Buccaneer

[knotty turret]

preset useful because of the 0.5s cooldown, but probably better to keep it separate so you don't accidentally kill yourself during Lotus

[brazen osprey]

Finally master crafted my first ancient weapon, on first try too

My attack went up like 30–50% that’s insane how much the rank up adds to your CP

[knotty turret]

Wondering which 3 buffs you all would choose if you're on a budget

crossbones is a must, along with that I've put stimulating conversation and luck of the die

unfortunately have to redo my hyper skills as well since hook bomber is no longer needed

[shut tusk]

I mean we did say there is no need for hook bomber hypers. it's always been all octo hypers, Crossbones BA and FD

and if you're on a budget for pets, pretty sure you can always get silver pets to cover all your buffs for less than 50m total

literally sell 1 or 2 nodes and you have all your buffs and use coupons

[rose bramble]

I never put stimulating conversation on pet. I always use it manually

[knotty turret]

silver pets only do 1 buff slot each right

I had hook bomber hypers for better mobbing pre 200, gotta reset those points now

Bucc V3 is just amazing

[shut tusk]

nvm even if you do silver pets you only have two pets, just buy the blue ones. they shouldn't be that much more expensive than the silver ones

[knotty turret]

a set of silver ends up like 60m, cheapest set of blue i can find is 180m currently

I'm doing fine with 3 silvers right now, basically have to be okay with not having V1 and V2. works out for farming though

[supple flint]

Why not just put V2 instead of stimulating conversion ?

[rose bramble]

Gg lol set of silver here is just 10m

[supple flint]

Silvers tend to drop a lot when pet pulls start

[hearty wave]

Depending on the map, no v2 is better

[knotty turret]

V2 can kill a max of like 40 mobs before it runs out, V3 can do at least 80. Stimulating conversation because currently too weak to 1 hit at AF90

[supple flint]

You're not 1 hitting with stimulating conversion anyways right ?

Unless you are, there's really no point to having it on.

Or if it reduces your 3 hits to 2 hits

[knotty turret]

I'm 2 or 1 hitting with SC vs 2-3 without, with a few more levels on V3 i think I'll 1 hit easily while SC active

[knotty turret]

Bucc seems to be almost top 10 in terms of line count right now

[shut tusk]

is that supposed to mean something? not every boss is going to stand still for you. anything in those data sheets should be taken with a grain of salt when bossing

[rose bramble]

^

[knotty turret]

Means it's come a long way since the remaster

For me personally V3 fills the hole that losing Double Blast left

[haughty surge]

To be fair, I agree that bucc has come a long way esp since I started from day1 and had seen many I taught come and go.

I personally don’t really bothered with the dps list most of times cos more often those are very end game gears. And now with absolab ard and lvl 60 gears, to me it’s very hard to compared all the classes cos mdc is rising.

But see it in another way that the dps chart ppl put in a lot effort to do up, can be used as a gauge for newcomer or ppl who wants to rr for reference.

End of day what I always tell ppl is to focus on the bossing mechanic. Esp for some of us the focus are more on bossing haha. For ab wise, yup it’s also a lot better now.

[knotty turret]

Wondering how much you guys would be paying for an inherit 40 CD knuckle in your servers

[supple flint]

max SF ?

I mean, 22 SF ancients are all minimally fodder prices already

probably around 6-7b minimally lol

[knotty turret]

Like 22-24 SF

Minimal 5b right

[supple flint]

yea

[knotty turret]

Makes sense

Thanks

[fathom spade]

i forgot from where i saw some put mercedes higher than pally

[fathom spade]

i like how v3 is hitting vertically better

[knotty turret]

I think Pally is higher because of Echo, otherwise Merc is higher

[fathom spade]

yeah i think its around there

actually now im abit regretting making dw on same acct as bucc

else i could just carry myself lmao

[knotty turret]

V3 hits vertically as well as behind, 46 lines and 300+% skill damage at high level. Beast skill

[fathom spade]

[fathom spade]

very beast

oh ya also

that hit count list

21k is for multi content

15k is for solo for pally

this is the original list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yUwSaHJmXBOvc-eI0UD7EMVyu4WUc2OwjkXPbMa4AWI/edit#gid=1443843958

[knotty turret]

These are only whale numbers I guess...

I've enjoyed bucc the most out of everything I've played tbh that's why decided to main it after trying 4 other 200s

V3 really sold it for me

[fathom spade]

yeah bucc is not bad now

catching up

[knotty turret]

Once you do enough damage it kills so fast you don't have to worry about survival

[fathom spade]

yep hehe

but sadly cant make bucc my main

though it can be my main pirate heh

[knotty turret]

Why

[fathom spade]

then my necro 2h will go to waste

LOL

[knotty turret]

Sell 😂

Wait for CoK revamp then sell

[fathom spade]

no !

ya wait and see how

[round rose]

Hey guys! I’m pretty interested in maining bucc with the revamp of the kit. I’m basically f2p. How does this class perform with that in mind? Thank you! (I know I’m never going to be number 1 dps or anything like that)

[knotty turret]

Survivability in higher SF fields is a bit difficult at start but then once you hit level 200 the V skills are amazing

[round rose]

Thank you for the response! It’s been a while since I’ve played so I don’t really know weapons that well. Is this one worth buying?

[knotty turret]

No, not worth

[round rose]

What would you recommend as a starter weapon with around 700m?

[knotty turret]

Probably a non emblem mythic or a unique emblem weapon that you can start working on

[round rose]

Alright thank you.

[small stream]

👀

[fathom spade]

what's your budget?

[shut tusk]

starter weapon you can find a random mythic with some SF for that price or unique/legendary CD emblem jaihin knuckle for that price

the random mythic is going to outweight the emblem weapon until you rank up the emblemed weapon

[shut tusk]

it'll honestly depend how far you go with bucc. maxing boost nodes will definitely give you boost in damage, but maxing V skills is pretty important for bucc. however the funding required to max V skills for bucc is substantially lower than most other classes since we really only need to max our main V skills.

damage is nice, "low" cooldown is nice. 90s for lightning form, 60s for LotD

[knotty turret]

This reminds me, why is Overdrive even in the game.. exceedingly garbage skill. Would love someone to change my opinion on this.

Though Loaded Dice and Pirates banner are both amazing

[supple flint]

On PC they made it directly increase/decrease the att range . Idk why they changed it to PDI lol

[knotty turret]

Yeah and unlike the other 2, keeping overdrive at level 1 literally makes you do less damage lmao. Just unbelievable

[supple flint]

It doesnt really work well until lvl 15 ish and you need a good weapon

Wouldn’t equip it over DCO unless there’s a pala in your party

Even then I wouldn’t equip it lol it’s pretty hard to time it with your burst skills

Unless you manually use it, but then you’re losing 1-2 attacks just to use that skill which kind of defeats the purpose of a short buff

Also obviously does nothing if you’re capping 🤣

[knotty turret]

Exactly. So for the people who will have high enough attack that it might be useful for, it's actually even more useless because they're already capping lmao.

The skill needs a rework imo

[tall vault]

what hyper stat to level for bucc?

[shut tusk]

hyper stat same for everyone, FD, ADI, third one is dependent on where you are at in the game, mid game (mythic emblems/ mythic weapon) go PD. end game (necros) go MDC

hyper skill, all octo and CB PA and BR or BR and CD if you dont hit cap

[tall vault]

Thanks

[grim tapir]

Anyone got tips for sub 200 bucc?

Having so much difficulty surviving 168 and 180 with a mythic wrap and boss set

[rose bramble]

@grim tapir consider only using octo punch. It’s a bit leech as it only kills 3 and has short range but it might help you survive

[knotty turret]

use only octo and the spinning kick skill to stun mobs. though if you're dying 168 then it seems to be just an HP problem because there's no magic attacks

[grim tapir]

Yeah it sounds like i need a better weap

Just rocking a mythic utgard

[knotty turret]

how much HP do you have

[grim tapir]

No idea off the top of my head

Prob 68 or 70k

[knotty turret]

you should have at least 70k+ to reasonably survive SF180 and use V9 pots at 90%

[grim tapir]

Yeah i have that

Utgard doesnt cut it

[knotty turret]

yeah I think that might be it then, see if you could replace with inherit 40

[magic escarp]

hi guys, should i exalt my armo first or weapon ?

after 40

[fleet acorn]

How many buccs running Ark here ? 🤔

Any Tipps and tricks for me ?

[shut tusk]

if you dont have 120k hp, stay behind ark, however if you're taking aggro, stay on the side where the big dps is. if you dont have 120k hp, you can use the v1 orbs as an i-frame for lightning, you have enough range to dodge lightning if you stand far enough

there's really not much else besides that

just watch the orb on top of your head to make sure you're not griefing the blue and red orbs

[haughty surge]

For a start play safely. Figure out the range of the lightning, and from there slowly learn the sequence of the skill ark cast. Run a few times will prob get u more familiar with the mechanic.

Mainly look out for reflect, and hit the right orb pillar to prevent the orb from going to the middle.

