Hero

[burnt zealot]

ok

[warm iron]

ngl, i find it easier to solo damien than lotus

LOL

[burnt zealot]

whattt

ok anyways i look forward to your video!

im not too sure what to dodge apart from his dash

and his dive

[warm iron]

the sword, fireball and the brand (i reset it using the altar once it reach 4/7 or 5/7)

[vapid marlin]

This, regardless the class should be enough for ndamien solo, get ds4 and full buff
140k HP is also enough but you actually need to dodge stuff

Please do, also if you could share overall stats (crit damage &boss) and if you got footage of lotus would be nice

[burnt zealot]

I was wondering what kind of flames should we go for our weapon and secondary

Is FD flame worth? Rn I have atk flames worth around 850 atk

[burnt osprey]

Idk if FD is worth for hero since we have a lot innate

Others can chime in though but that’s my opinion if you already cap you don’t need

[warm iron]

single mythic atk flame?

[burnt zealot]

Nah I got 2 legend flames scale to hp and BA

But I’m using inherit armour atm

[warm iron]

so 2 atk flame = 850?

[burnt zealot]

Yea

[warm iron]

If we're comparing 2 ATK flames with 2 FD flames, the FD flames are definitely better. however, the difference is quite subtle.

for me, i would just keep the atk flame

[burnt zealot]

Ok

[vapid marlin]

I'm on a different class, but I swapped my 560+460 m.att flames to 480+3%FD and it feels better . If it makes sense, the more atk you got the more value FD has. I got 42k (new flames made me lose like 4k att 🥴)

[olive steppe]

Question for my fellow hero mains, should we be using this skill at all since it’s a total of 350% (added 125% from raging blow) the lines aren’t too bad either. Didn’t really notice it till now cuz I was like why would this skill need more dmg if I’m not gonna use it lol

[tender shard]

It has a 5 seconds cooldown so no I don't use it. It's cool but only good for mobbing periodically but I much rather have shout back I loved that move. Maybe if it were spammable but it's just taking up space on wheel imo

[warm iron]

beam blade ain't useful at all even for mobbing imo

[olive steppe]

Thanks for the info

[warm iron]

i only had charge, sword illusion, rising rage, worldreaver, raging blow and flash blade

[tender shard]

It has our best horizontal range, it needs like a debuff probably slow maybe turn it into panic an ice blade beam for utility purposes

[warm iron]

but the range not really that far. it has only 5 lines. That's why i didnt bother to use it

[tender shard]

They took pally elements I wish they gave it to us

[warm iron]

unless you can one shot using it then its fine

[tender shard]

I know it's very rare case I'll use it

[warm iron]

but im using pen set on af380 so i cannot one shot with it

[tender shard]

For just mobbing it works if it isn't arcane

[warm iron]

yeah pre 200 would be good

otherwise i would just stick with raging blow

[burnt zealot]

What’s the minimum cd on our iframe

[tender shard]

If it goes by 2 seconds per 5 levels 30 seconds max level 20

[burnt zealot]

Oh ok

Ty

[warm iron]

hdam way harder than ndam lol

[burnt zealot]

Hahaha

[warm iron]

I made a lot of mistakes during my run. but barely managed to beat it

[vocal patio]

Any Hero’s that knows boss skill rotation please let me know! I feel like I am lacking something or forgetting something that is really lowering my DPS. 400%CD and 100%BA

Training fog boss lvl 200 def 40.

Here are my results

I don’t know if I’m just blowing my buffs or need to stagger them in order to maintain my damage. Average damage needs help.

[warm iron]

i'll try fog after HT to see if there's any differences from your result

[vocal patio]

That would be awesome, I ran unbuffed as well. Like you I’m also running HDamien

So our stats should be the sameeee? Hah

[warm iron]

not sure if its the same haha. but my v1, v2 and v4 not maxed yet

[vocal patio]

Ah ok, not a problem. Just really need to fix my skill rotations. I think that could be my problem. Also, I haven’t been using my lvl 170 skill for the longest time. Don’t know if I should incorporate it again. I feel like it’ll be a lose of damage if I do.

[random skiff]

U shouldn’t. The animation is too long.

[vocal patio]

That’s what I thought

Oh hi

Why you stalking me

[random skiff]

I’m everywhere

I see everything

[vocal patio]

[warm iron]

i dont use rising rage during bossing. only for mobbing

[vocal patio]

Cool, same.

@warm iron this is what I’m working with.

The last three nodes I swap out, so you can ignore those.

While I boss*

[warm iron]

This is mine haha

[vocal patio]

Hey you’re getting there. 💪🏻

[warm iron]

v4 still far from maxing haha

[vocal patio]

I just maxed mine this morning. Nodes are cheap right now and thought it was a steal. So just leveled it 5 more times.

[warm iron]

My preset. Except for preset 3

[vocal patio]

Ok, pretty similar.

[vocal patio]

Yeah, so for your preset 1. I was thinking of separating the two buff after one goes off. I’ll redo the training fog and see if there’s any difference in 2 minutes.

I’ll do that now actually

[warm iron]

you playing on mobile or pc

[vocal patio]

Mobile

Spread my buffs 1st round

Went full buff everything.

I think it doesn’t really matter and more of a headache spreading your buffs.

[warm iron]

haha

your first run was better

[vocal patio]

Yeah, I hit the boss 2 sec later. Haha

[burnt zealot]

I use my blessing after instinctual combo cuz I’m capping during that burst but I can’t cap on my off burst

But I kinda forget sometimes while bossing so I end up having blessing unused hahaha

My raging blow doesn’t hit that hard tho

Maybe I’m doing something wrong

[vocal patio]

I’ll test this out.

[warm iron]

how did you set your skill wheel and preset

[burnt zealot]

I share in 4 hours I’m on a flight rn

Oh I got a BA vid

I zoned out in the video so ignore the fact that I didn’t use my v4 and

[warm iron]

This is mine for 1min

[burnt zealot]

Oh my cry vahalla is weaker

How do I do more on cry vahalla over BSB

My boost nodes

Oh maybe I just need more stats cuz I’m not capping

[warm iron]

Yours is about the same as mine

[burnt zealot]

How much hp do I need for Hdam solo

[slim harness]

hi guys i am new to maplestory m and i just started sf 144 and kind of lost at the moment. what is the next step for me? Any suggestion will be appreciated. : )

[warm iron]

Create multiple alts for link skill and legion. keep doing events to exchange stuff like nodestone and weapon emblem scroll. slowly get your SF up.

try reach SF144 on your farming alts like Sia or shadower to farm mesos outside hot time.

[tender shard]

Easier ways to get stronger is to get a mythic jahlin weapon/mythic armor, improved secondary and utilize flames scaling with hp or exp for stats

[warm iron]

I wouldn’t recommend switching to Jaihin right away, as he already have SF19 Legend weapon. If possible, focus on saving up mesos and prioritize upgrading your armor first to improve survivability, since Heroes have high damage. While also keeping an eye out for a Jaihin mythic weapon with SF17 or higher in the market.

I remember i had mythic emblem weapon with legend armor in sf180 and still dying. so having armor upgraded first would be better for leveling. bossing would be the least priority especially for starters

[slim harness]

oh sadly i used up all my slots for resistance chara and mercedes for exp link. Just waiting for new class to be released. Heard every new class release, they will give one slot free? So i am thinking of getting blaster as alt to farm since the class has more hp than rest of them(Battle mage, Mechanism and Hunter)

[slim harness]

when do i need to worry about pots and the pot lines?

