think the main ones are

ADI or FD > PD or CD > MDC

MDC second if you're capping already

Then BA or something.

PA (LAST!!!!) There is a difference between Phy Dmg and Phy Atk (You want Phy Dmg)

[nocturne cloak]

cool! I appreciate you for sharing this. taking note of both your inputs. 😁

[tawny leaf]

Might anyone explain the v1 v2 v3 v4 concept and how to tell which is which for any class?

I know we are talking vmatrix but nothing in your vmatrix labels any of this v1, v2 etc

[ionic bone]

Very easy to see for any class. Go to craft and you will see the order of them.

So v1 is luck of the draw.
V2 is ace in the hole,
V3 is phantoms mark
V4 is rift break

Same applies to any class when you go the vmatrix and see craft and that’s the order.

[tawny leaf]

Ty lol I’ve been asking this question and no one could explain it or understood what I was asking

[ionic bone]

Of course!

[tawny leaf]

Since it’s not a dump, what would you recommend for the burst rotation? I’ve been doing buffs,v3,v2,v1(wait for animation to stop)v4 then tempest, v2 and spam milles

[raven pier]

omg tyvm i swear i asked my friends which one's v1-v4, they just pointed to all of them at once

and im like: ???
and they were also: ???? to me man 😭 😭

never bothered to ask again, glad i came across this tday haha

[raven pier]

LMAO SAME

[bold bolt]

TIL

[ionic bone]

I go: buffs>V2>V1>V3>V4> venom burst/carte finale >tempest> will> v1> Mille

No problem everyone 😂 I’m sorry people didn’t explain sooner

[tawny leaf]

You’re still amazing

[eternal shard]

It depends on the battle duration. If for dungeon that only gives 1 min battle time like GHB or alike, use the short CD skills first, so that u can use twice. But for bossing that needs more than 1 min, use the longest CD burst first

[ionic bone]

My same rotation i get my v 2/3/4 all back to use them twice as well as tempted for ghb

Tempest*

You want to build your stacks for v3 so that way you get more damage off on it. Same with timing with DS4, it has felt better with the rotation of the skills as well as the MSM exclusive link skill that gives FD.

All about timing those skills and you will get far more out of it than anything else

[golden tide]

Im assuming you do this to bosses? If so, you can't do V1 a second time in that short span of time.

[ionic bone]

Huh ?

Yes you can lmao

It’s 15 second cooldown

That v1 was a typo

It’s v2

[hallow basin]

mackoy7837, that command is disabled in this channel.

[scenic bough]

Hi pro phantoms out there how much mdc do you guys need to solo normal vhilla?

[eternal shard]

How about will?

I’m just able to solo gloom, planning to go for will next

[scenic bough]

Tight clear maybe around 55-60 for solo, if 70 will be comfortable

With 6th job probably will be easier

[eternal shard]

Cool! Means after new patch I’ll start trying it out haha 😝

[little lagoon]

Hmm our hexa mastery skill has cooldown while others are the spammable skill?

[vernal holly]

Yes unfortunately
No mille mastery until the next set of 6th job skills

[ionic bone]

We sadly lose the tempest CD cutter from hyper buffs as well

Since it won’t apply

Mille will be a nice one for us on the next one

[vernal holly]

Still 45s with hyper but probably won’t be affected by luck of the draw cooldown reduction anymore

[ionic bone]

O word, idk why i thought they said it wasn’t impacted by it. Probs a misread. Good look. Ty

Oh that says original

Maybe it’s not

Guess we will have to test

[glossy sentinel]

Hmm. This doesn’t add enough buff for Phantom unfortunately. Was hoping for more cool down cut for Tempest tbh.

[vernal holly]

KMSM has it at 30seconds after initial click. Maybe at max level? Or maybe a future rebalance. Different game though, so we’ll see what we get after the patch.

[ionic bone]

Mhmmm, overall excited for hexestat buffs and another burst option. Gotta be patient and see

[wide isle]

Phantom's origin

[ionic bone]

Cooldown is 30 seconds for HEXA tempest btw everyone

[naive relic]

Is it useful? To upgrade to hexa tempest?

[ionic bone]

Yes

[wide isle]

How 30 Seconds? At max level?

[ionic bone]

Nah it’s lvl 1 lmao. Maybe tempest cooldown hyper is unintentionally working

[eternal shard]

Does this stats adds on top of the current tempest dmg, or it replace? Cuz it doesn’t seem much 🥲

[ionic bone]

It’s level one

15 seconds less CD plus all the rest is actually good

[eternal shard]

Isit more worth to keep the resource to unlock Hexa stat MDC?

[little lagoon]

How do you guys get the thing to unlock hexa tempst?