Sometimes get scolded by the team a few times also will enable us to learn the mechanic faster 🤣

[fleet acorn]

Thank you @shut tusk and @haughty surge ❤️🫶🏻

Can I ask you guys for your cap ?

Atm I’m around 14,5m but don’t have mdc soul

[haughty surge]

https://bit.ly/3q5BaRy

this is a very old guide my guildie used to translate. can use it as reference.

but this was done when ark just came out. but still good for referencing.

my cap is around 19.0m now at the moment if i recall.

[shut tusk]

i have 21m

i usually use my orbs for lightning attacks, but you have to know when his attacks are coming. if you don't know his attack pattern, you can use them during damage reflect

[fleet acorn]

Yeah I think I’m doing that

[fleet acorn]

21m cap and 19m cap you guys are crazy

My actual gear without mdc 14,5m cap

Not started to exalt my other gear atm

[shut tusk]

actually they nerfed ark/ magnus' damage so idk how much lightning does now

if you're surviving, i guess it's okay

but generally if you dont have enough HP, you should stay behind him

[fleet acorn]

Yeah I should survive, I’m at around 130k hp

130,6k hp I think

[shut tusk]

oh wow 130k hp with that gear?

[fleet acorn]

Hyper body

[shut tusk]

that's very unexpected

i would've assumed around like 105k

maybe less

maybe you have HP potentials?

[fleet acorn]

Nah with luck of the die and hyper body 130k

[shut tusk]

i forgot they changed that too

ooooo smart

cheating the HP system

[fleet acorn]

Why not if I can take part in ark hahahahaha

[fleet acorn]

Also some good hp pot

My weapon have two lines hp 2,xx % per line

Also some equipment of me have hp pot

I hitted around 500m GD wit 12,5m cap I’m wondering how much I’ll do now

Maxed yesterday my max dmg hyper

[shut tusk]

niceee

[fleet acorn]

What would you say is now possible with 14.5m ? 600m ?

[shut tusk]

no idea. at 21m i get 1.05b GD

[fleet acorn]

[grim tapir]

i thought they just nerfed the boss HP? they nerfed dmg too?

[shut tusk]

you're right, i thought it was both, but it's just magnus' meteor damage that got nerfed

[rose bramble]

Dang that guy is stronger than me

Whale

[fleet acorn]

Bucc on other servers also a rare class ?

[ancient scarab]

[haughty surge]

quite decent if you are a low spender or f2p. slowly works on the gear. generally you are maybe 40% there.

i would say for now can slowly work on exalting. hopefully u are lucky enough. flame can slowly do with event flame or unique flame gives quite good numbers too now.

once exalt done, can work on emblem which is another long process.

[shut tusk]

bucc can get away with a little bit of low spending since we cap fairly easily. I would suggest @haughty surge advice. you don't have to do everything all at once since you're just starting ark/magnus as well.

exalting is quite nice for more mdc, but pain once you're on a fail streak. don't refine until it's lvl 40 as it's easier to exalt with unrefined gear.

unique flame score of 600+ atk or legendary flame for 800+ atk. these will scale accordingly to your gear. if you need advice on whether to keep or pass, you can let us know generally when starting out exp flames are best, but as you progress HP/MP/ BA becomes more significant.

emblems you can get to lvl 3/4. you don't have to go to lvl 5 if your budget doesn't allow for it, but this you can start out slow and once everything is level 4 is when you push for lvl 5 emblems and they're fairly cheap to come by nowadays.

[haughty surge]

I had a double line flame to mp. lol actually im quite surprised that mp gives quite nice flame numbers too for bucc. not sure about the other class if mp gives them low flame numbers or not. 😂

oh ya and before you add ark/mag.. i hope your tricore skills (at least for octopunch) should be at min lvl 40. That is 1 impt criteria for ark/mag.

[fleet acorn]

Thank you for the help an the advices

And yeah my trios are lv60
V1 around lv12 or 13
V2 lv 6
V1 lv1

[harsh dragon]

Hi guys is this worth getting

[rose bramble]

no

[harsh dragon]

Too expensive?

[fleet acorn]

Yeah way to expensive

[fleet acorn]

I would say you can get the knuckle for around 500-600m

Be patience

[harsh dragon]

Thanks guys

[shut tusk]

probably even less than 500-600m but idk what server that is

[harsh dragon]

I am in Asia 2 Zenith

[grim tapir]

is bucc ab post 200 just v3? anyone got a vid of what that looks like in msm

[rose bramble]

No, you have v1, v2 and octo punch

It’s the same as what it looks like in PCMS

[grim tapir]

o i thought someone said v3 changed bucc farming lol oops

[rose bramble]

Oh sorry I misread

Bucc AB depends on what you need

I use V2 and V3 and nautilus and hook bomber

V3 only is okay but it can get clunky bc of the 0.5 sec skill lock out

[fleet acorn]

I use octopunch for bossing and farming…

Better to switch to hook bomber for farming ?

[rose bramble]

If you can’t survive then yeah. But otherwise I use hook bomber

[ancient scarab]

All I use is V3 and LOTD to train.

90% of the time my char don’t attack. Lord of the deep kills everything instantly

I use to use hook to train until I realize my character literally never cast it so swapping to V3 is a no brainer since it’s a way bigger range

[fleet acorn]

I using v3 and octopunch in combination for farming…

[fleet acorn]

You don’t have the problem with the testing exp ?

I get so often the notification that I’m resting and the countdown cuz of LOTD

[rose bramble]

Yeah it happens. So you can take off lotd if you want

[ancient scarab]

Party has resting turned on so I don’t lose exp

[fleet acorn]

Don’t know why nexon doing this to us…

[hearty wave]

I just use v3

@grim tapir

[grim tapir]

Whoa AF380 is so small

[hearty wave]

The range of v3 hits far like behind your character and on different plats

[knotty turret]

It does, massively

V3 would be all I would use if I consistently one shot

[winged pilot]

Do we need pets to cast lord of the deep? Or is it a toggle skill? My bucc is used for farming atm with no pets, not sure if I should craft

[shut tusk]

yes you need pets

and you should craft it and serpent vortex as well

[cursive haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atACoGazj_Y

Buccaneer burst potential is insane with V4

Disclaimer, this content is not an accurate representation of the class overall dmg potential. Rather it showcases its burst potential.

[rose bramble]

Uh huh

[pseudo steppe]

Which hyper stats is worth adding? Thanks

[haughty surge]

Depending on how funded you are… generally I go for fd first if the other gears aren’t build up fully yet.

[ancient scarab]

Dmg ignore, kbk res, mag dmg

[sturdy reef]

If you're unsure, then always go pexp then exp

[knotty turret]

It used to be a toggle, now it's a pet skill because they changed it into a burst skill

[knotty turret]

V4 looks really cool

[fleet acorn]

@shut tusk im too late but I saw it already

Gz I think you are the first Bucc who cleared Damien

[knotty turret]

Oh wtf people are clearing Damien now?

[shut tusk]

Thank you! @ancient scarab has also cleared as well

[hearty wave]

I wish I could clear Damien

😳🥺

[fleet acorn]

@ancient scarab nice boy gz

@shut tusk they took you for TL ?

[shut tusk]

yea

I'm not the strongest in the group, but Doesun has 4 set abso, all lvl 50s and he's top 3 so it says a lot how strong buccs can be

10m cap difference between the two of us is crazy

[haughty surge]

It’s a mdc game. When absolab came out. The dist between the whale and semi funded pull wider again. 😩

Tbh alittle kind of demoralising haha. But yea still enjoying the game with casual bossing within what’s still possible. Just that the feel to upgrade those little bits of dmg kinda die off.

[haughty surge]

Actually maybe cos some of the funded bucc didn’t really spoke out or prob we been quietly playing, I feel bucc dmg right now is among the top half (if hv equivalent mdc) due to the strong burst of lines their v1-v3 skills.

[shut tusk]

yea after getting hat and outfit to 46 and consistently failing, I sorta gave up exalting and now doing abso stones. and that's even more demoralizing

0/19 now on attempts

bucc is very very good even when lvl 40 necros

it's just when other people have higher cap, you're still in the middle of the pact

[haughty surge]

Haha I was lucky I managed to get my fafnir btm lvl 50 to chaos and to absolab. Quite a bit of dmg boost cos of the high rise in mdc. Other den that I gave up exalting cos most of my gears are at 4/5 (lvl 40 only 😭) and after failing few times I gave up exalting too haha.

Same like u I’m just trying my luck with trying to get absolab gear at lvl 40 😂. Still quite a good boost if successful haha.

[shut tusk]

oooo congrats that must've been so surprising and relieving

5% to pass and knowing if you failed you would need chaos reduction

[past fable]

Absos are luckier when they aren’t lvl 50

[shut tusk]

[haughty surge]

🎉

[knotty turret]

That's some insane luck

[fleet acorn]

Really ? I saw Bicc line wise one of the top tier classes atm

Around 17k lines in 3min

[shut tusk]

bucc can easily cap with decent funding

i wouldnt really look at line count, but bucc's low CD v skills make it very likeable so it feel like you're strong at every point

and bucc mobility is nice

[fleet acorn]

My cap at 14,5m atm and I’m capping in Ark with 390% CD, 160% BA, 160% phy dmg, 120% phy atk and around 36k phy atk 🫠

@shut tusk you maxed your vskills and you full necro ?

