One Shot Weapons - A mega thread discussion

[neon ledge]

i honestly think removing pocket reloading would stop so much camping

fights are just quick peak and shoot till one of your shots hit

so boring

pushing would actually be viable again

as ur not just gonna get beamed

[oblique zodiac]

exactly

[hot ferry]

remove all raiders's frontal lobes and break their hands

best idea yet

[glossy creek]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982987862653943829/1221171724234526751/image.gif

yo can we GENUINELY close this thread

[mossy night]

Yes

[mossy night]

If 1 taps get nerfed, remove RNG dmg / dmg drop over distance

[naive willow]

we have rng damage

huh

and dmg ddrop over distrance

[mossy night]

Yes i made a yap wall text abt it

https://discord.com/channels/412291659347263498/1430167306151137311

[oblique zodiac]

add bullet drop

[empty ether]

If 1 taps get nerfed, nerf automatics so they are still meta 🤑

[arctic apex]

Nerf pocket reloading

[empty ether]

Never

[arctic apex]

X-33 + Eggatron + musket + firework + 1 S

😭 🙏

[empty ether]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

-eggatron because I do not own

[arctic apex]

But you somehow have the musket??

[empty ether]

Yes

[arctic apex]

Holy moly

Chairman makes a BAG

[empty ether]

musket cheap

[arctic apex]

50 bucks for ONE roblox lego gun

AHEM AHEM 1S

[empty ether]

300 aud for musket

around that

[arctic apex]

Autos feel so useless after tryna weave and fake 5 ONE SHOTS

[empty ether]

Don’t even weave at this point

Run straight and true

[arctic apex]

By the time I weave some yall alr reloaded

[empty ether]

Take it like a man

Eat my musket

[arctic apex]

[empty ether]

No health boosters required

Leaves you on 0 health

[arctic apex]

The only reason I have 1S is cause of yall 😭 🙏

I got no armor

[empty ether]

What if I tank

🤑

[arctic apex]

🥀

Oh God..

If turkey re releases its over

Wraps

[empty ether]

Join raiders to find out!

[arctic apex]

Nothing is gonna kill yall

[empty ether]

Well

The others already have 170 hp and 800 armour

[arctic apex]

😭

Ain't a good day for any f2ps

Never was anyway

[empty ether]

https://tenor.com/view/royal-gold-shiny-money-money-bag-gif-23964319

Balanced

Why are embeds not working

[arctic apex]

Probably disabled in threads

[clever spire]

Ngl I'm used to OTS way more but uhm it would kind of ruin the theme of the game I think cus kinda classic and stuff
But uh NERF 1 TAPS
1 Taps ruin the game, there is no denying it, they are cancer
Sure you might say they lose value or something
IMAGINE how many people you have already lost from DoD because of their existence
No backpack reloading + charge up time for 1S to reach max damage (should be 6 seconds 🤬 ) and charge ups for other 1 taps
1 taps are the root cause of this game's problems, they need to be fixed, there is no workaround

1 taps are very annoying

[gleaming spear]

charge ups would suck

i dont wanna hold lmb for 6 seconds to shoot my gun at its full potential

removing backpack reloading should solve pop shooting 😢

[clever spire]

Mostly yeah I agree

[clever spire]

Maybe they could increase the max damage output

To compensate for it

But for 1s I think it would be

A good idea

Or at least a shorter charge up

Keep in mind it would still do wild damage

Without being fully charged up

[calm ridge]

Or make it so armor matters more for one shot weapons and are weaker to auto ones, basically a triangle where one shot weapons are weak to shields and armor, shield and armors are weak to auto weapons and auto weapons are weak to one shot* weapons, maybe it would help, but it would still transform the game significantly.

-# *As in, auto weapons are weak in terms of range, therefore, it would still be extremely difficult and innefficient to just run at snipers with 5 one shot weapons like maniacs.

[clever spire]

Headshots would still exist
Armor doesn't do a lot about headshots
That's how pistol 1 taps become 1 taps mostly

[calm ridge]

Oh yeah, headshots would still completely obliterate anything, armor or not.

But I still believe someone with a full metal armor that's even LABELED as "dew level protection" should be able to tank a non headshot shot from a 1S or any other one shot weapons.

And if we implement the 1s charge-up, it should be able to tank (even if the target is left with extremely low health) an incomplete charged shot.

Oh, also, it's dumb from a game design perspective that it's not much rewarding to hit a headshot with a one shot weapons such as the 1s since either way it will one shot the target no matter the precision of the shot.

[clever spire]

true true
But that's just 1S
Titanium non headshot hits aren't that bad for other DEWS

[clever spire]

You are right, I agree

1S is one of the main problems

Probably the biggest

When it comes to 1 taps

[calm ridge]

To be fair, it's REALLY expensive, but still, it's absurd that it can literally one shot most people with a body shot and ANYTHING with a headshot that isn't a full power armor.

[calm ridge]

https://gyazo.com/67c317edfc399e81f6f8b580ae631122
This was my idea for the "triangle" by the way if it wasn't clear enough.

One shot weapons or snipers outrange automatic weapon users, neutralizing them before they reach the optimal range for them, however, they cannot pierce certain armors and shields unless fully charged (if implemented)
Shields and armors can tank one shot weapons, yet will get shredded by any automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons will shred any armor with ease, however, will most likely be unable to reach snipers without getting exposed out of cover.

Meanwhile, headshots are also more rewarding, as they basically counter anything in the triangle, if you know how to hit them, as right now, it doesn't really matter for 1 shot weapons if they hit a headshot or not, since they will get the same result.

[gleaming spear]

i think nerfing the guns or the equip times of them r pointless

the guns are already pretty balanced

[calm ridge]

I don't mean to balance guns only, but also make armors more viable as a whole, because so far, the only thing that the armor is remotely useful agaisn't is light automatic weapons unless you have extra health and titanium, either way, I too believe the gun's stats should not be touched, unless charged shots are implemented.

