Shadower

[twin summit]

Gotcha ty guys 🙏

Will do😁

And by just having the skill in my v matrix I get passives right?

Yep I know, just cuz im getting them slowly anyway I was wondering but gotcha ty!

[tulip sedge]

Yeah I would throw whatever you got on v skills right now (exp nodes included) and your bossing trio

[twin summit]

👍 thanks again

[elder pike]

How many emblem Abt BA and CD is the best in shadower class??
Like ba ? Pieces
Cd ? Pieces

[supple ore]

some people go 6cd:2ba, some people go 4:4, I went 4:4 and I'm happy with how my stats are looking but I don't think it matters too much at the end of the day

[vernal vine]

Awesome man should I put it in a preset or just on a separate slot?

[supple ore]

doesn't really matter tbh

[vernal vine]

I appreciate you!

[timid crystal]

How to get this skill? cant find them anywhere

[tulip sedge]

You get that skill at level 235 from will

It’s a red node that he drops

Can also be purchased in TS

[timid crystal]

oh thanks

[snow stone]

Can i ask a question?

Right now i’m thinking of upgrading something. Its either emblem, star force, exalts or pet.

This is where i am and i’m willing to spend 10b on something. Any ideas? 🙏🏼

[sinful cloud]

I would definitely say emblems. But honestly, you’re probably gonna get hit with a bunch of sad faces when you don’t land ba or cd emblems. People don’t usually go get lv40 non emblems necro/absos

[supple ore]

what am I looking at

quite possibly the strangest gear I have ever seen

[sinful cloud]

I mean. He’s still getting 1.3mdc off each of those abso’s. But so much missing stat from emblem

[tulip sedge]

Let’s hope the RNG is good to him

I’ve actually never seen a non emblem abso

[supple ore]

it won't be 😩 he'll hit fodder emblem and then spend the next 3 years or his whole bank account trying to hit CD/BA

[sinful cloud]

One can hope. I love to see other shadowers succeed.

[tulip sedge]

How abundant are emblem change scrolls lol

Especially at 30% is highest correct me if I’m wrong

[supple ore]

not at all abundant

[tulip sedge]

I hope he succeeds too

[sinful cloud]

I see you closing in on that number 5 spot 👀

[tulip sedge]

👀 can’t make it I’m running out of AB

[sinful cloud]

Sad face. I’ll he 12th by the end of the day

[tulip sedge]

Hell yeah love to see it!

[sinful cloud]

Top 10 is the goal. Which should be achievable next week. There’s 3 people at 254 that aren’t actively training

[tulip sedge]

I’m in the process of rerolling my souls

I got 3 magic attack in the process 3 times in a row

[sinful cloud]

Rip

I’m still on the journey to just full 50

[tulip sedge]

You’ll be there soon!

[strange ivy]

the trick is to just play EU and be #1 without any struggle

[sinful cloud]

Itachi always coming in with the knowledge

[tulip sedge]

I just added into darkness on my skill wheel from the advice of @strange ivy

Helps with vhilla like crazzzzyyy

[strange ivy]

me too nub for hilla, but happy it works there too

[forest remnant]

🐐

[forest remnant]

Also the 🐐

[snow stone]

Thank you!

[snow stone]

I’m still working about it 🙁

I wouldnt say all is bad, because i got CD on the first emblem on weapon 😅 right now i’m just waiting for a good belt to sell on market and working on the abso outfit 😅

[noble marlin]

The idea is that if ur gonna whale then go for cd/ba lvl5 pieces rather than clean ones. Now you gotta gamba emblem and you still have to gamba lvling emblems up just for this 'mistake'.

[tulip sedge]

He’s basically saying you’ll spend more resources and time trying to get the right emblem vs if you just bought the equipment with the right emblem already on it and level it that way

[deft spindle]

Choked 1 v3

[lilac wind]

Very nice bro

What mdc to do vhilla?

[tulip sedge]

[tulip sedge]

Can we see battle analysis

[strange ivy]

goat

[deft spindle]

Rn 141m but cleared at 128m

Can prob do better some v4 used when fma

[deft spindle]

https://youtu.be/LA50w21pcW0?si=Oy2_MjKOJe3ank0s

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[old marlin]

Shad Very good for sf map slave post lv 200, monster collection slave pre 200

[sinful cloud]

Shad is trash. Reroll

[supple ore]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-i-will-kill-whisper-i-will-cut-you-gif-20241258

[strange ivy]

yea we trash #buffshad

[forest remnant]

As i always say
Go the better dagger class DB

[broken atlas]

true, im one of them

keep going

[tulip sedge]

What is number 5 doing?

[winter breach]

Any one updated their hyper passives? I have full assassinate, meso crit dmg and meso reinforce.

[sinful cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[winter breach]

#1059991588643811388 message
That's the pin i found that was relevant...its not that clear to (me at least)....

And what i did understand from it i wrote in my message above (full assassinate, meso crit dmg and meso reinforce)...my understanding could be wrong and i should have put those in cruel stab instead...thats why im asking

[brittle basin]

From what I observe, my shad rarely use cruel stab during AB. So I prioritise ME instead

[bitter crescent]

You need very good gears late game to be able to 1-shot mobs with cruel stab (say chaos50 utgard)

And for most people who can afford good ab gears, they will be focusing on bossing outputs anyways

If you don’t do enough dmg to 1-shot mobs with cruel stab, it’s better to just stay with assassinate

[timid crystal]

My tri boost node is maxed, Sonic Blow maxed

What node is next to max in order?

[bitter crescent]

V4

And then V1/V2

[torpid saffron]

I will ping @strange ivy to get an idea after this

[supple ore]

what MDC/HP do y'all think gloom is soloable with?

[tulip sedge]

240k hp and I’d say 40 mil mdc

But seen NL did it with 38 mil

Really if you dodge everything you’ll be fine

[supple ore]

thank you! @tulip sedge

[tulip sedge]

What’s your AF?

[supple ore]

uhh sec lemme check

sorry was running lucid

880 rn

[tulip sedge]

All g

[sinful cloud]

We made it @tulip sedge

[tulip sedge]

Ayyyy! Congrats!

I’m going to stop leveling at 257

[tawdry bridge]

#1 when?

[sinful cloud]

Never lolololol

[tawdry bridge]

Atleast gotta beat the 🐐 @strange ivy

[sinful cloud]

Everyone above me is active active.

And I’m only going to 260 until a new map drops.

I’m not interested in spending 40+ days to go from 260 to 261

[tawdry bridge]

Is it really that bad? 250 to 251 took me less then 4 days

[sinful cloud]

I’m at 400%exp and 177%pexp during Cold time, 22/7. and it’s taking me about 8-9 days for 1 lv

[tawdry bridge]

Oh damn, I'm like 280% exp & 100% pexp so it'll be a struggle for me then lmao

Ty for the info, I'll stop buying ab after 255 then 😂😂

[sinful cloud]

Praying for a new map with 6th job

[tulip sedge]

I’m running out of AB and don’t wanna buy no more so I stop at 257, get to top5 and SS it and don’t look back lmao

[tawdry bridge]

Don't need to pray, there will be

We'll get a new map just like af, which will drop new materials to lvl up hexa skill & hexa stat

We do gotta pray if it'll be good exp however

[tulip sedge]

That’s for 6th job stuff?