[shut tusk]

lvl 46 hat/outfit and lvl 42 shoulder, everything else is lvl 40. Lightning form is maxed, V2 and V3 is maxed

[shut tusk]

gotta land mdc and get more necros

im sure you can still hit cap if you get any of them

[fleet acorn]

Sec I’ll show you max equipment

That’s my actual gear

The refined shoes are lv 40 BA emblem and ready for necro but I would transfer them to a friend who want to help me with necro

With this set up I’m hitting around 370m in GD

And 4,5k culvert full buffed

[rose bramble]

Hmm feels kinda low, definitely needs more nodes

I’m necroless with 34k phy atk and I hit 5200 in Culvert and at least 600m-700m in GD

[agile swallow]

Tbh what’s the strongest pirate class

[shut tusk]

whatever the wallet provides

[agile swallow]

Lol true true

[agile swallow]

I’m maining a ark right now it’s nice to play

[shut tusk]

pirates are weird because some are heavily relied on micro managing your skills like corsair and cannoneer or can be simple like bucc and shade with one attacking preset

but i think the strongest rn is either ark, bucc or cannoneer

mech and corsair is still decently strong but not many play

heavy summon reliant

[fleet acorn]

Shiah that’s crazy bro with 34k

Would you show me your vmatrix @rose bramble

600m in GD unbuffed ?

[ancient scarab]

Be great my fellow bucc’ees

[fleet acorn]

Bro that’s insane 🤯❤️

Wish that’s some crazy scores

Best culvert on our EU server is from a guildie and he hitting around 14k

[knotty turret]

Legend

[primal light]

Anyone can show me what is the perfect nodes for Bucc? Thanks a lot. 😛

[shut tusk]

it's in the pinned comments

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but it's Octopunch, Rage and Nautilus

[fleet acorn]

Really bad run but was my first run and I wasn’t ready but my guildies carried my ass

[shut tusk]

niceee

[fleet acorn]

Thank you bro, I hope my next run will be better dps wise I should strong as the 9th rank and that’s around 220b

[shut tusk]

good luck! definitely rough on bucc if it's your first time running

[fleet acorn]

Yeah very hard but I’ll become better

[haughty surge]

Good job. How long did your team did to clear it? For first attempt it’s pretty decent actually. As you all progress and practice, the run will be smoother and less death counter used = more dps output.

Must always remember such bossing is team effort.

Congrats on ur first passing! Many more to come! 🎉

[fleet acorn]

Thank you brother

The team is experienced im the only new one in the team

[oblique moon]

Hi guys

Im newbie can i see ur v3 skill

I need advice plz

[primal light]

Does anyone have translated 4th v skill description from kms? 😂

[haughty surge]

No idea 😂.

[mental shale]

(48 x 12) + 672 = 1,248 lines

[knotty turret]

120 second cooldown??? Wtf is that?

[mental shale]

Its normal. That is a strong burst V skill. All strong burst V skills have a 2 min cooldown. Like Paladin V3, Dark Knight V3 etc. Nothing new.

[haughty surge]

actually the current v3 skill also considered as burst skill. quite OP tbh.

[primal light]

v2 more burst than v3 haha

[haughty surge]

i feel v3 more thou but both are good lol. bucc kinda becomes a burst char ever since it changed. i like how it is now. lol.

the only thing i miss was the super saiyan full orange image. lol

[fleet acorn]

Don’t remember me the old times

[fleet acorn]

The orbs was like Genkidama 🥹

[haughty surge]

haha thats the only old time which i miss the most. cos everyone in the bossing can see where i am

[fleet acorn]

Bucc blast was also crazy

Like Kamehameha

[dim bough]

Can anyone help a homie out by letting me know what a pre-200 AB wheel looks like? I'd appreciate it. Merry Christmas.

[shut tusk]

hook bomber, nautilus and time leap @dim bough

[dim bough]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[distant drum]

Where can I find Buccaneer AB skill wheel?!

[haughty surge]

Literally shift ur eyes look up by 2 comments lol. 😂

[shut tusk]

[ancient scarab]

Blast was 173746373 times better than bomber

[haughty surge]

195885948473 x cooler too 🤣

[knotty turret]

Really miss that skill

[supple flint]

It’s ok, at least hook bomber hits 2 lanes in TY

[knotty turret]

Blast was way 😎 er

[dim bough]

Why did they get rid of Blast?

[knotty turret]

It didn't fit their new remastered theme I guess.. I personally really really miss that skill though. It was beautiful

[supple flint]

The real question is why did they get rid of dragon strike

[knotty turret]

Forgot about dragon strike. I miss that one the most

[haughty surge]

Don’t think dragonstrike is much useful after they changed the new crit calculation. The transition time between octopunch to dragonstrike is alr a slight loss of dps as there is a slight lag time between those. Good to make do without if you ask me.

Last time for me personally, dragonstrike was good becos I can used it to “mark” the boss and it’s easier for me to see where the boss is with the icon above among my skills. Lol.

[dim bough]

I watched old footage of what Bucc used to be, and the SSJ form was pretty dope. I feel like they wanted to be more maritime with the theme. Got away from the orange and went straight up blues and purples?

But to me, it feels like another Thunder Breaker with all the lightning and stuff.

[knotty turret]

Double blast was a god tier mobbing skill

[dim bough]

Insane.

[haughty surge]

Power of mdc haha. Congrats 💪🏻💪🏻.

Could be higher for u… I saw the dice no. 😜

[ancient scarab]

Yea I forgot to roll

[keen lagoon]

What's our perfect trios?

[grim tapir]

check pins

[keen lagoon]

How? Discord ruined discord

[grim tapir]

mobile or pc?

[keen lagoon]

Mobile

[grim tapir]

mobiles messed up. can only check pins in the main thread and you can't search it lol

[grim tapir]

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[keen lagoon]

Awesome dude tyvm

[keen lagoon]

You guys solve the debate between PA and CD hyper skill?

[keen lagoon]

So... basically we just octopunch until lv200 when we can just walk around not octopunching?

[haughty surge]

if im not wrong hook bomber will do. unless cant survive well, no harm putting octopunch to help clear the mobs infront abit.

for hyper skill goes with CD now. personally PA was good for me in the past before the revamp of the new crit calculation as i also focus on non crit line.

with fair trade (assuming you have necro) and a built up bucc, i would go in on cd. since there pretty much will not have any uncrit lines anymore and these cd would also helps with all the additional lines dmg.

[keen lagoon]

Well, lv170 now and can survive sf168

[true vault]

I was bossing in chaos Zak and there was a bucc with no emblems but a Mythic weapon and a shark tooth set over level 200. He killed the boss as fast as someone with necro should, are buccs OP?

[rose bramble]

No buccsucc

[haughty surge]

It’s just burst dmg for bucc. If your gears are build correctly even with lvl 30 weap and all full set lvl 30 I would believe any chars also can kill czak in an instant (within 5s-10s).

But I personally right now feels bucc dps can be considered one of the top tier thou.

[keen lagoon]

Pretty happy with bucc so far. Lv181 at sf180. Not 100% comfortable leaving ab at sf180 overnight, but with a bishop it's been fine all day

Once I max lvl my mythic helm, boots, and belt I should have no issues there at all

[keen lagoon]

Almost 188 now and sf180/184 are no issues overnight. Not super stoked on the knuckle fodder availability on TS.. should be 200 by the end of next week

[knotty turret]

200 by end of next week is optimistic, you have 24/7 auto battle?

[stable osprey]

Hey guys, how is the Buccanner survivability ?

Need to survive in SF 180

[fathom spade]

survivability is bad

u have to rely on rng

[keen lagoon]

Yeh I can. I'm 191 now. Should be 192 by end of day ez with ~40% or so going into tomorrow morning

[keen lagoon]

Use octopunch and turning kick only

[knotty turret]

Top bottom + rest mythic or very very good weapon should do the trick

[keen lagoon]

I don't have survival issues at all anymore, but I'm full mythic (only shoes and bot aren't lv30) w/ top/bottom. Lv36 mythic wep cd

But yah I'll easily be 192.5 by tomorrow morning. Already 191.25 and will ab til 2pm, then 5hrs of EoS, then back to ab until 7am tomorrow

So maybe 193 🙂

[stable osprey]

Hey , Can you send me a picture of your equipments (that you survive sf180 with) ?

[keen lagoon]

Sure, I will tomorrow if that's okay

[stable osprey]

Yes ofc , you can send it to me DM 🙂 thanks !

[fathom spade]

requires high invest on mythic just to survive there

when other class can do it with uniques and legends haha

[keen lagoon]

Yeh probably why not many peeps play bucc

[fathom spade]

not much utility kit

u practically just punch n aoe n die

but i still got it to 200

while watching it all day

[stable osprey]

bucc is that bad ?

