Bishop

[idle solstice]

longer duration

[next stratus]

Ooooh, good to know! Thank you!

I wish it said that in the skill description...it doesn't mention anything about a change in the skill every 5 levels or so (at least, not as far as I remember?)

[next stratus]

Are we supposed to do all CD emblems?

[compact tangle]

Not necessary

CD is abundant late game from a lot of sources

[next stratus]

Okay. I have a CD weapon and cape, and a magic damage secondary weapon.

Does it matter which gears we have BA on? How many should we have?

[compact tangle]

How far do you intend to go in this game in terms of your char progression?

I generally would go with a ratio of 6 CD emblems and 2 BA emblems

secondary weapon being MAG DMG is a good emblem

[next stratus]

I'd like to go end game...eventually. I'm just going super slowly.

[compact tangle]

then no harm to reach 5 or 6 CD emblems first

more importantly is your V-Matrix boost nodes and skill nodes (i assume you are already past lv200)

[next stratus]

Yeah, I am.

So I recently bought CD shoes...should I go for BA shoes instead?

[compact tangle]

For V-Matrix Skill Nodes, max out these skill nodes first

1. Angel of Balance
2. Mana Overload
3. Peacemaker
4. Divine Punishment

Benediction and Unreliable Memory can slowly level, especially unreliable memory, it is insanely unreliable

[compact tangle]

nah it's fine

keep the CD

you can always get BA emblems for other eqs next time

[next stratus]

I can't end game anything for now...so I thought maybe the cd might help me in AB?

[compact tangle]

yeap thus this

[next stratus]

Okay....but if I can get ba emblem for half the price of cd....seems like a good deal?

[next stratus]

What about boost nodes?

[compact tangle]

do you have necro weapon?

[next stratus]

No. I am baby bishop. XD

[compact tangle]

okay but for your main bossing + farming

2 slots with slot enhancements, get these combos

1. Angel Ray + Big Bang + Bahamut
2. Big Bang + Angel Ray + Bahamut

Or basically from 2 V-Matrix slots, you can max out at the end of the day:
Lv50 Angel Ray
Lv50 Big Bang
Lv50 Bahamut

Followed by slot enhancements of total 10 levels, and you would have maxed lv60 for the above 3 boost nodes

another 2 V-matrix slots can be any combo, just ensure both can give you
Lv50 Heaven's Door (This is paired with Fountain of Vengeance)
Lv50 Genesis (This is paired with Triumph Feather, not the lingerie brand)

followed by subsequent slot enhancements of total 10 levels, you would have maxed lv60 for the above 2 boost nodes

so for boost nodes, ideally maximum you should only occupy 4 V-matrix slots

expanding V-Matrix slots with mesos can be expensive at lower levels, so focus on boost nodes first to build your main attacking skills first and to level up

it is also cheaper to level up boost nodes as compared to skill nodes at this juncture

[next stratus]

Okay.

Thank you.

So basically....step 1: get angel ray, big bang, and bahamat to level 60.
Step 2: Get 6 cd emblems.
Step 3: Get 2 BA emblems?

[compact tangle]

on the emblem part, whichever comes first doesn't matter, but you shouldn't need too much BA emblems as BA is relatively abundant from future boss set effects etc.

and also emblems cannot be scaled for Rebirth Flames

Also, for emblems, CD yields the highest values at lv.5 (20% CD vs 10% BA)

thus more CD emblems wouldn't hurt

Personally my armours + weapon is total of 7 CD 1 BA right now, my secondary weapon landed a BA emblem so i'm lazy to re-roll it to a MDMG emblem

[next stratus]

Oh, what about flames?

If i scale to something, should it be to exp, hp, or even mp?

[compact tangle]

Have you exalted any of your armours yet? Such as lv40 mythic outfit, hat etc?

[finite crag]

What’s the range for multi Rez?

Do we have to be on the same platform like single Rez in gloom? Do we have to stand in the middle so everyone can get it?

Any general tips for gloom / Will?

[next stratus]

Nope.

[compact tangle]

then nvm, focus on flames after you collect a lot of the unique ones from Chaos Expedition

Ideally you can scale to CD/EXP % for early game

Late game HP/Boss ATK%

[compact tangle]

best is to be on the same level or below everyone else for rez, specific range i'm not sure, didn't really dive into this before, perhaps other players can advise

but i would personally go to the dead middle of the map to rez

so far for any run, everyone gets the rez

[next stratus]

I already rolled this. I was wondering if maybe this would make getting ba emblems better. @compact tangle

[compact tangle]

insane luck for event flames hahaha

Keep it!

The MAG ATK scales with Boss ATK is prime for legendary rank flame, meaning the highest amount you can get out of that rank

[next stratus]

Oh wow, okay - thanks! I wasn't sure how to feel about it... lol.

But the question remains - if this is my weapon's flames, wouldn't more ba emblems be good?

[dense cobalt]

No, you’ll still want a mix of 6 CD, 2 BA emblems. You’ll get your BA from boss sets, links, legion - and not getting CD emblems means you will be missing out on a lot of CD

The amount to aim for mid-game is 400% CD, 100% BA

End game players can currently hit 500% CD, 200% BA

Exp flames are still going to be your best bet at this stage of the game because they will get you 700+ attack per roll, or 6%+ crit dmg per roll once you have all your exp accessories

You won’t have enough BA (or HP) to get meaningful stats out of your flames this early

[next stratus]

True, but if that's where it's going to go (eventually) then I'd rather just wait for me to catch up to the stats than reroll, lol.

[dense cobalt]

Oh definitely keep those stats. Especially because final dmg

[next stratus]

Thanks guys!

[compact tangle]

Emblems do not affect Rebirth Flames

What is your current emblem anyways for your wand

[next stratus]

CD.

[compact tangle]

This is good! Just get it to level 5 along the way. If not getting to level 4 still decent, that’s 15% CD for the emblem (just to highlight again that emblem does not affect rebirth flames), but more of the value yield

[next stratus]

The emblem is currently level 2....lol 😅 ?

Which is more of a priority: increaing the emblem level, or exalting?

[next stratus]

Hi all, another Bishop question: how do you guys find node farming goes with your Bishops? I don't know if it's just RNG lately but I've been finding the past few times I've stuck my Bishop in an AF field that I've been getting no nodes at all....and I'm wondering if maybe it's because my skill wheel's no good or something...?

[dense cobalt]

Bishop doesn’t really have any movement skills and is a pretty slow farmer. Eventually you’ll want to stack SPD% just so it can walk around and collect things faster. But as for nodes, it’s not uncommon to get 0 for days in the lower af fields. You won’t start seeing a bunch until you get to higher fields, and that will also depend on if you have petite Luna pets for their vacuum looting

Also just a sidenote about nodes: you only get node drops from mobs that you kill. Not from mobs that your party members kill. So if you kill slow, or walk too slow to get to other mobs before your party members, you will get less nodes in general.

That said, once you are strong enough Bishop has a bunch of huge AoE attacks that cover several platforms. Once those are one-hitting mobs you’ll get more nodes… as long as your character walks over them to loot them lol

[next stratus]

The last couple of times I've stuck her in an AF field it was in Hidden M Tower and Colossal Tail.

[finite crag]

How hard is it to cap triumph feather?

[idle solstice]

depends on cap, higher cap needs higher stats to cap

[compact tangle]

Exalting, emblem level you can slowly increase via events nowadays, with event shop giving emblem trace

[compact tangle]

Craft rope lift skill node and equip it, it can help you move to different platforms quicker especially the higher ones, where you have a chance to loot dropped Arcane Symbol or Nodestones

Of course the best would be to shell out $ to get a set of Petite Luna Pets, where the magnet feature would greatly increase your loot rate for mesos and symbols/nodes

[compact tangle]

You can get both Arcane Symbol / Nodestones from party members kills, it's more of a question of being able to loot it if it's too far from you

[compact tangle]

+1 to Evgeneia's comment.

Depends on your current Max DMG, along with your boost node levels and of course your total character damage output stats. Not to mention all the additional passive ATK Increase % from skill nodes, or FD from Mana Overload and Passive MD from Ethereal Form.

But specifically to your question, if your final damage output from all of your EQ + V-Matrix + Legion and whatever not is not high enough, you definitely will not be able to cap your feathers.

If you can cap your angel ray easily, you should be able to cap your feathers with a little bit of food buffs

[finite crag]

I’m almost capping on average dmg with all my other skill

But triumphant feather is significantly lower. Probably coz of the low skill %?

[compact tangle]

yeah, but possible on boost nodes too

Triumph Feather is paired with Genesis

so just check your boost node to see if the boost node level for "Genesis/Triumph Feather" is as high as your angel ray boost nodes etc

[finite crag]

Everything max out

Looks like @formal spoke struggle to cap feather consistently too. And she’s full abso60

[compact tangle]

this is based on 0% DEF?