[tawdry bridge]

Jupp, sol erda + sol erda fragments is what we'll need to upgrade our 6th job skills & stats with, which will be dropped from newly released maps

[strange ivy]

@forest remnant @dusk ledge da goats

[dusk ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-23944570

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[tulip sedge]

We did it boys, we are top 5

[strange ivy]

no podium, no flex

[tulip sedge]

Haha I’m done leveling

Top 5 was my goal

[deft spindle]

256 here gets you r16 🫠

[strange ivy]

256 in EU gets you #2

[forest remnant]

Your #1 in my eyes

[deft spindle]

Shadowers popping up left and right

[strange ivy]

they all saw the 🐐 devil and wanna copy-cat

[deft spindle]

Trying hard vhilla on monday

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-stream-gif-24669117

[forest remnant]

Streaming hvhilla tn got one tn

[deft spindle]

Don't think I'll be up 3:30am here 😂

[forest remnant]

Its in 7 hours

[deft spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pengu-pudgy-penguin-pudgypenguins-goodnight-gif-17688306853825620671

[strange ivy]

7h ffs, go play by yourself bruh

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[tulip sedge]

Was my main on GMS way back then and my main now on msm

[sinful cloud]

I mained one as well in bera up until demon slayer got released.

[forest remnant]

But db is better

[tulip sedge]

They hella better

[forest remnant]

Yup everyone reroll

[sinful cloud]

But but but my titanium heart

[strange ivy]

who cares, no heart is worth that trash class

[tulip sedge]

I’m rerolling to a kanna

[sinful cloud]

NL here I come

[old marlin]

Is nl and dual blade less played than shadower?

[supple pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-21732737

[lapis summit]

Shadower ftw

Hi everyone, new here , came in to worship the class with yall

[sinful cloud]

It’s trash.

[lapis summit]

If it weren't for the Trickblade I would agree , but it's the best skill in the game xD

[bitter crescent]

#buffshadower

[supple ore]

culprit is lying, shadower goated

one of the top dps currently

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-donald-trump-donald-trump-fake-news-fake-news-gif-3434055107152946442

[supple ore]

https://tenor.com/view/really-oh-now-stare-glare-side-eye-gif-17069038

[sinful cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[forest remnant]

Reason why more ppl go DB over shadower

Shadower is cheeks

[strange ivy]

db nexons favorite child

[strange ivy]

@hot cloak am i right

[hot cloak]

You are right my friend 🥲

[old marlin]

Nah shadower and ho young is better

I only prefer db because it teles to kerning backyard instead of some new korean town

So got lack of emotional nostalgia attachment

[elder pike]

so what is the best shad hyper passive skill?

especially meso expose skill

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/863-project863-b27check-pins-b27-matthias-gif-25299246

[winter breach]

I think it's assin since you upgrade all three of its skills...
Maybe this message and the one below/above will help.
#1059991588643811388 message

[elder pike]

Thx:)

[past wedge]

What otp can i chose!??

[strange ivy]

Doesn’t really matter tbh, id say ACC to give you somewhat of a stat

[supple ore]

why not CR

need 170% for bosses

probably even more for culvert

and scramble

[strange ivy]

im at 193 without anything

[forest remnant]

Fair trade is free now since he has necro dagger

Id also choose ACC

[supple ore]

ye but ur whale

I'm at 164 midgame

if he's just hitting his belt, he's also probably midgame

just my opinion

[forest remnant]

extra 3% overall i dont think will make a big difference

[jovial geyser]

Isnt more crit rate good for countering boss crit res?

[bitter crescent]

That’s why ppl say you need 170% crit

[sand bear]

I’d do exp

[keen badge]

Hello Sdwers, I want to ask about the required mdc and ied to do solo hard vhilla. What is the minimum requirements? Is there any difference in mechanic or sequence?

[strange ivy]

@forest remnant @dusk ledge the 🐐

[dusk ledge]

@strange ivy I have not soloed hard vhilla so I have no idea. Gotta ask @forest remnant the goat

[forest remnant]

@dusk ledge please answer my goat

[dusk ledge]

I'm retired

[forest remnant]

@dusk ledge

hes waiting for an answer

[dusk ledge]

[keen badge]

😢

[deft spindle]

My stats do solo hvhilla left 10%

[keen badge]

nice Thanks boss

[plucky patrol]

New shadower here. Just wanted to confirm that the perfect trio shown here is assaninate, viel and meso explosion?

Couldn't quite see the small one haha

[fair jetty]

yes

[plucky patrol]

Thanks!

[elfin goblet]

i assume this is a bossing wheel, not an ab wheel? Or am I misreading the parent comment?

[elfin goblet]

( @strange ivy )

[strange ivy]

yeah thats bossing

[elfin goblet]

I searched for "ab" and "wheel" and looked through the pins but there doesn't seem to be anything for AB

Could you point me in the right direcinot, please? 🥺

Also skimming Reddit threads, it looks like (a) the most popular threads are from 4–6 years ago, but (b) shad has gotten a pretty significant revamp

[strange ivy]

im basically just using whatever does some kind of AoE for us + Cruel Stab
if you cant 1-2 shot use Assasinate instead

[elfin goblet]

could you share teh presets too please?

[strange ivy]

preset is flare & veil i think

flare, veil & will skill actually

[elfin goblet]

🤔 for all 4 of those?

[strange ivy]

oh you meant my entire presets

uhm yeah 1s

[elfin goblet]

🤔 don't you want to be manually cassting this one?

ahh it's ab nvm

[strange ivy]

i am manually casting it, thats why its on a preset instead of on my pet

[dusk ledge]

Only a pro shadower manually cast it

[strange ivy]

this TK🐐 from NA Ino taught me

[dusk ledge]

i put it on pet

[elfin goblet]

noticed that you aren't using preset 1 or preset 3 here in your AB wheel or in your bossing wheel from above?

ahh bc it's not your bossing wheel

[strange ivy]

[elfin goblet]

i geuss i won't be at a point where i care about the bossing wheel for months though so i'll figure it out later

[strange ivy]

First is for everything with blink instead of dash as option
2nd for Will

[elfin goblet]

first one it is then
seems like i won't be ready to care about will for years at this rate

[plucky patrol]

Quick question from a newbie shadower, what does the trickblade enhance buff do?

[sand bear]

Think you jump to a mob/boss

[torpid saffron]

think you need to ping @strange ivy

[jovial geyser]

Blinks to a target with big dmg

[plucky patrol]

During the moment I press this skill?

I saw the buff still with me so I thought there would be like any additional thing that would happen haha

[strange ivy]

as you can get out of the information from the skill description "TB Enhance" is the bossing version which teleports you behind a certain enemy
it gets triggered by using Assasinate beforehand
Otherwise the Enhance version wont get triggered and you will do the AoE mob version

[plucky patrol]

Oh so for farming wise its better to set it to do AOE?