[fathom spade]

yes if u not funding it well at sf180 and 194 will die easily

[stable osprey]

I have lvl 195 bucc ,I'm try to level him up to 200 just to be a node farmer

[keen lagoon]

I'm 194.3 right now. Boring af. Hoping 200 makes it less boring

I'll do paladin (165), wa (120), or bw next (179)

Still no idea what I wana main...just know it ain't adele

[keen lagoon]

I forgot ur pic today, sorry man

[stable osprey]

no worries , send it when you are free 🙂

[keen lagoon]

Dawn warrior looks insane after remaster

[haughty surge]

lol if there is effort to do it for sf180 / 194… in my opinion abit weird to leave the gear at unique legendary instead of building a little more to mythic. 😂.

No right or wrong thou. Just enjoy what we are playing 🤣

[keen lagoon]

@fathom spade u have a dw?

[haughty surge]

End of day, enjoy the game.

good to play chars that makes us happy or keep us in the game. Quite fun to play diff chars and learning their way to do bossing.

[haughty surge]

I think not many ppl play bucc was because back in the days, shades and thunderbreaker are the more popular choices and bucc was 1 of the weakest character in the past. lol. Hence bucc is one of the chars that went thru lots of rebalancing.

The only useful purpose for bucc was really for the time leap when the cd was still 80s (phantom was 180s cd back in those days) before Nexon revamp everything. During that period bucc Time Leap is so impt for the DPS to deal more dps especially for Shade and Evans. And for the old fort LOL.

[fathom spade]

yes

[fathom spade]

agreed

[knotty turret]

It's a good farmer if you have good gear to 1 shot with V3

[knotty turret]

Yes, best part is most buffs are becoming passive instead

[keen lagoon]

After remaster, how do you think it will be for bossing? Trying to decide between pally and dw

[fathom spade]

pally > dw

boring but many buffs and iframe and revive vs fun factor and strong new effects and skill animations

this is what i received based on feedback from others i asked

words not 1 to 1 but this my conclusion

[keen lagoon]

Ffs

Wish I knew what I wanted to main. Too many choices

[fathom spade]

ikr

i wan to main all too

[night zephyr]

Main what you like. Just know that support classes are important and will always be needed

[fathom spade]

yes

main pally u are all in one

support dps tank

ezpz

[night zephyr]

If you like warriors paladin is wanted, then I'd say the class after that the provides support maybe demon slayer?

[fathom spade]

na

we talking about dw or pally

[night zephyr]

Warriors

Ok

Dw is just dps

[fathom spade]

because koc remaster

the point of msm is mostly to dps haha

when you too geared the support factor is really low

less support required

because more race of time

[night zephyr]

If you aren't a whale gonna be hard as a pure DPS lol

[fathom spade]

yes

[keen lagoon]

Dw or pally I have a full set of 20/40 myths rdy

Might do dw tho for fun factor and just hope I like it post-200. Worst case scenario I can move the stuff to pally lol

[fathom spade]

fun factor is

v1 v2 v3

idk how much changes to it

cant recall

[grim tapir]

pally's not even a support anymore. they're just a dps class with a lot of iframes

most end game people have necro and eventually all end game will have absolab weapons with fair trade. Noble Demand is not even needed in most cases (damien is a rare case of not being able to use FT)

I would say support classes are only those who can enter end game boss runs without meeting the DPS requirements and only bishop meets that requirement. Pallys and Sias still need to meet DPS reqs

[grim tapir]

I'd suggest DW since remaster is about here and you can ride the hype train. and if all else fails, just play paladin on the side without the gear first. if you like the skill sets and not DW then transfer the gear over and there's your main!

[haughty surge]

Pala nowadays not needed for their threaten imo. But it is still a class many ppl will want in the team due to sacro (can also bless the top dps) and their revive timing. And yes pala dps also stronger den a lot.

I agree with the pala is support, dps and tank. The 2 classes which easily make it into most teams easily are bishop and pala lol.

Not sure if main means all sf25-30/lvl40 gears, but I think if u have a grp of friends playing bossing tgt or bossing with guild mates, just play what keeps u interested. Cos end of day those type of gears still needs alittle bit of carrying from the more built up characters.

Of cos once it reached the higher content (for now I would say lotus and Damien) you would have to probably wait quite a while before u can attend/contribute.

Dw or pala, for me I would probably go for pala due to it being more useful as I’m more into the game cos of bossing instead of leveling or farming 😂. So see where ur interest level lies I guess! Cheers!

[knotty turret]

Do what I did, make both

Dawn Warrior is currently horrible without insane funding, remaster might change things

[fathom spade]

kakaka afser has spoken

more 200s !

[knotty turret]

Do you know if DW will need pets post remaster

[fathom spade]

im leveling evan on my main acct for cdd ced and legion

[fathom spade]

i think not as much as now

since we dont need to jump anymore

hahaha

[knotty turret]

I think only for Equinox cycle and Rift of damnation?

[fathom spade]

yes

[past fable]

Damn that’s crazy thought this was a bucc thread

[fathom spade]

[vernal gazelle]

Dead

[keen lagoon]

Yeh I think that was my fault

[sleek hinge]

Hello guys, what skill/s should I prioritize first for Lvl100 Buccaneer? TIA

[supple flint]

Hook bomber

Or if you have low damage Octo to use for mobbing

[primal light]

#buff Bucc 😭

[supple flint]

Not strong enough for DPS chasers to play

I like not eating buffs for bosses though, and the team still thinks I buffed for Ark and below 🤣

[silver cedar]

Hey buccs, do yall level common v3 skill? Seems pretty useless unless it’s maxed…

[supple flint]

Level it to max

Then you have a level 25 node to dismantle

[shut tusk]

i dont use overdrive

[rose bramble]

Level it up

Close your eyes and press

Don’t think just do

[haughty surge]

i used it but i duno if I felt any difference. lol.

[jovial glade]

Feels more like debuff than buff😂. Let's see if there's any V3 skill that can top that by uselessness

the devs were drunk when they made this skill, and they just like gave up on it and said, - it should do, It's buccaneer's, who cares😄😄

[supple flint]

You’re probably capping everything right.

[supple flint]

They couldnt do the PC style for the skill so just gave random FD

[haughty surge]

yeap. but i kinda have a feel it might help out with the additional lines which probably is unseen in the numbers.

usually i cast it at the point when ds4 activated for those bosses that rerquired ds4 (as the cap will be raised and i assume higher numbers for add lines too)

as for other bosses like CRA or so i think if the char is well geared / capping at their mdc, i think it doesnt makes much difference.

i may be wrong thou. but i lazy alr to even go find out LOL.

[jovial glade]

I checked it, it doesn't give fd, it gives pa% corresponding to your base weapon attack, then takes away the same amount, but for longer period of time, at least at the first level of the skill, I didn't checked further, because I always extract this node 😄

And I agree, maybe it worked for PC version, but here at MSM it is not

[supple flint]

Well that’s just worse 🤣

In PC they increased your att range. So it basically increases/decreases your PA directly

Probably how they got the idea of Pa% buff 🤣

[shut tusk]

PA% sucks in msm

we already cap anyways

overdrive only helps weaker buccs but it probably still bad consider you're making yourself weaker when it's on CD

[supple flint]

Doesn’t help if your weapon isn’t good though

Just a funny skill hahaha

[rose bramble]

What if they made it increase cap

And then decrease cap on CD

[shut tusk]

no thanks

[jovial glade]

I was thinking, it would be great, if the did it similar to the cannoneer's skill when your FD is decreased but triples your lines.
What you think about it?

[shut tusk]

nope, they should change it to FD or flat PA instead of PA%

[haughty surge]

there shouldnt even be a decrease in anything for a v3 skills. just by giving fd/pa is more than enough.

[rose bramble]

i think so too

should just be a straight buff

someone leave feedback FAST

[ionic dew]

just leveled my bucc to 200 can i please get a skills wheel for bossing and auto battle please

[jovial glade]

For AB you may use hook bomber combined with screw punch, or just hook bomber. Lord of the deep also great for mobbing.
For bossing -preset: lord of the deep, stimulated conversation, explorer buff and octopunch. Sea serpent and nautilus only right before boss appearance.

When bossing, obviously, skills that's on preset and all, do not use them on pets, and vice versa on ab

[ionic dew]

thanks

[hearty wave]

anyone else having v3 not charge?

My v3 says 70,000 minutes

[supple flint]

Fine for me

[hearty wave]

fml still bugged not sure how to fix...

[shut tusk]

looks like it's the same as WA bug

does taking it off skill wheel work?

then restarting app/ changing character

[hearty wave]

yeah i was able to fix it by taking it off vmatrix and then relogging

[rose bramble]

What do you use that skill wheel for?

[hearty wave]

its my second page for bossing but i use it for mulung attack speed

[rose bramble]

it's faster than octo punch/lotd?

[wispy wolf]

Hi guys. Is it necessary to have CD on weapon for bucc? I think I have been waiting 1 months+ finding CD Jaihin but none available. Today saw a BA jaihin.

Can I use BA on weapon but get CD on other body part?