[formal spoke]

I capped feathers before mdc raised with full buffs. Now, no cant cap. Quite far off

[finite crag]

It seems you need really insane stat to cap feather which isn’t feasible until like full abso60 like you.

[finite crag]

No. That’s gloom

[compact tangle]

ahh right

just checked my gloom stats too, yeah my feathers top at 52.7 whereas the rest can top at 61.2

think it's really just the base skill DMG % of feathers lol, Skill DMG - 165%

[finite crag]

Yea. Surprisingly w low dmg %

It still is a big chunk of dps

[compact tangle]

well let's just hope they do a "rebalance" and increase the Skill DMG % then

lol

[finite crag]

I doubt it. I’m new to bishop but I think bishop dps is in a decent place.

[restive cipher]

Can you tell me when to shell in Ark so that I can fill in for guild runs
Tried Ark once on bish and failed miserably. Can I increase the length that shell is active? Thx

[idle solstice]

Shell when you see the “crack” (this is what happens when there’s no shell)
There’s a shell duration hyper that can extend application to 20 seconds

Shell can cover as much as cracks as possible, not a one time thing as long as it’s within the buff duration

[restive cipher]

Do you know the name of the special Node or shell duration hyper? Not sure which one to craft. Or a picture? 😉

[tiny vector]

Damn i see your HP is like 120k! I'm 214 and just at 98k so I die on anything past Nmag so incredibly fast lol. I'm working on changing my lines to HP though.

I just joined this discord but I've been playing for about 4 months now as a bish main. I gotta say, it's tough to main!

[compact tangle]

It’s on your skills page, not V-Matrix (where your lv100 skills and hyper skills are, and not lv200 tab)

Under Hyper ➜ Passive ➜ Holy Magic Shell

Holy Magic shell is a lv60 buff skill by itself

It is also pet-buffable

Added pictures for your convenience

[restive cipher]

Thank you !!

Bishop is not my main so trying to figure her out.

[compact tangle]

You’re welcome

[restive cipher]

So how to make the duration 20 seconds instead of 15 😳

[compact tangle]

Under hyper passive

Need level up holy magic shell - persist

[restive cipher]

Oh tyvm!

[pallid lance]

Anyone got ab wheel for bishop pre 200

Seems kinda weak ancient weapon still need 2 hit

[compact tangle]

assuming you already lv150, just stay in Vengeance mode.

AB wheel just equip big bang, fountain of vengeance.

That's all you need lol

[next stratus]

Hey all, potentially dumb question: what do y'all do for pets? I find bishop in particular is heavily reliant on them...?

[compact tangle]

if you're not using free pets = you do not have at least 12 pet buff slots.

Also depends on whether your question is towards mobbing or bossing?

And also depends on your initial question of "what do we do for pets", you're asking based on the default 1 + 1 pet? Or towards what pets should we buy or?

[next stratus]

I'm literally asking what you do for pets....like do you use the free ones, or do you buy ones....etc.

[woven marlin]

Use at least wonderblue pets... once you are high enough you can invest into mpets

Bishop needs a lot of buffs, and the free ones doesnt really help with that

[next stratus]

Ty!

[rose pelican]

what are the recommended nodes just for AB purpose?

i'm looking at just big bang, bahamut, and door.
but do i need genesis/triumph? because i would need another 2 trash nodes just to have them.
or do i replace genesis/triumph with door or bahamut?

also, what are the recommended skill nodes for AB? i switched out benediction and ethereal form because of their low uptime.
i only have angel of balance, peacemaker, divine punishment, mana overload, and unreliable memory currently
should i craft buffs like sharp eyes/combat orders next?

[woven marlin]

The same as bossing nodes except AR

For skills nodes, craft decent Sharp Eye... i wouldnt bother with decent combar order since they are alot of paladin for that buff... also if you are lacking node slot, just take out divine punishment since it kinda sucks for ABing

[rose pelican]

oh yea just noticed divine punishment cancels immediately once that specific monster is killed

[unique vortex]

nice

[compact tangle]

for ABing, just stay on Vengeance mode and equip the below skills on your skill wheel:

1. Big Bang
2. Heaven's Door
3. Peacemaker
4. Fountain of Vengeance

more than enough haha

[rose pelican]

🫡 ty

actually have genesis on my skill wheel since i started playing this hs alt 2 years ago

[compact tangle]

you can keep Genesis in your skill wheel too, provided if your genesis can one hit KO the mobs wherever you're training at

[rose pelican]

yeah cant, though aoe is quite big, but the animation is kinda long too, will just have those 4 skills in AB

[next stratus]

Hey fellow bishops, can someone post a picture of the sort of equips one would need to actually be able to get rewards from Ark? Just curious what my goals should be.

[formal spoke]

theres no such thing as rule of thumb gears to get rewards from ark. you have to deal the same damage but what varies is your team's run time.

lets say if the team runs 10 mins ark, you have plenty of time to catch up that 2% and maybe some minor gears would suffice

but if your team runs like 1 min ark, you will need a hell lot more gears to get that 2% in 1 min.

what you can do is just jump in ark with your current gear, whack and see how the dmg% goes and find the team suitable for you to get that 2%

or find the team that can down it in 30s and you don't have to worry about that 2% all together

[next stratus]

Are these flames any good?

[formal spoke]

both are good to use for now, don't reroll this away yet, work on other pieces

[coarse berry]

guys betwen boss atk or % dmg ign rate for hypers, witch its better?

[compact tangle]

On the 2 choices you stated. Never ever DMG Ignore Rate %. That hyper stat is equivalent to EVD

[naive crest]

If I playing support while bossing should I unequip this from my pets ?

[fiery eagle]

Yup for sure. In theory if you’re full support you won’t be in ri anyway

[formal spoke]

Tbh later in the game even if you play a dps role in bossing you have to take it out anyway or else you’ll probably be dead

[naive crest]

Noted thanks guys

[cinder nimbus]

hi hi new bishop here, wanna understand the mechanic of heaven door, does it really revive ppl ?

[sand geode]

Heaven door = give allies 1UP

Not revive the dead players

[dire skiff]

Wait why? Is that why I have been dying in Damian? We need to take this off pet?

[compact tangle]

If your Blood of the Divine skill is active, you are only recovering 1% HP for each Angel Ray you cast, and also from any other skill from your party. You may end up dying due to not recovering enough HP fast enough.

BoD is useful for content that doesn't really require your survivability

Or in other words, for content that your HP upkeep from potions is sufficient

[dire skiff]

Oooo

[dire skiff]

Thank you so much

[compact tangle]

You're welcome

[unkempt hare]

Anyone have ab and bossing (dmg) skill wheel

[naive crest]

Bishop have no ifframe?

[woven marlin]

Not really an iframe, but do have a vskill that will consume a set amount of mp instead of hp when getting hit

[naive crest]

More so the burst interrupt

[woven marlin]

Tbh dont know if it works agaisnt KB

But if you have benediction active it should block the KB

[compact tangle]

no it doesn't, benediction is abnormal status RES and DMG reduction only

[compact tangle]

for which content specifically, holy magic shell can guard 100% against collision damage and phy ATK damage from enemies/bosses, but doesn't exactly work for late game bosses

[compact tangle]

i would assume the burst interrupted would be referring to Divine Punishment

[naive crest]

Yes divine punishment

[compact tangle]

well the only iframe i know for bishop right now would be Ethereal Form which is a common mage class V Skill Node

[naive crest]

Ethereal form > divine punishment then should work

[unkempt hare]

Is there a priority in which v skill should be maxed next?

[compact tangle]

Angel of Balance and Peacemaker

[unkempt hare]

Ty!

[tall steeple]

frankly, i wouldnt worry about your v skills yet. You have too many class skills on that wont really be helping you much. You'd want to boost your skills, not get more cskills

your boost nodes need reworking. and in the process of reworking them, you will get some of v1-4 nodes.

• BB-AR-Baha
• Baha-BB-AR
  these arent really the best trinodes to use.

For pure bossing, you'd want
A) AR
B) Feather(which is shared with Genesis)
C) to a lesser degree Fountain of Venge(shared with HDoor)
D) Bahamut is good to have, but it's utility is so limited.

(E) Big Bang if you really want the extra punch for mobbing. (F) AW as a really optional option, and imo really used only because it makes sense for a 4boost node setup.

I'm guess you have 3 routes.

1. Build another 2 sets of tri-nodes to use a 4boost node setup to boost all6 skills in the long run. i.e. add in 2x Feather-Door-AW (in any none same-base order)

2. Open up more nodestones to set-up for AR, Feather, Venge x2 to replace the current 2.

3. go a 4 skill set up with 3boost node setup (lvl25+5)
   abc
   bcd
   dae

[warm ravine]

What passives and in what order should you skill the hyper skill points?