[strange ivy]

will automatically, but doesnt really matter at mobbing

[plucky patrol]

I see. Got it thanks!

[forest remnant]

Thank you Goat @strange ivy

I didnt know

[thin cosmos]

sup guys, how should i level up my hypers?

do i just use recommended?

been tryna find a guide, started playing lasst week

not 200 yet

[supple ore]

fd > adi > pdi/mdi > mdc > ba

this goes for all classes

MDC higher priority if you're capping

[thin cosmos]

ty!

been hard to commit to playing all day even if on auto play

how do you guys manage?

do i have to do "everything"?

what should i prioritize?

[jovial geyser]

Do you dailies and bossing then auto battle and close the game

Thats it

[jovial geyser]

Don’t do everything all at once

Do one character first once the auto battle runs out then you do the next one

Its auto play so you don’t have to open the game once you finish your dailies

[supple ore]

I spend way too much time on this game a day so I can't comment

[jovial geyser]

Whats your item like?

If im not wrong u started a year ago?

You gotta have some crazy progress with that consistency

[supple ore]

old ss but gear is still the same

[jovial geyser]

Dudeeee

Thats pretty insane

Something i could never have

Also dope fashion

[supple ore]

thanks dude!

[strange ivy]

Whale

[supple ore]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-7422720

[forest remnant]

wow looking OP!

[supple ore]

my pots are what I'm most proud of, but don't wanna send a billion screenshots here lol

[forest remnant]

ill get there one day

[supple ore]

I'll be where you are in the next decade or two

[sinful cloud]

I see a bunch of 🇷

[supple ore]

bpots are for whales

[sinful cloud]

You are a whale bro. Whale of f2p. Nobody dedicated like you

[jovial geyser]

Yeah homie is a grinder

[deft spindle]

How is shadower in clucid 0.0

[forest remnant]

I struggle with hard i cant do chaos

[harsh cobalt]

I think they should nerf shadow veil, it does alot of dmg for a 170hyper+boost node

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/crack-drugs-waterboy-high-coke-gif-10597693

[fair jetty]

#buffshadower

[keen badge]

@harsh cobalt why dont you think the other way around that buff other job skills? :)))

[harsh cobalt]

Everything is welcomed

[sweet prism]

I’m getting into this for the first time.. is there specific items that are classed as ‘bis’ or anywhere that has a guide on that?
Many thanks!

[strange ivy]

@spiral helm
he the guide 🐐

[old marlin]

At least shadower is less ranked than db so we enjoy the class

[thorny axle]

I'm a newbie in maplestory m, help me setup wheels skill and V matrix for moobing and bossing pleaase

[fair jetty]

#1047356086644125796

[thorny axle]

I only see bossing 🙁

[sinful cloud]

My AB wheel

[thorny axle]

can you show me the preset settings ?

[sinful cloud]

No presets on ab. But these are my bossing presets

[thorny axle]

ty so much

[sand bear]

Will shadowers get buff in 6th job

[ashen ingot]

Would it make more sense to invest in V2 or C1/C2 to improve my burst instead?
I know V2 lines are decent, but I generally find myself holding onto V2 during bosses for the iframes instead

[strange ivy]

from my latest Will, should answer your question

and im not even using it every time possible, i keep it for the iframe etc

[sand bear]

Itachi is insane

[strange ivy]

Id wish, me pp

[lilac wind]

This is my set up:

AB:

Bossing:

[torn galleon]

how to properly burst Shadower? ive been struggling with this..

[strange ivy]

ds4 up, common nodes, dark sight
go ratatatata
repeat

[forest remnant]

plz explain

[strange ivy]

aint that basically Assa + ME on roids?

[fair jetty]

Ye isn't mastery 5th job enhancement

[forest remnant]

is pulverize ME on roids? or a complete different skill

[dusty raft]

Should we be adding smoke screen to our rotation now?

[strange ivy]

nah, why bother

[dusty raft]

Doesn’t it give more stacks to our hexa?

[strange ivy]

ah, tbh haven’t read patch yet properly

Gotta summon the goats
@forest remnant @dusk ledge

[dusk ledge]

I'm no where close to the goat @forest remnant

I'm just a peasant now

[steel bronze]

how is shadower feeling after 6th Job? is it good?

[torpid saffron]

typing too many o

It is god

[steel bronze]

wow i want to hear more

[torpid saffron]

it goes from god to Zeus god of the god

[broken atlas]

Yep, you are correct. It will give more stacks to pulverize.

[dusty raft]

Haven’t tested but probably have to add sudden raid to the rotation along with smokescreen

[sinful cloud]

What I found online

[steel bronze]

anyone have a good skill rotation and setup here post 6th Job?

[drowsy reef]

hello fellow shady friends. any idea if we should be prioritizing our Sol Erda on Hexa Skills, or Hexa Stats? for right now at this initial stage. i just came across 2 youtube videos (for PCMS dated a year ago by Duky/ibbhimself) that advise the exact opposite things. welp. or are there any guides with better clarity out there?

[strange ivy]

im curious why v2 before v4

[sinful cloud]

I was curious about that as well. My only assumption is maybe v2 gets used more often in the rotation for the small iframe.

[strange ivy]

Yes it does, but the overall output is still in v4 favor

that’s Will yesterday e.g.
Hi Ben btw

[torpid saffron]

hi

GOAT

[sinful cloud]

Yah it’s not far off. I mean, we don’t have to follow their chart to a T. That’s just what I found online with a quick search. Also curious, what did you change with your bossing wheel to accommodate halve cut? Did you just put it on second page since it had a long cool down?

[strange ivy]

yea, just 2nd page

[tulip sedge]

Unlock your mastery and then spend the rest on hexa stats

[tulip sedge]

Welcome back

[sinful cloud]

Thanks man. Was a good little hiatus. Got a little burnt on the grind

[drowsy reef]

thank you. for avoidance of doubt - what does “mastery” encompass?

[tulip sedge]

Mastery top right

On your hexa

Hexa assasinate

Anyone have the issue where trickbkade doesn’t teleport you behind the enemy?

[sinful cloud]

Not as of last night

[tulip sedge]

Mines only work sometimes

[sinful cloud]

That’s a bit annoying

[turbid veldt]

something the enemy is between frames of invul or phase then might happen

if not 99% of the time works perfectly fine

[strange ivy]

did it start after enhancing Assasinate to the 6th job version?

[forest remnant]

Hows everyone doing their hexa so far

Minus Patrick

How mines looking so far. Not sure if im doing it correctly but im going based off my Battle Analysis and assassinate is hard to hit hard so focusing on assassinate for now

[feral sentinel]

I feel the % of FD/Def is low compared to MDC

For me no brainer to go mdc but for you on the other hand

[dusty raft]

Yes

[forest remnant]

yes could you report that or put in QOL please. i cant post in either

[dusty raft]

I don’t know if it’s a bug. But hexa assassinate doesn’t help to trigger the I frame of trickblade. Trickblade will only trigger when hexa pulverize isn’t up

So effectively from what I noticed, trickblade only works when you hit with normal Assasinate when hexa pulverize is down sadly

[dusty raft]

I’ll post

[forest remnant]

tyty

its a huge skill for our kit and its bugged so making it harder to some content

[dusty raft]

Yeah we miss out on a ton of lines along with the I-frame

[dusty raft]

Just posted it in bug report

[forest remnant]

thank you

[strange ivy]

daf r u doing here, traitor

[forest remnant]

but im capping my 550m cap minus my assassinate and the additional IED not gonna help much when im at 64% ied...