[shut tusk]

ofc

i have 2 BA (weapon and shoe) and 6 CD but i think it's too much even at 30.8m cap. i hit my cap with fair trade only

[rose bramble]

its bc ur giga strong

[shut tusk]

ur giga strong too

[haughty surge]

at this stage of the game, assuming well built, I think even with 3-4 BA emblem or with BA weap should be still able fully cap with buffs. lol.

[obtuse hazel]

Hey everyone, trying to sell a mythic Jaihin claw thats 18 SF and exalted once , how much should i sell it for ?

[dense vale]

Anyone got advice on how to go about hyper stats?

Also could use advice on perfect trio for bossing

[rose bramble]

Trio is pinned

Hyper stats is same for all phy atk classes

[dense vale]

This will be my first time maxing hyper stats. So I’m unsure of what I should be doing. So far I’ve maxed fd and pd

[shut tusk]

should've been FD / ADI / MDC/ PD/BA

in that order

you dont do PD or BA until after 200 because you need the FD/ MDC/ ADI

[dense vale]

I’m 204

I’ll do adi next

[shut tusk]

do adi

[dense vale]

Thank you!

[shut tusk]

if you still dont have emblems, pd is fine but mdc would be better

[dense vale]

I just finally got bis cd weapon and I am got leg bis slot boots with ba

But I won’t put the boots on until they are mythic

[wispy wolf]

Hi guys. I saw some of you talking about hyperstats the other day. FD > ADI > depends. Is ADI refers to Deal Additional DMG = Additional Dmg Increase?

[rose bramble]

ya

[wispy wolf]

Thank you

[jovial glade]

I personally don't like the new ADI, back then it has a chance to deal DMG , now it's 100% to deal DMG, but with a cooldown. As I see it, it might be good for long boss runs, but for short runs it's not, imo.

[rose bramble]

Hmm generally what short boss run would it even matter that much in? The assumption is short = easy to kill and if easy to kill then is it really something to worry about?

Sure you can have that opinion but the prior version favored classes that dealt more lines quickly. Now it’s more fair for everyone

Either way it’s not something people really complain about now a days

[jovial glade]

I meant in terms of DMG comparing to some other hypers in this particular case, it's not worth it in my opinion, this cooldown matters. I agree that classes with more line would benefit more from that hyper in the past, but as for now, i don't think it's worth leveling up at least till you cap MD . And I don't say it out of nothing, I've tried some variations with hypers to maximize boss dmg

[haughty surge]

Generally for many classes should be able to cap their max damage if build correctly haha. But yea I personally I think no right or wrong to which to use. It all boils down to how much our chars are built. End of day we ourselves comfortable with our dmg is all it matters hahaha and happy playing the game 😄

I recall I used to max adi in the past / at the start when everyone only put 1 point to adi 😂😂😂.

[supple flint]

My ADI is still lvl 8

[dense vale]

Mine is 9. I’m only hitting 2 mil lines that’s why I haven’t put much thought into md. Working on building him from the ground up on not so much funding. So it’s a way helps now vs what helps later for me

[shut tusk]

i mean if you're only hitting 2m lines, the only hyper points i would put is FD. you would rather use the mesos to find emblem gear than spend mesos into hyper points for a class you may reroll from

[dense vale]

I’m committed to this character

There is no reroll

Fd is max and pd is maxed. Currently got bis weapon with cd and bis boots with ba. I have a cd bis helm but I’m waiting to get it up to mythic before I put in on

[rose bramble]

Keep at it!

Nodes help a lot too for damage if you are lvl 200+

[shut tusk]

yup if you dont plan to reroll, nodes are basically guaranteed gains

[dense vale]

I’m 204. I got 2 trios and they just helped me get my first level 40 skills so I got a little base I’m working with

[cerulean marsh]

do Buccs have any iframes?

[shut tusk]

only when we use the Lightning Form orbs for like 1 second

we'll get a second one with V4 with Howling Fist

[haughty surge]

lightning form each ball when u cast aound 1s iframe. so aound 3 sec iframe if u time it consecutively. 😂 but i dont really keep that iframe thou. alot of dps loss if you keep it for the iframe.

[jovial glade]

With Serpent vortex you can evade all normal attacks, do not works this lotus lasers though. Also it allows you can evade upward, it helpful to be closer to a boss or to evade some attack that have height limit. And of course lightning form, as it was written above, has pure iframe when cast a orb and teleport like movement

[haughty surge]

I’m pretty sure most bucc used serpent vortex just for dps for the number of lines it has instead of evading with it or get closer to boss haha. 😂

[jovial glade]

It's not ONLY good for dps, it also good for evading 😂😂

Since we've talked about evading and not something else, you know

[haughty surge]

why would you used that to evade? esp to evade normal attack? Advance dash would be a better option for evading. But of cos, i agree with you.. Serpent Vortex can be used to evade.... not denying that but it can be use for a better purpose.

but yeap. you are right in terms of using it as a purpose for evading. 👍 haha. but not as an iframe.

[jovial glade]

Do whatever man, I do as I will. You say it like I never used advanced dash.... , it's not as good. I don't wanna argue here what's better, someone asked a question, and I'm expressing my OPINION. It's not like I compel someone to do so

[haughty surge]

sorry for my opinion too i guess. . seems like u think im whacking you haha. all is good. i didnt say u are wrong thou. but prob i shouldnt ask why. no worries. dont see how this is arguing. yeap happy playing and enjoy ur day..

[silver cedar]

How are buccs feeling about the rebalance? Seems pretty good buff with strong burst every 2 mins. Biggest gripe is that we can’t TL ress anymore

[shut tusk]

HUGE burst back onto Lightning Form for 2 min CD

looks like we got back infinite LotD

Serpent Vortex got a decent buff

and Rage is not too bad now

overall good

[Additional Functionality] Attack Frequency changed to 2 seconds

while Infinite Sea Serpents is active (New)

this is the only thing im kinda concerned about incase it wasnt as fast as current LotD

and yes, very sad about not being able to TL res

cause that's literally what we're there for

[rose bramble]

Oh subtle change to vortex is 5 sec cd instead did 4

Should also highly why it’s bad to just use only vortex while training lol

Otherwise change is unnoticeable bc of vortex preset

[haughty surge]

Only disappointing part is the leap function. It makes leap even less usable. But in a way it boils down to learning the bossing mechanic.

Other than that I think quite a decent buffs to bucc overall esp to the v skills. The burst dmg quite op I feel.

1-2 part I don’t really understand thou but I hope overall still an improvement to it. 😄

I think the main biggest point of this patch and the most impt is the increase of mdc across everything. Quite a big jump when all parts add up.

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/623f72a34f2dbfd3d3ecedc5febe03e5.png

No additional functionality

https://i.gyazo.com/605770985985c6417f64d6a6b11be7ba.png

With

I dont think the new option is very good

unless im missing something

[hearty wave]

new option is for training so that you can cast other skills without auto killing

burst is great think we got a great buff

[haughty surge]

Think the new version more for ab

Any idea how this works or what the set up u guys be using? Thanks! 😊

[supple flint]

Just for AB

Don’t have to reset it if you put it in a different setting too

[shut tusk]

just use for AB

dont use it for bossing

[haughty surge]

Ok thanks!

[supple flint]

Look at our burst now

[knotty turret]

Crazy strong

V4 is some insane damage, too

[silver cedar]

With v4, what’s buccs skill wheel lookin like

[shut tusk]

i have everything the same, just v4 on second wheel

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/a3ebb6f44be2a2fa52fe3d5f38a84702.png

https://i.gyazo.com/8ab538f95360527831a334afe51bce42.png

this is what mine looks like currently

empty slot is blink

[knotty turret]

V4 does some insane damage

And looks badass

[haughty surge]

Here’s mine. Empty slot is for blink. But I think mainly find a set up that’s comfortable for yourself to press. Swap ard see which feels smoother for u 👍🏻

[silver cedar]

Thanks guys! This is helpful!

[harsh jacinth]

So I wonder how do I hit 25k lines in 3 mins with bucc 🤣🤣🤣

[primal light]

I also wondering if someone can do it 😂

Please let me know hahaha.

[harsh jacinth]

They must mistake it for mercedes class

Or TB

[primal light]

Somemore this chart do not hv pathfinder and Aran. So weird.

[harsh jacinth]

Maybe their job not popular so not enough info yet

[supple flint]

I did this with v1 at 28 and lotd at lvl 20

Maybe you can hit 25k with the max lvl skills since you get more hits at max lvl now

[harsh jacinth]

And they nerf our only iframe, each 120 secs can only get. 3 secs iframe now

[harsh jacinth]

That s total of 21474 hitcount

Don t think u will get another 3k count by max another few level of v skill 😫

[supple flint]

Lvl 20 is only 68 activations, while lvl 30 has 80 activations for LoTD, so it’s quite significant. Not sure how many activation counts are missing from a max lightning form though

Also my ADI hyper is lvl 14 🤣

[harsh jacinth]

18 lines count u x80 then

Nearly 300 lines difference only

[harsh jacinth]

Few hundred, if u max everything at most ll get to 22k5 something

[silver cedar]

V4 is an iframe too so we have 4 secs, not a lot but better than nothing 😅

[shut tusk]

the iframe is only when Howling chomps down, not when it's initially activated so do be careful

[shut tusk]

you're not gonna see those lines when your skills arent maxed

[knotty turret]

That’s super counterintuitive

[shut tusk]

how

it literally says it in the description

lol

[supple flint]

You can time the I-frame with enough practice

Or just tap once

But you lose the initial damage

[knotty turret]

The skill is really really cool

The V3 change is also very welcome, I’m 1 hitting everything with it now

Mobbing went from amazing to god tier

[ancient scarab]

idk about this

in 3 minutes i know for sure bucc is above 15k

but I dont see how to get 25k

[harsh jacinth]

Tap one and will lose like 900 lines

[harsh jacinth]

Yeah, if maxed everything in 3 mins I think s like 22k something, wonder if some ppl with maxed v skill can test it

[dense vale]

Can anyone show me their vmatrix for bossing since update

[haughty surge]

^ nothing much changes from before patch. except to use v4 . lol.

