Paladin

[vagrant axle]

So best to rank up some fodder boost nodes with other fodder lv 1 nodes first before extracting them to then use that to level up my equipped nodes?

That doesn't sound logical, but if that's the math.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[barren lava]

According to the chart yes

What else do we have though?

[vagrant axle]

Thanks mate. Ill try gathering more nodes and rank them up etc. If I feel I get lost in it ill hit you up haha 😁

[vagrant axle]

Would you mind sharing you skill wheels foor mobbing and for bossing with all these added skills?

[grizzled scroll]

What about this guide written by justmeasures? It stated extracting at levels 8,15,16,20 is recommended.

[shut bison]

There you go

[sly ocean]

What are Skill Link priority for Paladin?!

[barren lava]

Oh man I’ve been extracting at level 5

Guess I’ll push to level 8 then

[blissful sierra]

I've resorted to keeping boost nodes for the 3 main skills.. blast, HH and divine judgement. gets me like 95% of the way there and I don't have to switch out my nodes for mobbing since I use blast all the time. HH becomes a map clear every 5 secs

[blissful sierra]

inherit 40 cd

i feel like blast is better for me because it one shots and cast speed is way faster

oh

I'll test out divine charge when I hit 140AF then

but I definitely won't be bothering with doing smite shield, FA and divine charge trios because I don't even have the divine charge hit count hyper

[shut bison]

FA procs while you’re bossing, why wouldn’t you want to level it? Extra damage. Plus if you ever did want to level it in the future, you’d have to hunt for new perfect trios. Divine charge is especially important for f2p(ish) players because it helps with mobbing and therefore more exp. And, if youre making a divine charge trio, then you might as well train smite shield, which also helps with mobbing.

An added bonus of training divine charge is that if you’re strong enough, you can take a hyper skill point off of extra hit, and put it into spread, which makes pally a nasty ass mobbing class. Hits the platform above you in SF194 if I recall.

[muted trench]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wth-wtf-really-meme-gif-17151805

[muted trench]

Blast = 3 targets
Divine Charge = 6 targets

Divine Mark (only with Divine Charge) = 9 targets
Divine Mark explosion = 5 targets

Divine Judgement (only with Blast) only adds hit counts, not target counts

[muted trench]

instead of smite shield for training trio... Divine Charge/Heaven's Hammer/Divine Mark is better. Shield has too long of a cooldown

[shut bison]

Why not use the divine mark trios you’d use for bossing?

[muted trench]

oh i see your setup

too many boost nodes there imo

3-4 extra slots can go towards decent nodes and special nodes instead

decent holy symbol > special pexp rune > blitz shield > Impenetrable skin/DSE/DHB

• DHS for when you don't have a bishop. Even then, you wont' have a bishop 100% of the time you party or EOS farm etc
• PEXP rune is self explanatory
• blitz shield can explode and help you increase kpm ever so slightly (minimal but better than nothing imo)
• Impenetrable skin gives PDI, PA, HP
• I would rather have the stats from Impenetrable skin/DSE/DHB than 3 other boost nodes where I'm only utilizing one node from them

you also do not need "training nodes" until like AF270 onwards

everything AF170 and below can be sufficiently done with regular pally bossing nodes where Divine Mark is the only usable node for farming

[shut bison]

If I use an exp hammer in AF170, I don’t one shot even with maxed divine charge node. I think that fact alone should motivate the use of training nodes. Then you’ve got heavens hammer which is one of the main mobbing skills. Smite shield is an added bonus. Sure, you have less room for your decent/special nodes (which I’d argue are far more negligible anyway), but I think the kill speed would offset any losses there.

[muted trench]

I guess. Or you could just swap out the 3 bossing nodes and 3 training nodes when needed that way you can have the other nodes as well

[shut bison]

I see, so basically use a set of divine charge, divine mark, and hh nodes for training. I guess this makes sense. For some reason having two sets of divine mark nodes doesn’t sit right with me but having those decent/special nodes is most likely better than having maxed smite.

[muted trench]

Oo yeah! I dont disagree with your approach. I just disagree with 6 boost nodes there 🤣

[blissful sierra]

makes sense

[blissful sierra]

do people usually put a hyper point into divine charge? I've put both spare hypers into heavens Hammer

[shut bison]

Just tested. Lvl 1 smite doesn’t 1 hit if I use exp hammer.

[muted trench]

yep bc it helps with divine mark as well

you only need HH cooldown cutter

HH has 30% additional CR inherently added. should be more than enough to kill mobs. if not then your weapon and base stats are the issue

[muted trench]

af170

[next pollen]

It might be better to ask in game-help, but figured maybe I'd ask here. For someone who's not F2P, but not dumping money into the game. Is it an option to purchase uniq gear w/ unwanted emblems in hopes of utilizing emblem change scrolls in the future and maybe landing a CD or BA emblem?

Whats a whale? hahaha I see that term all the time

ooof ok

Ahh

Agreed

[dire hare]

I managed to get perfect trio x3, I just realised that cause of their different levels it's apparently maxed lvl 60? So I shouldn't actually be using 3 perfect trios? Beyond v1,v2 and v3, what should I be working on node wise now? Combat order?

[dire hare]

Does combat order not get buffed by the boost node?

My perfect trio combined is at level 60 already. Even if I increased it doesn't do anything right?

Ah my bad. Saw it as part of trio and thought it does the same thing

No as in it does increase or No it does nothing?

Ah cool so nodes from this are now fodder since its already 60

[blissful sierra]

that's true, i put it because it felt like the better option at the time. guess whenever I get a reset coupon I'll put it into DC then

[vagrant axle]

I just wanted to share that Paladins node skills are awesome. I was able to solo all chaos bosses without needing the entire 15 minutes or whatever. Took about 2 minutes for chaos cygnus which for me is such a great boost compared to when I was lvl 199 😁

[blissful sierra]

did you max your boost nodes immediately?

Echo and Grand guardian are nuts

[vagrant axle]

Nah man I need way too many nodestones for that lol. I do have 2 perfect boss boost node trios that are lv 6 and 9. Zo it will only get better after 300 years when I finally gathered enough nodestones lol

[blissful sierra]

oh indeed, I'm in a similar spot just waiting for nodestones prices to drop even more

[vagrant axle]

How far so you think they'll drop? They're around 22m atm

[novel matrix]

Thinking about maining paladin, advice and tips for a beginner

[blissful sierra]

at the rate it's going i think it might go below 20 in a few weeks

[bright briar]

Can someone share what skill node i should prioritize to put matrix point?

[shut bison]

Echo

[bright briar]

i had put 5 points into echo and v3

what else i should allocate?

[shut bison]

I’d put the next into weapon aura

[bright briar]

Ok2

[vagrant axle]

Gotta be a bit more specific than just ask for random tips. If you are totally new to the game, just search for beginner advice on here. Plenty times people posted some basic beginner info.

If you want specific tips for paladin, be specific in what you'd like to know

[blissful sierra]

Echo, V3, Weapon Aura, V1

[blissful sierra]

Looking for some advice on my own nodes actually, I dumped everything into Echo once I got Grand Guardian to level 10 for the cooldown reduction

[vagrant axle]

How much is the cooldown reduction? Grand guardian is awesome it just melts though boss HP lol

[blissful sierra]

you get 10 seconds reduction every 5 levels, so right now I'm at 2 minute 40 second cooldown

[vagrant axle]

No idea what you can work on except further improving your skills or farm and level up other node trios. Your ahead of my on node progress so I wouldn't know

[crude trout]

You can add Impenetrable Skin for a sweet passive buff on PD, PA and HP

[novel matrix]

Couldn't say cuz I've never played Maplestory before so don't know how the class plays nor it's abilities and what not but I'll look around and see what I can find

[weary quiver]

Good for F2P I guess?

[scenic warren]

Final attack node obsolete now?

[blissful sierra]

it's not, people who want to maximize damage will usually put FA

i haven't kept it because HH is more useful to me

[vagrant axle]

Where do you still use HH? I find myself in a place where I'm actually not using it anymore besides it being on my skill wheel for AB

[blissful sierra]

AB

though I think even without the nodes I might still be one shotting

[barren lava]

You’re probably one shotting already with HH

[vagrant axle]

Since I don't have an issue mobbing, I'm focusing on getting my 3rd perfect trio for bossing so I can level them all to 20 to max them without using the v points. Should I put my v points in the skills? First one being Echo?

[shut bison]

Yes sir

[vagrant axle]

Just put all 5 into echo before putting them elsewhere? Next would be grand guardian or?