[slim harness]

I was thinking of making that legendary weapon to 20 sf and use the (legendary rank up stones) which i got from the event. So should i just hold off on that and just focus on my armor like making all of them to legendary and max lvl 20? That way i have more survivability right? How much am I suppose to look out for the mythic emblem weapon? I have no idea how it normally cost.

Thanks for responding guys. Now i have some directions on what to do and where to go~

[warm iron]

if you can get another sf18 jaihin weapon, unique or legend, would be better to save the rank up stone for it instead of using on your current weapon. Do not buy the unique rank up stone from event shop as it is not worth it. slowly earn gold leaf and use gold leaf to buy the unique rank up stone. if you're able to survive in your current SF, shouldn't be an issue to survive. Only when you have leveled up to 200, you will be going arcane force to farm which you will definitely need a better armor hence why I suggest getting armor over weapon. SF17 mythic jaihin weapon iirc is estimated at around 300-400m?

[warm iron]

if your pot is not unique, dont bother about it so much yet.

[warm iron]

Yes. every new class release, they will give one free character slot. Blaster is a decent choice for alt. It is fine to use up your slots for exp link.

[slim harness]

Thank you sir. I will be back more question next time.

[tender shard]

If you get red cubes you can mess with potentials whenever but ideally you'd want to on gear you'd keep meaning 3 lined emblemed pieces. Best places to get are daily guild attendance and monster collection. Cubes have a chance of ranking up potential I think even the normal cubes can get to unique potential you'd need a scroll to get to legendary from elites

[warm iron]

if the normal cube you're talking about is the purple/occult cube then no, you cannot get to unique.

[tender shard]

I believe I've seen it happen

I know it says that but I've seen flex of it getting unique with occult

[warm iron]

hmmm

because I've used this cube multiple time before

it didnt went to unique

i believe i had used at least 700k cube of it

on one item and didnt get it

[tender shard]

I've always used scrolls just saying I've seen others do it saving abunch of occult pieces on multiple alts

[warm iron]

same. I'd just using scroll to unique except for my training gear

thats why my training gear has been epic all along

maybe it's possible to go unique with occult cube, but has a very low rate

[tender shard]

Of course it is likely 1% or lower

[warm iron]

oh nvm it can go unique

managed to get one of my gear to unique

[tender shard]

Lol gz

[warm iron]

thanks haha

[lofty fractal]

which v skill should i be maxing first? burnng soul blade / instinctual combo?

[tender shard]

I would say Instinctual then soul blade first then either worldweaver if you want faster iframe burst or sword illusion for a better burst than worldweaver but 10 seconds longer cd

[lofty fractal]

Actually, how much priority should be given to puncture boost node? im done with the perfect trio. so actually looking to start maxing v skills first before starting on puncture boost node.

[ionic hearth]

We use mostly valhala/ raging and final; puncture (post the fair trade change) hardly used since the crit res reduce not as felt. Go for V skills, I feel.

[tender shard]

I feel like puncture is important, It does about the same damage as final attack through tick damage if you land it consistently

This is normal Damien last week

[warm iron]

I wouldn't say puncture is important. even I don't used it in my bossing often and it waste one of your node slot.

[burnt osprey]

Puncture is free dmg for when vskills are on cd. Why won’t you use it?

[warm iron]

you still have raging blow though

[burnt osprey]

Yes but puncture causes dmg over time. Press once and continue on w/ rb

It’s up to you to decide if it’s important or not but most hero’s I know uses it

[warm iron]

I believe getting a puncture boost primarily depends on whether you're capping your damage.

[ionic hearth]

Circumstantial perhaps - maybe test it in training ground and see if dps is higher with our without.

[burnt zealot]

I mean if ur low level maybe don’t add it in yet too

Cuz u need the slots

Only when ur high enough you should think about it

It’s just some additional dps but nothing too crazy that’s it’s gonna be a game changer right?

[wintry kayak]

Better to just get it right away so you don't have to worry about shuffling around boost nodes later imo

You can get it by just using 1 extra boost node this way

[burnt osprey]

exactly

[tulip mirage]

Is this still meta?

[vocal patio]

If you look at the other skills, doesn’t make any sense to choose those over these 5.

[fresh junco]

This is my current bossing vmatrix set up. Any tips? I feel like I’m wasting slots on trios…

[wintry kayak]

You very much are

[fresh junco]

Maybe get rid of puncture and rising rage?

[wintry kayak]

Get 3 trios that in total have
Raging blow X2
Puncture X2
Cry Valhalla X2
Final attack X2
Rising rage X1 (optional)

Put those in boosted slots and you're done

[fresh junco]

Thanks going to try and figure this out lol

So in other words three trios should have all those skills you listed maxed if done correctly? (Which would alllow me to free up 2 slots)

[burnt zealot]

fix ur boost nodes
at max have 4 only
which leaves room for 1 and u can have the Impentrable skin so u get more HP and PDI or DS4

Or
use 2 bossing nodes which are
raging blow
cry valhalla
final attack
and have room for
DS4, Impentrable skin, and ur **V4 (pls dont lose on free damage) **

[wintry kayak]

Yes

[fresh junco]

Appreciate it yall. I think I’m on the right track. I’m trying to open up nodes to replace the one in the photo. Once I open a perfect trio of raging blow, PUNCTURE, and final attack I should be good

[slim harness]

1st trio is raging blow, cry, final attack
2nd trio is cry, raging blow , final attack
3rd trio blade beam, puncture, rising rage
4th puncture rising rage, blade beam
something like this for perfect trios?

[tender shard]

I don't like blade beam much, I preferred shout before remaster I went with charge

[brittle lichen]

Can he survive at sf 168 with legendary equipment?

[tawny patio]

Hi guyss

Can anyone help to suggest Hyper Skill and Trio build for me

[warm iron]

checked pinned message

[sharp cipher]

If I have an alt hero, is the phy dmg on Final attack useful

This only applies to final attack, or overall phy dmg?

[warm iron]

phy dmg is decent but other passive is better

[sharp cipher]

But does it give overall phy dmg or just for the final attack skill?

Because as an alt I guess overall phy dmg would work better for my purposes

Can’t believe I zoomed from 125-179 in a single day

[warm iron]

final attack skill

[warm iron]

nah not worth it

[sharp cipher]

Yeah that’s trash then lmao

[tulip mirage]

Any hyperstat recommendations?

[warm iron]

FD > ADI > MDC/Phy Dmg. Phy dmg before MDC if you cannot hit cap.

[tulip mirage]

Thanks! I thought hero's base FD is really high due to skills. So does adding PD instead of FD makes sense?

[warm iron]

Not really. FD is still better regardless of it's high base Fd

You can try using the damage calculator

[tulip mirage]

Ok thanks alot!

[tawny patio]

Do we use beam blade, puncture and rising rage during bossing ?

[ionic hearth]

Most use just raging blade and puncture, I think. Definitely not beam blade.

Rising animation is too long

[tawny patio]

thank youu

[icy tulip]

can anyone tell me which vskill to max out in order for hero? please and thank you

[burnt zealot]

Instinctual Combo > Burning Soul Blade > Worldreaver > Sword Illusion

[tawny patio]

Guys for 3 warrior v skills which one can be deprioritized ?

[tender shard]

It would be Blitz Shield it just doesn't do much only a 50k hp boost for 5 seconds

[tulip mirage]

Hi all, I just got to level 200. It's my first level 200 too. Any advice on what I should do first?