[feral sentinel]

Always lurking my ex-GM

[tulip sedge]

Yeah especially when I’m a bit far from the boss and it doesn’t proc

[dusty raft]

Yep made me eat red thread in vhilla like a buffet

[tulip sedge]

@forest remnant any tips on clearing clucid? I can barely get passed p1 without dying

[strange ivy]

jawn gonna hit you with the "swipe more"

[forest remnant]

send me a recording

ill watch and see what can improve

[forest remnant]

^ works too

[dusk ledge]

Broken

But yeah v2 not charging enough to cast it as a teleport.

Might be bugged until the next small patch

[strange ivy]

having bugged v-skills, shads would never

[frigid hound]

Anyone here built multiple shadower alt for Legion and to more easily solo boss content with minimal equipment requirements compared to other classes?

[tulip sedge]

Did we ever get trickblade fixed lol

[sinful cloud]

I haven’t seen any issues with mine

[tulip sedge]

Have you unlocked hexa asssinate?

If you are procting hexa pulverize/nate your trickblade don’t teleport you behind enemy

[sinful cloud]

Yes. And it seemed to work just fine during Scrambled this weekend. But I’ll have to double check.

[tulip sedge]

Yeah still not working for some of us in bossing

Few people posted in big report and I just posted it also

[forest remnant]

@strange ivy go post it doesnt work, nexon listens to you

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-i-quit-spongebob-movie-squidward-pass-gif-14140714269292708707

[tulip sedge]

do we get a hexa ME?

[hazy shell]

@forest remnant Do you have a AB preset and is the bossing preset still the same

[broken atlas]

Someone can share the skill bonuses of each boost core? The ones on left bottom corner of Hexa matrix that enhances our vskills

[strange ivy]

nvm

[broken atlas]

Itachi, we are getting Hexa ME later on

Pulverize is just an new passive effect on assassinate

[strange ivy]

so its ME on roids

[broken atlas]

No, we will get ME on roids later on

[strange ivy]

[broken atlas]

Its another hexa core

[strange ivy]

so Pulverize is just like an add-on for Assa and ME will be on top of that

[broken atlas]

Yes

[strange ivy]

[broken atlas]

Kinda cool, sadly I feel its bugged right now, coz as you guys noticed, pulverize isnt stacking trick blade marks

[strange ivy]

are we really surprised, that shads are bugged after a big update?

[broken atlas]

Every single big patch

...

[hazy shell]

Can anyone send me their AB and bossing wheel bossing

[sinful cloud]

Scroll up. Mine and someone else’s was just posted a couple weeks ago. It’s not far up

[hazy shell]

Thank you

[forest remnant]

If everyone could report the trickblade bug would maybe expedite getting fixxed

[strange ivy]

pay me

[sinful cloud]

Motivational post - the last week worth of successes

[hazy shell]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-smile-happy-serious-gif-5027230

What’s the ratio for cd/ ba emblems y’all normally run

[sinful cloud]

It’s subjective really. I have 2 ba, the rest are CD, and I’m at 280%BA

[hazy shell]

Is 280%. “Enough”

[sinful cloud]

I imagine it’s plenty. All of my guidies that are similar equipped if not better equipped are all in the 250-300% range. My CD% is lower right now as I’m using a czak helm, and have 3 equips that aren’t max CD emblem yet.

[strange ivy]

we basically have everything thing here, its min-maxing at some point
everythin works

[hazy shell]

Gotcha

[supple ore]

I say 4:4 personally

CD has a soft cap for anything over 450% which is really easy to hit

might as well go more BA

[forest remnant]

A lot of whales here i see

[hazy shell]

What buffs do yall put on auto buffs?

[tulip sedge]

Errrrr thang for me

[strange ivy]

everything except commons

[forest remnant]

I put everything on pets

[tulip sedge]

Yup

[hazy shell]

Whats commons?

[hazy shell]

Yall think this worth?

with CD emblem

[strange ivy]

Nothing
Refined at 30

[hazy shell]

I was trying to buy not sell.. So dont buy em?

[strange ivy]

Nope

Prices r so trash these days, you should get some 40necros for your money
Depends on the server

[hazy shell]

inosys

Also what are the trios I need?

[strange ivy]

@forest remnant bruh, fund lil bro

[strange ivy]

Look at the screenshot

[hazy shell]

I didnt have my glasses on

[sinful cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/sorpresa-gif-17330134416128259640

[hazy shell]

https://tenor.com/view/summit-smash-smash-summit-summit1g-mad-gif-15994846

[forest remnant]

Im scania

[strange ivy]

dis u?

[quasi flare]

@whole spear you can share your bug here and see if other shadowers saw your issue .

[whole spear]

Guys my hexa sonicblow is bugged

I gave it 1 point and activate it but still blocked

When a unequip and equip from the V Matrix it fixes but everytime i log off is bugged again

[forest remnant]

report it

[hazy shell]

Which hyper passives do we get?

So i know if i got the right ones

[sinful cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/satox-check-pins-gif-15132658171494998908

[hazy shell]

read over it mb

Also why do we take ME if its not used

[brittle basin]

It gives same stats to BE as well

[hazy shell]

So im trying to find a skill abbreviated BE but i might be dumb

whats be

also additional function yes or no

[forest remnant]

No

[sand bear]

They meant blood money, toggle it on and ME turns into BE

[hazy shell]

Gotcha. Is blood money supposed to be used at any point or no?

[sand bear]

I keep it on pet to stay toggled on

[hazy shell]

Do you mind if you have time to show me what you have on auto buff? for bossing

or should legit

EVERYTHING be put on auto

[sand bear]

Let me screenshot my pets for U

[hazy shell]

thanks. i wanna make sure im doing this to the best of my ability

[hazy shell]

Oh im not living the black/mpet life just yet

but thank yu

[sand bear]

Can take the 5th job burst buff + explorer one and put on preset

[hazy shell]

I copied someones presets

from a bit up in chat

[hazy shell]

is that pickpocket one on AB?

[sand bear]

Yah 2nd pic

[hazy shell]

So 1st pic is Bossing, 2nd is AB, and 3rd is ?

[sand bear]

Oh it’s the same for me for bossing and ab

Those are 3 pets

[hazy shell]

oh your pet buffs dont change?

other than blood money and pickpocket

@sand bear

[sand bear]

Nothing changes, what’s posted I use for boss and ab

[forest remnant]

This is my bossing preset and wheel

[hazy shell]

How do you have pick pocket and blood money on pet It stopped me lol

[sand bear]

Oo you get rid of dark flare completely?