[hollow gust]

have fun reading! @potent epoch

[potent epoch]

Thank you boo!!❤️

[distant gazelle]

should i have something else in place of maple world goddess's blessing?

i've been struggling to hit contribution in lotus/archon if it matters

[fiery eagle]

Do you have a necro wand?

[distant gazelle]

yes

[fiery eagle]

Hmm how long are your boss runs 😅 i have alts that are worse geared who can make contribution in 1.5 minute runs

Could it be more of how you’re using your v4?

[distant gazelle]

they're pretty short, i'm typically getting carried

very possible though, i usually wait for someone to stun then v4

[fiery eagle]

Oh! Maybe consider putting ethereal form instead? Or open a slot and put it in

Usually i time ethereal with v4 to ensure it gets fully casted

[distant gazelle]

i'll try that, thanks

i've never used eth or mana overload, so i wasn't sure if i was missing something really significant

[fiery eagle]

Hmm everything does help when you can get it but alot of your dps relies on getting that v4 in

So like i think your runs shouldn’t be under a minute - in lotus get your v4 off in the first 5s before the laser starts speeding up. P2 and 3, ensure you have either hms/ethereal active while you cast to prevent interruption

Hms in p2/3 only protects against lotus’ knockback though not getting seduced/stunned from falling debris.. maybe if no ethereal then bene and hms to protect against everything and v4 ahaha got to make that cast

[distant gazelle]

i'll give it a whirl, i'm definitely more focused on dodging than anything during those phases

[fiery eagle]

In archon you should be able to get 3 v4s off hopefully? So one during p1 after the initial stun, second in p2 (try ethereal with this one) hopefully after he gets pulled to corner, and p3 make sure to only use it when his shield is down

[distant gazelle]

okay ty i'll try it out

i've never bothered to check our run times, but ark dies so fast these days that i usually don't see crack unless a couple people are missing

if that's any kind of useful reference

[fiery eagle]

You can look via your boss stats page!

[vocal tiger]

Do you use defense smash 4 and some/full buff? It should also help with damage.

My nodes look similar to yours, I only have a lvl 40 inherit wand and manage to hit contribution consistently.
But maybe my runs are slower.

Btw I heard that p1 in lotus doesn't count for contribution so I focused on bursting in p2. Is it true?

[fiery eagle]

No, the entire fight counts

[distant gazelle]

i've never used ds4, i usually buff with whatever i have on hand

i think i've neglected my hypers too, so i'm catching those up

[compact tangle]

from bosses like damien/lucid onwards, culvert and mu lung, DS4 is really a must have

[pliant ermine]

Anyone have any advice when to use blood of divine ? Or we generally do not use it

[sick bison]

You can use it for final damage increase or if you are in need of hp regen especially for the whole party

[woven marlin]

Most ppl dont use it because it negates your healing

[compact tangle]

Use BOD for GHB, Culvert, Mulung

Boss runs and anything else that prioritizes survivability, do not use BOD

[warped jewel]

What everyone's thoughts on bishop rework?

How much better will be dps be

[dire skiff]

Lowkey looks like a. Nerf

[warped jewel]

Kinda thought our DPS was buffed but less support for party

[dire skiff]

ehh the skill that does most dmg (v4) got nerfed by 20%, angel of balance duration went from 60secs to 30 but double lines

and like you said support buffs went down

so i dk i guess well see

i took it as a nerf

[compact tangle]

It’s actually for the better. Idk how you see it as a nerf

[compact tangle]

Not true for “less support” it actually kinda irons out even cause every class had an adjustment

[compact tangle]

V4 is still solid at 360% Skill DMG.
Will definitely still cap

Don’t just look at those skills that were adjusted “lower”, look at the entire chart of changes.

Blessed Harmony 15% ➜ 25% FD
Blessed Ensemble 15% ➜ 25% MATK

Our fountain and feathers got a bump which is for the better in overall DMG output

Our angel ray had a small bump up too

Overall pre-patch the only skills that had trouble guaranteeing capping were feathers and fountain

[warped jewel]

If caps even matter anymore lol

But even for non capping players, I believe this is still an increase

[compact tangle]

My brain 😂

Are you trying to say

“Do caps even matter anymore”?

[compact tangle]

It is. Overall

[pliant ermine]

But we lose
10% BA , 5% CD and 5% MA from advance blessing
( unless we dun received those buff then nvm ) For 10% FD + 10% MA

And eternal form didn’t got buff unlike the other vskills that get more lines etc

Angel of balance duration got shorter, means shorter duration for us to received FD buff for lines that we can’t cap? ( hyper stats line ), but hey now it sync with DS4 now , which is nice just more manual cast

Overall I believe our passive gives us quite little stats compare to other class because it was shifted to our party buff ( advance blessing ) but a buff is a buff and compare to other class like fire poison it’s still a buff haha

That said I wished they change blood of divine into a burst skill or 10sec duration or sth

[compact tangle]

Overall I feel that it’s still good. The overall DPS is much better now with fountain and feather on par

Unbuffed still can cap 95% of the time around 96 to 98m on h Damien for v4

AR averaging 70m per line
Fountain and Feathers averaging 50m per line

And my weapon is still lv44 only, so there’s still a lot of DMG unachieved yet

[pliant ermine]

may I ask what your emblem ratio haha, I do think I have trouble capping , but I also using a level 40 weapon

[compact tangle]

For armours 1BA 6 CD
Weapon CD
MSW BA

[compact tangle]

your weapon is lv40 Necro?

[pliant ermine]

yeahh

[compact tangle]

i'm full abso

maybe perhaps that's why you felt that there is loss in damage or smth else

but overall is still, generally for the better, really

more balanced DPS output, there is no diminished damage

[brave hedge]

Is it worth to take out adv blessing CD to give more shell time? Hmmmm now that it’s only 5% and most people got pretty high CD

[compact tangle]

I’ve never pumped blessing - CD, but yes magic shell reinforce duration is good

[brave hedge]

Oki

[brave hedge]

But Adv BA5% now worth or you pick something else too

[compact tangle]

yeah i still just keep BA 5%

[solemn sage]

Hows bishop aft changes

[compact tangle]

not only fountain and feathers skill DMG% is the same, it is also much better after the rebalance, we are actually able to hit better DMG with these additional skills

[solemn sage]

It would help if only bishop is ard some maps then

[brave hedge]

Angel of Balance has became a burst on its own very powerful but need to time properly. I see fountain does incredible damage as well

[compact tangle]

manual cast lor haha

[twilit gazelle]

Is there a reccomended pre and post lvl 200 skill wheel?

[compact tangle]

yes and no

you're asking in terms of AB-ing in training fields? or for bossing

[twilit gazelle]

Both, any, whatever you have will help

[compact tangle]

Skills Setup
In my view, the simplest setup for ABing and Bossing for players of all tiers:

for ABing

• Big Bang
• Heaven's Door
• Fountain of Vengeance
• Rope Lift (once lv 200)
• Peacemaker (once lv 200)

for Bossing

• Fountain of Vengeance
• Angel Ray
• Peacemaker (once lv200)
• Angel of Balance (once lv200)
• Divine Punishment (once lv200)

[twilit gazelle]

Thank you!
Do you use any pre sets? (The P in the skill wheel where you can combo a few moves to one input)

[compact tangle]

well generally i'll put angel ray and peacemaker together. if you don't have necro weapon for fair trade, you can add a third one which is angelic wrath

[placid gust]

Newbie question: what hyper skills do yall add?

[compact tangle]

Holy Magic Shell - Reinforce Duration
Holy Magic Shell - Cooldown Cutter
Holy Symbol - EXP Increase
Advance Blessing - Bonus ATK
Advance Blessing - Boss ATK

[placid gust]

How about hyper stats?

[compact tangle]

Prioritise Final DMG and MAG DMG increase

[placid gust]

Do you get the extra lines one?

[compact tangle]

Yeap this too but later game. Depends on what level you are and also what are your goals

[warm ravine]

So guys, i just hit 200 with the bishop but completly new to V matrix. Any1 could help this newbie out?

[compact tangle]

general rule of thumb level up boost nodes more first for now

big bang
angel ray
bahamut
heaven's door
genesis

what's your gear and progression like? so that we can advise on which skill nodes to prioritise

[warm ravine]

Ill send you some ss later!

[warm ravine]

focus on a trio first?

[compact tangle]

yeah

[warm ravine]

Angel Ray, Big Bang, Bahamut?

[compact tangle]

yeap AR + BB + Mutmut in 1 Trio

another trio can be BB + AR + Mutmut

[warm ravine]

Thanks a lot

Just derp everything into the first trio?

[swift mantle]

maxed out trinodes judgement next or angel?

[compact tangle]

angel and powdermaker first

[swift mantle]

powdermaker?

[compact tangle]

peacemaker

when that bird explodes looks like spreading glitter powder everywhere

[swift mantle]

whys that a priority?

