okay hell no
#One Shot Weapons - A mega thread discussion
merry peak
rocky flame
Then reduce headshot multiplier
merry peak
Then reduce headshot multiplier
that could actually work
since headshot does 3x damage
but like with taht
ur nerfing the game
and not 1 tap weapons
dapper fractal
or just adding an item tag that prevents having more than 1 equipped in inv
rocky flame
Again ppl buy these gamepasses to get a significant advantage don’t you think it’s unfair for them to just nerf it now bc f2p are complaining? I get why it’s so unfair it really is but it’s p2w for a reason if chairman does decide to nerf it I think a lot of the playerbase would stop playing
rugged viper
imagine if the chargeable weapons worked like in helldivers 2
worn moth
No let me keep my op guns
rugged viper
if you don't release it in time, it blows up and kills you
rocky flame
No let me keep my op guns
🗣️
merry peak
In my opinion
I think the damage is what is fucked up
everyone spawns with 100 hp
and if a single gun does 60 damage in 1 shot
🤷♂️
rugged viper
dews are okay in the game, however bullshit like the musket or eggatron need to go
rocky flame
dews are okay in the game, however bullshit like the musket or eggatron need to ...
I got chairman to buff musket in 8.0 too 👀
thorn finch
The dews are probably the most balanced with 6 second cooldown on the 1s
rocky flame
The dews are probably the most balanced with 6 second cooldown on the 1s
Exactly musket aswell 7sec reload the new minigun 7sec reload and long pullout time
rugged viper
The dews are probably the most balanced with 6 second cooldown on the 1s
the chargeup thing on the 1s would make a lot of sense
thorn finch
It would
thorn finch
Doesn't have to be a long charge up
rugged viper
what really would change the balancing if aegis personnel could purchase goodies like wastelanders can
for free
rocky flame
^
merry peak
the 3c
rocky flame
Use tickets to purchase them
Aegis only have, L11, M249, P226 and G14
Which is pre shit
rugged viper
it is unironically the worst
rocky flame
Make it so they can buy 3c with tickets since Wastelanders can too
rugged viper
if only sc had the ability to deploy a special merchant to allow people to buy better shit
merry peak
if only sc had the ability to deploy a special merchant to allow people to buy b...
vro what
rocky flame
Why would sc do that
rocky flame
Just upgrade the merchant in cafeteria and make him sell more items
Make him sell titan heavy Kev and light Kev then a bunch of guns
merry peak
didnt chair said divs will have thier own spawn room
rocky flame
Fr?
rocky flame
Oh well I’ve never heard of that
rugged viper
we should get rid of the publicly visible chat, and replace it with proximity chat and radio system
rocky flame
That would be useful too but one small problem
mossy night
where you can buy better armor
rocky flame
How would SC deal with leakers and chat bypassing
rugged viper
How would SC deal with leakers and chat bypassing
allowing them to use :chatlogs freely
rocky flame
I just feel like that would be too annoying having to check it
rugged viper
if there's no publicly visible chat, then the exposure is limited to proximity
meaning it's basically pointless to even attempt to leak or bypass
because not a lot of people would be exposed to it
at the time of it happening
plus, people can just screenshot it and then send it to a sc
or use the help request system
so it brings in a net benefit having the publicly visible chat removed
thorn finch
A divisional shop keeper probably isn't a bad idea, helps still have the ideology of become a divisional for higher grade military equipment
Maybe also make it for officer+
rugged viper
I feel like the current divisional life is just miserable
thorn finch
As those are mr personal and not seen as disposable assets
rugged viper
not something it would be worth for your average joe
thorn finch
Ibh I'm still having a blast with in aia. Had alot of fun in ard awhile ago. Although I've never been a combat division
thorn finch
Issue with being in aia since 2022 haven't had much experience from combative sides
Other then the time i interned
rugged viper
I'd probably do insanely poorly if I had to do aoa s2
because of 3 combative divisions
neat sage
dews are okay in the game, however bullshit like the musket or eggatron need to ...
Musket is a worse version of the 1s in every single way but for 6x the price what are you talking about
rugged viper
Musket is a worse version of the 1s in every single way but for 6x the price wha...
it has no place here
neat sage
But the 1s is fine???
thorn finch
I was okay, pksf was probably the most fun but then again some hicom hopped online to give me unique things to do
rugged viper
But the 1s is fine???
right now it's not fine
it's used like a shotgun
a slug shotgun
neat sage
So what did you mean by dews are okay in the game, but bullshit like musket isnt?
rugged viper
having them around as a futuristic weapon is completely fine
but how they're balanced is not fine
rocky flame
Bro you are too deep in the roleplay
Ong
thorn finch
Dew weaponry is supposed to be rare lore wise as it cannot be manufactured sustainably anymore
rugged viper
the funniest thing the guns should do if they have high damage potential and they're used for popshooting, it will reflect the damage to you instead
neat sage
Bro is saying that a weapon 6x the price thats a worse verison of a gun that is mainstream has no place in the game
rugged viper
neat sage
Just bc of the model
thorn finch
Due to running out of resources and loss of blueprints/information on construction
neat sage
the funniest thing the guns should do if they have high damage potential and the...
Another funny thing that should happen is if you are bad at combat you just accept it and stop finding things to blame
But thats in a perfect world
rugged viper
if we had cursor follow, strafing would become an actual thing
magic tapir
Maybe
frail field
I think that you should take all the current one shots off sale, remake them, and release them as a v2 variant, that has the debuffs listed (keep same price tho). I feel like all the current ones should stay though, as that’s what they paid for, except make their draw time worse for the current ones. Lore reason can be that there is a shortage of the technology that charges the DEWs, so they have to put less into the gun, which causes a longer charge time on trigger pull. As the game grows, people will leave, it will slowly phase out the OP V1 DEWs, and no one would be reasonably angry.
rocky flame
^
rugged viper
And uh, don’t debuff the 2r, it’s shit anyway
speaking of 2r
it should be a dmr/battle rifle instead of a pistol
1s - sniper
2r - pistol
3c - carbine
4hm - machine gun
5ss - shotgun
like why is it not following a transitional logic
from deadly precision to overwhelming rain of green death
dapper fractal
1s - sniper
2r - pistol
3c - carbine
4hm - machine gun
5ss - shotgun
like why i...