[stone sage]

@hot moth LALALALALALA 👅

[hot moth]

STOP IT

[magic tapir]

Why are we still talking here G

😭

[glossy creek]

bro SHUT this thread

for the 100th time

this is so goddamn useless

we genuinely can’t agree on a single thing

on one hand we actually have good ideas, on the other hand there are genuine individuals who lack brain cells

[arctic apex]

You expect mutual agreement on a thread as controversial as this 😭

[glossy creek]

i mean yeah in someway

there should be a majority trying to agree on something

[arctic apex]

At the end of the day its always gonna be F2P vs i spent thousands of dollars on this game dont nerf my shit

[glossy creek]

if everyone has different ideas and one gets implemented to the liking of the chairman for example, another party won’t be happy with it

[oblique zodiac]

make it so all weapons have to damage armor before getting to your actual health like forknife

[tidal shale]

hell nah

[gleaming spear]

?????

bottom 3 suggestions ever

[arctic apex]

It appears @dusky sage has infected you with the disease of horrendous suggestions

[mossy night]

bro just revamped the entire gun system in a line

[tender jackal]

Bro just made armour penetration useless

[glossy creek]

Made just bro armour useless penetration

[oblique zodiac]

😭

[dusky sage]

LMAOOO

[karmic terrace]

that will make headshots and exposed body parts useless to hit, also makes the game more unfair to f2p players

[dusky sage]

i was just thinking that suggestion

[glacial ore]

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[mossy night]

definition of yap wall

[glossy creek]

The magnitude of this life-changing update is truly remarkable, transcending the boundaries of what we once thought possible in the gaming world. As I witness the profound impact it has already made, I am filled with an overwhelming sense of optimism for the bright future that lies ahead for "The Border." Coded_jkl, the visionary developer behind this incredible update, is undoubtedly steering the game toward unparalleled prosperity and success. With their creative prowess and dedication, they have unleashed an amazing update that has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of gaming. The destiny of "The Border" now rests firmly in Coded_jkl's capable hands, and I have no doubt that they will continue to astound us with their incredible achievements. Their recent announcement, "once again busy chilling but yes and yes and yes" signifies a new era, one that promises groundbreaking advancements and heartrending updates that will leave us spellbound. The emotional impact of this announcement is simply indescribable, for it captures the essence of Coded_jkl's unwavering commitment to their craft and the immense potential that lies within their creative endeavors. This update is a testament to their boundless talent, and it has undoubtedly left an indelible mark on the hearts and minds of players worldwide.

[oblique zodiac]

holy ai

[inland geode]

direction and magnitude

[peak hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-vector-minion-ooh-yeah-gif-5629902

Gif failed

Some shit that would happen to vector fr

[inland geode]

indeed

[lost jungle]

make a rifle with one shot bullets (500+ dmg), put it at 100k this way people can complain properly

lowkey, I feel like its stable in term of gamepasses, the only issue is with basic weapons that need a buff.

The fix to it would probably be to make 3C within AEGIS shop for a good amount of credits, it would balance the game a bit more against raiders. Wastelanders already have it through ores.

To keep it fair, maybe script it so that it can only be bought during protocol incursion and lockdown, in order to avoid complaints from players who bought it through gamepass.

This way you keep both standard users happy & gamepass players happy.

It also prevents nerfing the 1 shot weapons since all fights will be more "fair".

[empty ether]

Fuck no

[lost jungle]

ehhh why not

[empty ether]

Because a 100k gamepass that acts like 1s is plain stupid

[lost jungle]

i was joking for this one lol

[empty ether]

Er

Doesn’t sound like a joke with your tone in it

[lost jungle]

"this way people can complain properly" was more sarcastic

[lost jungle]

the P2W system is already here, the only way to balance it tbh would be to let AEGIS access a powerful gun in case of raid, this way we avoid being trapped next to spawn while waiting for P2W AEGIS players or divisional to act in the server

it still requires skill to manipulate 3c, so P2W players would have advantage in term of equipment & AEGIS would have the group effect, meaning the fight is balanced

this suggestion is this real one (within the reply)

[empty ether]

So we can have 10 divless spraying everyone including other aegis because they can’t control the recoil

[lost jungle]

i mean if you want to give them the 1s and loose the advantage, sure we can do it to avoid recoil and spray

the 3c is the only weapon that would keep it fair to Wastelanders raiding,
They will most likely end up hitting other AEGIS members but protocol incursion & lockdown don't apply without a SC present on site, unless the SC left it as such.

Meaning there would still be supervision if it was given only during incursion and lockdown or simply lockdown.

[empty ether]

@teal bramble

What do you think

[teal bramble]

I mean making the weapon equip slower before you can fire is a good idea. Not so sure about making the weapons "chargeable" though. Unless they make the DEW-1s chargeable but have it automatically one shot once it reaches max charge or something

[empty ether]

I was talking about this guys suggestion of giving out 1s and 3c to divless

[teal bramble]

For the last part, that's not including making the gun quip slower

[empty ether]

^

[teal bramble]

Oh hell no

Not a good idea, respectfully

Lol

[empty ether]

Thanks for your opinion!

[oblique zodiac]

reduce the amount of weapons you can have equipped to 3

so i won’t be getting spammed by 1s, firework, egg, musket, and cupid crossbow all within .5 seconds

[mossy night]

that's a big gamechanger actually

[teal bramble]

Wait that's a good idea

[subtle field]

Not even anyone equipping sidearms (pistols & machine pistol) after this change

except oneshot handcannons

[silk ledge]

🤮

Keep pocket reloading.

[spiral zinc]

No

[clear lion]

no pocket reloading was a nightmare

[oblique zodiac]

remove pocket reloading
decrease 1s reload time
increase fire work and egg gun reload time

perfect

[tidal shale]

yall are cooked

[sleek spruce]

One shot weapons are a nightmare

[tender jackal]

Just keep everything

[mossy night]

https://tenor.com/view/macgruber-im-in-imin-gif-24174214

[subtle field]

goated suggestion

[steel shoal]

delete the thread

[vivid garnet]

no thanks

[dusky sage]

i think we should give PaperRouteEmpire12 all the dew series weapons

[glossy creek]

please refrain from ever contributing to anything in this post

thanks

[eternal stratus]

i agree with PaperRouteEmpire12

[arctic apex]

😭

The day Paperrouteempire12 writes an ACTUALLY GOOD suggestion is the day i win the lottery

Which is never

[oblique zodiac]

i’ll buy u dew-2r for christmas

[young dew]

I'm my opinion 1 shot weapons ruin the gameplay for everyone

even for those that spend robux on buying armor and more health

[oblique zodiac]

lmk when you kill a raider that has 170 health and 485 armor with a g14

oh wait ur not aegis

with a ak47

[young dew]

Ik but if you have a sniper and good skill you can headshot them twice

[oblique zodiac]

this may be true but 1 shot weapons are already apart of the game

and chairman said he won’t remove them

[arctic apex]

Arent they dropping a new weapon for divless?

Atleast i think they were

Ya G14-C

Still a new weapon is a new weapon

Probably gonna be a BETTER weapon

Ahem

[oblique zodiac]

this is why pocket reloading needs to be added

i mean removed

wait what

hold on

i’m lost in thought

removed is what i meant

[dusky sage]

actually?

[dusky sage]

put sum respect on my name

[arctic apex]

Suggest something ACTUALLY GOOD and i will

[empty ether]

Here’s a good suggestion. Free me from my Major TOS ban.