I've completed the arcane symbol quest but not the one for the arcane river dungeon yet.

Also I have some exp boost nodestones from events. And I've used the event nodestones alr. What is the perfect trio nodes for heroes. And what should I upgrade first.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks all!

[tawny patio]

Nothing specific on daily things u will need to do differently by class. But u better understand node system to

1. Get the perfect node (it will last long)
2. Get the option while finding perfect

[tulip mirage]

What does 2 mean?

This are the perfect trios?

[tulip mirage]

Which V skill should I upgrade first with exp nodes?

[tulip mirage]

I noticed rising rage is not a part of the nodes is that on purpose?

[tepid minnow]

To long cast animation you don’t use it really

[tulip mirage]

Oh got it. I got two RB/FA/CV nodes that's the perfect trio right?

[tepid minnow]

Ya

[tawny patio]

Get the optional node if u did not find perfect yet.

U can level up it and use it to level up the perfect one later

[tulip mirage]

Sorry what is the optional node? I don't think there's a solely puncture node so I'm not sure. Thanks for the help!

[tawny patio]

In case u cant find 3/3 yet

For example if u r looking for War Cry / FA and RB but u can only find RB and FA with another skill u can also use it

Do u guys use magic crash during boss ?

[tulip mirage]

Yes sometimes.

What V skill should I focus on upgrading first?

[solid fiber]

what is the emblem ratio for hero?

[tawny patio]

Mine is V4>3>2

But it's easier if u max it all together even using green node

[weak thicket]

How good is Hero as a low fund bole mule? Up until NMag/HMag?

[burnt zealot]

U should make boss mule able to fight at least till lotus cuz of the path of proof

All I will say is it is easy for hero to cap (idk about now with the ceiling being raised) but it’s not hard to high damage lines esp when bossing

It’s a matter of how fast you wanna be clearing the boss. I nearly cleared lotus with an inherit 40 jaihin CD sword but if I was playing the char now I prob would have cleared with I40

[weak thicket]

thanks for the info

[jovial tusk]

This is the trio?

[burnt zealot]

yes

[jovial tusk]

Amazing only use 4 nodes jaja

[lofty fractal]

Do yall macro puncture with raging blow when bossing? i feel like the cast animation of puncture makes you lose quite a bit of dps, especially when you are on instinctual combo.

[burnt zealot]

i dont but ive seen some whales macro it

[tender shard]

I don't feel like I lose dps I've always used it normally. I always use before popping instinctual and at the 15th second of it since the dot last 15 to not lose its lines

[plain flint]

Hello guys! Can somebody please show me a useful pre and post 200 skill wheel for AB and for bossing? I'd really appreciate it.

[warm iron]

not much skill wheel for hero.
For pre 200 AB - raging blow, rising rage, puncture, flash blade and charge
Pre 200 Bossing - just remove flash blade and rising rage.

For post 200 AB - just add sword illusion and worldreaver
post 200 bossing - add all 5th job skill LOL

[vague heart]

hi need advice in my hero matrix

is it okay so far or do i need to change anything?

[warm iron]

put your trio in +5 slot enhancement. replace with sword illusion and worldreaver

[vague heart]

do i overput my trio?

like the total lvl already 50+ i believe

[warm iron]

If possible, make it to 60 (with the trios at lvl5 slot enhancement)

[quiet silo]

Hi

Can anyone share the burst rotation ?

Also for perfect trio we need 3 or 4 ?

[warm iron]

for boost node, if you're going for puncture as well, just need 3.

[warm iron]

not too sure which burst rotation are right, but im using sword illusion > world reaver > puncture > IC > spam raging blow

[quiet silo]

Thank you

Seems that hero chat are quite dead haha

[burnt zealot]

i do buffs > Puncture > sword illusion > IC > World reaver

i have sword illusion and IC in 1 preset

but i dont rly minmax much tbh i just sit still n wack the boss and use iframe for damage or to dodge hits nothing too craz

[quiet silo]

Sword illusion for the FD buff ?

You don’t use Sword illusion for burst ? Or use it when it is off cooldown ?

I saw that most of the burst are in same 2min cd , is it good if I use preset them all together ? What about cry vahalla?

[burnt zealot]

I use it off cd

I use according to that then once IC ends I turn on maple blessings for more damage while my other buffs r still up

No links but I’m generally capping without buff I just buff for bosses lotus n above to do more damage off burst

[quiet silo]

So your buff is between IC and maple blessings? IC buff ends then use maple blessings after blessing end use IC ?

[burnt zealot]

The 5% FD buff is always on cuz it’s on a pet but the one that gives FD + BA I use that after IC

Cuz I’m alr capping while I have IC on

[quiet silo]

I see , but for me I m not capping I just on all buff at the same time ?

[quiet silo]

The 5% FD buff you mention is the maple blessings right ?

[burnt zealot]

This is the 5% buff that is always up

This is the buff I use after IC but if ur not capping while u have IC on then just use this

Cuz IC has a lot of lines

[quiet silo]

Just wondering , why you didn’t preset your puncture and rb together ? Since we use it everytime puncture off cd, is it because you already capped ?

[burnt zealot]

Hmm I don’t have puncture in a boost node

Also I don’t like the slow animation

It’s just a preference

[quiet silo]

I see but puncture give us FD buff right ?

[burnt zealot]

I got no clue HAHAH wait let me check

[quiet silo]

Chance attack passive

I think is 3rd job passive

[burnt zealot]

That procs with ur raging blow alr

[quiet silo]

May I know why your IC and illusion sword preset tighter ?

[burnt zealot]

No need to use puncture

[quiet silo]

But I thought puncture give cut debuff

[burnt zealot]

Just simple

Puncture give us 10% CD I think with the debuff

Oh it does give FD buff

Well I don’t rly need it while bursting

Yea I don’t rly min max too much hahah

I just buff n press raging blow in ark and tank everything while my pt hits

[quiet silo]

Hahaha

Basically I just on all buff still ok right ?

Doesn’t have to on the buff in sequence right ?

[burnt zealot]

No need

[quiet silo]

Ok got it

[burnt zealot]

Everything is 1 min except ur BSB

[quiet silo]

May I have look on your matrix ?

[burnt zealot]

So if u want u can buff BSB first

[quiet silo]

Bsb?

[burnt zealot]

The pink sword

[quiet silo]

Ohh the burning sword ?

I use 3 trio

[burnt zealot]

I have erda bind cuz I haven’t been doing dailies

[quiet silo]

Eat me 1 slot

[burnt zealot]

I would but when I started I didn’t have a slot

It will be fixed when I’m higher level and when slot expansion doesn’t cost me 1b hahah

[quiet silo]

Your cry vahalla put into pet ?

[burnt zealot]

But rn I’m not aiming to min max

[burnt zealot]

Nope

I don’t like using burst on pet

[quiet silo]

All your buff are munually ?

[burnt zealot]

Pets only have the basic buffs

[burnt zealot]

Yes

[quiet silo]

Same when bossing

[burnt zealot]

Sometimes I just don’t burst cuz

[quiet silo]

So our main burst is IC

[burnt zealot]

Damien isn’t in the right position

[burnt zealot]

Yup

Play around it

[quiet silo]

Understood

Which warrior vskill I should get first ?

Like those hyper body etc

[burnt zealot]

Impenetrable skin

Max that

It gives HP% PDI%

[quiet silo]

Ok I got that with me now

Maple blessings ? Is it important ?