[compact tangle]

Avenging Angel now can dish out 2,520 lines

Divine Punishment bursts 1,260

divide out their cooldown timing they deal the same number of lines now

but at least avenging angel provides more stable consistent dps in case your divine punishment attack gets cancelled or accidentally deployed

peacemaker is a no-brainer every 10 seconds farting glitter powder with a 28 hit collision and a 48 hit fart

[swift mantle]

haha ok thanks alot

[compact tangle]

but of course the best case scenario would be if you can level them up equally

if you are rushing to max V skills

Angel > Powdermaker > Divine Punishment

this is cause Divine Punishment have slightly higher skill DMG % compared to the earlier V skills

so either way DP can cap easier or deal higher damage anytime

[swift mantle]

any advice gear wise? failed necro 11 times 😫

[compact tangle]

its okay continue to save resources then use event scrolls for necro attempt

[swift mantle]

what CP to solo hmag?

[compact tangle]

don't look at CP

It's C-ompletely P-ointless

[flint anvil]

That's ok I failed like 50 times before I got necro on event scrolls.

[swift mantle]

@flint anvil nah that's insane what was ur odds I ran mine all at 10%

[flint anvil]

I forgot so many. But a lot of them were without scrolls. Most of them ill say

Then I kept failing with scrolls from event

Then on the last one I failed 2 scrolls from event then with the third I went in TS and bought a 5% to pair with with the last one from event and it worked

[ionic vine]

guys whats the way to distribute hyper skill points?

[compact tangle]

@ionic vine

[ionic vine]

ty

[cosmic orchid]

Hi. Fresh lvl 150 bishop trying to figure out righteously indignant. Any tips for wheel? Just use recommended?

[compact tangle]

Just keep RI buff on vengeance mode. More than enough.

At your level, skill wheel just equip

1. Big Bang
2. Fountain of Vengeance

[hollow lily]

Hi everyone,
Does bishop give a skill that enhances the party’s crit rate (or reduces the boss CRIT RES)? Sorry I couldn’t find it using the search function here!

[hollow lily]

Nvm found it, Angelic Wrath!!! In 2nd job no less, wow

[hallow temple]

is any bishop looking for damien here ?

[fair lark]

Rip. No more resting bishop!

[hallow temple]

is mana overload or unreliable memory better to max before benediction?

[compact tangle]

unreliable memory definitely last

between benediction and mana overload, benediction takes precedence

[errant smelt]

What's the skill that protects player from death during ark screen crack?

[compact tangle]

Holy Crab Shell (lv60 skill)

[errant smelt]

Is it a legit skill? Don't see it though, how does it work? I went to ark with my guild and my HP isn't even reduced every screen crack let alone death

[compact tangle]

Holy magic shell

[chrome notch]

hey i am new. is there a guide where to assign skill point after lv 100?

[compact tangle]

go with big bang and all your lv.100 passive skills first

[chrome notch]

ok, thank you!

[naive crest]

Any bishops have some hdam advice and skill wheel ?

[compact tangle]

Hard Damien you really don’t need to do much to be honest. You can just put fountain of health from time to time if it’s convenient for you.

Black altars is a must to clear.

Everyone must be responsible in pulling away the glowing giant blue balls

[chrome notch]

is there a levling guide for bishop? from lvl 170-200

[compact tangle]

In today’s content, just do the below:

1. Clear your daily tasks diligently
2. Clear daily hunts (mini dungeon) as much as you have with tickets. Be sure to select auto move to next stage
3. Clear monster park weekly
4. Rest of your daily AB should go to Star Force Field to farm
5. Clear daily hunt quests (the one where you have 2 quests daily to clear depending on your level)

That’s pretty much about it

Edge of Space is one consideration for more EXP as opposed to Star Force Field but you’d be giving up farming Mesos and potion drops

[umbral brook]

Hi. Please someone share perfect nodes and skill preset for bossing. Ty

[compact tangle]

Preset for bossing in terms of skill wheel, the easiest way is to just stay on Vengeance mode

Then equip

1. Angel Ray + Peacemaker
2. Divine Punishment
3. Fountain of Vengeance

The rest of the skills and buffs can just leave it to your pet to activate

[unkempt hare]

What’s vengeance mode

[compact tangle]

Righteously indignant buff. A lv150 buff skill.

Buff duration is unlimited, it’s just toggling between vengeance (offense) and benevolent (support) mode

[unkempt hare]

How do you know when it’s vengeance vs benevolent?

[compact tangle]

Open your active buff window

[kind saffron]

Hey bros, bishop its f2p friendly? Or its better phantom or pally ? I only will spend on 1 necro weapon so I wana know the best choice for that

[compact tangle]

Go bishop definitely. The necro weapon will take you places

[compact tangle]

Additional note, good for farming + can solo bosses relatively well too

[steep iron]

Is bishop still valuable in boss parties?

[compact tangle]

always

[steep iron]

time to swap to bishop from lumi then LOL

[compact tangle]

Yeh, the eq you can cut over. Just the whoopee and skinny whopee you need to change

[kind saffron]

Can i ask , bishop have more damage than phantom ? Or less with same gears

[compact tangle]

I don’t play phantom so I can’t really say. But generally I don’t see phantoms deal that much dmg in my server

[unkempt hare]

Sir, when time permits are you able to share your bossing wheel + preset and pet auto buffs? I am trying to help my gf with it but bishop is so very foreign for me

[compact tangle]

Ehhhhhh, before I do so, just so you know I’m still using Type-A skill wheel and my pet auto buffs are based on Petite Luna pets, along with a bucketload of V-Matrix skills

Could you let me know what level the bishop is at now?

I’ll probably help to jot down a list in point form instead

[unkempt hare]

She is 227 and has petite pets

Maybe I can ss hers and see what may change

[compact tangle]

Great idea

[unkempt hare]

Thank you! Let me get pics

She does 1.5bish in immortal but I think she can definitely hit more

[compact tangle]

Thanks for sharing, definitely decent stats

Let me sift through the skills and all and I’ll get back

[compact tangle]

For V-Matrix i suggest a complete overhaul of how the nodes are placed and equipped

Priority should be for boost nodes to be completely maxed out as V-Skills generally will be easier to hit caps as compared to lv.100 skills

For pet buffs just load everything in, less decent speed infusion, sharp eyes and combat orders for now based on your gf's V-matrix

for pre-set skills, since she has fair trade, angelic wrath can be removed.

The only preset she should use as a key skill to continue using would be Angel Ray + Peacemaker

everything else will be manual single casts, including fountain of vengeance

Hope this helps!

For bossing ideally the only additional skills you need to manual single cast will be Fountain of Vengeance and Divine Punishment

[unkempt hare]

Thank you so much for this!!! Will slowly go over it with her

[compact tangle]

You’re welcome

[hallow temple]

is the debuff from heal in vengeance mode really worth putting on a boost node ?

[compact tangle]

?? Heal debuff? Boost node?

Can I see a screenshot? I’m lost

[hallow temple]

angelic wrath

[compact tangle]

Oh angelic wrath

Yes definitely should be on boost node because at max lv60, the FD provided is 240% to compensate for the low skill DMG %

Angelic wrath provides 7.5% crit res debuff so this skill can benefit non necro weapon players

But if say you already have a necro weapon. You don’t really need to use this skill anymore

But with that being said, due to the number of skills we have required for boost nodes on V-Matrix, Angelic Wrath is unavoidable to have under boost node trios

[hallow temple]

i skipped big bang and bahamut. just cuz too many

i have necro so it shouldnt be a huge difference ive been doin alright

[compact tangle]

you hitting your cap easily now?

[hallow temple]

not yet my hyper stats for bossing are zero. and my necro is lvl 26/40

i think my lines are around 8-9 mil buffed at the moment

its a second “main”

[compact tangle]

I see. Well bahamut would definitely make a difference for the sacred seal debuff it casts on the boss, your additional line dmg from attacking with angel ray is affected by bahamut’s boost node

Nevertheless. If you wanna focus lesser on trios then just go with Angel Ray + Heaven’s Door + Genesis

[hallow temple]

oh i did not realize that

[hallow temple]

thats currently what i have

i guess i will end up needing angelic wrath bahamut and might as well add big bang

[compact tangle]

Yeah that’s why the just do it nodes are

Angel ray + big bang + bahamut x2
Heaven’s door + genesis + angelic wrath x2

Total 4 v matrix slots and fully slot enhanced. Done for all

[jovial abyss]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a BS or PH for my Ark/Hmag daily run.

Time: 6:00 PM server time.

NA Scania

[violet delta]

So once we have necro we no longer use angelic wrath when solo? Should we still use in a party?

[compact tangle]

Not necessary to use in party. If you have necro means your party more or less has necro too

[violet delta]

Thanks.