3c aint a carbine bro
rugged viper
it literally is
dapper fractal
its got no base variant
rugged viper
you don't need a predecessor assault rifle to have a carbine
dapper fractal
also a dew cant be a carbine at all
barrel lenght wont affect a laser weapon
im pretty sure thats not even long enough to qualify as a carbine anyway
dapper fractal
you don't need a predecessor assault rifle to have a carbine
also by definition carbines are more compact assault rifles with shorter barrels
rugged viper
that's because they are
dapper fractal
yea and the 3c is a regular assault rifle
rugged viper
lighter too, hence why the recoil is quite high
dapper fractal
lighter too, hence why the recoil is quite high
wouldnt really call it light
worn moth
add a bean launcher
versed zephyr
buff f2p guns, nerf 1 tap guns, buff automatic guns easy fix
the main problem with 1 tap guns is just the spam so you can increase the equip times
dapper fractal
earn money AND fix the 1tap issue
reuory armor is useless
solar valley
reuory armor is useless
thats not true
because you can stack
if u stack heart turkey and armor
but if theyre cheaper
people will buy
solar valley
ur talkin bout health boosters
oh yeaj i meant that
dapper fractal
the way armor is implemented in dod is shit
solar valley
but if armor is so shit why do you own all armors
solar valley
better than going naked
whats wrong with going naked
dapper fractal
im sorry that was mean
solar valley
enjoy the strike
mossy night
PRANK
dapper fractal
he still striked me
spiral zinc
make armor gamepasses cheaper
I want a refund for what's lost if that's the case 😔
solar valley
I want a refund for what's lost if that's the case 😔
no refunds
spiral zinc
😡
tall ermine
I feel like one problem to this is that it's essentially gonna make weapons like the 1S inconvenient to shoot; it's natural human instinct to expect a gun to go boom upon clicking, not to track your target
however since you can pre-charge with the counterweight of effectiveness I'm assuming this is gonna be like a hold and release kind of gimmick so maybe its not that bad
i'd say however in CQC it'd probably give more incentive to use automatic weapons like the 4HM since it'd probably be slower to get a highly effective shot with the 1S than to just shred the person
Depends on how effective a 1S charge would be
tall ermine
I feel like one problem to this is that it's essentially gonna make weapons like...
it's also probably gonna impact some people who rely heavily on oneshot combos, like the people who cycle through 1S, X33, firework, eggatron, and musket cuz their loadouts would effectively become basically dogshit in close quarters, but i cant say much because i dont know how the charge would be implemented
you could also come up with the excuse for non-energy weapons that it's just an "ADS" / "aim" time
spiral zinc
Just add spread
tall ermine
another thing it'd also probably slow down peekshooting a lot
so maybe it's not that bad assuming you cant just hold the charge forever
gives aegis a higher chance to push
celest otter
Just add spread
yeah no just shush
celest otter
it's also probably gonna impact some people who rely heavily on oneshot combos, ...
a charge would be so fucking dumb
dude
charge shots
thats so dumb
JUST MAKE EQUIP TIME LONGER 💔
Fixes the spamming problem but still keeps the guns good
tall ermine
i dont like the idea of increasing equip times
tall ermine
i dont like the idea of increasing equip times
You're deliberately taking away control from the player so they cant quickswitch, and not only that, Anchor is very inconsistent (or well to the player) when it comes to telling whether your gun is fully equipped or not
i've had like so many situations where my gun is visibly fully equipped but i didnt wait another 0.3s and then i switch and wonder why my gun didnt shoot
generally just a bad experience
celest otter
or just make it so theres a cooldown between firing weapons after u equip
so you cant spam combo
tall ermine
that also doesnt make sense
celest otter
the guns arent the problem lol its the 1shot spam combo
tall ermine
i've had like so many situations where my gun is visibly fully equipped but i di...
it just falls back to this
celest otter
yeah its the gun system being buggy or sum bs idk
tall ermine
it feels horrible when you expect gun to go boom but it doesnt
harsh mortar
i've had like so many situations where my gun is visibly fully equipped but i di...
Real af
tall ermine
i've literally lost to some raiders because my 1S just didnt shoot
because i swapped guns ever so slightly early in preparation of missing/tanking
spiral zinc
yeah no just shush
Just add spread
harsh mortar
Like most things other than the charge idea would be fine
celest otter
tbh the only issue with 1 shots is combo spam
The easiest way to fix the spam is probably guns being reloadable when theyre not equipped
tall ermine
The easiest way to fix the spam is probably guns being reloadable when theyre no...
you mean when they're equipped
celest otter
no like
when u click r to reload and swap to another gun
the gun still will reload its ammo
when u click r and then unequip
mossy night
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rugged viper
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dapper fractal
yeah its turned off
rugged viper
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dapper fractal
im gonna go get my noose
mossy night
Two embed fails
dapper fractal
im getting mogged
agile cosmos
reload should cancel if you unequip your weapon
This was a thing, then people bitched about it and coded re-added it
rugged viper
This was a thing, then people bitched about it and coded re-added it
he should have not folded to that pressure
rugged viper
then it's the perfect opportunity to add it back
agile cosmos
No there was a point
The issue was that people were entering combat with weapons that they didnt know were unloaded
rugged viper
that's on them forgetting to reload their weapons
agile cosmos
especially if youre juggling 5 weapons it makes it very easy to accidentally cancel a reload
agile cosmos
that's on them forgetting to reload their weapons
No its on bad user experience
rugged viper
people will fill the void if others leave
agile cosmos
the entire point of this thread is to target bad user experience and not cast it away as "skill issue"
rugged viper
not being able to cycle through 5 one shotting weapons to rack up braindead amounts of kills is something that needs to be done
agile cosmos
because you can just as easily cast the entire gun balancing issue away as just git gud
slender root
I mean with current situation it's obvious you can't remove the weapons as that'd basically be scamming players from their robux and you losing trust from others.
Nerfing them doesn't kind of also work BUT it has to be done in some way since they are just too overpowered.
They should be a bit more/slightly better than normal guns with special mechanics what would basically be what you actually pay for preferably so your idea of making them charge based etc. is really good.
Have in mind that people have paid for it and look at how the gameplay is at the moment before making changes, I liked the idea you were talking about on implementing a system where for playtime/quests you'd get the P2W gun for free for a certain amount of time.
That would bring more players into potentially buying it since they'd finally have a chance to try it.
I would go more in implementing diffrent mechanics in each of the P2W guns instead of just them having cool effect and diffrent stastics.
Example of that we have in-game is the crossbow which is representing perfectly what I mean, please consider changing DEW weapons into them having special mechanics.
In my opinion these options would be the best to fix the current situation.
The F2P players would become potential buyers due to mechanics making the guns way more interesting which would also make the game way more popular since they wouldn't be as mad and helpless as it is in-game right now.