[forest remnant]

Yes

Check your battle analysis. You barely do any lines/damage

And bosses that move it becomes useless

[hazy shell]

Question so if we arent using meso explosion what triggers the explosions on blood money/pick pocket

[tulip sedge]

Auto when it hits 15

[hazy shell]

gotcha ty. Im new to shad so im learning

[tulip sedge]

RR to dual blade

[hazy shell]

[hazy shell]

Do you have shadow walker on auto buff?

[strange ivy]

Yes

[hazy shell]

Is there any way to alternate between blood money and pickpocket when grinding/going to bosses

cuz when i swap presets they dont turn each other off

[fair jetty]

What does pickpocket do

[supple ore]

just use BE

[glossy quail]

So smokescreen isn't worth using?

[tulip sedge]

Worth it

Gives you 5 stack for hexa assas

[glossy quail]

didnt catch that

[brittle basin]

Do you put smokescreen in your Assa preset or different button?

[tulip sedge]

Let me check

[tulip sedge]

Yes yes

[brittle basin]

Tyty

[tulip sedge]

@forest remnant are you following the skill build culprit posted

[forest remnant]

No

[strange ivy]

[tulip sedge]

Lolll okay

[forest remnant]

Im doing origin first

The 20% ied skill % is huge for harder content atm

[tulip sedge]

Make sense

[hazy shell]

Where do yall have the will skill at?

[hazy shell]

[sinful cloud]

So are you trying to max it immediately? Or do you have a certain level you are trying to get it to?

[tulip sedge]

Level 10 gives 20% IED

[sinful cloud]

Oh snap

[tulip sedge]

Probably working on darknell now huh devil

Your IED +DS4 + 20% from origin is nuts

[brittle basin]

Seems like I have to pause 1s after hexa assassinate to trigger trickblade

Does this method work for everyone?

[forest remnant]

Wonder with todays patch our trick blade gets fixed

[deft spindle]

I should try with my shadower

[forest remnant]

Please test and let us know goat shadower

[fair jetty]

trickblade can block ark crack?

[deft spindle]

I don't think they fixed it

[tulip sedge]

Yup

Yeah it’s not fixed

[forest remnant]

Please everyone go report it again

[hazy shell]

Is this good numbers ?

for FoE?

[deft spindle]

Must get ban like me to get things done 😂

[forest remnant]

what did you say that got you banned

[deft spindle]

Fix your dogwater game

[strange ivy]

reasonable

[finite quail]

Hello fellow shadowers! What’s the current avg killrate each hour in SP30 for ya’ll?

[shrewd timber]

Hi @forest remnant thanks for sharing such useful info!

would like to ask if you mind sharing how do you best utilise your skill wheel during bossing ? I.e. in what order and how do you chain the skills to maximise dmg ?

[forest remnant]

9500 - 10k solo

[forest remnant]

Veil -> will skill -> v4 -> origin -> v3 -> v1 -> v2

[sinful cloud]

This is my current

[shrewd timber]

how is your ab wheel set up sir

[broken atlas]

Same here

[finite quail]

Do you mind sharing your skillwheel setup for ab?
I only kill 8.5k / hour

[hazy shell]

@forest remnant do you have mpets?

[forest remnant]

Yes

[hazy shell]

I wanna get some now but i dont think im at the level to do so

[broken atlas]

Check if your skills are one shooting mobs, specially ME

About drops, drop rate and Mpets make a significant difference

Remember to increase Sacred Power as well, more you have, more damage bonus you get on map

[finite quail]

Yea almost at sp 60 and in one shotting them all.. but might be the totation of abilities.
And got m pets!

Maybe speed is something to increase too

[strange ivy]

^EU #1 shad

[forest remnant]

Just #1 shad

[finite quail]

Haha not sure.. definitely not in levels

With low killrate in sp30

Changed the ab wheel.. let’s see how it goes

[forest remnant]

[hazy shell]

What ratio CD/BA ratio do yall run?

[sand bear]

I do the Wendy’s 4:4

[strange ivy]

bruh finally, was about time

[dusk ledge]

Broken. You're the reason why nexon won't fix trickblade. Even with the bug, shad is broken congrats on the score #1 shad

[keen badge]

they consider it as a new function lol not a bug

[dusk ledge]

Oh

[broken atlas]

@forest remnant did u unlock shadow assault node on VI job? i wanted to know if it give extra stacks like PC

[broken atlas]

eh!? only final damage?

wth

[broken atlas]

all nodes are just final dmg?

damn...

[sinful cloud]

Yep

[broken atlas]

thanks very much, F to us... on PC you could get more 2 charges

[sharp moth]

Any advice on the best way to check whether I am capping my current mdc?

[tulip sedge]

Show me your ark

And/or lotus

[fair jetty]

Does ark / lotus lowers ur max damage

[tulip sedge]

Yes

[dusty raft]

I wonder when the bug will be fixed

[strange ivy]

Last one took em like 1.5years
Good luck

[tulip sedge]

Patch. Nothing about trickblade tho

[broken atlas]

so far i have been able to deal with shadower's bugs, but this one hurts deeply

[deft spindle]

So not used to pressing it and still getting red threaded in hilla 😂

[forest remnant]

IS IT FIXXED NOW?

[broken atlas]

i didnt notice any difference

[deft spindle]

Nope

[shrewd timber]

sorry i’m new to shadower .. i don’t rly uds the skill description and how its supposed to work with assassinate.. i’m not 250 yet

just wondering if anyone is free and willing to share how best to use trickblade wld be much appreciated 🙏🏻

for now i thought trickblade is just about teleporting to the back of the boss to dodge attacks etc..

[tulip sedge]

I think im glitched from all thesevpatches

One week apart, after the patch my Min is super low for some reason

[hazy shell]

Whats the prio of leveling vmatrix skills?

the commons/decents

[sacred kelp]

Echo from Pala gives those low dmg

[lost cargo]

Check if your fair trade is on, seems to me after the big update for unknown reasons my fair trade turned itself off

It wasn’t even hot keyed no way to fat finger

[lost cargo]

Just assassinate once and make sure the animation fully cycles through once (slam down looking action i.e Assassinate - Final Blow) then you will see this icon then you press trick blade you will teleport behind boss and grants you iframe

With new Pulverise (6th) it doesn’t trigger Final Blow so need use assassinate 6x before you can trickblade lol

[shrewd timber]

i see.. thanks! 🙏🏻 i’ll try it out

[tulip sedge]

It’s def on my pet,… this is practice mode

It’s only in the real run

[tulip sedge]

Yeah… but not this low, my pally echo me from last week too lol

[broken atlas]

i went to check if KMSM had the same issue than us and ofc not, all working as should be. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3aH4HD4lym6c74W6zTbuSX5mBxBK34k9?si=T2WJ6U1mOAIfeFl8

[tulip sedge]

@strange ivy did you figure out why your min is super low now?