😔

[dusky sage]

nahhh

[empty ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1136778430441062500/1143689200311476354/togif-1.gif

[dusky sage]

getting tired of you killing me all the time

[empty ether]

Buddy

I’m in aegis

[dusky sage]

back then

why are u even banned

[empty ether]

major tos violation (false ban)

[dusky sage]

free x3soul

[empty ether]

fr

[dusky sage]

since ur already banned for 6 months ill go ahead and transfer all your dews into my account

thanks for the free guns bro

[empty ether]

If you can somehow get me unbanned I will fund you the entire DEW series

[empty ether]

Make some shitty feedback threads fr

[dusky sage]

ez just dm me what ur banned for

[sick solar]

When you price then that high they have to be good

Simple solution

Lower the price and refund everyone that brought them or just leave them as they are

[glossy creek]

Nuggets ur so funny bro

Comedian

[sick solar]

will u be mad if i say bad things to you in dms

[arctic apex]

AIA agents are used to that lol

[empty ether]

YES REFUND ME MY 60k

Let me leave with peace of mind

[hearty smelt]

on fr remove them and refund like 60% id be fine

[restive void]

Not happening

[steel shoal]

If i had to bet between a random black hole appearing infront of me and the chairman giving refunds i would go all in on the blackhole

[glossy creek]

^

[restive void]

^^

[tepid cargo]

make the dews more expensive and then take the people who already bought the dews's robux to make up for the fact they bought it when it was cheaper

[dusky sage]

i love your thinking

[fast flume]

1s spammers lowkey annoying

alot will just spam 1s

[arctic apex]

1s has like a 10 sec cooldown on use

What you're referring to is POP shooting where they switch to 1s , x-33 and all the other one tap guns in 0.2 seconds

[tender jackal]

that's not pop shotting

[restive void]

1 tap spamming is pretty similar but not the same yeah

[restive void]

1s is balanced 1 tap tho

Eggatron is the fucking lroblem

[versed zephyr]

firework is the problem

eggatron had a reasonable equip time unlike firework

[restive void]

The fuck it does

Firework, 1s, and x-33 used to be all the 1 taps and back then no one one tapped spammed

Add egg and you make a problem

[versed zephyr]

ur acting like eggatron is the problem itself despite it being here since 2019

it’s just that players have adapted to what’s available, it’s not a singular guns fault

[mossy night]

ban all 1s users

[glossy creek]

ban me

[mossy night]

i upvote the aforementioned message

[steel shoal]

agreed

[clever spire]

I agree w charge up times for one taps ngl

Won't change opinion

Charge up times for the win
Not short ones either

No 1 tap excluded

Unless it's like a sniper w normal damage and rpm ig

And uh pocket reloading removed + charge up would be even better ngl
Best option

No backpack reloading like most ppl suggest does not fix 1 tap spam, especially not for multiple pistols
Charge up is obviously the needed fix

[spiral zinc]

No backpack reloading would fix it though

[clever spire]

well no cus they can switch to guns that have ammo left in them which is still pretty annoying
if they got multiple it's still pretty bad

[spiral zinc]

Most 1 shot weapons only have 1 ammo

And you'd still need to wait for every gun to reload

[clever spire]

switching to ur other gun is faster than reloading
X77 and stuff exist

most raiders have 2-4, 1 taps

They can still just choose to not reload and shoot w a different op gun

Sure, backpack reloading would balance out some raiders, but the ones who have more 1 tap guns like this would still be able to have an unfair advantage

you might say it's only a few shots but they add up

and considering they can still blast u at close range and instantly kill often depending on ur stuff it's definitely not the solution that would fix everything

[empty ether]

gang what

[steel shoal]

well is he wrong

[frail field]

What the fuck is the X77

[surreal oriole]

id say make bringing out 1 shot weapons take 2 times longer to take out, auto guns can then be mainly combat focused and better fights instead of relying on who gets to shoot who first, this will show who has better skill and aiming at others, so yea, but yea, ya know...

[clever spire]

lol I forget what x33 is called sometimes 😂😂

[tidal shale]

what?

[maiden moat]

Adding unequip time to all weapons might help if you balance the unequip times right

[agile cosmos]

@mossy night dev team has chosen to implement this

Ur lobotomy is scheduled for RIGHT NOW

[mossy night]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-991293921595200744

[agile cosmos]

Embed fail?

[agile cosmos]

Lmao

[hot ferry]

can I help with the hand breaking?!

Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

[agile cosmos]

Sorry but for liability reasons we don't break their hands we just push them off a cliff

Makes it easier to plead innocent

[hot ferry]

Awh... but can I do that pls

[wheat lantern]

Get a load of this guy.

[silk ledge]

[sharp lynx]

hold on werent u sc

[surreal oriole]

Yes I was

[silk ledge]

Discharged.

[latent fox]

💀

[terse anchor]

انا جديده و مب فاهمه شي احد يساعدني؟

[half tendon]

@radiant bane what does this mean 😭

[slender root]

"im new and i dont understand anything? can someone help me?"

[half tendon]

okay, tell him this is an english only server

[radiant bane]

Unfortunately, this server is English-only, in compliance with ToML directives, in accordance with the directive found at #📢🌎global-shout message, and unfortunately, your message is in violation of this English-only directive. Please take care in the future to ensure your messages are communicated in the English language. Thank you!

[mossy night]

SSP mentioned

[slender root]

done

[nimble badger]

He/she is saying, I'm new and I don't understand anything, can someone help me?

[nimble badger]

في هذا المجتمع نتحدث اللغة الإنجليزية فقط
In this community we only speak English.

[slender root]

Speaking arabic while ssp said that its english only a while ago

[arctic apex]

They have an english bio

This is just trolling

😭

[nimble badger]

I said to him/her that, in this community we only speak English.

[agile cosmos]

habibi this is not sigma

[glossy creek]

Unfortunately, this server is English-only, in compliance with ToML directives, in accordance with the directive found at #📢🌎global-shout message, and unfortunately, your message is in violation of this English-only directive. Please take care in the future to ensure your messages are communicated in the English language. Thank you!

[agile cosmos]

uN FORTUAnantely
i cant read engrish

[glossy creek]

Btw this a huge run on sentence, please fix the grammar.

[arctic apex]

🤓

[nimble badger]

[neon ledge]

...

[wintry garnet]

Can we just limit amount of onetab guns/DEW weapons equipped at a time to 1

[arctic apex]

I wish

For april fools, remove all 1 shots

[wintry garnet]

Make them heal opponent

[arctic apex]

So we can test how DoD would be

Without 1 shots

[jovial sparrow]

Make one shots do half damage and make it so armour should be depleted more before health is affected. Because why are we dying with 300 armour??

[glossy creek]

yeah fairs

no embed

yeah fairs

this is fair

aegis FC

like bro

wheres the gif

[maiden moat]

Ppl with 160hp and 900 armor just gonna be even more annoying to kill

[jovial sparrow]

Armour should be decreased but hold more defensive value.

[rare wharf]

this gonna turn into the photon accelerator

from blackout

with the charge

[plain aspen]

reminds me of eclipse complaining that your bizarre adventure went from no-stun combos to one-shot-kill stun combos in an old ass video of his

[arctic apex]

Bro prime YBA was peak

[mossy night]

bizzarre adventure?