I'd strongly consider pushing more into armor/health related things for F2P and P2W which would additionally have their special mechanics as well.
For example a kevlar which stops more damage when enemy is closer but less when it's further or something like candy which would give temporary speedboost or 300 shield which would evaporate overtime.
Make these easy to get and that should balance out the overpowered weapons we have in the game.
Those are my suggestions and I wonder if someone even read this long essay, lol.
agile cosmos
Holy crap
scarlet moss
I mean with current situation it's obvious you can't remove the weapons as that'...
Idk if Chairman is reading this
wintry hollow
then it's the perfect opportunity to add it back
Nah dude that shit was so aids
Really fucked up the flow of combat
agile cosmos
that's on them forgetting to reload their weapons
Also, regarding this, an easy fix would be a UI prompt on the inventory, say an outline on the guns - green for loaded, yellow for partially loaded, red for empty.
So you can see the ammo on a gun and see whether a reload failed from the corner of your eye
wintry hollow
Also, regarding this, an easy fix would be a UI prompt on the inventory, say an ...
Remove the hud for the ammo count and make it so u have to hold r to check the mag 😈😈😈
agile cosmos
Remove the hud completely and make DoD a VR game
thorn finch
Remove the hud completely and make DoD a VR game
:] lego vr interrogations
frail field
I think that you should take all the current one shots off sale, remake them, an...
I feel like this is the best way to do it still…
rocky heath
bro what
that's so shit
do u know how long 5 seconds are dude
I ain't waiting 5 seconds just to fire my 1s...
tidal shale
ever heard of a joke?
rocky heath
ever heard of a joke?
I will not be interacting with tilted.
tidal shale
I will not be interacting with tilted.
Who are you?
peak hazel
I will not be interacting with tilted.
So tuff 🥶🥶
rocky heath
ikr 😝 ✌️
oblique sundial
I will not be interacting with tilted.
So tuff boi
rocky heath
aight bruh ik u ain't talking
oblique sundial
So what
rocky heath
💋
heady torrent
I ain't waiting 5 seconds just to fire my 1s...
you dont understand, i said you can fire 1s, egg, x33 and firework in the span of 5 seconds, it wasnt a suggestion to make it 5. Fairly sure the 1s is a 7 second reload time anyway so i dont know what you're complaining about even if it was a suggestion
rocky heath
you dont understand, i said you can fire 1s, egg, x33 and firework in the **span...
thought u were talking abt the time u need to equip the weapon
patent whale
If you change the equip time needed for one shot weapons to be useable keeping the general mechanic the same for damage. Switching back to them at close range would be made more of a hindrance and this also prevents just switching to another one shot gun. Say if all one shots have the same pullout time as the freedom minigun meaning you would still use the one shots but only at long range which is the intended purpose of them or as a first shot then switch to an automatic or semi automatic such as shotgun giving other weapons viability. This also makes camping and spamming one shot much more tedious and missing shots while doing so would actually mean something.
dapper fractal
I will not be interacting with tilted.
timmy toughknuckles is that u
spiral zinc
Just add spread
wary dagger
bruh
silk ledge
you guys have the dumbest fucking ideas
Keep the chat respectful.
steel shoal
just nerf the weapons however you like or whatever, then put them out of the store but keep them in game.
eventually with time there'll be less people who spent hundreds of dollars on roblox and you'll be able to remake the dod combat experience without hearing so many complaints
there can still be expensive gamepasses and other unique items like the medkit, nightvision, whatever new u add but the game wont be so hostile to new players
silk ledge
just nerf the weapons however you like or whatever, then put them out of the sto...
Hard to implement now. Considering a lot of people bought all DEWs, that would be a waste of money.
steel shoal
people who already bought them would still have them , its just that those who dont wont be able to buy them
rugged viper
Hard to implement now. Considering a lot of people bought all DEWs, that would b...
you do realize they acknowledged that the gamepasses are subject to change
silk ledge
people who already bought them would still have them , its just that those who d...
unbalanced considering others wont be able to get the guns they have
silk ledge
you do realize they acknowledged that the gamepasses are subject to change
elaborate
rugged viper
if they were nerfed to the ground, they can't even complain
steel shoal
unbalanced considering others wont be able to get the guns they have
people who dont have jobs or dont have well off families cant afford them anyway
i dont think f2p players being unbalanced towards p2w players has been a concern for this game either way
with time they could be added back with ores or other mecanism like crafting someone said
spiral zinc
Just add spread
celest otter
just nerf the weapons however you like or whatever, then put them out of the sto...
Dumb idea
silk ledge
people who dont have jobs or dont have well off families cant afford them anyway
Realistically - yes; however a lot of people possess dews
even if they're expensive
silk ledge
if they were nerfed to the ground, they can't even complain
oh ok
sharp lynx
just refund us
spiral zinc
Just add spread
wheat salmon
Reduce the number of bullets to 5 for the one-shot weapons; however, to counteract this, include charging stations for the DEWs. For the others, you can also do the same and reduce the number of magazines.
Another solution you can implement is to make the damage of the gun depend on the player's HP, so it'll be kinda fair.
tall ermine
Reduce the number of bullets to 5 for the one-shot weapons; however, to countera...
this is dogwater
heady torrent
Reduce the number of bullets to 5 for the one-shot weapons; however, to countera...
wdym reduce number of bullets
1s is 1 anyway
x33 is like 3
egg is 1
versed zephyr
Reduce the number of bullets to 5 for the one-shot weapons; however, to countera...
ts is wild
tall ermine
wdym reduce number of bullets
from what i can tell he wants oneshot guns to have a higher capacity but you have to "recharge" them at specific stations
lavish wadi
some ideas
- force you into first person when wielding a dew or fancy gun (would be pretty harsh tho for some situations)
- limited ammo for dew weapons (self explanatory, would be a considerable amount, but would prevent unfair camping and stuff, would also be able to be refilled)
- chances of jamming (would be small)
- when reloading a dew gun (1S or 4HM for example), you slow down - alternatively, you can't switch weapons (so you have to reload all of ur weapons in a safe place)
tall ermine
BLIZZARD
lavish wadi
💀🚬🚬
tall ermine
i wonder why
tall ermine
ye
magic tapir
fair enough
wheat salmon
this is dogwater
On second thought, yeah, it isn't good.
wheat salmon
1s is 1 anyway
I mean, you can use it 5 times before you can go to a charging station to recharge
wheat salmon
It's fair currently, given the cost.