[shut bison]

Yeah grand guardian next

And then weapon aura and then hammers

And then decent skills

Until V4 comes out

[vagrant axle]

Gotcha! Thanks bro

[novel matrix]

Are paladins good with one handed swords? I prefer them over hammers and so would love to continue playing with one handed swords

[vagrant axle]

They're the same so choose whichever. Most choose hammer as it shares them with another class (demon) and thus more available/cheaper

[novel matrix]

Sweet! Appreciate it

[blissful sierra]

Does blast animation change if you're using a sword?

idk why swords are a thing honestly, there are no sword animations in any of the skills

Hammer just feels right

[vagrant axle]

I got 1 trio to 20 and still have more boost nodes to get it to level 25. Just do that and leave 1 of the others at 15 or so?

Or extract the rest and make sure the other 2 trios get to 20 as well

[shut bison]

I got all mine to 20. Not sure if 25s and 15 is more or less nodes than all 20s

[vagrant axle]

Okay. Ill check the general help channel as its not paladin specific. See if anyone else knows. Thanks mate!

[weary quiver]

Paladin hyper stats is the 3 physical damage ones right?

[blissful sierra]

FDI, ADI, MDC, PDI

[weary quiver]

Thanks

[weary quiver]

What’s ADI and MDC

[weary quiver]

Sankieww

[bold mason]

There is any reason to buy jaihin CD emblem over BA jaihin weapon?

[vagrant axle]

I don't get your question. What do you mean?

[next pollen]

When warriors use to be able to carry shields

[strange marsh]

How should a lv 100 paladin skull wheel look?

[vagrant axle]

I had it use devine charge and heavens hammer.

[weary quiver]

divine charge if u can 1-2 hits, blast if you cannot. and heaven hammer

[muted trench]

current future proof setup is all CD emblems

4/4, 5/3, and 6/2 CD:BA still work cause capping is relatively easy

CD emblem has higher resale value. If not worried about resale then it doesn't matter

[bold mason]

So overall with lower investment it will be better to focus on mixing and it will work great anyway

Got it, thank you

[weary quiver]

@slender parrot

In terms of top,glove, shoe, cape , shoulder for long term which type of eq (utguard/ muspell etc etc ) should we go for

[muted trench]

Hat/glove/weapon is crit dmg, rest dont matter

maybe exp if you wanna lvl slightly faster

[weary quiver]

Thanks man

[still frost]

What's the best node for pala?

[muted trench]

Bossing:

• Blast
• Final Attack
• Divine Mark/Judgement

Farming

• Divine Charge
• Heaven's Hammer
• Divine Mark/Judgement

***Farming nodes are not necessary until you are in high AF, have dedicated exp gear, and cannot 1-2 shot mobs

[lilac kiln]

can someone post skill wheel pre 200 for ab/boss

[muted trench]

If able to 1-2 hit mobs with Divine Charge

Divine Charge, Heaven’s Hammer, Smite Shield

If not… Blast, Heaven’s Hammer, Smite Shield

If not and aggroing too much… just Blast

[terse bough]

wan to ask do i use 1h sword or 1h hammer

[lilac kiln]

Hammer

[weary quiver]

What’s the difference though

[weary quiver]

Ahhh I see , thanks

[quick rose]

Hi was wondering what souls are ppl generally using for secondary/bsc for bossing? do they go CD, BA, or EXP?

[quick rose]

Ahh got it Thank you for your insight

[vagrant axle]

For my paladin I now have the following links:
Phantom
Ark
Evan
DS
Da
Xenon
Sia

What should I add next?
Kinesis for the last CD% or warriors for BA%, pirates for FD% or thieves for p.atk%?

Or something else I'm not seeing now.

[vagrant axle]

Whats cadena link? Edit: its 4% FD so I'll get her up on release.

P.atk has less impact on dmg than FD and BA?

[primal lava]

Helpful to have some exp ones if youre maining + farming often

Mercedes + Mages

[left surge]

Nerf pala

[vagrant axle]

I'm on holidays atm, did we get a hard nerf or is it still okay?

[muted trench]

echo bug that worked in pallys favor but it got patched this morning

[vagrant axle]

Yeah I read something like that. Does it impact us hard, or we still doing okay!

Not sure what normal is as I'm only playing paladin for 2 months and unlocked v matrix just a few weeks now

Do we still manage well? Or better to swap main now if paladin was my main?

[shut bison]

My lotus dpm went up by 30b overnight

[shut bison]

It hasn’t changed for u if u didn’t play since last patch

[vagrant axle]

Lol how? Could you summarize what was the bug and what is now changed (back)?

Lol. So basically only the partners dmg affected. My own is still my own?

Than thats not really too big a deal indeed. Just a proper bug fix right.

Yeah, I know it translate to being my dmg, but you know what i mean 🙂

Glad its not a major nerf putting pala back down near the bottom again

[sly ocean]

What upgrade should I be after at this point? I was thinking maybe a weapon, but not sure what weapon to get. Have 3b for upgrade.

[sly ocean]

What shall I get?!

[tranquil python]

It's really just luck if u can get the accessories

Cpb mark
Cht earrings, necklace, ring
Ht necklace

[terse bough]

can paladin all L eq survive 144sf map?

or all U eq

[weary quiver]

Mine was a mixture , legend weapon and mostly unique with Zak helm and pb belt iirc

[muted trench]

depends on what you want to do with it

[primal lava]

when you get v skills at lvl 200 its always good to have buff pets, but u get enough free pets anyway to sustain it 🤷‍♂️

[muted trench]

Paladins are not the greatest farmers comparative to other classes

They have poor map coverage and if you dont have pets with fever you hinder your meso farming and node farming

Theyre usually a bossing mule instead of a farming mule

they're better farmers yes but they also have way more buffs

pets are cheap nowadays and if you're meso farming then you can afford to maintain pets as well. The average player can maintain pets. It's essential in this game

[shut bison]

With the right hyper skills paladins can be pretty good mobbers imo

[muted trench]

right but he's trying to min it all lol

Pre 200

1. Parashock Guard
2. Combat Orders
3. Divine Blessing
4. Hero's Will* (not needed for AB)

Post 200

1. Divine Echo
2. Hammer of the Righteous
3. Blitz Shield (defensive buff, not really needed for AB)
4. Weapon Aura
5. Impenetrable Skin
6. Decent Sharp Eyes, Holy Symbol, Advanced Blessing, Hyperbody (not really needed for AB)

whether or not you "need" them depends on your gear and what field you're trying to farm

[lilac kiln]

someone got skill wheel for ba pre 200

[tranquil python]

Just divine charge(if you can kill em in 1-2hits), holy hammer, and the stun

[lilac kiln]

for bossing?

[shut bison]

By no means the strongest, but definitely viable.

[deep lake]

Hey guys

I’m new should I play dk or paladin

Which is better idk

[lilac kiln]

Pally is meta

[scenic warren]

Any pallys here soloing lotus yet besides echo

[shut bison]

Yes I’ve done it several times. Great for when you miss it with your team.

[vagrant axle]

Could you show me your gear and stats perhaps? Dm is fine. I'd like to get a feel of what is needed to be able to do it

[scenic warren]

Mind sharing ur method. Im struggling on lasers. 50% stage 1 my best so far

[shut bison]

What’s your cap? Are you full buffing? Are you dying to lasers or robots?

Are you using ds4?

[scenic warren]

15.9 mdc, full buff. I guess both since the lil guys stun. ‘Ot bringing any all cures in yet. No ds4

[shut bison]

DS4 is very important. Defense buffs would help. I try to make sure I aim for the robots even if it means not hitting lotus for a sec. You need to kill them asap.

[scenic warren]

Will try with ds4 next time. Are you 1 shotting the mobs? Seems like it takes me 2-3 hits

[shut bison]

One or two shots I think

I don’t recall

[sly ocean]

I have a question, what skill link characters are best to push for for Paladin?! Currently I have:
Mercedes
Blaster
Wild Hunter
Mechanic
BattleMage
Kannan
Cadena

[vagrant axle]

Id focus most on the FD, PD and BA ones (cadena, sia, xenon, demons, evan)

That's what people mostly advised me a while back

[iron pilot]

Hey guys, quick question - is anyone capping the lines on righteous hammer?

Main lines are capping but not the hammer lines..

[primal lava]

I'm sure some people are, but youre gonna need a lot of stats and buffs

at 37k patk I don't cap with 16m~ mdc

[near aspen]

Paladins are very weak sadge

Please buff

[near aspen]

[weary quiver]

What’s the maximum number of hyperstat we can get , do we stop getting hyperstat at level 200 ? And what to max for pala.

[vagrant axle]

What to max: additional dmg, physical dmg, final damage and max dmg increase.

[weary quiver]

Thanks !