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo-reference-jotaro-jojos-bizarre-adventure-is-that-a-jojo-reference-gif-6681830226860212095

[plain aspen]

🤣

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-meme-jjba-gif-4322638546229085656

[subtle briar]

One shot weapons have always been hella annoying I think reducing it and adding a cooldown like other people were saying would be great if you didn't already change it

[urban iron]

How about adding a scrap energy shield, based on the Peace Keepers? But instead of cresting a bubble, it would create a small, forearm bound shield that came up with your weapon and could resist either 100 damage or a single shot of these weapons?

Therefor keeping these weapons as they are, but balancing their power whilst adding a new element for players to work upon during combat, as well as to create new functions for items such as the circuit boards and fedorium battery components

[arctic apex]

no

FUUUUUUCK no

P2W raiders are enough thank you.

[urban iron]

Agreed, but you don't see it

Having a shield like that would force them to stop moving erratically so they don't get sprayed, meaning their primary strategy for cheap kills gets wasted, making the shield fairly useless to them

~~if they don't find a new meta for it 😭 ~~

[arctic apex]

Still no

Titanium p2w with every gp is enough as it is

[surreal oriole]

we would be to op

i mean they would be to op

pksf is already at a limit with being op

[plain aspen]

ah yes

a wasteland scrap shield

[light topaz]

ym power armor??

[oblique zodiac]

make power armor a gamepass

[neat sage]

🤯

[nimble badger]

[steel shoal]

make dod paid access 15k robux

[oblique zodiac]

smartest man alive

[arctic apex]

Careful, you and @oblique zodiac are competeing to become the new dabeestees

[crimson apex]

Remove it, it's so P2W.

[latent fox]

whos we???

[surreal oriole]

Fuck off mate

[latent fox]

😭

[olive cedar]

please do this

I’m tired of a door opening and I’m immediately getting 1 taped into the ground

and even if they miss they have another one tap weapon that will delete me

[bleak cipher]

I don't see why this is even a discussion still. It ruins the entirety of pvp for the majority of the playerbase. It is unbelievably unfair to fight against someone using DEW weapons ( and most also have the op armor, but that is not the argument here right now). You are given the standard weapons and are expected to win against someone who can one shot you in the matter of one pikosecond. Make it charge based and for the sniper make it charge based and make it so they have to stay still for 1 second. Or just remove them entirely and find a way to refund the insane amount of money you make people pay to even give them a chance against this atrocity.

Having a raider with a 170/15 K/D is not fun in the slightest. (And that is when there is only ONE)

[tepid cargo]

omg you know how much money the chairman would need to refund (removing them/refunding is not an option)

[bleak cipher]

There are other ways to refund it other than converting it back to cash. Creating new gamepasses/features that require money could be automatically given to people who paid for DEW weapons to effectively convert their money. Or even into already existing gamepasses.

[arctic apex]

Welcome to DoD

Your best bet to somewhat compete is to join a combative division

1 shots still plague DoD

Always has been

Biggest nerf they should do is increase CD when switching to oneshot weapons

Do not let these mfs switch to two other one shots before i even get to shoot my 2nd shot

[bleak cipher]

If you want to take that approach they should also increase the reload time

[arctic apex]

I dont even have a problem with the reloading. Its mostly the quick switching that pisses me off.

They switch too fast to their 2nd weapon after missing their first shot

[olive cedar]

and pretty sure dew weapons can one shot a damn PKSF with titanium armor if I’m right

while I’m given a puny ar while this dude has weapons that do aoe damage

or you can put dew weapons on sale for like 25-50%

[arctic apex]

Some of the raiders aint legit btw

HBE users

[olive cedar]

what is hbe

[arctic apex]

Exploit

[olive cedar]

not suprised

[tepid cargo]

first of all, the gamepasses would just have to be op as dews, because every gamepass right now is worth around 100k all together, and i highly doubt people would appreciate 100k robux worth of burgers or some shit...

anyways

not an option

chairman will never do it

[olive cedar]

I mean he already said he’s not * refunding it

nor removing them

having a charge and a long delay to switch between these weapons is most likely the best choice

[tepid cargo]

ye

[cobalt barn]

I’d say the DEWs need some trade for utilising them if that makes sense… overheating - think that one wh40k game and how plasma tech overheats - has a chance to explode if abused, does scaled dmg based on charging up the weapon, ect

So functionally having a weapon heating system (ammo but not ig?), charge up for some of them (e.g the 1S, windup for the 4HM, ect) and if overused or overheated have a chance to punish the user for abusing them maybe

and ofc balancing the equip times, a 4HM should take a while to equip for example it’s a bulky weapon, a 2r however shouldn’t be too long

[maiden moat]

Just shadow buffs the seasonal weapons which are better anyway

[onyx verge]

remove p2w and dont give refunds

[upbeat cedar]

literally

[upbeat cedar]

i feel like one or the other but not both

i like the switching idea

the charge is good too

but the switching idea might be annoying for people who have no other gun to switch to

[oblique zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087100819066867762/1243241716094468096/max_mouth_min_mind-1.gif

[scarlet wharf]

Never come up with an idea again🔥

And refunding isn’t an option

There’s very little that can be done and it’s also not fair to those who paid hundreds on this game just to nerf the gamepasses they paid hundreds for

Can’t simply refund or remove the weapon gamepasses

[onyx verge]

Remove them and don't refund them at all

It is fair!!!

[pine mountain]

thats basically telling them to stop earning money

they should just make it u charge 1s to shoot

and when u reload u pull a cable out of nowhere to charge the weapon up

or maybe make it so its a "bar"

u can tap for weak shots

or fully charge and deplete the whole bar but does same dmg as it is now

oh and for like 5ss maybe like

u can charge it up so make it fire in a set pattern

and lesser pellets more dmg (so hit can reg plz hitreg)

or make the laser actually functionable

like 60s cd turn on for a set duration that lowers spread/set pattern

[upbeat cedar]

for 5ss you should be able to charge it up into a straight shot with no spread and if you keep charging it up it'll turn into a kamehameha that destroys anything in its path including parts of the map

and it leaves craters on terrain

i feel like it would be balanced and give more purpose to the 5ss as nobody uses it anymore

[pine mountain]

I agree

[frail field]

Not map destruction

[full pagoda]

Do range exist with guns in the game?

if so. The charges also affect range

idk if this already has been mentioned or not

max charge = its maximmum range one hit
Low charge = low range less damage

[steel shoal]

Delete this thread game never getting nerfed ong

[tidal shale]

Who is bro?

[arctic apex]

Anything said into this thread means nothing.

NO balance changes are made and NO one is listening for suggestions

TONE DEAF!

[tidal shale]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

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[silk ledge]

If you’re talking about someguy_exe then he’s an ex-SC DSC I think.

[trail zephyr]

Though I do like the charge Idea, one issue with that is it is very tedious and will potentially make one shot weapon doesn't feel as viable/powerful. However, the main issue with one-shot weapons is how spam-able they are if you have multiple of them. So I suggest maybe make it so that you can store the charge. (Charging up the weapon will take a while, doing it mid-combat will allow enemies to close in) This still allows you to spam the one-shot weapon, but now you can't do it constantly.