clever spire
eh, if its nerfed they can just decrease cost and give credits for other gamepasses or something
if the nerf is deemed too unfair
sudden sail
bro just nerf all the 1 shot guns
its litro a roblox gamepass
nerf them and add more cool guns
sudden sail
eh, if its nerfed they can just decrease cost and give credits for other gamepas...
and do this
peak hazel
its litro a roblox gamepass
You’re so inconsiderate of the unemployed
How will they ever cope with their precious one shots being nerfed
warm stratus
Js remove them
steel shoal
its litro a roblox gamepass
so real
spiral zinc
Just add spread
inland geode
damage drop-off to sidearms, charging 1-shot weapons, and adjusting equip times could be neat
inland geode
damage drop-off to sidearms, charging 1-shot weapons, and adjusting equip times ...
or maybe even spread, so at long distances, certain weapons become more inaccurate
such as sidearms
spiral zinc
Just add spread
topaz sorrel
we spend hundreds of dollars for gamepasses specifically to one shot
and now we want to take that away
if this were to be in effect
I would be very dissapointed having to spend 50k on something that isnt even worth money anymore
I suggest just discontinuing the seasonal
stuff
and just adding more fair combative stuff
neat sage
The thing is chairman still wants to make money off seasonal stuff but wants to nerf the stuff we paid for
That’s what it seems like to me
Because I doubt this is the turning point where the game gets balanced and he stops releasing good gamepasses
It’s just gonna be way harder to sell anything when all the previous buyers know that in the end all the shit gets nerfed for the enjoyment of the f2p people
steel shoal
It’s just gonna be way harder to sell anything when all the previous buyers know...
get real even with dews slightly nerfed f2p people still wouldnt stand a chance
this game never getting balanced
neat sage
I totally agree
Which is why I dont understand ruining all the weapons of your top spenders
Unless he is done trying to sell stuff
Its not like the people with only 1s who are complaining are gonna be buying the 10k and 20k gamepasses that get released
And the people who DID or atleast some of them wont buy because they know that it can just get nerfed in the future
frail field
The thing is chairman still wants to make money off seasonal stuff but wants to ...
Just do this;
I think that you should take all the current one shots off sale, remake them, and release them as a v2 variant, that has the debuffs listed (keep same price tho). I feel like all the current ones should stay though, as that’s what they paid for, except make their draw time worse for the current ones. Lore reason can be that there is a shortage of the technology that charges the DEWs, so they have to put less into the gun, which causes a longer charge time on trigger pull. As the game grows, people will leave, it will slowly phase out the OP V1 DEWs, and no one would be reasonably angry.
neat sage
inchworm shut up
I saw your post
Its good
I agree
But everyone else is talking about just ruining the main weapons used rn
That cost hundreds of dollars
neat sage
I agree
You could even make the new variants cheaper
Because if everyone had the guns there wouldnt be as much complaining
And people who do still complain should just find a game with combat they like
Its just that people either dont have the money or dont want to spend the money
But like the game
So they complain about the people that spent money having better stuff
steel shoal
that could be a good idea and would balance the game more, but it would prob come at a profit loss
which i dont think the chairman wants
plain aspen
make the reload time longer for however many one shot weapons you have equipped
neat sage
A profit loss is ruining the gamepasses of all your top spenders
Then you miss out of future sales
neat sage
My 5 1 shot weapons
plain aspen
choose wisely 💔
ok so basically
nvm i forgot
good luck chairman 🙏
the charging thing is fine
it makes sense
u could add a gun u can buy at the shop that disables someone elses weapon that you can use once per life
thatd be super peak
🙏
like crossbow but free and gives f2p players a chance
rocky heath
melons
plain aspen
melons
what
flashbangs would be hilarious
imagine flashbanging some pksf and you just see a cuff train
merry peak
like crossbow but free and gives f2p players a chance
10k weapon for free?
thats the only good thing on the crossbow
plain aspen
thats the only good thing on the crossbow
no one uses it 💔
merry peak
I do 😔
merry peak
thank you sir
sharp lynx
could always just replace the 1 shot weapons with different ones
rugged viper
you acknowledged that gamepasses are subject to change
just like how purchasing a gamepass doesn't make you immune to getting banned and losing access to it
plain aspen
just like how purchasing a gamepass doesn't make you immune to getting banned an...
if u make someone buy something
then u delete it
is it scamming
and in this case if chairman heavy nerfs it
or deletes it
is it scamming
😭
magic tapir
Yes we all knew what we were purchasing when we bought it except for the like freedom cannon ig and crossbow
dapper fractal
and sparkler
proud path
only taken 2 years to even acknowledge its an issue 🥀
nerf them all, f2p deserve an equal chance
spray guns were the best guns before anchor 3 and the game was semi balanced, 4hm and other sprays were great and something like an ak could still take down someone with titanium
firework used to just down people not 1 shot same with most guns and gameplay for f2p was fun
if your not going to nerf one shots at least increase their pull out time and reload so people dont rely on them more then spray guns
rugged viper
or just get rid of pocket reloading
proud path
fr
anyway when 1s was the only proper 1 shot dod was thriving and you didn't need to worry about being f2p or not gameplay was fair and fun now if you dont pay your bullied and either pay or quit the game
rugged viper
set all dews and high damage non standard guns to offsale and then implement these changes
proud path
also reset economy so wastelanders actualy have stuff to do rather then just raiding🙏
rocky heath
Ima have to kiss both of you if you don't stop.
proud path
atp it seems like chairguy doesnt know how as its been 3 or 4 years of promising to do it
agile cosmos
neon ledge
just make it harder to use dews
like nerfing gun cycling
because its the worst aspect of the game
u just become a 1 shot turret
camping ruins dod so much
spiral zinc
Just add spread
What if all 1 shot weapons except the 1s just downed you and the only weapon you can use while downed is a pistol that you automatically equip
sudden sail
JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS JUST NERF THE GUNS
gleaming spear
I agree with the guy above me.
steel shoal
i also agree with the guy above him
subtle field
Just add spread
strafing & jumping midair should affect worse accuracy on snipers especially dew-1s because its designated for long range encounter and not for close quarter in current state
dapper fractal
https://tenor.com/view/political-halo-halo5-red-halo-red-gif-18630542
you did NOT just post a red vs blue
yeah youre shitting on my blue
🖕
wintry hollow
RED BETTER
spiral zinc
I like pink jolly rancher
rocky heath
ew
topaz sorrel
Bad idea to drain the guns worth 10s of thousands of robux
even if its a simple debuff
im not goijg to spend 20k robux for a gun that cant be acurate for any more than 20 studs
neat sage
I like being able to just pull out a 1s and do 500 damage
No need to exaggerate
spiral zinc
Just add spread
warm stratus
Set a limit to how much “snipers” or “one taps” you can have in your inventory so you don’t have to deal with the cycle spam
Making the game more focused on automatics etc
spiral zinc
@patent whale Agrees with me that we should Just add spread
rugged viper
im not goijg to spend 20k robux for a gun that cant be acurate for any more than...