[eternal shard]

Just farm in the new map, it will drop like nodes stone

[scenic bough]

Is it me or the skill damage and hit count doesn’t seem upgraded at all

[ionic bone]

A chance for mdc. It’s only level 1. I have an order that i have planned out to work on things.

[naive relic]

What do you reckon phantoms should upgrade first?

[eternal shard]

Does phantom eventually get milleu Hexa skills?

[outer oyster]

anyone know the ideal burst rotation for Phantom now after 6th job?

[naive relic]

Origin auto triggers after hexa tempest. Sooooo

[ionic bone]

The next one will have mille

[ionic bone]

I did tempest upgrade. Then I’ll do V2, then V1. Then I’ll go into hexestat to a get main: mdc. Secondary: FD+IED. Then go into v3 then v4. Then after that I’ll see where I’m at. That’s the short term plan.

Which will still take a little even with the package

[outer oyster]

My take is if I'm already capping, I'm going straight into stat first

Priority for v skills depends on whether each individual skill is capping too. I might take V1 first over V2 to help consolidate the burst if necessary

Though V2 is probably still a better choice since it's used a lot more

[ionic bone]

Yes

[naive relic]

I went with stats cause low mdc user here. Really depends on which stage you at!

[eternal shard]

For Hexa stats, one upgrade will give how much mdc?

[naive relic]

Level 1-3 main stats is 30m, 10m per lvl

Level 4 onward will be higher

[eternal shard]

Not sure how accurate the values shown, but sent in my group

[bold bolt]

Extra 250m MDC?!?!? for level 10?

[ionic bone]

Good luck getting it lol

All rng

[bold bolt]

There it is

[marble kiln]

Yall, does anybody has the all level 1 hexa skills description for Phantom (or screenshot)?

I don't know if i should Go for stats or skill...

[stray trail]

If you are capping go for stats if you’re not go for skills my personal opinion

I’m at 106.7mdc and capping so i will be doing stats for more mdc

[split yew]

From solo c-lucid the will skill better then the main skill lol

[ionic bone]

That’s because we need to get more passive ied on it lol

At max level we get dumb ied for origin

50% ied and 25% ba

[split yew]

Yea but until they release the next stage its take time

[ionic bone]

What do you mean next stage? You can level your origin skill now

[deft talon]

I think he meant 2nd mastery core for mille? but even then..it doesn't get ied on it

[ionic bone]

Correct. I was talking about our origin gaining ied for leveling it up.

That’s why it’s not hitting as hard as a lvl 30 node lol.

[deft talon]

Yea, i would love to have ied on origin but making it to lv 10 seems impossible for me right now, so i chose to unlock hexa stats instead

[ionic bone]

Anyone upgrade any v skills yet with the hexe nodes?

[deft talon]

Those V skill hexa nodes will give 11% fd at lv 1 iirc the amount. Then +1% fd every level

[marble kiln]

And for HEXA Tempest? What's it upgrades?

[wide isle]

-15 Seconds cooldown (30 SEC cd now)

[marble kiln]

Just that? And damage? Or some kind new effect? 😫

[marble kiln]

Thx Bro, almost same thing then

[tawny leaf]

I let this go for so long and no one else had the answer so I’ll ask here. What stacks?

I want to make sure I’m not missing any damage

[ionic bone]

The v3 skill has a stacking debuff

@tawny leaf

And at max stacks attacking with v3 you do additional damage

[tawny leaf]

Ty Mr amazing

[simple escarp]

Who got phantom v1-2-3-4hexa details

[wide isle]

Just more final dmg

[wide isle]

I just have this one. But i believe it's the same for all vskills

[little lagoon]

Wow that's quite some final dmg

[elder moon]

Anyone tested what's the best mobbing set-up for phantoms in the new sacred power maps?

[deft talon]

If you're able to 1 hit, use showdown, if not use CL/Mille. I also equip rift break(teleport), Will's node, Ace in the hole, rose carte and origin.

[bold bolt]

will's node has a huge animation delay I wasn't using it. But maybe I should try

[deft talon]

Yea i don't like the cast time too but it hits 2nd platform when you're at bottom

[bold bolt]

does it also hit that extra high 2nd platform in the middle of SPF30?

[deft talon]

Uh, i'm ab-ing on the SP20 for monster card but it hits up to these platforms. you can try on 3rd map xD

[bold bolt]

Upvote this please: #msm-feedback-qol message

[ionic bone]

Thinking of taking hyper bad luck ward hp and adding tempest back since cap has gone up so much

[naive relic]

Does showdown do more dmg than chain lightning?