[dense vale]

I just need to see what nodes I need for bossing

I tried to look at pinned messages and all I seen was trios which I already got

[supple flint]

Yea, but you don’t die

[knotty turret]

Good point

[rose bramble]

that's it then

[supple flint]

Only skill you don’t need is overdrive (which they still haven’t attempted to fix ???). Flag is skippable if you have no slots. Otherwise yea, everything else

[harsh jacinth]

I think we should send multiples ticket to them complain how bad it is like sia player did when they got nerfed 🐧

[shut tusk]

it's non issue for us. Just a few skills less to max. overdrive, flag, loaded dice not necessary to max just slightly beneficial. better to max bucc v skills over general pirate v skill

overdrive is better maxed than it is as other levels

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/db817e5aaab01034eb5f12e57cfefa55.jpg

took me like 15 tries to actually get the v4 to not cancel from the boss

40m cap but im also on the lower level end

[haughty surge]

Congrats. Nice score. Max lvl v4 already?

[shut tusk]

yea max v4s and no overdrive.

[bold solstice]

Hey guys,

i need some tips how to play better on bossing. I‘ve saw some battle results with V1 on top place. Atm i‘m maxing my trinodes. Seems more worth for me because there r huge cooldowns on V1, V4 and now V2 too. So in example fighting of 2-3min octopunch + the two passive attack skills does way more dmg than a higher lvled V-Skill which can only be used once during that time. Maybe there r some tips about bossing skill wheel? Using octopunch+v3 in preset the whole time, V2 automatic and V1 almost never because its my defense skill (avoid attack, use while dmg reflect). V4 is pretty new to me so not really practiced on bosses. But maybe there r better ways to handle? Since V2 always disappear when enter boss with more ppl it seems impractical on pet now with 2min cooldown. Keep focusing on trinode or try to max V4 now? And im wondering how a guy here did 2400 hit counts with V2 on lv 20 while I only do 1100 with V2 lv 17 in boss mode (around 500 hits on autobattle mode)

[shut tusk]

Lightning Form and Lord of the Deep hit counts increase with levels. LF increases duration and LotD increases max attack count. Fix your trios to have Octo, Sea Serpent Rage and Nautilus.

Make sure to stay on your mount before you enter a boss, so your skills align somewhat properly. That's why your V2 disappears

Always prioritize trio nodes and level up the V skills as you level your trio nodes with whatever nodestones you have.

Don't have the additional functionality on for Lord of the Deep for bossing, it's only meant for training because before this patch, we would be set to resting if we didn't attack since LotD killed everything in our path.

[haughty surge]

for a start you are right, focus on your tricore first. for any characters, Tricores are always the most prioritised and easier to max. Bucc are now considered as a burst class character. It takes abit of time to up your V1 V2 and V4 nodes which provides the burst dmg. Do remember that each level up for your V skills increase the duration you can use them, hence more lines.

For your V2. I would say if you want to maximise it at the start of the boss, log in earlier, change to a map where your v2 is not hitting any mobs, and wait for it to cd till it reset.

[mental shale]

Bucc is really fun to play. A very underrated bossing class

[bold solstice]

Ok ty, didnt know the trick with the mount. Ill try today.

But why prefer Nautilus in Trinode? That skill is so weak and never using during bosses. I know it has extra attack if using octopunch or other skills right after… but is it worth to put in trinode? Never using during boss… and at farming I only use v2 and v3 which kill all mobs and let me move arround the whole time without losing collecting-time by stop moving and use octopunch or nautilus in example

[shut tusk]

you dont use nautilus. it's because nautilus provides additional damage if you read the description

you can use for training but never for bossing

nautilus will still show up in your Battle Analysis because of the additional damage proc

[bold solstice]

Yea but not for v skills. And i only use v skills on training. You lose so much time using „active“ skills where you not walk around and farm. Lord of the deep kills all, serpent vortex is like rush… so usually character never stands on one place

[shut tusk]

in this damien BA, i didnt use nautilus once and it still shows up. still provides a decent amount of damage

https://i.gyazo.com/a142f1e78c0b619ebc6426f6f472c060.png

[shut tusk]

if that's one way to look at it sure, but sea serpent burst isnt going to provide much in a bossing scenario

you dont really need mobbing trios if your v skills kill everything

i still have my mobbing trios whenever i reach a higher level, but it's not necessary since like you said our v skill basically kill everything

[bold solstice]

Thats how farming looks like

Only walk around, nothing else

Nautilus is like chill on a place for 3sec and do nothing.

[shut tusk]

yea so having octo, rage and nautilus as a trio is much better than octo, rage and burst because in a bossing scenario all three is still viable

[bold solstice]

Kk

[shut tusk]

burst isnt usable at all in bossing scenario

also you dont even need have corkscrew

if you use the additional function of LotD and just vortex, you'll see "better" kill rates from yourself instead of just walking around

if you have additional function off for LotD on your bossing wheel, it'll be off, but if it's on for training, it'll stay on.

just remember when you're bossing switch to your bossing wheel, then get on a mount so the additional function is off

[bold solstice]

Corkscrew is for moving forward + passive attack after which kills half map

[shut tusk]

you dont have to keep turning it on and off between wheels

[shut tusk]

might as well use hook bomber, you dont need to move that much forward if you have m pets but i guess it's fine to have corkscrew if don't have m pets

[rose bramble]

Or get infinite move speed and zoom across the map

[supple flint]

I have a speed % shoe

From when we need to move fast for fort

[haughty surge]

this is also ok.. not really a problem... i didnt use corkscrew thou cos i dont really like the transition lag time for the corkscrew after its used. haha. for me i prefer hook bomber cos the vertical range of it very wide. up and down also ccan kill.

no right or wrong way of farming. as long the v skills are equip in all are still viable! 😄

i would assume the tricore the naut helps with the additional dmg that comes with it. but anyway 1 thing good about bucc is that it doesnt required many skills to be up for the tricore. so there will always be available slots for other decent skills required.

for me instead of using 2 slots to max lvl 60, i used 3 slots. i used the 10 points enhancement for other stuffs 😂

[haughty surge]

for legion graph i max the speed part LOL. zooom~

[primal light]

Same hahaha. 10 points enhancement use on v skill.

Isit more mob killing if we put LOTD in skill wheel ? I remove it, put v3 , nautilus and hook bomber. Not sure it is more efficient in mobbing or not.

[shut tusk]

doesn't matter. that's what i have too

[split burrow]

Hi all anyone can share how the v matrix look like thanks!

[rose bramble]

Check pins

Also if you like just scroll up people talked about it

[supple flint]

Just when I thought I got first. She gets first ML45 for A2Z Bucc

[rose bramble]

NICE!

Although floor 45 is the minimum now for mu lung in Scania 😭

[haughty surge]

after 1130pm got a 2nd one ML45 :x

[supple flint]

I saw

Gratz

[haughty surge]

🤭

[supple flint]

I saw you trying a few times

Stuck at 44 for 30minutes

Did you all use stun

[haughty surge]

i tried twice cos got existing buffs. haha. cos she told me she 45 alr

i used but i failed the stun lol.

[supple flint]

She was 1:20 and you were 1:18 so I thought I got first when I hit 1:17

Then I checked gg

[haughty surge]

haha cos usually i jus do once a week den nv see le. before v4 quite guarantee to get top.

[supple flint]

Have to resequence the skill cd timing again

[shut tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDRd-BZojjk

[rose bramble]

okay but can u move even faster

[shut tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-falcon-show-me-your-moves-smash-super-smash-bros-captain-gif-21684256

[shut tusk]

yea you can vortex and advance dash

there's a slight cooldown for the skills, but if you use one after the other, it's like there's no cd

vortex > ad > vortex > ad

both have a .5s cd

[rose bramble]

Ok but is that faster than just lightning form dashing

[shut tusk]

no but i always forget about that

[oak plume]

Anyone know what the trio nodes you're supposed get for buccs?

[haughty surge]

I think if we are just talking about movement speed I think lightning form double jump will be the fastest in terms of movement. I’m assuming what u meant is by manually moving.

[haughty surge]

Check out the pinned comments. Cheers!

I do use quite a bit of advance dashing during bossing cos it’s is quite versatile and easy to use to avoid falling items or to run move away from dmg.