that's just being realistic
hot ferry
People can’t live without their oneshot weapons now
We’ve been a P2W game for so long that even the thought of a single nerf to a weapon causes genuine anger and hate
This is sickening
I can’t fathom how yall can’t just look at the state of the combat in this game and think it’s FUN with all the oneshot items and think “this is perfectly balanced, we should keep this”
dapper fractal
sybau trialing
hot ferry
sybau trialing
I’m not a fucking trialing
Lobotomite
Put down your DEW weapons and use smth else, then get back to me :]
mossy night
I’m not a fucking trialing
hot ferry
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568636503614291980/894303655514243092/g...
Damn
dapper fractal
Put down your DEW weapons and use smth else, then get back to me :]
i could probably beat yo ass with a p226 🥀
hot ferry
Gang that isn’t the point
Look at the state of the combat
Ok like
I actually have a question
dapper fractal
you can win without buying anything btw
hot ferry
Genuine question
How is raiding fun?
Like I am curious
Bc
It looks mega repetitive
hot ferry
I am aware of that
mossy night
hot ferry
Can you answer my question please
mossy night
How is raiding fun?
because you kill aegis and then they kill you hahaha 6-7
hot ferry
gang I just asked you a question
dapper fractal
because you kill aegis and then they kill you hahaha 6-7
6 7
hot ferry
Alr then bye lol thanks for your help :]
dapper fractal
wouldnt be surprised if this guy was a riakhel alt
hot ferry
so we are assuming every wastelander is a raider
Who isn’t atp
Be fr
I’m too tired for this I’m getting way too worked up over this, I’m gonna go take a break
Kk bye
clever spire
guys these things need nerfs trust
They can just give credits for other gamepasses if it's too bad
clever spire
As a F2P who has a hard time getting titanium before every fight, these need to be nerfed
I like the charging up ideas and stuff more
hot ferry
Ok I’m chill now
hot ferry
heavy kev exists
You still need to pay
hot ferry
No wait yall can get it in wasteland I think
clever spire
Yea
hot ferry
I forgor
dapper fractal
You still need to pay
smartest std
clever spire
But it's usually too late to get it cus u already wear something else before going out
Personally I wear the ragged wasteland kevlar
hot ferry
smartest std
I will not fall for this ragebait a 2nd time, good attempt though
dapper fractal
But it's usually too late to get it cus u already wear something else before goi...
just stack it with hev kev
nobody other than a shitty new player gon kill u
lol
hot ferry
You usually get something else before getting those ingots
I don’t see the purpose of a gamepass for it anyway if you can just get it relatively easy
dapper fractal
It can't I think
smartest f2p
clever spire
I don’t see the purpose of a gamepass for it anyway if you can just get it relat...
yea true
clever spire
smartest f2p
explain then ☠️
Getting kevlar before heavy kevlar doesn't let u buy heavy kevlar
hot ferry
explain then ☠️
Getting kevlar before heavy kevlar doesn't let u buy heavy kevl...
Don’t interact, it’ll make it worse
clever spire
Don’t interact, it’ll make it worse
Fr 😂
clever spire
ok so yesterday
each time I fight people with 1S I get one tapped no matter where I'm hit
Cus it's hard to get better armor easily for free without wasting time
this is what pmo
hot ferry
Yeah
The game essentially forces newer players to pay for gamepasses or spend an extremely long amount of time trying to improve, which’ll essentially be impossible considering that everyone is able to oneshot and you can’t
clever spire
Yes fr
dapper fractal
explain then ☠️
Getting kevlar before heavy kevlar doesn't let u buy heavy kevl...
buy heavy kev > equip > buy kight
*light
rocky heath
you guys r so... 🫦
clever spire
buy heavy kev > equip > buy kight
ok true but u need to go out with no armor
hot ferry
Yes you can be good at the game but it’s so much more debilitating
dapper fractal
You can’t have thoughts in this community
u can but u have to actually know how the game works
hot ferry
Bc ur fighting what is essentially a brick wall
dapper fractal
ok true but u need to go out with no armor
so??
clever spire
so??
That's riskier
Some dumb tker will insta kill you
If ur not paying attention
Or if they have 3C
dapper fractal
That's riskier
u cant get tked as a wastelander
clever spire
u cant get tked as a wastelander
Yes u can lol?????
dapper fractal
also ur gonna die regardless of armor
hot ferry
u can but u have to actually know how the game works
Sorry I’m not spending my entire life studying this game before sending a single message
Yeah mb cro
dapper fractal
Yes u can lol?????
wastelanders r not on the same team lol
clever spire
wastelanders r not on the same team lol
Wastelanders can still shoot you...