[clever spire]

no
charge up + no inventory reload for the win

[upbeat cedar]

Bro agrees with the rest 😭😭😭

[drowsy goblet]

Equip time longer, and firerate between shots longer like the regular sniper.

[haughty kernel]

agreed

[daring salmon]

put this thread in a retirement home already

[hot ferry]

Bump because yes

[inland geode]

[raven kettle]

bump

[oblique zodiac]

dump

[hot ferry]

pump

[agile cosmos]

This was exactly what it says in the title

we discussed

and a discussion happened

and it became mega in a thread

and now its joever

[mossy night]

It's joever

[inland geode]

joever

[hearty vessel]

Joever

[slender root]

Joever

[steel shoal]

Joeover

[pure tundra]

Why not make a weapon worth 5k ingots or something similar, like a pirated version of Dew, that takes longer to charge but has the same power?

[raven kettle]

Bump

[steel shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/526164328718532628/1350470073915281480/togif.gif

[alpine marsh]

day 2 of asking @chairman for 1s

[glossy creek]

day 4596 of asking to close this thread

[tepid cargo]

yeah they should

this thread is joever

[dapper bay]

Day 1 of asking you to get a job

[alpine marsh]

day 3 of asking @chairman for 1s

(ill get a job when im 14 vro)

[floral delta]

one shot weapons should be used like snipers but they aren’t

like

it’s the combat system at fault here

you can run around in third person and shoot people in any direction across the map with perfect accuracy

yeah of course one shot guns are gonna be an issue

what’s funny is that I don’t even think one shot weapons by themselves are an issue

it’s when people rapidly cycle through like 5 one shot guns whilst flicking from a corner shooting you across the map

nothing you can do

I’m not even saying this because I haven’t spent like 500$ on the game by the way

I have 1s and would much rather have it nerfed but everyone uses automatic guns more

dying to one shot guns is just not it

if one shot guns do ever get nerfed in the future, I feel like the change will have to be in part indirect and come from somewhere else

like a nerf to quickswitching in general

the one shot guns themselves could deal damage based on range

the closer you are the less damage they do

and only at a certain range and onwards would it deal maximum damage

|

genuinely

I feel HAPPY when I die to automatic guns during a raid

because it’s a fair and square battle

and not some cartoonish cheese bull

[trail zephyr]

I would much rather the combat stay the same ngl. But maybe make it so you have to manualy reload one shot weapons instead of reloading in your inventory?

[floral delta]

one shot guns are genuinely the scourge of this game

as aegis, you can’t walk outside without the fear of getting instantly slimed with no chance to even react

as wastelander, you’re constantly looking over your shoulder because you don’t know if someone is going to corner flick you

[floral delta]

I mean

[trail zephyr]

This game was built on pay to win bases, if they nerf the guns that they paid for, it would anger a lot people.

[floral delta]

that could work idk

[trail zephyr]

It should of been addressed way early on, not when there are tons of people doing the same thing already.

But alas chairman likes the money so he kept it that way.

Now that it became a core part of the game, it gonna be hard to change it without it angering a portion of the community.

[floral delta]

well look

I don’t think the p2w players would mind if the change is systemic

they’ll only get mad if it’s done in a half assed way

like

let’s say only 1s and x33 are nerfed

yeah of course people are going to be mad

but if all one shot guns are nerfed

their enemies also are nerfed

[trail zephyr]

Anything done in a half assed way is gonna anger a lot of people.

[floral delta]

so they don’t actually lose any edge

in combat

[floral delta]

very true

if the only one shot guns were 1s and x33 we’d all be chilling tbh

it’s the dumb event guns that ruined it

they look so out of place in a serious rp game and on top of that they’re all busted

musket is just +1 ammo to your 1s, eggatron is a oneshot weapon with multiple bullets

firework is there too

now combat is just straight who can cycle through more one shot guns

[trail zephyr]

Honestly, the damage is already done.

I don't know how one can fix this.

Without angering at least a formidable portion of the community.

[floral delta]

but there also comes the issue of corner camping

cant shoot through walls in this game so

you can just hide and reload behind a corner

[trail zephyr]

Yeah but, this game is also very AEGIS sided..

[floral delta]

bro anything is better than keeping combat as is

imagine you’re a f2p mdf going out into the wasteland

what do you even do

tell me

[trail zephyr]

Honestly, like I said.

The damage is already done.

[floral delta]

nah it’s not

[trail zephyr]

It is going to be difficult to fix it.

[floral delta]

some compromises can be made, as long as the issue gets better it’d be good

[floral delta]

all we can do now is believe in dylanjkl

wasn’t there that one update planned

like the inventory one

maybe there can be a limit on how many weapons you can hotbar at once?

or there could be a weight system? idk

[gleaming spear]

only being able to hold 2-3 one shots would be good

[floral delta]

though it’s unlikely because people will lots of gamepasses will complain

I think the weight idea is better

the more guns you hold, the slower you are

this way you can make your own compromises

[gleaming spear]

my idea is
being able to hold less one shot weapons
removing pocket reloading (literally removes popshotting and the crazy broken one shot stacking stuff in combat, and is way better than increasing pullout times)
nerfing the pullout times
and maybe making auto weapons do more damage/increasing the firerate on some as to make people use them and reintroduce them into meta lol

[gleaming spear]

guns are already limited at being able to hold 5 at a time

sectioning how many u can hold of each category of weapon would be a good change to combat the ingame combat meta rn

• the other options i listed out above

[floral delta]

funnily enough the most problematic guns are all pistols

imo dew 1s should be the only one shot gun

[gleaming spear]

ehhh i wouldnt say this

[floral delta]

1 sniper 1 pistol 1 automatic 1 shotgun

[gleaming spear]

keep all of them but make them not useable at the same time

as people use and stack 5 one shots in the current combat meta and thats just fucking crazy

nobody uses autos and stuff anymore

[gleaming spear]

i have almost all gamepasses and i think its for the better

[floral delta]

it is

[floral delta]

4hm and 5ss should’ve been the meta

not these bs one shots

limited event guns ruined it all

what’s worse is there also came event items that increased max hp

so whilst people could one shot you you couldn’t one shot them

[gleaming spear]

5ss's recoil and spread is broken and 4hm is just not used at all anymore

5ss used to be good for a little while when it had less recoil but then they just nerfed it into oblivion and nobody uses it

yea they shouldve been the meta but they arent now 😢

[floral delta]

it’s crazy because

5ss description still says it’s considered the strongest weapon

[gleaming spear]

when elevators used to be teleporters and theyd just teleport u somewhere people used to camp them with the 5ss alot

but when the elevators got upgraded 5ss just fell off

[gleaming spear]

probably hasnt been updated in a while

[floral delta]

ok how about we start with a quick switch nerf

whenever you switch from one gun to another gun within a given time period

the pull out time for that gun is massively increased

[gleaming spear]

pullout times are just a pain in the ass

its been tried alot of times and it just does nothing to prevent it

removing guns reloading when u arent using them would quite literally resolve this instantly as how popshotting works is:

[floral delta]

it would definitely be one of the things that would help

[gleaming spear]

u shoot gun 1, press r to reload it, switch to gun 2, shoot, press r to reload, switch to gun 3, shoot, press r to reload, switch to gun 1 and so on

[floral delta]

there needs to be more though

[gleaming spear]

this is what i think would solve it

[floral delta]

how do we feel about a downing system

actually nvm this would just make ultra gamepass warriors stronger

[silk ledge]

Fully automatic weapons already deal a lot of dmg.