[vagrant axle]

If anyone no longer mains paladin and has necro hammer they may want to get rid of. Hmu 🙏🏼

[vagrant axle]

Which neutral V skills are recommended? I got rope lift for farming, but nothing more other than the class skills

[vagrant axle]

Do all decent skills offer the same passive stat boost? P.atk and m.atk.
Or do some offer other/better stats when leveled up?

[tranquil python]

The only think that changes when you lv those buff nodes is an increase in %phyatk gained

[vagrant axle]

Thanks!

Quick other question: do souls effect flame scaling or not? 🧐

[vagrant axle]

Does sacrosanctity work with necro weapons fair trade?
Like does it protect against the 2500 dmg per sec?

Or does the fair trade skill get canceled when you use sacrosanctity and vice versa?

[dire hare]

Sacro nulls the dmg taken by fair trade

[vagrant axle]

What do you guys think I could ask for this in A2S currently?

[frigid hamlet]

Switching for a necro wep? Or you need the funds?

[vagrant axle]

Switched and now need funds as it drained me lol

[frigid hamlet]

Hmm seems nice to keep for an alt but if you need the funds start around 15b. It’s decent for being ancient even with the low cuts. Go from there

[vagrant axle]

Demon slayer isn't the best atm right? And another pally ain't appealing to me haha

Thanks! I'll try it at around 15b and also promote it on a trading group. See if and what offers come up

[frigid hamlet]

Personally, I’d keep it for my ds just to get it too 200. (Another node farmer and 4 piece legion block) Good luck selling

[bold mason]

What hyper skills should I focus?

[frigid hamlet]

3 blast, one in hh cd and the other in divine charge extra strike

[bold mason]

Thanks

[vagrant axle]

A2S server. There's barely any chaos at all in TS.

Really should have started NA server back when I started to play again lol

[vagrant axle]

Thanks I'll check in there

[dire hare]

What's the best ways to increase BA stat if my gear emblems are mainly cd? Should I be replacing and trying to balance them with BA instead

[dire hare]

Should I try to balance my emblems? Currently got 6 cd and 2 emblemless gears

[dire hare]

Yup. And shoulders

[worthy siren]

Where can i find the a2s telegram TS?

[vagrant axle]

Guys. Any tips/recommenddations for these on my paladin? And what should be my 12th?

Paladin 2% BA
Evan 4% BA
D slayer 4% BA
Kinesis 4% CD
Phantom 4% CD
Xenon 4% FD
Cadena 4% FD
Sia 2% FD
D avenger 4% P.dmg
Kaiser 4% HP
Mercedes 4% EXP

[vagrant axle]

Wish I could have that many links lol.

But the list I mentioned is good? If so, can add 1 more. Not sure which one

[vagrant axle]

So my paladin link is always active on my paladin regardless and won't take 1 of the 12 slots?

Without him and kin & phantom I could do all 4 resistance and it looks like this:

Evan 4% BA
D slayer 4% BA
Xenon 4% FD
Cadena 4% FD
Sia 2% FD
D avenger 4% P.dmg
Kaiser 4% HP
Mercedes 4% EXP
Resistence x4 = 8% EXP

[vagrant axle]

That's cool, thats like 3 free link basically haha. Thanks!

Rest of the list looks fine?

[unreal yacht]

I noticed Echo only does these trio. Blast, final attack and divine judgement/mark. Is that all needed?

If yes, i will rework my trios focusing these only

Rn mine adds the 3rd job attack skills as well

[unreal yacht]

To one hit mobs LMAO

[vagrant axle]

To 1hit mobs you should improve weapon/gear I think.
Nodes are too scarce to not focus on boss boost nodes and v skills. Imo that is

[vagrant axle]

Anyone knows what causes my Paladin to die occasionally despite sacrosanctity being active?
Last night in Hmag I died while sacro was active.. thought the skill gave full invincibility 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tranquil python]

Either buff ran out or buff didn't activate quick enough to block the lethal dmg

Kinda like impenetrable skin

It's timing to block dot is different than blocking the incoming dmg

Since Magnus dot is applied first , then DMG, then knock back for spin

[vagrant axle]

Its was at 21s left when I died so I doubt it wasnt activated yet/ran out.

There's shouldnt be any other reason to die when its activated at least right?
Ill try recording some runs to see if it happens again

[vagrant axle]

It just happened again. I had 7 seconds sanct left and Hmags purple beam thing attack smoked me regardless.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[muted trench]

got the vid?

[muted trench]

do you have bleed stacks? if you have bleed stacks before you activate sancro, they still stay. any DOT prior to sancro stays until DOT goes away or is removed

[vagrant axle]

Don't think that's it as it was an instant right when hmag did the attack. Didn't record (forgot) but will do zo next run and share it. (If it happens again)

[unreal yacht]

I know exactly what u mean. It happened to me when i activated sacro but died. But thats not in hmag. But lotus LOL.
That lotus electric container and knockback op

[vagrant axle]

Either skill is bugged then or description need to be altered to state that certain dmg will in fact harm you.

When I record I'll share. If it happens to you more often, please do the same so its less likely just an incident and Nexon can look at it.

[blissful socket]

how does echo actually work ? it gives FDs and ADI to ur partner right ? what about ourself ?

also what’s the best scenario to link with ? highest line class / highest mdc or it don’t matter

[muted trench]

I think it’s:

1. Highest line count/highest mdc
2. Highest MDC
3. Highest Line Count

[muted trench]

read the skill description as 3 sections

[dire hare]

If im doing 8 cd emblems, what's the ideal BA I should be looking at having before buffs?

[iron pilot]

You’ll want to match your p.dmg

With Pala’s natural p.dmg skill buffs, that’s about 100%+ pre-food buffs

[dire hare]

So I need to use flames, souls and foods to make up this 100%

[dire hare]

🤦‍♂️

Props for y'all remembering things so easily. So I need to increase BA by 100% using m label/souls/links/food

[vagrant axle]

Curious. Why do we want to have our BA to match our p.dmg? 🧐

[wary dragon]

Anyone have weapon recs for new paladin player? Hammer or sword what’s the difference?

What kind of emblem is good for paladin

[lilac kiln]

hamm, sword market is bad, cd emblem

[inland vortex]

Shame there’s no animation difference for swords… I wonder if mihile gets released, will it share the same weapon?

[wary dragon]

Jaihin sword sf 0, price at 100mil, Jaihin hammer sf 0 price at 1 mil… can someone explain the difference?

Or it is just scam for the Jaihin sword

Both are unemblem and lowest price in NA scania

[muted trench]

mihile is the other 1h class yeah

Hammers are popular since Paladin release and reinforced popularity since DS release. Nobody knows when and if Mihile will be released to GMSM so 1H has a lower resale value since it's locked to 1 class atm

[frigid hamlet]

Props to all my fellow sword wielders. We lost the sword animation with the pally rework. I was a sword and shield user back in pre big bang gms days. Ngl, I do miss the old sword animation tho.

[frigid hamlet]

Yea, from what I can tell most servers don’t have many swords

[quiet ether]

I’d gladly take a sword and sell my hammer if I could find a sword with mdc

[sly ocean]

Guys, where can I find a proper guide for paladins v matrix skills?!

[vagrant axle]

Check the pins in here

[remote condor]

Can someone share pre 200 ab wheel ? @shut bison by any chance u can help out ?

[shut bison]

Pre 170 just heavens hammer and divine charge, add in smite once you hit 170

[indigo robin]

For Hyper passive skill.. I've got one point in Heaven Hammer's cooldown, what should I use the other point for.. is reinforce better or extra strike?

oh

so 3 points go to blast right

1 go to cooldown cutter

what do i use the last point for then

divine charge?

oh

ohh ok mb

[remote condor]

Thanks @k

[fringe cedar]

What is a good AB skill setup for pallys?

Just started up playing again here is my set up so far ; lmk what I should work on trying to get pens set at the moment

[lilac kiln]

Don't better with pens, focus on jai wep, musp hat (czak later) and grand glove, rest optional. skill wheel preset div charg w/ heav hamm or blast w/ heav hamm if not 1-2 hit

[latent fern]

Go with pens set, realistically doing any bosses at this stage is out of question. It’s easy to get daily Carries etc. the pens will help with lvling which will be a big factor and motivator that you should aim for if you don’t plan on spending money, and as paladin your needed for support, so your gear doesn’t matter for dps as much

[fringe cedar]

Thank you both! Will take those into consideration

[viscid lynx]

do you really use divine charge and heavens hammer for auto battling in late levels? isn't blast better

[vagrant axle]

Devine clears really fast and has good rang also. Easily kills mobs 1 platform up and all thebway to the edge of the screen when doing dungeons etc.