dapper fractal
how about u guys play the game and learn
dapper fractal
instead of complaining
dapper fractal
Which is what usually happens
never happens btw
hot ferry
how about u guys play the game and learn
What do you think I’ve been doing :]
clever spire
how about u guys play the game and learn
I tried, possible but hard
clever spire
never happens btw
LOL okay bud believe what u want
sudden sail
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clever spire
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dapper fractal
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sybau slate
sudden sail
sybau slate
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6slates
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dapper fractal
6+7
hot ferry
Truly a great community, I sure do love day of dusk
And I’m getting too worked up again goddamnit
Release me
Free me
Anyway
Only 1 oneshot
Slower equip time
Nerf weapon cycling
Make camping less viable as a strategy as a whole
That’s all
naive willow
you acknowledged that gamepasses are subject to change
you spend 120 quid on 5ss
Then it gets nerfed to a shit pistol
what is your reaction
clever spire
5ss is probably fine bc of spread ngl
naive willow
it was just a metaphor
clever spire
It's the long range 1 shots that are annoying
naive willow
honestly 1s is fine
rugged viper
what is your reaction
nothing
clever spire
honestly 1s is fine
LOL no it is not
naive willow
It’s like the egg gun or x77
rugged viper
because I know this is to curbstomp the issue that's plaguing the game
clever spire
It’s like the egg gun or x77
it does more damage + scope
rugged viper
I’d doubt it
bet
naive willow
it does more damage + scope
damage is not significant for aegis
You can one shot 90% of aegis with it
clever spire
damage is not significant for aegis
You can one shot 90% of wastelanders with it
As F2P I always die from such guns
rugged viper
the 1s does not serve its intended purpose as we speak
it's supposed to be a sniper rifle
not a shotgun firing slugs
clever spire
I was JUST about to say that
rugged viper
it's used like a shotgun that fires slugs
naive willow
You can one shot 90% of wastelanders with it
90% of wastelanders aren’t raiding
clever spire
90% of wastelanders aren’t raiding
I am
naive willow
Raiders most usually have at least heavevlar
heavy lev is pretty good
You can also get 3c
Pretty decent combo
With l11
clever spire
ok
rugged viper
1s, hk, lk, 3c
clever spire
I guess I'll start getting heavy instead of normal
clever spire
I guess I'll start getting heavy instead of normal
Which will require me to go outside with no armor
rugged viper
300 armor from the two kevlars is pretty good
clever spire
you can get both
Yea but I need heavy first I think
clever spire
I think it’s the other way around
it's not I've tried
naive willow
Ok
rugged viper
tho it would be more sensible if we had plate carriers and armor plates instead
clever spire
Going out and getting ingots just for heavy is annoying
clever spire
titanium is also annoying to get unless there's a battery near
naive willow
A ton
rugged viper
the current look of the lk is basically a rig
naive willow
titanium is also annoying to get unless there's a battery near
Yeah that too
It’s pretty easy to get icl
clever spire
Nobody wants to waste time getting armor just to die to a one tap
rugged viper
hk looks like it's a flak vest
naive willow
There’s a battery crate that is never looted
clever spire
There’s a battery crate that is never looted
Between the cargo crates??
clever spire
Nah it's often looted
naive willow
Nope
clever spire
in robo??
clever spire
no bro
naive willow
gatekeeping
clever spire
I know there's also one in a nearby building
I just don't remember which one
Close to the locations I mentioned
I think it's the one to the left of AED entrance
rugged viper
ard on their way to gatekeep non game altering mechanics from the public
rugged viper
sc room and its contents are public, yet they can alter the game significantly
clever spire
sc room and its contents are public, yet they can alter the game significantly
why are you not SC anymore
clever spire
Makes sense Lolll
rugged viper
I don't even care going back to sc at this point
I got better things to do
such as getting a job
dapper fractal
Don’t they give a Don
just go to poliax and mine the diamonds there
turn em jnto ingots and go to bunker
lol
naive willow
ard on their way to gatekeep non game altering mechanics from the public
I can tell if I want
There’s literally no classification and it’s probably on wiki
clever spire
turn em jnto ingots and go to bunker
crates are much better business
Totally underrated
mining is for time wasting enthusiasts
dapper fractal
There’s literally no classification and it’s probably on wiki
we cant put it on the wiki
anything of ard labs or experiments
i wanted to do smth on ingame shadow realm but its not allowed
clever spire
anything of ard labs or experiments
He meant an ard crate location in the wasteland
dapper fractal
He meant an ard crate location in the wasteland
???
clever spire
???
yea that's what we were talking about I think
ARD crate to get battery
For robo titanium armor
clever spire
and im psure hes talking about the one in tundra
There's also one in a nearby building but I always forget where
valid light
I can’t fathom how yall can’t just look at the state of the combat in this game ...
It is fun
dapper fractal
silence floppy
valid light
yes sir
naive willow
we cant put it on the wiki
Dawg we are talking about battery crates
clever spire
I think this thread has gotten pretty off topic ngl lol
anyway AHDP uniform needs to be put on sale
I'm gonna go shower now
neat sage
As a f2p I think the combat system isnt that bad
rich moth
I feel like there should be like a short cooldown after swapping, so u use egg and then swap to firework and gotta wait like 2-3 seconds before u can shoot
this might encourage automatics in close range at least
topaz sorrel
We’ve been a P2W game for so long that even the thought of a single nerf to a we...
no bc the weapons cost SO MUCH
its not anger or hate
dapper fractal
I feel like there should be like a short cooldown after swapping, so u use egg a...
or just limiting the amount of guns u can keep in ur toolbar
topaz sorrel
its reasonable to not want the value of something that costs hundreds of real life dollars to go down so much
rich moth
don’t wanna punish people who like using multiple autos
dapper fractal
don’t wanna punish people who like using multiple autos
or chair could add a tag for every weapon that does over like 80 dmg and limit weapons with that tag to 1 slot in the toolbar
agile cosmos
Then it gets nerfed to a shit pistol
cope and seethe lol
(I own one)
Game balancing is a priority
Not resist every change because people paid money for something else
imagine if the government in the 1900s decided to supress the use of cars because "people have huge investments in horses and they'd feel ripped off"
neat sage
imagine if the government in the 1900s decided to supress the use of cars becaus...
Roblox game with guns that costs hundreds of dollars -> ruining the guns -> being defended by a comparison to a real life government 🥀
And the comparison doesnt even make sense
What is the car equivalent that we are getting by nerfing p2w guns?
spiral zinc
Just add spread
neat sage
To single shot weapons?
spiral zinc
To all weapons
spiral zinc
🤑
neat sage
Having spread for snipers is ridiculous
Just a tool for people who cant aim to have a chance against people who can
spiral zinc
😈
rich moth
Hell nah im not gonna shoot a raider and the bullet flies towards the uc and then pksf chase me
agile cosmos
Roblox game with guns that costs hundreds of dollars -> ruining the guns -> bein...