[vocal anchor]

He guys. Just started on a bishop a few days. But at 100k dps and level 132 I still struggle on horntail to do damage with recommended boss build. Is there a skill rotation for this level that’s doesn’t take 6 minutes to hold?

[compact tangle]

which difficulty of horntail

since you're lv132 i'm gonna assume you are referring to Single Chaos Horntail

What is your equipment like now

[vocal anchor]

Not even chaos. Hard lawl.

And skills recommended are..

[compact tangle]

ahh you're really just attacking with genesis and angel ray and whatnot

unless you're lv150 righteously indignant buff would allow your fountain to be dealing consistent damage

i'd suggest focusing on levelling up first?

otherwise just clear normal difficulty or hard pink bean solo first with angel rays

build up boss accessory set effects as well

one step at a time

[vocal anchor]

Thanks. Will do that. 150 won’t take that long I guess.

[vocal tiger]

I thought I read that any crit rate above 100% is translated into crit dmg. Wouldn't it still be worth it then to use angelic wrath then?

[compact tangle]

If your total crit rate (for example is 150%), and the boss crit res is 40%, your effective crit rate is 110%.

You won’t need to use angelic wrath as that 7.5% Crit RES rebuff wouldn’t make a difference

[vocal anchor]

Hé Guinnes, level 150 done. 153 now. Any advice on how my skill bar should look for expeditions? And what hyper passive skills to take?

[real jungle]

Your sf is too low, sf should be the focus not mythic gear

Try to get levels and reach 200 asap

[compact tangle]

hyper passive skill for now, i believe you have 1 added to Holy Symbol - EXP?

for your lv151 point, use it on Advanced Blessing - Bonus ATK

There is a lv.150 buff called Righteously Indignant, toggle it once and just leave it as it is.

You should be able to cast Fountain of Vengeance, that provides consistent damage

for your equipment, continue to try and enhance their Star Force value, but be sure to use Shield Scroll and Shielding Ward

[vocal anchor]

Growing. 183 now. Any tips? Sadly unlucky on on expeditions (no drop last 12 runs) and sf levels (no gain on last 10 with scrolls)

[unkempt hare]

When you train are you HP potion positive? I spend more potions than I can loot 😦

[compact tangle]

HP pot overload

That was AF700

But 770 still always looting more

Where are you training

[unkempt hare]

510 @compact tangle

Do you use RI while training? Can you show me your ab wheel

[compact tangle]

Yes

[compact tangle]

Hmmm what is your gear like now. Do you have mpets?

[unkempt hare]

Yes mpet

[compact tangle]

Just keep RI on, and just the below skills equipped on skill wheel:

1. Bang Bang into the roof
2. Powdermaker
3. Fountain of Venven
4. Tom Holland's Door

Your pet buffs should have eggbenedict, crabshell, angel of baboons, pathetic memory

[unkempt hare]

Will try that out appreciate you

[compact tangle]

[kindred igloo]

hihi this might be asked alot times already but, anyone know the perfect trio nodes for bs ?

[compact tangle]

2x Angel Ray | Big Bang | Bahamut
2x Heaven's Door | Genesis | Angelic Wrath

[kindred igloo]

thanks !!

[compact tangle]

You're welcome!

[vale hare]

Someone pinned this

[compact tangle]

@cloud phoenix good morning/night where you are

[vocal anchor]

hi guys, im about to get my first character to lv 200, a bishop. Anything i should focus on, start with in terms of using the nodes and which skills?

[vocal anchor]

Does this also work? Still 2 of all you mentioned, but different. Not sure if matters

[vocal anchor]

This should be the same 🙂

[stark notch]

Dang

[kindred igloo]

hihi can you share me your bossing skill wheel and preset >

[compact tangle]

Yes all good. As long as you have 2 of all I mentioned.

Sorry for the delayed reply guys, not entirely free for 2 weeks for now

[compact tangle]

I’m using skill wheel type A tho, you need a type B preview?

[formal spoke]

I dont engage on this discord much but playing bishop using Type A is something to call me from my grave and to be commended on

[kindred igloo]

yee im using type B but seems like cant fit all the skills ahhaha

[compact tangle]

As long as I can still swap RI modes, engage both types of fountains, still able to shell, benediction and revive. I’m good.

Just missing dispel and heal cause not exactly needed nowadays.

[compact tangle]

What skills are you using

[kindred igloo]

basically everything hahaha including dispel and res for ark pt

[compact tangle]

If I wanted to type A I can also fit dispel

[kindred igloo]

can i see your skill preset ?

[compact tangle]

Clockwise direction
Page 1

• Angel Ray + Peacemaker
• Teleport
• Fountain of Vengeance
• Ethereal Form + Divine Punishment
• Spare Slot for whatever I wanna put

Page 2

• Righteously Indignant Buff
• Bahamut
• Holy Magic Shell
• Benediction
• Ressurection

[kindred igloo]

thanksssss

[compact tangle]

Do note this is what works well for me and my playstyle. Many people have adapted to type B but I just cannot 😹😹😹

[stark notch]

Lmao anyone got a type b

[compact tangle]

Gotta ask the other bishops, sorry

[unkempt hare]

Test

[stark notch]

ies

[vivid hare]

Hi there , can someone point me to a post / image i can see all of the buffs i can provide for my team ? Thanks 😉

[junior fable]

ello , im recruiting for a will team , i need determinate player who want to learn will mechanic , we will practice saturday 17:40 to 19:05 ingame time ( just in time for fort ) requierement is 60 MDC with 20% IED we have a shade ( need pally and bishop )

[cloud phoenix]

@junior fable don't use the class forums for bossing. you can use the bossing parties category moving forward

[wraith hemlock]

How much HP does a Bishop need for Will / Gloom since Magic Guard reduces the damage recieved by 30%. If the max damage dealt from a single hit is 280,000, 30% would be 196,000. So would 225-230k HP be sufficient for a Bishop in these bosses? If not, then what would be the recommended amount of HP?

[sand geode]

For Will it's all about fixed damage, which negates the Magic Guard effect

I would recommend at least 250k HP for both bosses

Unless you are skilled enough to dodge almost everything then around 220k will do'

But in Will's gate tests each mistake is 234k fixed damage

[vocal anchor]

Hi guys, what hyper stats should i focus on? Any tips?

[compact tangle]

are you hitting your current cap with full buffs?

[hallow temple]

is there a way to tell the difference between having a maxed node bahamut and a no trio for bahamut in dmg for angel ray? it seems to not show on battle stats. or is it just higher min dmg lines if u have bahamut maxed ?

[compact tangle]

the latter. Basically the higher level your bahamut boost node is, the resultant sacred seal additional dmg will be higher

[vocal anchor]

I’m not sure what that means tbh. Sorry. Fairly new. What is the cap? Can I show you something?

[compact tangle]

Oh basically are your attacks hitting your Max DMG number?

[compact tangle]

you can show anything as long as it's not explicit

[vocal anchor]

How do I know what my max dmg number even is.

[vocal anchor]

Hehe

[compact tangle]

you can check via Character Info

[compact tangle]

Core Nodes as priority to max out

@chrome notch

[compact tangle]

@cloud phoenix thank you 😽

[cloud phoenix]

Tenkyu WILSONNNNNNNN

[compact tangle]

Nodes are basically the "slots" on your V-Matrix. V-Matrix is essentially like a "5th job"

Nodestones are the drops you can get from farming in Arcane River fields, opening a nodestone can get you one of the following:

1. Skill Node
2. Boost Node
3. Special Node

The nodes that you should focus on first would be Boost Nodes, which enhances your Final DMG for your general skills such as Angel Ray, Big Bang, Triumph Feather, Fountain of Vengeance etc. A boost node is also known as "Trio Node", as each boost node consists of 3 skill segments being boosted.

Boost nodes to go for are in the pinned section in this chat #1059992476770914345 message

[vocal anchor]

dont think i hit this

[compact tangle]

You should focus on Final DMG Increase % and MAG DMG Increase % hyper stats first

[compact tangle]

@wraith jewel here

[wraith jewel]

Thanks bro

[wraith jewel]

Hi guys need some help.

[compact tangle]

@wraith jewel refer to this

[wraith jewel]

Do u mind share Ur skill preset?

[compact tangle]

Sure! Currently i have the 4 presets are:

1. Angel Ray + Peacemaker
2. Blood of the Divine + Benediction (for manual buffing)
3. Unreliable Memory + Angel of Balance (for manual buffing)
4. Ethereal Form + Divine Punishment

[wraith jewel]

Wa nice

Can use for bossing oso?

[compact tangle]

my manual buffing is for bossing content if need to

hahaha

otherwise tbh i really only just use preset 1

the rest i don't even touch 95% of the time

😂

[wraith jewel]

Haha wa

U should do a video out bro haha

[dense geyser]

Hi, what is the v matrix / pefect trio for bishop guys?

[thorn yacht]

Check the pinned messages.