[candid wraith]

Is there a recommended order for hyper passives while lvling alt? Like hammer cdr first etc

I saw which ones in the pin

[indigo robin]

for leveling

hammer cooldown is definitely first, then divine charge second

if you're new like me, the upgrade to blast wont make that much difference cause you'll be getting carried through everything anyway

[fringe cedar]

Type B skills set goes left to right or right to left?

For AB

[viscid lynx]

So I should use divine charge and heavens hammer on auto battle when training at sf as a 180 pally as long as I’m 1-2 hitting the mobs with divine charge right

[fringe cedar]

Should I worry about getting an L weapon later and focus on getting L equip first or do weapon to be able to kill certain mobs for awhile?

[latent fern]

Do weapon

[dire hare]

Always focus weapon first. But I suggest working on making sure your eq are about 18-20 sf before upgrading because repairing broken eq from legend onward is tougher and expensive

[fringe cedar]

For sure and yeah I should have thought of that! Was able to get up to sf 16 on L weap but as you mentioned, scary 😩

Outside of mesos treasure and the guild acitivity Sha(something) is that the only way to get secondary weapon? Outside of trade as well

[dire hare]

Yup culvert is the only way

[weary quiver]

whats the paladin tricor

[vagrant axle]

Check pinned messages 🙂

[weary quiver]

Saw it Kekw thanks

[wary dragon]

Wondering what are the link skill you recommend for pally?

[unreal yacht]

Man. I followed Echo node builds. Perfection.

Even nearly maxing common V skills. Solid 10/10 there

[dire hare]

Got the link to it?

[wanton patrol]

What’s the ideal BACD set for pally?

[vagrant axle]

Emblems? 2/6 or 4/4 are viable,, but for endgame people say full CD is the way to go now.

[wanton patrol]

Yup, alrights thank you!

[vapid axle]

Just joined the pala crew. I hope I’m doing things right with minimal investment

[barren lava]

Welcome!

If that’s your grinding wheel, you don’t need both blast and divine charge on there

[vapid axle]

Just blast, then?

[barren lava]

Use divine charge if you can 1-2 hit mobs

Blast if it takes 3+ hits

But tbh I used blast until like lvl 208 because I was weak 😂

[vapid axle]

Im at sf142 at lv127 using 2 hits with blast but multiple hits with divine charge. Could it be because of my passive?

[barren lava]

Weapon makes the most difference

[fringe cedar]

Dam started not too long ago and you got gears up to sf 144 already oof

Stuck at 105 lol

[vapid axle]

I have a main which i’ve been playing for very long 😂

[iron pilot]

Any pallys noticing a drop in SC score? Since Lan Lan Cat patch

[shut bison]

Yes

[iron pilot]

Right? It’s like a 2-3k drop out of nowhere

[exotic radish]

Patch notes mentioned smth like lowkey like attacks with large hitboxes have extremely high skill damage applied inside guild battle dungeon aka SC, Guild Dungeon, Guild Honor Battle, Guild Fort and Cross World Elite Battle

However it was very vague as to which classes are affected

So far 2 classes affected are Paladin and Night Walker

[shut bison]

Aw what it was intentional? Man I thought it was a bug. Lame

[iron pilot]

Ah okay. Thanks for this

[exotic radish]

Damn

[rugged bridge]

What skill on i should level 1st on level 100?

[heavy tinsel]

My divine charge doesn't do any damage. What am I doing wrong?

[barren lava]

weapon?

[heavy tinsel]

I am using a hammer

[barren lava]

what hammer

and you can always use blast as well if divine charge is not hitting hard enough to 1-2 hit mobs

[barren lava]

yep so main thing to focus on is weapon

getting a lvl 30 mythic hammer will last you a long time until you work on a CD emblem weapon

[heavy tinsel]

Ok ty

[plush whale]

Hello! Should I upgrade and use my unique PBA with emblem (Mag Atk) Jaihin Hammer? or should I rather sell it and buy a clean one with Crit Damage emblem Jaihin hammer ?

I got lucky (kinda)

[vapid axle]

Divine charge or blast better for mobbing? Looking to add hyper skills

[lilac kiln]

sell

[lilac kiln]

div char hits 6 mobs but if you cannot 1-3 shot, blast would be better.

[vapid axle]

div’s hyper makes it from 6hits to 9hits, that sounds like a game-changer?

[lilac kiln]

doesn't matter if you still can't kill it fast enough

just blast x3 heav hamm cd div char extra hit last

[vapid axle]

As in the one divine charge does 9x damage

[vapid axle]

But im going with this

[vapid axle]

Oh its the target count? Not hit count?

[sly ocean]

What's the hyper stats priority for paladins?! Can't find any pinned msgs related to this

[sly ocean]

Additional dmg, is the skill damage?! Last skill in line?!

[sly ocean]

Is "Deals additional skill DMG upon attacking" is what you mean?!

[scenic warren]

Anyone wanna share your solo ark method?

Saw echos but he just melts it

[unreal yacht]

Dont activate sacro immediately. To me. Activate your echo first to burst him. As he activates his first DR, stun him. This allows u to buy more time to further burst him without u sacrificing sacro yet. Until when he is about to cast his first crack, immediately use sacro

But for my case i utilize impenetrable skin first as i manage to burst him enough to allow him to use his first screen crack before DR

so after that i use sacro to push as much as i can before it runs out

Since my impenetrable skin is about 60s cooldown and guardian is 60s cooldown, i tend to abuse those two skills often now

So infact i dont exactly die from screen crack since my sacro covers 2 screen cracks minimum.

[barren lava]

Thanks for the tips! What’s y’all’s stats looking like if you don’t mind me asking?

[scenic warren]

Thanks for the info

[proven sapphire]

Hi guys, any idea what's the best stat for a necro belt now? is it accuracy or still cr?

[remote condor]

Lf> unique emb cd jaihin hammer

[weary quiver]

LF> tradeable mythic agres 1hs . A2S

[proven arrow]

It’s always accuracy.

[sharp swan]

Hyper skills for pally?

[fringe cedar]

#1059990734981308436 message

That didnt work new disc update trash check pinned message

[primal lava]

Anyone else getting a bug with Echo? Sometimes when I activate my skills via preset, Echo gives me a cooldown but no buff 🤷‍♂️

[remote condor]

Anyone selling unique cd emb jaihin hammer ?

[primal lava]

not yet, i've only experienced it a few times doing ark or magnus

will try and get one at some point

[scenic warren]

I noticed this yesterday, manually buffed and it went away

[weary quiver]

How to counter mulung floor 37/38/39/40 ? Anywhere I can see boss mechanics

[unreal yacht]

It means you are not utilizing your dash / charge skill more often.

I am assuming. You are that player. Stand still and hit bosses

[weary quiver]

I mean I do try and dash, just needed to know where can I refer to for the boss skills and how to avoid getting hit

[rugged barn]

Hammer or sword better?

Looking to get a jaihin version with CD emblem soln

Soon

[tame thunder]

Stat wise they're identical. But some people prefer hammer since DS use them too, so more options if you need to sell.

[muted trench]

#1059990734981308436 message

[scenic warren]

Look up echomsm videos, he’s pretty thorough

[unreal yacht]

Mihile will eventually be released. So one hand sword will have another option too

[weary quiver]

Thanks bro

[rugged barn]

Where to go from here other than CD weapon?

To get lvl 40 exalt?

[viscid lynx]

What do I put my hyper stats into as a paladin? I have a few 100m discount tickets to burn lol have not assigned any hyper stats yet at all and I’m lvl 191, mostly f2p.

[tame thunder]

FD first then additional skill damage

After that I think it's PDI and eventually when you're hitting cap it'll be mdc.

[primal lava]

i was experimenting with this and as long as i have echo as its own skill and the rest on a preset it works fine... very odd 🤷‍♂️

[scenic warren]

It only happened that one time for me

[tame thunder]

For the recommended preset setups I see a lot of people using something like this:

Is that becuase we want the weapon aura and the crit dmg buff on at the same time as divine echo?

Is it okay to just put those buffs on pets?

That makes things a lot easier! Thanks lol

[weary quiver]

How do I use divine echo …

Feels like a failed pala

[unreal yacht]

What do you mean how do you use divine echo.