The analogy is valid
The point being that if every gun were to be kept as it is and balanced the same, nothing would be fixed and nothing would improve
You cant justify keeping the game worse because some people will lose an investment < - this is the analogy
"Ruining the guns" is a bit far - we're trying to improve the combat
OH hes spent 100k robux
i see why hes mad
neat sage
Nerfing all my guns 😡
agile cosmos
yeah thats quite sad innit
neat sage
Not really
Its just how the game is now
So the sudden rush to change something that has been with the game most of its life doesnt make sense to me
Like NOW we care?
agile cosmos
So the sudden rush to change something that has been with the game most of its l...
it doesnt make sense because youre in the 1% of people that have spent the same amount on a game as a used car
its always been a problem
if dylans finally coming around to fixing it thats good
agile cosmos
well better late than never
neat sage
Not really
neat sage
The problem is good guns
agile cosmos
not "I assumed this would never be fixed and spent a bunch of money on it"
agile cosmos
Im sure dylan wont nuke the value of the high value guns anyway
neat sage
Just sounds like p2w
neat sage
The combat is already cooked and this wont fix it
I could use the pip smg and mow down aegis the same as I do with 1 shots
1 shots are just more enjoyable
agile cosmos
I wonder why you need armour, your skull is so thick its basically bulletproof at this point
neat sage
Good counter point
Really showed the flaws in my statement with an insult to me personally
You ever tried reddit?
rugged viper
The analogy is valid
The point being that if every gun were to be kept as it is...
just make pocket reload a thing of the past
agile cosmos
it was removed
then it was added back because of bad UX design
could have been fixed with the reload indicators
rugged viper
imagine the average dod player entering the military
"wait why did my rifle not reload in my pocket"
neat sage
imagine the average dod player entering the military
Imagine you, complaining every day about how shit the game is and how you wanna leave, actually leaving instead of complaining on every thread
agile cosmos
"wait why did my rifle not reload in my pocket"
I mean, the thing with real guns vs dod guns is real guns have tactile reloading
dapper fractal
comparing a game to real life is crazy
neat sage
comparing a game to real life is crazy
Thats what Im saying bro
rugged viper
Imagine you, complaining every day about how shit the game is and how you wanna ...
you seemingly keep pointing out how I complain about the shit balancing
neat sage
These guys have lost the plot
rugged viper
do us a favor and leave if you got some problem
agile cosmos
This guy is literally 100k robux deep in this game he will NOT listen to reason
neat sage
do us a favor and leave if you got some problem
Bro 90% of all your recent messages are the same complaints in threads
You live in these
rugged viper
This guy is literally 100k robux deep in this game he will NOT listen to reason
then he will have to endure
agile cosmos
Its happening either way. He has a vested interest in stopping it because it gives him a marked advantage which he has (admittedly) paid for heavily
dapper fractal
Bro 90% of all your recent messages are the same complaints in threads
hes a femboy hater who probably has 3k hours on hoi4
nobody Likes Steve.
agile cosmos
"wait why did my rifle not reload in my pocket"
The issue with pocket reloading is that there were no indicators of a successful reload, and due to server lag you had many instances of people swapping to guns that they pressed R on just for the gun to stop shooting after 2 rounds
dapper fractal
https://tenor.com/view/discord-drama-discorddrama-gif-22395692
nice try
tidal shale
🍿 wtv
agile cosmos
so reloading was extended
agile cosmos
instead of making the actual reload mechanic have better feedback to indicate a successful reload
tidal shale
🍗
rugged viper
instead of making the actual reload mechanic have better feedback to indicate a ...
you need a custom inventory system to indicate a successful reload
agile cosmos
you need a custom inventory system to indicate a successful reload
No you can just change the item icons - depending on state
dapper fractal
instead of making the actual reload mechanic have better feedback to indicate a ...
r once> slow reload but 0 chance of fail
r twice> fast reload with smaller mag size or lower chance of sucessfully reloading
gg
agile cosmos
r once> slow reload but 0 chance of fail
r twice> fast reload with smaller mag s...
the fail chance was never tied to the reload it was tied to lag
simply indicating that the reload was successful would be enough
like the reload used to register on client but not on the server
rugged viper
No you can just change the item icons - depending on state
or... make that the gun has its ammunition available to be seen by the server, so that the server loads the firearm and not the client, and make that the client watches the change in ammunition amount and update the ammo hud accordingly
agile cosmos
Wont work properly for rapid fire
Gunscripts have to effectively have some "predictions" baked in where they assume certain things have happened or will happen
i mean i could see how you could make it work
but the reload indicators would be easier
and then get rid of pocket reloads
I could use the pip smg and mow down aegis the same as I do with 1 shots
Really showed the flaws in my statement with an insult to me personally
No because that wasnt a statement it was completely nonsensical
No because 1shots function with the fundamental advantage of removing damage dealers off field. The PIP wouldn't do the same, and you would take damage from your attackers and eventually lose the fight much earlier.
rugged viper
both work, but mine is reinforcing the server authoritative philosophy in programming
agile cosmos
Really showed the flaws in my statement with an insult to me personally
.^
Im pretty sure the bug with reloading has been fixed so disabling pocket reloading would simply work regardless
agile cosmos
Bro came back to it later lol
I was talking with people I could have actual conversations with
rugged viper
Bro came back to it later lol
do us a favor and leave this conversation, would you
agile cosmos
He was pinged
Regardless, for someone complaining about not focusing on the flaws in my statement, he seems to be doing the same thing now
Anyway
rugged viper
let's continue the brainstorming
frail field
This guy is literally 100k robux deep in this game he will NOT listen to reason
Bro I’m like, 5k robux deep and I don’t want my shit nerfed to hell
agile cosmos
Bro I’m like, 5k robux deep and I don’t want my shit nerfed to hell
Its not going to be anyway
read the initial post
neat sage
They dont care about anyones money
They want balance and those who bought good guns get fucked
frail field
If they did they would do this #1418333158314741914 message
neat sage
inch you're too smart for this thread
agile cosmos
If they did they would do this https://discord.com/channels/412291659347263498/1...
That would simply divide the community into a group of better and worse players, and remove any way of newer players from being competitive
neat sage
That would simply divide the community into a group of better and worse players,...
That division doesnt happen based on the weapons
No matter how balanced the game is you're gonna lose to a better player
Unless your idea of balance is getting rid of skill
And adding stuff like spread
slender root
That division doesnt happen based on the weapons
hello little trialing 🥺
slender root
wow
slender root
Not anymore!
what is your timezone
neat sage
EST
agile cosmos
Having a oneshot weapon function as oneshot isn't really the problem, a lot of games have them
The issue stems from having multiple oneshot weapons being able to be fired off in quick succession in close proximity.