[burnt zealot]

Damage: impenetrable skin >maple goddess blessinng > weapon aura > Decent sharp eye ( if u need cr )

Maple blessings is very good

[quiet silo]

I got fair trade , so no need sharp eye right ?

[quiet silo]

Got it

[burnt zealot]

No need

I have a DW alt and this is what I use on it

It’s just funneling all into damage

[burnt zealot]

So I have a very good burst can solo burst ark and that’s all I need cuz I just want to see bosses melt

[quiet silo]

This is mine

[burnt zealot]

Yea can replace rope lift with maple goddess if ur not capping

[quiet silo]

Ok

[burnt zealot]

If ur capping then u can grab hyper body tbh

[quiet silo]

Hero can’t cap alone by buff right ?

[burnt zealot]

More hp means u can tank more

[burnt zealot]

I’m capping without buff

[quiet silo]

What’s your equipment like ?

[quiet silo]

Damn 😂

[burnt zealot]

These are my items and stats

[quiet silo]

These are mine

How you get so high stats lol

[burnt zealot]

Ur stat page gotta scroll down to the IED part

For starters ur items aren’t fully built like u dont have full emblem but that’s jsut a piece of the pie

There’s Link skills, legion blocks then the class blocks that give CD BA , hyper stats

[quiet silo]

Sorry I send wrong equip

[burnt zealot]

I still need u to scroll down more haha

To see the full atk page

[quiet silo]

Sec

Maybe I don’t have any hyper stats yet

[burnt zealot]

Do you have M label

[quiet silo]

No

[burnt zealot]

It’s good to buy M label

So if ur whaling

U can buy 3 set eternal ( must have gloves) and 3 set m label

Do u get the 3 set M label effect twice

[quiet silo]

Oh I didn’t knew about that

Eternal is normal royal style ?

[burnt zealot]

It’s this item set

And u mix with this

Cuz the normal M label doesn’t have gloves

So if u get 3 | 3 set u can get 20% BA and 10% PDI

I’m not a big whale so I don’t plan to buy it haha

I was using a I40 before my necro which is also why my CR is very high

[quiet silo]

I see

Guess I’ll do this last lol

Quite costly

What jewel are you using ? I m using blue

[burnt zealot]

I’m using purple

I think more end game players use purple

[quiet silo]

Ahhh I see

Purple it is

[burnt zealot]

Might as well build towards it since the rates are terrible

[quiet silo]

Which rate ?

[burnt zealot]

But I focused on exp jewels first

Getting SS jewel

[quiet silo]

I have s exp jewel

But maybe I can get s purple first

[burnt zealot]

I just completed my SS jewel for exp

[quiet silo]

Then focus on getting ss jewel

[burnt zealot]

I use S jewel for BA

[quiet silo]

Ss jewel is no joke lol

Thanks for sharing the info @burnt zealot

Chat here are so dead lol

[burnt zealot]

It’s ok

[tawny patio]

both Blue and Purple can be replaced each other for Jewel. actually with very high cri dmg PDI seems to be a bit better but not significant 🙂

[vocal patio]

Hi fellow heros, keep up the great work. Don’t let our kind die off.

[burnt zealot]

[valid vortex]

Need answer ASAP so I can continue playing XD what skills should I use pre 150? For AB and boss. Thank you. Preset arrangements would be nice. Thank you

[burnt zealot]

raging blow + dash + rage rising

thats it

that the combo

[burnt zealot]

once ur 200 just put ur skills and then put ur summon on ur pet so it auto summons the sword

also turn on bsb

it lets u place down the sword while abing

[lethal grotto]

I didn't even think to put the sword on my pet!

Any matrix tips? I'm still trying to find my second perfect trio, but I seem to get the best burst out of this setup by a pretty large margin

[burnt zealot]

For ab or bossing

For ab I would put

1. boost nodes
2. BSB
3. World reaver
4. Sword illusion
5. Buffs I guess

Bossing

1. Boost nodes
2. Instinctive combo
3. BSB
4. World reaver (more iframe is good)
5. Sword illusion
6. Equip maple goddesss
7. Impenetrable skin
8. Weapon aura

[lethal grotto]

Thank-you

I'll give it a go!

[burnt zealot]

hello heros
i recently got to lvl 230 and i noticed that ive been using alot of HP pots in af 510 any tips?

im using V8 50%

[ionic hearth]

Maybe consider ancient/ chaos gear (if yet) and not sure if it helps but can consider setting burning blade to sentry mode.

[burnt zealot]

Ok I’ll try equipping some high level gear

[burnt zealot]

any pro heros can help give rotation to optimise SC?

[midnight moat]

what hyper skills for hero?

[burnt zealot]

here

[midnight moat]

Why adv combo opportunity

Doesn’t it it get to max stacks super quick alrdy

And after reaching max stacks, doesn’t it render the skill useless

[burnt zealot]

err let me check my hyper

ok i took

advance combo attack - reinforce
advance combo attack - boss rush
advance final attack - opportunity
raging blow - reinforce
Raging blow - extra strike

[midnight moat]

Oh adv final stack opportunity

[solid fiber]

what is Hero's v skill iframe cooldown at level 1?

World Reaver

[burnt zealot]

idk

but play hero

hes so strong

[solid fiber]

is hero 2 minute or 3 minute

[burnt zealot]

no prob like 30 sec

cd

and 1 sec iframe

at lvl 30 our cooldown is 20 sec iirc

[solid fiber]

instinctual combo max level what cd?

[burnt zealot]

180 sec? its like erel

then it drops down to 2 min

[solid fiber]

ok

[tender shard]

Worldweaver level 1 is 30 seconds goes down 2 seconds every 5 and instinctual is 120 seconds CD only duration changes leveling iirc

We don't have a 3 minutes cooldown skill

[solid fiber]

Thank you

[vague heart]

you should able to save those pot and sell it for more mesos

can i see your exp gear if you got time?

[vague heart]

i put sword illusion last

i put all my burst buff in 1 preset there

p1 first

and then p2

p1-p2-p3-world reaver-sword illusion-spam raging blow

not 100% sure also if my burst rotation is the correct one😅

but that’s how i manage to deal highest than other rotation i tried

[burnt zealot]

this is my presets

tbh weapon aura should be up first then the other 3 buffs cuz they are all 80 sec long

This is my preset

i dont use rage rising because i dont have it buffed

[warm iron]

i dont put last because sword illusion give FD buff, which can help to boost damage on all your other skills

unless you're hitting cap on all your skills even if unbuffed then rotation doesnt really matter

[vague heart]

oh yea because i capped mine with just my p1 buff

so i just need the skill dmg so it takes longer😂

[zealous ore]

You use pensalir set for bossing?

[burnt zealot]

No

That’s for mobbing

[solid fiber]

for ab just dash, flash blade, and raging blow?

quite surprised raging blow can hit 3 platform in mini dungeon if you stand in the middle

wth

[burnt zealot]

no flash blade

if u equip too much dashes u dont have enough damage and ur taking damage cuz ur going thru the enemies

[solid fiber]

Oh okok

Is this my “lifesteal”

[burnt zealot]

u dont have life steal

im pretty sure that is just ur HP pot increase

[zealous ore]

Anyone can share what's the cool down and up time like for v1 - v4?

[burnt zealot]

V1 (summon sword + buff)
CD 120 sec
Uptime 80 sec

V2 (iframe)
CD 20 sec
iframe duration 1 sec

V3 (BIG BURST)
CD 120 sec
Uptime 30 sec

V4
CD 30 sec
Uptime 8 sec 25% FD buff

but what u really need to know is

this class is awesome and we have so much damage

[zealous ore]

Damn it looks good

[burnt zealot]

the way nexon keeps increasing our damage cap its going to help low spenders cap those lines easily

cuz we are sooooo strong

im 32 m mdc and im capping while im bursting

[zealous ore]

Is the perfect trio really raging, vahla and FD?