[knotty turret]

Bucc has a bunch of movement

Dash, vortex, corkscrew, lightning form

[oak plume]

How do I see pinned comments?

[oak plume]

Nvm! Found it! ◡̈

[shut tusk]

wdym, it's just vortex and advanced dash right after

[teal lintel]

I am a lvl 209 buc returning player. Can I ask which order should I prioritise my nodes for max damage?

[supple flint]

V1/V2 first

Because they only max duration/activation count at max level

Assuming you maxed your boost nodes already

[teal lintel]

Thank you! After that do I go to v3? Or straight to v4? Actually do people even use v3?

For bossing

[haughty surge]

v3 best for bossing imo. hahaha but theres slight downtime hence usually we use octopunch too

but i think sufficient for it to be lvl1 first and u can build on v1/v2 first.

[supple flint]

Yea, V3 is used. It’s just that skill dmg % being lower is fine if you have good gear. Duration and hit count is independent of gear, so you probably should max those kind of skills first

We basically use all

[teal lintel]

Oh no wonder im not doing enough damage. No problem to burst normal magnus, but basically lacking damage for anything after

Btw is flag btr or decent node?

[supple flint]

You probably don’t have the slots yet at 209 unless you’re missing v skills ?

But really depends what you’re missing

From your usual bossing team

If you’re joining pub flag because flag gives everyone buff😂

[tribal pine]

Is buccaneer have iframe ?

[supple flint]

Yea v1 3x and v4 but they are all short

[wispy wolf]

Morning guys.. I just fixed my trinode base on the pin. Tested out for the mobbing. Im still low level so I couldnt see much different.

Just want to ask, why is it better to have hook bombers over serpant burst? Isnt serpant burst deal more dmg and bigger aoe? Therefore quicker to clear mob? Currently i cant 1 hit mob.

[haughty surge]

not really better. can try it tgt with serpent vortex. mainly now serpent vortex used to clear the mobs. hook bomber is included in case like some cases where gears are not fully optimised so that after serpent vortex the hook bomber can clear those mob around you. tweek around with the attacks depending on whether u able to clear the mob.

any skills can be used as long it helps with survival lol. and of cos while bbuilding up gears to deal more dmg.

[wispy wolf]

Alright. Great! Thanks for the explaination

So... what you think? Serpant burst or Hook bomber?

[shut tusk]

serpent burst and serpent vortex are two different skills

serpent burst is your passive effects from using hook bomber whether it's the big AoE move or the long serpent attack.

serpent vortex is the v3 skill

i prefer to use both especially in EoS when there's no more vortex charges. but training in AF, you dont need hook bomber. you'll get back the charges quick enough depending on which AF you're in

[wispy wolf]

Omg..

Really?

I wasted 1b to rebuild my trinode and now you guys think burst is better than hook bomber?

I read this which i think it make more sense. So.... ya..

So should I rebuild again and get burst to lvl60 instead of hook bomber lvl60?

[shut tusk]

what im confused

you trio nodes should be
Bossing
Octopunch/ Nautilus/ Serpent Rage

Training
Hook Bomber/ Serpent Burst/ Corkscrew

training trio is optional but not necessary

[wispy wolf]

@shut tusk i follow this. Was pinned

[haughty surge]

sea serpent burst is a passive skill activated that can be activated when u cast hook bomber. it is not an active skill where u can press. if you are building just for training purposes can follow as what Phalowyn mentioned. either way, hookbomber and serpent burst is a combo together for training. but mainly if u are using it for training, your v3 skills (serpent vortex) should be good enough.

[wispy wolf]

Yes i am totally awared serpent burst is an passive skill like serpent rage. Thats why I am asking, in the pinned message, @hearty wave suggested to build on serpant burst lvl60 max and let hook bomber with lvl30 peak.

Which then come this question where later you suggested its better to have hook bomber over serpant burst.

So my question still unanswered, should I max hook bomber at lvl60 and keep serpant burst lvl30 or the way around? This is about 3 slots bossing + farming trio. For sure, octo+rage+nautilus is a must have lvl60 max.

[wispy wolf]

Thanks for answering. If this is the perfect trio. I suggest remove the current pinned message. Because that 3 slot perfect trio are different from your 4 slot perfect trio.

3 node slots perfect trio pinned. Please advice or amend. New bucc will follow this guide like i do if this isnt as recommended.

[haughty surge]

either way both are fine. even with both hook bomber or serpent burst at lvl 30 is more den enough. ideally if both at lvl 30 also more den enough for end game. just that with that setup u can choose either 1 to hit 60. if your question is which one. I think any 1 also fine. That way of tricore minimise the need to build a seperate set and still usable.

or if you find it complicated... do 2 sets (as shown above. 1 for training, 1 for bossing). less complicated.

[shut tusk]

either is fine, two sets is easier to understand for me because I also play pc too. 4 trio is better so I can max both

[shut tusk]

probably easier to do hook bomber, vortex ends up killing most mobs around you anyways. I believe most of us agreed that it's not really necessary to have hook bomber or burst unless you have space for it since we one shot the mobs regardless

[wispy wolf]

Thank you so much for replying and your patience @shut tusk @haughty surge Appreciated it truely .

[shut tusk]

it's all personal preference at the end of the day, you can do the three trio combo or 4 trio combo. either is acceptable as long as you have three important trios

[bold solstice]

Hey guys. I‘ve recently started with ark runs. Litte question about the v-skills. Which ones affects the orbs? I‘ve did some test runs:
V1: no
V2: no
V3: sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes only my colour but not the other
V4: sometimes yes, sometimes no

More confusing than helpful. How you guys handle the v-skills on ark?

[shut tusk]

stand in the middle

and nothing is affected

[dense vale]

Anyone able to show me there skill wheel. Feel like mine can be adjusted now that I’ve opened up more node slots

[tribal pine]

[balmy forge]

is this class OP?

[rose bramble]

no. needs buff

[shut tusk]

yup just like every other class

[knotty turret]

Wouldn’t say OP but it’s quite awesome for mobbing and it has a bunch of really really cool skills

[supple flint]

4th job skill too weak

[knotty turret]

Agree on this

I miss double blast. Mobbing felt so much better with it

[silent kite]

Does anyone have V matrix guide?

[shut tusk]

max Lightning Form, Howling Fist, Lord of the Deep then Serpent Vortex

Goddess, Flag, Overdrive then Dice for others but these are kinda whatever

Bossing trio is Octo, Serpent Rage and Nautilus

[candid lantern]

Anyone know How much time exactly we get iframe after using howling fist? And if i dash right after it will cancel final blow?

[harsh jacinth]

3 secs, lol 🧐

[shut tusk]

it's not after, the howling fist iframe happens when the chomp bites down. i believe it's 3 second i frame

once the chomp happens is when the final blow happens

[candid lantern]

Thanks

[civic spire]

what is the uptime of lord of the deep at maxed nodes?

[silver cedar]

Here ya go

[civic vault]

Buccaneers or thunder breaker in terms of skills

[exotic iris]

Go thunder

[rose bramble]

go thunder and leave a feedback to buff buccs

[civic vault]

lol gotcha

[tame idol]

cadena wheel

[fallow yew]

Is this still up to date? For perfect node trios? Any thoughts? Just got my buccaneer alt 200. I'm confused in what to do

[shut tusk]

yea it works if you just wanna use 3 trios

if you're doing 4 trios,
trio 1 - octo/ naut/ serpents rage
trio 2 - hook bomber/ serpent assault/ last one can be whatever

second trio is not needed

but nice to have if you're struggling for mobbing

[rose bramble]

What if I want to do 5 trios though

[shut tusk]

that's bucctough

[fallow yew]

Yea my main is FPM where i use 6 trios in my setup but bucc sure uses alot of space. Lots of skills. Atleast i wear all v skills now and buff skills to farm AF90 decently on CT.

Thanks for the answers to. Will keep it in mind.

[shut tusk]

farming all you need is vortex and lord of the deep on pets

if you're using all your vortex charges, add hook bomber in your skill wheel

[fallow yew]

Yeah for now i maxed hook bomber in my hypers, because it will be an farming alt for now. And the farming with the 6 charges is quite fun to watch.

[shut tusk]

ya just deletes the area around you

if you have howling, it deletes most of the map

[fallow yew]

Howling?

[shut tusk]

howling fist, bucc's v4

[fallow yew]

Ohh howling fist

I opened 60 nodes that i farmed on my main

Got these sofar

[distant trench]

Hello, can someone suggest AB wheel for farming before lvl 200 please?

[shut tusk]

hook bomber and nautilus

[distant trench]

Thanks!