Remove pocket reloading, problem solved.

[floral delta]

nah not enough

you need to be given time to react if someone starts cycling 10 death beams on you

[gleaming spear]

id maybe increase the firerate on 4hm/3c

it would promote using them and possibly reintroduce them into the meta

as they arent used at all rn

[silk ledge]

4hm maybe, 3c no.

3c deals quite a lot of dmg.

Idk bro.

There's no point talking about this since the chairman prob gave up on this thing.

[gleaming spear]

100%

[silk ledge]

Also, if pocket reloading was actually removed then I'd talk abt this more.

But it is still present.

[gleaming spear]

but its worth trying to preach it

[silk ledge]

What's the point?

[gleaming spear]

as the game is and has been unfun

especially the combat

[silk ledge]

I bought egg and I can easily kill some really skilled 6' members now xd.

[gleaming spear]

i have almost all the gamepasses but i am against it

[silk ledge]

Yeah, you have experience.

[floral delta]

imo there are 3 guns that are the issue

eggatron x33 and firework

maybe musket

[gleaming spear]

theyre ok by themselves

but when paired up with eachother its just too much

[gleaming spear]

THIS would probably fix

[floral delta]

yeah ngl

we need to

remove pocket reloading

add a limit to how many one shot guns you can carry

[gleaming spear]

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[floral delta]

and add some sort of quickswitching nerf

[gleaming spear]

i disagree with this

it wouldnt have any impact on the issue if pocket reloading is removed

+it already somewhat exists in the form of pullout times which are useless and just a pain in the ass

id remove those

[azure pilot]

best fix: give everyone the weapons

skill over wallets yk

[floral delta]

would genuinely be worse

you walk into the wasteland you get slimed in 0.02 seconds

genuinely

one of the things we need

is certain guns not being able to be used with other guns

and certain items no longer being usable once other items are used

I know these people aren’t complaining about the robux bro

they have even the useless gamepasses like geiger or g36

[half tendon]

Any weapon can be good if you use it right

[young dew]

It doesn't matter how good you're with a weapon, if it lacks significant damage to kill a titatium user you're dead.

[half tendon]

headshots do 3x damage..

[young dew]

Try to consistenly hit 6 headshots with a gun like G14-B

While the enemy has every single dew in this game

and armor and health pass

[half tendon]

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/jUTH9fDya3wZjMccj?invite=cr-MSw3dWIsMjkyOTU4MzE0 troll clip but not that hard tbh. You could do that easily in AED, camping. As most raiders got bad aim, as long as you are moving. You won't die.

[young dew]

You were lucky that the STHD was not jumping around and moving more erratically.

[half tendon]

yeah, not expecting that to be direct proof, just lucky. But you can hit atleast 6 or more headshots on a raider easily.

[young dew]

Depends on the raider.

Realistically none of them is gonna let you do that

Unless you ambush them.

[floral delta]

you know

I just had a sick idea

for how to do this

without even touching the one shots at all

add different armor types

add a setting that lets you choose what kind of armor you use

there should be 3 types

[light topaz]

there already is

but

[floral delta]

1 that’s good against automatics and other generally medium dmg weapons

[light topaz]

it doesn’t work with this system very well

[floral delta]

1 that’s good against heavy hitting shots like eggatron or firework

and another one that’s balanced

[floral delta]

?

[light topaz]

nah just update the current armor(s)

[floral delta]

have you seen SCP roleplay

they added different armor types u can choose

ceramic titanium steel

[light topaz]

titanium is suppose to tank the 1s (except headshots)

[floral delta]

they work different against different rounds

[floral delta]

it doesn’t fyi

1s to titanium body is a one shot

[light topaz]

exactly why it should be updated or fixed

[floral delta]

no like

[light topaz]

instead of adding more armors yk

[floral delta]

I’m saying

you can choose this for any armor

e.g

ceramic plates for your armor

heavily decreases dmg of high pen weapons

[light topaz]

this ain’t SCP

[floral delta]

yes but the concept is the same

you should be able to customise your armor in the form of plates to make it good against a certain type of weapons

steel plates are the same as it is now

ceramic would be very good against one shots (would bring them to a two or three shot) however they offer little protection against other guns

titanium would be very good against everything except one shots

obviously the names can be changed

but that’s the general idea

and I mean

armor penetration as a stat isn’t really needed rn

because damage will always be base damage x armor penetration

so this can do something to introduce variables

[azure pilot]

Yet you still need heart 😭

660 armour and cant tank it

[sudden sail]

please add more one shot weapons

[gleaming spear]

👍

[floral delta]

please nerf one shot weapons

[young dew]

The game would need some serious rebalancing before nerfing one shot weapons

[gleaming spear]

#1418333158314741914 message

[balmy vapor]

as long as there’s a credit card there’s a dead credit on the other side

[fair geode]

👍

[alpine marsh]

Day 4 of asking @chairman for 1s

[young dew]

I love how despite the chairman asked for feedback and opinions he hasn't said anything yet

Has he even read this thread in first place?

And i can't believe that there's people that genuinely defend how P2W the game is and want it to stay like that

[azure pilot]

It’s too late to make it non-P2W

[floral delta]

no it’s not lol

[gleaming spear]

ure literally arguing against ur interests

i have all the relevant gamepasses and i am advocating for this lol

[azure pilot]

I’m just saying, it’s too late to make it F2P or less P2W because of the fact that so many people have the relevant gamepasses

Most would be quite pissed

I’m also advocating for it but the likelihood is next to none

[gleaming spear]

its a broken meta

there would only be slight changes like removing pocket reloading and such as to stop shooting 5 guns in the span of 2 seconds

[floral delta]

most do not care

[young dew]

Have you guys noticed that this game almost never gets new active raiders?