[burnt zealot]

yes

[zealous ore]

How about puncture? No one use them in bosses?

[burnt zealot]

puncture if u want also

[zealous ore]

Cause of the lag?

[burnt zealot]

no its used often

u want to keep the debuff up

it gives u damage buff

but like dont use it while ur bursting ofc or u lose lines

[zealous ore]

So hero will have 4 slots for trios?

[burnt zealot]

4 if ur end game

3 if ur not end game

[zealous ore]

I see thanks man

[burnt zealot]

like is about how many slots u have u know

[zealous ore]

I see, how many lines does v2-v4 have per usage?

[burnt zealot]

idk

i just big damage go burrrrr

ok so hero has the lowest line counts i think in msm

but in return is that we got very high damage lines

so if ur not a whale

and u dont wanna invest in ur weapon like crazy

and do ur armour for mdc ur still good to cap those lines

[solid fiber]

Finally 18

[burnt zealot]

yes good progress my son

i shall see u in lotus

[solid fiber]

i crit 100k dmg at lvl120

hahaha

[burnt zealot]

yes very powerful class

[solid fiber]

Doneeee

6 more items to go

Im going to rank up this armor to legendary

Is this enough to survive 158?

Just legendary jaihin and legendary evd armor

And then the rest is unique

[karmic vine]

Is hero defense any good?

[tender shard]

I've always felt were one of the squshiest warriors the only class defenses is iron body. Also Hero is very strong except for those 40 seconds we don't talk about

Without the changes to worldweaver and our new v4 illusion we do virtually no damage all our lines are gone

[solid fiber]

What is the 40 seconds?

[solid fiber]

Done

[tender shard]

Cry Valhalla and burning soul blade have 80 up time and 40 downtime. It's not only a buff but our most consistent lines. Valhalla and instinctual are actually poorly designed because of boss mechanics anytime we do anything not using raging Blow we bleed off lines that will never come back.

It's just not realistic especially with no long iframes like certain warriors to never have to dodge anything. These moves just need a max attack count equal to current lines. I can't spam only raging Blow and never move at all for 80 straight seconds

[solid fiber]

okay i get it

yeah i noticed that too

especially in damien

if damien goes up the burst goes to waste

[tender shard]

Yeah if you pop instinctual and get ball aggro that's 2k lines lost and he can be unhittable for very long times

[karmic vine]

Dang so basically Kaiser is better lol?

[tender shard]

In the books hero is the worst class in the game line wise and that's if we can hit all of them. But with higher cap I'm sure we'd do better since we do so much upfront damage

Still my favorite class fits like a glove so I'll be playing it

[karmic vine]

Hmm I understand having a hard time deciding between Kaiser and hero lol

[solid fiber]

Do you want to be a dragon for 45 seconds?

And then go back to a normal human being for 20 seconds

😂

Kaiser still cool tho

That class is a bit gear heavy but its a decent class not too strong not too weak

[karmic vine]

Damn why u said it like that😂😂😂😭😭 but I understand maybe I will go hero😂

[solid fiber]

I had a 190+ kai

[burnt zealot]

In my opinion, Hero is a very good low funded class
high damage ceiling (a lot of FD buffs)
plus no brainer class after ur buffed just press attack and wack the boss (if u want a more proactive class hero isn't the one for you)
ive only upgraded my weapon once to necro 42 and im still capping 32m mdc without buffs (while bursting) i use maple goddess after my big burst is gone and my other buffs are still there so that i can do more damage during that 140 sec
short CD iframe if you want to just dodge some stuff very convenient but ofc this meta prefers long Iframes

[tender shard]

I agree but I feel like hero is very active atleast the way I play it

[burnt zealot]

hmm i think when i mean proactive like dual blade where u have short cd on the skills and must spam

[tender shard]

I think every class is trying to be proactive then, gotta get those skills out to get as many cast as you can in the run. The CD doesn't start until after it's cast. If you want a one button class I definitely nominate Dark Knight

[solid fiber]

Dk too boring

Like fr

[tender shard]

I hate dark knight, one of my gms mains it and he hates it when I mention it. it's like the safest cruise control class in the game anybody can be good with it

[solid fiber]

the class with 0 learning curve

good dpm good sustain good iframe

how to achieve that?

you don't

its automatic

[solid fiber]

Done

[distant crypt]

Finally got my hero to 170

[solid fiber]

Nice

[distant crypt]

Is jaihin or agares sword better

[solid fiber]

Like a normal weapon?

[burnt zealot]

between those two jaihin is better

[solid fiber]

144 done

[burnt zealot]

whats that title

[solid fiber]

its the new event title

"im so fast" or smtg

exp and boss attack

[karmic vine]

What’s hero’s perfect trio?

[solid fiber]

raging blow, cry valhalla, final attack (primary)

puncture, rising rage (secondary)

[karmic vine]

Thanks

[solid fiber]

Sf160

[solid fiber]

guys

Someone pls test dmg now and tomorrow

Dicey doo

[ionic hearth]

Wonder what makes them think it is excessively high

😫

[warm iron]

Rip hero

[solid fiber]

dudeee

[warm iron]

Not even that strong yet get nerfs

Probably the worst compared to DK and Pally

[solid fiber]

lowkey demotivated

dude dk got buffed

ffs

[warm iron]

Yeah so dumb

[solid fiber]

like how much op is that class gonna be lmao

.....

[warm iron]

They should have added more lines for hero while reduce damage

That I wouldn't mind

[solid fiber]

dawn warrior got buffed

[ionic hearth]

If decrease % at least increase hit count

[solid fiber]

demon slayer got buffed

dude even kaiser got buffed

[burnt zealot]

bro

they nerf us like crazy

like why would they nerf us 50% +

it doesnt make sense they jsut cut us by half

[solid fiber]

every warrior class got buffed except hero

we got a nerf

https://tenor.com/view/nick-confused-say-what-young-gif-20141667

[ionic hearth]

We lost close to 50% FD and 20% skill damage

[burnt zealot]

big mega nerf

we are already i think the lowest lines in the whole game they just dont want any hero players at this point

[ionic hearth]

[solid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-grave-gif-24807907

[warm iron]

"balance" they say 😂

[ionic hearth]

“Change” they mean

Most classes get higher % or lines to compensate

[burnt osprey]

Wow…

[burnt zealot]

hero gonna be like ur ign @burnt osprey

i think they jsut dont want anyone playing hero

[solid fiber]

“Hey guys aran revamped is around the corner” 💀

Might as well don’t call this class a “hero”

[errant tundra]

If only they gave lines...
This game is depressing

[solid fiber]

no mood to play this game lmao

ffs

my alts also got nerfed

[tender shard]

This is bs did they change how final damage was calculated or something? It doesn't add up and we still had no lines then we shouldn't have cap struggles to offset

[vague heart]

i’m so agree here

if they reduce it they really need to put more lines

[lethal grotto]

I was already slowly starting to backline my hero main but this definitely seals it

[karmic vine]

So everyone moving over to dawn warrior now?😂

[lethal grotto]

Just for easier access from here

[weak thicket]

Rip Hero

[lethal grotto]

Game is live again

[warm iron]

Rip. Damage drops like flies

My training gear from 10m damage drops to 5-6m

[solid fiber]