[buoyant portal]

Honestly been using bossing layout for mobbing and don’t even notice that big of a difference in exp

[ionic bone]

Just adjust your v3/4 to teleport. I use showdown and i do fine with 1 tapping

[deft talon]

Showdown does more skill dmg with 7 target count with 4 hit count vs CL with low skill dmg with 11 hit count and 5 target count. Pick whatever skills that can 1 hit mobs

[elder moon]

Showdown also summons dark shurikens (extra projectiles) which gives more kills if you can 1-hit with them

[buoyant portal]

I got 2 mille/temp/carte nodes and I think consensus is that the other 2 boost nodes should be memory 3/4 nodes, but is that really better than just getting more mile/temp/carte nodes with mem 3/4 as first skill for example? (So Mem 3/Mile/Temp node for example?)

[half jacinth]

Can someone explain which skills to prioritize and which stats

Just got to 250 so idk what I’m doing

[naive relic]

Oh man have been doing it wrongly then. Let me do showdown cause farming Sol fragments is the way!

[deft talon]

I love showdown because of 7 target count, which is pretty good for dailies if you haven't got M member to sweep

[ionic bone]

I rec going into fog forest and seeing what skills aren’t capping and level those up. If you are capping then go into your matrix and try to roll for main stat damage cap. If not put it into secondary. Tempest is a good upgrade so definitely snag that before your hexestat.

[raven pier]

How do i know whether or not have i capped?

[bold bolt]

showdown not good for me in SPF30. I can't 1 shot

[ionic bone]

@raven pier You check your battle results. Might need to go and look in your settings to see if you have it on or not.

[naive relic]

Haha. Chain lightning better?

[bold bolt]

I’m 100% sure I’m not one shotting with that either. Not in SPF 10 20 or 30.

My EXP gear probably making me weaker

[little lagoon]

Surprisingly I survive better with showdown compared to chain lightning

[ionic bone]

I took off my exp cane for my abso. Exp is kinda meh now that we are over 250.

Up to you guys if you want to push it or not

[split yew]

Hey, how much mobs u defeat per hour?
That mine, maybe someone else have better skill wheel?

[little lagoon]

I think it depends on the pt size and class

[split yew]

I play solo for more drops.. class is phantom lol

[split yew]

.

[scenic bough]

Anyone using exp necro to try one hit?

[naive relic]

Similar kill count! But my drops only 1/ hour

[split yew]

Im with 100% drop rate and solo party

[split yew]

I got abso exp wep but for drops i using my main wep cuz he 1 hit..

[little lagoon]

Ah I see 😆 never tried solo

[deft talon]

Erda and fragments only drop from your kills. Duo or trio might be good if you still want some exp.

[bold bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/woah-sunglasses-mesmerized-amazed-gif-10595322

[ionic bone]

I do duo occasionally but mainly solo rn

Toss on a rune FD node to help instead of party exp

[bold bolt]

how many are you averaging per hour solo?

drop rate?

[ionic bone]

How many drops or kill?

My drop rate isn’t the best. 70 right now. Been lazy to push for class one for dojo

[vernal holly]

Sacred 20/30
chain lightning
Arrow platter
Inferno aura

Solo

[bold bolt]

so SPF20 solo better for us?

[vernal holly]

I got more kills in sf30 but less drops over time versus sf20. So ima stick to 20

[ionic bone]

I’ll try CL tonight. I was doing showdown

Feel like CL will reach higher

Ty for the tests

[little lagoon]

Ty for the info. Will try sf20 solo later

[mossy pilot]

81% drop
170% speed

[torpid depot]

what should use my slots on

[mossy pilot]

All buffs from craft

[vernal holly]

Tested 30 i am going to stay here actually lol

[bold bolt]

I tried for SPF20 but eventually decided on SPF30 too

the map is more narrow

Chain lightning is working out too

Even though it doesn't 1 shot sometimes

[bold bolt]

is this with drop rate gear?

[vernal holly]

What weapon are you using? I run my main weapon instead of exp weapon

[vernal holly]

Yep!

[bold bolt]

I only have 1 set. I don't have a separate EXP gear

F2P struggles

So pretty much my main gear

except the accessories being EXP

maybe I should remove EXP accessories and go straight dmg

[vernal holly]

Yah i use accessories with Drop rate potential now no more exp for me

[bold bolt]

Are we no longer prioritizing exp now?

[vernal holly]

Its situational depending on what you want? If you want rankings & exp and some drops I think exp gear with alittle bit of drop rate is okay (with duo or trio party)

But if you want to farm for the drops alone for dps i would ditch all exp & party and go solo drop rate

[bold bolt]

You right

ranking never

[vernal holly]

already lost my rank 8 😬

[bold bolt]

exogen joyce copy

never getting to you guy s

[vernal holly]

I’d never catch them either 🤣

[vernal holly]

Ya definitely sacred 30 for me this is 98% drop rate

[little lagoon]

21% drop rate 😂

Mine is a joke compared to the 98% drop rate

[deft talon]

I too didn't bother for exp set but i encourage to make some drop gears for bossing/solo farming

Should I swap to SPF30?