[strange ivy]

no idea, but tbh i dont care enough anymore about the game to waste my time for this 💩 🕳️ of a company and their lazy a employees who dont even understand their own game which they did proof over and over again

[tulip sedge]

Fook it I quit

[strange ivy]

Devil just scared them, they gotta keep holding us back
as usual

[tulip sedge]

I sent in another bug request in game

[broken atlas]

at this point bug-report channel is just us chatting about our daily lives

[tulip sedge]

All shadowers bug the crap out of them

[deft spindle]

Screw trickblade no dmg

[torpid saffron]

is it no dmg or just no iframe and teleport

[tulip sedge]

No dmg if no teleport 😭

[broken atlas]

No dmg, no iframe, no teleport, only pain

[deft spindle]

No nothing 😂

[sand bear]

[torpid saffron]

the artificial nerf

[sinful cloud]

How’s everyone’s origin skill coming along.

Such a long process

[sand bear]

Still lv1 😦

[sinful cloud]

I’m working on getting to lv7 right now

[forest remnant]

Think Trickblade will ever get fixxed?

[dusk ledge]

Yes, might take 6 months tho

[forest remnant]

Losing out on a chunk of dps and iframe

[dusk ledge]

you're still Hella Op

[forest remnant]

You talking about yourself

[dusk ledge]

[sinful cloud]

Yah having Trickblade for vhilla would be nice 😂

[deft spindle]

I cannot get used to not having it 😂

[sinful cloud]

Yah I’ve been struggle bussing it. But it is what it is

[forest remnant]

Ive been dying out in vhilla

[elder pike]

What’s bug of shadower for now can anyone recap pls , didn’t understand

[strange ivy]

Your a just too lazy to read
It was stated quite accurate

[sinful cloud]

We have only been talking about it for like 2 weeks

[deft spindle]

https://youtu.be/D5_lAnpYGBA?si=Srn1ztXk91k9q91z

[finite quail]

Same! But i finaly managed hard

[sand bear]

Holy

[sinful cloud]

Getting to lv10 is a journey

[tulip sedge]

I been lvling up my hexa pulverized

[sinful cloud]

Mines lv5. But I’m trying to get that extra ied on origin

[tulip sedge]

Mines lvl 6 and now level origin too!

Saw the ascent skill looks dope

Wonder when that will come out

[sinful cloud]

I think that’s coming with the Feb 12th update. But I could be wrong

[hazy shell]

What order do you level up the commons

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[hazy shell]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stan-twitter-leobylaw-2

[dusty raft]

Yay

We getting patched

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/alhamdulillah-khabib-gif-12031143982067202536

[harsh cobalt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/uefa-uel-uefa-europa-league-2021-CAukyJ5esw36CyRllk

[dusk ledge]

@forest remnant gonna be more broken

[harsh cobalt]

smoke screen before?

[dusk ledge]

He doesn't use smoke screen

[broken atlas]

Finally...

[forest remnant]

Now we see if its actually fixed cause writing it and actually fixxing are two different

[fair jetty]

tru , classic nexon might require another mini patch LOL

[chilly phoenix]

Hi I just made a shadower, which skills should I focus on for the vmatrix

[forest remnant]

@strange ivy

[strange ivy]

@dusk ledge

[hazy shell]

[dusk ledge]

@chilly phoenix

Oh wait lmao nvm that's skill order

V3 > V4 > V2 > V1

Just max all of them as soon as possible

[chilly phoenix]

Ahh im dumb what's v3 v4 v2 v1

[dusk ledge]

Your 5th job skills

[sinful cloud]

Buy 3-4k nodes. Max everything. You’ll be good

[chilly phoenix]

Lolol ok

[broken atlas]

all working fine there guys? so far didnt notice any issues til now

[torpid saffron]

Shad claims back the throne already

[deft spindle]

Works good now

[keen badge]

so far it works

[sand bear]

Yes Nexon did a good job

[forest remnant]

crazy we gotta beg and plee to play shad the way NEXON intends for it to be played

[wispy path]

guys i new here can u guys help me on buiding skill for auto battle and boss please

[fair jetty]

Have u tried looking at the pins

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-dance-praise-yas-excited-gif-4279243577824516623

[sinful cloud]

RR dual blader

[steel bronze]

Hi guys, for 6th Job, what do you guys add after getting origin skill and Assassinate enhanced?

[strange ivy]

Hexa mdc

[steel bronze]

Hexa stats? MDC --> IED --> FD ?

[dreamy arch]

is there a hexa skill guide? on what path to level first?

[strange ivy]

the path of full mdc

[torpid saffron]

my suggestion is just get all these unlock for the 10% fd then do hexa stat

[sinful cloud]

This is what was on Reddit but for pc. @dreamy arch

[forest remnant]

Where im at on hexa so far

I am not following pc guide as they get different stats than msm

[strange ivy]

not even maxed yet, kinda disappointing ngl

[dusk ledge]

Damn I didn't even get my origin to lvl 10 yet. What are you gonna level up next?

[forest remnant]

Not 100% sure yet but i think gonna keep leveling origin

[dusk ledge]

[sinful cloud]

Following a similar path. Or at least till my other skills start to fall off in damage

[hazy shell]

with the buff and skill presets has anyone changed up anything?

[tulip sedge]

Took all my buff off my pets

Not all

Just the final dmg one ish

[inner crest]

Hey guys does anyone else have an issue on running out of MP during vhilla?

[forest remnant]

Dont use PE’s for MP slot. Use v8-9

[inner crest]

Why is that? But yah I was using PE for MP slot

Vhilla lets you use MP?

[tulip sedge]

Ya

You should have a bunch if you’re AB a lot

[hazy shell]

Would it be smart to add Assa, toxic, veil,will,shadow form and sudden raid on 1 preset to free up spots on my wheel?

[strange ivy]

no

better than assa is just more assa

[tulip sedge]

I have sudden raid, toxic venom, smoke screen, hexa assa on my preset

[forest remnant]

i have hexa, venom, soul skill

[strange ivy]

Soul skills depends on your soul I’d say

[fierce hull]

Hiyall!!! U guys using decent holy fountain and alchiba, if u do so in what situation?

[forest remnant]

When im about to die

[tulip sedge]

I forget cause it’s on the other side of skillwheel 😜

[lilac wind]

I think just viel and smokescreen enough as that adds to the stack for hexa assassinate right

Adding more makes it slower to cast next assa

[hazy shell]

Should i only be using smokescreen after 250

I'm only at 245 but tera burned

[tulip sedge]

Smoke screen will give you 5 stacks you need to activate hexa pulverize

[hazy shell]

pre 250 It doesnt matter right?

is what im asking

[tulip sedge]

Yeah dont really need it pre 250

[hazy shell]

Any of these I should change

[strange ivy]

I personally don’t like blink and ID together but that’s just my gameplay

some stack v3&v4 together

[fair jetty]

Is it better to put smoke and veil on a preset together with assa? Or separately

[tulip sedge]

My preset, idk if it’s optimal tho

[forest remnant]

I have v3 and v4 seperate
And still dont use flair, and smoke screen

But to each their own whatever works

[tulip sedge]

Listen to the goat he Gucci

[dusk ledge]

You forgot sudden raid

[forest remnant]

Oh forgot, i also dont use sudden raid

[dusk ledge]

[hazy shell]

Why not?