[stark notch]

O wow it's actually there haha that's wild

Can we discuss and approve a bossing wheel? With some rational behind it for us noobs to understand

[compact tangle]

I can help contribute for Type-A Bossing Wheel LOL

Others can contribute for Type-B Bossing Wheel

[stark notch]

I'll make a prototype b but I'm not even in the higher raids

So I'll post it be 100% wrong and you guys can critique hahahaa

[thorn yacht]

Hello good sir @compact tangle.

I see that you say core nodes are :#1059992476770914345 message (I see angelic wrath.... hmmm?)

but in your skill wheel: #1059992476770914345 message
you don't have angelic wrath.

May I ask why? - Necro weapon has made it useless? (crit res debuff 7.5%)

• I have it on my skill wheel preset, and I was gonna take it off since it's uses are not impactful (have necro weapon, and lowest damaging skill + it delays my angel ray every few seconds to cast angelic wrath)

[compact tangle]

Yes you are right

If you are non necro weapon user, angelic wrath definitely will help if your crit rate is on the lower end

But if you are necro user, it’s negligible to use angelic wrath

[thorn yacht]

ty brother

[stark notch]

I thought there was also crit resistance no

[thorn yacht]

yes, but necro has 100% crit rate

no need.

necro weapon in specific.

[stark notch]

o really

[compact tangle]

yes necro weapon has a skill called Fair Trade, it tops up 100% to your current crit rate perpetually

it's called Fair Trade because of the much harder success rate of crafting a Necro weapon

[stark notch]

Sorry lemme rephrase

With the 100% citrate most people will have enough crit rate despite the Crit resistance of a boss?

kinda confused how it works like for lotus it says 70% crit resistance

so... would you need 170%?

[compact tangle]

yes correct

[stark notch]

to 100% crit that fool

[compact tangle]

so if your base crit along with buffs or whatnot hits 70% or 80%, top up with fair trade 100% that is gonna be 170 to 180%

[compact tangle]

yeap

[stark notch]

8. i only have 160% with a necro haha so i guess i gotta use it

[compact tangle]

60% is your base crit rate, before food buffs?

[stark notch]

sorry 136%

36 yes

need to eat that food buff

for 66

[compact tangle]

you can potentially hit 186% my friend

30% from Carrot Juice
20% from Tangyoon - Mushroom Noodle

[stark notch]

interesting

[compact tangle]

food buffs can stack with tangyoon buffs

hope this helps!

[stark notch]

yeah it does 80

for the future not rn but definately for the future

[compact tangle]

[stark notch]

then 7.5 from paladin haha right

[compact tangle]

idk about how much crit res debuff from other classes hahaha

[thorn yacht]

don't forget fever buff too

[stark notch]

It doesn't last that long thonno?

[loud reef]

@compact tangle hi boss, i need your advice on how i should move forward from here

[compact tangle]

Is this char on burning or smth now

[loud reef]

yes

[compact tangle]

Solid

Get to 220 asap you’ll have more v slots unlocked

Redo your boost nodes to get the 4 in pinned

[loud reef]

i'll try to figure that out

the icons are confusing haha

anything else?

what about gears

also what is best way to convert my crystals to mesos

[compact tangle]

You can refer to the words stated

Then for v skills. Focus on angel of balance as priority, followed by powder maker, then divine punishment

Along the way mana overload if you can it’s a perpetual buff

[compact tangle]

Was just about to go here. Focus on your weapon exalting to 40 first and getting legend potential through elite dungeons (farm the material for the scroll)

The chaos zak helm and belt should be able to help you hold on a lil longer

You can rank up the shoulder for more def and the cape for more MP too

Secondary weapon can wait that one no rush

I see you have m label alr so that helps a lot too alr

[loud reef]

Exalting means increasing the level cap of the equipment right

[compact tangle]

yes correct! exhaling it to lv 40 with a michael jaihin wand as fodder accordingly

or you can use the event exhaling stones (50%) as well

[loud reef]

ok

rip

i dont have Angel Ray | Big Bang | Bahamut

[compact tangle]

once it is lv.40, then refine it before attempting mastercraft

[compact tangle]

you don't have to follow the exact trio, as long as within 4 v-matrix slots, you cover all 6 skills with 2 of each can alr

2x Angel Ray, 2x Big Bang, 2x Heaven's Door, 2x Bahamut etc

[loud reef]

oh

wow this is mind boggling

[loud reef]

@compact tangle as long as my bahamut, genesis, heavens door, angelic wrath, big bang and angel ray all each become lv2 after nodes means correct right

[loud reef]

dont have powder maker. will do angel of balance and divine punishment then

[compact tangle]

each become lv 2 without enhancement = you have 2 boost nodes equipped.

so yes correct

[loud reef]

for slot enhancement i should prioritise the 4 boost nodes?

[compact tangle]

sure but angel of balance priority

[loud reef]

and for this do i just enhance all?

[compact tangle]

boost nodes solid! i vetted

you got all you need alr

based on your node setup, give slot enhancements priority to the first and 3rd slots

[loud reef]

may i ask the thought process behind this

want to understand why instead of just following haha

[compact tangle]

cause 1st and 3rd have angel ray and bahamut (these 2 will be your primary dmg contributors)

1st have genesis (which enhances triumph feather for additional hits)
3rd have heaven's door (which enhances fountain of vengeance - for additional hits)

[loud reef]

nice

thanks so much boss

[compact tangle]

thus in my trio nodes suggestion, just AR BB BH for 2

and Gen HD for another 2 slots

so that they can be evenly levelled up

and also it looks neat

[loud reef]

Then keep the remaining two enhancement points?

I have 6 matrix points. So 1 point go to each boost node correct?

[compact tangle]

Just throw 5 points to slot 1 and 1 point to slot 3

[loud reef]

Oh ok

And for these do i enhance all?

[compact tangle]

Yes you can just tap enhance all since all the boost nodes are accounted for

[loud reef]

Last question for now. For exalting using equipment, mine is a mythic jaihin wand. So i have to use another mythic jaihin wand to exalt. Does it have to be maxed level?

[compact tangle]

Yes correct need another same item and rank to exhale. It doesn’t need to be levelled up, a lv1 same item and rank will do for exhaling

[loud reef]

Yay got legendary potential on my second try

@compact tangle also do u have a guild i can join? i have been in explorers guild since forever sia

[compact tangle]

you should be in a diff server from me

[loud reef]

im A2S

[compact tangle]

might need to ask for help from others!

i'm A2C

[loud reef]

aw man

[compact tangle]

@civic thunder

[loud reef]

i've been asking but no one respond lol

posted in guild board, posted in general

@compact tangle sorry to disturb again, should i be playing with treasure box to pull stuff? i could get mythic fodders, if not i can sell the rest in ts

[civic thunder]

I only mule guild. Not suitable for mains

[compact tangle]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

personally if you don't mind clocking points or miles on your cards, just go ahead no issues

HAHAHA

since they have the x3 fever chance event now

[loud reef]

im thinking what is the best way to convert my crystals to mesos

haha

[compact tangle]

who knows you might land a MSW

[loud reef]

whats MSW

[compact tangle]

mythic secondary weapon

[loud reef]

fingers crossed hahaha

[civic thunder]

Durian

[loud reef]

😂😂😂

Only we can understand this

kanasai

MSW dont have. get 3 USW

only one ancient eligos bloody gear

Sell all? 😅

[compact tangle]

gg nexon-ed

sorry dude ~

eh!

the blue glided belt with unique pot one

you can work on that belt as your belt replacement project

[loud reef]

is that better than chaos pb belt?

[compact tangle]

if upgraded properly yes

but focus more on the rest first

the helm and the belt can wait

[loud reef]

ok then i hold off for now first

no more mythic jaihin in ts for me to buy already

stuck for awhile

[compact tangle]

if you are still hunting for additional chaos zak helm and chaos pb belt

those equipment with SF can be used as material to alchemize exaltaion stones

[loud reef]

apart from the belt, anything else useful to keep?

[loud reef]

i'll take note of this

but im focusing on horntail and cygnus for now

[compact tangle]

understandable

you can see event shops for the exaltation stones too

[loud reef]

yea im thinking to get the 60% one

[compact tangle]

or unless if you want, find legendary SF eq on trade station to buy and use as material

[compact tangle]

60%?

[loud reef]

exaltation stone

from starlight shop

[compact tangle]

oh starlight

i would rather you use your starlight points on other better stuff

[loud reef]

legendary can use as material to exalt?

i thought must be mythic

[compact tangle]

legendary SF eq can be used to alchemize normal exaltation stones

[loud reef]

so far i used to get a 100% 20sf scroll and a 600m meso ticket

[compact tangle]

in forge

[loud reef]

when u say legendary sf eq what you mean ah

[compact tangle]

legendary rank equipment

with star force values

[loud reef]

how many value

any amount?

any benefit to getting higher sf legendary eq for the alchemy?

sorry i bombard questions haha

[compact tangle]

3no prob

the pictures should answer all your questions

HAHAHA

[loud reef]

the point does it mean success % ?