Take hangar camping for example, it is effectively useless
If someone has 2-3 oneshot weapons or twoshot weapons, they can effectively take out 4-5 people per 10 seconds, which means that unless you are able to push hangar with a large group, 1-2 raiders can hold down hangar indefinitely
Removing pocket reloading OR having a chargeup would do effectively the same thing (making you hold the weapon without firing it) - with the difference being that charging forces you to fire immediately after
neat sage
I have no problem killing hangar campers
agile cosmos
But both reduce effective KPS
which is the idea
I dont care if you oneshot me One time
but if you are able to oneshot an entire group and reload fully before the next group can make it
rugged viper
this is why sc can deploy hangar lockdowns to combat loser activities
neat sage
this is why sc can deploy hangar lockdowns to combat loser activities
Exactly
agile cosmos
that basically means you are unbeatable (getting hit if you peek right is basically impossible)
neat sage
There are literally built in counters
Not only are hangar campers killable by just shooting when they peek
But you can lock the doors with SC tablet
rugged viper
But you can lock the doors with SC tablet
nah, not the tablet
the site control room
agile cosmos
This is not a proper counter anyway - it doesnt target the core issue of the camping having no counter
and the fact that it heavily degrades gameplay for people who cant do anything about it
rugged viper
cursor follow would get rid of this issue too
agile cosmos
Yes it would make peeking harder
neat sage
How is locking the hangar campers inside to coordinate a push not a counter to hangar camping
agile cosmos
How is locking the hangar campers inside to coordinate a push not a counter to h...
it is not a proper counter
neat sage
What do you think a counter is
rugged viper
How is locking the hangar campers inside to coordinate a push not a counter to h...
it is a desperate measure
it has limitations
in normal cases, the hangar lockdown is not the answer
agile cosmos
it isnt a proper counter, not every door can be remotely locked down and the core issue of being able to rapid fire oneshots AND quickly reload them is still present
This is only a counter specific to hangar camping that requires SC to be on and engage the lockdown
rugged viper
but when shit hits the fan, sc can deploy hangar lockdown to alleviate that pressure
rugged viper
This is only a counter specific to hangar camping that requires SC to be on and ...
as far as I'm concerned, the game doesn't have sc online a lot of the times
and a lot of scs are not that experienced
agile cosmos
The core issue is that oneshot weapons in their current state can be rapid fired and that causes effectively "unwinnable" states because of the way peeking mechanics work
Having a hand reload mechanic or chargeup is an effective counter
rugged viper
cursor follow would make you show your body
because your character is forced to look at the cursor
agile cosmos
Or yes, nerfing peeking with cursor follow
agile cosmos
Not to mention that said unwinnable states are incredibly annoying for almost everyone else because you die without ever having a clear shot at the target even though they clearly can see that the raider is able to shoot them with minimal effort
naive willow
If they did they would do this https://discord.com/channels/412291659347263498/1...
i agree
though activ e people already have the good guns
naive willow
Having a oneshot weapon function as oneshot isn't really the problem, a lot of g...
aegis is just stupid
if they would keep the door closed raiders wouldnt do it anymore
frail field
though activ e people already have the good guns
Yeah but they will leave eventually lol
naive willow
then if they really wanna fight they can wait regroup
aegis dies to hangar camping because theyre idiots
because getting killed in spawn hallway is SK
so theres only like 3 seconds where ur actually killable then u go behind walls
spiral zinc
Just add spread
frail root
Recoil problem solved
proud path
reset scraps. gamepasses allow accces to buy chosen guns with scraps and are 1 life
🙏
restive void
As a f2p I think the combat system isnt that bad
Pov demi god
heady torrent
reset scraps. gamepasses allow accces to buy chosen guns with scraps and are 1 l...
poor aegis
restive void
i could buy like 200
Holy
heady torrent
i could buy like 200
dont think thats possible
restive void
dont think thats possible
Only 20k tickets
heady torrent
Only 20k tickets
yea i dont think 20k tickets is possible
restive void
I have 7500 smth tickets
heady torrent
i have 8432
heady torrent
yea but ive been on aegis ever since tickets
restive void
ok ig im not THAT rich 😠
How rich
valid light
why dont we just keep it the same 🤷♂️
restive void
why dont we just keep it the same 🤷♂️
Cause combat atm is cancer
inland geode
I think that you should take all the current one shots off sale, remake them, an...
idk how that would fix the problem, as nothing is changing except for newer players, which just get the actually balanced items
the unbalanced items just stick around, which means pop-shotting persists, and that the actual problem also persists
additionally it would take an unnecessarily long time for the problem to be solved if we were to just wait for people with op weapons to leave
I mean, there are people who have been here for over 4 years
and will probably stay here for a couple more
frail field
idk how that would fix the problem, as nothing is changing except for newer play...
It’s a long term solution
It’s the best way to minimize mad people
(Im not pay to win, this doesn’t benefit me at all, I just think it’s the best way to do it)
spiral zinc
Just add spread
frail field
Just add spread
No
Spread for a precision weapon is stupid 💀
That’d literally make the game rng based
spiral zinc
Lol
spiral zinc
Just add spread
This is basically my identity now I can't not say it anymore 😔
People know me as the "Just add spread" guy
🥴
inland geode
It’s a long term solution
it'd just take too long for there to be a meaningful impact, imo
frail field
it'd just take too long for there to be a meaningful impact, imo
Ok then we do all of what I said in that message, along with Buffing automatics, and adding a slight amount of draw time to all one shots
Heavily altering the guns themselves is a really lazy and bad way to go about it
inland geode
i mean, balancing takes change
spiral zinc
Take down specific weapons for a while make it rare for people to have then reintroduce the weapons 😌
Or just add spread
frail field
Or just add spread
clever spire
just add charge up
or give them more unique features + a drawback that balances it for combat
spiral zinc
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820044096130514946/1134132421428785212/...
Nice embed fail
spiral zinc
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timid smelt
Firework gun needs a heavy nerf, I get it's a limited but come ON man 😭
tender jackal
thorn finch
Divisional guns (except AIAs) are generally the path to go to for better equipment
dapper fractal
Divisional guns (except AIAs) are generally the path to go to for better equipme...
isnt the aia smg/rifle somehow worse than the ard water gun
thorn finch
isnt the aia smg/rifle somehow worse than the ard water gun
Eh its better but the AIAs loadout is worse then divless, AIAs pistol sucks ass unlike ARDs revolver. Literally does less damage then the p226
So we don't have any good primary guns to utilise unlike every other division.
dapper fractal
Eh its better but the AIAs loadout is worse then divless, AIAs pistol sucks ass ...
dylan probably went down the like
supressor = worse dmg
thorn finch
Thats his exact words
but its loud and has a flash
unlike the eggatron
So its not even suppressed
dapper fractal
well i understand the loud part cause you still need ear plugs to shoot a suppressed gun irl
they also still have a flash
its heavily reduced but still present
thorn finch
even the gun description talks about how it uses the most modern aegis technology for its supression
aka real sci fi shit
considering dews are also a aegis creation except about 60 years ago
dapper fractal
just ask dylan to revamp the aia guns into newer models of internslly suppressed guns like a honey badger
that shoot something like 300 blackout subsonic
nd say that makes it do more damage and be quieter
thorn finch