[strange ivy]

More Assa >

[torpid saffron]

MORE AS.S>

[dusty raft]

Actually I’ve tried both with and without sudden raid/smoke screen. There isn’t much of a dps difference

I’d rather keep it simple and follow what d3vil does. Having smoke screen and sudden raid together with Assasinate makes attacks very clunky in the case you might need to evade an attack

[tulip sedge]

Nice let me take out sudden raid

[blissful heron]

yea

[sinful cloud]

I took it all off a while ago when I noticed that the disruption in flow would sometimes get me killed in bosses

[dusk ledge]

Just follow and trust Devil’s wheel and suggestions lol. He's top-shad for a reason. He knows how to maximize dps for shads

[sinful cloud]

I watch his YouTube videos and change my set-up based off what he’s showing in his videos 😂

[dusk ledge]

Lol same. Proud subscriber here

[forest remnant]

[tulip sedge]

Me too lol

[strange ivy]

same 🐐

[torpid saffron]

Me too lol

[tired moon]

Hello everyone, I'm started to play sunday and created Irel to enjoy HB. But i'm thinking in use a shadower as main. There are guide about the class here or i need to check the whole chat?
Other doubt is, is worth start the main now and going to progress in early SF maps just with auto battle or is better wait for a new HB? If the second option there is a possible date for it?

[sinful cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[tired moon]

Oh thanks, I'm newbie with discord functions rsrs

For the second question what do you think about?

[strange ivy]

shad #1 ask the 🐐s
@dusk ledge @forest remnant

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-seixeiro-seixeiro-tim-and-sid-sid-seixeiro-bt-toronto-gif-6431179083175226680

[dusk ledge]

I'm forever number 2

[strange ivy]

Darknell and Chaos Will conquerer, look at these giga chad shads

[dusk ledge]

Look at Devil compared to me. This was clucid last week

[forest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-gotta-snitch-bro-avfn-why-do-you-have-to-tell-on-me-why-are-you-ratting-me-out-why-are-you-snitching-gif-22936612

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/4lions-gif-17089680875914492310

[dusk ledge]

[strange ivy]

look at that duo, smacking the rest left n right

[dusk ledge]

Gotta show how strong Devil is compared to me lol. I'm a peasant compared to Devil now. There's no competition. #1 Shad is Devil by far

[forest remnant]

Taka what matter is

you taught me

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-durant-basketball-gif-5453771

[strange ivy]

same, he earned that 🐐

[forest remnant]

i almost went DB until Taka said otherwise

[dusk ledge]

Now he's teaching me

How to play shad

[strange ivy]

imagine how ahhh you'd be as double toothpick

[tulip sedge]

As long as you’re on top of a dualblade

[dusk ledge]

[faint tendon]

Newbie question: I have noticed that many highly ranked players use Utgard over Jaihin (which seems widely recommended). May I know why?

[strange ivy]

It’s for farming purposes only

Way to go for weapon is still necro -> Abso -> AU

Can u please confirm @runic spade I don’t wanna spread bs again

[faint tendon]

Based on what I understand from this message, it doesn't matter once you upgrade to Necro? So I can just get Mythic either Utgard or Jaihin?
#1059991588643811388 message

[strange ivy]

basically yea

at lv.40 you will refine it anyways to attempt necro

but necro prices so low, tbh just straight up buy a lv.40 one

[faint tendon]

what is the market price for a necro now?

this is selling 13m

[strange ivy]

depends on your server

[dreamy arch]

should i level up the top left, or activate the HEXA stat?

[sand bear]

I unlocked all before working on stat

[dreamy arch]

so unlock all bottom left 4?

[sand bear]

Yeah, and then I did a full page of hexa stat and went back to origin

[strange ivy]

I did full hexa page
Origin lv10
After that either stats or remaining skills, depends on how well u cap

[fierce hull]

What state you took?

[strange ivy]

That version
First hexa for mdc
Awakened pulverize ofc
Origin origin lv.10
Skills afterwards

[fierce hull]

Ahh ok i already opened all skills they made me stronger now state and follow the rest, thenx man

[modest mango]

Anyone know this person preset set up? https://youtu.be/l_PhyT5GWu8?si=QBXEXspaY9rFNrKr

[sinful cloud]

You can literally figure that out within the first 30 seconds of the video just watching the skills the pop up in rotation

[modest mango]

Was hoping someone knows this person and actually has screenshots. That's too much work

Just interesting to see, because I've only ever seen one shad have and use dash regularly

And maybe get some conversation going on shad strategy for harder bosses like clucid

[sinful cloud]

I only use dash for vhilla

[tulip sedge]

Samezies

And to pick up drops 🤣

[faint tendon]

im fairly new and saw from pin about how to level up hyper stat from @strange ivy

Same as every class basically
Mdc, adi, fd, pd, ba

I know FD (Final DMG Increase), PD (Phy DMG Increase) and BA (Boss ATK Increase), but I've no idea about MDC (Max DMG Increase???). Also, should I be following this or theres a new version?

[sand bear]

Can maybe change mdc to crit dmg now, if u go 250+ hexastat give u big mdc

Me, I can’t afford to reset so it is still mdc 😔

[sinful cloud]

MDC is more or less a thing of the past.

[tawny sinew]

Anyone has mana issue when doing Nvhilla?

[lean lion]

Don’t put PE on pet mana.

[tawny sinew]

Oh I thought it wouldn't matter because we can't use potions

Let me try thankss

[forest remnant]

Use v8/9 MP pots

Pe’s dont work but regular pots work for MP

[tawny sinew]

It works omgggg thanks

[lean lion]

Nice! Good luck clearing

[green wraith]

may i know from senpais, if this is still the guideline to follow? is most ppl going for ME or cruel stab?

[dreamy arch]

what should i set it as?

[sand bear]

Hello Carlos, I do mdc, fd and def ignore

God speed my brother I will pray for 10 substat

[strange ivy]

Depends on how good your luck is on the 3 lines
Do the 20/20 and swap around to see which gives u highest
Mdc > fd > ied ratio

[scarlet vine]

hi i'm returning payer, i curious that should i focus on pensalir set or cri damage? weapon and eq

[hollow bobcat]

Hi, would like advice on which skill to unlock first?
(sorry if it’s been asked before)

[strange ivy]

none, you go for Origin lv.10 first
afterwards whatever is not capping

[hollow bobcat]

Halve Cut, the one on the top left?

[strange ivy]

you want the bonus %ied at lv.10

rest of the skills are easy to cap, halve cut takes a bit

[hollow bobcat]

got it, thanks! im so bad at this hahaha 😅

[scarlet vine]

is there v matrix guide for shadower?

[fair jetty]

check pinned

[snow stone]

Sorry for asking this, but i’ve maxed out these hypers. Whats next?

PA, FD, BA, Deal add damage. I still got more points to add but would like to just know on what’s next to up.

[tired moon]

Hello guys, I have a doubt about flip of the coin. If I put it in my pet they use it uninterrupted and eat all MP. There is a way to fix it or i need to use manually?

[tulip sedge]

Buy more mp

[tawny sinew]

How do I tell if I'm capping when doing boss? I see a huge gap between my max and min damage

[hollow inlet]

hi guys - for jewels is physical dmg better than boss dmg?