It's always the same people

And also like 99% of once active raidera have been divisionals in AEGIS

Guess why that happens

Guess why

[young dew]

You may be right that so many people have the most OP gamepasses however

Something has to be done

It can't stay like this forever

[azure pilot]

Yes, I agree

[young dew]

There are ways to balance all of this P2W stuff without making it useless

[azure pilot]

but completely making it all F2P wouldnt work

[young dew]

At least make the game more enyojable for F2P

[azure pilot]

thats something more viable

[young dew]

I see that the main issue is that automatic weapons are unreliable at this point

There's so many people with 1 shot weapons that it comes to a point of "if you can't beat them, join them" (become P2W too lololo)

No one uses automatic weapons unless they have no choice

[floral delta]

that’s not what we are saying

lessen the game between p2w and f2p

the tryhard sweats won’t care as long as their opponents get nerfed too

it can start with nerfing the one shot guns

I’m not even being biased here, I use one shot guns myself

they just need to go

[agile cosmos]

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[gleaming spear]

Ge tout

[mossy night]

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[tepid cargo]

i clicked on this and its an ip grabber 😭

[agile cosmos]

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[thorny lava]

Why am i just now seeing this thread

Please bro the one shot meta is so ass

[gleaming spear]

Welcome My suggestion is best Ok alright

[thorny lava]

Yeah you right

Decreasing the amount you can carry + getting rid of pocket reload

Would fix the worst part of it

[gleaming spear]

Nerfing pullout times like they keep doing just slightly delays it

Temoving pocket reloading would take out the issue entirely imo

[thorny lava]

When youve got 5 of them equipped and can just keep switching and peeking

[gleaming spear]

Autos must rise

[thorny lava]

And once one is out all your others are reloaded

[gleaming spear]

Automatic weapons must be meta again

[thorny lava]

That shit sucks

Buffs for auto weapons could also be good

[gleaming spear]

Buff the firerate on thrm

4Hm used to shoot faster

[thorny lava]

I would argue buff the damage or at least the armor pen

You shouldnt have to magdump someone to kill them when they have armor on

[gleaming spear]

Yeh armor pen would be nice

Damage is already fine imo

[thorny lava]

Cuz like the 3c

If im understanding how armor pen works

At 22 damage and 23% armor pen

Youre doing about 5 damage per body shot

If someone has a lot of armor

At a mag size of 20 you basically have to magdump someone to kill them

And it wont even finish the job if they have health gamepasses

If they were to say

Double the armor pen without touching the damage

Closer to 10 damage per shot

Which is more viable

Idk i definitely have a skill issue but combat in this game is so unfun

[gleaming spear]

U are not wrong

The combat sucks alot

However it wouldnt be as bad and could even be enjoyable if killing people by shooting 2-3 guns in the span of a few seconds while also hiding in cover wasn't possible

Im arguing this whilst having all the relevant gamepasses

[young dew]

That would be very OP

That's doubling the damage

[thorny lava]

Still not as op as popshotting

[alpine marsh]

Day 5 of asking @chairman for the 1s coz am broke

[young dew]

@shut shore Our beloved chairman's #1 pinger, could you please ping the chairman here?

[oblique zodiac]

if this is added i want refunds

[autumn tree]

worst idea ever

[alpine marsh]

I would quit the game

Day 6 of asking @chairman for 1s coz am brokue

[plush urchin]

Coming from the worst current suggester

[gleaming spear]

dudes legit arguing against their interests

i see dudes talm bout "This the worst idea" with only 1s and like 3c 😂

[plush urchin]

Sorry but I’m stating a fact

Have you seen his fuck ass feedback threads

[gleaming spear]

idk man just by his reaction i can tell hes not really too bright

[plush urchin]

Oh shit I misread this

[gleaming spear]

this is like poor people against higher taxes on rich people

[plush urchin]

You’re talking about him

My fault

[plush urchin]

That’s true

[gleaming spear]

all these dudes arguing against this dont even have the relevant gamepasses while i do and im advocating for it 😭

"Yea bro im getting a refund" "No dont add this; Day 6 of asking @chairman for 1s coz am broke"

[plush urchin]

lmao

I can’t say I have any relevant gamepasses yet either but atleast I have common sense

And a plan to buy relevant gamepasses

[flat needle]

Make them have a longer pullout and reload time

[autumn tree]

That’s a really good idea

[thorny lava]

I dont think anything else would need to be changed if they just removed pocket reloading

Yeah you can equip your 5 one tap weapons and fire off all your shots

But once you do youre vulnerable because you actually have to keep the weapons equipped to reload them

It wouldnt make the shorter gameplay loop feel any different

Nobody likes slow clunky guns

But it would make people have to strategize better

Instead of just finding a spot of cover to camp out and rack up kills until a push is finally able to reach you or you get sniped while peeking

Reload vulnerability is already where automatics shine because you can get close and spray someone down between shots

The window for it is just so small with pocket reloading

[gleaming spear]

Hell no it isnt lmfao

They been changing pullout times and making them longer and shit for ages and it doesnt do anything

Its just an inconvenience

The reload time is fine as well

It will just take ages to shoot and reload

[autumn tree]

its called sarcasm

[gleaming spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/608320794791116800/1193761310639407105/togif.gif?width=1064&height=960

[autumn tree]

nice embed

[gleaming spear]

NN speaking

[autumn tree]

whats NN?

[tender jackal]

No name

[thorny lava]

Only name bro has is being the worst suggestion maker in dod history

[autumn tree]

Valid

[sudden sail]

Please add more 1 shot gamepasses, dont listen to anyone here. Please add more.

[balmy vapor]

your forgetting that you can only have 5 weapons

[azure pilot]

Keep adding more regardless

[sudden sail]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[mossy night]

embed fail

[young dew]

#aegis message

Guys guys guys

[finite sundial]

I feel like greatly reducing armor penetration of anything that does more than 150 damage can fix alot of stuff, also a system that only allows for 2 one shots(+100 damage) to be equipped in a single time

[young dew]

There is hope!

[finite sundial]

Or a simple but probably hard to code idea: make it so that if a weapon is unequipped then they stop reloading so we dont get some p2w players fusing all the one shots and getting a gatling gun that way

[silent totem]

That was already a thing for a short time, they removed pocket reloading, but most of the community voted for it to come back, because it didn't feel like DoD anymore

[thorny lava]

That sucks because removing pocket reloading would be the easiest fix to make the game a little more balanced

Short of limiting the amount of one shots someone can have equipped

Someone with multiple one taps can just cycle between them as they reload

[alpine marsh]

Day 6 of asking @chairman for the 1s cuz im broke

[sand breach]

Do not do this

Thats it

Do not nerf DEWS

people just need to get better

[digital belfry]

Either your overestimating or your actually ignorant

[sand breach]

People just need to get better

and buy the guns

not hard

[digital belfry]

I mean to an extent yes its possible to fight p2w with f2p like divisional guns but thats still overestimating

[sand breach]

just

buy the guns

😭

[digital belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017125291027595384/1358688847990489108/togif.gif

Oh right

embeb here sucks

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whatever it is

[alpine marsh]

Day 7 of asking @chairman for the 1s cuz im broke

[gleaming spear]