[mossy pilot]

Yes try

The drop system doesn’t make any sense.
Nothing can drop for two hours, and then suddenly 10 drops come in the next two hours.

Im sure there blessed channels

[deft talon]

Yea it's strange. i get 2 frags within 5mins and then 1 more only at the next hour or something

Gotta get more DR on accessories i guess.

[bold bolt]

what the hell 98% drop rate?!?!?!?

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-get-out-no-hell-gif-10700690

[lapis condor]

what gear are you guys using can’t survive long in spf30

[ionic bone]

Do you have buff pets

[little lagoon]

🔥

[simple escarp]

Can i ask what hyper skill bring now?

Dk or nl~better

[little lagoon]

I'm using dk for farming and pala for bossing

[scenic notch]

Anyone know if phantom can hold poison in cwill and wouldn't die to explosion for not atking if he holds mille?

[vernal holly]

I prefer dk

[vernal holly]

https://tenor.com/view/horrified-funny-face-dang-ice-cube-gif-12839544880309883282

[ionic bone]

I’m 4 frags away from lvl 7 origin. The grind is real

[vernal holly]

Nice! Im like 48 from lv8. Fiending for that level 10 🤤

[vernal holly]

Do you need help surviving? You can try magic guard and path finder 3rd job pet buff + dark knight hyper skill

[ionic bone]

Same though, that ied is going to help so much

[rough plume]

Do we unlock all hexa matrix skills ? Which one to focus on first ?

[ionic bone]

Depends if you cap or not

If you aren’t you can level it

[oblique spoke]

if im close to cap on most skills but feel like i need more FD/EID to cap should i focus those in Hexa matrix instead? // played for 7 months and need addvice

got all Hexa skills/improvements at lvl 1

[split yew]

What do u mean u "feel" u can check it.. if u cap focus on max dmg if not upgrade the orgin skill

[oblique spoke]

Thnx. But i have 45m cap and i do about 40 - 43m dmg with most of my skills. Should i still uppgrade skills or focus MD/FD/EID

[ionic bone]

Mdc through exalts and hexematrix

Don’t put a mdc on your weapon

Passively level your hyper stats for fd/phydmg/crit dmg/ba

I’d ignore additional damage chance

And cap tbh

As you grow your gear as stats since you only have 45m cap. You will grow with necro gear with passives and same with going to abso. I rec getting full necro first especially your weapon.

All your stats will go up slowly with those set bonuses as well. The game is a marathon not a sprint. You will get burnt out if you push too much

@oblique spoke

[oblique spoke]

Thnx man! Will do. And good info! Will take that to heart 😁

[sonic birch]

Phantom cant steal Final cut in MSM right? Unless they changed that

theres a screenshot in the patch notes with final cut on a phantom skill wheel

[little lagoon]

Yep I think we can.

[deft talon]

You can always steal it. wym

[bold bolt]

What class and job is final cut?

[humble jewel]

How are y’all setting up presets

[deft talon]

Db 4th job

[simple escarp]

Can i ask what skill u guys do in sc
Hyper skill
Poison or dk skill

[simple escarp]

Final cut useful?

[vernal holly]

for me got 1k more with poison dart versus dk

[vernal holly]

No use cross bones buccaneer pet buff +25% phys damage

[bold bolt]

what is sc?

[lunar karma]

Sharenian culvert

What jewels are you guys using?

[bold bolt]

Thanks

All these acronyms

[sonic birch]

wait seriously, didnt they remove it from phantom, unless that was pcmaple

[vernal holly]

no clue. But it’s not as impactful for us in MSM as it is on PC

Still see phantoms on pc using it though. But the buff there is OP + 100% uptime on FD buff

[vernal holly]

Purple BA

Blue PD should be fine too

[earnest wigeon]

can anyone guide me on the skill wheel for lvl 250 phantom as well as the skills i should steal when bossing

[vernal holly]

for me full DPS
dark sight
meditation/monkey magic
Cross surge (dark knight 3rd job)
Cross bones (4th job buccaneer)
Dark thirst/poison dart (dark knight hyper/NL hyper)

Anyone know what to do for hexa after origin lv10?

[ionic bone]

I’m gunna go back into tempest to 10 probs

Then work on v2/v1 to 10

Then v3/4

I need like 50 more fragments until I’m lvl 10 origin. Have all my bosses tomorrow so hopefully i can get 30+ tonight and the rest in bossing

[outer oyster]

anyone feel like frag droprates been nerfed?

been farming at ~70%+ dr past 2 days, have gone 6 hours without a single drop before

and it doesn't even out afterwards either