[rose bramble]

wtf kevi u didnt give him the nautilis only skill wheel

[shut tusk]

[rose bramble]

gate keeping secret tech smh

[distant trench]

I dont think I can survive with only Nautilus skill on wheel 😅

[lime mantle]

octo punch best for pre 200, so you dont group too many mobs, it all depends on your gear and what sf youre at. but octo punch kills quicker and safer than hook bomber

[civic vault]

Bucc have any iframe skills pre 200

[rose bramble]

iframe pre 200 bucc skill no have

[knotty turret]

Feel like bucc was more fun pre remaster although it did have it’s issues

[visual gorge]

How many trinodes does bucc have

[supple flint]

Depends

Bossing only

Or you want the full set with mobbing skills lol

[visual gorge]

Both though

I have a level 48 octo+hook+serpent assault/rage, I'm thinking that's about it

[shut tusk]

1 trio, octo, nautilus, rage

if you want mobbing trio, hook, burst, and last one can be random

[supple flint]

Hook, burst and corkscrew for mobbing

Naut octo rage for bossing

But generally you can just skip the mobbing one because the V skills do a good job on their own

[teal lintel]

Hi! How do buccs clear solo ark? Cant dodge the screencracks

[supple flint]

Lightning form and howling fist have I frames to dodge

[visual gorge]

Lightning form has I frame? I thought only howling fist has

[shut tusk]

lightning form when you summon the orbs, and howling when the serpent chomps down

[teal lintel]

Sounds painfully difficult to execute lol

[shut tusk]

it's really not

[rose bramble]

u heard him kevi, bucc succs

[shut tusk]

it's tru

buccsucc

[teal lintel]

Pray for remake soon

[visual gorge]

Need to remake like desktop maple

The skills is cool

[rose bramble]

or....you leave specific, good quality feedback on how to buff and improve the class in #msm-feedback-qol instead of afser-level takes and opinions

😂 🤣 🤡

[shut tusk]

very good bucc needs remake

[supple flint]

Remake Bucc to full support role

[tribal pine]

nooo !!!!

Dragon cant be support 💪🏻

[kind hemlock]

Does bucc really suck?👀

[supple flint]

No it blows

[kind hemlock]

Lol dang

[modest wedge]

My first burning class was a bucc. Got him to 183… played TB and it ruined bucc for me. Can’t play bucc no more.

I don’t like buccs.

[supple flint]

Yea Buccsucc

[shut tusk]

yup buccsucc

[civic spire]

Well buccs don’t turn on until 200

[teal lintel]

Buccs burst is alright after 200, just the survivability not too good. And knockback cancels howling fist….

[supple flint]

Tb skills cooler after 200 too

Buffbucc

[civic spire]

ok so the charge part of howling fist should not be interruptable. that should be where the i frame is

[supple flint]

The I frame is after the final blow

Time it wrong and you lose half the damage lol

[modest wedge]

Valid, but TB skills flow is so fluid and its range has a high vertical reach— Playability

[civic vault]

TB

[visual gorge]

How do we make bucc stronger for a semi f2p?

[shut tusk]

tell them to give back our unlimited LotD

[supple flint]

Just Necro weapon and inherit armors

[visual gorge]

Buccaneers or shade?

[civic vault]

Shade

[visual gorge]

Why

[civic vault]

You f2p?

[visual gorge]

Semi f2p, don't spend a lot a month

I have a bucc at 215 but kinda getting bored of it and wanna try shade but not sure if the mobbing and bossing is gonna be as good as bucc or better/worse

[haughty surge]

play both lol.

[visual gorge]

Hi fellow buccs, I maxed out my trio of octo + hook bomber + serpent burst/assault (level 60). Should I focus on maxing v skills or get another trinodes with battleship in it?

[shut tusk]

why didnt you just find a trio with octo, assault and nautilus

[visual gorge]

I thought the perfect trio was with hook bomber and I all in with that trio

Should I just tear my trio apart and find another one with octo, assault and nautilus? :/

[shut tusk]

ideally ya

[visual gorge]

Man :/

[supple flint]

If it’s not hook bomber base you just have to open the correct trio and level that instantly

Not really an issue

[dense vale]

#makebucsgreatagain

[distant trench]

Fresh lvl 200 need help with V matrix

What am I looking for as far as nodes go for new account

[visual gorge]

I went to max my trinodes first

[distant trench]

Is this good boost node

[civic spire]

Imo no since the middle one is for farming with hook bomber, but this might be subjective

[visual gorge]

Is bucc by nature weaker than other classes?

[haughty surge]

must say yes. so nexon can buff bucc more 😄

[visual gorge]

The CD needs to be lowered man, we're losing out on so much damage because of the crazy cooldown

[civic vault]

Crazy how bucc used to be better than TB but after the remake TB left buccaneer in the dust lol

[visual gorge]

Why is TB better than bucc

[tribal pine]

Viper is the pirate class with the lowest hit line.

😭

[rose bramble]

Yeah it’s no surprise

You can just look at how classes compare when PCMs released 6th job to get a sense of who has the strongest origin

But in the end it doesn’t really matter

Cuz it gets buffed and nerfed and new changes in mastery cores shift meta

[shut tusk]

how could you

buccsucc #buffbucc

[rose bramble]

buccsucc #buffbucc

[civic spire]

The hell is cashew

Can someone translate the list lol

I know Eun is shade

[civic spire]

Cashew Cannonneer
Enver Angelic Buster
Eun Shade
Scur ThunderBreaker?
Arc Ark
Captain Corsair

[rose bramble]

a cashew is a seed/nut often eaten as a snack

[visual gorge]

Do y'all turn the toggle on or off for LOTD?

[supple flint]

Off for bossing on for mobbing

[civic spire]

Off always

[visual gorge]

Why on for mobbing

[supple flint]

Extra damage ? They nerfed the damage of the toggle on mode so it doesn’t immediately kill the mobs like it did last time.

[cerulean marsh]

Can someone lmk the cool downs for the 5th job skills?

[civic spire]

LOTD = 120s
Light Form = 120s
Howling Fist = ~160s (decreases with levels)

[cerulean marsh]

V1 and v2 is 120s at max level?

[civic spire]

yeah cooldown is the same but things like uptime increases

[cerulean marsh]

Gotcha ty ty

[civic spire]

What’s everyones emblem ratio? Bucc has naturally high CD so we can do more BA pieces instead right?

[shut tusk]

6 CD 2 BA

[rose bramble]

6 BA 2 CD

[molten hinge]

Hi new bucc wanted to ask what’s to add for hyper skill stats, 3 octo 2 crossbones?

[silver cedar]

Yup that’s what I have

[candid bolt]

hi all just joined the buccsuccs cult

how does farming work for him pre-200

hook bomber?

then octopunch for bossing?

hard to navigate messages in channel and i tried to scroll to no avail 😦

[civic spire]

that's basically it but if you're weak then you can just use octopunch for mobbing as well

[candid bolt]

does anyone have pics of bucc’s v skills? would be much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏

[sour hemlock]

Hey guys I haven't played in 4 years. I have a lvl 200 bucc I want to get back into sf fields. I need some help getting my attack wheel set up. Looks like everything has changed from back then

Can anyone point me in the direction of a guide?

All my skills are level one again and I just don't want to mess anything up

[supple flint]

You mean the description for the v skills ? Or just the nodes

[supple flint]

1-100 skills just add all. You won’t miss any of them since it maxes all

If you’re 200 you probably want to join AF fields instead of SF ones unless you want the exp of sf 194

[sour hemlock]

I just realized how different everything is. Lol this was my old sf field skill wheel. We don't even have bucc blast anymore?

I'm overwhelmed lol

[supple flint]

Yea they changed everything a few years ago but it’s basically the same

Hook bomber is bucc blast replacement

But after 200 you probably want to use serpent vortex

[sour hemlock]

Okay let me look for that

Oh I have to craft that?

I see now

[sour hemlock]

How exactly do I unlock serpent vortex? I need to autubattle in the AF fields?

[candid bolt]

ya the description + stats would be great

[visual gorge]

Are buccs or tb stronger?

[shut tusk]

whatever you want them to be

[rose bramble]

I hear angelic busters are very strong

[distant trench]

Hey guys I need your help

I think I’m doing something wrong cause I don’t hit max dmg so often (22,4m) and my gear,accessories, vskill and hyper are max

The dps test is lv.180 on 15% ied and no potion buffs at all

[civic spire]

I heard you need to full buff to hit cap. But i’m not that far along yet

[shut tusk]

so your damage to the test dummy is a reduced version of your cap as long as the boss you're fighting has a form of ied

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mBX7rgLRKGEYM256LDPtdg7HGWzQcjh_QLkT0RMk55Y/edit?gid=676345993#gid=676345993

[visual gorge]

What does the infinite serpent burst mean when you toggle on for LOTD? I did a test and the difference is minimal

[shut tusk]

toggle is just for when you AB so it doesnt put you into resting

it's just a slower version of LotD

[visual gorge]

Ahhh I see thanks! So the infinite sea serpent doeant really apply neither is it useful

[shut tusk]

nope

i thought it was infinite as it was specified in the name, but it actually isnt

it used to be tho

[sour hemlock]

What order should I unlock these? I have the first 3 as well as rope lift

[civic spire]

Definitely Howling Fist the 4th one

[sour hemlock]

Damn howling fist goes crazyyyy. What next tho??

[shut tusk]

get flag/ loaded dice/ goddess and sharp eyes if you dont have a necro yet

[distant trench]

And if I have necro, what buffs should I work on?
I got goddess blessing and hyper body but have extra slot atm