Guys

My dmg drop

Yesterday ba 270m 1 min

Now 200m 1 min

[warm iron]

Rip

[solid fiber]

Sien

[warm iron]

Only hope is to wait for 6th job

[solid fiber]

im very confused now

what is the intention behind the nerf

they didn't compensate us with some lines to make it "balance"

its just straight ripping us apart

[warm iron]

Because of the MDC increase, they afraid that hero will outdps others due to "HIGH DMG"

Whales can still hit cap, while f2p will suffer like us

[solid fiber]

🤦

They nerf us now then 6th job they gonna bring us back to pre-nerfed or even a lower quality or pre-nerfed

My cadena more dmg than my hero

I can’t do this shyt anymore im done

[lethal grotto]

After running a few tests, I lost ~20% damage

I think this actually stops me from a few of the bosses I was soloing. Definitely dropping hero and only using for dailies =.=

[tender shard]

I think we just need buffs right now, before they didn't do to you much. I'm capping when soulblade/Valhalla are online but when down I'm doing 19m less with raging Blow that's huge

I was in Archon though

[burnt zealot]

BUT I ENJOYED NOT EATING FOOD BUFFS

[tender shard]

My average damage is terrible right now

[burnt zealot]

wait i cant cap 32m anymore

this is so bs

has hero even gotten a buff in the past patches?

apart from v4

[tender shard]

No

[burnt zealot]

why are we put the same as like paladins aitn no one playing hero

[tender shard]

Ark 25 secs, Archon 4:09 and Lotus 2:33 my 1st page tonight, ark unbuffed

Because out of sight out of mind

[solid fiber]

Nexon logic

[fresh junco]

Rip 😦

[burnt zealot]

hey is hero the lowest line count out of all the class?

[fresh junco]

Possibly

Have you ran a test on your dps?

Yikes lol

For this test, I only used instinctual and raging blow/puncture in both runs

[burnt zealot]

this is my dps now

i ran the. tests where i use blessing with burst and after burst

[fresh junco]

Oh i forgot to give some context: the higher dps chart is before the update

Both runs were held with the same variables

[burnt zealot]

idk i never checked before the update

[fresh junco]

Dps went from 1.92b ——> 1.13b under the same conditions

Practically lost half the dps

[ionic hearth]

😫

Maybe they forgot to give us our additional lines

[wintry kayak]

I lost 0 damage lol just gotta buff more

[noble path]

#justiceforheros
my hero trash after patch

shxt wont even cap full buffed anymore

[solid fiber]

6th job buff hopium

i can cope cuz i realised i actually like this class

https://tenor.com/view/crying-frustration-anger-black-guy-crying-sadness-gif-25630772

[radiant thistle]

Howdy y’all new to hero. What should I put my hyper skill points in?

[midnight moat]

That’s all that matters, as long as you enjoy the class

[tender shard]

I run Combo Attack Reinforce and Boss Rush

Final Attack Opportunity

Raging Blow Reinforce and Extra Strike

[ionic hearth]

July is 3 months away; let’s hope

[solid fiber]

I think its gonna be next year

Because usually rebalance effects last for 1 year just how v4 was the last class rebalance

Then the next class update will be 6th job

They will need to gather data to balance us during 6th job

1 year should be enough data for nexon

[burnt zealot]

yea actually ive been capping without buffs

but now i need 30% buffs to fully cap

[warm iron]

but if vhilla released somewhere in May, they definitely wont wait 1 year before releasing 6th job

[ionic hearth]

We are usually half a year away from kms; theirs was in December 24; presumably 2025 anni for us.

[solid fiber]

Ok that is true

[tender shard]

They used to do monthly or bimonthly balance patches but they've just stopped

[wintry kayak]

We still didn't lose damage so I don't get what the big problem is though

[tender shard]

Probably still the lowest lines in the game while the field built even more distance on us

[solid fiber]

Non whales struggling earlier stages

I went for 2 shotting to 4/5 shotting mobs in 158

Now im forced to retreat back to 144

[tawny patio]

I asked them to re-consider Hero adjustment in QOL room but my msg was gone 🫠🫠

[solid fiber]

don't be surprise

[solid fiber]

damn hero can only use raging blow in ab?

do you guys have flash blade or charge in the skill wheel?

[wintry kayak]

I hate to burst your bubble but if you really think every rebalance is supposed to specifically benefit you and the characters in your account at their perspective progress points you are a bit delulu

[solid fiber]

When did I say that?

[wintry kayak]

Well

The rebalance hits you cuz you gotta go back to SF144 was your issue

[solid fiber]

Of course thats my issue

[wintry kayak]

But if that's the stage you're at you're probably not the target group for hero rebalance stuff

[solid fiber]

I am part of the target group because I play hero

https://tenor.com/view/question-mark-question-soru-işareti-wtf-what-gif-20450377

[lethal grotto]

I'd just ignore them, some folks can't come down from their pedestal and realize that this affects more people then the top 0.1%

This patch hurt us early/mid game players more then anyone from late to end game.

[wintry kayak]

I'm very much not in the top 0.1% with my hero lol, I just meant it as in you can't expect to do way more damage than your gear allows indefinitely, better to just be grateful you did for a while

• on top of that him having to go back a map has literally nothing to do with this rebalance as only the bossing mode version of raging blow, the dot from Valhalla and 5th job skills got nerfed

I'm all for calling out nerfs when they are but if you go crazy over stuff like this the actual important things will be drowned out

[solid fiber]

yeah

[tender shard]

I guess they just thought the class was just to f2p friendly so they took alot of our power away. I never chose it for that it was my first PC class and I'm a day one hero on msm didn't know any of that would be the case. It's still a fact we have no lines. Usually skill damage down is accompanied by more lines but this is just bullying

Also raging Blow just sounds like it has more hits in sound effects but lines never changed

[solid fiber]

I was expecting them to give us some lines

Thats all

When i read that they reduce our fd and skill dmg i was still hoping that they will give us some lines

But welp

🤷‍♂️

[tender shard]

It doesn't make any sense and who are these excessively strong heroes their trying to keep in their place?

[solid fiber]

I only have one reason for this

They are preparing us for 6th job

I ask around kmsm and hero right there is good now

So that is my only possible explanation

[tender shard]

So we just gotta suffer for now

[solid fiber]

Yeah

[tender shard]

Also grats I think you leveled up to 3 in the discord

[solid fiber]

I think this is the last rebalancing b4 6th job

Tq

So for the next 1 year this will be hero

[midnight moat]

They probabaly will balance it again this summer during 6th job release patch

[solid fiber]

yes

[burnt zealot]

we should prob put some words in feedback

if not they might think we are ok with it

[solid fiber]

yeah someone should write down their dissastiscation and what nexon can do to help us

i can't do that haha feedback muted

[burnt zealot]

u got muted????

[solid fiber]

yeah been long time since they mute me

so long ady still no unmute

2 accidents 2 trolls

the accidents is cuz i put more than 1 qol inside

that time only can put 1 qol per comment

now u see people replying each other in the QoL section

🤷‍♂️

[burnt zealot]

lol

[warm iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH6FP2A6204

motivation for all hero 😂

[solid fiber]

[burnt zealot]

hmmm i think our main concern is more of if they continue to nerf us cuz
we have very little lines compared to other classes and this is with the dummy that isnt moving our burst is 30 secs long and the bosses in the end game arent going to have a 30 sec uptime and currently we we got nerfed by 50% and what if they nerf us further cuz we are still relatively strong and then it kinda just sinks the nail for our class (also idk if there that many high spenders on this class)

[tender shard]

Anytime during the 80 seconds Valhalla and burning soul blade were not hitting the boss we lose lines too. Only thing we had is others could struggle to cap but we always did so lower lines maybe offset in that case

[fresh junco]

Insane..