[compact tangle]

yes correct

[loud reef]

liao gai

gam xia ha mi da

[compact tangle]

so if you want you can just get 2 SF18 legendary eq

to make a 50% stone

if not make a 20SF unique and just rank it up

that one legendary 20SF can make a 50% exhaling stone

[loud reef]

rank up too much resources

better to buy a legendary sf eq from ts right

[compact tangle]

whalecome si mi gua

[compact tangle]

well it depends on your server de TS lol

[loud reef]

what do i do with the ancient hat

[compact tangle]

if SF legendary eq cheap in your TS just buy only lor

[compact tangle]

make 23SF and sell as radiant exalt fodder

[loud reef]

wah 23sf ah

sounds like a lot of mesos

[compact tangle]

Ancient rank eq is used as material to alchemize a Radiant Exhaling Stone

[compact tangle]

anything above lv40 and ancient rank will start to be a lot of mesos

[loud reef]

maybe make it my side side side project later on ba

focus on my own gears first

[compact tangle]

yeap

[loud reef]

i learnt a lot today, thanks bro

[compact tangle]

you have succesfully unlocked the TIL achievement

@cloud phoenix

[loud reef]

What is TIL

[compact tangle]

today I learned

LOL

[loud reef]

LOL

[compact tangle]

I learned TIL 2 days back

from sheepey

today is you learned

paying it forward, noice

[loud reef]

This must be some gen Z abbreviation

[loud reef]

@compact tangle settle bro

teach me refining senpai

knn used a lot of mesos

[loud reef]

@compact tangle also are these worth keeping or sell? ignore the ancient

[compact tangle]

Solid!

[compact tangle]

Refine needs 120 empress red stones

Just do solo chaos Cygnus empress to collect the stones

After refinement to Dragon Tail Wand then can attempt Necro alr!

[loud reef]

wa steady

ok will work on that

thank you senpai!

this one right

[compact tangle]

Correcto!

[loud reef]

gamxia

[kind saffron]

Can any give preset for ab ? Im new lcl 200 , plz

[loud reef]

As in skills to use for ab?
Bahamut
Big bang
Genesis
Heavens door
Fountain

[kind saffron]

Ye bro for ab , no need skills lcl 200? For ab?

[loud reef]

you have the nodes done?

[kind saffron]

I have trios only but not max and V skills lvl 1 xd

[loud reef]

then? lol

the main attack for mobbing is big bang

genesis, heavens door and fountain are all AOE skills to add on

[kind saffron]

Ok thx bro

[compact tangle]

for AB with V Skills, just use peacemaker and angel of balance will do. don't need divine punishment

[loud reef]

one day get so little fire dream stones from cygnus, gonna take a long time before i can refine my wep

[loud reef]

@compact tangle should i use this on my wep?

[compact tangle]

Yes you should

[compact tangle]

Just do 4 exped empress runs daily can alr. Much faster than the past for sure

[loud reef]

btw, i wanna ask why you got me to exalt my wep straight

xylen posted this: "Simplified progression goes free pensalir > rank up to legendary > fuse to mythic > get emblemed versions > rank up to mythic > exalt to 40 > mastercraft to ancient "

seems like we skipped the emblem thing

[compact tangle]

That’s my own preference cause exalting to 40 takes precedence over emblem because if you wanna fuse mythic to get emblemed version is not as easy as it sounds

I’ll personally exalt to 40 for the CD boost.

Pass emblem scroll along the way, even if it is not an ideal emblem, at least my base ATK stat is 30% increased

[loud reef]

understood

[loud reef]

wow successful leh!

[compact tangle]

50% better pass 😂

[loud reef]

i always expect failure haha

[loud reef]

@compact tangle should i replace my epic sw to this unique one

[loud reef]

@compact tangle done whats next

or it doesnt stop here? lol

do i keep refining?

[misty dust]

At lv200, do you only start off with 1 skill node? I only have benediction at the moment.

I only have these boost nodes. Should I aim for bahamut, big bang and angel ray instead?

[loud reef]

Yes

[loud reef]

See pins

[misty dust]

So I shouldn't mix and match?

[loud reef]

4 boost nodes - just choose 4 nodes that will add up to 2x each of angel ray, big bang, bahamut, heavens door, genesis

[misty dust]

Thanks for the advice! This helps a lot.

[loud reef]

you're welcome!

[loud reef]

@compact tangle when u free see above pings pls. also for LSW emblem which one do i go for in TS

[compact tangle]

You can stop refinement as the goal is to craft a Necro wand

[compact tangle]

Just go for CD if can

[loud reef]

so i can go mastercraft necro now?

[compact tangle]

Yeap!

[loud reef]

swee la

[loud reef]

@compact tangle i need to use this right?

@compact tangle like this right? do i need to add a scroll?

i just realised the success rate is only at 4% 💀

is it even worth using a lucky craft scroll?

[compact tangle]

Correcto

Adding scroll of course can increase rate

[compact tangle]

It’s total 8%

4% the orange text is the base rate. The blue colour 4% is from the refinement

[loud reef]

damn this sucks

i failed

[compact tangle]

It’s okay one. Just try again

[loud reef]

LSW if CD emblem but rare option ok?

emblem only lv1 tho

am i able to level up emblem?

[compact tangle]

Yes you can

Max level emblem for LSW is lv4

With secondary weapon emblem shards from chaos elite dungeon

Rare potential is no choice. Slowly up it lor

[loud reef]

@compact tangle this good enough?

any value for me to buy it now?

[loud reef]

@compact tangle @civic thunder SENPAISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

OMG

OMG

OMG

what is this? which do i select?

[compact tangle]

GRATSSSSSSSSS!!

[compact tangle]

Crit DMG!!

[loud reef]

do i add emblem now??

[compact tangle]

you can add anytime alr

[loud reef]

is this the scroll??

wa im so happy leh

i was dreading this mastercraft thing not knowing if i'll ever covert it successfully to necro

[compact tangle]

yeah

[compact tangle]

2nd try?

[loud reef]

yes!

[compact tangle]

swee lahhhhhh

[compact tangle]

need to take note of the star force level

you must use scrolls to enhance no matter what

cause breaking it = you'll need an emblem LSW to restore

i suggest just waiting it out a little more for the LSW

no rush

maybe a better and cheaper one will appear, you'll never know

[loud reef]

okay boss

now i focus on adding an emblem to my necro wand

failed 3 times liao

so stoked man

[compact tangle]

it's like that one

but hey at least you got necro wand alr

that will unlock your abilities to clear a lot a lot of content

[loud reef]

@compact tangle thanks for all your patience and guidance senpai!!

@compact tangle got this. not what i want right?

[compact tangle]

Grats on the emblem

You’d want crit dmg emblem but this is usable for now at least

Better than boss DEF or PHY ATK

Save event coins for the event 100% emblem change scroll

At least your base ATK increased by 30% alr

[loud reef]

ok means no spending from now til then liao. cuz its 12k coins

[compact tangle]

yeap

[loud reef]

so whats next? haha

i've done everything you asked me to do

wep exalted to 40
refined
mastercrafted to necro
emblemmed
got shoulder to mythic

maybe i should take a break from spending lol

broke on real and game money lol

[compact tangle]

this

[compact tangle]

ahh ahhhhhh spending beyond your means is a bad thing

quota for the month reach alr then in this case

focus on your dailies and other tasks alr

[loud reef]

okay but you can still tell me what my next goal should be

i'll do it when im ready

[stark notch]

Nodes 8)

[fair lark]

Congrats!! Also huge pass on the emblem!

[loud reef]

Thanks!! Is "huge pass" a good pass or bad pass? Haha

[compact tangle]

i believe he's referring to an exclamation of "grats on passing emblem"

figure of speech

[compact tangle]

as Haunt said, hunt for nodes to get your V-Matrix up

and level first

[loud reef]

where to hunt for nodes bro

[compact tangle]

Arcane Power Fields

You're lv. 215 now you can go to AF170

[loud reef]

my ap only at 150 now

lemme try and push it up

[compact tangle]

event stores have the meso boost coupons

you can use them if you are short on mesos

since you have necro now, your fair trade should be perpetually on already

you should be able to clear mobs v easily

[loud reef]

yes

[fair lark]

Any emblem is a plus! I have some many necro ready gear that’s boss defense or other non Useful emblems!

[loud reef]

That's good to know

[fair lark]

Of course! Happy to see some growing bishop accounts!!!

[loud reef]

@compact tangle what do i enhance? the first slot max first?

[fading mica]

Oh ye I also would like to know more about bishops v matrix

Saw the pinned message all good now, are they in order left to right, top to bottom?