[strange ivy]

equip pd, go fog, test, see dmg
equip ba & repeat

[strange ivy]

143.46 seems to be your cap in that certain boss lower lines can be stuff like clone etc bla and min dmg lines seem to be way lower since a certain update, idk if they fixed it yet

[grim saffron]

Hey everybody! Just wondering how you all fare in SP while ABing. Particularly in SP20 while solo-ing. Does your ropelift ever deploy, or are you able to reach upper platforms? I find that my character stays on ground level. If anyone has any advice or can share an AB skillwheel that can get me off the ground, I’d greatly appreciate it.

[turbid veldt]

Dont worry about this

Just worry about how many kills you getting per hour

Bc without mpets just dont bother

About rope or w’e

[grim saffron]

Hey! I’m sitting at around 9K/hour and I’ve got MPets so I’m trying to maximize my kills. I think 9K is low compared to some people but I’m not sure if it’s a class vs class thing.

[twilit schooner]

Hi guys, i'm fairly new to MSM but did play MS global til 28X. Looking at how people have much much higher CP, i feel stuck and any more upgrades are gonna be costly. Where do i go from here?

[turbid veldt]

nah 9-10k seems pretty fine but of course gonna see your eq but I think 9-10k is about there.I am ard 7m doing 9-10k as well so you self gauge

[turbid veldt]

not sure how you managed to get a c50 if you are fairly new might be legacy or something but right now just get to 250. game doesnt start until 250 nowadays

pre 250 u probably just gonna stuck at damien for awhile

[twilit schooner]

No not legacy, this char was made in jan

[turbid veldt]

anything more probably need someone to carry

idk how ur c50 came by but yeah

[twilit schooner]

I cant even ark 😅

[turbid veldt]

you mean multi?

dw i having issue if i dont pop buff to solo multi-ark at 6-7m as well so it's all good + i am like 250+

[twilit schooner]

I meant arkarium

[turbid veldt]

yah

you mean solo the single player one or solo the multi one ?

solo mutli ark is harder than solo lotus or solo ndam just saying

[twilit schooner]

I did the treasure box and convert ancients for the exalt

[twilit schooner]

The solo one 🥲

Any tips on speeding to 250?

[turbid veldt]

should have sold the chaos and ancient

for necro/abso

easily better

[turbid veldt]

got no tips

from 230 onwards it usually ard 1%/hr

or slightly less

if you af at the best possible map

so 3-4 days per level

• occasional mag pots and events with xp

might take awhile

i took 5months

to get to 238

previously got the 230-250 1+2 event

literally got to 250+ using that

your eq already

way better than mine

so getting there is just time

[twilit schooner]

Haha in the original ms you could just grind there

[turbid veldt]

if you willing to spend then look for those packages or pulls with the trans potion / mag potion

[twilit schooner]

This one is way too slow

[turbid veldt]

depends can be fast

if you spend

foe

6-7%/hr

if you have decent eq

so 1-2days per lvl

[twilit schooner]

Yea thought abt this but i havent swiped for some time and i missed buying that maple package that just expired. The check in event

[turbid veldt]

and this is at 240+

[turbid veldt]

normally i just

buy all the available

growth packages

• the daily diamond

more than enough

[twilit schooner]

I dont have farming equipment, is that a problem?

[turbid veldt]

and also get the path of proof the lite pass

bro

[twilit schooner]

The exp set

[turbid veldt]

if you see my eq you will laugh

[twilit schooner]

I do/did

[turbid veldt]

what is exp set

[twilit schooner]

Pensalir

[turbid veldt]

i know

i mean what is exp set no one got time for that

now at 250+ everyone going for drop rate set

2026 no one doing xp set already

[twilit schooner]

Hahaha. I saw like outdated guides on yt telling me to build that

Man its expensive enough to have one proper set

[turbid veldt]

dw

eq doesnt matter

it only matters for bossing

non bossing trust me

dont matter at all

i show you my farming gear

at 250+

bossing gear

trust me when i say gear doesnt matter

if you not aiming to do mid game bosses like gloom+

dont even need gear lo i literally doing it with close to nth. dont ask me why i not necro yet failed 29x already so I am hell bent on making this necro.

all my gear is drop rate soul other than my weapon

dont even have 2 set of gear

i used to use my xp weapon till spf couldnt keep up with dmg so just drop the weapon as well

[strange ivy]

wild build

[twilit schooner]

I guess i just gotta level up for now

Haha

Thanks bro

[prisma ruin]

can anyone share their AB skill wheels

[fair jetty]

check pinned

[finite quail]

New weapon unlocked for my shadower!

[forest remnant]

WOW CARRY ME

[strange ivy]

carry me first

[sand bear]

@supple ore

Mind if I dm you for some shadower advice ?

[sinful cloud]

You can dm him a pic of DN 😂

[tawny sinew]

Anyone know multi vhilla if I do solo, what would the HP be compared to solo?

[broken atlas]

around 2.5 times more

solo is usually 9-10% of the multi hp

multi with 1 or 2 people will be 25% of total hp

[tawny sinew]

Thanks!

[next tendon]

will shadower outdamage db ? both have same equip scenarios

[strange ivy]

DB #1 dps by far we stand no chance

||we kick their ahh, but dont tell anybody ||

[next tendon]

Im confused how come my shadower killed HZAK faster than the my DB >_<

my DB's stats way look better than my Shadower too

[bronze badge]

Is shadower the best thief now?

[next tendon]

Im still rooting between Shadower = DB = Pally

[sinful cloud]

Pally boring af.

[mystic zinc]

Shadower vs DB has been the longest fued hahaha

[sand bear]

Shadower still the weaker of the two

[tulip sedge]

Forever hating on a db every chance I get

@royal ember

[bronze badge]

rly? db main say shad is better 🤣

[strange ivy]

They all lying bc the don’t want the truth to spread

[next tendon]

hypocracy

[paper ether]

.

[tulip sedge]

lol

[mystic zinc]

DB is much more tanky definately

[sand bear]

Tanky and stronger for sure

[twilit schooner]

Is crit atk or boss atk increase better as an option on absolab ?

[strange ivy]

Crit

[heavy stirrup]

Anyone can share hyper passives please

[jovial geyser]

check pinned

[heavy stirrup]

Could not find it.

[jovial geyser]

Scroll down

Second last

He should edit that msg

[strange ivy]

If that’s too hard to figure out alr, maybe Pinball is the way to go

[forest remnant]

ask @strange ivy your questions #1 shad now

[strange ivy]

id like to forward this to my secretary the #1 global shad @forest remnant

[fair jetty]

There's only 7 pinned post wdym u can't find

[forest remnant]

I have left shadower behind

https://tenor.com/view/master-oogway-you-must-continue-your-journey-without-me-lucid-gif-17927968741343444408

[dusk ledge]

whatchu mean.. you're coming back

[forest remnant]

Do you see my ign

It never will happen

[dusk ledge]

it will happen

I believe

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-gif-726175940632866198

[dusk ledge]

We will also probably get something for a higher chance for the main 10

In the future

[strange ivy]

the two goats talking to each other

[dusk ledge]