[weary quiver]

Nvm found a way d haha

Need to click the persons name

[limber yarrow]

Whats up guys, nobody find the patch notes from the 4th V skill on Korea server? I see some patchs for other classes

Just wanting to see whats coming in our future

[elder sable]

New paladin here, how do prevent dying in autobattle other than buying loads of potions? I thought paladins are supposed to be tanky 😅 maybe im just too used to buccaneer not using any potions

[limber yarrow]

Gear proper equipment for SF you want to be

Because most of the paladin want to be at SF194 but they cant kill the mobs

So start looking for a nice weapon and equip sacro in your pet

[shut bison]

Try using blast for AB instead of divine charge until you’re stronger

[muted trench]

show gear and where you trying to AB in

[elder sable]

Currently at SF113 robo area

[primal lava]

very tanky at 200+ with sancro and blitz shield for sure, but to echo what the other guy said its very much equipment and level based

[primal lava]

definitely need to get some better gear, max lvl uniques at minimum are good enough up to sf130-133~

[weary quiver]

Like what Kai said, try using blast instead

[elder sable]

Thanks guys been working great after swapping to blast and getting unique gears

[lyric sage]

Sf144 still good for meso amd exp?

[barren lava]

yes

[lyric sage]

okay thanks

[barren lava]

np

[lyric sage]

for paladin hyper pasive still the same with the pinned one?

[primal lava]

the 3 blast ones 100%,

then i went for divine charge reinforce instead of heaven hammer cooldown

but the blast ones are the 3 ones u 100% need @lyric sage

[barren lava]

whaaat

HH cooldown was the very first thing i got

[blissful sierra]

Same

Anyone have a video of the V4 skill?

Heard it launched in kmsm

[barren lava]

https://youtu.be/mno5NDRmbN0?si=5pucKkQCT_cQXZlh

heres the pc one

https://youtu.be/BH23kExCVSk?si=zx4KrAaIFgIXieGI&t=42

for comparison

[blissful sierra]

Seems a bit underwhelming? What do you think

[barren lava]

personally i liked it

hell, i really liked the spinning hammers around us

[blissful sierra]

Animation is great

The damage

[barren lava]

yeah lol i'm not too big into bossing right now

so i'm looking forward to it for farming

[blissful sierra]

Same

See you in 7 months

[barren lava]

what clas are you playing now?

[blissful sierra]

None really, I just charge AB and farm mesos

Just chilling on the game

[barren lava]

oh i see i see

[primal lava]

its useless in bossing and i kill stuff plenty fast enough with divine charge

[barren lava]

Agreed on useless in bossing but I definitely felt like HH cooldown made a bigger difference farming wise especially early on

[primal lava]

hmm early on its probably more useful youre right

[barren lava]

yeah when i started i relied oh HH lmao

love that skill

[shut bison]

Heavens hammer used to have a boss attack bonus. We used it on a preset with blast when we were bossing lmao

[rugged bridge]

What do i increase after FD on hyper stat?

[wispy cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-x28e4k7s&t=870s

You can follow this version

Is more detailed with all the actual stats rundown at lvl 30

[barren lava]

Thanks!

[lyric sage]

Noted

[shut bison]

Haha I’ve heard that. If only I was capping back then.

[lyric sage]

I can upgrade my armor to legendary which part should i rank up first?

[blazing violet]

Hey guys should I fuse this weapon to legend or add emblem scroll to it ?

[lyric sage]

okayy thanks

[scenic warren]

Buy finished, saves you mesos in the long run

[weary quiver]

Guys what’s the cd ba ratio for paladin

[worthy siren]

7/0

[weary quiver]

Ew hahahah

Too exp 🤣🤣

[sly ocean]

What's skill link priority for paladins?! After the new class releases have their been changes?!

[sly ocean]

Where can I find info though, I sort of am a noob

[sly ocean]

FD is Fever Duration or Final Damage?!

[primal lava]

final dmg

[rugged barn]

For bossing, should I invest in a briser CD emblem or just stick with Jaihin?

[muted trench]

jaihin has most gains for bossing

[dire hare]

Anyway for us to increase pa quickly? I managed to change my weapon soul from potent to mdc but it turns out the PA gained was what helped me reach my mdc. Now I'm doing significantly less dmg than previously 🫠

[blissful sierra]

Level up decent nodes if you're whale. Impenetrable skin also gives some DMG % if you haven't leveled that up yet

[dire hare]

I havent maxed v skills yet so dont think it's ideal

[blissful sierra]

You edited your message 3 times 😅

[dire hare]

Yea mb 😅

[blissful sierra]

What's your current PA

Try possibly upgrading flames, though those won't give %

[dire hare]

35.8k. Mdc is at 16.2m

Been hitting cap often I kept finding new ways to increase mdc. But now without the potent soul my dmg is way below cap. Unless eating buffs is the quick fix solution 😅

[primal lava]

just leveling your arcane symbols, i got a big boost after lvl 215... then flames as mentioned already... 2 line flame on android with good rolls is an easy 1k attack... m pets if not alredy

[primal lava]

i dont think that 15%-20% from potent is that big of a boost tbh... it could be youre also lacking enough CD or BA

[dire hare]

Oh I'm aware of my lack of BA and CD. Working on those concurrently but it was sufficient previously to cap my dmg when it was 14.9m. I'll test it out more tonight and see if there is a substantial difference even after food buffs during my boss run but just wanted to see if there was anything else I could do

[primal lava]

more cap needs more dmg 😎 i also dont cap at 16.7m without buffing even on chaos bosses, and i'm 41k atk, so dont sweat it

its just a mix of everything tbh

always hard to pinpoint one exact cause when there could be many

[dire hare]

Wtf 41k. How the hell did you get so high 🤣

[primal lava]

41k is nothing compared to a lot of whales haha

[dire hare]

It felt nice to be finally capping dmg

So kinda sucks that it dropped

[dire hare]

I'm not even near that. 🥲

[dire hare]

Each symbol only gives max 1.8k pa right? For flames should I be making all flames that have PA option geared toward that?

[primal lava]

flames are very build dependant, a lot of my guildmates are moving away from exp based flames to boss atk based

but i have a lot of PA to exp flames currently

all 2 line on the ones that give PA

[dire hare]

I'm using a BA jewel set cause someone told me to the last time, but my BA is low and the PA it carries over isn't exactly the best as compared to Exp. I was actually considering switching flames to exp 😅

[blazing violet]

Is this worth to get for pally ?

[torn wagon]

No this is not good donnt buy

[blazing violet]

Ok thanks

[limber yarrow]

You can felt bad about it, but just increasing your cap is a gain

[dire hare]

I'm good now, turns out with full buff I'm hitting the new cap 😆

[limber yarrow]

Can you share your stats?

I can help you out a little bit

[dire hare]

Just pmed you. Thanks!

[tame thunder]

About to hit 210 and I’ll have an open slot for a decent node, which should I craft/slot in first?

[tame thunder]

Ty!

[limber smelt]

how do i survive btr in sf194?

[topaz laurel]

you have ra top and bottom?

[limber smelt]

Yea, here's my current setup

I guess legendary boss helm and belt will solve the issue? 😅

[lilac kiln]

put only blast on skill wheel and what hp pots you using?

[limber smelt]

v7 or v8

[lilac kiln]

try v8, 70%

or 90%

[limber smelt]

Always at 90%

[old moon]

you need to change that epic necklace, upgrade to cpb, hat could be mythic muspell if you cant get the leg zak helm. For SF194 always V9 90%

[lilac kiln]

just a tip you might want to remake your gloves

[old moon]

yes

mythic cd gloves, grand agres i think

you can try and fuse your current gloves and hope you get the cd one or start over and remake entirely

[limber smelt]

So chaos ht and ht necklace?

[old moon]

He did ask what he can do to better survive sf194. What would be “helpful” for him then lol

[primal lava]

194 can hit hard even with full mythic lvl 40.. i had a net deficit of potions even using v8

big boy potions on 70/90% is definitely the answer, but will probably use half of the mesos you make from ab'ing there

[neon island]

Is there any difference between using a 1H Sword or 1H Hammer?

[primal lava]

no

but hammer is more sellable

used for DS as well as Pala

[neon island]

Alright. Another question, are Fafnir weapons worth getting until you can net a decent emblem weapon?

[minor remnant]

Is a mythic emblem pba wep enuf for sf144 with unique armour set?? Ill slightly be below 10k atk

[primal lava]

this

fast kills means less time for them to hit you

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[minor remnant]

I still get hit for 4.7-5.3k takes 3hits wjth blast to kill em

[minor remnant]

Thts my plan on getting next

[muted trench]

@oblique dagger in here

[oblique dagger]

Love you bro

[frigid hamlet]

Forgot to post this here a few days ago… man what a great feeling to finally get this to 50

[nova mist]

Gratz! Waiting for that video xD

[frigid hamlet]

I forgot to record lol 😂

[sly ocean]

After maxing Hyper stats: FD and Additional Damage, what to max next?!