Omg bruh

[hot ferry]

i think a vast majority of people dont want to drop sizable amounts of money just to have fun

thats like

literally the whole reason P2W games are frowned upon

the game is not going to be sustainable in the long run if a vast majority of people are just going to leave because they get stomped by someone who's paid money and dont want to or cant spend the money to do the same

im not trying to be shitty and go like

"euuEGEGeHEhhhh YourARGU MENT SUCKSSS becauseYOuit paid mOONEy and I hatert you"

also, to address the "get better" point, you're forgetting the fact that in DOD's current state, fights are mega short, at least for one on one fights

its gonna be hard to "get better" if fights are over in like 5 seconds max

you're not really improving

its literally just a question of who has the dew weapon and who can click the fastest

thats what fights really js come down to

generally at least

look again im not trying to be an asshole but im js trying outline the problems with this thought process that a lot of ppl have

[sand breach]

Yeah but you gotta think

People already paid large amounts of money for these benefits

Don’t take them away

That’s like scamming atp

Already expensive

So he should lower the price

But not change the gun itself

Or nerf the damage a bit on some

[hot ferry]

Big chair already said they wouldnt take away the guns

[hot ferry]

it is

[hot ferry]

lowering the price would worsen the problem

that would increase the number of people using said overpowered weapons

due to its affordability

we'd have an even bigger problem than what we have already

honestly, curbing pocket reloading and having a limit on how many dew/oneshot's you can carry is prob the best option

one prevents oneshot spam which is genuinely a plague on the game and a oneshot limiter will js mean that if you miss your shots or mess up in combat you get punished severely

it'll reduce the current reliance upon oneshot weapons and actually make fights more about skill instead of js who can click on the head with the dew

[vital aurora]

give everyone dew

problem solved

[flint quiver]

i like this

[thorny lava]

Pocket reloading genuinely a plague

[sand breach]

Bro holy words

I’m not reading all that

But nah

Just give everyone a dew

I agree with serpent

[young dew]

@hot ferry 👏 👏

This man is actually spitting facts

and giving solutions

[alpine marsh]

Day 8 of asking @chairman to give me the 1s cuz am broke

[alpine marsh]

Yes

[alpine marsh]

Especially initiates

[hot ferry]

sigh why do i even fucking bother anyway

🥀

[hot ferry]

DOD shouldnt have even gotten into this situation in the first place

[young dew]

Yeah

[hot ferry]

oneshots have been enough of an issue as is

better late than never

i honestly could give less of a shit about the opinions of 90% of the supporters in DoD who vehemently oppose any form of nerfing DEWs because they're grown so reliant upon them that the concept of nerfing sets them into a frenzy

both aegis and wastelanders

i want at least SOMETHING done'

[sand breach]

More yap

💤

[untold ledge]

maybe a serie of weapons that can be consider as DEW first version weapons

like a prototype

but it buyable with tickets or credits

maybe tickets since everyone in dod are bill gate with the game currency

[digital belfry]

thats pretty much the pksf rifle

[untold ledge]

PKSF rifle is likely a normal gun

it not from an energy source like DEW

DEW is like nuclear gun

radioactive gun kind of thing

[digital belfry]

no its an energy source\

[untold ledge]

if PK is actually like DEW which have energy source

then why tf it shoot out normal bullets

[digital belfry]

https://day-of-dusk-rbx.fandom.com/wiki/F13-PK

[untold ledge]

When you reload a DEW gun a small tube of energy source will come out

[digital belfry]

read it before you speak

[untold ledge]

and PKSF gun is like reload the whole mag

then the lore and the gun is going the wrong way

cuz that shit aint so energy ray gun at all

[digital belfry]

🤷‍♂️

[alpine marsh]

Day 9 of asking @chairman for the 1s cuz am broke

[alpine marsh]

Day 10 of asking @chairman for the 1s cuz am broke

[tender jackal]

I'll save you some time

Just stop now

[dusky kelp]

[alpine marsh]

no

[balmy vapor]

he’s soon to be STHD on aegis man

[alpine marsh]

Day 11 of asking @chairman for 1s cuz im broke

[gleaming spear]

Its not gonna work bro

Im sorry

[alpine marsh]

Yes it will

Eventuallly

Day 12 of asking @chairman for the 1s cuz am broke

[gleaming spear]

😭 Bro

[empty ether]

He doesn’t read this

He doesn’t read anything

[alpine marsh]

Don't matter

Im tying

[empty ether]

Whatever helps you sleep at night

[wild ginkgo]

Ts was forgotten abt 💔

[empty ether]

Nerfing weapons we specifically payed good money for will not happen

[wild ginkgo]

Then what’s the point of the discussion

[gleaming spear]

Well i guess he has spoken

Close minded final boss

Why even join the thread

[digital belfry]

To give f2p players a chance?

[wild ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-lang-meme-lang-gif-25328011

[empty ether]

To state an obvious fact

[gleaming spear]

Empty brained

[empty ether]

You have 100k spent

Unless you don’t give a shit about combat, how would you feel if your weapons were nerfed to the ground

Just to allow someone with 3c to have a chance

[gleaming spear]

Great

also nobody has mentioned "nerfing weapons to the ground"

just changes to the gun system to make the combat actually playable and somewhat fun for everyone

[empty ether]

Arguments of “requiring charge ups” and “less accuracy unless charged” is pretty much nerfing it to the ground

[empty ether]

Why should a f2p with 3c even have a chance against 100k spent

[gleaming spear]

they arent bad ideas but i feel they are just too complicated

i recommended a different approach

[gleaming spear]

why should you pay to enjoy the game

??

[empty ether]

That sounds good but you said I wasn’t open minded

So I’m stating my opinion

[gleaming spear]

so then what would your approach be

[empty ether]

It’s the nature of p2w gameplay

[empty ether]

I haven’t thought about my own approach

[gleaming spear]

not how it has to be lol

[empty ether]

But the arguments suggested are quite bad

[empty ether]

A developer with 50 average players trying to keep his game alive while earning profit

[gleaming spear]

this wasnt a problem like 7 years ago when u wouldnt find one soul with all the gamepasses in main server

[empty ether]

One shot weapons also give the game a unique combat

[empty ether]

Yes but this is a problem now

Most likely a problem that can’t be fixed that easily

[gleaming spear]

not unique at all, but how are you encouraging unplayable conditions just because of "unique-ness" and "thats just the nature of p2w combat its how it has to go"

[gleaming spear]

it can lol

[gleaming spear]

do u know how much money said game dev makes

???

[empty ether]

I’ve heard numbers here and there

[gleaming spear]

im sure hes not struggling

[empty ether]

Either way he will always be looking for profit

[gleaming spear]

if you check out his other game oretary, properties cost in the ballpark of 100k-200k

just for an ingame building for an organization

and if you dont go by his code or whatever thing you do, it can get removed in the blink of an eye

have also heard rumors here and there of a 15k usd property

u can check out if u join the game

we're getting off topic but he's definitely making profit either way, and arguing keep the game the same because thats just the nature of "the guy who spends more can make some other guy who doesnt spend at all not enjoy the game" is mad

[empty ether]

That may be mad but it’s just the truth of it

If someone is willing to spend thousands of dollars on a lego game and another is not

You can guess who is going to enjoy it and who isn’t

But yes I see your points