[tepid minnow]

Prior to this fd change, I was doing same dmg theoretically compared to shadowers as hero and closing in on DBS as well. So the class is just fine, just gotta learn to time stuff better etc

[solid fiber]

🗿 heroes may i know the full sets of hyperstats needed for training?

What else needed besides exp and pexp?

[desert ledge]

item buff duration and fever buff duration

[solid fiber]

Thank you

[tawny patio]

anyone in A2S has high SF mythic to Chaos sword for sell ? 🙂

[crude ginkgo]

hey, whats the best hyper skills setup for Hero? - found pinned

Thanks!

[scarlet loom]

have u tested if opportunity is better than reinforce for final attack

[tender shard]

Even with the nerfs I like consistent lines we have to little

[vital cloak]

hello senpais , im a hero lover in Msea and was thinking of maining this class in MSM too as a new f2p player , but saw that it took some hit during the recent nerf , is it still advisable to main a Hero class now or should i look for other alternatives class ?

[zealous ore]

If you like the class then I guess nerfs won't really matter, rebalances happen all the time

[warm iron]

If you like the class, then just go for it. Don't let the nerf stop you from enjoying your fav class.

[radiant thistle]

Just hit 200 What order should I max v skills in

[burnt zealot]

IC> BSB > world reaver > v4

[fluid pawn]

I'm maining this class in GMS Kronos, I'll main this class again in MSM

I remember the 2H Sword is bug in this game

I use the 2H Axe with this job

in both versions

[burnt zealot]

Not a bug

Just axe has more buffs

Hero art uses a sword

[slim harness]

hi fellow heroes, is there priority order of making link skill for hero?

[burnt zealot]

is blitz shield useful?

[burnt zealot]

idts just do the normal order where u priortise exp first

[ionic hearth]

It gives 15%pdmg at 30 I think

[burnt zealot]

Omg wow ok

[pine spindle]

This is probably the first warrior I played that doesn't need strong equipment to hit hard. Pre 200. Why is that so stronger than the other warrior class

[burnt zealot]

cuz we have (probably) the least amount of lines in the whole game

but they also nerfed our damage which is a bit sad

[pine spindle]

Interesting

[zealous ore]

Aran has fewer lines than heroes?

[burnt zealot]

aran has so many lines

but it is all pretty old data it was when v4 came out

[tender shard]

V4 warrior lines

[burnt zealot]

is it not outdated?

omg hero is the lowest line count in the whole MSM

[tender shard]

It's from the balance patch before last month's but mostly everyone improved we got nothing but less power so it's worse than this

I swear I showed you this in dms before

[burnt zealot]

i just unlocked spider eye

where did u guys put it

[tender shard]

I put it on my 2nd page, I do forget about it sometimes but it's on 2 minutes cooldown I don't need immediate access

[burnt zealot]

oh ok

[warm iron]

Hero getting a decent buff in kmsm from todays patch

[burnt zealot]

oh what are the buffs

[ionic hearth]

Something to look forward to one year from now

[burnt zealot]

lol

[solid fiber]

new changes in patch that came out yesterday

[ionic hearth]

What the previous patch should have bern - with the hit counts increased at least to offset the decrease in FD.

[zealous ore]

Where did you get this from? I would like to see for bucc as well

[warm iron]

Just look for the Kmsm patch note

[solid fiber]

korean maple website is not accesible outside of korea anymore

i got this from watching kmsm streamers

i just happened to pass by hero's chat so i sent it here haha

[solid fiber]

here you go

[solid fiber]

i guess this will come out next month

predicting 6th job comes out next month as well

[warm iron]

i use vpn to access

[warm iron]

rip to timeleap cd haha

[solid fiber]

Can rec me vpn to use?

Is it free haha

[warm iron]

i just use vpn korea haha

its free

[solid fiber]

oooo thanks!

[zealous ore]

Thanks man! It's a huge buff for buccs too!

[tender shard]

They're using the feedback I gave before the nerf with instinctual having cast instead of duration so we won't lose any lines anymore

Is enrage going to ignore defense when on or something?

[stuck jewel]

Thank you!

[tender shard]

No prob I just seen someone like marksmans crossbow cartilage and I thought it was unfair. They work so similarly but they can hold it for a whole minute

[warm iron]

no. enrage in their patch doesnt have target count limit anymore

so u can on during AB or honor battle for that 25% FD

[zealous ore]

Hero or DS for bossing?

[burnt zealot]

depends on funding i feel

hero works rly well with low funding

[ionic hearth]

Hero has minimal iframe though; not sure about ds but seems more/ longer than hero.

[burnt zealot]

yea that one of heros cons

[warm iron]

@zealous ore
Hero require only low funding to achieve good damage due to high innate FD but has only 2 iframe

• Worldreaver - 2s iframe (20s CD which is really good)
• Impen skin - 3s iframe (60s CD)

DS require decent funding for bossing and has 4 iframe

• Dark Meta with hyper passive added - 10s iframe (2min CD)
• impen skin - 3s iframe (60s CD)
• Raven Storm - must time perfectly for iframe to be active (30s CD)
• Demon bane - burst skill while in iframe but cannot move (2min CD)

[vague heart]

is it just me or do you guys feels like a lot weaker recently?

i mean not after last patch nerf but like in these 2 weeks?

[vague heart]

this is the battle result

like idk why i do like 20m and 14m

and the other carry on my team finds it weird also, she realizes i do less dmg than her in these 2 days

and this is her battle result

[stuck jewel]

Do you have results from before?

I am weak every day so I did not notice a difference in the last few weeks

[stuck jewel]

Do you have fair trade

[vague heart]

i do i put it on pet one sec

oh lmaoooooooooooo

my bad all

i accidentally take it off

scared u all for nothing😂

[random skiff]

[zealous ore]

Is this still valid?

[vague heart]

lmao

[warm iron]

Yes

[humble current]

hello, i just hit lv200 on my hero and its my main/first char to hit 200. what am i supposed to do for v matrix? i have been trying to search for heroes v matrix and perfect trio but couldn't find a guide.

2 sets of "cry valhalla, raging blow, final attack" triangle with different bases?

[solid fiber]

Focus on primary trio

Get 2 sets of them

The order must be different

Example:

1. Cry, Final, Raging
2. Final, Raging, Cry

Mix and match basically

For maxing V skill priority order:

1. Instinctual Combo V3
2. Burning Soul Blade V1
   (I think IC and BSB should be evenly levelled every time)
3. World Reaver V2
4. Sword Illusion V4

https://youtu.be/v94Mmmt7G4A?si=ZPaEHyPfRHerpmAB

[humble current]

Thanks bro, that' s very helpful. I just watched the video, appreciate it!

[solid fiber]

[stuck jewel]

buff hero

[warm iron]

Soon bro. Wait for rebalance in Aug - Sep

[burnt zealot]

YESSSS

plsss BUFF US MOARRRRR

[humble current]

Hello, can I exalt my 2h axe with a 2h sword as fodder?

[solid fiber]

No

Axe for axe

2h for 2h

[humble current]

At ancient rank, the process to exalt is also using same weapon fodder? Or need craft the radiant stone to exalt at ancient rank?