[primal lava]

Either max damage cap or phy dmg

depends on how hard you hit

[sly ocean]

Not very hard, and still miss alot

[topaz laurel]

what's order of importance to max post 200. After echo is maxed

[primal lava]

V skills? V1>v3>v2

[sly ocean]

My phy dmg is also max

Not sure what Hyper Stat to increase next, Final dmg, Additional dmg, and phy dmg are maxed

[primal lava]

Oh hypers start at 140? Uhm then max dmg cap

Only after lvl 220 then you go for BA or CD

[sly ocean]

Upgrade how?!

Buy from trade market u mean?

[topaz laurel]

post 200

[shut bison]

What’s on your preset with blast

[shut bison]

You’ll score higher in GD if you use only blast

Noble demand takes a while to cast and doesn’t do much for you in there

[topaz laurel]

sounds good!

[shut bison]

Did u RR from blaster???

[topaz laurel]

yes!

[shut bison]

Welcome to the dark side

[topaz laurel]

it's fun over here

[minor remnant]

Jaihan vs lionheart both ar cd which is betyer?

Better

[topaz laurel]

absolutely unplayable

it's doing like 10k-12k lines per 3 mins

hitting the same at lvl 200 on this pally

[oblique dagger]

What is this pally bug?

[shut bison]

Wdym

[oblique dagger]

Idk I read up the comments and see mentions of a bug. I’m only lvl 177 so I’m still noob

[lilac kiln]

Irrelevant

[shut bison]

Bug was patched right away sadly

[uneven trench]

no difference for damage
blunt weapon shared with demon slayer, one handed sword shared with an unreleased class called mihile

[muted trench]

Training Wheel

• if can 1-2 shot - Heavens Hammer, Divine Charge, Smite Shield
• if weak - Blast

if weak and blast can't 1-2 shot and you have trouble surviving sure

[sly ocean]

Would a red emblem Jaihan wrapon be better than the current weapon I have damage wise?!

[sly ocean]

Stats of hammer

[frigid hamlet]

My set up

Bottom two

But what @muted trench said is facts

[uneven trench]

thoughts on erda shower for mobbing

[muted trench]

I personally think training nodes are hh, divine mark/judgement, divine charge

And yeah i know it overlaps with bossing nodes

[leaden pecan]

I'm confused on the best trio for boost nodes.

I'm aware of the 3 skills but unsure of the usage.
-Final Attack
-Blast
-Divine Judgement/Divine Mark

What skills are under divine judgement or divine mark? how do we craft it?

[ivory sundial]

[frigid hamlet]

Divine mark and judgment are essentially the same but applied differently for blast and divine charge.

It’s randomly crafted when you open nodes

[eternal pike]

Anybody that can help me on what to change first to get stronger bit stuck on what to do and get

I know I need to find a hat but beside that

Currently running full exp because of lack on boss drops

[shut bison]

Max out your V1 and level up your emblems

[eternal pike]

Ty

[oblique dagger]

How much you think I can sell this for? I got another hammer from a fuse and want to get rid of this. Na Scan

I saw uniques being listed for 2.7b range

[old moon]

if uniques are around 2.7, this should be around 3

leg is not that much more expensive than uniques

[oblique dagger]

Thanks!

[topaz laurel]

should I prioritize slot enhancement points on hammers or v3?

[shut bison]

V3

[sly ocean]

Any guide around for setting up Legion grid for AB?!

[uneven trench]

Exp

[ivory sundial]

how to unlock exp grid?

[uneven trench]

have more characters

[ivory sundial]

i mean, do you need to fill out the first boxes in order for it to light up? mine is grayed out

[uneven trench]

no, you can do a straight line from the centre without totally filling out the inner box

[tame thunder]

They unlock row by row as you get higher legion.

[minor remnant]

Thts really helpful I didn’t know that thanks

[pale prairie]

Anyone have skill descriptions or a video of pally vskills? Trying to decide between dw or pally after koc remaster

[muted trench]

https://grandislibrary.com/explorers/paladin

gmsm stats are somewhere in this channel. just need to search it up

[ivory sundial]

Ooohhh oki thank youuu!

[ivory sundial]

Noteed, thank youu!

[indigo robin]

is the only difference between lvl 1 and 30 V1 skill just longer duration?

[primal lava]

With v1 I believe so yes

But that’s a huge dps increase tbh at lvl 30

[uneven trench]

Echo is the most op spell in paladin toolkit

[indigo robin]

ya its definitely really nice

[manic bay]

Hey everyone, is paladin a good class to start and fund or another warrior ?

[uneven trench]

Paladin always good

[primal lava]

Yes

[minor remnant]

Great class dmg mobbing and support

Im maining pally on my f2p account and he does more dmg than my adelle thr ivr spent money on

Hes pretty good even pre 170

Adelle prolly shines 170+ ive yet to hit tht though currently 164

[manic bay]

Nice thank you!

[ivory sundial]

What they said. One of the best f2p classes imo too

[primal lava]

Not to mention, even if youre not dealing big damage, you're a very useful support class with stuns, iframes and echo (EDIT: and res)

[oblique dagger]

Survivability is chefs kissss

[pastel kettle]

my pally now lets go

[oblique dagger]

Damn bro lvl 166 with all that?? That’s amazing!

[pastel kettle]

i cut all my spare stuff over

only thing i havent cut is my sf12 pdi sw

[oblique dagger]

Is pensalir gear the way to go or that’s just for levelling?

[pastel kettle]

if u go budget route

chaos full set will do more dmg than full necro

due to mdc

but at the same time u limit yourself already

once those necro peeps go full abso

u lack behind again

but the good thing is pen set give 10% exp + some base exp %

u win in leveling speed

but if lvl is no certain like when everyone is 230 240 ish

then pen set not the way to go

if u do bossing

since absolab for sure more meta

in my case i just want to hit 200 faster first to unlock v skills

after that 210 215 220

to unlock more v slots

more slot means more dmg

[oblique dagger]

Ahhh gotcha. I’ll prob spend my resources of damage gear with emblems then

And work on some legendary pensalir to wear when abing

[pastel kettle]

u pick either u do high dmg in general or u farm more exp

i making both sets

the pen stuff i diy

because no one selling

i just exalt my own and inherit it

atm i am also doing necro shoe

hoping for it to pass every month 1 try haha

[oblique dagger]

As a beginner should I be looking at going necro for weapon and inherit for gear?

Good luck haha

[pastel kettle]

it depends on your budget

[pastel kettle]

thanks

rn necro still expensive

so i dont want to buy it unless its below market price

some ppl sell cheap is because 0-2cuts left

but those u dont wan to buy unless u wan to bear the burden of reselling it

else it will stick with u many yrs to come

another way is just to mix and match buy whatever comes along cheap

and ignore the set bonus

u just rely purely on raw stats

and mdc

forgo 5 or 7 pcs bonus

go for 2 - 3 pcs bonus

[minor remnant]

For hyper stat first do we go final damager first?

[simple mural]

Did you rr from Adele?

[pastel kettle]

not direct rr

i still have dps gears on my adele

still maintaining the stats n dmg there

just slow down on the progression

since the next step now is to exalt n necro stuff

necro for armors havent passed a single one

4% no luk heh

mean while i progress on another char

with extra set of gears

[simple mural]

I see, I went back to my paladin after a while

[pastel kettle]

well i still just level for legion

and do guild contents first

while another char lvl to 200 to catch up first

i only slow down lvling speed

since the ab tix running out

because in the long run u gonna lvl char to 200s anyway for legion

also to unlock v1-4 to clear ced all these faster

and if they run CRA on their own is a plus to sell the 1 set of RA stuff for profit

[neon island]

Bonic, made a lot of sense, really really fast. I appreciate you sharing that with the rest of the class.

[pastel kettle]

[simple mural]

Ayyy just got my paladin to 200

[peak abyss]

What's the bis for pally? Do i use agrares for EVD or eclectic for crit atk

[oblique dagger]

Selling dm me pls 🙂

[oblique dagger]

Bis is same for all classes if I’m not mistaken. Sometimes ppl will go for evd for survivability

[peak abyss]

Where to check which equipment is bis?

[oblique dagger]

There’s a few posts on Reddit and it may be pinned in this server somewhere but not sure. I’m out atm so I can’t link it to you but they’re everywhere

[peak abyss]

Thanks

[tame thunder]

It’s in the msm-game-help pins

[indigo robin]

I dont get how final atk boost node is good..

It does like no dmg for me

[uneven trench]

yeah

it's bad

[primal lava]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[indigo robin]

Is it meant to be good though..?

The Final attack skill does less than 1% of my total damage when I test at the training ground

[uneven trench]

It is the 3rd best bossing node

So

Yes you want it

[tame thunder]

Yeah I think it's moreso just that there isn't a better option for bossing.