[compact tangle]

Slots enhance 2nd and 3rd ones to lv5 with the slot enhancement points

Last couple points go to angel of balance

[compact tangle]

From my perspective yes

[loud reef]

what about the 4th boost node slot

[compact tangle]

That one can wait

1-3 got more core skills to prioritise adding levels

[loud reef]

got it

[next stratus]

Hey, how many BA and CD emblems are we supposed to have?

[loud reef]

if im not wrong, as many CD emblems as you can afford

[eager vale]

Hi, Is there any beginner guide i can find for bishop?👀

[loud reef]

not that i know of. but you can post your questions here. those who know will answer you

[compact tangle]

@eager vale you can refer to here

[compact tangle]

@cloud phoenix morningggg, can we?

[compact tangle]

you should be getting to lv100 really quickly and opening most of the core 4th job skills

[cloud phoenix]

Ty my good sir

[compact tangle]

Ty my fellow sheep, mehhhhhhhh

[wanton hound]

Hellooo can I just ask about vmatrix. I know it's has been asked many times but I just wanna check if mine is correct. took me awhile to find the right combi. But unsure if this is correct combi

[loud reef]

your 4th slot looks wrong

maybe @compact tangle can verify

[wanton hound]

I think u r right

[loud reef]

you need to replace that with a bahumut boost node

[wanton hound]

oh no is this still wrong?

do u need a break down of all the nodes?

[loud reef]

your 4 boost nodes must contain 2x of each: angel ray, big bang, heavens door, bahumut, genesis and angelic wrath

not everyone's nodes will look the same

so you need to form them yourself

[wanton hound]

yape I think i got 2 of each just was unsure so wanted someone to check on it for me 😭

[compact tangle]

this is correct

Node 1 - Gen | Door | AR
Node 2 - BB | BH | Door
Node 3 - AR | AW | BH
Node 4 - AW | BB | Gen

you're good to go

[compact tangle]

haha no need for this, we are fellow bishop players so we can tell from the pic

[wanton hound]

Thank you so much!!! took me very long to find the combination with the limited nodes

[compact tangle]

you're welcome!

[misty dust]

Should I give this up and buy a CD emblem unique weapon from the trade station?

I've been thinking of buying this and rebuilding it to necro

Ah I see, in phase 3 here, it says "Must be jaihin weapon" https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/comments/v8aq3w/gear_progression_milestones/ This is Utgard so maybe not then

[loud reef]

Max it > Exalt to lv40 > Max it again > Refine it > Mastercraft to necro.

UNLESS you have the mesos to buy from TS

If you buy a unique one, you have to build from scratch which will also cost a lot

You can buy a necro emblem if its available, but the price comes into question

Are you able to afford it? Is the stats worth the price?

[misty dust]

Thank you! This helps a lot.

[loud reef]

Additionally, you need to make your potential rank unique

Now it’s “rare”

Once you necro it successfully you should make it legendary

[misty dust]

Thanks a lot.

[loud reef]

No problem

[misty dust]

When should I consider buying nodestones from the trade station? Here is my current equipment setup. I currently only have the benediction skill from V Matrix.

[loud reef]

Have you set up your 4 boost nodes?

Benediction is not priority

[misty dust]

I only have two 'perfect' boost nodes

1 Bahamut
1 Door
2 Angel Ray
1 Genesis
1 Angelic Wrath

Should I use my experience nodestones on boost nodes or skill nodes?

[compact tangle]

Just open the experience nodestones and hold on to the enhancement material first. There’s no expiry for those material

[misty dust]

Understood 🙂 Thanks so much.

[loud reef]

Refer to pins if you're unsure. Focus on setting up the 4 boost nodes first

[misty dust]

Nodes are around 3m each on my server. So I could theoretically buy around 300 nodestones from the trade station. Not sure where to spend my mesos on as I just hit SF144 and lv. 211 with 120 AF. Necro seems a bit out of reach being at least 11B on my server. I could buy a clean CRA armor for 400m but not sure if I should. At the moment, I'm just doing elite dungeons to level up my mythic weapon. Where would you spend mesos on?

[loud reef]

I think you should focus on SF first

Save your mesos for enhancements

You need SF160 to unlock Chaos Daily Dungeon, SF170 for Pharaoh’s Treasure and SF175 for Chaos Elite Dungeon

All are important to collect materials to make stuff that are important for your gear progression

[misty dust]

Thanks! This helps a lot.

I'll look at a starforcing guide. Did I make a mistake upgrading my armor to legendary / mythic before SFing? My equips are SF17/18 at the moment but I ranked them up to legendary/mythic so I can't buy replacements very easily if they break.

[loud reef]

17/18 then ranking up to legendary is fine

you'll just need to ensure you use blue and brown scrolls every time you enhance now haha

[tall steeple]

Look at you. You are in a good place to be our next resident CS 😆

[loud reef]

Just giving back 😊

I know how it feels to be lost as a newbie

[tall steeple]

I’m considering to build a new account Lynn.

And then documenting it on YT/TT

But. I’m mindful of my available time lol

[loud reef]

Damn bro. It’s gonna be very time consuming 😅

[tall steeple]

Yeah.More so I don’t have the tools to edit stuff

[loud reef]

Then make another reddit guide with screenshots

[tall steeple]

Rather. People want to watch videos in 5x speed

[misty dust]

Hey Darren, did you manage to find an A2 Scania guild / telegram?

[loud reef]

Nope

[misty dust]

Wow, divine punishment hits so hard. I literally one shot CZak with it lol, used to take me like 5 minutes.

[loud reef]

You feel like god when fighting expedition bosses, until you go chaos hilla

[misty dust]

Hey Darren, do you want to join my guild? We have around 15 check-ins a day but are only lv6 with only lv5 exp buff

[loud reef]

I’m already hooked up, thanks for the invite tho

[misty dust]

No worries, thanks for letting me know

[misty dust]

How do I use divine punishment in Von Leon for the full duration without getting stunned or knocked back?

[thorn yacht]

• benediction
• teleport far and max range
• wait for one of it's animations then use it after
• iframe
• stun (erda or someone else uses a stun)

[loud reef]

what does iframe mean

[thorn yacht]

A skill that grants you invulnerability from all attacks or damage reflect.

Aka you won't die.

Ethereal form - which is obtainable at level 200.

[loud reef]

aka holy magic shell in this case i guess

[thorn yacht]

Not necessarily. It doesn't cover everything.

'Normal attacks' only.

[next stratus]

Hey guys, what do you recommend for hyperstat pages?

[loud reef]

#1059992476770914345 message

[next stratus]

Hyperstats, not hyperskills.

[loud reef]

oh sorry misread

priority always goes to FD

then additional skill dmg

[next stratus]

Huh, interesting. May I ask why? I don't really understand what skill damage is, and ither people have advised me to prioritize magic damage...so I'm curious why the difference.

[tall steeple]

Additional Skill dmg or the very last hyperstat line. It used to be called additional dmg increase. So it’s still affectionately known as ADI

It gives an extra line of dmg.

[next stratus]

Okay, and that's for bossing?

What about training?

[thorn yacht]

Exp/pexp

Then FD/ADI

[spice flax]

What is the best use of experience nodes for bishop? (excluding the ones I can get from regular nodes)

[stuck geode]

I think people save them for Will node (lvl 235)

[spice flax]

Sheesh idk if I’m ever gonna get there haha

[misty dust]

What do I do after SF175?

[loud reef]

That’s a very broad question. But maybe you can start focusing on necro wep?

[misty dust]

Thanks 🙂

[loud reef]

You need a significant boost in attacking. Going necro will give you that.

Apart from that you can also progress your armors further. Gloves and shoes to mythic

[misty dust]

Thanks again 🙂

[shadow walrus]

What skill do you guys have on ur ab skill for mobbing/bossing

Pre hyper

[compact tangle]

check pinned messages

[compact tangle]

bump

[shadow walrus]

There a reason we don’t go RI for bossing?

[compact tangle]

Just keep RI on perpetually

it's a toggle buff

[misty dust]

Might want to add heal being angelic wrath in the pins. Might be common sense for some but I didn't even know how to use Angelic Wrath until I checked all my skill descriptions today.

[loud reef]

Angelic wrath is useless

[misty dust]

oh, I thought it was useful because it's in one of the perfect trinodes

my bad

😂

[misty dust]

My Exp/PExp/ADI/MDC/FD hyper stats are at lv7, should I also add MDI too? (magic damage increase)

[serene plume]

Any guide on passive hyper skills please?

[loud reef]

Holy Magic Shell: Persist + Cooldown Cutter
Holy Symbol-Experience
Advanced Blessing: Bonus Damage + Boss Rush

[serene plume]

Can u send me a picture of your bishop passive hyper skills ?

[loud reef]

I just told you what you should max 😅

[serene plume]

It's just that I don't understand much like that because I play in Spanish, I'm more visual hehe

[loud reef]

No wonder