[solid fiber]

I think u can make mythic exalt stones, I THINK

[solid fiber]

Either fodder or stones for inherit

For necro people use stones

Inherit and necro is under the ancient category

[humble current]

Ah okie. I thought necro also part of ancient

[solid fiber]

Sry i meant

Inhe and nec under anc

[humble current]

I guess necro ppl rather craft the stones cos too expensive to exalt with necro fodder right haha

[solid fiber]

Yes

[humble current]

wew like this I better aim for necro axe after patch. If not can't find axe fodders next time hahaha

[solid fiber]

I think its better to go 2 handed

Since there’s more supply

[humble current]

U mean 2h sword is it? Haha

[solid fiber]

Yes

[humble current]

When I first started my hero years ago, I went w axe because it looks more barbaric

Without realising the fodder restriction HAHA F

[solid fiber]

U can still stick with axe but no one is going to buy it if u sell

[humble current]

Haha it's ok I don't intend to sell my axe. Too much of an emotional rollercoaster over the years trying to star force it

[solid fiber]

If thats the case then u just gotta get through the mythic exaltation

After that u can just make exalt stones for necro exalt

[humble current]

okie thanks for the advice!

[solid fiber]

How is ur item now?

[humble current]

only my weapon looks nice, the rest i am still exalting halfway to lv40

all mythic only. none at ancient or necro

[frank summit]

With only 2 iframes on Hero, is blitz shield a good last resort to tank boss hits?

[stuck jewel]

Prob not

Only 2 iframes but one is short cooldown

Better off learning boss mechanics to try and dodge the deadly attacks

[humble current]

hero is the only class that has 2 weapons? I just realised the treasure box pull does not have an axe option...

[solid fiber]

Exactly

[frank summit]

Got it , cheers to Hero buff

[humble current]

I will play hero the hard mode and continue with my axes hahahaha

[proper otter]

Hyper stats I should go for FD>PD>MDC>ADI or FD>PD>ADI>MDC or another way ?

[midnight moat]

anyone got AB wheel

[solid fiber]

Raging blow, flash blade, sword illusion, world reaver

Sword illusion first, then world reaver, then flash blade, lastly raging blow

[midnight moat]

Why raging blow last

[midnight moat]

Have a pic?

[burnt zealot]

this my ab wheel
you dont need the dash
but the macro is rage blow, Dash and rage rising
then the rest is Vskills + summon
i got enrage to turn it off after bossing if i forget but doesnt matter as long as u or ur pt kills i guess

and the dash is just extra movement

[blissful hemlock]

do you use the raging blow preset on bosses

[humble current]

I am finally lv220 thanks to hyper burn

[burnt zealot]

No

You want to sit still n wack for maximum damage output

Until they revamp our burst

[blissful hemlock]

thank you, so no rising rage or puncture for bossing?

[blissful hemlock]

also not even raging blow presetted with beam blade?

[burnt zealot]

Yea puncture no rage rising for bossing

[blissful hemlock]

ok thanks so puncture and raging blow right only

[midnight moat]

what does the V1 toggle do?

i dont notice any difference

[ionic hearth]

Burning blade if toggled “stands still” like a sentry. Usually for training preset

[warm iron]

follow u or stationary

[midnight moat]

Ooh

Which is better?

Follow I assume?

[warm iron]

follow for bossing

stationary for training

[midnight moat]

Is the hyper worth using for training?

And puncture?

[warm iron]

hyper?

[warm iron]

i dont really use puncture for training

[midnight moat]

the lvl 170 skill

[warm iron]

oh rising rage

yes. i use that during training

[cloud zodiac]

!abwheel

[short epoch]

kingmuzik, that command is disabled in this channel.

[gilded flint]

Someone helps me build this v matrix

Im newbie

[warm iron]

what help u need

[gilded flint]

Yeah which skills i need to build first

[warm iron]

need all your v skill. for trio, just need final attack, raging blow and cry valhalla

[gilded flint]

Can u explain “trio” mean 😢

[warm iron]

3 skill in a node.

[gilded flint]

Oh thanks u so much

[lean surge]

Also remember to spend your matrix point, that increases the slot level to max level of 5. With 2 perfect trios and 2 max level slots will grant you a total of max levels of 60 for the three skills which is equivalent to 120% final damage increase I believe

[burnt zealot]

for V skills
Instinctual Combo > Burning soul blade > Iframe > Sword Illusion

[gilded flint]

Can u show me the detailed

[lean surge]

As you can see in here, having it level 25 and the slot level 5 total of 30. This increase the final damage of the trio by 60% and have 2 trio makes it 120% total increase final damage.

[gilded flint]

Oh oke thanks bro appreciate

[tender shard]

Instinctual has finally been fixed but it looks like burning soul blade took its place and will have the same issues being 30 seconds now

[ionic hearth]

At least a buff to Instinct

[tender shard]

Not only a buff it's usable now without losing half your lines to boss mechanics

Bsb has always been a weird skill atleast in Damien I can lock it if I need to move balls. But going between phases or boss going unhittable will literally have the same issues as instinctual had for securing lines

[solid fiber]

Isnt it better now that bsb is condensed?

So our burst will be shorter with higher output instead of dragging it for 80 seconds

[tender shard]

It technically is yeah. even if the boss does something we'd still get more lines out over 30 seconds than the 80

[solid fiber]

Yeah

Hugeee

[blissful hemlock]

Sup hero gang, so i guess it’s mostly a buff with bsb?

[solid fiber]

Yes

Big buffs overall

And we don’t have to turn off enrage anymore

Since they removed the target count

[blissful hemlock]

What about enrage, can we just leave it on indefinitely now

Now that they removed the target count if i understand

It’s so annoying to toggle it on and off between training and bossing lol

[solid fiber]

Yes

Yeah everytime i do dailies or ab must turn off

Annoying

[blissful hemlock]

THANK GAWD

appreciate it man

Enrage should just be a passive skill at this point lol

[stuck jewel]

Bsb is same line count as before. We are just now weaker for 90 seconds instead of 40 seconds.

[tender shard]

Yeah that's what I was thinking it was good sustained damage now we only have Valhalla

And instinctual is still only 30 seconds but can get through all 25 in 15 so problem still exist

Probably more like 18 Seconds for all 25

[tender shard]

Lemme know what you guys think but this is kinda a fake buff. instinctual and soulblade basically do the same lines the only buffs are lines on sword illusion and enrage becoming a passive. While we lost 1% off each buff from instinctual and 4% less hp/mp regen. We just secure lines easier with shorter time needed on soul blade and instinctual

[solid fiber]

so far i like it

because its condensed

i'd rather have my burst be done in 30 seconds than dragging until 80 seconds

[tender shard]

I agree it is better than sticking to the boss for over a minute

Would miss alot more lines the way it was before

[solid fiber]

yeah

its actually a huge buff considering now we don't miss any lines at all

[tender shard]

I thought instinctual was going to last if you didn't use all 25 swings until next recast so will test will still eat abunch if melted

[solid fiber]

the IC reduce delay on the animation is also quite good

now i hope they remove the delay on post world reaver

its very awkward casting WR and standing there for 1 sec

unless u combo wr with dash/flash blade

[tender shard]

Wr is cool tho and I've got great timing with it how it is rn

[solid fiber]

oh wait

i meant the movement part

typo

sry

[tender shard]

Yeah without the quick draw stance you can move with invincibility further

I don't mind it tho

[solid fiber]

yeah if there's no chg it alright to me as well

its just i play dawn warrior on the side