[frigid hamlet]

2 more to go

[unborn prawn]

https://threesnailsmsm.com/progression/equipment/

[topaz laurel]

https://youtu.be/zcwBlc2D7_U?si=SUEw7fkSUOCfYNoR

some normal damien content

[snow crane]

Does it matter if I use one hand sword or the hammer?

[unborn prawn]

No, but hammer potentially easier to re-sell since DS can also use it

[shut bison]

BEAST

[sly ocean]

What 2nd character your leveling to 200? And why?

[limber smelt]

How do I know when to use 3x lvl 20 tricore or 2x lvl25 + 5 slots enhancement?

[shut bison]

When you have enough matrix points for 2x

5 matrix points for echo is a must, then you need ten more on top of that

[leaden pecan]

My first ever necro!

[fallow parcel]

hello. can i check what to add for paladin hyper skills?

[uneven trench]

3 blast hh cd divine charge extra line

[fallow parcel]

thank you!

any chance if you could also share your skill wheel for AB and bossing? thank you!

[fallow parcel]

how many try?

[uneven trench]

Bossing is just blast spam

And your other utilities like stun and revive and v skill

AB is divine charge and heaven hammer and smite shield

[leaden pecan]

4 tries, i think i'm super lucky. I've crafted it with mastercraft scroll 2% + empress 2% = 4% sucess rate.

I had my ancient gloves suceed in 1 craft, also with scroll and empress.

[fallow parcel]

ok appreciate it!

[fallow parcel]

yes you’re indeed super lucky..i would just buy from TS hahaha

[fallow parcel]

hello, does anyone knows if the ranking criteria (novice, expert, master) for mulong is determined weekly based on your level?

i.e., i’m at level 150 on Monday and currently in Expert ranking, but if i were to level to 151, will they put me to Master during the same week?

Appreciate any two cents on this.

[pastel kettle]

it only counts the fresh attempt of lv1 to XX

so if u hit the next level category, u dont restart from lv1 to maintain ranking of previous

[fallow parcel]

ok thanks for sharing!

[green idol]

I see the pin but which photos are the bossing skill wheel and leveling? If someone can help me, thanks.

[tame thunder]

The last photo that just has the four skills is for AB, the other photos are for bossing.

[polar gazelle]

Whats the ideal node rn?

[frigid hamlet]

All of them

[polar gazelle]

Whats the ideal perfect node? Gonna pop some

[shut bison]

Any combination of divine mark/final attack/blast and divine mark/heavens hammer/divine charge

[dire olive]

I know whaling. Should I get top/btm and a muspell hat, and agares gloves?
Crap dmg, 8 BA, 1 wep is CD, 1 PA(boots) emblems

Is my level the issues with dmg and just need to get mythic and max level… me thinking emblems is what I want most, now loosing my mind

Also 7 boss jewelry set will come eventually.

[shut bison]

Most of your damage will come from nodes once you hit fifth job

[uneven trench]

your level is too low, all these gears dont matter and are just temporary until you are at least 200, if you want to whale just get necro and dont waste your money on useless emblemed legendaries, also you should get Phy dmg emblem for secondary weapon and have more CD emblems than BA emblems

probably can extract those legendaries for emblem trace i guess

[dreamy willow]

true either go ancient->chaos path or necro->abso path, good thing is that you can still level up your legendary gear all the way ancient

both ba and cd emblem works, no need to get obsessed to cd

[fallow parcel]

this is extra target or extra hit/strike?

[uneven trench]

extra hit

[fallow parcel]

thanks mate!

[fallow parcel]

is it worth to pay 600M more for a 10%EXP m label shoe that last through 360days?

[fallow parcel]

exalt to 40 > refine > choose between inherit or necro? is this the path?

[dreamy willow]

yes

[sly ocean]

What’s your attack power ?

[white ember]

Over 9000 probably with just weapon and secondary

[fallow parcel]

which hammer is better in the long run?

[uneven trench]

none, get one with mdc soul

[fallow parcel]

hahaha ok im currently using a CD emblem jaihin hammer. not sure if i should exalt and inherit/necro myself

[fallow parcel]

but if you really have to pick one? which then?

[fallow parcel]

any thoughts from the pros/seasoned players?

[primal lava]

if money if not a problem and you will make it 31sf with good 2l flame and lvl 5 emb

then CD one

[fallow parcel]

so CD still the way to go hmmm..

the CD one is sitting at 25b and the BA one is still at 40b hahaha..honestly it’s overpriced

[primal lava]

40b?? jesus

yeah nty

in europe at least thats ridiculous

[fallow parcel]

how much is it in europe?

10-15b?

[primal lava]

probably 20-25

im selling my hammer with 31sf, 2l leg flame, lvl 5 emb and mdc soul for ~30b

our market is dead though

[dreamy willow]

[calm spade]

Hi guys.

I have 5 slots for nodes

Whay should i use

Any tips

[dreamy willow]

First 2 in second row and your v skills

V1 v3 and ds4

[calm spade]

What is v skills v1 v3 and ds3

[dreamy willow]

These three

Most important skills for pally

[shut bison]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[shut bison]

@echo quartz can you pin this one?

[echo quartz]

yes can!

[calm spade]

Okay so the first 2 in second row, snd the other 3 you sent

Thanks!

[calm spade]

But Why do you want to lvl up the divine charge in nodes? Example second row node 1 and 2

[shut bison]

Those are boost nodes containing blast, final attack, and divine mark

[calm spade]

Okay thanks

What does divine mark do?

Dosen’t it only Get actibated when using diving charge

[uneven trench]

divine mark and divine judgment share the same node

[calm spade]

But the divine mark/judgement

What skill does it affect?

Isn’t it just used when using divine charge?

[uneven trench]

judgment triggers on blast

[calm spade]

Ohh

So on my hyper skills

What should i have chosen?

[shut bison]

Check pinned messages for hyper skills

[calm spade]

The pin is

hyper passives for paladin is

• blast x3
• divine charge extra strike
• heaven's hammer cooldown cutter

Why divine charge extra strike

If i never use it?

Only use blast and the heavens hammer one

[tame thunder]

Most people use divine charge for AB. If you're not killing enemies in 1-2 hits then it's recommended to use Blast for AB instead.

I would still put that hyper point into divine charge, because eventually you'll want to be using it for AB and that way you won't need to reset, but up to you put it where ever you find the most benefit.

[calm spade]

Okay thanks for all the help guys

[pastel kettle]

main selling point of that 40b one is tradeable + 0/7 and 0/3

its for people that are rich with multiple N40s building into N50

trying to absolab

u havent seen those people with absolab sets making absolab weapon have at least 2-3 N40s/50s ?

when u go to AF map for future grinding, necro wpn BA or CD dont matters if you have exp weapon

u are paladin already, CD gets more DR than BA

it make sense to have most of the armor emblems at CD than BA due to transferrable to other same class type but weapon u can only use for 2 class so CD/BA dont matter if you can find a good one

a2s hammer prices go up and down so it could be 25b to 50b

demand and supply

before KOC remaster the hammers were all at 35-40b

after koc remaster the price dropped due to insufficient mesos flowing around as everyone is hogging/building up for the megaburning events

[fallow parcel]

so not worth the bucks..? get one with CD stats?

[pastel kettle]

BA is always worth because its cheaper than CD

and if its on a necro wpn what u do with it? hit boss lmao

its not like inherit ancient where BA is rip for utgard

whether it's worth or not depends on the current market

and your needs

incoming new class

in few months

the price will shift once again

it will be either warrior or thief class

so glhf

[fallow parcel]

hmm i guess i will just get something that’s within my budget..whether BA or CD whichever price is cheaper

[pastel kettle]

yes

[fallow parcel]

for pensalir set..does it necessary need to have emblem? if yes, i guess CD emblem?

[primal lava]

depends on your plans, are you planning to use pensalir as exp set? or as your main set

if its your main set i'd say dont bother and get BIS gear with CD emb, for an exp set pensalir without emblem is not necessary

[fallow parcel]

i have my main set with BIS gear and CD emblem (except top and btm)..but i thought it’s necessary to get a pensalir set for exp reasons

[fallow parcel]

sorry just to be clear...do you mean dont need pensalir set at all if we have BIS gear?

[primal lava]

oh okay, if you're using Pensalir as an exp set then its still good to have, just dont necessarily need emblems

only if you want to flex 🤷‍♂️

[fallow parcel]

ok thank you!

[polar gazelle]

Mhm so like with all pensalir ancient doesnt it >100%?

[primal lava]

🤷‍♂️ dunno exact amounts

[polar gazelle]

All good, its just that i see it as 1-2% and doesnt seem right. Havent seen ancients 40+ tho so idk either

Appreciate it tho

[primal lava]

at lvl 40 ancient its a good amount i think

Or maybe not... dunno, I just have a mythic set 🤷‍♂️

[tame thunder]

It's not very good, ancient lvl 40 is:
Glove - 1.8%
Hat - 1.7%
Shoes - 1.7%
Shoulder - 1.4%
Outfit - 1.8%

Utgard Weapon - 18%

Ranking up to chaos is like 0.2% more (except weapon, 2% more)

The set bonus is good though, 5set bonus at ancient is 10% and 15% at chaos.

[fallow parcel]

what about cape and belt? is it pensalir cape and extreme belt or green buckle?

[fallow parcel]

do you use your mythic pensalir set in AF?

[primal lava]

Indeed af160 rn

[primal lava]

Cape is explorer, shoulder is knight

[fallow parcel]

what about belt?

[uneven trench]

sailor

[primal lava]

^ this, sailor set OP

#bot-commands message see this for exp boosts

[fallow parcel]

i see most of the high level using pensalir cape? i guess they prefer the meso increase rate more than the exp yield from explorer

[fallow parcel]

is the route of exp and pexp hyper stats for whales only?

[pastel kettle]

nah anyone can do it

doesnt cost much to do it unless u dun wanna spend a single cent

[fallow parcel]

any idea why people go for pensalir cape than explorer cape?

[pine kraken]

99% of the time people will have their auto battle gear on when you check and pensalir cape is part of the pensalir set which gives EXP as bonus

They will have a necro or absolab cape for bossing

[rugged barn]

How much would this go for?

[indigo robin]

probs not much since its not tradable

would be perfect project weap, if it was tradable

[gray shuttle]

Anyone care to share their presets for bossing and ab. Thanks in advance

[tame thunder]

AB:

Bossing:

For AB you can use blast if divine charge doesn't 1-2 shot. (and ignore upward charge, I use it when I feel like manually doing my daily hunts).

[gray shuttle]

Is that so you don’t need a spot for rope lift?

[tame thunder]

I still use rope lift, it doesn't need to be on your wheel to be used for AB. I just like upward charge better cause its faster when I'm manually playing.

[gray shuttle]

I meant for nodes

Thanks tho

[tame thunder]

I still have rope lift in my nodes

[gray shuttle]

Understood

[tame thunder]

Upward charge can't be used in auto battle so it's fine to leave it on the wheel

[gray shuttle]

Divine hammer just for abing?

[tame thunder]

Yeah I don't bother using it for bossing, just straight blast

Other people might feel differently tho idk

[devout knot]

is HP recovery cant be use in AB?

[shut bison]

No it can’t

[dreamy willow]

totally useless stats

[dire hare]

Nope u are 100% right. HH is ass for bossing but great for abing.

[fallow parcel]

hi everyone, may i get your view what node should i focus on? i have an experienced node but not sure which skill in particular that i should focus on..

[uneven trench]

echo

[fallow parcel]

ok thanks will max echo first

[polar gazelle]

V1, i think trio afterwards ?

[fallow parcel]

hi, what’s the use of matrix points?

[dire hare]

Gives additional levels to the skill. You should put into v1

[fallow parcel]

ok thanks!

[fallow parcel]

im at a crossroad if i should exalt my exp set or BIS set..all eqs are at mythic now..anyone can advise?

[dire hare]

Depends which has the emblem imo. If u don't have any I would focus on getting one which is tradeable among your chars (don't equip it) so u can move it already your alts if necessary to try and necro

[late gust]

Can someone take a ss of the description for v1 v2 and v3 skill. Thanks in advance (:

[fallow parcel]

they are all emblem and non-tradeable..

[dire hare]

All bis? If u prioritise bossing on your own, work on bossing gear first. If u have people to carry you, work on your exp gear I guess.

[fallow parcel]

ok will proceed to exalt and refine..

[indigo robin]

You have BIS emblems on both sets of BIS AND exp gears??

[fallow parcel]

yes sir

[indigo robin]

Must be nice to be rich

[fallow parcel]

do you let your pet buff echo skill during boss better? or remove it from pet before going into boss battle?

[copper bone]

hi guys, does anyone have echo's skill description?

[copper bone]

thank you so much!

[topaz laurel]

[weary quiver]

I normally remove , so I choose who to echo

[devout knot]

what hyper stat should paladin level?

[fallow parcel]

so you cast the skill and click on someone?

[topaz laurel]

choose someone before activating

[weary quiver]

This one, choose my clicking the name on the left

[fallow parcel]

thanks @weary quiver @topaz laurel

[worthy siren]

Make sure their name is highlighted in a purple border before pressing echo

[pastel kettle]

first solo clear lotus with 13m mdc

thx nexon for primal

[worthy siren]

Congratulations!!!

[fallow parcel]

how to hit so high damage? what’s your PA?

[pastel kettle]

30k+ pa

eat every buff u can use?

but it also differs from every individual's bossing experiences

u cannot simply replicate bare minimum requirement easily as compared to optimal minimum requirements

because every1 has different gear stats

[fallow parcel]

okkk thank you

[snow grotto]

Hi, i cannot see too clearly the trio nodes here. It is final attack, blast and heaven hammer?

[snow grotto]

Ok thank you! @dreamy willow

[river turret]

PDI or cri dmg emblem for secondary weapon?

[uneven trench]

Pdi

[river turret]

Thanks 😉

[sleek wing]

Hello everyone, Kinda new to the V matrix any suggestions to my setup? any prioritize or anything I should work on? Thanks in advance 🙏🏻

[topaz laurel]

max out echo first

[sleek wing]

Thank 🙏🏻 another thing, Why some people prefer to 3 trios skills and some prefer 2 trios skills?

[topaz laurel]

2 trios makes sense when ur a high level

[weary quiver]

3 trio is easier to hit , then you free up slot enhancement to your other skills

[unreal yacht]

Just focus on

1. Blast
2. Final Attack
   3+4. Divine Mark/Divine Judgement

This only requires 2 slots if u get them. And u enhance those slots. They will be level 60 in total

Example

Slot one perfect trio
Blast/final attack/divine mark+divine judgement
Slot two perfect trio
Final attack/Blast/divine mark+divine judgement

And the remaining slots will be your core V skills and warrior common v skills are a must. Impenetrable skin must be maxed out to give u 10% hp boost, 1,000 patk, 15% phy dmg boost, and most importantly, a solid 3 seconds iframe in addition to your 5 seconds guardian, and 30 seconds sacro.

Core v skills to focus on.

1. Echo
2. Guardian Cross
3. Inpenetrable skin
4. Weapon aura
5. Blitz shield
6. Hammer of righteousness

I was lucky to maxed out 2&3 during surprise store. Purchased exp nodes as soon it appears. Worth

Those are my bossing setup

As for training, since divine mark and divine judgement is in pair, not necessarily needed to get hunting trio

If your weapon is chaos rank, then its sufficient to farm

That is all.

Just to add from my description earlier.

[sleek wing]

@glass badger Thanks 🙏🏻

[indigo robin]

hey whats the duration on V1 when its lvl 30?

[uneven trench]

90

[modest pollen]

Any pre 200 skillwheels?

[pastel kettle]

no

[weary quiver]

Can 1 hit then divine charge + charge if cannot the Blast + charge
Then add in smite shield if you have unlocked it

That’s about it LOL

[sudden mantle]

Is this the correct node to equip

[topaz laurel]

divine charge needs to be swapped for blast

[orchid whale]

Looking for lvl 200 active paladin for bossing party. Doesn’t need to be strong . Must be active and progressing

[night rune]

When maxing out grand guardian or echo, does the skill % increase or is it just reduced cooldown?

[violet lichen]

Hi, question on paladin armour sets.
If I’m going inherit route and planning to only own 1 set of armours for both bossing and mobbing. Which set bonus should I go for?

1. Full Pensalir set 7Pcs
2. 5 Pensalir set Hat Glove CD

Is 30%CD > or < than 1000patk from 7 set Pensalir bonus?

[proven arrow]

2. Will be a better choice imo.
   As u can use both set for bossing and mobbing at the same time.

[calm spade]

Lvl 205 paladin in need of a good guild that i can join to do cra and such

Progressing player

[dire hare]

Post it in #msm-guild-board with your server instead of here my man. Not everyone sees class forums

[somber zealot]

Any one rerolling to Mihile when it drops? Why/why not😆

[worthy siren]

explorer classes will always remain strong against the test of time.

[worthy oracle]

Just started today. Is there a levelling guide pinned somewhere?

Also any difference between hammer and 2h sword other than hammer can be used by demon slayers

[nova mist]

Paladin is 1h sword or hammer.

[worthy oracle]

Ahhh pkay

Thanks tommy

One more question. For the skill allocation past lv100, is there a guide because I noticed I can't auto allocate anymore